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IRC Log for 2015-12-13

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[0:17] <xargs> Where's the pie?
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[0:18] <xargs> Someone told me there would be punch and pie here.
[0:18] <bitanarchy> /dev/hwrnd produces 104kB/s of entropy but with /dev/hwrnd added to /etc/default/rng-tools, /dev/random produces only 33kB/s, why?
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[0:20] <bitanarchy> I mean /dev/hwrng
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[0:27] <SpeedEvil> it's presumably not fully trusting the hw rng
[0:27] <SpeedEvil> I assume you can adjust that somewhere, I don't know how to
[0:27] <SpeedEvil> 'entropy pool' settings
[0:27] <SpeedEvil> may be a useful search
[0:32] <TheSin> anyone know of a good fast place to have prototype boards made? Currently it's just a board but I'd like to eventually gotot he compute RPi so I'd be working towards that in the end
[0:36] <PiGuy> lol sargs
[0:36] <PiGuy> lol xargs
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[0:37] <PiGuy> Hello
[0:37] <PiGuy> How can I check if the HDMI is connected to my Raspberry Pi 2? I need to check on the Option Rotate, and Invert X and Y lines. They are labeled. Here's my code: http://hastebin.com/pawilapuca.vhdl
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[0:47] <JakeSays> djazz: hey
[0:47] <djazz> Hi
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[0:47] <JakeSays> so my strategy of a dedicated router won't work. i need internet access to set the clock :(
[0:48] <JakeSays> so i'm thinking of just putting all the cmds that work in a script and running it after boot
[0:48] <djazz> Ow :/
[0:48] <djazz> Okeeh
[0:48] <JakeSays> does wicd have a cli interface?
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[0:50] <at0m|c> JakeSays: sure, wicd-cli
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[0:51] <JakeSays> at0m|c: lol makes sense. thanks
[0:51] <ppq> i like ceni http://manual.aptosid.com/en/inet-ceni-en.htm
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[0:51] <ppq> just a perl script http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/aptosid/debian/pool/main/c/ceni/ceni_2.33_all.deb
[0:52] <JakeSays> i need something w/o a ui
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[0:56] <heller_> hey guys
[0:56] <heller_> im trying to turn pins high and low with gpio commands
[0:56] <heller_> having somewhat issues here
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[0:57] <heller_> i've got an external 12V supply and RPI
[0:57] <heller_> PSU and RPI GND is tied together
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[0:58] <heller_> and im trying gpio write pin 1/0
[0:58] <heller_> i did turn them as outputs
[0:58] <heller_> but gpio write 29 0 does nothing when i check the state with gpio read 29
[0:58] <heller_> gpio write 28 0/1 does change the value, but not working
[0:59] <mgottschlag> can you even read back the state when a pin is set as output?
[0:59] <mgottschlag> I'd rather test with a multimeter
[0:59] <pksato> 12V PSU?
[1:00] <heller_> pksato: yes
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[1:00] <heller_> mgottschlag: doing that also
[1:00] <mgottschlag> you didn't actually connect 12V anywhere, right?
[1:00] <heller_> shows 0V even if i can read its state to be 1
[1:00] <heller_> mgottschlag: ofc not
[1:00] <heller_> im trying to drive a logic level fet here
[1:00] <mgottschlag> yeah, okay, the information was worrying :)
[1:00] <heller_> i got you
[1:00] <heller_> but actually
[1:00] <mgottschlag> hm, maybe show some code
[1:00] <heller_> you know what
[1:00] <heller_> no code: P
[1:01] <mgottschlag> ah, wait
[1:01] <heller_> i think my problem is...
[1:01] <mgottschlag> you are just executing those command in a shell, hm
[1:01] <pksato> I think, 28 is not pin 28
[1:01] <heller_> that GPIO pin is not connected to anything :d
[1:01] <pksato> or 29
[1:01] <mgottschlag> yeah, you looked up the right pin on the gpio header, right?
[1:01] <heller_> yeah now it works
[1:02] <heller_> i had some weird issues first
[1:02] <heller_> i was using pin 29
[1:02] <heller_> last one in the row (physically)
[1:02] <heller_> its GPIO.29, BCM 21
[1:02] <heller_> i got it up, but not down
[1:02] <heller_> so i changed to GPIO.28
[1:02] <heller_> was not doing anything
[1:02] <heller_> guess the cable got off in the hassle
[1:03] <pksato> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/pins/
[1:03] <heller_> http://pastebin.com/UBnv85Eu
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[1:08] <methuzla> TheSin what country are you in?
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[1:08] <pksato> heller_: some pins are in use by special function, like spi, i2c, uart. etc/
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[1:08] <TheSin> Canada
[1:09] <norlevo> this forum seems broken; https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=73 (the android one)
[1:09] <norlevo> or is it something wrong with my webbrowser?
[1:10] <ppq> nope, same here
[1:10] <methuzla> TheSin try oshpark.com
[1:10] <TheSin> thanks methuzla I appreciate the lead
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[1:17] <methuzla> norlevo yes, not rendering correctly
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[1:19] <JakeSays> bah
[1:19] <JakeSays> wicd is confusing
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[1:22] <JakeSays> ah. light bulb over head went on.
[1:22] <at0m|c> JakeSays: we can't guess your problem with it
[1:23] <at0m|c> ok :)
[1:24] <JakeSays> at0m|c: wicd-curses doesnt display the network id of the wireless networks, so i didnt know what to use on the cmd line, but --list-networks has what i needed
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[1:28] <JakeSays> anyone know how to either start a script about 15 seconds after boot, or start and delay execution for 15 secs after boot?
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[1:29] <Scriptonaut> does anybody know the key to hit in raspbian to halt the bootloader?
[1:29] <Scriptonaut> I accidentally changed my shell to zsh and deleted zsh, so now I can't login as anybody (including root) because it can't find /usr/bin/zsh. I need a way to boot into single user mode
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[1:32] <heller_> how do you guys suggest to edit raspberry pi files in windows?
[1:32] <heller_> im thinking of notepad++ or sublime with winscp to access files
[1:32] <heller_> but winscp keeps removing the temporary files
[1:33] <methuzla> heller_ putty (ssh for windows) and vi
[1:33] <heller_> i used nano alot
[1:33] <heller_> but i like notepad++ or sublime more
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[1:33] <heller_> i like to use mouse, and to have umm whats it called
[1:33] <heller_> automatic filling
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[1:34] <methuzla> remote mount the pi, use whatever you want on windows
[1:34] <duckpuppy> Atom is a good choice for editor as well. I moved from Sublime to Atom a while back.
[1:34] <heller_> methuzla: would need samba on the raspberry pi
[1:35] <heller_> wondering with the winscp, it should remove files only on exit
[1:35] <heller_> not in the middle of editing them
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[1:35] <methuzla> that's how i've done it (samba), may be other ways
[1:36] <PiGuy> Hello pksato thanks for your help yesterday, I was able to look at the article you sent and solve my problem! :D
[1:36] <PiGuy> Hello Everyone
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[1:37] <duckpuppy> Atom has a plugin for remote edit via FTP/SFTP(SSH) https://atom.io/packages/remote-edit - I'm sure Sublime does as well.
[1:37] <PiGuy> How can I check if the HDMI is connected to my Raspberry Pi 2? I need to check on the Option Rotate, and Invert X and Y lines. They are labeled. Here's my code: http://hastebin.com/pawilapuca.vhdl
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[1:39] <heller_> duckpuppy: well.. thanks but i wont do atom here
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[1:44] <PiGuy> Hello pksato are you there?
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[1:46] <reubenabrams> If I put my Raspberry Pi Wi-Fi access point under heavy load (copy large files, stream media, etc.), something causes it to fail silently. The DHCPOFFER/DHCPDISCOVER entries in /var/log/messages stop showing up; the clients cannot send or receive data to/from the access point; the clients don’t realize the connection has dropped. It’s odd. If I restart networking and hostapd, the Wi-Fi hotspot service isn’t restored
[1:46] <reubenabrams> Might be an issue w/ isc-dhcp-server. Still, it would be nice to figure out (a) how to make the R.Pi detect its own banjaxed status and (b) how to fix it without rebooting.
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[1:49] <at0m|c> reubenabrams: dhcp server doesn't come into play until lease expires. power issue maybe.
[1:50] <at0m|c> rpi2 starts blinking power light when voltage drops too low
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[1:51] <heller_> what do you guys suggest on an interface. i need a way to control value up or down. potentiometer would be the most common way, but raspberry pi not supporting ADC, i cant do it
[1:51] <reubenabrams> *nodding* The Wi-Fi adapter runs on a powered USB hub, but perhaps the Pi’s PSU is flaky. I’ve ever seen the red LED flicker, but I’ll keep an eye open for it. Thanks for the suggestion. BTW, is there a way to detect when hostapd has failed? I’m poking around in the documentation at the moment.
[1:51] <heller_> what other ways is ther?
[1:51] <heller_> two buttons up/down
[1:51] <heller_> what else?
[1:51] <reubenabrams> heller_: potentiometer? (sp)
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[1:52] <reubenabrams> heller_: https://learn.adafruit.com/reading-a-analog-in-and-controlling-audio-volume-with-the-raspberry-pi/overview
[1:52] <heller_> yeah external ADC is a way
[1:52] <heller_> but without it
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[1:55] <heller_> why cant the raspberry pi have even one ADC?
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[1:56] <reubenabrams> heller_: How about a USB-based switch or set of switches?
[1:56] <heller_> what?
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[1:59] <reubenabrams> heller_: http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/48565/using-lots-of-slide-potentiometer-for-computer-control
[2:01] <heller_> nononono
[2:01] <heller_> totally wrong road
[2:02] <heller_> i want one or two ADC:s
[2:02] <heller_> basically one for potentiometer or LDR
[2:02] <heller_> OR totally different solution to get my raspberry pi up/down buttons
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[2:09] <Scriptonaut> .wc
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[2:09] <reubenabrams> g2g
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[2:22] <JakeSays> what the heck wicd network ids are not consistent.
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[2:32] <PiGuy> Any scripters here? Or Programmers?
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[2:35] <JakeSays> so to determine the network id of the ssid i want to connect to i'm going to have to do some voodoo script crap
[2:35] <JakeSays> wtf
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[2:36] <Berg> PiGuy: lots
[2:36] <methuzla> irc != internet relay complain
[2:36] <Berg> heheh
[2:36] <PiGuy> Berg: Great :), could you help me with this? How can I check if the HDMI is connected to my Raspberry Pi 2? I need to check on the Option Rotate, and Invert X and Y lines. They are labeled. Here's my code: http://hastebin.com/pawilapuca.vhdl
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[2:37] <Berg> i code in python sorry
[2:37] <Berg> :)
[2:38] <PiGuy> Berg: It's alright thanks anyway. I'm a C++ guy
[2:38] <PiGuy> and also a PiGuy
[2:38] <Berg> yes they are here too
[2:38] <PiGuy> sweet
[2:39] <Berg> you need to ask your question in the first instance to get a real reply
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[2:45] <PiGuy> Berg: Wjat do you mean by first instance?
[2:45] <PiGuy> *What
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[2:46] <Berg> what is you first post?
[2:46] <Berg> that is the first instance
[2:46] <PiGuy> Berg: My first post is "How can I check if the HDMI is connected to my Raspberry Pi 2? I need to check on the Option Rotate, and Invert X and Y lines. They are labeled. Here's my code: http://hastebin.com/pawilapuca.vhdl"
[2:46] <PiGuy> After I said Hello
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[2:47] <Berg> ooo i must have missed that bit i saw are there any coders post
[2:47] <Berg> sorry my bad
[2:47] <Berg> i just was trying to be helpfull
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[2:48] <PiGuy> Berg: It's alright, thanks man :)
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[3:13] <JakeSays> methuzla: tonight i tis :p
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[4:02] <PiGuy> Hello
[4:03] <PiGuy> How can I do something specifically if HDMI is not connected?
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[4:03] <PiGuy> I am using a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B running Raspbian without NOOBS
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[4:07] <SirLagz> PiGuy: use SSH?
[4:08] <PiGuy> SirLagz: How would I do that
[4:08] <SirLagz> PiGuy: or do you mean 'how do you do something only when HDMI is not connected' ?
[4:08] <PiGuy> SirLagz: I am trying to flip the X window if the HDMI is connected.
[4:08] <SirLagz> PiGuy: why are you trying to flip the X Window?
[4:09] <PiGuy> SirLagz: I have to do this since I needed to flip the LCD I have so the ports were on the top since they were defaultly on the bottom. So when I flipped it to account for the LCD it also flippeed the HDMI which was correct. Now I need to flip the HDMI back.
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[4:10] <SirLagz> PiGuy: display_rotate=2 in /boot/config.txt ?
[4:10] <PiGuy> SirLagz: Basically I wanted the HDMI port to be on top of the PI so I flipped the X window but the HDMI was in the correct orientation. Now I need to flip it back when HDMI is plugged in.
[4:10] <SirLagz> PiGuy: is this a tablet that you're building or something?
[4:11] <PiGuy> SirLagz: :| Lol Why didn't I think of that. Thanks! :D
[4:11] <SirLagz> PiGuy: NP
[4:11] <PiGuy> :D
[4:12] <PiGuy> SirLagz: I am hooking my Raspberry Pi to a LCD Screen. Then I can use the touch screen instead of a mouse and keyboard
[4:12] <SirLagz> PiGuy: cool
[4:13] <PiGuy> thanks
[4:14] <PiGuy> SirLagz: Would you happen to know a way of using HDMI output and LCD screen output at the same time with the Raspberry Pi?
[4:15] <SirLagz> PiGuy: I know it's possible, not sure how though sorry
[4:15] <PiGuy> SirLagz: Alright thanks anyway
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[4:22] <JakeSays> djazz: holy crap - wicd was working all along. problem was it will default to eth0 if its available, and not init wifi. i removed eth0 from its config and it all workie
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[4:33] <MrZhi> Anyone have novel ideas or overcoming the power drop for an RPi 2 + GPS Hat + USB wireless card, with attenna attached while in promiscuous mode?
[4:34] <methuzla> better power supply, better power supply cable, usb_max_current=1
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[4:52] <JakeSays> djazz: yay! its finally working. only thing i had to do was add a if-up.d script to disable power
[4:52] <JakeSays> djazz: thank you so much for your help :)
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[5:07] <conor_f> Hey guys, whenever I plug in my wifi dongle I get a kernel panic - could that be because it draws too much power?
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[5:10] <giddles> bigger sd cards
[5:10] <giddles> can someone recommend me some?
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[5:11] <PiGuy> Hello
[5:12] <PiGuy> How can I force HDMI output when HDMI is connected?
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[5:14] <conor_f> man xrandr
[5:14] <methuzla> PiGuy try hdmi_force_hotplug http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#Video
[5:14] <conor_f> iirc the command is sudo xrandr --output HDMI1 --display auto
[5:16] <methuzla> conor_f are you powering it up with the dongle in?
[5:16] <conor_f> yeah
[5:17] <methuzla> does it boot ok without it?
[5:17] <conor_f> kernel panics at a certain point
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[5:18] <conor_f> And it also doesn't seem to recognize it's plugged in via ethernet which is annoying
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[5:19] <methuzla> so you are getting kernel panics even WITHOUT the wifi dongle plugged in?
[5:20] <conor_f> oh, sorry. Misread that
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[5:20] <conor_f> It boots fine without the dongle in, panics when it is in
[5:21] <methuzla> describe your setup. pi model. os. power supply. anything else attached. etc.
[5:23] <conor_f> Pi Model B, Raspbian Jessie Lite, power supply is some phone charger I found, only other thing is a USB keyboard but that's not attached
[5:24] <methuzla> yeah, could be power.
[5:24] <PiGuy> methuzla: It didn't work. I am using a touch screen which is using the fbtft drivers if that helps.
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[5:25] <PiGuy> methuzla: I would like it so that when the HDMI is plugged in then display is sent to the HDMI as well as the LCD screen. When HDMI is not plugged in it is only sent to the LCD screen,
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[5:25] <PiGuy> The LCD screen is connected to the pi on the GPIO headers.
[5:25] <PiGuy> methuzla: ^^
[5:26] <methuzla> PiGuy sorry. don't know how to do that.
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[5:30] <PiGuy> methuzla: Ah alright, thanks anyway
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[5:40] <PiGuy> How can I force HDMI output when HDMI is connected? I would like it so when the HDMI is plugged in I get output to the LCD and the HDMI. I would like the HDMI to be allowed to be plugged in at any time, not just boot up. I am using a touch screen which is using the fbtft drivers if that helps.
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[8:40] <irc_smirk> hello
[8:40] <irc_smirk> can someone suggest a way to use a pi to setup a temporary email type server
[8:40] <irc_smirk> like throwaway email addresses or aliases that forward to my regular mail
[8:41] <AiGreek> 'Morning guys !
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[9:12] <t3chguy> irc_smirk: a lot of isps block port 25 which is required for mail
[9:12] <t3chguy> And iredmail.org
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[9:14] <irc_smirk> ok thanks
[9:14] <ShorTie> or you need a commercial account
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[9:28] <irc_smirk> anyone using docker on pi?
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[9:34] <sedition> irc_smirk: I have.
[9:35] <sedition> It works well
[9:35] <sedition> very little overhead
[9:36] <irc_smirk> on which pi?
[9:36] <dreamon> Want to loggin als root. Is it possible to activate so I can connect via ssh as root
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[9:38] * ShorTie Thinkz, sure "sed -i 's/PermitRootLogin without-password/PermitRootLogin yes/' /etc/ssh/sshd_config" + reboot
[9:38] <dreamon> ShorTie, THANKS!!
[9:39] <ShorTie> No Problem
[9:40] <irc_smirk> sedition pi 2 required?
[9:41] <sedition> I've not used it on anything but a Pi2
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[9:41] <irc_smirk> sedition ok. any gotchas?
[9:41] <irc_smirk> like is the arm processor an issue?
[9:41] <sedition> Not really!. I've been meaning to compile a more recent version, but 1.3(i think?) is in the raspbian repos
[9:41] <sedition> Nope!
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[9:42] <sedition> I have it running a packaged version of kali for penetration testing
[9:42] <sedition> it OOMs when you would expect it to for being a Pi
[9:42] <sedition> docker doesnt seem to be the issue :P
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[9:44] <sedition> irc_smirk: regarding your email question, i believe you can set up pretty simple forwarding with postfix, but i dont have any docs on it
[9:46] <irc_smirk> thanks
[9:47] <irc_smirk> so with docker i could for example
[9:47] <irc_smirk> setup a rest api to a perl script i find
[9:47] <irc_smirk> and not worry about all the crap i have to install to get it to work?
[9:48] <irc_smirk> i mean. not mess up my pi install?
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[9:50] <sedition> irc_smirk: With docker you have images and container. An image is like a base ubuntu install, and a container is an instance of that image. You can commit images much like a git repository
[9:50] <sedition> so yes, you could tinker without messing up your install
[9:50] <sedition> there are images for just about everything
[9:50] <irc_smirk> and i can develop on my laptop and just put tha timage on the pi if i want to host it on my home wifi?
[9:51] <sedition> hmm
[9:51] <sedition> let me test, they might be constrained by arch
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[9:53] <sedition> yeah looks like if you created it on your machine and shipped it over, it would be x64 and wouldnt work on arm
[9:53] <irc_smirk> hrmok
[9:54] <irc_smirk> well either way its ubuntu or whatever that is the common base
[9:55] <irc_smirk> btw if anyone is interested
[9:55] <irc_smirk> there is a 6 month free membership on pluralsight right now
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[9:55] <irc_smirk> no credit card yada yada offered by microsoft
[9:55] <irc_smirk> lots of great videos there on everything
[9:57] <irc_smirk> http://www.troyhunt.com/2015/12/get-more-awesome-pluralsight-content.html
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[10:33] <foormea> hey. any suggestions of what i could do with a raspberry pi 1 b+ that's sitting there doing nothing? i have no accessories but i have a wifi dongle. i'm thinking of running a local dns server
[10:34] <aaearon> what do you need
[10:34] <foormea> i need nothing :D
[10:35] <foormea> running a tor relay uses too much traffic for my connection
[10:35] <foormea> just trying to find a use to my raspberry
[10:37] <irc_smirk> web scrapping
[10:37] <foormea> what's that?
[10:37] <irc_smirk> sucks up webpages and pulls whatever you want from them
[10:38] <irc_smirk> so job posting, craig list posts, news, weather, etc
[10:38] <foormea> why would i need a raspberry for that?
[10:39] <foormea> i mean, it's not something that would run in the background
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[11:50] <mgottschlag2> hey, anybody sees anything wrong with this alsa config? http://codepad.org/DFxWePkY
[11:51] <mgottschlag2> I have the problem that e.g. "amixer -D default scontrols" does not show any controls, whereas "amixer -D dmixer scontrols" does
[11:52] <mgottschlag2> but I'd like the hardware volume controls to be passed through somehow
[11:52] <mgottschlag2> and I thought a plug would just pass any controls through
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[11:54] <mgottschlag2> (oh, btw, buildroot-based system)
[11:55] <TheRinger> if any of you use influxdb and graphana, here is something for you https://gist.github.com/tytek2012/3a8fb8e6fcfc4dc6a450
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[12:14] <ghormoon> hi, did anyone here try lte dongle in raspi and got speed better than 15/5? did you use wvdial to connect or what?
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[13:03] <filthy_peasant> hey guys
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[13:03] <filthy_peasant> how important is a good understanding of python when programming raspberry pi
[13:04] <SpeedEvil> Not at all.
[13:04] <Xenthys> if you don't plan to use Python, it's not important to have a good understanding of it, otherwise it's like any programming project, understand the fire before playing with it
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[13:04] <SpeedEvil> Python is one of a hundred or so languages perhaps.
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[13:05] <SpeedEvil> you could use to program the pi.
[13:05] <SpeedEvil> It is more popular than many.
[13:05] <SpeedEvil> But it is no more needed than magnolia paint is needed to decorate a horse.
[13:05] <SpeedEvil> house.
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[13:06] <H__> I use Python, Perl, C and Bash for programming on the PI :)
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[13:07] <Encrypt> Bash <3
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[13:19] <gordonDrogon> there's always BASIC too... :)
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[13:25] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, And COBOL :P
[13:25] <gordonDrogon> even apl ...
[13:25] <Encrypt> Compiled with cobc :D
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[13:36] <BeBored> gordonDrogon: Hi, you wrote me something about crontab and i only want to let you know that i did what you mentioned and i want to thank you :)
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[13:38] <gordonDrogon> glad its going!
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[14:16] <ghormoon> hi, what's wrong if I have 4.x kernel and I an find only 3.x headers? is it renamed or something?
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[14:20] <AiGreek> Do you think i can use a computer power supply for my Pi (2) ?
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[14:22] <[Saint]> Yes.
[14:22] <ozzzy> Awful big supply for a small computer
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[14:23] <AiGreek> it's not only for the Pi and only for test, but thank
[14:23] <AiGreek> +s
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[14:46] <AndreeeCZ> hi! So RPi has a very slow storage (sd card) and a comparatively much faster CPU, hence the bottleneck is clearly on the i/o side. Wouldn't it make sense then to use a filesystem with heavy on-the-fly compression?
[14:46] <mortal> sure
[14:46] <mortal> if you have the 4 core version
[14:49] <[Saint]> you'd probably be a lot better off just putting / on NAND based USB storage.
[14:50] <[Saint]> as long as you're not absolutely hammering both network and USB at the same time it won't backfire any worse than sd access already is.
[14:51] <[Saint]> ...and it is really trivial to deploy.
[14:52] <[Saint]> really really trivial.
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[14:57] <gordonDrogon> AiGreek, just use a USB lead from your desktop/laptop to power a Pi if you have that already going...
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[14:58] <ozzzy> I generally powered my Pi2 from a USB3 port
[14:58] <AiGreek> gordonDrogon yes that's what i'll do...it's simpler
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[15:00] * [Saint] notes that this shouldn't work for any spec-following ports
[15:00] <mgottschlag2> I don't think I have seen a spec-following port so far :D
[15:00] <[Saint]> but, hilariously, it almost certainly will - because apparently USB spec just plain doesn't matter.
[15:00] <[Saint]> heh, indeed mgottschlag2
[15:01] <mgottschlag2> I've had overcurrent warnings on Windows 1-2 times actually, but I don't remember anything else happened
[15:01] <[Saint]> in the perfect world it should absolutely refuse to give out any more than 100mA
[15:01] <[Saint]> even if its a dedicated charge port.
[15:01] <[Saint]> in the practical world - hahahahahahahaha!
[15:02] <ozzzy> USB3 delivered enough current to run the Pi2 with a 320MB platter drive, 16G usb stick, wifi dongle and kbd/mouse dongle plugged in
[15:02] <[Saint]> that's disgusting.
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[15:02] <[Saint]> uuugh.
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[15:04] <[Saint]> anything that doesn't enumerate or pass any of the magic resistence values shouldn't be getting any more than 100mA by my (and many other's) reading of the specification.
[15:05] <gordonDrogon> price beats specification any day ...
[15:05] <[Saint]> sadly, yes.
[15:05] <gordonDrogon> if you're lucky the PC/Laptop has a polyfuse...
[15:05] <mgottschlag2> the worst thing which could happen is that a device forces the computer to reset because the voltage drops too much
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[15:05] <mgottschlag2> which isn't that problematic most of the time
[15:06] <mgottschlag2> voltage regulators are pretty much universally short-circuit proof
[15:06] <[Saint]> In well built hardware, yes.
[15:06] <ozzzy> http://www.togastro.com/ozzzy/images/pi2.jpg
[15:06] <ruurd> ozzzy that's dangerous
[15:06] <ozzzy> why
[15:06] <mgottschlag2> okay, well, yeah, there are exceptions
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[15:06] <mgottschlag2> probably pretty much every 25$ ATX power supply
[15:07] <[Saint]> I've pulled apart some downright lethal ATX supplies.
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[15:07] <[Saint]> Like, legitimately lethal.
[15:07] <gordonDrogon> I think this is more frankenpower :-) https://projects.drogon.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/b+power.jpg
[15:08] <[Saint]> Like, 1 mm and a single layer of paper tape between you and 240V mains supply.
[15:08] <[Saint]> Or backwards pos/neg/ground leads.
[15:09] <[Saint]> or ground completely nonexistent.
[15:09] <ruurd> ozzzy that's how much? A full A that you're drawing?
[15:09] <[Saint]> ruurd: at least.
[15:09] <[Saint]> probably more at spinup.
[15:09] <gordonDrogon> I worked on some 1U cases a whiel back that had open frame PSUs... accidentally reached over one to check a usb 3g dongle and touched a heatsink inside the PSU - I think it was on the input rectifier, so got 250V DC over my hand. Ouch.
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[15:10] <[Saint]> gordonDrogon: heh - I had a kid come in and discover bus bars for the first time the hard way.
[15:10] <[Saint]> that was amusing.
[15:10] <ruurd> Oh! Blinkenlights!
[15:10] <ozzzy> ruurd, no clue. I didn't put it on the dmm
[15:12] <[Saint]> with the wireless dongle at full broadcast, and making the lowest assumption about the HDD, that's a full amp there alone.
[15:12] <[Saint]> discounting the pi entirely.
[15:13] <ozzzy> hey... it ran just fine
[15:13] <[Saint]> it shouldn't, and the fact that it does is problematic and dangerous.
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[15:41] <thanius> Hi, I'm having trouble using apt-get on my model A
[15:41] <thanius> It crashes almost immediately.
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[15:43] <thanius> It's a fresh install with only SSH being enabled
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[15:51] <AndreeeCZ> mortal, [Saint] i See. So USB flash drive + compressed FS is the way to go?
[15:51] <[Saint]> I wouldn't bother with compression at all.
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[15:51] <mortal> with 4 cores
[15:52] <mortal> 1 core for software, 1 for io, 2 free
[15:52] <[Saint]> even then, I sincerely doubt it would make a realistic difference.
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[15:53] <AndreeeCZ> is there some SD card with NAND?
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[15:56] <[Saint]> Yes. All of them.
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[16:04] <[Saint]> access isn't ever going to be faster than USB 2 allows for. might pay to keep that in mind.
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[16:07] <[Saint]> it's not even really going to be close to what USB 2 allows for on paper.
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[16:27] <thejman> Hi
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[16:35] <thejman> So I'm sort of new to programming...would a raspberry pi be to complicated for me?
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[16:35] <Nightcinder> i mean..that entirely depends if you're writing your own software
[16:35] <ppq> thejman, no, it's really simple, thanks to the docs
[16:36] <Nightcinder> if you don't write your own software
[16:36] <Nightcinder> you don't have to program :)
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[16:38] <thejman> Well I want to take AP CompSci next year (I'm in intro to CompSci this semester and I'll be taking Advanced CompSci next semester) so I'm thinking this might be a nice thing for me to tinker around with
[16:38] <mlelstv> jman, what do you think will be less complicated?
[16:38] <Nightcinder> lol
[16:39] <ttys0> thejman : That partly depends on what language and tools they're going to be using for the class. For example, you probably don't want to run Eclipse on a Pi.
[16:39] <thejman> ttys0: We are taking a course called CS50
[16:40] <thejman> ttys0: We use C
[16:40] <thejman> ttys0: I'm sure there are some basic compilers i can use for that
[16:40] <thejman> **IDEs
[16:41] <ttys0> thejman : Good deal. GCC and a text editor should get you far. :)
[16:41] <thejman> ttys0: I'm thinking this. http://www.amazon.com/Vilros-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Edimax/dp/B00MV6TAJI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1450020584&sr=8-4&keywords=wifi+adapter+for+raspberry+pi
[16:41] <Nightcinder> just don't try to compile on a rpi
[16:42] <Nightcinder> that seems overly expensive
[16:42] <thejman> Nightcinder: Really? It got lots of good reviews and it comes witha whole lot of stuff i would need anyway
[16:42] <ttys0> Nightcinder : It shouldn't be bad for school projects. I do it to build Arch Linux packages, and it works fine. I just don't expect it to complete in five minutes.
[16:42] <doomlord> will the RPi ever get OpenCL. What about SPIR-V
[16:43] <Nightcinder> it has an sdcard, an rpi, a cheap case, a wifi adapter, and an hdmi cable
[16:44] <ttys0> thejman : I would onsider picking up a bigger SD card.
[16:44] <Nightcinder> and a power adapter
[16:44] <ttys0> *consider
[16:44] <Nightcinder> lol @ heatsinks
[16:44] <thejman> Yeah I was gonna get this with it: http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-microSD-Memory-Reader-FCR-MRB/dp/B000V5G4TK
[16:44] <ttys0> Nightcinder : yeah, that's a bit of a laugh
[16:44] <Nightcinder> rpi too hot to handle clearly
[16:44] <thejman> ^oh with the 32 GB microsd
[16:45] <Nightcinder> i'd probably buy a power adapter from china honestly
[16:45] <ttys0> thejman : don't get a USB reader, get an actual MicroSD card
[16:45] <Nightcinder> http://www.amazon.com/EEEKit-Raspberry-Cooling-MicroSDHC-Bluetooth/dp/B00VR2DW5U/ref=sr_1_10?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1450021496&sr=1-10&keywords=raspberry+pi+2 this one is even better ttys0
[16:45] <Nightcinder> it has a cooling fan.
[16:45] <thejman> ttys0: I was gonna get the reader *with* a microsd
[16:45] <thejman> ttys0: So i could adjust things on my actual PC
[16:46] <mlelstv> heatsinks, so that you learn what is important for a real computer
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[16:46] <thejman> Nightcinder: thanks! ill look into that one. definetly more affordable
[16:46] <Nightcinder> really you only need a wifi adapter, sd card, power adapter
[16:46] <Nightcinder> thejman: lol i was joking
[16:46] <Nightcinder> don't get that
[16:46] <ttys0> thejman : The USB bus is the weakest link in the Pi. The fewer different storage devices you have plugged in the better of you are. For accessing your Pi data use either NFS, or SSHFS, or WebDAV
[16:46] <Nightcinder> that doesn't come with an rpi
[16:46] <ttys0> Nightcinder : LOL, nice one
[16:47] <Nightcinder> for accessing your pi period you should be using ssh :p
[16:47] <mlelstv> I am using a keyboard
[16:47] <thejman> Ok. So i need an rpi, a wireless adapter, power supply, case, and mircrosd...right?
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[16:48] <Nightcinder> you don't 'need' a case
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[16:48] <Nightcinder> they're just nice to have
[16:48] <thejman> Nightcinder: I'd prefer one. Seems fragile to me.
[16:48] <ttys0> you don't need a wireless adapter unless you don't have wired ethernet available
[16:48] <Nightcinder> i'd probably get the case and power supply from china
[16:48] <Nightcinder> aliexpress
[16:49] <ttys0> if possible, hook up the wired ethernet
[16:49] <thejman> ttys0: It would be in my bedroom so i need the wireless adapter
[16:49] <ttys0> thejman : fair enough
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[16:50] <thejman> Alright so for all of those things what would be a reasonable price?
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[16:51] <Nightcinder> i mean, if you *really* wanted to go all out
[16:51] <Nightcinder> https://www.adafruit.com/products/2380
[16:51] <ttys0> I would guess ~70-75 US dollars. Depending on how much you care about a case, it could bump it up some more.
[16:52] <ttys0> adafruit has some good barebones kits too. they're usually not the cheapest available, but within five dollars. that's usually the first place i go anymore.
[16:52] <Nightcinder> https://www.adafruit.com/products/2391 the only one i see in stock atm
[16:53] <Nightcinder> seems the majority of their packs are out of stock
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[16:54] <mlelstv> jman, what kind of programming do you expect to do that you cannot do on your regular PC ?
[16:55] <Nightcinder> https://www.adafruit.com/products/2258 also this is a pretty solid case if you want one from 'murica
[16:56] <thejman> mlelstv: I'm not sure. Your question kinda stopped me in my tracks.
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[16:56] <Nightcinder> what do you want to do with the rpi
[16:56] <Nightcinder> i feel like you might be looking more for an arduino
[16:56] <Nightcinder> something you can program to do things
[16:57] <ali1234> arduino sucks, but a raspberry pi makes a really nice arduino IDE
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[16:57] <Nightcinder> i like my arduino, it does things that rpi can't
[16:58] <mlelstv> I see two kinds of users. Those that make the RPI a kind of desktop and those that use it to control and play with other hardware, not necessarily distinct.
[16:58] <ali1234> arduino can only do things that a raspberry pi can't if you chuck away the whole arduino library and use avr-libc instead. then it becomes a decent avr dev board...
[16:58] <Nightcinder> i used my arduino as a serial connection
[16:59] <averybunker> Good Morning Everyone, was seeing if I could get help with a tutorial I was following here and if anyone has gotten this working on their RP2 http://www.valvers.com/open-software/raspberry-pi/step01-bare-metal-programming-in-cpt1/
[16:59] <Nightcinder> i haven't actually used my uno to do arduino things
[16:59] <averybunker> I put the steps here that I did, but I am missing something, https://gist.github.com/averybunker/9fb7a92e422a808dc949
[16:59] <sewerrat> rpi>arduino
[16:59] <Nightcinder> just as a tri-state serial connection to fix my router
[16:59] <mlelstv> http://serpens.de/~mlelstv/rpi.jpg
[16:59] <Nightcinder> which rpi can't do :p
[16:59] <ali1234> of course it can
[16:59] <thejman> I'm not really interested in robotics
[16:59] <Nightcinder> with a lot more monies
[17:00] <Nightcinder> no one here said robotics
[17:00] <mlelstv> jman, for robotics $70 won't do :)
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[17:00] <ali1234> averybunker: hang on...
[17:01] <ali1234> averybunker: which raspberry pi?
[17:01] <ttys0> I don't really use mine with a monitor, though I do have one hooked up to one of them on the stack. https://rpi.ttys0.net/misc/StackOfPis.jpg
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[17:01] <averybunker> @ali1234 to the Raspberry Pi 2 Model B V1.1
[17:01] <mlelstv> http://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/mlelstv/unicornhat.jpg
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[17:02] <ali1234> averybunker: that tutorial is out of date and blinks the wrong GPIO
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[17:02] <ali1234> averybunker: for a similar bare metal blinker demo that works on 2B and B+ see https://github.com/dwelch67/raspberrypi/tree/master/beeplus
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[17:03] <Nightcinder> i will my using my arduino to make ambient lighting behind my monitor
[17:04] <Nightcinder> that's the extent of my plan so far
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[17:04] <Nightcinder> i could probably do that with an rpi, but meh
[17:04] <thejman> What exactly is wrong with this http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-WiFi/dp/B008XVAVAW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1450022588&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=raspberry+pi+2&psc=1 ?
[17:04] <Nightcinder> hey another heatsink
[17:05] <ali1234> thejman: nothing really. the heatsink is useless
[17:05] <thejman> But I mean is it too expensive?
[17:05] <thejman> Like overpriced?
[17:05] <mlelstv> jman, except for the useless heatsinks, it's fine.
[17:05] <ali1234> nah price is reasonable
[17:05] <Nightcinder> only an 8GB sd tho
[17:06] <averybunker> #ali1234, Thanks for the redirect. I agree, I was reading the notes and their github and it looked like they fixed it, plus the article feedback seemed to have corrected the code and got it fixed. https://github.com/BrianSidebotham/arm-tutorial-rpi/issues/2. I just wasn't sure if I was missing something on getting the SD Card made correctly
[17:06] <mlelstv> I am using the SD only for booting
[17:06] <ali1234> averybunker: the dwelch repo contains a precompiled binary which i know for a fact works on 2B because i tried it the other day...
[17:06] <ali1234> so try that to veryify your SD card works
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[17:09] <thejman> I could grab this with it http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-32G-microSD-microSDHC-C4/dp/B004WDRS92/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1450022900&sr=1-4&keywords=microsd+usb+card+reader
[17:09] <averybunker> #ali1234, Thanks I will try that
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[17:09] <ttys0> thejman : ditch the reader, and get a faster card : http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-microSDHC-Standard-Packaging-SDSQUNC-032G-GN6MA/dp/B010Q57T02/ref=pd_cp_147_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1E2QAXCBX7STP21V68DN
[17:10] <thejman> ttys0: But wont i need a reader if i want to swap operating systems or something like that?
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[17:10] <Nightcinder> does your computer not have a standard sd card reader?
[17:10] <thejman> Nightcinder: Yeah...its a pain in the ass
[17:11] <ttys0> thejman : you can only have one OS running at a time. If you want to swap out a different OS, then stick in a different SD card. Chances are high that you'll chose a primary OS, and just run that.
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[17:11] <thejman> ttys0: ok thanks
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[17:11] <Nightcinder> and it'll probably be raspbian
[17:11] <mlelstv> you still need something to write the SD cards first time.
[17:11] <thejman> Thanks for all of your help guys i really appreciate it
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[17:12] <thejman> http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-Information-Card-Reader-TS-RDF5K/dp/B009D79VH4/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1450022986&sr=1-10&keywords=microsd+usb+card+reader
[17:12] <ttys0> I still prefer Arch.
[17:12] <thejman> ^there we go
[17:13] <leio> You can have multiple OS on the same SD card if you really want.
[17:13] <ttys0> thejman : for sticking into your PC, yes :)
[17:13] <thejman> ttys0: yep :D
[17:14] <Nightcinder> arch is awful imo
[17:14] <Nightcinder> but that's why we have options!
[17:14] <ttys0> hehehehe, indeed :)
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[17:15] <thejman> wait this thing has 4 usb ports correct?
[17:15] <Nightcinder> mhm
[17:15] <sedition> yes
[17:15] <thejman> awesome
[17:15] <Nightcinder> unless you get a zero
[17:16] <thejman> I beleive this one is the rpi 2: http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-WiFi/dp/B008XVAVAW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1450022588&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=raspberry+pi+2&psc=1
[17:16] <thejman> correct me if im wrong
[17:17] <averybunker> #ali1234, so I ran this arm-none-eabi-objcopy ~/Downloads/blinker01.elf -O binary kernel.img
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[17:17] <mlelstv> 4 ports and only a very limited amount of power
[17:17] <ali1234> averybunker: you can just grab the blinker01.bin and rename it to kernel.img
[17:17] <ali1234> you might need to name it kernel7.img
[17:17] <averybunker> and copied it to the SD Card, but I still do not see anything blinking, I also copied a kernel7.img out to the SD card as well
[17:18] <averybunker> ahh, gotcha missed the bin file
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[17:18] <Nightcinder> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/1jsueS0Y/IMG_20151212_182241.jpg i need a plan for these
[17:19] <mlelstv> nightcinder, is there more than one plan ?
[17:19] <Nightcinder> my current plan is to hook them into my arduino and make ambient backlighting for my monitor
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[17:20] <Nightcinder> haven't decided if there is a secondary plan yet
[17:20] <mlelstv> xmas lighting
[17:20] <Nightcinder> lol
[17:20] <mlelstv> very colorful :)
[17:20] <ttys0> wrap them in vertical lines on the wall, and use them as a visual load monitor
[17:21] <Nightcinder> as many colors as i want!
[17:21] <Nightcinder> but sadly they aren't the really nice ones
[17:21] <averybunker> ali1234, still no luck. I downloaded the bin and renamed to to kernel.img and also place a kernel7.img on the SD card and I am just sitting at the rainbow screen
[17:21] <Nightcinder> that can be individually controlled
[17:21] <mlelstv> why not nice?
[17:21] <Nightcinder> $25 for 1m of the nice ones
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[17:21] <Nightcinder> $5 for 5m of these
[17:21] <mlelstv> what type is this?
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[17:21] <ali1234> averybunker: yeah same... i bet i know what it is
[17:22] <Nightcinder> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-Sale-LED-strip-5050-12V-flexible-light-60led-m-5m-lot-RGB-White-Warm-white/1830137201.html
[17:22] <ali1234> averybunker: i must have tried this on my A+ and not 2B
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[17:23] <ali1234> averybunker: on the 2B the peripheral control registers were all relocated
[17:23] <ali1234> so for example: #define GPFSEL1 0x20200004
[17:23] <ali1234> becomes: #define GPFSEL1 0x3f200004
[17:24] <mlelstv> you would need a kind of diffuser to make this "ambient"
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[17:25] <Nightcinder> trying to find the other LED's
[17:25] <Nightcinder> can't remember
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[17:26] <averybunker> ali1234 does this work for you? https://github.com/BrianSidebotham/arm-tutorial-rpi/tree/master/part-1/armc-03/bin-rpi-2
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[17:26] <averybunker> if I look at the code it shows what you mention above
[17:27] <ali1234> it should handle both the different GPIO and the different memory map so it should work....
[17:27] <averybunker> #ifdef RPI2
[17:27] <averybunker> #define GPIO_BASE 0x3F200000UL
[17:27] <averybunker> #else
[17:27] <averybunker> #define GPIO_BASE 0x20200000UL
[17:27] <averybunker> #endif
[17:27] <Nightcinder> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1M-2M-4M-5M-WS2812B-5V-RGB-Addressble-LED-Strip-Black-White-PCB-30-60-144/32461422496.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_7_79_78_77_80,searchweb201644_5,searchweb201560_9 i believe it was these, mlelstv
[17:27] <Nightcinder> the 'nice' ones
[17:27] <averybunker> ali1234 but for somereason no luck
[17:28] <ali1234> yes that works for me
[17:29] <averybunker> ali1234 I have my pins laid out in this diagram https://gist.github.com/averybunker/9fb7a92e422a808dc949
[17:30] <averybunker> I have mine in pin 1 and 36
[17:30] <ali1234> it's supposed to blink the green LED on the board
[17:31] <ali1234> not one you added yourself...
[17:32] <mlelstv> nightcinder, where is the difference?
[17:32] <averybunker> ali1234 LOL, I have seen that multiple times and thought I was making a mistake, as I thought it was going to go out the pins of GPIO16
[17:32] <mlelstv> looks all like ws2811 rgb driver chains to me
[17:32] <Nightcinder> mlelstv: so the more expensive ones are individually adressable
[17:32] <Nightcinder> addressable
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[17:33] <Nightcinder> afaik you can't do that with mine
[17:33] <Nightcinder> it's all one color
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[17:33] <Nightcinder> these are WS2812B
[17:33] <Nightcinder> the expensive ones
[17:34] <ali1234> well, with the old model B it would, but that code wouldn't work on a 2B anyway because of the different memory addresses thing
[17:34] <mlelstv> and the cheap ones?
[17:34] <Nightcinder> the cheap ones are SD2811
[17:34] <Nightcinder> WS2811
[17:34] <Nightcinder> holy shit keyboard
[17:34] <ali1234> but on the old model B, GPIO 16 is not on the header
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[17:35] <mlelstv> that's also individually addressable
[17:35] <Nightcinder> oi
[17:35] <Nightcinder> o*
[17:35] <Nightcinder> didn't know that
[17:36] <Nightcinder> neat then
[17:36] <ali1234> Nightcinder: black/white refers to the colour of the backing PCB film
[17:36] <mlelstv> the difference is 1 channel vs 3
[17:36] <Nightcinder> ali1234: yes
[17:36] <mlelstv> so one color vs RGB
[17:36] <averybunker> ali1234 Thanks, I was trying all kinds of things and even went here to see if I could get this displayed on the TV as I thought I was missing something and couldn't get anything to work. https://github.com/PeterLemon/RaspberryPi/tree/master/HelloWorld/CPU
[17:36] <Nightcinder> well, i'm not very experienced with LED's, so this is more of a 'lets see if it works'
[17:36] <mlelstv> has nothing to do with LEDs
[17:37] <mlelstv> it's the controller chip that drives the LEDs
[17:37] <Nightcinder> yes
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[17:37] <Nightcinder> i know
[17:37] <Nightcinder> what i meant was it wasn't worth the extra $$ right now
[17:37] <mlelstv> http://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/mlelstv/unicornhat.jpg
[17:37] <mlelstv> do you know this?
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[17:37] <Nightcinder> nope, waiting for my LED controller chip and stuff to get here before i dive in
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[17:38] <mlelstv> that's just the same ws2812 led chain but forming a 8x8 array
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[17:38] * Nightcinder nods
[17:38] <Nightcinder> the 3 channel LED's were just too expensive for a side toy project
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[17:40] <Nightcinder> These should do the job just fine
[17:40] <mlelstv> think so
[17:40] <Nightcinder> i do have a project that could make use of the WS2812's but that's for another day
[17:41] <Nightcinder> backlighting based on what's on the screen (individual corners and stuff)
[17:41] <mlelstv> how would you know what is displayed?
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[17:42] <Nightcinder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd-0qrtwyzk
[17:42] <Nightcinder> hdmi capture/screenshots
[17:43] <ali1234> you could use dispmanx scaling to render your video into a 4x4 buffer and then read it directly from memory
[17:43] <ali1234> if using the pi for video playback that is
[17:44] <Nightcinder> i'd most likely be using the pi or an arduino to control the led's, but my pc for playback
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[17:46] <Nightcinder> i haven't procured an rpi zero yet though
[17:46] <Twist> Has anyone used MotionPie (now motionEyeOS) and had problems with it only saving short unplayable avi files?
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[17:46] <mlelstv> doesn't tell what video capture device they use
[17:47] <Nightcinder> cause it's custom
[17:47] <ali1234> Nightcinder: this is one project where an AVR would be better than a Pi... because you can program it as a USB device
[17:47] <Nightcinder> http://www.keiang.de/Content-pid-58.html#pretty/1/
[17:47] <ali1234> ould make interfacing with the PC much simpler
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[17:47] <thejman> I assume the raspberry pi cannot produce sound
[17:47] <mlelstv> well, you "could" program a pi like a USB device
[17:47] <ali1234> you could program a zero as a device, yes... but it's really hard
[17:48] <mlelstv> jman, whatever "sound" is.
[17:48] <ttys0> thejman : BZZZT : https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/audio-config.md
[17:48] <ali1234> with an AVR it's trivial
[17:48] <mlelstv> jman, it has an analog audio output and can send audio via HDMI
[17:48] <qubitnerd> vusb is one project
[17:48] <qubitnerd> for AVR
[17:48] <thejman> ttys0: Oh wow thats cool. I was not expecting that
[17:48] <mlelstv> the audio output is low quality though.
[17:49] <mlelstv> (and not that compatible with my monitor, signal too weak)
[17:49] <ali1234> it's not that bad
[17:49] <Nightcinder> i have an arduino uno
[17:49] <Nightcinder> i was going to play around with
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[17:50] <yskapell> Hi all
[17:51] <yskapell> When I made changes to the keyboard when it reboots it reset to default
[17:51] <yskapell> Any idea how to keep the changes?
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[17:53] <mlelstv> explain "changes to the keyboard"
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[17:54] <mikroskeem> yskapell: you're changing keyboard layout and after reboot it resets back to US layout?
[17:55] <yskapell> yes
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[17:59] <yskapell> Also how can I install enlightenment on raspberry 2 ?
[17:59] <ttys0> same way you would on any system running the linux distribution you have installed on your Pi
[18:01] <yskapell> ttys0: You mean that if I download .deb packages for x86_64 will be install ?
[18:01] <PiGuy> Hello
[18:02] <PiGuy> I would like my Raspberry Pi 2 Model B to run for at least 8 hours.
[18:02] <ttys0> is that really how you would normally install it? why not use your distribution's package management system? And obviously x86_64 bits won't work on a Pi.
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[18:03] <yskapell> ttys0: It is not on oackage management. You need to install it by hand or deb packages
[18:03] <PiGuy> How much current and voltage would I need in order to run the Raspberry Pi 2 Model B for one hour?
[18:03] <qubitnerd> are you using xmodmap ?
[18:03] <qubitnerd> yskapell:
[18:03] <mlelstv> piguy, the same as for 100 hours
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[18:04] <yskapell> yes qubitnerd ?
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[18:04] <Encrypt> PiGuy, The question is either "how much current" or "how much power"
[18:04] <Encrypt> Because the voltage has to be 5V anyway
[18:04] <ali1234> wrong and wrong
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[18:05] <PiGuy> Encrypt: How much current
[18:05] <mlelstv> the current depends on what you need to power. the rpi alone, something connected to it?
[18:05] <ali1234> the question is actually "how much energy?"
[18:05] <Encrypt> PiGuy, I guess it depends on its usage
[18:05] <ttys0> yskapell : then I guess you're hand building it. I'm surprised there's not a distro repo that provides it for you. For example, on Arch it's available via pacman -S enlightenment
[18:05] <ali1234> and the answer is about 2.5 watt hours
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[18:06] <Encrypt> ali1234, Watt hours isn't an SI unit
[18:06] <yskapell> ttys0: yes, but I do not have Arch, I have the default raspberrian
[18:06] <Encrypt> So you're wrong too! :>
[18:06] <Encrypt> Na
[18:06] <Encrypt> :D
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[18:06] <ali1234> Encrypt: 9000 joules then
[18:06] <Encrypt> :D
[18:06] <PiGuy> Encrypt: I will always have a LCD on the Pi, and let's say I am using 100% of the CPU at all times
[18:06] <ali1234> however 9000 joules is not very useful when choosing a battery...
[18:07] <Encrypt> ali1234, Right :P
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[18:09] <ali1234> PiGuy: how big is the LCD?
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[18:10] <PiGuy> ali1234: The LCD is a 3.5 inch waveshare
[18:10] <ali1234> probably double what i said before then
[18:10] <qubitnerd> yskapell: then you need to run xmodmap .Xmodmap everytime you start X
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[18:11] <PiGuy> ali1234: So a 5w 5v Battery?
[18:11] <PiGuy> I need the battery is be smaller than 85.60mm x 56mm x 21mm (or roughly 3.37″ x 2.21″ x 0.83″)
[18:11] <lilwiz> Any tips on wall-plug socket receivers so you can turn on and off appliances/lights?
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[18:12] <lilwiz> Preferrably cheap but not unsafely cheap
[18:12] <ali1234> you won't find a 5V battery... you need some kind of regulator
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[18:13] <PiGuy> ali1234: Alright so what will 5w do?
[18:13] <PiGuy> provide me
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[18:13] <PiGuy> enough power for one hour or 8 hours?
[18:13] <mlelstv> nothing
[18:13] <PiGuy> :(
[18:13] <mlelstv> it's 5Wh for one hour
[18:14] <mlelstv> or 40Wh for 8 hours
[18:14] <mlelstv> assuming there were a 5V battery, that's a rating of 8Ah
[18:14] <ali1234> an alkaline AA is about 4Wh, four of those would get you up to 6V, that would run it for about an hour
[18:15] <ali1234> and should fit in your dimensions
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[18:16] <ali1234> probably a bit less since the drain will be a bit higher than 50mA
[18:16] <PiGuy> mlelstv: Oh alright, So for 24 hours I am looking for a 12Wh (lets say 8v) and then I will use a 5v regulator then send it to the Pi?
[18:17] <ali1234> for 12 hours you need about 100Wh - watt-hours are independent of voltage
[18:17] <PiGuy> mlelstv: Oh alright, So for 24 hours I am looking for a 120Wh (lets say 8v) and then I will use a 5v regulator then send it to the Pi?
[18:17] <mlelstv> sort of
[18:18] <ali1234> yes and you need an efficient regulator, otherwise you will just burn even more energy as heat
[18:18] <PiGuy> ali1234: Oh alright, so I need a 200Wh battery? for 24 hours?
[18:18] <PiGuy> With a good regulator
[18:18] <ali1234> look here's how you calculate it
[18:18] <ali1234> pi uses 5V, right?
[18:18] <mlelstv> your standard "regulator" won't work this way, it just burns the extra voltage into heat.
[18:18] <PiGuy> mlelstv: Oh
[18:18] <PiGuy> ali1234: Yes
[18:18] <ali1234> current drain depends on how much stuff you have plugged in
[18:18] <mlelstv> a switching regulator will do much better, but may still have some 5-15% losses.
[18:19] <ali1234> Pi 2 starts at about 300mA and going up as you plug in more stuff
[18:19] <PiGuy> mlelstv: Thanks I will probably use that then :)
[18:19] <mlelstv> search for DC/DC converter
[18:19] <ali1234> let's assume you will use 1A at most... you would have a hard time exceeding this
[18:19] <PiGuy> ali1234: I'm following
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[18:19] <PiGuy> mlelstv: AC/DC converter?
[18:19] <ali1234> 5V * 1A = 5W
[18:19] <mlelstv> no, DC/DC :)
[18:20] <PiGuy> mlelstv: :) But isn't it already DC?
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[18:20] <ali1234> 5W * 1 hour = 5 watt-hours
[18:20] <mlelstv> that's the point
[18:20] <mlelstv> from 8V DC to 5V DC
[18:20] <ali1234> 5W * 24 hours = 96 watt-hours
[18:20] <mlelstv> or better: from 6-15V DC to 5V DC
[18:20] <ali1234> wait
[18:21] <ali1234> 5W * 24 hours = 120 watt hours
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[18:21] <ali1234> battery capacity is measured in mAh (milliamp-hours) anot watt-hours
[18:21] <ali1234> this is because batteries do not have a constant voltage
[18:22] <PiGuy> mlelstv: Oh alright I will look for one of those :)
[18:22] <PiGuy> ali1234: Oh
[18:22] <ali1234> to ensure your battery has enough capacity, multiply the "discharged" voltage by the number of mAh it has
[18:22] <PiGuy> ali1234: So I need to convert the Wh back to Ah?
[18:22] <ali1234> that will give you a rough estimate of the watt-hours
[18:23] <ali1234> then you need to regulate the battery voltage either up or down to 5V
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[18:23] <mlelstv> http://www.pollin.de/shop/dt/ODc4OTgxOTk-/Bausaetze_Module/Bausaetze/Bausatz_Step_down_Wandler.html
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[18:24] <mlelstv> 6.5-24V input, 5V output 2A max.
[18:25] <PiGuy> ali1234: Oh I see :) So I need to search for a 120Wh battery?
[18:25] <ali1234> you probably want to step up, otherwise you will need like 5x AA, or 6x AA if you use rechargable ones
[18:26] <PiGuy> mlelstv: Thanks, I can probably make one if I can find a schematic
[18:26] <ali1234> if you want 24 hours of operation you will probably want to use a 12V lead-acid (car) battery and step down
[18:26] <mlelstv> for that much power you probably need a lot of cells. No problem to go for a higher voltage then.
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[18:26] <ali1234> you should measure your actual current usage before buying expensive batteries
[18:27] <ali1234> it will probably be lower than what we can guestimate
[18:27] <ali1234> or it might be higher, who knows?
[18:27] <PiGuy> ali1234: I see, How can I measure the current draw?
[18:27] <ali1234> with a "charger doctor"
[18:27] <mlelstv> for 12V batteries (like car batteries) there are many ready-to-use DC/DC converters
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[18:27] <PiGuy> ali1234: Oh I see
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[18:28] <ali1234> you can also do it with a multimeter but a charger doctor is more convenient
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[18:28] <mlelstv> http://www.amazon.de/DROK-DC-DC-AbwC$rtswandler-Step-down-Spannungswandler-Volt-Regler-Stromversorgung-Konverter-Modul/dp/B00GYL9690
[18:29] <ali1234> also this stuff is kind of dangerous... if you don't know what P = IV means or how to measure current, you probably aren't ready to be building this yet
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[18:31] <mgottschlag2> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Mini-Converter-Adjustable-DC-DC-Step-down-Power-Supply-Module-replace-LM2596/32379817867.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.369.WAcutk&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_4_79_78_77_82_80_62,searchweb201644_0,searchweb201560_8 <- much cheaper if you can wait a ~3 weeks
[18:31] <mgottschlag2> but yeah, especially if you move to big lead acid batteries, things can become dangerous
[18:31] <PiGuy> mlelstv: Hopefully I can find one that is really small like credit card size battery
[18:32] <mgottschlag2> unfortunately, capacity is proportional to volume :)
[18:32] <mlelstv> a credit card size battery probably won't be powerful enough
[18:32] <PiGuy> ali1234: I learned that stuff, this is my project where I put alot of stuff i learned to the test
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[18:33] <mlelstv> does it need to be rechargable?
[18:33] <PiGuy> mlelstv: Yes
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[18:34] <mlelstv> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00750EFDQ?tag=1newmodel-20
[18:34] <PiGuy> mgottschlag2: Maybe if I go for 12 hours the battery would be small enough
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[18:34] <PiGuy> alil1234: Thanks for your help with understanding the battery information :)
[18:34] <ali1234> for a Pi 2 and LCD you are looking at a laptop battery at least
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[18:35] <ali1234> so it's going to be quite large
[18:35] <ali1234> for 24 hour use anyway
[18:36] <ali1234> a model A+ idling runs for about 12 hours on 2x 18650s, which are a bit bigger than AA
[18:36] <PiGuy> mlelstv: That looks good but it has a consumer, end product style price :(
[18:36] <ali1234> under full load it lasts a couple of hours
[18:36] <mlelstv> http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00M1KP12E
[18:36] <mlelstv> doesn't mean it is expensive
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[18:37] <PiGuy> ali1234: 10 hours should work for me. For I will look for 50W battery
[18:37] <mlelstv> the last one is the most powerful I did find, 26Ah, about 500g
[18:37] <PiGuy> mlelstv: Thanks :)
[18:37] <ali1234> pretty good, if it's not fake
[18:37] <mlelstv> a bit larger than a credit card though :)
[18:38] <mgottschlag2> Anker is a reputable brand
[18:38] <mgottschlag2> much more expensive than chinese power banks though
[18:38] <mlelstv> and for the price, don't forget that such batteries age pretty fast. half capacity after 3 years is standard.
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[18:39] <mgottschlag2> http://www.amazon.com/Generic-20000mAh-Power-Digital-Devices/dp/B00JQ98MR4/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1450028265&sr=1-2 <- this doesn't look too bad either even if one takes into account that 1 chinese Ah is more like 0.7 western Ah
[18:39] <PiGuy> mgottschlag2: Thanks, that regulator chip will definitely work :D
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[18:40] <PiGuy> mlelstv: True
[18:41] <PiGuy> I will look for a 50Wh battery
[18:42] <mgottschlag2> if you work with lead acid batteries, *always* use a fuse, and never have any uninsulated wires dangling from the battery
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[18:43] <mgottschlag2> I don't know how much the short circuit current of the average car battery is, but it is a 3 digit number for sure :)
[18:43] <mgottschlag2> (and 50Wh is in that territory where you'll probably need a larger battery than provided by consumer power banks)
[18:43] <mgottschlag2> hm, I think I've seen larger laptop power banks though, that might work as well
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[18:45] <mothership> changed boot option in raspi-config from desktop to console, but its not working, still boots in desktop
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[18:47] <mlelstv> https://www.reichelt.de/?ARTICLE=161028
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[18:47] <mlelstv> that would be ready-to-use for the rpi
[18:48] <PiGuy> mgottschlag2: Thanks for the tip
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[18:49] <PiGuy> mlelstv: That looks pretty good, I will translate it to english and see what it says
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[18:58] <mlelstv> https://www.piborg.org/battborg
[18:59] <mlelstv> that's even very small.
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[19:51] <gordonDrogon> evening ...
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> If in the UK, then this is worth a watch tonight on BBC 2: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03bm39q
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> it's about astronaut Tim Peake
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> who'll be the one "playing" with the Raspberry Pi's on the ISS ...
[19:54] <H__> that's on cable in .nl too (beeb 1+2)
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> ah right - I wasn't so sure how wide the bbc goes - I always read stories about them trying to stop it being seen outside the UK.
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[19:58] <Apocx> so I've attached a Pi to an Atmega328p chip and hooked up the serial pins between them (MOSI/MISO/SCLK/etc). Successfully flashed a simple program to blink an LED using the Pi to the Atmega chip. But I cannot read any of the serial data the arduino is sending the Pi every time it blinks the LED. Anyone have an idea as to why?
[19:58] <gordonDrogon> Apocx, serial, as in uart or serial as in SPI?
[19:58] <gordonDrogon> if the latter, then the Pi doesn't do SPI slave.
[19:59] <gordonDrogon> best & easiest way (IMO) to talk Pi to ATmega is via the uart, or if it's e.g. arduino then via the usb serial uart.
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[20:01] <Apocx> I basically did the same things in this setup: http://pi.gadgetoid.com/article/building-the-pico-piduino
[20:01] <Gadgetoid> Woooo!
[20:01] <Gadgetoid> *hides again*
[20:01] <Apocx> :P
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[20:02] <Apocx> so SPI
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[20:03] <Gadgetoid> UART, I guess, is the problem?
[20:04] <Apocx> yeah could I just hook up the UART lines and get rid of the SPI?
[20:04] <Gadgetoid> You'll not get any serial data through SPI
[20:04] <Gadgetoid> Zilch, zero, nada, not without setting up your own system for it
[20:04] <Apocx> SPI is needed to program the arduino though right?
[20:04] <Apocx> can I use both UART and SPI?
[20:04] <Gadgetoid> Yup!
[20:05] <Apocx> alright I'll just do that then
[20:05] <Gadgetoid> You can technically program over UART, too, but I use SPI since it avoids the need for a bootloader
[20:05] <Apocx> yeah
[20:05] <Apocx> I'd like to keep them separate anyway
[20:05] <Apocx> will use UART for communication
[20:06] <Apocx> I probably should have realized this already. In my defense though, I'm very tired.
[20:06] <Gadgetoid> The simplest problems are always the most complicated :D
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[20:06] <ali1234> Gadgetoid: your shop page for the pi zero... the table doesn't agree with the prices at the top
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[20:07] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: yeah I think we're on that
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[20:07] <ali1234> Gadgetoid: does the most expensive bundle with scroll hat include all the stuff from the others?
[20:08] <Apocx> yay now it works
[20:09] <Apocx> thanks
[20:09] <Gadgetoid> I've no idea, they were all set up while I was face-down in a pillow with some kind of cold/flu virus
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[20:09] <ali1234> okay. one more question. i saw you mention a ESP8266 HAT somewhere
[20:09] <ali1234> is it compatible with this? http://hackaday.com/2015/12/09/raspberry-pi-wifi-through-sdio/
[20:09] <Gadgetoid> I'll find out about Pi Zero
[20:09] <ali1234> which is to say, did you wire up SDIO?
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> need more Pi Zeros, Gadgetoid :-)
[20:10] <Gadgetoid> :P
[20:10] <Gadgetoid> They're all mine, MINE!
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[20:11] <gordonDrogon> hmph.
[20:11] <gordonDrogon> I want a zero and scholl phat...
[20:11] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: nah the bundle includes a stand for mounting Pizero / scroll pHAT
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[20:11] <ali1234> a... stand?
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[20:17] <Gadgetoid> Yup... a ... stand
[20:18] <ali1234> okay. any chance of replacement legs for the 7" display case so i can use it the other way up?
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[20:20] <ali1234> also... would be nice if you stocked M2.5 nylon bolts for mounting the pi in a pibow
[20:20] <ali1234> 20mm works well with the coupe
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[20:29] <PiGuy> mlelstv: Thanks! :D This is perfect! :D Now I just need to figure out how to charge the batteries off of a wall charger
[20:29] <PiGuy> That PiBorg is great
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[20:40] <mlelstv> piguy, yes, seems to be exactly what you need.
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[20:40] <PiGuy> :)
[20:41] <uriah> whoa that's tiny
[20:42] <uriah> i made my own based on an article in one of the first magpi's and it's about 10x as big lol
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[20:49] <gordonDrogon> nearly 8pm folks - time to tune into BBC 2 for http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03bm39q if you can! Tim Peake...
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[20:50] <gordonDrogon> I'll be watching it on bbc iplayer later - I've got 100 mince pies to make now. if any consolation, they'll be baked in a Raspberry Pi controlled oven though...
[20:54] <H__> :-D !
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[21:59] <JakeSays> anyone here have experience with hostapd?
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[22:00] <JakeSays> what i want to know is if it works
[22:00] <JakeSays> looks like setup might be painful
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[22:17] <jasabella> hi :)
[22:17] <jasabella> is it 'normal' to have the latency to the pi jitter a lot?
[22:18] <jasabella> i realise this depends on my network
[22:18] <jasabella> buti'm getting times ranging from 4ms to 225ms
[22:18] <ppq> wifi?
[22:18] <jasabella> yup
[22:18] <ppq> might be a driver problem
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[22:18] <ppq> (it's not normal)
[22:18] <jasabella> hmmm suspected it was
[22:19] <jasabella> i have
[22:19] <jasabella> RTL8188CUS
[22:19] <jasabella> (0bda:8176)
[22:20] <ttys0> I've found wifi performance to be very jittery. I've since just switched to using wired only, and have been much happier.
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[22:20] <ttys0> I often wondered how much it had to with the USB performance.
[22:21] <ttys0> *to do
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[22:21] <jasabella> i'm using 8192cu driver hm
[22:21] <mlelstv> wifi is jittery because that's how wifi works
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[22:22] <mlelstv> especially with marginal radio conditions.
[22:23] <ttys0> I don't think hundred millisecond swings can be explained away with "that's how wifi works".
[22:23] <jasabella> wow i just got worse :)
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[22:24] <ppq> yea, it shoudln't be *that* bad
[22:24] <jasabella> apparently i have a good driver :[
[22:24] <mlelstv> neither rpi nor driver will that much time. But catching a repeated frame without errors on a congested network, that gets you easily up to a few hundred milliseconds.
[22:24] <mlelstv> will take
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[22:25] <Karlton> the ethernet on the rpi is actually a usb ethernet device
[22:26] <jasabella> yep, it shows up under lsusb
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[22:26] <jasabella> saves having to put in a pci bus :D
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[22:27] <jasabella> (are there pci buses for arm?)
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[22:27] <mlelstv> there are
[22:27] <ttys0> pci express, even
[22:28] <ppq> jasabella, is the firmware-realtek package installed? this is the latest version http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-realtek_20151207-1_all.deb
[22:28] <ttys0> jasabella : oh, and how about power? I also ran into all kinds of weirdo problems when powered from a usb hub that went away when I switched to a wall wart.
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[22:29] <jasabella> should be getting 2.1A 5V
[22:29] <jasabella> should be plenty
[22:30] <ttys0> yup
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[22:33] <jasabella> hmmm i should look into the firmware thing
[22:34] <jasabella> maybe i have an old one
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[22:53] <pigrit> 'ullo
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[22:55] <Keukpa> Hi, could someone tell me how I can change the i2c bus speed? I'm runing kernel 4.1.13+
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[22:58] <pigrit> I can't quite find a straight answer - what are the limitations, in terms of things you can connect to the Pi ? sensors, leds, displays, buzzers/speakers
[22:58] <pigrit> at once, of course
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[23:00] <methuzla> limit is available power
[23:00] <mlelstv> limit is your fantasy
[23:00] <pigrit> so - to get one concern out of the picture - there is no limitation given by the number of GPIO pins ?
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[23:01] <mlelstv> it depends on how much effort you put into it
[23:02] <mlelstv> keukpa, what i2c bus ?
[23:02] <methuzla> well, the number of pins is finite, so if you need 5000 digital outs, then yeah, there's a limit
[23:03] <pigrit> a-ha
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[23:03] <pigrit> thought there might be some way to use the same pin for multiple sensors
[23:03] <Keukpa> mlelstv: RPi B (Rev2), I'm connecting to /dev/i2c-1 on pins 4 and 6.
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[23:04] <methuzla> pigrit i2c and spi allow multiple sensors
[23:05] <pigrit> so it's unlimited inputs but limited outs ?
[23:05] <methuzla> inputs are limited in same way as outputs
[23:06] <pigrit> so i2c and spi have limits too
[23:06] <methuzla> yes
[23:06] <methuzla> not really sure what you're trying to figure out though
[23:07] <mlelstv> keukpa, please read https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=34734
[23:07] <Encrypt> The real question, I guess, is: "what are you planning to do?"
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[23:08] <Keukpa> mlelstv: aha! I was actually just reading that :) tnx
[23:08] <myself> "I've never built anything with a pi but I'm gonna try to ruffle as many feathers online by declaring impractical limits and asking theoretical questions"
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[23:08] <myself> ^^ how most of those paraphrase, just ignore them
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[23:08] <Keukpa> When I run 'i2cdetect -y 1' sometimes, and only sometimes do I see the device on the bus, sometimes it's there, sometimes it isn't :/ any ideas?
[23:08] <pigrit> trying to get a grasp of the hardware constraints before/while thinking about automating bits of the house
[23:09] <pigrit> oh no I love the little box
[23:09] <pigrit> but so far I've used them as network servers
[23:09] <pigrit> never trucked with peripherals beyond leds and an attempt at voice commands
[23:10] <ali1234> pigrit: look at this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nUnaWl_veBKlnqsDwPQUYZNKKiIYhf8f8a6e_bd1cKc/edit?usp=sharing
[23:10] <ali1234> you have up to 28 gpios to play with
[23:11] <ali1234> you can add more with i2c, which would allow over 1600 GPIOs if you add enough expanders
[23:11] <ali1234> you have 2x I2C ports
[23:11] <ali1234> so up to 3200 GPIO
[23:11] <mlelstv> but does that help for "home automation" ? :)
[23:11] <ali1234> but there's more
[23:11] <ali1234> you can chain shift registers on to the SPI ports, of which there are also two
[23:12] <pigrit> so, say, 10 inputs and 4-5 outputs, plus of course screen and audio input and outputs, are well within reach
[23:12] <ali1234> there is no limit to the number of those beyond physical ones and how long you are willing to wait for them to update
[23:12] <ali1234> yes that is trivially easy
[23:12] <pigrit> sweet
[23:12] <pigrit> "them" ? "update" ?
[23:12] <ali1234> yes
[23:13] <Keukpa> mlelstv: hmmm adding baudrate as a param in modprobe doesn't seem to change it... ;/
[23:13] <Encrypt> pigrit, The more devices you add, the longer you have to wait for them to receive / send their status
[23:13] <ali1234> how long are you willing to wait between sending the "GPIO ON" command, and the GPIO actually turning on?
[23:13] <pigrit> ok, I'd guessed right
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[23:14] <pigrit> what unit of time are we talking about ?
[23:14] <pigrit> milliseconds, seconds
[23:14] <ali1234> microseconds
[23:14] <pigrit> suits me
[23:14] <ali1234> in fact the delay will be around 1 microsecond per additional shift register bit
[23:14] <ali1234> if you operate the bus at 1MHz
[23:15] <pigrit> I don't know what that means, but I'm sure I'll find out in the process
[23:15] <ali1234> it means if you had 60 million GPIOs it would take a minute to set them all on or off
[23:15] <pigrit> heh u call that performance
[23:16] <Keukpa> ah! Device tree! More playing....
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[23:16] <Encrypt> I wonder id 60 million would even be possible (<.<)
[23:16] <pigrit> :D
[23:16] <Encrypt> I guess noise would already limit the number of GPIO available (usable)
[23:16] <ali1234> Encrypt: i don't see why not, if you chain up a load of shift registers... as long as you power them properly it should cascade
[23:16] <mlelstv> if he has the money for 60 million actuators or sensors... then everything is possible
[23:17] <ali1234> also i didn't account for gate propagation delay, but that shouldn't prevent it from working
[23:17] <Encrypt> ali1234, And what about electromagnetic noise?
[23:17] <ali1234> i doubt it would be a problem
[23:17] <ali1234> i mean consider the gates in a CPU... millions of them and they are much closer together
[23:18] <pigrit> I presume googling "how to connect part [xxx] via i2c" would do the trick throughout ?
[23:18] <mlelstv> pigrit, do you have anything in your home that can be controlled by a 3.3V signal? :)
[23:18] <pigrit> oooh I wish I knew :D
[23:18] <myself> At some point you have some unpredictability in the timing skew difference between the signal and the clock, and you start having to scale back the clock rate to be sure of adequate margin, but yeah, this is so far into the absurdity it's not even a consideration. You'll run into wiring practicality limits well before I/O limits.
[23:18] <mlelstv> do you have anything that can be controlled at all by an electrical signal ? :)
[23:18] <myself> i.e. can you take a bundle of wires as thick as your leg into a single closet and connect it all to your plethora of i/o expanders?
[23:19] <pigrit> like a light switch relay ? probably not
[23:19] <myself> lmao.... maybe start by actually building sometihng
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[23:19] <mlelstv> see, that's the first thing you have to consider. Then you can find out how an rpi (or more than one) could control it.
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[23:20] <pigrit> time's been scarce til now, I'm going to give it a whirl during the holidays
[23:20] <mlelstv> the last time I looked into home automation, it was in a poor state, an you needed to support a dozen different standards.
[23:21] <mlelstv> none of them would be related to GPIO ports :)
[23:21] <pigrit> :(
[23:21] <ali1234> i have a neat home automation solution
[23:21] <mlelstv> tell
[23:22] <ali1234> buy those cheap RF controlled plugs and then build a radio dongle to talk to them
[23:22] <pigrit> does it shoot poisoned darts
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[23:22] <ali1234> http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/remote-controlled-mains-sockets-5-pack-n38hn
[23:22] <ali1234> https://github.com/ali1234/avr-433/
[23:23] <ali1234> don't even need to use any GPIO
[23:23] <pigrit> sold
[23:23] <mlelstv> ali, the "consumer solution" for this is either wifi-controlled plugs or zigbee, probably replaced by BLE in the future
[23:23] <ali1234> mlelstv: yes but x10 and zigbee and BLE are all a load of expensive incompatible junk...
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[23:23] <ali1234> if i'm going to buy junk at least let it be cheap
[23:24] <H__> heh :)
[23:24] <pigrit> so, with the GPIO limitation out of the picture - what was that earlier about power ?
[23:24] <mlelstv> ali, I agree :)
[23:24] <mlelstv> but then, everybody can now control your plugs :)
[23:25] <ali1234> yes but i don't care
[23:25] <ali1234> all they can do is turn my lights on and off
[23:25] <ali1234> and the range on these things is low
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[23:25] <ali1234> they can probably have more "fun" by opening people's garage which use the same signalling
[23:25] <mlelstv> given envough power to the remote control ....
[23:27] <methuzla> pigrit typically, hardware attached to pi draws power, pi must supply it, if you add too much hardware you can exceed the limit
[23:27] <pigrit> I noticed it really didn't like a wifi dongle + a usb hd (not selfpowered)
[23:27] <pigrit> but I was hoping it was a problem with usb
[23:28] <mlelstv> wifi dongle and a not self-powered usb HD should be fine
[23:28] <mlelstv> what rpi is that?
[23:28] <pigrit> it tended to turn off one or the other
[23:28] <pigrit> mmmh 2 I think
[23:28] <mlelstv> the older rpi1 one were very sensitive, and hotplugging usually caused problems.
[23:28] <pigrit> 512mb, 4 usb ports
[23:28] <methuzla> pigrit what are you using to power the pi?
[23:29] <pigrit> the plug that came with it, 5v 1000mA
[23:29] <mlelstv> take 700mA for the RPI
[23:30] <mlelstv> so 300mA for everything you plug into USB..
[23:30] <pigrit> I got a 2+ too, it came with 5v 2000mA
[23:30] <mlelstv> marginal for some wifi devices
[23:31] <methuzla> 700mA just for the pi? seems like a lot. i thought it was more like 200-300mA.
[23:31] <ali1234> yeah it is a lot
[23:32] <ali1234> pi 2 uses about 500mA full tilt iirc
[23:32] <pigrit> the hd I used says on the back 5v 1A
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[23:32] <ali1234> wifi dongles are variable... can be anything from 50mA to 500mA
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[23:32] <ali1234> and HDs use a lot
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[23:33] <pigrit> so I should use external power for everything I can
[23:33] <pigrit> displays, speakers etc
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[23:33] <ali1234> anything that will use over a few hundred mA yes
[23:33] <mlelstv> not everything, but you need to calculate your power budget
[23:34] <pigrit> and stop adding inputs when the power starts going off
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[23:35] <methuzla> yes. calculate power budget. external power if needed.
[23:35] <pigrit> is the camera a big drain ?
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[23:36] <ali1234> not really no
[23:37] <methuzla> The camera board requires 250mA to operate (https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/#cameraPower)
[23:37] <ali1234> in practice it requires less than that
[23:37] <pigrit> 250 over 1000 seems noticeable
[23:37] <mgottschlag2> if you want to measure power draw, make sure to measure the worst-case load, or you'll hit situations where it becomes unstable :)
[23:37] <mgottschlag2> power supplies: design for maximum load
[23:38] <mgottschlag2> battery life: design for average load
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[23:40] <mgottschlag2> (similarly, although not applicable to the pi: cooling solutions need to be built for maximum dissipation, although the heatsink absorbs short peaks... a power supply is less forgiving)
[23:40] <mgottschlag2> *similar
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[23:45] <pigrit> off to look up i2c & co., tyvm all so far
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[23:47] <__builtin> hello
[23:47] <__builtin> how can I get the framebuffer size?
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[23:48] <mlelstv> explain "framebuffer"
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[23:49] <__builtin> whatever resolution /dev/fb0 is
[23:49] <__builtin> actually, I'm trying to grab a screenshot
[23:49] <__builtin> and fbdump is segfaulting for me
[23:51] <mlelstv> with or without X ?
[23:51] <__builtin> with X
[23:51] <mlelstv> does xwd help ?
[23:51] <__builtin> hmm probably, let me check
[23:54] <__builtin> how can I do it from a non-X terminal (ssh in this case)?
[23:54] <__builtin> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[23:55] <mlelstv> you need to correct authentication.
[23:55] <mlelstv> do you want to grab a screen from a different user ?
[23:55] <__builtin> yes
[23:55] <mlelstv> then you need his credentials
[23:55] <mlelstv> the 'cookie' is stored in .Xauthority in the home of that user
[23:55] <__builtin> would 'su'-ing as the user work?
[23:56] <mlelstv> it is usually also stored somewhere else for the X server. Depends on the window / session managers
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[23:56] <mlelstv> 'su' would work
[23:56] <mlelstv> but you can also copy the credentials
[23:56] <mlelstv> assuming you have enough rights :)
[23:56] <__builtin> yeah, I have root access
[23:57] <mlelstv> as root you can probably read the .Xauthority file
[23:57] <__builtin> and then what?
[23:58] <mlelstv> then: env XAUTHORITY=/home/thatuser/.Xauthority xwd -display :0 -root > rootimage.xwd
[23:59] <mlelstv> if you just want to copy the credentials, don't copy the .Xauthority file but use the xauth tool to extract and merge.

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