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IRC Log for 2015-10-14

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[0:35] <Berg> homeless people have feelings too
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[2:49] <AbbyTheRat> Rawr, heya everyone ^_^
[2:49] <AbbyTheRat> How's everyone?
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[2:52] <Berg> Im doing a course in C++ for newbies and its confirmed i like python better
[2:52] <Berg> how are you AbbyTheRat
[2:53] <penk> hi everyone. i'm relatively new to Pi's. I have a 2 - is there a way to connect to it via USB as a console? i'm tired of hauling out a monitor, usb keyboard, and HDMI cable everytime i can't connect to the durned thing.
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[2:53] <AbbyTheRat> I got myself a bit burnt :D
[2:53] <AbbyTheRat> but the soldering for today is done, so I'm happy
[2:53] <AbbyTheRat> much better job than last time ^_^
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[2:53] <Berg> penk is it connected to lan or net?
[2:54] <Berg> you can use ssh
[2:54] <penk> i only have wifi here. it -should- be on the local wifi, but nmap / etc doesn't see it - i need to log into it and find out if the SSID is set right, etc etc.
[2:54] <shoshy> how can i use python to output a gui over HDMI ? (Without startx) ?
[2:54] <shoshy> i was able to use tkinter but on startx
[2:54] <penk> startx starts the X server. you'll need the x server for graphics, then you can use pygame and the like
[2:55] <shoshy> penk: my tasks are only displaying a photo / writing a text - in big on screen.
[2:55] <penk> use an xserver :)
[2:55] <Berg> there are lots of GUI for python but for me remote desktop or a web server also work for remote access
[2:56] <shoshy> penk: with out the xserver
[2:56] <shoshy> i can display an image using the fbi lib..
[2:56] <shoshy> i even thought of generating an image with text - as an example..
[2:56] <penk> why not use X? it'll save you a lot of yak shaving.
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[2:57] <shoshy> because i don't want the user to see the whole gui interface loading
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[2:57] <penk> you should understand how xservers work.
[2:57] <penk> you can just start an xserver, then start an X client against it. no 'gui loading'
[2:57] <shoshy> penk: ok... looking into http://python-xlib.sourceforge.net/
[2:58] <shoshy> i guess that's not it
[2:58] <penk> that's an xlib
[2:58] <penk> that talks to an xserver :)
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[2:59] <shoshy> penk: can you please refer me to a link... maybe with an example
[2:59] <shoshy> penk: thank you
[3:00] <penk> so when you run 'startx', it's invoking the xserver and starting all the client software against it.
[3:00] <penk> try just doing 'xinit'. do you just get a blank xserver?
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[3:00] <shoshy> penk: yea..
[3:00] <penk> apparently i can do a 'console cable' via usb. gonna try doing that.
[3:00] <shoshy> it blinked
[3:01] <penk> oh, there's no anchor. okay, create a ~/.xinitrc and put 'xterm' in that
[3:01] <shoshy> Ixinit: connection to X server lost waiting for X server to shut down Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.
[3:01] <penk> (assuming you have xterm installed)
[3:01] <penk> right, there's no clients.
[3:01] <penk> nothing to anchor the xserver.
[3:01] <shoshy> just to put xterm in the file?
[3:01] <shoshy> the word 'xterm'
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[3:02] <penk> assuming you have xterm installed. make sure of that first. or any other basic terminal.
[3:02] <Berg> random comment xtightvncviewer and xtightvncserver for remotley using the pi without monitor or keyboard and mouse
[3:02] <penk> btw, i'm doing this very old school way. startx is the proper way to do this, you'd need to change whatever the startx uses for a session (maybe ~/.xsession?) - either of those do this.
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[3:03] <shoshy> ive installed xterm
[3:03] <shoshy> now i ran xinit
[3:03] <shoshy> and got a terminal window
[3:03] <penk> yay!
[3:03] <penk> you have just started the worlds simplest x session.
[3:04] <shoshy> haha :)
[3:04] <shoshy> i just want to be able to display text in big font text and images... - full screen
[3:04] <penk> okay. so anything that goes in ~/.xinitrc will run when the xserver starts. so from that terminal you can run any application that supports x. pygame is th ebest way to write x apps in python. (or was last time i talked to it)
[3:05] <shoshy> can i run a tkinter "hello world" py file ?
[3:05] <penk> sure
[3:05] <penk> tkinter i think is an x client
[3:06] <penk> TIAS :)
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[3:06] <shoshy> so now in ~/.xinitrc i have one line and is "xterm"
[3:06] <penk> okay, taht's your anchor app
[3:06] <penk> when the xterm dies, X will terminate.
[3:06] <shoshy> now i want for instance: "./dir/python app.py"
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[3:06] <shoshy> how and how can i add that line to the file? just in a new line?
[3:07] <penk> wiat
[3:07] <penk> run it by hand in the xterm first.
[3:07] <shoshy> penk: but that would mean i'll need to connect a mouse + keyboard
[3:07] <shoshy> no?
[3:07] <shoshy> because i'm sshing
[3:07] <penk> oh i see.
[3:07] <penk> yeah, you can put that in the xinitrc
[3:08] <shoshy> i wonder if "python" will be recognized
[3:08] <Berg> http://kivy.org/#home is a newish python GUI
[3:08] <shoshy> as it appears in the $PATH .. shouldnt be a problem
[3:09] <penk> if you get stuck, ssh in again, and kill the Xserver process
[3:09] <shoshy> ok.. so i've added: "python /home/pi/Desktop/gui/gui.py" and i only see the term
[3:09] <shoshy> i don't see my window
[3:09] <shoshy> penk: i just ctrl+c to kill it
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[3:10] <shoshy> on the ssh
[3:10] <Berg> sudo
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[3:10] <penk> i thought you didnt' have a keyboard attached? oh. oh, you're runing the xserver from the ssh session,right. o k
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[3:10] <shoshy> Berg: i've added "sudo python /home/pi/Desktop/gui/gui.py" - didn't help
[3:10] <Berg> ok
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[3:11] <shoshy> penk: what am i doing wrong?
[3:11] <penk> dunno, what are you doing wrong? :)
[3:11] <penk> what's happening?
[3:12] <penk> and if you say "it's not working", i'm going to beat you witha lead pipe.
[3:12] <shoshy> so my ~/.xinitrc looks like: xterm , new line , sudo python /home/pi/Desktop/gui/gui.py
[3:12] <shoshy> penk: sorry :)
[3:12] * Berg lends penk a pipe
[3:12] <shoshy> penk: i really appreciate the help.
[3:12] <penk> the xterm is not backgrounded, is it?
[3:12] <penk> i should let you figure this out yourself :)
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[3:14] <shoshy> penk: i've removed "xterm" and left the "sudo python /home/pi/Desktop/gui/gui.py" - it did write the text
[3:15] <penk> \o/
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[3:16] <shoshy> penk: weeee! it works! :)
[3:16] <shoshy> i'm so happy...
[3:16] <shoshy> thank you soo much!
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[3:16] <penk> i take bitcoin contributions :)
[3:16] <shoshy> lol :)
[3:17] <shoshy> so if i have a python script running and it wants to display something
[3:17] <shoshy> dynamically...
[3:17] <shoshy> how can i go about it without changing "~/.xinitrc" and running "xinit" every time
[3:18] <shoshy> of course - in case that python screen ISN'T the one xinit runs.
[3:18] <penk> i'm really having a sad, because the questions you're asking are basic linux / unix / Xwindows 101 stuff. kids these days.
[3:19] <penk> i think you'll need to figure this out on your own. i've given you all the data you need.
[3:19] <shoshy> penk: ok.. im new to this... what can i say..
[3:19] <shoshy> just trying to learn
[3:19] <shoshy> thanks
[3:19] <penk> learn about Xwindows :)
[3:19] <penk> it's the root of everything on every Linux desktop you've ever seen.
[3:20] <shoshy> ok!
[3:20] <Berg> google is your friend to find out a lot of issues
[3:20] <shoshy> Berg: right... thanks a lot guys!
[3:21] <shoshy> very cool
[3:21] <Berg> Im in your boat too shoshy
[3:22] <Berg> If you know where to look it falls into place
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[3:25] <shoshy> Berg: hopefully! :)
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[3:26] <Berg> :)
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[5:04] <gorroth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqLD8liBMcM <== my RPi/AVR/PS3 system for controlling 24v motors!!!
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[6:16] <user083> Is there a Ada programming language GPIO library?
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[6:22] <gorroth> maybe?
[6:22] <gorroth> if ada can interface with C, then sure
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[6:23] <user083> gorroth: it can which C gpio inplementation should i use wiringPi?
[6:25] <gorroth> i would guess so, but i haven't used the gpio very much like that. when i use it, i only use it to program an avr chip and then the ttyAMA0 device to speak to my AVR over uart
[6:25] <gorroth> so i'm not very good at telling you what to do
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[8:44] <regum> hello
[8:45] <regum> I'm running ubuntu 14 (arm) on the raspberry 2 and I'd like to boot to the command line, how can I do this?
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[8:50] <clever> shiftplusone: you happen to be on?
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[10:25] <Xenthys`> heh, didn't see that my bot application has been approved, my spam folder was hungry :/
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[11:14] <hpekdemir> hi all
[11:14] <regum> hi
[11:15] <hpekdemir> I wonder, what is the difference between switching on an LED with a gpio ping setting to high/low and the same setup with connection a transistor to that pin?
[11:15] <hpekdemir> *pin
[11:15] <hpekdemir> *connecting
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[11:16] <regum> a transistor can be used as a switch, so you can power stuff that requires more power that the pi can handle
[11:16] <regum> without having the pi giving out that power
[11:16] <regum> they can also be used as amplifiers
[11:17] <hpekdemir> so for example a light bulb with from an external power supply (in my circuit) and using the transistor to switch on and off via gpio pin?
[11:18] <regum> yeah
[11:18] <hpekdemir> ok thanks
[11:18] <regum> np
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[12:10] <Peasant65> Hi! I've been working on a project to get rpi2 working as a thin client
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[12:11] <Peasant65> It works, sort of, the rpi2 begins to lag when there's a lot of refreshing going on such as browsing or playing youtube
[12:11] <Peasant65> Is this because of the lack of gpu acceleration ?
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[12:11] <Peasant65> if yes, would an odroid c1+ have better support ?
[12:11] <ShorTie> yup it will, rpi not known for net trafic
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[12:12] <Peasant65> ShorTie: so you say it's the ethernet controller ?
[12:12] <ShorTie> anything with a real nic would most likely work better
[12:12] <Peasant65> but it really looks like a gpu problem
[12:12] <Peasant65> like interlacing/redrawing screen all the time
[12:13] <regum> I can't really talk from experience, but I've read that having the microsd card is really bad for high traffic
[12:13] <ShorTie> it's the way the ethernet controller is hooked up thru the usb
[12:13] <regum> maybe you should transfer the system to a pendrive of some sort
[12:13] <regum> and run the traffic through there
[12:13] <Peasant65> regum: what difference would that make ?
[12:14] <regum> apparently the sd card wears out quite fast
[12:14] <Peasant65> I don't think the SD card is accessed that much ?
[12:14] <hpekdemir> can anybody tell me what the difference is between a transistor and a relais? I see I can make a switch from both of them?
[12:14] <Peasant65> I mean I hope the rdp session exists mostly in ram ?
[12:14] <clever> Peasant65: i would check 'top' and see what is using the most cpu first
[12:14] <regum> a relay is a switch that physically moves
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[12:14] <regum> just like a normal switch, but is controlled sutomatically
[12:14] <hpekdemir> except that the relais switches analog and the transistor digital ofc.
[12:14] <Peasant65> clever: will do
[12:15] <regum> a transistor is solid-state, its properties change and it can act as a switch, but it doesn't have moving parts
[12:15] <clever> hpekdemir: transistors can also switch analog
[12:15] <hpekdemir> clever: oh ok
[12:15] <ShorTie> you still most likely gonna need a transistor/opto isolator with a relay
[12:15] <clever> hpekdemir: usualy, a transistors will have a gain of something like 100x, so 1mA of current from the pi will allow 100mA to be switched on/off
[12:15] <ShorTie> coil current will kill the pi
[12:16] <Peasant65> clever: Will take some time to re-image my sd card, i'll report back later :)
[12:16] <hpekdemir> I wanted to buy some switches (transistors) but then I saw the 8 channel relais switch.
[12:16] <clever> hpekdemir: but people often just slam the transistor to 100% on, so it acts more on/off then analog
[12:16] <clever> the main problem with relays is that they need more current then the rpi can supply
[12:16] <regum> yeah, transistors can also act as amplifiers
[12:16] <clever> so you would need a transistor to power to relay to switch X on/off
[12:17] <hpekdemir> clever: so in both cases I need an external power supply?
[12:17] <ShorTie> think a opto isolator is the more common method to operate a relay
[12:17] <clever> hpekdemir: you can run transistors from the 3.3v or 5v pin on the GPIO header
[12:18] <hpekdemir> clever: but how can it do more power (current) if the pi is limited to 16mA?
[12:18] <clever> and a transistor MUST share atleast the gnd rail of the pi or it wont work
[12:18] <clever> hpekdemir: the gpio pins are limited to 16mA, but the 3.3v and 5v pins are not
[12:18] <clever> the 5v pin just goes directly to the main power input
[12:18] <hpekdemir> I see.
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[12:19] <regum> hpekdemir, if you want more power, you can get it from an external source and control it with a transistor with the board
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[12:20] <clever> hpekdemir: the question depends a lot on what you want to switch
[12:20] <clever> ac/dc?, how many amps?, what voltage?
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[12:21] <hpekdemir> clever: I want to switch a 45 LED's connected in series. while 60 of them need 15W. 45 of them will need 11,25W. the power source is a 12V/14V car battery
[12:21] <clever> ah
[12:21] <hpekdemir> from my calculations I need 1,24A @14V
[12:21] <clever> what kind of on/off freq do you want?
[12:22] <hpekdemir> only a switch. WebIOPi with on off button on GUI
[12:22] <hpekdemir> on or off.
[12:22] <hpekdemir> maybe pulse. but that's low prio.
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[12:23] <hpekdemir> since I need either all on or all off when I switch the source, this should be simple with one gpio.
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[12:24] <clever> hpekdemir: one sec
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[12:26] <clever> need a minute to remember which way this goes
[12:27] <hpekdemir> ok
[12:28] <hpekdemir> maybe I should add that I will have to use one of these: http://www.amazon.de/Wechselrichter-Spannungswandler-Konverter-12V-15W/dp/B00AEJLR2W/ref=sr_1_5?s=ce-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1444818449&sr=1-5&keywords=kfz+12V+5V+converter
[12:28] <hpekdemir> so my current is limited to 3A max.
[12:28] <hpekdemir> if this is somehow relevant for a possible relais board (or not)
[12:29] * niston is happy wif his china tower lights
[12:29] <niston> some $30 for 3 colors + buzzer :]
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[12:35] <clever> hpekdemir: http://i.imgur.com/PwH2DBs.png something like this might work
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[12:36] <clever> hpekdemir: Q1 will amplify the 16mA from the pi a fairly decent amount, enough to drive a high power transistor (Q2) which can switch the a couple amps on/off
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[12:37] <regum> consider using OrCAD to test it out before buyin anything
[12:37] <clever> the resistors will need to be calculated to match your transistors
[12:38] <clever> and you can test it by just connecting a 3.3v source to the input, ignore the entire pi for the intial testing, no need to risk it
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[12:38] <hpekdemir> ok. is OrCAD available for linux?
[12:38] <hpekdemir> I could use other software though
[12:38] <hpekdemir> for simulatinig
[12:40] <hpekdemir> and what is R2 for?
[12:40] <hpekdemir> ah the pull up resistor from my gpio I guess.
[12:40] <clever> current limiting, so you dont try to pull infinite amps from the gpio
[12:40] <clever> thats the main input
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[12:41] <clever> though it may not be needed, i'm a tad rusty on how to make a darlington pair
[12:41] <clever> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darlington_transistor and my schematic is a bit odd, since its using a different rail for each
[12:42] <gryffus> hi folks.... i have a raw rpi 2 disk image (http://images.kali.org/kali-2.0.1-rpi2.img.xz) and i would like to run it in qemu. I have installed virt-manager, but i have a problem with adding the raw image to the virtual machine. Have anyone tried this please?
[12:42] <clever> gryffus: was just reading this page about 10mins ago, https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=37386
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[12:46] <gryffus> clever: yeh i was reading that one also, but i would like to boot the image directly. i.e. use the bootloader inside the image. I'm little affraid that i don't fully understand rpi boot process...
[12:46] <clever> gryffus: the GPU loads bootcode.bin into the L1 cache
[12:46] <clever> that then fires up the ram and loads start.elf and runs that on the GPU
[12:46] <clever> that then loads kernel.img and fires up the arm
[12:47] <clever> and nothing can emulate the GPU, so you cant emulate the bootloader process
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[12:50] <Kamilion> gryffus: I should point out -- you may use a different kernel than the pi2's under qemu, if all you want is just to get into userspace and chroot around.
[12:50] <clever> you can also chroot without a full qemu-system
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[12:51] <Kamilion> a lot of the time, if you have enough knowledge of linux, you can get the desktop over a remote xserver via SSH X forwarding.
[12:52] <Kamilion> and he's gone
[12:52] <clever> that takes all of 3 keystrokes if things are working, just ssh -X rpi and you can run any gui all
[12:52] <Kamilion> doesn't work for everything, there's a lot of stuff that breaks with X over network
[12:52] <clever> it says he was last responding ~4mins ago, pretty much right when i answered, lol
[12:52] <Kamilion> and quite a number of things that rely on DRI to operate only on a local xserver (not on the pi, to my knowledge, but generally on a PC)
[12:53] <clever> ive also often turned tcp listening on in my xorg
[12:53] <clever> and just bypassed ssh entirely
[12:53] <Kamilion> on the other side; if you use x2go, that can encapsulate a lot since it's using a local x proxy before dumping it out over SSH.
[12:53] <Kamilion> then stuff like video in a browser works pretty well.
[12:54] <clever> that reminds me, i wonder if the hardware decoding can use other framebuffers now
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[12:56] <clever> Kamilion: do you know about how dispmanx works?
[12:58] <Kamilion> negative, but if you hum a few bars...
[12:58] <clever> i know how it works, and it makes forwarding video out of anything difficult
[12:59] <clever> basicaly, the GPU will composite several 2d images together, to form the image for the HDMI output
[12:59] <Kamilion> well, how does the video encoder work? Does the decoder work the same way?
[12:59] <clever> /dev/fb0 is the main image it uses 99% of the time
[12:59] <clever> omxplayer will add a second image over fb0, that renders directly to the HDMI output
[13:00] <Kamilion> an overlay, but what kind?
[13:00] <Kamilion> hardware?
[13:00] <clever> so no xorg apps can see the video
[13:00] <clever> hardware overlay
[13:00] <Kamilion> stacked frontbuffer hardware overlay?
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[13:00] <Kamilion> aye, that's correct; xorg should have no real way of digging into overlays by itself
[13:01] <clever> because of that, x11 forwarding wont be able to touch the accelerated decoding
[13:01] <Kamilion> in general, xorg itself won't use them, but some individual drivers might enable their usage with xexts
[13:01] <clever> omxplayer bypasses xorg entirely
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[13:01] <Kamilion> but depending on how the pipeline goes; it may be possible to direct that output elsewhere.
[13:01] <clever> last time i used it, it wasnt even an x11 client
[13:01] <clever> it just opened the driver interface directly as a CLI app
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[13:02] <Kamilion> which means it should have been able to use the overlay even over a bare framebuffer with CONFIG_VT running the console on it?
[13:02] <clever> yep
[13:02] <Kamilion> Clever.
[13:02] <Kamilion> er
[13:02] <clever> ive often used omxplayer without even starting x
[13:03] <Kamilion> Ugh, that's gonna get about as annoying as Man's name
[13:03] <clever> it is possible to feed the image into a buffer in userland, but that then requires more cpu power on the arm
[13:03] <clever> in theory, you could maybe use the stride to render directly into an existing image buffer
[13:03] <Kamilion> I feel so bad highlighting him when I start off a sentance with "man, this $event..."
[13:03] <clever> lol
[13:03] <clever> its his fault for picking such a common word
[13:04] <Kamilion> aye, here on freenode he's majobvman or something
[13:04] <clever> i dont get it very often, maybe once a month
[13:04] <clever> maybe i need to hang out in smarter channels, lol
[13:04] <Kamilion> Or someplace that makes more jurassic park references.
[13:05] <Kamilion> though that might insinuate you're female or something, hard to tell on IRC. Re: "Clever girl..." <Object Raptor>
[13:05] <clever> i'm a dude :P
[13:05] <Kamilion> I figured THAT.
[13:06] <Kamilion> I've been IRCing for 20 years; it's kind of obvious when a female's typing.
[13:06] <Kamilion> anyway, here nor there
[13:06] <Kamilion> back to dispmanx
[13:07] <clever> https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/blob/master/host_applications/linux/apps/hello_pi/hello_dispmanx/dispmanx.c
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[13:07] <clever> this is an example program that creates a dispmanx surface and renders to it
[13:09] <clever> https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/blob/master/host_applications/linux/apps/hello_pi/hello_video/video.c#L37
[13:10] <clever> the example video decoder is a little complicated
[13:10] <day> is there a fundamental difference between a dynamically loaded module and a kernel module? Or could i integrate the first one into the kernel as well without any modifications?
[13:10] <clever> it starts by spawning an instance of video_decode, video_render, video_scheduler, and clock, then cross-connecting them in the right manner
[13:10] <clever> day: nearly every module has the option of just being compiled into the kernel
[13:11] <clever> just change the m to a y in menuconfig
[13:11] <day> clever: i was talking about self written ones.
[13:12] <clever> day: youll need to insert your code into the kernel source (just copy the file over and edit a Makefile), then rebuild the whole kernel (and set it in menuconfig)
[13:12] <day> ty
[13:12] <clever> Kamilion: on line 96, it connects the video_decoder to the video_scheduler (it delays frames to the right interval), and also connects the clock to the video_scheduler
[13:12] <clever> and connects video_scheduler to video_render
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[13:13] <clever> forming a complete pipeline, decoder->scheduler->render
[13:13] <clever> then you just write h264 data into the decoder, and it magicalt appears on the screen, over the main fb0
[13:13] <clever> entirely undetectable to the rest of linux
[13:15] <clever> Kamilion: when i was messing with omx a few years ago, i was able to skip the video_decode stage, and read the raw frames right out of it
[13:15] <clever> oh crap, was that my problem all those years ago? lol
[13:16] <clever> oh wait no it wasnt, i remember now
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[13:16] <clever> video_decode spits out the frames in display order, but due to how h264 works, they often get encoded out of order
[13:16] <clever> because the compression just works better that way sometimes
[13:17] <clever> ffmpeg expected them to remain out of oder
[13:17] <clever> order*
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[13:18] <Kamilion> sorry, lost connection
[13:19] <clever> got scrollback?
[13:19] <Kamilion> yeah
[13:19] <Kamilion> ZNC
[13:19] <clever> nice, i just run irssi inside screen
[13:19] <Kamilion> problems with my comcast cablemodem
[13:19] <Kamilion> it really hates long-term TCP connections of any kind
[13:19] <clever> ugh
[13:19] <Kamilion> cisco DPC3939B, for anyone wondering.
[13:19] <clever> i just replaced my router last week
[13:20] <Kamilion> Comcast's current business router
[13:20] <Kamilion> http://superuser.com/questions/904478/intermittent-connection-and-firewall-blocked-log-entries-on-cisco-dpc3939b-wit
[13:20] <clever> my modem spits out 802.1q packets
[13:20] <clever> so its basicaly a vlan trunk
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[13:26] <day> Kamilion: how much power does it draw?
[13:27] <Kamilion> the cisco?
[13:27] <Kamilion> uh, lemme go look
[13:28] <clever> the thing that finaly made me switch routers, i got 6% packet loss pinging 192.168.2.1
[13:28] <clever> thats just not acceptable, lol
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[13:38] <day> Kamilion: meh dont bother.
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[13:40] <day> but i bet it, being a business product, draws 40W
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[13:55] <Kamilion> day: sorry, got distracted
[13:56] <Kamilion> says 1.1A, but I'm betting that's the maximum draw of it's switching power supply under full load
[13:56] <clever> you saw the packet loss i mentioned above?
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[13:57] <Kamilion> PIV says about a hundred wats, day
[13:57] <Kamilion> *watts
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[13:58] <Kamilion> again, that's probably max draw of it's switching power supply. I'd have to whack a kill-a-watt EZ on it to give you accurate readings.
[13:59] <Kamilion> but I can tell you the motorola surfboard SB6183 I bought to replace it uses a 12V 950mA supply
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[14:00] <Kamilion> so that's probably under 25 watts
[14:00] <Kamilion> but I've gotta add the new router in too; and that's a intel xeon E3-1220v1, which I *DO* have kill-a-watt EZ measurements for -- it uses 17 watts at idle and 23 watts under load.
[14:01] <clever> i recently replaced my router with a 2U rack mounted server
[14:01] <Kamilion> that's without any disks, only a 16GB USB stick to boot from.
[14:01] <Kamilion> https://github.com/kamilion/kamikazi-core/releases <-- you're welcome to obtain the VM stack I use :D
[14:01] <clever> though because the ISP is being a dick and not sharing the network config, the old router has to stay up in a special mode, lol
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[14:02] <Kamilion> yeah, I have exactly that problem, clever
[14:02] <teclo-> clever: great, I did that too... the only problem is the electric company bill ;)... do you know how much it costs a month, if I may ask ?
[14:02] <Kamilion> comcast gives me 5 IPs
[14:02] <clever> my ISP has created 3 uplinks with 802.1q trunking
[14:02] <Kamilion> and I have to deal with the routing of that myself once I get rid of their modem
[14:02] <clever> one uplink is for internet, dhcp gives a public ip
[14:02] <clever> one uplink is for the tv service, ive tried to reverse engineer its config, but it just aint working
[14:02] <clever> and the 3rd uplink, they BRIDGED the thing into the LAN...
[14:03] <clever> which gives them direct unfirewalled access to everything
[14:03] <Kamilion> teclo-: I'm using a 1U server, I gave wattage above.
[14:03] <clever> after doing some research online, i discovered that you can set the router to pppoe mode (the wrong one!)
[14:03] <clever> and it will still provide tv service
[14:04] <clever> but leave the internet vlan untouched
[14:04] <clever> then you can stick a 2nd router on the same modem, for internet
[14:04] <teclo-> Kamilion: because my rackmounted server uses 250 W
[14:04] <Kamilion> teclo-: if you'd like, you can drop by #kamikazi and we can discuss it.
[14:04] <teclo-> Kamilion: good :)
[14:05] <Kamilion> It sounds like you're using an old intel xeon X54xx or AMD opteron 4000 series, the ol' power hogs.
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[14:05] <clever> let me double check what ive got
[14:06] <clever> http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon800/E7520/X6DH8-XG2.cfm
[14:06] <clever> model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz
[14:07] <Kamilion> wuf, X6. I havn't seen one of those in ages.
[14:08] <Kamilion> we normally get in X8, X9, and H8s... And I know the x10s are out
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[14:08] <clever> i had 2 of those servers upstairs, both where missing a PSU, one had a heatsink falling off, and there was a PSU on the floor
[14:08] <Kamilion> heh, if you need any parts, let me know. The company I work for does end-of-life takeback for a couple large OEMs
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[14:09] <Kamilion> if you need heatsinks or fans or stuff like that, we've got loads of 'em
[14:09] <clever> i believe these where also retired from something, one obviously had the heatsink come loose
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[14:09] <clever> the hoops soldered into the 0.1" holes ripped out
[14:10] <clever> i think where also victims of PSU theft to fix a 3rd unit
[14:10] <clever> not sure why there was a fully working PSU left on the floor, my dad claims it didnt fit
[14:10] <clever> but it fit just fine
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[14:12] <Kamilion> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERMICRO-1U-Rackmount-14-Mini-Server-Case-CSE-512L-260B-Black-BAREBONE-/331620313787?hash=item4d361c6abb
[14:12] <Kamilion> we've got a lot of cheap stuff like this for newbie builders
[14:13] <clever> how do you even make the cabling fit? lol
[14:13] <Kamilion> that's like, your most super basic 1U network chassis
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[14:13] <clever> i had enough trouble just getting it to fit in a 2U
[14:13] <Kamilion> what cabling?
[14:13] <Kamilion> there shouldn't be any
[14:13] * Kamilion confused
[14:14] <clever> the PSU had just as many wires coming out of it as a typical desktop PSU
[14:14] <clever> and the only place to store all of the extra wires was right in the airflow path
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[14:15] <Kamilion> oh, i see what you mean
[14:15] <Kamilion> lemme take a picture then
[14:17] <day> Kamilion: and i thought 40W would be on the high side.:D
[14:17] <day> 100W...god bless america
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[14:19] <Kamilion> clever: https://goo.gl/photos/f3UsAFfSpf8Cvrky6
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[14:19] <Kamilion> that explain it better?
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[14:19] <clever> youve got a bit more room then i do
[14:19] <Kamilion> there's a gap between the motherboard and the power supply in all of them.
[14:19] <clever> my case has a duct around both cpu heatsinks, with barely any gap between the duct and psu
[14:20] <Kamilion> the silver one and the black one are the same case
[14:20] <Kamilion> just with a different front panel
[14:20] <clever> let me find a picture of mine
[14:20] <Kamilion> (we remove the branded silver front panel and replace it with the standard supermicro vendor front panel.
[14:20] <Kamilion> anyway, this is not pi talk so, c'mon down to #kamikazi if you wanna keep talking PCs
[14:21] <Kamilion> day: not only that, it also runs embedded windows, *AND* PHP. *shrug, helpless look*
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[14:47] <Vanfanel> Hi
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[14:47] <Vanfanel> Does anybody know why is my cross-compiler looking for crt*.o in <sysroot>/usr/lib instead of looking for them in <sysroot>/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf, and how can I change that???
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[14:54] <Kamilion> Vanfanel: check your makefile, may not be using the proper cross compiler variables?
[14:55] <Kamilion> or ./configure may need to be run to set those values, depends on your package, maybe.
[14:56] <Vanfanel> Kamilion: no makefiles involved, simpy "arm-rpi-linux-gnueabi-gcc hello.c -lSDL --sysroot=/opt/rpi_root -I/opt/rpi_root/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf -L /opt/rpi_root/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf"
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[14:56] <Vanfanel> *simply
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[14:58] <Kamilion> Vanfanel: sorry, I'm not skilled enough with raw GCC; I'm a pythonista
[14:59] <Kamilion> but I think pkgconfig is what keeps track of those paths
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[15:01] <Vanfanel> Kamilion: pkgconfig isn't involved here either, I'm passing the paths manually. But thanks anyway :)
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[15:02] <Tenkawa> hi all
[15:02] <Kamilion> Vanfanel: sorry I can't assist more.
[15:02] <Tenkawa> whats new?
[15:03] <Vanfanel> Kamilion: no problem! :)
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[15:21] <mmr> hello there
[15:23] <IT_Sean> hello where?
[15:23] <mmr> Im starting a new pet project this week. The mail goal is to have a Raspberry Pi to serve as firewall/proxy to a small LAN (3-5 devices)
[15:23] <mmr> s/mail/main/
[15:26] <Kamilion> Pi2?
[15:26] <mmr> What is the best approach on this? RPI already comes with an Ethernet card that will connect to the upstream (Internet), was thinking about connecting a new one (via USB) that will connect to a WiFi router. Would that work?
[15:26] <Kamilion> it's already usb
[15:26] <mmr> Kamilion: yes
[15:26] <mmr> I need two NICs right?
[15:27] <Kamilion> for what?
[15:27] <Kamilion> IP masq?
[15:27] <Kamilion> I've done it with one nic and vlans, before.
[15:27] <Kamilion> depends more on the switch you've got, if it can do vlan tagging and detagging or not
[15:28] <Kamilion> going to run the openwrt pi2 image?
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[15:30] <Kamilion> Don't expect the pi to be able to do a whole lot; you'll be lucky if you can switch about 4 megabytes a second over the USB ethernet adapter
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[15:30] <mmr> yes, nat
[15:30] <mmr> no switch in this story
[15:31] <mmr> just the RPI and an AP
[15:31] <Kamilion> and since it's all over one USB host port from the USB hub+nic on the pi, any other devices you add will just slow that down further
[15:31] <Kamilion> You're better off obtaining a purpouse suited device, honestly.
[15:32] <mmr> its a pet project man
[15:32] <Kamilion> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704177 + http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/archer-c5-c7-wdr7500
[15:33] <Kamilion> if you want performance per dollar, and development ability, there's a better platform.
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[15:34] <x2s> Hi. I'm fiddeling with GPIOs right now and was wondering if there's a way to do this without root permisions
[15:34] <x2s> I dislike running my stuff as root user...
[15:35] <mmr> Kamilion: thanks
[15:35] <Kamilion> x2s: I don't believe so, you're directly messing with memory mapped IO for those, so I think root access is mandatory
[15:36] <x2s> Kamilion: I really hoped someone had written a kernel driver which let's a user do this :|
[15:36] <Kamilion> mmr: Buffalo and TPlink have quite a number of inexpensive APs, when mixed with openwrt, are going to probably do the job better than a Pi would. Incedentally, there's an openwrt firmware for the pi2, in case you'd really like to try your hand at turning it into a router.
[15:37] <Kamilion> x2s: I dunno, I access gpios through sysfs
[15:37] <Kamilion> that's really slow, but I'm just using shellscript to toggle a relay most of the time, not doing anything like 25Mhz SPI to a TFT display
[15:37] <mmr> ok, I have enough info to start, thanks :)
[15:37] <mmr> cya
[15:37] <x2s> Kamilion: afaik you've got to register them first there, with root rights.
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[15:38] <skyroveRR> x2s: there's a program called "gpio" written by Gordon Henderson, you might want to check it out.
[15:38] <x2s> skyroveRR: it's running with setuid bit and I don't want to write C++ code and access programs from there
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[15:38] <Kamilion> x2s: in general, linux won't let you access a bus directly without root
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[15:39] <Kamilion> individual devices known by a driver, yes
[15:39] <Kamilion> but not the bus (and by proxy, all of the devices attached to it)
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[15:39] <Kamilion> for example, you can have userlevel access to an i2c sensor known by the kernel
[15:39] <Kamilion> but not to the i2c bus itself
[15:39] <x2s> Kamilion: well, I can think of a gpio driver which lets you do this by giving you devices and controlling the rights with udev
[15:40] <Kamilion> If you have the requisite linux knowledge; by all means; write something up so we can all benefit :D
[15:40] <x2s> so technically only allowed users would have access to certain pins/modes
[15:40] <x2s> Well, it'll take a few more years until I start writing linux device drivers ;)
[15:40] <Kamilion> you don't even have to get flamed on lkml, cause the pi's kernel is on github ;)
[15:41] <Kamilion> sounds like it's just the udev bits missing; that's not too hard of a patch.
[15:41] <Kamilion> course, the udev people will tell you "not here"
[15:42] <Kamilion> since they're now the systemd people... Kay Seivers will probably end up NAKing any patches to udev, they're busy stripping code out of it, not adding more
[15:42] <x2s> udev is for devices in /dev, so technically I'd really had to add something like /dev/gpio/<Pin Number> or something
[15:43] <x2s> it's not really fiddeling with udev here, just adding a file to udev.d/
[15:43] <x2s> *rules.d/
[15:43] <Kamilion> yeah, if you go to udev with that, kay will tell you the udev rules are for the distro to manage
[15:43] <x2s> .oO( this remindes me of the time before udev. Dark times, very dark. )
[15:44] <Kamilion> and someone else on the ML will helpfully comealong and tell you the right place for your distro, because kay won't.
[15:44] <x2s> hrhr
[15:44] * Kamilion shrugs
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[15:44] <Kamilion> I watch these lists myself; but rarely participate
[15:44] <x2s> well, it would be easy enough to tell the user "if you need another user to access a certain pin, add a udev rule yourself, it's easy"
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[15:45] <x2s> but for that you'd need a gpio driver, which exposes the pins to /dev
[15:45] <Kamilion> most of these are using /dev/mem
[15:45] <x2s> well, anyway, I let it run as root. Is only a prototype for now. Maybe I change it to something different later
[15:45] <Kamilion> which needs root no matter what
[15:46] <Kamilion> honestly?
[15:46] <x2s> e.g. a socket-implementation, with a gpiod running
[15:46] <Kamilion> look at selinux
[15:46] <Kamilion> and limit what uid0 can do
[15:46] <x2s> I keep myself from selinux as far as possible...
[15:46] <Kamilion> ...
[15:46] <x2s> still sounds like witchcraft ;)
[15:46] <Kamilion> ah, great, another botnet in the making
[15:47] <x2s> it's a prototype without internet access
[15:47] <Kamilion> no, i mean, I just met another person who turns selinux off instead of fixing one line in a config file
[15:47] <Kamilion> or just 'restorecon /path/to/file'
[15:48] <Kamilion> cause most often, it's just a missing selinux context causing the problem
[15:48] * Kamilion is grouchy about security
[15:49] * Kamilion shouts something about getting off his internet lawn, swings a cane around wildly, and falls asleep in his porch-chair
[15:50] <Kamilion> oh, x2s, I seem to recall pigpio being able to access it non-root.
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[15:50] <Kamilion> http://abyz.co.uk/rpi/pigpio/python.html
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[15:50] <Kamilion> Ah, looks like it runs a daemon to provide for non-root users?
[15:51] <x2s> I guess that's what I had in mind... I'll look into it
[15:51] <Kamilion> http://abyz.co.uk/rpi/pigpio/pigpiod.html
[15:51] <Kamilion> hm, I might actually have to mess around with that
[15:51] <Kamilion> I'm used to accessing things over unix sockets
[15:51] <x2s> I also have a problem with compiling my C++ code against the wiringPi header.
[15:52] <x2s> Some weird error and I'm not sure where it comes from
[15:52] <Kamilion> can't help you there, I'm a wee pythonista, C++ and C are not my ballgame
[15:52] <Kamilion> and at this point, I'd learn Rust instead of C
[15:52] <x2s> I love c++, at least since C++11 ;)
[15:53] <Kamilion> cause I really hate dealing with memory allocation
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[15:53] <x2s> And I think I speak C in my dreams sometimes. Coming from uCs. Fiddeling directly with the Pins, no user-rights there...
[15:53] <Kamilion> https://developer.mbed.org/users/kamilion/ <-- I've worked with it before
[15:53] <MMukherjee> 1 kib/2 = 512 bytes, equal to people on this channel - 1
[15:53] <Kamilion> MMukherjee: don't consider ChanServ to be a person, mate
[15:53] <Kamilion> 512 it is. :)
[15:54] <MMukherjee> lol, right :D
[15:54] <Kamilion> x2s: look at my uggggggly ARM code: https://developer.mbed.org/users/kamilion/code/Telnet_server/file/29f6c660d174/main.cpp
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[15:57] <x2s> Kamilion: Just split it into multiple files for serial and ethernet code and it looks just like regular microcontroller code
[15:57] <Kamilion> those are already split -- I used the mbed libraries for those.
[15:57] <x2s> And you might want to switch to interrupt based network handling
[15:58] <Kamilion> this is the only file I wrote, I used their ethernet library, their TCP library, their dma library, their serial library, their GPS library, and I think their NTP client library
[15:58] <x2s> but in most cases you'll see just a while(true) somewhere and that's it ;)
[15:58] <Kamilion> heh, that code's five years old and was long since replaced by a pi
[15:58] <x2s> Microcontrollers are damn boring, but you can make great stuff with it
[15:59] <Kamilion> that was my last foray at writing ARM code for the LPC1768, ~100Mhz ARM Cortex with I think, 128KB of ram?
[15:59] <x2s> yeah, that's where we're heading. Replacing all non-critical microcontrollers with higher level computers
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[15:59] <x2s> not a bad thing, I really like seeing linux spread as far as possible :)
[15:59] <Kamilion> the neat thing was, they stuffed another smaller ARM on the bottom linked up to the JTAG port on the top ARM, and handed it a FAT filesystem from a 2MB SPI rom also on the bottom of the board
[15:59] <Kamilion> same.
[16:00] <Kamilion> and the cost is the same too
[16:00] <Kamilion> the LPC1768 cost me about $40 in 2009
[16:00] <x2s> Development gets cheaper
[16:00] <Kamilion> now I can pull those same four serial sources in on a pi, and timestamp them, for the same price, but the code's implimented in python now.
[16:01] <Kamilion> and I can SSH in because it's linux.
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[16:01] <Kamilion> so yeah, absolutely.
[16:02] <MMukherjee> Kamilion: implemented maybe
[16:02] <Kamilion> plus with stuff like CHiP for $9 on the allwinner platform; it's really starting to get inexpensive. O
[16:02] <Kamilion> ve]
[16:02] <Kamilion> I've got a https://learn.adafruit.com/building-and-running-micropython-on-the-esp8266/overview connected to my pi right now, doing physical relay IO
[16:03] <Kamilion> it's really a weird feeling having a big python controller on the pi talking TCP over wifi to these tiny little things actually turning on and off lightbulbs in my celing
[16:04] <Kamilion> but it's SO nice being able to have individual control over each of the four florescent lamps in my office now!
[16:05] <Kamilion> and I didn't have to touch a single line of C or C++
[16:05] <Kamilion> at the moment, I'm screwing around with getting unity5 to talk to the pi as a hub and control all the connected devices
[16:06] <Hercules> Will 4.75v Android Charger work for RPi2?
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[16:06] <Kamilion> Hercules: I believe so if it can put out 1 to 2 amps. However, don't expect any devices connected on the USB ports to operate reliably besides maybe a logitech unifying tranceiver
[16:07] <Hercules> oh
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[16:08] <Kamilion> and you may encounter erratic behavior if it can only put out, say 500mA
[16:09] <Kamilion> I've goofed around with running it off of some batteries though
[16:09] <Kamilion> and it works pretty well so long as you stay right around 5 volts
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[16:09] <Kamilion> but I wouldn't really recommend doing that if you don't have a firm grasp on electronics already.
[16:10] <Kamilion> (running it off batteries from the USB port)
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[16:15] <Langley> Why isn't there someone who makes a kiosk distro for Raspberry Pi 2 :(
[16:15] <Kamilion> Hercules: I'd recommend looking for an aftermarket charger that specifies 2100mA or 2.1A charging, a lot of these will say 'charges an ipad', that's usually a good indicator they'll run a pi pretty well.
[16:15] <Kamilion> Langley: there is, need a link?
[16:15] <Langley> .... why yes
[16:16] <Kamilion> http://www.binaryemotions.com/web-kiosks/raspberry-webkiosk/
[16:16] <Hercules> Kamilion> I do have a PowerBank of 5V output, will it work?
[16:16] <Kamilion> Hercules: yes, that will probably work well, you can use your 4.75V charger to charge the power bank up
[16:16] <Langley> It works on Pi 2 too?
[16:17] <Hercules> Kamilion> Thanks :)
[16:17] <Kamilion> Langley: as far as I know, it does. It's fairly trivial to put a pi2 kernel in place
[16:18] <Kamilion> the real hard part is the rootfs
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[16:18] <x2s> Kamilion: yeah, tinkering with C and C++ is still a mess. Forgot a ; somewhere? Let's make it hell for you ;)
[16:18] <Kamilion> but a pi2 can run a pi1 rootfs, if you do a bit of simple work to add the pi2 kernel to the fat32 boot area
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[16:19] <Langley> Linux "simple work" tends to take me hours to figure out
[16:19] <Kamilion> x2s: been doing that in unity5 recently, and visual studio 2015 community edition does make it a LOT easier
[16:20] <TheLostAdmin> Visual Studio 2015 community edition?
[16:20] <Kamilion> Langley: aye, that can be the case if you're lacking in knowledge of a lot of computer fundamentals
[16:21] <Kamilion> yeah, I got it with the pi2 win10 iot thing earlier this year when it was still part of the microsoft insider program
[16:21] <Kamilion> now unity5 has a visual studio plugin that makes debugging unity apps a cinch
[16:22] <Kamilion> Still can't build armhf linux binaries though, which cheeses me off; despite the fact that it can build android binaries.
[16:22] <Kamilion> supposedly support for that is coming around 5.4
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[16:22] <TheLostAdmin> the write up amuses me, "... creating stunning applications for Windows, Android, and iOS, as well as modern web applications and cloud services"
[16:23] <Kamilion> lipservice, but it's certainly better than monodevelop or norepad++
[16:23] <Kamilion> the autocompletion is quite nice
[16:23] <Kamilion> *notepad++
[16:23] <Kamilion> I used to be content with only syntax highlighting
[16:24] <TheLostAdmin> they also don't mention any of the UNIX like OSes (other than the 2 that stripped out most of the UNIXy goodness).
[16:24] <Kamilion> now it's hard to live without pycharm autocompleting python for me, and visual studio autocompleting C# and C++
[16:24] <Kamilion> unity's C# on mono
[16:24] <Kamilion> so it can build linux executables
[16:25] <Kamilion> can also build android apks, but apparently won't use that compliler to build non-android armhf linux executables
[16:25] <Kamilion> so I can't make an ARM7 build of a unity game for a pi2, for example.
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[16:29] <Kamilion> oh, whoa, color me wrong
[16:29] <Kamilion> Apparently it IS a supported target for "Windows Universal App" on the win10iot pi2 image
[16:29] <Kamilion> just dog slow
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[16:30] <Kamilion> http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/anyone-else-actually-deploy-a-universal-app-to-the-raspberry-pi.353820/
[16:30] <Kamilion> neat! I'm gonna try that later this week!
[16:30] <Kamilion> since I'm just doing some basic unity 4.6+ UI stuff
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[16:35] <Kamilion> cool, just got a confirmation on #unity3d that it should work
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[16:57] <choki> Which LXDE theme does raspbian use? It looks so great I love it! =)
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[17:07] <Technicus> Hello, how do I send X terminal output to the background?
[17:07] <gryffus> hi folks.... i'm trying the raw kali linux rpi 2 disk image (http://images.kali.org/kali-2.0.1-rpi2.img.xz) and i would like to run it in qemu. I have installed virt-manager, but i have a problem with adding the raw image to the virtual machine. Have anyone tried this please? I need to debug whole boot process, because i need to user ssh server in initrd and it's not working...
[17:07] <Technicus> I am starting X remotely via ssh. https://gist.github.com/Technicus/67416d6a485c1735f4e4
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[17:08] <Technicus> After I enter the password X starts but hangs on to the terminal.
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[17:09] <Technicus> To release it I must press ctl c. Is there another way I can convince X to give the terminal back to me?
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[17:10] <gryffus> I have followed this guide https://www.offensive-security.com/kali-linux/raspberry-pi-luks-disk-encryption/ , but my rpi is not trying to get an IP via DHCP, so i cannot connect to it to decrypt root partition. Any hints please?
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[17:10] <TheLostAdmin> Start X as a background task, Technicus.
[17:11] <gryffus> modify the script so it looks like this: "ssh pi@192.168.1.130 "xinit -- :1 &" > ~/Utilities/Logs/xinit.log 2>&1"
[17:11] <TheLostAdmin> Plus, "startx" is the traditional command for starting X from the command line. Generally xinit isn't called directly but only through scripts.
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[17:15] <regum> hello everyone
[17:15] <regum> I am trying to boot to the command line with ubuntu 14 arm running on a raspberry pi 2, how can I go about doing this?
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[17:17] <Kamilion> regum: add 'single' to the kernel parameters
[17:17] <Kamilion> or reset the default runlevel that upstart uses
[17:18] <regum> where can I find the kernel parameters?
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[17:18] <Kamilion> on the fat32 volume where the kernel and configuration files are.
[17:18] <niston> cmdline.txt or something
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[17:19] <regum> ok, i'll check cmdline.txt
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[17:20] <regum> this is what I've got:
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[17:21] <regum> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait
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[17:22] <regum> do I add 'single' at the end?
[17:23] <hpekdemir> do you think it's worth the money for a new RPi?
[17:23] <hpekdemir> the RPi 2 Model B.
[17:23] <hpekdemir> now I'm using the RPi Model B.
[17:23] <TheLostAdmin> That depends on what you want to do with it, hpekdemir.
[17:24] <hpekdemir> TheLostAdmin: carpc. with kodi/xbmc, some self built LED switches, controlling via WebUI.
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[17:24] <hpekdemir> and the like.
[17:24] <TheLostAdmin> It will transcode a LOT faster, so maybe worth is for kodi.
[17:25] <hpekdemir> the customer who will use this carPC will mainly use it for watching movies and listening to music with his hifi car audio setup.
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[17:26] <TheLostAdmin> In that case I don't know.
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[17:29] <hpekdemir> in that case?
[17:30] <hpekdemir> he will watch movies with kodi. so if the transcoding is a LOT faster. it's good to use the faster one for this :)
[17:30] <regum> Kamilion, niston, thanks, that did it!
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[17:44] <gryffus> hi folks.... i'm trying the raw kali linux rpi 2 disk image (http://images.kali.org/kali-2.0.1-rpi2.img.xz) and i would like to run it in qemu. I have installed virt-manager, but i have a problem with adding the raw image to the virtual machine. Have anyone tried this please? I need to debug whole boot process, because i need to user ssh server in initrd and it's not working...
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[17:45] <gryffus> I have followed this guide https://www.offensive-security.com/kali-linux/raspberry-pi-luks-disk-encryption/ , but my rpi is not trying to get an IP via DHCP, so i cannot connect to it to decrypt root partition. Any hints please? (sorry for repost)
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[17:52] <gryffus> ok so the short question would be: How do i enable initramfs with embedded ssh server and dhcp client in rpi 2?
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[18:26] <Technicus> gryffus: TheLostAdmin: Thanks. Here is what works for me: https://gist.github.com/Technicus/67416d6a485c1735f4e4 I'll probably put some logic to check if there is already an instance of X. Maybe even put it in a script on the pi and then call the script from remote. Are there utilities for this already?
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[18:46] <srj55> i'm running transmission on rpi2. Used to load fine on startup, then changed my config to point to my external USB HD, now it "loads", but netstat says its not listening on port 9091. If I then manually start the service, it works. Could it be that I need a delay on startup so the service starts a bit later? How do I do this?
[18:49] <Xenthys> I'd personnally disable the auto-start and create a simple script "run-transmission.sh" containing a sleep then the start command
[18:49] <Xenthys> then I'll put that script in root's crontab, @reboot
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[18:50] <IT_Sean> Woah.
[18:50] <IT_Sean> Damn.
[18:50] <srj55> Xenthys: ok, but it wouldn't handle restart on crash etc. that you get when you use initd ?
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[18:52] <Xenthys> the run-transmission.sh script would have the "service transmission start" command, not a manual run
[18:52] <Xenthys> the point is just to delay the "service start"
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[18:53] <srj55> ah ok. no simpler way in raspbian to say don't start these 4-5 services until usb ready, or just say delay an extra 5 seconds
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[18:54] <Xenthys> I don't know if there is a simpler way, I'm just telling a possible and lazy way :P
[18:55] <srj55> ok, thanks
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[19:03] <Technicus> how do I change screen dimension when connected to a desktop through vnc?
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[19:37] <choki> Is there an option for omxplayer to hide the "seek" text when a video is in loop?
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[19:39] <CoJaBo> choki: --no-osd ?
[19:39] <Technicus> What services are necessary to setup raspberry pi as an access point, which serves only one page?
[19:40] <CoJaBo> Lots
[19:41] <CoJaBo> Technicus: What are you trying to do exactly?
[19:41] <pksato> Technicus: a master capable wifi usb dongle, hostapd, some httpd, some dns server, etc.
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[19:43] <Technicus> CoJaBo: I'm taking pictures/video with the raspberry pi. I want to access the media, by configuring the pi as an access point and connecting to it. Then having a webpage that will let a person watch the videos or look at the video stream, or download the media.
[19:43] <Technicus> The device connected could be a phone or a computer, whatever can connect to it.
[19:44] <pksato> Technicus: http://elinux.org/RPI-Wireless-Hotspot
[19:44] <Technicus> pksato: what services does etc entail?
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[19:45] <pksato> etc lots of etc.
[19:45] <Xenthys> Technicus: you may be interested by mjpg-streamer
[19:45] <CoJaBo> Technicus: Can't put it on the internet or a network?
[19:45] <pksato> not need nat and forwarding things.
[19:45] <CoJaBo> Technicus: There's a TON of gotchas when trying to run an AP like that
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[19:45] <Technicus> I see.
[19:47] <CoJaBo> Technicus: Most devices expect to have internet when connected to wifi; connecting to a stand-alone AP will produce a ton of error messages. Even the browser will go straight to an error page when opened, which isn't very user-friendly.
[19:47] <Technicus> What is a lightweight application for viewing/recording usb camera video streams/recordings
[19:47] <Technicus> viewing and recording on the pi at the same time?
[19:48] <Technicus> I know I am asking three different questions at the same time.
[19:49] <Xenthys> Technicus: mjpg-streamer is great, you can define on which address the service will be bound
[19:49] <Technicus> But I am trying to get a sense of the different utilities.
[19:49] <pksato> today browser, if type myintranet go to search, instead make connection to local server. :P
[19:50] <Technicus> What is it like viewing the stream on the raspberry pi while recording? Does it require having a browser open?
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[19:51] <CoJaBo> wat
[19:51] <Technicus> There are a few different reasons for my questions.
[19:52] <Technicus> I want to capture the video and view it at the same time, but with something that is more light weight than a browser.
[19:52] <pksato> to view on raspberry pi?
[19:52] <Technicus> On the raspberry pi 2.
[19:53] <pksato> or better, on same rpi that capture?
[19:53] <Technicus> Yes.
[19:53] <pksato> camera modules?
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[19:53] <Technicus> USB.
[19:53] <pksato> or usb camera?
[19:54] <Technicus> I understand that I am asking a lot from the raspberry pi to do this.
[19:54] <Technicus> That is why I am seeking out light weight utilities.
[19:55] <Technicus> Thanks for the help and suggestions, but I have to go. Chat with you later :)
[19:55] <Xenthys> see you guy
[19:55] <Technicus> I'll try the mjpg-streamer
[19:56] <Xenthys> but you'll need a browser
[19:56] <Xenthys> and I don't know if it works with a USB camera, it should anyway
[19:56] <pksato> most capture/encoder can stream to multiple output.
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[19:57] <pksato> like ffmpeg.
[19:57] <Xenthys> Yeah, first I thought he would use a connected device (like a tablet) to see the video stream
[19:58] <pksato> ffmpeg with on output to file and other to pipe ot fifo.
[19:58] <Xenthys> but as I only used mjpg-streamer, I didn't say anything after that as I don't know which software would fit better
[19:58] <CoJaBo> Is ffmpeg accelerated on the pi?
[19:58] <pksato> I think so. vlc is.
[19:59] * CoJaBo has been meaning to set up an rpi as a security cam
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[20:03] <edjuh> CoJaBo: would it help ?
[20:03] <CoJaBo> edjuh: ?
[20:03] <edjuh> in most countries you are not allowed to use the footage
[20:03] <CoJaBo> ..wat?
[20:04] <edjuh> rpi security cam etc etc ..
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[20:04] <CoJaBo> I'm not aware of any country where cameras are illegal
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[20:04] <CoJaBo> Maybe N. Korea
[20:04] <Xenthys> for a private use, I don't think it would be a problem
[20:04] <edjuh> camera is not illegal, its usage is
[20:05] <edjuh> you can not always use the footage as evidence, that is my point
[20:05] <Xenthys> you may need to put a clear sign saying "You are being monitored." in some countries
[20:05] <edjuh> Xenthys, indeed
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[20:06] <edjuh> and if you are not filming your own physical boundary it will not be used/permitted in court
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[20:06] <edjuh> so your own car, in a public parkinglot is a no go
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[20:07] <dixieflatline> test test
[20:07] <edjuh> And to make matters worst, would it help as a prevention ?
[20:07] <CoJaBo> edjuh: ..what country is that lol
[20:08] <edjuh> CoJaBo, apart from which countries, answer my question please
[20:08] <CoJaBo> What was the question?
[20:08] <edjuh> Would a camera help as a prevention ?
[20:09] <CoJaBo> Prevention for what?
[20:09] <edjuh> you mentioned to use a rpi as a security cam
[20:09] <dixieflatline> _
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[20:10] <CoJaBo> ..yes?
[20:10] <edjuh> so, please define security in your intended application
[20:10] <CoJaBo> "It records video"
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[20:11] <edjuh> I can guess your nationality, or even voting preference ....
[20:11] <Xenthys> if someone is breaking through your door, taking your TV then running away, you can prove he took your TV
[20:11] <edjuh> Yes Xenthys
[20:11] <edjuh> but it did not prevent that
[20:12] <CoJaBo> edjuh: Probably; this is IRC, that's not hard :P
[20:12] <CoJaBo> Then no, security cameras don't prevent anything. How could they, they're just cameras?
[20:12] <edjuh> that would be cheating
[20:12] <edjuh> so what is their use ?
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[20:13] <CoJaBo> If something happens, I have evidence of it.
[20:13] <edjuh> Could you not spend the money on something preventive ?
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[20:13] <CoJaBo> It would cost $0
[20:13] <CoJaBo> Broken webcam + pi that already runs the TV.
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[20:14] <edjuh> If indoors, you might have evidence, but would that aid the police in catching the criminal ?
[20:14] <CoJaBo> Probably.
[20:14] <Xenthys> it could
[20:14] <CoJaBo> It's usually outdoors here
[20:14] <edjuh> In Europe it is not much used, is my experience
[20:15] <CoJaBo> People are fricking nutjobs around here
[20:15] <edjuh> outdoors is not a good thing here
[20:15] <edjuh> define ' here ' please ?
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[20:15] <edjuh> again, I am not cheating
[20:16] <CoJaBo> US
[20:16] <edjuh> eastcoast ... NJ ?
[20:17] <CoJaBo> Not that far off
[20:17] * edjuh throws in the wildcard :)
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[20:17] <edjuh> mass / ny ..
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[20:18] <edjuh> Well. I am dutch ... So you're N-Korea was a miss
[20:19] <CoJaBo> That wasn't intended as a guess
[20:19] <edjuh> I know that
[20:19] <pksato> rpi as security camera? Is not expensive? Can buy one with wifi/sd/eth/etc for lest that $40
[20:19] <CoJaBo> It was an example of a "place where cameras are illegal" :P
[20:19] <edjuh> come'on, a bit of leg-pulling in a discussion makes it lively
[20:19] <Xenthys> CoJaBo: if only cameras were illegal in NK x)
[20:19] <CoJaBo> pksato: I have 3 rpis now, not exactly in short supply :P
[20:20] <edjuh> But as an example, London now has 19.000 camera's in the public domain
[20:20] <edjuh> it aided in solving 15 criminal cases in 2013
[20:20] <CoJaBo> [citation needed]
[20:20] <Xenthys> better than nothing
[20:20] <edjuh> criminality has not dropped a bit
[20:21] <CoJaBo> I'm pretty sure cameras were used in solving 15 here, and I'm in the middle of nowhere.
[20:21] <edjuh> aided, not was the prime evidence
[20:21] <CoJaBo> That's the point :P
[20:22] <edjuh> If it helps, and is used, go for it
[20:22] <CoJaBo> I'd love to have a forcefield too, but those don't exist yet.
[20:22] <edjuh> here it is no use at all
[20:22] <choki> CoJaBo: there is no such option? O_o
[20:22] <edjuh> HAHA
[20:22] <edjuh> forcefield hmmm, good one
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[20:22] <CoJaBo> choki: ?
[20:22] <choki> CoJaBo: --no-osd
[20:23] <choki> omxplayer doesnt have this option
[20:23] <CoJaBo> ..I could swear mine did
[20:23] <CoJaBo> Older version?
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[20:23] <choki> nah just installed
[20:23] <groupers> you can just buy a networked camera. the cost of a pi, webcam, power adapter, sdcard, case surely adds up to more than a cheap ip camera
[20:24] <CoJaBo> groupers: I already have the pi, and I already have a couple usb cameras
[20:24] <CoJaBo> So it's actually a lot cheaper :P
[20:24] <groupers> I had my 1080P webcam hooked up to my first gen pi B+ and it could only do like 0.5 fps
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[20:25] <choki> CoJaBo: i also can't this option here https://github.com/huceke/omxplayer/blob/master/README.md are you sure this exists in omxplayer?
[20:25] <CoJaBo> I'm hoping to get slightly more than that
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[20:25] <CoJaBo> choki: It's in the manpage --no-osd Do not display status information on screen
[20:25] <groupers> the only way to get smooth video was to turn the resolution so low that it was worthlessly poor quality
[20:26] <CoJaBo> Build date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:49:30 +0000
[20:26] <CoJaBo> Version : 337004e [master]
[20:26] <CoJaBo> groupers: What was the limiting factor there, do you know?
[20:26] <groupers> of course that was with motion so if you just go for 24/7 recording I imagine it would be a higher framerate
[20:26] <CoJaBo> Yeh, this would just be straight record
[20:26] <CoJaBo> I've had terrible luck with motion-detect in the past
[20:26] <groupers> CPU basically maxed out with motion trying to process high resolution images
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[20:27] <CoJaBo> I have a stack of 80gig drives nearly to the ceiling
[20:27] <CoJaBo> I could even see optimizing that; run motion on a scaled copy, record to h264 at full res when something happens
[20:27] <groupers> heh me too but they've all 40-pin ide. I'm just procrastinating wiping them before throwing them out
[20:28] <groupers> they must use loads of power
[20:28] <CoJaBo> All of these are already wiped
[20:28] <Xenthys> groupers: wipe them with a drill.
[20:28] <choki> CoJaBo: lol no i can't even find something about osd if i use github search wtf
[20:28] <CoJaBo> I have a bunch of USB-to-IDE enclosuers and converters; 80GB would be more than plenty, but it'd put one back to work
[20:29] <choki> CoJaBo: we talkin about the same repo from huceke?
[20:29] <CoJaBo> choki: run omxplayer -v; whats it say?
[20:29] <groupers> Xenthys: yes that's probably what I'll end up doing
[20:29] <CoJaBo> For some newer ones, I just used a screwdriver
[20:29] <groupers> cojabo check out motionpi
[20:30] <groupers> you can disable the motion detection
[20:30] <edjuh> good hint of groupers
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[20:45] <choki> CoJaBo: omxplayer --version 12. September 2015
[20:45] <CoJaBo> choki: ..that's not even in the same format lol
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[20:46] <CoJaBo> No idea then; must've been removed
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[20:47] <sliddis> ssh -L 8888:www.facebook.com:443 sliddis@myremoteraspberry.pi
[20:48] <sliddis> then I should be able to do localhost:8888 and come to facebook, right?
[20:48] <choki> CoJaBo: u lie to me :D there is not eve a search result on google for your option ^^
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[21:15] <CoJaBo> choki: Google doesn't do well for command line options
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[21:15] <choki> i thought i find at least the manpage entry
[21:16] <CoJaBo> choki: https://github.com/42loop/omxplayer42/blob/master/README.md#synopsis
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[21:16] <alkisg> Hello, someone sent me a raspberry pi 2 but I can't power it on... is it supposed to power on when I plug its AC adapter? It shows a red light for 3 seconds, then a green light for 1 second, then no light at all. It does power on a USB keyboard...
[21:16] <CoJaBo> Also, https://github.com/popcornmix/omxplayer#synopsis for some reason
[21:17] <CoJaBo> alkisg: Power supply is bad
[21:17] <alkisg> Am I supposed to short-circuit any pins to power it on?
[21:17] <choki> CoJaBo: Why do you use this fork? Whats different with?
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[21:17] <CoJaBo> choki: It's the one that comes with raspian
[21:17] <choki> no
[21:17] <alkisg> CoJaBo: I have 3 power supplys and 3 PIs, he tested them before sending them to me... hmmm
[21:17] <CoJaBo> ?
[21:17] <IT_Sean> alkisg: No, do not short any pins. Do you have an SD card in it with an OS ?
[21:18] <alkisg> IT_Sean: I appears to have an os in it, yes
[21:18] <alkisg> A fat 32 partition with a kernel and some txt files etc
[21:18] <IT_Sean> "it appears"? Did you write the boot image ot the SD card?
[21:18] <alkisg> He probably prepared the SD cards before he sent them to me
[21:18] <alkisg> When the PI is powered on, is it supposed to have a led light?
[21:18] <IT_Sean> Sounds like it can't read the SD. Try rewriting it.
[21:19] <CoJaBo> Do any of the pis power on?
[21:19] <IT_Sean> the red LED is power, the green is SD activity.
[21:19] <alkisg> So if both the lights go off, it means the power is bad?
[21:19] <IT_Sean> the red LED should stay lit.
[21:19] <CoJaBo> Almost always, yes
[21:19] <IT_Sean> no red LED = no powah
[21:20] <alkisg> Thank you guys, I'll try to ask him if he verified that they were working then...
[21:20] <CoJaBo> Are you using your PSU or his?
[21:20] <alkisg> His, but I also tried a mobile phone charger of mine with 2 A
[21:20] <alkisg> Sorry, 1.2 A
[21:20] <CoJaBo> Do any of them work?
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[21:21] <alkisg> And another one of 2 A... No, all show the same symptoms
[21:21] <alkisg> Red light for 3 seconds, green for 1, then black
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[21:21] <CoJaBo> On all 3 pis?
[21:21] <alkisg> Yes
[21:21] <IT_Sean> try a different USB cable between the PSU and the Pi.
[21:21] <CoJaBo> ^
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[21:21] <alkisg> OK, although one was from his PSU, and the other 2 from my phone adapters...
[21:22] <alkisg> So 3 different tries so far
[21:22] * alkisg tests more...
[21:22] <IT_Sean> make sure to use a good cable, and not some whun hung lo peice of crap.
[21:22] <CoJaBo> What happens if you remove the SD card?
[21:22] <alkisg> Let me check
[21:23] <alkisg> CoJaBo: progress, the red light is on now!
[21:23] <alkisg> I'll try to remake the SD card
[21:23] <alkisg> What's the proposed OS?
[21:23] <IT_Sean> if that fails, try a different SD card entirely.
[21:24] <IT_Sean> try raspbian for now.
[21:24] <alkisg> Thank you IT_Sean, will do, afaik raspbian would be the best for my needs, nice to have a verification there
[21:25] <JDAIII> I can't seem to use raspi-config to expand my root partition to fill the rest of the SD card. I have tried fdisk, but the partitions only show up for fdisk -l, and does not print after I enter fdisk using fdisk /dev/mmcblk0p3. p lists nothing. And when I use parted /dev/mmcblk0p3, it only lists the partitions when I use print all and not print. And it says that the partition doesn't exist when I type rm 3. And all of this came about becau
[21:25] <JDAIII> se I get the error /dev/root is not the last partition. Don't know how to expand
[21:25] <choki> JDAIII: did u start raspi-config with `sudo`?
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[21:29] <JDAIII> started it with sudo and from the root user
[21:31] <JDAIII> I know one mistake I made was using the nagiosPi image. I am considering just wiping and starting form scratch
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[21:34] <JDAIII> But I'd prefer to get around this and continue from where I am
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[21:38] <JDAIII> I'm just going to wipe and reinstall
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[22:59] <regum> hello everyone, I have a problem with sshing into my raspberry
[23:00] <regum> it is currently runing ubuntu 14 arm, and I want it to boot into the command line. To do that, I have added 'single' to /boot/cmdline.txt, so now it starts in text mode as root
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[23:00] <regum> the problem is that until I sign in as a username, I can't access it via ssh
[23:00] <regum> how can I fix this?
[23:00] <regum> I'd like to just turn it on and be able to control it from another computer
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[23:01] <regum> no keyboard, no display nada
[23:01] <regum> just a wifi dongle
[23:01] <regum> thanks!
[23:01] <choki> regum: did u enable ssh with raspi-config?
[23:02] <regum> I am running ubuntu, so I don't have raspi-config, but I can ssh into it once I log in
[23:02] <choki> oh
[23:02] <choki> sorry idk about ubuntu image
[23:02] <regum> the problem is that I'd like not to have to plug a keyboard, log in and then disconnect it every time I turn it on
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[23:03] <choki> i know
[23:03] <regum> it's ok, thanks for your answer
[23:03] <choki> i guess you need to enable ssh daemon on startup xD
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[23:03] <regum> it does start up, that's the thing
[23:03] <regum> it starts up as root, I can do stuff as root
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[23:04] <regum> but until I log into a user I can't use ssh
[23:04] <regum> which is weird
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[23:04] <selckin> why did you add single
[23:04] <choki> selckin: he dont want to boot into gui
[23:04] <regum> so that it would boot without gui
[23:04] <selckin> don't install a gui..
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[23:04] <choki> xD
[23:05] <regum> I needed lubuntu
[23:05] <regum> nd still do for some things
[23:05] <choki> u can run lubuntu on the pi?
[23:05] <regum> yeah
[23:05] <regum> it works quite well
[23:05] <choki> is there an arm version of lubuntu?
[23:05] <regum> yes, wait a sec
[23:06] <regum> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[23:06] <regum> there you go
[23:06] <choki> oh ty didnt know
[23:06] <regum> np
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[23:09] <choki> sorry i couldn help
[23:09] <choki> :'(
[23:09] <regum> np thanks for answering
[23:09] <choki> u nice one! =)
[23:10] <alkisg> CoJaBo, IT_Sean, my RPIs are up and running, the problem was the SD card - thanks a lot.
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