#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-10-29

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[0:07] <d4rkforce> ali1234: thank you. Using rpicamsrc the video stream works!
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[0:11] <ali1234> crazy. chip manufacturer TENOR doesn't seem to even exist, it's just a fake brnad name for a chip that is widely cloned
[0:11] <ali1234> but i can't figure out who actually made it first
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[0:54] <d4rkforce> man, I had almost forgotten the pain that gstreamer is..
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[0:56] <Xenthys> Hey, there's something on your face! – *SPAF* – It was PAIN!
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[1:43] <d4rkforce> it works :-)
[1:43] <d4rkforce> ali1234: thank you again!
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[1:46] <Infester> I tried running xbmc on my raspberry pi but it was so slow it really wasn't functional, has anyone had success with raspberry pi 2?
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[1:48] <fluffet> osmc on rpi2 works great
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[1:49] <fluffet> we use one in our student apartment, playing networked video with very high bitrate is no problem
[1:49] <Infester> did you ever run it on rpi1?
[1:49] <fluffet> nope, we had a spare rpi2 so we just used that
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[1:51] <Infester> thanks. trying to find a pet project for my rpi, it didn't work well for that one :( so onto the next one
[1:51] <Infester> Any fun projects for a beginner?
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[2:03] <myself> Infester: are you looking for mostly software or mostly hardware project?
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[2:06] <Infester> I'd like to take a try at a hardware project
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[2:14] <myself> Infester: Try connecting some sensors to make a temperature/humidity/CO2/whatever monitor, maybe liquid level sensors, and then outputs could be a valve or pump controller. I'm sure you know someone who's into hydroponics, for instance.
[2:15] <myself> there should be example code and circuits for most of those things, and getting them each running individually would be good stepping stones on your way to getting them all running simultaneously ;)
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[2:34] <Infester> thanks myself
[2:35] <Infester> I'll see if i can come up with an application to make it interesting
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[3:50] <UncleKiwi> hey is the RPi 2 B as stable as the previous versions
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[3:52] <UncleKiwi> i just bought three so im hoping so
[3:52] <Xark> UncleKiwi: More so IME (and usable speed now). :)
[3:53] <UncleKiwi> yeah the speed will be cool
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[3:54] <UncleKiwi> i had a bit of drama at the start with uptime and data corruption with the RPi - but it was all dure to bad power supplys
[3:57] <Xark> UncleKiwi: That can be an issue. I use 3A on my RPi2 (with external HDD). I recommend not using SD for root too (for long-life without corruption).
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[3:59] <UncleKiwi> yeah i am doing that also
[3:59] <UncleKiwi> and I am using SMARTD to monitor the disk haha
[3:59] <UncleKiwi> and i have gracefull shutdowns with NUT
[4:00] <UncleKiwi> using a UPS
[4:00] <UncleKiwi> I think I will be able to get atleast 1 year uptime
[4:01] <UncleKiwi> I have two at 150 days with no problems
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[4:05] <UncleKiwi> are the heat sinks required for the RPi's ?
[4:06] <UncleKiwi> or I wonder if the help ?
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[4:14] <ozzzy> UncleKiwi, no.... they don't tend to do much
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[5:17] <akar> wondering how to attach heatsink in RPi... will ordinary cpu thermal paste do the work?
[5:21] <UncleKiwi> the heatsinks have a sticky side haha
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[5:21] <UncleKiwi> well the ones ya can get from ebay do anyway
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[5:28] <akar> ic..
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[5:39] <aswin> Hi all I am getting a booting error with RPi 2
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[5:40] <aswin> "end kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
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[5:58] <MMukherjee> who attempted to kill init process?!?!?!?!
[5:59] <aswin> no one !!
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[6:15] <MMukherjee> lol
[6:15] <MMukherjee> Tell me your GRUB commandline
[6:15] <MMukherjee> oh, he goddamn left
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[10:03] <linuxmint> Hello, my Jessie Wi-Fi worked, broke, worked and is broken again.
[10:04] <linuxmint> The GUI doesn't seem to prompt for a Pre Shared Key.
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[10:07] <Groggy> linuxmint: A bit to little information. What are the components of your setup? (psu, wifi stick, etc.)
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[10:11] <linuxmint> Groggy: sorry. My Pi 2 with Jessie has this config in /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf http://dpaste.com/0BG8GHY
[10:13] <Groggy> linuxmint: don't be sorry, but more information will most probably make other people want to help you. I myselft are not that good at the wpa_supplicant.conf file, but I know that some USB-sticks will draw more current than your psu can give and therefore shut it down. But I quess your GUI lists your wifi in the list?
[10:14] <linuxmint> Here's the /etc/network/interfaces http://dpaste.com/2YXYYR9
[10:15] * ShorTie wonders if he has l00ked thru dmesg to see if it is getting disconnected and/or if power light blinks at all
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[10:19] <ShorTie> what size is your power supply ??
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[10:22] <CoJaBo> linuxmint: are you sure that config is correct?
[10:23] <ShorTie> I'd guess, if it works, then the configs are ok, don't believe no config settings are gonna cause a disconnect
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[10:37] <linuxmint> Sorry, had to reboot the Pi. The power supply is http://dpaste.com/209J4E8
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[10:38] <ShorTie> 1.0a is most likely not big enough for wifi
[10:39] <linuxmint> CoJaBo: I assume the config is correct as it did work. All I change is /etc/network/interfaces: dpaste.com/2YXYYR9 and /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf dpaste.com/0BG8GHY
[10:40] <CoJaBo> linuxmint: The stuff written on (cheap) USB power supplies tends to be about as reliable as a weeks worth of Cosmo mags; i.e., utter BS. Try a different PSU, there isn't really a decent way to tell what's good and what isn't.
[10:41] <linuxmint> ShorTie: yes, the Pi 2 says it needs 1.8A.
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[10:42] <CoJaBo> Mine draws something like 400ma with wifi
[10:43] <ShorTie> the foundation recommends a 2.5amp supply
[10:43] <linuxmint> CoJaBo: I don't know what the Pi 2 draws as I use the Wi-Fi dongle, but the Pi 2 specs says it needs a 1.8A power supply.
[10:44] <CoJaBo> linuxmint: That assumes that a 1.8A PSU can actually supply 1.8A; unless you got it from a known good source, the value can be anywhere from 2-4× the actual amount of amps it's capable of
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[10:45] <CoJaBo> Don't forget the cable either; I have one I found with a 1.2v drop under load o_O
[10:45] <linuxmint> CoJaBo: ? So that means the 1A could be outputting 2A-4A?
[10:46] <linuxmint> CoJaBo: boy, that means I need to test the cable with a volt meter or something?
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[10:46] <CoJaBo> linuxmint: It tends to be trial and error; if you do have a meter, check the voltage at the testpoints or GPIO
[10:46] <linuxmint> k
[10:47] <ShorTie> also, the quality of the micro-usb cable providing the power plays a big role too, does your's have any writing on it that tells the wire sizes or is it a cheap tensil coated plastic wire phone charging cord ??
[10:48] <CoJaBo> linuxmint: And I mean that chargers you get at a store or on Amazon can be wayyy under spec; I have one that's rated 2A... It outputs 27v no-load, and 3.5v at 250ma
[10:48] <CoJaBo> That's off by a factor of 10
[10:48] <CoJaBo> ShorTie: I've never even seen one with wire sizes lol
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[10:52] <ShorTie> So So Sorry, then you do not have any good one's
[10:53] <linuxmint> ShorTie: the USB cable is a: E252840 FU AWM 2725 80C 30V VW-1 USB SHIELDED28AWG/1P+28AWG/2C HIGH-SPEED USB2.0 DESAY WIRE
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[10:55] <ShorTie> ya, 28AWG is small, need more like 24awg or you will get a voltage drop across the cable causing the usb to drop out
[10:56] <ShorTie> and it will only show up under load and be so quick you most likely will not see the drop on a regular meter
[10:57] <linuxmint> So, I guess I'm stuffed then?
[10:57] <ShorTie> but if you stare at the power light, you might see it blink once or twice
[10:57] <CoJaBo> Try another cable?
[10:57] <linuxmint> The power light blinks a lot.
[10:57] <CoJaBo> Yeh, that's def. bad
[10:58] <CoJaBo> Mine blinks quite infrequently and it's never caused a problem, but ideally it should never blink at all.
[10:58] <linuxmint> I suppose I'll try another power supply with 1.8V (maybe test with a volt meter) and USB cable. These bills add up as they cost about $30 per piece. eBay would be $4 but not sure about quality?
[10:58] <CoJaBo> Ebay you're garanteed to get a counterfeit
[10:59] <CoJaBo> That's where that 27v one came from
[10:59] <CoJaBo> I have 2 of them now
[11:00] <ShorTie> <linuxmint> The power light blinks a lot., that tells all
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[11:01] <ShorTie> i'd most likely start with a better cable
[11:01] <ShorTie> but a bigger power supply would not hurt either
[11:01] <linuxmint> ShorTie: yes, thanks. An eye opener I overlooked. I have some power supplies and cables here. Let's see if the power light stays constant red. brb after some reboots.
[11:02] <CoJaBo> The ones designed/sold for the pi are usually 5.2v, to compensate for cable voltage drop
[11:02] <linuxmint> Pi 2 says 1.8A officially. I'm using 1A.
[11:02] <CoJaBo> The easiest way is to just try a bunch tho
[11:02] <ShorTie> you really should not draw more then 70-80% of the rated power supply output for long periods of time
[11:02] <linuxmint> *12V 1A
[11:03] <Berg> i have a samsung galaxy power supply 5v 2a it is free cvause was my friends old phone
[11:03] <linuxmint> ShorTie: but if I buy say a 12V 2A, I'm worried about blowing up the Pi2 which is recommended with 12V 1.8A. If I used a 12V 5A, would that blow up the Pi 2?
[11:03] <linuxmint> Yes, I'm trying a Motorola PSU now with 12 V 1.2A, then an HTC 12V 1A.
[11:04] <ShorTie> https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/#powerReqs "though you may want to get a 2.5A (2500mA)", as Tim Taylor says, never got enough power
[11:04] <linuxmint> Also trying another USB cable...rebooting.
[11:04] <pksato> 12V?
[11:04] <Berg> bit much
[11:04] <linuxmint> k, thanks.
[11:04] <ShorTie> can't blow the pi up that way
[11:04] <Berg> i blew it up
[11:04] <linuxmint> :)
[11:04] <Berg> but that was maybe 150volts
[11:04] <ShorTie> i got mine hooked up to a atx power supply that can deliever 30amps
[11:04] <linuxmint> lol
[11:05] <ShorTie> it will only use what it needs
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[11:05] <CoJaBo> ShorTie: ATX power supplies can be flaky for that tho; they have *minimum* amp requirements
[11:06] <ShorTie> really, ideally, is a 5.2v @ 2.5amp supply
[11:07] <ShorTie> there is a pc hooked up to it too, gotta have a load on the power supply just to turn it on
[11:08] <Berg> i saw a guide on that you have to loop back two plugs
[11:08] <Berg> its on yourtube
[11:08] <CoJaBo> The Paperclip Trick
[11:08] <Berg> or minetube
[11:09] <CoJaBo> It won't provide good power tho without a minimum load
[11:09] <CoJaBo> An HDD seems to do the trick
[11:09] <ShorTie> or old cdrom
[11:09] <CoJaBo> cdrom I doubt would draw much of anything tho
[11:09] <ShorTie> you gotta be hooked up, don't have to actually use it
[11:10] <Berg> uswe it as a cup holder?
[11:10] <Berg> use
[11:10] <Berg> sorry my bad
[11:10] <ShorTie> true, lol.
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[11:11] <CoJaBo> Berg: I've seen people do that, with disasterous results
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[11:36] <linuxmint> Thanks. Using a 12V 1.2A and Pi 2 power led is solid red. Much better.
[11:36] <linuxmint> Althought Wi-Fi still an issue. Can focus on the Wi-Fi with the power sorted out.
[11:36] <pksato> ah
[11:46] <d4rkforce> The Pi2 is powered via 12V? I thought it was 5V, like the old one?
[11:48] <ntnlzr> uk version
[11:48] <ntnlzr> maybe
[11:48] <ntnlzr> pi2 is powered 5V too
[11:50] <linuxmint> d4rkforce: sorry, yes 5V, not 12V.
[11:50] <linuxmint> Pi2 1.8A, up to 2.5A if using all 4 USB ports.
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[11:54] <linuxmint> Just realised I put a 12V 1.8A in. Better pull it out before my Pi 2 cooks.
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[11:56] <d4rkforce> linuxmint: ah, I was just curious because I thought about replacing one of my pis with the pi2
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[12:13] <linuxmint> d4rkforce: k. Fixed the power, but the Wi-Fi is still problematic and the Bluetooth keyboard will not connect. (although need to try again with better power now).
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[14:08] * SirLagz is going to install a Salt minion on his Pi
[14:11] <shiftplusone> a what what?
[14:12] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: Salt minion. Salt = Config management system. Salt Minion = Salt agent
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[14:12] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: since the Pi is likely to die anytime, and since I don't actually have anything important on the Pi, with Salt, if the Pi dies, I can "instantly" rebuild it :D
[14:12] <shiftplusone> Idk, that kind of sounds like effort. Are you sure that's wise?
[14:13] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: well at least that way if the Pi dies, I can rebuild it easier :D
[14:13] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: plus I need to learn some config management stuff anyway
[14:13] <shiftplusone> sounds like a future Sir Lagz' problem. I'd leave it as is.
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[14:14] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: well, not really, since the Pi is already half deaD :P
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[14:14] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: The Pi booted off a *dodgy* sd card...so it's likely to die at anytime
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[14:15] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: at least if I build it now, when I need to rebuild my Pi, it'll be ready to go
[14:16] <shiftplusone> Is this the thingy thing? http://saltstack.com/
[14:17] <shiftplusone> ahd seems like it is.... https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/tutorials/walkthrough.html
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[14:19] <shiftplusone> Sounds like a lot of work for something that could be done with an apt-get and an rsync.
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[14:22] <linuxmint> Sorry, but does anyone know how to make the Wi-Fi work on the Raspberry Pi 2? I thought about a work around of connecting my phone to Wi-Fi, then somehow tether the Raspberry Pi to the phone's Wi-Fi (not a cellular hotspot).
[14:25] <TheLostAdmin> I dug into the guts of one of those "infrastructure management tools" once. It was rsync.
[14:26] <Nardin> linuxmint: have you a usb dongle?
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[14:27] <linuxmint> Nardin: yes, the USB dongle works and finds lots of Wi-Fi networks. I have wpa_supplicant configured and the GUI lets me enter the Pre Shared key for some Wi-Fi networks, but not for the Wi-Fi network I need.
[14:27] <linuxmint> The Wi-Fi network I need has the network details entered in wpa_supplicant.conf.
[14:28] <linuxmint> Wrong/too weak power may have been an issue, but I've since been using correct power.
[14:29] <Nardin> have you tried inserting the wlan credentials directly into /etc/network/interfaces?
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[14:29] <linuxmint> Nardin: no, I link to wpa_supplicant.conf. I'll try that.
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[14:36] <Nardin> linuxmint: or maybe you can try wicd
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[14:37] <linuxmint> k, not familiar with wicd, will look it up.
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[14:42] <gorroth> Kernel[Linux grim-pi-tv 4.1.6+] CPU[700 MHz] MemFree(M)[369/434] DiskFree(G)[8/14] Uptime[39 days 14 hours 47 minutes] Users[1] LoadAvg[0.00]
[14:42] <gorroth> computers, they so lol-able
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[14:55] <Tenkawa> hi all
[14:55] <shiftplusone> Hello, sir
[14:56] <Tenkawa> whats new?
[14:56] <Tenkawa> anything of note?
[14:56] <MY123_SurfaceRT> Tenkawa: nothing except maybe yet another Windows 10 IoT build with a partial GPU driver
[14:56] <shiftplusone> I ate a plum
[14:57] <Tenkawa> MY123_SurfaceRT: ouch
[14:57] <MY123_SurfaceRT> Tenkawa: it's still not complete enough for commercial-quality
[14:57] <MY123_SurfaceRT> (but will implement full DirectX)
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[15:13] <Tenkawa> oops... crashed
[15:13] <Tenkawa> this sdio card tends to from time to time
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[15:54] <A1F4> is it possible to run ubuntu mate on raspi
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[15:58] <shiftplusone> A1F4: Don't mean to be rude, but wouldn't the first sensible place to check be the ubuntu mate website?
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[15:59] <ppq> no, that would be way to easy
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[16:01] <shiftplusone> Guess it was too rude to point that out.
[16:02] <Armand> Coz, like.. Googling is SSOOOOOO difficult. :P
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[16:02] <shiftplusone> I'm not normally that guy, but that was a clear case of "can somebody google this for me now?"
[16:02] <Armand> Yup
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[16:03] <d4rkforce> shiftplusone: makes you wonder though. Connecting to freenode, joining the channel, asking the question. Seems like a lot more work then doing it yourself
[16:04] <shiftplusone> yes, idk =S
[16:04] <selckin> whats ubuntu mate? don't make me read the marketing ont he website
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[16:04] <shiftplusone> selckin: it's ubuntu....with MATE installed
[16:04] <shiftplusone> MATE is a fork of gnome before they messed up gnome
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[16:05] <selckin> ah i've been out of the loop
[16:05] <Lartza> mate is a fork of gnome 2
[16:05] <Lartza> more specifically
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[16:18] <BetaSoul> Hey, how dangerous is it to power the Adafruit 16 channel servo driver from the raspberry pi b2's 5V lead for prototyping.
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[16:19] <BetaSoul> I'm not going to use that for my final solution, of course, but I can't find any female adapters in my toolbox.
[16:20] <myself> Depends entirely on how much current your servos are drawing. Consider that DC motors draw their stall current for an instant when they start up.
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[16:22] <BetaSoul> The're only 3v servos.
[16:22] <BetaSoul> So not a huge draw.
[16:22] <myself> If you're just using a scope or something on the pulse output, that's totally fine. I'd use a 5g servo for testing and feel okay about it, but wouldn't put a load on the horn, and wouldn't hook anything beefier to the 5v rail
[16:22] <myself> that's probably fine. I mean, if you have an oscilloscope, watch the noise on the 5v and you'll know when you're abusing it ;)
[16:23] <BetaSoul> @myself: That was my feeling too. Find for some basic control and set up, while I wait for new gear to get in.
[16:23] <BetaSoul> And I don't have one, but I can get access to one.
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[16:25] <myself> I've found that the more time I spend with an oscilloscope, the less I need one for basic stuff, cuz I've developed a pretty good intuition for the basic stuff. But also, the more I want one for complicated stuff, cuz I appreciate how useful that information can be when I don't really know what's going on. :)
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[16:31] <day> i use my 10eur logic analyzer so much more than my scope :(
[16:32] <myself> yeah, once you've got the analog side working straight, that's the way it goes. but when the LA is confused or not useful, chances are you need a scope to see what's really going on :)
[16:33] <myself> I think it was Pease or Widlar who quipped that digital, after all, is just analog with the gain turned all the way up. :P
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[17:33] <oskie> hello, looking for a raspberry pi image of a debian or ubuntu based OS, max 1GB! any ideas what to look for?
[17:33] <oskie> where to look I mean
[17:33] <oskie> or whatever...
[17:34] * ShorTie thinkz, http://nightly.raspberrypi.org/nightlyimages-v2/ maybe
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[17:35] <oskie> i'll give it a look
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[17:59] <aswin> My raspberry pi is giving booting error
[17:59] <aswin> init interrupted
[18:00] <aswin> So I created a new sd card with image. It also failed to boot the device
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[18:03] <giddles> init.d scripts running?
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[18:05] <Encrypt> What is the error?
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[18:08] <aswin> Encrypt: Its giving some kernel panic unable to boot
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[18:08] <Rubafix> Hello
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[18:10] <Rubafix> What did you guys would recommend to make a bootable raspbian on windows? Lili fails repeatedly
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[18:12] <myself> chrysocome dd
[18:12] <myself> http://www.chrysocome.net//dd
[18:13] <myself> oh waitasec, rasbian can just write to the card can't it? noobs can...
[18:13] <myself> (I'm still download raspbian)
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[18:13] <myself> forgive me for leading you astray with dd, skip that. It'll only make it easy to hose your disks.
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[18:18] <deavmi> anybody know some high power WiFi cards (2.4 GHz) for the raspberry pi (raspbian)
[18:18] <deavmi> as I want.to use one with a powered USB hub
[18:18] <deavmi> :)
[18:19] <deavmi> * want to
[18:19] <Rubafix> myself: Well noobs will only work with raspbian, I'd like a more generic approach. I was so used to Lili that when it doesn't work I'm lost =)
[18:20] <myself> I'll have raspbian here in like 5 minutes and I'll see what happens. :) Waiting on network..
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[18:22] <d4rkforce> under unix/linux just use dd
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[18:22] <myself> looks like http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup is the best guide
[18:22] <d4rkforce> Under windows you can use win32diskimager
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[18:22] <d4rkforce> if you are talking about the rasbian image
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[18:27] <Rubafix> I am using DiskImage already, I gave it a go yesterday but the pi was complaining about a kernel error
[18:28] <Rubafix> I have another ongoing Disk Imager try but it takes some time thanks to the damn >4GB img
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[18:40] <myself> Well crap. My "4GB" card is a few sectors too small...
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[18:41] * myself grabs a 16
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[18:45] <myself> Well, switching to the larger SD card also *massively* improved performance, went from a no-brand 4 to a Samsung 16 and it's halfway done already
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[18:48] <fluffet> it's worth getting a good card :)
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[18:51] * myself smackes the Staples(r) Easy Button(tm)
[18:51] <myself> because that was easy.
[18:51] <myself> I don't have a monitor but I'm on the serial console and she's running happily, booted from the card no problem
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[18:53] <Karlton> $ du -hs /boot
[18:53] <Karlton> 15M /boot
[18:53] <Karlton> that's the total size of whats on my SD card ;)
[18:54] <Karlton> I use external usb ssd card for the userland
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[18:58] <myself> I'm not enough of a linux kid yet to understand how that works ;)
[18:58] <myself> give me an instruction set manual and an eprom, I'm comfortable on the bare metal
[18:59] <myself> this whole "it's running a kernel and you don't get to play with chip registers" tihng is a bit foreign
[19:00] <hstl> Hi! Is there in the universe another wire for raspberry pi cam? I want it tobe longer
[19:01] <myself> CSI isn't really good for long distances, but the type of wire is generally called FPC, so if you look up the details of the connector, you could order some longer pieces and make a coupler
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[19:02] <myself> waitasec.. https://www.adafruit.com/products/1648
[19:02] <myself> yes, exactly that
[19:02] <Rubafix> You could have a usb camera. Even the be should be convertible no?
[19:03] <myself> USB can extend an absurd amount.
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[19:07] <Rubafix> Raspbian sucks
[19:07] <ReadySetWait> Rubafix, why? are you having trouble with something?
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[19:08] <Rubafix> Its like 200% bloated by hundred of useless stuff, not mentioning python games. I have some slowdown even with basic stuff like opening the default browser
[19:08] <Rubafix> Someone told me about minibian, however it is currently on an old version of debian
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[19:09] <Rubafix> Is there a net install version with minimal package of raspbian?
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[19:10] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[19:10] <hstl> myself, thank you very much!
[19:10] <shiftplusone> https://repo.xecdesign.com/tmp/2015-10-23-raspbian-jessie-noX.zip
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[19:13] <zleap> hi
[19:13] <gorroth> raspbian is sexy
[19:13] <gorroth> although, i wish it was easier to get raspbian installed WITHOUT all the gui stuff
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[19:13] <gorroth> i just kind of want a minimal install with no services
[19:14] <zleap> i think i have found a bug in services-admin http://zleap.net/possible-pi-app-bug/
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[19:14] <zleap> gorroth: i think there are minimal versions of raspbian out there
[19:14] <gorroth> maybe
[19:14] <gorroth> i'll look for one sometime
[19:15] <gorroth> for now, i just uninstall everything i don't want and go from there
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[19:15] <myself> So... https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
[19:15] <zleap> this is also mentioned on the forum section of the downloads page https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
[19:15] <Rubafix> Dang thanks a lot shiftplusone. I'm not sure how the fuck I missed that
[19:15] <myself> for the masochists in the crowd :)
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[19:15] <zleap> may be worth adding the request there too
[19:15] <gorroth> no, i will never use gentoo :) especially not on a pi
[19:16] <ReadySetWait> the only thing that really annoys me about raspbian is that it defaults to UK English...but I guess that's fair given it's a UK product
[19:16] <gorroth> i already had my experience (a few times) of building KDE for 24 hours on my P3-500 12 years ago
[19:16] <zleap> brb
[19:16] <Rubafix> Its really strange that they did not put 2GB of ram in the Pi 2
[19:16] <myself> lmao
[19:16] <myself> only 24 hours?
[19:17] <zleap> cost
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[19:17] <gorroth> Rubafix: you can get Pi's custom made by element14 now (probably for a really high price)
[19:17] <gorroth> so you could fix that :-P
[19:17] <zleap> they wanted to keep the cost below £35
[19:17] <zleap> or rather $35
[19:17] <zleap> or use a similar product that has the extra ram
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[19:18] <Rubafix> That's too bad, because with the 1GHz quadcore the real limitation comes from memory now
[19:18] <gorroth> thankfully, as silicon prices continue to come down in everything except CPUs (until graphene, at least), we can keep getting more stuff added for low prices
[19:18] <zleap> yeah
[19:18] <NedScott> I was under the impression that even getting 1GB of RAM required a bit of trickery
[19:18] <NedScott> with that SoC
[19:18] <zleap> well as the price drops the R&D team will make improve ments and add new pis to the product list
[19:18] <zleap> I guess
[19:18] <myself> People have done that RAM upgrade on the Jetson, I don't see why you couldn't do it on the Pi. Just takes some BGA rework equipment and skills.. :)
[19:19] <gorroth> yeah
[19:19] <Rubafix> Ah so that coulbe be a manufacturing problem then
[19:19] <gorroth> it makes sense they will do that, zleap
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[19:19] <gorroth> myself: cost is probably the #1 reason, since the RPi has a specific price target
[19:19] <zleap> hence the Pi2
[19:19] <gorroth> but i think the RPi2 i sonly $30 now
[19:19] <zleap> and target audience
[19:19] <gorroth> so we're already seeing manufacturing improvements there
[19:19] <NedScott> the model B used to only have 256 MB of RAM
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[19:19] <zleap> which is still education
[19:20] <NedScott> if they can shove more RAM in there for the same cost, I think they will try
[19:20] <Rubafix> Its really my main issue with the raspberry, I'm not sure how good is class 10 microsd as swap
[19:20] <zleap> yeah
[19:20] <NedScott> but 1GB of RAM on a mid-range ARM device isn't bad
[19:20] <zleap> but a good programmer can do a lot with 1gb ram
[19:20] <NedScott> my phone only has 1GB of RAM
[19:20] <NedScott> and it does all sorts of crazy stuff
[19:20] <zleap> heck back in the 80's had 48k
[19:20] <NedScott> like snake
[19:21] <gorroth> wired networking, usb power, and power-protected GPIO are my main concerns with the RPi
[19:21] <gorroth> i would like easy access to PWMs
[19:21] <zleap> arduino has that
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[19:22] <gorroth> yes, but it doesn't have 32 or 64 bits of processing power
[19:22] <zleap> ok
[19:22] <gorroth> and it means i have to connect something additional to the RPi :)
[19:22] <gorroth> right now, i'm using a custom built AVR system to drive motors via PWM
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[19:22] <gorroth> AVR (the MCU family that goes into arduino)
[19:22] <jer> hell, i have a dsp i'm working on right now that only has 4k of ram =D
[19:23] <myself> gorroth: you really should be looking at the beaglebone if you want more I/O, PWM and better wired networking (not on an internal USB controller). Or something like the Jetson if you need CPU grunt, but its GPIO pins are 2mm PITA-style. :/
[19:23] <gorroth> sorry, AVR is the instruction set
[19:23] <myself> Jetson has GigE, giggity :P
[19:23] <gorroth> myself: i don't want to pay the cost
[19:23] <myself> yeah, that's true.
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[19:23] <gorroth> i know it's not THAT expensive for one or two bots
[19:23] <myself> Bone is cheap, especially the Green
[19:23] <gorroth> but if i want to produce a lot of them, it adds up then :)
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[19:24] <myself> Looks like larger RAM would require more address lines than the chip has, so your option here is fast swap on an SSD or something.
[19:25] <exonormal> all he needs is a Gertboard
[19:25] <exonormal> that has a lot of IOs
[19:26] <exonormal> The Gertboard is on sale at Element14 now..
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[19:26] <exonormal> good time to buy one now.
[19:27] <gorroth> i have one of the original gertboards, but it's in kit form
[19:27] <gorroth> and i've been incredibly lazy with ever putting it together
[19:27] * gorroth doesn't like soldering too much
[19:27] <exonormal> won't take long if you put your mind to it
[19:27] <gorroth> yeah, it will. also, i wouldn't want a gertboard in a final product
[19:27] <gorroth> they're too expensive
[19:28] <zleap> even banani-pi 2 has 1gb ram
[19:28] <exonormal> but the fully assembled one on Element14 is cheap now..
[19:28] <zleap> but the same processor as the rasp pi
[19:28] <gorroth> but the banana pi is not pretty :(
[19:28] <gorroth> exonormal: if it's more than $10, it's expensive, hehe
[19:28] <zleap> i was just looking to see if it had more ram
[19:28] <exonormal> oh well... put the one you have together
[19:28] <gorroth> exonormal: i already built an avr system
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[19:29] <exonormal> ok
[19:29] <gorroth> it's more flexible
[19:29] <gorroth> at least for my stuff
[19:29] <exonormal> ok
[19:29] <exonormal> ok
[19:29] <gorroth> but i think the BCM on the rpi has hardware pwm. i just need to figure out how to get to it sometime
[19:29] <pksato> gorroth: that are used for audio output.
[19:30] <gorroth> pksato: ah, well, i don't need no stinkin' audio. so, i don't mind taking them over
[19:30] <pksato> have one channel that can be routed to gpio header.
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[19:30] <gorroth> oh, only one channel on the BCM?
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[19:30] <pksato> two
[19:30] <gorroth> okay
[19:30] <gorroth> each with independent compare units?
[19:31] <pksato> I dont know details.
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[19:31] <gorroth> np
[19:31] <gorroth> i'll keep looking around online
[19:31] <pksato> but, have stereo audio.
[19:31] <gorroth> people already know this stuff, but they usually have higher level components. i need mine to be hard realtime
[19:31] <gorroth> yeah
[19:31] <zleap> gorroth: looks like gordonDrogon has a solution https://projects.drogon.net/software-pwm-on-the-raspberry-pi/
[19:31] <gorroth> that is not a solution that works for me
[19:32] <gorroth> i have hard realtime requirements
[19:32] <pksato> have lots sw pwm libs.
[19:32] <zleap> ok
[19:32] <gorroth> that's why, for the moment, i'm just using the atmega chips
[19:32] <gorroth> they're really good at that kind of thing
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[19:49] <ali1234> Rubafix: the raspberry pi cannot use 2GB of RAM due to the GPU architecture
[19:50] <ali1234> it uses MIPS style address aliasing which means it can only address 1GB of memory space
[19:50] <ali1234> 1GB is the absolute limit and due to peripherals being memory mapped you actually lose about 16MB of that 1GB due to shadowing
[19:52] <ali1234> gorroth: get a adafruit PWM hat if you want lots of PWM
[19:52] <ali1234> they make several types
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[20:21] <gorroth> ali1234: i think i saw those at one point, but mine ends up needing something a "little smarter" anyway, since i'm going to combine it with xbee and, currently, make a long-range r/c setup
[20:21] <gorroth> but those drivers look so hot
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[21:17] <d4rkforce> Has anyone ever tried to setup an adhoc wifi network with two 8192cu usb wifi adapters? Everything seems to be fine, the link is established, but I can not ping or otherwise communicate over the link
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[21:23] <ali1234> does the pi i2c hardware support modified transactions?
[21:23] <SpeedEvil> d4rkforce: tcpdump
[21:23] <SpeedEvil> (in promisc mode)
[21:23] <SpeedEvil> see if packets are going out
[21:23] <ali1234> i'm getting really weird results when trying to use them so i'm guessing no?
[21:23] <SpeedEvil> What do you mean by 'the link is'
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[21:25] <d4rkforce> SpeedEvil: As soon, as I boot the second machine, I can see that a link is established via iwconfig. Also dhcpcd is triggered and assigns a static ip
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[21:31] <fluffet> i need to configure some router settings remotely, luckily this raspberry pi which i am ssh'd into right now is on that lan
[21:32] <fluffet> is the only way to do it use X-forwarding and opening a browser?
[21:32] <fluffet> or is it better to use some sort of vpn tunnel
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[21:35] <d4rkforce> fluffet: can't you just use a ssh tunnel?
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[21:36] <k_j> hi guys
[21:36] <fluffet> what do you mean? is that even a thing?
[21:37] <k_j> does a complete case for camera & pi touchscreen exists?
[21:38] <d4rkforce> fluffet: sure, just hit <enter>~C during the ssh session (or add it to the ssh command) and use -L to forward a port
[21:39] <fluffet> oh, that seems to be kind of what i want
[21:40] <fluffet> that way i would be able to reach that gateway by using my own browser and going to 192.168.1.1 right
[21:40] <fluffet> ?
[21:41] <d4rkforce> yes, you could do something like -L 8080:YOUR_ROUTER_IP:ROUTER_PORT and then just connect to localhost:8080
[21:42] <fluffet> that is amazing
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[21:45] <fluffet> it works
[21:45] <fluffet> thank you so much, d4rkforce
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[21:51] <fluffet> kinda scary though, how much you can do if you can just ssh into a machine :D
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[21:54] <d4rkforce> fluffet: no problem. SSH is such a great tool!
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[23:28] <FlyingPersian> hi. is it possible to create a backup of a rpi OS (rasplex) and fully restore it so everything is as it is?
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[23:35] <ppq> sure
[23:35] <ppq> just make an image of your sd
[23:35] <ppq> or clone it so you have a physical backup you can simply plug in if needed
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[23:38] <FlyingPersian> yeah used win32 disk imager to make an image
[23:38] <FlyingPersian> trying to run debian and rasplex in dualboot :X
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[23:50] <FlyingPersian> hm damn
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[23:52] <FlyingPersian> my image is 7,7GB and my SD card is 8GB :x might be tight to squeeze in 2 OSs, right?
[23:52] <FlyingPersian> os is the image the size of the entire SD card?
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[23:56] <ppq> FlyingPersian, yeah, the image is the size of the sd-card
[23:56] <FlyingPersian> ah okay good
[23:57] <ppq> since every bit is copied, whether it is free space or data

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