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IRC Log for 2015-09-12

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[0:23] <fred1807> what is the difference when omxplayer has the option "--live" ? I am playing live streams,, and it is the same with or without it
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[1:22] <amazoniantoad> Hey guys. Is there any way to install veracrypt or truecrypt in raspberry pi?
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[1:22] <amazoniantoad> I need some method of encrypting a hard drive
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[1:25] <CoJaBo> amazoniantoad: Encryption is built-in on most distros; tho the pi installers probably don't make it easy to set up..
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[2:24] <steelcowboy> Question, I have an issue with my Ethernet shutting down if I try to stream too much from my USB hard drive through it (which has its own power supply)
[2:25] <steelcowboy> I was told it's because basically the USB is being flooded
[2:25] <steelcowboy> Will I have the same issue if I replaced my hdd with a thumb drive?
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[3:16] <knob> shiftplusone, ping
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[3:35] <mbt> Hello, I am having trouble with the RPi 4.1.x kernel branch not initializing videocore. A pastebin is here showing kernel log messages from startup and when I attempt to play a sound: http://pastebin.com/RqeVSnvA
[3:37] <mbt> I've been trying to figure out what it is I need to fix, and best as I can tell a recent kernel change modified how it communicates with firmware, but I'm not sure how to validate that my firmware is correct, or even if it is the firmware.
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[3:41] <cr5315> I got a Pi 2 today and I have to do a headless setup, but whenever I try to connect to it via ssh it refuses the connection
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[3:43] <[Saint]> cr5315: are you certain you're attempting the address the right machine?
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[3:44] <cr5315> Yes, I set it to use 192,168.0.222 and it shows up as such in Advanced IP Scanner [Saint]
[3:45] <knob> cr5315, no monitor to connect to it?
[3:46] <cr5315> Nor keyboard
[3:46] <knob> how are you trying to connect to it? From a windows machine with putty? Or a linxu box? Mac?
[3:46] <[Saint]> It's irrelevant. Neither are required.
[3:46] <cr5315> Windows with putty
[3:46] <cr5315> And Android with JuiceSSH
[3:46] <knob> cr5315, can your windows machine ping that ip 192.169.0.22 ?
[3:47] <knob> You have a comma when you posted the ip
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[3:47] <[Saint]> Of course it can ping it.
[3:47] <cr5315> Yes it can
[3:47] <[Saint]> It's rejecting the connection...
[3:47] <cr5315> knob, the comma is a typo
[3:47] <knob> Sorry guys... just trying to help.
[3:48] <[Saint]> Do you have a sane host with commandline access to debug this on?
[3:48] <cr5315> I've got my Windows machine and my Android phone
[3:48] <cr5315> I could set up a linux vm if needed
[3:49] <[Saint]> Lets just go with 'ssh pi@192.169.0.22', nice'n'simple.
[3:50] <mbt> (Sorry if this is a repeat, not sure if it went through when I disconnected)...
[3:50] <mbt> Hello, I am having trouble with the RPi 4.1.x kernel branch not initializing videocore. A pastebin is here showing kernel log messages from startup and when I attempt to play a sound: http://pastebin.com/RqeVSnvA
[3:50] <mbt> I've been trying to figure out what it is I need to fix, and best as I can tell a recent kernel change modified how it communicates with firmware, but I'm not sure how to validate that my firmware is correct, or even if it is the firmware.
[3:50] <cr5315> [Saint], ECONNREFUSED
[3:50] <[Saint]> That is...interesting.
[3:51] <cr5315> It has ssh enabled by default, right?
[3:51] <[Saint]> AFAIK nothing has changed recently in this regard, one of the ideals of the pi is that this shoudl absolutely 'Just Work', sshd should be up and running on first boot of a raspbian install.
[3:51] <[Saint]> Yes, it does.
[3:51] <[Saint]> That's what's refusing your connection.
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[3:53] <nid0> cr5315: unless i've seen it specified you are using raspbian right?
[3:53] <nid0> not seen it*
[3:53] <cr5315> Yes
[3:53] <nid0> and its direct raspbian, you havent imaged noobs onto the card?
[3:54] <cr5315> Correct
[3:54] <[Saint]> Ahhhhhhh....bloody NOOBS.
[3:54] <[Saint]> Oh. I...hmmm. Damn.
[3:54] <[Saint]> That would've been too easy I guess...<eyeroll>
[3:54] <cr5315> It's this https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
[3:55] <cr5315> With uhhh cmdline.txt or something edited to tell it to use the ip 192.168.0.222
[3:55] <cr5315> brb
[3:55] <nid0> well, the may 2015 image deffo has ssh enabled by default..
[3:55] <[Saint]> all the raspbian flavors should definitely have ssh up at first boot.
[3:56] <[Saint]> Hmmmm, lets see if this works OOTB without static addressing and just letting the network assign an IP to begin with.
[3:56] <nid0> when you're back, whats your exact cmdline.txt content?
[3:57] <[Saint]> But, it shouldn't be an issue...I mean, it can obviously contact the device at that address.
[3:57] <[Saint]> This is mildly confusing.
[3:57] <nid0> well, being specific, it can contact *a* device at that address
[3:57] <nid0> no guarantee he hasn't setup 2 devices on the same address :p
[3:58] <[Saint]> Fair point.
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[4:00] <cr5315> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait ip=192.168.0.222
[4:01] <cr5315> https://i.gyazo.com/6cb78880ce145bcfe6122c2e675e107f.png
[4:02] <nid0> just to cover that base fully, whats the full mac address for the device on .222 shown in that screenie?
[4:02] <cr5315> B8:27:EB:AF:F4:B0
[4:02] <nid0> ok, and you do definitely only have 1 pi? no second one hooked up to the network you've forgotten about?
[4:02] <cr5315> Correct
[4:03] <nid0> I take it you've tried restarting it?
[4:03] <cr5315> Yes
[4:03] <nid0> then thats wierd.
[4:03] <nid0> any chance you have a screen you can hook up to it temporarily?
[4:03] <cr5315> Uhhh
[4:03] <nid0> even if its this one
[4:03] <cr5315> One of my roommates TVs might have hdmi
[4:04] <cr5315> I've got my laptop screen and a monitor with vga
[4:05] <cr5315> The roommate in question, however, appears to not be here right now
[4:05] <[Saint]> Then s/he'll be none the wiser... ;p
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[4:07] <cr5315> :p
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[4:38] <cr5315> [Saint], nid0, I'm about to plug it into the TV. It won't have internet because it was on ethernet before
[4:38] <[Saint]> That would somewhat defeat the purpose.
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[4:39] <cr5315> Well, I can ask if I can bring the TV out if that would be better
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[4:47] <cr5315> OK I got the TV where ethernet will reach the Pi
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[4:48] <cr5315> Ok it's up on the TV
[4:48] <cr5315> Except no usb keyboard
[4:52] <cr5315> [Saint], nid0
[4:52] <nid0> does it boot without apparent error?
[4:52] <cr5315> I've got the normal prompt
[4:53] <nid0> next step then, find a keyboard
[4:53] <cr5315> There's lots of errors about /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libconf_rpi.so
[4:53] <nid0> what're the errors?
[4:53] <Berg> why not plug into it ssh?
[4:54] <cr5315> cannot be preloaded
[4:54] <Berg> i just threw a keyboard away seems some one took the usb cable off it and used it for sdomething else
[4:55] <cr5315> Eh
[4:55] <cr5315> I saw a usb keyboard at a thrift store today for like $10
[4:55] <cr5315> I'll get it tomorrow and just run the raspi-config
[4:55] <Berg> new ones cost less
[4:55] <cr5315> orly?
[4:56] <nid0> if you're getting module load errors that indicates some kind of fault, you might initially want to try wiping your card and re-imaging it
[4:56] <cr5315> Alright
[4:56] <Berg> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=usb+keyboard+
[4:57] <cr5315> I lose access to this TV tomorrow
[4:57] <cr5315> Moving out and all
[4:57] <cr5315> Alright, formatted
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[4:59] <[Saint]> lets just see if we can talk to it without messing around with fixed addressing.
[4:59] <[Saint]> talk to the router, see what it was assigned as an IP, see if we get any further with a Vanilla setup.
[5:00] <cr5315> Can do
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[5:05] <cr5315> raspi-config started up by itself
[5:05] <cr5315> If I saw the stuff before it was gone it got .18
[5:05] <cr5315> Checking with IP scanner
[5:05] <cr5315> So it did
[5:05] <cr5315> Still refused
[5:06] <[Saint]> I....hmmm.
[5:06] <[Saint]> This is very strange.
[5:06] <[Saint]> AFAIK one doesn't have to complete the raspi-config section of a first boot before ssh will be received.
[5:07] <[Saint]> That would entirely defeat the purpose of being able to use this device in a headless fashion.
[5:07] <Berg> you can ssh in
[5:07] <Berg> right ip?
[5:07] <[Saint]> Yes.
[5:08] <[Saint]> In all honesty, even though it is the "recommended" installation, if you're running this device headless...raspbian really isn't the best candidate for an operating system anyway.
[5:09] <[Saint]> But if you're nt entirely comfortable with an extremely minimal installation, I'm not too willing to link to an appropriate alternative.
[5:09] <[Saint]> (and, I mean _extremely_ minimal...)
[5:09] <[Saint]> ala: https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[5:10] <[Saint]> For a headless installation, at least 50% of the raspbian install is crap you'll literally never ever use.
[5:10] <cr5315> Sounds good
[5:10] <[Saint]> ANd ~25% of the remainder is educational style "Hey, look what I can do!" type crap.
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[5:10] <Berg> min ibian is fun
[5:10] <[Saint]> It's a great distro for showing first contact users what a raspi is.
[5:11] <[Saint]> It's terrible if you want to actually get things done.
[5:11] <[Saint]> Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut.
[5:12] <[Saint]> raspbian-ua-netinst is the whole other end of the scale.
[5:12] <cr5315> It's installing
[5:12] <[Saint]> You get little more than a shell, a kernel, and ~25% of a debian base install.
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[5:12] <[Saint]> Hell, apt isn't even properly configured at first boot.
[5:12] <Berg> seen dietpi [Saint]
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[5:14] <Berg> DietPi_v81_RPi.img
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[5:20] <[Saint]> Berg: nah, I have no use for that personally. I spin up my own images to suit.
[5:20] <[Saint]> I mean, I am aware that it exists, but I have no use for it.
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[5:20] <Berg> hmm
[5:21] <Berg> wish i could do that
[5:21] <[Saint]> You can.
[5:21] <Berg> <---not smart enough
[5:21] <Berg> repeat
[5:21] <Berg> <---not smart enough
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[5:22] <[Saint]> cr5315: for a frame of reference once the unattended install completes you should be able to ssh directly into root with the password 'raspbian'
[5:23] <[Saint]> If you can not do so, there is some form of spooky voodoo magic going on.
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[5:29] <cr5315> Alright, it's at login
[5:29] <cr5315> Finding ip
[5:29] <cr5315> 18 again
[5:30] <cr5315> I'm in!
[5:32] <[Saint]> Hollah!
[5:32] <[Saint]> Ok, there's a few things I want to run through with you to make this easier on you.
[5:32] <cr5315> One moment, gotta turn it back on
[5:33] <[Saint]> 'dpkg-reconfigure locales && dpkg-reconfigure tzdata && apt-get update && apt-get install apt-utils && dpkg-reconfigure apt-utils'
[5:33] <cr5315> Alright, I'm ready [Saint]
[5:34] <[Saint]> Then your package management won't be all screwy.
[5:34] <cr5315> Do I want all locales?
[5:34] <[Saint]> No. Just whatever your native locale is.
[5:35] <cr5315> utf-8 or iso?
[5:35] <cr5315> por que no los dos
[5:36] <[Saint]> UTF8, generally speaking.
[5:37] <cr5315> Alright that's done [Saint]
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[5:38] <[Saint]> Coolies. Are you comfortable with user management?
[5:39] <[Saint]> (in a commandline)
[5:39] <cr5315> I've done it before, but I'm not too familiar with it
[5:40] <[Saint]> 'adduser insert_desired_username_here && adduser $username_from_last_command sudo && apt-get install sudo'
[5:40] <[Saint]> Then you can open another ssh session as the newly created user, and do 'sudo password -l root' to look the root user.
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[5:41] <[Saint]> (No one should ever be root directly, there's no reason for it if it can be avoided)
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[5:42] <cr5315> Cool cool
[5:44] <[Saint]> After that you might want to do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' (sudo now, for the new user), to make certain the base system is all up-to-date, and then you can go about your merry business installing whatever you would like to.
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[5:45] <[Saint]> If you run into any hurdles, and I'm around, I'll be happy to see if I can't be of assistence there too.
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[5:53] <KDDLB> oh yes
[5:53] <KDDLB> my pi is on transit
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[5:56] <cr5315> You're a real saint, [Saint]
[5:56] <[Saint]> When I want to be. ;)
[5:56] <[Saint]> Its definitely more of an exception than a rule.
[5:56] <cr5315> You want some Dogecoins for being so helpful?
[5:57] <[Saint]> He. No, thank you. It's fine. I wouldn't be here if I didn't wish to help others freely.
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[5:58] <[Saint]> *heh
[5:58] <cr5315> :D
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[6:24] <Berg> yeah he's a meany
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[6:28] <Berg> when i run tightvncserver its letting me log in as root?
[6:28] <Berg> i started it as BOB
[6:28] <[Saint]> Ugh. Why isn't root locked on your machine?
[6:28] <[Saint]> 'sudo passwd -l root'
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[6:33] <Berg> i installed it with minibian
[6:34] <Berg> by the way ssh is enabled by default on raspbian
[6:34] <Berg> just installing another pi
[6:34] <Berg> you cant log in unless your root
[6:34] <Berg> stupid
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[6:34] <Berg> i dont like it some times
[6:35] <Berg> i installed tightvnc with root thats prolly why
[6:40] <TyrfingMjolnir> You should always be able to login as root on localhost
[6:41] <TyrfingMjolnir> PermitRootLogin No
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[6:41] <TyrfingMjolnir> cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep PermitRootLogin
[6:44] <niston> http://eud.dx.com/product/ads1115-16-bit-i2c-adc-development-board-module-for-arduino-raspberry-pi-blue-844384030#.VfOtgKtdKHs
[6:44] <niston> nice 1
[6:47] <niston> wth http://eud.dx.com/product/waveshare-development-board-module-w-shell-for-raspberry-pi-2-model-b-green-multicolored-844379530#.VfOuMKtdKHs
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[7:09] <jj_> hello guys! I have a question. Using raspberry py and python, is there any way I could encode data into an led (as in li-fi) and decode it using a small solar panel(again using python code?)??
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[7:10] <jj_> i think it would be cool to transfer files like that :D
[7:11] <Berg> get optical fiber
[7:12] <jj_> that's not the point.
[7:13] <Berg> why use a solar pannel?
[7:13] <jj_> Im not sure if you guys have seen KipKay's videos on youtube. He managed to transfer audio from a laser to a solar panel hooked to speakers
[7:14] <jj_> and i was wondering if something like that could be done using an LED?
[7:14] <Berg> the python code for getting light intensity is around on the web
[7:14] <Berg> analog to digital
[7:14] <Berg> it can be done
[7:15] <Berg> how much change in power would a led make on a solar panel?
[7:15] <jj_> why solar panel? well, it's either that or a photoresistor i have on a radio shacks electronics learning lab kit...
[7:15] <Berg> use the photoresister
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[7:16] <jj_> well, for testing purposes it the LED would be generally next to the solar panel
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[7:16] <niston> ha, there used to be IR wireless headphones
[7:17] <jj_> thanks berg. I am new to electronics, and just learning stuff like this fasinates me, and keeps me from getting bored--ITS FUN! :D
[7:17] <jj_> is there a reason why a photoresistor would be better?
[7:17] <jj_> i dont know better...
[7:17] <Berg> more sensetive then a solar panel
[7:18] <jj_> it's a solar panel just a bit bigger than the ones found on calculators lol
[7:18] <Berg> :)
[7:20] <jj_> so let me get this righ, to get something like this to work i would need to find code that takes analog as input and ouputs as digital?
[7:20] <KDDLB> I remember a science project that I saw
[7:20] <KDDLB> Audio via led modulation
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[7:21] <jj_> KDDLB: that is cool!
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[7:22] <jj_> though....im wondering....I don't think the raspberry pi can get analog signals as input can it??
[7:23] <jj_> all I've done w/ a rasperry pi is turn on/off LEDs....it's nice, but ummm, not very fun
[7:23] <Berg> yes
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[7:24] <Berg> get analoga to digital converter
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[7:24] <jj_> what is that?
[7:24] <Berg> http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCF8591-AD-DA-converter-module-analog-to-digital-to-analog-conversion-Arduino-/170934293952?hash=item27cc7a55c0
[7:24] <Berg> i have a few of these around doing stuf
[7:25] <jj_> i wonder if i can build that w/ electroni parts i have in my Radio Shacks Electronic Learning Lab, it's got a lot of IC, and all that stuff
[7:25] <Berg> you have that chip?
[7:25] <Berg> pcf8591
[7:25] <jj_> can the raspberry pi take in digital signals though?
[7:26] <Berg> yes
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[7:26] <Berg> that little 1.10 it5em does analog to digital
[7:27] <Berg> look at c2i pins on the rpi
[7:27] <Berg> its configured to anable it in the raspi-cdonfig
[7:27] <jj_> i have: ic quad op amplifier 324, ic CMOS quad 2-input nand gate 4011(x2), ic CMOS quad 2-INPUT NO
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[7:28] <Berg> oops i2c
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[7:29] <jj_> nor gate, 4001, IC DUAL-D FLIP-FLOP 4013, DECADE counter/decoder 4017, phase-locked loop 4046, hex inverting buffer4049, quad bilateral switch 4066, cmos 4 bit presettable up/down counter 4029, BCD to 7 Segment Decoder 4511, exclusive or gate 4070, dual op amp 272, power amp 386, quad comparator 339, timer 555, regulator 7805, NPN transistor, PNP transistor, power MOSFET
[7:30] <jj_> those are all the IC i have :(
[7:30] <Berg> i love 555 chip
[7:32] <[Saint]> jj_: why use a solar panel over a photodiode?
[7:33] <[Saint]> jj_: also - transmission length with an LED is going to be several centimetres.
[7:33] <[Saint]> That worked with a laser because of the intrinsic properties of lasers.
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[7:34] <[Saint]> with an LED, with no focal point, adjustable or not, even in perfect darkness your transmission distance is still only going to be in the order of centimetres.
[7:34] <jj_> well, i just want to see if i can build one. distance doesnt not matter until i can get it to work, later i might do it differently
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[7:35] <[Saint]> transmission speed is also going to hilarious w/ LED vs laser.
[7:36] <jj_> and i honestly didn't know if a solar panel or photodiode was better, the latter by far sounds like it would be the best choice
[7:36] <Berg> :)
[7:36] <[Saint]> certainly the cheapest option.
[7:36] <Berg> he already has it?
[7:37] <[Saint]> solar panels or many orders of magnitude more expensive than a photodiode.
[7:37] <[Saint]> s/are/or/
[7:37] <[Saint]> errrr, s/or/are/, even.
[7:37] <jj_> yes i have a photodiode embedded on a Radio Shack Electornics Learning Lab
[7:38] <jj_> lol....the solar panel i was talking about was one i took out of a calculator lol
[7:39] <jj_> it can get up to 5V from a lightbulb (about 7V when very close to it)
[7:40] <jj_> BERG what are you using your PCF8591 for? and also do i need to have an Arduino to use it?
[7:40] <Berg> arduino no
[7:41] <Berg> i have a light sensor on it that i use to detect5 daylight
[7:41] <Berg> pretty symple
[7:41] <jj_> hmm, couldn't you have used a simple photodiode for that?
[7:42] <jj_> lamp lights dont even need that to turn on at night
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[7:42] <Berg> i have a solar array on my roof
[7:43] <jj_> i see. how much power do you get from it?
[7:43] <Berg> about 18kw a day
[7:44] <jj_> is that a lot? how much do you usually use a day?
[7:44] <Berg> 10 to 15kw
[7:44] <jj_> damn nice!
[7:44] <Berg> its a lot
[7:44] <Berg> wona see
[7:44] <jj_> so u dont even need to pay for electricity.
[7:44] <jj_> sure
[7:45] <Berg> i pay for the wires and poles
[7:45] <Berg> they pay me for extra i make
[7:45] <jj_> what?
[7:45] <Berg> http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/v/bergs+place/?g2_GALLERYSID=ffc6d9d551841a13af20bff3f94f1345
[7:45] <jj_> you have to pay for the electircity you make???
[7:45] <Berg> lots pictures and on the last page is the light sensor moduel
[7:45] <Berg> no
[7:46] <Berg> http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/v/bergs+place/SDC10530.JPG.html
[7:46] <Berg> that on e has the light sensor on it
[7:47] <Berg> one sec ill find some code need to change sd cards
[7:47] <[Saint]> I recently wired up a pushbutton SD card selector for my aging raspi B2.
[7:48] <[Saint]> I broke out the sdcard adapter with a ribbon cable and made a 5-SDcard pushbutton selector array, lol
[7:48] <jj_> u have a lot of stuff plugged into it. what are you using hte ultrasonic(??) for ?
[7:49] <[Saint]> (pro tip: don't switch sdcards on a running image...Bad Things(TM) happen)
[7:49] <[Saint]> I found that out the hard yet amusing way satisfying my curiousity.
[7:49] <[Saint]> Kinda like a ahrdware chroot that breaks everything! :)
[7:49] <jj_> that's so nifty! i did hear the sd card slot ages over time, and becomes defected. it still hasn't happend to mine yet
[7:50] <jj_> the only thing i have to sometimes do is unplug the RPie while running....
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[7:51] <jj_> freezes, or can't get to the terminal somehow (not keyboard plug in)
[7:51] <[Saint]> Opens Berg's image; "...is that? ...hmmmmm"; fires up image editor; selects colour picker; checks; "Yes. ...yes it is, a pink mouse and mouse pad".
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[7:51] <jj_> lol, looks red to me
[7:51] <[Saint]> [Saint]: <-- colourblind
[7:51] <jj_> the mouse definelty pink
[7:51] <Berg> its pink
[7:52] <[Saint]> I haven't seen a mouse pad in _years_.
[7:52] <[Saint]> Is that seriously a ball mouse?
[7:52] <The_Borg> one sec pastbin this code for ya its not mine but it works
[7:52] <[Saint]> Actually, I haven't seen/used a cabled mouse in years either.
[7:52] <The_Borg> i have cables to all my mices
[7:52] <[Saint]> Also - wipe your damn monitor, lol!
[7:52] <The_Borg> they run away otherwise
[7:53] <The_Borg> <---also berg
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[7:53] <[Saint]> The dust all over your workstation makes me want to come over there with some Pledge.
[7:54] <The_Borg> http://pastebin.com/dj08H2pJ
[7:54] <The_Borg> what dust
[7:54] <jj_> did you use the drum from the dryer to make a wind farm?
[7:54] <The_Borg> thats dead skin
[7:54] <The_Borg> yes
[7:54] <The_Borg> it worked
[7:54] <The_Borg> then i made a bigger one
[7:54] <jj_> how much power do youg et from that one?
[7:55] <The_Borg> that pastebin link is the python code for getting light intencity from a analog sensor
[7:55] <jj_> ok, thanks!
[7:55] <The_Borg> nun now i updated
[7:55] <[Saint]> ...y'know dust /is/ mostly dead skin, right?
[7:55] <[Saint]> Or was that the joke?
[7:55] <The_Borg> so was i
[7:55] <The_Borg> its ok i know you a meany
[7:55] <The_Borg> :)
[7:56] <The_Borg> i blame berg he's a bad influence on me
[7:56] <The_Borg> so tou need to learn to code in python and learn electronics jj_
[7:56] <The_Borg> good ambition
[7:58] <jj_> i would consider myself a beginner in python
[7:58] <The_Borg> its ok we was all beginners in the begiing
[7:59] <jj_> i made a small finance program to help me better manage my paycheck lol :P
[7:59] <The_Borg> i eat pay checks
[7:59] <The_Borg> yum
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[8:00] <The_Borg> anyway if you search on the net for python i2c-tools etc all the parts will fall into place if you have your bits to wire up
[8:00] <[Saint]> I would say that's a rather large misconception.
[8:00] <[Saint]> Electronics != python
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[8:00] <The_Borg> no one said it did
[8:00] <[Saint]> it's entirely possible to avoid that hideous journey down the rabbit hole if you want to.
[8:01] <The_Borg> well he has parts not modules
[8:01] <The_Borg> he will eventualy go buy pre made modules
[8:01] <[Saint]> The_Borg: do you /actually/ have split personalities, lol?
[8:01] <[Saint]> "no one said it did"
[8:01] <[Saint]> errr...
[8:01] <[Saint]> [17:56] <The_Borg> so tou need to learn to code in python and learn electronics jj_
[8:01] <The_Borg> ask berg
[8:01] <[Saint]> Yeah, yeah you did.
[8:01] <jj__> https://ptpb.pw/2AcJ so that's the link to the finance program i made using python, lol i still have to work on it a bit more though, not finished w/ it
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[8:02] <The_Borg> python *AND* electronics dont mean they are the same
[8:02] <The_Borg> sheesh man
[8:03] <[Saint]> Well, I still reject the statement as true. One doesn't need to learn python for electronics at all.
[8:03] <The_Borg> jj_ it dont open for me i have too many add blocks so its fried web page
[8:03] <The_Borg> i never said that
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[8:04] <[Saint]> You literally did.
[8:04] <The_Borg> its said you learn python and electronics is a good ambitions
[8:04] <The_Borg> so
[8:04] <The_Borg> did not
[8:04] <The_Borg> read it again
[8:04] <The_Borg> read the actual words
[8:04] <The_Borg> not asume
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[8:05] <jj__> hmm....it didn't open up for me iehter. maybe i did the code wrong lol
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[8:05] <The_Borg> :)
[8:05] <The_Borg> its ok
[8:05] <[Saint]> "need to learn to code in python" is harly an ambiguous statement.
[8:05] <The_Borg> im not a banker
[8:05] <[Saint]> *hardly
[8:05] <The_Borg> i have no idea why you run off on a topic that is not related to the statement
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[8:06] <The_Borg> jj_ i would consider myself a beginner in python
[8:06] <jj__> https://ptpb.pw/e7Mr this url works :P
[8:06] <The_Borg> i said you need to learn python
[8:06] <The_Borg> and if he want to use his electrical bits he need to learn electronics
[8:07] <jj__> that is my total beginner python code :P, but i am proud to say i wrote the whole thing lol, lots' of print statements, but hey
[8:07] <The_Borg> its not bad jj_
[8:08] <The_Borg> i see your using python3 syntax
[8:08] <The_Borg> good
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[8:08] <jj__> yeah, i was debating weahter ot use 2 or 3, but opted for 3, since well, sooner or later it will be the standard
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[8:08] <jj__> well, maybe not. but i just wanted ot keep up to date
[8:08] <The_Borg> it may take a while
[8:08] <The_Borg> it still works in py2
[8:09] <The_Borg> anyway good luck with your project
[8:09] <jj__> thanks :D
[8:09] <[Saint]> I still can't gel with the "need to learn python" statement. That's only really going to be true if you want to take a highly travelled road and use someone's set of helper libraries.
[8:09] <[Saint]> IMO this would be easier to pick up and more efficient to code in C.
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[8:10] <[Saint]> As is...pretty much everything.
[8:10] <The_Borg> python is a laymans C
[8:10] <[Saint]> Python you can take or leave.
[8:10] <The_Borg> :)
[8:10] <[Saint]> C is totally unavoidable.
[8:10] <[Saint]> You MUST learn C.
[8:10] <The_Borg> no
[8:10] <jj_> is that c, c#, or c++
[8:10] <[Saint]> C
[8:11] <[Saint]> not "bastard C" :p
[8:11] <The_Borg> i feel your over zellous in your ambition to develope others education in C
[8:11] <The_Borg> C#
[8:11] <The_Borg> hahahqa
[8:12] <jj_> i havn't delved into c yet, but i would lke to learn it as well. I started w/ python b/ it's easy to learn, and well for someone like me it made coding easier to udnerstand
[8:12] <The_Borg> whats the new fad language of this year?
[8:12] <jj_> plus i started it at code academy. they still dont have C up yet
[8:12] <The_Borg> i think if you can get the mind set of coding languages fall into place
[8:13] <The_Borg> i need bacon
[8:13] <The_Borg> bbl
[8:13] <[Saint]> The_Borg: webdev
[8:13] <[Saint]> re: fad-of-the-year
[8:13] <The_Borg> i like css
[8:13] <jj_> yes. i did do a bit of reding on c, and while making the hello program having some knowledge of python code I could understand it a bit better
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[8:13] <The_Borg> yes
[8:14] <[Saint]> The idea behind is is appealing, architecture and browser agnostic entirely portable webapps are a good thing.
[8:14] <The_Borg> there has been many fads all started by companies wanting your coins over the decades
[8:15] <The_Borg> waiting to get it free is not a bad thing
[8:15] <[Saint]> All a part of the "move everything to the cloud-o-sphere" movement.
[8:15] <The_Borg> i dont get that
[8:15] <The_Borg> i would never put my stuff on a cloud takes too long to get it back its not like instant
[8:16] * The_Borg mutters waiting for it to rain
[8:16] <The_Borg> coffee get me a latte
[8:17] <[Saint]> What locale are you in? One of the remaining ones with hilarious third world internet?
[8:17] <[Saint]> In my case, I can stream a flac8 lossless audio track in less time than it takes my RAID array to spin up.
[8:18] <[Saint]> cloud-o-sphere really /is/ the future, for better or worse.
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[8:20] <[Saint]> "usual" web-stuffs I can sit on around 40Mb/s, on a heavily seeded torrent I can push around 80Mb/s
[8:20] <[Saint]> Depends on how fat the service pipe is, really.
[8:20] <[Saint]> Google and MS' Azure are some of the few services able to feed me as fast as I can actually consume.
[8:21] <The_Borg> my best effort for download speed is maxed at about 300k
[8:21] <The_Borg> not often i get that
[8:21] <[Saint]> Ah. I see.
[8:21] <[Saint]> Yeah, I understand the cloud hate then.
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[8:21] <The_Borg> ite realy a waste of me time and bandwidth
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[8:22] <The_Borg> so i store all me stuff here sept themm pictures i wona show about
[8:22] <[Saint]> Which must take forever to upload.
[8:22] <The_Borg> well upload is slower as you know
[8:22] <[Saint]> I bet your upspeed /reaaaaaaally/ blows.
[8:23] <[Saint]> heh - snap.
[8:23] <The_Borg> it does
[8:23] <[Saint]> what, like...~30k?
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[8:23] <The_Borg> but still i do have fun and that is the main aim
[8:23] <The_Borg> 70k
[8:23] <The_Borg> on average
[8:23] <The_Borg> they huge images too some of them\
[8:23] <[Saint]> Oh, sure. It's serviceable speed, sure. For most things.
[8:24] <The_Borg> but its what makes me happy that matters learning and showing
[8:24] <[Saint]> I mean...you're here, so, that's something.
[8:24] <The_Borg> i play warzone online too
[8:24] <The_Borg> i have plenty of speed for that
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[8:24] <The_Borg> its takes very little
[8:24] <The_Borg> 10 player warz are not uncommon
[8:24] <[Saint]> Assault Cube is another extremely low-throughput online multiplayer.
[8:25] <[Saint]> But its an FPS.
[8:25] <The_Borg> i have a lan network thats faster then batman but thats no use online
[8:25] <[Saint]> You can play it on a commodore 64 with 56k, in theory.
[8:25] <The_Borg> :)
[8:26] <The_Borg> when we had 56k modems i was maxing 5kbs download
[8:26] <The_Borg> lick your finger and hold it on the plug
[8:26] <[Saint]> I still have a dialup connection. Great for powercuts. The UPS can keep just a modem and one of my SBCs awake for ages.
[8:26] <The_Borg> hehehe
[8:26] <The_Borg> mine wireless isp
[8:27] <[Saint]> Ah, nice.
[8:27] <The_Borg> i live in the bush no phone
[8:27] <The_Borg> i have house power for 1 day with no outside power
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[8:27] <[Saint]> I'm stuck with these guys if I want to keep my true unlimited plan with no traffic shaping.
[8:27] <The_Borg> thats if i dont ration
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[8:27] <[Saint]> All the other guys offer "unlimited" plans that shape PTP traffic.
[8:28] <The_Borg> thats bullcrap
[8:28] <The_Borg> sheesh
[8:28] <[Saint]> mhm.
[8:28] <[Saint]> sure is.
[8:28] <The_Borg> well we have unlimited isp services out there for 35 bucks a month
[8:28] <The_Borg> sept i cant get it here
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[8:28] <The_Borg> so im happy with my service
[8:29] <uriah> hello... trying to get a raspi camera working with a model a, but no luck so far
[8:29] <uriah> is the red LED supposed to stay on, or only when taking a photo / recording a vid?
[8:29] <uriah> because when i run raspistill, it flashes once, and i get the following error:
[8:30] <uriah> mmal: mmal_component_create_core: could not find component 'vc.ril.camera'
[8:30] <Berg> been invitred to a war
[8:30] <uriah> and no flashing again until i reboot the raspi
[8:32] <uriah> i'm trying to get this working on void linux, btw
[8:33] <uriah> vcgencmd get_camera says supported=1 detected=1
[8:33] <uriah> 128mb is being allocated to the gpu
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[12:33] <mdt87> hi @ all
[12:34] <mdt87> anyone knows how to flash a tar file to my microsd under windows?
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[12:40] <mdt87> :(
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[12:44] <mdt87> please choki help me
[12:44] <BCMM> can one currently play Opus audio easily on the n900?
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[12:46] <mdt87> BCMM i don't think so
[12:47] <choki> mdt87: what?
[12:47] <mdt87> i just wish ti know how to flash a tar file to my microsd under windows?
[12:47] <choki> i dont use win
[12:47] <mdt87> and under lin?
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[12:48] <BCMM> mdt87: what do you mean by "flash" a tar? is there a filesystem image in there? or you just want the contents of the tar on the existing filesystem on the uSD ?
[12:49] <BCMM> mdt87: damn, just realised i was in the wrong channel, sorry (with the n900 question)
[12:49] <mdt87> np
[12:49] <mdt87> i just downloaded an operating system for rpi2 but there's no img file
[12:49] <mdt87> only a tar.xz
[12:49] <BCMM> if you just want to extract a tar on windows, peazip can do that
[12:49] <choki> mdt87: i guess u have to unpack it
[12:49] <choki> use 7zip
[12:49] <BCMM> (other things like winrar i think can do it to, but peazip is open source)
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[12:50] <mdt87> i've unpacked the archive and i got a .tar file
[12:50] <mdt87> but the problem is
[12:50] <mdt87> how to install on my rpi2?
[12:50] <choki> unpack the tar file
[12:50] <mdt87> done
[12:50] <choki> then there have to be an iso or img file
[12:51] <BCMM> technically it could be just files in an archive, with a self-installing initramfs thingy
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[12:51] <mdt87> sadly not, in the unpacked folder i see a lot of subfolders like boot, usr, data etc...
[12:53] <choki> weird :/
[12:53] <choki> isnt there an instruction on the download site?
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[12:54] <choki> did you download noobs?
[12:54] <choki> because then the install is different
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[12:54] <mdt87> there's only one version and it's a tar.xz archive
[12:54] <mdt87> sadly no instructions on the website -.-
[12:54] <choki> mdt87: what about https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/noobs-setup/
[12:55] <mdt87> no it's not that
[12:55] <mdt87> it's this
[12:55] <mdt87> http://www.sifteam.eu/sif-box
[12:55] <choki> i would try the "noobs" way
[12:55] <mdt87> i'll try the n00bs way
[12:55] <choki> because if i unpack noobs tar i also get folders like boot etc.
[12:57] <mdt87> mmm so i've just to extract the archive to the sd
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[13:23] <choki> i wonder if the performance of the pi 2 is that much better. i tried `pqiv` yesterday to create a fading slideshow with full hd pictures. didn't work quite well, all i got was really slow performance without any fading effects
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[14:43] <Tenkawa> hi all
[14:44] <H__> oi
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[14:45] <Tenkawa> anyone done much practical benchmarking between ext4 and f2fs on the rpi2 for general use?
[14:49] <ShorTie> not really, but i'd suggest using the github version of f2fs, because what is in apt-get is like old
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[14:51] <Tenkawa> ShorTie: i'm using core debian sources anyway not rpi
[14:52] <Tenkawa> no raspbian, etc for me
[14:53] <ShorTie> ok, but i'd still check to see how old it is
[14:53] <Tenkawa> indeed
[14:53] <Tenkawa> i think the 4.2 kernel one is fairly new
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[14:54] <Tenkawa> Ver: 1.4.1 (2015-03-04)
[14:55] * Tenkawa goes and grabs github version
[14:57] <Tenkawa> cheers all.. time to work on stuff outside before it pours again.. Thanks ShorTie
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[15:46] <swente> hello. anyone an advice how to get kivy working with the new raspberry 7" touch display? X works fine, touch is working. but kivy does not respond on touch-events although it discovers the FT5406-device.
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[16:04] <swente> for the logs: if kivy doesn't react on touch-events although X11 does: check kivy's [input]-config. in my case (after installation as in the tutorial) default was "hidinput", but "mtdev" is required.
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[16:15] <Encrypt> Hey guys! o/
[16:15] <Encrypt> I have new photographs for you :D
[16:16] <Encrypt> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19626172/RPi_1.jpg / https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19626172/RPi_2.jpg / https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19626172/RPi_3.jpg
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[16:22] <at0m> Encrypt: what's it do?
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[16:22] <Encrypt> at0m, Mail, web, printer server + GSM gateway (with asterisk)
[16:23] <Encrypt> More to come
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[16:23] <Encrypt> :D
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[16:24] <at0m> sweet, gsm gateway. i'm looking for old usb modem to do that, maybe old phone might work then. got some usb cable for it lying around
[16:24] <at0m> usb modem to landline, if that'd work
[16:24] <at0m> (not sure if fax modems do voice, too)
[16:25] <at0m> fax/dialup/...
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[16:26] <Encrypt> at0m, Would you have any question regarding GSM gateways, don't hesitate to ask me
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[16:26] <Encrypt> I really struggled to make it work...
[16:26] <MegaUZI> hello
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[16:26] <at0m> Encrypt: thanks, will do once i get to that again!
[16:27] <MegaUZI> I was wondering about how I could get a VGA to HDMI adapter, compatible with Raspberry PI 2
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[16:28] <Encrypt> VGA to HDMI? (<.<)
[16:28] <Encrypt> There is already an HDMI port on the Pi
[16:28] <Encrypt> So, why would you use an HDMI adapter?
[16:28] <MegaUZI> I have a VGA monitor
[16:29] <MegaUZI> and I would like to plug it through some kind of converter to the HDMI port of the pie
[16:29] <Encrypt> Ok
[16:30] <MegaUZI> I was wondering if the pie wouldn't struggle at the power requirements of a converter
[16:30] <Encrypt> MegaUZI, If I were you, I'd buy this kind of thing: http://davidtribal.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/VGA-RCA.jpg
[16:31] <at0m> MegaUZI: try to get one with its own power supply
[16:31] <at0m> for hdmi>vga, at least
[16:31] <MegaUZI> Encrypt, composite ?
[16:31] <MegaUZI> at0m, ok
[16:31] <Encrypt> MegaUZI, Yes
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[16:31] <Encrypt> The Pi has a composite output
[16:32] <MegaUZI> I thought it was a audio jack
[16:32] <at0m> MegaUZI: it's TRRS, includes video
[16:32] <Encrypt> That would be better because if you buy an HDMI to VGA adapter, there will be a chip inside the adapter which will convert the numeric signal into an analog one
[16:32] <Encrypt> Which is already done by the Pi
[16:32] <at0m> my brother uses hdmi>vga adapter, size of the pi
[16:33] <Encrypt> So, composite to VGA adapters are cheaper... since it's only copper
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[16:34] <at0m> hadn't thought of ^
[16:34] <MegaUZI> but the quality
[16:36] <MegaUZI> wait
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[16:36] <MegaUZI> The composite plug is only for video ?
[16:37] <at0m> https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/2ba1js/trrs_av_cables/
[16:38] <Encrypt> Oh, wait
[16:38] <Encrypt> Do you have a Raspberry Pi 2 or 1?
[16:38] <Encrypt> Ah
[16:38] <Encrypt> Raspberry Pi 2
[16:38] <Encrypt> Ok :]
[16:38] <Encrypt> Then, http://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express-3-5mm-Plug-Cable/dp/B0007V6JCK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1405928746&sr=1-1&keywords=TRRS+A%2FV could be a nice solution
[16:39] <at0m> to make life more exciting, there's a couple different TRRS standards
[16:39] <at0m> or, no standard really
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[16:47] <MegaUZI> hi
[16:47] <DMackey> o/
[16:47] <MegaUZI> (sorry my internet stopped working momentarily)
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[16:59] <nonickforme> yay
[16:59] <nonickforme> People ahere are alive
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[17:00] <nonickforme> Anypone here do any kind of Pi hardware development
[17:00] <nonickforme> IE: baremetal
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[17:02] <nonickforme> anyone...?
[17:03] <at0m> nonickforme: not everyone's always having eyes on this. give it some time.
[17:03] <nonickforme> at0m, >_>
[17:04] <nonickforme> I know there are many people here watching the chat that are scared to speak up out of fear of soundign stupid
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[17:04] <at0m> in computers, everyone's a noob.
[17:05] <nonickforme> that's a ignorant thing to say
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[17:07] <at0m> just that the scope's so vastly huge
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[17:07] <nonickforme> at0m, the scope I'm speaking of is the Pi CPU
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[17:10] <at0m> nonickforme: maybe shiftplusone can direct you. not sure he's around now. weekdays mostly i think.
[17:11] <nonickforme> Right now I'm reading through https://github.com/brianwiddas/pi-baremetal
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[17:15] <nonickforme> at0m, this will sound completely insane
[17:15] <nonickforme> But I am porting a new kernel to the Pi
[17:15] <nonickforme> there has been a few failed attempts in the past
[17:16] <nonickforme> The issue is that it only targets x86
[17:16] <nonickforme> so this will be a big challenge to overcome.
[17:16] <at0m> and it has to go Arm
[17:18] <nonickforme> at0m, The good part: Not too heavily tied to x86.
[17:18] <nonickforme> There is a big boiler plate for x86 that can be replaced with a ARM one
[17:18] <nonickforme> the bad news, it's massive.
[17:18] <nonickforme> Extremely complex.
[17:18] <nonickforme> (The bloody kernel uses SDL and OpenGL without any video drivers!)
[17:18] <at0m> i can imagine
[17:19] <nonickforme> It's a act of voodoo black magic.
[17:19] <at0m> ehehe
[17:19] <nonickforme> the developer is amazing.
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[17:25] <nonickforme> My x server crashed
[17:26] <nonickforme> /yay/
[17:26] <nonickforme> (fuck you X11)
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[17:26] <nonickforme> Question for anyone here with experience with the Pi displays
[17:26] <nonickforme> The SPI ones.
[17:26] <nonickforme> Are they fast enough to be used with Emulators?
[17:26] <nonickforme> or playback video, etc
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[17:27] <nonickforme> or should I work on a dirty regions driver.
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[17:35] <nonickforme> McBride36,
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[17:35] <McBride36> nonickforme, sup
[17:35] <nonickforme> McBride36, Do you know anything about the RPi SPI displays?
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[17:36] <McBride36> wee bit, what's up
[17:36] <nonickforme> Do you know if they're any good for emulation?
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[17:36] <nonickforme> I know the pi can peak about 30mb/s over SPI
[17:36] <choki> Anyone with a 'pi 2 could test performance of `pqiv`?
[17:37] <nonickforme> eh I might aswell try and find a psp here in ontario
[17:37] <nonickforme> :/
[17:38] <McBride36> mhm
[17:38] <McBride36> should work
[17:38] <nonickforme> I wish they weren't discontinued.
[17:38] <McBride36> ebay?
[17:38] <nonickforme> I want to try and get a brand new one
[17:39] <nonickforme> so I'm going to scour walmarts.
[17:39] <nonickforme> They tend to carry outdated crap
[17:39] <McBride36> add the word 'new' to the ebay search?
[17:40] <nonickforme> no.
[17:40] <nonickforme> no...
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[18:01] <fred1807> can I change the layer hello video renders ?
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[18:08] <nonickforme> fred1807, wat
[18:08] <fred1807> frambuffer layer
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[18:26] <Berg> good morning virtual world
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[18:26] <Encrypt> Hi Be²
[18:26] <Encrypt> Berg, *
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[18:26] <Berg> :)
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[18:27] <fred1807> what really omxplayer --live option does?
[18:27] <fred1807> cant tell a difference
[18:28] <Berg> you was on that yesterday fred1807
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[18:28] <fred1807> nobody knows?
[18:28] <Berg> keep at it you will find answer
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[18:29] <Berg> trial and error fred1807
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[18:29] <fred1807> do you know ?
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[18:30] <groupers> Hi I use a raspi and some gstreamer app to stream live video from a gym to as concession stand directly outside the gym. after a while the stream will get further and further behind
[18:31] <groupers> both are hardwired. there is no noticeable freezing or anything like that on the raspi
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[18:32] <groupers> but after an hour or so it will be 30+ second behind. I unfortunately don't have the specifics right now but was hoping someone might have a suggestion for me so I had a starting point for troubleshooting
[18:32] <groupers> I can come back later with streaming protocols, video codecs, hardware make/model and software versions of course
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[18:33] <groupers> if rather solve the problem, even if it involves occasionally dropping a frame, rather than restart the stream
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[19:02] <Osirus126> hello all
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[19:08] <Osirus126> hello??
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[19:09] <Osirus126> is anyone there to talk to? im new to irc and dont know if you are getting my msgs
[19:09] <bortzmeyer> Osirus126: we do (receive)
[19:09] <Osirus126> ok thankyou
[19:09] <at0m> Osirus126: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/NetEtiquette#Rules_for_IRC
[19:10] <at0m> to get you going :p
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[19:14] <Berg> fred1807: no sorry i have no clue
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[19:19] <choki> Osirus126: message receiving... 99%
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[19:39] <Myrtti> my knitting machine - arduino - raspberry pi-combination is coming slowly together: http://imgur.com/RCTqG4k
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[19:47] <Berg> nice Myrtti
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[19:54] <Myrtti> the screen will take a lot of my current pain away, the screen/raspi combo is so much smaller than my 13" laptop, even if the laptop is small
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[20:19] <saraf> what are the options in terms of languages for building a media player to play encrypted video files with hardware acceleration? (javafx does not have the media component on arm, could use javascript - but, chromium does not have EME built in ... )
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[20:44] <fred1807> : anyone understand a little bit of HLS streaming? I can grab the .mp4 files analyzing the network... and sometimes guess the .m3u8 filename... But I wonder if I could have a proper method to find the .m3u8 file (So to play on omxplayer) , talking about public open streamings like this live surf event http://www.worldsurfleague.com/events/2015/mct/1281/hurley-pro-at-trestles
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[20:46] <Berg> you might have to hack adobe?
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[21:58] <Yrishh> I just installed Ubuntu mate on my Raspberry pi but i have no clue tbqh on, what to do with it can someone help?
[21:59] <nid0> what dyou want to do with it?
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[21:59] <Yrishh> programming mostly
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[22:00] <RegexNinja47> I've got a PiFace and I'd like to hook it up to an IR LED via LIRC, but LIRC asks for a "gpio_out_pin". My LED isn't connected directly to GPIO, its connected to the PiFace. What should I do?
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[22:00] <nicdev> I had installed kodi from http://archive.mene.za.net/raspbian but i read on http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_Kodi_on_Raspberry_Pi#Raspbian that I can get the latest from default repository. Is it possible to change the source and update without having to uninstall and install from default repository
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[22:03] <nicdev> I have version 14 and want to go to 15
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[22:05] <Yrishh> nicdev i think u need to uninstall it and install it from the default RPI repository to get the latest version
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[22:08] <Yrishh> RegexNinja47 i think u have to connect it directly to the GPIO, maby try that and see wat happens?
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[22:08] <nicdev> Yrishh: do you know if uninstall whether i will still have ~/.kodi/ and if after installation whether the new install will pick up the userdata in there?
[22:09] <at0m> nicdev: uninstalls do not touch home dirs
[22:10] <RegexNinja47> Yrishh Supposedly WiringPi sees the PiFace GPIO pins as pins 200-207
[22:10] <nicdev> at0m: good to know! thanks. let me try it out
[22:10] <RegexNinja47> So I'm going to try that
[22:10] <at0m> nicdev: when in doubt, just back it up somewhere
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[22:35] <nid0> Gadgetoid around?
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[22:55] <ovidiu-florin> hello world
[22:55] <Dingo_Bob> hi
[22:55] <Dingo_Bob> print ('hello world')
[22:55] <ovidiu-florin> can I also get support here for using the PiFace?
[22:56] <Dingo_Bob> i think so
[22:56] <nid0> you can ask
[22:56] <Yrishh> Asking never hurts :)
[22:57] <ovidiu-florin> I'm trying to use the PiFace with the examples from pifacecad, but the interrupts don't work
[22:57] <ovidiu-florin> I can read the switches individually, and I can put them in an infinite loop to check for them
[22:57] <ovidiu-florin> but the interrupts don't work
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[22:58] <ovidiu-florin> I've tried the examples gfrom here: http://pifacecad.readthedocs.org/en/latest/example.html
[22:58] <ovidiu-florin> nothing happens when I press the buttons
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[22:59] <Yrishh> hhmmm i wish i could help mate but i have no knowledge of PiFace sorry mate only thing i can suggest is did u set up everything right?, or maby redo them incase u forgot something
[23:00] <nath> morning all, I updated my pi from wheezy to jessie, since the it automaticly starts GUI, how can I prevent that?
[23:01] <ovidiu-florin> nath: run rasbi-config
[23:01] <ovidiu-florin> and disable it from there
[23:02] <nath> did I do anything wrong the changing wheezy to jessie in the "sources.list" and upgrading the whole system?
[23:02] <nath> *with changing
[23:04] <ovidiu-florin> the dist-upgrade should resolve the repos for you (for Debian at least, I'm not sure about Raspbian)
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[23:06] <nath> I know for debian, but on raspdian I dont know either...
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[23:08] <nath> well maybe it was a little stupid but I thought wheezy is old-stable by now....
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[23:09] <plugwash> it is, unfortunately the raspberry pi foundation have been rather slow in bringing their stuff forward to jessie despite me bugging them about it since the start of the Debian freeze
[23:09] <plugwash> hopefully in the next few weeks they should have it sorted.
[23:10] <plugwash> btw shiftplusone, any comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/raspbian/+bug/1493661
[23:10] <nath> plugwash: yea the system is f***** can not loggin via SSH anymore
[23:10] <nath> damn I screwed it :-(
[23:11] <nath> just saw on the official raspy page: raspdian based on debian wheezy
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[23:12] <nath> still wonder why it updated with "jessie" in the sources.list
[23:13] <Yrishh> Anyone know how to connect the raspberry pi to a laptop?
[23:15] <nath> plugwash: thx for the link! I did not seem to be the first having this issue
[23:15] <nath> Yrishh: with a LAN cable?
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[23:16] <nath> the problem ist I can not loggin via SSH anymore
[23:17] <at0m> nath: does the network even come up? can you ping it?
[23:18] <biberao> 22
[23:18] <nath> yea but only with its IP address
[23:18] <nath> 32 packets transmitted, 0 received, +30 errors, 100% packet loss, time 31167ms
[23:19] <nath> pipe 3
[23:19] <nath> :-/
[23:20] <nath> well I might just setup a new raspdian wheezy from scratch :-[[
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[23:22] <at0m> nath: i run testing on most my pi's, actually
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[23:23] <nath> at0m: that was where I wanted to go, but i felt a litle shy :-)
[23:23] <at0m> before such upgrades, SD's are small to back up :)
[23:24] <nath> good idea for the next time :-)
[23:24] <nath> so you have your raspy running on stretch?
[23:24] <at0m> yes, 3 of them
[23:24] <at0m> on squeeze actually
[23:24] <at0m> err stretch right
[23:25] <at0m> i use testing not the debian names in sources.list
[23:25] <ovidiu-florin> does anyone have an up to date Rasbian NOT installed from NOOBS?
[23:25] <nath> yea I was confusing those 2 names to
[23:25] <at0m> that's why i use 'testing' and 'stable'. just sid is... sid
[23:26] <ovidiu-florin> can you please tell me what "cat /etc/debian_version" and "uname -a" outputs?
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[23:26] <at0m> stretch/sid
[23:26] <nath> I mean my system seems broken anyway, I could start the hussle connect my screen mouse and keyboard and just put "testing" in the sources.list
[23:26] <at0m> Linux pi 3.18.6-v7i-aufs #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Feb 10 22:35:34 CET 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux
[23:26] <nath> only thing is it takes about a day :-PPPP
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[23:27] <Yrishh> Anyone know how to get all the free memory from my 16gb SD card its currently limited
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[23:27] <at0m> hm another is on 4.1: Linux pi 4.1.6-v7+ #810 SMP PREEMPT Tue Aug 18 15:32:12 BST 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux
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[23:28] <ovidiu-florin> what do you mean another?
[23:28] <at0m> ovidiu-florin: i got a couple pi's
[23:28] <nath> :-)
[23:28] <at0m> at gf's etc. in case i get homesick ;p
[23:28] <ovidiu-florin> the second one is a RP2?
[23:28] <at0m> my pi1 isn't running 24/7, it's down atm
[23:29] <at0m> these are rpi2 B's
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[23:29] <nath> ok thx for the support, I learned my lession ;-)
[23:29] <ovidiu-florin> I suspect there's a bug in the kernel on the current Raspbian and I want to narrow it down
[23:29] <ovidiu-florin> https://github.com/piface/pifacecad/issues/16
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[23:30] <ovidiu-florin> at0m: the first one is not up to date?
[23:30] <at0m> Yrishh: normally the installer lets you resize the partition to full size. not sure how you'd go about it afterwards. let me check
[23:30] <ovidiu-florin> or a different version of Raspbian?
[23:30] <at0m> ovidiu-florin: it isn't. and i run testing
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[23:31] <ovidiu-florin> Yrishh: use rasbi-config
[23:31] <at0m> raspi-config whats with the b's :)
[23:32] <at0m> or man resize2fs
[23:32] <at0m> ovidiu-florin: actually i updated that 3.18 pi, but i havent rebooted it
[23:33] <ovidiu-florin> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ reports a kernel version of 3.18
[23:33] <ovidiu-florin> so, I'm confused
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[23:36] <at0m> what kernel are you on?
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[23:41] <ovidiu-florin> Yrishh: rasbi-config is a command that you run from the command line
[23:41] <ovidiu-florin> please keep the conversation here
[23:42] <ovidiu-florin> at0m: $ uname -a
[23:42] <ovidiu-florin> Linux RP2 4.1.6-v7+ #810 SMP PREEMPT Tue Aug 18 15:32:12 BST 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux
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[23:42] <Yrishh> i will thankyou for the help i shall check it out
[23:42] <ovidiu-florin> Yrishh: however.. that's on the debian based distro
[23:42] <ovidiu-florin> I''m not sure in Ubuntu
[23:43] <at0m> raspi-config. like in pi.
[23:43] <Yrishh> yeah i tried it on ubuntu but it didnt work
[23:43] <ovidiu-florin> at0m is right
[23:43] <ovidiu-florin> it's raspi-config
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[23:44] <at0m> Yrishh: 'man resize2fs' then
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[23:45] <at0m> Yrishh: keep it in the channel, gives everyone a chance to reply
[23:46] <Yrishh> yeah i will :)
[23:47] <Yrishh> I'm gonna try to use gparted to resize my SD card
[23:47] <at0m> Yrishh: you don't have resize2fs?
[23:47] <Yrishh> no i haven't
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[23:48] <Yrishh> How do i get it?
[23:48] <at0m> apt install system-config-lvm
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[23:53] <Yrishh> I've installed and runned the system-config-lvm but nothing shows up in it
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[23:54] <at0m> you don't run that. you run resize2fs which is in the system-config-lvm package.
[23:54] <at0m> read the man first
[23:54] <at0m> Yrishh: 'man resize2fs'
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