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IRC Log for 2015-12-22

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[0:00] <sgflt> ...and no labels =/
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[0:00] <methuzla> sgflt 4.7k seems to be what 1 wire wants. pi's internal are something like 50k, so 10x too "weak"
[0:02] <sgflt> i think i successfully shorted it
[0:03] <sgflt> the pi survived though
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[0:07] <abnormal> yeh, that's why I use Ardino Uno... let the pi write codes to the Uno and let the Uno take the punishments
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[0:08] <sgflt> how am i supposed to figure out the wiring on the board though?
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[0:15] <abnormal> what board?
[0:16] <sgflt> the one from this set here. it came without a datasheet or any obvious markings, now i'm wondering whether or not i'm supposed to figure out where GND and VDD are by some convention
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[0:19] <abnormal> is there a site so I can see the board?
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[0:20] <sgflt> abnormal, i'll take a pic, once i'm done with good old trial and error, 1 sec
[0:21] <abnormal> ok
[0:21] <daveake> Trial and error isn't a good idea if even GDN/VCc aren't marked
[0:21] <sgflt> i know it is. but i've shorted it once, what's the worst that can happen? =)
[0:21] <sgflt> oh, it comes with an led as well
[0:21] <sgflt> now it's on
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[0:22] <daveake> Is this thing an Arduinoi shield, or some other form factor ?
[0:22] <daveake> -i
[0:23] <sgflt> alright, 1 sec, i'll take a picture
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[0:24] <abnormal> it's arduino.cc look at the site and you will see.
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[0:25] <sgflt> well, it has 3 pins, i thought shields were much larger?
[0:25] <daveake> ok it's not a shield
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[0:26] <daveake> So it's a DS18B20, 4k7 pullup for the DS18B20, LED and resistor for the LED ?
[0:27] <sgflt> i've managed to try all combinations and i found just one where the LED lights up
[0:27] <sgflt> i am guessing that that is the one correct one
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[0:28] <daveake> Let's hope you didn't find one where you fried the DS18B20
[0:28] <sgflt> unfortunately, it still doesn't show up in /sys/bus/w1/devices
[0:28] <sgflt> daveake, if that one was there to find, i guarantee you i found it by trying all of them =)
[0:29] <daveake> ofc
[0:29] <sgflt> is there a way it could have survived ?
[0:29] <sgflt> many valuable lessons have been learned today =)
[0:29] <daveake> dunno
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[0:30] <abnormal> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/245
[0:31] <abnormal> https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-11-ds18b20-temperature-sensing/hardware
[0:31] <sgflt> abnormal, that's what i've been reading so far
[0:32] <abnormal> ok
[0:32] <sgflt> woa, i think i found it
[0:33] <sgflt> got it! the LED is a data led? switching vdd and data did the trick
[0:33] <abnormal> cool
[0:33] * Keanu73_ is now known as Keanu73
[0:34] <sgflt> now to take of the blisters.. thanks everyone
[0:34] <abnormal> lol, yw
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[0:34] <daveake> "i've managed to try all combinations and i found just one where the LED lights up"
[0:34] <daveake> confused
[0:34] <daveake> suppose you meant 1 when it lit continuously
[0:34] <sgflt> daveake, yes, sorry.
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[0:35] <irc_smirk> you know what owuld be a cool pi project
[0:35] <daveake> a pic would have helped earlier ... we'd have seen only 1 resistor so the function of the LED would have been more obvious
[0:37] <irc_smirk> how bout this for a pi project
[0:37] <irc_smirk> someone tell me the parts i need. cant go over 100
[0:37] <irc_smirk> a picture frame that just plays gifs
[0:38] <sgflt> daveake, do you still want a picture? i'm about to head off, but i owe you one for the help at least
[0:38] <daveake> nope
[0:38] <irc_smirk> i assume you would have to do it through a browser
[0:38] <sgflt> daveake, ok, thanks
[0:39] <irc_smirk> but a small display like this would be so cute http://thingiverse-production-new.s3.amazonaws.com/renders/23/ca/39/b6/c2/IMG_0458_preview_featured.JPG
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[0:40] <irc_smirk> and its been done http://lifehacker.com/make-an-animated-gif-photo-frame-with-a-raspberry-pi-1658839211
[0:40] <irc_smirk> man how amusing would that be
[0:40] <daveake> The little TFTs sold for car reversing displays are good for this sort of thing
[0:41] <irc_smirk> https://www.adafruit.com/product/1601
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[0:42] <irc_smirk> i want these damn things to be flat like the pizero
[0:42] <irc_smirk> ugly https://www.adafruit.com/images/970x728/1601-07.jpg
[0:49] <irc_smirk> why oh why did they skip out on the audio output
[0:49] <irc_smirk> a homemade ipod woud have been totally possilbe
[0:49] <irc_smirk> http://thingiverse-production-new.s3.amazonaws.com/renders/23/ca/39/b6/c2/IMG_0458_preview_featured.JPG
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[0:51] <irc_smirk> i guess the c.h.i.p woudl be better
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[0:53] <Xark> irc_smirk: The audio quality is pretty poor (other than HDMI).
[0:54] <irc_smirk> is that also true for the one on my b+?
[0:54] <Xark> Yes. Not even 16-bit audio AFAIK.
[0:55] <Xark> irc_smirk: It was way too "hissy" and noisy to hook to my stereo in my testing.
[0:55] <Xark> (Not to mention massive "pop" when RPi is powered on/off). :)
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[0:57] <irc_smirk> not a bad enclosure for the touchscreen https://www.adafruit.com/product/1892
[0:58] <mlelstv> is it?
[0:59] <irc_smirk> its for the old B
[0:59] * H4ndy is now known as h4ndy
[1:00] <mlelstv> it looks pretty bloated for the small display
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[1:05] <irc_smirk> the pi and display is the bloat
[1:05] <abnormal> yeh, there's different ones out there
[1:05] <abnormal> keep looking
[1:05] <irc_smirk> well they wont magically make the combo smaller
[1:06] <irc_smirk> until the pizero displays start coming out
[1:06] <Apocx> have that enclosure, it's decent. made for an older gen pi though I'd imagine a new one would work ok with it
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[1:07] <Apocx> (then again probably not, as the ports were rearranged)
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[1:09] <abnormal> keep looking
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[1:11] <Chillum> I love how the pizero is mostly flat on the bottom. It means daughter boards can sit flush, and can even reflow onto the usb test points
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[1:11] <Chillum> there are a few through hole solders on the bottom but you can just drill holes in the daughter board there
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[1:13] <irc_smirk> wow i just saw in video that the official touch screen has hdmi out as well
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[1:13] <abnormal> try banggood.com
[1:13] <irc_smirk> so you can make a duel monitor pi
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[1:13] <irc_smirk> https://youtu.be/hqdz66Y-H7M?t=88
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[1:15] <irc_smirk> lol guy in yotuube comments asks for 40 finger support in next gen of display
[1:16] <JK-47> kiosk/table games for multiple people.
[1:16] <JK-47> not outlandish
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[1:20] <irc_smirk> on a 7 inch device?
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[1:20] <irc_smirk> game of finger twister
[1:20] <JK-47> i dunno. maybe he is multiplexing them
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[1:24] <irc_smirk> seems that display is out of stock everwhere
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[1:29] <abnormal> https://www.adafruit.com/products/1723
[1:29] <abnormal> try that one.... ^^^^
[1:33] <JK-47> ugh crazy price for that.
[1:33] <abnormal> so?
[1:34] <abnormal> quit your complaining and get what ya want... sheesh, at least it's not a bloated one, for crying out loud...
[1:34] <JK-47> With that logic, the pi zero would be $20 too ;)
[1:35] <abnormal> or free on a MagPi magazine
[1:36] <irc_smirk> ugly
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[1:37] <irc_smirk> speaking of magpi anyone find them in US store yet?
[1:37] <abnormal> then don't bother buying therm
[1:37] <abnormal> not yet.. next month
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[1:38] <irc_smirk> what january?
[1:38] <irc_smirk> for dec issue?
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[1:40] <abnormal> yes, dear....
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[1:41] <irc_smirk> of course makes sense. invent a $5 computer and send it on a rowboat
[1:42] <abnormal> if they didn't get all bought up by some nerd...
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[1:44] <irc_smirk> if i get an hdmi to vga adapter
[1:44] <irc_smirk> will i get audio from pizero?
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[1:47] <deshipu> irc_smirk: sure, it has hdmi audio, and you can even hack a normal headphone jack audio on it
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[1:55] <abnormal> it's same ole pi without all the fancy connectors on it
[1:58] <irc_smirk> idea
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[1:58] <irc_smirk> text to speech reader for this chat room
[1:58] <irc_smirk> so you can hear the conversations
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[2:02] <abnormal> lol
[2:02] <irc_smirk> the usernames will trip it up though
[2:02] <abnormal> go for it....
[2:02] <irc_smirk> yeah i think i may. wont be too hard
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[2:06] <irc_smirk> yeah these names are aweful
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[2:08] <abnormal> lol... tell me about it...
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[2:26] <Chillum> ohh this is cool: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/usb-to-microusb-otg-converter-shim about as small as such an adapter could become
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[2:28] <irc_smirk> way overpriced
[2:29] <irc_smirk> i got 5 for $5 comign to me
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[2:29] <irc_smirk> also i think they become permently atached
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[2:30] <Chillum> irc_smirk: where else can you get them? They are sold out
[2:31] <Chillum> I am not worried about them getting jammed, I just want to convert a cheapo wifi dongle for a zero
[2:32] <Chillum> I think a set of pliers could get it out hehe
[2:32] <irc_smirk> hrm
[2:33] <irc_smirk> maybe i got scammed cause my paypal got charge but i didnt get an order confiration
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[2:34] <abnormal> no, go back in the order and confirm the order
[2:34] <Chillum> ah http://www.ebay.ca/itm/181914409687 found them cheap
[2:35] <irc_smirk> all i have is a gmail
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[2:36] <abnormal> ahh.
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[2:37] <abnormal> well... you need to get into the web site and do the order
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[2:37] <irc_smirk> i have no idea where i ordered it lol
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[2:39] <abnormal> well.. brainstorm and figure it out...
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[2:40] <abnormal> keep clicking til you find it
[2:40] <abnormal> and if it is a real scam, it needs to be reported....
[2:41] <[Saint]> Did you guys see the launch/landing?
[2:41] <[Saint]> Falcon 9 did it.
[2:41] <[Saint]> The first stage returned and landed perfectly.
[2:41] <irc_smirk> ?
[2:41] <[Saint]> http://www.spacex.com/webcast/
[2:42] <abnormal> of space x?
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[2:42] <abnormal> ty
[2:42] <[Saint]> Falcon 9 launched, had a perfect first/second stage separation, and the first stage had a perfect re-entry burn, flipped around, and landed perfectly.
[2:42] <[Saint]> It was beautiful.
[2:42] <[Saint]> Absolutely perfect.
[2:43] <abnormal> cool
[2:43] <abnormal> we slowly getting there
[2:43] <[Saint]> Everything went absolutely perfectly with the return this time.
[2:43] <[Saint]> It was awesome to see it live.
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[2:44] <[Saint]> I guess this is my "Moon LAnding", at least so far today, for my generation. lol
[2:44] <[Saint]> Seeing a rocket return to Earth and park itself is a pretty beautiful thing.
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[2:44] <Berg> vid
[2:45] <Berg> hi im berg
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[2:45] <[Saint]> http://www.spacex.com/webcast/
[2:45] <Berg> tar
[2:50] <irc_smirk> why is that important
[2:50] <irc_smirk> isnt the biggest cost getting out to space
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[2:52] <Berg> reusing stuff cost less?
[2:53] <irc_smirk> meanwhile multi million dollar missiles ar launched eveyrday
[2:54] <abnormal> yeh, remember the space shuttles???
[2:54] <irc_smirk> yeah there is a free way to get back. just gravity and glide
[2:58] <abnormal> still took tiny jets to steer it tho...
[2:58] <SpeedEvil> Wings are not free.
[2:58] <SpeedEvil> They are heavy, add considerable extra things to be damaged, require high levels of thermal protection, ...
[2:59] <Berg> make a elevator
[2:59] <Berg> delete rockets
[3:00] <abnormal> yeh, sure...... two mile high elevator????
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[3:03] <irc_smirk> https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CWyzesoW4AIe4bI.mp4
[3:03] <irc_smirk> yeah tha twould have been cool to watch live
[3:04] <irc_smirk> why did they do this at night?
[3:05] <abnormal> so they can see the whole operation in action.... daylight is too blinding
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[3:37] <Rickmasta> https://i.imgur.com/0pOZoMN.png Is /dev/root/ supposed to say 0?
[3:37] <Rickmasta> or I do I acutally have no space available on the card?
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[3:38] <pksato> disk full.
[3:39] <pksato> Rickmasta: 4GB SD card?
[3:39] <Rickmasta> yup
[3:39] <Rickmasta> crap
[3:39] <Rickmasta> I didn't realize that the rp2 had a microsd slot so I picked up a regular sd card when I picked up mine. lol
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[3:41] <Rickmasta> would that be why I received the following error? https://i.imgur.com/VZZ8KSL.png
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[3:44] <Spitalian> hi
[3:45] <Spitalian> I'm having some trouble with ssh keys. could someone help me?
[3:46] <JK-47> put your pub key in the authorized_keys file and have it all on 1 line?
[3:46] <JK-47> if so, chmod 400 it. done.
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[3:48] <Spitalian> well my problem is that I was following a guide for making ssh keys and I didn't realize I was supposed to make the keys on the computer I'm connecting from. I made them on the pi, then realized my mistake, so I deleted the keys. I remade them on my other computer. But now I can't ssh into my pi because I don't have keys. I am currently ssh'd into it though in a different terminal window, so I need to change it back to passwor
[3:48] <Spitalian> I'm a noob so go easy on me
[3:48] <JK-47> it can be password and keys for a bit.
[3:51] <Spitalian> when I try to connect it says: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)! It is also possible that a host key has just been changed. The fingerprint for the RSA ke
[3:51] <Spitalian> Please contact your system administrator. Add correct host key in /Users/____/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message. Offending RSA key in ___ RSA host key for ___ has changed and you have requested strict checking. Host key verification failed.
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[3:53] <irc_smirk_> hello
[3:53] <Spitalian> hi
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[3:54] <irc_smirk_> what to do what to do
[3:55] <Berg> Spitalian: remove the stored key and gen a new one
[3:56] <irc_smirk_> i got my irc text to speech done
[3:56] <irc_smirk_> with node-red easy as pie
[3:56] <irc_smirk_> running on pi :)
[3:56] <Berg> i made a bot to do that also
[3:56] <Berg> i just used espeak
[3:56] <irc_smirk_> actaully its not on the pi. its on mac
[3:57] <irc_smirk_> i dont have speakers on my pi
[3:57] <Berg> my eytes are starting to bleed
[3:57] <irc_smirk_> espeak is a built in library?
[3:57] <Berg> espeak is a installed lib
[3:57] <Berg> what os you using?
[3:57] <irc_smirk_> osx
[3:58] <irc_smirk_> this is pretty convenient actualy i dont ahve to keep this tab up until i want to respond
[3:58] <Berg> i cant help weith that then im on a real OS linux
[3:58] <Helldesk> [Saint]: it's a wonderful day for spaceflight, one for the history books
[3:58] <Helldesk> and they're only getting started!
[3:58] <[Saint]> Helldesk: indeed so.
[3:58] <Berg> yeah well as long as it works thats good
[3:58] <irc_smirk_> seems when lots of people chat it overrites
[3:58] <irc_smirk_> sort of like in real life then
[3:58] <Berg> ok
[3:58] <[Saint]> I'm sure I will see many more great things in space flight to come, but I think for my generation, this is my "Moon Landing".
[3:58] <[Saint]> It was beautiful.
[3:59] <Helldesk> it was
[3:59] <Berg> mine puts it in a que and reads it all out
[3:59] <irc_smirk_> ah yeah this is a quick hack with node red
[3:59] <[Saint]> A great great day.
[3:59] <Helldesk> although when the first private spacecraft delivers humans to orbit it'll be another one like this
[3:59] <Berg> so a busy channel will make it never stop talking
[3:59] <irc_smirk_> you did it in python?
[3:59] <[Saint]> Seeing the SpaceX guys go beserk and hug each other and jumping around and crying and filled with joy felt amazing.
[4:00] <[Saint]> It was great.
[4:00] <Helldesk> yeah, they really didn't hold back in the stream
[4:00] <Berg> bot was in python yes irc_smirk_
[4:00] <irc_smirk_> maybe one for reddit news or whatever subreddit may be more practical
[4:00] <Berg> but if you dont has espeak its useless now
[4:00] <Helldesk> I only remembered shortly before payload separation that usually you don't cheer until all paying customers (one, in this case) has had their satellite separate :)
[4:01] <irc_smirk_> there is a way to make browsers do the talking now
[4:01] <irc_smirk_> without server
[4:01] <Helldesk> it all turned out great though
[4:01] <Berg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G8GJQumBFs
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[4:04] <irc_smirk_> fake
[4:07] <irc_smirk_> oh i see so it takes off, pushes the thing it carries to space, then returns back. tahts very cool
[4:09] <Berg> well its wo nderfull its making space closes as the shuttle did
[4:10] <Berg> when iu was young the closest to space we ever got was jewels verne
[4:10] <irc_smirk_> grandpa
[4:10] <Helldesk> the first stage does a part of the job and the second stage finishes the job of accelerating to a high enough sideways velocity to not hit the planet as it perpetually falls in space towards the planet
[4:10] <irc_smirk_> so this is for low orbit satelites?
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[4:11] <Helldesk> so anything like a satellite jumping off the second stage stays in space
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[4:11] <Helldesk> Falcon 9 can deliver payload to high orbits too, even beyond Earth orbit
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[4:12] <Berg> delive to australia?
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[4:12] <Berg> wowo a new age has begun
[4:12] <irc_smirk_> the thing looks pretty damaged. how many trips can it do
[4:12] <Helldesk> they launched DSCOVR earlier this year and it escaped Earth's gravity altogether (basically into solar orbit)
[4:12] <Helldesk> define damaged
[4:12] <Helldesk> nobody knows how many flights it can do because nobody has done this before
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[4:13] <Helldesk> the New Shepard of Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin company did a similar thing just recently but that was a rocket tenth of the size of this one and it can't deliver anything into space
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[4:13] <abnormal> well originally the shuttle was suppose to retrieve all the space junk for analysis and or recycle...
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[4:14] <Helldesk> the space shuttle was supposed to fly every other week or something
[4:14] <abnormal> but our gov killed it
[4:14] <Helldesk> it's more complicated than that
[4:14] <Helldesk> it turned out it wasn't very good at anything it was supposed to be used for
[4:14] <Berg> sumo wrestlker of the space race
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[4:14] <Helldesk> because it was mandated that it should be capable of doing everything
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[4:15] <Helldesk> it also cost a billion dollars or more to launch
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[4:15] <irc_smirk_> right
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[4:23] <Spitalian> hey guys if I made a pair of rsa keys, how can I tell if I'm using them? I made them with a password so it's still prompting me with a password when I ssh to my pi
[4:23] <irc_smirk_> .
[4:23] <JK-47> your permissions are wrong on the server side.
[4:23] <JK-47> use ssh -vvv when connecting
[4:23] <JK-47> and run the server in debug mode
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[4:24] <irc_smirk_> anyone looking into that $9 computer
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[4:25] <Helldesk> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWzIWeAXIAAUQCF.jpg:large
[4:25] <abnormal> whut $9 puter?
[4:26] <Helldesk> the C.H.I.P.?
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[4:26] <Berg> the $9 one
[4:26] <irc_smirk_> yeah
[4:26] <irc_smirk_> thats an awesome picture
[4:26] <Helldesk> it looks interesting, storage and wireless integrated from the get go
[4:26] <ozzzy_> is that the one that's $9?
[4:26] <abnormal> ahh the piece of junk one?
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[4:26] <irc_smirk> always the positive vive from you
[4:26] <Berg> ozzzy_: i think it is the $9 one
[4:27] <abnormal> you can't beat the pi's
[4:27] <irc_smirk> yeah 9 bucks
[4:27] <ozzzy_> Berg, AHHH
[4:27] <Helldesk> abnormal: sure you can
[4:27] <irc_smirk> it has built in wifi
[4:27] <irc_smirk> lots of new ones coming out
[4:27] <abnormal> so?
[4:27] * Xark is waiting to see what C.H.I.P. and Pine64 are like...
[4:27] <Helldesk> horses for courses
[4:27] <irc_smirk> and has a mic and audio
[4:27] <Helldesk> would you use a hammer to affix a screw?
[4:27] <Berg> yes
[4:27] <abnormal> I can get a lappy with everything in it
[4:28] <Helldesk> can you get a laptopt for under ten dollars?
[4:28] <Helldesk> *laptop
[4:28] <abnormal> yes, I've driven in screws with hammers
[4:28] <Xark> Helldesk: Maybe a used one from Leap. :)
[4:28] <Helldesk> that explains everything
[4:28] <abnormal> sure
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[4:28] <giddles> hehe well try it ;) my pi fall down 2meter to the floor and it still works
[4:29] <abnormal> look in Amazon for lappys
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[4:29] <giddles> hmm zero pi
[4:29] <abnormal> comes with wifi, screen, usb, hdmi, etc...
[4:29] <giddles> this is the official channel?
[4:29] <giddles> cant the officials spread some gossip, whats next?
[4:30] <abnormal> sure, why not???
[4:30] <giddles> pizero single core ok for iot but hmm, i want a superpi ;)
[4:30] <Berg> a special award should be sent to the next company that makes a micro processor and pays the users to use it thats realy cheap
[4:30] <abnormal> yeh, kickstarter.com
[4:30] <giddles> hehe
[4:30] <giddles> kickstarter.com
[4:30] <giddles> hitler game for 840k..
[4:31] <abnormal> lol
[4:31] <giddles> im not joking but ya quite ehrm...
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[4:31] <irc_smirk> this chat box is halarious
[4:31] <abnormal> lol
[4:31] <abnormal> gud
[4:32] <giddles> i have some wishes, usb 3.0, sata on board and 8 core arm, 4gb ram ... i would be happy
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[4:33] <abnormal> send Eben your message
[4:33] <giddles> did he fund it at kickstarter?
[4:33] <abnormal> no
[4:33] <Berg> I except this award on behalf of all the l,ittle people and i like to thank my mum and dad for the use of the power points in the house ...i also like to thank me for being so clever.
[4:33] <giddles> good
[4:33] * Berg takes a bow
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[4:33] <abnormal> lol
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[4:33] <irc_smirk> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1836573872/pixel-vision-the-handmade-portable-game-system/description
[4:34] <giddles> well here the traders ripp me off @ pizero
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[4:34] <giddles> munch expensive for a single core arm board without mounted gpio pins
[4:34] <irc_smirk> thats a $468 retro pi box
[4:34] <Helldesk> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWzMPm2U8AAca4k.jpg:large
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[4:37] <Helldesk> behold, the rarest of beasts - a used launch vehicle
[4:39] <abnormal> sweet... it's worth it
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[4:44] <irc_smirk> i need a good workout
[4:45] <abnormal> ok, do 50 pushups
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[4:46] <Berg> hammer 6000 screws in
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[4:47] <abnormal> only if you switch hands doing it
[4:47] <irc_smirk> are you mad
[4:48] <abnormal> 3k each
[4:48] <irc_smirk> id have to climb out of this hole in my sofa
[4:48] <abnormal> that's easy...
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[4:48] <Helldesk> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/679145544673923072
[4:49] <abnormal> put an inner tube under cushion and push a button to turn on air comp and up you go...
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[4:50] <irc_smirk> right cause i jsut so happen to sit on that setup before i got on
[4:50] <abnormal> lol
[4:51] * abnormal smirking
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[4:52] <Chillum> wow, people are talking about how the pi zero can be used in usb device mode to act as an ethernet device thus allowing both power and networking with a single USB cable. With a hub you could make a cheap cluster: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=128970
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[4:52] <abnormal> sweet
[4:52] <Chillum> the most expensive part of making a pi cluster is all the cables, power, and networking. This way it is just 1 usb cable and a powered hub
[4:53] <Chillum> not as fast as a pi 2, but I am wondering how many I can fit in my cdrom bay with a hub
[4:53] <Chillum> that way my computer can have a set of smaller secondary computers all networked in
[4:53] <Chillum> because cdroms are pretty useless these days
[4:54] <Chillum> argh! I want one to test with!
[4:54] <Chillum> anyone want to trade a zero for some bitcoin?
[4:54] <abnormal> lol
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[4:54] <abnormal> wish I cud
[4:55] <abnormal> cuz I ain't got one yet...
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[4:55] <Chillum> http://linux-sunxi.org/USB_Gadget#USB_Ethernet_support <-- this very well might be all you need
[4:55] <irc_smirk> sure
[4:57] <Chillum> I am have a 5 port powered usb hub that takes 12v. I am thinking I can install its board in a cdrom form factor, power it from the PSU 12v rail, and install 5 zeros in there. Then attach it to the internal usb pins on my MB
[4:57] <abnormal> wow, that looks like real fun there
[4:57] <Chillum> slide it into the bay
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[4:57] <abnormal> go for it, Chillum
[4:58] <Chillum> as soon as I get my hand on them!
[4:58] <abnormal> you got a good dream, there
[4:58] <Chillum> will blog it
[4:58] <abnormal> yes...
[4:58] <Chillum> I already have a bunch of stubby usb cables
[4:59] <abnormal> nice
[4:59] <abnormal> I have a few of those
[4:59] <abnormal> right now I am logged in two desktops, and 2 pi's
[4:59] <irc_smirk> here is my node-red flow for text-to-speech in this irc room
[4:59] <irc_smirk> http://i.imgur.com/OwDyICr.png
[5:00] <abnormal> ok, looking.....
[5:00] <irc_smirk> if anyone wants it, i can post the flow. you need to install node-red on mac. can modify it for pi i guess
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[5:01] <abnormal> sweet
[5:01] <abnormal> nice....
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[5:01] <irc_smirk> cant get loggin to file working
[5:01] <irc_smirk> it shoudl be possible but dont have the bandwidth to do it right now
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[5:03] <abnormal> that's ok... take your time so it will come out like a dream
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[5:05] <irc_smirk> when those mags come out state side im hoarding
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[5:05] <irc_smirk> hrm i could use a different voice for a different person or room
[5:07] <abnormal> I know, that's what happened in Uk, someone hoarded them alll
[5:07] <irc_smirk> oh this is cool over at #news there is an automated feed
[5:07] <abnormal> oh?
[5:07] <irc_smirk> they are $15 though
[5:07] <irc_smirk> i wonder if they will be collectables over the year
[5:08] <abnormal> oh yes...
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[5:08] <abnormal> I have the model A, ver 1
[5:08] <abnormal> model B, ver 1
[5:09] <abnormal> I have 6 pi's now
[5:09] <irc_smirk> haha
[5:09] <abnormal> and 1 BBB
[5:09] <irc_smirk> any pizero?
[5:09] <abnormal> no, I wish
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[5:10] <irc_smirk> i raced out and got one
[5:10] <irc_smirk> too bad it was limit 1
[5:10] <abnormal> you dog
[5:10] <irc_smirk> OH SHIT
[5:10] <irc_smirk> http://imgur.com/Fsmo9vb
[5:10] <abnormal> where was that?
[5:11] <irc_smirk> cali
[5:11] <irc_smirk> look at them
[5:11] <abnormal> ahh, ok.. me in NY
[5:12] <irc_smirk> they are not listing the on the website http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?Ntt=pi+zero
[5:12] <abnormal> I'll have to look harder for one
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[5:12] <irc_smirk> unless of couse its sold out
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[5:12] <irc_smirk> i love how they have them like bags of chips
[5:13] <abnormal> yes, they all sold out in UK in two days
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[5:14] * Xark grabbed another RPi2 off the shelf at Fry's (but no Zeros). :)
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[5:16] <abnormal> sweet.. looked like a Walmart display of used DVDs
[5:16] <sedition> i appreciate frys
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[5:16] <irc_smirk> frys is awful
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[5:17] <abnormal> I don't have Frys in NY
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[5:17] <irc_smirk> i drove out there and asked for a price match on a best buy sdcard
[5:17] <irc_smirk> they lied and said their manager wasnt around to 'override' the system
[5:17] <abnormal> we used to have Radio Shacks...
[5:17] <abnormal> lol
[5:17] <abnormal> yeh they all do that
[5:17] <irc_smirk> the tech reps are real bad there
[5:17] <irc_smirk> microcenter is nice
[5:17] <abnormal> yup
[5:18] <irc_smirk> we need a bot in here to post when the pis are in stock
[5:18] <abnormal> yes, shantorn likes Microcenter
[5:18] <sedition> i dont care so long as i can get a cable when i need it
[5:18] <abnormal> YES... I agree on that bot...
[5:19] <irc_smirk> shoudl be easy to do
[5:19] <irc_smirk> i just need to find that webpage that was offering that
[5:19] <abnormal> go for it, man....
[5:19] <irc_smirk> then i can parse the page in node red
[5:19] <abnormal> lol
[5:19] <sedition> is there anything like beautifulsoup in golang?
[5:19] <sedition> for screen scraping
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[5:21] <abnormal> try Campbell's Pepper Pot Soup....
[5:21] <irc_smirk> where is tha tpage
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[5:22] <abnormal> whut page?
[5:22] <abnormal> soup?
[5:22] <irc_smirk> someon on reddit made a page that tracks all the stores
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[5:23] <abnormal> ahhh, beats me, cuz I don't have your ability
[5:23] <gorroth> radix sort on base 10 numbers but using base 2 is sweeeeeeet
[5:23] <gorroth> removes the div/mod and lets you just do shift/mask
[5:23] <abnormal> nice...
[5:24] <gorroth> :)
[5:24] <irc_smirk> damn the guy pulled it
[5:24] <irc_smirk> http://rpi0.satanowski.net/
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[5:25] <irc_smirk> oh the source is here
[5:25] <irc_smirk> i am not a python guy
[5:25] <irc_smirk> anyone?
[5:26] <irc_smirk> https://github.com/satanowski/rpi0watch/blob/develop/src/main.py
[5:26] <abnormal> ahhh man I had to laugh at that one... first time I've an error 500
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[5:27] <irc_smirk> any python people in here
[5:27] <abnormal> not me.. but niston is
[5:29] <abnormal> do you know lost_soul in another server?
[5:29] <irc_smirk> File "main.py", line 77 response = yield from aiohttp.request('GET', url)
[5:30] <irc_smirk> no
[5:30] <abnormal> oh well, he's the phython guru
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[5:32] <irc_smirk> ah Python 2.7.6
[5:33] <abnormal> I have 3.0
[5:33] <abnormal> I put Ubuntu on my pi B-2
[5:34] <irc_smirk> this is a perfect use case for docker
[5:34] <abnormal> man, that OS flys in that pi
[5:34] <gorroth> like damn. DIV on intel, for example, takes 32 ops to finish, but i can do a SHL/AND in 2 ops total :-) so i could radix sort 64-bit numbers way faster in binary than in base 10. i'm guessing MOD takes at least 32 ops as well
[5:34] <irc_smirk> what disk are you writing too. sdcard?
[5:34] <gorroth> or close to it anyway
[5:35] <gorroth> but a 64-bit number only has 19 base-10 zeros, making binary radix sort waaaaay faster, at least looking at this math. i'd have to test it out to be totally sure though
[5:35] <abnormal> my Ubuntu? yes, class 10 32gb SD card
[5:35] <irc_smirk> mine is so slow at writing
[5:36] <irc_smirk> like 2m/sec
[5:36] <irc_smirk> and its supposed to be a faste card
[5:37] <irc_smirk> with node red you can even have a node that calls or texts your phone
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[5:46] <abnormal> well.. I never had any issues with SD cards crashing on me... and I never paid much attention to their speed... as long as they worked flawlessly, I am happy with them...
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[5:48] <irc_smirk> what does each pi do
[5:48] <abnormal> I wanted to go to bigger cards, like 64 or 128gb but held my breath and stuck with the 32 gb one for the B-2 pi....
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[5:49] <Spitalian> I FINALLY GOT MY SSH KEYS TO WORK. I'm so happy
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[5:50] <abnormal> most of them have boards hooked to them... one has Uno, two others have QuickStarts, another one has homework board, and the other two I use for chat
[5:51] <abnormal> congrats, spitalian
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[5:52] <PiGuy> Hello
[5:53] <irc_smirk> hello
[5:53] <abnormal> wb
[5:53] <irc_smirk> abnormal - nice
[5:53] <abnormal> ty
[5:53] <PiGuy> Hi irc_smirk :)
[5:53] <PiGuy> How can I port an SDL2 program to run on a Raspberry Pi 2 running Raspbian Wheezy?
[5:54] <abnormal> I also have a lot of PiGeek mags
[5:55] <abnormal> ok, highlight that question and paste it in Mr. Google... you'll find ans real fast
[5:56] <Xark> PiGuy: Something like install libsdl2-dev and recompile it?
[5:56] <Xark> PiGuy: However, it may not used accelerated GL on Pi...
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[5:57] <irc_smirk> ah i have the script working
[5:57] <abnormal> sweet
[5:58] <irc_smirk> http://i.imgur.com/wEzHr86.png
[5:58] <irc_smirk> now
[5:58] <irc_smirk> shoudl i put this on my pi and serve it
[5:58] <abnormal> ok, looking....
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[5:59] <abnormal> sweet!!!!\
[5:59] <abnormal> need to add Digikey, Mouser, etc...
[6:00] <irc_smirk> urls?
[6:00] <irc_smirk> pretty easy to expand this script
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[6:00] <abnormal> amazon, ebay, craigslist, etc
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[6:00] <abnormal> lol
[6:00] <irc_smirk> well give me th eother ones. the exact page where it listed
[6:01] <irc_smirk> forget amazin, ebay, craigslist
[6:01] <irc_smirk> has to be a stable page
[6:01] <abnormal> lol, jk
[6:01] <abnormal> www.digikey.com
[6:02] <irc_smirk> yeah but where
[6:02] <irc_smirk> i dont see them carrying it
[6:02] <abnormal> ahh... ok... nvm
[6:02] <irc_smirk> grr
[6:02] <irc_smirk> so get one of your pi up and install python 3
[6:02] <abnormal> lol, sorry... I'm looking...
[6:02] <Helldesk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCBE8ocOkAQ
[6:03] <irc_smirk> ok THATS impressive
[6:03] <irc_smirk> but obviously a hoax
[6:03] <irc_smirk> video running backwards
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[6:05] <abnormal> lol
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[6:07] <irc_smirk> whats a quick command to know the exact os im running in pi
[6:08] <methuzla> depends on the os
[6:08] <abnormal> inxi -S
[6:08] <Xark> irc_smirk: Hmm, try "uname -a" perhaps with a "cat /etc/issue" (but yeah, not ALL oses)
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[6:08] <irc_smirk> well if i knew that ...
[6:08] <irc_smirk> ok
[6:08] <irc_smirk> i think its debian
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[6:08] <methuzla> uname -a
[6:08] <irc_smirk> yeah wheezy
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[6:22] <PiGuy> Xark: What do I do after that?
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[6:23] <Xark> PiGuy: It is not like there are cut and dried steps porting something. Are you having trouble? You may have to modify the code...
[6:24] <Xark> PiGuy: Sometimes it is as simple as "./autoconfig" or "make" and other times it is a huge pain...
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[6:27] <PiGuy> Xark: I see. I wrote the entire program with C++ and SDL2. SO I need to just install libSDL2 and then build the program?
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[6:28] <Xark> PiGuy: Yes. SDL is a pretty reasonable portability layer, so you have a good chance of getting it working. However, in my experience there are always a few things that will need tweaking...
[6:29] <abnormal> irc_smirk, banggood.com
[6:29] <irc_smirk> url to exact page
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[6:31] <abnormal> none.. out of stock
[6:31] <PiGuy> Xark: Can I create a linux runnable program? Like an windows .exe?
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[6:32] <Xark> PiGuy: Umm, sure. That is what C++ compilers generally do. Linux doesn't use a file extension for executables though. (so "prog.exe" is typically just "prog" on Linux).
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[6:33] <Xark> PiGuy: E.g.,: g++ myprogram.cpp -o prog will make an executable program (assuming it compiles and links).
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[6:34] <r_02> Hello. Question for someone
[6:34] <PiGuy> Xark: What is that line called? How do I write one?
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[6:35] <Xark> PiGuy: It has been a while, bit IIRC for SDL you can use something like: g++ mycode.cpp `sdl-config --cflags --lflags` -o mycode" and sdl-config will provide proper C compile flags and link flags.
[6:35] <r_02> I have a Hype power stick thing that says input of 5v 1A (max)
[6:35] <r_02> what would happen if i used a 5v 2.5A power of it?
[6:36] <PiGuy> Xark: Thanks a ton :)
[6:36] <Xark> PiGuy: No problem. You may find this site helpful -> http://wiki.libsdl.org/FAQLinux
[6:37] <Xark> (e.g., looks like it is sdl2-config for SDL 2.0...)
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[6:41] <swift110-phone> Hey
[6:42] <abnormal> irc_smirk, shop.pimoroni.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero
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[6:42] <abnormal> Hi, swiftie
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[6:43] <irc_smirk> yeah i got that one
[6:43] <abnormal> ok, sorry
[6:43] <irc_smirk> "element14": "http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-79263?ICID=hp-pizero-ban", "pihut": "http://thepihut.com/collections/new-products/products/raspberry-pi-zero", "pimoroni": "https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/raspberry-pi-zero", "adafruit": "https://www.adafruit.com/products/2885", "adafruit-BudgetPack": "https://www.adafruit.com/products/2817", "adafruit-StarterPack": "https://www.adafruit.com/products/2816
[6:43] <irc_smirk> all known
[6:43] <swift110-phone> How r u guts
[6:43] <abnormal> ok
[6:43] <swift110-phone> Guts
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[6:43] <swift110-phone> Anyone got pi zero
[6:43] <irc_smirk> yep
[6:43] <abnormal> my guts are plentie sassie...
[6:44] <swift110-phone> How do u like it?
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[6:44] <irc_smirk> i like to look at it. thats it for now
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[6:44] <irc_smirk> holy crap this takes long to compile on pi
[6:44] <Xark> swift110-phone: It is a cute little thing, but unless I need to embed it in something tiny, I'll stick with RPi2 (so much more usable). :)
[6:44] <irc_smirk> is pi2 faster at this?
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[6:45] <Xark> irc_smirk: Significantly.
[6:45] <swift110-phone> Lol
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[6:45] <swift110-phone> What do u use the zero for?
[6:46] <abnormal> nothing
[6:46] <abnormal> cuz it's zero
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[6:46] <swift110-phone> Lol
[6:46] <swift110-phone> How funny
[6:46] <Xark> swift110-phone: Nothing much so far, but might be a handy USB host and or Network controller for an FPGA project.
[6:46] <abnormal> lol
[6:46] <abnormal> jk
[6:47] <swift110-phone> Ok
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[6:48] <abnormal> I give up... can't find one anywhere
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[6:49] <swift110-phone> Ok
[6:51] <abnormal> oh well... maybe next year there might be some floating around...
[6:54] <irc_smirk> almost done with script on pi
[6:54] <swift110-phone> Lol
[6:54] <abnormal> sweet
[6:56] <irc_smirk> wow this is a mess getting python3 to run on this thing
[6:57] <irc_smirk> this script install somwhat easy on th emac
[6:57] <abnormal> yes it is
[6:57] <irc_smirk> on pi so many broken dependencies
[6:57] <abnormal> yup...
[6:57] <irc_smirk> shoudlh ave done it in node
[6:57] <irc_smirk> its just a scraper on cron
[6:58] <abnormal> need to the apt-get update python -- fix missing
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[7:07] <swift110-phone> I was gonna buy the linux magazine with the free pi zero
[7:07] <irc_smirk> but?
[7:07] <abnormal> you mean the MagPi mag?
[7:08] <abnormal> that's the only mag you will find it on...
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[7:12] <irc_smirk> so i cant get past this
[7:12] <irc_smirk> Could not find function xmlCheckVersion in library libxml2. Is libxml2 installed?
[7:12] <irc_smirk> ive tried apt-get install libxml2 and says its installed
[7:12] <swift110-phone> Ok
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[7:14] <abnormal> you tried update libxm12?
[7:14] <swift110-phone> Ok abnormal
[7:14] <PiGuy> Hello, does anyone have a VM of Rasbian Wheezy? I can't use my Pi because I only have 4GB on my microSD and I need more. SO I will use a VM, compile my program on Pi, and then use the compiled executable from the VM on my Real PI.
[7:14] <irc_smirk> dockrer
[7:15] <irc_smirk> alerady latest versino
[7:15] <abnormal> I see.. hmmm...
[7:16] <Xark> PiGuy: Should be doable. Look for am Raspberry Pi 2 QEMU setup.
[7:16] <Xark> an*
[7:16] <abnormal> well.. time for me to go... night
[7:17] <abnormal> see you all tomorrow...
[7:17] <irc_smirk> goodnight
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[7:19] <swift110-phone> Gn dude
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[7:40] <irc_smirk> this is cool https://youtu.be/BpEgPFR5dtY?t=678
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[7:58] <Ispira> http://www.amazon.com/PACK-SanDisk-MicroSD-SDSDQAB-008G-Packaging/dp/B00MHZ6ZJQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=518VASbg5oL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=17AMSJGHQ1PPPGB4KJTZ
[7:58] <Ispira> that's... probably a fake.
[7:58] <Ispira> it has to be.
[7:58] <Ispira> I sorta want to try my luck with it tbh
[7:59] <Ispira> the reviews actually show it to be potentially legit.
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[8:00] <irc_smirk> you know reviews are faked right
[8:00] <Ispira> "potentially"
[8:00] <Ispira> and reviews are not faked, the are /potentially/ fake
[8:01] <irc_smirk> only way to win is with fake money
[8:01] <Ispira> haha
[8:01] <Ispira> Amazon has good return policy though
[8:01] <Ispira> $17 for 5 SD cards?
[8:01] <Ispira> Sign me up.
[8:01] <irc_smirk> wait
[8:01] <irc_smirk> you might be the scamme
[8:02] <Ispira> OF course they're class 4 and slow as hell (probably)
[8:02] <Ispira> but for what I want them for, they'd work fine.
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[8:04] <Ispira> mainly I want them to avoid wear/tear on my main 32gb card
[8:05] <Ispira> while I'm switching things out constantly
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[8:05] <Ispira> and 8gb is plenty for me to set-up pre-done images to be offloaded to usb sticks for storage
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[8:08] <AiGreek> Good morning; guys
[8:09] <irc_smirk> no good ight
[8:11] <AiGreek> "Good ight", then :)
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[8:12] <MadeOfChromium> hello, is anyone available to help me? :)
[8:12] <irc_smirk> hi
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[8:13] <MadeOfChromium> so im trying to mount an img file to an SD card to put in the raspberry pi
[8:14] <AiGreek> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/README.md
[8:14] <MadeOfChromium> but it doesn't seem to work
[8:14] <MadeOfChromium> i formatted the SD card to ExFAT
[8:14] <MadeOfChromium> use mac terminal to try and mount the img file (sudo dd bs=1m if=/Users/madeofchromium/Downloads/OpenELEC-RPi.arm-6.0.0.img of=dev/disk2 )
[8:14] <MadeOfChromium> yeah i followed those
[8:14] <MadeOfChromium> and it says (292+0 records in 292+0 records out 306184192 bytes transferred in 2.812225 secs (108876132 bytes/sec))
[8:14] <MadeOfChromium> but the SD card is blank :/
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[8:15] <Xark> ExFAT? That sounds like a mistake...
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[8:15] <MadeOfChromium> oh, what should it be
[8:16] <Xark> ExFAT is proprietary MS crap (and anti-Linux). Just FAT or FAT32. However, if you copy an image for RPi, it should contain two partitions in it (and overwrite whatever formatting was on SD card).
[8:17] <Ispira> yeah should be replacing it
[8:17] <Ispira> shouldn't matter what format the sd card is to start with, though
[8:17] <MadeOfChromium> hmm it doesn't seem to be doing that. all partitions are as they were and the SD card is blank
[8:17] <Xark> MadeOfChromium: Are you sure you are writing the disk image to the "root" of the device, not a specific partition? How are you writing the image?
[8:18] <MadeOfChromium> yeah, im writting to /dev/disk2
[8:18] <MadeOfChromium> not /dev/disk2s1
[8:19] <Xark> MadeOfChromium: Interesting. Generally I'd expect a smallish FAT partition (aka /boot) and a larger Linux partition.
[8:19] <Ispira> here's the checklist, this is for linux so it might be a bit different
[8:19] <Ispira> but this is what i use
[8:19] <AiGreek> disk2s1 ? it's isn't rdisk2 ?
[8:19] <Ispira> rdisk2 is just the raw pointer to the disk
[8:19] <Ispira> it can be faster
[8:19] <Ispira> but disk2 and rdisk2 are equivalent mostly.
[8:19] <Ispira> Anyway, my checklist:
[8:19] <Ispira> # df -h <-- make sure nothing is mounted from the sd card, if it is:
[8:20] <Ispira> # umount /dev/<sdcard partition>
[8:20] <Ispira> then write the image
[8:20] <Ispira> # dd if=/path/to/disk.img of=/dev/<sdcard> bs=4M
[8:20] <MadeOfChromium> just tried rdisk. no dfference
[8:20] <Ispira> wait for it to complete, double-check my os didn't mount it with # df -h again
[8:21] <Ispira> if it did, umount it, if it didn't pop it out and it should work.
[8:21] <Ispira> it's a really important step to make sure NOTHING on the SD card is mounted before/while you're writing the image with dd
[8:22] <AiGreek> my pi is "under-voltage" don't know why ...
[8:22] <MadeOfChromium> yep, did all that, no luck
[8:22] <Ispira> bad SD card?
[8:22] <Ispira> have you tested it otherwise?
[8:22] <MadeOfChromium> I bought this new yesterday :/ files transfer on and off it via drag and drop fine
[8:23] <Ispira> what card is it?
[8:23] <AiGreek> perhaps the SD card is locked ^^
[8:23] <MadeOfChromium> nope lol
[8:23] <MadeOfChromium> kingston 8gb micro sd card
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[8:24] <MadeOfChromium> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-8GB-Micro-SD-HC/dp/B001CQT0X4/
[8:24] <MadeOfChromium> that
[8:24] <AiGreek> hey i've the same one :D
[8:25] <MadeOfChromium> have you had any problems with it?
[8:25] <MadeOfChromium> I can drag and drop NOOBS onto it, the RPi can boot from that
[8:25] <AiGreek> no :/
[8:26] <MadeOfChromium> but I can't install most things via NOOBS, becasue im using an RPi2 and most things seem to be incompatible
[8:26] <AiGreek> from this link https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/mac.md i used the "ALTERNATIVE METHOD" and it works perfect
[8:26] <gordonDrogon> Happy solstice ...
[8:27] <AiGreek> gordonDrogon It is today that we must sacrifice a goat to the gods?
[8:28] <lonefish> If you can't install stuff, I don't think the problem is with the card//
[8:29] <AiGreek> 'Morning, lonefish
[8:29] <MadeOfChromium> hmmm
[8:29] <lonefish> it's "only" a class 4, but I don't think that it should be an issue, only slower
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[8:29] <MadeOfChromium> im using unetbootin to mount a windows 10 iso as a test
[8:29] <lonefish> Morning, almost favorite frenchie :p
[8:29] <AiGreek> almost ? :(
[8:30] <lonefish> You said something yesterday which made you drop from the top spot, don't know what anymore tho :p
[8:30] <AiGreek> that i love nasty things ? xD
[8:32] <lonefish> don't know anymore :p
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[8:34] <AiGreek> how the **** i remove that http://imgur.com/wp0shBy ?
[8:34] <Ispira> is that the...boot...splash?
[8:34] <Ispira> AiGreek: I believe there's an option in in the config.txt...
[8:35] <Ispira> Let me check.
[8:35] <AiGreek> i read that it's the "under-voltage" warning
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[8:35] <AiGreek> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=82373
[8:36] <Ispira> that looks to me like it's the boot splash stuck on lol
[8:36] <Ispira> okay well that post says otherwise o
[8:36] <Ispira> so
[8:36] <Ispira> what power supply are you using?
[8:36] <AiGreek> it appear just after "startx" command and sometimes when i connect my usb key
[8:36] <AiGreek> output 5v 4.00A
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[8:37] <Ispira> does it ever go away or does it stick around?
[8:37] <r0b-> does rPi2 still need mpeg2 licenses?
[8:37] <mlelstv> you probably cannot avoid it.
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[8:37] <AiGreek> si it's not a real problem ? it's not dangerous to just hide this thing ?
[8:38] <AiGreek> i already burn one pi, don't want to do that again ^^'
[8:38] <mlelstv> you can hide that thing. But the warnings is there for a reason.
[8:38] <Ispira> AiGreek: does it ever go away, or does it stay on when you plug the stuff in/do startx and never turn off?
[8:39] <AiGreek> it appear a few seconds and disappear and come back, etc, ...
[8:39] <Ispira> sounds to me like a bad power supply.
[8:39] <mlelstv> whatever "bad" means.
[8:39] <Ispira> broken/shitty cheap china ling-hao/etc
[8:40] <Ispira> I use the adapter provided by a canakit, 2.5A, works fine, never saw that. Granted I'm on a Pi2 and it might not have those things..
[8:40] <Ispira> but i've had it overclocked under full load and no issues
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[8:41] <mlelstv> this here is a pi2 and it shows it when the led matrix (unicorn hat) has too many bright leds :)
[8:41] <AiGreek> http://imgur.com/JYduAWP my power supply
[8:41] <Ispira> hmph, all i can say is try with another power supply.
[8:42] <lonefish> I've had that in the beginning of working with my pi2
[8:42] <Ispira> i accidentally plugged my drawing tablet's usb cable, coming from my pc, into my pi2
[8:42] <Ispira> and i idn't notice for like 10 minutes
[8:42] <Ispira> my pc powered my pi through my drawing tablet's usb cable...just fine lol
[8:42] <lonefish> When I got around to looking why it did that, it stopped
[8:43] <Xark> You will never see that little square if you have adequate power (in my experience).
[8:44] <mlelstv> why a 4A power supply?
[8:44] <AiGreek> i'm trying with the "official" power supply
[8:45] <AiGreek> mlelstv it's the one from Raspiados project http://www.10la.org/
[8:46] <Xark> I used to see it when trying a USB HDD with my RPi2 and a 2A supply (and HDD not happy). With a 3A supply, no square and HDD happy (this is all without hub and the config.sys setting for hi-power USB).
[8:46] <AiGreek> seems to works fine since i change the power supply...
[8:47] <Ispira> Told you.
[8:47] <MadeOfChromium> unetbootin didnt work
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[8:52] <lonefish> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/39889/stuttering-playback-of-certain-mp4s
[8:52] <lonefish> I'm back with weird unsolved questions
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[8:57] <Xark> lonefish: I suspect your video was encoded with parameters that exceed SD card buffering initially (or possibly other buffering). You may be able to use omxplayer --threshold option to make it more conservative on buffering.
[8:58] <lonefish> didn't know buffering was in encoding?
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[8:59] <Xark> lonefish: Yep. Playback is "dumb" the smarts is mostly in encoding.
[9:00] <Xark> Usually there are certain buffering parameters that are agreed upon for classes of devices (i.e., DVD etc.)
[9:00] <lonefish> so I should go down in buffering?
[9:02] <Xark> Not positive, but I think you want a larger number after --threshold to increase buffering. This will also delay the start of playback...
[9:03] <lonefish> doesn't seem to have any impact.
[9:03] <lonefish> Tried with 1 and 100
[9:03] <lonefish> --threshold n Amount of buffered data required to finish buffering [s]
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[9:04] <lonefish> since it requires seconds, 100 should at least have a visible difference, but they seem to stutter at the exact same spot and stop at the exact same spot
[9:04] <Xark> lonefish: Hmm, there was an issue where it was ignored, but supposedly fixed in 2013 -> https://github.com/huceke/omxplayer/issues/160
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[9:06] <lonefish> that's with streams, I found other issues with network streams, but they all had to do with network rather than the file
[9:06] <Xark> Ahh
[9:06] <lonefish> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/3471/omxplayer-h-264-bitrates-and-encoding-settings-for-stutter-free-playback
[9:07] <lonefish> This seems to be related somehow, but they have issues with bitrates, which I clearly don't have, since I can playback 20Mbit and they can't get over 3Mbit..
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[9:09] <lonefish> I'm seriously wondering whether my commandline arguments do ANYTHING at all
[9:10] <lonefish> --treshold 1000 starts instantly
[9:11] <lonefish> (Well, the good thing is, it's a video of models, so it's not a boring video that I'm watching over and over again..
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[9:31] <MadeOfChromium> ITS WORKED!
[9:31] <MadeOfChromium> all i needed to do was change bs=1m to bs=4m
[9:31] <MadeOfChromium> idk what it means, but it's worked :D
[9:31] <MadeOfChromium> block size im guessing?
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[9:34] <lonefish> yeah, weird that that's blocking you from installing.. Wouldn't have guessed it tbh.
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[9:40] <Ispira> yeah
[9:40] <Ispira> bs=1m should in theory be more compatible
[9:40] <Ispira> just slower
[9:41] <Ispira> i'd assume it has sometihng to do with his sdcard being manufactured for that as a standard or somehing
[9:41] <lonefish> well, if that would be the case he shouldn't be able to boot at all, no?
[9:41] <realies> what would happen if you put a bigger buffer than the supported by the sd card?
[9:41] <realies> i mean the bs
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[9:42] <lonefish> black hole
[9:42] <realies> cuul
[9:42] <lonefish> (i honestly have no idea)
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[9:42] <realies> I assume that it would write with the max speed it supports
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[9:43] <lonefish> it's related, but its not the write speed
[9:43] <realies> it's a buffer to flush to the sd card, isn't it?
[9:44] <lonefish> correct me if I'm wrong, but bs = block size, it's the size of the blocks you're cutting your file in
[9:44] <lonefish> like the smallest possible thing you can write to your disk
[9:45] <lonefish> if you set it to 4mb for example and save a 1kb file, it will take 4mb on the disk
[9:46] <realies> I wouldn't think so
[9:46] <lonefish> or, that's not usable, but for example, if you set it to 4Gb, and save 2 1kb files on the disk, your disk will be "full"
[9:46] <realies> It should complete after the 1kb
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[9:48] <lonefish> System administrators will change the block size according to how disks are used, mainly taking into account the minimum size files on the disk and how many small files will be on the disk. If you have block sizes of 1MB, every time you create a small file, it will take up 1MB of space, and will fill the drive rather fast. The trade-off in creating larger disk blocks generally is faster disk access. For most uses, however, a 4K
[9:49] <lonefish> That's from cnet
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[9:49] <mlelstv> assuming you had a filesystem with 1MB blocks :)
[9:50] <realies> I would definitely not think that changing the block size to 1mb for example and writing a 1kb file to the disk would use 1mb on the disk
[9:50] <lonefish> Are you working on windows?
[9:50] <mlelstv> realies, that would be the case if the filesystem had a 1mb block size. But that doesn't exist.
[9:51] <mlelstv> or rather, it doesn't exist for SD cards :)
[9:51] <realies> mlelstv, it's a different thing, isn't it :)
[9:51] <realies> you have allocation unit size when formatting a drive on windows
[9:51] <realies> I assume this is the "block size"
[9:51] <mlelstv> yes
[9:52] <lonefish> indeed
[9:52] <mlelstv> linux filesystems usually have 4k
[9:52] <realies> so if you want to store a 6bytes file, it would take 4096 bytes if you've formatted your disk that way/
[9:52] <realies> ?
[9:52] <mlelstv> yes
[9:52] <realies> that's strange
[9:52] <mlelstv> why?
[9:52] <realies> I thought it would have some optimisation stuff that fills a block with more small files to be more efficient?
[9:53] <mlelstv> linux doesn't
[9:53] <mlelstv> that is: the standard filesystems.
[9:53] <chesty> yes, some file systems handle small files more efficiently than others
[9:53] <realies> ext4?
[9:53] <lonefish> it would have more overhead to fill it up than to just leave it
[9:53] <mlelstv> reiserfs supported this to a fine degree
[9:53] <chesty> murderfs
[9:53] <mlelstv> BSD FFS also does 'fragmentation' by splitting a block into up to 8 fragments.
[9:54] <lonefish> http://imgur.com/uas7xNc
[9:54] <realies> ha, cool!
[9:54] <lonefish> Grootte = Size, Grootte op schijf = Size on disk
[9:54] <realies> good example lonefish
[9:54] <lonefish> it's a txt file I just made with some random gibberish in it
[9:55] <mlelstv> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/16307/what-is-a-fragment-size-in-an-ext3-filesystem
[9:56] <teclo-> heh
[9:56] <realies> would ext4 be having better handling for fragmentation then?
[9:57] <teclo-> hi lonefish ... How do you call someone who is able to hack a Mac ? Hack a Mac ? .... een Mac hacken
[9:57] <realies> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4#Features
[9:57] <mlelstv> AFAIK it doesn't support fragments either.
[9:57] <teclo-> :P
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[9:57] <lonefish> lol :p Dutch?
[9:58] <teclo-> lonefish: Mac hacken... makakken :P
[9:58] <lonefish> Haha, didn't get it at first :p
[9:59] <teclo-> lonefish: good one heh ?
[9:59] <lonefish> So you're belgian :p
[9:59] <lonefish> yeah ^^
[9:59] <teclo-> lonefish: jazeker ;)
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[10:02] <lonefish> where are you from? :)
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[10:02] <teclo-> lonefish: Belgium :)
[10:03] <lonefish> (I'd like to keep it in english so other people won't think we're planning world domination)
[10:03] <mlelstv> .oO( You foul French upstart! - Madame, I am not a French upstart, I am a _Belgian_ upstart! )
[10:03] <lonefish> I'd say "Belgium is big".. But we both know that isn't true :p
[10:03] <lonefish> Well.. We speak dutch.. :p
[10:03] <AiGreek> haha "big"
[10:04] <lonefish> Shutup frenchie :p
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[10:04] <AiGreek> proud to be ....almost
[10:04] <teclo-> lonefish: http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20150603_01711860e good one too
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[10:04] <lonefish> bad link
[10:05] <teclo-> the link works from here
[10:06] <lonefish> "Sorry, we kunnen u deze pagina niet tonen."
[10:07] <AiGreek> "404 - PAGINA NIET GEVONDEN"
[10:07] <lonefish> See, even frenchie has a 404 :p
[10:07] <AiGreek> humpf
[10:07] * lonefish throws some belgian chocolate at AiGreek
[10:08] <teclo-> lonefish: http://www.gva.be/cnt/dmf20150901_01845612/rechter-spreekt-duo-vrij-voor-gebruik-makakken
[10:08] <AiGreek> chocolate ? give me a beer !!!!
[10:08] <deshipu> a chocolate bear?
[10:09] <lonefish> You might get drunk from a half beer
[10:09] <lonefish> since you're not used to decent beer
[10:09] <mlelstv> http://www.beerinfo.com/index.php/pages/chocolatebeers.html
[10:09] <mlelstv> defintely not swedish^Wbelgian
[10:09] <AiGreek> lonefish I'm shocked !
[10:10] <lonefish> Swedish? :p Who's talking about sweden?
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[10:10] <lonefish> AiGreek: why?
[10:10] <mlelstv> unless its borgbeer
[10:11] <AiGreek> lonefish it's not the first time i drink belgian beer :(
[10:11] <lonefish> haha :p
[10:11] <AiGreek> and i'm often sleepy after ...
[10:12] <lonefish> lol :p Which is your favourite?
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[10:13] <AiGreek> don't know if there is an english name but i love "La cuvée des trolls" \o/
[10:13] <lonefish> yeah, I know what you're talking about, haven't tried it tho
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[10:15] <Xark> Beer of the trolls? :)
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[10:16] <lonefish> yeah, that's the rough translation
[10:16] <lonefish> but I think the official name is french
[10:20] <Xark> Well, sounds very appropriate for many IRC channels. :)
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[10:22] <lonefish> true true
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[10:27] <lonefish> AiGreek: I need frenchie help :p What's producer in french (like music producer)
[10:28] <AiGreek> "producteur"
[10:28] <lonefish> thanks, google gave me 4 options, but didn't know which one was specific for the music
[10:28] <lonefish> want another beer?
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[10:29] <AiGreek> with pleasure
[10:29] * lonefish hands AiGreek a Duvel
[10:29] <AiGreek> thanks ^^
[10:31] <AiGreek> So, MPD is finally working
[10:31] <AiGreek> crapy sound, but it works
[10:31] <lonefish> MPD?
[10:31] <AiGreek> http://www.musicpd.org/
[10:32] <lonefish> spotify on your own collection-ish?
[10:33] <AiGreek> sort of
[10:33] <lonefish> nice, is it decent?
[10:33] <AiGreek> it's more like a musics server
[10:33] <AiGreek> it's pretty cool yes (music only btw)
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[10:34] <lonefish> since music is in the name I guessed it was music only :p
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[10:35] <AiGreek> i didn't know at first huhu
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[10:35] <lonefish> Lol :p
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[11:30] <pigrit> mahahaha I got my first proper solderer
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[11:31] * Xark stands clear...
[11:33] * ShorTie Thinkz, Congradulations
[11:34] <ShorTie> the key to soldering is a good tin
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[11:39] <Swensson> So true
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[12:04] <_jamesl> What is the difference between the foundation's minimal raspbian image and the normal raspbian image? What Isn't included?
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[12:06] <jancoow> Hi
[12:06] <ShorTie> mostly the GUI stuff
[12:07] <jancoow> looking for a way to emulate the pi as a HID device
[12:07] <jancoow> anyone experience with this?
[12:07] <lonefish> is it possible?
[12:07] <Xark> jancoow: Hmm, you may be better off with a Arduino Micro or similar for that.
[12:07] <lonefish> I know you could do it with the arduino uno, but you had to reflash the firmware
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[12:08] <jancoow> damn
[12:08] <jancoow> doesn't have one laying aroudn
[12:08] <jancoow> i though you could emulate that over serial port
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[12:09] <Xark> jancoow: AFAIK, Raspberry Pi is USB host not device.
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[12:09] <Xark> (but it is perhaps not impossible with USB OTG etc.)
[12:09] <Xark> jancoow: You can do serial over serial port, but not USB AFAIK.
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[12:10] <lonefish> just googling, found a topic that gives this as a possible solution : https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/gadget_hid.txt
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[12:11] <lonefish> but this looks more like emulation on the device itself
[12:11] <lonefish> like emulate a keyboard on your pi
[12:11] <lonefish> not use your pi as a keyboard
[12:11] <MY123> Xark, the Pi0 is USB Device
[12:11] <MY123> (and USB-hoswt
[12:11] <MY123> *host capable)
[12:12] <jancoow> well, what a really wanna do is create a dj controller with a pi and use it in MIXXX :) so it has to act like a midi OR HID device (and i prefer HID because you can actually send things back like led color )
[12:13] <jancoow> lonefish: mmm.. that hid gadget emulator is really nice! with that i can just send the data from the pi to my programm on the pc (over serial -> usb) and then emulate a hid device
[12:14] <lonefish> Haha, I fumbled with the arduino with the exact same idea, a dj controller
[12:14] <jancoow> naice
[12:15] <lonefish> it 'worked' as in, I got it to send notes
[12:15] <lonefish> And because it worked, i was no longer interested and never made it decent :p
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[12:16] <lonefish> I was playing with keyboard's too, to use their keys as midi/hid, but never got that to work tho
[12:16] <lonefish> (qwerty-azerty keyboards, not piano keyboards)
[12:16] <jancoow> i'm currently working on the jog wheels
[12:17] <lonefish> what are you using?
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[12:17] <jancoow> harddrives
[12:17] <lonefish> nice, Always seemed nice, never had the knowledge to get it working, so didn't bother :p
[12:18] <lonefish> Are you a dj?
[12:18] <jancoow> hehe nope
[12:18] <lonefish> haha :p
[12:18] <jancoow> well sometimes on little parties with mixxx xD
[12:18] <lonefish> never tried mixxx,
[12:18] <jancoow> mixxx is awesome :)
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[12:19] <jancoow> version 2 will be launched this week
[12:19] <lonefish> i went with the conventional big names
[12:19] <lonefish> to have a bit more reliability
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[12:19] <lonefish> And now I'm just using rekordbox, which works over lan, so no longer with midi/hid
[12:19] <lonefish> Which is a big improvement
[12:21] <jancoow> never heard of rekordbox
[12:21] <jancoow> looks nice
[12:21] <lonefish> It's from pioneer, works with their cdj's
[12:22] <lonefish> (and only their)
[12:22] <lonefish> They have the dj-version now too, which is basically a rip-off of serato
[12:22] <jancoow> lol
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[12:55] <d4rkforce> I was thinking about setting up a retropie installation for a friend. So far I have always deployed RPIs with a read only filesystem because of the fear of sd card corruption in case of a power failure
[12:56] <d4rkforce> Has anyone used retropie with a ro fs? maybe with a small rw partition for config and savegames that is reset on boot if there a errors in the filesystem?
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[13:38] <swift110-phone> Good morning
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[13:53] <lonefish> meurning
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[14:00] <swift110-phone> How r u lonefish
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[14:02] <lonefish> I'm fine, thanks, already afternoon over here tho :p
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[14:06] <swift110-phone> Oh ok
[14:06] <swift110-phone> What are you up too
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[14:10] <lonefish> work :p
[14:10] <lonefish> you?
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[14:27] <DoctorD90> hi! t3chguy mgottschlag mgottschlag2 :D i have a surprise :D ....my seller send me plans of Gy91 :D
[14:27] <t3chguy> cool
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[14:28] <DoctorD90> im seeing schemes :D and there asre other stuff too :D
[14:29] <DoctorD90> t3chguy, do you have the some ic rigth?
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[14:30] <t3chguy> I have a board with the same accelerometer and gyro
[14:30] <DoctorD90> in any case...
[14:30] <DoctorD90> t3chguy, https://www.adrive.com/public/DGn6Fw/FZ1809-GY-91%20MPU9250_BMP280.rar
[14:32] <DoctorD90> lol...scheme of chip, and also "drivers" :D great :D
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[14:39] <pigrit> bloody hell ??
[14:40] <pigrit> AiGreek dude you around
[14:40] <AiGreek> always
[14:40] <pigrit> Votre colis a quitté le pays d'origine. D:
[14:40] <pigrit> mind
[14:40] <pigrit> blown
[14:40] <AiGreek> they are faster for you than me -_-'
[14:41] <pigrit> I was already cussing because they changed "available from 20th dec" to "available from 28th dec"
[14:42] <pigrit> there's now a serious risk I may be watching die hard on the piscreen this xmas
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[14:43] <AiGreek> pigrit help me http://imgur.com/a/l5ui8 :D
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[14:45] <schmodd> i am running a raspberry pi B on archlinux arm and just did a fresh install - now i configured motion without recording but cpu load is 100% all the time ... is that normal?
[14:45] <schmodd> does motion use gpu?
[14:45] <jancoow> damn.. i hate the hard wind outside
[14:45] <jancoow> couldn't fly my raspberry pi quadcopter for days now ;p
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[14:57] <H__> jancoow: do you have photos online of that rpi-quad ?
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[15:18] <Affix> heres a quick code example using wiringpi in ruby : https://gist.github.com/Affix/d95cd49c44e5ceec30bc
[15:19] <Affix> Created a little christmas light string using 2 strings of 20 LEDs
[15:19] <Affix> Bought from Asda in the UK for £1 each
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[15:19] <Affix> they are initially battery powered if anyone wants to have a play
[15:20] <gordonDrogon> Affix, Asda lights to a Pi - fantastic!
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[15:20] <Affix> gordonDrogon: Nice little project to waste time haha
[15:23] <snowkidind> issues with vim on rasbpian
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[15:23] <gordonDrogon> why?
[15:24] <snowkidind> first caveat: i am just starting to play with vim
[15:24] <gordonDrogon> ok. I've used vim for decades..
[15:24] <snowkidind> but on my other two terminal machines ive been successful
[15:24] <snowkidind> but the build i made from github
[15:24] <snowkidind> is a mess
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[15:24] <gordonDrogon> is it possible you still ... oh. you built from source? I've not done that for vim for .. decades.
[15:25] <snowkidind> the arrow key fix and the delete key behave unpredictably
[15:25] <snowkidind> i tried apt get and it bugged out so iwent to the site
[15:25] <gordonDrogon> vim-tiny is installed by defualt - you need to install vim then remove vim-tiny.
[15:25] <gordonDrogon> (usually)
[15:26] <snowkidind> how does one uninstall something they make installed?
[15:26] <gordonDrogon> if the makefile is sane, then make uninstall usually works.
[15:26] <snowkidind> sorry ive never had to do that
[15:27] <snowkidind> ok
[15:28] <gordonDrogon> I use vim on my desktop and all my Pi's. (desktop is also Linux)
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[15:28] <snowkidind> im trying to accept the challenge of using vim as an ide
[15:28] <Encrypt> Hi o/
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[15:29] <gordonDrogon> I'd be tempted to use what you're already used to...
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[15:29] <snowkidind> i usually work from one machine and terminal to other machines but for the last few years i have only coded on my macpro
[15:29] <snowkidind> xcode mostly. phpstorm and bbedit
[15:29] <gordonDrogon> it's easy for me to suggest vim, but I've been using vim & makefiles for probably 30 years now (vi before vim)
[15:29] <snowkidind> vim -v
[15:29] <snowkidind> oops
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[15:31] <snowkidind> i figure i am learning a bunch of new stuff right now, pi gpio, c++, open cv
[15:32] <snowkidind> might as well throw vim in there too
[15:32] <gordonDrogon> :)
[15:32] <snowkidind> im so over objective c and it makes no sense to me to learn swift
[15:32] <snowkidind> whereas c++ is on every machine ever
[15:33] <snowkidind> that makes a lot more sense
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[15:38] <Apocx> I love C++. Though I find myself making my C++ programs more C#-like as time goes on.
[15:39] <gordonDrogon> I don't like c++
[15:39] <gordonDrogon> I spent a year working in it some 16 years ago and have not touched it since.
[15:39] <netsrot> are you using java now instead? =)
[15:40] <Apocx> C# is my go-to language nowadays unless I'm developing on Linux
[15:40] <Apocx> and don't feel like using Mono
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[15:40] <Apocx> so basically Pi stuff
[15:40] <jonatan> hello
[15:40] <gordonDrogon> I code in C and BASIC these days.
[15:41] <netsrot> why basic?
[15:41] <gordonDrogon> because I like it and wrote my own interpreter for it.
[15:41] <gordonDrogon> (in C)
[15:41] <gordonDrogon> it may even be installed on your Pi - type 'rtb' in a terminal window...
[15:42] <netsrot> it's not
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> ah well.
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> you can apt-get install rtb if you want, but it's only basic.
[15:43] <netsrot> yes I found it "return to basic"
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[15:43] <netsrot> But for me it wouldn't be returning since I have never used it.
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[15:44] <Apocx> I used to program in BASIC on my TI-84 calculator :P
[15:44] <netsrot> I prefer sticking to C.
[15:44] <RavenII> I'm trying to configure a Rpi0 to use as a carputer....when I plug in a windows machine into the headunit, windows automatically goes to 720x480 resolution...how can I get that on the Pi?
[15:44] <gordonDrogon> rtb is about 30K lines of C.
[15:44] <RavenII> All I get is a black screen though.
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[15:49] <jonatan> RavenII: maybe you can ssh into the pi and change reso with xrandr
[15:50] <RavenII> jonatan, I'll give that a shot, I've tried by changing the group/mode of the HDMI in config.txt, but no luck
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[15:55] <netsrot> Is there anyone working on optimizing a webbrowser for the rpi?
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[15:57] <Hectate> RavenII: what kind of connector?
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[15:58] <snowkidind> I have a few iOS games that were written with Cocos 2d
[15:58] <snowkidind> I can port all of them to anything if i can get good at C++
[15:59] <snowkidind> id rather do that than java
[15:59] <gordonDrogon> netsrot, the foundation supplied browser is pretty well optimised as far as I know.
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[15:59] <Hectate> snowkidind: I've been using Stencyl; it exports using Haxe so it can go to quite a few different platforms (including C++ for the pi presumably, although I have yet to try it out)
[15:59] <netsrot> gordonDrogon: which once is that?
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[16:00] <RavenII> Hectate, HDMI
[16:00] <snowkidind> Im gonna write a programming language called BACON
[16:01] <lonefish> I'll write EGGS
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[16:01] <snowkidind> Perfect. It will be the new HTML / CSS
[16:01] <Hectate> but what about OJ?
[16:02] <snowkidind> The “Javascript” can be PEPPER
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[16:02] <snowkidind> ok sounds like a suite, BACON EGGS OJ and PEPPER
[16:02] <snowkidind> that will look great on a CV
[16:03] <netsrot> gordonDrogon: is it this one? raspberrypi.org/blog/web-browser-released/
[16:04] <gordonDrogon> netsrot, yes, I think so - it's installed by defualt on new images now.
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[16:05] <netsrot> gordonDrogon: ok, thanks.
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[16:06] <lonefish> We'll just call the combo "BREAKFAST"
[16:06] <snowkidind> its a vision
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[16:08] <snowkidind> bacon - bad a$$ computers over network
[16:08] <snowkidind> but maybe a new network protocol that is undetectable by ehternet
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[16:22] <Arte_Vandelay> hey I'm having a small issue.. I set up a windows smb share and gave the folder full access. I'm trying to access the folder on my Pi by mounting it to a folder with cifs. It connects and displays the share's free space but I cannot even read a file inside the share because it says I don't have permission. here is the command I use to get the connection: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.149/Pi_Upload /home/pi/pi_upload -o
[16:22] <Arte_Vandelay> sec=ntlm,username=rpi,password=raspi2,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777
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[16:23] <rikrikrik> hey
[16:24] <rikrikrik> anyone online who can give me some advice
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[16:25] <AiGreek> about what ?
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[16:26] * ShorTie Thinkz, The sky is blue
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[16:27] <rikrikrik> sudo echo "p1165757" >> /etc/openvpn/PIA/auth.txt -bash: /etc/openvpn/PIA/auth.txt: Permission denied
[16:27] <rikrikrik> any idea what i can do so i can get that to work
[16:28] <JK-47> your redirect isnt sudo'd
[16:28] * ShorTie Thinkz, Double sudo maybe
[16:28] <netsrot> gordonDrogon: epiphany was even less usable and slower then unoptimized firefox because there was no option to disable javascript.
[16:29] <JK-47> sudo bash -c "echo "p1165757" >> /etc/openvpn/PIA/auth.txt"
[16:29] <JK-47> or just jump your shell. sudo -i or sudo su -
[16:30] <JK-47> or sudo tee /etc/openvpn/PIA/auth.tx <<< p1165757
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[16:31] <JK-47> tee is very helpful in this case. I guess you could just append it in your case. sudo echo p1165757 | sudo tee -a /etc/openvpn/PIA/auth.txt
[16:31] <JK-47> make a backup of the file first ;)
[16:31] <rikrikrik> 47 i love you
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[16:31] <rikrikrik> i spent 2 hrs googling my head out
[16:32] <gordonDrogon> netsrot, give that feedback back to the foundation -see what they come up with?
[16:32] <jonatan> I am trying to run my 1794a based dac from the i2s of the rpi2, I get sound with volumio selecting the hifiberry_dac overlay. However on spotify and airplay all sound is downmixed to mono somehow. Any tips?
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[16:34] <JK-47> Im trying to use here strings (<<< more often in code, since its gaining acceptance on most platforms I work on.
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[16:37] <jonatan> I see that the hifiberry_dac points to a codec for pcm5102a, I am assuming this is wrong. Would creating a similiar (https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-4.1.y/sound/soc/bcm/hifiberry_dac.c) ASoC driver for my dac pointing to the pcm1794a codec be a potential fix?
[16:37] <jancoow> h__ yeah could send you some
[16:38] <jancoow> H__ let me search ;p
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[16:39] <jancoow> jancokock.me/f/bd9e2
[16:39] <jancoow> https://jancokock.me/f/bd9e2
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[16:40] <JK-47> nice jan. which model 3d printed base did you use?
[16:40] <jancoow> it did fly.. but i can't fly very good. But it was stable, just need a little bit more tuning.
[16:41] <jancoow> JK-47: none
[16:41] <JK-47> I may buy some nav hardware from DJI, and just 3d print a chassis for it
[16:41] <jancoow> i bought it from china
[16:41] <JK-47> ahh ok, the arms look printed
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[16:41] <JK-47> i guess in bulk thermoformed is cheaper
[16:42] <jancoow> i'm working on a 2 axis camera system now
[16:42] <JK-47> a gimble?
[16:43] <malinus> I wonder when we will see xenomai kernal patches for 4.x, for arm
[16:43] <jancoow> wanna implement automatic stabilizing or something
[16:43] <jancoow> yeah gimble
[16:43] <JK-47> whats the name of the kit you used?
[16:43] <jancoow> none, searched parts togheter
[16:43] <jancoow> i can send you a list
[16:43] <JK-47> https://www.thingiverse.com/search/page:1?q=gimble&sa=
[16:44] <JK-47> check there. a better search may come up with parts already made for it
[16:44] <JK-47> i know ive seen rpi camera gimbles
[16:44] <JK-47> and gopro
[16:44] <JK-47> 3dhubs.com are normal people who you can request stuff printed through
[16:44] <jancoow> i doesn't have a 3d printer unfortinally, but i can print stuff at school (we have like 10 3d printers there lol)
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[16:45] <jancoow> i wanna hang my sony handycam underneath it
[16:45] <JK-47> ahh. that ones longer. got to be careful about weigh distribution
[16:45] <jancoow> its about 400grams i think. This quad can lift 3.6kg and its exactly 1kg itself
[16:46] <malinus> Anyone got on the embedded elixir fad yet :)?
[16:46] <jancoow> JK-47: part list here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gIO54HN8jy6OOpJRUn9MFVa-d837mRsM1BPP9IrZF-U/edit
[16:46] <JK-47> nice thanks
[16:47] <malinus> jancoow: interesting. Is it just something you are planning or?
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[16:47] <jancoow> malinus: no, https://jancokock.me/f/bd9e2
[16:47] <lonefish> JK-47: what country/ies do they deliver to?
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[16:48] <JK-47> lonefish: which? 3dhub? i guess where ever there are people printing
[16:48] <jancoow> JK-47 do you think plastic is strong enoufh for the gimbal? i'm creating it from metal now
[16:48] <JK-47> i need to repair my printer and start my hub back up
[16:48] <JK-47> jancoow: yeah.
[16:48] <lonefish> it's not a single service, it's more a community then?
[16:48] <JK-47> i 3d printed a hollow storm trooper helmet, and i can stand on it
[16:48] <jancoow> everyone can join 3dhub right?
[16:48] <lonefish> nice
[16:49] <JK-47> actually i have lots of 3d printed camera mounts. esp custom gopro ones for my bike or car
[16:49] <malinus> jancoow: cool. Are you still running linux on it? If so, what do you using for the real time part? xenomai? RTAI?
[16:49] <JK-47> jancoow: yeah. if print quality is high enough
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[16:50] <jancoow> malinus: well.. i'm still running on linux indeed.. And i know this isn't smart because this is not a real time os.. But it works so far. I'm just running raspbian lols
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[16:51] <jancoow> and it's written in python, what also isn't the best programming language for it. But it works, for now :)
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[16:52] <jancoow> i've a video somewhere
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[16:54] <malinus> jancoow: wow really? That's impressive. I've figured you at least ran some minimal root system (using buildroot or w/e)!
[16:54] <jancoow> malinus: tried several times to create the os with buildroot but i failed everytime
[16:54] <jancoow> raspberry pi wasn't booting
[16:55] <jancoow> and i still didn't figured out why it wasn't booting
[16:55] <jancoow> or at least: it was booting but hangs halfway the booting process
[16:55] <malinus> jancoow: hmmm. I've done it a dozen of times, every time I was amazed it just worked out of the box. What is the last dmesg?
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[16:57] <jancoow> malinus: it's quite time ago.. uhm random: nonblocking pool is initiated
[16:58] <jancoow> if you wanna help me it would be awesome! :)
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[16:58] <malinus> jancoow: did you use the default config file that comes with buildroot?
[16:59] <jancoow> malinus: i configured it myself, and i used also that one on the github from raspberry pi
[16:59] <jancoow> both didn't work
[16:59] <jancoow> malinus: i think i'm doing something wrong with the parition or the boot folder
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[17:00] <malinus> jancoow: I would suggest getting the newest version of buildroot. Then just following their simple instructions. https://git.busybox.net/buildroot/tree/board/raspberrypi/readme.txt
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[17:01] <jancoow> malinus: i did exactly what was standing there lols
[17:01] <malinus> Did you remember to set up the devie tree?
[17:01] <rikrikrik> ok jk-47 i hope you can help again
[17:01] <JK-47> 42
[17:01] <AiGreek> lonefish time to go home !
[17:02] <rikrikrik> pi@raspberrypi:/etc/openvpn $ sudo service openvpn start pi@raspberrypi:/etc/openvpn $ Broadcast message from root@raspberrypi (Tue 2015-12-22 16:00:53 UTC): Password entry required for 'Enter Auth Username:' (PID 20759). Please enter password with the systemd-tty-ask-password-agent tool!
[17:02] <lonefish> ?
[17:02] <lonefish> still half an hour :p
[17:02] <jancoow> malinus: it quite a time ago. I think i'm going to try it all over again exactly from your readme.txt
[17:03] <AiGreek> lonefish oops sorry ^^
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[17:03] <lonefish> haha :p
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[17:04] <JK-47> if using it in service mode, you need to run this in another terminal at the same time. systemd-tty-ask-password --query
[17:04] <JK-47> i think.. :P
[17:04] <malinus> jancoow: yeah. It really *should* work. Just don't tweak anything at the first run.
[17:04] <JK-47> not sure how to disable systemd agent based passwords vs pw fed into it in config
[17:06] <malinus> jancoow: is the flight-controller software running on your raspberry open source?
[17:07] <rikrikrik> jk the first help was setting up a password file with the username and passwords :/
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[17:08] <JK-47> so is it accepting the user/pass file but still wall messaging?
[17:09] <jancoow> malinus: yeah its opensource.. but its not really good code. Atm the repository is private, i can make it public :0
[17:09] <rikrikrik> openvpn is doing my head in :(
[17:12] <malinus> jancoow: sure, do that. Is it based on some other opensource flight controller?
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[17:13] <jancoow> malinus: https://github.com/jancoow/RPI-copter
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[17:16] <jancoow> malinus: don't expect to much of it. It isn't great code
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[17:17] <malinus> jancoow: is there any reason not to use the pwm you get on the chip? (I've never looked into it, just wondering)
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[17:17] <rikrikrik_> back
[17:17] <H__> jancoow: hey that rpiquad looks cool !
[17:19] <rikrikrik_> jk47 im trying hard to follow these instructions
[17:19] <rikrikrik_> http://blog.frd.mn/raspberry-pi-vpn-gateway/
[17:19] <jancoow> malinus: well, the raspberry pi just have 1 pwm pin. And i though software pwm wasn't very acurate (and any distortion could be fatal). Now last day i saw someone which just uses every gpio pin as pwm pin with support of the dma timing or something for acurate pwm timings. Didn't know that before.
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[17:20] <H__> jancoow: I use pwm on about 20 pins to drive some led bars
[17:20] <malinus> jancoow: I see, thanks
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[17:24] <jancoow> H__: and how accurate are the pwm signals? Does this affect cpu power ?
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[17:26] <H__> i do not know how accurate it is compared to the special pwm pin. Here's the thing -> http://RasPi.tv/2013/how-to-use-soft-pwm-in-rpi-gpio-pt-2-led-dimming-and-motor-speed-control
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[17:28] <jancoow> ah, like the second paragraph from the webpage tell us that servo's doesn't accept the signal because its not precise :)
[17:28] <jancoow> i tried it with gpio pin 4 on my ESC and it was jittering too
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[17:32] <malinus> jancoow: don't listen to what people say, controlling your pwm with that board is probably the best option (so far) :).
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[17:32] <jancoow> malinus: yeah :)
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[17:34] <gordonDrogon> don't try software PWM with a servo/ESC - unless it's the type of PWM driven by the DMA engine on the Pi.
[17:34] <gordonDrogon> you WILL burn out the servo.
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[17:35] * gordonDrogon speaks from experience.
[17:35] <jancoow> LOL
[17:35] <gordonDrogon> I do these things so you don't have to ...
[17:36] <jancoow> malinus: https://jancokock.me/f/501a8/ for another video :)
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[17:36] <gordonDrogon> I wrote a software Servo PWM module for wiringPi once ... then decided to remove it.
[17:36] <gordonDrogon> actually, the code is still there, but not compiled into the release.
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[17:37] <gordonDrogon> jancoow, has it flown yet?
[17:38] <jancoow> gordonDrogon: yes!
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[17:38] <irc_smirk> hello
[17:39] <Chillum> hi
[17:39] <irc_smirk> raspberry pi zero is available
[17:39] <abnormal> where?
[17:39] <irc_smirk> at my local microcenter. should i drive the 1.2 hours there
[17:39] <Chillum> ohhh
[17:39] <irc_smirk> http://www.microcenter.com/product/457746/Zero_Development_Board
[17:39] <Chillum> get extra and I will send you bitcoins for some! hehe
[17:39] <abnormal> dang, too far away for me
[17:39] <irc_smirk> i need bitcoin
[17:39] <abnormal> 3k miles for me
[17:39] <Chillum> ohh one per household even in store...
[17:40] <Chillum> I have bitcoin, need zero!
[17:40] <gordonDrogon> take the family and pay cash ...
[17:40] <eggy> I'd like a Zero board.. but I can wait.. hopefully one day the stock will be sane for the zero boards =p
[17:40] <irc_smirk> i could pick up the pi 2 dont have that
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[17:41] <irc_smirk> $29 http://www.microcenter.com/product/443781/Raspberry_Pi_2_Model_B
[17:41] <Hectate> irc_smirk: I picked up one on black friday... my first pi too
[17:41] <eggy> I have quite the collection of Pi.. :>
[17:41] <Chillum> pi 2 is great but I already have 16 of them
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[17:42] <irc_smirk> lol
[17:42] <irc_smirk> i knew microcenter would stock up today
[17:42] <abnormal> Chillum, get 17 more
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[17:42] <irc_smirk> i called them on sunday. they hinted at it. but they also said they would honor backorders first.
[17:43] <eggy> guess its hard to get, as its so cheap.. $5
[17:43] <eggy> seehs
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[17:43] <Chillum> abnormal: About 100mhz per $1 for the Pi 2, 200mhz per $1 for the pi zero. If I get 17 more, they will be zeros
[17:44] <irc_smirk> what else can i get there
[17:44] <snowkidind> is that micro center rockville?
[17:44] <Chillum> gather up day labourers and get them to each buy 1
[17:44] <Hectate> irc_smirk: houston?
[17:44] <snowkidind> wondering because it says its in stock
[17:44] <irc_smirk> cali
[17:44] <Hectate> ah
[17:44] <Hectate> the houston one has a lot of pi and arduino stuff
[17:44] <Hectate> presumably the others will as well
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[17:44] <abnormal> lol, Chillum
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[17:47] <Viper168> so
[17:47] <abnormal> ho
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[17:49] <Viper168> wht would you think about a crowdfunding campaign to pay someone to work on a completely open usb controller driver for an atmega controller, that can be used with the pi and other devices or just to make a usb gamepad easily, licensed to allow use in any way anyone pleases
[17:49] <Viper168> to give something for everyone to use and help stimulate the community a bit too
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[17:50] <rikrikrik_> i have 2 xeros now but im still working on my B+ project and im not going well
[17:50] <Viper168> solve the control issue for anyone building a device
[17:50] <rikrikrik_> zeros
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[17:50] <Viper168> even if they want to sell the device
[17:50] <abnormal> Viper168, try Kickstarter?
[17:51] <Viper168> as well making it really easy for anyone who wants to make a custom compatible usb controller
[17:51] <irc_smirk> i woudl like someone to solve the ridiculous wires that stick out of a pi zero
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[17:51] <Viper168> for any use
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[17:51] <irc_smirk> a hat that is simple to snap on that gives you the real usb, ethernet, and battery power
[17:51] <Viper168> irc_smirk, yeah some better port inclusions would be nice
[17:52] <irc_smirk> basically a pi 2 ;)
[17:52] <Viper168> dunno about ethernet being that important
[17:52] <Viper168> a wifi dongle is much more suited for the zero
[17:52] <irc_smirk> ok but wifi built in
[17:52] <Viper168> or yeah
[17:52] <irc_smirk> foget dongle, put it on a chip
[17:52] <Viper168> built in wifi
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[17:53] <irc_smirk> wifi on chip, and lithium battery hook up
[17:53] <irc_smirk> thats a winner
[17:53] <Viper168> but yeah usb and power system are the biggest weaknesses
[17:54] <irc_smirk> make it a $10 pi
[17:54] <Chillum> I wonder what they will name the next version of the zero...
[17:54] <Chillum> zero.1?
[17:54] <Chillum> zero +
[17:54] <Hectate> double-zero-pi
[17:54] <Viper168> I'm thinking in order to get the option to output video easily from my handheld device I may just connect the lcd in the top of the clamshell to the bottom of the clamshell with the mini hdmi port mounted to be external
[17:54] <Viper168> just use a midget cable between
[17:55] <Viper168> then when plugging it into a tv or monitor unplug it and plug the cable into the bottom half
[17:55] <irc_smirk> any thoughts on if this is worth getting
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[17:55] <irc_smirk> http://www.microcenter.com/product/451897/PiTFT_28_TFT_320x240__Capacitive_Touchscreen_-_Raspberry_Pi_Model_B
[17:55] <Viper168> would be nice if there were more video output options
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[17:56] <Viper168> going to pull composite off the board
[17:56] <Viper168> and throw on an audio filter to complete that output
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[18:00] <H__> Viper168: HiFiBerry Digi+ with SPDIF ?
[18:00] <irc_smirk> capacitive or resisitive?
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[18:01] <Viper168> irc_smirk, I think you'll get it cheaper from adafruit
[18:01] <irc_smirk> its the same price
[18:01] <irc_smirk> https://www.adafruit.com/products/2423
[18:02] <irc_smirk> though this says model b
[18:02] <irc_smirk> i hope its not for the old b
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[18:03] <Viper168> H__, ?
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[18:10] <irc_smirk> maybe i will pick up a pi zero
[18:10] <irc_smirk> then sell it on craigslist for $20
[18:10] <irc_smirk> and pay off half my screen
[18:10] <Hectate> I want to get a small touchscreen for my pi zero, and a battery pack, and build myself a forearm computer
[18:11] <Hectate> i have no reason to need one but it would be a cool project
[18:11] <Hectate> i was thinking one of those smartphone holders for people that jog would be a good mounting solution
[18:11] <irc_smirk> or you can put a cellphone with rubber bands
[18:11] <Hectate> yeah, but I want to *build* it myself
[18:11] <irc_smirk> neeeerd!
[18:11] <irc_smirk> ;)
[18:13] <H__> Viper168: for proper sound, this thing https://www.sossolutions.nl/hifiberry-digi-standard-version-met-spacers-voor-de-b-en-2b
[18:13] <irc_smirk> ok sorry this is cute http://i.imgur.com/Z3mpeUB.gifv
[18:13] <Lonefish> haha
[18:13] <Chillum> irc_smirk: sell it to me for $20
[18:14] <irc_smirk> plus shipping
[18:14] <irc_smirk> where you located
[18:14] <Hectate> i picked up a 2nd pi0 but it's for my brother
[18:14] <Chillum> Canada, no problem
[18:14] <Chillum> I got paypal or bitcoin
[18:14] <irc_smirk> like 1 bitcoin?
[18:14] <irc_smirk> ;)
[18:15] <irc_smirk> mayb eyou got them super cheap rigth :)
[18:15] <Chillum> I will giv eyou 1 bitcoin for 100 zeros hehe
[18:15] <Chillum> sure I can find a use
[18:16] <irc_smirk> ok i think i will drive over to microcenter
[18:16] <irc_smirk> worse case i get a pi 2 an dmaybe a touch screen
[18:17] <Chillum> have fun. WIsh I had one of those places around here
[18:17] <irc_smirk> last time i walked in for a pi 2 and spent $80 on other random shit i havent even touched
[18:17] <Hectate> ha
[18:17] <Hectate> my pi zero cost me $5... plus $30 for accessories required for use :)
[18:18] <irc_smirk> i want to make a gif player picture frame
[18:18] <Chillum> I am going to make a raspbian image modified to act as a usb ethernet when plugged into usb. Then yo uonly need 1 usb cord to use it
[18:18] <traeak> build everything on rpiB then mass deploy on rpi0
[18:19] <Chillum> another way yes
[18:19] <irc_smirk> wait what
[18:19] <irc_smirk> you can connect pi to usb and have it think its ethernet?
[18:20] <abnormal> http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-70594/l/active-learning-module--a-low-cost-hardware-development-platform
[18:20] <Chillum> I was reading about it last night
[18:20] <Chillum> let me find it
[18:20] <Chillum> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/1212 <--
[18:21] <Chillum> hmm there is a better link
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[18:22] <Chillum> ahh here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=851045 and the magic: http://linux-sunxi.org/USB_Gadget
[18:22] <Chillum> not sure of anyone has actually gotten it working, but should allow for a cheap cluster using only a usb hub
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[18:38] <irc_smirk> these hdmi to vga converters are ridiculously expensive
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[18:38] <Hectate> everything HDMI is crazy expensive :P
[18:38] <Chillum> they are not passive though converters
[18:38] <Chillum> little dacs
[18:38] <traeak> vga is pita
[18:38] <TheLostAdmin> considering they have to convert high-speed high-resolution digital to medium/low resolution analog, I'm not surprised at the cost.
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[18:39] <Viper168> irc_smirk, don't get them from microcenter
[18:39] <Viper168> they're going to be a lot more expensive there
[18:40] <irc_smirk> yeah i shoudl just get a proper hdmi monitor/tv
[18:40] <TheLostAdmin> I'm kind of surprised you have a VGA only monitor/tv.
[18:40] <irc_smirk> from moving around
[18:41] <traeak> i have a small asus monitor i use with my servers...vga only
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[18:41] <irc_smirk> whats a decent hdmi tv i can get thats reasonable size to put up on a wall
[18:42] <irc_smirk> and view from maybe 10-15 feet away
[18:42] <Chillum> 55"
[18:42] <Chillum> hehe
[18:42] <irc_smirk> no no
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[18:42] <irc_smirk> i dont want to make it a throne
[18:42] <TheLostAdmin> irc_smirk, you might need to be a bit more specific.
[18:42] <irc_smirk> well basically i want to use it with chromecast
[18:43] <TheLostAdmin> In terms of "decent" TV, I stick to Sony, Samsung, and LG.
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[18:43] <irc_smirk> will $200 do now days?
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[18:43] <TheLostAdmin> If you don't want a big TV, you can get a decent one for $200.
[18:43] <TheLostAdmin> If you want it to be a computer monitor, get a computer monitor, not a TV.
[18:44] <irc_smirk> no im ok with monitor. i have a apple display
[18:44] <irc_smirk> sucks that it has no hdmi
[18:44] <irc_smirk> typical
[18:44] <TheLostAdmin> You can get 20" monitors with VESA mounting capabilities if you don't need huge.
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[18:44] <TheLostAdmin> I don't like mounting on walls because it leaves ugly dangling wires.
[18:45] <Chillum> unless you route it all into the wall behind the tv
[18:45] <Chillum> but that is a lot of effort
[18:45] <irc_smirk> or get a plant
[18:45] <TheLostAdmin> My walls are cinder blocks with a thin layer of plaster.
[18:45] <Chillum> or make fake legs for the tv!
[18:46] <TheLostAdmin> On the up side, my one attempt at wall mounting can support about 1000 lbs.
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[18:46] <Chillum> so unless Oprah comes on TV you should be fine
[18:47] <TheLostAdmin> Ya
[18:47] <irc_smirk> well thats the point. with chromecast i do my own programming
[18:47] <irc_smirk> i can have my youtube playlists playing all day
[18:47] <Chillum> I just use openelec
[18:47] <Chillum> and netflix, though I have watched most of that
[18:49] <traeak> how much decoding does the chromecast do?
[18:50] <irc_smirk> uh all of it?
[18:50] <irc_smirk> i dont know
[18:50] <traeak> i saw some acer or somethig like tha for 69usd at microcenter
[18:50] <irc_smirk> tv?
[18:50] <traeak> a 27" 1080p monitor for like 169 or so
[18:50] <traeak> nah :-p
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[19:18] <irc_smirk> this is more like it http://deluxecapacitor.com/projects/view/15
[19:18] <Anderson69s> hi all how are you? anyone having a sensor hat here?
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[19:19] <Anderson69s> because no problem to use it but the measures aren't good at all..
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[19:20] <Anderson69s> wondering if the cause is ine the library or in the hardware...
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[19:28] <TheLostAdmin> Anderson69s, I don't have one but given the price of the thing, I wasn't expecting very good accuracy.
[19:28] <snowkidind> i bought in to the hype
[19:28] <snowkidind> http://snowkidind.com/tmp/6.jpg
[19:28] <snowkidind> it’s bitty
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[19:30] <Anderson69s> theLostAdmin: me neither... But it looks like BMP085 and DHT11 have better accurency than what i see right now from the sense hat...
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[19:35] <gordonDrogon> Anderson69s, I have a sense hat. the 2 main temperature sensors are fine, but the whole board is affected by local heating.
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[19:37] <Anderson69s> gordonDrogon: you mean beacause sense_hat is close to BMC2836
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[19:37] <TheLostAdmin> Can you use a ribbon cable for the sense hat? It would be fun to make an old Star Trek style tri-corder out of a Pi, Sense-Hat, and touch-screen display (along with ample battery).
[19:37] <gordonDrogon> Anderson69s, yes.
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> also the LED display will cause a bit of heat too when it's turned up bright.
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[19:38] <gordonDrogon> the sense hat uses I2C for the most part.
[19:39] <TheLostAdmin> I'll take that as a "yes", gordonDrogon.
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[19:39] <gordonDrogon> ah, yes .. probably ... :)
[19:40] <gordonDrogon> SPI is used to program the atmega on-board.
[19:40] <Anderson69s> gordonDrogon: my main trouble is not the temperature i've already notice the 4°C because of bcm2836 and led... Pressure is more mess up for me...
[19:40] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I've not checked mine against another pressure gauge recently.
[19:41] <Anderson69s> 99900Pa for sense_hat, 98000 for BMP085 here in France
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[19:42] <gordonDrogon> I suppose I could boot mine up and check it against my phone..
[19:44] <Anderson69s> you're call, i can't oblige you
[19:44] <gordonDrogon> wonder where I left my phone..
[19:45] <Anderson69s> lol
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[19:46] <Swensson> gordonDrogon: Call it ;D
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> got t orebuild wiringPi on it .. takes a mo.
[19:48] <jonatan> anyone have any ideas why i2s output is downmixed to mono from rpi2b to my diy (dddac pcm1794) dac on airplay / spotify using volumio?
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> ok. phone says 1010mb, sense hat says 1011...
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[19:52] <gordonDrogon> the next version of wiringPi will support the sense hat (doesn't use rtimu)
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[19:55] <snowkidind> anyone compiled openCV on pi
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[19:55] <snowkidind> i have a b+ and its been a good hour and it looks to be at 33%
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> isn't it a standard package?
[19:56] <snowkidind> following instructions here: http://docs.opencv.org/master/d7/d9f/tutorial_linux_install.html#gsc.tab=0
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[19:57] <jancoow> pff steam is down..
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[19:58] <snowkidind> well it isnt stalled just creeping along
[20:00] <snowkidind> interesting - i just apt-cache search opencv on my ubuntu and it returned a bunch of stuff
[20:00] <Apocx> hm...I have an 3.3V arduino (or rather, an Atmega328p) hooked up to a Pi. I want the arduino to restart the Pi if it is halted (by shorting pin 5 to ground on the Pi). anyone know if I can do this with just the arduino (i.e. using an arduino pin to act as a "ground" input on demand) or will I need a transistor to act as a switch?
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[20:00] <gordonDrogon> Apocx, it can be done.
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[20:01] <Apocx> sans transistor?
[20:01] <snowkidind> pi’s gpio pins are 3.3v
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> I think so. that's how its done on the Gertduino.
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> the Gertduino can wake the pi.
[20:01] * gordonDrogon checks the code...
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[20:02] <Apocx> nice, looking at gertduino schematic now
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[20:03] <gordonDrogon> yes, on the m48 I just set the pins to output, take them low for 100mS then reset them back to I2C mode.
[20:04] <Apocx> awesome, thanks
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[20:06] <jonatan> turns out, a kernel update was inorder
[20:06] <gordonDrogon> I was never sure just how usefull that was - but I never measured the power draw of the Pi when in halt mode. it's not that low from what I recall.
[20:08] <ali1234> in full halt? less than 10mA in my tests
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[20:10] <Apocx> mostly in case I accidentally shutdown the Pi or something via SSH, the arduino will start it back up without me having to physically cycle power (will be in a remote location)
[20:11] <Saul775> What's the maximum amperage the GPIO can OUTPUT on the RP2?
[20:11] <Apocx> basically going to have heartbeat packets between the pi and arduino, arduino will startup the pi if no heartbeat, pi will reset arduino if no heartbeat, etc
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[20:12] <Swensson> Saul775 I use 9600 I think
[20:12] <heller_> how do you plan to keep arduino waking u p pi?
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[20:12] <gordonDrogon> Saul775, try to keep it under 10mA is possible.
[20:12] <Swensson> Saul775: Sorry I missread. I think it's 5/3.5v I got no clue about the amp
[20:13] <Saul775> I'm just wondering if I could power a sensor, or if I need an external power supply to run my sensor.
[20:13] <heller_> Saul775: whatn sensor?
[20:13] <gordonDrogon> Apocx, might want to use the 'run' pin on the Pi then - do a hard reset... also look at watchdog on the Pi - I'm told it works...
[20:13] <heller_> ah, its 16mA per pin
[20:13] <Saul775> That is� before I scope and buy one.
[20:13] <gordonDrogon> heller_, that's not technically correct, however ..
[20:14] <Saul775> I need an air pressure sensor that can measure 0 PSI to 120 PSI.
[20:14] <Apocx> didn't know there was a run pin. is that accessible via GPIO?
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> Apocx, no - it's a pad or empty pin somewhere on the board...
[20:14] <ali1234> it's on a different header that you have to solder in on A+, B+, 2 and zero
[20:14] <Apocx> ah
[20:14] <Apocx> I'm making a Pi HAT so trying to avoid things like that
[20:14] <ali1234> and yeah you can do this without a transistor
[20:14] <Saul775> Thanks, guys, you've been most helpful. :)
[20:15] <ali1234> in fact you don't even need a 3.3v arduino to do it
[20:15] <gordonDrogon> I've pulled enough current out of a GPIO pin to cause the Pi to reboot in the past - it's not recommended though...
[20:15] <ali1234> just switch the arduino pin between input mode and output low mode
[20:15] <Apocx> gotcha
[20:15] <ali1234> yeah don't do it by shorting vcc to ground or something, that would be bad
[20:15] <ali1234> neither the Pi nor the arduino will like that
[20:16] <Apocx> yeah
[20:16] <Apocx> I think using pin 5 on the GPIO will suffice for what I need
[20:16] <Apocx> run pins would be nice though
[20:17] <heller_> what sort of run pins?
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> on the original Pi's there is a gpio pin already shorted to ground ... it's possible to set that gpio to output and write 1 to it ... when I did it by accident the Pi rebooted and was undamaged, but I do not recommend trying it (I do this so you don't have to ;-)
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> heller_, it's a pin marked /RUN on the SoC - it's effectively the reset pin.
[20:17] <Apocx> :P
[20:17] <heller_> gordonDrogon: near the display port you mean?
[20:18] <gordonDrogon> heller_, not sure where it physically is - I'd need to look it up.
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[20:18] <heller_> im not sure if someone is asking for them or how they work, or something else
[20:18] <heller_> gordonDrogon: ei just looked
[20:18] <heller_> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Raspberry_Pi_2_Model_B_v1.1_top_new.jpg top lfet
[20:18] <heller_> left
[20:18] <heller_> short them = reboot
[20:20] <Apocx> and probably a good way to end up with a corrupted SD card I'd imagine :P
[20:20] <jancoow> why not take the easy way and place a relay or transistor in the micro usb cable ?
[20:20] <gordonDrogon> but if the Pi has crashed in such a way that the on-board watchdog won't work, then what more can you do?
[20:21] <ali1234> jancoow: because that's really not easy compared to asserting RUN
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[20:21] <ali1234> Apocx: what's this pin 5 you're talking about?
[20:21] <Apocx> as I said, this is mainly in case I accidentally issue a shutdown command while sshed into the pi. I'd like the arduino to automatically start it up again
[20:21] <Apocx> it wakes the Pi from a halt state
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[20:22] <ali1234> which pin is it though?
[20:22] <ali1234> don't say 5
[20:22] <Apocx> :P
[20:22] <heller_> Apocx: well if you do a software shutdown, that pin can wake you up again
[20:22] <_jamesl> I want to set up a time lapse project that takes a photo at 12:00 every day
[20:22] <heller_> jancoow: relay is not the right way
[20:22] <ali1234> 5 according to what numbering system?
[20:22] <_jamesl> What should the filenames for the pictures be?
[20:22] <Apocx> physical pin
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[20:22] <Apocx> looking up actual GPIO# one sec
[20:23] <ali1234> so brcm gpio 3?
[20:23] <Apocx> GPIO3
[20:23] <heller_> what is pin 5 ?
[20:23] <Apocx> SCL
[20:23] <_jamesl> There will be lots of them, so I need a format that can be parsed by a script
[20:23] <ali1234> hmm... and that wakes the system from a sleep?
[20:23] <Apocx> it causes the GPU to wake the CPU from a halt state as I recall
[20:23] <ali1234> i didn't know that
[20:23] <ali1234> RUN is still the right choice though
[20:24] <Apocx> or something like that anyway. I know it works because I use it on another project
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[20:24] <heller_> i've got pins 39 and 40 set up as shutdown pins :)
[20:24] <Apocx> right not arguing that, but I'm making a HAT board so trying to access RUN would be a bit problematic
[20:24] <heller_> when i short them = shutdown
[20:24] <Apocx> I'd have to put pin headers in it and make my HAT board slot into those as well
[20:24] <ali1234> the RUN pin isn't always in the same place either
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[20:24] <Apocx> yeah I had shutdown pins on my last project as well
[20:25] <ali1234> so that's pretty much out
[20:25] <Apocx> yep
[20:25] <Apocx> I mean I could always just solder wires to it and everything but eh
[20:25] <Apocx> I don't think I really need hard reset capabilities, just wake from halt
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[20:28] <_jamesl> If you power the arduino from the 3.3v pin (May be possible with only the atmega chip connected) you could put a transistor across the pins.
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[20:30] <_jamesl> Does Pi support wake on lan?
[20:31] <ali1234> almost certainly not
[20:31] <Swensson> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=39714 ?
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[20:38] <Apocx> hm, does it matter if I use an analog pin or digital pin in this case? as I only have analog pins free
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[20:38] <Apocx> I want to say it won't
[20:39] <_jamesl> Arch or raspbian for a pi 2 server that takes time lapse photos?
[20:39] <_jamesl> I'm relatively experienced with Linux
[20:39] <ebarch> _jamesl: whatever you prefer. they'll both work :)
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[20:40] <_jamesl> I'll choose raspbian then, and remove all the xorg packages.
[20:40] <ebarch> just grab jessie lite. it doesn't have any extra bloat
[20:40] <Swensson> I weren't even able to get arch for my pi 2...
[20:40] <ebarch> no X server installed
[20:41] <_jamesl> Okay.
[20:42] <ebarch> Swensson: http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/broadcom/raspberry-pi-2
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[20:43] <Swensson> ebarch: Thanks man! :D
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[20:43] <ebarch> np
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> Apocx, all analog pins on an ATmega can be used as digital outputs from what I recall.
[20:44] * Xark notes yes - except the two "extra" analog pins on SMD 328 (aka A6 and A7).
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[20:46] <netsrot> is epiphany meant to run outside X?
[20:47] <Apocx> gordonDrogon: Yeah they can I looked it up. Thanks :)
[20:47] <Apocx> and I had a nice free analog pin right near GPIO3 on my PI
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[20:53] <Swensson> Anyone got some experience with gpiod and wired xbox controller /xboxdrv?
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[20:54] <Swensson> pigpiod and xboxdrv *
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[20:59] <netsrot> has anyone got espeak working properly on a rpi? the sound is getting cut off for me.
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[21:25] <dyce> i hope the next pi will have sata + gigabit ethernet
[21:25] <dyce> http://www.amazon.com/pcDuino-pcDuino3-Nano-Lite/dp/B00ZEPZGQO/?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=ur2&tag=cnxtra-20&linkId=WA7WVY3CRNXQVIUN
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[21:27] <Apocx> boards like that always seem great until I actually use them
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[21:28] <Apocx> I like RPI because of the great support/documentation/drivers/etc.
[21:28] <Apocx> I used a Radxa board once. It was a nightmare
[21:29] <jonatan1> what about orange pis
[21:30] <Apocx> Haven't tried one yet, they seem popular though. Along with Banana Pis and Odroids
[21:30] <jonatan1> yeah
[21:30] <jonatan1> mainline support is close imo
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[21:33] <jasabella> hi :) where can i find the highest safe overclock settings for the pi2? :)
[21:34] <Xark> jasabella: If you want safe, just enable overclocking in "raspi-config"
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[21:37] <netsrot> there seems to be 2 versions of epiphany when I use apt-cache show epiphany-browser. How do I select which version to install?
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[21:42] <Chillum> netsrot: I use "festival" or the lighter weight version "flite". It sounds like Stephen Hawking. Never used espeak, is it more human sounding
[21:42] <Chillum> festival makes the pi a/b lag but flite keeps up no problem on even the slowed pi
[21:43] <Chillum> s/slowed/slowest/
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[21:44] <netsrot> Chillum: isn't it very hard to use and install flite?
[21:44] <Chillum> not really
[21:44] <Chillum> I just compiled it
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[21:44] <netsrot> on the rpi? or does it require Xcompile setup?
[21:45] <netsrot> is that the new gnu project for speach thiny?
[21:45] <jasabella> is the minimum 16MiB gpu_mem sufficient for headless?
[21:45] <Chillum> I just installed: apt-get install build-essential
[21:45] <Chillum> then I just ran "make"
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[21:46] <Chillum> it is a stripped down version of festival, which is a very old tool
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[21:46] <netsrot> Chillum: thanks, I'll give it a try.
[21:47] <Chillum> let me know if you have any difficulty. I make have had in install other pre-reqs but I remember it was not that hard
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[21:50] <Chillum> netsrot: I set it up to run this script at boot: http://pastebin.com/DWRtvMYt
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[21:50] <Chillum> then all you have to do is: echo "Hello I am a computer" > /tmp/speak.pipe
[21:51] <Chillum> that way your programs can send things to be said without blocking, and it prevents more than one program from speaking at once
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[21:52] <Chillum> you can use the last modified date of /tmp/talking to see if it has recently spoken
[21:53] <Chillum> err to see if it is currently speaking that is
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[22:02] <netsrot> Chillum: I tried installing flite from raspbian jessie and I'm getting cut off before the end of the text file.
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[22:04] <Chillum> I don't think there are any flite packages for raspberry, which is why I compiled
[22:04] <Chillum> what text file?
[22:04] <Chillum> raspbian that is
[22:05] <netsrot> Chillum: there was one because I got it installed with apt-get install flite
[22:05] <Chillum> nice
[22:06] <Chillum> what do you mean cut off? Is it just reading part of the text file?
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[22:07] <netsrot> Chillum: the text file was: test\ntest2n\test3\ntest4\ntest 3 words\n
[22:08] <netsrot> where \n is line break.
[22:09] <netsrot> Chillum: it gets cut off at 3\nte
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[22:09] <Chillum> what command line are you using?
[22:10] <netsrot> Chillum: should we take this in private since it's a lot to post?
[22:10] <Chillum> sure, pm me
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[23:17] <rikrikrik_> pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.ipv4.nat -bash: /etc/iptables.ipv4.nat: Permission denied
[23:17] <rikrikrik_> why wont that work :(
[23:19] <at0m> rikrikrik_: cos of the redirect. sudo su then iptables-save > /etc/iptables.ipv4.nat
[23:20] <rikrikrik_> pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo su then iptables-save > /etc/iptables.ipv4.nat -bash: /etc/iptables.ipv4.nat: Permission denied
[23:20] <rikrikrik_> that didnt work eitrher
[23:20] <rikrikrik_> i feel pretty stupid today
[23:20] <rikrikrik_> i havnt done ip stuff in 15 years
[23:20] <at0m> rikrikrik_: "sudo su" then, as root, "iptables-save > /etc/iptables.ipv4.nat"
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[23:21] <rikrikrik_> that is amazing
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[23:22] <at0m> the "sudo" doesn't carry over the ">"
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[23:25] <jasabella> sudo su seems a bit redundant, there's sudo -i and su
[23:25] <jasabella> (assuming you want root)
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[23:38] <r_02> What would a 1x2 through board (2-pin) head be called?
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[23:38] <r_02> The rpi has a 40 pin gpio connector, I need a 2 pin one but don't know what to call it
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[23:39] <r_02> http://modtronix.com/images/detailed/1/hdr1x2-m254-30.jpg
[23:40] <r_02> Trying to find one so that I can add a reset button to my PI
[23:40] <rikrikrik_> its a 40 pin gpio connector that you snip off
[23:41] <r_02> so buy the 40 from adafruit and trim?
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[23:44] <r_02> https://www.adafruit.com/images/1200x900/2671-00.jpg
[23:44] <r_02> far more then i would ever need with my current knowledge
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[23:46] <r_02> or maybe this
[23:46] <r_02> http://site.gravitech.us/Components/BUTT-2/BUTT-2_2.jpg
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[23:46] <r_02> its a reset button so its only purpose would be press/release
[23:46] <r_02> wouldnt need pins unless i wanted to extend the button
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[23:48] <msev-> anyone of you guys running openhab on the pi zero? :D
[23:48] <msev-> anyone with a pi zero willing to test if it can handle it? :D
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