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IRC Log for 2015-12-15

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[0:06] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: nearly compiled a half decent but cheesy set from freesounds, just sorting out the formats
[0:06] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: might have to check that out though
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[0:07] <ali1234> doesn't seem to contain any drums but a few whistles: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14015233/
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[0:10] <Gadgetoid> Oooh, this base is much punchier through headphones
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[0:15] <Gadgetoid> My immesurable drum skills for your listening pleasure: https://vine.co/v/immXxVlBZez
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[0:16] <ali1234> you know a drum kit has to be tuned right?
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[0:17] <ali1234> (you'd be surprised how many drummers don't know this)
[0:17] <Gadgetoid> Nah, drummers just say that because they want it to sound technical :P
[0:18] <ali1234> what's that thing you've got it plugged in to? is it the blackhat?
[0:18] <Gadgetoid> They just need all 75 of their individual drums arrayed around them like a fortress so they can't be seen, then they just jack in a TR-808 and drink themselves unconscious
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[0:18] <ali1234> hah, yeah that part is true. that's why we made a kick-snare-hat rule
[0:18] <Gadgetoid> Yeah that's an old proto Blackhat
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[0:26] <pigrit> I made something like that with capacitive thingibops
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[0:27] <pigrit> and a midi out
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[0:30] <Gadgetoid> I need a working midi-out-a-majig, mines bust. Must remember to search!
[0:31] <ali1234> the pi serial port supports non-standard baud rates right?
[0:32] <Gadgetoid> Why bother when USB works so well? Sounds like effort :D
[0:32] <ali1234> a lot of people don't like USB MIDI due to the latency
[0:32] <ali1234> can't say i noticed any difference but then i'm not a musician
[0:33] <pigrit> yeah but generally you just switch to ASIO and tada, no more lag
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[0:33] <pigrit> source: what we did last time a pianist friend was around
[0:34] <pigrit> but anyway I made it with an arduino
[0:34] <pigrit> no usb there if I recall
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[0:43] <Gadgetoid> Aaaand now I must sleep!
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[0:44] <Gadgetoid> Sheesh, it's way later than I wanted, grumble!
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[2:37] <pigrit> uhm, is the soldering "gun" meant to smoke ?
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[2:39] <ozzzy> depends what you have on it
[2:40] <pigrit> I just plugged it in
[2:40] <ozzzy> which part is smoking
[2:40] <pigrit> the prong
[2:40] <pigrit> nozzle
[2:40] <pigrit> dunno how to call it
[2:41] <pigrit> it's pistol shaped, it's even got a trigger and I have no idea what for
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[2:41] <pigrit> also it's been on a few minutes now and it doesn't melt a thing, I'm starting to wonder if it's a hot glue gun
[2:41] <mlelstv> maybe it's a flame thrower?
[2:42] <Berg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLfXXRfRIzY
[2:42] <Berg> sounds like a glue gun
[2:42] <ozzzy> yeah... that sounds like a glue gun not a soldering gun
[2:42] <ozzzy> unless it's one of those huge electrician soldering guns
[2:43] <ozzzy> which aren't good for small projects at all
[2:43] <pigrit> it finally started melting the tin
[2:44] <pigrit> but instead of dripping it clots
[2:44] <pigrit> grrr
[2:44] <ozzzy> I have no idea what you're talking about... find a pic of it online
[2:44] <mlelstv> pigrit, you know what you are doing? :)
[2:44] <methuzla> dripping? clotting? what kind of soldering iron is this??
[2:44] <Berg> my wife fell off the roof
[2:44] <pigrit> D:
[2:45] <Berg> maybe should solder her foot to the tin roof
[2:45] <pigrit> what was she doing on the roof
[2:45] <mlelstv> don't let your hands or other bodily parts clot
[2:45] <Berg> i dont care what she was up there for i wona know who let her off the chain
[2:45] <Berg> <---sick joke
[2:46] <pigrit> http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1996308780_2/High-quality-original-authentic-NYLEO-Nelly-Australia-45W-65W-dual-manual-feed-tin-soldering-gun-Gun.jpg
[2:46] <Berg> your solder goes hard on the tip of the gun?
[2:46] <pigrit> ooer
[2:46] <pigrit> elaborate plz
[2:47] <pigrit> mlelstv: no D:
[2:47] <Berg> the iron might need to be hotter if it clots
[2:47] <Berg> thats one them self feeding irons?
[2:47] <methuzla> that's a soldering iron
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[2:48] <pigrit> what's the bloody trigger for
[2:48] <methuzla> if you're just starting, not sure it's the best option
[2:48] <Berg> driving solder wire onto the tip
[2:49] <pigrit> methuzla: what's particularly wrong with it ?
[2:49] <methuzla> the manual feed
[2:49] <ozzzy> I've never seen one of those... I wouldn't use it on small projects
[2:49] <methuzla> or just having a feed at all
[2:49] <pigrit> I was holding the wire in the other hand
[2:49] <Berg> thats will work
[2:50] <methuzla> guess you can use it that way, as long as that feed thing doesn't get in the way
[2:50] <pigrit> I mean, whatever shape it is, the point is it's a bit of pointy metal that gets hot
[2:50] <Berg> hit it with a hammer
[2:50] <pigrit> now, I've seen soldering before, by someone who could do it
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[2:51] <Berg> that pointy bit transfers heat to the job allowing solder to joint it
[2:51] <pigrit> and the tin goes liquid and drips/sits in place
[2:51] <Berg> i posted a link to you tube showing how to solder
[2:51] <Berg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLfXXRfRIzY
[2:51] <pigrit> gonna watch it momentarily
[2:51] <methuzla> yeah, it doesn't just drip into place
[2:52] <pigrit> what it looked like now instead was the tin just disappearing with a fizz
[2:52] <pigrit> and/or running away from the solderer/condensating in small instantly solid blobs
[2:53] <methuzla> not enough heat on subject? maybe watch video?
[2:53] <mlelstv> or maybe use a proper tool :)
[2:54] <pigrit> what's wrong with it
[2:54] <methuzla> or that, i think a basic pencil iron would be better
[2:54] <mlelstv> a soldering gun is for large pieces of metal.
[2:56] <pigrit> ooo
[2:57] <pigrit> so you don't touch the solder with the solderer
[2:57] <pigrit> intriguing
[2:58] <mlelstv> what are trying to achieve?
[2:59] <pigrit> putting headers on a lcd
[3:00] <mlelstv> ambitious
[3:01] <pigrit> it is ? D:
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[3:02] <mlelstv> do you also slice bread with an axe ?
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[3:02] <pigrit> to be honest, the available space for each pin seems much less than the smallest blob of solder I can muster
[3:03] <ozzzy> so you put the header in the holes.... you hold the hot part of the iron to the header/hole.... then touch the solder to the joint
[3:03] <mlelstv> I hope you have some spare lcds :)
[3:03] <ozzzy> don't mess with the feeder
[3:03] <pigrit> it doesn't look like a pencil solderer would make any difference :D
[3:04] <ozzzy> there's lots of room
[3:04] <mlelstv> well, there are a) smaller solderers and b) these are usually temperature controlled
[3:05] <pigrit> oho ?
[3:05] <ozzzy> I like my Ayoue
[3:05] <pigrit> pigrit is listening
[3:05] <mlelstv> and c) it depends on the solder too
[3:05] <Berg> i have a solder iron i made in school in 1957
[3:05] <Berg> its still good
[3:05] <methuzla> d) different tips
[3:06] <pigrit> can you leave the solderer plugged in, or does it overheat or something
[3:07] <methuzla> leave it plugged in
[3:07] <ozzzy> don't leave it plugged in forever
[3:07] <ozzzy> LOL
[3:07] <methuzla> unplug when done with job
[3:08] <pigrit> obviously
[3:08] <Berg> how do you test if its hot enough ...lick it?
[3:08] <ozzzy> mine tells me
[3:08] <pigrit> that's a good question
[3:09] <Berg> how?
[3:09] <ozzzy> it shows the temperature and beeps when it reaches the temp I've set
[3:09] <Berg> sounds nice
[3:09] <methuzla> by how the solder reacts
[3:09] <pigrit> pic-ture pic-ture
[3:09] <Berg> he need to see so he can buy one ozzzy
[3:09] <mlelstv> you can also touch it with your fingertips. If they bleed it's not hot enough.
[3:10] <ozzzy> http://www.amazon.com/Aoyue-2900-Lead-Soldering-Station/dp/B000ZPUKQ4
[3:10] <Berg> its industrial espionage
[3:10] <pigrit> well I got this one from a chinese shop for a tenner
[3:10] <pigrit> I assume people usually buy better ones
[3:10] <Berg> you can buy them from 2 dollar shop here
[3:10] <Berg> they not worth a quid
[3:10] <pigrit> la-di-dah countess
[3:11] <pigrit> fancy much
[3:11] <Berg> bite the bullet and buy a good pencil one
[3:11] <methuzla> you need to solder with hand-me-down pencil iron for 20 years before buying a temperature controlled soldering station
[3:11] <methuzla> grasshopper
[3:11] <mlelstv> don't ask us later why we didn't warn you :)
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[3:11] <uriah> mlelstv: lol
[3:11] <uriah> oops
[3:11] <uriah> methuzla: lol
[3:12] <mlelstv> and don't forget to let someone make pics
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[3:12] <pigrit> yeah got to document how I throw away my first 1602 lcd
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[3:13] <uriah> how does that aoyue iron compare to the cheaper sparkfun 907b?
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[3:14] <uriah> sorry, i meant 937b
[3:14] <uriah> just checked
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[3:15] <uriah> looks like i mean this one: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/retired/10707
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[3:16] <uriah> the one on amazon has different max wattage, is digital, etc.
[3:16] <uriah> 30 minute auto shutoff is nice too
[3:16] <pigrit> it's supposed to take a few minutes to heat up, is it ?
[3:16] <uriah> i guess it's worth the extra 35$?
[3:17] <uriah> pigrit: which one are you talking about?
[3:17] <pigrit> any
[3:17] <uriah> oh
[3:17] <uriah> usually maybe 15 seconds?
[3:17] <pigrit> uhm
[3:17] <uriah> if you want to wait 30
[3:17] <uriah> that's ok too
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[3:18] <uriah> honestly, the one i have will have a solid red LED on when heating, then will blink slowly when it's at desired temperature
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[3:18] <uriah> and it doesn't take very long
[3:18] <uriah> a few minutes is a long time...
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[3:21] <pigrit> maybe it's just shite :D
[3:21] <pigrit> I'll look for a traditional one next time I'm out
[3:22] <pigrit> from a diy shop this time
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[3:25] <pigrit> yay I've done a wire
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[3:29] <awz> anyone with a RPi and a picam?
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[3:32] <pigrit> yes
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[3:32] <k_j> is it true that the current camera module is discontinued a new one will be out soon?
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[3:32] <pigrit> by the way, I see how the pencil solderer is better
[3:32] <pigrit> this thing is unwieldy
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[3:33] <methuzla> k_j why would you think that?
[3:33] <k_j> methuzla, i found some posts in the forum saying this
[3:33] <methuzla> link
[3:34] <k_j> methuzla, https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=106055
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[3:36] <daveake> The existing sensor is end-of-life
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[3:39] <methuzla> well i guess if the sensor is eol, they'll have to do something once existing inventory is exhausted
[3:41] <methuzla> current camera module is still available, i don't think i'd call it 'discontinued'
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[3:46] <awz> pigrit help me mate
[3:47] <daveake> AIUI it's no longer made and RPI bought up the remaining stock
[3:47] <awz> daveake do you have a picam?
[3:47] <methuzla> awz just ask your question
[3:47] <daveake> one or 10 yes
[3:48] <awz> I am participating in Google Code In
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[3:48] <awz> And they have given me a task to make a script to capture 10 images from a RPi and then upload all the things in a github repo.
[3:48] <awz> I have a RPi.
[3:48] <awz> But not a camera.
[3:48] <awz> Someone run that script?
[3:49] <methuzla> pastebin script
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[3:49] <pigrit> whut whut
[3:49] <pigrit> I finished the header :(
[3:50] <pigrit> I'm almost sure it shorts in 3 points
[3:51] <awz> methuzla, http://pastebin.com/q0NTa3MV
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[3:55] <methuzla> how do you deal with login?
[3:56] <awz> I cached it.
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[3:56] <awz> on my pi^
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[4:00] <awz> methuzla pm? (or irc equivalent) :P
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[4:06] <pigrit> oooo the lcd turns on
[4:06] <pigrit> well, makes light
[4:07] <pigrit> that's as much as I can tell so far
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[4:09] <k_j> daveake, so the rpi is working on another module?
[4:10] <k_j> rpf
[4:13] <pigrit> err, model 2 B is the 1gb one, right ? and model B+ the 512mb
[4:13] <[Saint]> No.
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[4:14] <methuzla> yes
[4:15] <pigrit> it's got to be, I got 1x 2b and 2x b+
[4:15] <[Saint]> Oh...errr, hmmmm. Yes. I misread. It's is somewhat confusing. "Pi 2 Model B" is the 1GB one, but the B2 is the 512MB one.
[4:16] <pigrit> well thank gods for that
[4:16] <[Saint]> I misread your post as "B 2", sorry.
[4:16] <pigrit> :D
[4:16] <[Saint]> RPF didn;t exactly go out of their way to make this non-confusing.
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[4:17] <python476> big slug, medium slug, tiny slug, big quick
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[4:19] <[Saint]> ancient forgotten esoteric silicon A, ancient forgotten esoteric silicon B, ancient forgotten esoteric silicon B2, ancient forgotten esoteric silicon B+, "the ARMv7 one", ancient forgotten esoteric silicon Zero.
[4:20] <methuzla> so much v6 hate
[4:20] <ozzzy> I wish I could think of something useful for my ancient forgotten esoteric silicon to do
[4:21] <[Saint]> "Oh-crap-what-the-Hell-do-we-do with-all-this-leftover-ARMv6-Silicon-B2+"
[4:21] <ozzzy> or what the hell do we do with the ARMv7 one
[4:22] <[Saint]> It is my sincere belief that the raspi zero was the "Man...we've really gotta get rid of all this ancient silicon" model.
[4:23] <nebadon> lol
[4:23] <Anorion> I have no problem with this
[4:23] <[Saint]> Otherwise, there appears to be no good reason to not use the ARMv7 variant of the SoC.
[4:23] <Anorion> I want one to make a food timer for my cat >_>
[4:23] <[Saint]> Heh. :)
[4:24] <[Saint]> I need to do something similar. We have 6 cats (yeah yeah, I know, insert crazy-cat-guy meme here), and all of them except one are happy to just snack on the food that we put down.
[4:24] <Anorion> our cat is a little fatty
[4:24] <[Saint]> The other one, though, coincidentally named "Tiny", will sit there and demolish every single scrap of food we put down.
[4:24] <Anorion> or would be if we let him have free run of the food
[4:24] <Anorion> yep
[4:24] <[Saint]> "tiny" weighs 12kg.
[4:25] <[Saint]> that's ~3 regular sized cats, lol
[4:25] <[Saint]> We even needed to put a child safety lock on the cupboard that we keep the cat biscuits in.
[4:26] <[Saint]> He figured out how to open it and has ripped apart the cat biscuit bag one too many times.
[4:26] <[Saint]> He'll eat until he throws up, and then eat some more, because he now has room to eat more after throwing up.
[4:26] <[Saint]> We thought he had worms at one point, but, nope. He's just a fat-ass.
[4:30] <[Saint]> The veterinarian thinks it might have something to do with him being a wild cat. His mother and father were feral cats and probably taught him to eat quickly and in bulk during times of plenty - that's what we figure, anyway.
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[4:36] <Mr_Sheesh> [Saint] - With my cat who's from a hoarder house, what I've done is to make her ask me for breakfast, dinner, water, treats, etc. and it seems like it breaks that pattern SOMEWHAT with her, tho she still inhales treats in femtoseconds, she at least doesn't ask me for water thousands of times a day, just gets POed if I let the water dish get low, which ofc I try not to do!
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[4:39] <[Saint]> Tiny likes to drink from a running tap.
[4:39] <[Saint]> He doesn't drink standing water like the other "common folk" cats.
[4:39] <[Saint]> He's too good for that.
[4:39] <Mr_Sheesh> Francine'd love that if she could talk me into it often. But she's OK so long she can get water ALWAYS.
[4:39] <[Saint]> He must drink out of a tap, preferably the mixer tap in the kitchen sink.
[4:40] <[Saint]> Heh. Francine. That's a cool name.
[4:40] <[Saint]> I bet she's a real princess/beautiful cat, with a name like Francine.
[4:42] <Mr_Sheesh> Torti Calico, she's learned that some humans SUCK, but has been meeting good ones lately :)
[4:42] <Mr_Sheesh> She's an extrovert and typical manager / supervisor cat
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[4:46] <[Saint]> We have Jae Jae (female champagne/ginger domestic longhair - very rare colouration for a female cat), Tiger or "Tig Tig" (female domestic longhair silver tabby), Poska (male tortoiseshell domestic longhair - very rare colouration for a male cat), Willow or "Wizzy" (male jet black domestic longhair),
[4:46] <[Saint]> Tiny (male black and white wild-born domestic longhair - EXTREMELY fluffy, and EXTREMELY large cat), and Gingie or "Ging-ging" (male ginger tabby domestic wirehair).
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[4:48] <Mr_Sheesh> My other one's Linda, another Calico; Introvert kitty. Tho she's getting less introverted
[4:50] <[Saint]> Prepare to have your heart melted, this is Tiggy, the prettiest kitten in the world:
[4:50] <[Saint]> http://i.imgur.com/QNu6mAd.jpg
[4:50] <[Saint]> She knows it too. She spends all day making sure she's beautiful.
[4:53] <[Saint]> And this is Jae Jae, she's a real princess, she's the Monarch around here. What she says goes:
[4:53] <[Saint]> http://imgur.com/a/sEhn8
[4:53] <[Saint]> She rules over her subjects with an iron paw.
[4:54] <[Saint]> This is Willow, being all majestic in black and white:
[4:54] <[Saint]> http://i.imgur.com/bOVTYUr.jpg
[4:56] <[Saint]> Tig Tig again, a few months older, being all serious and majestic:
[4:57] <[Saint]> http://i.imgur.com/kNSBjZ9.jpg
[4:57] <Berg> nice ingredient for chinee dinner
[4:57] <Berg> yum
[4:58] <[Saint]> >.>
[4:58] * [Saint] sens Tig Tig over to bite Berg's toes off as he sleeps
[4:58] <[Saint]> *sends
[4:58] <Berg> its day time atm no sleeping done here
[4:58] <Berg> ner ner
[4:58] <Berg> you have any salt
[4:59] <Berg> yum
[4:59] <[Saint]> She can wait, she's very patient, like a fluffy 'lil ninja.
[5:00] <[Saint]> I frequently awaken in searing pain because she's crawled under the duvet and decided to go on a stealth mission to murder some toes.
[5:00] <[Saint]> She likes biting feet, for some reason.
[5:01] <python476> while we're cating
[5:01] <python476> http://imgur.com/gallery/BALT0No
[5:01] <Berg> we have no cats here
[5:01] <Berg> i ate them
[5:01] <[Saint]> python476: awwwwwwwwwww!
[5:01] <[Saint]> python476: is that yours?
[5:02] <Mr_Sheesh> You tried wool socks over your feet yet?
[5:03] <python476> [Saint]: I'm allergic to cats
[5:05] <[Saint]> Mr_Sheesh: do you have any pictures of your guys? I love tortoiseshell/calico kitties, tortoiseshell/calico and brindle/tortoiseshell cats have always been my favorites - they always seem to have such great personalities.
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[5:05] <[Saint]> They're almost always very unique and fun characters.
[5:05] <[Saint]> I don't think I've ever met a boring torti/brindle kitty.
[5:09] <pigrit> sooo anyone used the 1602 lcd ?
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[5:48] <semininja> Hi all
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[5:49] <semininja> I found some conflicting information about the minimum voltage at which a GPIO input pin will read high
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[5:50] <semininja> one site seemed fairly sure that it's 1.3v but most places quote 2.0v
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[5:50] <semininja> Does anyone have any experience that can corroborate one of these numbers?
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[5:53] <semininja> Alternatively, does anyone know if it would be safe to send a signal to the MISO pin at 3.8v?
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[6:12] <semininja> anyone here active?
[6:12] <pigrit> yup I just have no clue
[6:13] <methuzla> active, or have experience with CMOS logic levels and SPI voltage tolerances?
[6:13] <semininja> either
[6:13] <semininja> what's an easy way to drop .5v in very little pcb space?
[6:13] <semininja> should I just use a voltage divider?
[6:20] <Mr_Sheesh> or a diode (schottkys drop close to .5V if you don't need exactly .5V)
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[6:21] <semininja> I guess when it comes down to it it just needs to be =<3.3 and probably more than 2v
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[6:25] <Mr_Sheesh> reg. diodes like a 1n4001 drop .6 to .7V (depends on current)
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[7:47] <pigrit> noob question: if I'm looking at a circuit that calls for gpio1 and gpio2, can I use whichever else pins I like as long as I adjust the code ?
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[8:00] <[Saint]> pigrit: not _whichever_ pins you like, but, different ones, sure.
[8:01] <[Saint]> ie. don't you the 3.3V or 5V rails, or GND.
[8:01] <[Saint]> *don't use
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[8:03] * [Saint] is making a raspberrypi powered "incense burner" for precise heating control and vaporization of "incense"
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[8:06] <drink1n> sup guys!
[8:06] <drink1n> anyone using Pi for drones?
[8:06] <drink1n> coz I am getting one
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[8:10] <[Saint]> drink1n: I wouldn't think the pi to be particularly well suited for drone operation
[8:11] <[Saint]> autonomous flight requires rather a lot of very precise and very fast metrics to be processed.
[8:13] <drink1n> [Saint]: actually im planning on sending this Pi to the sky on drone. Drone will use its own flight control system.
[8:13] <drink1n> Pi does the server stuff.
[8:14] <[Saint]> ah.
[8:14] <[Saint]> probably overkill then, no?
[8:14] <Mr_Sheesh> so the Pi is gonna be that lil file server in the sky?
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[8:19] <ackpacket> I'm throwing a pi in a system, and it only needs to perform a very very small function (translating a file to another format). What can I do to protect this PI long term if this system will be prone to improper shutodwns?
[8:20] <[Saint]> ackpacket: make / RO and do all your functions in a tmpfs.
[8:20] <[Saint]> (RAMdisk)
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[8:21] <[Saint]> tmp is a tmpfs by default on the major rpi distributions, but, by default tmp may disallow execution.
[8:21] <ackpacket> [Saint]: This is a pretty stable configuration? and / isn't changed by any of the booting operations?
[8:21] <[Saint]> Not if it's mounted read only it won't be. ;)
[8:21] <ackpacket> [Saint]: Do I have to go to each installed program that *may* want to write to disk, and configure it to use the ramdisk? Or will they quietly just try to complain to some log?
[8:22] <[Saint]> and, yes, it is fairly stable - but you'll have to divert some logging functions.
[8:22] <ackpacket> Or... is that a case by case basis
[8:22] <[Saint]> the latter. except they won;t be able to complain to anything.
[8:22] <ackpacket> heh, that's why I said try ;)
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[8:22] <ackpacket> Hmm
[8:23] <[Saint]> your use case suggests there will be no need for the OS to do any updating, so once it's actually running, yes, this will be fairly stable.
[8:23] <ackpacket> what do you surmise would happen if I didn't change the logging location
[8:23] <[Saint]> it really is quite difficult to reliably protect against sudden power outage.
[8:23] <[Saint]> Nothing. You just wouldn;t get any logging.
[8:25] <[Saint]> The other options involve hardware, and are less clean, but possible more reliable.
[8:25] <ackpacket> I did see a few $30-$50 UPS units that shut it down through the gpio
[8:25] <[Saint]> A couple of really far caps in the power rail should give you enough time to do a forced clean shutdown on power off state detected.
[8:25] <ackpacket> not a fan of those?
[8:25] <[Saint]> *s/far/fat/g
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[8:26] <Mr_Sheesh> fat not far, I think [Saint] means
[8:26] * [Saint] nods
[8:27] <pigrit> [Saint]: oh nono I meant gpio for gpio
[8:27] <Mr_Sheesh> or maybe a LiIon cell
[8:27] <ackpacket> Then I have to worry about charging it
[8:28] <ackpacket> managing heat
[8:28] <ackpacket> and that probably changes a cluster-bomb worth of safety issues with the enclosure, which now contains a time delay flamethrower
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[8:34] <Mr_Sheesh> You say that like this is a bad thing? :p
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[8:36] <ackpacket> being responsible for someone elses safety changes things
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[8:43] <ackpacket> Welp, I guess a read only root is the way to go
[8:43] <ackpacket> paired with a high quality sd card
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[9:16] <AiGreek_> I can't decide how to do my interface. Flask (Python/Html/JS) or full python with Pygame (or Glade or something like that)
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[9:17] <Armand> Gopher!
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[9:20] <Lina> o/
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[10:33] <ScrumpyJack> most of the astronomy, chemestry or physics software I'd like to run on the rpi requires opengl to run, such as avogadro, or celestia or stallarium. Is there a list of scientific/educational stuff that works on the rpi?
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[10:50] <mlelstv> did you search the raspbian package list?
[10:51] <ShorTie> apt-cache search avogadro
[10:51] <ShorTie> avogadro - Molecular Graphics and Modelling System
[10:51] * ShorTie Thinkz, Seems there to me
[10:52] <mlelstv> same for the other two
[10:52] <simoneb> I bought two 3rd party xbox-compatible pads... same shop, same model... turns out they're different. one of them is not supported by xboxdrv 0.8.5, does anybody know if I can get 0.8.8 without compiling from source?
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[10:56] <ScrumpyJack> ShorTie: yes, the packages exist om the rasbian repo, but they require opengl to run, or at least that's what they claim when i run them
[10:57] <ScrumpyJack> s/om/in
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[11:00] <ShorTie> can you pastebin the whole attempt to run it ??
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[11:10] <mlelstv> raspbian supports opengl
[11:10] <mlelstv> what rpi is this?
[11:11] <mlelstv> you need enough memory for the gpu to use opengl
[11:12] <ScrumpyJack> model 1B
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[11:16] <mlelstv> the default installation should give you opengl
[11:16] <mlelstv> did you change anything?
[11:17] <ScrumpyJack> nope, just spinning raspbian up, and will take a look
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[12:29] <ScrumpyJack> i just get an X dialog window with "This system does not support OpenGL"
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[12:30] <ScrumpyJack> latest raspbian image from raspberrypi.org with libreoffice removed (to free space)
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[12:48] <mlelstv> what does raspi-config say about the memory split ?
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[12:55] <ScrumpyJack> 64Mb for the GPU
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[13:00] <AiGreek_> I just got all my Pi (2 and Zero). oh joy !
[13:00] <djazz> :D
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[13:03] <AiGreek_> so now .... what to do ...... xD
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[13:20] <mlelstv> scrumpyjack, please check wether you have libgl1-mesa-dri installed
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[14:24] <engblom> Does PiNet have a own channel? Or is this channel the right for asking questions about PiNet?
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[14:34] <ScrumpyJack> mlelstv: added. do i need to load a kernel module from that package?
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[14:37] <mlelstv> good question. what modules are in there?
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[14:38] <mlelstv> but for a start I'd just restart the X server
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[15:19] <TheWarden> Hello
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[15:20] <TheWarden> Does anyone have any good links on how to cross compile using http://github.com/raspberrypi/tools toolchain for c++?
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[17:11] <pigrit> can anyone confirm if the dht11 sensor wants 3.3 or 5v ?
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[17:26] <divx118> pigrit, It should take both http://www.micropik.com/PDF/dht11.pdf page 8
[17:27] * divx118 has to connect 2 of them soon...
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[17:28] <pigrit> I got one connected to 3.3
[17:29] <pigrit> but it fails reading 3 times out of 4
[17:29] <pigrit> I was wondering if it might just need more juice
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[17:29] <pigrit> also it's not particularly reactive if you blow on it/try to warm it up
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[17:33] <aphirst> OK I am in a pretty bad mood atm
[17:33] <aphirst> my rPi isn't getting ethernet connection any more on boot AND doesn't seem to be working with my atrix dock with the cables i got
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[17:33] <aphirst> i'm gonna flash an sd card with kobi and see if it does anything
[17:34] <aphirst> otherwise my madness will somewhat sharplyincrease
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[17:35] <aphirst> but yeah, not a happy bunny
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[17:35] <aphirst> *openelec
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[17:52] <ScrumpyJack> mlelstv: that worked, thank you
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[17:57] <Moonsilence> d
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[17:58] <Armand> e
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[18:17] <heller_> pigrit: dht22 works with pi
[18:17] <heller_> pigrit: do you have the pullup?
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[18:28] <pigrit> I wish I could answer that and look like I know what I'm saying
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[18:29] <pigrit> if you mean have I put any other component in there beside the sensor, no
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[18:30] <divx118> pigrit, I think heller_ is talking about page 5 of the link I gave you a 5k pullup on the data line
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[18:35] <pigrit> a-ha
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[18:38] <pigrit> of course in the manual & diagram by sunfounder, for the "sensors kit" by sunfounder, there is no mention of that
[18:41] <pigrit> why bother including a manual at all
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[18:42] <pigrit> and I only say that because of the last 12 hours spent tinkering, 11 went into patching up the examples from multiple kits on account of nothing working like described
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[20:02] <heller_> pigrit: http://www.automation-welt.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/AM2302_Pi.png basic setup of dhtXX
[20:02] <heller_> it will take 3-10k resistor
[20:02] <heller_> i think 4.7k is the normal one
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[20:09] <Gadgetoid> Has anyone successfully pushed a binary into the Pi Zero over USB yet?
[20:09] <Gadgetoid> I'm not sufficiently well versed with baremetal to know if it's the upload process, or my binary that's at fault
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[20:55] <deshipu> Gadgetoid: a binary over usb?
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[20:55] <deshipu> Gadgetoid: you mean from a USB pendrive?
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[20:57] <Gadgetoid> deshipu: nope, uploaded via the USB OTG port from a host computer
[20:58] <Gadgetoid> I have a suspicion it may need to be a videocore compatible binary at that point, but I'm not sure
[20:59] <Gadgetoid> The one supplied for the CM just sets up a visual mass storage device so you can image the onboard EMMC
[20:59] <Gadgetoid> virtual*
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[21:07] <mlelstv> what for?
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[21:16] <deshipu> Gadgetoid: I didn't even know you can do it
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[22:01] <uriah> hmm...
[22:02] <uriah> adafruit's website was down for a bit... i was hoping it would be because they're upgrading their servers to permit higher load in anticipation of having more pi zeroes :(
[22:02] <uriah> no such luck
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[22:37] <simoneb> I'm compiling xboxdrv on the pi. Does anybody know of any entertaining websites to watch meanwhile
[22:37] <simoneb> or any good jokes
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[22:38] <uriah> knock knock
[22:39] <simoneb> who's there?
[22:39] <uriah> zero pi's :(
[22:39] <uriah> hahaha
[22:39] <semininja> so /that/s why they called it that...
[22:39] <uriah> i'm getting a bit redundant xD
[22:39] <simoneb> i didn't get it, but I'm laughing anyway
[22:40] <uriah> they're prolly shipping a ton of them to the USA at the same time
[22:40] <simoneb> it must be a side effect of the compiler
[22:40] <Thymo> knock knock
[22:40] <uriah> who's there?
[22:40] <Thymo> docter
[22:40] <uriah> heheh
[22:40] <semininja> hur hur
[22:40] <uriah> the doctor
[22:40] <semininja> tell him if he needs to get in, the door's not soundproof
[22:41] <semininja> :P
[22:41] <simoneb> i don't know if i'm dumb or these jokes are actually hard to get if you aren't english native (or both)
[22:41] <semininja> that one was a reference to the show Doctor Who
[22:41] <semininja> the first one refers to the RPi Zero
[22:41] <simoneb> ahhh they don't air it over here unfortunately
[22:41] <semininja> which has been out of stock consistently
[22:41] <simoneb> I have one!
[22:41] <semininja> nice!
[22:41] <simoneb> I can sell it for 50$
[22:41] <uriah> simoneb: the doctor from doctor who (tv show)
[22:42] <uriah> simoneb: and, well, i was trying to be dramatic
[22:42] <uriah> for my joke
[22:42] <semininja> so I've got a question
[22:42] <uriah> simoneb: where do you live?
[22:42] <uriah> even canada has doctor who
[22:42] <simoneb> northern italy
[22:42] <uriah> ah ok :)
[22:42] <uriah> simoneb: netfix might have it
[22:42] <uriah> netflix*
[22:43] <deshipu> http://paste.sheep.art.pl/9453c96a-3313-4ebc-9d1e-4b841175bc2b/%2Binline
[22:43] <deshipu> another tiny hub
[22:43] * uriah needs 2 pi zeros atm, will settle with just one for now
[22:43] <uriah> deshipu: nice
[22:43] <semininja> I've been working on a project for which I designed a couple of PCBs, wondering if anyone else might have a need for something similar
[22:43] <simoneb> I'm not a fan of tv shows even if I could make an exception for doctor who (maybe)
[22:43] <deshipu> now I will solder a laptop camera module to the remaining wires
[22:43] <uriah> simoneb: ah ok
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[22:44] <simoneb> I like to watch ssh sessions with compiler messages scrolling
[22:44] <deshipu> simoneb: any sci-fi show sooner or later has time travel, at which point it has reached the bottom and can be ignored. Doctor Who *started* that way.
[22:44] <simoneb> lol
[22:44] <uriah> deshipu: hmm... how high is the laptop camera's resolution? it may be difficult to have enough bandwidth for both devices going to the pi
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[22:45] <deshipu> uriah: a $2 webcam module? let me think... ;)
[22:45] <semininja> the main one is a SPI-powered output board, 8-outs at 2.5W total
[22:45] <simoneb> in italy we have a series which is rumored to be the worse series ever, like something you would expect out of a bad bollywood movie
[22:45] <uriah> deshipu: oh ok :)
[22:45] <uriah> simoneb: italian spiderman? :D
[22:46] <deshipu> simoneb: like the Red Dwarf?
[22:46] <semininja> hahaha
[22:47] <semininja> I've been using these boards to power solenoid valves, but they'd work for high-power LEDs and such as well
[22:47] <uriah> oh wait
[22:47] <uriah> italian spiderman is actually australian :(
[22:47] <simoneb> deshipu: no, like really bad
[22:47] <simoneb> found it! it also has english subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8rIvnQD-JI (slightly nsfw)
[22:48] <uriah> simoneb: i've heard excellent progressive rock albums come out of Italy... do you know any?
[22:48] <simoneb> uriah: from the 70-80s you mean?
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[22:48] <uriah> maybe
[22:48] <semininja> simoneb, is that filmed on a handheld camera?
[22:48] <semininja> yeesh
[22:48] <uriah> there may be newer ones too
[22:48] <simoneb> uriah: Area were the totally most kickass band ever existed on earth
[22:48] <uriah> :)
[22:48] <uriah> better than planet x?
[22:49] <deshipu> simoneb: doesn't look sci-fi to me
[22:49] <simoneb> uriah: uhm, I don't know. let me hear something?
[22:50] <uriah> ok
[22:50] <simoneb> deshipu: no, I think it's some kind of unintendedly comedic drama
[22:50] <deshipu> simoneb: have you seen Ijon Tichy Raumpilot? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJjqnAheMDc
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[22:53] <simoneb> deshipu: you germans sure know how to make weird movies
[22:53] <uriah> simoneb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hn_WLRpZcY
[22:54] <deshipu> simoneb: I'm Polish
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[22:54] <uriah> virgil donati is among my favourite drummers <3
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[22:56] <simoneb> whoops! sounded like german, sorry
[22:56] <simoneb> uriah: are you a drummer?
[22:56] <uriah> simoneb: unfortunately youtube doesn't seem to have any high quality versions of any of planet x's songs :(
[22:56] <uriah> simoneb: a bit...
[22:56] <simoneb> i've been playing drums for about 15 years
[22:57] <uriah> i haven't really played regularly in the past 4.5 years, but i've recorded an album... not a very popular one :P
[22:57] <uriah> simoneb: nice :)
[22:57] <Kake_Fisk> I have set up ssh on my rpi and have used putty to interface it. But now when I tried to remote connect, it didn't work. Is this usual?
[22:57] <uriah> i never took any lessons though
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[22:58] <uriah> Kake_Fisk: what is the last thing you did on your rpi before disconnecting?
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[22:58] <Kake_Fisk> I don't remember that sorry.
[22:58] <semininja> Kake_Fisk, also, are you using wifi?
[22:58] <Kake_Fisk> yes
[22:59] <semininja> there's your problem
[22:59] <semininja> I haven't found a way to get a pi to stay connected using wifi
[22:59] <Kake_Fisk> Let me say that I can access the webserver on the pi remotely
[22:59] <Kake_Fisk> But not ftp, nor ssh
[22:59] <semininja> I don't know what it is, but I've not been able to consistently connect to ssh after a period of time on wifi
[23:00] <semininja> Ethernet never had any problems
[23:00] <uriah> simoneb: hmm... isn't there a way to disable low power in the wifi module, and therefore not force it to reinitialize, which is usually too much for the pi to handle?
[23:00] <Kake_Fisk> Ah, weird
[23:00] <uriah> oops
[23:00] <simoneb> uriah: this is one by Area https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTn5oV-QQqU notice the fucking singer/keyboardist playing the piano in 3/8 while singing in 5/8 and generally doing all kind of super crazy vocals
[23:00] <uriah> i meant that message for semininja ^
[23:00] <Kake_Fisk> That might be what's wrong then
[23:00] <semininja> Uriah, I tried that
[23:01] <uriah> hmm, ok
[23:01] <semininja> and a few other things that I can't remember
[23:01] <simoneb> uriah: not sure about the wifi question... i'm more of a Solaris guy (and maybe I could cue a relevant xkcd about iwconfig)
[23:01] <uriah> semininja: try using a powered usb hub... or jerry-rigging a usb cable to power the wifi adaptor separately
[23:01] <uriah> i did that for my usb LTE adaptor
[23:02] <uriah> simoneb: i like it so far :)
[23:02] <uriah> simoneb: reminds me a little bit of some gentle giant
[23:02] <semininja> what problem does that fix?
[23:02] <uriah> except gentle giant's drumming is usually simpler :P
[23:02] <uriah> semininja: the wifi adaptor will never use too much power from the pi and make it restart
[23:03] <semininja> I've got a high power adapter running the pi
[23:03] <semininja> and it stays running
[23:03] <simoneb> uriah: heh, they used a lot of odd tempos... the drummer was graduated at Cairo's music school
[23:03] <semininja> if I want to reconnect I actually have to force-reboot
[23:03] <uriah> semininja: also, if your problem is related to ssh, try the ServerAliveInterval option for client-side and ClientAliveInterval in sshd.conf ?
[23:04] <semininja> Are those related to a long-term active connection?
[23:04] <uriah> that will send a ping to the server / client every specified about of seconds to ensure that a connection remains up
[23:04] <uriah> so yes :)
[23:04] <uriah> s/about/amount/
[23:05] <semininja> Unfortunately, my problem is the opposite
[23:05] <uriah> my system is running out of coffee, sorry :-/ bad typing
[23:05] <uriah> semininja: oh? like you disconnect and then you can't connect again?
[23:05] <uriah> strange
[23:05] <semininja> I can stay connected when I connect, but I can't reconnect after a while if I don't pester it.
[23:05] <semininja> something times out
[23:05] <uriah> very strange
[23:05] <semininja> rather
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[23:06] <uriah> can you check whether sshd is still running properly using hdmi+keyboard?
[23:06] <semininja> the annoying thing is that it's on an RPi A+
[23:06] <uriah> hmm...
[23:06] <semininja> so I'd have to pull the adapter
[23:06] <uriah> if you're still testing, do so
[23:07] <uriah> i mean, nothing needs to stay up right now, right?
[23:07] <semininja> at the moment, I actually don't have a pi running
[23:07] <semininja> so no
[23:07] <uriah> heh ok
[23:07] <semininja> but that's because of another issue
[23:07] <uriah> so try pulling the wifi stick out and see if sshd is running correctly or somethign
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[23:07] <semininja> yeah
[23:08] <uriah> check your logs
[23:08] <uriah> there might be something related to no more tty's being available or something
[23:08] <semininja> wonder if you'd have any experience with the other problem
[23:08] <uriah> what is it? :)
[23:08] <semininja> I've got 4 uSD cards at the moment
[23:08] <semininja> 2 are brand-new
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[23:09] <semininja> 1 has been in my Pi2
[23:09] <semininja> 1 has been in my A+
[23:09] <semininja> the A+ one has been fine
[23:09] <semininja> the Pi2 one decided to stop working
[23:09] <uriah> completely?
[23:09] <uriah> like, if you put it in your laptop or something, nothing happens?
[23:10] <semininja> no
[23:10] <semininja> but
[23:10] <uriah> put it in your laptop, and run dmesg | tail -n 50
[23:10] <uriah> paste the output somewhere
[23:10] <semininja> I've re-flashed it a couple of times
[23:10] <uriah> ok
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[23:10] <semininja> and it refuses to boot in either pi
[23:10] <uriah> hmmmm....
[23:10] <uriah> strange
[23:10] <semininja> the same thing happens with the new cards
[23:10] <uriah> very strange
[23:10] <semininja> using a stock image
[23:10] <semininja> but
[23:10] <uriah> are you running linux on your laptop?
[23:11] <semininja> a cloned image from the working card (A+) also breaks but differently
[23:11] <uriah> :-/
[23:11] <uriah> what happens?
[23:11] <semininja> I've got a desktop and a laptop, both running Win10, and access to a linux machine
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[23:12] <semininja> the stock image results in a glitched display that slowly scans downward with a weird gradient of single-pixel lines
[23:12] <semininja> never see anything working except the LEDs
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[23:13] <semininja> the cloned A+ image boots, but something doesn't work right and I just get a broken login prompt with the user 'localhost'
[23:13] <uriah> hmm...
[23:13] <semininja> instead of 'semininja'
[23:13] <semininja> er
[23:13] <semininja> no
[23:13] <uriah> very strange
[23:13] <semininja> the user is something else, the host is 'localhost' instead of the correct one
[23:13] <uriah> ok
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[23:13] <uriah> what filesystem are you using?
[23:14] <semininja> for what?
[23:14] <uriah> the root partition on the sd card
[23:14] <semininja> is that not effected by the flashing?
[23:14] <uriah> shouldn't be, but there might be corruption
[23:14] <uriah> like... i've had bad experiences with xfs on rpi for example
[23:15] <semininja> I'd have thought that burning the image would set the formatting
[23:15] <uriah> yeah probably
[23:15] <uriah> there might be something wrong in the hardware
[23:15] <semininja> the weird thing is that one of them was working previously
[23:16] <uriah> what are you powering the pis with?
[23:16] <uriah> and how much is connected to them?
[23:16] <semininja> nothing connected during testing, powered from a charging brick
[23:16] <uriah> i strongly recommend using powered usb hubs for plugging stuff like wifi adaptors to the pi
[23:16] <semininja> or a powered hub
[23:16] <uriah> ok
[23:16] <semininja> the charging brick is high-current
[23:16] <uriah> what's the max current of these chargers / hub?
[23:17] <semininja> checking
[23:17] <uriah> also, do you have a multimeter?
[23:17] <semininja> yeah
[23:17] <uriah> ok
[23:17] <semininja> and the output on the charger is 2A
[23:17] <uriah> ok
[23:18] <uriah> shouldn't be a problem, unless it has become defective
[23:18] <semininja> hopefully not, as it's relatively new
[23:18] <uriah> but yeah, i'd suggest that if you don't care about the data on the sd card that started not working (if you do, back it up first), then run badblocks on the card in write mode to test it
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[23:19] <uriah> that's a linux command
[23:19] <uriah> so maybe run a livecd on your laptop to have reliable access to the sd card while doing tests
[23:19] <uriah> (this will take a long time)
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[23:21] <uriah> but also, if you don't mind cutting up and then resoldering your usb cable after testing, maybe test the power lines that go from the charger to the pi using your multimeter
[23:21] <semininja> I suspect it will; these are 64gb cards
[23:22] <semininja> I checked the 5v pin against ground, and it read 5v
[23:22] <semininja> just now
[23:22] <uriah> i had a power supply for a toslink DAC going from my TV to my speakers go bad recently, had to replace it with a phone charger lol
[23:22] <uriah> ok
[23:22] <uriah> then that may not be the problem...
[23:22] <uriah> another test you can do is cut the wire, and test the voltage while the pi is running
[23:22] <uriah> like...
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[23:23] <uriah> hmm, i probably don't need to show you a diagram, right? :P
[23:23] <semininja> probably :P
[23:23] <semininja> confirmed that the adapter works with a working card
[23:23] <uriah> ok
[23:23] <semininja> s/a/the
[23:24] <uriah> maybe try dd'ing the stock image to one of the new cards?
[23:24] <uriah> also, be warned that turning off the pi while there is i/o going on on the card can permanently damage the card
[23:24] <uriah> but you knew that already :D
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[23:34] <semininja> I'm starting to think that there's something about the stock image that's not cooperating with my display...
[23:34] <semininja> maybe not detecting the resolution right
[23:35] <semininja> brb
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[23:37] <semininja> song of a beach, that was it
[23:37] <uriah> orly
[23:37] <uriah> what stock image was it? noobs? raspbian? void?
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[23:37] <semininja> plugged it in to a monitor that's 1920x1080 and it worked
[23:37] <semininja> raspbian
[23:37] <semininja> jessie
[23:37] <uriah> hmm...
[23:37] <semininja> ****
[23:37] * uriah wonders if anyone else has the same problem
[23:38] * semininja is pissed
[23:38] <uriah> bah...
[23:38] <uriah> these things happen
[23:38] <semininja> friggin' 2 months I've been sitting here with one working pi
[23:39] <uriah> oh my...
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[23:39] <semininja> because it never occurred to me that the stupid thing wouldn't detect the resolution
[23:39] <uriah> what resolution is it?
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[23:40] <semininja> 800x480, IIRC
[23:40] <semininja> works fine with the A+
[23:40] <uriah> hmmm
[23:40] <semininja> er
[23:40] <uriah> file an issue on github i guess
[23:40] <semininja> with the 'working' card
[23:40] <semininja> link?
[23:40] <semininja> I don't know where to even look
[23:41] <uriah> well maybe it's raspbian specific
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[23:41] <uriah> https://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianBugs
[23:41] <semininja> should I post in the sub about it?
[23:42] <semininja> brb
[23:42] <uriah> k
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[23:44] <semininja> back
[23:45] <uriah> cool
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[23:46] <semininja> time for a PSA, I guess
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[23:48] <uriah> semininja: lol, where?
[23:48] <semininja> on the sub
[23:48] <uriah> hmm, ok
[23:48] <uriah> subreddit?
[23:48] <semininja> yeah
[23:49] <uriah> not the best place for a bug report ;)
[23:49] <uriah> go to the above link ^
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[23:49] <semininja> not as a bug report, just a PSA
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[23:50] <uriah> ok
[23:51] <simoneb> ..... the damn thing is still compiling xboxdrv, if I hit ctrl-z and "nohup bg" will it continue in background with no signals?
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[23:53] <uriah> simoneb: you should use screen for that ;)
[23:53] <uriah> too late now though
[23:53] <uriah> next time.
[23:53] <uriah> basically, how screen works:
[23:53] <uriah> run screen
[23:53] <simoneb> yea I was too lazy to install screen
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[23:53] <uriah> lol ok
[23:53] <simoneb> also tmux was not there
[23:53] <semininja> +5 for screen
[23:53] <uriah> i will stop explaning
[23:53] <simoneb> I somewhat thought one hour was enough for compiling the damn thing
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[23:53] <uriah> explaining*
[23:54] <uriah> simoneb: is it c++ or c?
[23:54] <semininja> is explaning like un-planing?
[23:54] <simoneb> I mean, how complicated can a xbox controller driver be?
[23:54] <simoneb> c++
[23:54] <uriah> semininja: :P
[23:54] <semininja> or deplaning?
[23:54] <uriah> simoneb: c++ takes a LOOOOOOOONNNNNGGG time to compile on the raspi
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[23:55] <uriah> try distributed cross-compiling with distcc, if you have another, more powerful linux machine
[23:55] <simoneb> yes... even on desktop :(
[23:55] <simoneb> but the real question is, why there is no updated xboxdrv?
[23:55] <uriah> what distribution?
[23:55] <simoneb> the latest version in the repo is from 2013
[23:55] <simoneb> raspbian
[23:55] <uriah> hmm...
[23:55] <uriah> dunno
[23:55] <simoneb> newest version is from november 2015
[23:56] <uriah> simoneb: what's the version number of the latest one?
[23:56] <uriah> 0.8.8?
[23:56] <simoneb> yes
[23:56] <uriah> simoneb: probably because debian/raspbian haven't caught up yet and it's still marked as unstable
[23:56] <uriah> void linux has the latest one
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[23:57] <uriah> https://github.com/voidlinux/void-packages/search?q%5B%5D=filename%3Atemplate+path%3A%2Fsrcpkgs&q%5B%5D=xboxdrv&s=indexed
[23:57] <uriah> voidlinux is a bit more hands-on, but not too much :)
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