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IRC Log for 2015-10-30

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[0:15] <Rubafix> Hello
[0:16] <Rubafix> How do you manage to connect to your Pi through internet? I did setup openssh, which seems to be the way to go. But i can't manage to reach it from outside my network
[0:17] <nid0> you probably need to forward port 22 to the pi at your router
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[0:28] <fernandog> Dont forward port 22 to internet unless disable pasword auth and enable key auth
[0:29] <fernandog> Also change default ssh port to other than 22
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[0:31] <Rubafix> Why change port 22? And I did not fully understand your first sentence. you mean using the private/public key pair thing?
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[0:33] <Rubafix> I'm really just starting out with linux, and raspberry. But its always fun to learn stuff, even if it means spending hours tweaking config files =)
[0:35] <Rubafix> Damn, I installed raspbian net install, and the sudo command is not found.. how is that even possible ?
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[0:37] <shauno> you wanted minimal. side effect of minimal is that things aren't there :)
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[0:37] <Rubafix> Yeah but like sudo ^^. This mean the system that limit user action is not in place right?
[0:38] <shauno> well, if you're not mistaken and it really isn't installed, you'd need to use su & the root account instead
[0:38] <shauno> sudo doesn't so much limit things - quite the opposite. it allows things that ordinarily wouldn't be
[0:39] <Rubafix> Do you happen to know why fernandog told me not to use port 22 for open ssh?
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[0:40] <shauno> not using the default port is a popular way to dramatically decrease the number of "drive-by attacks" you get
[0:40] <FlyingPersian> anyone knows how I can format a SD card to FAT?
[0:40] <Rubafix> It seems there's only the root account atm. I just need to setup everything to be remotly configurable and go to bed ^^ then i'll keep playing with the thing at work
[0:40] <shauno> it's not security in itself, but it does make your logs a lot quieter. (the actual security comes from using keys instead of passwords)
[0:40] <FlyingPersian> need it for BerryBoot (multi-os boot)
[0:40] <Rubafix> FlyingPersian: Use gparted, 200% easy way
[0:40] <Rubafix> shauno: alright got it thanks
[0:41] <FlyingPersian> okay
[0:42] <shauno> FlyingPersian: type mkfs and hit tab, see which variants are installed. if you're missing mkfs.msdos and mkfs.vfat, install dosfstools
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[0:42] <shauno> (msdos and vfat are fat16 and fat32 respectively)
[0:43] <FlyingPersian> type it were shauno ?
[0:43] <FlyingPersian> cmd?
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[0:43] <shauno> oh, yeah. in a terminal on your pi. mkfs, no space, then tab twice so it tries to complete it
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[0:44] <shauno> if that's unfamiliar to you, just try installing dosfstools, it'll politely decline if you already have them. mkfs.vfat is what you're looking for
[0:45] <shauno> (assuming you're trying to format a card on your pi?)
[0:46] <Rubafix> ipv6 addresses will kill me
[0:46] <Rubafix> forwarding ports has never been that troublesome
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[0:47] <shauno> you're port-forwarding to v6?
[0:47] <FlyingPersian> brb
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[0:50] <Rubafix> shauno: yes my box is set up for ipv6
[0:51] <shauno> right, it's just that you don't usually require forwarding with ipv6. finally killing NAT is one of it's best features :)
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[0:51] <shauno> I mean, if it has an address starting with 2 or 3, you should be able to reach that from outside
[0:51] <Rubafix> Well there is a firewall page in the ipv6 config panel
[0:52] <shauno> ahh. so it's more likely there than forwarding
[0:52] <shauno> or both - you'll still require forwarding if you want to connect in over ipv4
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[0:52] <Rubafix> i did setup both ipv6 and ipv4
[0:53] <Rubafix> however even after restart I can't connect anymore on ssh
[0:53] <Rubafix> even in local, I used port 40022
[0:53] <Rubafix> edited con
[0:54] <Rubafix> ssh_config in etc
[0:54] <Rubafix> decommented port line.
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[0:55] <Rubafix> do you happen to know how to display the port used by a service?
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[0:58] <shauno> netstat -alp | grep sshd should show it
[0:58] <shauno> you should see a line *:yourport (and others if you're connected via ssh, but the one with *'s is the relevant one)
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[1:00] <Rubafix> I have two: tcp and tcp6, both lines ends with LISTEN 4303/sshd
[1:00] <shauno> the end is just the process number/name, it'll be the fourth column that's interesting
[1:00] <Rubafix> so I guess it is using port 4303, not sure where does that come from
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[1:01] <Rubafix> 4th is *:* for tcp and [::]:* for tcp6
[1:02] <Rubafix> the ipv4 line is:
[1:02] <Rubafix> tcp 0 0 *:ssh *:* LISTEN 4303/sshd
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[1:03] <shauno> there we go, the *:ssh .. so it's still on 22
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[1:04] <shauno> so, make sure you're editing sshd_config (on the pi), not ssh_config - sshd is what's receiving. and make sure you restart the process after (service ssh restart)
[1:05] <Rubafix> what is ssh_config then?
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[1:05] <shauno> ssh connects to sshd. so sshd is what's listening, so what you're trying to change here
[1:05] <shauno> if you change the port in ssh, you change the default port it tries to connect *to* when connecting to other machines
[1:06] <Rubafix> Ah alright, wrong side of the tunnel, got it
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[1:06] <Rubafix> I'll find myself some reading about it tomorrow instead of jumping into the unknown =)
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[1:08] <Rubafix> shauno: Thanks it works, so next step tomorrow is to generate and setup the key pair thing
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[1:08] <shauno> for sure. and at least make sure you're not using the default pi/raspberry user/pass until then ;)
[1:09] <Rubafix> shauno: hum... well
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[1:09] <shauno> that's just making it /too/ easy. openning it to the net with default credentials means china doesn't even have to try
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[1:15] <Rubafix> shauno: well now its modified, and reasy to go. Thanks again, I'm so glad its finally setup. I've got a lot of reading ahead, but at least I can now reach it with my phone =)
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[1:18] <Rubafix> Hey do you happen to know if a jessie release is supposed to happen? I first installed the default jessie raspbian, but it was really a mess. now I have the minimal wheezy
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[1:24] <FlyingPersian> does anyone have experience with berryboot?
[1:24] <shauno> Rubafix: yes, it's supposed to happen last month ;) https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspbian-jessie-is-here/
[1:25] <FlyingPersian> I can't get it to run for some strange reason. copied the files over to the SD (FAT32) and booted the Pi. my receiver actually said "receiver - berryboot), but the picture is black
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[1:27] <Berg> hi
[1:27] <Berg> Im Berg
[1:27] <Berg> <---him
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[1:33] <Rubafix> shauno I love when things happen that fast =)
[1:34] <Rubafix> Also Berg is here
[1:34] <Rubafix> or so I was told
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[1:35] <Rubafix> Ah but no, your talking about the default enormous 4GB raspbian version, but the net-install cute and small one is still on wheezy
[1:36] <FlyingPersian> I hate it when my Pi doesn't do what I want
[1:36] <FlyingPersian> :x
[1:36] <Rubafix> https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/releases/tag/v1.0.7
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[1:36] <Rubafix> FlyingPersian: That's probably because you didn't do what it wanted =)
[1:37] <FlyingPersian> well I did what was said I had to do
[1:37] <FlyingPersian> according to the developers :x
[1:37] <FlyingPersian> at least as far as it's possible
[1:37] <Rubafix> FlyingPersian: Did you say please? :O
[1:37] <FlyingPersian> unfortunately I can't format my SD card to FAT :x
[1:37] <FlyingPersian> I said please, I called it names
[1:37] <Rubafix> What
[1:38] <Rubafix> You are still there
[1:38] <FlyingPersian> according to the documentation my SD card needs to be in FAT
[1:38] <FlyingPersian> although I found tutorials that used FAT32
[1:38] <Rubafix> man just setup gparted as live on usb, boot on it with any pc and do the magic
[1:38] <Rubafix> a 2yo could do it ^^
[1:38] <FlyingPersian> this guy said that he tried gparted, some other tool, cmd
[1:39] <FlyingPersian> I tried CMD and at 100% it said that the SD card is too big for fat32
[1:39] <FlyingPersian> *fat16
[1:39] <FlyingPersian> berryboot actually loads somehow, at least the screen becomes black. but there#s nothing else happening
[1:40] <Rubafix> FlyingPersian: Try this one recommended by the raspbian netinstall readme https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/
[1:40] <FlyingPersian> I did
[1:40] <FlyingPersian> I can#t change the format
[1:40] <Rubafix> So what you are trying to achieve is just install raspbian right?
[1:40] <FlyingPersian> it decides itself which format to use
[1:41] <FlyingPersian> no
[1:41] <FlyingPersian> I want to install raspbian and rasplex (openelec)
[1:41] <FlyingPersian> to do so I need berryboot
[1:42] <FlyingPersian> well my goal is to have a good way of running spotify on my Pi
[1:42] <FlyingPersian> the channel that exists for rasplex to use spotify sucks balls
[1:43] <FlyingPersian> I can't choose a random song from the playlist, only the top song. and the mobile app to control rasplex keeps crashing after 15s when streaming from spotify
[1:43] <FlyingPersian> you see my dilemma? :D
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[1:47] <Rubafix> So like plex is some kind of multimedia server, so its just software to be installed.
[1:52] <Rubafix> FlyingPersian: Well I just did the method with Disk Imager and it worked, the sd card was formatted in fat32
[1:52] <Rubafix> What error are you facing?
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[1:53] <FlyingPersian> in fat32?
[1:53] <FlyingPersian> or FAT (FAT16)
[1:53] <Rubafix> Fat32
[1:53] <FlyingPersian> :D
[1:53] <FlyingPersian> I want FAT
[1:53] <FlyingPersian> not FAT32
[1:53] <FlyingPersian> for FAT32 I could just use windows
[1:53] <Rubafix> why would you want that old fat16?
[1:53] <FlyingPersian> -.-
[1:54] <ppq> vfat in linux is what windows calls fat32
[1:54] <FlyingPersian> cuz BerryBoot requires that (according to the website)
[1:54] <Rubafix> Well I manage to extract it on a fat32 sdcard
[1:55] <FlyingPersian> so did I
[1:55] <FlyingPersian> try running it
[1:55] <Rubafix> Using Disk Imager with this image
[1:55] <Rubafix> http://sourceforge.net/projects/berryboot/files/berryboot-cubieboard-beta6.zip/download
[1:55] <FlyingPersian> also tried that
[1:55] <FlyingPersian> that's worse
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[1:55] <FlyingPersian> when I use that my TV doesn't even get a signal
[1:56] <Rubafix> wait
[1:57] <Rubafix> I'll just try it
[1:57] <Rubafix> and then go to bed =)
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[2:03] <FlyingPersian> okay
[2:03] <FlyingPersian> thanks :D
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[2:04] <Rubafix> I seriously doubt they ask for fat16 =)
[2:04] <FlyingPersian> http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot
[2:05] <FlyingPersian> it's not like I made that up :x
[2:05] <FlyingPersian> To install: extract the contents of the .zip file to a normal (FAT formatted) SD card
[2:06] <Rubafix> Yeah but that's more like they implicitly mean fat32. No one uses fat16
[2:06] <FlyingPersian> that#s dumb though
[2:06] <FlyingPersian> you don't say m if you mean km
[2:07] <FlyingPersian> I tihnk all the formating might have killed my SD card
[2:07] <FlyingPersian> just flashed raspbian and now that's not booting as well
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[2:07] <FlyingPersian> the green light is on, but not flasing
[2:07] <Rubafix> Nah just use gparted, Disk Imager messes up with the partitions
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[2:09] <FlyingPersian> okay it works fine on my other PI
[2:09] <FlyingPersian> so is my Pi dead?!
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[2:11] <Rubafix> Man it works
[2:12] <FlyingPersian> hm
[2:12] <FlyingPersian> then it's my Pi
[2:12] <Rubafix> And you were right it is FAT16
[2:12] <FlyingPersian> might have killed it somehow
[2:12] <FlyingPersian> is it possible that upon loading the new bootloader the one of the pi (is there on) broke=
[2:12] <FlyingPersian> ?
[2:13] <Rubafix> That's disk imager that reformated it probably, it was initially fat32
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[2:14] <FlyingPersian> okay
[2:14] <FlyingPersian> but different issue
[2:14] <FlyingPersian> why isn't anything loading on my Pi?
[2:14] <FlyingPersian> the SD works fine in a diffrent pi
[2:14] <Rubafix> Are the pi the same model?
[2:14] <FlyingPersian> naw Pi 2 ("broken") and Pi B+
[2:15] <FlyingPersian> the Pi2 worked fine 2h ago
[2:15] <FlyingPersian> then I tried the whole berryboot stuff and now when I put in the SD card with raspbian it won't do anything
[2:15] <FlyingPersian> the green light is on, but not doing anything. I don't get any input signal into my TV
[2:15] <Rubafix> Have it unplugged for a minute and try again
[2:16] <FlyingPersian> tried that
[2:16] <FlyingPersian> I'll give it a shot in a minute
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[2:16] <FlyingPersian> does it matter if I switch SD cards between two different pi versions when using raspbian wheezy?
[2:17] <FlyingPersian> just did some stuff to raspbian in the b+ and I now want to plug it in into the Pi 2 - can I do that without any issue
[2:17] <FlyingPersian> ?
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[2:18] <FlyingPersian> weird now it's booting
[2:19] <linuxmint> Hello, Raspberry Pi 2 says power 5V 1.8A up to 2.5A. Could I buy a 3A output, or would the Pi blow up?
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[2:19] <Rubafix> Nah it will take what it needs
[2:20] <Rubafix> what is damaging is overvoltage
[2:20] <linuxmint> Rubafix: ok, thanks :)
[2:20] <pksato> linuxmint: need 5V at any 'amperage' great that 1.8A
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[2:31] <Rubafix> man I doubt you could have damaged your pi with the berry boot
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[2:34] <ThePendulum> Hey. I'm looking into controlling an individually addressable LED strip with my Pi, but I can barely find strips with the CI clock pin mentioned in most instructions. Is this pin absolutely crucial?
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[2:35] <ThePendulum> If so, what do I search for?
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[2:39] <ThePendulum> I finally found one that has all 4 pins, is waterproof, and affordable. I just wonder why they're so rare if they clock pin is so important
[2:39] <SpeedEvil> Some don't use clock
[2:39] <SpeedEvil> ws2812 have no clock
[2:42] <ThePendulum> Oh, and there's software for the pi for those drivers?
[2:43] <ThePendulum> That does explain why the few clock pin strips I did find suddenly disappeared when I searched for the ws2812b
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[2:47] <ThePendulum> SpeedEvil: thanks, searching for ws2801 was the key
[2:48] <ThePendulum> Now I'm not sure what's better supported qua pi software
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[2:48] <SpeedEvil> well,afk
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[2:58] <ThePendulum> Seems like the WS2801 should be it, as the WS2812B is apparently prone to timing issues with the Pi
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[3:47] <FlyingPersian> anyone familiar with LIRC? trying to start irrecord, but it gives me this error:
[3:47] <FlyingPersian> irrecord: could not get file information for /dev/lirc
[3:47] <FlyingPersian> irrecord: default_init(): No such file or directory
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[3:48] <FlyingPersian> checked the hardware.conf and it seems to be fine. the device is /dev/lirc0, which is loaded
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[4:00] <undecim> Hi! Is it possible to replace the colorful "debug" screen that first appears when booting?
[4:03] <clever> nope
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[4:04] <undecim> :(
[4:05] <undecim> You're sure it's not coded into bootcode.bin or something?
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[4:08] <shauno> I believe it is in bootcode.bin, but I don't think it's an image you can just swap out. it's doing a test routine and the resulting mess just happens to be the results
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[4:09] <Stanto> FlyingPersian: sounds like a permission issue, lack of it
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[4:14] <FlyingPersian> lirc is so weird Stanto
[4:14] <FlyingPersian> I managed to find a work around for the problem I mentioned above
[4:15] <Stanto> Oh?
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[4:44] <ali1234> i assume that the colour boot screen is a 2x2 image stretched by the compositor
[4:45] <ali1234> i don't think it's accidental, the compositor just needs to show something and a 2x2 image is going to use the least space in the rom
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[6:09] <FlyingPersian> does anyone know a RPI OS that has a good spotify addon/program/whatever?
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[6:30] <MotoMac> ayeee ooo
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[8:52] <raging_fenrir> If a Raspberry Pi 2 freezes in boot everytime with both Raspbian and ArchARM, and two different SD-cards, is it then almost safe to say that it is the Raspberry Pi that is broken?
[8:54] <ShorTie> 'freezes' ?? as in how, reboots ??
[8:54] <raging_fenrir> No, just stops
[8:54] <raging_fenrir> No error message at the end
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[8:55] <ShorTie> and you have a screen hooked up ??
[8:55] <raging_fenrir> Yes
[8:55] <raging_fenrir> So I see the boot messages scrolling
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[8:56] <ShorTie> has it ever worked properly ??
[8:57] <raging_fenrir> Yes, but only for a few days
[8:57] <raging_fenrir> It only took a couple of reboots
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[8:59] <raging_fenrir> And since I've tried different SD-cards and different images, I have a feeling that it may be the Raspberry itself
[9:00] <ShorTie> and these are current images ??
[9:00] <raging_fenrir> Yes
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[9:00] <slicepaperwords> woohoo got my pi2 in the mail today
[9:00] <raging_fenrir> Nice slicepaperwords!
[9:00] <ShorTie> what class are your sdcard's ??
[9:00] <slicepaperwords> i am also excited
[9:01] <raging_fenrir> I think both are 10
[9:01] <slicepaperwords> mine?
[9:01] <raging_fenrir> But I have run them both on raspberry pi's before
[9:02] <raging_fenrir> slicepaperwords: What are you going to do with it?
[9:02] <slicepaperwords> raging_fenrir, I want to use it as a media center medium for my tv
[9:02] <slicepaperwords> I've heard they can handle 1080 over ethernet
[9:05] <raging_fenrir> slicepaperwords: Cool, I've just connected it directly to the TV, but I live on only 11m^2, so everything reaches everything
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[9:06] <slicepaperwords> yeah I wanted to go server to router to pi to tv
[9:07] <slicepaperwords> whats 11m^2? sorry
[9:07] <ShorTie> does the power light blink at all ??
[9:07] <raging_fenrir> ShorTie: Yes, and I get picture, as in boot messages scrolling
[9:07] <raging_fenrir> slicepaperwords: Hehe, 11 square meteres
[9:08] <slicepaperwords> okay I had a feeling then I was like no thats too obvious it cant be that haha
[9:08] <ShorTie> whelp, the power light should not blink at all, if it does you have power problems
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[9:08] <raging_fenrir> ShorTie: It usually stops after [OK] Mounting something something, but not always
[9:09] <raging_fenrir> ShorTie: Ah, thought you meant something else, no the red light stays on :)
[9:09] <ShorTie> does your micro-usb power cable have any writing on it ??
[9:10] <ShorTie> or is it thin and flexible ??
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[9:10] <ShorTie> what size is your power supply ??
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[9:12] <slicepaperwords> http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Preloaded-Heatsink/dp/B00MV6TAJI
[9:12] <raging_fenrir> ShorTie: It looks like a regular charger, I think it is about 2 amp, but I don't have it here. And I have had Raspberrys running for weeks on the same kind of power supply, so I don't think that is the problem
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[9:13] <ShorTie> psst, you don't need no heat sink on a pi
[9:13] <raging_fenrir> Hehe, agreed
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[9:13] <slicepaperwords> yeah thats what I heard after I ordered it haha
[9:13] <slicepaperwords> oh well though
[9:13] <ShorTie> you got a multi-meter ??
[9:14] <slicepaperwords> it was only 70 bucks
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[9:14] <raging_fenrir> ShorTie: Indeed I do
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[9:15] <ShorTie> with it on, can you check the voltage on the gpio port's 5vdc pin ??
[9:16] <ShorTie> or try a micro-usb cable that has 24awg printed on it maybe
[9:17] <raging_fenrir> ShorTie: I'll do that when I get home, thanks :)
[9:18] <ShorTie> if you got a windows box, maybe try formating the sdcard with SDFormatter
[9:18] <slicepaperwords> does the pi2 have gb ethernet? or 100mb?
[9:19] <ShorTie> don't forget to use the option to adjust the size
[9:19] <raging_fenrir> I only use fdisk and mkfs
[9:19] <raging_fenrir> I think it is only 100mb
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[9:19] <raging_fenrir> 100/10
[9:19] <ShorTie> it's got a usb driven nic, so it gets swamped easily
[9:19] <slicepaperwords> thanks raging_fenrir
[9:21] <raging_fenrir> slicepaperwords: But I only got around 8 MB/s when transferring, probably my fault though
[9:22] <ShorTie> na, pi not known for net trafficing, it got to many slow things in it's pathway
[9:22] <raging_fenrir> ShorTie: Would using the /dev/zero and dd work?
[9:22] <raging_fenrir> Or forget it, it wouldn't :P
[9:23] <ShorTie> i twas thinking it has a bad spot checking in it that dd can't do
[9:23] <slicepaperwords> will it be able to stream 1080 movies from my server in my house? hard-wired
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[9:24] <ShorTie> but i'd l00k more towards the micro-usb power cable, make sure it is of good quality and not some tinsle coated plastic wire phone charging cord
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[9:26] <ShorTie> i wouldn't bank on it streaming 1080p movie's very well really, might need to cut it back to 720
[9:27] <ShorTie> the usb nic gets swamp easily
[9:27] <slicepaperwords> yeah?
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[9:27] <slicepaperwords> damn that sucks
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[9:29] <raging_fenrir> Just duct tape it to the back of your TV ;)
[9:36] <slicepaperwords> well I was going to do that, I was just wondering if it would handle all the video I had for it, my buddy has one that skipped on wifi but I could not convince him to hardwire it
[9:37] <ShorTie> it's been known to skip when hard wired too...
[9:38] <slicepaperwords> oh well ill just use it for 720 and below and buy another one and code on it haha
[9:38] <raging_fenrir> Hehe, that's the spirit
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[9:53] <kanzie> anyone know why kodi 15 is not in the repos?
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[10:39] <alkisg> Hi, has anyone used the new Ubuntu 4.2-raspi2 kernel? I'm getting screen corruption with it...
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[10:43] <alkisg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-raspi2
[10:44] <Hercules> ordered it http://i.imgur.com/yW8Zrk4.png
[10:44] <Hercules> :)
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[11:03] <freezevee> guys, is there any way that you can see the RPI connected with USB as a network device ? Like a BBB If you've ever worked with one ?
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[11:04] <freezevee> what do I mean? connect the RPI only with USB and then access it by ssh like a network device
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[11:05] <tjcarter> freezevee: The Pi A+ is the only one whose USB can be an uplink port
[11:05] <freezevee> in the BBB it was something like a ftdi driver ?
[11:05] <tjcarter> and I think a kernel bug kept it from behaving.
[11:06] <tjcarter> I don't have a BBB so I dunno
[11:07] <freezevee> is there any other way I could connect to a RPI by only USB port ?
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[11:07] <tjcarter> you could use a USB-serial dingus on the Pi, or a USB-LvTTL cable on the GPIO pins
[11:07] <tjcarter> then you could run ppp over the serial link
[11:07] <tjcarter> it'd work
[11:07] <nid0> which end do you need to be usb, the pi or the thing you're connecting it to?
[11:08] <freezevee> the pi
[11:08] <nid0> because another option would be a usb ethernet dongle, connected at whichever end has to be usb
[11:08] <freezevee> it's OSX <-> RPI, I want something like ssh over usb
[11:09] <tjcarter> why do you need ssh over USB and not just serial over USB?
[11:09] <freezevee> many reasons
[11:09] <freezevee> it's very helpful that way
[11:09] <freezevee> I want to also setup a samba server so by connecting it to usb I could have access like a hard drive
[11:09] <nid0> what also is the reason for not just using ethernet?
[11:09] <freezevee> one cable only
[11:10] <nid0> ?
[11:10] <freezevee> and less setup
[11:10] <tjcarter> There's also USB-USB laplink-type cables
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[11:10] <freezevee> I don't want additional hardware
[11:10] <tjcarter> These are effectively USB-ethernet bridges connected to each other via virtual crossover
[11:10] <freezevee> you might say "it's only a cable" but yes, I am trying to do this with what I have
[11:10] <nid0> I don't follow that, how does using a usb cable involve less cables than using an ethernet cable
[11:11] <freezevee> because RPI gets power from the usb
[11:11] <nid0> and whatever usb solution you could possibly conjure up is always going to be more complicated than just using ethernet
[11:11] <nid0> because ethernet is literally the simplest thing in the universe
[11:11] <freezevee> it would be very awesome to just connect it with usb and access files/ssh
[11:11] <tjcarter> You can power the Pi off a LvTTL cable if you can get both 3v3 and 5v out of it.
[11:11] <freezevee> I could easily pull out an ethernet cable but then I'll need to have usb & ethernet cables with me
[11:12] <freezevee> tjcarter: what is this ?
[11:12] <freezevee> LvTTL ?
[11:12] <nid0> are you using an old pi?
[11:12] <freezevee> RPI 2
[11:12] <tjcarter> The Pi has a serial port on its GPIO header
[11:12] <nid0> you can't back-power a pi via usb afaik.
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[11:12] <nid0> pi 2*
[11:12] <freezevee> I know
[11:12] <tjcarter> but it's 3v3 logic level (low voltage TTL)
[11:12] <nid0> so how're you planning to power it via your usb cable
[11:13] <freezevee> I don't get it
[11:13] <freezevee> I am powering it now by usb
[11:13] <nid0> via the microusb power input?
[11:13] <freezevee> and I have an ethernet cable to the router
[11:13] <freezevee> yes
[11:13] <tjcarter> If you get the right USB-LvTTL serial dingus, it'll provide both 5v and 3v3 power, and use 3v3 RX/TX (which is usually jumper-selectable)
[11:13] <nid0> ok, then how dyou expect to get data to it
[11:13] <freezevee> nid0: why not ?
[11:13] <freezevee> my assumptions are based on the BBB's usage
[11:13] <tjcarter> That can run ppp if you need it to.
[11:14] <nid0> are you imagining a data connection via the microusb power input?
[11:14] <nid0> because its a power input, there are no data lines on it.
[11:14] <nid0> if you want power + either usb or ethernet, you need a 2nd cable, regardless.
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[11:14] <tjcarter> nid0: that's why I suggested the GPIO header since you can power the Pi right off that port.
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[11:15] <nid0> yeah, plenty of ways of doing this if he's happy to use alternate cables/additional hardware, but he's not going to manage it with just cables he's got
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[11:16] <tjcarter> no, because the Pi hasn't got a USB uplink port. Just power.
[11:17] <freezevee> I don't know what an uplink port is
[11:17] <nid0> freezevee: your pi has:
[11:17] <tjcarter> PoE is also an option, but it's going to require an adapter at the Pi end. And maybe at the Mac end too.
[11:17] <freezevee> I suppose you're saying it's only power, without rx/tx ?
[11:17] <freezevee> BBB is using something like that http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/
[11:17] <nid0> a micro usb port. This port is physically only a power connector, there are no data lines to the port.
[11:17] <nid0> normal usb ports. These are data ports, and can't be used to power the device
[11:17] <nid0> an ethernet port. also data only, can't power the device
[11:18] <freezevee> nid0: this makes sense. But why did they do this ?
[11:18] <freezevee> so an ethernet cable is the only solution
[11:18] <freezevee> I mean a minimal one
[11:18] <freezevee> I am intending to make my RPI a personal/mobile web server/disk drive
[11:18] <tjcarter> freezevee: They used Micro-USB for power because high power dumb USB phone chargers are everywhere
[11:19] <nid0> you technically can do a 1-cable solution with ethernet by buying a PoE hat/adaptor for your pi and ensuring that whatever ethernet host you plug it into supports PoE, then your ethernet will support both data and power
[11:19] <Armand> Heck, it's real easy to make your own power supply.
[11:19] <nid0> but its a lot of effort just to remove having to carry round a 2nd cable.
[11:19] <freezevee> nid0: I get it. Thanks
[11:19] <Armand> 12v battery + variable regulator. :)
[11:20] <tjcarter> freezevee: They didn't include a micro-USB uplink port for cost reasons. The SoC technically has one and it could be used on the A+ that way, but on the B+/2 it's tied to USB hub which precludes its use as an uplink
[11:20] <freezevee> do you believe a custom PoE is possible ?
[11:20] <freezevee> a DIY kind of
[11:20] <yarekt> No consumer devices do poe, But you can make your own
[11:20] <freezevee> I am afraid it will fry the ethernet port of the Pi
[11:20] <nid0> PoE is easy, there are loads of adaptors around to split the poe out to ethernet and microusb, or you can buy hats that output the poe power directly to the gpio
[11:20] <tjcarter> heh heh heh, you wanna see rats nest of cables involving a Pi?
[11:20] <tjcarter> muahahahaha
[11:21] <tjcarter> My Pi typically has an Apple IIgs hanging off of it. :D
[11:21] <tjcarter> With AppleTalk interface.
[11:22] <nid0> if you want to make a poe adaptor yourself, there's an instructable at http://www.instructables.com/id/PiPoE-powering-a-Raspberry-Pi-over-Ethernet/
[11:22] <Armand> My Pi only ever has two cables, power + LAN. :)
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[11:22] <tjcarter> The Pi itself has a keyboard, mouse, video, USB hub, card reader, USB-serial device, ethernet, speakers, and HDMI cable.
[11:23] <pksato> some DIY and (one or two) usb ethernet adapter, can make RPi a usb ethernet device. powered from host (need to use two or more ports to power).
[11:24] <tjcarter> The IIgs has two serial cables (one going to the AppleTalk interface), power, video, keyboard/mouse, "VGA", and a floppy drive chain. Soon to also have Ethernet.
[11:24] <tjcarter> And the AppleTalk interface has serial and ethernet and power.
[11:25] <tjcarter> There's also an ethernet hub for this whole setup, and the "VGA" goes to an upscaler board, and ... yeah.
[11:25] <tjcarter> I'd LOVE to minimize this set of cables a bit but it's going to take more doing. :)
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[11:29] <tjcarter> Sadly the Ethernet cable cannot take the place of those serial ports on the IIgs. ssh isn't going to happen on a 16 bit CPU with an 8 bit data bus, and the OS doesn't yet support AFP over TCP (nor even DDP, which the card couldn't do anyway.)
[11:30] <tjcarter> I could reduce the complexity somewhat by putting the Pi in the IIgs, but not much unless I could also somehow fit an ethernet hub in there.
[11:35] <freezevee> nid0: nice DIY project
[11:35] <freezevee> but it quickly becomes complicated
[11:35] <freezevee> I like things to be simpler as possible
[11:36] <freezevee> it's too easy to throw 2 extra devices and 5 cables to do something you want
[11:36] <freezevee> but this isn't a serious implementation for me
[11:36] <freezevee> I got a bit OCD too so these things are living inside my mind
[11:36] <freezevee> the less, the better
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[12:03] <skoude> Hi! proxmox won't allow me to remove hard-drive fom vm.. It says that: cannot remove drive 'virtio+' - protection mode enabled (500).. aNy ideA?
[12:03] <skoude> sorry wrong channel :)
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[12:11] <nid0> skoude: i'd guess you have protection mode enabled on the vm.
[12:12] <nid0> its an option that prevents the vm or disks attached to it from being deleted
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[14:16] <[SLB]> my boot partition on the sd got corrupted and i lost everything. could someone provide a zip file somewhere with a working content for /boot please? :\
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[14:23] <ThePendulum> I'm trying to figure out what Pi I have. What's the quickest identifier?
[14:23] <ThePendulum> I bought model B at the time but since a lot more model Bs have been released, I lost track :P
[14:23] <JK-47> look at the model printed on it
[14:23] <ThePendulum> I'm trying to find it
[14:23] <ThePendulum> It says Raspberry Pi around the logo, not sure where to look for the specific model
[14:24] <ali1234> what type size of SD card does it use?
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[14:25] <ThePendulum> eh, regular, not sure about the exact specifications it accepts
[14:25] <shauno> I Think mounting holes is easiest. no holes is first-rev, 2 holes is second rev, four holes is b+ (unless it has a big black chip on the bottom side, then it's a b2)
[14:25] <ThePendulum> the SD card I put in is a 32GB SDHC class 10
[14:25] <ThePendulum> afaik it's not utilizing the full bandwidth
[14:25] <[SLB]> i think he means micro or not
[14:25] <ThePendulum> no, regular format
[14:26] <IT_Sean> Then it's not a Pi2.
[14:26] <IT_Sean> they switched to a micro w/ the 2
[14:26] <IT_Sean> How many mounting holes and USB ports has it got?
[14:26] <JK-47> b+ is micro too. you have a normal b
[14:27] <ThePendulum> I'm positive it's not a 2 since I bought it before that one was released
[14:27] <ThePendulum> JK-47: ah, thanks
[14:27] <IT_Sean> JK-47: Ah, I stand corrected.
[14:27] <ThePendulum> IT_Sean: 2 USB ports and a mUSB for power
[14:27] <IT_Sean> ThePendulum: It's a normal B.
[14:27] <ThePendulum> Thought so, thanks
[14:27] <ThePendulum> http://raspi.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Raspberry-Pi-GPIO-pinouts.png
[14:27] <ThePendulum> so the first one here, Pi B Rev 1?
[14:28] <IT_Sean> Yes.
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[14:28] <ThePendulum> although, what's the difference between the Rev 1 B and the Rev 2 A/B pinout
[14:28] <ThePendulum> nvm, found it
[14:28] <ThePendulum> lil' schematic where's waldo
[14:28] <[SLB]> how can i get a working /boot partition? maybe i can run rpiupdate to point to a different path or is there a better way? someone's image with all the working config files would make me feel better if possible
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[14:31] <ThePendulum> hmm so I'm going to need GPIO10 and GPIO11 for MOSI and SCLK respectively, DI and CI on the strip
[14:32] <ali1234> the original IO layout is a bit rubbish
[14:32] <JK-47> [SLB]: backup your non /boot stuff (in linux if you have it available). reimage the card, copy it back.
[14:32] <ThePendulum> this is read with the IO in the top right corner right
[14:32] <ThePendulum> of the Pi
[14:33] <ThePendulum> ah, P1 is indicated anyway
[14:33] <ali1234> it depends which way you are holding the pi?
[14:33] <[SLB]> non boot is on a usb stick already, reimage?
[14:33] <ThePendulum> ali1234: well yes, if I keep the Pi upside down I need to hold the GPIO schematic upside down as well :P
[14:33] <[SLB]> dding the raspbian iso?
[14:33] <JK-47> yeah. and youll have to update your fstab after to mount the usb
[14:33] <ThePendulum> right way up is with the GPIO in the top right corner of the Pi
[14:34] <ali1234> nah
[14:34] <ali1234> right way up is with the gio in the top left corner
[14:35] <ThePendulum> according to the most common representation of the GPIO pinout I mean :p http://raspi.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Raspberry-Pi-GPIO-pinouts.png
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[14:35] <ThePendulum> top left corner and the pinouts are horizontal
[14:35] <ThePendulum> does match the logo though :p
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[14:38] <ThePendulum> I wish my Pi case had a pinout slit, it doesn't
[14:38] <ThePendulum> guess I need to grab a saw
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[14:39] <ThePendulum> Is there any reason I couldn't power the Raspberry Pi through mUSB and the LED strip with a separate 5V power supply?
[14:39] <ThePendulum> https://learn.adafruit.com/light-painting-with-raspberry-pi/hardware
[14:39] <ThePendulum> Says here to hook them both up to the same power supply because the Pi couldn't support the LED strip
[14:39] <ThePendulum> But if I don't hook the LED strip up to the GPIO power out, does that matter?
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[14:41] <JK-47> honestly best to use a relay and just use the pi to control the relay, and all power for other devices is on its own circuit.
[14:42] <JK-47> pi has a mAh power limit itll push safely through gpio.
[14:42] <ali1234> and then how are you going to drive the relay?
[14:42] <JK-47> thats how i tend to handle led and christmas lights
[14:43] <ThePendulum> What's the problem with only using the MOSI and SCLK GPIO connectors?
[14:43] <ThePendulum> Thus keeping the power supplies seperated entirely
[14:43] <ThePendulum> *a
[14:43] <ali1234> you need ground to complete the circuit?
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[14:44] <JK-47> ThePendulum: you simply want on/off? or need to drive a pwm?
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[14:44] <ThePendulum> I need to drive the SPI input of the strip
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> ThePendulum, in addition to Gnd/0v you need some sort of chip slect to tell the SPI device to start sending.
[14:44] <JK-47> ahhh ok
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> ThePendulum, oh - led strip. what's the LED controller chip?
[14:45] <ali1234> gordonDrogon: not on these strips you don't. SPI is being used as a shift register
[14:45] <ThePendulum> WS2801
[14:45] <ThePendulum> http://www.ebay.com/itm/221914106198?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&var=520806540038&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[14:45] <ThePendulum> this is the exact strip
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[14:45] <ThePendulum> 5M/160LEDs, waterproof, black PCB, shouldn't matter too much that
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> right. the ws2801 is easy to drive in that way then
[14:46] <ThePendulum> right, so the DI/CI input need to ground with the Pi none the least
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[14:46] <gordonDrogon> you nee 3 wires to the pi - clock, data and 0v.
[14:47] <ali1234> there's a diagram on the page
[14:47] <ThePendulum> https://learn.adafruit.com/light-painting-with-raspberry-pi/hardware
[14:47] <ali1234> https://learn.adafruit.com/system/assets/assets/000/001/589/medium800/raspberry_pi_diagram.png
[14:47] <gordonDrogon> you can use the SPI hardware, but it will also wiggle one of the CE lines at the same time if you use the kernel driver.
[14:47] <ThePendulum> this setup should be possible with the PSU I got still
[14:47] <ali1234> but in my opinion this diagram is wrong
[14:47] <ThePendulum> right
[14:48] <ThePendulum> ali1234: what would you suggest?
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> I probably would not use the Pi to power the strip.
[14:48] <ali1234> don't connect the 5V from PSU to the pi
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> get a separate 5v PSU.
[14:48] <ThePendulum> I have a seperate PSU
[14:48] <ozzzy> I wouldn't connect 5V directly to the pin
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> ok, so 0v from the psu to the strip to the Pi and 5v from the Psu to the strip. Separate 5v psu for the pi.
[14:49] <ThePendulum> I could run the Pi off the USB then?
[14:49] <ali1234> right, that's what i'd do
[14:49] <gordonDrogon> using the �USB yes, using the usb ports no - unless it's a v1 Pi.
[14:49] <ThePendulum> eh
[14:49] <ozzzy> I find where the power goes from the USB plug and 'tap in' before the polyfuse/diode etc
[14:49] <ThePendulum> gordonDrogon: the v1 could be powered from the A ports?
[14:49] <ThePendulum> I meant the mUSB
[14:50] <gordonDrogon> ThePendulum, the Rev 1.1 can, yes.
[14:50] <ali1234> the A+ can
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[14:50] <ThePendulum> right
[14:50] <ThePendulum> well no need to bother with that
[14:50] <gordonDrogon> the b+ and v2 has current limiters on the USB ports which prevents reverse powering.
[14:50] <gordonDrogon> although there's a quirk that will let you power via them if the Pi is already powered up via the �USB.
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[14:51] <ThePendulum> well no need to make this more difficult
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[14:53] <ThePendulum> right, so the mUSB to the Pi as normally, then the 5V from the PSU to the LED strip, then the ground from the strip to both the Pi and the PSU?
[14:53] <ThePendulum> Why does the strip need to be grounded with the Pi?
[14:53] <ThePendulum> for the DI/CI?
[14:53] <ali1234> because you need a circuit for current to flow
[14:53] <gordonDrogon> ^ that.
[14:54] <ThePendulum> doesn't the grounding with the PSU mess that up?
[14:54] <ali1234> no, not at all
[14:54] <ThePendulum> right
[14:54] <gordonDrogon> you're confusing incoming mains grounding with logic 0v.
[14:54] <gordonDrogon> they are normally isolated, so you need to connect all the 0v together.
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[14:56] <ThePendulum> I could just twist the wire to the Pi's ground together with the ground coming from the strip, and stick that in the PSU ground, right?
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[14:57] <gordonDrogon> make sure it's the PSUs 0v wire you connect to - not the incoming ground from the mains side.
[14:57] <ThePendulum> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gLMAAOSwqu9VENvL/s-l1600.jpg
[14:58] <ThePendulum> this is what the PSUs look like
[14:58] <ThePendulum> I would've guessed -V rather than the -||) ground
[14:58] <ali1234> i hope it doesnt have "24V 10A" on the side like that one
[14:58] <ThePendulum> ali1234: 5V 10A for mine
[14:58] <ThePendulum> but the pic for mine is from the back that just shows the sticker
[14:58] <ali1234> be careful with that
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[14:58] <gordonDrogon> 24v PSU. fry fry fry.
[14:58] <ali1234> 50W can hurt you pretty bad
[14:58] <ThePendulum> I'm trying to figure out how to connect these to the main
[14:59] <ThePendulum> I just realized they literally have the same connectors for the 220V in, lol
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> mains next to the low-voltage - on the same strip.
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[14:59] <gordonDrogon> not sure that's allowed here.
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[14:59] <ali1234> these PSUs are not supposed to be end user devices
[14:59] <ali1234> they're modules to go inside sealed units
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> ali1234, watts don't hurt, it's milliamps.
[14:59] <ThePendulum> ali1234: yeah I should've checked twice
[15:00] <ThePendulum> ali1234: thought they had an 8 plug, not sure where I got that idea
[15:00] <ThePendulum> eh, I guess this is money thrown away then
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[15:01] <gordonDrogon> well - if it's got a 5v outlet then that's OK - just check, double and triple check you have the connections right before you turn it on...
[15:01] <ali1234> you could run a lot of LED strips off that thing
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[15:05] <ThePendulum> yeah
[15:05] <ThePendulum> just called in dad on the matter
[15:05] <ThePendulum> "why would that be a problem? :')"
[15:05] <ThePendulum> ali1234: I wasn't sure if I was going to run the Pi off it as well
[15:05] <yarekt> Parent of the year award
[15:05] <ThePendulum> and the price difference between a 6A and a 10A was minimal
[15:05] <ThePendulum> yarekt: tbf he does this for a living, builds guitar amps as a hobby
[15:05] <ThePendulum> has been for 35 years now, he has a rough idea of what he's doing
[15:06] <ali1234> how do i make i2c_gpio work on the pi?
[15:06] <yarekt> Should at least pass a sense of caution and respect for lethal voltages to their kids
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[15:07] <ThePendulum> is there such a thing as a lethal voltage?
[15:07] <ali1234> i had to fix my dad's TV the other day
[15:07] <ali1234> he stomped around too much and made the power cable fall out
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[15:08] <ThePendulum> yarekt: I'm not sure what the risk would be really though, it's completely shielded
[15:08] <ali1234> except for the bare mains connector
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[15:08] <ali1234> and the 5V 10A output
[15:09] <IT_Sean> meh... my concern would be with the mains connector.
[15:09] <yarekt> If the low voltage output is exposed to people, then short happens between high voltage parts to low voltage outputs
[15:09] <ThePendulum> that connector would not be bare once it's wired p
[15:09] <IT_Sean> DC is FAAAAR less dangerous than AC
[15:09] <ThePendulum> up*
[15:09] <ali1234> if you're wearing a ring and you short 5V 10A thru it, it will be unpleasant
[15:09] <yarekt> High voltage terminal i mean, a loose screw inside your case
[15:10] <yarekt> ali1234: Ring becomes a nice 50W soldering iron
[15:10] <ali1234> precisely
[15:10] <IT_Sean> ali1234: Yeah, it would be unplesant. It would not, however, kill you. You might deglove a finger. (and truct me, you do NOT want to google 'degloving injury')
[15:10] <ThePendulum> yarekt: isn't that the case with practically any PSU?
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[15:10] <ThePendulum> I could stick a wire in my PC's PSU and cause some carnage
[15:10] <ali1234> most 5V PSUs cannot supply anywhere near 10A
[15:11] <yarekt> ThePendulum: Not every PSU has HV inputs on the same strip as the low volateg outputs
[15:11] <ThePendulum> I do agree it's not an ideal setup
[15:11] <ali1234> anyway just be careful yeah?
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[15:12] <ThePendulum> ali1234: I'll ask dad to keep an eye on it :P
[15:12] <yarekt> ThePendulum: All I mean is don't be apprehensive of the setup. I regularly power on equipment and poke insides with probes :)
[15:13] <ThePendulum> I guess the main concern is if I mess up the live and neutral on the power cable to the PSU
[15:14] <ThePendulum> hmmm
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[15:14] <ThePendulum> our plugs don't have a ground
[15:14] <ThePendulum> fantastic, metal casing, should be fun
[15:14] <yarekt> ThePendulum: I hear you. In Ukraine we had a drill that if you reverse the plug the phase goes onto its metal case
[15:15] <ThePendulum> I guess I should not be using this with anything but recent earthed sockets
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[15:15] <ThePendulum> I wonder who forged those Q PASS stickers
[15:16] <ThePendulum> I doubt these went through any quality control
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[15:19] <shauno> not really much to forge, you just buy them. $1.60 for 100 https://www.fasttech.com/products/1099/10000458/1048700
[15:19] <ThePendulum> haha
[15:21] <ThePendulum> meh, now I can wait 3-5 weeks before everything arrives
[15:21] <ThePendulum> and I ordered the PSU to the wrong house :')
[15:22] <ThePendulum> I contacted the owner and they were worried I accidentally ordered drugs to their place at first, apparently it being a PSU was a sigh of relief
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[15:23] <yarekt> Isn't opening someone elses mail illegal?
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[15:24] <myself> if it comes to your right address with someone else's name..?
[15:25] <Hercules> Ordered http://i.imgur.com/yW8Zrk4.png :)
[15:25] <ThePendulum> It was shipped but it hasn't arrived yet
[15:25] <ThePendulum> It was shipped to their name and address
[15:25] <yarekt> Ah right
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[15:25] <ThePendulum> I think they'd be legally allowed to open it, not sure if that changes once they are aware it's shipped to the wrong person
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[15:27] <gorroth> i think it's illegal in all cases it isn't marked for you
[15:27] <gorroth> however, i'm pretty sure the courts are pretty lenient with it if it comes to your address
[15:27] <gorroth> ianal
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[15:28] <exilent> hello
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[15:29] <ThePendulum> gorroth: yeah, it was shipped to that person completely though, name and address
[15:29] <ThePendulum> I just wonder if they stop being legally allowed to open it once I can proof it's mine and I shipped it to the wrong address
[15:29] <shauno> you accidentally put the wrong name on it ?
[15:29] <gorroth> if their name is on it, then you can't do anythign about it
[15:29] <exilent> i'm searching for someone that could help me setting up bluetoothtethering with a phone, anyone did that?
[15:30] <gorroth> it's tecchnicalyl their package now
[15:30] <shauno> you may benefit from not being in the US lol, but under the US system, it'd be illegal for you to open that. you've bought them a present, and now you're depending on their good faith :)
[15:30] <gorroth> and besides, if something gets shipped to their address mistakenly, i don't think they have any obligation to get it back to you
[15:30] <nuxil> hello.. where do i find info about the geo pins. such as what kind of impedance the pins require/like to operate at. max current load on the pins. etc.
[15:31] <gorroth> i mean, as a home owner, if i don't feel like it, i'm not shipping anything. not like i'm paying money for it
[15:32] <gorroth> i'd just say "thank you for the gift"
[15:32] <gorroth> if it ended up being marijuana, i'd be really happy
[15:32] <ThePendulum> it would not be in their best interest to screw me over with that package :p
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[15:32] <ThePendulum> but yeah, I had them in my eBay address book and they were set as default without me noticing it
[15:33] <gorroth> why would it be in their best interest? it would be in your best interest not to screw with them
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[15:33] <gorroth> they have more right to it than you do
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[15:34] <shauno> it's one of those things that'll work out better if you just concentrate on being nice people, instead of who's entitled to what
[15:35] <yarekt> shauno: +1
[15:35] <gorroth> that's true, but if you want to get technical about it, possession is 9/10 of the law, and you need to contact the shipper about it
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[15:36] <gorroth> i mean, i know i'm way too busy to bother with anyone's packages arriving at my door. i'll give it to them if they want to drive out to my place, but i wouldn't put any money into it. if i liked it, i'd keep it
[15:36] <gorroth> unless the supposed owner came for it
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[15:37] <gorroth> unelss i threw it away
[15:37] <exilent> any1 willing to help out with a PAN-problem/tetheringdifficulties?
[15:38] <ThePendulum> gorroth: then they'd have my PSU, but nothing else from me ever again
[15:39] <gorroth> if you're talking about a stranger, i'm not sure why they'd really care about that
[15:39] <gorroth> i thought you were talking about random people
[15:39] <exilent> or does anyone know how to get pand to work? (pand:command not found at the moment, could not find someone with the same problem yet, may be because im stupid)
[15:39] <ThePendulum> they're not a complete stranger, they're in my eBay contact list
[15:39] <nid0> he isnt likely to have a random person's name & address setup as a recipient in his ebay list
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[15:40] <gorroth> ThePendulum: then they'd probably tell you that you can come pick it up. they probably have ore claim to sue you for discrimination for something you did wrongly if you decide not to sell to them on that cause
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[15:40] <gorroth> it's really all your fault, not theirs
[15:40] <gorroth> and if they don't want to spend the money or time to get it back to you, that's your problem, not theirs
[15:40] <gorroth> that's all i'm saying
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[15:41] <ThePendulum> I'll be picking it up from their place
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[15:41] <ThePendulum> lol this is not the US, why would they sue me?
[15:41] <ThePendulum> over a 10usd PSU
[15:41] <gorroth> well, then that's good :) they should accept to do that
[15:41] <gorroth> they wouldn't sue you over the PSU
[15:41] <gorroth> i think you misread
[15:42] <gorroth> but the UK has lawsuits alllllllllllll the time :)
[15:42] <ThePendulum> oh I missed the 2nd line
[15:42] <gorroth> :)
[15:42] <gorroth> anyway, if someone shipped to my place but offered to come pick it up, i'd let them do it. i may check the package for drugs though, tbh
[15:43] <gorroth> since i don't want to be a mule for them
[15:43] <ThePendulum> if they found any, they'd probably tell me it never arrived
[15:43] <ThePendulum> and proceed to throw a party
[15:43] <gorroth> i'd probably tell the person i gave it to the police
[15:43] <gorroth> so they don't try again
[15:43] <gorroth> since i actually would give it to the police, unless it was marijuana
[15:44] <gorroth> then i would smoke it
[15:44] <gorroth> lol
[15:44] <ThePendulum> as I said, ways to make sure you don't get delivered to again ;P
[15:44] <gorroth> if you sent them heroin, for example, i don't think they'd feel like buying from you again :)
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[15:45] <ThePendulum> I wouldn't be surprised if this particular individual would proceed to ask for more
[15:46] <shauno> hopefully not. I've smoked several PSUs. it's overrated.
[15:47] <ThePendulum> lol
[15:47] <ThePendulum> I smoked 3 PSUs and now I'm blind
[15:47] <ThePendulum> It wasn't until I started snorting LED strips that I finally saw the light
[15:48] <shauno> more like "I smoked 3 PSUs, and now I turn on any wallwart from china from as far away as I can"
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[15:48] <shauno> ever since I had one where the socket was already switched on, and it popped in my hand. no ill effects, but scared the bejeesus out of me
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[15:49] <ThePendulum> I don't think the one I ordered even has a switch
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[15:49] <shauno> ah our sockets are switched here. we use the same standards as the UK, which are all kinds of funky
[15:49] <TheLostAdmin> wow, I'm starting to feel like an electrical expert here. I've never smoked a PSU. At least not yet.
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[15:50] <ThePendulum> shauno: oh, the wall socket was switched on?
[15:50] <ThePendulum> sorry, misunderstood the situation
[15:51] <ThePendulum> never saw a switched socked
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[15:51] <IT_Sean> TheLostAdmin: You shouldn't smoke a PSU. It won't get you high, and the fumes are really bad for you.
[15:51] <TheLostAdmin> I've seen 2 in my life.
[15:51] <TheLostAdmin> IT_Sean, good to know.
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[15:52] <shauno> switched sockets are really, really common in the UK & Ireland. and I do tend to use the switch whenever I'm turning on "random internet junk" for the first time
[15:53] <ThePendulum> we have those socket... extenders with a switch if you will
[15:53] <ThePendulum> if you have a device that doesn't have a switch of its own, you put those inbetween
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[15:53] <ThePendulum> but all sockets are live at all times, at least in this house
[15:53] <ThePendulum> any wall switches control a lightbulb or so directly, not the socket
[15:54] <shauno> I mean like this; http://unmakingthings.rca.ac.uk/2015/files/2015/02/Uk_13a_double_socket.jpg
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[15:55] <ThePendulum> Yeah, unheard of over here
[15:55] <ThePendulum> I mean I wouldn't say they don't exist, but you won't find them in most households
[15:56] <shauno> yeah. our outlets+plugs are notoriously over-engineered. I suspect it was to compensate for ring-wiring's weirdness
[15:56] <ThePendulum> http://img.fasttechcdn.com/118/1189900/1189900-5.jpg
[15:56] <ThePendulum> I use those if I need a socket switched
[15:56] <ThePendulum> but with the EU socket, can't find a pic, not too important
[15:57] <ThePendulum> the EU ones look a lot safer than those :P
[15:58] <myself> Ahh, my house has switched sockets in about half the rooms, I'm in the US and my house was built in the 1960s.
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[15:59] <nid0> my house has a total of 1 socket that isn't switched, and its for my shaver
[15:59] <myself> In the bedrooms and kitchen, the lightswitch by the door controls an overhead light in the ceiling. Everywhere else, it controls a socket presumably intended for a floor-standing lamp.
[15:59] <ThePendulum> ah, seriously never saw them here
[15:59] <myself> oh wow
[15:59] <ThePendulum> I mean we have sockets with switches in the same unit, but they basically never switch the socket itself
[16:00] <myself> Nah, typically here the switch is right by the door, and the socket it controls is halfway around the room on another wall.
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[16:00] <ThePendulum> if you walk into my room and see http://imgur.com/YLz0VI5
[16:00] <ThePendulum> and are trying to switch off the extension cord plugged in there
[16:00] <ThePendulum> you'll be disappointed, you'll just toggle off and on my main light
[16:01] <myself> neat
[16:01] <nid0> wierd
[16:01] <ThePendulum> (yes, I have not redecorated my room since I was 8)
[16:02] <shauno> hah, no worries, space is still cool :)
[16:02] <shauno> but that switch would confuse me, yes
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[16:03] <ThePendulum> I'd probably accidentally power down half the room trying to switch on the light if I were in the UK or US then
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[16:04] <ThePendulum> if that switch did what it would do in the UK, you'd power down our house's entire LAN, lol
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[16:04] <ThePendulum> and indeed my lava lamp
[16:04] <nid0> how? in the uk you walk in the room and there's exactly 1 switch on the wall by the door, and its for the lights
[16:04] <nid0> power sockets are then all down at ankle height with their own switches
[16:05] <Lartza> Why are there switches for power sockets?
[16:05] <nid0> because why wouldn't there be
[16:05] <Lartza> There ain't around here
[16:05] <Lartza> :D
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[16:05] <ThePendulum> because the devices that I want to switch off but can't are in an absolutely minority
[16:05] <IT_Sean> In the US? Most sockets are always live, with the exception of a handful that are controlled by wall switches, intended to be used for floor or table lamps.
[16:06] <Lartza> In Finland
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[16:06] <Lartza> If I want to toggle something I get a power strip with a switch
[16:06] <ThePendulum> I am using only 1 of those switch socket extensions and that's plugged into a power block that wouldn't have switches other than the main switch anyway
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[16:06] <myself> what IT_Sean said. My rooms here have 6 or 7 duplex sockets, and only 0 or 1 of them are switched.
[16:07] <IT_Sean> I was quite jealous of the UK style sockets, with the swithces right on them, when this happened, though: http://i.imgur.com/X3rMrrKl.jpg
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[16:10] <myself> I don't even know what that is.
[16:10] <IT_Sean> Its a USB phone charger that's come apart, leaving the now exposed mains contacts in the socket.
[16:12] <shauno> I have one that keeps doing that. It's one of these jobs where the mains pins are replacable, so you can switch in different eg us/uk/eu sockets on it.
[16:12] <toomin> IT_Sean, same thing happened to me. Samgung?
[16:12] <toomin> *Samsung
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[16:12] <shauno> But it's so incredibly flimsy it usually leaves the adaptor section in the outlet with shiny bits staring back at you
[16:12] <myself> So kill the breaker and pry it out with a screwdriver?
[16:12] <myself> Or grab your insulated screwdriver..
[16:12] <toomin> Use a tweezer.
[16:13] <myself> Or put on gloves..
[16:13] <toomin> Kill mains.
[16:13] <IT_Sean> toomin: No, not samsung. Some whun hung lo chinese crap charger.
[16:13] <toomin> Or unscrew the panel.
[16:13] <toomin> heh
[16:13] <myself> I put these in a lot of my projects: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41eh1aF3IaL._AC_UL160_SR160,160_.jpg
[16:13] <myself> wherever I need to add an outlet, I can usually come up with an excuse to add a switch too :)
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[16:20] <myself> Also I got some of those terrible-cheap plug-in wireless remote switched outlets, planning to do the thing with the RF transmitter where you can control 'em from an arduino, and completely shelved those ideas when I realized how useful they are in their original configuration :)
[16:21] <myself> Just adding a bunch more individually switched outlets per room, basically
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[16:32] <Hercules> Hello, do I need to be connected to internet? I added "vncinstall" in commandline and I am setupping Rpi for first time.
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[16:35] <ThePendulum> For VNC, being connected to the LAN should be enough I imagine
[16:35] <ThePendulum> But in that case you're often also connected to the internet
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[16:35] <devslash> has anyone here set up fail2ban on their pi ?
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[16:36] <treaki> hi
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[16:36] <treaki> i have an old raspi whith raspian
[16:36] <treaki> ive don a dist-ubgrade
[16:36] <treaki> now it isnt starting up anymore
[16:37] <myself> reimage the sd card
[16:37] <treaki> i am now connected to serrial, but there is no login
[16:37] <treaki> also nothing els then kernelmessages
[16:37] <treaki> i would like to recover this raspi
[16:37] <Hercules> ThePendulum> So to install the vnc, I should be online?
[16:37] <myself> reimage the sd card?
[16:38] <treaki> just to reflash the card would be to windowslike
[16:38] <myself> aha, so you ask a question but then reject the answer, which in your IRC contract, equates to forfeiting the question :)
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[16:39] <myself> "I've defined an impossible situation, and will blame others for the fact that I have done so"
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[16:39] <ThePendulum> Hercules: if the necessary tools aren't built in the image, then yes, you'll probably need to be online to fetch them
[16:39] <ThePendulum> Or put them on a flash drive
[16:40] <Hercules> ThePendulum> I have the noobs offline install
[16:40] <methuzla> treaki connected to serial how?
[16:41] <treaki> sry, i am not that familiar with irc...
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[16:42] <Hercules> ThePendulum> So, it must have the package already in it?
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[16:42] <treaki> using my thinkpad and an usb serial thing connected to GPIO 14 and 15
[16:43] <treaki> and using screen as terminalemu
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[16:43] <ThePendulum> Hercules: I imagine so, otherwise you either need to use the ethernet or USB connectivity to get it on there
[16:44] <g105b> Hi guys, I need to get a system that can take 8 digital and 8 analogue inputs simultaneously. Could someone point me in the right direction, or let me know if the Pi isn't the right tool for the job?
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[16:44] <clever> the pi has plenty of digital inputs, but no analog inputs
[16:44] <clever> so you would need an external ADC
[16:44] <methuzla> treaki if you run screen, and then apply power, do you see anything?
[16:45] <Hercules> ThePendulum> The problem is that I am going to do a headless install, I'll be doing vnc server so I can enable ssh by remote desktoping it
[16:45] <ThePendulum> heh, I did it the other way round
[16:45] <treaki> g105b, you could use some io curcit connectet over i2c
[16:45] <ThePendulum> SSH is enabled by default in Raspsbian at least
[16:45] <treaki> g105b, for example an atmega
[16:46] <Hercules> ThePendulum> By mistake downloaded the NOOBS
[16:46] <ThePendulum> Hercules: are you sure that wouldn't be easier? I flashed raspbian to an SD card and I could SSH right into it, install the rest
[16:46] <treaki> myself, i am getting only the kernel boot lines but nothing else
[16:46] <ThePendulum> right
[16:46] <shauno> MCP3008 is a pretty popular option. couple of bucks, 8 10-bit channels, and adafruit have documentation
[16:46] <ThePendulum> Hercules: you can correct that mistake, no? :P
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[16:46] <ThePendulum> I'm not very familiar with the NOOBS installer
[16:46] <Hercules> ThePendulum> Can't, speed is slow. Its india.
[16:46] <ThePendulum> Don't you -need- a monitor for that?
[16:46] <g105b> clever: Would I need an external ADC per analogue input? if so, how many inputs in total could the pi handle?
[16:46] <ThePendulum> I remember trying to figure out how to use the installer, lacking a monitor
[16:47] <ThePendulum> The conclusion was that I'd have to copy the image to the sd card instead
[16:47] <Hercules> ThePendulum> I'm 14 my parents don't buy me a better internet but I managed to get a RPi ordered today :P
[16:47] <clever> g105b: most ADC's have multiple channels
[16:47] <clever> g105b: using an AVR as an ADC would get you 8 i think
[16:47] <treaki> i guess i should disassemble the thing and have a look to the sd card, there where a package that has modified the boot thingy and possible distroyed everything because mine was a self made debbootstrap one
[16:47] <ThePendulum> Hercules: is the internet paid per month at least, or per MB?
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[16:48] <Hercules> ThePendulum> You can avail the both.
[16:48] <treaki> is there a way to boot your raspi through grub?, i guess debian will be better in upgrading grub then this strange raspisfatstuff
[16:48] <nid0> Hercules: just download minibian and use that
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[16:48] <Hercules> But internet is expensive in India.
[16:48] <zleap> hi
[16:48] <Hercules> nid0> I think I'll make noobs work too.
[16:48] <Hercules> Using VNC all will work fine.
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[16:49] <methuzla> treaki what's the last kernel message you see?
[16:49] <shauno> treaki: no, the straight raspifatstuff is there because it's the only option. the gpu boots and looks for specific files in the first filesystem, and the first filesystem has to be one that the firmware understands
[16:49] <Hercules> ThePendulum> In India you'll rarely find any free WiFi around you or a high speed WiFi.
[16:50] <zleap> NedScott: i think we were chatting about Ram on the Pi yesterday, I found this earlier http://www.beagleboard.org/x15 that has 2gb ram
[16:50] <ThePendulum> Hercules: as of now you don't have any OS installed on the SD card?
[16:50] <ThePendulum> if you only have the NOOBS installer afaik you do need to hook up a display
[16:50] <Hercules> ThePendulum> Nope not.
[16:50] <nid0> also, do you have noobs or noobs light?
[16:50] <treaki> what dose have more priority, cmdline.txt or config.txt?
[16:50] <Hercules> nid0> noobs
[16:51] <treaki> lookes like the only file that is older then today is cmdline.txt
[16:51] <Hercules> nid0> Its named as NOOBS_v1_4_0
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[16:53] <methuzla> treaki they are used for different things, but config.txt is read first, cmdline.txt is passed to the kernel when it's loaded
[16:54] <fluffet> anyone here running Jessie on their rpi?
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[16:56] <treaki> methuzla, so kernel parameters can only be set in cmdline.txt and not in config.txt?
[16:56] <Hercules> nid0> Do you know anyway that can help me?
[16:56] <methuzla> treaki correct
[16:57] <nid0> Hercules: well yeah but you're making things overly complicated for no real reason
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[16:57] <methuzla> treaki config.txt is used by the bootloader in the GPU firmware to configure the pi: http://elinux.org/RPiconfig
[16:57] <nid0> NOOBS is designed to be installed with a keyboard and monitor. it is possible to do a headless raspbian install via noobs but if you want a headless system its like 546984x easier to just download and install minibian
[16:57] <Hercules> nid0> Everyone can do easy things but complicated is what give you experience for future.
[16:58] <nid0> well, if what you're after is a learning exercise, go forth and research + give it a shot, you don't need me
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[16:58] <Hercules> nid0> At least can help?
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[16:59] <Hercules> nid0> I have a display and a mouse can it work?
[16:59] <Hercules> They are on USB.
[16:59] <nid0> sure I could, but "I want do so something and reject the sensible way, I want to do the needlessly akward way as a learning experience but demand you tell me how to do it" doesn't get very far
[17:00] <Hercules> Can a display and mouse only work?
[17:00] <methuzla> treaki but there is the 'cmdline' parameter available in config.txt
[17:01] <methuzla> treaki based on the verbage in that link, if it is used, it replaces cmdline.txt
[17:02] <clever> methuzla: the kernel will ignore an unknown options, so just throw some extra junk at the end and check /proc/cmdline after you boot
[17:03] <g105b> Looking at this product (https://www.abelectronics.co.uk/p/56/ADC-Pi-Plus---Raspberry-Pi-Analogue-to-Digital-converter) to obtain 8 analogue inputs on the pi, how many digital inputs will I be left with? I'm not sure how to work it out.
[17:03] <treaki> ok, so it looked like apt (or the packagescript) has created a cmdline in config.txt...
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[17:03] <treaki> normally i know from grub the parameters to be after the kernel not after the initrd
[17:03] <treaki> but here it lookes like that, is that correct?
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[17:04] <clever> treaki: start.elf just doesnt have any of that common sense, lol
[17:04] <methuzla> clever would the ignored options show up in /proc/cmline?
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[17:05] <clever> methuzla: the entire cmdline will show up there
[17:05] <treaki> i now have copyed together following:
[17:05] <treaki> kernel=vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-rpi
[17:05] <treaki> initramfs initrd.img-3.16.0-4-rpi followkernel dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p3 rootfstype=ext4 rootwait
[17:05] <treaki> but it still isnt working
[17:05] <clever> treaki: cmdline doesnt go on initramfs on rpi
[17:05] <Rubafix> Hello
[17:05] <clever> treaki: it has to either go on a cmdline entry or cmdline.txt
[17:06] <Rubafix> How do you manage your rsa key when using multiple devices?
[17:06] <treaki> is it possible to install a grub2 on the rpi, which is started by the gpu and thats than starts the linuxkernel?
[17:07] <clever> treaki: i dont know of any grub2 builds yet, but there is u-boot
[17:07] <treaki> i guess that wpuld be much better than all that hazzle...
[17:07] <treaki> u-boot, so i can boot over lan?
[17:07] <clever> treaki: i have used that before
[17:08] <Rubafix> treaki wouldn't Berry boot manage that?
[17:08] <treaki> i dont know u-boot that much, i have only used it once to flash a router...
[17:08] <clever> treaki: i'm currently booting from lan but without that u-boot mode, the initrd+linux are in the SD card, and only the rootfs is on the lan
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[17:08] <treaki> over nfs?
[17:08] <clever> iSCSI
[17:08] <treaki> however, i should better try to fix that now...
[17:08] <clever> nfs exposes the inode numbers of the host directly
[17:09] <clever> and because i'm using xfs on a 4tb disk, the inode numbers are over 32bits in length
[17:09] <clever> half the software i'm using cant handle that
[17:09] <clever> instant breakage, everywhere
[17:09] <treaki> dose the two lines of my config.txt look correct in your eyes?
[17:09] <clever> you need to seperate the cmdline
[17:10] <treaki> so 3 lines?
[17:10] <clever> yeah
[17:10] <clever> its either 'cmdline ' or 'cmdline='
[17:10] <clever> not sure
[17:10] <clever> start.elf isnt very sane, lol
[17:11] <treaki> what dose that
[17:11] <treaki> ************* SNIP ***********************
[17:11] <treaki> mean?
[17:11] <clever> one of these
[17:11] <clever> cmdline=followkernel dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p3 rootfstype=ext4 rootwait
[17:11] <clever> cmdline followkernel dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p3 rootfstype=ext4 rootwait
[17:11] <clever> not sure which one the bootloader will allow
[17:12] <methuzla> i think it has to be one long line
[17:12] <clever> that also
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[17:13] <methuzla> config.txt syntax is key=param
[17:13] <treaki> what dose that followkernel mean?, afaik i havent had that before..
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[17:15] <clever> methuzla: the initramfs uses space
[17:16] <clever> treaki: oh, i think followkernel is part of the initramfs config
[17:16] <clever> so it goes on that line
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[17:22] <treaki> lookes like it got a completely wrong commandline...
[17:22] <treaki> [ 0.000000] Kernel command line: [...]mem.m
[17:22] <treaki> em_size=0x20000000 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 rootwait
[17:23] <clever> i would just use cmdline.txt, simpler
[17:23] <clever> and the mem_size is being added by start.elf, you cant get rid of it
[17:23] <clever> ah, root differs, check both config.txt and cmdline.txt
[17:24] <clever> where did p2 come from?
[17:26] <treaki> but there is noting about that mmcblk on the card
[17:26] <treaki> :/media/sdcard$ grep mmcblk0p2 *
[17:26] <treaki> grep: overlays: Is a directory
[17:26] <treaki> Binary file start_cd.elf matches
[17:26] <treaki> Binary file start_db.elf matches
[17:26] <treaki> Binary file start.elf matches
[17:26] <treaki> Binary file start_x.elf matches
[17:26] <clever> use grep -r, not *
[17:27] <treaki> nothing else
[17:27] <treaki> i guess i have to restore the whole fat partition...
[17:27] <clever> it could be start.elf then, and that wont help
[17:27] <clever> try moving the cmdline to cmdline.txt
[17:28] <treaki> its already in there
[17:28] <clever> one minute
[17:29] <clever> [root@nix2:~]# strings /boot/start.elf |grep mmcblk
[17:29] <clever> console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 rootwait
[17:29] <treaki> i have still got the log of my distupgrade, would that help
[17:29] <clever> there is a default cmdline inside start.elf
[17:29] <clever> can you pastebin your config.txt?
[17:29] <treaki> yes
[17:30] <treaki> https://paste.debian.net/318893/
[17:31] <treaki> its now back like it was before i copyed the cmdline in
[17:31] <clever> and cmdline.txt has root set to p1?
[17:31] <treaki> root set?
[17:32] <clever> root=/dev/mmcblk0p3
[17:32] <clever> oops, p3
[17:32] <treaki> yes
[17:32] <clever> dont know then
[17:33] <treaki> thats my cmdline.txt
[17:33] <treaki> https://paste.debian.net/318894/
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[17:33] <clever> oh, and is mmcblk0p1 mounted to /boot/ ?
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[17:35] <treaki> there is nothing i can see bout whats mounted on the rpi cause i cant login
[17:35] <clever> ah
[17:35] <clever> how are you checking config.txt then?
[17:35] <clever> just mounting p1 on another system?
[17:36] <treaki> yes, i am plugging the sd card to my thinkpad...
[17:37] <clever> then the /boot part doesnt matter
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[17:38] <clever> just for reference, here is what ive got, https://paste.debian.net/318895/
[17:38] <clever> treaki: you can see that start.elf added a bunch of things
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[17:41] <treaki> yea but not removed your things...
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[17:41] <clever> is the thinkpad running windows or linux?
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[17:44] <treaki> debian linux
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[17:46] <clever> is there any reason the root is on p3 and not p2?
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[17:49] <treaki> guess no, just did it that way that time...
[17:49] <clever> all i can think of now is to change it to 2
[17:49] <clever> or run fsck on p1
[17:49] <treaki> p2 is swap
[17:50] <clever> the fs may be corrupt from an improper shutdown
[17:50] <treaki> fsck is a good idea
[17:50] <treaki> i havent got a good reboot, just crashed cause to much power consumtion as i plugged in an usb dev
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[17:52] <pedroalvarez> are there differences between swarren's u-boot and upstream? I'm failing to boot a raspberry-pi using an extlinux.conf file
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[18:01] <treaki> so now i have copyed the content of the boot partition of another pi to that one after formating its partition...
[18:01] <treaki> changed the cmdline.txt to p3 and it is working
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[18:01] <clever> strange
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[18:01] <treaki> still got no clue why it didnt but that was to much to find out
[18:01] <clever> either the start.elf was very broken, or some kind of FS corruption caused you and start.elf to see different things
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[18:02] <treaki> thanks a lot for your help
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[18:02] <Rubafix> I just bought a domain name, and I like my pi to handle the requests, how can I link the two considering I have a dynamic in?
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[18:02] <treaki> yea possible, but the dist-upgrade was dis morning and not directly before the crash
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[18:02] <Rubafix> Ip*
[18:03] <clever> Rubafix: youll need to find a dns server that allows simple updating, i'm using dns.he.net
[18:03] <clever> Rubafix: and then enable the dyndns option on your domain in that site
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[18:03] <nid0> Rubafix: if you want it sorted automatically you'll need to setup a dyndns service, direct the domain to that service's nameservers, install a dyndns client on your pi, and configure it to use that service and your domain
[18:03] <clever> you can then update the IP with just a simple curl command
[18:04] <clever> thats also another way to do it
[18:04] <Rubafix> But the ip being the Internet box, can't it update the dns itself?
[18:05] <clever> some routers do have dyndns clients built in
[18:05] <clever> in that case, you would just set your dyndns server and enter a name/pw/domain
[18:05] <treaki> hm, now its stuck on init...
[18:05] <clever> treaki: pastebin of the console?
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[18:06] <treaki> [ ***] A start job is running for dev-disk-...FF66.device (1min 14s / 1min 30s)
[18:07] <clever> give it another 16 seconds and it should give up and continue
[18:07] <clever> its probably looking for your old /boot by UUID
[18:07] <clever> and because you formated it, it aint gonna ever find it
[18:07] <treaki> right now i did a wrong thing (scrolling in screen) and it is flickeriung and i cant get the out the buffer...
[18:07] <treaki> Give root password for maintenance
[18:07] <treaki> (or press Control-D to continue): [ 124.867479] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0 eth0: hardware isn't capable of remote wakeup
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[18:07] <clever> youll need to fix fstab to explain where /boot has gone to
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[18:08] <nid0> youll need to remove the wrong entry in fstab
[18:08] <treaki> now i am logged in, what can i do to find out where the problem is
[18:08] <nid0> nano /etc/fstab
[18:08] <clever> blkid /dev/mmcblk0p1
[18:08] <clever> then nano fstab and fix the UUID
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[18:08] <clever> or just set it directly to mmcblk0p1
[18:08] <treaki> ah right new device id...
[18:08] <clever> boot can only ever be blk0p1, so uuid doesnt really do any good on a pi
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[18:09] <clever> ive had similar problems when i had to resize my /boot
[18:09] <clever> systemd kept saying 'that doesnt belong on /boot, let me fix it!'
[18:09] <clever> made it difficult to get the boot files into the new /boot
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[18:11] <treaki> thats a lot more difficult over serial then over ssh
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[18:11] <clever> ok, i have an idea
[18:11] <treaki> now ive got only 25 lines thanks to vim
[18:11] <clever> over serial, just force start ssh
[18:11] <treaki> but it is booting again
[18:11] <treaki> yey
[18:12] <treaki> thanks a lot for your help
[18:12] <clever> ive played with 'ip' a lot, so ive been able to manualy start sshd from a bare shell
[18:12] <clever> without any systemd or init running
[18:13] <clever> ip link set eth0 up; ip addr add 192.168.x.y/24 dev eth0; ip route add 192.168.x.0/24 dev eth0
[18:13] <clever> then /usr/sbin/sshd &
[18:13] <clever> and you should have ssh
[18:15] <Rubafix> Hey I was wondering how your sdcard was set up, mine is 8GB with a 128MB fat16 partition and the rest as ext4. I used disk imager and was wondering if it was standard result.
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[18:15] <clever> i bumped my /boot up to 512mb because my distro tends to keep a lot of kernels in there
[18:16] <clever> and now that ive done that, its only using 36mb, lol
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[18:19] <treaki> and now where the pi is running again ive got the same problem with the secound usb soundcard ive tryed
[18:20] <treaki> https://paste.debian.net/318901/
[18:20] <treaki> maybe i should ask the jack people bout that
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[18:30] <treaki> i now have reinstalled the most recent rpi kernel, which command do i use instead of update-grub2 on the rpi?
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[18:32] <clever> treaki: just ls /boot and see if anything changed
[18:32] <clever> the package manager may have done everthing for you
[18:34] <treaki> ok then i will try a reboot...
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[18:36] <treaki> yea, now its booted correctly
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[19:42] <Hedgart> Hello.
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[19:43] <Hedgart> Someone knows how make an hospot with a Rpi? I mean a hostpot without Internet access, meaning no usb wifi dongle, the goal is connecting to the wifi send by the rpi, then log on it with ssh.
[19:43] <Hedgart> Is it possible ?
[19:44] <myself> look at the piratebox project
[19:44] <myself> it's probably already implemented most of what you want to do :)
[19:45] <Hedgart> Yep, but in docs I need of an external wifi dongle.
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[19:46] <Hedgart> With "normal" pc you can easely create fake access point, isn't possible with rpi?
[19:46] <myself> well something's got to generate the AP signal that you're gonna connect to
[19:46] <ppq> the pi doesnt have wifi on its own
[19:46] <myself> any wifi device can run in host-ap mode
[19:46] <Hedgart> Oh! Wifi doesn't have wifi included?
[19:46] <Hedgart> well, ok, that's why :P
[19:46] <myself> dafuq?
[19:46] <Hedgart> rpi*
[19:46] <Hedgart> s/Wifi/rpi ;)
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[19:47] <myself> that's why people stuff usb wifi dongles into them, yes...
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[19:47] <Hedgart> OK! Well, the next time I'll buy a rpi before :P
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[19:48] <Hedgart> anyways thanks ! :)
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[19:57] <Rubafix> Hello
[19:57] <Rubafix> Anyone know where I could find an apache 2.4 package for my raspberry, the default one I installed is 2.2
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[20:01] <ShorTie> it's a Debian thing that you can only get 2.2, you need to upgrade to a jessie system to get 2.4 https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=apache2
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[20:02] <gorroth> anyone else need to use my dongle?
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[20:13] <[SLB]> i solved with the boot partition, i didn't need to write the whole image on the sd, i just mounted the 1st partition of the img and copied those few files of /boot in the sdcar
[20:13] <Rubafix> ShorTie: Yes but the net install version nor the minibian is on jessie it would seem, so only the bloated 4GB version could do it
[20:14] <Rubafix> Do you know about any small raspbian based on jessie?
[20:14] <ShorTie> there are lots of ways out there to get jessie
[20:15] <Rubafix> Can I like just update the kernel or something?
[20:15] <ShorTie> i made my own install, my_pi_os , it's on github
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[20:25] <Rubafix> ShorTie: how does your thing work? i just put the .sh on the sdcard?
[20:25] <Rubafix> I guess I would have to execute it on a linux os first
[20:25] <ShorTie> you run it on your pi
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[20:31] <Rubafix> ShorTie: that's interesting, I lost my micro sd adapter so I can't put files on the card for my raspberry 2, but as it is currently running, is there a way to replace the current system if I execute it from the pi?
[20:31] <Rubafix> My sentence doesn't make a lot of sense
[20:32] <Rubafix> Well I could push the script to my running pi, and maybe manage to replace the current system by the jessie one as I have no external way to do it
[20:33] <ShorTie> not really, it either makes an image or a sdcard
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[20:34] <ShorTie> you could changes your sources to jessie, and then upgrade
[20:34] <ShorTie> about the only way if you can't write a new sdcard
[20:35] <myself> dist-upgrade tends to take a while..
[20:35] <ShorTie> that it does, and is not really the recommended method to do it
[20:36] <myself> well, losing your microsd adapter isn't recommended either
[20:36] <myself> but since Rubafix lives on mars and he can't just go down to the store and get another one, he's gonna have to science the shit out of this raspberry
[20:37] <IT_Sean> myself: please watch your language. The channel policy is linked in the topic if you have not read it.
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[20:38] <myself> Aw, sorry. I did read it, and slipped.
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[20:39] <IT_Sean> I did like the "The Martian" reference, as that was a FANTASTIC book and a pretty great movie, but... channel policy 'n all. :)
[20:43] <myself> no prob :) at least someone caught it!
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[20:46] <[SLB]> was just reading about this indeed http://linuxconfig.org/raspbian-gnu-linux-upgrade-from-wheezy-to-raspbian-jessie-8
[20:46] <[SLB]> though any actual need to do the upgrade? i don't know the changes from wheezy
[20:47] <ShorTie> Debian is the 1 that recommends a fresh install instead of upgrading
[20:48] <Encrypt> A fresh install will always be better anyway
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[20:50] <IT_Sean> myself: have you read the book and/or seen the movie?
[20:52] <myself> IT_Sean: actually no, I've just failed to keep my head under a rock for the last several months and I feel like I've seen it by osmosis ;)
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[20:54] <IT_Sean> myself: I would recommend both reading the book and seeing the movie. I enjoyed both immensely.
[20:55] <Rubafix> myself: well I ordered a samsung evo thing, but won't get it until wednesday. you know the wait can kill don't you? =D
[20:55] <myself> My book list is already pretty long but it might have to take cuts in line. :)
[20:55] <myself> Currently a few chapters from the end of _The Men Who Made Radio_, which is incredibly dense but totally fascinating.
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[20:55] <Rubafix> [SLB]: Well first one is updated packages =)
[20:56] <Rubafix> [SLB]: and thanks for the link
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[21:06] <JakeSays> anyone in here using mono? i'm looking for a source for a 4.x build
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[21:13] <k_j> still no luck. i am trying to find a case for rpi + touch + camera , but not luck at all
[21:15] <IT_Sean> For all three?
[21:15] <myself> sugru! :P
[21:15] <IT_Sean> I've not seen anything like that, tbh.
[21:16] <IT_Sean> Might have to make soemthing.
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[21:16] <myself> Step 1: Make friends with someone who owns a lasercutter.
[21:16] <IT_Sean> Step 2: ????
[21:16] <IT_Sean> Step 3: PROFIT!
[21:17] <selckin> then settle for friend with 3d printer
[21:17] <IT_Sean> s/laser cutter/3d printer/cnc mill
[21:17] <Spookys> I'm allowed to use a lasercutter and multiple 3D printers, however I'm in France :P
[21:17] <IT_Sean> That explains the smell. :p
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[21:36] <Hedgart> Hello.
[21:37] <Hedgart> Do you know how can I control a rbg light with a rpi?
[21:38] <Hedgart> In fact, I hesitate, should I choose a light or a speaker to send a message to the user?
[21:38] <Hedgart> I don't find much information with speaker
[21:38] <myself> dude, try google
[21:38] <myself> "rgb" is the usual order, that'll help
[21:39] <zleap> Hedgart: same was as you would control 3x leds
[21:39] <zleap> only there is usually a common negative so connect thatto ground and the other 3 to gpio pins via resistors
[21:40] <Hedgart> I've tried google ;) I try every time before ask. BUT, I don't know if I should use speaker or light and for the speaker if it need an external card to control it..
[21:40] <zleap> i guess
[21:40] <Hedgart> (sorry for my english)
[21:40] <myself> https://www.google.com/search?q=rpi+rgb+led
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[21:41] <Hedgart> myself: thanks, I don't found any information about this http://www.adafruit.com/images/product-videos/1024x768/2762-00.mp4
[21:41] <myself> Hedgart: what's the parent page for that video? what item is it related to?
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[21:42] <Hedgart> http://www.adafruit.com/products/2762
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[21:43] <Hedgart> in fact I don't understand why it's request this: https://www.adafruit.com/product/1762
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[21:44] <myself> g "neopixel raspberry pi"
[21:45] <zleap> the pi has speacker output
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[21:46] <Hedgart> zleap: yep, but I've read that with an "classic" speaker, the sound will be low.
[21:46] <JakeSays> i'm doing a jessie upgrade, and its been sitting on "Unpacking replacement desktop-base..." for a while now. is that normal?
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[21:48] <myself> so, speaker amplifier
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[22:31] <Ahmed90> Hello, i just got my pi 2.. trying to ssh in but keep getting connection refused :9
[22:32] <Ahmed90> i only got my laptop around so .. no monitor etc.. to debug on it D:
[22:33] <ppq> is openssh-server installed? (it's not on the official images)
[22:33] <ppq> (as far as i know)
[22:33] <Ahmed90> afaik its noobs sd with rasbian
[22:34] <Ahmed90> i got the canakit raspi2 no microsd adapter included D:
[22:34] <ppq> never tried that, but i think that also doesnt have openssh-server
[22:35] <ppq> if you have a usb keyboard you could install it blind
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[22:36] <Ahmed90> haha
[22:37] <Rubafix> I'm pretty sure it is installed and running by default
[22:37] <Ahmed90> Rubafix, thats what i read everywhere ..
[22:37] <Ahmed90> i can see it on router.. i can ping it
[22:37] <Ahmed90> but no ssh
[22:37] <Rubafix> what port are you using?
[22:38] <Ahmed90> 22 23
[22:38] <Ahmed90> both failed
[22:38] <Rubafix> it should be defaulted to 22 but maybe your kit as a particular config
[22:38] <Ahmed90> looking around the router for blocked sth
[22:38] <Rubafix> Well do as ppq said, plug the damn keyboard
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[22:39] <Rubafix> If you ssh from the same network you should not have to open anything
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[22:40] <Rubafix> But wait if you have the netinstall noobs maybe it is not finished seting up
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[22:40] <Ahmed90> on laptop thats the issue >.< and kdrkvg,dryk CanaKit for not including microsd adapter :(
[22:41] <Rubafix> I ended up using raspbian netinstall, and I had to wait about 10 minutes before being able to connect with ssh
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[22:41] <Rubafix> Check the ethernet port leds for any activity
[22:42] <ppq> Ahmed90, do you have an android smartphone? you can sometimes use those as card readers, if "usb mass storage mode" is supported
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[22:42] <ppq> in linux at least
[22:42] <Rubafix> ppq man that was me yesterday, trying my best to get the damn phone to be used as mass_storage instead of mtp ^^
[22:42] <Ahmed90> ah there..
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[22:43] <Ahmed90> Canakit defaults the first boot to raspi-config
[22:43] <XV8> Is anyone else having issues trying to download the NOOBS image? The download will start for a little bit then fail, and I have to keep continuing where it left off after it drops connection
[22:43] <JK-47> get a non-noobs image if you know which distro you want
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[22:44] <ppq> XV8, you can use wget -c http://foo, it will automatically continue dropped connections (default: max. 10 tries)
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[22:52] <kype> is it possible to power the RPI off my mac mini USB 3.0 ports?
[22:53] <ozzzy> I powered mine off a PC USB3 port
[22:53] <ppq> yes, that should work just fine
[22:53] <kype> could you connect a keyboard and mouse to with sufficient power?
[22:53] <ozzzy> I had a platter HDD, a wireless mouse/kbd, a USB memory stick and a wifi dongle running
[22:54] <ppq> most likely, yes
[22:54] <kype> cool thanks, saved me a couple dollars getting the official power brick
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[22:58] <myself> there's an official power brick? weird. I thought the point of using micro-USB for power was that you could use whatever cellphone bricks are available in your country and there wouldn't have to be an official power anything!
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[22:59] <TheLostAdmin> The official one came about more as a marketing thing, I think. Although a lot of old cell phone chargers don't supply enough amps.
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[23:10] <NedScott> it's a safe recommendation, too. Fair price for enough amps.
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[23:10] <NedScott> so if you're helping someone else set up a Pi, you can just say "get that one"
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[23:15] <Rubafix> Guys I bought a domain name for my raspberry, I manage to link my internetbox using DynHost, so now I have a subdomain that redirect to my ip, however using the plain domain name I am redirected to the domain provider default page
[23:16] <JK-47> you set up port forwarding? and your ISP allows you to run servers?
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[23:17] <JK-47> whats nslookup report?
[23:17] <Rubafix> JK-47: I didn't even knew some isp would forbid this. I don't think it would be legal in France anyway to prevent you from hosting anything
[23:18] <JK-47> you opened up your port and forwarded it to the internal IP of the Pi?
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[23:19] <Rubafix> yup I have openned port 40022 for ssh and 40080 for http
[23:19] <H__> JK-47: I chose a provider that explicitely allows you to host services. In fact they encourage it.
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[23:19] <JK-47> Rubafix: msg me the domain you have and ill check it
[23:19] <shauno> so you have you.dynhost.whatever working but not you.com ?
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[23:19] <JK-47> whose hosting the dns zone?
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[23:56] <kype> The RPI2 doesnt have a NO IR camera yet correct?
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[23:58] <pksato> kype: why not?
[23:58] <pksato> sold out?
[23:58] <kype> "the Pi NoIR Camera Board is compatible only with the first versions of the Pi: Model A and Model B." - source http://www.intorobotics.com/raspberry-pi-camera-guide/
[23:58] <SpeedEvil> The pi camera is not 2 or 1
[23:58] <SpeedEvil> it's both
[23:58] <SpeedEvil> oh
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[23:59] <SpeedEvil> I'm pretty sure that was written back when there was no 2
[23:59] <SpeedEvil> I may be confused.
[23:59] <SpeedEvil> Please check.
[23:59] <kype> but they list PI 2 as a compatible model for the normal Pi camera module
[23:59] <shauno> hm, I have a noir, I can try that (b2) in 20-30 minutes

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