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IRC Log for 2015-09-20

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[0:16] <DReynolds> Am I right in thinking that with an HD44780 LCD (using 8-bit), that the Read/Write pin (pin 5) is connected to ground?
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[0:32] <pksato> DReynolds: yes, R/W is ground.
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[0:42] <DReynolds> sigh. ive just pulled out all the wiring and started again. nothing. not even the blocked out row 1+3 i used to get when it was powered on but nothing had been written to it
[0:43] <DReynolds> im really hoping that i havent killed the LCD, it took 3 weeks to turn up from china :'(
[0:45] <CoJaBo> DReynolds: I had an issue once due to a missing strip in the breadboard >_>
[0:46] <DReynolds> hmmmmm. let me just try it in a more expensive breadboard :P this may take about 20mins :P
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[1:18] <DReynolds> nope. ive rewired it live 4 times now, tried a different breadboard ive had no problems with before, replaced the GPIO breakout with jumpers ive used before. still nothing. I've got a dead LCD haven't I?
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[1:19] <[Saint]> Smells like it.
[1:19] <[Saint]> Though it's hard to imagine what went wrong.
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[1:20] <[Saint]> LCDs, generally speaking, are fairly resilient.
[1:21] <DReynolds> I don't mind the cost of replacing it. but im so close to finishing my project. i really dont want to put it on hold for 3 weeks to get another one shipped
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[1:22] <[Saint]> Why on Earth is it taking such an ungodly amount of time to ship?
[1:22] <DReynolds> I cant figure it out either. ... but ive tested all the GPIO pins im using with an LED and theyre all working :S
[1:22] <DReynolds> coming from china
[1:22] <[Saint]> I can get parts here from China (I'm in New Zealand - yes, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down there), in 3 days.
[1:22] <[Saint]> 0_o
[1:22] <DReynolds> most of the ones round here are 16x2. .. need one 20x4
[1:22] <gorroth> RPi > OrPi
[1:23] <gorroth> but that's just me
[1:23] <gorroth> the BanPi, however, looks cool
[1:23] <DReynolds> really? today i got a shipment from china i ordered 5 weeks ago :S
[1:23] <[Saint]> You're going via sea?
[1:23] <[Saint]> Sure sounds like it.
[1:23] <[Saint]> I use priority shipping. Airmail.
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[1:23] <Berg> sailmail
[1:23] <DReynolds> lol. i think my parts are just being put in a bottle and thrown off the shore
[1:23] <[Saint]> :))
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[1:24] <gorroth> it gets to NZ quickly because they sail around the horn of africa?
[1:25] <DReynolds> still cant work out what could have gone wrong though. ... before when i used to use it 2 lines displayed blocked out when it started, before any data was written or it was intiialised at all. im not getting that even, so im guessing its not a problem with data pins as its failing before data transfer
[1:25] <Berg> NZ is trhe capital of the planet
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[1:25] <gorroth> Planet Sand?
[1:26] <gorroth> j/k
[1:26] <gorroth> Planet Dust
[1:26] <[Saint]> It's the capital of the Internet.
[1:26] <gorroth> lol jk
[1:26] <[Saint]> ALL your packets belong to us.
[1:26] <[Saint]> That's the main reason we're important. Strategic (albeit accidental) positioning.
[1:27] <[Saint]> Look at a map of undersea cables and hub points one day, then try having a guess why the US and UK are our buddies.
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[1:27] <[Saint]> TL;DR: we're slupin' up ALL yo datas.
[1:28] <gorroth> i'm pretty sure AUS was our pal before anything you're talking about
[1:28] <DReynolds> well stop it. I need that data. for ....... reasons
[1:29] <gorroth> looking at the undersea cable map
[1:30] <gorroth> it certainly looks like EU and southeast Asia are more friendly to us than NZ
[1:30] <gorroth> which is what i thought after reading Cryptonomicon
[1:30] <gorroth> all that post-war internet buildup
[1:31] <[Saint]> The governments there aren't as friendly to the US as a whole.
[1:31] <gorroth> they seem to be
[1:31] <[Saint]> Whereas we'll bend over backwards for you.
[1:31] <Berg> USA???
[1:31] <NedScott> hmm, I need a better set of files for messing with plastic cases
[1:31] <NedScott> the ones I have are too fine and take too long
[1:31] <[Saint]> NedScott: dremmel
[1:31] <Berg> abrasive files or data files?
[1:32] <NedScott> I have a dremel, but it is too rough for the work I am doing
[1:32] <Berg> use a soldering iron
[1:32] <Berg> melt melt
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[1:36] <Includes08> So, you guys probably think i'm picky and cheap but i am looking for digital signage one that has more options then just pictures and works well on the raspberry pi
[1:36] <gorroth> dremmellllll
[1:36] <gorroth> i love those things
[1:36] <Includes08> dremmell?
[1:36] <gorroth> from earlier
[1:36] <[Saint]> Includes08: Screenly
[1:37] <Includes08> i am now using concerto its just a pain in the ass the browser doesn't wanna show the things ;c
[1:37] <[Saint]> Includes08: and/or Raspberry Digital Signage
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[1:37] <[Saint]> There's a metric craptonne of preformed distributions for handling digital signage on a raspi.
[1:37] <NedScott> Includes08: have you looked at the digital signage on the pi wiki?
[1:37] <Includes08> [Saint], thats the biggest name, i don't like screenly need more things like rss feed and weather updates.
[1:38] <Includes08> Uhhm i know if i see it i probably did
[1:38] <gorroth> wow, omg, my crappy laptop builds AVR binaries a lot faster than my raspberry pi
[1:38] <gorroth> i didn't think i'd really notice the difference, since my avr code is very small
[1:38] <gorroth> but i noticed
[1:38] <NedScott> hmm, I thought screenly did stuff like RSS feeds
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[1:40] <Includes08> on the OSE edition to?
[1:41] <Includes08> I wan't something that i can run on my own server :c
[1:43] <Includes08> NedScott, https://www.concerto-signage.org/ i like this, but the only way i'm able to run it is on the webpage and that doesn't even work on the raspberry pi ;c
[1:43] <Includes08> i guess html5 troubles
[1:43] * DReynolds is a complete bloody idiot
[1:43] <NedScott> Includes08: what kind of layout or whatever are you looking for?
[1:44] <NedScott> like, what features do you need
[1:44] <DReynolds> apparently, id wired contrast to 5v...... hence no text at all. connect it to ground like someone who isnt mentaly subnormal and all is fine
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[1:45] <Includes08> Customizable layouts, rss, videos, images, calendar, etc. And id love to see a opensource / free version of it --> running it on my own server. I don't need bound services behind it.
[1:45] <Includes08> I just thought this wouldn't be hard at all on the rpi but it kinda is
[1:47] <NedScott> hmm
[1:47] <NedScott> most of them are probably web based
[1:47] <NedScott> I'm guessing
[1:47] <NedScott> now that you've pointed it out, I'm surprised by the lack of options myself that aren't heavy on web
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[1:53] <Includes08> NedScott, indeed and if i can just get concerto to run then i'm quiet happy but still nothing
[1:54] <Includes08> Cause on my laptop it just works ;c
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[1:59] <gorroth> i think i'm gonna have to give CLion a try. i like qtcreator, but it isn't jiving well with cross-platform dev
[2:02] <Berg> evil qt
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[2:02] <gorroth> yes, evil evil
[2:03] <gorroth> i've used it to do cross-compiile for cmake
[2:03] <Berg> if you gona make a GUI use tkinter and python
[2:03] <gorroth> but using it without cmake, it's a real B
[2:03] <gorroth> no way
[2:03] <gorroth> QT is way better than that
[2:03] <Berg> yes way
[2:03] <Berg> nooo
[2:03] <gorroth> and i'm not making any gui
[2:03] <gorroth> i just like the IDE
[2:03] <Berg> ooo
[2:03] <Berg> i thought you was making
[2:03] <gorroth> but when not using cmake, it's all like "use freaking QT!"
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[2:03] <Berg> qtcreator is GUI
[2:03] <gorroth> you have to do special stuff to get rid of it, i think
[2:04] <gorroth> qtcreator is not just for making GUIs
[2:04] <gorroth> i used it to port ROBLOX to android, when i still worked for ROBLOX
[2:04] <Berg> well i dont like qt in all its forms anyway
[2:04] <Berg> they started qtscript then dropped it
[2:04] <gorroth> it doesn't have a form if you're not using it
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[2:04] <Berg> evil
[2:05] <Berg> evil
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[2:43] <mortdeus> is there a 3rd party pacman source for archlinux that pertains specifically to the Raspberry Pi packages found in Rasbian?
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[2:48] <shiftplusone> mortdeus: the overlap between pi users and arch users has shrunk somewhat, so you might not find that
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[3:09] <gorroth> raspbian all the way :-)
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[3:15] <[Saint]> Arch master race.
[3:15] <warpie> Ubuntu Rules
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[3:15] <[Saint]> Oh? Sorry. I can't hear you over the sound of your hilariously outdated packages. :p
[3:16] <warpie> ok sorry
[3:16] <warpie> I'll go away...
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[3:34] <Stanto> [Saint]: arch master "oh crap it's broke everything because I haven't updated for x months" race
[3:34] <[Saint]> In all fairness, if you're using arch, and not updating for months...you're doing it wrong.
[3:35] <raalex> :)
[3:35] <Stanto> Sometimes, you just can't get net access.
[3:35] <[Saint]> Add to that that everything that is done can be undone and you've got yourself a fine case of an invalid point.
[3:35] <Stanto> [Saint]: Hahaaaa if you say so.
[3:35] <Stanto> I'm glad it's gone well for you.
[3:35] <[Saint]> I do.
[3:36] <raalex> If you can live with months of no internet access ... you're probably not the kinda guy for Arch either
[3:37] <Stanto> raalex: It's possible to go months with access to the internet, but not with a means of your computer having access to the internet.
[3:37] <[Saint]> It's that stupid broken "never touch a running system" attitude coming out to play.
[3:38] <[Saint]> ...have fun with your active CVEs, folks.
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[3:39] <raalex> and here I am thinking it was just a lighthearted joke
[3:39] <Stanto> [Saint]: that attitude can sit in the same pile as the 'if it aint broke dont fix it', to some extent at least.
[3:39] <[Saint]> Not if it /is/ broke.
[3:41] <Stanto> Being broke and not realising it isn't the same as not being broke
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[4:23] <TeraJL> hi there, is there any emulator or virtual machine where i can install a raspberrypi ARM os, change it and configure it? so i can then copy it to an sd card and run it
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[4:26] <amigojapan> TeraJL: I dont know what ARM os is, but you can use QEMU to emulate a raspberry pi
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[4:27] <TeraJL> ARM os, what is i a distro that runs on a ARM processor (raspberry pi processor)
[4:28] <warpie> where do you get that OS?
[4:28] <Berg> da_BOSS JamesNZ Berg iluvalar Overlord[BDC] [Kent] The_zEus[DW] ak_rosh_ ToTaLkRieG_ ph0x NotANick Fabio_IT stiv scrdcow Subsentient x1 Cyp_ wzbot @ChanServ spm_ bohan
[4:28] <Berg> oops sorry
[4:28] <amigojapan> TeraJL: are you asking which Linux distro runs on raspberry pi? many do, most popular is raspbian
[4:28] <Berg> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
[4:32] <warpie> ok, I don't see ARM OS... just the usual pi OSes...
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[4:40] <niston> shiftplusone, which TV did you end up with?
[4:40] <warpie> I got a 32
[4:40] <warpie> inch LG
[4:40] <warpie> and I love it
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[4:58] <niston> heh
[4:59] <warpie> so how is life in Swiserland?
[5:00] <niston> pretty good
[5:00] <niston> I got that TV I talked about the other day
[5:00] <niston> its fantastic
[5:00] <niston> im using an IKEA kallax (1x4) as TV furniture
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[5:00] <niston> was a bit worried if it might give (TV weighs 40kg)
[5:00] <niston> but apparently there are people using those kallax things as fish tank stands
[5:01] <niston> with tanks of up to 160l size
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[5:01] <niston> which must weigh some 200kg complete with interior
[5:01] <warpie> wow
[5:01] <warpie> really pushing it, eh?
[5:01] <niston> these things are not made from wood
[5:01] <niston> its cardboard
[5:01] <warpie> oh wow
[5:01] <niston> hexagon structure
[5:01] <warpie> oh ok
[5:02] <niston> honeycomb
[5:02] <warpie> as long as it stays dry
[5:02] <niston> yup
[5:02] <niston> well its painted
[5:02] <niston> with acryl
[5:02] <niston> so not that sensitive I guess
[5:02] <warpie> even humidity can affect its stregth
[5:03] <niston> shouldn't be a problem in my case
[5:04] <warpie> ok, if it is soaked with acryl then it's real strong...
[5:04] <niston> http://www.picturesbymom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/IKEA-Hack-EXPEDIT-Shoe-Rack-4.jpg
[5:05] <niston> it should be ok
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[5:05] <warpie> ok looking...
[5:06] <warpie> ok now I see what is being said.. yeh, have to keep that dry...
[5:06] <warpie> ty
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[5:27] <[Saint]> One of the fundamental lessons in life that we often forget.
[5:27] <[Saint]> "If nature does it, it probably is a non-stupid idea"
[5:28] <[Saint]> re: hexagonal celled load bearing structures.
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[5:30] <[Saint]> Technically speaking cylinders are a LOT stronger, but you can't pack them anywhere near as densely.
[5:32] <warpie> well we cud make them outta solid wood... no failure there...
[5:33] <[Saint]> Except when you consider that an overwhelming percentage of IKEA stuff is for export and you would absolutely ruin the profit margins in flat packed furniture adding such excessive and neesless weight.
[5:33] <[Saint]> Y'know...stuff.
[5:34] <[Saint]> IKEA's stuff isn't supposed to last forever. It's just supposed to be inexpensive and functional, and cost effective to produce and ship.
[5:35] <[Saint]> It ticks those boxes.
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[5:38] <warpie> true.. very true...
[5:40] <[Saint]> http://www.ikeahackers.net/ is a cute little site
[5:40] <[Saint]> doing unexpected things with IKEA furniture.
[5:41] <niston> I have a lack rack :D
[5:41] <[Saint]> I can never remember what IKEA furniture I have. If I tried to list them all, it would be indistinguishable from my cat walking on my keyboard.
[5:42] <[Saint]> oomplajompaleefenshlitzv
[5:42] <warpie> lol
[5:42] <warpie> I remember when that happened.. made me laugh so hard...
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[5:45] <niston> http://imgur.com/Nm0Nhss
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[5:46] <vdamewood> Now I want to install a Pi into my Kallax shelves.
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[6:22] <jj__> how do i auto start a python program when rpi turns on (raspbian command line)
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[6:23] <[Saint]> cron @reboot
[6:23] <[Saint]> (ask man or google about cron)
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[6:24] <jj__> hmm
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[6:26] <warpie> lol
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[6:50] <[Saint]> Holy crap Fantastic Four is terrible.
[6:51] <[Saint]> Not sure what I was expecting...
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[7:13] <gorroth> [Saint]: the previews made me sigh from the moment i saw the opening scene
[7:13] <gorroth> i'm not surprised
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[7:13] <McBride36> iirc it was just to maintain the rights to fantastic 4
[7:13] <[Saint]> Pretty much.
[7:13] <[Saint]> "See, we're still using it, it's still relevant!"
[7:14] <gorroth> i finally got a good cmake toolchain setup for my avr project up on github, with some working code behind it... it'll need a lot of work to become really flexible and properly organized, however
[7:14] <gorroth> McBride36: lol
[7:14] <gorroth> i didn't know that
[7:14] <gorroth> they could have just made some toys or something
[7:14] * [Saint] wondered how he managed to go this long without discovering Chaos Chaos.
[7:14] <[Saint]> Though, they sound /very/ familiar. And I can't place why.
[7:14] <gorroth> https://github.com/grimwm/avr <== the avr code that is specifically usable from the RPi
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[7:15] <gorroth> warning: it's still rough
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[7:16] <[Saint]> Ooooooh! It's Smoosh. That's why.
[7:16] <[Saint]> Derp.
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[7:20] <[Saint]> Hear a band you like, sounds vaguely familiar, find out it's actually a band you like and know well by another (past) name. ...ha.
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[9:11] <Berg> like sands through the hour glass
[9:13] <[Saint]> Deep bruh.
[9:16] <Berg> 3veryone sleepin?
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[9:19] <[Saint]> Yes.
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[9:20] <Berg> its the weekend they should be awake
[9:20] <Berg> it will be monday in a few hours
[9:21] <[Saint]> 4.5, by my count.
[9:22] <[Saint]> 6.5~12.5 for most everyone else.
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[9:22] <Berg> 6.5
[9:22] <[Saint]> That /probably/ has something to do with people being absent. ;)
[9:22] <Berg> the sun is still shini8ng here
[9:22] <[Saint]> Australasia isn't heavily represented in this channel.
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[9:23] <Berg> i noticed
[9:23] <Berg> couple kiwis thats almost australia
[9:23] <[Saint]> Which is weird, because it's hard to travel _anywhere_ and not bump into a Kiwi.
[9:23] <Berg> NZ is a suburb of taSSMANia
[9:24] <[Saint]> And Australia is just a giant British prison. ;)
[9:24] <[Saint]> errr...prison-slash-deathcamp.
[9:24] <[Saint]> :p
[9:25] <Berg> thats wrong we was a prison and turn it into parradisde now the pommies have to get a visa
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[9:25] <[Saint]> Interesting definition of paradise.
[9:25] <Berg> prince harry is welcome here he partiers on dude
[9:26] <[Saint]> More species that can kill you per capita of anywhere in the world, 90% of the land is _completely_ uninhabitable, ...and, of course, Australians.
[9:26] <Berg> I live in parradise summer all year round only a few cyclons what can posibley go wrong
[9:26] <Berg> hehehe'
[9:26] <Berg> thats true
[9:27] <[Saint]> Dropbears.
[9:27] <Berg> but you learn early in life to look under the dunny lid for spiders or you dont loive
[9:27] <Berg> live
[9:27] <[Saint]> I can't imagine that kind of mentality here. We send our kids out into the world to eat dirt and bugs and stuff freely.
[9:27] <Berg> drop bears are just trained koala's to keep the tourists in line
[9:28] <[Saint]> There's pretty much nothing here that can kill you.
[9:28] <Berg> so do we
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[9:28] <[Saint]> Well...there are a few things, but they're /very/ scarce.
[9:28] <Berg> thats why our population is not so high
[9:28] <[Saint]> Hahahahahahaha!
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[9:28] <Berg> see its like the spartans only the worthy survive
[9:29] <Berg> but we dont advertise that
[9:29] <[Saint]> We have one venomous spider in NZ, and it is hilariously difficult to find, even if you're looking for it.
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[9:29] <Berg> yeah and sheep
[9:29] <Berg> lots of sheep
[9:29] <[Saint]> And even if you get them cornered they'll try anything to get away from you without biting.
[9:30] <Berg> yeah most snaked do except a few dosen we have here
[9:30] <Berg> we even have birds that attack you on site
[9:30] <Berg> plovers for one and magpies
[9:30] <Berg> some owls
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[9:31] <digitaldias> badgers
[9:31] <Berg> anyway we do looze a lot of tourists lately
[9:32] <[Saint]> Our tourists generally die by falling into or off things.
[9:32] <Berg> lots sharks in the rivers and crocs season is wide open this year too many
[9:32] <[Saint]> Or rampant alcoholism.
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[9:32] <[Saint]> A disturbing amount of british tourists come here and accidentally drink themselves to death.
[9:32] <[Saint]> No idea why...but it's a thing.
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[9:32] <Berg> yeah there is that but ours never die of alcohaul toxins a animal usualy gets them first
[9:33] <[Saint]> :)
[9:33] <Berg> or a idnian cab driver
[9:33] <Berg> indian
[9:33] <Berg> hahahah im rolling
[9:33] <Berg> I told meself a joke
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[9:34] <Berg> i been brousing github for python goodies but not much happening there
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[9:53] <cluelessperson> hey. I'm trying to use a thermal camera with the raspberry pi, and I get the error
[9:53] <cluelessperson> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'applyColorMap'
[9:54] <cluelessperson> when 2.4.11 clearly has documented cv2.applyColorMap as referenced here. http://www.learnopencv.com/applycolormap-for-pseudocoloring-in-opencv-c-python/
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[9:55] <gorroth> cluelessperson: i take it you're using python. anyway, you should trust your tools over the documentation
[9:55] <gorroth> it means the attr doesn't exist on whatever type you've given it
[9:56] <cluelessperson> gorroth, Given it being a build for raspberrypi, I'm wondering if it's just being excluded here, and I'm wondering if I can fix that.
[9:56] <gorroth> in python, you can type help(m) or help(type(o)) (m being module and o being class) to figure out what attrs it has
[9:56] <gorroth> o being object*
[9:56] <gorroth> then you can see what kind of object you have and its attrs
[9:57] <gorroth> if you don't care about the help files, just type(o) will suffice to give you the type's name
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[10:00] <cluelessperson> gorroth, I believe it's a numpy array that the cv2 library likes to use.
[10:00] <gorroth> you can get that kind of error, btw, if python loaded lib.py instead of lib/__init__.py, if you have two things sharing the same "lib" name
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[10:00] <cluelessperson> in this case, uint8
[10:01] <gorroth> don't know.. you'll have to debug
[10:01] <cluelessperson> I don't know how to here.
[10:01] <gorroth> well, a uint8 is not an array
[10:01] <gorroth> it's an 8-bit integer
[10:03] <gorroth> cluelessperson: if you don't know how to debug; you're going to have a really hard time
[10:03] <gorroth> it sounds like you're coding
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[10:04] <[Saint]> Debugging is for people who make mistakes.
[10:04] <[Saint]> Every line of my code is perfect. If it fails, it's because the tools are broken.
[10:05] <[Saint]> Their maintainers need to debug their tools for not working with my awesome infallible code.
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[10:05] <gorroth> that's what i was just saying as i was debugging my PWM code for an avr
[10:05] <gorroth> i was like, "no way did i make a silly mistake"
[10:05] <[Saint]> Every coder ever.
[10:05] <cluelessperson> [Saint], cv2 2.4.11 documents having cv2.applyColorMap( to get an error that there is no cv2.applyColorMap is not my fault.
[10:05] <gorroth> so i rewrote the entire avr-gcc code to make it so my stuff runs
[10:06] <[Saint]> Hahahahahaha! :)
[10:06] <cluelessperson> and I never said before that it's not my fault
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[10:06] <cluelessperson> nor did I blame the tools, I blamed the compilation by implication
[10:06] <[Saint]> Someone's a lil' uptight.
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[10:06] <[Saint]> Humor, yo. Get some.
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[10:07] <cluelessperson> I'm annoyed that this crap happens continuously with python. :/
[10:07] <gorroth> cluelessperson: anyway, cv2 is a uint8, not an array
[10:07] <gorroth> you said it was a uint8 anyway
[10:07] <gorroth> also, this is why python is shit
[10:07] <gorroth> you don't know what types are until runtime
[10:08] <cluelessperson> I don't know how to fix it, the packages are annoying, nonstandardized, package management is a nightmare, and while it looks all clean, under the hood it gets so messy.
[10:08] <[Saint]> Gimme C any day.
[10:08] <cluelessperson> I can't recall running into this issue in arduino
[10:09] <[Saint]> You know what you're getting into with C. Less surprises.
[10:09] <cluelessperson> sure I've been confused, because I hadn't pieced together the structure of some data stream or whatever, but I never EVER EVER got stuck with "why the fuck isn't this tool working?"
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[10:10] <gorroth> [Saint]: yeah, or at least any statically typed language
[10:10] * [Saint] nods
[10:10] <cluelessperson> python: Oh, let's install this package. apt-get install python-opencv. Good! Now let's use it! cv2.applyColorMap( .... wtf is this error?
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[10:10] <[Saint]> Any langauage designed to be primarily human readable is pretty much guaranteed to be a giant crapshoot.
[10:10] <cluelessperson> php has been great to me personally. :/
[10:10] <gorroth> cluelessperson: that's the wrong way to install packages, btw
[10:11] <cluelessperson> gorroth, what? pip install opencv ?
[10:11] <gorroth> cluelessperson: setup a virtualenv and then "activate" it, and then use pip
[10:11] <gorroth> yes
[10:11] <cluelessperson> why do I need a virtualenv?
[10:11] <gorroth> fine, use root to do it
[10:11] <gorroth> but apt-get isn't the best way
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[10:11] <cluelessperson> I don't know what the point of a virtualenv is in this context
[10:12] <cluelessperson> it's not self-explanatory
[10:12] <[Saint]> Welcome to Python.
[10:12] <[Saint]> Where everything is broken and the points don't matter...actually, wait, I think that's Who's Line is it Anyway.
[10:12] * cluelessperson is considering not using python.
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[10:13] <cluelessperson> I'm a fan of PHP
[10:13] <gorroth> lol
[10:13] <gorroth> php
[10:13] <gorroth> oh man
[10:13] <gorroth> anyway
[10:13] <[Saint]> There are people who swear by it. How they came to that conclusion is beyond me.
[10:13] <cluelessperson> I know, but seriously, it's never fucked me
[10:13] <cluelessperson> python does, always
[10:13] <gorroth> if you don't understand the purpose of a virtualenv, that's fine. but use pip to install the package you need
[10:13] <KDDLB> PHP is good
[10:13] <[Saint]> *family friendly, yo*
[10:13] <gorroth> yes, it's "good"
[10:13] <KDDLB> no, it is
[10:13] <KDDLB> there are BAD programmers instead
[10:14] <gorroth> i know! i've used it a lot, it's "good"
[10:14] <KDDLB> perhaps you're not good at PHP
[10:14] <KDDLB> ;)
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[10:14] <cluelessperson> I don't know, I likely suck
[10:14] <gorroth> i'm actually really good
[10:14] <gorroth> and my educated opinion is that php is not good
[10:14] <cluelessperson> I have difficulty finding people that can convey the concepts and how to work very well.
[10:15] <cluelessperson> i don't want to sit down and waste time reading mindless crap where someone is good at programming but can't communicate language for shit.
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[10:15] <gorroth> cluelessperson: no offense, but it sounds like you're unable to debug things
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[10:15] <cluelessperson> gorroth, before coming in here I already did dir(cw2) applyColorMap is not there, I don't know why
[10:15] <gorroth> i gave you some ideas on how you can do that
[10:15] <cluelessperson> how am I supposed to know why
[10:15] <gorroth> but we don't have your code or setup
[10:15] <gorroth> so we can't tell you anything
[10:15] <cluelessperson> I did them before I even spoke to you. :/
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[10:16] <gorroth> all we can do is guide you on how you can solve it yourself
[10:16] <cluelessperson> gorroth, raspberrypi + apt-get install python-opencv + cv2.applyColorMap => error
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[10:17] <gorroth> cluelessperson: there are at least two separte packages in "pip" for what look to be opencv
[10:17] <gorroth> i am guessing you installed the wrong one
[10:17] <gorroth> that's why i told you about how you can get that error if you use the wrong module
[10:17] <gorroth> even if the names match
[10:19] <cluelessperson> pip install list gives a syntax error, what the shit.
[10:19] <gorroth> learn to use pip
[10:20] <cluelessperson> I googled "pip list installed packages" and pip install list is the first thing that comes up
[10:20] <cluelessperson> That's not me failing, that's it being a fuckup
[10:20] <gorroth> it's just you failing
[10:20] <cluelessperson> how so?
[10:21] <[Saint]> *family friendly, yo*
[10:21] <cluelessperson> the first fucking result on google literally describes that as the answer
[10:21] <gorroth> if you don't want to work through problems, may i recommend mcdonalds? you don't have the tenacity for coding
[10:21] <[Saint]> ...and we know that the first result on Google is /always/ correct.
[10:21] <[Saint]> <rolleyes>
[10:21] <cluelessperson> Telling me I need to learn to use it, when it presents incorrect information, is bs and you know it.
[10:21] <cluelessperson> sigh
[10:21] <gorroth> "it" being google?
[10:22] <gorroth> google didn't write pip
[10:22] <gorroth> what's great is you don't even know hot to read the manuals
[10:22] <gorroth> it comes with one right on the rpi
[10:22] * cluelessperson does pip freeze
[10:23] <cluelessperson> wtf would you name it freeze
[10:23] <gorroth> because it's used during code freezes
[10:23] <gorroth> they're things professional engineers do
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[10:23] <gorroth> anyway, type "pip help" on the command line and go from there
[10:24] <cluelessperson> yup, opencv not installed with pi
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[10:25] <[Saint]> I've literally never seen this channel get so toxic.
[10:26] <[Saint]> Like...ever.
[10:26] <[Saint]> So, well done, ...I guess.
[10:26] <[Saint]> :/
[10:27] <cluelessperson> [Saint], I don't understand being blamed for things that don't make sense.
[10:27] <gorroth> cluelessperson: well, there are least 2 packages in pip that look like they do opencv; so, you just have to know which one is what you want
[10:27] <cluelessperson> gorroth, sorry for being pissy with you
[10:27] <gorroth> np
[10:28] <gorroth> what method are you trying to find again?
[10:28] <gorroth> actually
[10:28] <gorroth> what url tells you about that attr?
[10:29] <[Saint]> cluelessperson: I understand that. I really didn't see "this doesn't work as I expect"; "'cos you're an idiot and everything you do is wrong and you can't read" coming either, for what it's worth.
[10:29] <[Saint]> paraphrasing, of course, but I can see /why/ you reacted that way.
[10:29] <cluelessperson> gorroth, http://docs.opencv.org/modules/contrib/doc/facerec/colormaps.html
[10:30] <cluelessperson> [Saint], I'm already stressed if I have to come in here. :/
[10:30] <gorroth> cluelessperson: yeah, i found that, but that is for c++. how do you know you're using the right python library?
[10:31] <cluelessperson> high school ruined reading for me, + adhd and it's hard to seriously sit down and read documentation.
[10:31] <cluelessperson> I tend to scan a page until I got what I think I needed
[10:31] <cluelessperson> gorroth, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28558723/create-colour-picture-from-greyscale-picture
[10:32] <cluelessperson> http://www.learnopencv.com/applycolormap-for-pseudocoloring-in-opencv-c-python/
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[10:35] <cluelessperson> gorroth, pyopencv is the main one I believe.
[10:35] <gorroth> cluelessperson: on my system, i have done "sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev libssl-dev" and then "pip install opencv_engine"
[10:35] <gorroth> it's doing the build now
[10:36] <cluelessperson> sudo pip install pyopencv
[10:36] <cluelessperson> errors out because it can't find a file it just downloaded
[10:40] <gorroth> hmm
[10:40] <gorroth> it looks like opencv for that module on linux is harder than it normally is
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[10:42] <gorroth> not sure right now
[10:42] <gorroth> i'd look more, but i'm going to bed
[10:42] <gorroth> goodnight all
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[10:43] <cluelessperson> this is my life
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[12:15] <dreamon> Im have a display on my PI. its running a gui. raspberrian. how can I start a terminal run a script automatic at boot?
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[12:20] <H__> dreamon: maybe add it to /etc/rc.local
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[12:28] <dreamon> H__, did not work
[12:29] <gordonDrogon> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/05/how-to-autostart-apps-in-rasbian-lxde-desktop/
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[12:35] <dreamon> gordonDrogon, Hello. I love you GPIO Software very Much!!
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[12:39] <cluelessperson> wtf, in the raspberry pi update there's 20MB docs that take 60+ minutes to download
[12:39] <cluelessperson> 21% [1 libraspberrypi-doc 21.8 MB/31.4 MB 70%] 39.9 kB/s 35min 1s
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[12:49] <gordonDrogon> dreamon, hope it's working well for you.
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[13:34] <dreamon> gordonDrogon, Im very happy with it. using some 1Wire temperatur sensors. doing some gnuplots on PI webserver. really cool. without your help I would be hooking till now :)
[13:34] <gordonDrogon> sounds good - wiringPi doesn't support 1w though, the kernel does that, but I guess you're using wiringPi for other stuff.
[13:35] <Sculptor> dreamon, DS18B20
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[13:37] <dreamon> gordonDrogon, sorry.. your right. for driving my LCD display and counting a power counter in my house.. that was it.
[13:37] <dreamon> Sculptor, Yes.
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[13:39] <dreamon> In winter I go on writing my heating controller (pi) .. I will use your wiringPi there, too. So great thanks to you!
[13:40] <gordonDrogon> neat.
[13:40] <gordonDrogon> I'm in the process of Pi controlling an oven.
[13:40] <gordonDrogon> got the thermocouples/amps - just waiting on the SSRs.
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[13:41] <dreamon> by the way. is there a watchdog possiblity, if pi is freezing to restart automaticly?
[13:41] <chunkyhead> if i give /wc
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[13:42] <gordonDrogon> I think so - just google for Pi watchdog - you load the kernel module & install the package.
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[13:43] <Sculptor> gordonDrogon, protip. add an emergency circuit breaker in the line with the SSR. you only switch it on/off when the SSR is shut down, unless there's an emergency
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[13:43] <gordonDrogon> huh?
[13:44] <Sculptor> yes
[13:44] <gordonDrogon> yes what? that didn't make sense to me.
[13:44] <Sculptor> it'll come to you
[13:45] <gordonDrogon> really not sure what you're on about. FWIW: I have controlled a lot of $big stuff with SSRs, Relays, etc. over the past 30 years. I'm fairly sure I know what I'm doing.
[13:45] <Sculptor> good
[13:47] <Sculptor> if your SSR get shorted, you won't e able to turn off your heater, unless you can cut the current physically with a relay
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[13:47] <Sculptor> gets
[13:48] <dreamon> gordonDrogon, what temperatur sensors do you use?
[13:48] <Sculptor> he uses thermocopules
[13:48] <Sculptor> likely K thermocouples
[13:48] <gordonDrogon> yes.
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[13:49] <dreamon> can you give me a datasheet?
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> max31855 amp/interface.
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> which I've just re-written the code for as it was broken in earelier wiringPi.s
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[13:49] <Sculptor> a good product. has onboard CJC
[13:49] <Votato> Hello! Please forgive my terrible Fritzinging, I can't get this circuit to work. http://i.imgur.com/7zenHcJ.png. Using code from this page (https://learn.adafruit.com/basic-resistor-sensor-reading-on-raspberry-pi/basic-photocell-reading, using pin 17 instead of 18)
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> http://skpang.co.uk/catalog/thermocouple-typek-glass-braid-insulated-k-p-1152.html
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> http://skpang.co.uk/catalog/thermocouple-amplifier-max31855-breakout-board-with-spi-output-p-1135.html
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> Sculptor, yes, it has CJC.
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[13:51] <Sculptor> for such home automation tasks i'd prefer using python over c
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[13:52] <gordonDrogon> I'll be writing this in BASIC.
[13:54] <dreamon> me in bash with parts in C :)
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> dreamon, you can do a lot with the gpio command in bash - I've seen some pretty impressive (& scarey!) stuff done with it...
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[13:56] <gordonDrogon> pi@raspberrypi ~/wiringPi/wiringPi $ x=`gpio -x max31855:200:0 aread 200` ; let y=x/4 ; echo $y
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> 19
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> 19C :=)
[13:58] <Sculptor> i've used DS18B20 years ago with a PIC
[13:59] <Sculptor> it's a nice sensor. you only need to find its id
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[13:59] <dreamon> bash is great.
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> I never got on with the 1w stuff. Don't know why, just not a big fan of it all.
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[14:00] <gordonDrogon> I need my oven sensors to go up to 300C though.
[14:00] <Sculptor> all you need are three wires, or two wires with a mosfet tweak to connect a bunch of sensors
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[14:00] <gordonDrogon> or a bit more when I get round to controlling the other ovens (I have 3)
[14:00] <dreamon> 1w is fine. 5senors only one pin. my display needs to much IOs so it was a good idea
[14:01] <Sculptor> dreamon, i got this OLD display based on SSD1306. spi interface
[14:01] <Sculptor> OLED
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[14:01] <Sculptor> 1.3" 128x64
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[14:01] <Sculptor> they make bigger displays as well
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> right. I think the /dev/gpiomem stuff is working well now. time to think about making a new release of wiringPi.
[14:03] <dreamon> I bought a cheap 480x240 display. so I have a gui with touch now. Pi is super. so many interests and so less time
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[14:08] <dreamon> Sculptor, spi I never used till now. using the real old stuff.. 8bit parallel.. :)
[14:08] <Sculptor> spi is very easy. even to big bang it
[14:08] <Sculptor> without a lib
[14:10] <gordonDrogon> the kernel supports SPI very well.
[14:10] <Votato> Sit rep on my issue, found accidently: if I unplug the ground wire, it gives me an output depending on how long it was plugged in for, and then outputs 0
[14:11] <Sculptor> gordonDrogon, i got my first rpi (2) up and running yesterday. still plenty of stuff to learn
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[14:12] <Sculptor> my strong dislike towards linux has slightly faded off, since then
[14:13] * plugwash wonders if there is really much point in /dev/gpiomem
[14:13] <plugwash> especially as some of the perhiperals can go dma..........
[14:14] <Sculptor> i'm gonna use spi from python to test my display
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[14:17] <gordonDrogon> plugwash, but... but ... the foundation are supporting it, so it must be good!
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> its usable without being root which is a bonus.
[14:19] <gordonDrogon> anyway, going to watch some catch-up tv now. laterz.
[14:23] <plugwash> gordonDrogon, the point is if you give a non-root user access to gpiomem you have given them the power to do some very nasty stuff to your system
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[14:23] <plugwash> quite probablly including obtaining root
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[14:25] <plugwash> or is gpiomem not what i'm thinking it is?
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[14:35] <[Saint]> gordonDrogon: ...wow, its been a while.
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[15:42] <gordonDrogon> plugwash, /dev/gpiomem is (AIUI) a cut-down version of /dev/mem that only allows mapping of the internal gpio areas and not the whole of mem. They can still crash the pi but if it's done correctly they shouldn't have access to memory in-general.
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> [Saint], yes - hello again.
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[15:42] <Sculptor> gordonDrogon, in order your CJC to work properly you need to carefully design the pcb
[15:42] <Sculptor> i'm not happy with the on-die temperature sensor, though
[15:42] <Sculptor> for*
[15:43] <plugwash> gordonDrogon, I get that but don't a number of the GPIO perhiperals have DMA?
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> Sculptor, the pcb is already designed - I'm using the adafruit breakout boards. They work well enough for oven control.
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[15:43] <Sculptor> ok
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[15:43] <gordonDrogon> plugwash, I've no idea - I've really not paid much attention for the past year. none of my wiringPi stuff uses any of the DMA channels.
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[15:44] <gordonDrogon> Sculptor, these: http://skpang.co.uk/catalog/thermocouple-amplifier-max31855-breakout-board-with-spi-output-p-1135.html
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[15:45] <Sculptor> not bad. you can expect readings to be several C off, though
[15:45] <gordonDrogon> plugwash, things like the servoblaster module uses dma, and I suspect there is a neopixel driver somewhere that uses it.
[15:45] <gordonDrogon> Sculptor, maybe, but right now they're spot-on compared to my IR thermometer.
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[15:46] <Sculptor> it uses die temperature to compensate CJ
[15:46] <Sculptor> good
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[15:47] <gordonDrogon> and it's an oven for cooking bread, cakes and patisserie. You may not have any idea just how inaccurate oven controllers currently are - especially ones with capillary based thermostats )-:
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> I have 3 ovens - I can set them all to the same temperature and they all cook differently ...
[15:48] <Sculptor> :)
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[15:57] <gordonDrogon> there are big commercial ovens with USB interfaces now though - cost lots of ���...
[15:58] <xcasex> sooo... four out of 200 rpi2 boards are showing some irritating issues with microsd storage, fs corruption, nulled fs journal etc
[15:58] <gordonDrogon> the world may well have gone mad. who'd have thought...
[15:58] <gordonDrogon> xcasex, sure its not the SD cards?
[15:58] <xcasex> yep
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[15:59] <xcasex> for each rpi i have a olimex lime 2, and for each fs corrupted sd, i reformat, reimage and try it out on similar load, on a lime2
[16:00] <gordonDrogon> so the issue sticks with the Pi and not the SD ?
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[16:00] <xcasex> yep
[16:01] <xcasex> so i'm going to continue testing about 16 units. >_>
[16:01] <SpeedEvil> xcasex: interesting
[16:01] <SpeedEvil> xcasex: do you have a comparable number of pis and olimex?
[16:01] <SpeedEvil> Are tehy doing similar stuff?
[16:01] <xcasex> SpeedEvil: i have ~30 olimex so no..
[16:01] <xcasex> yep
[16:02] <xcasex> running a subset of cherrypicked phoronix testsuite tests
[16:02] <SpeedEvil> xcasex: you've trid swapping PSUs?
[16:02] <SpeedEvil> xcasex: and how often does it occur on the problem pis?
[16:02] <xcasex> they're all using samsung 5v 1A usb chargers >_>
[16:03] <SpeedEvil> I would try swapping in case you've got dodgy PSUs
[16:03] <nid0> yeah, but you're saying you've got 4 fauly pi's out of 200, whose to say they arent 4 faulty chargers?
[16:03] <SpeedEvil> To eliminate something
[16:03] <xcasex> SpeedEvil: yep ordered more psus yesterday, but cant test those out just yet
[16:03] <SpeedEvil> Are the 'problem' ones failing once, or 20 times?
[16:03] <xcasex> they're failing consistently
[16:04] <SpeedEvil> nice
[16:04] <SpeedEvil> (from an investigatory POV
[16:04] <xcasex> nid0: although the psus, if faulty, should also impact the olimex
[16:04] <SpeedEvil> have you tried swapping working pis into dying slots?
[16:04] <xcasex> SpeedEvil: yep, havent had something this interesting in years :D
[16:04] <xcasex> elaborate "dying slots" ?
[16:05] <SpeedEvil> a Pi that doesn't work.
[16:05] <SpeedEvil> Change _nothing_ but the pi
[16:05] <SpeedEvil> - leave PSU, SD, ...
[16:05] <xcasex> ah yes, that's why i'm up to four pi's
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[16:39] <xcasex> if anyone wants a facepalm moment, check this project description https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/erle-spider-the-ubuntu-drone-with-leg
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[17:37] <xenkey> Hi
[17:37] <xenkey> I'm only getting mono sound from my raspi
[17:37] <xenkey> Which wouldn't be so bad if it was coming from both headphones
[17:38] <xenkey> It seems the other headphone is being used as a microphone
[17:38] <xenkey> Which is about as useful as it sounds
[17:38] <xenkey> Or doesn't sound as the case may be
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[17:43] <nid0> what model pi?
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[17:49] <xenkey> The 2
[17:52] <sven^_> same for me..
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[17:55] <xenkey> Well
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[17:55] <xenkey> if i do amixer cset numid=3 1 then amixer sset Master 100% it works
[17:55] <xenkey> Both headphones
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[18:00] <exonormal> get a Wolfson Sound card for the pi...
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[18:07] <exonormal> there are cheaper ones in Amazon.com, you have to do some hunting for what you are looking for...
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[18:16] <brethil> My Pi currently fails to boot (after a normal reboot), boot stops at “smcsc95xx…” with no other
[18:16] <brethil> information
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[18:16] <brethil> any ideas on what this could be due to?
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[18:26] <exonormal> try different SD card.. and reboot
[18:29] <exonormal> maybe settings in the reboot you did changed and messed up in process.. So, I would try another SD card of a known good OS and reboot to see if pi is ok...
[18:31] <brethil> I’m writing an ubuntu live CD to verify the SD card (on OS X right now)
[18:32] <brethil> I did not change any settings so it just seems weird to me
[18:32] <brethil> I’m hoping it’s not a corrupted SD card
[18:32] <brethil> Have had this one for less than 2 weeks :|
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[18:45] <MegaUZI> hi
[18:46] <MegaUZI> how do I revert back to the "first boot" "GUI" ?
[18:46] <MegaUZI> I want to enable SSH
[18:46] <brethil> type
[18:46] <brethil> raspi-config
[18:47] <brethil> sudo raspi-config
[18:47] <MegaUZI> thanks
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[18:50] <MegaUZI> i'm trying to have a minecraft server on my raspi, but I can't connect
[18:50] <MegaUZI> *cuberite aka MCserver
[18:50] <MegaUZI> how do i connect ?
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[18:54] <Berg> good morning MegaUZI
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[18:54] <Berg> in a terminal window "sudo raspi-config"
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[18:55] <Berg> that will allow you to enable ssh
[18:55] <MegaUZI> yes, that's done, thanks
[18:55] <Berg> as for mine craft i dont know if you need to open ports to have a server not familiar with that
[18:56] <MegaUZI> i can't connect in localhost
[18:56] <MegaUZI> yet the server is up and running
[18:56] <Berg> try the pi IP address
[18:56] <Berg> ifconfig
[18:56] <MegaUZI> I'll head to #cuberite
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[18:56] <Berg> in terminal to see ip
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[18:56] <MegaUZI> ok
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[18:56] <MegaUZI> how do i do that
[18:57] <Berg> just in terminal type in ifconfig
[18:57] <Berg> ifconfig
[18:57] <MegaUZI> ok
[18:57] <Berg> see you connection has a IP
[18:57] <Berg> it might be 192.168.somet5hi8ng
[18:58] <Berg> try connecting to your minecrafty with that
[18:58] <MegaUZI> ok
[18:59] <MegaUZI> holy barbecue
[18:59] <MegaUZI> it works !
[18:59] <HAL-2000> I can't Let you do that Dave
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[19:00] <MegaUZI> :(
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[19:07] <exonormal> lol
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[19:09] <spvensko> i'm interested in using a rpi2 as a desktop computer, it'll be used for forum browsing, listening to music, and emulating with retropi, does this seem reasonable or am i going to be disappointed?
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[19:10] <MegaUZI> how is your main computer
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[19:11] <spvensko> i have an old macbook pro that is nothing special
[19:11] <spvensko> i don't do any intensive gaming though
[19:11] <exonormal> spvensko: I use many pi's for main desktops for almost 3 years now.. you won't be dissappointed...
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[19:12] <exonormal> spvensko: it's just a matter of adjusting to a new platform...
[19:13] <exonormal> spvensko: the pi B-2 is awesome unit.. just put a big SD card in it and you will be all set...
[19:13] <spvensko> yeah, i realize there will be limitations, but for the price it seems like a nice alternative
[19:13] <exonormal> not much limitations...
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[19:14] <HAL-2000> I use this for a desktop pc
[19:15] <HAL-2000> its a rpi2
[19:15] <exonormal> it will take time to learn the way the pi operates and after a while you will be using the pi more than any lappy or desktop...
[19:15] <HAL-2000> I can't let you do that Dave
[19:16] <HAL-2000> raspbian is a good OS for testing it out
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[19:16] <HAL-2000> Might have to change your brouser I think the default is empathy
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[19:20] <exonormal> change it to Explorer...
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[19:20] <HAL-2000> I can't let you do that Dave
[19:20] <exonormal> sure you can
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[19:20] <MegaUZI> epiphany
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[19:21] <exonormal> Explorer
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[19:46] <niston> ah
[19:47] <niston> something to go with PiFM: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FM-Broadcast-transmitter-amplifier-200W/331655955389?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33487%26meid%3D8de6345d843743a1be4bb7e80cd78fa6%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D321867735791
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[19:48] <Berg> make one
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[19:53] <Berg> http://cie-wc.edu/FREEKItPlans.aspx
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[20:01] <gorroth> i believe it's time to mow my grass and then take a bike ride to starbucks to drink some tea and work on my circuit
[20:01] <Berg> its 4 in the morning dark!!!
[20:01] <gorroth> it's 13:00 here
[20:01] <Berg> goodness and its foggy
[20:01] <Berg> it cant be its dark out
[20:02] <gorroth> hehe
[20:02] <gorroth> alright, ttys
[20:02] <Berg> loater
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[21:04] <gorroth> i'm back
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[21:04] <gorroth> you'd think i can't really do anything for robotics dev while i'm sitting at a starbucks with an rpi next to me
[21:04] <gorroth> but i have a crossover cable and a dhcp server running on my laptop :-)
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[21:13] <gorroth> dang, i was just looking at the new size of my hex since i recoded some logic into lookup tables, and the size went up quite a bit...
[21:13] <gorroth> at least i think it's from the lookup tables
[21:13] <gorroth> later tonight, i'll bring back the older version of my code that has the logic instead and see if that reduces the size a lot
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[21:13] <gorroth> oh, and dang, i thought i was talking in the AVR channel; sorry!
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[21:14] <exonormal> lol
[21:14] <exonormal> that's ok, gorroth
[21:14] <exonormal> we enjoy the chats...
[21:15] <gorroth> :)
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[21:33] <Berg> <----chatters a lot
[21:34] <exonormal> eye no....
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[21:39] <Berg> eye candy
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[21:43] <gorroth> awesome! i am back in business with qtcreator
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[21:43] <gorroth> i got my project converted over to cmake, and now qtcreator works without complaining about qt
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[21:43] <gorroth> so i can cross-compile for the AVR
[21:43] <gorroth> :)
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[21:54] <gorroth> there's still a good chance i'll move over to CLion, but this is great right now
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[21:58] <k_j> guys i have heard of a touchscreen called pitft, but is this official?
[21:59] <k_j> i mean is it released by the rpi foundation?
[22:00] <shauno> that's adafruit's one? it's not "official" but it's been amongst the best-supported so far
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[22:00] <methuzla> foundation has released only one display: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/#the-eagerly-awaited-raspberry-pi-display
[22:00] <k_j> i was about to buy the wrong display....
[22:01] <methuzla> "wrong" how?
[22:01] <exonormal> the foundation's display is from the UK... shipping is about $20
[22:02] <k_j> methuzla, the pitft, which is not original
[22:03] <methuzla> there are more displays than just the foundation one that work just fine
[22:04] <pksato> only foundation display is connectec via DSI connector.
[22:04] <Berg> 60 dollar long time display folks cheap
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[22:05] <Berg> i was looking at ebay displays they cost5 the same
[22:05] <shauno> shipping's only really an issue if you actually buy it from the foundation themselves. you can go via element14 & co for domestic shipping
[22:05] <shauno> same as the pi itself really.
[22:06] <Berg> yeah and here element 14 free shipping over 45 bucks
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[22:07] <Sculptor> i have connected to rpi2 via mstsc from win and xrdp
[22:08] <Sculptor> i'm epxeriencing some strange behaviour
[22:08] <Sculptor> some processes are active but their windows aren't visible
[22:08] <k_j> how fast is accessing the display? is it as fast as outputting to hdmi?
[22:08] <Sculptor> they used to be. i had 2 irssi open. i was able to use them via remote desktop
[22:08] <Sculptor> now i can't see their windows
[22:09] <Sculptor> but i can if i use rpi directly
[22:09] <Sculptor> i have no idea
[22:09] <Berg> check ip
[22:09] <Sculptor> what to check. i have only one rpi
[22:10] <Berg> you said remote desktop
[22:10] <Sculptor> yes, i'm connecting from my window machine to rpi
[22:10] <Sculptor> i installed xrdp on rpi
[22:10] <Sculptor> and i'm using mstsc on win machine
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[22:12] <Sculptor> this linux experience is exactly the same as 15+ years ago
[22:13] <Sculptor> in one sentence "close but no cigar"
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[22:27] <Encrypt> Hello there o/
[22:27] <Encrypt> Hi shiftplusone! :)
[22:27] <shiftplusone> Hello sir
[22:28] <shiftplusone> in plymouth yet?
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[22:28] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, Yep! That's awesome here!
[22:28] <shiftplusone> great to hear
[22:28] <Encrypt> I arrived on the 15th of September
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[22:30] <shiftplusone> What are you doing as far as accommodation goes? renting a room or something?
[22:30] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, What seems strange is that all people are extremely nice compared to France.
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[22:30] <Encrypt> I am renting a student room for £79 pw
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[22:30] <shiftplusone> Ahm..... I'll not give my opinions on French 'hospitality' =P
[22:31] <Encrypt> And the house is really great.
[22:31] <Encrypt> Eh eh :P
[22:31] <shiftplusone> And brits are actually not very polite at all either
[22:31] <Encrypt> Well...
[22:31] <shiftplusone> You should go to Germany, Australia or Canada.... I love the people in those countries.
[22:31] <Encrypt> As far as I'm concerned, they are
[22:31] <Encrypt> I think they are*
[22:31] <shiftplusone> Well, your reference frame is the French XD
[22:32] <Encrypt> :D
[22:32] <Encrypt> Eh eh xD
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[22:33] <gordonDrogon> come to Devon - it's nice here.
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[22:34] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, I'm in Devon :)
[22:34] <Encrypt> Nice to see you btw. I thought you left IRC forever :P
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[22:35] <gordonDrogon> Encrypt, no - just somewhere else for a while. where in Devon?
[22:35] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, Plymouth :)
[22:36] <gordonDrogon> ah, just down the road from me then.
[22:36] <Encrypt> Really? :D
[22:36] <Encrypt> Where are you?
[22:37] <gordonDrogon> yea, Buckfastleigh.
[22:37] <Encrypt> Oh yes, great :)
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[22:40] <gordonDrogon> come & buy some of my bread sometime :-)
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[22:43] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, Well, we don't have a car :D
[22:43] <brethil> My raspberry pi gets stuck on boot. I tried re-flashing the microSD card but I’m having the same exact issue
[22:43] <brethil> How can I figure out what’s wrong?
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[22:44] <gordonDrogon> Encrypt, The X38 bus :)
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> Encrypt, actually, the train to Totnes might be more exciting...
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> brethil, got a monitor connected to it?
[22:45] <brethil> yeah
[22:46] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, Ok :]
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[22:46] <gordonDrogon> Encrypt, google 'totnesterone' :)
[22:47] <Encrypt> The train works pretty well btw. Unfortunately, you don't have a Hight Speed Train as we have in France (the "TGV"). Going from London to PLymouth took me 3 hours and a half.
[22:47] <Encrypt> It was quicker to go from Paris to London (<.<)
[22:48] <brethil> (uploading a photo...
[22:48] <Encrypt> High*
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[22:56] <brethil> well, this is what I’m getting
[22:56] <brethil> http://i.imgur.com/ZoeyT41.jpg
[22:56] <brethil> gets stuck on that
[22:56] <brethil> it’s a brand new (used a couple weeks) Raspberry Pi 2
[22:56] <brethil> I re-flashed the SD card and got the same thing
[22:56] <CoJaBo> Try a different card
[22:57] <gordonDrogon> is the ethernet plugged in?
[22:57] <CoJaBo> Make sure nothings plugged in USB, not even a keyboard
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[22:57] <brethil> gets stuck with nothing plugged in
[22:57] <CoJaBo> Any unplug ethernet too; sometimes NTP can hang, that'd rule that out
[22:57] <brethil> and gets stuck with a keyboard plugged in
[22:57] <brethil> I haven’t tried a different card (yet)
[22:57] <CoJaBo> Defective card, bad download of the image, or defective pi
[22:58] <brethil> It cannot be the second
[22:58] <brethil> So it’s either the first or the third
[22:58] <brethil> which both suck :|
[22:59] <CoJaBo> I've never seen a pi defective in a way that didn't fry it completely, si I figure it's very likely the first
[22:59] <brethil> do you think zeroing out the card could help?
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[22:59] <CoJaBo> Probably not; it might show an error tho if there is one
[23:00] <CoJaBo> SD cards can get flaky in very weird and hard to confirm ways
[23:00] <Berg> is that getting stuck grabing a ip?
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[23:02] <choki> Is there any image slideshow with fading effects available for the 'pi? I tried pqiv but it doesnt use the gpu so im looking for a hardware accelerated image slideshow which uses the GPU.
[23:02] <CoJaBo> That's why you unplug th ethernet
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[23:02] <brethil> I actually already backed up the full card on my computer
[23:02] <brethil> did not get any errors
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[23:03] <CoJaBo> Doesn't necessarily mean the card is good, or even that the data isn't corupt
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[23:04] <brethil> Yeah, that’s true
[23:04] <brethil> I’ll zero out the card
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[23:04] <brethil> and re-flash it with the default raspbian image
[23:04] <CoJaBo> Don't have a different one to test with?
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[23:04] <brethil> Nope
[23:04] <CoJaBo> That sucks..
[23:04] <brethil> yeah :|
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[23:05] <Berg> might have to go buy one
[23:06] <Berg> i had a spare new in packet but i lost it
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[23:06] <CoJaBo> I've miraculously never managed to lose one
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[23:06] <Berg> well im on a roll i think thats a good staRT
[23:07] <CoJaBo> So I have a ton just lying around
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[23:07] <brethil> send me one ;-)
[23:07] <Berg> send me 3
[23:07] <CoJaBo> I have a 4MB one I can spare
[23:07] <brethil> ahahah
[23:07] <Berg> had to reread that
[23:07] <CoJaBo> I thought it was defective; took me a while to figure out why it couldn't hold a 1.5GB file >_>
[23:08] <Berg> thats useless
[23:08] <Berg> heheh
[23:08] <brethil> is it a microSD?
[23:08] <brethil> 4MB microsd?
[23:08] <CoJaBo> No, full-size
[23:08] <CoJaBo> I don't think they ever made micros that small
[23:08] <Berg> we need a plug that lets you have a card reader in the micro sdslot
[23:09] <CoJaBo> I saw one once
[23:09] <Berg> i have a few of the bigger cards
[23:09] <brethil> ok ok then
[23:09] <CoJaBo> It seems like it would be quite impractical
[23:09] <brethil> I have a couple 32MB ones
[23:09] <brethil> that I used with my Nokia phones
[23:09] <CoJaBo> I think I have a 16MB too
[23:10] <brethil> they’re half-size SD cards
[23:10] <brethil> miniSD?
[23:10] <CoJaBo> Smallest micro I have I think is 512MB
[23:10] <CoJaBo> Never seen a mini
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[23:11] <Mallot1> Hello
[23:12] <Mallot1> How do I setup my Raspberry Pi 2 Model B to be able to accept HID input from an Arduino? The Arduino is already programmed and works great on Windows, but doesn't work on my Pi.
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[23:17] <gordonDrogon> I presume this is via USB?
[23:18] <gordonDrogon> plug the Arduino in, then run dmesg and see what output you get...
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[23:20] <Mallot1> gordonDrogon: Yes via USB
[23:21] <Mallot1> gordonDrogon: Alright where can I find dmesg?
[23:21] <gordonDrogon> just type it in.
[23:21] <gordonDrogon> it's a command.
[23:21] <Mallot1> gordonDrogon: In the terminal
[23:22] <Mallot1> ?
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[23:22] <Mallot1> So just open the linux terminal and type in "dmesg"?
[23:22] <brethil> I think the SD card is toast…
[23:22] <brethil> Samsung EVO my ass
[23:23] <gordonDrogon> Mallot1, yes.
[23:23] <Mallot1> gordonDrogon: Alright, be right back
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[23:26] <niston> gordonDrogon: hello sir!
[23:27] <gordonDrogon> niston, ni.
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[23:27] <gordonDrogon> *hi
[23:27] <Mallot1> gordonDrogon: Back
[23:27] <Mallot1> gordonDrogon: It just printed out information about my devices plugged into my Pi
[23:28] <gordonDrogon> maybe the Pi doesn't have the right usb drivers for it..
[23:28] <gordonDrogon> although if it's emulating a generic mouse or keyboard it ought to work.
[23:28] <Mallot1> gordonDrogon: It's an Arduino Uno that I used hoodloader to turn into a HID
[23:29] <Mallot1> gordonDrogon: It's recognized as "Arduino Hoodloader Beta". It also said that it installed a/some driver(s)
[23:29] <gordonDrogon> Mallot1, sure - but if the Pi doesn't have the driver software for it, it's not going to work.
[23:30] <Mallot1> gordonDrogon: Do you know where I can get the Arduino Drivers for the Ras Pi 2?
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[23:30] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea. try googling for making it work under debian.
[23:30] <Mallot1> Alright
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[23:59] <shiftplusone> Hexxeh: pingy ping?
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[23:59] <Hexxeh> shiftplusone: hey, sup?

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