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IRC Log for 2015-09-14

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[1:13] <willmore> Did something change in the manufacture of the model 2 B? I recently purchased two from Fry's in the USA (looks to be sourced from Element 14 via Velman).
[1:14] <willmore> They both smell like burnt electronics. So much that I though they might be broken/returned devices, but they work fine and the most recent one shows no sign of having ever been touched by a human hand.
[1:15] <willmore> But, that smell scares the heck out of me. I've never smelled that from something that wasn't completely fried. Like that 16F628 that I put in 180 degrees off which glowed a deep cherry red oh so very briefly.
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[1:17] <SpeedEvil> In principle, it can be just an odd production process
[1:17] <SpeedEvil> perhaps a different flux.
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[1:18] <willmore> SpeedEvil, could be. Just smells like burn epoxy.
[1:18] <willmore> burnt. Keyboard hates me.
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[1:20] <CoJaBo> willmore: I bet this glowed some awesome colors too: http://i.imgur.com/gBil4.jpg
[1:20] <[Saint]> really new (recently manufactured) multilayer PCBs smell like arse.
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[1:22] <[Saint]> You can tell they be like they do by how they do.
[1:22] <[Saint]> Mhm.
[1:22] * [Saint] nods
[1:22] <CoJaBo> wat
[1:22] <[Saint]> Neat!
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[1:23] <CoJaBo> If you look carefully at that pic, you can spot some unique popcorn form-factor ICs
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[1:25] <[Saint]> It's really interesting that the damage is almost exclusive to the ICs and the PCB looks relatively unscathed.
[1:25] <[Saint]> I've had a few dramatic burnouts like that, and usually they'll burn right through the PCB and drop right through.
[1:26] <[Saint]> That's...interesting.
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[1:26] <CoJaBo> There's a trace on the other side that's vaporized
[1:26] <[Saint]> Oh, I'll bet.
[1:26] <CoJaBo> The area the popcorn chip popped off of tho, looks cleanly desoldered. No visible burns
[1:26] <[Saint]> What /was/ that, out of interest.
[1:27] <CoJaBo> Lightning strike, apperently
[1:27] <[Saint]> No, the board.
[1:27] <[Saint]> (sorry)
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[1:27] <[Saint]> I should have been more specific. Apologies.
[1:27] <CoJaBo> The USB/SATA interface board out of a dead drive enclosure
[1:27] <CoJaBo> The drive was completely unscathed somehow
[1:27] <[Saint]> I....what!?!
[1:28] <[Saint]> How did it even get that far?
[1:28] <CoJaBo> ?
[1:28] <[Saint]> That makes little sense and is more than a little bit scary.
[1:28] <CoJaBo> how?
[1:28] <[Saint]> It should've pretty much been stopped in its tracks by either the network card or the PSU.
[1:28] <[Saint]> Managing to make it through the system as far as the disk controller is...weird.
[1:28] <CoJaBo> External drive
[1:29] <happygilmoregent> does pi have expandable memory?
[1:29] <willmore> CoJaBo, "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly, Roy."
[1:29] <happygilmoregent> or is it dependent on swap
[1:29] <CoJaBo> happygilmoregent: Possibly, if you have a reflow oven
[1:29] <CoJaBo> They're only a few million bucks
[1:30] <CoJaBo> (but practically, no, it's soldered to either the board or the SoC (!!))
[1:30] <[Saint]> I got one for under 200.
[1:30] <happygilmoregent> you can't connect it to an accessory board that has extra memory slots
[1:30] <[Saint]> *$200
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[1:31] <[Saint]> CoJaBo: ahhh...I see. Actively powered external drive I would guess?
[1:31] <willmore> happygilmoregent, they're trying to say that there is no practical way to change the amount of memory a pi has.
[1:31] <[Saint]> (as opposed to passive)
[1:31] <happygilmoregent> ok
[1:31] <CoJaBo> [Saint]: Yes; I pitched the power supply before I opened the enclosure and saw the carnage; so I have no clue what the power brick looked like
[1:31] <willmore> Looks like it took a bullet for you, CoJaBo.
[1:31] <[Saint]> happygilmoregent: even if you could de-layer the SoC, the pi can't address more than 1GB anyway.
[1:31] <CoJaBo> [Saint]: It was plugged into a Mac, which was also unharmed. A microwave in the other room was also roasted.
[1:32] <happygilmoregent> oh ok
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[1:32] <willmore> happygilmoregent, there are other SMCs that have more memory if you're not wed to the rpi world.
[1:32] <willmore> Err, SBC, sorry.
[1:32] <[Saint]> And, honestly, a lot of them are better in many regards.
[1:33] <[Saint]> ODROID has some great offerings.
[1:33] <willmore> I was going to mention them.
[1:33] <[Saint]> The raspi is pretty much just the one everyone has heard of.
[1:33] <willmore> The folk over at #odroid are very friendly and helpful--unless you're a jerk to them, then they are not very friendly.
[1:33] <CoJaBo> lol
[1:33] <[Saint]> It is great at what is it, an essentially disposable educational tool.
[1:33] <willmore> Yep.
[1:33] <willmore> Rocks at that.
[1:34] <CoJaBo> Also, a killer media center =D
[1:34] <[Saint]> IFF you get an external DAC.
[1:34] <CoJaBo> I got a bunch more B2's for $30/each
[1:34] <[Saint]> EVen the "better" sound on the pi2 is far from non-suck.
[1:34] <[Saint]> But I'm a bit anal about audio.
[1:35] <[Saint]> The biggest glaring hole in the raspi to me is lack of gigE though.
[1:35] <SpeedEvil> The pi is too large if you're doing that with it. And spiky
[1:35] <[Saint]> SpeedEvil: ...I'll take that as a challenge!
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[1:36] <CoJaBo> [Saint]: It's actually better than my laptop audio lol
[1:36] <SpeedEvil> Lack of GigE, lack of 2 USB ports, lack of proper driver for the CSI/DSI ports.
[1:36] <willmore> I'd use HDMI out to my receiver which does audio *just fine*.
[1:36] <CoJaBo> My receiver doesn't have HDMI :/
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[1:37] <willmore> Ahh. My old one didn't, but it did have digital inputs via optical and RCA.
[1:37] <CoJaBo> I've thought about getting a splitter, but they were either too expensive or didn't have the needed ports last I looked
[1:37] <CoJaBo> Mine has 3 optical and 1 coax
[1:37] <[Saint]> CoJaBo: have a look at IQaudIO's DACAPMP+ boards.
[1:37] <[Saint]> Or, any of their external DACs.
[1:38] <willmore> I quit using it because the rotary encoder on the volume went flakey and I couldn't fix it.
[1:38] <willmore> Also, the new one does 9.1 vs the 5.1 it did.
[1:38] <CoJaBo> I'd want something that split the HDMI, so I can use it with stuff other than the pi
[1:38] <willmore> 9.1 is very fun.
[1:38] <[Saint]> I mention IQaudIO over, say, Wolfson or HiFiBerry because the IQaudIO boards actually have a dedicated lineout.
[1:38] <[Saint]> A lot of people seem to have forgotten the value and benefits of a line level output on a DAC.
[1:38] <[Saint]> Which...sucks.
[1:38] <willmore> Most of the DAC boards I have seen have gone off the deep end into audiphile 'woo'.
[1:39] <[Saint]> But thatnkfull ythere's some sanity in the market.
[1:39] <CoJaBo> Is there a decent HDMI splitter?
[1:39] <[Saint]> willmore: you and I must have a different definition of 'audiophile' if that's your belief. I'm not questioning your belief, but, it doesn't gel with mine.
[1:39] <willmore> Just give me a little board with an optical and RCA S/PDIF output. :)
[1:39] <willmore> Keep your stinking DAC. :P
[1:40] <[Saint]> I have not seen a single raspi based DAC that offers anything that isn't entirely sane.
[1:40] <[Saint]> But I have different standards I guess.
[1:40] <CoJaBo> Yeh, I wouldn't spend a dime on a DAC :P
[1:40] <willmore> Anything for playback > 48K@16bits is silly.
[1:40] <CoJaBo> My sound system has digital inputs, so analog is silly :P
[1:40] <willmore> Yep.
[1:41] <willmore> Analog outputs are for speakers or headphones.
[1:41] <[Saint]> That's not entirely true...but, it's not really a discussion I care to get into.
[1:41] <[Saint]> The only thing I'll agree with is the bit depth.
[1:41] <CoJaBo> Hm, down to $30 now http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Premium-Extractor-Converter-VHD-H2HSAs/dp/B00KBHX072
[1:41] <[Saint]> And technically speaking anything more than 14.9 bits is entirely redundant.
[1:41] <willmore> I'm with Monty: https://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
[1:41] <[Saint]> the full human audio spectrum can be reproduced with complete accuracy in 14.9 bits.
[1:42] <willmore> More bit depth for recording is okay, and for mastering. But, for playback? Silly.
[1:42] <[Saint]> The real reason you want an external DAC with a dedicated master clock is that using the pi as the master clock for audio means you set yourself up for a couple dozen to several hundred ms of jitter.
[1:43] <willmore> I want 192K@24bit for recording, but then again, I'm not going to do audio work with it--I'm going to sample the I and Q channels of a radio. More bandwidth!
[1:43] <[Saint]> then you get erratic pitch shifting, blah blah blash...
[1:43] <willmore> I'll give you clocking issues.
[1:43] <willmore> jitter is bad.
[1:43] <SpeedEvil> [Saint]: that is really questionable for linear, unless you're chopping off one end of the perceptual range
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[1:44] <SpeedEvil> [Saint]: For basically all content, I'd agree
[1:44] <willmore> SpeedEvil, even for linear. See the link I posted.
[1:44] <[Saint]> Unless the content has _extremely_ high dynamic range, 14.9 bits should be perfectly fine for complete reproduction of the audio spectrum an average human is capable of perceiving.
[1:45] <willmore> Now, for capturing the signal, more bits can be helpful so that you don't fall off the bottom or clip off the top, and for processing it's helpful so that you can't overflow or underfulow.
[1:45] <willmore> But, for distribution? 16 bits is plenty.
[1:45] <[Saint]> willmore: ...I think I love you.
[1:45] <willmore> I'm not sure how to break that to my wife.
[1:45] <[Saint]> You're the only person I have talked to outside my hobbyist audio communities that understands this.
[1:46] * willmore is a computer engineer and a radio amateur.
[1:46] <willmore> I get sampling theory.
[1:46] <[Saint]> sadly, those two things don't necessarily go hand in hand. :)
[1:46] <willmore> If I ever got a tatoo, it'd either be about my kids or "f/2"
[1:47] <[Saint]> I know plenty of engineers who will happily worship at the alter of audiophile wankery.
[1:47] <willmore> Nope, they don't. It puts me in a very good position for certain types of design. :)
[1:47] <SpeedEvil> Hmm
[1:47] <willmore> I've always wanted to do DSP, but they always give that to the EEs. And they write the most horrible code...
[1:47] * SpeedEvil forgot about Dither.
[1:47] <willmore> See? ;)
[1:47] <[Saint]> The real issue is when it comes down to it, there's no way to really explain it to someone who doesn't understand this without going into a lengthy discussion on sampling theory.
[1:48] <willmore> Dither is one of those things that can really mess with your head. "But, but, but, but..... oh....."
[1:48] <[Saint]> and just saying "no, you're wrong, 'cos sample theory" doesn't wash with them, and, I understand why.
[1:48] <willmore> Yep.
[1:48] <[Saint]> But when or if you try to go in depth, you just leave them standing at the starting gate while you've already completed two laps.
[1:49] <willmore> Once you do get them up to speed on sampling, twist the knife with super-Nyquist sampling. :)
[1:49] <[Saint]> "Nuhuuuuuh! But...but...the numbers are bigger!"
[1:49] <[Saint]> And bigger numbers are always better, right?
[1:50] <willmore> RF knowledgable EEs can be made to understand super-Nyquist sampling if you exaplain that it's sort of a mixer. They they go "oh!"
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[1:50] <willmore> f/2 only tells how much bandwidth you can uniquely encode. It doesn't say where in the spectra that bandwidth must come. Mua ha ha!
[1:51] <[Saint]> The thing that amuses the absolute crap out of me is the number of people who have absolutely no idea that their media playback devices are almst always downsampling everything to 44.1@16
[1:51] <willmore> Shhhh....
[1:51] <[Saint]> ..../maybe/ if you're lucky, and with third party firmware (like Rockbox!), you'll get 48@16
[1:51] <willmore> Want a Pono player?
[1:51] <[Saint]> I actually have one. Hahaha.
[1:51] <[Saint]> I run Rockbox on it.
[1:52] <[Saint]> (for the lulz)
[1:52] <willmore> I think you'll find that the industry has quietly gone over to 48x16.
[1:52] <willmore> LOL.
[1:52] <[Saint]> I found out that behind the scenes in a Pono is a highly crippled Android Gingerbread OS.
[1:52] <willmore> The music on my phone is encoded with Opus at ~80kb/s. Why not, it's got this tinny little speaker on it....
[1:52] <[Saint]> Running RAAA on it seemed more than appropriate to kick Neil in his audiophile ballsack.
[1:53] <willmore> Really? That's funny.
[1:53] * willmore highfives [Saint]
[1:53] <[Saint]> Neil Young is up there with Patrick82 for audiophile insanity.
[1:54] <[Saint]> This is Patrick's site. I assure you, this is not a troll. He is 100% serious.
[1:54] <[Saint]> http://www.coconut-audio.com/
[1:54] <[Saint]> He's been banned from every audio entusiast site I have ever frequented, several times over.
[1:54] <willmore> Is that the silly cable guy?
[1:55] <[Saint]> Hahahaha, yes, you know it. :)
[1:55] <willmore> I think you posted that a while back--the last time we had this discussion.
[1:55] <[Saint]> AH. Quite probably.
[1:55] <willmore> I clicked. I'm not doing that again.
[1:55] <willmore> SpeedEvil, you on board?
[1:56] <SpeedEvil> What?
[1:56] * SpeedEvil stopped reading after last comment
[1:56] <SpeedEvil> 24 bit is clearly ridiculous
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[1:56] <SpeedEvil> (for users)
[1:57] <willmore> For playback--for everyone. At least for audio.
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[1:57] <[Saint]> I honestly think that anything higher than 48/16 is entirely useless to the vast majority of end users.
[1:57] <[Saint]> For playback, and recording.
[1:58] * SpeedEvil wants a 128 channel mic at 256khz/16 bit.
[1:58] <SpeedEvil> But - that's because I'm wondering silly things about bats.
[1:59] <willmore> Good point.
[1:59] <[Saint]> LAME has come so far these days that there is absolutely no evidence, like, none, period, that anyone can determine the difference between LAME VBR256 and $insert_lossless_codec_here
[1:59] <willmore> I amend "for everyone" to be "for humans".
[1:59] <willmore> I'd agree.
[2:00] <willmore> The only time >16 bits is useful is for studio (or other technical application) work with very good equipment. Not for ones cell phone.
[2:00] <SpeedEvil> [Saint]: for normal input content
[2:00] <[Saint]> There's zero evidence to support the "golden ear" theory. Every test ever has concluded that there is exactly the same probability of getting the same answers as a "golden ear" audiophile with true random distribution guessing.
[2:00] <SpeedEvil> [Saint]: I have a 'bat out of hell II' CD that has 'leap out of the speakers' arrtifacts at under 320K or so
[2:00] <SpeedEvil> [Saint]: it's got wierd 70s stereo effects
[2:01] <[Saint]> SpeedEvil: on older LAME implementations, I would agree...and it is possible to pick tracks that show off the flaws in LAME encoding, but, you can only pick up on that if you KNOW what artefacts you're looking for ahead of time.
[2:01] <willmore> SpeedEvil, might tickle some odd Mid-side encoding/detection issue in lame.
[2:01] <[Saint]> FOr "Joe Normal", VBR256 and lossless may as well be the same thing.
[2:01] <SpeedEvil> I should try it more recently, this was a fairly early version.
[2:02] <SpeedEvil> And to be fair, putting wierd effects on content can pretty much amount to pessimising it.
[2:02] <[Saint]> willmore: even then I would say that is relatively a thing of the past. Studios these days don't seem to care a single bit about pushing up the gain on _everything_, even if there is obvious clipping at high ends.
[2:02] <[Saint]> Look at...ummm....Coldplay, for a classic example.
[2:03] <[Saint]> Every album of theirs is _terribly_ mastered "loudness wars" crap.
[2:03] <SpeedEvil> The inventor of the multiband compressor should be shot.
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[2:05] <SpeedEvil> Imagine how awesome it would be if the audio compression could be done on the device-end
[2:05] <SpeedEvil> If you needed it
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[2:07] <teamtuck> Can anyone help with running a daemon on bootup under a specific user context?
[2:07] <willmore> There are kinds of 'music' which seem like little but distortion. But that's none of my business. ;)
[2:08] <willmore> teamtuck, which daemon?
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[2:08] <teamtuck> willmore: Deluge
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[2:08] <teamtuck> I have it running on bootup now, but it's running as root and not my user account
[2:09] <willmore> So, you have the scripts to start it at boot working?
[2:10] <teamtuck> I made a script under /etc/init.d and added it to update-rc.d
[2:10] <teamtuck> when I go to Deluge, I notice that everything is pointing to it being ran by root
[2:11] <teamtuck> should i just add the commands to run under /etc/rc.local
[2:11] <teamtuck> ?
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[2:12] <willmore> teamtuck, I would take a look at the script for 'ntp' and copy from there. It runs the ntpd daemon as user ntp.
[2:13] <teamtuck> willmore: the script for ntp? under /etc/init.d?
[2:13] <willmore> teamtuck, /etc/init.d/ntp
[2:13] <willmore> Yep.
[2:14] <teamtuck> Awesome, I'll check it out. Thanks.
[2:14] <willmore> You'll find a lot of scripts that work the same way, but ntp is on almost every system, so it's a reliable example.
[2:14] <willmore> You're welcome. Help the next person when you can. :)
[2:15] <teamtuck> will do!
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[4:20] <Vialas> Hello Everyone
[4:20] <Vialas> how are we all?
[4:22] <clonak> bored, yourself ?
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[4:32] <Vialas> oh not bored clemensv
[4:32] <Vialas> doh!
[4:32] <Vialas> clonak*
[4:32] <Vialas> why are you board?
[4:32] <Vialas> bored*
[4:32] <Vialas> wow im not typing so well today :P
[4:33] <clonak> because Im at work ? lol
[4:33] <[Saint]> He's bored 'cos all he's got for company is you. :p
[4:33] <clonak> extremely busy morning to a dead quite afternoon,
[4:33] <Vialas> lol thats mean saint
[4:34] <Vialas> ahh well yo uwant to do my work for me instead? lol
[4:34] <[Saint]> clonak: http://thewatchseries.to/serie/rick_and_morty
[4:34] <[Saint]> problem solved.
[4:34] <clonak> as long as I dont have to make myslef look busy underneith a camera, Ill do anything at this stage.
[4:35] <[Saint]> assuming it's not blocked by asshat IT guys, go nuts, cartoons beckon.
[4:35] <[Saint]> and Rick and Morty is just outright great.
[4:36] <clonak> its not blocked, I just dont have speakers. :/
[4:36] <clonak> and they do constantly harp on about internet usage being too high,
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[4:42] <Vialas> lol
[4:42] <Vialas> well you could always work on your Pi!!!
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[4:54] <cr5315> Can I route wifi from my laptop to my pi?
[4:54] <cr5315> And then ssh into the pi from the laptop?
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[4:54] <Vialas> haha nice nice
[4:55] <Vialas> what do you mean by route wifi?
[4:55] <cr5315> My laptop is connected to wifi, and I don't have a wifi dongle for the pi
[4:56] <cr5315> Can I connect the pi via ethernet to my laptop and "tether" the laptops internet to the pi?
[4:57] <willmore> cr5315, probably, but it would depend on your skill with controlling the networking on your laptop.
[4:57] <exonormal> you can hook pi to laptop and it will work that way
[4:58] <willmore> What you could do it just hook them together and just use the laptop<>pi link directly. You would need to serve the PI an IP address via DHCP unless you have configured it with a static IP.
[4:59] <willmore> That wouldn't get the pi access through the laptop to the internet.
[5:00] <Vialas> from my understadning, in order to connect two devices directly via ethernet cable without a router / switch you will need the ethernet cable to be a "cross over cable"
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[5:01] <Vialas> (not sure if modern computers can auto flip the connections but last i looked they could not)
[5:02] <willmore> Vialas, auto-MDX has been in most every ethernet port for years. No special cable needed these days.
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[5:02] <willmore> But, yeah, I remember those days.
[5:02] <willmore> I do not miss them, though.
[5:03] <Vialas> cool willmore , nice stuff
[5:03] <Vialas> haha i just havent needed to do that since those days :P
[5:03] <Vialas> i have 1 router, 3 switches and 1 wifi booster in my hosue
[5:03] <Vialas> haha
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[5:04] * willmore has a 24 port switch in the basement, three access points around the house, and two more supplimentary switches here and there.
[5:04] <willmore> Need more WiFi spectra. 802.11ac is good. Very good.
[5:06] <cr5315> I don't have access to the router/modem, if that changes anything
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[5:08] <cr5315> I also don't have a screen I can plug the Pi into
[5:12] <Vialas> nice stuff willmore 24 port swithc thats the real deal :D
[5:12] <Vialas> cisco?
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[5:13] <Vialas> cr5315, you dont have a tv?
[5:13] <cr5315> Nope
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[5:13] <cr5315> Just my laptop and a VGA only monitor
[5:13] <cr5315> And I got a Pi 2 the other day
[5:13] <Vialas> hmm ok. so you could get a HDMI to VGA converter
[5:13] <cr5315> I had no idea that was a thing
[5:13] <Vialas> will need to have a screen just to set the pi up.. quite difficult to start it up headless
[5:14] <cr5315> I suppose I should have figured
[5:14] <cr5315> [Saint] helped me do a headless setup the other day
[5:14] <Vialas> http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters%C2%AE-Active-Female-Adapter/dp/B008O7RH5C
[5:14] <Vialas> oh great
[5:14] <Vialas> i mean you can do it - its just quite a bit extra work
[5:14] <cr5315> Yeah
[5:14] <Vialas> so its set up, you just need to connect it to your network.... through your laptop
[5:15] <Vialas> right... well you should be good to go as willmore stated above
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[6:21] <gorroth> Kernel[Linux grim-pi-tv 4.1.6+] CPU[700 MHz] MemFree(M)[391/434] DiskFree(G)[8/14] Uptime[0 days 8 hours 35 minutes] Users[2] LoadAvg[0.00]
[6:21] <gorroth> there, now my script properly determines MHz on the raspberry pi again :-)
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[11:09] <ant_thomas> I'm looking to use gstreamer to make a timelapse video from a series of jpgs using the hw encoder. Does anyone know if it's possible to pass a list of files to it? rather than using the "location=files%04d.jpeg" format?
[11:10] <ant_thomas> The reason being is that I'm taking photos over night, 10pm to 7am which are date formatted. I don't want to copy/move and rename the files. I want to generate the timelapse from the existing files as they are
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[12:11] <tr0p> hi, can anyone tell me if the raspberry pi 2 still has a USB hot swap protection chip? :S
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[12:15] <gordonDrogon> same a Pi B+
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[12:23] <ant_thomas> Does anyone know if gst-launch can accept symlinked files through "multifilesrc"?
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[12:27] <vegetablesalad19> Hello, do I need to tur on 5V power pin, or is it on by default ?
[12:29] <Berg> vegetablesalad19: its on
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[12:37] <tr0p> gordonDrogon: Thank you. I saw that the RPi B+ ones was specified for voltage ranges of up to 5.2V (and strangely has an absolute maximum rating of 6.5V) but it has an overvoltage protection. I want to drive my Pi with a 5.4V PSU and as far as I have seen there shouldn't be any Problem with the Voltage regulators' input ranges... Oh just to make sure, the B+'s hot swap protector was a "AP2331", wasn't it? (My Pi's IC "U9" has only cryptic mark
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[13:25] <yaronr> can anyone tell me how kodi gets started on raspbian ? I would like to change the user
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[13:35] <yaronr> found it
[13:35] <yaronr> Why do some of the functions in Kodi not work under user 'kodi' ? jsut curious
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[14:30] <knob> Good morning!
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[14:30] <knob> Quiet in here.
[14:35] <Myrtti> it happens
[14:37] <altos> Quick question guys: is it possible to connect the raspberry pi to 4 different monitors via USB? Each monitor should display a different video file, any ideas?
[14:37] <ShorTie> i'd say no
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[14:41] <altos> ShorTie: okay, any other guess? Video output isn't an option I guess (FHD)
[14:42] <pksato> altos: possibly, yes. Viable, may be. Need a usb vga video card adapter.
[14:42] <altos> You mean USB to VGA?
[14:43] <altos> As I said … it has to be 4x 1920x1080
[14:43] <altos> and one raspberry would not be enough
[14:44] <pksato> or, hdmi image spliter (not signal spliter).
[14:44] <altos> wouldn't it display the same thing to all monitors?
[14:45] <at0m> how do you plan to push 4 HD streams over a usb?
[14:45] <pksato> yes, and no.
[14:45] <altos> why stream? just opening the video file
[14:45] <altos> well
[14:45] <willmore> The rpi doesn't have enough CPU to generate that much video. All of the USB video adapters expect the host to generate the image and then recompress it in the funny method the adapter needs.
[14:45] <pksato> need some magic to compose a image pro 4 different source.
[14:46] <willmore> If they were just text display or mostly static images, it might be possible.
[14:46] <at0m> get four pi's. probably cheaper than usb2hdmi, too.
[14:46] <willmore> But you'll run into the problem that most of the adapters come with a binary blob that only works on x86.
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[14:46] * willmore agrees with at0m.
[14:46] <altos> well, the last option would be a PC with an AMD graphic card with 4 different outputs
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[14:47] <altos> <willmore> If they were just text display or mostly static images, it might be possible. <- they it's static
[14:47] <altos> yes
[14:47] <at0m> static "video file"?
[14:47] <altos> I made the static picture to a video file because it's easier to show via USB
[14:47] <pksato> 4 pi is more cheap.
[14:48] <pksato> or two
[14:48] <pksato> if is B+ and Gert's VGA666
[14:48] <pksato> you have two display per RPi.
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[14:49] <pksato> but, I not know if is capable to display different image.
[14:50] <altos> so I have 4 different pictures, I could also display it within a webserver and just stream it to the different monitors with wifi?
[14:50] <at0m> https://www.elektormagazine.com/news/RPi-VGA666
[14:50] <altos> same with gifs and video
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[14:51] <altos> would that option be possible?
[14:52] <altos> if so, how do I stream different pages to a monitor?
[14:52] <pksato> altos: yes, just need a app to do.
[14:52] <altos> wait
[14:52] <altos> no need for streaming
[14:52] <altos> those monitors have internet (actually they are TV's)
[14:53] <altos> just open the page lo
[14:53] <altos> lol
[14:53] <altos> problem would be if it goes to sleep mode
[14:54] <pksato> if need to use a web browser, open each on one of X11 display or screen.
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[14:55] <pksato> and, have lots of signage projects with RPi.
[14:55] <pksato> http://elinux.org/RPi_Projects/Digital_Signage
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[15:40] <giita> anyone here use the pitft
[15:40] <giita> wondered if anyones tried a window manager like i3 or awesome with it
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[15:48] <KDDLB> D:
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[15:57] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[15:59] <Tenkawa> brb
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[16:00] <Tenkawa> better
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[17:29] <e2k> Hiya, has anyone stumbled upon the smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0 eth0: hardware isn't capable of remote wakeup error? Suddenly I keep getting these, and they interfere with my wired connection (can't form it with netctl in arch) :O
[17:30] <e2k> I've tried different power supplies but without any results
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[17:40] <vibhavp> Does anyone know what drivers do I need to install after installing raspbian-netinst?
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[17:40] <djazz> vibhavp: drivers for what?
[17:40] <djazz> i havent used that one
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[17:40] <vibhavp> djazz: for the USB ethernet, IIRC
[17:41] <djazz> hm
[17:41] <vibhavp> the netinst install only comes with a bare debian system
[17:41] <vibhavp> I was able to install raspi-config and raspi-copies-and-fills
[17:42] <vibhavp> but I don't remember the name of other packages
[17:42] <djazz> so in "ip a" its not there?
[17:42] <vibhavp> djazz: no no, it can connect to ethernet
[17:43] <vibhavp> But it's pretty slow, presumably because of the missing drivers
[17:43] <djazz> oh idk
[17:44] <djazz> looking at my lsmod doesnt reveal much
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[17:45] <djazz> vibhavp: 0424:ec00 Standard Microsystems Corp. SMSC9512/9514 Fast Ethernet Adapter
[17:45] <djazz> lsusb
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[17:47] <vibhavp> djazz: oh, it was the router at fault
[17:47] <vibhavp> thanks, anyways
[17:47] <djazz> okay :)
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[17:52] <teclo-> hi, for a Raspberry Pi 2, what desktop environment should I use ?
[17:54] <djazz> lxde is the default
[17:54] <djazz> xfce works great
[17:54] <djazz> i installed i3 (a tiling wm) yesterday, which also works great
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[18:06] <teclo-> what about fluxbox ? Is it good on a Raspberry Pi 2 ?
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[18:07] <djazz> teclo-: yeah, sure
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[19:03] <jancoow> hi
[19:03] <jancoow> good evening
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[19:13] <nid0> ello
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[19:14] <jancoow> i wanna controll a ESC with a raspberry pi
[19:14] <jancoow> could someone help me with that
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[19:18] <k0mp0> a simple actuator would do the trick
[19:18] <k0mp0> hovering over the ESC key
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[19:21] <jancoow> well its a ESC for a aircraft motor (3-phase motor)
[19:21] <jancoow> so it should be controlled with pwm
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[19:27] <k0mp0> ah you're on your own there mate
[19:27] <k0mp0> i'm only good with actuators and keyboards
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[19:31] <jancoow> haha
[19:31] <jancoow> im trying to build a quadcopter with a pi :))
[19:31] <jancoow> and it looks awesome ;p
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[19:32] <k0mp0> that'd be pretty damn cool
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[19:32] <k0mp0> stick airodump on it
[19:33] <knob> jancoow, what have you tried?
[19:34] <knob> Interested in this. I want to do a little boat, with ESC motors (two), controlled via rPi. Obviously, the speed at which I control my vehicle doesn't need to be anywhere as fast as yours.
[19:34] <knob> What ESC are you using?
[19:34] <knob> jancoow,
[19:34] <jancoow> well
[19:34] <jancoow> im going to try now haha]
[19:34] <jancoow> i think ground - 5v - pwm signal
[19:35] <jancoow> lets see if it accepts 3.3 volt pwm signal
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[19:35] <jancoow> i'm using 30A opta Ztw spider
[19:35] <jancoow> http://www.banggood.com/ZTW-Spider-Series-30A-OPTO-Brushless-Speed-Control-ECS-p-85722.html
[19:35] <jancoow> its for brushless (3-fase) motors
[19:36] <jancoow> (just normal aircraft motors)
[19:37] <jancoow> my external pwm through i2c didnt receive yet, but lets try if the build in pwm chip of the rpi is good enoufh for testing :D
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[19:41] <uriah> hmm...
[19:41] <uriah> jancoow: did you know about i2c-compatible ESC's?
[19:41] <uriah> like the afro-esc's at hobbyking
[19:41] <jancoow> nope :((
[19:41] <uriah> :(
[19:41] <jancoow> didn't know they exist
[19:41] <uriah> they're around the sam price
[19:41] <uriah> same*
[19:41] <jancoow> oh
[19:42] <jancoow> yeah then its a little bit stupid right now, i2c -> pwm controller -> ESC
[19:42] <jancoow> while it could be i2c -> ESC
[19:42] <uriah> might cause a bit of latency in the controls, yeah
[19:42] <jancoow> do you think?
[19:42] <uriah> however, it might be the same
[19:43] <uriah> because the afro esc's probably have an i2c->pwm controller on the board
[19:43] <uriah> dunno
[19:43] <jancoow> well i hope it is enoufh to hold the quadcopter in the air haha
[19:43] <uriah> heheheh
[19:43] <uriah> we shall see :)
[19:43] <jancoow> yeah its all new for me
[19:44] <jancoow> just a learning project
[19:44] <uriah> i've never built a quadcopter either, i've been very interested in building a drone for a while though
[19:44] <jancoow> me too, and then i though "lets order the parts" ;p
[19:44] <uriah> :)
[19:45] <uriah> i don't have the luxury of being able to order parts, unfortunately
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[19:45] <uriah> too poor
[19:45] <uriah> :(
[19:45] <jancoow> the rpi a+ is awesome for this one
[19:45] <jancoow> awh :(
[19:45] <uriah> yes, it is!
[19:45] <uriah> anyway, i've got another project in the works involving 2 pi's and a ton of equipment
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[19:45] <jancoow> well, the price i payed was 200 euro for: 4x motor, frame, 4x esc, 3000mah lipo battery + balanced charger
[19:46] <uriah> including homemade solenoids :)
[19:46] <jancoow> gps, acc. meter, gyroscoop
[19:46] <jancoow> nice!!!
[19:46] <uriah> hmm, 3000mah?
[19:46] <uriah> are you sure that's going to be enough to keep it flying for a while?
[19:46] <jancoow> 11.1 volt
[19:46] <jancoow> 3 cells
[19:46] <jancoow> should be 15 to 20 minutes i think?
[19:46] <uriah> i'm just worried that the batt will drain quickly, depending on the current draw of the motors
[19:47] <uriah> hmm, ok :) if that's enough time for you to have your fun with it, then it's ok :P
[19:47] <uriah> smaller batt = lighter
[19:47] <uriah> after all
[19:47] <jancoow> yeah well, the copter is now around the 1000 gram so if i do a heavier battery the weight is more so idk if i have more flighttime then
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[19:48] <uriah> yeah
[19:48] <uriah> indeed
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[19:48] <uriah> jancoow: what are you planning on using to control it? wifi? also, to power the pi... do you have a voltage regulator?
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[19:49] <jancoow> i didnt think about the controlls yet. It will be a first step to "just" let it fly and i think that's already some work. For now i want to controll it indeed with wifi
[19:49] <jancoow> and yes i have a 6-12 volt TO 5v voltage regulator
[19:50] <uriah> ok cool
[19:50] <jancoow> (just a simple car charger for mobile phones ;p)
[19:50] <uriah> i have a 7V to 40V voltage regulator for my project lol
[19:50] <uriah> a bit overkill, i know
[19:50] <jancoow> oh lol
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[19:50] <uriah> i mean 7v-40v -> 5v
[19:50] <jancoow> yeah i understood that haha
[19:50] <uriah> heh k
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[19:50] <jancoow> that's a big range
[19:50] <uriah> yeah
[19:51] <uriah> it's an efficient regulator too
[19:51] <jancoow> which one is it?
[19:51] <uriah> it's the one from a tutorial in one of the earlier magpi's
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[19:52] <jancoow> oh, no idea which one haha
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[19:52] <jancoow> where are u from?
[19:52] <uriah> canada
[19:52] <jancoow> nice
[19:52] <uriah> you?
[19:52] <jancoow> netherlands
[19:53] <uriah> nice
[19:53] <uriah> https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi-issues/MagPi06.pdf
[19:53] <uriah> page 8
[19:53] <uriah> you'll have to source all the parts, but still... quite nice :)
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[19:54] <uriah> i mean, i have most of the parts sourced from newark, but one of them they don't sell anymore
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[20:10] <jancoow> oh thats really cool
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[20:21] <jancoow> what could be the max range with wifi do you think
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[20:21] <jancoow> 30 meters?
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[20:30] <uriah> jancoow: something like that :-/
[20:30] <uriah> jancoow: i was planning on building a drone with LTE capabilities honestly, so there would be longer range
[20:30] <uriah> there are relatively inexpensive unlocked USB LTE dongles on ebay
[20:31] <uriah> i got mine for ~$20
[20:31] <uriah> however, i haven't been able to find that good a price in a while
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[20:31] <jancoow> oh that's really cool
[20:31] <jancoow> but i think thats way to much latency
[20:31] <uriah> and you need to be careful when you buy one, because they don't all have the same band/frequency support
[20:31] <jancoow> and it ask a lot of data for video stream :P
[20:31] <uriah> nah it's not much latency
[20:31] <uriah> well not the way i was gonna do it
[20:32] <uriah> i was going to plot courses for the drone before letting it fly
[20:32] <uriah> then it would follow the plotted course, and sto
[20:32] <uriah> stop*
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[20:51] <torpor> hi
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[20:51] <torpor> i just got my official display and rpi2 set up .. but i don't yet have a bootable micro-sd card. will i see anything if i turn on my rpi2 and display anyway? or do i absolutely need an sd card in order to get anything on the screen? i just want to see if the display works..
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[20:52] <Svardskampe> oi, I need to ID to this server before joining this channel
[20:53] <Svardskampe> someone knows how to do that automatically in hexchat?
[20:53] <Svardskampe> I just have this channel set to autojoin and my password set for this server
[20:53] <Svardskampe> but somehow Im not IDed yet when wanting to connect to this channel
[20:54] <ppq> Svardskampe, use SASL
[20:54] <ppq> hexchat supports that ootb
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[20:54] <jancoow> torpor: well, test it out. It should be white i think (backlight should be turned on)
[20:54] <ppq> choose SASL as login method in server settings
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[20:55] <Svardskampe> ye, I did it when you just said SASL
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[20:56] <Svardskampe> ye, seems to work
[20:56] <Svardskampe> oeh, SASL is quick in identifying
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[20:57] <torpor> jancoow: i see nothing. rpi led's come on, nothing on the screen
[20:57] <torpor> i guess there won't be a logo without an sd card
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[21:05] <gr|> Why does it seem like half the HATs I try for the Pi include piping wget to bash as part of the install instructions? That's incredibly bad. >.<
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[21:06] <torpor> its what hipsters do
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[21:06] <gr|> :-\
[21:06] <gordonDrogon> creating .deb's is too hard.
[21:07] <GenteelBen> So is pronouncing your name, gordonDrogon.
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[21:08] <gordonDrogon> my name is gordon. seems easy enough to say.
[21:08] <gordonDrogon> drogon is just an anagram.
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[21:08] <gr|> You mean your name isn't actually gordonD?
[21:09] <gordonDrogon> no. it's gordon H
[21:09] <jancoow> mm, i cant get the ESC to work
[21:09] <jancoow> its bleeping
[21:09] <jancoow> and sometimes responding on my pwm
[21:10] <jancoow> but idk, motors arent spinning
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[21:11] <jancoow> ho! it was rotating for a sec! :D
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[21:17] <jancoow> ohhh its working
[21:17] <jancoow> little stutterie
[21:17] <jancoow> but i think thats the issue of the 3.3 volt pwm
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[21:18] <jancoow> oh nvm, you litterally hear the proccessor on the motor. Every wrong generated pulse you could hear on the motor. I'm happy i bought a external i2c pwm controller :D
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[21:33] <SpeedEvil> you want the PWM DMA thingy if you're doing PWM on the Pi
[21:33] <SpeedEvil> https://pythonhosted.org/RPIO/pwm_py.html
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[21:37] <uriah> jancoow: lol :)
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[21:45] <djazz> the rpi screen is gr8 <3
[21:47] <IT_Sean> gee are eight less than three?
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[21:52] <Apocx> so, anyone done any work with usb differential pairs before? cause these impedance calculators don't seem to agree and I have no idea which one I should believe: http://i.imgur.com/XrzTSmP.png
[21:52] <Apocx> maybe I'll just go with SaturnPCB's version and pray that it works :O
[21:54] <jancoow> uriah: well, my multimeter says it's using almost never then 1 ampere per motor
[21:54] <jancoow> never more*
[21:55] <jancoow> so that would be a flighttime of a half hour or something with a 3000mah battery? ;p
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[21:58] <jancoow> SpeedEvil: oh well, thanks. Didnt know that that exist. Only problem is i need 4 pwm channels while i only have 1 on the rpi. So still need my 16 channel pwm controller
[21:59] <SpeedEvil> Read it again.
[21:59] <SpeedEvil> It does >>1 channel - I think it can do 16
[21:59] <SpeedEvil> It does not use the PWM controller
[22:00] <jancoow> oh
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[22:04] <jancoow> lets check if i get some cleaner results
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[22:05] <jancoow> maybe a stupid question, but where can i find "RPIO" ?
[22:05] <jancoow> i cant import it
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[22:08] <jancoow> nvm, stupid question
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[22:30] <GreeningGalaxy> hi, I'm trying to run Apache2 on my pi and it refuses to start, providing no error message other than "failed!"
[22:31] <GreeningGalaxy> I suspect this may have to do with the fact that I disabled writing to /var/log to keep from roasting my SD card, but I have no idea how to proceed
[22:31] <GreeningGalaxy> does anyone have an suggestions for what I might have to do to get it running?
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[22:34] <GreeningGalaxy> aha, got it. just had to create the directory /var/log/apache2
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[22:50] <Berg> good morning to all
[22:50] <Berg> why is it so dark in here open a window its morning
[22:51] <Berg> 6:50am on the east coast of australia
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[22:53] <Tenkawa> whats new all?
[22:54] <Berg> Im bought 2 new rpi2 and they inform me demand is so high they out of stock for a week
[22:54] <Tenkawa> ouch
[22:54] <Tenkawa> got a local microcenter?
[22:54] <Berg> its ok i have more here
[22:55] <Tenkawa> ok good
[22:55] <Berg> it is the only place local its on the net
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[22:55] <Tenkawa> ah
[22:55] <Tenkawa> i can pick them up about 7 miles from here
[22:55] <Berg> they stock rubbish 100 dolar microcontrolers
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[22:55] <Berg> i told them to get up to date
[22:56] <Berg> silly rertailer
[22:56] <Berg> jaycar
[22:56] <Tenkawa> heheb
[22:56] <Tenkawa> er heheh
[22:56] <Berg> b
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[23:04] * Tenkawa waits for cpan builds to finish heheh
[23:07] <Berg> im watching a vid about a 15 year old prodogy
[23:07] <Berg> in teresting no educatyion but built his own radioa station
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[23:13] <Apocx> did he have access to the internet?
[23:14] <Apocx> cause that can provide a better education than most school systems
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[23:19] <clonak> they're called modern learning envirments here now.
[23:19] <clonak> with learning coaches.
[23:19] <Berg> Apocx: no
[23:19] <clonak> in open plan class rooms,
[23:20] <clonak> with upto 4 classes per room.
[23:20] <Berg> he had no power in his village Apocx
[23:20] <Apocx> wow. so how is he running the radio station? solar or something?
[23:20] <Berg> small generator by the look of it andf batteries he finds
[23:20] <Berg> he also made that
[23:21] <Apocx> interesting
[23:21] <Berg> very
[23:21] <Berg> leasrning without a teacher just junk in a rubbish bin
[23:22] <Berg> good stuff
[23:23] <Berg> found another vid about same kid more detail
[23:23] <Berg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOLOLrUBRBY
[23:24] <Apocx> oh I remember this kid
[23:24] <Apocx> DJ Focus :)
[23:24] <Berg> yes
[23:25] <Berg> interesting but gives no detail of his learning methods
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[23:25] <Berg> freinds pi-man send me you old displays
[23:25] <Apocx> he looks like a young Lil Bow Wow :P
[23:26] <Berg> them folks look the same to me
[23:26] <Berg> :)
[23:27] <Berg> he looks a bit like steven hawkins
[23:27] * Berg snickers
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[23:36] <Tenkawa> anyone heard a timeline for the 4.3-rc kernel to be in the rpi github repo yet?
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[23:44] <Tenkawa> bbl..
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[23:55] <Axy> Hey all
[23:55] <Axy> I'm new to raspberry, I ordered my first pi today
[23:55] <Axy> I came across pipsta printer earlier today
[23:55] <Axy> is there any other similar printers
[23:55] <Axy> the concept is interesting
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