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IRC Log for 2015-12-18

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[0:50] <__builtin> hello
[0:50] <__builtin> is the camera module compatible with the Zero?
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[0:56] <Groggy> Nope, no CSI-port
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[1:40] <PiGuy> Hello how can I port an SDL2 program to run on Raspbian Wheezy Linux?
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[1:43] <uriah> PiGuy: which game?
[1:43] <uriah> or program
[1:45] <PiGuy> uriah: Just porting a simple demo program I made
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[1:46] <uriah> oh ok
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[1:48] <PiGuy> uriah: Do you know how I could go about doing this?
[1:48] * uriah wants to make a 3D printed mouse or rat, put a pi zero in it, hook that up to motors/wheels and add some ultrasonic range finders to make an algorithm that avoids objects while running away from his cat
[1:48] <PiGuy> nice :)
[1:48] <uriah> PiGuy: is it a linux sdl demo?
[1:49] <PiGuy> uriah: No it is a C++, SDL2 demo program I made of the different libraries. I only used SDL2, SDL2_Mixer, SDL2_TTF, SDL2_Image, and SDL2_Net.
[1:49] <uriah> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-and-sdl/
[1:51] <uriah> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=58180
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[2:04] <PiGuy> uriah: Thanks the second one is great :) I need an Linux executable file. How can I make one of those? So basically a Linux Program Executable.
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[2:11] <uriah> PiGuy: you need to compile your code using gcc
[2:11] <uriah> PiGuy: you must have .cxx files of your project, right?
[2:11] <uriah> and, well, does the program you used to code your demo have an option to export and generate a makefile (if necessary)?
[2:12] <PiGuy> uriah: Yes I have all the source code.
[2:12] <uriah> ok
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[2:12] <uriah> cool
[2:12] <PiGuy> uriah: I am using Code::Blocks 13:12
[2:13] <uriah> ok
[2:13] <uriah> i had never heard of it before :)
[2:13] <PiGuy> uriah: It doesn't have any makefile makers working for 13:12 as far as I know
[2:13] <uriah> ok
[2:13] <PiGuy> uriah: :)
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[2:13] <uriah> PiGuy: how many cxx/cpp files does your project have?
[2:14] <PiGuy> uriah: I will check
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[2:16] <PiGuy> uriah: 41
[2:16] <PiGuy> uriah: .h and .cpp files make that total. I don't have any .c or .cxx files
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[2:36] <PiGuy> uriah: Are you still there?
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[2:51] <r_02> guys
[2:51] <r_02> question for u
[2:52] <r_02> i am following instructions on created ssh key to connect to my pi using keys
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[2:54] <r_02> when use command ssh-keygen and it makes my key
[2:54] <r_02> ask me where to put them
[2:54] <r_02> I cannot find them
[2:54] <r_02> i check that location
[2:54] <r_02> not there
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[3:00] <uriah> PiGuy: ok. you'll probably need to find a way to compile it using command-line i think
[3:00] <uriah> PiGuy: sorry, supper occured
[3:00] <uriah> :P
[3:00] <methuzla> PiGuy learn/use make
[3:00] <uriah> cmake*
[3:00] <uriah> ;)
[3:00] <uriah> it's newer
[3:00] <uriah> and apparently better?
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[3:01] <PiGuy> uriah: Alright, thanks :)
[3:01] <PiGuy> uriah: What do I do with CMake?
[3:02] <uriah> read a tutorial and follow the instructions :D
[3:02] <uriah> i don't know how to use it personally
[3:02] <methuzla> learn it, then use it
[3:02] * uriah is a programming noob, honestly
[3:02] * r_02 feels left out.
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[3:03] <uriah> https://cmake.org/documentation/
[3:03] <uriah> r_02: sorry
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[3:03] <uriah> r_02: where did you tell ssh-keygen to store the files?
[3:04] <uriah> and how did you try to access them?
[3:05] <PiGuy> Thanks uriah
[3:05] <uriah> no problem
[3:06] <uriah> PiGuy: but yeah, cmake/make are tools to automatically build your software in the right order, with the correct options, etc.
[3:06] <PiGuy> uriah: Can I get an executable program file?
[3:06] <uriah> yes
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[3:07] <uriah> PiGuy: but first you must make correct scripts for compiling your software
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[3:07] <uriah> and run them
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[3:07] <r_02> Saving the key failed: /home/pi/.ssh/id_rsa.
[3:07] <r_02> i see why they didnt show
[3:08] <r_02> it failed for some reason
[3:08] <uriah> hmm...
[3:08] <uriah> weird
[3:08] <uriah> that probably shouldn't have happened
[3:08] <r_02> right?
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[3:09] <PiGuy> Can I solder a speaker to the 3.5mm audio jack rather than using the plug?
[3:09] <uriah> PiGuy: no
[3:09] <uriah> PiGuy: you need to amplify the signal before having it go through a speaker
[3:10] <uriah> unless you want to 1) overload the pi's circuitry with current, and 2) have an extremely low volume ;)
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[3:10] <PiGuy> How can I have internal speakers and when the user plugs headphones in the audio switches
[3:11] <uriah> good question
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[3:13] <uriah> i was going to suggest something like this: https://www.adafruit.com/products/987
[3:13] <uriah> but it won't allow you to have the headphone option i think
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[3:16] <methuzla> PiGuy there are special jacks for that, they have internal shunts/switches that engage/disengage when headphones are plugged in
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[3:18] <PiGuy> uriah: Thanks
[3:18] <PiGuy> methuzla: I see
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[3:18] <PiGuy> methuzla: So I can't do that with a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B?
[3:19] <uriah> you'll need extra circuitry basically
[3:19] <methuzla> you could do it with any pi, just need to buy additional hardware and cables and such
[3:20] <uriah> yep
[3:20] <methuzla> cable would go: pi -> special headphone plug -> internal speaker
[3:20] <methuzla> with no headphone plugged in, internal speaker is connected
[3:20] <methuzla> and vice versa
[3:21] <PiGuy> uriah and methuzla: Great :)
[3:21] <PiGuy> I will go look for one
[3:21] <PiGuy> Wait what is it called?
[3:22] <methuzla> that i don't know, even the terms "plug" and "socket" get mixed up
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[3:25] <uriah> PiGuy: i don't know either, sorry :(
[3:26] <PiGuy> It's lright guys I will find it. Thanks :)
[3:27] <uriah> no problem
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[3:28] <methuzla> as an example:
[3:28] <methuzla> Amphenol ACJS-MV35-5 http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/18/55010544001110_acjx-mv35-x-771215.pdf
[3:29] <methuzla> how to wire:
[3:29] <methuzla> http://www.instructables.com/files/orig/FN7/M1YG/HP1KOT20/FN7M1YGHP1KOT20.jpg
[3:29] <methuzla> top plug goes to pi, internal speakers on left, headphones hook up on right
[3:30] <uriah> nice :)
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[4:22] <cstk421> can the PI GPIO's connect to usb ? having trouble finding a straight answer
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[4:22] <methuzla> for what purpose?
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[4:23] <cstk421> to interface with a daughterboard via usb
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[4:23] <cstk421> the daughterboard has multiple devices on it
[4:25] <methuzla> in general, not possible
[4:25] <cstk421> copy that
[4:25] <cstk421> that sucks
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[4:26] <methuzla> either use a different protocol that's exists on the gpio like i2c or spi
[4:26] <methuzla> or tie into the usb bus somehow
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[4:26] <cstk421> usb would def be easier. was just hoping to use the gpio's as a mounting method as well
[4:26] <cstk421> no biggie
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[5:21] <AMFT> anyone willing to give me some advice?
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[5:25] <Ispira> no one at all AMFT (Yes of course just ask your question :)
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[5:25] <AMFT> I am trying to get a list of components together for a project I am working on and need some guidance.
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[5:26] <Ispira> im definitely not the best for that but just ask
[5:26] <Ispira> someone will surely have an answer.
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[5:26] <cstk421> has anyone used rpi-monitor ?
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[5:26] <AMFT> I want to have my Pi scan for wifi SSIDs at a set interval and send the SSID names to a DAC to use as control voltages on a modular synth system
[5:27] <cstk421> beautiful web interface i have to say. what i wish is to have the ability to modify network settings and other variables via this web interface
[5:27] <AMFT> Or alternatively I would like for the pi to generate audio in real time using the SSIDs
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[5:30] <AMFT> I was thinking I could use a 12bit DAC connected via i2c but wanted to see what you guys thought before I order a bunch of stuff and it end up being useless
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[5:51] <digitalmouse> probably want to consider an intermediate step, AMFT where you take the list (let's say parsed in BASH or Python) or SSIDs, convert them to a numerical equivalent... like, for example, add all the letters together (as ASCII decimal values), then use that as a reference voltage for a DAC channel.. so "my_wifi" becomes 109 121 95 119 105 102 105 = 756.. convert that to a voltage range..perhaps 7.56 volts...then output
[5:51] <digitalmouse> that to the DAC
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[5:54] <digitalmouse> or just use that value to generate an audio tone .. in Mhz perhaps.. or if the synth can receive a numerical value as a musical note value, maybe that would be easier...via a USB port or serial port perhaps
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[5:54] <digitalmouse> ..or just leave the IRC room just before I type that whole thing... >.>
[5:56] <digitalmouse> gah .. hate it when i try to help, and the person doesn't bother to stay in the room long enough to receive the suggestion x.x
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[6:11] <r_02> finally got ssh auth keys to work
[6:12] <r_02> just gen some with puttygen and uploaded it to the pi
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[7:29] <irc_smirk> hello
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[7:35] <AiGreek> 'Morning guys
[7:35] <irc_smirk> hi
[7:36] <irc_smirk> so the pi 2 has quad processors. does that mean special software needs to take advatnage of it. or is it 4 times faster
[7:37] <Ispira> it doesn't have quad processors
[7:37] <Ispira> it has a quad-core processor
[7:38] <Ispira> nothing else has to be done on your end differently
[7:38] <Ispira> it's mainly up to individual software to support it.
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[7:40] <irc_smirk> well im torn between buying a zero or a pi 2
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[7:40] <AiGreek> buy both
[7:40] <irc_smirk> heh
[7:48] <Ispira> I'd do it
[7:48] <Ispira> $5 for a zero can't really go wrong, you know?
[7:48] <Ispira> The pi 2 is crazy powerful for what it is, as well.
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[7:48] <Ispira> My display cable is PROBABLY coming in tomorrow
[7:49] <Ispira> so I can finally use main
[7:49] <Ispira> mine*
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[7:51] <irc_smirk> i dont know how thye will keep up on production at that price
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[7:51] <irc_smirk> hwo much does it cost ot make
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[7:52] <Berg> THEY CANT BE BOUGHT IN AUSTRALIA WE TOO FAR FROM EARTH
[7:53] <Mr_Sheesh> Berg, I heard that those pesky dropbears eat too many of them, they won't try again till they get a hardware fix for that
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[7:53] <Berg> THE DROP BEARS are evil man eaters not hardware
[7:54] <Mr_Sheesh> Maybe they just bite them & spit them out, IDK, haven't seen a sample yet
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[7:56] <Berg> maybe they7 just smite them?
[7:57] <Mr_Sheesh> We'll see I guess
[7:57] <Berg> you need to wait under a tree be very very quiet for they are shy creatures
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[8:12] <maumushi> yesterday my pi2 froze .. i was copying some data (20 Gb) from an external hd attacched to my rpi to my pc over the network and, after few minutes, rpi froze and i had to unplug it ... on syslog i can't see anything
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[8:15] <AiGreek> perhaps he lost the connection ?!
[8:16] <maumushi> it's attached on eth
[8:16] <maumushi> but it's strange the complete freeze
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[8:18] <Ispira> overclock?
[8:18] <AiGreek> maybe it's stupid but .. what was the Temp at this moment ...?
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[8:19] <Ispira> yeah, is it overclocked and what about temps?
[8:20] <maumushi> no overclock; i have only one mount point under / with 19 gb availbale
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[8:29] <maumushi> could be a problem of usb attached to rpi? i'm using a powered usb hub .. but it's the first time in a year i'm having this problem
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[8:40] <Lonefish> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/39518/playing-wmv-with-codec-on-omxplayer
[8:41] <Lonefish> Anyone got any ideas today?
[8:41] <Lonefish> :( Getting desperate..
[8:42] <pigrit> that's what edison said
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[8:45] <pigrit> badum-tsss ?
[8:45] <pigrit> c'mon ladies, entertainment is a 2 way deal
[8:47] <pigrit> did anyone give much of a go to vocal recognition/command ?
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[8:55] <Ispira> hmm no but i might try that
[8:55] <AiGreek> pigrit if you talk english it will work fine and pretty easy to install
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[8:56] <Ispira> i'll challenege myself to get it working in russian
[8:56] <Lonefish> Don't even get the joke tbh :p I was a bit distracted, sorry :p
[8:58] <Lonefish> Google gives me "Desperate times call for desperate measures", pigrit ? :p
[9:00] <[Saint]> Lonefish: if it helps, you're not the only one.
[9:00] <Lonefish> Haha, thanks. I do remember the sentence, somewhere in the back of my mind. Never knew it was edison tho
[9:01] <[Saint]> It wasn't.
[9:01] <Lonefish> Apparently it's from hippocrates.
[9:01] <Lonefish> Yeah, just figured it out too.
[9:01] <Lonefish> pigrit: explain yourself, entertainer!
[9:02] <[Saint]> though Hippocrates said it slightly different, and, in latin. ;)
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[9:03] <[Saint]> " Nam calidissima morborum genera summa cura , ut restringenda sunt aptissima ."
[9:03] <Lonefish> It originated there, it's 9 am, still not fully awake, forgive me :p
[9:03] <[Saint]> - "For extreme diseases, extreme methods of cure as to restriction are suitable."
[9:03] <pigrit> ...no, no what are you talking about
[9:04] <pigrit> Lonefish said "anyone got any ideas today, getting desperate"
[9:04] * AiGreek offers a cup of coffee to Lonefish
[9:04] <Lonefish> For all I know you just called me a donkey in latin :p
[9:04] <[Saint]> Because Edison is well known for his supreme lack of ideas?
[9:04] <[Saint]> Mhm.
[9:04] * Lonefish bows gracefully
[9:04] <Berg> cake?
[9:05] <[Saint]> It's a lie Berg.
[9:05] <Berg> fine
[9:05] * Berg runs off with the cook
[9:05] <Lonefish> SEE, that one I do get.
[9:05] <Lonefish> No offence pigrit :p
[9:06] <pigrit> no worries fish bud
[9:06] * Lonefish blub
[9:06] <Berg> confusion is the illusion made by folks suffering from delusion
[9:06] <pigrit> AiGreek do you refer to sphinx or to anything else in particular
[9:07] <AiGreek> about what ?
[9:07] <pigrit> <AiGreek> pigrit if you talk english it will work fine and pretty easy to install
[9:07] <Berg> I tried voice recognition on my pi with a web cam for a mic it failed every time
[9:08] <AiGreek> ow yeah i try https://jasperproject.github.io/ If you talk english, he understand very well your orders. But for exemple, i'm french, and this work .......not so well
[9:08] <Berg> i dint wona use google program or web base tools as my pi is not on the net
[9:09] <pigrit> I tried jasper and some other that used google, but I was less than overwhelmed
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[9:09] <pigrit> not much by the recognition as by the responsiveness
[9:10] <Lonefish> Too slow? Or just doesn't pick up when it's being talked too?
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[9:10] <pigrit> I think the trickiest bit was it doesn't know when you're done talking
[9:10] <AiGreek> pigrit well, if you find something better, let us know
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[9:11] <AiGreek> it's pretty weird to talk to my house. "hey house ! Lights on !"
[9:11] <pigrit> so it waits a default length of time anyway, which is alot like having a lagged skype conversation
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[9:12] <pigrit> and if your command takes too long it cuts you off
[9:12] <Lonefish> you should be able to use an end command then?
[9:12] <pigrit> I'm thinking if it can be solved with push to talk
[9:12] <Lonefish> like house, lights please
[9:13] <Lonefish> and when it recognises please it cuts off
[9:13] <pigrit> then I'd have to wear a headset in the house like tony stark, which is cool enough
[9:13] <pigrit> ah, but it won't know you said please until it stops recording and compares the audio to the dictionary
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[9:13] <Lonefish> in that case ptt would be the way to go
[9:14] <AiGreek> that was almost exactly my old setup in my house
[9:14] <pigrit> ptt ?
[9:14] <pigrit> AiGreek the headset ?
[9:14] <AiGreek> headset and (3) screen(s) control
[9:14] <AiGreek> yes
[9:14] <pigrit> sweet
[9:14] <pigrit> push to talk ?
[9:14] <AiGreek> nop, always on. i didn't ever think to do PTT
[9:14] <pigrit> oh yeh ptt = push to talk, too XD
[9:15] <pigrit> it'd also avoid picking up stray voice
[9:15] <AiGreek> i don't even know how to do that ...
[9:15] <pigrit> oh, neither do I :D
[9:15] <Lonefish> ptt = push to talk
[9:16] <Lonefish> :p
[9:16] <AiGreek> ptt = poste, téléphone, télégraphe :x
[9:16] <Lonefish> Sigh. Frenc!
[9:16] <Lonefish> *h
[9:16] <pigrit> there's 500 people in here, surely we can come up with something
[9:17] <AiGreek> Lonefish shame on me, i know :(
[9:17] <pigrit> UNLEASH THE POWER OF THE GEEK
[9:17] <Lonefish> Haha, then why the greek nick?
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[9:17] <AiGreek> it's sort of a joke actually
[9:18] <ltik> Je parle en francais
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[9:18] <AiGreek> real french ? or you talk french like i talk english ?:p
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[9:19] <ltik> No shit french, je suis desolee
[9:20] <AiGreek> don't worry, french *** anyway ...
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[9:20] <AiGreek> pigrit if you want some fun, try TTS http://elinux.org/RPi_Text_to_Speech_(Speech_Synthesis) haha
[9:22] <pigrit> shall-we-play-a-game
[9:22] <pigrit> which-side-do-you-want
[9:22] <AiGreek> i choose the Force
[9:23] <Lonefish> Nice, a french guy that hates french. I like you already.
[9:24] <Lonefish> Belgian here, hating french (well mostly the language. And the dude that I lived with for 5 months.)
[9:24] <Lonefish> And your english is good, what are you talking about?
[9:25] <AiGreek> I must be honest. French people don't do, can't do anything. American and British people are SO MUCH more interresting !!! (and your TV Shows are better than our........)
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[9:25] <AiGreek> Thanks Lonefish i do my best to be understood
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[9:26] <Lonefish> It all starts with the idiots that dub the movies/series
[9:26] <Lonefish> I wouldn't have guessed you were french tbh
[9:26] <AiGreek> BUT !! funny thing. you have Justin Bieber, we don't \o/
[9:26] <pigrit> french are cool, didn't you see Hello Hello ?
[9:26] <Lonefish> They don't play it in france?
[9:27] <Lonefish> I'm guessing you're talking about the british series?
[9:27] <pigrit> of course I am
[9:27] <Lonefish> It's british.
[9:27] <Lonefish> :p
[9:27] <pigrit> so what, I'm italian and I still watched it
[9:28] <Lonefish> I just mean it doesn't have anything to do with how french people are :p
[9:28] <pigrit> it was another joke, as it's not even that funny a series
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[9:29] <Lonefish> Your jokes are weird pigrit. It was good. Typical british tho, but still good
[9:29] <pigrit> doesn't go much beyond ze madonna viz ze big boobies
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[9:29] <Lonefish> It is I! Leclerq!
[9:29] <pigrit> I admit I just had a good guffaw because I looked up a few lines and you mention you're belgian
[9:29] <pigrit> which would explain why you don't get any of the jokes :D
[9:29] <AiGreek> :D
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[9:30] <AiGreek> there are a lot of Belgian jokes .......
[9:30] <pigrit> and that's another joke, too
[9:30] <pigrit> it's funny cus it's true
[9:30] <Lonefish> enlighten me!
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[9:31] <pigrit> which countries do you guys mention in the "there's a x, a y, and a z" jokes ?
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[9:32] <pigrit> or "a x, a y and a z walk into a bar" if you prefer
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[9:32] <Lonefish> French german and netherlands usually
[9:32] <wili> hey :) did anyone tried to controll speed controller ESC (from RC car) via raspberry? something like this http://www.skyion.net/download/775instruction.jpg
[9:32] <wili> it has 3 pin connector from Receiver
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[9:33] <pigrit> see that's funny, each country has their own set
[9:33] <Lonefish> indeed
[9:33] <Lonefish> It's pretty obvious with the netherlands
[9:33] <pigrit> it's like syphilis
[9:33] <Lonefish> since we speak the same language, we have the exact same jokes
[9:33] <pigrit> every country calls it "the x disease" where x is usually the country they traditionally hate
[9:33] <Lonefish> they tell them about us and we tell them about them
[9:36] <AiGreek> pigrit I didn't know that Oo
[9:36] <pigrit> I hear the swedish chef in sweden is called the norwegian chef
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[9:36] <wili> :D
[9:36] <pigrit> which makes it inception-like funny
[9:36] <pigrit> because swedes think norwegians speak like the chef
[9:36] <pigrit> so they go to norway and take the piss by going bok bok bok
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[9:37] <pigrit> and the norwegians go "hey, they really do speak like the chef!"
[9:37] <AiGreek> (And now he's talking to himself)
[9:37] <pigrit> true story
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[9:40] <AiGreek> A little advice guys : Never order to https://www.kubii.fr/ ....
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[9:43] <pigrit> D:
[9:43] <pigrit> your advice might come a few hours too late
[9:43] <AiGreek> sorry :/
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[9:44] <pigrit> could you elaborate on the advice
[9:44] <pigrit> is it a fake shop
[9:44] <AiGreek> it's been a month since i ordered some things.... still nothing came at home
[9:45] <pigrit> and what have they got to say for themselves
[9:45] <AiGreek> "we don't know where is your package" -_-'
[9:45] <pigrit> is it "En cours de livraison" ?
[9:46] <AiGreek> yes, since 2 or 3 weeks now
[9:46] <pigrit> D:
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[9:46] <AiGreek> and i've a * how de we say* shiiping number (?)
[9:46] <pigrit> what about the tracker
[9:47] <pigrit> "suivre un colis"
[9:47] <pigrit> whatever that means
[9:47] <AiGreek> "Votre colis est prêt à être expédié, il va être remis à La Poste."
[9:47] <pigrit> that's what mine says too
[9:47] <AiGreek> "date : 01/12/2015"
[9:47] <pigrit> doesn't it mean it wasn't sent yet ?
[9:47] <pigrit> I don't speak french
[9:48] <AiGreek> normally yes but it's way to long !!
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[9:48] <pigrit> "your package is ready to be sent, x x x be x x the post office" ?
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[9:48] <pigrit> what's il va etre remis
[9:48] <AiGreek> "it will be send to the post office"
[9:49] <pigrit> so it's still with kubii, how don't they know where it is
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[9:51] <AiGreek> don't know ...
[9:51] <pigrit> I suppose you could cancel the payment with the credit card company
[9:52] <AiGreek> eveything is already paid and i don't want to cancel anything :(
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[9:53] <pigrit> they'd better get their act straight quick then, I ordered a display and I'm gonna hold my breath until it's here
[9:54] <AiGreek> the official display ?
[9:54] <pigrit> yup
[9:54] <AiGreek> *** too bad for you
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[9:54] <pigrit> it claimed "sent between 3 and 7 working days"
[9:55] <pigrit> I can hope
[9:55] <AiGreek> The reference 2473872, Official Touchscreen 7 "is late in its restocking. Indeed after a break up this last issue will be replenished in the week of 21 December 2015.Sorry for the inconvenience. (google trad)
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[9:55] <pigrit> when they're out of stock it says "out of stock"
[9:55] <pigrit> bum
[9:55] <pigrit> well, 21 dec week would still be good
[9:55] <pigrit> it is next week
[9:55] <AiGreek> it's is "out of stock" they try to cancel my order because of this screen
[9:56] <pigrit> "DISPONIBILITÉ : Stock fournisseur - disponible à partir du 20 Décembre"
[9:57] <pigrit> that looks good, doesn't it ?
[9:57] <pigrit> unless they mean 2016
[9:57] <AiGreek> 20 december available, but there is Holiday and New Year .... so ....2016 ^^
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[9:58] <Lonefish> and they're french. So 2016
[9:58] <pigrit> we can but hope, I take it you ordered one too
[9:58] <Lonefish> (Sorry, had to get it in there)
[9:59] <AiGreek> it was an easy one :p
[9:59] <Lonefish> indeed. Still warming up.
[9:59] <Lonefish> It's friday after all
[10:00] <AiGreek> the company is at something like 3 hours from me. I should get my package myself ><
[10:00] <Lonefish> 3 hours is still a lot.
[10:00] <Lonefish> That's more than belgium.
[10:01] <Lonefish> Belgium is like 2 hours
[10:01] <AiGreek> i know yes, i buy my cigarettes in Belgium ^^
[10:03] <Armand> I might have to go over there this year. �_�
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[10:04] <Lonefish> Haha, where are you from? up north I guess?
[10:04] <Lonefish> Armand: Belgium or France?
[10:04] <Armand> One, then the other..
[10:04] <Armand> :(
[10:04] <Lonefish> Poor you.
[10:04] <Armand> My wife is threatening a road trip.. �_�
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[10:05] <AiGreek> aoutch
[10:06] <AiGreek> Go to Paris, it's a nice time to be there ...
[10:06] <Armand> One of my colleagues here is a born Bulgie, so we said that we'd pass through.
[10:06] <Armand> We've been, I proposed there. ^_^
[10:07] <AiGreek> so cliché ^^'
[10:07] <Armand> Hell yeah.. lovelocks bridge and everything. :D
[10:07] <Armand> I'm planning a surprise trip for our next wedding anniversary.
[10:08] <Lonefish> indeed, very cliché :p
[10:08] <AiGreek> London could be an awesome surprise !! you can kiss the queen mom haha
[10:08] <Lonefish> You must live in 'the neighboorhoud' then if you plan on a roadtrip through belgium :p
[10:08] <Armand> AiGreek: Ain't she kinda dead ??!
[10:09] <AiGreek> "Honey for our anniversary, we will meet the Pi Foundation, cool isn't it ?"
[10:09] <Armand> Lonefish: Just outside London
[10:09] <AiGreek> Armand i hope not O_O
[10:10] <Armand> Died 30 March 2002 (aged 101)
[10:10] <Armand> She dead.
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[10:10] <AiGreek> it's not elisabeth 2 the queen ?
[10:10] <Myrtti> no?
[10:10] <AiGreek> she's not dead ....for now
[10:10] <Armand> Queen, yes... not the Queen Mother.
[10:11] <Armand> Different. ;)
[10:11] <Myrtti> but she's not 'queen mum' either
[10:11] <AiGreek> ow yes sorry >< something was lost in the traduction :x
[10:11] <Lonefish> Cersei is queen mother!
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[10:11] <Lonefish> Nice, always wanted to work in the uk actually..
[10:11] <AiGreek> me too
[10:12] <Armand> I'm in Slough, which is important in the UK internet market. :)
[10:12] <Armand> Lots of hosting providers/datacentres.
[10:12] <Armand> I work for a webhosting company that was recently acquired by HEG.
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[10:13] <Lonefish> sysadmin?
[10:13] <Armand> Yep :)
[10:13] <Armand> *Junior... lol
[10:13] <Lonefish> The geek of geeks :p
[10:14] <Lonefish> Meh, hate the junior part.
[10:14] <Lonefish> I don't even qualify as junior I think
[10:14] <Armand> Well, I was promoted from 1st Line support. :)
[10:14] <Lonefish> Congratz :)
[10:15] <Armand> Ohh, back in May 2014. :D
[10:15] <Armand> hehe
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[10:15] <Lonefish> Still, congratz!
[10:15] <Lonefish> Where's the cake?
[10:15] <Armand> Thanks. ^_^
[10:15] <Armand> Ate it
[10:15] <pigrit> ah, Slough, the Paris of the uk
[10:15] <Armand> lol
[10:15] <Lonefish> Is it that bad?
[10:16] <AiGreek> Lonefish I was gonna say the same thing :D
[10:16] <Armand> Slough is a dive... My wife and I are moving to Maidenhead. Much nicer.
[10:16] * Lonefish gives AiGreek a High-five
[10:16] <AiGreek> o/
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[10:21] <Lonefish> And what do you do, AiGreek
[10:21] <AiGreek> well, nothing
[10:22] <AiGreek> i was electrician in a small company a few months
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[10:23] <AiGreek> then order picker (don't know if it's the right word ...)
[10:23] <Lonefish> yeah
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[10:25] <AiGreek> so, if anyone have a job for me ... ^^
[10:25] <Lonefish> Haha, I'm thinking of switching.
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[10:25] <Lonefish> Or want to start a french-belgian raspberry startup?
[10:25] <Lonefish> As long as it doesn't involve WMV's, i'm in :p
[10:26] <AiGreek> ow too bad i actually have a GREAT project with a lot of wmv :(
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[10:26] <Lonefish> Haha :p
[10:26] <Lonefish> BURN IT.
[10:26] <AiGreek> why ? it works fine, i just need money to sell it
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[10:27] <pigrit> tts is fun
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[10:27] <Lonefish> meh, tts is fun for a while, but the computer voice gets boring
[10:28] <pigrit> well yes I don't mean FUN
[10:28] <pigrit> moderate, niche fun
[10:28] <pigrit> intrinsecally entropic
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[10:31] <AiGreek> i'm coding something ... every time I turn on the lights Homer Simpson say "Whohooo" or "Doh !" when i turn off the lights
[10:31] * AiGreek is bored ^^
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[10:32] <Lonefish> Haha, nice
[10:33] <AiGreek> And when he's screaming that mean that my Living room temp is too low
[10:33] <Lonefish> Like continuous screaming?
[10:33] <AiGreek> just once for now, i'm trying to repeat like three times the sound
[10:34] <Lonefish> You should loop until it's fine again.
[10:34] <Lonefish> Just to be sure you heard it
[10:34] <AiGreek> don't know if it's a good idea but yeah, why not ^^
[10:34] <pigrit> the episode you want is the one where he remembers finding smithers' dad's corpse
[10:35] <AiGreek> pigrit NO !!
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[10:35] <AiGreek> it will scared me to death in the middle of the night ^^'
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[10:35] <pigrit> it's a gem of endless senseless screaming
[10:35] <Lonefish> :p
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[10:36] <pigrit> or the one with the moaning caterpillar
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[10:36] <pigrit> I loved the little guy
[10:37] <AiGreek> http://s3cf.recapguide.com/img/tv/117/13x21/The-Simpsons-Season-13-Episode-21-2-da7a.jpg this one ? :D
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[10:38] <AiGreek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkP6TSi8QEQ
[10:39] <AiGreek> I'll find something
[10:40] <pigrit> yeh that's the caterpillar
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[10:47] <ScrumpyJack> ay. anyone have experience with the UPS PIco from PiModules?
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[11:06] <pigrit> the wife agrees that it's funny when the raspi says boobies
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[11:12] <Lonefish> Good wife
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[11:56] <gordonDrogon> morning ...
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[12:13] <pigrit> sup
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[12:19] <AiGreek> I just received my packet from RobotShop, yeah
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[12:38] <pksato> EEVblog #831 - Power A Micro With No Power Pin! https://youtu.be/2yFh7Vv0Paw
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[12:57] <gordonDrogon> there's a story about the first ARM working without the power being connected...
[12:59] <creazur> Has anyone tried Win10 with RasPi2? I'd like to know how well it could replace basic PC/laptop as portable solution for lighter use ie. e-mail and general web-browsing
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[13:02] <yang> What is the MAX size for the SD card of RPI-2
[13:03] <gordonDrogon> creazur, AIUI, it's Win 10 IoT - ie. intended an an embedded controller not a general purpose computer.
[13:04] <gordonDrogon> if you want a portable solution for email & web, get a smart phone - or use a Pi with Raspbian in a suitable case with screen, etc. Pi works fine for lightweight web & email.
[13:04] <gordonDrogon> yang, it would surprise me if there were a limit ...
[13:06] <creazur> gordonDrogon: Thanks, I just read about it quickly so I was't sure if it would be larger package to use as a normal PC or much smaller
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[13:09] <yang> Is there any scheduled production upgrade after RPI-2 ?
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[13:10] <gordonDrogon> yang, not sure what you mean - a version 3 or more Zeros being madE?
[13:11] <aphirst> what i want to know is
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[13:11] <aphirst> what will they call the successor to the Pi Zero
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> who knows. I don't know if a successor is even planned.
[13:11] <yang> gordonDrogon: I mean zero is less poiwerfull than RPI-2 , I am wondering if a more powerfull one than RPI-2 will be deisgned soon ?
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> no idea.
[13:12] <gordonDrogon> personally, I don't see a need for anything more powerful - however people always want more. 30 years ago a 2Mhz 8-bit micro with 32KB of RAM was sufficient to teach programming - to the people who now design the Pi, so ...
[13:14] <pksato> if need more power today, have other SBCs.
[13:14] <pksato> at high price.
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[13:15] <gordonDrogon> indeed - I use Atom based boards for SOHO type servers/routers for example
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[13:36] <malinus> What's (usually, i.e. in debian) the name of the service that detects when a new USB-device is connected, and loads the correct module?
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[13:36] <deshipu> malinus: udev
[13:37] <malinus> right, thanks deshipu
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[13:58] <molecular> hello. I'm trying to get audio to work in osmc on an old pi using mplayer. "aplay -l" says "no soundcards found...". snd_bcm2835 module is loaded. any ideas?
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[14:04] <pigrit> cat /proc/asound/cards ?
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[14:06] <molecular> root@osmc:~# cat /proc/asound/cards
[14:06] <molecular> --- no soundcards ---
[14:06] <molecular> ^ pigrit
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[14:06] <molecular> maybe I should just try raspbian instead of osmc?
[14:06] <pigrit> well at least it's consistant with what aplay said
[14:06] <molecular> :)
[14:06] <pigrit> never tried osmc, I wouldn't know
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[14:07] <molecular> I don't know how osmc is setup in this regard... had to "apt-get install alsa-utils" even
[14:07] <molecular> cannot find pulse or jack or anything...
[14:07] <molecular> I'll try raspbian...
[14:07] <molecular> thanks for your help pigrit
[14:08] <pigrit> all I can say is with raspbian it seems to work nicely
[14:08] <molecular> ok,... I /might/ get back to you in a minute ;)
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[14:11] <pigrit> on a scale 1 to 100 my competence on the subject is maybe 6, I just happen to be setting up sound too
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[14:11] <molecular> maybe some experts will hear us ;)
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[14:18] <Twistedgecko> anybody here?
[14:19] <Tzic> in body if not in spirit, as is generally the case in irc
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[14:19] <Twistedgecko> about 10 years since I used irc :)
[14:20] <Twistedgecko> wondered if anybody has any retropie advice
[14:20] <pigrit> I installed it yesterday on a pi 2
[14:20] <Twistedgecko> ...with an xbox one controller
[14:21] <Twistedgecko> running the joystick config shows it hot plugging/unplugging
[14:21] <Twistedgecko> but won't accept any buttons
[14:21] <pigrit> I'm using a logitech one but I'd have thought the xbox pad would be the easiest to setup
[14:22] <Twistedgecko> installed xboxdrv
[14:22] <Twistedgecko> as I said, on the config, shows the device
[14:22] <pigrit> plugging and unplugging, could it be a power issue ?
[14:22] <Twistedgecko> annoying the hell out of me
[14:22] <Twistedgecko> 10a power supply
[14:22] <pigrit> sweet
[14:22] <Twistedgecko> wondering if that's the issue
[14:22] <Twistedgecko> have 5M of less for hyperion
[14:23] <Twistedgecko> and it's showing 3 gamerpads
[14:23] <pigrit> 5M ? hyperion ? what ?
[14:23] <Twistedgecko> logitech wireless keyboard, xbox one controller... are the gpios showing something?
[14:23] <Twistedgecko> sorry 5m of leds
[14:23] <Twistedgecko> damn auto correct :)
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[14:24] <Twistedgecko> they're for kodi, not currently connected, but there's a connector on the gpios
[14:24] <pigrit> to be honest I hoped your question was along the lines of "is it any good"
[14:24] <Twistedgecko> is it any good?
[14:25] <pigrit> oh yeah I was surprised
[14:25] <Twistedgecko> rub it in why don't you
[14:25] <ali1234> it's not a power issue
[14:25] <pigrit> there goes my expertise
[14:26] <pigrit> tried a different usb port obviously ?
[14:26] <ali1234> power problems manifest in this order: first the power warning at 4.75V, then the pi will become unstable at about 4V, then USB devices stop working at about 3V
[14:26] <Twistedgecko> it's stable
[14:26] <pigrit> warning ? does it beep or something ?
[14:26] <Twistedgecko> shows the device
[14:26] <Twistedgecko> but nada
[14:27] <ali1234> the power LED turns off and you see a multicoloured square in the top right of the screen
[14:27] <pigrit> so if you're headless you don't know
[14:27] <pigrit> well bar the led
[14:27] <ali1234> basically the pi is far more sensitive to power problems than anything else in the system
[14:28] <ali1234> you can read back whether the LED is lit or not through a GPIO
[14:28] <Twistedgecko> i found that out with my first pi
[14:28] <Twistedgecko> the 5v 10a power supply fixed that
[14:28] <Twistedgecko> even if it is a chinese special
[14:28] <pigrit> I don't suppose you have another joypad to try
[14:28] <ali1234> it will help but don't overlook cable resistance
[14:28] <Twistedgecko> hmmm, it is on an extension
[14:29] <Twistedgecko> i will try without
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[14:29] <Twistedgecko> I forgot how awesome irc is
[14:29] <ali1234> a typical USB cable will easily drop your voltage by 0.2V if you try to put 1A through it
[14:29] <pigrit> irc rocks
[14:29] <Twistedgecko> do we still use fish?
[14:29] <pigrit> not that I've seen in 10-15 years
[14:29] * Twistedgecko thaws pigrit with a wet fish
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[14:30] <pigrit> oh novelty, it used to be a slap with a large trout
[14:30] <Twistedgecko> thwaps even
[14:30] <Twistedgecko> wine and 10 years of memory loss, fish was close enough
[14:30] <Twistedgecko> :)
[14:30] <pigrit> nowhere but on irc can you pester people in real time
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[14:31] <Twistedgecko> ok, going to try without the extension.... if that solves it, makes it a little pointless. Can't sit 30cm from a 70"tv
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[14:32] <ali1234> it won't help
[14:32] <ali1234> a much more likely explanation is that xboxdrv doesn't support your controller
[14:32] <pigrit> the logitech pad didn't need to install a thing
[14:33] <Twistedgecko> f310 or whatever?
[14:33] <pigrit> f310
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[14:33] <Twistedgecko> ali, it shows it as the correct device
[14:33] <Twistedgecko> google isn't much help
[14:33] <Twistedgecko> just shows it working for people!
[14:33] <pigrit> says 5V 500mA
[14:34] <pigrit> oh look there's a switch I've never seen
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[14:34] <ali1234> yes, the USB device name can be read over USB. but that doesn't mean xboxdrv knows how to talk to it
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[14:35] <ali1234> logitech pads will be normal HID devices, xbox pads are not because microsoft
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[14:35] <Twistedgecko> just a pita it just seems to work for some people
[14:35] <Twistedgecko> could be an older version
[14:36] <ali1234> could well be
[14:36] <ali1234> retropie is still based on raspbian wheezy
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[14:36] <Twistedgecko> yeah, I'm on the latest
[14:36] <ali1234> wheezy was released 6 months before the xbox one
[14:36] <pigrit> ...we not on wheezy anymore ?
[14:36] <Twistedgecko> the videos of it working are on earlier versions
[14:36] <pigrit> :o
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[14:37] <Twistedgecko> pigrit, all the cool kids are in 10 iot
[14:37] <Twistedgecko> win
[14:37] <Twistedgecko> damn my fat fingers tonight
[14:37] * Twistedgecko goes back to wine
[14:37] <pigrit> win10 ?
[14:38] <Twistedgecko> yeah, it by a company called microsoft
[14:38] <Twistedgecko> ;)
[14:38] <pigrit> yeah but
[14:38] <pigrit> there's a newer raspbian ?
[14:38] <Twistedgecko> jessie?
[14:38] <pigrit> I had no idea
[14:39] <pigrit> any reason to upgrade ?
[14:39] <Twistedgecko> what are you guys using the pi for?
[14:39] <Twistedgecko> I originally wanted to get my kids into programming
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[14:39] <Twistedgecko> then it took a back seat, and ran openelec
[14:39] <ali1234> i have a robot based on a A+
[14:40] <ali1234> a 2 that i use for microcontroller development
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> I have an oven based on an A+ :)
[14:40] <Twistedgecko> yeah, my son has mindstorm and I hoped it would peak his interest
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> no kids here, so I get to play :)
[14:41] <pigrit> currently 1 ip cam, 1 dns/squid server, 1 retropie, 1 prototyping/pissing about
[14:41] <ali1234> i have another 2 with the official display running retropie
[14:41] <Twistedgecko> ok ok ok
[14:41] <ali1234> and should get my zero in the next couple of days, which i'm going to make into a portable system
[14:41] <Twistedgecko> you have retropie... it doesn't want to play for me :)
[14:41] <ali1234> maybe inside a GBA shell
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[14:41] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/ovenPi-771x1024.jpg
[14:42] <Twistedgecko> I have a friend wanting a zero in an original xbox controller
[14:42] <Twistedgecko> want's me to do it
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> I tried to fit a zero inside my moto atrix lapdock - didn't fit )-:
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/IMG_20151128_194814.jpg
[14:43] <Twistedgecko> Gordon, needs more duct tape
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> epoxy..
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> or sugru, stuff like that.
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[14:43] <ali1234> i dunno how people can make circuits on protoboard like that
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[14:43] <Twistedgecko> no epoxy is too professional
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> hot glue then ...
[14:43] <Twistedgecko> duct tape makes it manly
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> ali1234, the perma proto board? It wasn't hard...
[14:44] <ali1234> hot glue is too unprofessional lol
[14:44] <ali1234> gordonDrogon: yes, or just any type of protoboard with just holes in it
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> I use proto boards all the time...
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[14:44] <Twistedgecko> tidy setup though
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> e.g. http://unicorn.drogon.net/pi17leds.jpg
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[14:45] <ali1234> yeah the push in ones are fine, i use those
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/tux-crossing/
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[14:45] <ali1234> i mean this http://www.circuitspecialists.com/content/111731/64-8932-0.jpg
[14:46] <ali1234> like, after you solder the components in, how do you connect everything together?
[14:46] <Twistedgecko> ali, that's my special
[14:46] <pigrit> no rails on the other side ?
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> oh that's just perf board. you wire it all up underneath.
[14:46] <ali1234> doesn't that just create a huge mess?
[14:46] <ali1234> stripboard i can deal with
[14:47] <Twistedgecko> that's where a project box comes into play
[14:47] <pigrit> it does if you solder like me
[14:47] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/adafruit-protoplate-for-the-rasbperry-pi/ <-- that's an early one from adafruit - there's pictures of the flip-side of it.
[14:47] <mlelstv> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiring_pencil
[14:47] <gordonDrogon> I used to use stripboard lots - in ye olden days ...
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[14:47] <gordonDrogon> stripbiard was cheaper than todays protoboards 35 years ago..
[14:48] <Twistedgecko> that's too old for me!
[14:48] <ali1234> yey my zero just arrived
[14:48] <Twistedgecko> I'm more, LETS GET IT GOING
[14:49] <Twistedgecko> yeah, I am not ordering yet, the $5 computer than will cost me $20
[14:49] <Twistedgecko> yay thanks Australia tax
[14:49] <gordonDrogon> I used to do a lot of wire-wrap too... lets see if I can dig up sole old stuff...
[14:49] <Twistedgecko> next you will be using valves
[14:49] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/6502front.jpg and http://unicorn.drogon.net/6502back.jpg
[14:50] <Twistedgecko> and use one pi to read a punch card to program the other ;)
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[14:50] <gordonDrogon> I only ever did one valve project and it was before I had a camera... However I'm looking at some cold cathode stuff right now ...
[14:51] <Twistedgecko> mate, your work is tidy, I can give you that
[14:51] <gordonDrogon> I learned to solder a long time back - when I was about 13-14 I think. Hm. 40 years ago now.
[14:51] <gordonDrogon> how time flies...
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[14:51] <mlelstv> less tidy after you had to modify some wires.
[14:51] <ali1234> i much prefer to make my own PCB
[14:52] <gordonDrogon> ali1234, yes - these days it's affordable (for some value of affordable).
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[14:53] <gordonDrogon> that was what my original ladder board was about - initially to see just how far free pcb design software had come and what the manufacturing process was like. https://projects.drogon.net/the-raspberry-ladder-board/
[14:53] <ali1234> i use press-n-peel
[14:53] <Twistedgecko> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmvqftuP8es&feature=youtu.be was my last project, not that impressive
[14:53] <ali1234> it's annoying and difficult, but less annoying and difficult than wire wrapping
[14:54] <gordonDrogon> it wasn't cheap, but my test-batch of 6 PCBs cost me under �100. the next 600 were far cheaper as the bulk discounts really kick in quickly.
[14:55] <ali1234> https://goo.gl/photos/5gKoXC9mwFUgqE5RA cost pennies to make
[14:55] <ali1234> took best part of a day to do it though, and it's single sided
[14:55] <Twistedgecko> guys... we digress
[14:55] <Twistedgecko> fix my controller problem ;)
[14:55] <gordonDrogon> not bad.
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> what controller?
[14:56] <Twistedgecko> the one that doesn't work :)
[14:56] <ali1234> xbox one controller and retropie
[14:56] <Twistedgecko> ^ beat me to it
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> ok. never used either - sorry.
[14:57] <Twistedgecko> not the end of the world
[14:57] <Twistedgecko> found playing old games doesn't make me feel how I thought it would
[14:57] <Twistedgecko> memories of amstrad, commodore and hours of games
[14:58] <Twistedgecko> now, it's "I played this???"
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[14:59] <ali1234> very few 8 bit games hold up today
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[14:59] <Twistedgecko> dizzy
[14:59] <Twistedgecko> bored of the rings
[14:59] <ali1234> a few gameboy classics
[14:59] <Twistedgecko> laser squad
[14:59] <Twistedgecko> feud
[14:59] <ali1234> why play laser squad when you can play UCOM instead
[14:59] <ali1234> *XCOM
[15:00] <Davespice> folks, first chance to see Tim live on the ISS in about 15 minutes: http://blogs.esa.int/tim-peake/2015/12/18/first-chance-to-see-tim-live/
[15:00] <ali1234> i wonder if you can install openxcom on retropie actually
[15:00] <ali1234> should be possible
[15:00] <Twistedgecko> because laser squad was part of my youth
[15:00] <Twistedgecko> there was the fantasy version too
[15:00] <ali1234> chaos
[15:00] <Twistedgecko> lords of midnight?
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> I have real computers to play retro games on... http://unicorn.drogon.net/lode.jpg
[15:01] <gordonDrogon> thanks, Davespice
[15:01] <Twistedgecko> runs 100x quicker on a pi!
[15:01] <ali1234> original xcom is the height of that style of gameplay though
[15:01] <ali1234> the new ones are good too, but it's different
[15:02] <ali1234> oh yeah they made a GBA game too
[15:02] <Draylor> hah, and proper old verbatim disks :)
[15:02] <ali1234> rebelstar: tactical command
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[15:04] <ali1234> Gadgetoid: so... i got all three headers in my project kit
[15:05] <ali1234> also, this page https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/adafruit-usb-cable-with-switch links to "USB wall adapters" - except you no longer sell the same product, it redirects to the official PSU, which is not compatible due to different connectors
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[15:07] <mullein> do the 1st gen rpis run c64 games in vice well?
[15:08] <ali1234> i haven't tried it, but it should be fine
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[15:09] <mullein> i'm hesitant to corrupt my nostalgic memories of 8 bit games with the probably less awesome reality of them
[15:09] <malinus> Hello. I'm trying to configure my kernel to use the UART0 as a tty from the very beginning (as I think it does when you use resbian). I'm doing the "kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200", but I only get the very first message
[15:09] <malinus> "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel."
[15:09] <malinus> And nothing else ever comes (no dmesg or login etc.)
[15:10] <ali1234> malinus: that line is for the kernel debugger
[15:10] <ali1234> you want "console=ttyAMA0,115200"
[15:10] <gordonDrogon> video keeps stalling )-:
[15:10] <malinus> ali1234: oh right, I have that one too. Still I only get the first message.
[15:11] <ali1234> did you enable the device tree?
[15:11] <malinus> Well the system works and boots (I can ssh into it etc.). It's just the UART
[15:11] <malinus> And yes
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[15:12] <ali1234> check it. it's the only thing that could cause this, really
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[15:12] <ali1234> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/device-tree.md
[15:13] <ali1234> assuming you are using an official kernel
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[15:14] <malinus> Yeah I'm using the official kernel. Let me check the device tree settings, thanks.
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[15:17] <malinus> Oh wait, I think I'm using a USB uart haha.
[15:18] <malinus> That shouldn't be causing an issue though. But who knows
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[16:10] <Magik6k> Hello, I'm trying to create some very light kernel .config, but I'm getting tons of messages like `fbtft_device.c:(.text+0x4efdc): multiple definition of `rtw_hal_antdiv_before_linked'`.
[16:10] <Magik6k> The config: http://hastebin.com/lobucocaru.sh
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[16:26] <roberth1990> hello
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[16:28] <roberth1990> I have small slowdowns here and there when playing video via kodi, is that usually caused by an inferior power supply or does playing video over dlna prone to cause that?
[16:28] <Spiffy> Is it over wireless?
[16:28] <roberth1990> yes
[16:29] <Spiffy> 95% of the time, that is the problem.
[16:29] <Spiffy> Connect the rpi with a cable and see how it goes
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[16:31] <roberth1990> ouch don't have any way to connect it with a cable
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[16:53] <roberth1990> but the thing is that it is sluggish in the menues also
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[16:57] <roberth1990> *rpi
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[17:02] <roberth1990> it's using this power supply: http://no.farnell.com/raspberry-pi-psu/rpi-psu-eu-mk1/power-supply-raspberry-5v-1a-euro/dp/2254794
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[17:25] <cstk421> has anyone used raspcontrol or similar successfully ?
[17:26] <cstk421> i cant for the life of me get it to work or get the whole repo since it has been discontinued
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[18:03] <pigrit> after watching some speech recognition demos, and unsuccessfully trying my hand at it, I wonder if I need to talk like Apu from the simpsons for it to work
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[18:05] <AiGreek> I warned you
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[18:11] <pigrit> maybe it'd work better enough on the pi 2 than on the B+ ?
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[18:11] <pigrit> but I've got retropie on the 2 :\
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[18:12] <pigrit> I'm being mentally challenged, I just need to swap the SD cards
[18:13] <pigrit> does it mind that cpu and ram are different ?
[18:14] <AiGreek> i can't tell. i tried only on B+ too
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[18:15] <d4rkforce> pigrit: if you are not on a very old version of raspbian there should be no problem
[18:16] <pigrit> wheezy
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[18:19] <d4rkforce> pigrit: just do uname -a and check if its an armv7 kernel
[18:20] <methuzla> pigrit ls /boot/kernel* | wc -l
[18:20] <methuzla> pigrit if you get a 2, you should be ok
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[18:20] <pigrit> armv61 D:
[18:21] <pigrit> but I got a 2 from that
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[18:34] <muesli4> Hi, is there some printable connector layout for the raspberry pi 2b? I want to prototype a wooden case.
[18:37] <cstk421> has anyone used raspcontrol or similar successfully ?
[18:37] <cstk421> http://squareitround.co.uk/Resources/Punnet_net_Mk1.pdf
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[18:38] <cstk421> not sure if thats the pi 2b
[18:38] <cstk421> but its a start :)
[18:38] <d4rkforce> muesli4: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/mechanical/Raspberry-Pi-B-Plus-V1.2-Mechanical-Drawing.pdf
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[18:39] <d4rkforce> form factor between the b+ and pi 2 is the same
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[18:39] <muesli4> d4rkforce: Thanks, but I found that one, and I need the perspectives from the 2 connector sides.
[18:40] <cstk421> muesli4: an editable version is here http://squareitround.co.uk/Resources/Punnet_net_Mk1.zip
[18:40] <d4rkforce> http://www.inti-innovations.co.uk/products/inti-media/inti-media-raspberrypi.html
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[18:43] <muesli4> cstk421: That's not for version 2B.
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[18:43] <muesli4> darkforce: What program do I need to open it?
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[18:46] <d4rkforce> muesli4: freecad should be able to open it for example
[18:46] <cstk421> muesli4: i wasnt sure
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[18:47] <d4rkforce> but i would say almost every 3d cad software has a step importer
[18:47] <d4rkforce> its the ISO standard
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[19:11] <brianx> has anyone come up with a working hack for the pi zero to do wired networking at at least usb full speed (minus a bit of overhead i assume) for less than the cost of the zero itself? i've seen a few adapters but researching all of them showed really poor performance on the cheap ones. maybe lan-over-usb-otg?
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[19:12] <pksato> brianx: just buy a good usb enternet adapter. Some really is bad.
[19:12] <cstk421> im using a usb to ethernet adapter havent had any issues
[19:13] <cstk421> 9$
[19:13] <cstk421> microcenter
[19:13] <cstk421> havent tested the limits though guess i could do that
[19:13] <pksato> have some cloned chip that not work,
[19:13] <brianx> anything that only doubles the cost and not more than doubles it?
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[19:13] <brianx> pksato, which one is good?
[19:14] <cstk421> i lied its 12.99 http://www.microcenter.com/product/444552/UED011_USB_20_to_Fast_Ethernet_Adapter
[19:14] <pksato> one of these with usb hub. probably use same chip used on big rpis.
[19:15] <brianx> microcenter is local which means tax makes that triple the cost of the pi.
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[19:16] <cstk421> wow these chinese ones are cheap wonder if they work Black USB A Female to Ethernet RJ45 Male Adapter Connector Router Adapter
[19:16] <cstk421> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-USB-A-Female-to-Ethernet-RJ45-Male-Adapter-Connector-Router-Adapter-/381117510299?hash=item58bc5fb29b:g:hHYAAOSwWKtUr8w5
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[19:17] <pksato> eth1: register 'qf9700' at usb-0000:01:00.1-1, QF9700 USB Ethernet, 00:e0:4c:53:44:58
[19:17] <pksato> it is one of bad.
[19:17] <mgottschlag> cstk421: that's not a network card though, just a creative USB extension cord adapter :)
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[19:18] <cstk421> mgottschlag: ah my bad didnt read that deeply
[19:18] <brianx> pksato: QF9700 is the one i found the most and yeah, seems to be around 1mbps.
[19:18] <mlelstv> brianx, the question is, wether network at the speed of USB really helps
[19:18] <pksato> I have on with mos chip or some thing.
[19:19] <pksato> one
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[19:19] <pksato> MCS7830 (?)
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[19:20] <brianx> mlelstv: there is no disk read or write involved most of the time so it would be nice to keep up with the internet connection. i'm basically trying to replace my existing B with something that will give a couple more hours of battery life.
[19:20] <mlelstv> the SPI adapters will give you about 20MBit/s
[19:21] <pksato> http://www.dx.com/p/eu-mark-usb-10-100m-rj45-ethernet-network-adapter-dongle-moschip-mcs7830-22684#.VnROmMu4Vpg
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[19:22] <pksato> I dont like these localized prices on stores, make thing more expensive. :P
[19:22] <brianx> mlelstv: spi to what chip? and i've never been able to get the pi to do spi reliably over 10mhz, but maybe my cable was too long.
[19:23] <brianx> pksato: that one looks nice but it's still double the cost of the zero.
[19:23] <pksato> yes.
[19:23] <pksato> accessories are more expensive that the RPis. :)
[19:26] <brianx> pksato, that's unfortunate. at $10 for the ethernet, the zero doesn't make sense. adding a parallel battery costs less and meets the goal of extending run time.
[19:26] <pksato> if need connectivity, buy B+
[19:28] <brianx> pksato, understood. i have an old 256mb B and was looking to gain battery run time cost effectively. (unfortunately, i have the worst model for power)
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[19:28] <brianx> looks like currently my best answer is to parallel another battery until lan-over-usb-otg is a reality.
[19:29] <methuzla> but if connectivity is wifi, consider A+ (no pi's have wifi out of box)
[19:30] <brianx> wifi is cheap, but i'm trying to avoid wireless. this area is really bad with 2.4ghz traffic.
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[19:30] <lroe> Does anyone know how to netboot a r-pi 2?
[19:31] <brianx> lroe: there is no way to boot without an sd card. you can bootstrap off sd and then root over network. does that work for you?
[19:32] <brianx> does anyone know of a project working on lan over usb otg that maybe i could contribute to?
[19:32] <lroe> I'm trying to install debian onto the SD card, and I wanted to use our netboot/tftp infrastructure
[19:33] <brianx> lroe, sorry, you need something on the sd card to get going. the pi doesn't boot quite like a pc.
[19:33] <lroe> I am learing that
[19:34] <brianx> the boot process is for the gpu to start first. it loads a bootloader from the sdcard which eventually transfers to the arm.
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[19:37] <mlelstv> http://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=85064
[19:38] <mlelstv> no, wrong link
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[19:38] <brianx> heh, was wondering.
[19:38] <mlelstv> http://raspi.tv/tag/ethernet-on-raspberry-pi-zero
[19:39] * brianx waits with baited breath
[19:39] <mlelstv> this one
[19:39] <mlelstv> http://raspi.tv/2015/ethernet-on-pi-zero-how-to-put-an-ethernet-port-on-your-pi
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[19:39] <mlelstv> about 3Mbit/s
[19:39] <mlelstv> sorry
[19:39] <mlelstv> 20MHz
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[19:42] <brianx> still better than the only sub $5 ebay/ali adapters i can find and it doesn't use the usb.
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[19:44] <mlelstv> there might be other spi chips that can do better, but this one is known to work :)
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[19:52] <brianx> and damn simple too. 7 jumpers and a config.txt edit is about as easy as a dongle.
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[19:59] <brianx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/151758964587 looks to be the same thing and is under US $3 delivered.
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[20:22] <PiGuy> Hello, can I use a shift register on a raspberry pi 2 model b gpio with a touch screen ocupying the first 26 pins?
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> if you have 3 spare pins, then yesz.
[20:23] <PiGuy> gordonDrogon: Any 3 pins?
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> more or less.
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[20:24] <PiGuy> gordonDrogon: What do you mean
[20:24] <gordonDrogon> well you can't use the power pins for signals ...
[20:25] <gordonDrogon> so after the 26 pins are taken up, you have 14 pins, of which 9 are usable GPIO pins.
[20:25] <gordonDrogon> if you have wiringPi installed, type: gpio readall to get a pinnout...
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[20:25] <PiGuy> gordonDrogon: I am using this screen: http://www.gearbest.com/lcd-led-display-module/pp_231778.html?currency=USD&gclid=CJaCtc2R5skCFQseHwodltELVw
[20:25] <PiGuy> gordonDrogon: Great so I can use the remaining pins? :0
[20:25] <PiGuy> *:)
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> sure.
[20:26] <PiGuy> gordonDrogon: Great thanks.
[20:26] <PiGuy> gordonDrogon: Do you have any schematics of this?
[20:27] <gordonDrogon> http://wiringpi.com/extensions/shift-register-74x595/
[20:28] <PiGuy> gordonDrogon: Thanks, would that work with a 7495AN 7820 shift register?
[20:29] <gordonDrogon> no idea. never seen one.
[20:29] <gordonDrogon> if it takes 3 pins for clock, data and latch then probably.
[20:30] <PiGuy> gordonDrogon: Alright, 74HC595 is the shift register to use?
[20:30] <gordonDrogon> it's a very common one - which is why I wrote code for it.
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[20:34] <pksato> This LCD use SPI, all other pins are free to use. just not have header pins to easy access.
[20:36] <PiGuy> Thanks guys I will look for onw
[20:36] <PiGuy> *one
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[20:39] <PiGuy> Does anyone have a schematic of a shift register circuit for the raspberry pi?
[20:39] <AiGreek> i think, wait
[20:40] <mgottschlag> PiGuy: you can use circuits for microcontrollers as well, and just replace the microcontroller with a pi
[20:40] <gordonDrogon> PiGuy, I gave you one ...
[20:40] <AiGreek> http://blog.idleman.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/03_thumb.png this ?
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[20:40] <gordonDrogon> http://wiringpi.com/extensions/shift-register-74x595/
[20:40] <PiGuy> Oh sorry gordonDrogon Thanks, I am working fast :)
[20:41] <mgottschlag> AiGreek: don't do that! that circuit is missing resistors for the LEDs
[20:41] <gordonDrogon> read that page - it'll show you how to wire it up. You can use the gpio command to test it too without writing any code.
[20:41] <mgottschlag> you'll wear them out really fast
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[20:41] <AiGreek> sorry :x
[20:41] <mgottschlag> and you will maybe damage the shift register after some time
[20:41] <PiGuy> gordonDrogon: Would you happen to have a schematic
[20:42] <gordonDrogon> it's on that web page.. just scroll down a bit.
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[20:42] <gordonDrogon> not a schematic, but a drawing - which ought to be good enough.
[20:43] <PiGuy> gordonDrogon: Alright, thanks
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[20:44] <PiGuy> gordonDrogon: What do I do since I am using the first 26 pins on the left of my pi's 40 gpio headers
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[20:45] <mgottschlag> just for completeness: compare the drawing to page 2 and 4 if you want to know how stuff works: http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/74HC_HCT595.pdf
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[20:47] <mgottschlag> also, read the page which gordonDrogon linked... it really contains all information
[20:47] <gordonDrogon> you just pick any 3 of the usable pins on the header then plumb their numbers into whatever software you're using to drive it.
[20:48] <gordonDrogon> however... since you have 9 usable GPIO pins left, and the shift register will give you 8, then you could just use them directly off the Pi ...
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[20:48] <PiGuy> is there a reason you connected to the specific pins>
[20:48] <PiGuy> *?
[20:49] <PiGuy> I am typing fast since I have to leave on the hour
[20:49] <gordonDrogon> in the wiringPi pin numbering world, they are pins 0, 1 and 2.
[20:49] <PiGuy> so in 12 minutes
[20:49] <PiGuy> I could use let's say 34, 35, and 36
[20:49] <gordonDrogon> you mean the physical pins?
[20:50] <gordonDrogon> physical 34 is 0v - not a good one to use.
[20:50] <PiGuy> gordonDrogon: I am using the physical 26 pins on the left side
[20:50] <gordonDrogon> run gpio readall to get a picture.
[20:50] <PiGuy> can I still use the other 24 on the right side?
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[20:51] <PiGuy> gordonDrogon: Can I use external tack buttons with that circuit instead of LED's?>
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> No. the shift register is output only.
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[20:52] <gordonDrogon> I'll be back later. gotta go and knead up about 20Kg of dough.
[20:54] <pksato> shift register can be use to generate scan lines, and read switches on one input pin.
[20:54] <CoJaBo> ^
[20:54] <CoJaBo> was just typing that lol
[20:55] <pksato> oh... :) sorry.
[20:55] <CoJaBo> lol
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[20:55] <CoJaBo> 2fast4me
[20:55] <CoJaBo> You can even matrix it for even more; which would allow a crazy number of inputs or outputs
[20:56] <PiGuy> AW
[20:56] <PiGuy> How can I use buttons?
[20:56] <PiGuy> I will be back in about an hour
[20:56] <PiGuy> :(
[20:56] <PiGuy> :)
[20:56] <PiGuy> See you then
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[20:59] <d4rkforce> PiGuy: you want a PISO shift register for that
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[21:10] <alphis> hey what graphics drivers are used for rpi2 in raspian jessie?
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[21:25] <brianx> alphis: videocore iv
[21:25] <Ispira> i got my display cable
[21:26] <Ispira> rpi is usable now
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[21:34] <alphis> brianx: thx
[21:34] <alphis> but in terms of kernel config drivers.. is there a driver for it?
[21:34] <alphis> is it even open source?
[21:34] <brianx> the current driver is not open source. it's a blob with a loader.
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[21:36] <brianx> i assume there is a process for configuring and building the non standard driver and maybe even patching the kernel appropriately. i'm betting the instructions are on github. https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/
[21:36] <Ispira> just gotUbuntu 14.04 installed on my pi ^-^
[21:37] <brianx> the gpu's interface has been documented but i'm not sure how much progress has been made on a full open driver.
[21:37] <brianx> Ispira: sweet. i'm using Fedora 23 on mine.
[21:37] <Ispira> hm really
[21:37] <Ispira> that's what im running on my laptop
[21:37] <Ispira> when i looked the version of fedora i saw compatible was f18
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[21:38] <Ispira> can you give me a link for the fedora23 source you used?
[21:38] <brianx> i think you may be thinking about pidora. this is a pi2 and chisight.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/fedora-22-or-23-on-raspberry-pi-2 is my blog.
[21:39] <Ispira> awesome thanks
[21:39] <brianx> i chose Mate.
[21:39] <Ispira> im on a pi2 as well.
[21:39] <Ispira> im gonna install/run LXDE onmine
[21:39] <Ispira> just to try things out
[21:40] <traeak> just grabbed another microsd card to test out chromiumrpi os on my rpi2
[21:40] <brianx> no problem. the blog doesn't cover the need to set /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuX/cpufreq/scaling_governor:performance yet.
[21:40] <traeak> its running now on the hdtv in the office
[21:40] <brianx> make sure you put the chip in performance or ondemand.
[21:40] <traeak> works suprisingly well but not good enough...i dunno how much chromiumOS is trying to swap or not
[21:40] <Ispira> what does it run on by default brianx ?
[21:41] <traeak> and ia hve overscan issues on my hdtv
[21:41] <brianx> it defaults to powersave
[21:41] <Ispira> ew
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[21:42] <brianx> i think that might be a kernel default
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[21:49] <Ispira> chromium rpi? oooh
[21:49] <Ispira> I'm gonna wear my SD card out so quick.
[21:51] <uriahheep> lol
[21:51] <uriahheep> don't swap
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[21:56] <uriahheep> 1gb of ram is enough... just learn command line and use as little gui as you can
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[21:58] <brianx> sd isn't as fragile as they used to be and swap isn't bad on even a 256mb pi b.
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[21:59] <brianx> a cheap kingston sd has been running since the beginning on the classic B here and the machine gets a lot of use..
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[22:04] <uriahheep> hmm...
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[22:06] <uriahheep> still though. the ideal is a musl based distribution compressed in a squashfs and running in a tmpfs with overlayfs. that way you just use the sd card for data storage and logs
[22:08] <uriahheep> that's how I'm going to be running my projects, to ensure ultimate longevity and robustness
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[22:09] <uriahheep> especially for projects that will involve usage in remote locations
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[22:26] <traeak> can't figure out how to jack with the overscan with chromiumrpi
[22:26] <traeak> there's no config.txt type thing with it
[22:26] <traeak> let me check one more thing
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[22:28] <traeak> a little confused by the chromiumrpi boot
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[22:35] <uriahheep> traeak, i wonder whether the boot loader used by chromiumrpi is custom doesn't use config.txt
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[22:36] <traeak> interesting on chromium rpi: gpu_mem=512
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[22:36] <traeak> i found it
[22:36] <traeak> /rpi/firmware on partition 3
[22:36] <traeak> gpt is fun stuff
[22:36] <uriahheep> oh OK
[22:36] <uriahheep> :-)
[22:36] <traeak> isn't gpu_mem 512 a bit excessive?
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[22:41] <traeak> good seems like that config.txt works
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[22:49] <traeak> well maybe not...putting in wierd values for overscan didn't do anything good
[22:49] <traeak> and now it thinks my profile is jacked so who knows
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[22:50] <noexcept> i want to install gentoo on my pi2, should i use armv7a pr armv7a_hardfp stage?
[22:51] <traeak> gentoo? you have a place to compile things?
[22:52] <noexcept> hardware float would be nice but im not sure if the pi2 can do it
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[22:56] <traeak> huh? of course there's floating point harware :-p
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[23:03] <Jakdaw> Can anyone point me in the right direction to figuring out why a fresh rpi buildroot image might be having troubles resolving symbols "glDiscardFramebufferEXT" and "glPointSizePointerOES" when trying to invoke gst-omx?
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[23:10] <traeak> i wouldn't think twice about running an internet kiosk with an rpi2
[23:10] <traeak> part reason being that the availabe internet connection is going to be shitty anyways
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[23:10] <traeak> chromiumos
[23:10] <traeak> youpuke is even tolerable although for some reason there's no sound at the moment
[23:11] <traeak> cut this down from 1080p to 720p might help too can't say
[23:11] <traeak> anyways
[23:11] <traeak> or even down to 13x7 or whatever the crap resolution typically is
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[23:21] <Ispira> now i know the rpi 2 is powerful enough to stream stuff, watch movies, etc
[23:21] <Ispira> i've seen tons used as media centers
[23:21] <Ispira> anyone here have experience running theirs as such?
[23:22] <pigrit> that's another thing that I always see working flawlessly in demos and videos, and then it crashes for me 1 out of 3
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[23:22] <Ispira> well i know for a fact it can't play youtube videos in browser
[23:22] <pigrit> I tried kodi
[23:23] <pigrit> a tad heavy
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[23:29] <Ispira> im going to pop over to raspbian again
[23:30] <Ispira> is raspbian very bloated stock?
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[23:55] <uriahheep> if you want something lightweight try void.
[23:56] <uriahheep> voidlinux.eu
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