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IRC Log for 2015-09-22

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[0:04] <KDDLB> hm
[0:04] <KDDLB> isn't there a way to get a fully offline NOOBS?
[0:08] <nid0> there is if you want raspbian
[0:08] <nid0> if you want an os other than raspbian, no
[0:09] <KDDLB> dangit
[0:09] <KDDLB> :P
[0:09] <KDDLB> anyway I have NOOBS ready for tomorrow
[0:09] <KDDLB> \o/
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[0:18] <solk> Hi everyone, my device connects PI via usb. when i connect that device to my PI it stop working, and it start working when i unplug the usb cable. Is there anyway that i can unplug the usb cable programmatically to let my device work?
[0:18] <solk> i am using BCM2835
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[0:19] <traeak> power issue?
[0:21] <solk> traeak: what do you mean about power issue?
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[0:22] <traeak> just asking if the problem is power related or not that's all
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[0:24] <solk> My external device only work when i unplug the usb cable from my PI. In my case, i want it always connect to my PI and set crontab to disconnect and connect the external device
[0:25] <solk> i have tried echo 0 > /sys/bus/devices/usb1/authorized but it does not work
[0:26] <solk> /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb1/authorized*
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[0:27] <solk> traeak: i also thing about power off the usb port but don't know how to do it
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[0:33] <Sculptor> solk, put a mosfet in series with usb5v and drive it with a gpio pin
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[0:36] <solk> Sculptor: you mean i should cut the usb cable connect two conductor to the GPIO the other two still connect to usb port?
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[0:36] <Sculptor> yes
[0:36] <Sculptor> or try to reset it
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[0:37] <Sculptor> last post http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/8435/resetting-usb-device-from-terminal
[0:40] <solk> Sculptor: Can i order mosfet on amazon and what kind i should buy, sorry that i am not good at hardware
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[0:45] <Sculptor> then try with software
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[0:51] <solk> Sculptor: thanks
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[2:40] <Berg> My granson is on his rpi2
[2:41] <Berg> he's learning hello world in python
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[2:46] <Dingo_Bob> hi
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[2:48] <exobuzz> Berg - awesome :)
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[3:16] <Berg> it is
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[3:16] <Dingo_Bob> hello
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[4:19] <uriah> if i make a usb cable with three connectors, one for the device, another for power and the last for data, can i safely connect the one for power to my laptop?
[4:19] <uriah> this is to get around the current draw limit of my raspi's usb port
[4:19] <uriah> i'm planning on plugging a usb device in that requires more current than the raspi can provide
[4:23] <pksato> uriah: if wire correct. some external hd cable have extra connector to more power.
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[4:24] <uriah> i'm just plugging a usb lte device into it
[4:24] <uriah> not an hdd
[4:24] <uriah> so there's only one port
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[4:24] <uriah> pksato: well, it's difficult to not wire a usb cable correctly ;D
[4:24] <pksato> like this http://www.hdsentinel.com/img/cases/usb-y-cable.gif
[4:25] <uriah> i mean... red goes with red, black with black (first cable), then green with green and white with white (second cable)
[4:25] <uriah> pksato: ah i see what you mean
[4:26] <pksato> dont trust on color of cable. even from same brand/buy time.
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[4:30] <uriah> pksato: :-/
[4:30] <uriah> pksato: i guess i can wire it up, only plug the power cable in, then test with multimeter...
[4:31] <uriah> that is, before soldering :P
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[4:40] <Soopaman> greetings all
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[4:40] <Soopaman> I am pulling out my hair why I can't update/upgrade my raspian build without it crashing at boot when it restarts
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[4:45] <Soopaman> any ideas?
[4:49] <exonormal> what pi do you have?
[4:49] <exonormal> Soopaman: ^^^^^^
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[4:57] <Soopaman> let me double check, I think it's a b+
[4:57] <Soopaman> are there any pcb markings that would confirm it?
[4:58] <exonormal> does it have 4 USB ports?
[4:58] <Soopaman> yep
[4:58] <exonormal> what size the SD card? standard or micro?
[4:58] <Soopaman> micro
[4:59] <exonormal> ok you have the B+ or the B-2
[4:59] <exonormal> what is plugged in the pi?
[4:59] <Soopaman> usb keyboard and ethernet
[5:00] <Soopaman> just rewrote a raspian image to the sd card, and setting it up now
[5:00] <exonormal> what does it do when it boots?
[5:00] <exonormal> ok good
[5:00] <Soopaman> the first time it's friendly - I update the host name, enable ssh, expand root and reboot
[5:01] <Soopaman> but when i apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and reboot, the pain resumes
[5:02] <exonormal> ok, before you do anything to the reflash of the SD card, just boot it up and do the update, upgrade, then update again...
[5:03] <Soopaman> so I just finished going through the initial setup (hostname, ssh, expand rfs etc)
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[5:03] <exonormal> don't do the host name, enable ssh, expand root until after all the updates
[5:03] <Soopaman> k
[5:03] <exonormal> try that first
[5:03] <Soopaman> so, restart from scratch?
[5:04] <exonormal> yes
[5:04] <Soopaman> k
[5:04] <exonormal> if it boots ok, do the updates and upgrades
[5:04] <exonormal> after those are done then re reboot
[5:05] <exonormal> what it does is set up your pi correctly...
[5:11] <Soopaman> alright, booting re-written raspbian sd
[5:12] <exonormal> after all that is done,then you can do the host name, enable ssh, expand root, etc...
[5:13] <Soopaman> so I quit out of the setup when it first boots
[5:13] <Soopaman> and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"?
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[5:14] <exonormal> yes
[5:14] <Soopaman> and then reboot?
[5:14] <exonormal> yes
[5:15] <exonormal> I would do one at a time.. update, upgrade, then update again
[5:16] <exonormal> then second update is to make sure it was not missing anything from the repo.
[5:17] <exonormal> sometimes the downloads hiccup.. so to make sure you have all of what s needed, the second update is like insurance..
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[5:20] <Soopaman> so "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade"
[5:20] <Soopaman> to make sure it worked the first time
[5:21] <exonormal> lol, no, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get update.
[5:22] <exonormal> that's one at a time.. what you typed is two at a time.
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[5:22] <exonormal> the && just makes two tasks into one command.
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[5:26] <Soopaman> k
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[5:32] <Soopaman> finished upgrade, running second update
[5:33] <Soopaman> run a second upgrade?
[5:34] <exonormal> no, no need to..
[5:34] <Soopaman> k, so shall I reboot?
[5:34] <exonormal> after the second update, reboot..
[5:35] <exonormal> yes
[5:35] * Soopaman crosses fingers and reboot
[5:35] <Soopaman> s
[5:35] <exonormal> it'll be fine
[5:36] <exonormal> after it reboots, then you can do your stuff in raspi-config...
[5:36] <Soopaman> it usually dies here, so I'll be happy, and baffled, if it works
[5:36] <exonormal> well did it reboot ok?
[5:37] <Soopaman> long pausing at the "cleaning /tmp | loading kernel module "snd-bcn2835"
[5:37] <Soopaman> it usually dies here
[5:37] <exonormal> ok, you using ethernet for online?
[5:38] <Soopaman> for the updates, since the ssh isn't set up yet
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[5:38] <exonormal> did it boot ok?
[5:38] <Soopaman> still paused at the same part
[5:39] <exonormal> hmmm....
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[5:39] <exonormal> what class it the SD card?
[5:39] <exonormal> *is
[5:39] <Soopaman> crashed
[5:39] <exonormal> sorry
[5:40] <Soopaman> 8gb, class 10
[5:40] <Soopaman> sdhc
[5:40] <Soopaman> patriot brand
[5:40] <exonormal> ok that's good.
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[5:41] <Soopaman> honestly, at a loss here
[5:41] <exonormal> where did you get the raspbian image?
[5:41] <Soopaman> it just doesn't make sense why it doesn't work
[5:41] <Soopaman> off the site
[5:41] <exonormal> no it doesn't
[5:42] <Soopaman> rpi.org/downloads/raspbian
[5:42] <exonormal> ok try the noobs down load and use that
[5:42] <Soopaman> i don't want a gui though
[5:43] <exonormal> ahh, ok.. then you'd have to go to a more guru user, like [Saint_], shiftplusone, almostworking, and niston..... they will know how to fix it for you.
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[5:44] <Soopaman> I take it they are daytime users?
[5:44] <exonormal> I am just a standard pi user and do not know any more stuff than a noob.
[5:44] <Soopaman> k
[5:44] <exonormal> they are hard to catch...
[5:44] <exonormal> they show up randomly
[5:45] <exonormal> niston is in Switzerland
[5:45] <exonormal> dunno where the other 3 are...
[5:45] <Soopaman> gotcha
[5:46] <exonormal> try a different SD card...
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[5:46] <Soopaman> k
[5:46] <exonormal> I have 6 pi's
[5:47] <exonormal> but I do not know much.. lol
[5:47] <Soopaman> heheh, and I'm a lfs guy, but can't figure out why I can't harden a setup script for a rpi
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[5:47] <exonormal> I never had a problem with them... so I guess I am very lucky...
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[5:48] <exonormal> on my pi B-2 I have Ubuntu 15.04 on it
[5:48] <exonormal> I love it...
[5:49] <exonormal> works so nicely.
[5:49] <Soopaman> any wifi modules?
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[5:49] <exonormal> yes, I use Ourlink modules from Adafruit.com
[5:50] <Soopaman> bt4?
[5:50] <exonormal> the thumbdrive size ones, not the tiny ones
[5:50] <exonormal> bt4?? what is that?
[5:50] <exonormal> that's new to me
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[5:51] <Soopaman> bluetooth 4
[5:51] <exonormal> I don't know.. I can get link for you...
[5:53] <exonormal> just a minute...
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[5:55] <exonormal> this is what I use on all of my pi's... they are failproof. http://www.adafruit.com/products/1012
[5:55] <exonormal> very strong units
[5:56] <exonormal> and well worth the money spent on them.
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[6:07] <exonormal> well my time is up.. good night...
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[6:35] <Peppi> hello
[6:35] <Peppi> does anyone see anything wrong with this? http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?764493&download
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[6:42] <CoJaBo> Peppi: ..it's blank?
[6:43] <Peppi> CoJaBo: what is blank?
[6:43] <Peppi> the link?
[6:43] <Peppi> try again
[6:43] <Peppi> http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?764493
[6:43] <CoJaBo> Still blank
[6:43] <Peppi> well not blank for me
[6:43] <Peppi> anyone can see this?
[6:43] <CoJaBo> pastie.org ?
[6:44] <Peppi> http://pastie.org/10436825
[6:45] <CoJaBo> ..is root supposed to be full?
[6:47] <Peppi> no it's not
[6:47] <Peppi> what's going on?
[6:48] <CoJaBo> Did you expand the filesesyerm?
[6:48] <CoJaBo> run raspi-config
[6:49] <CoJaBo> sudo raspi-config
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[6:53] <Peppi> ya I ran it
[6:53] <CoJaBo> the expand option?
[6:53] <Peppi> the card is only 2GB
[6:53] <Peppi> aka 1.7GB
[6:54] <CoJaBo> ..ah, that may be too small then
[6:54] <CoJaBo> Unless you can deal with basically no free space
[6:54] <Peppi> ya well don't think I need any space
[6:54] <Peppi> I'm just using transmission
[6:55] <Peppi> and mounting to a NAS
[6:55] <Peppi> I rebotted and now I'm at 99%
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[8:36] <niston> omg
[8:36] <niston> DisplayLink now has official Linux support
[8:37] <niston> http://support.displaylink.com/forums/287786-displaylink-feature-suggestions/suggestions/7988955-support-linux-on-all-your-devices
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[10:53] <Chetic> (Raspbian:) I have 0 displays in /tmp/.X11-unix. How can I create/get one?
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[10:58] <SopaXT> I want to force turbo! What if I patch the cpufreq driver to not set the warranty bit?
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[11:04] <Chetic> Started X and that created a display in /tmp/.X11-unix. But I was really just trying to start X applications over SSH, and that turned out to work if I set DISPLAY=:10 (sshd uses an offset of 10 according to /etc/ssh/sshd_config)
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[12:17] <torpor> has anyone here got the official rPi touchscreen?
[12:17] <torpor> i got mine assembled but its not working
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[12:18] <at0m> which part "isnt working"
[12:18] <torpor> and i only have OSMC to boot - is there a way to tell OSMC to use the external display, or something? (Don't have a card big enough for Raspian...)
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[12:18] <torpor> so i've got it assembled, and the display board is driving the rpi - the rpi boots. so that cable works. but i boot to OSMC and see nothing on the display - should i at least see the display power up a bit automatically, or does this need to be triggered by software somehow?
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[12:19] <torpor> (fresh install of OSMC from NOOBS onto a 2gig SD card)
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[12:20] <Myrtti> using Raspbian with the touch screen the system needed to be upgraded for the touch to work
[12:20] <torpor> right thats what makes me think i'm out of luck until i can boot raspian
[12:20] <Myrtti> and I remember reading somewhere that at that point only Raspbian was supported
[12:20] <Myrtti> obvs I can easily be wrong
[12:21] <torpor> so i'll try to install raspian on another external hard drive and boot it then
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[13:03] <Diogo> hi, any good microphone for raspberry pi for voice recognition
[13:04] <Diogo> ?
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[13:04] <Diogo> small one
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[13:04] <ShorTie> 1st you need a sound card/device, no audio input on pi
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[13:16] <knob> Hello hello! Good morning/afternoon/evening all!!
[13:16] <knob> =)
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[13:46] <torpor> ok got my display working with raspian ..
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[14:07] <KDDLB> lol
[14:07] <KDDLB> the mail company doesn't want to send me the PI ki
[14:07] <KDDLB> kit
[14:07] <KDDLB> they claim it has a lithium battery
[14:07] <KDDLB> which it doesn't have
[14:10] <nid0> what kit?
[14:10] <KDDLB> canakit ultimate
[14:11] <KDDLB> http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Complete-Original-Preloaded/dp/B008XVAVAW
[14:11] <nid0> how/why do they think it has a battery in it?
[14:11] <KDDLB> probably x-ray scanning
[14:11] <nid0> seems unlikely
[14:12] <KDDLB> so, now they have to ship it through land
[14:12] <turtlehat> the red power led only flashes if the supply voltage drops too low, right?
[14:13] <turtlehat> i mean, theres no other reason it would flash?
[14:14] <turtlehat> (rpi2)
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[14:36] <greyline> hy everybody
[14:37] <greyline> is that normal if the gnd and 3v3 pins of the raspberry pi model b doesn't give energy?
[14:37] <greyline> I have measured that with multimeter and it's totally off
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[14:40] <shiftplusone> greyline: depends on what you mean by doesn't give energy and what you actually measured
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[14:50] <greyline> shiftplusone: I'm back
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[14:51] <greyline> shiftplusone: I get 0.0v on 3v3 and gnd
[14:51] <shiftplusone> If you're saying that measuring between 3v3 and gnd gives you 0v, then yeah that's a problem.
[14:52] <shiftplusone> I'd check that you have the right pins
[14:52] <greyline> https://superpiboy.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/raspberry-pi-rev2-gpio-pinout.jpg
[14:52] <greyline> shiftplusone: according to this, yes
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[14:53] <shiftplusone> yeah, looks accurate at first glance
[14:53] <shiftplusone> But if you really had nothing there, the pi wouldn't work
[14:53] <shiftplusone> are you seeing 5v on the 5v line?
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[15:12] <greyline> shiftplusone: the problem was I thought that a led should be lighting on the lsm9ds0, and the multimeter setting was bad
[15:12] <greyline> shiftplusone: another problem
[15:12] <greyline> https://bpaste.net/show/6be0daf01ca1
[15:12] <greyline> I get this error, when I try to read from an i2c device
[15:12] <shiftplusone> do you have i2c enabled and i2c-dev loaded?
[15:14] <torpor> ok i have my touchscreen working .. anyone familiary with kivy here?
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[15:25] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[15:34] <KDDLB> got an answer from the mail company
[15:34] <KDDLB> it gets shipped tomorrow via ground
[15:34] <KDDLB> ;_;
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[15:35] <Tenkawa> KDDLB: sounds like you aren't having good luck
[15:35] <KDDLB> yeah
[15:35] <KDDLB> they said they couldn't ship it via air
[15:35] <KDDLB> because of a "lithium battery"
[15:35] <Tenkawa> really?
[15:35] <Tenkawa> staying in same country?
[15:36] <Tenkawa> i would think they ship lion batteries all the time..
[15:36] <KDDLB> it shipped from the US to Chile w/o problems
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[15:36] <greyline> shiftplusone: the problem was that I have used bad i2c address :D
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[16:04] <Tenkawa> very quiet today
[16:05] <KDDLB> yup
[16:06] <teclo-> yeah
[16:06] <Armand> Ssshhhh!!
[16:06] <teclo-> I guess people are busy
[16:06] <Armand> You'll wake the zombies!
[16:06] <Tenkawa> Armand: noooooo.... not "them"!!!
[16:06] <Armand> Yeah... blasted Windows users. �_�
[16:07] * Tenkawa gets his gear ready for the takeover defense
[16:07] <Tenkawa> be an interesting theme to go with a rpg scenario
[16:09] <Armand> Just call it "Jade Helm"....
[16:09] <Tenkawa> heheheh
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[16:09] <KDDLB> yeah so the mail company basically will take longer to deliver my Pi :'(
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[16:22] <Tenkawa> bbl... cheers all
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[16:23] <sd1001> Hello! Which kernel module(s) are needed for the sense-hat ro be recognized by linux as a frambuffer device?
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[16:24] <teclo-> yeah wait, I got a question
[16:24] <teclo-> is it a good idea to power the Raspberry Pi with a USB cable from a powered USB hub ?
[16:25] <gordonDrogon> teclo-, if you connect into the �USB socket on the Pi it should work fine as long as the hub can supply enough power.
[16:27] <teclo-> gordonDrogon: ah ok
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[16:28] <both> Hi. I'd like to connect TTF103 thermistor to the RPi2 ModelB v1.1 board. Where to connect it?
[16:28] <both> TTF103 thermistor: http://www.overclockers.ru/images/lab/2009/10/15/44_ttf-103.jpg
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[16:38] <gordonDrogon> both, you need some sort of analog to digital converter to connect it to.
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[16:44] <saraf> hi! I have purchased a LCD display breakout for connecting to the i2c bus on the pi 2 B - https://international.switch-science.com/catalog/1516/ ... however i2cdetect is not finding it ... what options do I have for proceeding?
[16:46] <shauno> are you trying / have you tried i2cdetect -y 1 ?
[16:46] <saraf> yes
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[16:47] <saraf> that, as well as sudo i2cdetect 1
[16:49] <ToRA_> anyone know of a fingerprint reader for rpi?
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[16:52] <both> gordonDrogon: do you know any digital converters, where I could connect multiple thermistors at once?
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> both: there are thousands of ADCs with >1 input
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> both: why specifically a thermistor?
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[16:53] <SpeedEvil> both: also - you'd need a datasheet for the actual thermistor
[16:55] <both> SpeedEvil: I want to collect temperature data from 3 different places, so maybe another solution is better for that.
[16:55] <SpeedEvil> both: what sort of places?
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[16:57] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DS18B20-18B20-1-WIRE-Digital-Thermometer-in-waterproof-casing-BRAND-NEW-UK-STOCK-/190784248550?hash=item2c6ba09ae6 - for example can be much easier to interface
[16:58] <both> SpeedEvil: just room, water or outside (-100 +100)
[16:58] <SpeedEvil> -100?
[16:58] <SpeedEvil> Do you live on the moon?
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[17:00] <both> SpeedEvil: no. -55°C to +125°C should be OK
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[17:00] <SpeedEvil> http://blog.gegg.us/2013/03/4-different-methods-of-1-wire-access-on-raspberry-pi/
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[17:01] <both> how to connect DS18B20 to RPi2?
[17:01] <SpeedEvil> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/temperature/
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[17:02] <SpeedEvil> one 4.7K resistor and wires
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[17:05] <both> SpeedEvil: is LM35DZ sensor similar to DS18B20?
[17:06] <both> LM35DZ sensor: http://snootlab.com/108-1361-thickbox/temperature-sensor-lm35dz.jpg
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[17:09] <SpeedEvil> Protip.
[17:09] <SpeedEvil> Pictures of components are almost never useful.
[17:09] <SpeedEvil> Datasheets are.
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[17:10] <IT_Sean> But... datasheets don't tell you how shiny it is! :p
[17:10] <SpeedEvil> http://www.futurlec.com/Datasheet/Linear/LM35DZ.pdf
[17:11] <SpeedEvil> The first line says 'whos output voltage is linear...'
[17:11] <SpeedEvil> so it's an analog part
[17:11] <SpeedEvil> and needs an ADC
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[17:21] <both> SpeedEvil: what type of connectors will I need to connect wires (from DS18B20) to the RPi2?
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[17:23] <SpeedEvil> https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-prototyping-pi-plate - for example for quick prototyping
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[17:24] <SpeedEvil> http://www.amazon.com/Adafruit-Cobbler-Breakout-Kit-Raspberry/dp/B00EBXP3R2
[17:24] <SpeedEvil> (I am not looking in detail at thes)
[17:25] <SpeedEvil> As a general point - a soldering iron and knowing how to work it is a very good plan
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[17:33] <both> SpeedEvil: I don't have problems with soldering, but is this OK to connect DS18B20 with RPi2:
[17:33] <both> http://www.hobbyrc.co.uk/content/images/thumbs/0000546_4pcs-200mm-dupont-single-pin-to-pin-1p-connector-wire.jpeg
[17:33] <SpeedEvil> yes
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[17:49] <Includes08> Is anyone familiar with concerto, its digital signage and its accesible from browsers as well. I had this idea to run it on raspbian in a midori browser but i get nothing while it just works on everything else ( eg my laptop with chrome ) what am i missing?
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[17:50] <Includes08> If i use google chrome i get a black screen so i am missing plugins, but as far as i know it runs html5
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[17:51] <both> SpeedEvil: so what I need is DS18B20 + 4.7k Ohm resistor + connectors for the resistor + 3 x wire connectors between sensor (with resistor) and RPi2, right?
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[18:07] <SpeedEvil> something like that, yes.
[18:08] <SpeedEvil> you may find it hard to connect the resistor with those connectors
[18:08] <SpeedEvil> unless you strip the middle and wire it in
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[18:14] <both> SpeedEvil: thank you :)
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[18:17] <Hasselsaurus> Hey, does anyone know if there's a thread/channel for people working on the Adafruit rpi-rgb-led-matrix kit and software? Would love to chat with other people working on similar projects.
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[18:24] <sd1001> Hello! I have an rpi model B and a sense-hat (astro-pi). I have added dtoverlay=rpi-sense to /boot/config.txt, but what do I else need to make it work™ and make the LED show up as a framebuffer device?
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[18:25] <shiftplusone> sd1001: that should be it
[18:25] <shiftplusone> sd1001: do the LEDs stay on when you boot?
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[18:26] <sd1001> They do, and display the rainbow.
[18:26] <sd1001> Is it important that it is plugged in during the whole boot time?
[18:26] <shiftplusone> yes, it's not hotpluggable
[18:26] <shiftplusone> It must be plugged in all the time
[18:27] <sd1001> Oh, that might be the problem, since my connection is a bit loose :P
[18:30] <sd1001> shiftplusone: Thanks, O'll try again when I've set it upp more stable
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[18:45] <Includes08> Is anyone familiar with concerto, its digital signage and its accesible from browsers as well. I had this idea to run it on raspbian in a midori browser but i get nothing while it just works on everything else ( eg my laptop with chrome ) what am i missing?
[18:45] <Includes08> If i use google chrome i get a black screen so i am missing plugins, but as far as i know it runs html5
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[19:08] <ali1234> Includes08: the browser on raspberry pi is "special"
[19:09] <ali1234> raspberry pi itself is absolutely perfect for digital signage
[19:09] <ali1234> but doing it with the overhead of a browser and X11 isn't a great way to go about it
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[19:12] <Includes08> can we talk private you seem to have some knowledge just annoyed by the join/leave feed
[19:13] <Includes08> ali1234,
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[19:13] <ali1234> if you insist
[19:14] <ali1234> i worked in digital signage for like 4 years, this was 10 years ago when it barely existed
[19:14] <ali1234> we had to make everything up as we went
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[19:15] <Votato> Hai! I am building a robot. I'm not sure how to mount the wheels onto the motors.
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[19:15] <Votato> http://i.imgur.com/oIhCczL.jpg (wheel and motor in shot), I have 2 wheels, axles and motors.
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[19:32] <kakashiAL> there are many securtiy camera tutorials with raspberry
[19:33] <kakashiAL> but why does all the devs uses png or jpg frames and send those to the client?
[19:33] <kakashiAL> why dont they use mp4 or flv and send this to the client?
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[19:35] <Tenkawa> isnt still frame typical for security camera snapshots?
[19:35] <Tenkawa> instead of animated
[19:37] <kakashiAL> I want realtime pictures
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[19:38] <Tenkawa> whats not realtime about those?
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[19:39] <kakashiAL> Tenkawa: nothing, but why dont they use mp4 or flv or another video codec?
[19:39] <kakashiAL> why do they use pictures?
[19:39] <Tenkawa> good question
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[19:40] <Tenkawa> the key is though still vs animated... both should be doable
[19:40] <Tenkawa> animated would take a lot more resources
[19:40] <kakashiAL> all the examples that I know where animated
[19:40] <kakashiAL> so thats not the problem
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[19:41] <kakashiAL> just dont understand why they using a buffer or a stream of pngs
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[19:43] <Tenkawa> Any of you running *BSD on a pi2 much?
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[19:47] <waveform> kakashiAL, I suspect it's mostly down to the difficulty of decoding video on the client side in a manner compatible with all clients (up until very recently MP4 was not universally supported in browsers, and for that matter the Pi's camera doesn't about an MP4 stream; it outputs an H264 NAL stream which is not quite the same thing)
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[19:48] <waveform> kakashiAL, if you want to look at something which streams actual video to a remote client, have a look at pistreaming (https://github.com/waveform80/pistreaming) which was a little proof of concept I hacked together for trying out "proper" video transmission
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[19:48] <waveform> that said ... it does use MPG1 ... (the README should explain stuff ;)
[19:48] <kakashiAL> waveform: so with other words, they use pngs because of the bad client/browser support?
[19:49] <waveform> well ... they're probably using PNGs because they don't know any better (PNGs are *slow* with the camera - no hardware encoding support - JPEG is vastly quicker)
[19:49] <kakashiAL> I saw both options
[19:49] <waveform> but more generally I have seen everyone using MJPEG (which is hardware supported) just because it's trivial to strip frames out of it at the other end for display / processing
[19:50] <waveform> what I'd really like to see is a method for wrapping the H264 NAL stream from the camera in a proper MP4 container on the fly (MP4Box will do it, but only with a complete output file which is obviously no good for streaming)
[19:50] <kakashiAL> why not directly mpeg or avi or flash?
[19:50] <waveform> unfortunately it's not something I've got any time to work on (already way behind with the next release of picamera!)
[19:51] <ShadowJK> would ffmpeg do it?
[19:51] <waveform> quite simply because the camera doesn't produce them. The only hardware supported output formats are MJPEG and the aforementioned H.264 NAL stream.
[19:51] <waveform> ffmpeg can do it, the question is how fast can it transcode the output when it's CPU based
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[19:52] <waveform> (incidentally, that's exactly what pistreaming does under the covers - it fires up an ffmpeg instance and feeds it unencoded YUV from the camera for transcoding to MPEG1 then ships that over websockets to the clietns)
[19:52] <kakashiAL> waveform: and let me guess: there is bad browser support for mjpeg
[19:53] <waveform> basically non-existent
[19:53] <waveform> (most browsers interpret it, quite reasonably, as a single JPEG and just display the first frame as an image)
[19:53] <ShadowJK> No I mean mux nal into mp4 container without transcoding
[19:53] <kakashiAL> and thats why they transform it to jpg or pngs because its easier to do that in mp4
[19:54] <waveform> ShadowJK, ahhh ... I've heard that later versions of ffmpeg are indeed capable of this. The version that currently ships with raspbian can't however (some issue with PTS IIRC)
[19:54] <waveform> kakashiAL, that's the size of it
[19:55] <kakashiAL> waveform: what do you mean with "thats the size of it"?:)
[19:56] <waveform> kakashiAL, I mean yes - that's basically the reason, i.e. people use JPEG / PNG because there's no good client support for the video formats directly produced by the camera
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[19:56] <kakashiAL> waveform: but whats about the build in flash or html5 video players?
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[19:57] <waveform> no idea about flash - wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. As for the built-in html5 video players they generally expect an MPEG transport stream, not a raw H264 NAL stream
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[19:58] <kakashiAL> waveform: so why dont they transform MJPEG to MPEG and send that?
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[19:58] <kakashiAL> or H264 to MPEG
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[19:59] <waveform> kakashiAL, because they don't know how? It is possible (as mentioned, that's basically what pistreaming does)
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[20:00] <kakashiAL> I have my pi here with my hd usb cam, want to try something out with it :)
[20:01] <kakashiAL> so I need a lot of more basics knowledge :)
[20:01] <ant_thomas> Is it possible to wrap the H264 stream as some sort of mpeg-ts stream (similar to DVB) using avconv/ffmpeg?
[20:01] <ant_thomas> *DVB
[20:01] <waveform> kakashiAL, ah, well there I can't help much (I only really deal with the Pi's camera module). I've heard the higher end USB cameras are capable of outputting MPEG transport streams themselves but I've no idea how that works in practice
[20:02] <waveform> ant_thomas, I've heard that it's possible on versions later than that currently shipped with Raspbian, so, yes
[20:02] <kakashiAL> http://www.airlive.com/uploads/byself/NVR8-icon_app05.jpg
[20:03] <waveform> ant_thomas, ... but at the moment it'll involve building a custom ffmpeg (which is an *extremely* long build)
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[20:04] <ant_thomas> Yeah, especially on the pi! Just thinking if it's possible to wrap the H264 stream on another system. What's the lowest latency method of sending the H264 stream to another system? (with ffmpeg to do the wrapping). My idea might be totally impractical though
[20:05] <waveform> ant_thomas, simple - just bung it over a straight socket (TCP, UDP, won't matter much assuming the network's half-way decent)
[20:05] <ShadowJK> The thing called "flash" was a modified mpeg4 container, and possibly containing sorenson video, which was a slightly modified h263 video codec. iirc.
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[20:06] <ShadowJK> These days all flash does is play mpeg4/h264
[20:06] <ant_thomas> waveform, would piping it over a port do the job? (all wired LAN)
[20:07] <waveform> ant_thomas, sure - that's all some of the recipes in the picamera docs do: http://picamera.readthedocs.org/en/release-1.10/recipes1.html#recording-to-a-network-stream
[20:07] <waveform> ant_thomas, incidentally I would also recommend reading this entry in the FAQ: http://picamera.readthedocs.org/en/release-1.10/faq.html#why-is-there-so-much-latency-when-streaming-video
[20:08] <waveform> (because I get *waaay* too much e-mail about this stuff! ;)
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[20:12] <ant_thomas> waveform: very very useful, thanks!
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[20:13] <waveform> no prob :)
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[20:28] <ant_thomas> waveform: thanks again for those pointers. I gave up a while back looking for such a simple way to broadcast the picam. Low res and bitrate netcatting nicely over wifi
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[20:35] <waveform> ant_thomas, I'd recommend having a look at pistreaming as well - it's crude and low-res but works rather well even with multiple simultaneous clients
[20:36] <waveform> https://github.com/waveform80/pistreaming
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[20:36] <waveform> not to mention the code's quite interesting - demonstrates several techniques like streaming through an ffmpeg process in a background thread, tying together an HTTP server and a websockets server in a Python process, blah blah
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[20:37] <Sculptor> old 40 wire 40 pin IDE cables make a great ambient for module testing
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[20:39] <sd1001> As long as you remember that left and right are left and right
[20:39] <sd1001> I wanted to connect a HAT with it, which obviously doesn't work due to to top/down side reverting
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[20:41] <Sculptor> hang on a second
[20:42] <Sculptor> http://embedded101.com/Portals/0/SunBlogNuke/2/Windows-Live-Writer/Windows-10-IoT-GPIO-Samples_F01C/image_11.png
[20:42] <Sculptor> i used that image
[20:42] <Sculptor> that's the top view
[20:42] <Sculptor> red ide cable wire goes on PIN1
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[21:16] <psiklops> hi
[21:18] <psiklops> Are there any Sonic_Pi manpages or similar detailed documentation around ?
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[21:25] <shiftplusone> psiklops: the closest I can find... http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/sonicpi/media/sonic-pi-cheatsheet.pdf
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[21:39] <rlf> is there some OCR library for the pi; for example if I have a camera attached and I show it some ID card with a number on it; can I get that number programaticaly?
[21:39] <KDDLB> I haven't tinkered with libraries
[21:39] <waveform> rlf, there's a few general open source ones. I think I played with something called tesseract-ocr a while back
[21:39] <KDDLB> tesseract, yes
[21:40] <KDDLB> https://github.com/tesseract-ocr
[21:40] <rlf> sweet, thank you guys
[21:40] <waveform> don't expect miracles from it though - I seem to remember the conclusion I came to was that at least in the OCR realm there's a fair gap between open-source and commercial stuff still
[21:41] <waveform> (not to say it's useless, but the error rate is more than you'd want for doing full documents!)
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[21:42] <rlf> yeah I was actually surprised that there is an open source one
[21:42] <waveform> I'm pretty sure it's already packaged on Raspbian too - so you can just "sudo apt-get install tesseract-ocr" (and then whatever lang packs you want "apt-cache search tesseract" will show you all those)
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[21:43] <rlf> tbh I suppose it will do fine with numbers
[21:43] <rlf> thank god I don't need to read words :D
[21:43] <waveform> yeah, that's probably a reasonable assumption
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[22:10] <Tenkawa> yay back on my primary box
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[22:11] <Tenkawa> (workstation usage)
[22:11] <Tenkawa> was getting annoying carrying around so much hardware
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[22:21] <SopaXT> I want to force turbo! What if I patch the cpufreq driver to not set the warranty bit?
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[22:28] <shiftplusone> SopaXT: try
[22:29] <SopaXT> Muhahahahahawr! Hello, Element14!
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[22:32] <NedScott> so, this sucks
[22:32] <NedScott> I've spent hours working on converting a Gameboy DSi XL into a Pi portable
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[22:32] <NedScott> shaving plastic, cutting parts off of the Pi 2, reading about different parts, ordering different parts, gluing things
[22:32] <NedScott> soldering, oh man the soldering
[22:33] <NedScott> and now I'm looking at this Amazon Fire Phone that I bought because it was cheap and it acme with a year of prime (making it basically $30)
[22:33] <SopaXT> NedScott, why did you cut your Pi?
[22:33] <NedScott> and it can do everything I was going to do, for cheaper, faster, and with a better screen
[22:34] <SopaXT> Trying to build something?
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[22:34] <NedScott> it has a built-in battery, 720 screen, stereo speakers, fast CPU, thin enough to be the same thickness as the top lid
[22:34] <NedScott> yeah, making it thinner
[22:34] <NedScott> but, even though it would be more practical to make this out of a phone, I feel like I should finish the Pi-version
[22:35] <NedScott> it just sucks when something else flops into my life and I go "huh, well, I could have used that and saved a few days of work..."
[22:35] <NedScott> :)
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[22:49] <turtlehat> im trying to compile my own realtime kernel from the newest sources on github, and apply the realtime patch, but the realtime patch is for version 4.1.7 and the kernel sources are (supposedly) 4.1.8
[22:49] <turtlehat> could anyone hint me to how i downgrade the sources?
[22:49] * turtlehat is a newb
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[22:57] <shiftplusone> turtlehat: try git checkout 0c5c1f1a4f991ee015da85cce6d2d9f9c9380b4f
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[22:58] <turtlehat> thanks a bunch, shiftplusone
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[22:59] <shiftplusone> np
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[23:21] <Flipo> Hello, anyone knows a way to display the framerate in omxplayer ? I'm trying to play 60fps video and it seems to work fine but I want to confirm it's really at 60fps
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[23:50] <turtlehat> when trying to "make bc2709_defconfig" i get cant find default configuration in arch/arm/config
[23:51] <turtlehat> shiftplusone, do you perhaps know how to solve this too? :D
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[23:51] <shiftplusone> because you have a typo there
[23:52] <turtlehat> no its just here i have a typo
[23:52] <turtlehat> i ls'ed the folder, and its not there
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[23:52] <turtlehat> only bcm_defconfig and bcm2835_defconfig
[23:53] <shiftplusone> sec
[23:58] <shiftplusone> I wonder if 4.1.7 was before pi work on 4.1.x started
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[23:59] <shiftplusone> Nope.... 9 days ago, apparantly
[23:59] <shiftplusone> The patch doesn't apply?
[23:59] * cybr1d (~cybr1d@unaffiliated/cybr1d) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

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