#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-12-24

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[0:07] <Ispira> woo i get to be really dangerous today guys
[0:07] <Ispira> playing with mains voltage and usb cables >:F
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[0:19] <Berg> cool
[0:20] <Berg> make sure the power is off before changes or what ever
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[0:28] <Ispira> im making a shitton of safety preparations
[0:28] <Ispira> i need a multimeter tbh
[0:29] <Ispira> but that's money I don't have! why do you think I'm sending mains over a usb cable?! >:D
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[0:30] <Ispira> best thingI ever heard is "If you don't know what tool you need, you don't need a tool, if you do know what tool you need, it's probably too late to have it."
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[0:31] <Berg> lick it
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[0:33] <Ispira> two things I'm buying when I get some money though
[0:33] <Ispira> 1: Soldering iron
[0:33] <Ispira> 2: Multimeter
[0:33] <Ispira> I work with too many bits of electronic stuff not to have those two things
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[0:51] <JakeSays> hey anyone here messed with adafruit's 2.8" pitft hat?
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[1:50] <ScottO_> with windows 10 on raspberry pi, does that mean there will eventually be openGL support?
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[1:52] <brianx> isn't the win10 software for the 2b text mode only?
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[1:53] <netsrot> I think you connect to it using web gui
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[1:55] <alphis> anyone know how to get audio through the 3.5mm while using hdmi for video on the rpi2?
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[1:57] <Xark> alphis: I believe there is a "both" option in raspi-config
[1:57] <Ispira> ScottO_: windows 10 IoT is not normal windows
[1:57] <brianx> hml is text.
[1:57] <brianx> html even
[1:57] <ScottO_> booo
[1:57] <ScottO_> i want opengl
[1:57] <Ispira> ScottO_: it's a normal text shell meant for running the brains behind stuff
[1:57] <Ispira> like robots/etc
[1:57] <ScottO_> opengls sucks
[1:58] <Ispira> On a side note
[1:58] <ScottO_> the s stands for sucks
[1:58] <Ispira> Soldering irons are REALLY cheap tbh
[1:58] <ScottO_> i want my stepmania on raspberry pi
[1:59] <netsrot> alphis: did you want a different source then the video go through the 3.5mm?
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[2:00] <ScottO_> is there a small computer similar to raspberry pi that supports opengl?
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[2:02] <Ispira> beagleboard.org might ScottO_
[2:02] <Xark> ScottO_: Perhaps http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/01/02/3d-graphics-acceleration-in-linux-on-allwinner-a80-based-cubieboard4/
[2:02] <ScottO_> and to correct myself, OpenGL ES is what sucks
[2:02] <ScottO_> :P
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[2:03] <Xark> ScottO_: Actually, reading that last link in context, sounds like Nvidia Tegra K1 SoC may be the only option (or maybe newer TX1 and TK1?)
[2:04] <ScottO_> either that or someone needs to finish the openGLES port of stepmania
[2:04] <ScottO_> :P
[2:04] <Ispira> you go do it
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[2:06] <ScottO_> im no good at it
[2:06] <ScottO_> Ispira: http://dancewithyourhands.blogspot.com/2011/04/beagleboard-not-fast-enough-for-ubuntu.html
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[2:07] <Ispira> that's from 2011
[2:07] <Ispira> and i assume the original board
[2:07] <Ispira> they have multiple boards
[2:08] <Ispira> just peruse their offerings.
[2:08] <alphis> netsrot: i want the audio to go thru my headphones but the video to go thru hdmi
[2:08] <netsrot> alphis: are you using omxplayer for video? and which OS?
[2:09] <ScottO_> Ispira: all they mention is 3D graphics accelerator, no more details for the black
[2:09] <Ispira> alright, look into details
[2:09] <Ispira> lol
[2:09] <Ispira> im not a wiki for them i just know they exist
[2:09] <ScottO_> yeah im saying they offer no more details
[2:09] <Ispira> official rpi site says very little able to the videocore iv
[2:09] <Ispira> but you can find details
[2:09] <Ispira> im not going to google for you :P
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[2:10] <netsrot> alphis: if you are using omxplayer you can use "omxplayer -o hdmi videoname.avi" and "amixer cset numid=3 1" to set the rest to 3.5mm
[2:11] <ScottO_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGPNG5Th-yE
[2:11] <ScottO_> warning LOAD
[2:11] <ScottO_> LOUD
[2:13] <netsrot> alphis: oh you don't want hdmi audio at all? then it's just "omxplayer -o local videoname.avi"
[2:13] <alphis> netsrot: im using a game emulator
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[2:13] <ScottO_> looks like it exists https://github.com/meveric/stepmania-gles2 but doesnt appear finishd or active
[2:13] <alphis> i guess i could just plug this thing into a television
[2:13] <netsrot> alphis: did anything of what I said help?
[2:14] <alphis> no because im not using that very specific program
[2:14] <alphis> i want a random program to produce video over hdmi and audio over 3.5mm
[2:14] * derk0pf|NA is now known as derk0pf
[2:15] <netsrot> alphis: whats missing on your current setup? is the video not over the hdmi or is the audio not over 3.5mm?
[2:16] <pksato> alphis: try this: sudo amixer cset numid=3 1
[2:17] <pksato> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/audio-config.md
[2:17] <alphis> video is working perfectly
[2:17] <alphis> i just want audio over 3.5mm
[2:17] <alphis> because its currently, i'd imagine, going over hdmi
[2:18] <alphis> i am using a monitor not a TV. my monitor doesn't have speakers
[2:18] <Xark> alphis: You have right cable?
[2:18] <alphis> ..
[2:18] <Ispira> man
[2:18] <Ispira> a good multimeter is going to run me more than a good soldering station
[2:19] <Xark> alphis: Did you alter setting using raspi-config yet?
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[2:58] * LikeVinyl is away: aunque no lo veamos, el pelado siempre est�...
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[3:06] <netsrot> whats the best uptime anyone got with a rpi?
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[3:13] <shooj> hmm, i have aide's db on a usb stick, but i want to run a cron job daily of aide... choices
[3:13] <shooj> 2 days and counting lol
[3:14] <shooj> i edit a lot of settings, so i'm constantly rebooting
[3:14] <shooj> i tinker too much
[3:17] <shooj> netsrot: why do you ask?
[3:18] <netsrot> thinking about if I could leave it on without it breaking for a longer time.
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[3:19] <netsrot> I wounder what would break first on it.
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[3:45] <JakeSays> netsrot: win10 iot is graphics only
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[3:46] <JakeSays> does raspbian support framebuffer out of the box? i want to use it instead of X
[3:47] <shooj> netsrot: there are no moving parts
[3:48] <shooj> that in and of itself is huge
[3:48] <shooj> if you're concerned about longetivity, you could always put some heatsinks on the hot points [2 or 3 depending on the version of pi]
[3:49] <shooj> other than that, not sure what's going to go wrong with it - more likely to have issues with the OS before the HW imo
[3:50] <JakeSays> i'd like to use adafruit's pitft hat w/o having to build a new kernel. not sure why that would be necessary
[3:50] <shooj> make sure you have good power draw
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[3:59] <netsrot> thanks shooj
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[5:00] <irc_smirk> hello
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[5:05] <irc_smirk> i got an extra pi zero to sell if anyone interested
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[5:11] <irc_smirk> $100 for a win 10 tablet http://www.geekbuying.com/item/CHUWI-Vi8-Plus-Windows10-2GB-32GB-8-Inch-Tablet-PC-Intel-Cherry-Trail-Z8300-Quad-Core-1-84GHz-IPS-1280-800-HDMI-Type-C---Black-360389.html?utm_source=shareasale
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[5:16] <NedScott> irc_smirk: I got a $60 Windows tablet once. I am shocked at how usable it is
[5:16] <NedScott> at least now that Windows 10 came out
[5:16] <NedScott> Windows 8 was suffering
[5:16] <irc_smirk> hows the battery life
[5:17] <irc_smirk> $60 wow
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[5:17] <NedScott> winbook tw700
[5:17] <NedScott> https://rcpmag.com/articles/2015/01/20/60-dollar-windows-81-tablet-review.aspx
[5:18] <NedScott> I don't really use it except for the rare time I need access to a Windows-specific application
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[5:20] <amigojapan> NedScott: is it arm or intell?
[5:20] <NedScott> Intel
[5:20] <amigojapan> ah ok
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[5:21] <amigojapan> problem with arm stuff is that hte binaries are not compatible, so you wont be able to run any normal windows software if it is arm
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[5:27] <shooj> rpi is usable
[5:30] <shooj> speaking of which, time to hit up that django
[5:32] <shooj> amigojapan, that's not a big deal imo
[5:33] <amigojapan> shooj: it is if you are actually looking to use a windows system, the only thing that makes windows attractive is all the software available for it
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[5:35] <amigojapan> shooj: the RPI is better with raspbian, there is no point in using windows 10
[5:37] <amigojapan> shooj: I was not really talking about he RPI though, just other ARM windows 10 systems.... but I guess it applies to an RPI if you decide to use windows 10
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[5:48] <shooj> windows 10 is really nice from a gui standpoint
[5:48] <shooj> but i like linux for everything else
[5:48] <shooj> well..and you're right..games
[5:49] <shooj> but i understand... that's why i stayed away from the windows rt systems
[5:49] <shooj> otherwise, great price, but poor ecosystem - i understand you now
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[6:00] <irc_smirk> hello
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[6:02] <irc_smirk> anyone using pi with win10
[6:05] <snowkidind> nope
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[6:09] <warpie> nope.... just Ubuntu 15.10
[6:11] <H__> never
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[6:13] <irc_smirk> wow i didnt know you can run android on pi 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSgQDhM84Ko
[6:21] <H__> or FreeBSD
[6:26] <Kamilion> irc_smirk: I find the ram's more the limiting factor in most cases. I've used the old win10 IoT preview image.
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[6:27] <Kamilion> irc_smirk: Did you require any specific information?
[6:27] <irc_smirk> not really i thought ut would have a desktop
[6:27] <irc_smirk> it
[6:27] <Kamilion> no, but you can deploy graphical applications to it using visual studio.
[6:28] <Kamilion> and I've gotten a basic unity3d UI demo to work using the Windows Universal builder
[6:29] <Kamilion> performance was somewhat below what I expected, so i moved on
[6:30] <Kamilion> most recently, been goofing off with the lxqt packages that just hit ubuntu 16.04's main repos
[6:31] <Kamilion> some stuff breaks when i try to change resolutions, but it works pretty good
[6:32] <irc_smirk> oh unity works?
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[7:36] <warpie> yup
[7:36] <warpie> it works
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[7:53] <sedition> as good as unity is going to get anyway
[7:55] <warpie> Unity rules...
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[7:56] <warpie> been around for a real long time
[7:56] <sedition> it's just not for me. glad you enjoy it :)
[7:56] <warpie> I do...
[7:57] <warpie> it's just another OS....
[7:58] <warpie> ever tried Angstrom??? lol
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[8:15] <swift110-phone> Hey
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[8:34] <shooj> unity webgl is teetertottering
[8:36] <shooj> with all browsers pretty much killing off npapi
[8:36] <shooj> java-canvas-script
[8:36] <shooj> don't call it html 5 nooooooo
[8:37] <shooj> you keep your buzzwords
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[8:51] <swift110-phone> Hey guys
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[9:45] <warpie> syug yeH
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[9:48] <warpie> joohs sdrowzzub ym peek lliw I
[9:49] <warpie> uoy knaht
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[9:57] <DoctorD90> Happy Xmas to all :D gordonDrogon t3chguy ShorTie SpeedEvil :)
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[9:59] <warpie> 09DrotcoD ,oot uoY
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[10:01] <Keanu73> Merry Christmas everyone!
[10:01] <DoctorD90> :)
[10:02] <warpie> 37unaeK ,oot uoY
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[10:28] <swift110-phone> Hey warpie
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[10:39] <jamaba> hello
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[10:42] <jamaba> what is allwiner
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[10:43] <Xark> jamaba: Chinese ARM chip maker (with inexpensive chips).
[10:43] <jamaba> funny name
[10:44] <pigrit> what ho ladies
[10:45] <Xark> jamaba: They have chips like A23 A33, but don't confuse with Apple Ax chips. :)
[10:45] <jamaba> is it good quality
[10:45] <Xark> jamaba: It is inexpensive. :)
[10:45] <Xark> jamaba: Seen in cheap tables and cheap Raspberry Pi clones. :)
[10:45] <Xark> tablets*
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[10:46] <Xark> However, it mostly works (but is not well documented).
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[10:51] <swift110-phone> Hmm
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[11:13] <r_02> If anyone here atm, I am having a problem while trying to run hostadp on my pi. You can see the post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/3y2frt/raspberry_pi_hostapd_dnsmasq_issues/
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[11:42] <warpie> what does hostadp do and what purpose?
[11:42] <r_02> its so you can make a AP out of the PI
[11:42] <Xark> r_02: Depends on the WiFi dongle, but yes with the right one.
[11:43] <r_02> Suppose to be able to hook pi to eth0 which is where it would get its connection to the WWW and ppl conect to the PI through its wifi dongle to connect to the internet
[11:43] <r_02> the WiFi dongle I have supports AP
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[11:44] <r_02> iw list
[11:44] <r_02> Supported interface modes:
[11:44] <r_02> * IBSS
[11:44] <r_02> * managed
[11:44] <r_02> * AP
[11:44] <r_02> * AP/VLAN
[11:44] <r_02> * WDS
[11:44] <r_02> * monitor
[11:44] <r_02> * mesh point
[11:45] <r_02> If you read the post. You can see I can connect to the PI but only when I static set the IP on the device being connected to the PI
[11:45] <r_02> also DNS probe fails when trying to connect to a site.
[11:46] <deshipu> r_02: right, that's because there is no dhcp server running on your pi that would give out ip addresses and such
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[11:46] <r_02> ● dnsmasq.service - dnsmasq - A lightweight DHCP and caching DNS server
[11:47] <r_02> that is also running on the PI
[11:47] <deshipu> maybe you didn't configure it properly
[11:47] <r_02> Well I think that is why I just cannot figure out where.
[11:48] <r_02> Dec 24 08:31:59 raspberrypi dnsmasq-dhcp[476]: DHCP, IP range 10.0.0.2 -- 10.0.0.5, lease time 12h
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[11:50] <apjoshi> Hello! Friends
[11:51] <warpie> so, in other words, you using the pi to do what a modem or router does?
[11:51] <apjoshi> any one from India
[11:51] <warpie> yeh, a lot of ppl are in India...
[11:52] <r_02> yes
[11:52] <apjoshi> what are you doing with your raspberry pi?
[11:52] <apjoshi> great...
[11:53] <r_02> https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/3y2frt/raspberry_pi_hostapd_dnsmasq_issues/
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[12:24] <chesty> r_02: grep dnsmasq /var/log/syslog
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[12:41] <Davespice> Merry Christmas everyone!
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[12:42] <D34dMan> Merry Xmas \o/
[12:42] <D34dMan> how can i "create" a img file from my current SD card?
[12:43] <D34dMan> i want to try another OS, but i don't want to lose current one.
[12:43] <DoctorD90> you too Davespice :D D34dMan
[12:43] <D34dMan> am on mac
[12:43] <D34dMan> lemme check if i can download it
[12:43] <DoctorD90> D34dMan you may create a clone of your sd :)
[12:43] <D34dMan> DoctorD90: lemme google those wise words :)
[12:44] <DoctorD90> nhaa
[12:44] <DoctorD90> wait :)
[12:44] <DoctorD90> it's xmas :)
[12:44] <DoctorD90> i will help you :)
[12:44] <DoctorD90> i dont fully remember what is the command to list attached devices
[12:44] <D34dMan> i was typing exactly what i typed here earlier and all i got was how to write an image TO SD ( google's utter disregard for gramma makes me unhappy sometimes)
[12:44] <DoctorD90> diskutil list maybe
[12:44] <D34dMan> lemme try diskutil ls
[12:45] <DoctorD90> then find out your SD connected to your mac
[12:45] <D34dMan> DoctorD90: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/311/how-do-i-backup-my-raspberry-pi \o/
[12:45] <D34dMan> thanks for those words
[12:45] <DoctorD90> next step will be this: clone your sd to your hdd...and to do this you have to be very careully
[12:45] <D34dMan> right words in google makes the difference
[12:46] <D34dMan> now like you said, i need to find the SD card location/name
[12:46] <DoctorD90> dd if=/dev/youdevice of=/path/to/where/save/your/backup.iso
[12:46] <D34dMan> diskutil doesn't exists, but there should be some way to find it
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[12:46] <DoctorD90> D34dMan diskUtil
[12:46] <DoctorD90> or try autocompletion
[12:46] <DoctorD90> disk-Tab->
[12:46] <D34dMan> oh diskUtil has
[12:47] <DoctorD90> lol...i remember well ;P
[12:47] <DoctorD90> then....
[12:47] <DoctorD90> stay carefull about if and of
[12:47] <DoctorD90> If is INPUT (your sd card), where read
[12:47] <DoctorD90> Of is OUTPUT, where it has to write
[12:48] <D34dMan> ok i guess i found the disk
[12:48] <DoctorD90> i suggest you this little trick=
[12:48] <DoctorD90> dd if=/dev/disk... of=
[12:48] <DoctorD90> create a file named backup.iso somewhere on your pc, then, drag and drop the file in termnal
[12:49] <DoctorD90> so you will be safe about not write your hard disk ;)
[12:49] <D34dMan> http://pastebin.com/LJFrJGgy
[12:50] <D34dMan> i think its /dev/disk4
[12:50] <D34dMan> :3
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[12:50] <DoctorD90> sure :)
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[12:50] <DoctorD90> so run: dd if=/dev/disk4 of=/path/to/backup.iso
[12:51] <DoctorD90> and drag & drop file from Finder to temrinal ;)
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[12:53] <D34dMan> DoctorD90: should it be iso or img?
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[12:54] <DoctorD90> D34dMan it is the same :P just create a file and name it backup.is
[12:54] <DoctorD90> iso*
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[12:54] <DoctorD90> with dd hasnt so many importance
[12:55] <D34dMan> ok created a file named 20151222_rasbian.iso
[12:55] <D34dMan> dd is doing its job i guess
[12:55] <D34dMan> thanks DoctorD90 :)
[12:55] <D34dMan> DoctorD90++
[12:55] <D34dMan> i want to try Jasper :)
[12:56] <DoctorD90> D34dMan now you have only to wait :)
[12:56] <D34dMan> yeah, i will start cooking something :)
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[12:56] <DoctorD90> dd is a great tool. it is just a very dangerous tool
[12:57] <D34dMan> :P
[12:57] <DoctorD90> to save my life, i remeber I-f (input) and O-f(output) XD
[12:57] <D34dMan> i for in and o for out
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[12:57] <D34dMan> i used dd to burn
[12:59] <DoctorD90> yea :D it is the same :D it not burn on a file on a disk, but on a device :D
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[13:00] <nemesit|znc> anyone know some good info material about electronics?
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[13:02] <DoctorD90> me not
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[13:13] * ShorTie Thinkz, Google
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[13:15] <knob> Good morning all!
[13:15] <knob> Last night I installed retroPie... pretty nifty!! Although I am not into games, I really liked how polished to product is.
[13:16] <knob> Everything was very nicely layed out.
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[13:18] <H__> looking at that is still on my todo list ;-)
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[13:25] <dudi879> Hi folks, are the packages names the same in Raspbian and Debian? I'm asking because I want to use my config script for Debian in RPi
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[13:26] <knob> H__, it was pretty easy to do... ROMs are easy to come by. And again, the interface is super slick. Color me impressed. Here is where I downloaded the image: http://blog.petrockblock.com/retropie/retropie-downloads/retropie-sd-card-image-for-raspberry-pi-2-2/
[13:28] <D34dMan> nemesit|znc: what info are you looking for?
[13:28] <nemesit|znc> dunno anything
[13:28] <D34dMan> nemesit|znc: what do you want to know?
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[13:29] <nemesit|znc> what to measure what to connect and how, how not to damage the pi etc
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[13:29] <D34dMan> well its inevitable, you destroy them and learn
[13:30] <D34dMan> electronics is like that, there is no cntrl+z
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[13:30] <D34dMan> try to learn electronics, by Not using pi
[13:31] <D34dMan> take a breadboard and make some rudimentary ckts
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[13:32] <D34dMan> http://www.instructables.com/id/Basic-Electronics/ looks like a good point to start with
[13:33] <nemesit|znc> k
[13:34] <D34dMan> ckts = ciruits
[13:34] <D34dMan> if you are impatient, then you can buy some hats for pi
[13:36] <DoctorD90> guys, differences between normal and lite version of rasbian?
[13:38] <ShorTie> gui stuff
[13:38] <EvilDMP-> which is faster for storage on a Raspberry Pi, a USB flash drive or an SD card?
[13:39] <DoctorD90> EvilDMP-, rpi has only 1 slot for sd= system sd. so it depends form bus speed of usb :)
[13:39] <DoctorD90> nd this i dont know :P
[13:40] <DoctorD90> ShorTie, what are differences?
[13:41] <knob> DoctorD90, GUI - windows. Lite - command line
[13:41] <ShorTie> lite just doesn't have the gui stuff i do believe
[13:41] <D34dMan> well SD card comes in various speed too. so you have to take the class of SD card into account
[13:41] <DoctorD90> ah! "gui" in that meaning! ah ok :D great :) thx!
[13:41] <D34dMan> ShorTie: yeah lite doesn't come with X-server
[13:42] <D34dMan> but you can install it with apt-get none the less
[13:42] <D34dMan> i use my pi via ssh, so i guess lite was enough for me
[13:42] <ShorTie> lite is pulled out of spindle like at step 3 of 5
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[14:02] <_jamesl> Any digital temp sensors that work with the pi that aren't the ds18b20?
[14:05] <deshipu> dht22?
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[14:43] <SpeedEvil> DoctorD90: :)
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[14:45] <DoctorD90> ^_^
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[14:45] <DoctorD90> im downloading latest jessie.....and then i will be ready to update my systems :D
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[15:04] <AlexC_> Morning
[15:05] <AlexC_> I've got a Pi and 4x3 keypad which attaches to GPIO and trying to get a little Python script up and running to detect which key was pressed. This seems rather simple to me, though unsure why most of what I read says to set columns to outputs and rows to inputs?
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[15:06] <canton7> AlexC_, are you aware of how most of those little keypads work?
[15:08] <AlexC_> canton7: Not really, no
[15:08] <pksato> AlexC_: keypad similar to telephone keypad?
[15:08] <canton7> AlexC_, go look it up - someone will have made a pretty diagram somewhere
[15:08] <AlexC_> Just a little flexible membrane keypad
[15:08] <AlexC_> canton7: Oh you mean how the pins are wired?
[15:08] <canton7> basically, pressing a button shorts together the column and the row for that key
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[15:09] <canton7> ... so you have to cycle through the rows, and for each row see which column (if any) it's been shorted to
[15:09] <AlexC_> canton7: Yes, so surely as the rows + columns are on different pins I should be able to set every single pin as an input and check that GPIO 3 and 5 (made up) are high and from that I can work out which key (as I have the X/Y of the keypad, basically)
[15:10] <pksato> http://www.instructables.com/id/Using-a-keypad-with-Raspberry-Pi/
[15:10] <canton7> AlexC_, ok, so say you set everything to an input. what do you expect to happen when someone presses a key?
[15:11] <pksato> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=36723
[15:11] <AlexC_> canton7: I'd assume that 2 of the GPIOs would go high (one for the row, one for the colum)
[15:11] <canton7> ... it's a similar question to: say you have a button, which when pushed creates a connection between the two pins. you set both pins to be inputs. what happens when someone presses the button?
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[15:11] <canton7> AlexC_, see, you're misunderstanding how the keypads are wired up inside.
[15:12] <AlexC_> canton7: I think I am :)
[15:12] <canton7> think about my button question
[15:13] <AlexC_> I keep going back to two GPIOs going high =\
[15:13] <canton7> again, think about a single button. there's no power connected two it: there are simply two wires going into it, and when you press the button it connects both of those wires together
[15:14] <AlexC_> Well you'd have a single wire
[15:14] <canton7> if you attach both of those wires to input pins, and press the button... you'll connect the two input pins together. neither of those inputs is outputting a high or low voltage, so the other input won't see anything
[15:15] <canton7> are you expecting a high voltage? where did the high voltage come from?
[15:15] <AlexC_> I see the problem now
[15:16] <AlexC_> There is essentially no juice flowing around anywhere because of how I'm configuring it
[15:16] <canton7> yep
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[15:17] <AlexC_> Ok, that is making more sense now ... thank you
[15:17] <canton7> :)
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[15:43] <Tuchkata> does anyone knows
[15:43] <pigrit> sometimes
[15:43] <Tuchkata> when will Pi Zero be available in UK
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[15:44] <Tuchkata> I missed the last chance last week :/
[15:44] <Tuchkata> and don't know when it will be available again
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[15:45] <AiGreek> i saw 'end january'
[15:46] <Tuchkata> ouch
[15:46] <Tuchkata> :/
[15:47] <AiGreek> But it does not stop changing... sometimes it's "end December" then "End January" or "Meh, don't know" so ...
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[15:47] <Tuchkata> yeah, I just gonna wait
[15:47] <Tuchkata> hopefully it will be "mid January"
[15:48] <warpie> or next Jan
[15:48] <Tuchkata> :D
[15:48] <Tuchkata> haha
[15:48] <warpie> lol
[15:49] <warpie> hopefully by next Jan they'd have the pi altimanium.... 16 core, 8 gb mem...
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[15:50] <AiGreek> for £5 ? :D
[15:50] <Tuchkata> :D
[15:50] <Tuchkata> for 10
[15:50] <Tuchkata> haha
[15:50] <D34dMan> DoctorD90: 15980298240 bytes transferred in 3221.635850 secs (4960306 bytes/sec) :) thanks
[15:50] <DoctorD90> D34dMan, ^^happyto be of help :)
[15:50] <D34dMan> now jasper here i come!
[15:50] <DoctorD90> but what is jasper? 0o
[15:50] <swift110-phone> Lol
[15:51] <AiGreek> D34dMan Good luck with Jasper
[15:51] <D34dMan> thanks AiGreek, its like future DoctorD90
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[15:51] <D34dMan> you can talk to computer :)
[15:51] <DoctorD90> ....lol
[15:51] <D34dMan> plus make it do things
[15:51] <DoctorD90> i go to search for it
[15:51] <Tuchkata> https://jasperproject.github.io/
[15:51] <Tuchkata> jasper?
[15:51] <warpie> maybe that's the code name for next pi
[15:51] <D34dMan> yes :)
[15:51] <D34dMan> that project
[15:52] <Tuchkata> nice
[15:52] <D34dMan> i tried the manual installation, but its not working out :/
[15:52] <D34dMan> and am using a custom mic (a cheap one i bought from nearby store and soldered it to a 3.5mm pin :P )
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[15:53] <warpie> prolly need pre amp
[15:53] <DoctorD90> cool....but i dont like this kind of stuff :P
[15:54] <warpie> mics only put out micro volts
[15:54] <warpie> too small for pi to pick up
[15:55] <warpie> or pico volts... needs a preamp
[15:55] <D34dMan> warpie: oh i forgot to mention i got a usb card for that.
[15:56] <warpie> hook mic to volt meter and yell into mic...
[15:56] * AiGreek just uses a web interface. He hates talking to himself to his house :x
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[15:56] <pigrit> if you figure out a setup to make it hear clear audio do tell
[15:56] <warpie> awww, poor puppie
[15:57] <D34dMan> normal adc wont work in mic, if you want clarity. because of the wide dB rage. we need a logarthmic scale for audio
[15:57] <D34dMan> linear adc will just crackle
[15:58] <D34dMan> AiGreek: i am going to hook up jasper with a chatbot
[15:58] <TheLostAdmin> What do I need to make the light sabre noise? I heard that came from some sort of broken audio equipment.
[15:58] <D34dMan> and put it in some channel for training ai.. maybe i can talk to it and get interesting replies
[15:59] <D34dMan> broken audio equipment usually create that pink noise i believe, its different from the distinct "hum" of saber
[15:59] <D34dMan> normal electrical hum is too low to be confused with saber
[15:59] <D34dMan> :3
[15:59] <D34dMan> sorry :(
[15:59] <TheLostAdmin> I didn't say I heard it from a reliable source.
[15:59] <warpie> no, man, you are correct
[16:00] <D34dMan> depends upon ears i guess :D
[16:01] <warpie> true
[16:01] <warpie> I can't hear, so I will never know...
[16:02] <D34dMan> TheLostAdmin: there is your reliable source (points at warpie). He speaks the truth
[16:03] <D34dMan> star wars yet to be released in India :(
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[16:11] <warpie> well don't stop... keep chatting...
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[16:14] <TheLostAdmin> I keep thinking about getting the Pi Display but I would need to totally re-think my case at that point.
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[16:16] <abnormal> oh?
[16:16] <abnormal> can always go dumpster diving and look for a dead lappy and use the display on that
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[16:23] <RavenII> What was the thing someone suggested to me about changing HDMI to 720x480?
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[16:23] <RavenII> it was a command...
[16:23] <abnormal> in terminal key in raspi-config
[16:24] <D34dMan> abnormal: wait do you know how to do that?
[16:24] <RavenII> xrandr, that's what it was.
[16:24] <D34dMan> i have a dead lap
[16:24] <D34dMan> i have a dead laptop
[16:25] <abnormal> lol
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[16:25] <abnormal> caught your attention, eh?
[16:25] <D34dMan> i am afraid if i open it, i won't be able to put it all back in again
[16:25] <abnormal> lol
[16:26] <D34dMan> glad am not a car mechanic :D
[16:26] <abnormal> usually have to get the converter board so pi can see the signals
[16:26] <abnormal> I don't know how to do it but ppl have done it...
[16:27] <D34dMan> hmm a $400 laptop being scavanged :D
[16:28] <D34dMan> i have to take a look at this seriously
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[16:29] <abnormal> yes... some converter kits run about $23
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[16:34] <RavenII> So I've got this radio...that I'm trying to hook up a Raspi0 to...the most I've gotten is a black screen. However, when I connect my PC Stick to it, it works fine and windows autoswitches to 720x480
[16:34] <RavenII> Anyone know if there's a way to force 720x480?
[16:35] <abnormal> in the pi?
[16:36] <RavenII> Yeah.
[16:36] <RavenII> Using HDMI
[16:36] <abnormal> did you try in terminal raspi-config?????
[16:38] <mlelstv> 720x480 seems to be no standard format
[16:42] <MiningInc> Can you use PoE to power the raspberry pi2?
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[16:43] <abnormal> what is that?
[16:43] <mlelstv> sort of
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[16:44] <Encrypt> MiningInc, Nope
[16:44] <mlelstv> there are adapters
[16:44] <Encrypt> MiningInc, But there are shields to do that
[16:44] <TheLostAdmin> I don't believe the ethernet port on the Pi supports PoE (Power over Ethernet).
[16:44] <mlelstv> it doesn't
[16:45] <TheLostAdmin> You would need something that splits the power out so you can route it to the USB port.
[16:45] <Encrypt> MiningInc, http://www.xtronix.co.uk/raspberry-pi-poe.htm
[16:45] <MiningInc> gotcha, like a custom ethernet cable,, I.E> hacked cable
[16:45] <MiningInc> Excellent, thanks guys.
[16:45] <mlelstv> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B007Y0L5I0/savagehomeaut-20
[16:46] <MiningInc> I finally got my first Raspberry pi. its a pi 2 as well. Excited.
[16:46] <TheLostAdmin> I'm also not sure if the voltage is right or if it would need a converter.
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[16:46] <MiningInc> TheLostAdmin. Very good point
[16:46] <mlelstv> it needs a converter, but there are "splitters" that already do that.
[16:47] <mlelstv> not necessarily cheap :-/
[16:47] <Encrypt> The voltage is NOT correct
[16:47] <MiningInc> I am not by any means a pro with electical. However I am a capable being.
[16:47] <abnormal> wow, one expensive toy
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[16:47] <Encrypt> And PoE doesn't simply send +Vcc on a few copper lines
[16:47] <MiningInc> yikes.. expensive indeed
[16:47] <Encrypt> There is a negociation of the power, etc
[16:47] <Encrypt> MiningInc, https://www.pi-supply.com/product/pi-poe-switch-hat-power-over-ethernet-for-raspberry-pi/?v=11aedd0e4327
[16:48] <mlelstv> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B003CFATQK/savagehomeaut-20
[16:48] <MiningInc> That is a much more viable solution, imo.
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[16:49] <MiningInc> second question, How long of a stretch could I go without needing some type of repeater/booster/relay for the power.
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[16:50] <TheLostAdmin> That depends on a lot of factors.
[16:50] <mlelstv> depends on what provides the power, but usually about 100m.
[16:50] <MiningInc> I am trying to figure out a way to power the pi, economically, when no ac/dc is available
[16:50] <MiningInc> ok. TheLostAdmin. I
[16:51] <TheLostAdmin> Use a big cell phone rechargable battery.
[16:51] <MiningInc> assume you're talking about things like interference, etc.
[16:51] <MiningInc> mlelstv thanks
[16:51] <TheLostAdmin> There are some tests with the big fat ones that show you can run a Pi for close to a day on them.
[16:51] <MiningInc> TheLostAdmin. hmm.. Hadn't thought about that
[16:51] <MiningInc> That would probably suffice... If I could go a day at a time especially.
[16:51] <TheLostAdmin> I've been thinking about doing something like that as a UPS for my Pi.
[16:52] <MiningInc> Merry Xmas too everyone. Thanks for all the help.
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[16:52] <MiningInc> I'm sure you get remedial questions like this constantly.. So you're patience is truly appreciated.
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[16:52] <TheLostAdmin> Merry Christmas to you too (and everyone else).
[16:53] <TheLostAdmin> I ask remedial questions too.
[16:53] <TheLostAdmin> I'm a server/software guy. Not an electronics/electrical guy.
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[16:55] <MiningInc> TheLostAdmin lol... True true. We all are smart, in our own practices. ;-P
[16:56] <RavenII> Ok, so the problem isn't the resolution...I got it down to 720x480, but still black screen
[16:56] <MiningInc> It really is nice to have these IRC channels, forums and such. Community support is pretty large for the pi too, so it seems to me anyway.
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[16:58] <MiningInc> Also, thanks for the amazon link to the gigabit PoE splitter. Someone had just told me in another channel that Amazon changed its loading/shipping bar to a candy cane for today/xmas...So that reminded me to check that out. lol
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[17:37] <Jamie96> Anyone know if berryboot will work on the Zero? Since the thing is going on a USB hub anyway I thought it would be better to use a 30MB SDcard and a USB stick rather than use up my spare 16GB on such a small-purpose device.
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[17:41] <RavenII> ok, so...a pi0 can't be used as a carputer
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[17:46] <mlelstv> what is a carputer?
[17:46] <Viper168> a computer in a car
[17:46] <Viper168> for media and whatever
[17:47] <mlelstv> the whatever part is ambitious :)
[17:48] <D34dMan> burnt jasper image to sd, pi is not responding
[17:48] <D34dMan> :(
[17:50] <Jamie96> Anyone know of an alternative boot loader that can be put on a tiny SD card(30MB) and just pass boot to a USB drive? I know of berryboot but it isn't working on Pi0
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[17:51] <mlelstv> 30MB? what's that? :)
[17:51] <pksato> Jamie96: normal boot sequency can do it.
[17:52] <mlelstv> normal bootloader and kernel is smaller than that.
[17:52] <mlelstv> if you put the kernel on the sd card, then everything else can be on USB
[17:52] <mlelstv> that's how I use it
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[17:56] <Jamie96> So in a nutshell(started googling the concept), write rasbian image to USB, copy /boot to SD and change cmdline to root=/dev/USBdev?
[17:57] <pksato> Jamie96: yes.
[17:57] <pksato> but, recommend to use volume name or uuid to root=
[17:58] <pksato> /etc/fstab need to reflect changes.
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[18:04] <Ezriilc> I use my old Model B like that too: NAS, LAMP, Seedbox.
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[19:50] <exonormal> all silent, eh?
[19:52] <SpeedEvil> yes.
[19:52] <SpeedEvil> It's like some people actually have lives
[19:53] <AiGreek> we do ?
[19:54] <exonormal> lol
[19:54] <exonormal> I don't...
[19:54] <AiGreek> me neither...
[19:54] <exonormal> I just sit here and chat
[19:55] <sedition> its christmas eve
[19:55] <sedition> everyone is off work
[19:55] <exonormal> I am at a Barnes and Noble book store using their wifi
[19:56] <ozzzy> everything is open here
[19:56] <exonormal> yeah?
[19:56] <ozzzy> xmas eve isn't a holiday
[19:56] <exonormal> as most see it
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[20:08] <deshipu> depends on the country, really
[20:08] <AiGreek> and the people
[20:09] <AiGreek> i don't give a **** about Xmas
[20:09] <exonormal> lol
[20:09] <deshipu> well, that doesn't make the shops around you magically open
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[20:09] <gordonDrogon> I'm looking forward to santa tomorrow!
[20:09] <exonormal> nice
[20:10] <AiGreek> perhaps a Pi Zero under the tree ?
[20:10] <deshipu> crushed under a tree?
[20:10] <exonormal> lol, sillie
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[20:13] <gordonDrogon> I think santa has promised wifey a zero for xmas ...
[20:14] <exonormal> oh?
[20:14] <exonormal> she likes them pi's?
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> make a nice keyring.
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[20:16] <exonormal> lol
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[20:16] <exonormal> necklace?
[20:16] <gordonDrogon> no... don't think they make good necklaces.
[20:16] <gordonDrogon> I did get her some glass for a necklace once though.
[20:16] <exonormal> cool
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> from a little island called murano. they make nice glass there.
[20:17] <exonormal> you cud get the zero and place a watch batt on it to at least make LEDs work
[20:17] <exonormal> sweet
[20:18] <gordonDrogon> LED - singular. The 0 only has 1 LED ...
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[20:19] <exonormal> solder some on the gpio's
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[20:21] <gordonDrogon> don't think it'll last that long on a watch battery though - if I wanted to do that, I'd make a little something with an atmega...
[20:21] <exonormal> ahhh.. ok
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[20:23] <gordonDrogon> although the last LED thing I made her didn't have a processor on-board. imagine that - batteries, a button and some LEDs. amazing :)
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> (oh, a resistor or 3 too.)
[20:24] <exonormal> lol
[20:24] <exonormal> like those advertising beer caps
[20:24] <gordonDrogon> bunch of UV LEDs so we could find slugs/snails in the garden at night.
[20:24] <exonormal> yes
[20:25] <ozzzy> gordonDrogon, get some pet skunks
[20:25] <gordonDrogon> wrote country.
[20:25] <gordonDrogon> *wrong.
[20:25] <gordonDrogon> skunks eat slugs?
[20:25] <ozzzy> yep
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> wow.
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> unlucky them.
[20:26] <ozzzy> they love'em
[20:26] <gordonDrogon> ducks are supposed to eat them too.
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[20:28] <ozzzy> no skunks in the Youkay?
[20:28] * ozzzy sees a business opportunity
[20:29] <gordonDrogon> nope.
[20:29] <ozzzy> my dog thinks that they're related.... I have to de-skunk her a few times a year
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[20:30] <gordonDrogon> yuk.
[20:30] <gordonDrogon> I remember running over a dead one when I was living in the US. I changed the rental car the next day...
[20:30] <ozzzy> simple... I keep a spray bottle of baking soda, peroxide and dish soap handy
[20:31] <gordonDrogon> not being a native, I didn't know the cure. changing the car seemed easier.
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[20:34] <ozzzy> maggie doesn't mind the concoction being sprayed on her... but she doesn't like being hit by the hose after
[20:34] <ozzzy> LOL
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[20:43] <Jfault> hey people! I'm trying to use C + WiringPi to control my GPIOs... the problem is I'm using a ton of pins (6 of them) and I don't want to turn them all off individually when I ctrl-c. is there an equivalent to GPIO.cleanup() (in python)?
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> you mean you do want to turn them off?
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi doesn't turn them off by default...
[20:44] <Apocx> I think he wants to run one statement and turn them off, as opposed to turning them off one by one.
[20:45] <Jfault> ^
[20:45] <gordonDrogon> you write a bash script that calls the gpio program ..
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[20:45] <gordonDrogon> or you trap ctrl-C in your code and do it there.
[20:46] <Jfault> so there isn't a built-in function to turn them all off?
[20:46] <gordonDrogon> no
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[20:46] <gordonDrogon> this is deliberate - you might have different programs using different gpio's.
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[20:47] <Apocx> you could pretty easily add pin usage tracking and cleanup yourself though
[20:47] <Jfault> what about the ones I've used so far the in the program (an equivalent to RPi.GPIO.cleanup())
[20:48] <gordonDrogon> you could write your own, then trap ctrl-c, etc.
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[20:48] <Jfault> ok
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[20:48] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi doesn't keep track of what pins you use ...
[20:48] <Jfault> i see
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[20:49] <gordonDrogon> have a look at: http://unicorn.drogon.net/signal
[20:49] <gordonDrogon> you also need: #include <signal.h>
[20:49] <Apocx> I'd just make a custom function you call to setup a pin, which then calls wiringPi's function and sets a bool in an array, and then at program exit use that array to turn off only those pins.
[20:50] <Apocx> and trap ctrl+C as gordon said
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> I did consider having a cleanup type function, but tricky to know when you actually want to use it. maybe one day I'll add it in, then you could use an on_exit() function with it.
[20:53] <gordonDrogon> sometimes you simply don't know what the right thing to do is. if you turn an output off that's actually an inverted input to e.g. the garage door closer and you ctrl-c the program - then the door closes ... when you might not have wanted it to.
[20:53] <gordonDrogon> so I decided to just leave things the way they were and leave it as an exercise to the user ... :-)
[20:54] <gordonDrogon> that code on unicorn is part of my oven controller - I really do want the oven off if I ctrl-c the program (for now, anyway).
[20:54] <gordonDrogon> off for a cuppa. back inna bit.
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[21:00] <zleap> how do i pass a variable from say text=rawinput() to posttochat in minecraft pi
[21:01] <zleap> so bascially ask for a text string and then pass that on to posttochat in mcpi api
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[21:09] <zleap> hi
[21:10] <zleap> can anyone help with the mcpi api please
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[21:36] <methuzla> zleap i haven't done anything with mcpi, but it looks like pretty simple python
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[21:37] <zleap> i thought that, i just not sure how to pass the variable on
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[21:37] <zleap> mc.Posttochat("hello") is how you talk directly posttochat text where text is a variable fails
[21:37] <zleap> case needs adjusting there
[21:38] <methuzla> case as in upper and lower?
[21:39] <zleap> yeah
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[21:39] <zleap> but for the purose of chat, i am just asking how to do something clearly in actual code you use correct case for stuff if needed
[21:41] <methuzla> quick googling seems to indicate the function is: mc.postToChat()
[21:41] <methuzla> does that seem correct?
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[21:43] <zleap> yeah
[21:43] <zleap> inside() you put what you want to print
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[21:43] <zleap> not sure how to put a variable in there
[21:43] <methuzla> python is case sensitive, so if the function is mc.postToChat(), then mc.Posttochat("hello") won't work
[21:44] <methuzla> it needs to be mc.postToChat("hello")
[21:46] <methuzla> then you should be able to do
[21:46] <methuzla> text = raw_input("Enter something:")
[21:46] <methuzla> mc.postToChat(text)
[21:46] <zleap> ah
[21:46] <zleap> thanks
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[21:47] <methuzla> or the more pythony way:
[21:48] <methuzla> mc.postToChat(raw_input("Enter something:"))
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[21:49] <zleap> yay works thanks
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[21:49] <zleap> i want to write a tkinter gui so users can enter text and have mc pi print it
[21:49] <zleap> and then expand that (or inspire others to)
[21:49] <zleap> so it does other things
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[22:31] <ThePendulum> got a 16×16 RGB LED grid :O
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[22:45] <Rickmasta> Hey guys, I have a npm script running on my rpi
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[22:46] <Rickmasta> is there anway to set up something to watch if the script crashes and re-run it
[22:46] <Rickmasta> ?
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[22:59] <ThePendulum> Rickmasta: I use Forever a lot
[23:00] <ThePendulum> but I'm not sure how well that works for npm scripts in particular
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[23:00] <ThePendulum> seems a bit odd to run something that needs to be running consistently through npm?
[23:01] <wili> Hey guys, is it possible to play somehow with minecraft pi via network? for example start minecraft pi server on one raspberry and than controll it from Mac? Is normal minecraft client works? or can I type python script just on RPI?
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[23:14] <gordonDrogon> what's npm ?
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[23:16] <AiGreek> npm ? it's not something with NodeJS ?
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[23:23] <Lyka> neither of my pis seem to read /etc/modules on boot. how do i get them to?
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[23:26] <Rickmasta> So I found and modified the cron job http://pastie.org/10651498#
[23:26] <Rickmasta> bash script, sorry.
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[23:26] <Rickmasta> and added "* * * * * /usr/local/bin/restartairsonos.sh" to have it run every minute
[23:27] <Rickmasta> but it didn't work
[23:27] <Lyka> i feel like i am being pranked. my raspbian installs won't read /etc/modules...
[23:28] <gordonDrogon> Rickmasta, if your script takes more than 1 minutes to run then you'll end up with lots of them running...
[23:28] <Rickmasta> I can change it to 5 minutes
[23:28] <Rickmasta> but how do I make sure it's working?
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[23:30] <Lyka> not only that, but my 'A+' seems to not have the hardware that "spi_bcm2708" driver goes with
[23:30] <gordonDrogon> typically a program designed to run 'forever' would write its PID somewhere - e.g. /var/run/ then any other program can read the PID, send it a signal and see if it responds..
[23:31] <gordonDrogon> Lyka, run sudo raspi-config and enable/disable device tree and SPI/I2C as required.
[23:31] <Lyka> i tried
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[23:31] <gordonDrogon> Lyka, see /etc/modprobe.d and look for any modules being blacklisted ?
[23:32] <Lyka> i checked
[23:32] <Lyka> /etc/modules is not being read
[23:32] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea then.
[23:33] <Lyka> could this be related to the presece of /boot/config.txt ?
[23:33] <Rickmasta> my cron job isn't running period because I added en echo to the beggning of my bash script and ts not working
[23:33] <gordonDrogon> I think I'm off to bed to wait for santa.
[23:34] <Rickmasta> night gordonDrogon
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[23:37] <ThePendulum> I hope I can get this LED matrix to work. Dad should've told me he was going to grab one so I could've grabbed a PSU bigger than 10A
[23:37] <ThePendulum> 416 LEDs on 5V 10A... hmmm
[23:39] <D34dMan> hmm how are you driving LEDS?
[23:39] <D34dMan> how many of them will be "ON" at the same time?
[23:39] <ThePendulum> probably all of them most of the time
[23:39] <D34dMan> like, are you using multiplexing?
[23:40] <ThePendulum> I don't think I can use both the matrix and the strip at the same time
[23:40] <ThePendulum> D34dMan: I'm not; would that matter for power consumption at all?
[23:40] <Lyka> why do i get the feeling that people here think i am making up the /etc/modules problem i have?
[23:40] <D34dMan> yes if you are multiplexing, then it reduces a lot
[23:41] <ThePendulum> could you summarize multiplexing for me?
[23:41] <ThePendulum> I can't fathom how that's supposed to do anything
[23:41] <D34dMan> consider a 2D matrix of 4x4 leds
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[23:42] <ThePendulum> done
[23:42] <D34dMan> now the driver will turn first colum for 20ms, then second column for 20ms and 3 and so on and come back to first column
[23:42] <D34dMan> the switching happens so fast that you can't actually notice any flicker
[23:43] <D34dMan> but on an average the current consumption is 1/4th now
[23:43] <D34dMan> (and it will be less brigher offcourse)
[23:44] <D34dMan> now multiplexing is done, when you want to save pins that is used to control the LEDS.
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[23:44] <ThePendulum> save pins?
[23:44] <D34dMan> if you use one pin to control 1 led, then you need 16 to control 16 leds
[23:44] <ThePendulum> they're all chained together though?
[23:45] <D34dMan> but using multiplexing, you need 8 pins in total to control 16 leds
[23:45] <D34dMan> if its in series, then its is not Matrix
[23:46] <ThePendulum> it is in series, just laid out as a matrix
[23:46] <ThePendulum> basically a folded strip
[23:46] <D34dMan> oh ok :)
[23:49] <ThePendulum> sorry for the confusion hehe
[23:49] <ThePendulum> aww, strandtest doesn't work
[23:49] <ThePendulum> I guess the 3.3V is cutting too low
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[23:50] <ThePendulum> it works for my LED strip, but I'm getting nothing from the matrix
[23:52] <D34dMan> is there a faintest glow?
[23:52] <ThePendulum> nothing, the data is 3.3V btw, the LEDs themselves should be getting the full 5V
[23:52] <ThePendulum> at least, without the LED strip attached it should be able to pull the entire matrix
[23:52] <D34dMan> btw ThePendulum this is the LED matrix i was talking about http://www.futurlec.com/LED/LEDM88G.shtml
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[23:53] <ThePendulum> Yeah, this is just a WS2811 series in matrix layout
[23:53] <ThePendulum> 3 wires in, 3 wires out
[23:53] <D34dMan> and are you driving it through a relay?
[23:53] <D34dMan> or transistor switch?
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[23:53] <ThePendulum> no
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[23:54] <ThePendulum> it's wired directly to the Pi and power supply with the ground wired together
[23:54] <ThePendulum> same setup I was using for my strip basically
[23:55] <ThePendulum> however it's definitely possible this does require the level shifter to work
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[23:57] <ThePendulum> I wish I could at least somehow confirm the panel works
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