#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-10-28

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[0:03] <pksato> using a servo http://mohacks.com/project-open-door-via-text-message/
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[0:12] <nautilus69> holy f'ing crap this is a difficult channel to get into
[0:12] <pksato> http://makezine.com/2012/03/30/upgrade-your-office-with-an-rfid-reading-door/
[0:14] <nautilus69> hello, does anyone have any experiance with buildroot? particularly with the raspberry pi? looking for some help building some images
[0:15] <pksato> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arduino_String_Door_Opener_1.JPG
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[0:28] <Berg> bingo pksato
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[0:30] <pksato> google wins.
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[2:19] <turtlehat> any hints on what usb audio interface i should pick if i want low latency audio?
[2:19] <turtlehat> or perhaps i2s
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[2:39] <SpeedEvil> I2S is in principle lots better
[2:39] <SpeedEvil> I don't know how it's impleemented in the pi
[2:41] <turtlehat> i am using a pi2, i think it is, but gotta run, thanks
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[3:33] <Bhaal> I really hate it when a Pi doesn't come back from a reboot after an upgrade....
[3:33] <Bhaal> Especially when it's a pain to access when it's raining...
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[3:39] <Bhaal> Ahuh!
[3:39] <Bhaal> It changed IPs
[3:39] <SirLagz> sigdk: how did you go with that image shrinker script?
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[4:30] <linuxmint> Can a Raspberry Pi power all 4 USB ports, whilst being powered from a USB port?
[4:31] <hinv> linuxmint, it's all how the amps add up
[4:31] <hinv> I think the power input port can take 2amps, so that would mean
[4:31] <linuxmint> hinv: wow, that's technical. How would an end user be able to check?
[4:32] <hinv> things start getting wonky when you draw too much power
[4:32] <hinv> what is the other end of the usb port?
[4:32] <linuxmint> Yes, must be why my keyboard and mouse have no power on the Raspberry Pi 2.
[4:33] <hinv> if you are driving it from a typical computer USB port, then no, probably not
[4:33] <linuxmint> 1 keyboard, mouse, Wi-Fi dongle and Bluetooth dongle.
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[4:33] <hinv> do you have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse?
[4:33] <linuxmint> so, I guess I have to buy a power supply of some sort. Hope I buy the right power source and don't blow up the new Raspberry Pi 2.
[4:33] <hinv> those wifi dongles can use a lot of power
[4:33] <hinv> what is your current power source?
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[4:34] <linuxmint> I was attempting to connect a Bluetooth keyboard. In the process I had 4 USBs plugged in, however normally, 3 USBs would be used. I.e., mouse, Wi-Fi dongle and Bluetooth dongle to the Bluetooth keyboard(once installed).
[4:34] <linuxmint> I'm powering from a computer USB.
[4:34] <hinv> yeah, that would be a problem
[4:35] <hinv> especially with my old keyboard....sucks a lot of juice
[4:35] <hinv> actually it is PS/2, so never mind that
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[4:35] <hinv> but I am typing on a 20 year old SGI keyboard
[4:35] <linuxmint> k. Looks like I scrap the Bluetooth keyboard then, until I find what is a correct power source.
[4:35] <hinv> it is very durable and has a good feel
[4:36] <hinv> how about a wifi mouse?
[4:36] <hinv> I mean a bluetooth mouse?
[4:36] <linuxmint> No Wi-Fi mouse, just Wi-Fi Internet.
[4:36] <linuxmint> Is your keyboard ergonomic?
[4:37] <linuxmint> I have a small keyboard connected, but was going to try a smaller wrap up Bluetooth keyboard.
[4:37] <linuxmint> Sorry, I'm not using a USB power. I'm using an electricity plug.
[4:38] <linuxmint> Input: 100-240V~50/60 Hz 1.0 A. Output: 5V-1A.
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[4:39] <linuxmint> Whatever that means?
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[4:39] <methuzla> input is AC pretty much anywhere on the planet, output is DC at 5 volts and 1 amp
[4:40] <linuxmint> k, as long as it can make the Raspberry Pi 2 work, I'm happy.
[4:42] <methuzla> default settings limit 600mA total for USB peripherals, so you may be exceeding that
[4:43] <methuzla> this can be changed by setting max_usb_current=1 in config.txt
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[4:43] <methuzla> but that ups it to 1.2A, so you may get brown outs since your supply is only rated 1A
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[4:46] <linuxmint> k, I'll see if I can get the Raspberry Pi 2 to boot with keyboard and mouse so I can edit the max_usb setting.
[4:46] <gorroth> gordonDrogon: when you use a bootloader on the avr chips, have you ever had the problem where the bootloader will write to the flash section but then crash when trying to jump to 0x0000? like, i can get my bootloader to write to flash, but then i have to reset lock bits to 0x00 (fully locked) in order for bootloader to successfully jump to my uploaded code
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[4:51] <linuxmint> Can I access config.txt from Raspberry Pi 2's Terminal, or do I need to insert the MicroSD into the card reader? I'm hoping for Terminal which is less of a stretch :-)
[4:51] <methuzla> terminal. just edit /boot/config.txt
[4:53] <linuxmint> k, I'll add the line, as nothing there for uncommenting.
[4:53] <methuzla> and reboot
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[5:02] <linuxmint> k, that seems to have worked, thanks :-)
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[5:03] <linuxmint> So, now back to the original issue. The Bluetooth keyboard won't add to the Raspberry Pi. Here's the process I put together from numerous forums' suggestions. I'm stuck at Enter passkey, which only gives me 2 seconds and the Bluetooth Keyboard won't input anyways. http://dpaste.com/0Z05GKR
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[5:04] <linuxmint> Other issue, is now the Wi-Fi dongle which was working, now says on Desktop: No wireless interfaces found.
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[5:14] <JakeSays> so i'm wanting to know if there's advantages to upgrading to jessie.
[5:15] <linuxmint> JakeSays: no, I'm having heaps of problems. E.g. Wi-Fi and Bluetooth interface. Wheezy was better for me.
[5:16] <JakeSays> dang - i was hoping wife would improve
[5:16] <JakeSays> lol wifi
[5:16] <JakeSays> wife is perfect
[5:17] <Jack64> hah, funny
[5:17] <Jack64> I had to upgrade to jessie due to libc requirements
[5:17] <linuxmint> shouldn't be that hard. I have the same settings as on Wheezy with the dongle, but GUI is VERY buggy. I've used CLI, but still not fixed.
[5:17] <Jack64> nothing broke
[5:17] <Jack64> ah, my setup is headless tho
[5:17] <JakeSays> yeah so is mine
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[5:18] <JakeSays> i've had issues with wifi since day one
[5:18] <JakeSays> its gotten better though
[5:18] <Jack64> ah so that's unrelated to wheezy/jessie
[5:18] <Jack64> pis are picky with wifi cards
[5:19] <JakeSays> i can keep a connection for several days before the dongle shuts down
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[5:19] <JakeSays> wish there was a way to cycle it w/o unplugging it
[5:19] <Jack64> ifdown/ifup ?
[5:20] <JakeSays> well, its headless, so kinda hard to test
[5:20] <Jack64> crontab
[5:20] <JakeSays> but i seem to recall reading somewhere that won't work
[5:20] <Jack64> hmm depends on your issue I'm guessing
[5:21] <JakeSays> the dongle just starts acting like it disappeared
[5:21] <Jack64> so no more wlan0?
[5:22] <JakeSays> actually, come to think of it, i tried some bash script that was supposed to detect the drop and ifdown/up, but i'm not convinced it really did anything
[5:22] <JakeSays> so i should probably try again
[5:23] <Jack64> depends on exactly what happens to the wifi connection
[5:23] <JakeSays> i'll write a c# app that constantly pings another box, and have it do ifdown/up
[5:23] <Jack64> if you just lose ip, the ifdown ifup cycling should work
[5:23] <Jack64> yep that works
[5:23] <JakeSays> its more than that. the light on the dongle goes off
[5:23] <Jack64> but c# seems too hard
[5:24] <gorroth> gordonDrogon: oh man... finally got it. i think the SPM might have still been busy. adding a second boot_rww_enable() fixed it
[5:24] <Jack64> that's like 3 lines of bash
[5:24] <JakeSays> Jack64: not for me - i know c# like the back of my hand
[5:24] <Jack64> great, go for it then :)
[5:24] <JakeSays> *much* better than i know bash
[5:24] <JakeSays> unfortunately
[5:25] <Jack64> bash is damn useful sometimes
[5:25] <JakeSays> it is but i just dont use it often enough to get good at it
[5:25] <Jack64> I hear ya
[5:26] <JakeSays> let me see if i can find the log entries for the last time i lost the connection
[5:28] <JakeSays> actually if i could get ip over bluetooth working between a pi and an android device i'd be set
[5:28] <JakeSays> or ip over usb
[5:28] <Jack64> hmm
[5:28] <Jack64> ip over usb might be tricky
[5:29] <Jack64> cause the pi is a host device
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[5:29] <Jack64> why not just ethernet?
[5:30] <JakeSays> no connection
[5:30] <JakeSays> its an odd situation
[5:30] <JakeSays> i've built an alarm clock that is driven by a pi, but managed from an android device
[5:30] <JakeSays> an old android phone
[5:30] <Jack64> huh interesting
[5:31] <JakeSays> so either bt or ip/usb would be ideal so i wouldn't have to involve a network
[5:31] <Jack64> I've been meaning to muck with my espresso machine, see if I can trigger it eith a pi :)
[5:31] <JakeSays> lol
[5:32] <JakeSays> this is a special alarm clock. it vibrates to wake me up
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[5:32] <Jack64> nice
[5:32] <methuzla> what's wrong with using network?
[5:32] <JakeSays> methuzla: well, for one, the wifi connection is unreliable
[5:33] <JakeSays> Jack64: heh. i actually also use the alarm clock pi to run an irc bouncer.
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[5:33] <Jack64> I'd have an alarm clock that said "Your morning coffee will be served in 60seconds."
[5:33] <JakeSays> Jack64: my phone probably isn't a usb host, is it?
[5:34] <Jack64> that'd make it easier to wake up :)
[5:34] <JakeSays> Jack64: yeah but that wont wake me up
[5:34] <Jack64> no, it's a client
[5:34] <Jack64> unless...
[5:34] <Jack64> you get an OTG cable
[5:34] <Jack64> actually
[5:34] <JakeSays> whats an otg cable?
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[5:34] <Jack64> with usb + android
[5:34] <Jack64> you can use adb
[5:35] <Jack64> on the pi
[5:35] <JakeSays> ohhh
[5:35] <JakeSays> very interesting
[5:35] <Jack64> indeed
[5:35] <Jack64> you do need a special arm adb tho
[5:35] <JakeSays> i should be able to build one, i would think
[5:35] <Jack64> but it works great
[5:36] <Jack64> building it takes a long time tho
[5:36] <Jack64> I couldn't do it..
[5:37] <JakeSays> why not?
[5:37] <Jack64> some error requiring x86
[5:37] <Jack64> can't recall right now
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[5:39] <Jack64> so I just grabbed the built one
[5:40] <JakeSays> a ok
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[5:40] <JakeSays> yeah i'd much rather go the prebuilt way
[5:40] <JakeSays> so adb should allow me to connect the two via usb?
[5:41] <Jack64> yea, you get a shell and everything :)
[5:41] <JakeSays> excellent
[5:42] <Jack64> a shell on the phone via the pi I mean
[5:42] <JakeSays> right
[5:42] <JakeSays> do you recall where you got the binary?
[5:43] <Jack64> one sec
[5:44] <Jack64> I remember it was hard to find
[5:44] <Jack64> so I'll just link you to mine, that alright?
[5:44] <Jack64> wget http://107.191.40.133/adb-arm
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[5:45] <JakeSays> that works:)
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[5:45] <JakeSays> got it. thanks!
[5:45] <Jack64> you're welcome :)
[5:46] <JakeSays> ah its having glibc issues
[5:46] <Jack64> ah!
[5:46] <Jack64> that's why I went jessie :D
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[5:47] <JakeSays> lol well guess its time for an upgrade
[5:47] <Jack64> that's one LOOONG ass upgrade
[5:47] <Jack64> at least iirc
[5:47] <JakeSays> well, i'll just start with a clean sd card
[5:48] <Jack64> hmm don't think that solves it
[5:48] <Jack64> latest raspbian is wheezy afaik
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[5:48] <JakeSays> i thought they released jessie
[5:48] <Jack64> I grabbed the latest (at the time) and did some sed on /etc/sources.list
[5:48] <methuzla> it's jessie now
[5:49] <Jack64> ah
[5:49] <Jack64> still, if you don't wanna wipe the card..
[5:49] <Jack64> you can just comment what you have on /etc/apt/sources.list
[5:49] <Jack64> and add
[5:49] <Jack64> deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ jessie main contrib non-free rpi
[5:49] <JakeSays> really?
[5:49] <Jack64> then do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[5:49] <JakeSays> oh wow
[5:49] <JakeSays> hmm
[5:49] <Jack64> yea I was kinda o.O when it worked
[5:50] <JakeSays> i'll give it a try
[5:50] <Jack64> it should bring your glibc up to date and adb should then work
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[5:55] <JakeSays> well here goes nothing :)
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[5:56] <Jack64> heh
[5:56] <Jack64> gotma big ass list for upgrade?
[5:56] <Jack64> got a*
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[6:02] <JakeSays> it was only about 150mb worth
[6:02] <Jack64> how long will that take to install tho.. ?
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[6:08] <JakeSays> Jack64: cool - it upgraded sshd, restared it and i never lost my ssh connection
[6:08] <Jack64> yep =)
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[6:09] <Xark> JakeSays: That instance will still be running the old version until you exit.
[6:10] <JakeSays> Xark: ah ok. cool.
[6:10] <JakeSays> i come from windows.. the land of many restarts
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[6:11] <Xark> JakeSays: Yeah. One big diff for Linux is that you can delete an "in use" file. What happens is the file (and perhaps process running) will have "no name" but still exist on the disk. As soon as the file is closed, it will be deleted (if it has no name). This is why you don't need to restart Linux as often.
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[6:11] <Jack64> JakeSays: most of us came from windows.. now I keep a pet VM just for nostagia's sake =)
[6:12] <JakeSays> Xark: thats very cool
[6:12] <JakeSays> Jack64: well, windows still pays the bills, so i'm stuck on it for a few more years
[6:12] <Jack64> heh I know
[6:13] <Jack64> I'll be going back to it soon
[6:13] <Jack64> hopefully as part of the new job =)
[6:13] <JakeSays> new jobs are nice. i start one in a couple of weeks
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[6:17] <Jack64> I'm still waiting to hear back
[6:17] <Jack64> but it's looking good =)
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[6:22] <SirLagz> hmmm damn...ext4 error on my Pi
[6:22] <JakeSays> this one is totally different from anything i've ever done
[6:23] <Jack64> JakeSays: as is mine.. first job in infosec I'm hoping
[6:23] <SirLagz> we're all getting new jobs apparently!
[6:23] <Jack64> Oprah says: EVERYBODY GETS A NEW JOB!
[6:24] <SirLagz> I'm going for an interview on Friday heh
[6:24] <Jack64> good luck SirLagz
[6:24] <JakeSays> Jack64: interesting - mine is similar - i'll be reverse engineering viruses/malware
[6:24] <SirLagz> Jack64: thanks!
[6:24] <Jack64> hope you get it
[6:25] <SirLagz> hmm...damn, I think I need to plug a screen into my Pi and see what's going on
[6:25] <Jack64> JakeSays: hah nice =) if all goes well I'll be doing web app testing
[6:25] <SirLagz> Jack64: good luck with yours too!
[6:25] <Jack64> thanks SirLagz !
[6:26] <JakeSays> dang. its a good thing i have a fast sd card.
[6:26] <Jack64> done yet? :P
[6:26] <JakeSays> nope :(
[6:27] <Jack64> yea it'll take a while
[6:27] <Jack64> so you're getting a reversing gig at an infosec shop? or regular company?
[6:27] <JakeSays> now i just need to figure out how to communicate across adb
[6:28] <JakeSays> its a company that develops security and protection software
[6:28] <Jack64> sounds cool !
[6:28] <Jack64> btw, you can compile arm binaries on the pi and adb push them to the phone, where in theory they'll run just as well =)
[6:29] <SirLagz> hmm..think my Pi SD Card just died
[6:29] <Jack64> SirLagz: ouch :/ maybe fschk on a laptop?
[6:30] <SirLagz> Jack64: yep doing that now
[6:30] <Jack64> JakeSays: you can also script adb shell commands
[6:30] <Jack64> I have a small script that'll replace your APKs with backdoored ones... yes I'm that evil ^_^
[6:30] <JakeSays> Jack64: i do all my phone dev in c#
[6:31] <JakeSays> well, and my pi dev. lol
[6:31] <JakeSays> both from windows!
[6:31] * Jack64 loves da python
[6:31] <Jack64> haven't tried C# before
[6:31] <SirLagz> my next job that I'm going for is purely C#
[6:31] <Jack64> syntax reminds me of java tho
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[6:31] <SirLagz> I really need to learn it before I start lol
[6:31] <JakeSays> yeah its so far ahead of java..
[6:31] <Jack64> SirLagz: haha
[6:32] <Jack64> JakeSays: I know, but syntax-wise..
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[6:32] <JakeSays> well, syntax wise its similar to every other C'ish language, including java
[6:32] <SirLagz> Anyone had issues with Kingston SD Card on the Pi? mine seems royally buggered now
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[6:33] <SirLagz> as long as it boots when I plug it back in, I'll be happy with it though lol
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[6:34] <Jack64> JakeSays: right.. I should take it for a spin some time
[6:34] <Jack64> SirLagz: you could try spinrite
[6:36] <SirLagz> Jack64: meh. if it works it works...and I'll take an image of the SD card lol
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[6:38] <SirLagz> I think the SD card is royally screwed. dd can't even take an image lol
[6:38] <Jack64> ouch
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[6:41] <SirLagz> hmm seems to be doing it this time around...
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[6:42] * SirLagz wonders if temperature is affecting the SD card
[6:43] <JakeSays> huh. interesting - android 5.1 is available for the raspi2
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[6:43] <Jack64> JakeSays: I still prefer debian :P
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[6:44] <JakeSays> yeah but i'll have to give it a try just because
[6:44] <JakeSays> same with freebsd
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[6:44] <SirLagz> someone from newark told me they were sending me a Pi...a month ago. Still haven't received it lol. Wonder what happened to it
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[6:45] <Jack64> I was actually considering making a Pi2 cluster
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[6:46] <JakeSays> Jack64: upgrade took 44 minutes
[6:46] <Jack64> not bad..
[6:46] <Jack64> adb works now?
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[6:46] <Jack64> it may need a reboot tho
[6:47] <JakeSays> i get illegal instruction
[6:47] <Jack64> huh
[6:47] <Jack64> weird
[6:47] <Jack64> reboot maybe
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[6:50] <Jack64> JakeSays: worked?
[6:50] <JakeSays> nope. still illegal instruction
[6:50] <Jack64> can you pastebin the error exactly?
[6:52] <JakeSays> the error is exactly "Illegal instruction
[6:52] <JakeSays> "
[6:53] <Jack64> hmm
[6:53] <Jack64> that's a pi2 right?
[6:53] <JakeSays> no
[6:54] <JakeSays> Model B
[6:54] <SirLagz> JakeSays: Pi 1?
[6:54] <JakeSays> yes
[6:54] <SirLagz> JakeSays: what are you trying to do?
[6:54] <Jack64> ah
[6:54] <JakeSays> run adb
[6:54] <Jack64> this may be armhf not armel
[6:54] <JakeSays> i'm running armhf
[6:54] <SirLagz> JakeSays: where are you getting adb from?
[6:54] <JakeSays> SirLagz: Jack64
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[6:55] <Jack64> JakeSays: https://github.com/bonnyfone/adb-arm
[6:55] <SirLagz> Jack64: is the adb that you've given compiled for ARMv7 or ARMv6?
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[6:55] <Jack64> I think it's ARMv7 hence my question which Pi he had
[6:56] <SirLagz> JakeSays: what's the output of 'file adb-arm-binary' ?
[6:56] <Jack64> adb-arm: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.3, for GNU/Linux 2.6.27, BuildID[sha1]=c859caab469596e55d8f00a6b2c5a10b6f082598, stripped
[6:57] <JakeSays> adb-arm: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV)
[6:57] <JakeSays> yeah
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[6:57] <Jack64> JakeSays: you can always try to compile your own
[6:57] <JakeSays> hmm. i found a source tarball
[6:58] <Jack64> JakeSays: https://github.com/bonnyfone/adb-arm
[6:58] <Jack64> it has a adb-arm-binary
[6:58] <JakeSays> yeah i'll try that one first
[6:59] <JakeSays> ah that one works :)
[7:00] <Jack64> nice =)
[7:01] <JakeSays> Jack64: what parameters do you use to run it?
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[7:02] <Jack64> adb shell 'pm list packages -f'
[7:02] <Jack64> try this
[7:02] <Jack64> should list your installed apps
[7:03] <JakeSays> i have to connect the two first
[7:03] <Jack64> don't forget to turn on USB debugging on the phone first
[7:03] <Jack64> it'll prompt for a PC connection on the phone when you plug it in
[7:03] <JakeSays> yeah thats on
[7:04] <JakeSays> hope it works through my usb hub
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[7:06] <SirLagz> bbl. gotta go pick up the kids
[7:06] <Jack64> ttyl SirLagz
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[7:24] <JakeSays> Jack64: when you return - its working great :) thanks for your excellent ideas and help
[7:25] <Jack64> JakeSays: I'm glad :) you're welcome
[7:25] <JakeSays> now all i need to do is figure out how to power the phone while connected to the pi. i'd rather not have a hub in the picture.
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[7:26] <Jack64> ah.. no charging huh?
[7:26] <JakeSays> no, and the phone battery is dead
[7:26] <JakeSays> i can get about 3 minutes of better life. lol
[7:26] <Jack64> oh.. that sucks :/
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[7:27] <JakeSays> but i should be able to create a Y cable with power running down one fork and signals running down the other
[7:27] <Jack64> yep you could do that
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[7:28] <JakeSays> then i could power both off of one adapter
[7:29] <JakeSays> i'm running a custom CM 10 build on the phone, which was fun to do
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[7:32] <linuxmint> Any help with Bluetooth on Pi 2?
[7:32] <Jack64> yea I've done that for an old LG I had laying around.. but it was too slow to be usable :/
[7:32] <linuxmint> I think I installed bluetoothctl.
[7:33] <linuxmint> I can't register or make a password with command $ bluetoothctl -a <MAC address>.
[7:33] <linuxmint> I checked $ nano /usr/bin/bluetoothctl, but only gibberish shows.
[7:34] <linuxmint> Error from $ bluetoothctl -a <MAC address> is: Failed to register agent: org.bluez.Error.InvalidArguments
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[7:53] <linuxmint> I think the issue might be the initial Bluetooth package to install. I install $ sudo apt-get install bluez-hcidump blueman. Other forums says install $ sudo apt-get install bluez python-gobject.
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[8:16] <linuxmint> Ok, blueman, bluetooth and bluez are all installed.
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[9:38] <tjcarter> My USB-serial dingus is not where my Pi is right now, does anyone who happens to have one connected just now, and would you mind poking in /dev/serial/ for me? :)
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[9:40] <tjcarter> Even better if you have two identical ones, but that's not 100% necessary just now. Trying to do the equivalent of identifying filesystems by UUID, but with serial ports. :P Supposedly that's already done by udev. If and how is what I'm trying to sort out.
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[11:34] <MY123_SurfaceRT> Erm, did Avago buy Broadcom?
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[11:37] <Armand> MY123_SurfaceRT: Seems so
[11:38] <Armand> "In May 28, 2015 chip maker Avago Technologies Ltd. agreed to buy Broadcom Corp. for $37 billion in cash and stock."
[11:42] <MY123_SurfaceRT> Armand: buying a company bigger than themselves
[11:42] <Armand> Cool
[11:42] <Armand> Heck, my employer has acquired several webhosting companies and resellers, but nothing of that measure. :P
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[11:46] <MY123_SurfaceRT> Armand: like Dell buying EMC, ultimate craziness
[11:47] <MY123_SurfaceRT> (Apple can buy Google though)
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[12:02] <Armand> MY123_SurfaceRT: I think it's fair to say that some circumstances are highly unlikely. :P
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[12:05] <sigdk> what's the default window manager of rpi ?
[12:07] <H__> no clue, i use mine headless
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[12:08] <shiftplusone> sigdk: openbox
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[12:50] <g105b_> I have my RasPi plugged into a HDMI monitor, it is showing `pi login:`, there is no keyboard or mouse attached, but I am connected as root via SSH. Can I use omxplayer to play a video on the screen without having to log in?
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[12:54] <MY123_SurfaceRT> http://www.sansbullshitsans.com/
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[12:56] <izzle121> g105b_, you'll want to first setup your pi to boot into graphical mode (use raspi-config). then you can ssh from your remote machine and issue "DISPLAY=:0 omxplayer" to get it started. You could also setup omxplayer to start when the graphical interface starts
[12:56] <g105b_> izzle121: graphical mode? You mean an X desktop?
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[12:56] <shiftplusone> omxplayer is not an X11 application, it should spit things out directly to the screen anyway.
[12:57] <g105b_> that's what I'm thinking
[12:57] <g105b_> but I think my problem is that the tty1 is not logged in, so won't display the video.
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[12:57] <shiftplusone> g105b_: what happens when you try?
[12:57] <shiftplusone> g105b_: it shouldn't care about any of that
[12:58] <shiftplusone> it talks directly to the GPU
[12:58] <g105b_> shiftplusone: it my remote terminal it looks like the video is playing, but on the monitor there is just the "pi login:" command flashing, no video
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[12:59] <shiftplusone> hmm, not what I would've expected
[12:59] <shiftplusone> no idea then
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[13:00] <g105b_> does the user that is playing the omxplayer video have to be logged in on the tty that is showing via hdmi?
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[13:08] <shiftplusone> I would be very surprised if that was the case
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[13:21] <FanBoy> Hi, does anyone know what the feature 'read next subtitle stream' in omxplayer does? As far as I can tell, srt files can only contain 1 track
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[13:33] <g105b_> FanBoy: doesn't it load the next file on disk?
[13:33] <g105b_> Is there anything like omxplayer that can display a jpeg (or motion jpeg) to the screen, so it updates if the image updates on disk?
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[13:34] <FanBoy> doesnt seem to, just figured it out though, if you have an mkv file you can soft burn subtitle tracks into them
[13:34] <FanBoy> and then cycle through those
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[13:35] <FanBoy> mp4 doesnt support this
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[14:54] <SirLagz> wooo my Pi booted up with a buggered SD card
[14:56] <SirLagz> buuut I can't login to it lol
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[14:57] <shiftplusone> SirLagz: congratulations
[14:58] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: I can't log in to it though lol
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[14:58] <SirLagz> wait I just said that
[14:58] <shiftplusone> mere details
[14:58] <SirLagz> lol
[14:59] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: I guess as long as I can recover my SNMP configuration and stuff, it's not an issue
[14:59] <SirLagz> I just need another SD card
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[15:00] <shiftplusone> might be worthwhile using a HDD
[15:01] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: yeah probably...I just need to get one now lol
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[15:02] <SirLagz> as long as my temp sensors are pollable again
[15:03] <knob> Good morning!
[15:03] <shiftplusone> What was it set up to do?
[15:03] <shiftplusone> 'morning
[15:03] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: just a temp monitoring box
[15:04] <shiftplusone> ah
[15:04] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: though I was also going to use it to show my home dashboard as well
[15:04] <shiftplusone> home dashboard?
[15:05] <shiftplusone> Do you have one of them automated space houses from the future?
[15:05] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: just a few screens that show ADSL stats, local news and weather, and local fuel prices
[15:05] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1RhPrxJp7gyZVhCSU44SlN2OEE <-- ADSL stats
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[15:05] <shiftplusone> Ah
[15:05] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1RhPrxJp7gyOFVKSW5BY0lidnM <-- local fuel prices
[15:05] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1RhPrxJp7gySDdWLUNaY1psOFU <-- local news and weather
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[15:06] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: so those screens just rotate...and I was going to use the Pi to show it
[15:06] <shiftplusone> I was going to mock you and say something along the lines of "Yup, always have to have them ADSL stats handy" but that actually seems useful =P
[15:07] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: haha...especially in Oztraya where the copper lines are all green :P
[15:07] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: I wish I had set it up earlier to prove to my ISP that my lines were going down the drain earlier lol
[15:07] <shiftplusone> Are there any decent ISPs left?
[15:07] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: nope. iiNet was the last decent one IMO, and they were bought out by TPG
[15:07] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: I don't know what TPG is going to do to iiNet...
[15:08] <shiftplusone> shame that the two decent ones were gobbled up =(
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[15:08] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: yeah :(
[15:09] <shiftplusone> Now you have the choice of TPG, Telstra or Optus. You get to choose how you get screwed over, at least.
[15:09] <SirLagz> haha yeah
[15:09] <SirLagz> at least iiNet are still operating independently for now
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[15:10] <shiftplusone> Will see what happens in the long term. I am sure TPG aren't stupid enough to mess with it too much.
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[15:11] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: yeah, definitely with the amount of goodwill iiNet/Internode built with their customers
[15:12] <shiftplusone> I do want to slap the shareholders and the board though >.>
[15:12] <SirLagz> haha yeah, same
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[15:49] <clever> shiftplusone: got qemu compiled, but its not working
[15:49] <clever> shiftplusone: -machine virt and all others just cause 100% cpu usage and 0% output
[15:49] <shiftplusone> I ddon't know about that machine target.
[15:50] <shiftplusone> I used versatile, and a custom kernel.
[15:50] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: what would you like todo?
[15:51] <shiftplusone> Torlus did some work to add an actual pi target, which supports more than 256MB RAM and can boot the official kernel.
[15:51] <MY123_SurfaceRT> Qemu works well here on my Pi2 with hardware VT
[15:51] <shiftplusone> so if you google qemu torlus, you should find that.
[15:51] <MY123_SurfaceRT> shiftplusone: RISC OS at least runs on that
[15:51] <MY123_SurfaceRT> I tried Torlus's qemu a few years ago
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[15:52] <clever> shiftplusone: testing...
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[15:52] <clever> versatileab gave some output!
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[15:52] <clever> ah wait, thats qemu trying to setup audio and failing
[15:53] <clever> same for versatilepb
[15:53] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: disable SDL and audio
[15:53] <clever> MY123_SurfaceRT: already did -nographic
[15:53] <shiftplusone> yeah, versatilepb was the one I was using
[15:53] <clever> its eating as many cpu cycles as the pi can give it
[15:54] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: USE HARDWARE VT WHEN SIMULATING ARM on Pi
[15:54] <MY123_SurfaceRT> can't make it bold enough
[15:54] <clever> MY123_SurfaceRT: pi1
[15:55] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: emulating Linux?
[15:55] <clever> MY123_SurfaceRT: yep
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[15:55] <clever> no output after 30+ seconds, 100% cpu usage
[15:55] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: some early build of Xen for ARM used TrustZone
[15:55] <MY123_SurfaceRT> instead of VT-extensions, and it ran on ARMv5
[15:55] <clever> it has to be qemu
[15:56] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: why do you need the Pi1?
[15:56] <clever> i could try it on a pi2, let me see
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[15:58] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: use qemu-2.1 and enable ARM VT in the kernel
[15:58] <MY123_SurfaceRT> (and --enable-kvm in ./configure for qemu)
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[15:58] <clever> currently using /nix/store/z3f17mgzwm8mn1vnyal8zk4b1cwivwcg-qemu-x86-only-2.4.0.1/bin/qemu-system-arm
[15:58] <clever> ignore the x86-only, i havent changed the package name yet
[15:59] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: http://blog.flexvdi.com/2015/03/17/enabling-kvm-virtualization-on-the-raspberry-pi-2/
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[15:59] <MY123_SurfaceRT> there is some tricks used, but it will work way faster than Qemu's JIT
[16:00] <clever> i wont always have access to the pi2 though
[16:00] <clever> should i expect some console output within atleast 30 seconds?
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[16:01] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: you should expect less than 5sec kernel launch times, as it's native speed
[16:01] <clever> i must be missing a kernel option then
[16:01] <clever> shiftplusone: which one did you have to set?
[16:02] <clever> MY123_SurfaceRT: and i'm guessing it can still work with -kernel and -append?
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[16:02] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: on a Pi2 with VT enabled, yes
[16:02] <clever> what about a pi1 with softmmu and junk slowing it down?
[16:03] <shiftplusone> clever: https://web.archive.org/web/20150326230511/http://xecdesign.com/qemu-emulating-raspberry-pi-the-easy-way/
[16:03] <clever> any kind of testing on the pi2 will require copying 2gig of data over a fairly slow link
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[16:03] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: http://blog.flexvdi.com/2015/03/17/enabling-kvm-virtualization-on-the-raspberry-pi-2/
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[16:04] <MY123_SurfaceRT> shiftplusone: he is trying to emulate Versatile on a Pi, so your article is irrelevant
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[16:04] <clever> 2015-10-28 11:50:18 <@shiftplusone> I used versatile, and a custom kernel.
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[16:05] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: about setting up VT on a Pi2 to run a versatilepb target, FlexVDI covers it fairly well
[16:05] <clever> MY123_SurfaceRT: except id need to copy 2gig of files over the web into the pi2
[16:05] <shiftplusone> clever: you know it's going to be painfully slow without virtualisation, yeah? Like.... too slow to be useful.
[16:06] <shiftplusone> I've never tried it on a pi, but.... I wouldn't want to.
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[16:06] <clever> shiftplusone: its needed by a testing framework for an OS i'm porting
[16:06] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: the Pi2 is your only choice, or another Cortex-A7 or A15 board with Linux 3.10 or more
[16:07] <MY123_SurfaceRT> (that's why Cubieboards are not supported, Linux 3.4 only)
[16:07] <MY123_SurfaceRT> (64-bit SoCs are also possible, but they're expensive
[16:07] <MY123_SurfaceRT> )
[16:08] <clever> that leaves only 2 other choices
[16:08] <clever> rewrite the test framework to run qemu on an x86 (more cycles, but a worse ratio), or rewrite every testcase to use UML
[16:08] <clever> only the entrypoint and some network options need to change i think
[16:10] <clever> dang, no kernel options in the post shiftplusone linked
[16:10] <clever> just a pre-built kernel
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[16:11] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: Qemu is painfully slow on a Pi1
[16:11] <clever> i think i'll just start a UML port of things
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[16:13] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: can't you replace with a Pi2?
[16:13] <MY123_SurfaceRT> easier and faster
[16:14] <clever> been lazy with ordering things online, but i should probably throw a few on my next order
[16:15] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: the best thing is running Windows 10 Mobile on Qemu on Pi2
[16:15] <clever> lol, does that even work?
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[16:16] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: crashes in dxgkrnl.sys, in the GPU part
[16:16] <MY123_SurfaceRT> (normal because unimplemented in Qemu)
[16:16] <clever> ah
[16:18] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: I'm thinking about enabling SW rendering, but I have other projects
[16:19] <clever> i'm thinking UML would just be better then qemu, since it compiles into an elf binary with no emulation in the middle
[16:19] <clever> skip all of the troublesome parts
[16:20] <clever> MY123_SurfaceRT: you know what UML is?
[16:21] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: User-Mode Linux
[16:21] <clever> yep
[16:22] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: I used it, but I think that it doesn't guarantee security for VPS as an example
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[16:23] <clever> not planning on using it for VPS stuff
[16:23] <clever> using it for a build server/testcase runner
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[16:23] <clever> anybody that can run code inside the guest,can run code outside of the guest (as non-root)
[16:23] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: it does have quite a lot of overhead and is slower if you do a lot of fork()
[16:23] <clever> more or less overhead then qemu?
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[16:26] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: depends
[16:26] <MY123_SurfaceRT> (if you do lots of ctx switches Qemu is better, if not, then prefer UML)
[16:26] <clever> ah
[16:26] <clever> let me see if there are any numbers available
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[16:27] <clever> http://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixos/release-15.09/nixos.tests.gnome3.x86_64-linux#tabs-charts
[16:28] <clever> a basic job, it boots, auto-logs in with gdm, and takes a screenshot of gnome-terminal
[16:28] <clever> then shuts down
[16:28] <clever> sub-200 second runtime for the last ~2 months
[16:28] <clever> MY123_SurfaceRT: at this size, i dont think a 30% speed difference would mean much
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[16:35] <clever> oh, about the only thing i'm going to loose via UML testing, is that it cant test the actual kernel build
[16:36] <MY123_SurfaceRT> clever: yeah, that can matter A LOT
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[16:37] <clever> so i cant eliminate qemu testing entirely on x86, but i can still use it as a faster test platform, and maybe do some of the x86 tests that dont care about the kernel
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[17:32] <myself> Gaaah. I'm discovering, reading http://elinux.org/RPi_SPI that the chip actually has *three* SPI controllers, but the rpi only brings out the pins for one. :(
[17:33] <NedScott> can't you tap into a second via the DPI connector?
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[17:33] <NedScott> or something
[17:33] <myself> Really, I'm fine with one, but I need at least 6 chip-selects.
[17:33] <ShorTie> 3 ?? it has 2
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[17:34] <ShorTie> 1 bus and 2 chip selects
[17:34] <myself> I heard rumors that someone was working on extending the driver to allow any GPIO to be used as a chip select, but can't find if that went anywhere.
[17:34] <myself> ShorTie: First paragraph of the page I linked. :)
[17:34] <ShorTie> 3 wire serial protocol. >>
[17:35] <ShorTie> ??
[17:35] <NedScott> DPI/DSI
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[17:36] <myself> Here, http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/31932/add-more-than-2-spi-slaves search in-page for the word "arbitrary" but I can't find any update of whether/when/where this happened/is happening
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[17:40] <myself> It looks like the 40-pin models bring out a second SPI controller with one more chip select, but most of the support pages I'm finding haven't been updated with that info, and I'm not sure where to find anything more reliable.
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[18:05] <gordonDrogon> I've connected up 3 SPI devices to a Pi before (and, er, now)
[18:07] <gordonDrogon> I did it "manually" by using 3 other GPIO pins as CE pins and setting them appropriately before using the SPI bus. It's a bit of a fiddle though.
[18:07] <myself> are you using the kernel driver?
[18:07] <myself> Ahh, yeah. :/
[18:07] <gordonDrogon> yes, I use the kernel driver.
[18:07] <myself> I really love the spidev0.0 and 0.1 addressing
[18:07] <gordonDrogon> I just ignore the existing CE lines and set my own.
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[18:07] <gordonDrogon> another way is to use a 3 to 8 decoder and use one CE line as the enable.
[18:07] <myself> would love if I could just make those 0.23 or whatever using aribtrary GPIO's
[18:08] <myself> I've got such decoders, just no support in the kernel for seeing that as a way to talk to more devices
[18:08] <gordonDrogon> it might be possible in the kernel driver - from what I understand the existing CE lines are driven by the hardware when you start an SPI transaction though.
[18:09] <gordonDrogon> you need to write a little shim.
[18:09] <myself> Did you see the stackexchange where it was mention that someone might be reworking the driver? I'd like to find that person and paypal them a whole bunch of beers or whatever...
[18:09] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I could hack something into wiringPi to do it...
[18:09] <gordonDrogon> yes, glanced at that.
[18:10] <gordonDrogon> I've currently got 3 SPI thermocouples going into a Pi.
[18:11] <myself> I'm looking at two CAN controllers, an ADC, two MCP23S17 GPIO expanders, and possibly a PWM driver. :/
[18:11] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/thermo1.c
[18:11] <myself> Oh neat.
[18:12] <myself> That's... a lot simpler looking than I expected.
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[18:13] <gordonDrogon> I just wrote a wrapper round the normal wiringPi call to the max31855 driver.
[18:14] <gordonDrogon> which is effectively a 1-channel ADC
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[18:15] <gordonDrogon> I'll have a ctrl-c catcher when I integrate this into the oven controller to make sure the CE lines are left in a seneible state, but have 2 active would only corrupt the very first reading on a new run.
[18:15] <myself> I'm just doing the hardware, but trying to make sure it's *possible* for the software guys to interface with it. :/
[18:15] <myself> So, picking pins..
[18:15] <gordonDrogon> a 3-8 gated via one of the existing CE lines would probably be my way forward for many devices.
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[18:16] <gordonDrogon> I'm sure this is all possible in python too if that's what they're using.
[18:16] <myself> That seems sensible. I'll leave plenty of space on the board for slicing-and-dicing the CE lines later. ;)
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[18:19] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/IMG_20150927_171939.jpg
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[18:19] <myself> adorable :)
[18:20] <myself> You're keeping your cold-junctions somewhere they're not subject to much heat flux?
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> it seems to work.
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> it's outside the oven...
[18:21] <myself> Yeah, the nature of thermocouples is that they sum all the temperature differences experienced by the whole loop, then manually subtract out the temperature of the cold-junction which in this case is assumed by the chip to be at the same temperature as the chip.
[18:22] <myself> It means you'd see an error of (the temperature difference between the chip and the terminal strip) if part of that rig were subject to local heating
[18:22] <myself> which in terms of an oven is probably negligible anyway, so, awesome
[18:22] <gordonDrogon> it has internal cold junction compensation.
[18:23] <myself> (I mention it because I've seen cases where the chip was right next to a motor driver, and got quite hot, while the terminal strip an inch away was many degrees different, and the reading varied considerably as the printer worked)
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[18:26] <gordonDrogon> yes, this is well away from the insides ... not sure the Pi would like it in there either!
[18:26] <gordonDrogon> the separate blue terminals go to SSRs.
[18:26] <myself> cool cool :)
[18:27] <gordonDrogon> well, hot, hot :)
[18:27] <IT_Sean> Is this your "make an oven that's smarter than you" project?
[18:27] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/beaky2.png
[18:27] <gordonDrogon> IT_Sean, no...... I still need to mix the dough!
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[18:27] <IT_Sean> heh
[18:27] <gordonDrogon> although I do have machines for that..
[18:28] <myself> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhZba-P7R18
[18:28] <Rubafix> Hello I just got my raspberry, plugged in added storage, now what? What linux you guys are using?
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[18:28] <gordonDrogon> Rubafix, Raspbian.
[18:28] <IT_Sean> is this your first Pi? If so, start with raspbian. It's probably got the best community support.
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> myself, The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> looks like a music video which I'd not want to watch anyway.
[18:29] <myself> Aww. It was Buster Poindexter, "Hot Hot Hot" from 1987 :)
[18:31] <Rubafix> IT_Sean: Yeah first one, getting raspbian now, does noobs is a necessary step? It is stated as an easy installer for noobs. can't I use lili to make a bootable drive?
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[18:33] <IT_Sean> you don't need noobs. Just download the raspbian image and dd it to the SD card
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[18:36] <Rubafix> Does raspbian has a GUI?
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[18:37] <toomin> Yes
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[18:40] <Rubafix> Hey I guess a lot of you are doing a lot of test, trying and error and stuff, are you using any OS backup system?
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[18:42] <JK-47> Rubafix: rsync
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[18:43] <toomin> Or dd your sd card before trying something drastic.
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[18:46] <Rubafix> I was thinking more about some automated system save along with possible reload over network
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[18:47] <Rubafix> Like if I crash it while not at home, I plan to use it as a server, and while its not essential that would be cool =)
[18:47] <nid0> if you want the entire os in a reloadable state its not straightforward to do while its running
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[18:48] <myself> Two of 'em able to reflash each other, Robin Hood and Friar Tuck style? :)
[18:48] <myself> https://www.i3detroit.org/reset-on-lan-an-ethernet-aware-remote-reboot-device-from-junkbox-parts/
[18:48] <nid0> youll either want to setup lvm on your SD card and install your OS to that and ensure you leave enough space to be able to take and backup LVM snapshots, then you can restore from those snapshots
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[18:49] <nid0> or if you have a nas kicking around, boot from an iscsi volume - you can then take snapshots of that volume on the nas, and can re-image the snapshots back to the live disk anytime
[18:49] <JK-47> or, just have a good old dd. and rsync your changes nightly. how do you restore? drop dd on new sd, and rsync back over it to get to latest point
[18:49] <JK-47> difference in bare metal restore, and file based recovery
[18:50] <Rubafix> JK-47: yeah but then I would have to be at home to restore the files
[18:50] <myself> oh man, boot from iscsi where another host can alter the volumes is perfect
[18:50] <JK-47> depends. you could like, vpn, you know
[18:50] <JK-47> if it isnt a critical failure of the sd, you dont need to flash the sd again
[18:50] <JK-47> you just pull from rsync repo
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[18:51] <Rubafix> Yeah but like if the raspberry is the server and it is crashed I don't see how I could vpn anything
[18:51] <myself> For an awful lot of stuff, simply having serial console access is enough
[18:51] <myself> You're creating an impossible scenario and then whining that it's impossible. Stop that.
[18:52] <JK-47> have a redundant pi ;)
[18:52] <JK-47> but what if you lose that...
[18:52] <Rubafix> Dang, i will set up and entire pi datacenter =)
[18:52] <nid0> if you want to be able to recover your pi remotely from dead, you need to have its os stored elsewhere such as on a nas. and even that'll only work as long as you don't break anything in /boot
[18:52] <nid0> you can't just magically re-image the sd card in a dead pi while you're not where the pi is
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[18:53] <JK-47> pxeboot your pi w/ uboot.
[18:53] <JK-47> again, a major sd failure will take it out
[18:53] <Rubafix> On windows I have something called deepfreeze, you boot in freeze mod, do the testing, and then on reboot you system will be back on previous state. Only issue is that if you change worked fine you'll have to redo it outside freeze mod
[18:54] <Encrypt> That moment when you loose connection to your Pi because a sudo reboot fails... and then you realize you are far too dependent of what you've done with your Pi...
[18:54] <Encrypt> This happened to me yesterday
[18:54] <Encrypt> Hopefully, my mother was able to unplug / replug it
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[18:55] <myself> Heh. That's why I made my remote-reboot thing. I never change my router remotely, so it's always up (and has its own watchdog), so I can ssh into the router and send the reboot packet to the device, which kicks the server over and hopefully it stands itself back up
[18:56] <Rubafix> That seems like a nice setup
[18:56] <Rubafix> The pi has a wake on lan feature?
[18:56] <Encrypt> Nopz
[18:56] <Rubafix> Oh wait, its never off
[18:56] <Encrypt> Rubafix, Yeah, that's how is mine
[18:56] <myself> But it has a reset signal.
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[18:57] <myself> Mine's driving a PC motherboard reset signal, but the same idea applies.
[18:57] <myself> (Could also make it drive the ATX PSU-EN line)
[18:57] <Encrypt> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19626172/RPi_1.jpg / https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19626172/RPi_2.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19626172/RPi_1.jpg
[18:57] <Encrypt> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19626172/RPi_3.jpg *
[18:57] <Rubafix> Nice TV
[18:58] <Encrypt> Rubafix, s/TV/Aquarium
[18:58] <Encrypt> :P
[18:58] <sigdk> here 's the FS of a Raspbian image I downloaded... how can it be 88% full ? The img is 4gb. Do you know what packages take so much space ?
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[18:59] <Rubafix> teh raspbian I got is 1.2 GB
[18:59] <Encrypt> My mobile phone plan is even attached to it
[18:59] <Rubafix> Encrypt: you have two sims?
[18:59] <Encrypt> Rubafix, No, only one
[18:59] <Rubafix> wait and what about your phone
[18:59] <Encrypt> But I have asterisk :D
[19:00] <sigdk> Rubafix, 1.2 is the zip file you download...
[19:00] <Encrypt> And with a softphone, I am able to use it remotely
[19:00] <Rubafix> Like you sacrifice internet everywhere for you pi that's probably sitting next to your internet box? :O
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[19:01] <Encrypt> Since I am in Plymouth (UK) and my RPi is in France, I can use my cell phone plan without having to pay roaming fees, remotely
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[19:01] <Rubafix> that's cool
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[19:01] <Rubafix> is your softphone wireless?
[19:01] <Encrypt> Rubafix, I was inspired by this: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-gsm-gateway/
[19:02] <Encrypt> Rubafix, Whenever I have internet access (which means almost everywhere here), I am able to connect to my Pi
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[19:03] <Rubafix> sigdk: yes sir, my 8GB micro sd is now crying
[19:04] <Encrypt> sigdk, I guess you haven't expanded your filesystem after cloning it?
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[19:04] <sigdk> Encrypt, no. I need to fit it a 4gb card. I can't see why the image has so many packages
[19:04] <Encrypt> Ah
[19:04] <hstl> Hi all! Standart wire for pi camera is short. I need longer wire. Does it exist in the universe? Thank you.
[19:04] <Encrypt> I hadn't understood it that way
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[19:05] <Rubafix> dang its so huge, is there a lite raspbian version?
[19:05] <nid0> there are like 4596846026902698368945 custom images for raspbian with much less stuff installed that're smaller
[19:05] <nid0> minibian being one of them
[19:06] <nid0> but they dont have a jessie release yet
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[19:07] <shiftplusone> https://repo.xecdesign.com/tmp/2015-09-24-raspbian-jessie-noX.zip
[19:07] <shiftplusone> sorry, that should be https://repo.xecdesign.com/tmp/2015-10-23-raspbian-jessie-noX.zip
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[19:08] <Rubafix> nid0: Yeah I was looking at it. Well I'll go with raspbian as it's my first time with the thing but I'll check back on minibian, seems to be just what I need
[19:09] <Rubafix> 4GB still.. god what did they put on it :O
[19:10] <hstl> Please, recommend me the most popular raspberry pi forum. I will need big help in my project. Thank you!
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[19:12] <toomin> uhhh
[19:12] <toomin> Nice setup, Encrypt.
[19:13] <toomin> :D
[19:14] <Encrypt> toomin, Thanks :)
[19:16] <Karlton> bloated libraries like boost will take 800M+ !
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[19:22] <Karlton> $ du -hs /usr/include/boost 119M /usr/include/boost
[19:22] <Karlton> just for the headers
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[19:28] <Rubafix> if I drop the img of raspbian of the micro sd it will just work or do I have to prepare it with lili and such?
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[19:28] <Rubafix> on*
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[20:30] <myself> Hah. just realized the mounting holes on the B+ are electrically isolated.
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[21:06] <Rubafix> Re
[21:07] <Rubafix> Guys what does a red and a green led mean on the raspberry?
[21:07] <brethil> sd card activity+
[21:07] <Rubafix> There's nothing about that on the quickstart guide
[21:07] <Rubafix> My screen doesn't wake up
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[21:12] <Rubafix> I have no signal over HDMI, I got my empty micro sd in, a usb stick with raspbian plugged in along a keyboard and mouse, and of course the usb power micro usb
[21:12] <Rubafix> What could be wrong with my setup
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[21:13] <brethil> boot partion has to be on the micro sd
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[21:14] <Rubafix> I can't do that, I have no way to send data to the micro sd card
[21:15] <Rubafix> I'm pretty sure I read somewhere I could install linux by usb on the rasp
[21:15] <Rubafix> Maybe I dreamt it
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[21:16] <Karlton> linux has to be loaded from the sd card
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[21:17] <Karlton> once it's loaded into memory you can then use other devices
[21:17] <Karlton> and even take the sd card out
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[21:20] <Rubafix> I have an old android 4 phone, but the way it present the usb storage is particular and I'm pretty sure I can do whatever I want with it. Do you see a way out?
[21:20] <Rubafix> Like i meant plugin the micro sd in the old phone and then plug it to a computer
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[21:25] <brethil> That might work
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[21:29] <Rubafix> brethil: Well the device is displayed as a mediaplayer device in windows, so I can't format with the usual right click, what would I need to put on the sdcard to make it bootable. Because the tools I know like LiLi or unebuting won't work because of the usb mode
[21:29] <brethil> I'm sorry I have no idea on how to do that on windows
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[21:33] <Rubafix> How would you do it in linux? I have a Mint 17.2 Vm installed
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[21:49] <tisho> hi
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[21:50] <DJ-Tisho> Wc
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[22:45] <ali1234> clever: i managed to sniff this i2c with piscope and sigrok http://paste.ubuntu.com/12993837/
[22:46] <ali1234> confirming that the tuner is fully controlled on bit-banged i2c
[22:46] <ali1234> so i can just skip reprogramming the stupid microcontroller and just halt it, then patch directly into the i2c
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[23:15] <d4rkforce> Hello! I am trying to stream video from the raspberry pi cam via gstreamer1.0. Everything is working fine if I use raspivid and pipe the output to gstreamer. However if I try to use v4l2, the stream never starts. The client just sits there with the message "Pipeline is PREROLLING"
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[23:20] <d4rkforce> there seems to be no difference if I try to use udpsink or tcpserversink. In both cases the stream does not start. I'm sure I am doing something wrong, but I am running out of ideas...
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[23:39] <ali1234> d4rkforce: there is a bug in the v4l2 stuff which makes it not work at all
[23:39] <ali1234> you should use rpicamsrc
[23:40] <d4rkforce> ali1234: ok, I will give it a try
[23:40] <d4rkforce> however, using gst_v4l2src_is_broken=1 and filesink I am able to write video to a file
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[23:40] <ali1234> yes
[23:40] <d4rkforce> so it seems the streaming is the problem
[23:40] <ali1234> that hack doesn't quite fix it
[23:41] <ali1234> the problem isn't actually gstreamer, it's the module
[23:41] <ali1234> in any case, the rpicamsrc is miles better for streaming
[23:41] <d4rkforce> ok, I see. Using rpicamsrc I still should be able to sync audio and video in the stream, right?
[23:42] <ali1234> no idea
[23:42] <ali1234> i mean raspberry pi doesn't have audio in by default
[23:42] <d4rkforce> yes, I am grabbing the audio via usb
[23:42] <d4rkforce> I will give it a shot :-)
[23:42] <ali1234> i'd be surprised if you could get audio to sync at all using any method
[23:43] <ali1234> it's known for being incredibly difficult
[23:44] <ali1234> also, consider using rtsp
[23:44] <d4rkforce> I was under the impression, that gstreamer should be able to do it (at least to an extend. You still have some latency from the cam, the encoding pipeline, usb audio buffer etc
[23:44] <ali1234> yes gstreamer can timestamp everything
[23:44] <ali1234> and then you can use those timestamps on receiver to sync things back up
[23:44] <ali1234> assuming your transport supports them
[23:46] <d4rkforce> doing a quick test using rtsp via vlc produced quite high latencty
[23:46] <ali1234> vlc is rubbish
[23:46] <d4rkforce> anyway, compiling rpicamsrc
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[23:50] <d4rkforce> in the end I want to stream video and audio from one pi to another pi in the network. So gstreamer might be the answer if I can get it to sync properly. It does not have to be perfect, but the drift between audio and video should at least be constant over long periods. I could live with it as long as audio and video don't drift apart by more then a couple houndred ms
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[23:51] <d4rkforce> hopefully I can get this to work, otherwise I guess I would have to buy a camera that can stream to the network by itself
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