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IRC Log for 2015-10-10

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[0:00] <beergear> I use an old single core desktop as a router, a couple gigabit cards and it works fantastic.
[0:00] <Thayli> so if you want to use your own router, you either have to cascade it "behind" the ISP router, or you have no TV & phone
[0:00] <ozzzy> Thayli, yep.... phone, tv, internet... all-in-one
[0:00] <Thayli> I fucking hate that trend
[0:00] <beergear> Thayli: a lot of times your ISP will have an 'approved' list of modems for your line. Usually nothing stopping you from getting your own.
[0:00] <supersmilers> too bad I gave away my old desktops and let me see if ASUS is on open wrt list
[0:01] <Thayli> beergear: not the case here, it's their way or the highway
[0:01] <beergear> :( ouch
[0:01] <Thayli> can't even put it in bridge mode anymore either afaik
[0:02] <ozzzy> by putting everything on one line it keeps the wire count down
[0:02] <Thayli> true, but the problem with ISP routers is that they make them very cheap, so weak specs and little to no options available
[0:03] <Thayli> also, no local interface, you can only access the settings through my ISPs web service
[0:03] <Thayli> which is retarded imo
[0:03] <Berg> use own router?
[0:04] <ozzzy> Bell buys decent routers
[0:04] <Thayli> not possible unless cascading
[0:04] <Berg> that sounds like big brother
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[0:07] <Thayli> anyways, what would be the use of an onion pi router, just route the entire network through tor?
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[0:53] <vol4ko> can we expect a new version soon? I am wondering if i can buy now or just wait one month or so
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[0:54] <Thayli> new version? new pi model, you mean?
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[0:55] <vol4ko> yes
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[0:56] <Thayli> hmm, I was going to buy a bunch, but it might be better to wait then
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[0:58] <methuzla> vol4ko doubtful. the pi foundation is not apple. no reason not to but now.
[0:59] <methuzla> *buy
[1:00] <vol4ko> I see pi's on ebay, should i get one from there? Not sure if those ones are fake!
[1:00] <Berg> appl3e has a new product every 30 seconds and the last one you bought no longer supported no cases no batteries nothing
[1:01] <Berg> i love apple
[1:01] <Berg> if you gonaq buy a pi get it from acredited agent i bought one off ebay paid the same price but it was not so good
[1:02] <Berg> had to waitr 3weeks delivery too
[1:03] <Thayli> the pi is not a sizeable investment, I agree that you should buy one from retail tbh
[1:03] <vol4ko> thats right :)
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[1:04] <Thayli> easiest is to buy a kit, so you don't have to buy your SD, charger, etc.. seperately and check for incompatibilities
[1:04] <vol4ko> I was thinking to do that
[1:04] <vol4ko> Have you ever heard about bananapi? Just started to research about rasppi and it have competition
[1:04] <Berg> I never had a sdcard not be compatabler
[1:05] <Berg> there is orange pi too
[1:05] <Thayli> Berg: apparently there's a bunch that are really finnicky for the pi to get to work, lots of booting problems
[1:05] <Berg> ok
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[1:05] <Berg> just never haD that
[1:06] <Berg> you have any brand names Thayli
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[1:06] <Thayli> not really, I bought a kit with a Samsung SD card, works fine. But I recall the wiki mentioning a bunch of incompatible hardware
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[1:07] <Berg> are these related with burning the im age from a win machine?
[1:07] <Thayli> also vol4ko, personally I don't think the competitors are worth getting atm, they're less popular and as such have smaller communities, less support and not as many projects associated with them
[1:07] <Berg> or apple
[1:07] <Thayli> Berg: afaik no, it's the pi struggling to use them as a bootable medium
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[1:07] <Berg> ok
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[1:08] <Thayli> imo, you should stick with either Raspberry Pi, Arduino or Beagle, those seem to be the 3 biggest
[1:08] <Thayli> anything else will probably not even have half the community compared to one of those 3
[1:09] <Berg> i look at the images on the web of these so called better clones and i always notice the soldering is untiday and other things look shabby
[1:09] <Thayli> yeah, not worth it, it's not like the pi is expensive
[1:10] <Berg> i think that some cost a lo9t more too
[1:10] <Berg> anyway my 2 cents worth
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[1:10] <vol4ko> yes, i really like pi. Especially i want to run it as my linux server i dont look for real power but just for fun
[1:10] <Berg> i have 4 rpi2
[1:11] <Thayli> that's what I use it for atm, I have one older B model that I use as an irc bouncer and data server
[1:11] <Thayli> probably going to buy 4-5 raspi 2s for some networking purposes, though
[1:11] <Berg> one china clone = dead and 3 from element14 all good
[1:11] <Thayli> mine was from element14 too, all good
[1:11] <Berg> yes
[1:12] <Thayli> except it took a while, but I bought it fairly close to release :P
[1:12] <Berg> they deliver in 2 days
[1:12] <Berg> they had stock
[1:13] <vol4ko> Good! Do you load OS from hdd or sd?
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[1:13] <Berg> pi boots from sdcard
[1:14] <Berg> i use rasbian
[1:14] <Berg> raspbian
[1:14] <Berg> i tried a few other os
[1:14] <Berg> kodi is sweet if you wona media system
[1:15] <Thayli> tried Raspian & Gentoo, running Arch on mine now
[1:15] <vol4ko> can i only load something like debian server without gui? the server version...
[1:15] <Thayli> I would not recommend loading an OS from a HDD on the pi
[1:15] <Thayli> vol4ko: yeah, it's called a "headless install", it's a lot faster than using a GUI on the pi
[1:16] <Thayli> it's a bit different depending on what distro or OS you choose, but a google should net you a few guides for whatever OS you choose
[1:16] <Berg> you can install minibian its got nothing but a root login
[1:16] <Berg> its very basic but you only add what you need
[1:16] <Thayli> or Arch, nothing but core and you build it up however you want
[1:17] <Thayli> Gentoo as well, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you really know what you're doing, and have another machine to cross compile
[1:17] <Berg> see you can have anything realy
[1:17] <Berg> compiling on rpi is slow
[1:17] <Thayli> you *could* compile your own kernel and make your own distro :P
[1:17] <Berg> hehehe
[1:17] <Thayli> you *could* build your own raspberry pi, even
[1:18] <Berg> that would be a clone then?
[1:18] <Berg> i warned against clones
[1:18] <vol4ko> Thayli, why not loading via hdd?
[1:19] <Thayli> vol4ko: raspi has no SATA or other high-speed busses for HDs, so that would mean USB connection only
[1:19] <Thayli> and usb is slow
[1:19] <Berg> the dietpi has the tools to use USB hard drive
[1:20] <Thayli> I would still not recomend it, even with USB 3.0 it's going to be stupidly slow
[1:20] <Berg> pi has usb2
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[1:21] <Thayli> pi 2 has usb 2.0, not 3.0?
[1:21] <Berg> i had a dog name usb2 i shot it
[1:21] <Berg> nope
[1:21] <Berg> only usb2
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[1:21] * Berg loves dog on a stick
[1:22] <Thayli> the only reason why booting from bootable USB sticks or live CDs works as fast as it does is because those are loaded into the RAM, but a full blown OS is too big for that, which is why it would be stupidly slow on a HDD
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[1:23] <Thayli> besides, you can get SD cards up to 64GB now or something? if you run headless you'd be really hard pressed to use all of it
[1:23] <vol4ko> i understand
[1:23] <AceLewis> Maybe a weird request but how can I remove the Key based SSH and set up new keys if I have physical access to the Pi?
[1:24] <Thayli> AceLewis: if you have root / access to the ssh service & keys, then yes
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[1:24] <AceLewis> Thayli, I do have root access to the pi
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[1:26] <Thayli> AceLewis: then yes, generate new keys, install new public key for ssh, remove old keys
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[1:27] <AceLewis> I generate the keys using putty so I can't transfer them to the Pi
[1:28] <Thayli> afaik putty has a feature for this
[1:28] <Thayli> ssh allows for installing public keys through it
[1:29] <Thayli> ah nvm, it's just openssh that had this feature, not putty
[1:30] <AceLewis> Yeah thats what I aim to do but I can't connect to the Pi using as I don't have the keys it has now, I want to go back to password SSH o I can connect and then redo the keys so I can go back to passwordless
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[1:32] <Thayli> there's a few solutions to this, you could transfer them with a usb stick, you could generate the new keys on the pi and then transfer your private key, log in on the pi remotely and copy/paste your public key, etc..
[1:34] <AceLewis> The USB stick method is not ideal as the Pi is in a very difficult to get to place but that may be my last bet, I have remote desktop and copy+paste don't transfer across devices so maybe I could upload them to dropbox?(but it may not be safe)
[1:36] <Thayli> putting a public key on dropbox is fine
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[1:38] <AceLewis> Is the public file ok to go to anyone? like public keys in PGP or should they still be kept secret?
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[1:39] <Thayli> ssh keys work like this: the public key is what you give people, other servers, etc.. this is the thing that you will connect to with your private key to form a pair and connect
[1:39] <Thayli> your private key is the thing you should keep secured
[1:40] <SyncYourDogmas> public keys are often used for authentication too , I have mine on my github
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[1:40] <Thayli> that... doesn't make any sense, both keys are for authentication :P
[1:40] <Thayli> since they work as a pair
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[1:41] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah reversed, I mean to authenticate you encrypt with public not private
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[1:42] <SyncYourDogmas> arguably a more glamarous side then decrypting
[1:43] <Thayli> ssh keys felt a bit obtuse when I first starting using them, but once you know how they work, you'll wonder why you ever bothered with password logins
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[1:44] <AceLewis> I have always used ssh logins but somehow they got deleted and I disabled password logins so I could not ssh to my pi to fix anything
[1:44] <SyncYourDogmas> Do you reuse the same pair over different devices?
[1:44] <AceLewis> No
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[1:46] <Thayli> I honestly think generating a new keypair for every device is mostly overkill
[1:46] <Thayli> probably keep a few seperate for work/personal/riskier things, but that's about it
[1:47] <AceLewis> I just have two Pi's and set the keys up in putty it was easier to use separate keys
[1:47] <SyncYourDogmas> I've never known the best approach
[1:47] <AceLewis> I have mine encrypted with a password so people can't steal them
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[1:48] <Thayli> yeah, wouldn't recommend using private keys without password
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[1:48] <SyncYourDogmas> Let me have a go :p
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[1:49] <Thayli> SyncYourDogmas: ?
[1:51] <SyncYourDogmas> At cracking his password I meant. I actually don't have decent hardware atm anyway
[1:52] <Thayli> oh
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[1:54] <AceLewis> It would take 24 thousand years on a desktop pc to brutefore according to https://howsecureismypassword.net/
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[1:56] <SyncYourDogmas> ah it depends on the world list though. That site says 24 quadragillion years for mine
[1:56] <SyncYourDogmas> or one similar did
[1:56] <SyncYourDogmas> It is quite long
[1:57] <Thayli> password bruteforcing isn't all that popular anymore
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[1:57] <Thayli> since a lot of online services force more secure passwords know, use two-step verification
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[1:58] <Thayli> this is a good read for getting secure passwords: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/03/choosing_secure_1.html
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[1:59] <SyncYourDogmas> There's always gonna be people picking stupid passwords on smaller sites though. graphical authentication methods are the future
[1:59] <AceLewis> I try no to reuse passwords and use 2FA at every step but it is hard to remember all my passwords and I use multiple PCs I think I may use Lastpass to help me but I am not 100% sure how secure that is
[1:59] <Thayli> most big services already use 2-step, like they should
[1:59] <Thayli> Google, FB, Steam, etc..
[2:00] <Thayli> I'd recommend lastpass/keepass, it makes your life a lot easier and they *are* secure if you use them properly
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[2:00] <Thayli> i.e. use a strong and unique master password, and keep your database file somewhere safe
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[2:01] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah, loads more don't though and people reuse passwords. I wonder how easy sniffing plain irc is. AceLewis 2 factor auth is solid
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[2:02] <AceLewis> One website I use still does not use HTTPS at all for logging in
[2:02] <Thayli> reusing passwords is really bad, 1 random webservice gets compromised and suddenly everything is compromised
[2:02] <Thayli> and you'd be surprised how often this happens
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[2:03] <Berg> i only have a 8bit memeory
[2:03] <Thayli> for example, biggest cause of people getting hacked in WoW: using the same password on some random forum that either gets compromised (or didn't secure the data in the first place), or even sells the data
[2:03] <AceLewis> Fingers crossed the passwords are salted... but I know in many cases they are not even hashed
[2:04] <Berg> should use retina recogoinition
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[2:04] * Berg imagine stolen eyeballs all over the net
[2:04] <Thayli> Minority Report, anyone
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[2:05] <ozzzy> is there a minority?
[2:05] <AceLewis> Berg, it would cost way too much but things like HSBC's keypad could be one effective way to secure accounts and could be much cheaper than texting 2FA
[2:05] <Berg> If its a matter of life or death info cant be compromised dont put it on the net in the first place
[2:06] <SyncYourDogmas> agreed, biometrics are okay for things with other options like phone's, not email etc
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[2:07] <Thayli> I don't think you'd like to give your retina sequence to candycrush or some random web service :P
[2:07] <Berg> i stiull use snail mail
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[2:07] <Berg> crushed retrina
[2:07] <Berg> sounds nasty
[2:08] <Thayli> Berg: try IPoAC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
[2:08] <Berg> thats old school
[2:08] <Berg> we had them in the war
[2:09] <Berg> sergent birdlice was a hero of many deliveries
[2:09] <Berg> sargent
[2:09] <SyncYourDogmas> I wonder if it's out there anyway, not sure what resolution it needs
[2:09] <AceLewis> Snail mail is still used in my Uni to send data to other Uni's if the data is too big for the internet to cope
[2:09] <SyncYourDogmas> Not speckled Jim?
[2:10] <Berg> lost a toe to flack
[2:10] <Berg> he drinks at hamlens bar and grill>>>>... well he used too
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[2:12] <Berg> my isp lets me use irc but no websites today
[2:12] <Berg> wonder why that is
[2:13] <Thayli> do you even vpn
[2:13] <Berg> nop
[2:14] <Berg> its only started today i got that wiki site that was ok
[2:14] <AceLewis> Berg, Why is that?
[2:14] <Berg> if i knew i would fix it i think its isp issues
[2:14] <AceLewis> DNS issues?
[2:14] <Berg> well i have some things but not all web
[2:14] <Berg> ill wait and ring them shortly
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[2:15] <Thayli> censorship!
[2:15] * Thayli starts handing out torches and pitchforks
[2:15] <AceLewis> Does this take you to google? http://74.125.224.72/
[2:15] <Berg> yep
[2:16] <Berg> i cant get on my local web sites AU
[2:16] <AceLewis> Does http://google.co.uk take you to google?
[2:16] <Berg> nope
[2:16] <Berg> just hangs
[2:17] <AceLewis> It is probably a DNS thing then, you can probably only visit sites that are still in your DNS cache
[2:17] <Berg> im not in uk by th3e way
[2:17] <AceLewis> I chose the uk as you would not have been to it and it will not be in your DNS cache
[2:18] <AceLewis> Do you know how to change your DNS server?
[2:18] <Berg> thats up mto my isp yes?
[2:18] <Berg> i have a ip from them
[2:18] <AceLewis> No you can change it on your PC
[2:18] <Berg> will it break enything?
[2:19] <AceLewis> Nope
[2:19] <niston> famous last words
[2:19] <Berg> my pc is lan connected to my router
[2:19] <niston> xD
[2:20] <Berg> i can reboot my connection and it gives me a new ip
[2:20] <Berg> i like fresh new ip addresses
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[2:20] <AceLewis> It can make things messy if you are using your laptop to connect to free wifi and that free wifi is DNS poisining you so when you go to a website it takes you to the put your email in to get free wifi thing but other than that there is no issues
[2:21] <Berg> sound sod
[2:21] <Berg> odd
[2:21] <AceLewis> Do you know what a DNS is?
[2:21] <Berg> i only have a desktop pc its 10 years old
[2:21] <Berg> dynamic name server?
[2:21] <qknight> hey. i'm using yocto and -> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.embedded.yocto.general/25143 <- i've hit this problem and i'm on meta-raspberrypi master, any idea what i can do?
[2:21] <AceLewis> Domain name server
[2:22] <Thayli> Berg: if you're using your ISPs DNS servers atm, you can switch to Google's DNS, that should probably fix it
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[2:22] <Berg> i hate google
[2:22] <Berg> its a sinfull place
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[2:23] <AceLewis> Use openDNS then
[2:23] <Thayli> ^
[2:23] <Berg> whats wrong with my isp dns?
[2:23] <AceLewis> It is down/has propagation issues
[2:23] <Berg> i dont have a domain name
[2:23] <AceLewis> Basically when you put in a websites name the DNS server tells you where the server it (its IP) so you can connect to the server
[2:24] <Berg> i only have a ip
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[2:24] <Berg> ooo
[2:24] <Berg> hmm
[2:24] <AceLewis> If the DNS server is down then you can't connecto to new websites as you don't know what that name means or where the server is
[2:25] <AceLewis> Are you on Windows or Linux?
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[2:25] <Berg> linux
[2:25] <Berg> i cant connect to old web sites either from my links
[2:25] <AceLewis> Ubuntu?
[2:25] <Berg> mint mate
[2:25] <Berg> cinommon
[2:26] <Berg> cinimon
[2:27] <AceLewis> Go to the Network tab thingy
[2:27] <AceLewis> The one where you see the networks you are connected to
[2:27] <Berg> why it only shows me my router
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[2:28] <Berg> im on lan
[2:28] <AceLewis> Yeah click on edit the connection
[2:28] <Berg> my router is connected to the net not the pc
[2:28] <Berg> why?
[2:28] <Berg> my connection to my router is 100%
[2:29] <AceLewis> You normally get the DNS server to use from your router but you can tell your PC what DNS server to use
[2:29] <AceLewis> So click edit on the connection and go into the IPV4 settings
[2:29] <Berg> ok
[2:29] <Thayli> instead of acquiring a DNS server from your router (which is generally your ISPs DNS server, which is not working right now), you use a different DNS service
[2:29] <Thayli> to solve your problem
[2:30] <Berg> ok
[2:30] <Berg> on ip4
[2:30] <AceLewis> Change the ausomatin to automaitic with address only
[2:30] <AceLewis> *automatic
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[2:31] <Berg> ok
[2:31] <AceLewis> Then put this in the DNS area 208.67.222.123, 208.67.220.123
[2:31] <Berg> dns server?
[2:31] <Berg> dns servers
[2:31] <AceLewis> Yep
[2:31] <Berg> ok
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[2:32] <AceLewis> Uncheck the require ipv4 addressing theing and save
[2:32] <Berg> ok
[2:32] <Berg> do save?
[2:33] <AceLewis> Yeah save
[2:33] <AceLewis> Now you may need to reconnect but try going to http://google.co.uk now
[2:33] <Berg> ooo its asking for the admin password
[2:33] <Berg> no still haning
[2:34] <Berg> do i need reboot pc?
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[2:34] <Thayli> rebooting the interface, rather
[2:34] <Berg> hows that?
[2:34] <AceLewis> Maybe, or you may just have to restart the connection to the router
[2:34] <Berg> one3 sec
[2:34] <Thayli> not sure how to do this in ubuntu, but disable & re-enable it
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[2:34] <Thayli> or that
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[2:39] <AceLewis> Berg when you get your DNS working you may want to see this video, this will explain what a DNS is more if you are confused https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72snZctFFtA
[2:40] <AceLewis> Thanks for helping Thayli I have to go now
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[2:41] <Berg> hi i have very unhappy internet
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[2:41] <Berg> i need to sacrefice a cow
[2:41] <Berg> appease the gods
[2:42] <Berg> i restarted it a few time till it took still no google uk
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[2:43] <Thayli> hmm, so either you did something wrong or it somehow is not your DNS
[2:43] <Thayli> then I have no idea what is wrong
[2:43] <niston> Berg: do like the inka did and sacrifice a few virgins perhaps?
[2:44] <Berg> i did it all correct sir trust me i a aussie
[2:44] <Berg> ill try thaqt niston do you have one?
[2:45] <niston> one won't suffice I'm affraid
[2:45] <Thayli> there's bound to be plenty on irc :P
[2:45] <Thayli> mostly male
[2:45] <niston> ye ole gods are very demanding, yanno
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[7:42] <TheRinger> what is the lightest ubuntu distro i can install on rpi
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[8:37] <KDDLB> any way to bypass the "mirror redirector"?
[8:37] <KDDLB> it's not working for me
[8:37] <KDDLB> :v
[8:37] <KDDLB> would you believe it, as soon as I ask, it starts working
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[9:00] <Vyom> KDDLB: Yes we can belive it. Godspeed. :)
[9:01] <KDDLB> heh
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[9:13] <Bhaal> Anyone know what kind of res I can expect to export over the ethernet connection from a Pi in h264 mode? (25Mbit)
[9:13] <Bhaal> ie: Max
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[9:33] <Lina> o/
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[12:42] <Vanfanel> Hi, I'm trying to crosscompile for Raspbian using -isysroot and --sysroot parameters, but gcc doesn't find certain headers that are there: http://pastebin.com/QaAAWM8H What am I doing wrong? I've moved around the parameters with no results...
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[12:48] <juhop> hmm... includes seem to be wrong
[12:48] <juhop> add -I/opt/rpi_root/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf
[12:49] <Vanfanel> juhop: that's what -isysroot is for, isn't it? To avoid having to do -I/opt/rpi_root/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf and simply do -I/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf instead
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[13:55] <KarniK> Hello, when I ssh into my pi, I can do "sudo su" and become root without any password prompt. Is that normal by default?
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[14:07] <vol4ko> your user pi have sudo permission. So sudo su will work by default yes
[14:07] <vol4ko> i recommend to change the default pi password.
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[14:11] <MonkehParade> Hey guys
[14:11] <MonkehParade> I've been having trouble with the EW-7811Un wifi dongle
[14:11] <MonkehParade> Most of the time, the connection just drops for no reason
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[14:14] <KarniK> vol4ko: I've change the pi password but can I enable one for root?
[14:15] <KarniK> vol4ko: I want to enter a specific password when I need to use sudo (for security reason)
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[14:24] <vol4ko> KarniK: maybe try with sudo visudo and then search for this line: username ALL = NOPASSWD : ALL and then remove it
[14:24] <KarniK> got it
[14:24] <KarniK> thank you
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[14:29] <k_j> hi
[14:29] <k_j> is theere a case for the rpi disaply?
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[14:30] <KarniK> vol4ko: just to confirm it works as expected, thanks
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[15:01] <vol4ko> KarniK: Good. Glad it worked
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[16:15] <pksato> http://hackaday.com/2015/10/09/arming-a-breadboard-everyone-should-program-an-arm/
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[16:29] <Vanfanel> Hi, I'm trying to crosscompile for Raspbian using -isysroot and --sysroot parameters, but gcc doesn't find certain headers that are there: http://pastebin.com/QaAAWM8H What am I doing wrong? I've moved around the parameters with no results...
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[16:54] <AbbyTheRat_> Heya :)
[16:54] <AbbyTheRat_> ou, Rattus a mod now?
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[18:13] <pedroalvarez> .. defconfig file is massive: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-4.1.y/arch/arm/configs/bcm2709_defconfig
[18:13] <pedroalvarez> 1254 lines!
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[18:15] <pedroalvarez> it has a lot of things enabled that might not be used ever :/
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[18:33] <v0lksman> hello all! I was sitting here today thinking about this stupid analog timer I have attached to my pool pump and wondering how hard it would be to use a Pi to control this simple on/off function. I've got no issues on the software side, pretty sure I can write some code to handle it but the hardware is completely foreign to me. Any advise or docs someone can point me to?
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[18:45] <SpeedEvil> v0lksman: do you just want to turn on and off the pump?
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[18:46] <v0lksman> yep!
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[18:46] <v0lksman> I did find this which seems to be along the right path http://upon2020.com/blog/2012/12/my-raspberry-pi-pool-timer-selecting-the-parts/
[18:46] <SpeedEvil> v0lksman: where are you\/
[18:47] <v0lksman> Canada
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[18:48] <SpeedEvil> I note that that the FET may not work at all if you're unlucky.
[18:48] <v0lksman> why's that?
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[18:49] <SpeedEvil> Because it is not specified to work at 3.3V output, it is specified to work at 10V.
[18:49] <SpeedEvil> ^input
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[18:49] <SpeedEvil> It may in some cases if you are lucky, turn on enough to turn the relay on at 3.3V (as output by the Pi, but it may not)
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[18:49] <v0lksman> ah...I was looking at local suppliers so I found this: http://www.alliedelec.com/international-rectifier-irf540zpbf/70016922/
[18:49] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=relay&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR3.TRC1.A0.H0.Xrelay+pi.TRS0&_nkw=relay+pi&_sacat=0
[18:50] <v0lksman> but I htink you are saying it will suffer as well
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[18:51] <v0lksman> hrm...I may have one from an arduino kit...
[18:51] <pksato> to control mains AC, use SSR. Isalated, simple to use.
[18:51] <SpeedEvil> If you look at page 2 of the datasheet, you see 'Vgs(th) 2-4V
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[18:51] <SpeedEvil> What this means is that at 4V, it may pass as little as 250uA, if you're unlucky.
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[18:51] <SpeedEvil> At 3.3V, perhaps .05uA.
[18:52] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5V-1-Channel-Relay-Board-Module-for-Arduino-Raspberry-Pi-ARM-AVR-DSP-PIC-/261993826722?hash=item3d000c89a2 kind of thing is useful
[18:52] <SpeedEvil> What amps is the pump?
[18:53] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-Phase-SSR-Solid-State-Relay-DC-AC-DC-3-32V-to-AC-240V-50A-High-Quality-/251809778738?hash=item3aa1084c32 - for example may be ideal
[18:53] <v0lksman> ok...so I have this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5V-1-Channel-Relay-Board-Module-for-Arduino-Raspberry-Pi-ARM-AVR-DSP-PIC-/261993826722?hash=item3d000c89a2
[18:53] <v0lksman> yay!
[18:53] <v0lksman> came with an arduino kit I bought
[18:53] <v0lksman> now for a relay
[18:54] <SpeedEvil> That is a relay.
[18:54] <v0lksman> right! fet!
[18:54] <SpeedEvil> If you actually believe the numbers on top of the relay, then it can do 10A@125V
[18:54] <SpeedEvil> No, it's got a driver, you don't need a FET or anything to drive ti
[18:55] <SpeedEvil> just connect 5V, input, and 0V
[18:55] <v0lksman> oh! so basically I would take the leads from my pump and attach them to the screw posts and the other 3 leads would attach to the pi?
[18:55] <SpeedEvil> Basically, yes.
[18:56] <SpeedEvil> Personally, I would use some solid-state relay like the above one.
[18:56] <SpeedEvil> What amps is the pump?
[18:56] <v0lksman> like this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Single-Phase-SSR-Solid-State-Relay-DC-AC-DC-3-32V-to-AC-240V-50A-High-Quality-/251809778738?hash=item3aa1084c32
[18:56] <SpeedEvil> yes
[18:56] <v0lksman> I think the pump is 45A
[18:56] <SpeedEvil> Ah.
[18:56] <v0lksman> that may be the fuse those...it may be lower than that
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[18:56] <SpeedEvil> In that case, you need a SSR with a real rating of >45A
[18:57] <SpeedEvil> 50A is probably too tight - especially as that may well be a chinese rating.
[18:57] <v0lksman> so these are out then: http://www.alliedelec.com/lp/151008/magnecraft/?utm_source=prod&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=151008_product
[18:57] <v0lksman> they are 3A and you are saying I need something over 50A to be safe right?
[18:58] <SpeedEvil> yes
[18:58] <pksato> 45A? dont have a contactor (big relay) to switch?
[18:59] <v0lksman> looking for details...
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[19:00] <v0lksman> that's pretty much the pump but nothign about A http://www.amazon.ca/Hayward-SP2607X10-Super-Max-Rated-Single-Speed/dp/B000FNAHCI
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[19:01] <cybr1d> So I have a python script to kill a few apps at the press of a gpio button. The script seems fine but I'm having issues...
[19:01] <cybr1d> When I add it to my rc.local iceweasel and chromium both start crashing. I have them set up to run in kiosk mode automatically and the script/button is to kill them.
[19:01] <cybr1d> Removing the entry in rc.local and they'll boot fine. Any ideas?
[19:01] <SpeedEvil> http://www.alliedelec.com/teledyne-relays-s48a50-22-r/70105557/ - something like this
[19:02] <SpeedEvil> If it is in fact 45A
[19:02] <SpeedEvil> 45A@120V = ~6hp
[19:02] <SpeedEvil> It may well be considerably smaller
[19:03] <SpeedEvil> Do you still have the manual/box?
[19:04] <pksato> 1HP ~ 1000W
[19:04] <v0lksman> SpeedEvil: just ran downstairs to the breaker box and it looks like a standard 15A circuit
[19:04] <v0lksman> single breaker, for some reason I thought it was a double
[19:04] <SpeedEvil> vol4ko: then that's rather cheaper.
[19:05] <methuzla> cybr1d pastebin your rc.local that has script
[19:06] <cybr1d> http://pastebin.com/vTdU7haw
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[19:06] <SpeedEvil> vol4ko: http://www.alliedelec.com/schneider-electric-magnecraft-6425axxszs-dc3/70185310/ - for example
[19:07] <cybr1d> and the script http://pastebin.com/WYkNu144
[19:07] <SpeedEvil> you can almost certainly go to 15A rating safely.
[19:08] <v0lksman> so this would be safe http://www.alliedelec.com/schneider-electric-magnecraft-782xbxm4l-24d/70185018/
[19:09] <SpeedEvil> yes - but relays with inductive loads may have sharply reduced lives.
[19:09] <SpeedEvil> And fail after well under their normal 100000 or so ratings
[19:09] <methuzla> cybr1d you were able to boot with that? without sending it to the background you are essentially running an infinite loop at boot
[19:10] <v0lksman> hrm...that's beyond me. how do I know if it has inductive loads?
[19:10] <pksato> If have a analog timer, can be have a contactor too.
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[19:12] <cybr1d> methuzla: Yea, I boot fine. but depending whats in the script (iceweasel currently) that browser just crashes on launch.
[19:12] <SpeedEvil> vol4ko: It's a motor. It probably is.
[19:12] <v0lksman> and just for my own education, I shouldn't use this little relay I found because it's 10A at 125VAC and that may not be enough amps for this application correct?
[19:12] <cybr1d> methuzla:im not sure what you mean by "without sending it to the background" though..
[19:13] <cybr1d> actually, matchb0x-keyboard crashes too. just remembered that. its not just th browsers
[19:13] <SpeedEvil> vol4ko: read the datasheet of the relay. It will give teh test condtiions. it will likely have a rating much under 10A for inductive loads.
[19:13] <methuzla> cybr1d rc.local gets run a boot, you call your python program which is essentially an infinite loop and does not return
[19:14] <methuzla> cybr1d the boot process would hang there
[19:14] <pksato> v0lksman: that kind of analog timer are in use?
[19:14] <v0lksman> oh...I see what you are saying, because I have a motor that is drawing the current it will affect the lifespan of the relay I'm attaching to it?
[19:14] <v0lksman> pksato: right now? just a dial timer
[19:14] <cybr1d> hhm
[19:14] <v0lksman> pksato: http://wetheadmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/pictures/2010/03/Intermatic-Pool-Timer.jpg
[19:14] <methuzla> cybr1d also, how are you getting gpio access without sudo?
[19:16] <v0lksman> pksato: are you saying I could use the relay from this analog timer? :)
[19:16] <SpeedEvil> v0lksman: Sure.
[19:16] <v0lksman> mind blown
[19:16] <v0lksman> hahahah
[19:16] <SpeedEvil> If it actually has a relay, and not a mechanical timer-driven switch
[19:16] <pksato> no. time not have a relay.
[19:17] <v0lksman> yeah...was just going to say...it is likley mechanical
[19:17] <v0lksman> the dial actually swings a lever that allows power to flow
[19:17] <v0lksman> so yeah
[19:17] <v0lksman> damn
[19:17] <pksato> check specs of timer.
[19:17] <cybr1d> methuzla: uh, im not sure there. i just jacked the script from an old gpio shutdown button i had and changed the cmd.
[19:18] <cybr1d> http://pastebin.com/WYkNu144
[19:18] <pksato> or, if is direct connectod to motor, or have other devices before.
[19:18] <cybr1d> ddit men to paste that again
[19:18] <cybr1d> didnt mean*
[19:19] <methuzla> cybr1d what os are you running?
[19:19] <v0lksman> I don't think any of them have relays
[19:19] <v0lksman> http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Intermatic-control-center-parts.pdf
[19:19] <cybr1d> rasbian. ive tried both wheezy and jessie recently
[19:20] <methuzla> cybr1d and which one are you currently using? (wheezy or jessie)
[19:20] <cybr1d> as of last night... Jessie is the current.
[19:20] <cybr1d> i get the same issues on both tho
[19:21] <methuzla> cybr1d they have entirely different init systems
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[19:21] <cybr1d> what do you suggest?
[19:21] <methuzla> cybr1d first, simple check, if you run your script from the command line it works?
[19:22] <cybr1d> ill boot up now
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[19:25] <cybr1d> Ran it, and it worked.
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[19:27] <pksato> v0lksman: Time have a switch for 220V at 40A (max).
[19:27] <pksato> for resistive load.
[19:27] <methuzla> cybr1d did you run it with: python /home/pi/scripts/shutdown-apps.py
[19:28] <cybr1d> exactly that.
[19:28] <cybr1d> it killed iceweasel, but seems to be repeating too. After it killed it, i start getting "iceweasel: no process found"
[19:28] <v0lksman> pksato: that's the "tripper" switch you are talking about?
[19:28] <methuzla> cybr1d ok, i think the non-root access to gpio is a new thing (since jessie)
[19:28] <pksato> v0lksman: switch inside timer.
[19:28] <methuzla> cybr1d the repeat is a bounce issue, increase your delay
[19:29] <v0lksman> yeah...I could toggle that with the pi?
[19:29] <cybr1d> ah alright
[19:29] <methuzla> cybr1d follow this tutorial for running the script at boot: https://learn.adafruit.com/running-programs-automatically-on-your-tiny-computer/overview
[19:29] <methuzla> cybr1d you'll want to use the systemd approach
[19:30] <cybr1d> Alright, thanks. I'll check it out meow.
[19:31] <methuzla> cybr1d are you using pull up/down resistors on your input?
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[19:32] <cybr1d> Not sure I understand..
[19:32] <methuzla> cybr1d needed to prevent the input from floating
[19:33] <methuzla> cybr1d what kind of switch are you using?
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[19:33] <cybr1d> simple single action always open switch.
[19:33] <cybr1d> just click to close.
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[19:34] <methuzla> cybr1d so when it's not pressed, it's open, and the input is floating (neither high nor low)
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[19:35] <methuzla> cybr1d you'll get indeterminate behavior from GPIO.input(4)
[19:36] <cybr1d> hm
[19:36] <methuzla> cybr1d it's a pretty basic thing and plenty of tutorials out there if you google it
[19:36] <methuzla> cybr1d but you'll pick one of either pull up or pull down
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[19:37] <methuzla> cybr1d and you can do it with external resistors, or use the internal ones via parameters in GPIO.setup
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[19:37] <methuzla> http://sourceforge.net/p/raspberry-gpio-python/wiki/Inputs/
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[19:38] <gordonDrogon> methuzla, non-root GPIO access works in Wheezy too.
[19:39] <methuzla> gordonDrogon how?
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[19:41] <gordonDrogon> you just do a normaly upgrade and get the latest kernel.
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> RPi.GPIO and wiringPi both support the user-mode GPIO, although it has some limitations.
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> you can't use hardware PWM with it for example - not yet anyway, hopefully that might get fixed soon.
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[20:51] <Lartza> Samba hates arm?
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[20:51] <Lartza> It seems to crash my RPi when I have a samba server on it, rpi as a client works fine
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[20:53] <methuzla> samba works fine for me on several pis
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[20:54] <Lartza> My pi just locks up after some time
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[21:18] <r0xtedy> hello world!
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[21:19] <r0xtedy> how are you people?
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[21:25] <ppq> ok
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[21:29] <r0xtedy> okAY
[21:30] <r0xtedy> so how about ps2 games?
[21:30] <ppq> not on a pi
[21:31] <ppq> ps2 is hard to emulate, you will need a pc for that
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[21:33] <ppq> emulators for other systems work much better
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[22:16] <MakeMeAHipster> hello
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[22:17] <MakeMeAHipster> i havent really used my raspi so i wouldnt know, raspi model B1, does it support full java for development and can it run the output in a virtual machine like the regular java on windows? for making games
[22:18] <ppq> it's possible, sure
[22:18] <ppq> but i wouldnt try to run netbeans or eclipse on a pi
[22:18] <ppq> java is just soooo slow..
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[22:19] <ppq> if you have a choice, i'd strongly recommend using some other language
[22:20] <ppq> e.g. python
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[22:22] <MakeMeAHipster> im kinda new to programming and devving, can you make games with python? like a 3d game? i saw that quake something can run on a raspi model b1... also id have to learn python 3 cause i already kinda know java well
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[22:24] <ppq> it's always good to know more than one lang
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[22:24] <ppq> also, python is really easy
[22:25] <MakeMeAHipster> ah ok
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[22:25] <MakeMeAHipster> so i CAN make games on it?
[22:26] <MakeMeAHipster> like 3d ones i mean
[22:26] <MakeMeAHipster> i know you can make 2d ones
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[22:27] <ppq> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonGames
[22:27] <ppq> just an overview
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[22:28] <MakeMeAHipster> thank you
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[22:29] <MakeMeAHipster> would pysoy run on a raspi?
[22:29] <MakeMeAHipster> be right back
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[22:31] <ppq> yes
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[22:33] <ppq> i think the people behind that are in #CopyleftGames
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[22:35] <MakeMeAHipster> ah cool
[22:35] <MakeMeAHipster> thanks
[22:36] <MakeMeAHipster> all that page is raspi compatible things ppq ?
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[22:38] <ppq> no
[22:38] <ppq> it's about python in general
[22:39] <ppq> there was a google "summer of code" thing regarding pysoy on the pi, so it's a safe bet to look into that a bit
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[22:40] <MakeMeAHipster> ah
[22:40] <MakeMeAHipster> ok thanks
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[22:41] <methuzla> gordonDrogon updated (i think) my wheezy pi's, but still can't do non-root access to gpio with RPi.GPIO
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[22:45] <gordonDrogon> methuzla, what kernel version - 4.7.x is needed I think.
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[22:46] <ppq> 4.7? :o
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[22:46] <methuzla> 4.1.7+ #817 PREEMPT Sat Sep 19 15:25:36 BST 2015 armv6l GNU/Linux
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> gordon @ sense-pi: uname -a
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> Linux sense-pi 4.1.7+ #817 PREEMPT Sat Sep 19 15:25:36 BST 2015 armv6l GNU/Linux
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> gordon @ sense-pi: cat /etc/debian_version
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> 7.8
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> ok - you need to enable dev-tree - run sudo raspi-config
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[22:46] <gordonDrogon> or if you have a new version of wiringPi, just run gpio -v and it will tell you.
[22:47] <gordonDrogon> look for /dev/gpiomem
[22:47] <gordonDrogon> although I think the default permissions might still be wrong.
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[22:48] <gordonDrogon> methuzla, might want to read this: http://wiringpi.com/wiringpi-update-to-2-29/
[22:49] <methuzla> gordonDrogon know it's not your thing, but was trying it with RPi.GPIO in python
[22:49] <methuzla> gordonDrogon maybe it hasn't changed yet?
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> no idea. I'd check his website, but if /dev/gpiomem exists, then user-mode is possible.
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[23:40] <JakeSays> anyone know if the screen in an iphone 3 would work on a raspi?
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