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IRC Log for 2015-11-12

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[0:01] <frite> How do you start a SSH session?
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[0:04] <Karlton> you run shhd daemon
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[0:05] <bsuh> frite: the default raspbian seems to run it automatically on startup
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[0:08] <Karlton> bsuh: you can move the root partition over to a USB device and then remove the old SD card once the kernel has loaded
[0:08] <frite> i meant how do i connect from the PC?
[0:11] <Karlton> use an shh client like that one that comes with OpenSSH
[0:11] <Karlton> called "ssh"
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[0:12] <RebelCoder> frite: what OS are you on ? And are you trying to connect to your Pi ?
[0:12] <frite> yes, ubuntu, want to connect to pi
[0:12] <frite> trying to google it
[0:12] <RebelCoder> Easy !
[0:12] <RebelCoder> No google needed.
[0:13] <RebelCoder> Pi and PC on the same network.. right ?
[0:13] <frite> how do i know what address the rasp has
[0:13] <frite> yes direct connection
[0:13] <RebelCoder> Do you know the IP of your Pi ?
[0:13] <frite> nope
[0:13] <RebelCoder> ok. is your Pi on a second monitor - can you see what is on it ?
[0:13] <RebelCoder> can you type - ifconfig
[0:13] <RebelCoder> and you will see the Ip
[0:13] <RebelCoder> 192.168...
[0:14] <RebelCoder> similar to that
[0:14] <frite> infconfig only shows my laptop ip doesnt it?
[0:14] <RebelCoder> If you type on your PC , yes
[0:14] <RebelCoder> \if on the Pi - then Pis
[0:14] <RebelCoder> Look.
[0:14] <frite> but to type on the raspberry i firsdt need to ssh in....
[0:14] <RebelCoder> So it is not connected to a second monitor...
[0:15] <RebelCoder> right ?
[0:15] <Karlton> just see what your ip is on the laptop and you can probably guess the rpi's ip
[0:15] <RebelCoder> If you connect your Pi directly to Your PC, what cable are you using ? if PATCH - then it will not work. You need Cross Cable to do PC - Pi.
[0:15] <RebelCoder> Can you connect the Pi to your router, instead of your PC directly ?
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[0:17] <Karlton> if you connected it directly then you might have to do some extra work
[0:18] <RebelCoder> not if he has a wrong cable...
[0:18] <RebelCoder> then it will not work.
[0:18] <RebelCoder> If he is using cable, used to connect PC to a Router, then it is a Patch Cable. And it will not work for PC Direct To Device.
[0:19] <RebelCoder> You need Cross Cable for That
[0:20] <gordonDrogon> not in 2015.
[0:20] <gordonDrogon> unless its a very very old PC.
[0:21] <RebelCoder> gordonDrogon: what does the cable have to do with the year ?
[0:21] <gordonDrogon> The Pi's NIC is auto-sense, so no x-cable ever needed there.
[0:21] <gordonDrogon> x-cables are 1900's technology.
[0:21] <RebelCoder> I have latest Laptop and Pi 2
[0:21] <RebelCoder> does not work with Patch
[0:21] <gordonDrogon> then you can connect them back to back without an x-cable.
[0:22] <RebelCoder> Tried a while ago... Now I am on wireless for all devices..
[0:22] <gordonDrogon> that works too....
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[0:22] <RebelCoder> And is the best way I think
[0:22] <bsuh> Karlton: how do i copy my root to a USB card?
[0:22] <bsuh> stick*
[0:22] <RebelCoder> less cables and allows remote deploy
[0:22] <frite> the pi uses dhcp?
[0:23] <frite> cant you list a device if it is directly connected?
[0:23] <Karlton> I got cat5 cables all over the house
[0:23] <RebelCoder> don;t think so.
[0:23] <RebelCoder> frite: can you connect to a rounter instead ?
[0:23] <frite> sure
[0:23] <RebelCoder> then problem solved
[0:24] <frite> how can i get the ip after that?
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[0:24] <RebelCoder> if it is not connected to a screen and you can;'t see the output..
[0:24] <RebelCoder> there are two ways
[0:24] <RebelCoder> 1) look up your router page and see Attached Devices
[0:25] <Karlton> bsuh: you can use rsync or just carefully crafted cp command
[0:25] <RebelCoder> or, I love to use an app on my Android, that scans while network and shows IPs of all devices
[0:25] <RebelCoder> Android app "Network Scan"
[0:26] <Karlton> can't you do that with nmap?
[0:26] <RebelCoder> there is also a good app "RasPi Check" that shows full status of your Pi
[0:26] <SpeedEvil> http://imgur.com/gallery/6bTmAda new watch replacement
[0:27] <RebelCoder> SpeedEvil: is that your cat ?
[0:27] <SpeedEvil> Alas not.
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[0:27] <frite> bah my router is in another room
[0:28] <RebelCoder> You will be ssh,ing in... who cares
[0:28] <RebelCoder> frite: you can connect it there now and we will help to SSH in to it.
[0:28] <frite> ok ty
[0:29] <RebelCoder> \then you could by a NANO WiFi USB adapter like I have
[0:29] <RebelCoder> and it will be on your desk, WiFi connected at all times.
[0:29] <RebelCoder> I can SSH into my Pi and code programs even from work.... when my Pi is at home
[0:29] <Karlton> seems wasteful if you aren't moving it will using it
[0:30] <RebelCoder> Karlton: moving what ?
[0:30] <Karlton> the rpi
[0:30] <Karlton> s/will/while/
[0:30] <RebelCoder> What do you mean ? It is on my desk, with all the stuff connected to it and I code. when all done and tested - build a final project with another copy
[0:30] <RebelCoder> why to move it ?
[0:31] <Karlton> I mean wifi vs ethernet
[0:31] <RebelCoder> Ahhh.. I know what you mean now
[0:32] <RebelCoder> You never know where and if you will need to move it for a robot or another project
[0:32] <RebelCoder> I think Pi on WiFi is the best option.
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[0:35] <frite> i tried "ssh ip" but i et asked for pw only and not user
[0:36] <frite> RebelCoder, yes i have a wifi usb
[0:36] <RebelCoder> On Ubuntu in Terminal
[0:36] <frite> yes
[0:36] <RebelCoder> ssh pi@192.168.0.1
[0:36] <RebelCoder> or whatever the ip
[0:37] <RebelCoder> so it works ?
[0:37] <Karlton> it's ssh user@host
[0:37] <RebelCoder> frite: Works ?
[0:37] <frite> i have a slight memory if changing the pw
[0:37] <RebelCoder> Whaaaat ?
[0:38] <RebelCoder> =)
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[0:39] <RebelCoder> frite: ..soo.... does it work ?
[0:39] <frite> yes now i found the pw, thanks!
[0:39] <frite> is it easy to set up the USB wifi?
[0:39] <frite> just plug it in and then...?
[0:40] <RebelCoder> First, you have to make sure your USB WiFi is supported by the Pi
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[0:40] <RebelCoder> frite: Find your EXACT model here: http://goo.gl/fDmb1x
[0:41] <RebelCoder> Most newest are just Plug & Play
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[0:41] <RebelCoder> Then, when your USB wiFi is connected, just do few more things : http://raspberrypihq.com/how-to-add-wifi-to-the-raspberry-pi/
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[0:42] <RebelCoder> Easy!
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[0:42] <RebelCoder> Ok. Keep hacking. I have to work here too. Let me know if you need more help later on.
[0:42] <Smasher> I've got some dirty problems with a driver for a usb wifi device
[0:43] <RebelCoder> I would say it is a dirty USB WiFi
[0:43] <RebelCoder> I had 3 different USBs and all worked just fine
[0:43] <Smasher> So that's unfortunately not so easy as it is described everywhere
[0:43] <Smasher> I hoped it would be fixed with upgrade to the new kernel
[0:43] <Smasher> But that's not the case
[0:44] <RebelCoder> Actually it is very easy. If you have some old or cheap China WiFi Usb- then maybe. If you have a normal brended one TP-Link, Edimax, Belkin...
[0:44] <RebelCoder> then they all work
[0:44] <frite> RebelCoder, is the usb enpugh power?
[0:44] <frite> tp-link it is
[0:44] <Smasher> root@rpi1:~# lsusb | grep WLAN
[0:44] <Smasher> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:817f Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188RU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[0:44] <RebelCoder> Yes. I run WiFi and BlueTooth on mine 24/7
[0:44] <Smasher> that realtek shit
[0:45] <RebelCoder> Smasher: what is the make of Your USB ?
[0:45] <RebelCoder> who makes it ? what does it say on the adapter ?
[0:45] <Smasher> ALFA AWUS036NHR
[0:45] <RebelCoder> And.... a proper WiFi for Pi is like 5-8 $
[0:45] <RebelCoder> ALFA.... exactly the case of unknown brand stuff.
[0:46] <RebelCoder> Not Pi or Kernels fault at all
[0:46] <Smasher> http://www.alfa.com.tw/products_show.php?pc=34&ps=8
[0:46] <RebelCoder> whn I bought few Wifis for Pi, I only purchased known good firms
[0:46] <Karlton> most of them use non-free firmware
[0:46] <Karlton> and if they don't update the firmware, you might get screwed
[0:46] <RebelCoder> Smasher: that is unknown weird clone brand
[0:47] <Smasher> so i am lucky
[0:47] <RebelCoder> Karlton: Exactly right.
[0:47] <RebelCoder> Smasher: this seems to be jsut a generic china / tw clone cheap shit
[0:47] <Smasher> might be
[0:48] <RebelCoder> Never buy that stuff... if they drop the support as they always do - , the device is dead
[0:48] <Smasher> neither i decided to get this product nor i paid for it
[0:48] <RebelCoder> good . Get a normal brand WiFi and they all are PlugAndPlay, all new , proper branded
[0:48] <Smasher> i got this for some research work from the uni
[0:48] <RebelCoder> Ok then.
[0:49] <Smasher> the option is to change the hardware seems to be just too easy :)
[0:49] <RebelCoder> Smasher: not change. get the proper, working and up to date hardware.
[0:49] <RebelCoder> then everything works.
[0:50] <RebelCoder> Smasher: I am wondering, where are you from ? this brand ALFA is not in US, Russia or England
[0:50] <RebelCoder> Where did you get it ?
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[0:50] <Smasher> Well :)
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[0:51] <RebelCoder> Uzbekistan ?
[0:51] <Smasher> lol
[0:51] <RebelCoder> Ireland !
[0:51] <Smasher> Nothing unspecial, I study in a University for Applied Sciences in Europe
[0:51] <Smasher> Germany
[0:51] <RebelCoder> but you don;t have strange Accent !
[0:51] <RebelCoder> You are not German !
[0:52] <Smasher> may be :)
[0:52] <Smasher> but I have been germanized :P
[0:52] <RebelCoder> Russky !
[0:52] <RebelCoder> Ok. I have to work now.
[0:52] <Smasher> eingedeutscht as we say it here
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[0:53] <Smasher> Good luck, have fun RebelCoder
[0:57] <frite> in the interfaces file is supposed to have "" around the wpa ssid and pw?
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[1:01] <frite> hmm, is it the WPS PIN that is the password for your SSID? or is it the Wireless Key?
[1:02] <RebelCoder> Just like you connect from your phone
[1:02] <frite> yes so i have the right pw, should it be surrounded by ""
[1:03] <frite> in the interfaces file?
[1:03] <RebelCoder> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[1:03] <RebelCoder> wpa-ssid "MyHomeWiFi"
[1:03] <RebelCoder> wpa-psk "pass123"
[1:03] <RebelCoder> yes
[1:03] <frite> yes but wpa-ssid MyHomeWifi or wpa-ssid "MyHomeWifi" ?
[1:03] <RebelCoder> exactly as I wrote here
[1:03] <RebelCoder> in ""
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[1:04] <RebelCoder> Copy and put your SSID and PAss
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[1:05] <RebelCoder> just as the example has it:
[1:05] <RebelCoder> http://raspberrypihq.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/interfaces-in-nano-after-edit.png
[1:05] <frite> yes i did
[1:06] <RebelCoder> good. reboot and disconnect the cable.
[1:06] <RebelCoder> Pi might change the Ip too
[1:06] <frite> if i do lsusb i get the same nbr of devices whether the USB wifi is connected or not...
[1:06] <frite> so not working?
[1:06] <frite> not enopugh power from usb perhaps?
[1:06] <ali1234> unlikely
[1:06] <RebelCoder> so WiFi doungle is not detected ?
[1:07] <Karlton> it will say in dmesg
[1:07] <RebelCoder> After you follow that image from the tutorial, there is a line, that makes WiFi thingy Auto-Mount
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[1:07] <RebelCoder> Reboot and WiFi should be Plug-Auto-Mount
[1:07] <RebelCoder> so you should see it in device list
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[1:07] <RebelCoder> in ifconfig
[1:07] <ali1234> frite: pastebinit the output from lsusb and dmesg please
[1:08] <RebelCoder> ali1234: is taking over. I am gone...
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[1:08] <ali1234> you need to do "ifconfig -a" to see adapters which aren't "up"
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[1:11] <frite> http://lpaste.net/145069
[1:12] <ali1234> okay you lack firmware
[1:12] <ali1234> rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin - you need this file
[1:14] <Karlton> firmware blobs :/
[1:14] <ali1234> file is available here: https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu/blob/master/rtl8188eufw.bin
[1:14] <ali1234> put it in /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/
[1:14] <ali1234> then i advise a reboot
[1:15] <frite> Firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin
[1:15] <frite> can i transfer it via ssh?
[1:15] <ali1234> yeah, click on "raw" to download it
[1:15] <ali1234> then transfer however you like
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[1:17] <ali1234> this firmware is supposed to be in the firmware package now?
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[1:18] <puff> Good evening. Can somebody point me at the SIP standard for controlling LEDs? I'm having trouble googling it due to false positives on session initiation protocol SIP.
[1:19] <ali1234> frite: okay forget what i just said, you just need to install the "firmware-realtek" package
[1:19] <puff> Or did I get confused, is it called SIP or isit really SPI?
[1:19] <ali1234> delete the firmware you just copied first, if you copied it already
[1:20] <ali1234> puff: you probably thinking of SPI, but SPI isn't really for controlling LEDs either
[1:21] <frite> ali1234 where can i find it?
[1:21] <puff> ali1234: I could swear I saw a reference to SIP, I remember thinking "wait, isn't that for VOIP?"
[1:21] <ali1234> frite: in the repositories: apt-get install firmware-realtek
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[1:21] <ali1234> puff: what are you actually trying to do?
[1:22] <puff> What protocol does ws2801 implement?
[1:22] <puff> ali1234: Already did it :-).
[1:22] <puff> ali1234: http://www.darksleep.com/labyrinth/
[1:23] <ali1234> puff: that chip looks like it would work off SPI
[1:23] <puff> ali1234: thanks. I must have been from too much
[1:23] <puff> ali1234: thanks. I must have been mistaken (from too much caffeine :-).
[1:23] <ali1234> depends on the timings
[1:24] <ali1234> there's one such LED driver chip that uses weird timings and needs to be bit banged
[1:24] <frite> ali1234, it says it is already the newest version
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[1:25] <puff> ali1234: driving these http://www.bestlightingbuy.com/ws2801-6-rgb-digital-led-modules.html
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[1:25] <ali1234> frite: what version is installed?
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[1:28] <frite> how do i see that?
[1:28] <ali1234> apt-cache policy firmware-realtek
[1:29] <sentriz> Hi, I'm running OSMC on an RPi2 with media stored on an external HDD. Would it be a good or bad idea crontab the mounting and unmounting of it while I'm in school? I would like to prolong the life of the disk as much as possible.
[1:30] <frite> ali1234, http://lpaste.net/145069
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[1:30] <frite> on top of the paste
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[1:30] <ali1234> frite: that's quite an old version
[1:30] <frite> half a year
[1:31] <frite> bought the raspberrry in august and the wifi usb at the same time (havent had time until now to play with it)
[1:31] <ali1234> start again with raspbian jessie
[1:31] <ali1234> or failing that run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
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[1:32] <ali1234> sentriz: unmounting should not be necessary, instead just set the spindown time to something sensible
[1:33] <ali1234> sentriz: a media only drive won't get woken, cos there shouldn't be logs on it etc
[1:33] <frite> raspbian jessie means getting a new OS...?
[1:34] <ali1234> frite: yes
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[1:34] <frite> anyway, ty have to go to bed now but will continue next week.
[1:34] <frite> learned some stuff
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[1:35] <ali1234> sentriz: anecdotally, power on hours doesn't seem to hurt drives much, power cycle count seems to be worse for them
[1:35] <ali1234> and ultimately drives die pretty much at random anyway
[1:35] <sentriz> ali1234: ah okay. How would I go about changing the spin down time? I'm on mobile.
[1:35] <ali1234> sentriz: with hdparm
[1:35] <ali1234> the default is probably fine, depending on the harddrive type
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[1:36] <ali1234> personally, i would not take any steps to try to prolong drive lifespan like that... i don't think it is worth even the minimal amount of effort
[1:36] <ali1234> oh and be careful with hdparm - read the help and the manpage
[1:37] <Smasher> do somebody develop under c for rpi?
[1:37] <Smasher> or even asm?
[1:37] <sentriz> ali1234: thank you :)
[1:37] <Smasher> regarding to armv6 documentation, there is ia dsp-extenstion
[1:38] <ali1234> sentriz: best way to prolong drive life is to reduce heat and vibration
[1:38] <Smasher> do i need certain gcc flags to use it?
[1:38] <Smasher> or some special intrinsic?
[1:38] <ali1234> Smasher: what's the name of the extension?
[1:38] <Smasher> or do i doomed to code that part in asm?
[1:38] <Smasher> am ?
[1:39] <Smasher> well here is the hint https://www.arm.com/products/processors/technologies/dsp-simd.php
[1:39] <ali1234> just reading that
[1:39] <sentriz> ali1234: this hard drive is getting lots of air and is sitting on top of a flat layer of bubble wrap
[1:39] <ali1234> sentriz: i hope it's anti-static bubble wrap
[1:39] <sentriz> Ali
[1:40] <sentriz> ali1234: it is not :p
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[1:40] <sentriz> ali1234: it's in a plastic housing though
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[1:41] <ali1234> Smasher: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gcc-linaro/+bug/643479
[1:42] <ali1234> this seems to imply that gcc didn't used to make use of the SIMD stuff, but now it does (it is marked fix-released)
[1:42] <ali1234> after five years that stuff is probably as good as it is going to get
[1:43] <Smasher> ali1234 yeah man i also find just some bugreports or forum postings but no certain clue
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[1:44] <ali1234> Smasher: your best bet is to compile some code and then decompile it like they have done
[1:44] <Smasher> i already started to learn arm-assembler to understand what is really going on
[1:44] <Smasher> it seems to be the only path to find the truth
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[1:44] <ali1234> ultimately that's always the case
[1:44] <Smasher> yeah sure
[1:45] <Smasher> but it somehow feels to be an overkill
[1:45] <ali1234> you can't really beat jtag debugging if you absolutely definitely have to know exactly what is happening
[1:46] <Smasher> *sigh*
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[1:47] <Smasher> i think the next thing i will try is to write a piece of code which could be obviously simplified to one dsp-instruction, then run gcc -O3 and look what it produces with aid of objdump
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[1:47] <ali1234> there's a channel for gcc, they might know
[1:47] <semininja> having issues with uSD cards and images
[1:48] <Smasher> i just expected somebody did already go this way
[1:48] <ali1234> writing compilers is really specialized knowledge
[1:48] <semininja> I've gone through a few things already
[1:48] <Smasher> ali1234 wait, i dont want to develop my own compiler :D
[1:48] <ali1234> Smasher: no, but the only people who are going to know are the ones who did
[1:48] <semininja> burned a stock image on a new card, didn't work: scanning lines on HDMI out
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[1:49] <semininja> burned a copied image from a functional card onto a formatted card, didn't work: errors when booting, lots of things not-right once logged in
[1:49] <Smasher> god i got into some serious crap
[1:50] <ali1234> Smasher: #raspberrypi-internals might also be a good place to ask, although most of the people there are also here
[1:50] <Smasher> ali1234 i just want to find out HOW do i get things i implement more efficient
[1:50] <Smasher> oh, thanks for the hint, i will ask there
[1:51] <Smasher> but as deeper i dig as more i understand that's not rpi related
[1:52] <semininja> Have there been any other reports of problems with images not being written properly?
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[1:52] <ali1234> semininja: yes, but it is usually because of bad sd cards
[1:52] <semininja> I've got 2 right now, one Samsung EVO and one SanDisk Ultra
[1:52] <semininja> both 64gb
[1:52] <semininja> and one working AmazonBasics
[1:52] <ali1234> are you sure they are genuine?
[1:53] <semininja> 16GB
[1:53] <semininja> the Samsung one worked perfectly for months before something happened which caused it to stop working
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[1:53] <semininja> the SanDisk could be fake, I'm not sure
[1:54] <semininja> honestly it does seem a bit off
[1:54] <ali1234> the thing about those fake cards is often they under-report capacity
[1:54] <ali1234> they fail when you run out of space and something gets overwritten
[1:55] <ali1234> so sometimes they work okay for a while, then die
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[2:44] <poolson> hey i have a pi and got some basic web service running on it. over time (a couple days) it seems to slow down
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[2:44] <poolson> if i reboot then all is good
[2:44] <poolson> running "top" shows nothing out of control
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[2:45] <poolson> is this a normal thing? i assume not. whats some good approaches to narrowing it down ?
[2:46] <JakeSays> do i've got an adafruit motor hat that i'm using to drive three small motors. it is suggested that i use separate power supplies for the pi and the motors. how critical is this? i have a 2A phone adapter that i'd like to use to run both of them
[2:46] <JK-47> how many connections do you have open in time_wait?
[2:46] <Smasher> ali1234 cya later, cheers buddy ;)
[2:46] <CoJaBo> JakeSays: If the motors all run at full load, it could crash the pi
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[2:47] <CoJaBo> You probably need a good deal more than 2A if you want to use a single supply
[2:47] <JakeSays> CoJaBo: the motors are small - 136ma each. they're about 3mm in diameter
[2:47] <ali1234> JakeSays: is that the stall current?
[2:47] <CoJaBo> Motors will draw significant surge/stall current
[2:48] <poolson> netstat showing nothing in time_wait
[2:48] <ali1234> also using a separate power supply is not just about total power drain. motors also feed back power and electrical noise which can cause problems
[2:48] <JakeSays> ali1234: thats the current i measured while they were freely spinning
[2:48] <CoJaBo> They also backfeed plenty of noise into the PSU, which will make things "exciting"
[2:48] <ali1234> JakeSays: right. when they first spin up they will use a LOT more than that
[2:48] <JakeSays> hmm
[2:48] <CoJaBo> JakeSays: Stop all the shafts, measure load then
[2:49] <poolson> im not putting any load on it
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[2:49] <ali1234> JakeSays: don't actually stall the motors, you can damage them :(
[2:49] <ali1234> just check the datasheet
[2:49] <JakeSays> well, i'm under some time constraints, so for now i'll just stick to the two supplies. down the road i'll refactor the power system.
[2:50] <JakeSays> ali1234: no datasheet - they're vibrating motors out of disposable toothbrushes
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[2:50] <ali1234> i use one power source (batteries) and two independent boost converters
[2:50] <ali1234> one just for the motors
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[2:50] <ali1234> my battery protection circuit has a limit of 2A, but i had to modify it because the motors tripped it
[2:50] <ali1234> now it's got a limit of 4A and it's okay
[2:51] <ali1234> but the motors only draw about 200mA when free spinning
[2:51] <ali1234> and the pi itself only uses about 400mA
[2:51] <JakeSays> well damn things will get interesting with my next project which uses 4 1.2a steppers
[2:52] <ali1234> steppers are a whole different animal
[2:52] <JakeSays> i hope in a good way
[2:52] <CoJaBo> lol
[2:53] <JakeSays> but for that project i dont mind having multiple supplies
[2:53] <JakeSays> this project i'll actually have three - one for the pi, one for the motors and one for an android phone
[2:53] <CoJaBo> Steper Motors: Because 12 - 12 + 6 + 6 - 12, probably will not equal 0. >_>
[2:54] <JakeSays> huh?
[2:54] <CoJaBo> I've had pretty lousy luck with them rofl
[2:54] <JakeSays> what were you using for controllers?
[2:54] <CoJaBo> (usually not the motors themselves, but the rest of the mechanics sticking and/or slipping)
[2:54] <JakeSays> ah
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[5:41] <insomniPI> is the pi model 2 a 32b or 64b cpu?
[5:42] <insomniPI> I'm trying to figure out which arduino software I need
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[5:43] <insomniPI> oh. it's in the repo
[5:43] <insomniPI> nvm
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[5:46] <Karlton> it's 32bit
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[5:49] <insomniPI> ty
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[6:22] <kookie> insomniPI: I use the pi's website Ubuntu download
[6:22] <insomniPI> is okay, I got 2:1.0.5
[6:22] <insomniPI> i was able to write a sketch & upload it. I'm happy. :)
[6:24] <kookie> insomniPI: https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/
[6:28] <insomniPI> is it quicker than raspbian or something?
[6:30] <kookie> oh yes.. man it FLIES...
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[6:33] <insomniPI> hmmm.
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[6:33] <insomniPI> I guess it is pretty quick to reinstall.
[6:33] <kookie> not bad.. installing takes a while
[6:34] <kookie> maybe a few re-boots
[6:35] <kookie> when it's running good, it boots in ten secs, shuts down in 2 secs
[6:35] <insomniPI> meh.
[6:35] <insomniPI> I'll get another card & install it on there.
[6:35] <insomniPI> I mostly want to do arduino stuff with it & it works fine as is
[6:35] <kookie> that's what I did.. used a 32gb card
[6:35] <kookie> ok
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[6:36] <insomniPI> yeah, this is 32gb
[6:36] <kookie> cool
[6:37] <kookie> get about ten of them
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[6:37] <insomniPI> i just have the one arduino but i have a bunch of boards/accessories for it that I want to play with
[6:37] <insomniPI> i need a USB/hdmi mux
[6:38] <insomniPI> so i can have one keyboard & head hooked to ALL THE THINGS
[6:38] <kookie> yeh... I have one... and two parallax quickstarts, and Piface, and a homework board on top of Uno
[6:38] <insomniPI> or i guess I could just ssh -XA
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[6:39] <kookie> nah, make it independent, you will have better control over it
[6:42] <insomniPI> well. i could always remote into the pi is what I mean
[6:42] <insomniPI> if I have more than one of them that is.
[6:42] <insomniPI> I gave the other one to my boyfriend & he's playing with it.
[6:42] <insomniPI> just not on the same level yet.
[6:43] <kookie> I have four pi's on one monitor, kybd, and mouse
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[6:50] <insomniPI> that's pretty neat
[6:50] <insomniPI> what are you using to do it?
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[7:04] <insomniPI> oops
[7:06] <kookie> ahhh, I use a Rocketfish HDMI switch for the video, a KVM switcher for the kybd and mouse
[7:07] <kookie> both are 4 port.
[7:07] <insomniPI> i could just vnc to them
[7:09] <kookie> my 4 pi's are not the same.. each one is a diff ver...
[7:09] <insomniPI> orite
[7:10] <insomniPI> "We had .not. considered that, Dude."
[7:10] <kookie> one is original "A", another is "B", another is "B" ver 2, and last one is B+
[7:10] <insomniPI> and they could be different things. media server, etc
[7:10] <kookie> so,l kinda hard for me to VNC them
[7:10] <insomniPI> maybe not supporting vnc
[7:11] <insomniPI> yah, i wasn't thinking.
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[8:46] <hstl> Guys, sorry for stupid question, i am in a hurry. http://onpad.ru/shop/cubie/raspberrypi/Accessories/1791.html - this thing gives video from Raspberry Pi or takes video from composite camera?
[8:49] <ShorTie> it plays video from the pi to another device
[8:49] <hstl> from composite camera to Raspberry Pi
[8:49] <hstl> ShorTie, thank you! Are you sure?
[8:49] <ShorTie> pi basically has no video input, only output
[8:51] <hstl> yeah, figured it. Input is just for Raspberry Pi camera. Tahnk you!
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[9:50] <iobug> hi all
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[9:50] <iobug> any cheats to optimize my pi? I want to run youtube, my pi is with 512 MB RAM/ 700 Mhz one core
[9:53] <MiB> hi
[9:54] <MiB> iobug, it's good for youtube
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[10:03] <iobug> MiB: rendering on my TV is slow, loading of the pages is ...... @#$@#$#@$ .....
[10:03] <iobug> only the search engine is *fast* - loaded for one minute
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[10:05] <MiB> iobug, if loading the page is slow then you have internet connection in bad
[10:05] <Groggy> Youtube is a huge (heavy) site, try the mobile site and use youtube-dl and omxplayer as that will use the GPU to play the video
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[10:06] <iobug> connection is OK - apt-get download packages for more that 1 MByte/s
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[10:08] <MiB> iobug, did what Groggy said it's good idea
[10:11] <iobug> youtube-dl is cmd line prog. My daughter is only 2 yo and can not use it. In youtube she use FireFox on tablet, but I want to use the TV instead. Long distance is better for the eyes
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[10:12] <iobug> can i lower the hdmi resolution?
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[10:20] <iobug> how much is max overclock possible for pi? I see 1 Gh/s but may be is dangerous?
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[10:24] <ankr> "RPi 2 Model B" <<< That's the bleeding edge, right?
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[10:24] <ankr> Last time I looking into raspberri pis there were only model A and B, so many now.
[10:25] * ShorTie thinkz, not really, only 3
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[10:53] <Mafdet> Hello there.
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[10:55] <Mafdet> I know, this might be the wrong channel for this question - but the banana pi channel seems pretty silent. But any advice would be highly appreciated.
[10:55] <Mafdet> So here's the question: Can I use the Rasperry Pi OS (raspiab wheezy) on the Banana Pi, and therefore use Piracast on it?
[10:56] <Mafdet> If that's possible, why should I choose a Raspberry Pi (like the model B+) over a Banana Pi?
[10:57] <Armand> Apparently it will run Raspbian.
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[11:06] <shauno> usually the biggest selling point of the pi is the amount of support available for it. community, documentation, third-party hardware, etc. the fact that you had to come here for a banana question is a great example (and trying to run rpi-targetted software on a banana, etc ..)
[11:06] <shauno> the hardware itself probably won't win a race anymore, but the greater "ecosystem" is pretty stellar
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[11:12] <Mafdet> Yeah, I think the smaller power-consumption is surely a plus for the Raspberry Pi - especially for scenarios where it's always running, like some home-automation project or the like.
[11:13] <Mafdet> I'd simply get both if I weren't on a tight budget.
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[11:31] <Mafdet> shauno, and yeah, the support obviously is an even greater point. For example 'rPlay' is/was first developed for the Raspberry, even though the Banana Pi is more powerful.
[11:32] <Mafdet> I may be wrong, but the Raspberry Pi also seems to have better video acceleration support.
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[11:36] <PaowZ_> hi there ! Jessie img exceeds 4Gb once expanded.. Do we really need to get a sdcard over 4Gb of space ?
[11:37] * ShorTie thinkz, Only if you want to use that image
[11:38] <PaowZ_> I mean, it implies sdcard has to be 8Gb, is this the common size for a sdcard ?
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[11:39] <ShorTie> tis for the foundation
[11:39] <PaowZ_> "tis" ?
[11:39] <ShorTie> is with a t
[11:40] <PaowZ_> ok.
[11:40] <PaowZ_> ok, response was in the FAQ:
[11:40] <PaowZ_> 1. WHAT SIZE SD CARD DO I NEED?
[11:40] <PaowZ_> Whether you want to use the NOOBS installer or a standalone distro image, the minimum size SD card we recommend using is 8GB. This will give you the free space you need to install additional packages or make programs of your own. -SD Cards and Storage -Top
[11:40] <PaowZ_> sorry for bothering..
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[11:45] <ShorTie> No Problem
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[11:50] <ali1234> PaowZ_: 8GB
[11:51] <ali1234> it used to fit on 4GB, but not any more
[11:52] <ShorTie> it used to fit on 2GB, but not any more, lol
[11:52] <PaowZ_> tks ali1234
[11:53] <ShorTie> still does if you don't use all the extra stuff they put in it .. :/~
[11:53] <day> imo the raspbian image is going the wrong way. It should be minimalistic not bloated. installing stuff is simple
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[11:54] <Smasher> day or at least it would be nice to have a lite version
[11:54] <day> the current image is imho unusable. the arch rasp. image is much nicer
[11:54] <day> Smasher: or that yes.
[11:55] <ShorTie> lots of ways of get 'light' versions
[11:55] <ShorTie> even wrote my own mini-install script .. :)~
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[11:56] <day> i mean with everything that i need installed
[11:56] <day> /dev/root 15G 2.3G 12G 17% /
[11:56] <day> :P
[11:56] <ShorTie> mine can do it, my_pi_os, it's on github
[11:57] <ShorTie> uses apt-get to get everything, so it's easily configured
[11:57] <day> ShorTie: i dont feel so good by installing os tinkered together by random people, there could be god knows what in there
[11:58] <shiftplusone> official-ish minimal image: https://repo.xecdesign.com/tmp/2015-11-11-raspbian-jessie-noX.zip
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[11:58] <ShorTie> what ever, it's just a bash script, you can l00k at it all you want before runnin it
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[11:58] <day> ShorTie: ah ok. ithought its a complete img
[11:58] <ShorTie> or that ^^^
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[11:59] <ShorTie> na, it makes a sdcard or a image for ya
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[12:02] <edoderoo> is there a recommended OS for programming Python on the pi?
[12:02] <Smasher> maybe i should consider moving to archbian or how is it called
[12:02] <Smasher> arch rasp
[12:03] <Smasher> although i have no problems with space with my application so far
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[12:03] <MiB> Good evening ,
[12:04] <zigford> howdy
[12:04] <shiftplusone> edoderoo: any of them (aside from the media centre ones)
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[12:05] <edoderoo> okidoki ... then i will just pick the one I see first ;-)
[12:05] <shauno> I've been hitting space as a problem even with the wheezy images. with the compute module only having a 4GB eMMC, having stuff like sonic-pi on the image seem a little gratuitous
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[12:10] <Smasher> what's sonic-pi? :)
[12:10] <Smasher> is it a sega sonic? :)
[12:13] <shauno> some music sequencer type thing
[12:13] <shauno> you probably already have it installed, go play with it :)
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[12:25] <Smasher> shauno i dont have a gui :)
[12:25] <Smasher> cli only
[12:26] <dsc_> h4rdc0r3
[12:26] <Smasher> lol yeah :) true warrior
[12:26] <dsc_> xaxaxa))
[12:26] <Smasher> Ъ
[12:26] <dsc_> yes
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[12:28] <Smasher> i could use x11vnc but im too lazy :P
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[13:03] <edoderoo> so, it's gonna be Ubuntu Mate this time
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[13:09] <pksato> After read some text, and watch videos, about voltage level shift, all telling to avoid voltage divider, I decide to simulate some circuits.
[13:10] <gordonDrogon> pksato, avoid voltage dividers?
[13:11] <pksato> Two voltage divider, using low values resistors (10mA), and high values (1mA) http://i.imgur.com/L302HGH.jpg. Capacitor C1 and C2 are a estimated input capacitace.
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[13:12] <pksato> gordonDrogon: yes, on some text/video not recomend voltage divider as level shifter.
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[13:13] <gordonDrogon> ok
[13:13] <pksato> Using a compesation capacitor http://i.imgur.com/3dvCuCq.jpg
[13:13] <gordonDrogon> yes - I know from experience that at higher frequencies simple dividers start to to stop working. nice demonstration there though.
[13:14] <pksato> most text not mention input capacitance.
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[13:15] <pksato> 10MHz on these similations.
[13:15] <gordonDrogon> in Pi land most of the time you get away with it as not dealing with very high frequencies.
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[13:16] <gordonDrogon> adafuit sell a bi-directional converter thingy and they mention the high frequency thing there (IIRC)
[13:17] <gordonDrogon> http://www.adafruit.com/product/395
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[13:19] <pksato> at 100MHz http://i.imgur.com/MTn3ktL.png
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[13:19] <gordonDrogon> impressive.
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[13:20] <pksato> 1ns is rise/fall time of input signal.
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[13:29] <pksato> IMHO, 10mA voltage divider without compensation capacitor is acceptable above to 20MHz, up to 100MHz if delay is not critical.
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[14:14] <edoderoo> Ubuntu-Mate first run ... I'm excited!
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[14:40] <g105b> edoderoo: woohoo!
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[16:25] <edoderoo> I'm only missing sound
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[16:35] <edoderoo> i guess the sound is now on HDMI
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[16:37] <edoderoo> indeed
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[16:41] <edoderoo> but for some reason Ubuntu Mate only sees 4Gb of my 16Gb memory card ... need to figure out why
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[16:49] <MiB> edoderoo, ?
[16:50] <edoderoo> yes
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[17:18] <Groggy> edoderoo: have you followed the "after install" instruction on the mate webpage (there are some instruction for how to expand the filesystem to fit the memory card)
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[17:26] <edoderoo> no ... will do that now
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[17:29] <edoderoo> sudo fdisk /dev/mmcblk0
[17:29] <edoderoo> sudo resize2fs /dev/mmcblk0p2
[17:29] <edoderoo> that should do it ... according to the web page ... let me give it a shot
[17:29] <Groggy> It is the same thing as you do with the raspi-config on raspbian, but a bit more manual :)
[17:29] <edoderoo> and thanks for the tip ...
[17:29] <Groggy> Looks like you have found the correct page
[17:29] <Groggy> np
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[17:39] <edoderoo> rebooting ...
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[17:44] <Hasselsaurus> is raspi-config available on ubuntu for Pi? If not, is there a reason someone hasn't ported it?
[17:46] <edoderoo> Groggy ... that expanded it ... thanks again, now I have full benefit of my "investment" in 16Gb
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[17:55] <Groggy> Good to hear edoderoo. Hasselsaurus: I think it is on there to-do list
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[18:16] <Moonsilence> Hey, I can no longer quit a python process (interactive nor script mode) with ctrl-c like I was used to. It just adds ^C to whatever is beeing outputted by python. Dunno what I did.
[18:16] <Moonsilence> ctrl-c still works for all other commandline programs.
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[18:17] <nyt> probably handling sigint
[18:17] <nyt> try ctrl-\
[18:17] <nyt> or ctrl-z
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[18:21] <Moonsilence> Why does every python process run as a job now?
[18:23] <Moonsilence> nyt, with Ctrl-Z I was sending them to backgroud.
[18:23] <nyt> so then kill %1 or whatever the job no is
[18:23] <Moonsilence> I wand to ctrl-c them.
[18:23] <nyt> or try ctrl-\
[18:24] <nyt> check your app to see whats registering a handler for sigint, or catching the exception it raises when sent
[18:24] <Moonsilence> What could have caused this, that I can no longer ctrl-c python?
[18:24] <nyt> see what i just said
[18:24] <nyt> like poor exception handling
[18:25] <Moonsilence> It is not my app... it is every python process, even when just starting up interactive mode with 'python3' I can no longer ctrl-c
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[18:27] <nyt> pastebin the output of stty -a
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[18:28] <nyt> what happens when you hit ctrl-c just running python3?
[18:28] <nyt> do you get 'keyboardinterrupt' displayed?
[18:29] <Moonsilence> Yes, but next the python interactive command promt (>>>) reappears.
[18:30] <Moonsilence> nyt: https://bpaste.net/show/286df82dc19e
[18:30] <nyt> thats intended behavior
[18:30] <nyt> in an app that would raise an exception
[18:31] <nyt> and either the exception would cause the app to exit if unhandled
[18:31] <nyt> or if it was handled, you'd process arbitrarily
[18:31] <Moonsilence> Yes, but I used to be able to exit python with ctrl-c
[18:32] <nyt> interactively running python would not exit with ctrl-c
[18:32] <nyt> you can send eof with ctrl-d to have it exit
[18:32] <nyt> or ctrl-\ to send a sigabrt
[18:34] <Moonsilence> nyt, thanks for the help! It seems to be ok now.
[18:34] <Moonsilence> :9
[18:34] <nyt> np
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[18:36] <CharlesN> hi I'm running netbsd on a raspberry pi2 is it possible to migrate the root to a usb drive ?
[18:37] <myself> Boot no, root yes. https://learn.adafruit.com/external-drive-as-raspberry-pi-root/overview
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[18:37] <myself> https://www.google.com/search?q=rpi%20root%20on%20usb
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[18:38] <CharlesN> thanks
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[18:45] <CharlesN> all this tutorials assume you are running raspbian
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[18:45] <CharlesN> I'm using netbsd
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[18:48] <gordonDrogon> the principle will be the same - copy the entire SD card to the USB drive, then do whatever you need to do to tell BSD to mount root from the USB stick.
[18:49] <CharlesN> ok, thanks gordonDrogon
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[19:08] <Tenkawa> hi all
[19:08] <Berg> hello
[19:10] <exonormal> hi all, and hello...
[19:10] <IT_Sean> Ahoy.
[19:11] <Tenkawa> Anything new in rpi land?
[19:12] <exonormal> yeah, pi's still on store shelves
[19:12] <Tenkawa> exonormal: they are being bought here in our local computer store a lot more nowadays
[19:13] <Tenkawa> I have talked to many people who've needed info on them and then have bought one afterwards
[19:13] <exonormal> nice
[19:13] <exonormal> wish I could buy more of them
[19:13] <Tenkawa> yeah.. its made me much more optomistic
[19:13] <exonormal> I want the Pi-Top, a black one
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[19:14] <Tenkawa> I just wish my local shop carried emmcs
[19:14] <Tenkawa> i could really use a few of those cards
[19:14] <exonormal> oh? what are those?
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[19:15] <exonormal> ok
[19:16] <exonormal> try Element14.com?
[19:16] <exonormal> or Digikey?
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[19:17] <Tenkawa> exonormal: i meant locally
[19:18] <Tenkawa> I can get them online alot of places
[19:18] <Tenkawa> i get my pi2's locally though
[19:18] <exonormal> ok, sorry
[19:18] <Tenkawa> about 5 miles from here
[19:18] <exonormal> nice
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[19:18] <exonormal> have you looked at a ADALM1000 board?
[19:19] <Tenkawa> not aware of that one.. let me take a look
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[19:19] <Tenkawa> wrong type of device
[19:20] <exonormal> lol
[19:20] <Tenkawa> I'm using these for servers/general purpose machines
[19:20] <exonormal> I have one... it's like a mini o-scope
[19:20] <Tenkawa> not for io/project/embedded boards
[19:20] <exonormal> I see
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[19:21] <exonormal> I use Unos, Quickstarts, and homework boards..
[19:21] <Tenkawa> ahh
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[19:21] <Tenkawa> pi2's and beaglebone black currently here
[19:22] <exonormal> yes, I have 6 pi's and a ver 2 BBB
[19:22] <Tenkawa> 4 pi2's and 2 rev 2 bbbs
[19:22] <Tenkawa> (and some older ones somewhere)
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[19:23] <exonormal> I wanted to get another ver 1 A pi... but doubt it
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[19:25] <Tenkawa> never tried a A
[19:27] <exonormal> yeh, I was gunna get it cuz it's only one port USB and very low profile, and put it in a gutted Mac G3 lappy
[19:27] <Tenkawa> ahh
[19:27] <Tenkawa> hehehe
[19:28] <exonormal> but they sent aB ver 1
[19:28] <Tenkawa> ouch
[19:28] <exonormal> so I gave up on that project cuz I was so mad...
[19:29] <Tenkawa> ah
[19:29] <brethil> Has anybody had this problem using Jessie? Every time I restart my router (connected via ethernet on my raspberry pi), the pi crashes (?): it will not become reachable again and I have to hard reset it
[19:29] <brethil> this happens on two different pis
[19:29] <Tenkawa> anything on the console?
[19:29] <exonormal> not me?
[19:29] <brethil> nothing that gives any clue
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[19:31] <at0m> brethil: does your pi use dhcp for eth0? maybe the router gives it another IP?
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[19:32] <brethil> yeah, but it's not connected to the router
[19:32] <Tenkawa> at0m: would that hard lock the machine though?
[19:32] <brethil> after restarting the router it simply does not appear anymore in the device list
[19:32] <at0m> brethil: do you have physical keyb/mouse on the pi, or do you ssh in?
[19:32] <brethil> the only thing I noticed is that in the using the last command I see a "crash" entry
[19:33] <brethil> not sure if the pi really crashes or it's just because I unplug it
[19:33] <brethil> ssh
[19:33] <at0m> "not reachable" suggested you connect over the network
[19:33] <at0m> your pi is on the same network as the router right
[19:33] <brethil> Yeah, of course
[19:33] <at0m> try setting a static IP
[19:33] <Tenkawa> it could just be stopping ssh or the network
[19:33] <Tenkawa> does it stop taking pings?
[19:33] <at0m> or disable the router's DHCP server
[19:34] <brethil> well, the router assigns IPs based on MAC address
[19:34] <Tenkawa> or like he said assign it a static hard set ip
[19:34] <brethil> so the IP *should* be static
[19:34] <brethil> as long as it talks with the DHCP server
[19:34] <Tenkawa> brethil: not necessarily its connection state though
[19:34] <brethil> yeah
[19:34] <at0m> brethil: right, long as no other DHCP servers are on the same LAN
[19:34] <Tenkawa> thats why you should try forcing it u p
[19:35] <brethil> I just need to figure out a way to check if the pi actually crashes when the router is restarted or it simply doesn't get assigned an IP by the router
[19:35] <at0m> or set the other DHCP server to assign same IP to pi as the router's dhcpd
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[19:35] <brethil> other DHCP?
[19:35] <at0m> or try a network scan for your lan's IP range
[19:36] <at0m> brethil: i suspect there's conflict between 2 dhcp servers
[19:36] <brethil> I did the scan, there are no other IPs
[19:36] <at0m> hmmm
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[19:36] <brethil> my setup(s) are
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[19:36] <brethil> a Time Capsule (dhcp server) connected via ethernet to the pi
[19:36] <brethil> and another setup (different network)
[19:37] <brethil> pi connected to airport express (relay) which is connected to another airport express which acts as dhcp server
[19:37] <Tenkawa> cheers all
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[19:37] <at0m> so you got 3 dhcpd's? time capsule, airport express and your router?
[19:38] <at0m> either disable all but one, or set static IP on the pi. no IP thing can make the pi crash.
[19:38] <at0m> unreachable, maybe.
[19:39] <brethil> I'll try experimenting, though, would hard-unplugging the pi result in a "crash" entry in the "last" command?
[19:39] <at0m> brethil: you risk damaging your SD card
[19:39] <brethil> I know that
[19:40] <brethil> thanks anyway
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[19:41] <at0m> brethil: i'd try static ip, and i imagine your pi will remain connected to your ssh session.
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[19:41] <brethil> yeah, I'll try that
[19:41] <brethil> it seems weird because this did not happen before upgrading to jessie
[19:41] <brethil> but whatever
[19:41] <brethil> gotta jet
[19:41] <brethil> bye
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[20:20] <_Trullo> forgot my password to the raspberry pi, reinstall?
[20:21] <exonormal> yes if it is not the usual pw the pi came with
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[20:22] <_Trullo> sigh..
[20:23] <_Trullo> ok, gonna run xbmc on it, which is the recommended image for that?
[20:23] <exonormal> that I do not know, sorry..
[20:24] <exonormal> if you can, try what words you used as the pw before doing the reinstall..
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[20:43] <lindenk> hey, does anyone know of a linux board with a smaller form factor than the rpi?
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[20:45] <exonormal> the Gallio Intel board?
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[20:47] <IT_Sean> lindenk: Pi computer module?
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[20:49] <lindenk> like a smaller raspberry pi at possibly a higher cost and/or not as many features
[20:50] <IT_Sean> Yea... I know... I was suggesting it, in reply to your asking for something with a smaller footprint.
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[20:51] <pksato> lindenk: Its is big? http://www.open-electronics.org/nanopi2-incredible-tiny-raspi2-compatible-board-released/
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[20:56] <lindenk> pksato: wow that looks amazing and I'll definitely think about using it for future projects, but, more specifically for the project I'm working on, the ports I need are at least 1 usb, an ethernet port, and like ~12 I/Os
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[21:02] <TheLostAdmin> if you are willing to stray away from the Arm family of processors, intel has a few options that look like USB thumb drives with an HDMI header on one end.
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[21:08] <myself> TheLostAdmin: any of those have reasonable I/O option? I've seen HDMI computer-sticks but none with GPIO/UART/ADC/etc
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[21:10] <TheLostAdmin> I haven't looked in much detail. I don't need anything that small now that I have a Raspberry Pi. I do know those stick computers got a major upgrade due to competition from the Raspberry Pi and things like the chromebook on a usb stick things.
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[21:10] <TheLostAdmin> I took a quick look at Gumstix and they seam to have expanded their options as well.
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[21:10] <IT_Sean> lindenk: HAVE you looked at teh Pi Compute Module?
[21:11] <myself> yeah, the chrome/firetv sticks are tempting but it would such a hack to put I/O on 'em
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[21:16] <lindenk> IT_Sean: Oh, yeah I forgot about that, but then I'd need to make another board for it. It might be an option though, but not on top of the list
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[21:26] <frite> OK, so I have my camera up and running and I would like to make it visible for people otuside my home, how can I do so that someone from an external network can see the camera? right now it is on 192.168.XXX.XXX
[21:26] <lord4163> what happened to pidora and arch for the raspberry pi? It isn't on the download page anymore?
[21:27] <myself> frite: portforward.com
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[21:29] <exonormal> lord4163: try github?
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[21:35] <exonormal> lord4163: http://pidora.ca/
[21:37] <exonormal> lord4163: that's the best I can search for... good luck... otherwise ask other pi users to send you copies
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[21:37] <lord4163> exonormal: yeah, but wonder why it was removed from the download page
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[21:38] <lord4163> exonormal: maybe you have to get it through noobs
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[21:40] <exonormal> well, as demand drops, so does the downloads... so, only way to find them is to ask around or look in pigeek and download an old DVD in that site that has the distro...
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[21:43] <myself> I'd imagine there must be torrents still active, people will seed stuff forever
[21:43] <lord4163> so it is not supported anymore or what happened to it?
[21:45] <ShorTie> you get arch from arch, they do not athear to the foundations form of images any more or sumfin like that
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[21:46] <myself> Well this is lovely. I'm dealing with random data in my shift register on boot, and I figured there might've been noise happening on the SPI pins or something, but no, I just looked at it with a logic analyzer and there's only a single negative-going transition on CE2#, everything else is quiet the whole time.
[21:47] <myself> Soooo, I think I need a reset circuit.
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[21:48] <myself> Can I drive external circuits from the RUN signal on P6?
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[21:49] <frite> reb
[21:49] <frite> I have a TL-WN725N that I cannot use, i am missing the driver. What can i do
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[21:51] <frite> Direct firmware load for rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.b
[21:51] <frite> in failed with error -2
[21:51] <frite> [ 10.831569] r8188eu 1-1.5:1.0: Firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin not available
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[22:03] <frite> ERROR: The certificate of `dl.dropboxusercontent.com' is not trusted.
[22:03] <frite> The certificate has not yet been activated
[22:03] <frite> what do i do? i dont care if it is not trusted
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[22:07] <pksato> frite: wrong system time?
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[22:15] <frite> what?
[22:16] <frite> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ time
[22:16] <frite> real 0m0.000s
[22:16] <frite> user 0m0.000s
[22:16] <frite> sys 0m0.000s
[22:16] <frite> is that the problem you mean?
[22:16] <pksato> try date
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[22:28] <frite> how do i reboot the raspberry?
[22:29] <frite> i know there was reload command for it
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[22:30] <Karlton> shutdown -r 0
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[22:34] <gordonDrogon> sudo reboot or sudo init 6 or ... probably other ways like pull the plug, count to 5, put it back in again ...
[22:35] <edoderoo> might depend on the OS you run?
[22:35] <MiB> gordonDrogon, 100%
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[22:40] <frite> how do i set the date to today?
[22:40] <frite> it is february 2015 in my rasp
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[22:41] <paranic> frite: ntpdate time.apple.com
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[22:43] <Karlton> the rpi doesn't keep track of time when the power is off
[22:44] <Karlton> so might as well sync it with ntpdate each time it boots
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[22:46] <gordonDrogon> raspbian should include ntpd by default and auto-set the date once it has an internet connection...
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[22:46] <gordonDrogon> and if you need an ntp server, then use pool.ntp.org
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[22:47] <gordonDrogon> or one local to you, if possible - e.g. uk.pool.ntp.org for me.
[22:48] <Moonsilence> Why can't I use executable files in my ~/bin as commands in my own cronjobs? It only works on the commandline.
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[22:50] <gordonDrogon> cron won't have the $PATH set to your ~/bin
[22:51] <Moonsilence> But doesn't cron run all jobs as my user, and therefore is subject to my env vars?
[22:51] <gordonDrogon> it runs as your user, but doesn't run the .bashrc/.cshrc files.
[22:52] <gordonDrogon> see man 5 crontab
[22:52] <Moonsilence> thanks
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[23:02] <frite> so when I was connected via ethernet i could surf the internet with my raspberry but now i use wlan and i cannot, what could be the problem?
[23:03] <frite> i use the TL-WN725N
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[23:12] <frite> What do I change to get a conenction to internet and not just a local connection for my raspberry?
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[23:16] <gordonDrogon> probably your default route.
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