#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-09-06

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[3:57] <Ub3r> Anyone know of a solderless breadboard HAT the size of the A+ ??
[3:57] <Ub3r> Gadgetoid ^
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[7:06] <digitaldias> hi all
[7:07] <digitaldias> Does anyone have a dotstar RGB LED strip? I'm in need of a quick tip on how to program them :)
[7:07] <SyncYourDogmas> What's the interface used?
[7:08] <digitaldias> It's SPI. Connection isn't the issue tho, it's what bytes get sent. They claim you can address individual LED's on it, but I don't see how
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[7:09] <SyncYourDogmas> Do they have an api?
[7:10] <digitaldias> No. But its easy to get started, each LED takes 4 bytes. What I'm doing now is just sending 4 x LEDCOUNT bytes to the strip, and that works, but animations are slow since I've got 240 LEDs
[7:12] <digitaldias> The thing that confuses me is that in order to copy an entire byte[] to the strip, the first 4 bytes have to be set to 0xff - and I'm thinking (hoping really) that I can address LED's individually by sending some magic to those first 4 bytes
[7:12] <digitaldias> But documentation is scarse. My bing muscle is torn :)
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[7:14] <SyncYourDogmas> so the problem is sending 0xff every time is too slow?
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[7:14] <digitaldias> well, no. What I've done so far is to create a byte array the size of the LED strip x 4 bytes (r g b + silly intensity), which is an array of around 944 bytes
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[7:15] <digitaldias> thing is I'm copying over 944 bytes for each animation frame. Feels like a waste, when I want to animate 10 LED's moving along the strip
[7:15] <digitaldias> it slows down really fast
[7:16] <SyncYourDogmas> Send only the difference
[7:16] <digitaldias> all I have is a write(byte[]) - I can't offset
[7:17] <digitaldias> this is a simple SPI channel
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[7:18] <SyncYourDogmas> and the byte array must be the same size?
[7:19] <digitaldias> Well, that's why I'm seeking help. I believe that there must be something about those first 4 bytes that can help me adress only the bytes that I want to alter, but I can't find any documentation on it anywhere
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[7:20] <MoikeWerk> greetings
[7:20] <MoikeWerk> anybody awake?
[7:20] <digitaldias> Hey Moike
[7:20] <MoikeWerk> I'm having a problem with pikeyd that has me stumped after hours of googling and research
[7:21] <MoikeWerk> and was wondering if anybody could help
[7:22] <digitaldias> What's the problem? I've never used the lib, but looking at the source on github now
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[7:22] <MoikeWerk> I'm just trying to get one simple button to work, so when I press the button they keypress echos...
[7:23] <MoikeWerk> pikeyd.conf is set up for pin 21
[7:23] <MoikeWerk> my wiring appears to be right, one side of the button to ground, the other side has 3.3v into a 1kv resistor to GPIO pin 21
[7:24] <digitaldias> Ok, so the PI is using between 4 and 11ms to write the buffer to the LED strip. Might not be my biggest worry to copy the entire buffer
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[7:24] <MoikeWerk> I press the button, nothing happens
[7:24] <SyncYourDogmas> digitaldias: write a script to go through all possible combinations and brute force it :p
[7:24] <digitaldias> Yeah, that's what I'll do, SYD :)
[7:25] <MoikeWerk> button works and the pin works, I have a very simple .py script that just echos 'test' when I press the button
[7:25] <MoikeWerk> but for some reason pikeyd does nothing when I press the button
[7:25] <digitaldias> how often are you checking the button state? Could it be that you're not waiting long enough?
[7:26] <MoikeWerk> I don't think pikeyd does that
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[7:26] <digitaldias> Just thinking out loud - buttons are always checked in a loop somewhere. If you press and hold, does it still not work?
[7:26] <SyncYourDogmas> show code?
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[7:27] <MoikeWerk> there is no code, you literally just set KEY_X 21 in the pikeyd.conf
[7:28] <MoikeWerk> to tell it to output an X every time you push the button connected to GPIO 21
[7:28] <digitaldias> I see
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[7:28] <SyncYourDogmas> output to stdout?
[7:29] <MoikeWerk> my python script that echos 'test' on every button press just sleeps for 0.2
[7:29] <MoikeWerk> SyncYourDogmas:?
[7:29] <digitaldias> 0.2 = 200ms. Go down to 20ms :)
[7:29] <MoikeWerk> it's a test script to verify the hardware works
[7:30] <MoikeWerk> if I could just use a simple python script to emulate a keystroke, I'd be fine
[7:30] <MoikeWerk> but I can't find anything to do that
[7:30] <SyncYourDogmas> I meant that yeah. you could grep /var/log/dmesg
[7:30] <digitaldias> Isn't there a general type of "sendKeys()" method in Python that you can use?
[7:31] <MoikeWerk> I don't know, I'm not a python expert
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[7:31] <MoikeWerk> and googling the hell out of it gets me nothing
[7:31] <digitaldias> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/SendKeys/0.3
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[7:31] <digitaldias> I binged it, found it instantly :D
[7:31] <MoikeWerk> that's awesome, but I have no idea what to do with that
[7:31] <digitaldias> You can use it to send a keystroke, just like you asked for :)
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[7:32] <MoikeWerk> great
[7:32] <SyncYourDogmas> I'm not bad, do you mean simulate user input?
[7:32] <MoikeWerk> no clue how to install it
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[7:32] <MoikeWerk> I'm setting up a mumble client using the pi
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[7:33] <MoikeWerk> and I have to bind a keystroke to push to talk to activate the mic
[7:33] <MoikeWerk> since the unit won't have a keyboard/mouse attached
[7:34] <MoikeWerk> I need to be able to turn a button on a GPIO pin into a keystroke to activate the mic in mumble
[7:34] <MoikeWerk> does that make sense?
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[7:35] <SyncYourDogmas> ah, yeah
[7:35] <MoikeWerk> so lots of research pointed towards using pikeyd, but it simply does not work, or I can't figure out how to get it to work
[7:35] <SyncYourDogmas> There will be a utf8 representation of the keystroke
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[7:36] <SyncYourDogmas> Maybe not utf8 but some bytes anyway
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[7:38] <SyncYourDogmas> You could send that. so mumble is open and waiting for a key to be pressed? hmm, when you open the client you could redirect stdin from terminal to your script
[7:38] <MoikeWerk> the UI in mumble allows you to bind key key or mouse button to push to talk
[7:38] <MoikeWerk> that's my limitation
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[7:40] <MoikeWerk> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=23548&p=219560&hilit=uinput#p219560
[7:40] <MoikeWerk> going to try that
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[7:42] <gorroth> so, i got my avr working nicely with the rpi now. it turns out that after avrdude uploads a binary to the avr from the rpi's spi pins, it sets the rpi's reset pin to input, which causes occasional 0v to be thrown to the avr, causing sporadic resets
[7:42] <gorroth> so i just had to add a couple lines to make makefile to set the gpio reset pin to output high, which fixes all the weird problems i was having
[7:43] <gorroth> i really should write up some tutorial on this and put it out there
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[7:43] <gorroth> the other tutorials i found got me going, but they're outdated
[7:43] <SyncYourDogmas> open it in a terminal with my script < mumble, and have the script print the key. that way looks much better though
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[7:46] <MoikeWerk> SyncYourDogmas: you might as well be speaking latin
[7:49] <MoikeWerk> nope, that script didn't work
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[7:53] <digitaldias> There's no other way about it, Moike, you need to get a great cup off hot chocolate, a book on programming, and dedicate a day or two to understand how this works.
[7:53] <digitaldias> In order to fix a machine, you need to understand how a machine works
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[7:54] <digitaldias> SYD, I brute forced it, never saw my LED change positions :)
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[7:54] <SyncYourDogmas> MoikeWerk: try script < mumble
[7:54] <digitaldias> good news was that it takes the same time to copy 5 bytes as it takes to copy 940 bytes, so basically, I guess I learned my limits :)
[7:55] <SyncYourDogmas> and in script print the key
[7:56] <SyncYourDogmas> digitaldias: that's odd. just crappy firmware?
[7:56] <MoikeWerk> let's level set my experience here
[7:56] <MoikeWerk> I have no idea what try script < mumble means
[7:58] <SyncYourDogmas> in a terminal, doing typing that means the keyboard input for mumble will come from your script. no idea if it works with GUIa though
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[8:01] <digitaldias> a script is a set of commands given in a file, when you try a script, youre executing that file with a bunch of commands in it, for example "press x, then press y"
[8:01] <digitaldias> Just like an actor that performs a script when he's acting
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[8:06] <SyncYourDogmas> I can't run a gui, otherwise I'd try it myself
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[8:08] <digitaldias> Too early here - so if I want to make a 60fps animation, I'll need to be able to write to the SPI every ~16ms right?
[8:09] <digitaldias> (as in 1 000 / 60)
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[8:14] <SyncYourDogmas> Not other way round?
[8:15] <SyncYourDogmas> no your right
[8:15] <SyncYourDogmas> Google agrees
[8:15] <digitaldias> I don't like Google :)
[8:16] <SyncYourDogmas> Microsoft is no better :)
[8:16] <digitaldias> Anyways, I think I'm well within. the longest write operation takes me 11ms which is well within
[8:16] <digitaldias> Microsoft is WAY better than google, at least in terms of privacy
[8:16] <Solarbaby> Ha
[8:17] <digitaldias> Maybe not that much better in terms of pricing and monopolizing, but hey, can't be best at all :)
[8:17] <SyncYourDogmas> They're catching up
[8:18] <SyncYourDogmas> 11ms sounds fantastically slow
[8:18] <Solarbaby> I'm amazed at how well they are keeping windows 10 users private from prying eyes.
[8:18] <Solarbaby> Windows Rules!
[8:18] <digitaldias> yeah, for 940 bytes, it should be much faster
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[8:18] <digitaldias> mind you that was a spike, average is 5.5ms
[8:18] <SyncYourDogmas> I can almost reach my isp in that time
[8:19] <digitaldias> still too much, it's over 300 000 ticks
[8:21] <digitaldias> I'm down to an average of 150 000 CPU ticks now on the write method for SPI. Gonna try to speed up the clock and see how it goes :)
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[8:24] <digitaldias> 2ms (~50 000 ticks) at 125 Mhz :)
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[8:27] <digitaldias> ok, so 2 ms average is far better than the 5.5 I had to start with and the spike of 11ms. Looks like the very first copy operation takes 6ms but I can live with that - just make it part of the splash screen/startup turning all LED's off
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[8:28] <digitaldias> Still too many wasted CPU cycles tho, but I guess that's how fast I can get with a managed language.
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[8:38] <MoikeWerk> well, still no luck
[8:41] <SyncYourDogmas> digitaldias: what's your code?
[8:42] <digitaldias> how do you mean?
[8:44] <SyncYourDogmas> I mean can I see your python script
[8:44] <digitaldias> SYD: Are you asking about language, or for an example of what I'm writing?
[8:44] <digitaldias> ah, sure
[8:44] <SyncYourDogmas> Cheers
[8:44] <digitaldias> It's not python btw, I'm writing in C# :)
[8:45] <digitaldias> public void Show()
[8:45] <digitaldias> {
[8:45] <digitaldias> #if DEBUG
[8:45] <digitaldias> _stopwatch.Restart();
[8:45] <digitaldias> #endif
[8:45] <digitaldias> _dotStar.Write(_buffer);
[8:45] <digitaldias> #if DEBUG
[8:45] <digitaldias> Debug.WriteLine("Elapsed: {0}ms ({1} ticks)", _stopwatch.ElapsedMilliseconds, _stopwatch.ElapsedTicks);
[8:45] <digitaldias> #endif
[8:45] <digitaldias> }
[8:45] <digitaldias> dotstar is an SPI device
[8:45] <[Saint]> ...really?
[8:45] <[Saint]> pastebin, yo.
[8:45] <digitaldias> oh, hah, sorry!
[8:45] <digitaldias> sec
[8:45] <SyncYourDogmas> ah I'm much much more familiar with python, c# will do though
[8:46] <digitaldias> http://pastebin.com/f5AyLUqG
[8:46] <digitaldias> they're all more or less the same
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[8:48] <[Saint]> If wasted cycles are the issue, just do the whole thing in ARM assembly and be done with it.
[8:48] <digitaldias> I was done with assembly in the 80's on my Amiga.
[8:48] <[Saint]> any abstracted or managed language is just adding excess weight at the end of the day.
[8:49] <digitaldias> You fail to see the time to delivery Saint. Businesses can't afford you sitting around for 4 months hacking away on assembly language while others deliver functionality after a day
[8:49] <[Saint]> 4 months?
[8:50] <[Saint]> errr...k.
[8:50] <[Saint]> cool story.
[8:51] <digitaldias> There are really no compelling reasons to stay with Assembly languages today unless you're doing stuff that requires super-precice timing. And really, not alot of stuff do
[8:51] <SyncYourDogmas> digitaldias you could try pinning the process to one cpu
[8:51] <digitaldias> Ah, that's a good one, SYD :)
[8:51] <SyncYourDogmas> and using nice
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[8:52] <digitaldias> C# has no need for nice/canonical classes :) Everything has a very decent garbage collector :)
[8:52] <digitaldias> IE copy constructor will not help me
[8:53] <[Saint]> I'm not certain I agree with that statement unless you're including 'knocking out every possible excess cycle" in with "very precise timing".
[8:53] <[Saint]> but, pedantics I guess.
[8:54] <digitaldias> It all depends on what you're doing. For me, animating my LED strip, why would I ever consider assembly? now, if I'm making a pacemaker, things are different :)
[8:54] <[Saint]> Well, you did mention excess cycles being an issue, so...
[8:54] <[Saint]> silly me.
[8:55] <digitaldias> true, 50 000 cycles to manage 940 bytes does feel alot, but I've gotten it down to 2ms now, and I need < 16ms to be able to animate at 60fps
[8:55] <SyncYourDogmas> I mean the command nice, sets cpu priority, so hopefully less context switches
[8:55] <digitaldias> leaves me with plenty of room to do calculations
[8:56] <digitaldias> aah, SYD, wasn't aware of that, will do a pure process affinity to see if it helps :)
[8:56] <SyncYourDogmas> Why c# out of interest? mono on a pi?
[8:56] <[Saint]> I wondered the same.
[8:57] <SyncYourDogmas> 2ms does sound pretty fast though :)
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[8:57] <digitaldias> Windows 10, my RPI2 is domain joined accessing a few Azure services (SQL and tables). Just easier with the library support
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[8:57] <[Saint]> Ah, we found that one guy using Windows 10.
[8:57] <[Saint]> The search is over.
[8:57] <digitaldias> It's letting all my colleagues animate my desk with light through an internal site
[8:58] <digitaldias> hah, Saint :)
[8:59] <SyncYourDogmas> ah right. I'd probably go with a rest service in python myself
[9:00] <SyncYourDogmas> or actually raw udp for real time
[9:00] <[Saint]> Bah. My hygrometer keeps buggin' out.
[9:01] * [Saint] idly wonders if the sense hat would be worth using/buying.
[9:01] <SyncYourDogmas> hygrometer?
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[9:02] <digitaldias> back
[9:02] <[Saint]> measures humidity.
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[9:02] <digitaldias> I've got one up and running: http://plants.digitaldias.com/Home/Values
[9:03] <[Saint]> I'm automating a mothering box.
[9:03] <digitaldias> Mine's watering itself, lighting itself, and providing itself with air humidity when it falls below 50% relative :)
[9:04] <[Saint]> Ah. Yes. I too am growing "ficus".
[9:04] <digitaldias> (itself being my plant, a ficusplant with temperature sensor, hygrometer and soil humidity reader
[9:04] <[Saint]> Mhm. Yep. <nods>
[9:05] <digitaldias> It's also using Azure btw - I send the average of 302 readings (1 per second) every 5 minutes to azure, then that triggers a cloud service that also gets the outside data from a local api
[9:06] <digitaldias> based on my gps location
[9:06] <SyncYourDogmas> Nice website
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[9:06] <digitaldias> Thanks :)
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[9:07] <[Saint]> I'm considering adding a camera to the mix, but all I've tried out so far _reaaaaaaally_ hate metal halide lighting.
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[9:07] <[Saint]> like, a lot.
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[9:07] <SyncYourDogmas> Saint in your case a camera probably isn't a good idea
[9:08] <digitaldias> Me too - but I'm thinking: get a "regular" webcam that can store images somwhere locally, then just upload those using a connected drive to the rpi :)
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[9:09] <digitaldias> as long as the webcam has a REST api, you can typically just snag images from it from the pi using http
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[9:10] <SyncYourDogmas> or attach regular webcam to pi?
[9:11] <[Saint]> any type of truly digital capture I've tried thus far has been really badly affected by several thousand watts of MH lighting.
[9:11] <[Saint]> rendered basically unusable.
[9:12] <[Saint]> big fat orange bars through every image.
[9:12] <digitaldias> Could also work. I have this: http://www.asmag.com/suppliers/productcontent.aspx?co=meritlilin&id=23405 but haven't used it in any of my projects yet
[9:14] <digitaldias> It's too expensive to use solely on my plant hehe
[9:15] <SyncYourDogmas> I wouldn't want your images on the net anyhow. digitaldias have you got the complete code on github or something? to see the SOLID principles in action :p
[9:16] <digitaldias> not yet, only on my computer. Once I have the animation working, I'll put it on github :)
[9:18] <digitaldias> the code I put on pastebin was just a poc while I was playing around with timing. Started to isolate classes now :)
[9:19] <SyncYourDogmas> lol I put stuff on github as I go
[9:20] <digitaldias> I usually start with a local repo, and then push once I have something that works :)
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[9:25] <SyncYourDogmas> You've got plenty that work though
[9:26] <digitaldias> oh you mean the site? Yeah, that one's on visualstudio.com since I used it to try out just that, heh. Every time I commit something, the website redeploys + some nifty JIRA-ish features of visualstudio.com that integrate nicely with office and visual studio. That's why I called the project "Extreme overengineering" heheh
[9:27] <digitaldias> I even split myself into 3 different teams to try out allt he features - the IoT team, the website team, and a "phone developer team" for the phone client
[9:30] <SyncYourDogmas> Man, it's all doable in under 200 lines of python
[9:31] <digitaldias> there's really not much to it. A class to hold the values, then a couple of lines to fill them from sensors, and finally post them to Azure
[9:31] <digitaldias> I also get the time from an ntp server
[9:32] <digitaldias> was thinking of adding encryption to the plant values, but I just dont get why crypto libs are so hard to use :)
[9:32] <SyncYourDogmas> and grabbing weather information, and using a formula to actually water them?
[9:32] <digitaldias> and I do have transport encryption
[9:33] <digitaldias> actually watering them is easy, and is done locally. Once humidity hits a treshold, I just hit a relay that activates a pump
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[9:33] <digitaldias> the pump is on for 5 seconds, and then is off for 1 hour. If humidity is still below threshold, it repeats
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[9:34] <digitaldias> But yeah, I Tell you, getting a moisture reading from the soil humidity sensor that makes sense - THAT is a seriously hard one! I've calibrated and re-calibrated, and now, watering happens at around 67% moisture from the reader. But it's really not reliable
[9:35] <digitaldias> Just taking the moisture sensor out, and putting it back in gives me completely different readings
[9:36] <SyncYourDogmas> lol, maybe humidity is better
[9:36] <SyncYourDogmas> air*
[9:36] <digitaldias> I have both
[9:36] <SyncYourDogmas> Both unreliable?
[9:36] <digitaldias> I measure air humidity indoor, outdoor and also soil humidity
[9:37] <digitaldias> no, the air humidity is much more consistent
[9:38] <digitaldias> It's quite fun to see how the indoor-air humiduty trails after the outdoor humidity, almost constantly between 40% and 50% different
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[9:38] <SyncYourDogmas> If your pi is public, I wonder if I could gain access and kill your plants remotely lol
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[9:39] <digitaldias> You can't. The pi does not take any instructions from the cloud. It only transmits historical data. Watering, turning light on/off and providing humidity is all done locally on the pi
[9:39] <SyncYourDogmas> It must have a public IP though
[9:40] <digitaldias> and even if you wanted to, say, turn the light off/on from the web, you'd still have to hack https in order to access the tables where the data are
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[9:41] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah much easier hacking a pi than the cloud
[9:42] <digitaldias> That is basically the challenge of many IoT projects today - you CAN't make an IoT device a server of any kind, or you'll expose it to hacking.
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[9:43] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah, lots of unsecured webcams etc
[9:43] <digitaldias> My projects are all clients to cloud, using some form of ssl. They have no points of entry for someone nearby.
[9:44] <digitaldias> indeed, SYD :)
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[9:45] <digitaldias> if I ever find an AES encryption library that is easy to use, then I'll even do packet encryption inside the ssl tunnel to make sure anyone trying to hack me gets a hard time :)
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[9:46] <SyncYourDogmas> I would see what other services are running
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[9:51] <[Saint]> digitaldias: does your client not do tab completion or something?
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[9:52] <[Saint]> These nick contractions take more time to type out than completing the nick in entirety.
[9:52] <digitaldias> my IDE? sure does, how so?
[9:52] <[Saint]> Your IRC client.
[9:52] <digitaldias> I'm using hexchat
[9:52] <[Saint]> You keep referring to people with odd contractions of their nicks that won't highlight them.
[9:52] <[Saint]> Making it largely pointless if they're not looking.
[9:53] <[Saint]> whereas $first-letter-of-nick+[Tab] would complete the nick in full in any sane client.
[9:53] <digitaldias> doesen't look like it.. tried typing "saint" + tab, nothing happend
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[9:53] <[Saint]> s+[tab] should do it.
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[9:54] <[Saint]> any sane client should do this in both alphabetical and/or last-spoken-order sequencing.
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[9:54] <digitaldias> nope, crappy IRC client I Guess :)
[9:54] <[Saint]> Odd.
[9:54] <Xark> [ + tab?
[9:54] <digitaldias> [Saint], aah, that worked, Xark
[9:54] <[Saint]> just cycling through Tab should go through all nicks in last-spoken-order.
[9:54] <Xark> :)
[9:55] <digitaldias> which IRC client are you using Saint? (and is it a Windows client) - I just binged "IRC client" and found HexChat - no clue if it's good or not
[9:55] <[Saint]> I use quassel
[9:56] <[Saint]> (corss platform distributed IRC)
[9:56] <[Saint]> *cross, even
[9:56] <digitaldias> downloading now
[9:56] <digitaldias> HAH, stopped by windows defender, it contains malware
[9:56] <[Saint]> Unless you use the monolithic client, which defeats the purpose, the quassel-client alone won't do you any good without a core server.
[9:58] <[Saint]> secondarily I use quassel-irssi (in tandem with irssi and quassel-core) on my headless systems.
[9:59] <digitaldias> ok, I got it running, but it crashed out when I tried to send the identify thing
[9:59] <digitaldias> ran the "Quassel Client"
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[10:00] <digitaldias> no worries tho, I now know I can use [ + tab heh :)
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[10:00] <[Saint]> I know precisely nothing of running quassel on non-sane OSes.
[10:01] <digitaldias> no worries. I can see what you type, you can see what I type - it's all good :)
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[10:03] <digitaldias> That's all the ambition I have for an IRC client :)
[10:03] <[Saint]> The primary reason I use it is due to decentralization, secondarily I use it because of user and identity support for the core
[10:03] <[Saint]> There's 18 users on my core with 22 identities across a few dozen networks and several hundred buffers.
[10:04] <[Saint]> postgres backend is a plus too.
[10:04] <digitaldias> Yup. in terms of IRC I'm more like a blonde. I turn it on, have the simplest needs, find a channel, chat in it while I'm coding and listening to jazz, hit the "X" when I'm done :) never more advanced than that, hehe :)
[10:05] <[Saint]> I maintain more of an "always on" IRC presence.
[10:05] <digitaldias> nod. For that you're probably way more advanced than me on irc :)
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[10:10] <[Saint]> A lot of the channels I'm in most people seem to do this due to timezones or what have you. You get conversations separated by 12~14 hour gaps.
[10:10] <digitaldias> if you want to implement a bitblt method, is there anything other than to just operate with two buffers in the background?
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[10:13] <SyncYourDogmas> Most people use a proxy called a bouncer btw
[10:14] <DoctorD90> more than a proxy, is a secretary :P
[10:15] <DoctorD90> it records message while user is away :P
[10:16] <SyncYourDogmas> caching poxies are still proxies :)
[10:18] <DoctorD90> yea...but main feature is to store messages :D
[10:18] <digitaldias> so, the proxy more or less just hides two buffers in the background then? one being written to, the other one being output to device?
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[10:19] <SyncYourDogmas> That's probably the main reason for the majority of proxies in the world
[10:20] <[Saint]> I bet China disagrees with you.
[10:20] <[Saint]> And large swathes of the Middle East.
[10:20] <SyncYourDogmas> digitaldias: yeah, and allows several devices to share an account
[10:21] <digitaldias> Don't insult the russians now by leaving them out again :D
[10:21] <[Saint]> The main use of a proxy IMO is to make it appear as though your geographic location isn't that which it is.
[10:22] <digitaldias> yup, yup, enough bashing, I was just making sure there's no other secret sauce to making a bitblt() :)
[10:22] <SyncYourDogmas> China etc still have ISPs with interceptor proxies, servers with reverse proxies, etc
[10:24] <SyncYourDogmas> digitaldias: I have some really ugly code in my Irc bot if you want the gory details
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[10:24] <digitaldias> heh, no thanks, appreciate the offer tho :)
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[10:35] <SyncYourDogmas> Anyone care to guess a sensible amount of parallel traceroutes to run on a pi 2?
[10:36] <digitaldias> start with 4 x 32
[10:37] <digitaldias> maybe even higher. tracert has a ton of idel time in it, you can fit alot
[10:37] * [Saint] idly wonders why the Internet got largely hyped up when The Arrow briefly features a raspi in a few episodes but comparatively no one mentioned the non-fleeting instances featuring a pi in Mr. Robot.
[10:37] <[Saint]> The corporate espionage link, perhaps?
[10:38] <[Saint]> Either that, or, virtually no one actually watched Mr. Robot?
[10:38] <[Saint]> (that I would find difficult but not impossible to believe)
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[10:39] <digitaldias> Mr. Robot not released in Europe yet (on netflix)
[10:40] <DoctorD90> mr robot spammed in all channels in which i am. stop. i will see this serie >,> decided.
[10:41] <SyncYourDogmas> One instance is using up 25% of my cpu somehow. I've lowered the threads used too
[10:42] <SyncYourDogmas> I may try 3 instances
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[10:42] <digitaldias> SyncYourDogmas, what?? on tracert??
[10:47] <SyncYourDogmas> digitaldias: yeah, Linux version, udp by default http://termbin.com/uhu2
[10:48] <digitaldias> SyncYourDogmas, that strikes me as odd. UDP shouldn't take that much CPU. Can you initialize the number of UDP connections in parallel before you start to use them?
[10:48] <SyncYourDogmas> udp is connectionless
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[10:50] <digitaldias> SyncYourDogmas, sorta, but you still need to open up a few ports, maybe that's where you're getting noise from?
[10:50] <SyncYourDogmas> It might be getting interupped a lot, I've got another network script running at same time, does seem high though
[10:51] <SyncYourDogmas> client side? All outgoing packets on all ports are allowed in firewa
[10:51] <SyncYourDogmas> ll
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[11:59] <digitaldias> so 125 mhz is the maximum speed of the SPI clock on the rpi2?
[11:59] <digitaldias> (as in 125 x 1024 x 1024)?
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[13:05] <xenkey> what's an SPI clock?
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[13:20] <ShorTie> it's a internal thing that the kernel drivers sets at boot
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[17:24] <Khajiit> hello can someone help me?
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[17:24] <Khajiit> wath a question
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[17:25] <Khajiit> i have 2 old nokias lying around, a nokia e3 and a nokia e6. would there be any way to use the screens from those phones as a screen for my raspi?
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[17:25] <Khajiit> maybe by doing something with the gpio?
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[17:26] <GenteelBen> Khajiit: you remind me of the leopard people from Skyrim.
[17:26] <Khajiit> thats the point
[17:27] <Khajiit> an theyre cat people
[17:27] <GenteelBen> The target of much fan fiction and erotic imagery.
[17:27] <Khajiit> can you respon pls
[17:27] <KB3VGW> the nightly snapshot needs updating to jessie
[17:27] <KB3VGW> Khajiit, doubtfull
[17:28] <KB3VGW> as the cables would not match the pin out
[17:28] <Khajiit> aww really?
[17:28] <KB3VGW> and people will respond when they can dont demand people to respond it will get you kicked from the channel
[17:29] <KB3VGW> yes really
[17:29] <Khajiit> http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/271352643896?rmvSB=true
[17:29] <Khajiit> thats the display
[17:29] <Khajiit> k sorry
[17:29] <KB3VGW> pinouts for the screens are diff
[17:29] <Khajiit> aww :( damn ok im screwed then
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[17:29] <Khajiit> any screen i can reuse for a raspi?
[17:30] <Khajiit> i cant buy those gpio ones from adafruit as i cant import stuff
[17:30] <KB3VGW> not unless you get the pinout and make a connector board
[17:30] <Khajiit> how would i get the pinout?
[17:30] <Khajiit> in the schematics?
[17:30] <KB3VGW> hunt
[17:30] <KB3VGW> and they have to be spi /i2s compatable
[17:30] <Khajiit> http://www.s-manuals.com/manuals/phone/nokia/nokia_e5-00_rm-632_rm-634_service_schematics_v3.pdf
[17:31] <Khajiit> found this
[17:31] <mgottschlag> Khajiit: can you import stuff from china?
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[17:33] <mgottschlag> you also need a programming reference for the display, for the protocol
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[17:40] <Khajiit> im back
[17:40] <Khajiit> dang
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[17:40] <Khajiit> so is there ANY display i can resuse?
[17:40] <Khajiit> i cant import i am in argentine and all imports have from 50% to 100% tax because "muh internal market stimulationzz"
[17:40] <Khajiit> also raspi here is 120$ usd :p
[17:41] <Khajiit> i got a friend to send me one
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[17:41] <Khajiit> and i payed 15$ usd tax ;P
[17:41] <Chillum> I hear it is a lovely place, but damn, those restrictions suck
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[17:43] <Chillum> you can do composite, or hdmi if you don't use the gpio pins
[17:43] <Chillum> composite should work on most analog displays like TVs or security camera monitors
[17:43] <Khajiit> it is not a loveley place :p
[17:44] <Khajiit> well maybe tourists spots are
[17:44] <Chillum> Well perhaps I have only seen the tourist board videos
[17:44] <Chillum> http://www.lonelyplanet.fr/sites/default/files/styles/slideshow_destination_big/public/images_lpi/2013-06-07/chutes_diguacu_argentine.jpg?itok=ci_eF7_7
[17:44] <Chillum> looks reasonably nice to look at
[17:44] <Khajiit> thanks Chillum, but i dont have any hdmi screens and the only composite screen i have is my old bulky tube tv and its horrible quality, plus i want to make it portable
[17:45] <Chillum> ahhh
[17:45] <Chillum> well, that is tricky
[17:45] <Khajiit> its very nice the tourists spots
[17:45] <Chillum> it may be possible to use an old cell phone screen through the gpios
[17:45] <mgottschlag> Khajiit: how much tax are 3$ imports? :)
[17:45] <Khajiit> but living isnt really all that nice unless you live in a private neighborhood or near a beach
[17:45] <Chillum> but it will take some fancy programming
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[17:45] <Khajiit> mgottschlag, im guessing 100%
[17:45] <Khajiit> less money is more tax from experience
[17:46] <Khajiit> even if its sent as a clearly marked gift an appraiser comes in to check the price out on ebay and charge you there
[17:46] <Khajiit> happened with the raspi :
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[17:46] <Chillum> another thing I have done for a portable output is install "festival" a voice synth program
[17:46] <Khajiit> huh
[17:46] <Chillum> then I wear headphones and it talks to me
[17:46] <Chillum> good if you only need an output and no unput
[17:46] <Khajiit> so no display just voice?
[17:46] <Khajiit> ah
[17:46] <Chillum> yes
[17:46] <Khajiit> i do need input :p
[17:47] <Khajiit> its so i can use wolfram in school for studying
[17:47] <Chillum> I see. Then you want pretty graphs and such
[17:47] <Khajiit> well mostly the thing that does step by step how to sole equations
[17:48] <Khajiit> i dont memorize the way its done untill i see examples
[17:48] <Khajiit> solve***
[17:48] <Chillum> I suppose a smartphone is out of the question then
[17:48] <Khajiit> yeah not allowed in school
[17:48] <Khajiit> i would have done that xD
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[17:48] <Khajiit> dang the 3.5in tft adafruit dsplay is like 90$usd here
[17:48] <Chillum> so no smart phones, but a computer on the internet a bit bigger than a smart phone is allowed?
[17:49] <Chillum> school logic hehe
[17:49] <Khajiit> maybe not the internet
[17:49] <Khajiit> oh wait
[17:49] <Khajiit> does wolfram need wifi
[17:49] <mgottschlag> Khajiit: just looked, cheap TFTs are 5$ in china
[17:49] <Khajiit> nice
[17:49] <Khajiit> but
[17:49] <Chillum> There are local wolfram libraries you can run, but I don't think it is full featured like the site
[17:49] <Khajiit> most aliexpress people dont shit to arg
[17:49] <Khajiit> ship*** lol
[17:49] <mgottschlag> hm, okay
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[17:50] <Khajiit> cause its always sent back cause trade restrictions
[17:50] <Khajiit> i have an old GPS with a resistive touch screen
[17:50] <Khajiit> is there a way to connect that?
[17:50] <Chillum> possibly
[17:50] <Chillum> depends on how precise its timing requirements are
[17:50] <Khajiit> im not good with electonics but if i get some schematics could you tell me if it can work?
[17:51] <Khajiit> timing as in? input lag?
[17:51] <Chillum> the Pi can interface with most systems with a bit of work, but lacks the real time timing needed for some things
[17:51] <Khajiit> timing as in input output lag?
[17:51] <Khajiit> if so not really a problem
[17:51] <mgottschlag> the schematics are not all you need, you'd also need a data sheet for the initialization sequence etc
[17:51] <Chillum> timing as in: Do this exactly every x microseconds
[17:51] <Khajiit> ah
[17:51] <Chillum> you need to find out what type of screen it is, find its data sheet
[17:51] <Khajiit> well i would use a tiny screen for programming tbh
[17:51] <Khajiit> ok
[17:51] <Khajiit> brb
[17:52] <Chillum> if it uses a clock pin then you should be fine, if it depends on precise timing then it may be problematic
[17:52] <Chillum> it is possible a library for it may exist, otherwise you have a real project ahead of you getting it working
[17:53] <Chillum> those screens tend to need a special startup sequence, which is only sometimes documented
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[17:53] <Khajiit> huh
[17:53] <Khajiit> ill get model now to google it
[17:53] <Chillum> good luck
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[18:00] <Khajiit> back but havent googled it yet had to go do some errands
[18:00] <Khajiit> oh shit brb more errands
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[18:07] * niston found the downside of working from home
[18:07] <niston> home office looks like a mess in no time!
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[18:08] <niston> empty coke cans and pizza boxes everywhere xD
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[18:14] <exonormal> well clean it up.... sheesh
[18:15] <exonormal> how you been lately?
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[18:15] <exonormal> have you created any new ideas lately?
[18:17] <niston> very busy
[18:18] <DoctorD90> guys, I have seen now a video of a person that log voltage of battery with arduino(or with some shield that he doesnt show). Is possible with rpi too?
[18:18] <niston> DoctorD90: you need an ADC
[18:18] <niston> exonormal: new job is very demanding but fun at the same time
[18:19] <exonormal> cool
[18:19] <exonormal> are you still in same place?
[18:19] <niston> nope
[18:19] <exonormal> in UK now?
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[18:19] <niston> ah
[18:19] <exonormal> lol
[18:19] <niston> no still in switzerland
[18:19] <Khajiit> back
[18:19] <exonormal> cool
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[18:19] <niston> but moved from zurich area to berne area
[18:19] <exonormal> nice
[18:20] <DoctorD90> niston: after i purchase a single adc chip, what i'd have to do?
[18:20] <exonormal> you like it there?
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[18:20] <DoctorD90> video i have seen is....
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[18:21] <niston> you could use this: https://www.abelectronics.co.uk/products/3/Raspberry-Pi-Model-A-and-B/17/ADC-Pi-V2---Raspberry-Pi-Analogue-to-Digital-converter
[18:21] <niston> it'll measure 0...5 VDC
[18:21] <Khajiit> hey id be really greatful if someone can help me find if i can use the gps "tomtom N14644" screen on my raspi, what do i search i am looking for manuals but what can i google
[18:21] <DoctorD90> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOshOXcSkDA <<< niston
[18:21] <DoctorD90> i go to see
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[18:22] <mgottschlag> Khajiit: you'd need to open the device, look for any model identifiers on the screen and then google for the datasheet
[18:23] <Khajiit> found screen http://es.aliexpress.com/item/Original-TomTom-TOM-XL-N14644-Canada-310-GPS-LCD-Screen-Display-With-Touch-Panel-Digitizer-Repair/32373692260.html
[18:23] <DoctorD90> niston: cant i use little adc chip? arent them the same?
[18:23] <niston> LOL flour
[18:23] <niston> flour battery from china!
[18:24] <mgottschlag> http://www.amazon.com/Tomtom-N14644-Digitizer-Version-LMS500HF05/dp/B00GMY5XNM <- apparently there are different types of screens
[18:24] <niston> many cheep much quality!
[18:24] <DoctorD90> flour is the way of success!!
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[18:24] <Khajiit> ah yeah xl and xxl
[18:24] <niston> DoctorD90: https://www.adafruit.com/products/856
[18:25] <Khajiit> mine seems not be the non xl or xxl vers or normal
[18:25] <Khajiit> im sure they have the same connector though
[18:25] <Khajiit> found a service manual
[18:26] <mgottschlag> Khajiit: bad luck
[18:26] <Khajiit> damn nvm
[18:26] <Khajiit> what ngott
[18:26] <mgottschlag> that one wants raw picture data, without any intelligence
[18:26] <Khajiit> huh
[18:27] <Khajiit> so that would mean no input?
[18:27] <Khajiit> :/
[18:27] <mgottschlag> so it's not any SPI or I2C display, but you'd need precise image timing
[18:27] <Khajiit> damn
[18:27] <Khajiit> i think i got another model though let me chack my garage
[18:27] <mgottschlag> http://www.datasheet4u.com/datasheet-pdf/AUO/A050FW01-V0/pdf.php?id=718319 has the datasheet
[18:27] <mgottschlag> ah, no, that's the wrong screen
[18:27] <DoctorD90> niston: i was thinking exactly at something like this. I think my eletric store may has one. Once i connect to it, how may I find out voltage of battery?
[18:28] <DoctorD90> to put plots like shown in video?
[18:28] <Khajiit> hmm
[18:28] <mgottschlag> still, the A050 doesn't look good either
[18:28] <niston> read the voltage :)
[18:28] <Khajiit> the other one i have is n14644
[18:29] <Khajiit> wait
[18:29] <Khajiit> is that the same
[18:29] <Khajiit> huh
[18:29] <Khajiit> but a totally different model
[18:29] <exonormal> DoctorD90: if you can, buy the ADALM1000 board.
[18:29] <Khajiit> tomtom one n14644 mgottschlag
[18:29] <Khajiit> IS THE OTHER MODEL
[18:29] <DoctorD90> exonormal: from where?
[18:29] <Khajiit> sorry caps
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[18:29] <exonormal> element14
[18:30] <niston> DoctorD90: here's something from the forums https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=40697&p=332803
[18:30] <DoctorD90> i go to check....btw, i would createbitnby my self to learn :P it should be an easy learning task
[18:30] <mgottschlag> Khajiit: similar
[18:31] <exonormal> DoctorD90: http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-70594/l/active-learning-module--a-low-cost-hardware-development-platform
[18:31] <mgottschlag> http://www.datasheet4u.com/datasheet/A/0/3/A035QN02_V0_AUO.pdf.html
[18:31] <mgottschlag> bbl
[18:31] <Khajiit> whats bbl?
[18:32] <exonormal> be back later
[18:32] <Khajiit> is that the datasheet for the screen
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[18:32] <Khajiit> oh ok
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[18:33] <Khajiit> so would this be compatible with the raspi http://www.datasheet4u.com/datasheet/A/0/3/A035QN02_V0_AUO.pdf.html ?
[18:33] <Khajiit> it says the pin assaignment
[18:34] <mgottschlag> re
[18:34] <Khajiit> ?
[18:34] <mgottschlag> as soon as there are multiple pins for each color, you've lost
[18:34] <Khajiit> oh
[18:34] <Khajiit> :( crap
[18:34] <Khajiit> then im ded
[18:34] <mgottschlag> or rather as soon as you need to generate precise vsync or hsync timings
[18:34] <Khajiit> yeah
[18:34] <DoctorD90> lol ... exonormal 35€ for just an hobby of 1time is too much for my pocket
[18:34] <Khajiit> oh well :p
[18:34] <exonormal> DoctorD90: sorry
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[18:35] <exonormal> I have one and love it
[18:35] <exonormal> it can handle up to ten volts input
[18:35] <mgottschlag> DoctorD90: if you want to just measure battery voltage, pretty much every ADC will do
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[18:35] <Khajiit> if anyone can tell me of an older phone screen or anythhing with a screen that can be used for a raspi, if you can tell me the name and model of the product i would greatly appreciate it :)
[18:36] <DoctorD90> i understand, i give you rigth...but justnfornlearn, i'd like some chip of some euro, that i can utilise again in future test/project
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[18:36] <exonormal> ok
[18:36] <DoctorD90> mgottschlag: my question was made by 2 face: 1.may i? 2.how? ....1.yes, with adc. 2...... what adc gives me? xD
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[18:37] <exonormal> well... you could get a board to do that
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[18:38] <mgottschlag> well, you'd need an ADC which can be connected via I2C or SPI to the pi, then you can just measure any voltage with one of the ADC inputs
[18:38] <mgottschlag> you'd need to wire the ADC to the pi though, which should be pretty simple :)
[18:38] <DoctorD90> yes, ok. but i mean, what is output of adc for rpi?
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[18:39] <mgottschlag> SPI/I2C bus
[18:39] <DoctorD90> a value? depending from voltage?
[18:39] <mgottschlag> yes
[18:39] <exonormal> https://www.abelectronics.co.uk/products/3/Raspberry-Pi-Model-A-and-B/17/ADC-Pi-V2---Raspberry-Pi-Analogue-to-Digital-converter
[18:39] <mgottschlag> mcp3008 looks good
[18:39] <mgottschlag> not too expensive, but good enough
[18:39] <mgottschlag> s/but/and
[18:40] <DoctorD90> ah ok, so i just need to connect asc-batery-led, make some calc about led's drain, and learn some c code to donit :P
[18:40] <DoctorD90> yes...exactly...
[18:40] <mgottschlag> and there is an adafruit tutorial :)
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[18:40] <mgottschlag> https://learn.adafruit.com/reading-a-analog-in-and-controlling-audio-volume-with-the-raspberry-pi/overview
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[18:40] <mgottschlag> maybe read that first to get an idea
[18:41] <niston> lol
[18:41] <niston> I just found some Molly :P
[18:41] <Khajiit> me mgottschlag ?
[18:41] <Khajiit> i will thanks
[18:41] <mgottschlag> nope, DoctorD90
[18:41] <Khajiit> oh
[18:41] <DoctorD90> i just would learn...i dont need to test space-quantum-temporal-accellerometer's drain of Professor Doc, in "come back to the future" :P just something that says "hey! more or less is this" :P
[18:41] <Khajiit> gotcha
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[18:42] <DoctorD90> exonormal: exactly link that niston gave me :P
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[18:42] <exonormal> lol
[18:42] <mgottschlag> DoctorD90: wiring an mcp3008 to the pi isn't too difficult, if you can program in python or C :)
[18:43] <Khajiit> hey does anyone have a raspi display they can sell me (and be able to make a convincing reciept for tricking taxes)?
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[18:43] <Khajiit> i have bitcoin, paypal, and dogecoin
[18:43] <DoctorD90> mgottschlag: i know only tcl, but this will be a simple task to do in python or c to start....it is just a simple math calc ormlogging stuff :P
[18:44] <DoctorD90> thx guys! ^^
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[18:50] <Khajiit> hey i have a mini solar pannel from an old battery recharger
[18:50] <Khajiit> what do you guys suggest i can build with that :p
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[18:51] <DoctorD90> Khajiit: skynet :D
[18:52] <Khajiit> lol
[18:52] <Khajiit> or just power my raspi with a solor panel :p
[18:52] <Khajiit> OH CRAP A CLOUD
[18:52] <exonormal> lol
[18:52] <KB3VGW> SkyNet damn did it go live I thought I put a turnon date of 9/31/15
[18:52] <exonormal> use a flashlight
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[18:53] <KB3VGW> o well to late
[18:54] <DoctorD90> Khajiit: make an ups for rpy...make a battery packet, attack an adc, and solar panel. so you know voltage of packet, and rpi will not crash with clouds, but solar panel will recharge batteries
[18:55] <exonormal> use an automobile battery
[18:56] <exonormal> should last about a month per charge
[18:59] <Khajiit> well
[18:59] <Khajiit> thats defeats the point DoctorD90
[18:59] <Khajiit> the solor panel is connectected to a battery
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[18:59] <Khajiit> so it charges the battery
[18:59] <Khajiit> so i COULD just plug it in and work right away
[18:59] <Khajiit> but i wanted a project or smthn idfk
[19:00] <DoctorD90> yep
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[19:02] <exonormal> just go get a phone power battery pack.. rechargable
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[19:03] <SyncYourDogmas> Khajiit: remote backup script. I'll swap disk space with you. encrypted automated weekly backups
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[21:30] <usbpi> Hello
[21:30] <keviv> Oi
[21:31] <usbpi> Can you power a Raspberry Pi via the USB Port? Rather than the microUSB?
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[21:32] <GenteelBen> usbpi, I feel this question is so important you named yourself against it.
[21:32] <GenteelBen> s/against/after
[21:32] <keviv> GenteelBen: long time no see
[21:32] <GenteelBen> You can't power devices that way, usbpi.
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[21:32] <usbpi> GenteelBen: xD Your right :)
[21:33] <GenteelBen> keviv yes it's been a whole 15 minutes.
[21:33] <Kamilion> USB 1.1, 2.0, and 3.0 do not allow bidirectional power. Only USB 3.1 with a C-type connector, and a USB-Power Delivery standard IC can do bidirectional power.
[21:33] <usbpi> GenteelBen: Aw man :( time to cancel my USB to USB male to male cable order quick!
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[21:33] <GenteelBen> That sounds like a gay cable.
[21:34] <Kamilion> something about a bundle of sticks?
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[21:35] <usbpi> GenteelBen: xD
[21:36] <Kamilion> usbpi: depending on the model of pi you're using, the data pins are left unconnected, to my understanding. It would be possible to use almost any kind of adapter to USB Micro Male as long as it was regulated reasonably tightly at 5.0V
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[21:37] <Kamilion> of the five pins, i can only see the two on the edge actually connected on my pi2. (+5VCC and GND)
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[21:38] <Kamilion> http://www.dx.com/p/usb-powered-dc-6-24v-to-dc-5v-car-voltage-step-down-dc-converter-module-black-red-220701 <--- this is my favorite power adapter to go with a pi.
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[21:42] <usbpi> thanks Kamilion
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[21:43] <keviv> I thought car receptacles were 12v?
[21:43] <usbpi> hey guys do you know where I can get a 9v 8ah rechargable battery that I can use with my pi for under $30?
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[21:46] <niston> I set my WLAN AP to minimal power, yet it's signal is about 30dB higher than any neighbouring stations xD
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[21:53] <Kamilion> usbpi: depends on where you are
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[21:54] <usbpi> Kamilion: do you know of any websites?
[21:54] <Kamilion> I don't think they make 9v 8000mah, to my knowledge
[21:54] <Kamilion> http://www.powerstream.com/BB.htm
[21:54] <Kamilion> but you can find 6v and 12V cells here pretty inexpensively
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[21:55] <Kamilion> the 12V 8Ah might do you nicely
[21:55] <Kamilion> about $30
[21:55] <Kamilion> not including shipping and hazardous materials charges
[21:56] <Kamilion> ah, upper east coast.
[21:56] <Kamilion> Lemme see who I can find.
[21:58] <Kamilion> usbpi: http://www.batterywarehouse.net/index.html
[21:58] <Kamilion> here's your local retailers
[21:58] <Kamilion> tell them you need a battery for a computer uninterruptable power supply, "U P S"
[21:59] <Kamilion> your alternative is "Absorbent Glass Mat Deep Cycle ATV starter battery"
[22:00] <Kamilion> generally ATV batteries are of better quality than motorcycle batteries.
[22:00] <Kamilion> and often smaller
[22:01] <Kamilion> if you're looking for alternative chemistries to lead acid, http://www.batteryspace.com/ is your best bet.
[22:01] <t3chguy> The raspberry pi 1 can be back powered through its usb port
[22:02] <Kamilion> it's possible to trip the USB polyfuse if it draws more than 480ma
[22:02] <t3chguy> But it is not recommended as it goes around the input circuitry
[22:02] <Kamilion> isn't it?
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[22:02] <Kamilion> or was that 'flaw' only with a specific production run?
[22:03] <t3chguy> Backpowering is not recommended in any case, but possible if you trust your external 5v rail
[22:03] <Kamilion> I remember hearing about that when the motorola atrix lapdocks were getting popular
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[22:04] <Kamilion> http://www.amazon.com/AT-Laptop-Dock-Motorola-ATRIX/dp/B004M17D62 <--- these things.
[22:04] <Kamilion> http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Raspberry-Pi-Lapdock-Connection/
[22:04] <Kamilion> yep, that's where I remembered hearing about backpowering from.
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[22:05] <Kamilion> http://rasathus.blogspot.com/2012/10/a-raspberry-pi-laptop-easy-way.html
[22:05] <Kamilion> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1929
[22:06] <Kamilion> ^ "It is now possible to reliably power the RPI from a USB hub that back feeds power" "This means that by using a Revision 2 (004) board, we can actually do away with all the soldering previously required to get this modification up and running."
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[22:06] <Encrypt> Eh guys!
[22:07] <Encrypt> My GSM Gateway works!
[22:07] <Encrypt> ALL HAIL THE HYPNOTOAD!
[22:07] <Kamilion> <hypnotoad noise>
[22:07] <Encrypt> Kaboon, http://r33b.net
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[22:20] <arcetera> I'm trying to use my RPi2 as a webserver. I have Apache and all that, but how do I link it to my domain?
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[22:22] <arcetera> if possible, link it without touching the router
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[22:24] <torchic__> u need a port fwd
[22:24] <arcetera> how do I do that?
[22:25] <arcetera> brb searching
[22:25] <torchic__> in t router haha
[22:25] <arcetera> welp
[22:25] <arcetera> (welp
[22:25] <arcetera> )
[22:25] <arcetera> i mean
[22:26] <arcetera> Right now I can access it by going to 192.168.11.123:80
[22:26] <Encrypt> arcetera, So, you a a static IP address?
[22:26] <arcetera> I guess
[22:26] <Encrypt> You'd better be sure
[22:26] <Kamilion> create a DNS hostname entry pointing at the external IP address of 50.90.53.82, map the 50.90.53.82:80 port from 192.168.11.123:80.
[22:26] <arcetera> I can just type my pi's local IP and then it loads the default page for Apache
[22:26] <Encrypt> arcetera, I'm talking about your public IP address
[22:26] <arcetera> how to check from SSH
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[22:26] <Encrypt> You can't
[22:27] <arcetera> well shit
[22:27] <arcetera> How do I check in general then
[22:27] <Encrypt> It depends on your ISP
[22:27] <arcetera> whatismyip or
[22:27] <Kamilion> 50.90.53.82
[22:27] <Encrypt> Here in France, the ISP named "Orange" gives dynamic IP addresses
[22:27] <Encrypt> Whereas "Free" gives static IP addresses
[22:28] <Encrypt> arcetera, It be detailed in your internet plan
[22:28] <Encrypt> It should*
[22:28] <arcetera> hmm
[22:28] <arcetera> brb
[22:28] <Kamilion> curl files.sllabs.com/ip/
[22:29] <Kamilion> arcetera: what model of router? It's easy to look it up at http://portforward.com/
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[22:31] <arcetera> update:
[22:31] <arcetera> my isp made my father sign a "no-server" contrac
[22:31] <arcetera> t
[22:31] <arcetera> well then
[22:31] <arcetera> Shit
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[22:32] <Kamilion> then use autossh to expose the port on a remote server's IP.
[22:33] <Kamilion> http://www.tunnelsup.com/raspberry-pi-phoning-home-using-a-reverse-remote-ssh-tunnel
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[22:34] <arcetera> hmm
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[22:36] <Kamilion> any ol' VPS will work, and you mentioned you already had a domain; thus hosting somewhere... generally even those'll work.
[22:36] <Kamilion> unless they have GatewayPorts off in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[22:36] <arcetera> I have a domain but no hosting
[22:37] <arcetera> My hosting right now is done via GitHub pages
[22:37] <arcetera> trying to selfhost with an RPi
[22:37] <arcetera> talking to friends who have servers
[22:37] <arcetera> i am lucky to have friends that have servers
[22:38] <Kamilion> they probably already have something listening on :80 but if it's nginx, you could probably talk them into adding a .conf file with a proxy_pass to you.
[22:38] <arcetera> my friend sean has a ubuntu server with nginx
[22:38] <arcetera> i use apache but hey
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[22:39] <Kamilion> nginx has built in support for reverse proxying; apache doesn't.
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[22:39] <arcetera> so
[22:39] <arcetera> should I switch to nginx on my rpi
[22:39] <t3chguy> Yes
[22:39] <Kamilion> just pointing out, it's already built in on nginx
[22:39] <t3chguy> Much more resource friendly
[22:39] <arcetera> Hmm
[22:39] <Kamilion> depends on what you're doing
[22:39] <arcetera> hosting a website and maybe using gitlab ce
[22:39] <Kamilion> just normal PHP stuff, then yeah.
[22:39] <Kamilion> php5-fpm can talk directly to nginx
[22:39] <arcetera> website, jekyll, gitlab ce
[22:40] <Encrypt> arcetera, It works well :]
[22:40] <Kamilion> just point proxy_pass at it's unix: socket
[22:40] <arcetera> hmm
[22:40] <Encrypt> I'm currently running now:
[22:40] <arcetera> well then
[22:40] <Encrypt> Mail, Web, Printer & Asterisk server on my Pi
[22:40] <Encrypt> \o/
[22:40] <arcetera> how do I remove apache and then use nginx
[22:40] <Kamilion> http://files.sllabs.com/files/storage/code/nginx/minimal_proxy.conf.txt
[22:40] <Encrypt> More to come...
[22:40] <Encrypt> arcetera, sudo apt-get install nginx?
[22:40] <arcetera> oh lmao
[22:40] <Kamilion> nginx just needs something like that to connect to a unix socket
[22:41] <arcetera> well right now it's installing gitlabce
[22:41] <arcetera> and i don't have tmux on this pi
[22:41] <arcetera> i should install tmux
[22:41] <Kamilion> http://files.sllabs.com/files/storage/code/nginx/php-fastcgi.conf.txt
[22:41] <Kamilion> PHP upstreams look something like this
[22:41] <Kamilion> that's the default location in ubuntu -- debian/rasbian might be different
[22:41] <arcetera> let us hope that this doesn't get me in trouble with my ISP
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[22:42] <Kamilion> honestly, most ISPs have too many customers to actually attempt to police them
[22:42] <arcetera> f**k you brighthouse
[22:42] <Kamilion> unless you draw attention to yourself; it's unlikely anything would occur; especally if you stick to something like a REST or AJAX api endpoint
[22:42] <arcetera> eh
[22:43] <arcetera> I'm just running a simple site, Jekyll blog, and GitLab CE
[22:43] <arcetera> maybe some other stuff later
[22:43] <Kamilion> but honestly; if it's git, you can just forward SSH
[22:43] <Kamilion> and skip :80
[22:43] <arcetera> it's a serious website
[22:43] <arcetera> rn it's hosted with github http://arcetera.party
[22:43] <Kamilion> then use something like putty or ssh -D 1080
[22:44] <Kamilion> and tunnel over SSH to reach the HTTP pages for administration
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[22:44] <arcetera> kk
[22:44] <Kamilion> if you're gonna host code publically, use github... if you're gonna do it privately, gitlab is fine, and if you're *gonna* do it privately, you might as well do it *privately*.
[22:45] <Kamilion> if not, there's always bitbucket, which is private by default and makes you pay
[22:45] <arcetera> I want to host some code publically and some code privately
[22:45] <Kamilion> git is decentralized; so it's easy to keep copies of stuff all over.
[22:45] <Kamilion> any copy of the repo is the real thing. The only 'central' place is one you yourself say 'I'm gonna make this the place I use centrally!"
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[22:47] <arcetera> so can I just remove apache2
[22:47] <arcetera> as nginx is now installed
[22:47] <Kamilion> sure -- as long as you don't purge the package, the configuration for apache2 will remain.
[22:47] <arcetera> removed apache
[22:47] <Kamilion> if you reinstall the package, you can just get back to where you were.
[22:48] <arcetera> Earlier in a group chat I said "I'm setting up a RPi webserver with Apache" and then Sean just spammed "nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx nginx"
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[22:49] <Kamilion> yeah, because apache2 is (imho), old, crusty, full of known security holes and exploitation methods, and generally creaky with 'modern' stuff like mod_*whatever*
[22:49] <Kamilion> Don't get me wrong though -- it has it's uses
[22:49] <Kamilion> there's some stuff you can only do with C code and mod_something
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[22:50] <Kamilion> and there's plenty of stuff like mod_passenger that make deployment of stuff like ruby painless
[22:50] <Kamilion> but, anything apache's core can do, nginx can do better, again, IMHO.
[22:50] <arcetera> nginx is now installed
[22:50] <Encrypt> \o/
[22:50] <Kamilion> so, configuration is in /etc/nginx
[22:51] <Kamilion> try not to mess with /etc/nginx/nginx.conf much, the package manager maintains it
[22:51] <Kamilion> instead, sites are defined in /etc/nginx/sites.available
[22:51] <Kamilion> and linked into /etc/nginx/sites.enabled
[22:51] <Kamilion> if you need to add configuration, use .conf files added to /etc/nginx/conf.d
[22:51] <arcetera> "Welcome to nginx!
[22:51] <arcetera> so how do I start nginx at boot
[22:51] <Kamilion> rasbian or ubuntu?
[22:52] <arcetera> raspbian
[22:52] <arcetera> also how do I remove all the shit that comes with Raspbian
[22:52] <arcetera> I don't even need an X server
[22:52] <Kamilion> *shrugs*
[22:52] <Kamilion> I don't use rasbian, sorry.
[22:52] <arcetera> I would have used Snappy Ubuntu Core
[22:52] <Kamilion> I'm a lubuntu guy
[22:52] <arcetera> but
[22:52] <arcetera> S N A P P Y
[22:52] <Kamilion> https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/
[22:52] <Kamilion> use mate then! :D
[22:52] <arcetera> the day ubuntu switches to snappy i'm moving my laptop from kubuntu to debian
[22:52] <arcetera> eh
[22:53] <Kamilion> ubuntu's not switching to snappy, man
[22:53] <arcetera> GitLab CE is only supported on Raspbian
[22:53] <Lina> arcetera: http://blog.cagedmonster.net/node/7
[22:53] <Kamilion> gitlab ce is supported on ubuntu.
[22:53] <arcetera> and from what I've heard setting up gitlab is a nightmare on unsupported operating systems
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[22:53] <arcetera> Kamillion not on arm ubuntu
[22:53] <arcetera> iirc
[22:53] <arcetera> Lina: thank
[22:53] <Kamilion> arcetera: okay, so there's two things, Pi1 is ARM6 and can't run most of the standard ARM distros, and pi2 is ARM7 and CAN.
[22:54] <Kamilion> rasbian is arm6 (and arm7 can run arm6 stuff without a problem)
[22:54] <Kamilion> with the pi2, you can run upstream debian or ubuntu or fedora
[22:54] <SyncYourDogmas> arcetera: start it in rc.local
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[22:54] <Kamilion> as long as you have a kernel from the raspberry pi github kernel repo
[22:54] <Kamilion> ugh, no, don't use rc.local :P
[22:55] <Kamilion> it already has an init script :P
[22:55] <Kamilion> update-rc.d should do it, I think
[22:55] <Kamilion> it's just been a long time since I've had to mess with it.
[22:55] <arcetera> eh, i'll just stick with what i have
[22:55] <arcetera> i've been setting this up for hours lmao
[22:55] <Kamilion> and in general, apt normally enables installed packages
[22:55] <Kamilion> so it should already be coming up on boot.
[22:55] <chithead> running arm6 distro on arm7 hardware is not optimal though
[22:55] <Kamilion> chithead: there's no real difference
[22:56] <SyncYourDogmas> Probably right
[22:56] <Kamilion> both are hardfloat architectures
[22:56] <arcetera> and
[22:56] <arcetera> removing raspbian bloatware
[22:56] <Kamilion> if one was softfloat, it would be a huge difference.
[22:56] <Kamilion> arcetera: if you're on a pi2, you can just use debian from upstream.
[22:56] <arcetera> i'm on pi2
[22:56] <SyncYourDogmas> I'm just used to old arch way
[22:56] <arcetera> gitlab doesn't run on pi1
[22:57] <Kamilion> rasbian is debian packages built for arm6
[22:57] <arcetera> I used to use Arch but I kept breaking it
[22:57] <arcetera> so I installed Kubuntu
[22:57] <Kamilion> likely because gitlab's binaries were built for ubuntu
[22:57] <Kamilion> and ubuntu/linaro have an ARM7 minimum
[22:57] <Kamilion> the init scripts were tinkered with to run on rasbian
[22:57] <Kamilion> that was probably it
[22:58] <Kamilion> (that was all rethinkdb had to do, at least)
[22:58] <chithead> even the fact that ubuntu is compiled for vfp3-d16 instead of the cpu's vfp3-d32 can make a measurable difference in performance (extreme case is 20 percent difference in blas gemm)
[22:58] <Kamilion> okay, but that's blas.
[22:58] <Kamilion> if you're doing MPI on pis, you're going for an extreme case anyway
[22:59] <Kamilion> and I agree with you; that's heavily dependant on CPU architecture and the compiler optimizing for it as best as possible, especally for the register counts and pipelining.
[23:00] <Kamilion> so even an arm7 binary with an arm6 glibc would 'slow things down'
[23:00] <Kamilion> but you're saturating the floating point core
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[23:00] <Kamilion> and if you're going for speed; gentoo is rice.
[23:01] <arcetera> you can install gentoo on a pi:
[23:01] <arcetera> *?
[23:01] <arcetera> well wait
[23:01] <Kamilion> http://fun.irq.dk/funroll-loops.org/
[23:01] <arcetera> of course you can lmao
[23:01] <Kamilion> arcetera: it's an old gentoo joke
[23:01] <Kamilion> back from before gentoo collapsed
[23:01] <Kamilion> and gentwo showed up a few years later, under gentoo's name.
[23:01] <arcetera> you haven't experienced linux hell until you install gentoo on a macbook with an nvidia card in it
[23:02] <arcetera> that
[23:02] <arcetera> that right there
[23:02] <arcetera> that's linux hell
[23:02] <Kamilion> you havn't experienced hell until you run linux from scratch on a broken gentoo because you didn't know WTF you were doing with USE flags
[23:02] <arcetera> oh god
[23:02] <Kamilion> "why does nothing work"
[23:02] <Kamilion> Terminator2-BecauseYouToldMeTo.wav
[23:03] <arcetera> DOT WAV
[23:03] <Kamilion> yes, insinuating it's a short enough sound sample to warrant RIFF compresson.
[23:03] <Kamilion> otherwise I would have .ogg'd it
[23:03] <Kamilion> XD
[23:04] <arcetera> brb rebooting
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[23:05] <Kamilion> sounds like a good kid.
[23:05] <Kamilion> gentoo on a macbook. *chuckles*
[23:05] <Kamilion> Wish I could afford a macbook. But at least I've got a pi2!
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[23:10] <arcetera> back
[23:11] <Kamilion> WB.
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[23:53] <arcetera> I can't seem to remove Apache2
[23:54] <arcetera> I ran sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
[23:54] <arcetera> now what
[23:54] <arcetera> it still starts on boot and I have run sudo service apache2 stop and sudo nginx to start nginx
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