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IRC Log for 2015-09-10

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[0:11] <CTMGame> Hello everyone.
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[0:11] <CTMGame> I'm currently running my Pi through SSH from my desktop.
[0:12] <CTMGame> I can run startx, and X starts on the Pi's display.
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[0:12] <CTMGame> Is there any way I can access the LX-Terminal via SSH from outside?
[0:13] <shiftplusone> CTMGame: X11 forwarding
[0:13] <shiftplusone> What OS is on your desktop?
[0:14] <CTMGame> Windows 8
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[0:14] <CTMGame> I found a tutorial via google.
[0:14] <Encrypt> CTMGame, Simply the LX-Terminal?
[0:15] <CTMGame> shiftplusone: I just found a tutorial via googling "X11 forwarding"
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[0:16] <CTMGame> Encrypt: I can only get to that either from the Pi itself or VNC, but I don't need the screen.
[0:16] <shiftplusone> then you'll want something like xming or vcxsrv
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[0:16] <shiftplusone> Then when you use putty to connect, tick the x11 forwarding box (after also launching the x server)
[0:16] <Encrypt> CTMGame, Then, using a tty with SSH is enough I think
[0:17] <shiftplusone> and you should be able to run X applications like they're local.
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[0:17] <CTMGame> shiftplusone: Ok, thank. I'll try that.
[0:18] <shiftplusone> How've you been, Encrypt?
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[0:18] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, I'm preparing to go to Plymouth... :D
[0:18] <Encrypt> Struggling with asterisn and a GSM modem (<.<)
[0:18] <Encrypt> asterisk*
[0:18] <Encrypt> So that I can call with my computer and get called
[0:19] <Encrypt> It seems not as simple as I thought...
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[0:20] <shiftplusone> I've never played around with that stuff myself
[0:20] <Encrypt> If I had time in London, I would have loved to say Hi to Eben & Liz :]
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[0:22] <shiftplusone> London? We're in Cambridge, heh.
[0:22] <Encrypt> Oh
[0:22] <Encrypt> I thought you were in London
[0:23] <Myrtti> \o/
[0:23] <shiftplusone> heh, nope
[0:23] <Encrypt> That's different :D
[0:23] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, You could come to Plymouth Uni for an event \o/
[0:24] <Encrypt> Moreover, it seems to be a very nice city :D
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[0:24] <shiftplusone> cool
[0:24] <shiftplusone> but all the event stuff is handled by the foundation side
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[0:25] <Encrypt> They seem to be using Mac and Windows computer mostly
[0:25] <shiftplusone> the horror
[0:25] <Encrypt> Time to bring Linux inside :D
[0:26] <Encrypt> Well... for the MSc in Security, I've been told they're using Linux tools... so they start a VM apparently (<.<)
[0:26] <Encrypt> I'll see that once school starts
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[0:27] <shiftplusone> That's mostly how it worked at my uni too.
[0:27] <shiftplusone> Most computers had Windows on them, but if you needed linux, you'd use a livecd or a VM.
[0:27] <niston> Encrypt: all the computer folks in the UK live in Cambridge
[0:28] <Encrypt> Ok :P
[0:28] <niston> ARM was even born there IIRC?
[0:28] <shiftplusone> yeah
[0:29] <shiftplusone> Lots of tech companies here, start ups and other things going on.
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[0:30] <CTMGame> shiftplusone: That wasn't quite what I needed.
[0:30] <Encrypt> 00:30 here... I'd better go to bed...
[0:30] <Encrypt> See you o/
[0:30] <shiftplusone> 'night
[0:30] <CTMGame> night
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[0:31] <shiftplusone> CTMGame: Did you want to connect to whatever is actually on the display physically attached to the pi?
[0:31] <CTMGame> shiftplusone: Basically, yes.
[0:31] <CTMGame> shiftplusone: Mostly just LX.
[0:31] <shiftplusone> that would be vnc then
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[0:31] <shiftplusone> x11vnc
[0:33] <shiftplusone> Or... there's synergy, but it takes a little bit of fiddling to get working right. Then you can use the keyboard and mouse from one PC on another, like it's a multi-monitor setup.
[0:33] <shiftplusone> That's my preferred approach, but I wouldn't recommend it right now.
[0:33] <CTMGame> shiftplusone: I think there's a misunderstanding.
[0:33] <biberao> CTMGame:you're on windows'
[0:34] <CTMGame> biberao: Yep, 8.
[0:34] <biberao> xming
[0:34] <shiftplusone> probably
[0:34] <biberao> use putty enable x11 forwarding
[0:34] <biberao> then run lx-terminal
[0:34] <shiftplusone> biberao: he tried it... it's not what he's asking.
[0:34] <biberao> then i didnt read all sorry
[0:34] <biberao> :D
[0:34] <CTMGame> shiftplusone: I have a Java app which needs to run in X on the monitor that's physically attached to the Pi. I want to start that app remotely via SSH.
[0:34] <at0m> trouble i see with ssh -X, is disconnects. vnc doesnt have that.
[0:34] <shiftplusone> oh
[0:35] <shiftplusone> DISPLAY=:0 blah
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[0:35] <biberao> CTMGame: ya
[0:35] <biberao> run the app on that display
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[0:37] <CTMGame> Ok, I'm gonna try that now.
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[0:41] <shiftplusone> at0m: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xpra
[0:42] <biberao> one plus 2 must rock
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[0:44] <CTMGame> shiftplusone: How do I start the X11 window server without the SSH blocking?
[0:44] <shiftplusone> Either have it autostart, use something like nohup, screen or background it with a &
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[0:45] <CTMGame> It works!
[0:45] <CTMGame> Thank you so much!
[0:46] <biberao> inittab
[0:46] <biberao> change level
[0:46] <shiftplusone> Got there eventually
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[0:46] <CTMGame> I think I could have explained my problem a bit clearer...
[0:46] <biberao> ya
[0:47] <biberao> we deserve some moneyz
[0:47] <shiftplusone> If you don't know the difference between the different approaches, it can be hard to explain which one you want.
[0:49] <CTMGame> Well, I certainly have a long way ahead of me.
[0:50] <CTMGame> Thanks again.
[0:51] <CTMGame> Good night.
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[0:54] <knob> Hey guys, some help please. I have an Adafruit 10DoF IMU board. I am following this guide (link). I can see readings on-screen, yet the values keep climbing off to infinty. http://ozzmaker.com/2014/12/11/berryimu/
[0:54] <knob> I can't figure out what is going on.
[0:54] <knob> Any idea how to start troubleshooting it?
[0:55] <knob> Adafruit has a guide, yet they hook up the board to an Arduino UNO. I do have an UNO here, yet I want to use the rPi for simplicity's sake.
[0:55] <shiftplusone> seems like their library isn't taking drift into account?
[0:56] <shiftplusone> But I don't have one here, so I can't really help
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[0:57] <knob> shiftplusone, thanks... from what I was able to follow on the link from ozzmaker.com, I think he does take drift into account. I *think*
[0:57] <knob> Yet still... everything is off
[0:57] <knob> If I jitter the board back and forth I see the values fluctuate, yet they have a general tendency to climb, and climb and keep on climbing.
[0:57] <shiftplusone> which values?
[0:57] <knob> I have been working on this three nights, and I haven't have a clue.
[0:58] <knob> GyroX and GyroY are the ones that climb
[0:58] <knob> AccXangle stays at 0.000 always, and AccYangle stays at -90.000 always
[0:58] <knob> I must have something off, yet... what??
[0:58] <shiftplusone> I've seen the same thing reported on the forum.... maybe by you
[0:58] <knob> Yup... that's me
[0:59] <shiftplusone> ah
[0:59] <shiftplusone> Have you tried just using RTIMULib?
[0:59] <biberao> guys ideas which device should i get for recording my setopbox
[0:59] <biberao> ?
[1:00] <knob> shiftplusone, haven't tried with RTIMULib... googling that one
[1:01] <shiftplusone> knob: try apt-get install librtimulib-utils
[1:01] <knob> kk
[1:01] <knob> on my way
[1:01] <shiftplusone> then run RTIMULibDrive11
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[1:03] <shiftplusone> or install python-rtimulib and write a quick python thing to test it... here's an example https://github.com/RPi-Distro/RTIMULib/blob/master/Linux/python/tests/Fusion.py
[1:03] <knob> checking those out now! Thank you!
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[1:05] <at0m> shiftplusone: thanks, didn't know about xpra!
[1:05] <shiftplusone> at0m: me neither. Have you tried it yet?
[1:05] <at0m> no
[1:06] <shiftplusone> fair enough
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[1:21] <feverlabs> quick question to see if anyone has dealt with the same issue: rpi2 with adafruit nano wifi dongle. used ada tutorial to create access point. working perfectly, except wifi drops out every 15 seconds. tried three different power supplies, all able to provide over 2A. power saving for wifi is off. tried the fix in the driver options. any ideas?
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[1:21] <Mallot1> I messed up... There is no Audio/Video jack on my raspberry pi 2
[1:21] <shiftplusone> Mallot1: what did you do?
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[1:22] <Mallot1> I brought this one and it was delievered today :/ https://www.adafruit.com/products/2358
[1:22] <Mallot1> shiftplusone: I brought the wrong model
[1:22] <shiftplusone> right... and that has an audio/video jack
[1:23] <shiftplusone> that audio jack has composite video out as well
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[1:23] <shiftplusone> all the models of pi do
[1:23] <Mallot1> shiftplusone: The black jack?
[1:23] <shiftplusone> yeah
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[1:23] <Mallot1> Oh lol :D!
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[1:23] <Mallot1> My friend just noticed that for me :D
[1:24] <Mallot1> Now I feel great again :) Thanks shiftplusone
[1:24] <shiftplusone> no worries
[1:24] <Mallot1> Now It's time to measure the current draw for myself
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[1:25] <shiftplusone> My bet is 450mA
[1:25] <shiftplusone> Maybe 400
[1:26] <Mallot1> We'll see hopefully you are right
[1:26] <shiftplusone> Just want to see how close I get
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[1:40] <KB3VGW> ok guys is there a good page for disabling the fake hwclock and enable the rtc add on chip
[1:41] <KB3VGW> working to add it to our menu system
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[2:30] <hostileND> yello
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[2:45] <KB3VGW> blue
[2:46] <KB3VGW> man this writing a menu for the pi-2 is a killer
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[2:46] <KB3VGW> working to replace the raspi-config
[2:46] <KB3VGW> its closer
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[2:48] <KB3VGW> also rewriting the config.txt file to work with the new menu
[2:48] <KB3VGW> it alot of work did not know what I was diging into
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[2:52] <KB3VGW> still working on the rtc setup
[2:53] <KB3VGW> but I find nothing for doing it on the rpi2
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[3:09] <Berg> good morning Project Managers
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[3:11] <shiftplusone> Berg: Hello, Muffin Tickler
[3:11] <Berg> whats a muffin?
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[3:12] <KDDLB> ⬆➕1
[3:13] <Berg> anyway whats the next most popular OS after raspian im installing another rpi again
[3:13] <KDDLB> Windows
[3:14] <Berg> :)
[3:14] <Berg> ill get it
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[3:16] <Berg> DietPi
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[3:18] <Berg> might be interesting
[3:23] <AlmtyBob> omg node.js I love you so much. I need to use an mpc3008 ADC and sure enough, somneone's written a package that covers MCP3008<->SPI on RPi
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[3:25] <KB3VGW> dietpi
[3:25] <KB3VGW> ?
[3:27] <Berg> https://sourceforge.net/projects/dietpi/?source=typ_redirect
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[3:31] <KB3VGW> ok I want a copy if the dietpi config
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[3:35] <Berg> i cant find the user name or password for that
[3:35] <Berg> grrr not in the read me
[3:36] <KB3VGW> I found it
[3:36] <KB3VGW> and wow the dietpi software supports the c1
[3:36] <Berg> :)
[3:36] <Berg> whats the user name and password please?
[3:39] <KB3VGW> ?
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[3:41] <Berg> i cant log into it
[3:41] <KB3VGW> I am pulling dietpi now and looking at how I can adapy it
[3:41] <KB3VGW> adapt it .. I like it alot
[3:46] <Berg> there is no user name and password on nthe readmen
[3:46] <Berg> grr
[3:46] <Berg> pi
[3:46] <Berg> raspberry
[3:46] <Berg> dont work
[3:47] <exonormal> user is raspberry pw is pi
[3:49] <Berg> thank you
[3:50] <Berg> nope
[3:50] <exonormal> sorry
[3:50] <exonormal> send it back and get another one
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[3:51] <exonormal> try user as pi, pw as raspberry
[3:51] <KB3VGW> wow http://fuzon.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9#p9
[3:51] <KB3VGW> root/dietpi
[3:52] <KB3VGW> for the dietpi img
[3:52] <Berg> thank you
[3:52] <Berg> that works
[3:52] <Berg> why dont they show the user/psswrd more gooder
[3:52] <KB3VGW> read the manual
[3:53] <Berg> i read the readme
[3:53] <KB3VGW> the do on the site
[3:53] <Berg> that came with it
[3:53] <KB3VGW> ahh
[3:53] <Berg> http://dietpi.net/
[3:53] <KB3VGW> well I am on the website I just posted
[3:53] <Berg> oo
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[3:53] <KB3VGW> http://fuzon.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9#p9
[3:53] <Berg> thats the web site they say is theirs
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[3:54] <KB3VGW> thats 1 of them
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[3:54] <Berg> ha ok thanks
[3:54] <KB3VGW> but at the min I am pulling the odroid and the raspberry versions now
[3:54] <Berg> i was looking at soiurceforge links
[3:54] <KB3VGW> going to try it on both
[3:54] <Berg> sure
[3:55] <KB3VGW> going to review the img it seems major small
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[3:56] <KB3VGW> but I want to know if it supports all the boards reading the files for it they did alot
[3:57] <Berg> hmm
[3:57] <Berg> ok im gona pl;ay with it
[3:57] <KB3VGW> coo;
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[4:01] <KB3VGW> wrting a sd now
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[4:03] <KB3VGW> is it debian based
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[4:09] <KB3VGW> its not playing well on the pi2
[4:10] <Berg> no
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[4:10] <Berg> its not letting me connect to my lan
[4:10] <Berg> i gave it static ip and its not finding it
[4:10] <KB3VGW> yeah same here because they iuse a static ip
[4:10] <KB3VGW> this is wrong it should use dhcp
[4:11] <Berg> hmm
[4:11] <Berg> its failing to find dhcp on boot
[4:11] <KB3VGW> yeah
[4:11] <KB3VGW> and the serial terminal is failing
[4:12] <warpie> what OS you using on the pi, Berg?
[4:12] <Berg> dietpi
[4:13] <KB3VGW> http://pastebin.ca/3157112
[4:13] <warpie> ahhh... ok, use ubuntu
[4:13] <KB3VGW> it hangs
[4:13] <Berg> its naughty
[4:13] <Berg> so its not booting out of the bvox it fails
[4:13] <KB3VGW> yep
[4:13] <Berg> ok whats the next best OS
[4:13] <warpie> ubuntu
[4:14] <KB3VGW> I have a raspbian jessie
[4:14] <Berg> i dont wona spend tim e fixing it
[4:14] <KB3VGW> but its nox
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[4:15] <Berg> ok now i need a simple idiot proof OS for running python and a desktop
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[4:15] <warpie> put the Ubuntu 15.04 on it and you won't have any problems.
[4:16] <KB3VGW> I got in using a scanner to find the ip
[4:16] <KB3VGW> I use ipscan
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[4:19] <KB3VGW> I am into the setup and going over it
[4:19] <AlmtyBob> Anyone messed with an MCP3008? I have a temperature sensor that wants 4-30v. Can I hook up the MCP3008 to 5v?
[4:20] <warpie> yes
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[4:21] <AlmtyBob> thanks WARlrus
[4:21] <AlmtyBob> damnit, thanks warpie, sorry for the lazy nick complete
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[4:21] <warpie> lol, np
[4:22] <AlmtyBob> couldn't figure out why my mcp3008 was telling me my temperature was 45 degrees when my arduino with the same sensor was telling me 30c (which is correct, damn it's hot)
[4:22] <AlmtyBob> hoping it'll work better with 5v, we'll see
[4:23] <KB3VGW> ok this is nice but now I have to work on moding this img
[4:23] <AlmtyBob> this is my setup: http://ramenite.net/mcp3008.png (now switched to 5v)
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[4:24] <warpie> wow.. sweet
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[4:25] <warpie> this one is my pi B ver 1
[4:26] <warpie> I have Konversation as the IRC client... surprised me it works...
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[4:27] <AlmtyBob> why's that?
[4:27] <warpie> only 256mb mem
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[4:27] <exonormal> this one is my pi B-2
[4:28] <abnormal> this one is my pi B ver 2
[4:28] <exonormal> my pi B-2 has Ubuntu 15.04 in it
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[4:29] <warpie> so, B ver 1 is 256 mb, B ver2 is 512 mb, B-2 is 1gb mem
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[4:35] <KB3VGW> ?
[4:35] <warpie> whut?
[4:35] <KB3VGW> ok dietpi is nice but takes a bit to get a handle on
[4:37] <Berg> bit confusing when you cat tell what is defined in your configure
[4:38] <Berg> i got it runnin g i had to reset my router tanbler
[4:38] <Berg> table
[4:40] <KB3VGW> ahh ok
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[4:41] <Berg> how can i make a usb hard drive ?
[4:41] <Berg> its got the option there
[4:41] <Berg> interesting
[4:41] <KB3VGW> yeah I am going to have to work on moding the img some
[4:41] <KB3VGW> I like the idea of it
[4:42] <KB3VGW> but it needs some reworking
[4:42] <KB3VGW> they put more work into thier menu I like it alot
[4:43] <KB3VGW> cant wait to test it on the c1+
[4:43] <KB3VGW> my orig c1 became my tv box
[4:43] <KB3VGW> nd the c1 plus is my goal unit
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[4:54] <KB3VGW> night guys
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[5:06] <goppo> hi
[5:06] <goppo> could a rpi be used to measure the voltage across a battery?
[5:07] <methuzla> not without additional hardware. pi has no ADC.
[5:08] <goppo> oh.. the arduino does?
[5:08] <methuzla> yes
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[5:08] <goppo> hmm that's a shame..
[5:08] <goppo> i haven't got a wifi shield for arduino
[5:09] <goppo> i'm trying to plot voltages over several weeks
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[5:10] <goppo> oh it's ok. i'll use an esp
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[6:31] <Jeeves_Moss> is there any trick to installing IoT on the Pi2? I ca'nt get mine to boot. either I get hte rambow screen or a black screen
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[6:47] <Flynnn> Jeeves_Moss: Rainbow screen, that's a new one. How exactly are you trying to install IoT?
[6:47] <Flynnn> Jeeves_Moss: more specifically, where are you getting it from? I never realized there was an IoT protocol or some such
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[6:52] <Jeeves_Moss> Flynnn, sorry, I had missed your message. It looks like it's missing the inital boot files. Either I get the rambow screen, or a black screen. I've tried 3 differen't cards (all of them work for a Linux OS)
[6:52] <Jeeves_Moss> and I'm using the IoT installed downloadable from the M$ site
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[6:52] <Flynnn> Jeeves_Moss: I have no idea what M$ is, do you happen to have a URL? Sorry xD
[6:54] <Jeeves_Moss> Flynnn, M$ = MicroSoft
[6:54] <Flynnn> Jeeves_Moss: ahhh thanks
[6:54] <Jeeves_Moss> https://ms-iot.github.io/content/en-US/GetStarted.htm
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[6:55] <Jeeves_Moss> I think it's just my luck that it won't work
[6:55] <Flynnn> the luck of a developer
[6:56] <Flynnn> Jeeves_Moss: So you're trying to flash a pre-made image, and it won't work?
[6:56] <Jeeves_Moss> Flynnn, I'm the guy who can get a brand new pen, and it won't work. And yes, once you install the prepackaged installer, you can launch a card maker using a flash.ffu file
[6:57] <Flynnn> Jeeves_Moss: my only guess is that you need to reformat and wipe the card (IE, make sure it has no partitions at all on it, and is totally blank) before using the card maker
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[6:58] <Jeeves_Moss> hummm, I think I've tried that. one sec, I'll go get the 16Gb card
[6:58] <Flynnn> Jeeves_Moss: you may also want to try flashing manually by finding an appropriate image and flashing it directly over command line
[6:58] <Jeeves_Moss> tried the CLI as well
[6:58] <Flynnn> Jeeves_Moss: though I've heard the windows command line is a PoS, so, I dunno if that's even possible/how you would do it
[6:59] <Jeeves_Moss> yea, they're totally missing the point when going to the CLI
[7:00] <Jeeves_Moss> LOL!! I can't nuke the partitions in disk manager
[7:01] <Flynnn> Jeeves_Moss: geez
[7:01] <Flynnn> Jeeves_Moss: Maybe you should put linux on a flash drive and boot your machine up in linux for a bit while you install this thing?
[7:02] <Jeeves_Moss> I don't think I can do a FFS file.
[7:03] <Jeeves_Moss> brb, going to boot into Linux
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[7:10] <Jeeves_Moss> Flynnn, my god, it made a mess out of that card
[7:10] <Flynnn> Jeeves_Moss: What did it do?
[7:11] <Jeeves_Moss> 6 partitions!!
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[7:14] <Flynnn> Jeeves_Moss: whyyy?
[7:14] <Flynnn> Jeeves_Moss: that's rediculous!
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[7:15] <Jeeves_Moss> yea. I don't know if it was from the previous Linux install, or if it just made a mess.
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[7:15] <Jeeves_Moss> but, once the installer is done, I'll check aga
[7:18] <Jeeves_Moss> yep, it makes 6 partitions.
[7:19] <Jeeves_Moss> and they seem to be locked. I can't resize, move, delete, etc
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[7:34] <courpse> Anyone know how to disable the leds for network on the pi?
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[7:38] <Jeeves_Moss> courpse, I don't think you can. I think they're hard wired.
[7:39] <courpse> :/
[7:39] <courpse> Bugger.
[7:39] <Jeeves_Moss> sorry. what are you trying to do?
[7:39] <courpse> i have one in the bedroom, and at nights, a bit bright.
[7:39] <courpse> Thats all.
[7:40] <Jeeves_Moss> if you don't need them, then cut the traces
[7:40] <Jeeves_Moss> or lift the LEDs
[7:40] <Jeeves_Moss> or tape them
[7:40] <courpse> lol.
[7:40] <courpse> I guess.
[7:41] <Jeeves_Moss> or tell the wife to stop complaining
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[8:02] <gorroth> question
[8:02] <gorroth> what is your wife doing out of the kitchen?
[8:03] <gorroth> i'm just kidding
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[8:08] <shiftplusone> gorroth: wrong channel for that
[8:12] <Jeeves_Moss> lol. don't worry, I've got MUCH worse than that!
[8:12] <gorroth> i just thought it was funny. it was wide open
[8:13] <gorroth> anyway, here is my video for avrs and rpis and pwms: https://goo.gl/photos/gtRrtPDQA6PK3Dt46
[8:13] <gorroth> beginning of my robot project
[8:13] <Jeeves_Moss> windows IoT or Linux?
[8:14] <gorroth> raspbian
[8:14] <gorroth> windows is something i would never use in a robot
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[8:17] <Jeeves_Moss> lol. ohhh
[8:17] <Jeeves_Moss> I can't get Windows to install
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[8:22] <gorroth> oh i see
[8:22] <gorroth> hmm, i don't know :-/
[8:22] <gorroth> i don't even have an rpi2 yet
[8:22] <gorroth> my pi's are aging
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[8:29] <Jeeves_Moss> ahhhh
[8:29] <Jeeves_Moss> well, I only have one Pi2. And it seems that no matter what I do, it NEVER works
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[8:47] <Berg> huh?
[8:48] <Berg> I would never install microsoft on anything
[8:48] <Berg> <----bias
[8:48] <at0m> Berg: you get that (bias) with the network here :)
[8:49] <Berg> huh?
[8:49] <Berg> im anti social
[8:49] <Berg> no facebook or microsoft
[8:49] <Berg> :)
[8:50] <at0m> Berg: it's to be expected people are biased on a FLOSS support network
[8:51] <Berg> im not know whats dis flooosy is
[8:51] <at0m> Free/Libre Open Source Software
[8:52] <at0m> not support@microsoft.com
[8:53] <Berg> i dont support microsoft sisne they started making me pay over and over for OS's
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[12:04] <Encrypt> Hi o/
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[12:32] <djsxxx> Hey guys, hope this oesnt violate channel rules - Check out ModMyPi's case+stand for the new RPi Display :) http://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/screens-and-displays/raspberry-pi-7-touchscreen-case--plus-stand
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[12:33] <CoJaBo> spam?
[12:33] <djsxxx> Not really spam, only posted it once... ?
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[12:33] <CoJaBo> spam.
[12:34] <djsxxx> whos spamming now :P
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[12:36] <normalra> Maybe CoJaBo likes SPAM canned tuna.
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[14:14] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, My GSM gateway works! \o/
[14:14] <Encrypt> It seems that the imei / imsi parameters in order to discover the GSM modem was a bad idea
[14:15] <Encrypt> I directly set the audio & data ports (/dev/ttyUSB1 and /dev/ttyUSB2) and now it works well
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[14:26] <Matt> Encrypt: excellent!
[14:26] <Encrypt> Yep :)
[14:26] <Encrypt> Now, I'm ready to go to Plymouth :D
[14:27] <Matt> plymouth?
[14:28] <Encrypt> Matt, It's a city in the South West of England (Cornwall), near the sea
[14:28] <Encrypt> I'm going to study there for one full year (MSc Computer & Information Security)
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[14:29] <nid0> enjoy the rain
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[14:29] <Encrypt> x)
[14:29] <Matt> yeah
[14:29] <Matt> they're a funny lot down there
[14:29] <Matt> wrong end of the country and all that :)
[14:30] <Myrtti> oohaah display arrived
[14:30] <Encrypt> nid0, "♫ The rain never bothered me anyway ♫"
[14:30] <Encrypt> :P
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[14:39] <Encrypt> Matt, "Muse" is from Devon. Proof that this is a cool part of the country. :P
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[14:55] <eeguy> Guys, I have tried out two different plotting libraries for python, but it is painfully slow to plot in realtime on the pi..
[14:55] <eeguy> is it at all possible? am i doing something wrong?
[14:57] <Encrypt> eeguy, Why do you want to plot things?
[14:57] <Encrypt> Is it for a report or something?
[14:58] <eeguy> No, it's for monitoring the output of a sensor in real-time
[14:58] <Encrypt> Ok
[14:58] <knob> Good morning all!!
[14:58] <niston> eeguy: try MRTG?
[14:58] <eeguy> no
[14:58] <niston> that should run on the pi
[14:59] <eeguy> i've tried matplotlib and pyqtgraph
[14:59] <eeguy> and it works, but it's lagging a bit
[14:59] <Encrypt> http://gnuplot-py.sourceforge.net/ maybe?
[14:59] <Encrypt> gnuplot works well
[14:59] <niston> if you just need graphs, http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/
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[15:02] <eeguy> but you're saying my solution is lagging due to the plotting packages i use, and not the PI itself?
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[15:05] <niston> dunno about matplotlib and pyqtgraph, but RRDTool performs well even on super low power hardware
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[15:15] <eeguy> niston: i am having trouble installing it.. could you help me perhaps?
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[15:40] <dastaan> @eeguy: I missed the conversation. What're you trying to install ?
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[15:42] <Encrypt> dastaan, Here it is:
[15:42] <Encrypt> <eeguy> Guys, I have tried out two different plotting libraries for python, but it is painfully slow to plot in realtime on the pi..
[15:42] <Encrypt> <eeguy> is it at all possible? am i doing something wrong?
[15:43] <Encrypt> <eeguy> i've tried matplotlib and pyqtgraph
[15:43] <Encrypt> <eeguy> and it works, but it's lagging a bit
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[15:44] <dastaan> Encrypt: Thanks :)
[15:44] <Myrtti> the screen in so cute! I just have to wait for the husband to come home to show me which of his raspi projects I can use to test it
[15:44] <Encrypt> dastaan, Then niston suggested: niston> dunno about matplotlib and pyqtgraph, but RRDTool performs well even on super low power hardware
[15:45] <Encrypt> So, he is trying to install that :p
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[15:45] <zer0her0> Myrtti, you got the new screen?
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[15:46] <Myrtti> yup
[15:46] <zer0her0> mad jelly!
[15:47] <Myrtti> going to hook it up to an Arduino with a shield that can instruct a knitting machine
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[15:47] <zer0her0> oohh nice!
[15:47] <Myrtti> got bored of having my laptop connected and on for days just for that
[15:48] <dastaan> eeguy: I do not have any experience with plotting library but in general, if you can make use of GPU for graphics, that would be excellent and should perform realtime. Again I do not know if any plotting library is available using GPU but you can try googling a lil bit. The lag that you're seeing is mostly because CPU is unable to cope up with graphics generating stuff in realtime. One thing that you can try : You can switch to Rpi 2 if you'
[15:48] <dastaan> re using 1 as it's 6x powerful as you might have read.
[15:48] <Myrtti> so moving it over to a raspi with a display
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[15:48] <zer0her0> Myrtti, just what i was going to say, a coworker complained about that with hers and her sewing machine, wonder if she knows about these projects...i should ping her.
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[16:15] <ali1234> Gadgetoid: is the new display case compatible with the pibow case?
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[16:16] <ali1234> ie https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/raspberry-pi-7-touchscreen-display-with-frame - can the pi also be in a pibow and still mounted on the back like that?
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[16:17] <ali1234> also, i have the pibow coupe
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[16:44] <JK-47> Amazon Dash buttons are $4.99 today for Prime members. These kick off a wifi join when you press the button. So you can arp sniff for arp probes from each ones mac address. Cool cheap remote buttons for interacting with Pi
[16:44] <JK-47> Im using it for my Pi to kick off ifttt calls to my Smartthings gear.
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[17:13] <Peetz0r> ohai! I have overclocked my raspi2 but I see no performance difference at all. Also no significant difference in temperatures of power usage
[17:13] <Peetz0r> and yes, I have rebooted
[17:14] <IT_Sean> did you notice slowness before?
[17:14] <Peetz0r> I measure performance by running "pv < /dev/urandom > /dev/null" 4 times, and looking at the average troughput after a few minutes
[17:14] <Peetz0r> well, no :p
[17:14] <Peetz0r> I just want higher numbers in my benchmarks
[17:14] <IT_Sean> (-_-)
[17:14] * IT_Sean wanders off
[17:15] <Peetz0r> when I run that same command on my laptop, it does 14 MB/s, the raspi does only 400-ish kB/s
[17:16] <traeak> what's the cpu usage look like?
[17:16] <Peetz0r> 4 processes eacht close to (or at) at 100%
[17:16] <traeak> there's tools like top, htop, perf top, etc
[17:17] <traeak> i assume your laptop has a core i3/i5 or i7 in it
[17:17] <Peetz0r> yes it does
[17:17] <Peetz0r> and yes, I know that is is beyond unfait to compare those
[17:17] <traeak> yet you are
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[17:18] <IT_Sean> that ^
[17:18] <IT_Sean> You are comparing a Ferrari F-40 to a clapped out honda civic, and wondering why the civic is slower.
[17:20] <traeak> civic? more like scooter right ? :-p
[17:20] <zer0her0> rickshaw
[17:21] <IT_Sean> Nah, the scooter is the Pi 1
[17:21] <traeak> actually though, does it have anything to do with optimzation or
[17:21] <Peetz0r> I am not wondering why it is slower. I know. I am just comparing the numbers in my banchmark, to confirm that the benchmark actually works
[17:21] <traeak> hardware on the intel core series taht's not on the rpi2 ?
[17:21] <Peetz0r> and yeah, it works.
[17:22] <Peetz0r> besides the fact that the clock speed is almost 3x faster, and the fact that arm and x86 are completely different? :p
[17:22] <Peetz0r> but my question was, why does the overclocking appearantly not do anything?
[17:23] <IT_Sean> Were you hitting 100% CPU usage before? Are you now?
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[17:23] <Peetz0r> the cpu temp is less than 50 celcius, power usage is less than 0.3A, voltage is actually somewhat above 5.0V
[17:23] <IT_Sean> Were you hitting 100% CPU usage before? Are you now?
[17:23] <Peetz0r> IT_Sean: yes, unchanged
[17:23] <IT_Sean> So you were hitting 100% usage before. Are you still?
[17:24] <Peetz0r> yes
[17:24] <Peetz0r> I'll try a different benchmark, brb
[17:24] <IT_Sean> how much did you OC it?
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[17:25] <Peetz0r> http://pastie.org/10410180
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[17:30] <jer> thing about benchmarking is, your benchmark should be bound by whatever device you're benchmarking. That is to say, your benchmark shouldn't print anything while it's testing the cpu, shouldn't write to any files, send any network traffic except when it's outside of the points where it tests stuff
[17:30] <jer> because if you do those kinds of things (also reading/writing to memory is generally a bad thing to do too if you can help it)
[17:30] <jer> your benchmark is then going to suffer due to in those parts, being bound to the speed of I/O. which is slower than the cpu
[17:31] <Peetz0r> I have foudn a different benchmark: time echo "scale=1500; a(1)*4" | bc -l
[17:31] <Peetz0r> that should be just the cpu
[17:31] <jer> so if you're doing a lot of these things in your benchmark code, and it runs the same on two different devices (like pi 1 and pi 2) check these things first
[17:31] <Peetz0r> and I have tried it with and without the overclock, and no significant change again
[17:31] <jer> oh these aren't real benchmarks, just something adhoc
[17:31] <Peetz0r> I just want to see the calculation finish 10% faster
[17:32] <Peetz0r> and that doesn't happen
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[17:32] <Peetz0r> it goed from 11.4-ish seconds to the same 11.4-ish seconds
[17:32] <Peetz0r> and I ran it 3 times, both with and without overclock
[17:32] <Peetz0r> all of the runs are between 11.3 and 11.7
[17:33] <Peetz0r> I was expecting a full second if difference, but nope
[17:33] <Peetz0r> of*
[17:33] <IT_Sean> YOu might want to use a proper benchmarking utility, and not something you've cobbled together with chewing gum and snot.
[17:34] <Peetz0r> what's wrong with using bc for testing (singlecore, yes) cpu speed?
[17:34] <Peetz0r> it's just 'how fast can you calculate this thing'. any cpu benchmark is just that
[17:37] <jer> overclocking won't always mean a set increase in performance. also for one thing, all your benchmark does is test the floating point unit
[17:37] <jer> nothing else
[17:37] <jer> and it's a bad test of the fpu too =]
[17:37] <jer> so, if for instance, you're running softfloat build of linux as an example, it will perform likely only 1 ~ 4% faster with a 10% overclock, if at all
[17:37] <TheLostAdmin> The hard part is writing the benchmark so that it is actually testing "how fast can you calculate this thing" instead of "how fast can you push data through pipe X"
[17:37] <jer> i.e., within the statistical margin of error on the low end
[17:38] <jer> trust people smarter than yourself to write benchmarking code, and use their tools. seriously.
[17:38] <Peetz0r> okay, where do I find a good cpu benchmark for the raspbery pi?
[17:38] <jer> TheLostAdmin, indeed, it's far too easy to write a benchmark that doesn't actually tell you the thing you want to know, while giving you a result that may look ok
[17:40] <TheLostAdmin> jer: some of my favourite examples of that are early HDD benchmarking tools that didn't take into account the side of cache on the disk.
[17:40] <jer> you can always try this: https://learn.adafruit.com/introducing-the-raspberry-pi-2-model-b/performance-improvements
[17:40] <jer> ^^ some quick googling for rpi specific stuff
[17:40] <TheLostAdmin> size, not side.
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[17:40] <jer> TheLostAdmin, oh yes, i remember =]
[17:40] <traeak> did youy verify that the overclock is actually working?
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[17:41] <Peetz0r> traeak: that is what I am trying to do
[17:42] <traeak> well then, verify that the rpi2 is overclocked :-p
[17:42] <traeak> i run into occasionally. change code and rerun tests, nothing seems to happen
[17:42] <traeak> something stupid like stuff isn't properly rebuilding tends to be the culprit
[17:42] <Peetz0r> how do I check that, other than benchmarking?
[17:43] <traeak> nothing changed because nothing changed :-p
[17:43] <Peetz0r> so, how do I check that the overclock is applied?
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[17:49] <traeak> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
[17:49] <traeak> what does that get you?
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[18:16] <sla_erick> ive seen "make kernel_headers"
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[20:15] <AlmtyBob> If I want some remote desktop viewing on my Pi is the standard solution tightvnc?
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[20:24] <ring0> AlmtyBob, just try if it fits your needs. here's a nice guide http://elinux.org/RPi_VNC_Server
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[20:29] <AlmtyBob> ring0: I've used it a lot in the past, just making sure there wasn't some amazing new application I hadn't heard of yet
[20:30] <AlmtyBob> There's always tons of tutorials that frustratingly don't date themselves
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[20:30] <ring0> that's true
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[21:15] <K-202> Hi. Is it safe to install unofficial version of raspbian SPI, I2C http://docs.emlid.com/Downloads/Real-time-Linux-RPi2/ How can it affect RaspberryPI's temperature and lifetime?
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[21:49] <Berg> good morning planet earth
[21:49] <Balzy> Hello! I'd like to ask an opinion, if permitted, about a product similar to the Raspberry Pi but a bit more powerful, it's the Orange PI: http://www.orangepi.org/ Has any of you ever tested it? Would you advise me buying it? I find very appealing the fact it provides SATA and Gigabit ethernet.
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[22:19] <k_j> hi guys
[22:19] <k_j> what's up
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[22:36] <Berg> ^^
[22:39] <K-202> hey, I inserted sdcard with raspbian and started raspberry pi 2
[22:40] <K-202> both diodes (ACT, PWD) are lighting, Ethernet interface is dead and I don't know what's happening
[22:40] <K-202> I don't have HDMI monitor
[22:40] <K-202> What can I do to start RPI 2?
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[22:43] <DMackey> K-202, See if this helps : http://www.element14.com/community/thread/41202/l/raspberry-pi-2-not-booting?displayFullThread=true
[22:43] <DMackey> I don't have an RPi2 yet
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[22:46] <K-202> DMackey, probably config screen is displaying
[22:47] <K-202> DMackey, how can i configure it on my laptop?
[22:47] <K-202> if I can't, I will do it at work 2moro
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[22:53] <Apocx> probably config screen. can try plugging in a keyboard and hitting escape and enter. or if that doesn't work, escape -> right arrow -> enter
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[22:56] <Apocx> I think the Finish option is to right right so probably escape->right arrow->enter is what you need
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[23:07] <ksx4system> is the Wolfram stuff available also for one gigabyte board (model 2)?
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[23:11] <Berg> i installed vnc but iut wants a desktop
[23:11] <Berg> grreeee
[23:11] <Berg> i dont wona install anything thats not needed
[23:11] <Berg> whats the smallest desktop?
[23:11] <Berg> lightdm?
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[23:11] <Berg> or?
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[23:20] <ksx4system> Berg, fluxbox
[23:20] <Berg> tar
[23:21] <ksx4system> lightdm is login manager, you don't really need one (or you could use xdm)
[23:23] <Berg> im trying to set up my pi for rem ote desktop only ksx4system
[23:23] <Berg> yes i know ssh is good
[23:24] <Berg> xdm brings up hand guns cool
[23:25] <ksx4system> Berg: while I'm sure that you could do whatever you're going to do with ssh... here, type apt-get install tightvncserver
[23:25] <Berg> what do you call a rpiu with a hand gun?
[23:25] <Berg> i did that ksx4system
[23:26] <Berg> it wanted a desktop
[23:26] <Berg> you call a rpi with a hand gun SIR
[23:27] <ksx4system> read the friendly manual (or google, it should be possible to use LXDE with VNC server)
[23:27] <Berg> hmm
[23:27] <Berg> i have used lxdm
[23:28] <Berg> lxde not known
[23:28] <Berg> will try it on the next install
[23:28] <Berg> i have a heap of 8gig sdcards
[23:28] <Berg> im playing
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