#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2015-12-26

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[0:00] <Berg> so merry6 yesterday
[0:00] <vikaton> gordonDrogon: okay, but it was wrapper for your lib was made for it https://github.com/Ogeon/rust-wiringpi
[0:00] <jancoow> happy second crhistmass day!
[0:01] <gordonDrogon> vikaton, that's nice, but I don't have the time/energy to track everything that people do with wiringPi...
[0:01] <vikaton> Just fyi :)
[0:02] <gordonDrogon> thanks.
[0:02] <Berg> wired image note the extra poower leads to the relay board http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/d/30006-1/Screenshot+from+2015-07-07+11_31_17.png
[0:02] <Berg> not a clear image sorry
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[0:08] <natalie> Is there a way to change the color from b/w on the rasberry pi?
[0:08] <natalie> I'm using composit
[0:09] <gordonDrogon> it should be colour, but who knows.
[0:09] <gordonDrogon> pretty sure it was colour the one and only time I plugged it into my old tube TV...
[0:11] <pksato> natalie: need to change color standard, to one used in you country.
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[0:14] <EvilDMP-> this is possibly a dumb question... but where on earth is the wifi/network config application in the GUI?!
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[0:19] <jancoow> ugh still strugling with that stupid serial mouse..
[0:20] <jancoow> gordonDrogon: do your rotarry encoder code also work with the dual phototransistor in a old ball mouse?
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[0:34] <jancoow> oke serial mouse is dead, its burned lol
[0:34] <jancoow> that where NOT the right pins lol
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[0:39] <ruurd> Good. Serial meese are so last century.
[0:39] <jancoow> i need the rotarry encoder :(
[0:40] <ruurd> then don't burn it...
[0:41] <ruurd> would a mechanical one work?
[0:41] <jancoow> ?
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[0:50] <pksato> rotarry encoder? mouse scroll?
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[0:51] <jancoow> i just found a mouse scroll wheel
[0:51] <jancoow> could use that too yeah
[0:52] <jancoow> do you know how to wire it?
[0:52] <pksato> have three pins?
[0:53] <jancoow> yes!
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[0:53] <pksato> check on pcb what is the commom pin.
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[0:54] <pksato> two other are switchs, use a pull-up or pull-down resistor.
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[0:54] <pksato> commom pin to 3v3 or GND.
[0:55] <pksato> wiringpi and others probably works.
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[0:56] <jancoow> when i'm measuring it with my multimeter: 1 click and al lthe three pins are connected, one click further and none of the pins are connected
[0:57] <pksato> yes...
[0:58] <pksato> the magic happes between clicks.
[0:58] <pksato> happens
[0:58] <jancoow> found the common one (black wire)
[1:00] <jancoow> and what magic is that?
[1:00] <pksato> http://www.instructables.com/id/Scales-for-analphabetic-people/step4/The-code-reading-the-rotary-encoder/
[1:00] <pksato> see first image
[1:00] <jancoow> ah
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[1:01] <jancoow> that's exactly the same graph what comes from a rotary encoder of a ball mouse
[1:01] <jancoow> with the ir and photosensor
[1:01] <pksato> yes
[1:01] <pksato> in quadrature pulses.
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[1:02] <jancoow> and how fast are these pulses between the clicks?
[1:02] <pksato> that is rotation speed?
[1:02] <pksato> how many pulses per revolution?
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[1:08] <jancoow> ahh
[1:08] <jancoow> i think i get it
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[1:13] <MichaelJohnston> Hey everyone, just got a Pi 2 for Christmas and it's getting very hot. measure_temp reports 99.8 deg C. That normal?
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[1:15] <pksato> MichaelJohnston: is not in Fahrenheit?
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[1:16] <MichaelJohnston> pksato: The exact output says temp=99.8'C
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[1:16] <pksato> main chip is really hot on touch?
[1:17] <MichaelJohnston> Extremely
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[1:17] <MichaelJohnston> Seems to be shutting down due to over temp. Not overclocking as far as I know. Just took it out of box with fresh raspbian
[1:18] <SpeedEvil> is it inside a case?
[1:18] <pksato> can be a fault device. contact seller.
[1:18] <MichaelJohnston> It was, but I pulled it out, let it cool to touch, now around 83
[1:18] <MichaelJohnston> Yeah, I'm thinking it's faulty
[1:19] <SpeedEvil> what is teh temp when it equilibrates in cool air?
[1:19] <pksato> or/and check for short cicuit (solder bridge)
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[1:20] <MichaelJohnston> SpeedEvil: Gets pretty hot as soon as I boot it up even without a case. Basically right up to the 90s within a few minutes
[1:22] <SpeedEvil> right - that's an issue then.
[1:22] <SpeedEvil> I assume your PSU is at the right voltage?
[1:22] <SpeedEvil> (that I wouldn't expect to do this anyway)
[1:22] <MichaelJohnston> Should be. Got it in a kit from Cana
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[1:26] <SpeedEvil> nothing else is connected?
[1:28] <MichaelJohnston> Not atm. Have done a little with the GPIO. Only some of them seem to respond although I havent done too much sleuthing on that yet
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[1:48] <Ispira> And now my assembler refuses to assemble
[1:48] <Ispira> rip
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[1:54] <MichaelJohnston> Yeah, something is very wrong with my Pi. wiringPi test shows 15 pin faults. Probably a short somewhere. Gonna get it replaced. Thanks for the help.
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[2:45] <Ispira> im doing kernel dev really wrong
[2:45] <Ispira> I have aliases of common commands set up in ~/.zshrc instead of making a makefile
[2:45] <Ispira> hue
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[3:15] <Ispira> stop erroring you silly gcc
[3:16] <exonormal> Huh?
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[3:31] <furkan> i bought an Adata UHS-1 microSD card to use in my rpi2, and wrote the raspian jessie image to it, and it doesn't seem to boot
[3:31] <furkan> i just get a solid red + green LED
[3:32] <furkan> is there anything that i might be able to do to get it working?
[3:32] <exonormal> does it work in Raspbian?
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[3:33] <pyroxide> buddy is talking about suicide. what do?
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[3:34] <furkan> pyroxide: i recall seeing a guide on reddit on what you're supposed to do, but if he's saying that he's going to do it i think you have to call the police
[3:34] <furkan> at least here, legally if somebody says they will commit suicide (not if they're just thinking about it) you have to report it
[3:35] <pyroxide> not to that point
[3:35] <furkan> exonormal: how do i check that considering that i can't boot from it?
[3:35] <furkan> pyroxide: i saw a guide somewhere on here https://www.reddit.com/r/SuicideWatch/
[3:35] <exonormal> furkan: image a SD card in Raspbian and see if it will boot to Raspbain
[3:35] <furkan> some info on the right-hand side
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[3:36] <furkan> exonormal: that's what i did but i just get a solid green LED and nothing happens, no splash screen or anything
[3:36] <furkan> oh, image it in Raspbian
[3:36] <furkan> hmm
[3:37] <furkan> that means i need to boot from a USB stick so that i can image the card right?
[3:37] <Ispira> alright welp
[3:37] <exonormal> yes, try Raspbian or use the NOOBS download
[3:37] <furkan> ok thanks i'll give it a try
[3:37] <Ispira> I'm working on a bare-metal kernel to light up the raspberry pi 2's ACT LED done
[3:37] <pyroxide> furkan, thanks. he just came to me out of the blue like 2 minutes ago
[3:37] <Ispira> I think I've programmed it correctly, but I'm failing at the whole compiling it thing.
[3:38] <furkan> pyroxide: np good luck i hope it works out
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[3:46] <Ispira> `$ arm-none-eabi-ld src/kernel7.asm -o build/kernel7.elf`: file format not recognized; treating as linker script
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[3:46] <Ispira> you know
[3:46] <Ispira> you'd think this'd be better documented on the internet
[3:46] <Ispira> the raspberry pi 2 isn't that new is it?
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[3:48] <exonormal> no, been around for a year
[3:48] <jridder> Are you cross compiling it?
[3:50] <Ispira> yes
[3:50] <Ispira> hence "arm-none-eabi-ld"
[3:50] <Ispira> vs standard programs
[3:52] <Ispira> every fucking bare-metal guide is for compiling shit in C
[3:52] <Ispira> I'm writing ARM assembly
[3:52] <Ispira> not C
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[3:53] <jridder> No it's all C is you are using a canned source. What is your goal though? Jessie lite is actually pretty small and tight.
[3:54] <Ispira> I'm trying to learn about developing operating systems and working directly with hardware
[3:54] <Xionkana> Hey everybody. I got my RPi 2 B today with a 7inch LCD screen, but I can't seem to get the screen to come alive. It should power itself via HDMI right?
[3:54] <Ispira> I wouldn't expect a screen to be powered over HDMI.
[3:55] <jridder> Have you ever rolled a kernel before?
[3:55] <Xionkana> Oh. Crap. >_<"
[3:55] <Ispira> not from bare-metal jridder
[3:55] <Ispira> I've modified and compiled linux kernels
[3:55] <Ispira> I'm trying to do the basic "make the ACT light come on" kernel
[3:55] <Ispira> and by following any instructions I find to compile and link it
[3:55] <Ispira> it isn't working
[3:56] <jridder> I'm with you, I gave up trying to cross compile it.
[3:56] <Ispira> the assembly file compiles with no errors but the second I run it through arm-none-eabi-ld as this is telling me
[3:56] <Ispira> it tells me it doesn't understand what the fuck it is
[3:56] <Ispira> OH MY GOD
[3:56] <Ispira> I FIXED IT.
[3:56] <jridder> what was it?
[3:56] <Ispira> the guide was telling you to run the commands like this
[3:57] <Ispira> (arm-none-eabi-<program> replaced with <program>-arm)
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[3:58] <Ispira> `as-arm -mcpu=cortex-a7 src/kernel7.asm -o build/kernel7.o` then `ld-arm src/kernel7.asm -o build/kernel7.elf`
[3:58] <Ispira> that's wrong.
[3:58] <Ispira> out of a half-assed guess I replaced the second command with `ld-arm build/kernel7.o -o build/kernel7.elf`
[3:58] <Ispira> I say half-assed guess
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[3:59] <jridder> lol
[3:59] <Ispira> more of a realization that I was using a linker on a source file
[4:00] <malac0da> Ok this may be a stupid question but I had bought a raspberry pi and it came with noobs. Is noobs on the sdcard or on the adapter?
[4:00] <jridder> It would be on the sdcard
[4:01] <pksato> what adapter?
[4:01] <malac0da> the microsd adapter
[4:01] <pksato> its is a dummy device.
[4:01] <malac0da> hrmmm I wonder why I cant use the adapter in my computer to flash the sdcard...
[4:02] <jridder> The adapter just takes the connect pins on the microsd card and presents it to a standard sd card slot
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[4:02] <Xionkana> If I plan on running a node.js webserver on my RPi, should I stick with NOOBS/Raspbian? Or should I flash to Ubuntu / Arch?
[4:02] <malac0da> pksato: thats what I thought but I was trying to figure out why the adapter wasnt working and that was one thought I had...but I guess it was wrong lol
[4:03] <pksato> malac0da: or you sdcard reader not support the sd card.
[4:03] <malac0da> guess the adapter just crapped out
[4:03] <JakeSays> heh. the pitft 2.8" hat is pretty slick
[4:03] <malac0da> I put the micro sdcard in a different adapter and it worked
[4:03] <pksato> early reader and cards are limited to 2GB.
[4:03] <pksato> or 4GB.
[4:04] <JakeSays> Xionkana: stick with raspbian.
[4:04] <Xionkana> JakeSays: Will do.
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[4:07] <pyroxide> is IceCat too much for RPi2B?
[4:08] <pyroxide> i'm waiting on amazon to send me a replacement because the previous one that I received has HDMI problems. like it stopped and wouldn't work at all until i restarted it. wasn't a power management thing either because it would accept input just not display anything.
[4:11] <exonormal> pyroxide: have you tried different monitors???
[4:11] <pyroxide> exonormal, yep. also tried HDMI boost and different distros
[4:12] <exonormal> hmmm...ok
[4:12] <pyroxide> i'm currently running a VirtualBox VM, but i wish i could set the CPU freq somehow
[4:13] <malac0da> Hrmmm now its working guess it just wasnt in right?
[4:13] <malac0da> thanks for the quick responses
[4:14] <JakeSays> qt takes forever to build
[4:15] <furkan> exonormal: NOOBS worked :) thanks for the suggestion! that was the first time i ever had to use NOOBS... previously i would always just dd the raspbian image, i dunno why that didn't work this time
[4:15] <pyroxide> JakeSays, why are you having to build Qt?
[4:15] <JakeSays> pyroxide: so i can use it
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[4:16] <Ispira> WOOO OOOHOOOOO
[4:16] <pyroxide> installing gentoo?
[4:16] <Ispira> My bare-metal assembly kernel loaded and is running!
[4:16] <SpeedEvil> https://deals.slashdot.org/sales/2630?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=gam&utm_campaign=completeraspberrypibundle
[4:16] <JakeSays> pyroxide: me? no
[4:16] <SpeedEvil> 85% off. $850 value...
[4:16] <SpeedEvil> Only $119!
[4:16] <JakeSays> Ispira: ah cool. i've been meaning to try that
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[4:17] <Ispira> JakeSays: Raspberry Pi 2? or original?
[4:17] <JakeSays> Ispira: 2
[4:17] <Ispira> JakeSays: ask me if you have any issues
[4:17] <JakeSays> will do
[4:17] <Ispira> I have a working setup so I can guide exactly how to work things
[4:17] <pyroxide> JakeSays, was a joke. as i've never had to build it.
[4:18] <JakeSays> pyroxide: i'm building the embedded version so i don't need X
[4:19] <JakeSays> also distros never come with decent versions
[4:19] <pyroxide> JakeSays, want to cross-compile with my i7-6700K?
[4:19] <JakeSays> pyroxide: thats what i'm doing
[4:20] <Ispira> qt is pretty large, even on a decent cpu i'd imagine it takes a while.
[4:20] <JakeSays> yup
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[4:20] <Ispira> it takes my laptop (i3-4030u) 45 minutes to build the linux kernel
[4:20] <Ispira> which is pretty fast all things considered
[4:21] <pyroxide> how does that compare to compiling a browser?
[4:21] <Ispira> very short
[4:22] <Ispira> probably.
[4:22] <JakeSays> pyroxide: i can do chromium in about 20 minutes
[4:22] <Ispira> on a 6700k?
[4:22] <Ispira> wait i got you two confused
[4:22] <Ispira> what cpu JakeSays ?
[4:22] <JakeSays> dunno. its an i7 all i know
[4:22] <Ispira> so one of about 100 vastly differed processors
[4:22] <Ispira> noted.
[4:22] <JakeSays> lol yup
[4:22] <pyroxide> lol
[4:22] <Ispira> so it's either better than my desktop
[4:23] <JakeSays> its about 4 years old
[4:23] <Ispira> or worse than my laptop
[4:23] <Ispira> i7-9xx?
[4:23] <JakeSays> no clue
[4:23] <Ispira> what os are you on
[4:23] <JakeSays> win10
[4:23] <[Saint]> Infester: I'll help narrow it down.
[4:23] <[Saint]> "it has some cores in it"
[4:23] <JakeSays> [Saint]: lol
[4:23] <Ispira> press Windows + Pause JakeSays
[4:23] <[Saint]> Whoops, sorry Infester
[4:23] <[Saint]> *Ispira sorry
[4:23] <JakeSays> ah cool
[4:23] <Ispira> JakeSays: it'll bring up info about your computer
[4:24] <[Saint]> I'm also fairly confident it uses electricity.
[4:24] <JakeSays> i7 950 @ 3.07ghz
[4:24] <[Saint]> That ought to help.
[4:24] <Ispira> wooo i called it
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[4:24] <pyroxide> i had my VM set to single core and it took about 55 minutes to compile IceCat
[4:24] <JakeSays> pyroxide: what is icecat?
[4:24] <irc_smirk> ok
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[4:24] <pyroxide> firefox fork
[4:24] <Ispira> worse than my laptop
[4:24] <Ispira> which has an i5-3450
[4:24] <Ispira> my desktop**
[4:25] <Ispira> but much better than my laptop
[4:25] <Ispira> it'd take me ~80 minutes roughly to compile chrome
[4:25] <Ispira> given your numbers.
[4:25] <JakeSays> my office machine has a 6700k in it, 32gb ram.
[4:25] <JakeSays> my home one is the oldie
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[4:26] <JakeSays> qt takes far longer than chromium even though the chromium code base is many times larger
[4:26] <JakeSays> because google spent a ton of time on optimizing builds
[4:27] <JakeSays> none of this gcc cap
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[4:30] <pyroxide> still looking for game streaming solution over home network with AMD graphics card on host computer.
[4:31] <JakeSays> ah build done
[4:31] <Ispira> def. don't know
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[4:31] <pyroxide> all i've seen is stuff about moonlight/limelight, which is for Nvidia cards.
[4:32] <JakeSays> i tell ya best $100 i've spent in a long time was for visualgdb
[4:32] <Ispira> pyroxide: I got "lucky" because my R9-270 died not long before i got my pi2
[4:32] <JakeSays> pyroxide: whats limelight?
[4:32] <Ispira> in fact the pi 2 was already ordered
[4:32] <Ispira> and after my experience with an R9-270
[4:32] <Ispira> I'm never buying an AMD graphics card again for the forseeable future
[4:32] <Ispira> so I bought a 960 4gb
[4:32] <Ispira> so moonlight works for me
[4:32] <JakeSays> you still use moonlight?
[4:33] <Ispira> JakeSays: limelight (now moonlight) is a gamestreaming software for nvidia GeForce Shield
[4:33] <pyroxide> JakeSays, Limelight/moonlight is game streamign software for the client system.
[4:33] <JakeSays> ah
[4:33] <Ispira> moonlight is the current software
[4:33] <Ispira> limelight is old
[4:33] <Ispira> based on java
[4:33] <JakeSays> bad name
[4:33] <Ispira> moodlight is the C rewrite
[4:33] <Ispira> C/C++ one of the two
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[4:35] <pyroxide> i've never had problems with graphics cards or even drivers. using a R9 290X and works fine for games at 1440p
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[4:36] <pyroxide> well i take that back. i only had overheating problems with this card because of it's poor build quality. ASUS DirectCU2 cards are known for this.
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[4:37] <JakeSays> one of these days i'm building this: https://learn.adafruit.com/piphone-a-raspberry-pi-based-cellphone
[4:37] <pyroxide> holy crap i just thought of something that might work; if i install android on a pi2 i can use splashtop streaming software to at least stream my desktop
[4:38] <pyroxide> i've gotta try plugging keyboard+mouse into my tablet to at least find out if it can work.
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[4:44] <JakeSays> pyroxide: how well does android on a pi2 work?
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[4:49] <pyroxide> haven't tried it yet. haven't even read up on it, but i imagine it can't be too bad because it's ARMv7
[4:50] <JakeSays> huh. gpu perf on qt is pretty decent
[4:51] <JakeSays> now i just need to get it to run on my pitft and not hdmi
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[4:52] <irc_smirk> im hungry for ham
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[4:54] <pyroxide> Aplashtop does not support applications that require direct screen access
[4:54] <JakeSays> aplashtop?
[4:54] <pyroxide> Splashtop, even.
[4:54] <JakeSays> lol
[4:55] <JakeSays> whats splashtop?
[4:55] <pyroxide> streaming software
[4:55] <JakeSays> ah
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[4:57] <nhooyr> is there a way to shutdown the raspberry pi when its connected to a battery and the power is getting low?
[4:57] <nhooyr> cleanly shutdown
[5:02] <pyroxide> shutdown -h now
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[5:02] <exonormal> yeh, click icon lower left and LXDE shows up then click shutdown.
[5:03] <pyroxide> he want to automate it, i think
[5:03] <exonormal> ok
[5:03] <nhooyr> automate it yea
[5:04] <pyroxide> my guess is to create a python script that picks up a GPIO value, if powerLevel < minPowerLevel: send shutdown signal
[5:06] <furkan> NOOBS is so convenient.. can't believe i missed out on this for so long
[5:06] <furkan> i always thought i'm not a noob, i know how to use dd, surely i don't need that lol
[5:07] <[Saint]> NOOBS is entirely superfluous.
[5:07] <[Saint]> And breaks the headless "ssh just works" flow.
[5:07] <furkan> what, it breaks ssh?
[5:08] <furkan> this was the first time that i wasn't able to get an rpi to boot after dd'ing an image
[5:08] <[Saint]> Well, if there's no default OS set up, and no keyboard/monitor...
[5:08] <[Saint]> in other words: yes, yes it does.
[5:08] <furkan> oh i see what you mean
[5:08] <nhooyr> pyroxide: all right, i'm just really new to raspberry pi programming, i know programming really well, just I have very little idea what GPIO is. time to guglee
[5:08] <[Saint]> you can't just write out a NOOBS image, put it in, and then expect to be able to ssh into it.
[5:08] <furkan> as in, it requires a screen/keyboard to set up, got it
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[5:09] <[Saint]> are you certain you weren't trying to use an old pi 1 image on a pi 2?
[5:09] <[Saint]> or vice versa?
[5:09] <furkan> yeah i flashed 2015-11-21-raspbian-jessie.img
[5:10] <furkan> on an rpi2
[5:10] <furkan> but that image should be compatible with both
[5:10] <[Saint]> Odd. There's absolutely zero reason why that shouldn't work.
[5:10] <furkan> well it's worked dozens of times on my rpis
[5:10] <[Saint]> Did you get a chance to verify the checksum of the image?
[5:10] <furkan> first time i tried for an rpi2 tho
[5:10] <furkan> hmm i should do that
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[5:13] <furkan> yeah, SHA-1 hash checks out
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[5:14] <[Saint]> Odd.
[5:15] <furkan> and i'm guessing block size is irrelevant when using dd? because other than that there's no way i could have screwed up the dd (i used bs=1MB)
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[5:15] <[Saint]> largely irrelevant, yes.
[5:17] <furkan> i dunno maybe it was a partition-related issue with that card
[5:18] <furkan> since i was previously using openelec, which i had flashed onto another card
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[5:26] <danieli> sounds unrealistic, writing another OS onto the SD card kind of overwrites the existing data
[5:27] <[Saint]> only if yo're doing a raw write to the card itself, and not any volume thereon.
[5:27] <[Saint]> but, yes.
[5:27] <pyroxide> i've only used the Win32DiskImager for flashing OS onto sd card
[5:27] <danieli> indeed, I only do raw writes of image files
[5:28] <danieli> pyroxide: I've used that one and dd with great success
[5:28] <danieli> not everyone uses Windows :P
[5:28] <pyroxide> true.
[5:28] <[Saint]> /dev/sd* == good
[5:28] <[Saint]> /dev/sd*1 == bad
[5:28] <danieli> mmcblk0
[5:29] <[Saint]> Well, you're not going to be writing the pi's sdcard image from the pi itself, so, no.
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[5:29] <danieli> [Saint]: what do you mean?
[5:29] <danieli> I fail to see the relevance of that statement
[5:29] <[Saint]> and it hurts.
[5:29] <danieli> linux runs on more than just raspberry pis, just saying.. also, OS X should have the dd tool
[5:30] <[Saint]> How many block device based hosts do you think people are going to be writing sdcards for raspi from?
[5:31] <[Saint]> and if it's any other context, then I, sir or madam, fail to find your statement relevant.
[5:32] <[Saint]> before you get all Internat-Nazi on someone, it pays to have a clue.
[5:34] <danieli> not sure if that is a rhetorical question, but most filesystems use blocks as an abstraction
[5:35] <danieli> no need to attempt offending either, Nazism is largely gone now
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[5:36] <[Saint]> Oh wow.
[5:36] <[Saint]> You're a real special one aren't you hun?
[5:36] <pyroxide> kids.
[5:41] <Berg> my dogs named wally
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[5:43] <pyroxide> Berg, thanks for telling me your password.
[5:44] <Berg> !g
[5:44] <Berg> with great poer cones great responsibility
[5:45] <exonormal> lol
[5:46] <exonormal> Berg's password... lol
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[5:55] <Berg> please keep it secret
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[6:52] <yskapell> Hi all
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[6:53] <yskapell> My keyboard settings reset always in default. How can I keep it in the layout I want?
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[7:02] <JakeSays> hey anyone tried freertos on the pi?
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[7:54] <Wingede> Will a 5V 2.1A power supply be ok on pi m2 ?
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[7:55] <furkan> Wingede: definitely
[7:56] <Ispira> Wingede: Yep, I'm running a 2.5A that came with a canakit
[7:56] <furkan> provided that it delivers what's advertised
[7:56] <Ispira> and it's WAY more than enough
[7:56] <Ispira> furkan is correct,if it's china ching-chong-charlie brand it might not actually deliver that.
[7:57] <furkan> they sometimes fall well below 5V at higher currents
[7:57] <Ispira> Anyway, named my development kernel/OS "Squished Raspberry"
[7:57] <Wingede> thanks for responses, my pi crashes after 2 days.. thinking it might be the cheap power supply so gonna try that
[7:57] <furkan> Wingede: is it a headless setup or no?
[7:57] <Ispira> Wingede: have you checked error logs?
[7:57] <furkan> because if you have a screen attached, you'd see a rainbow in the top right corner
[7:58] <furkan> if it wasn't getting enough power
[7:58] <Wingede> Ispira: when it crashes i get nothing on the screen at all, so haven't a clue what is causing it, /var/log/messages etc don't contain anything, it is quite random but fustrating
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[8:08] <Wingede> furkan: no rainbow, no screen output. I thought the PSU would be an easy change see how it goes, but need to get into the logs
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[8:26] <pyroxide> I was just able to get Spashtop personal to stream a game from my desktop to my android tablet. this could mean good news for android RPi2 users
[8:26] <pyroxide> not all games are compatible, however.
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[8:35] <JakeSays> hey how can i display the value of a preprocessor variable in gcc while compiling?
[8:37] <mlelstv> -dD Dump all macro definitions, at the end of preprocessing, in
[8:37] <mlelstv> addition to normal output.
[8:38] <JakeSays> oh i'd like to do it in the source file, via preprocessor directive
[8:38] <mlelstv> I fear there is no such thing
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[8:39] <mlelstv> you can emit warnings or errors. An error will abort the compile, a warning may do that.
[8:39] <JakeSays> #error is fine
[8:40] <JakeSays> just not sure how to go about doing the macro expansion
[8:46] <mlelstv> #define __str(x) #x
[8:46] <mlelstv> #define _str(x) __str(x)
[8:46] <mlelstv> #define A foo
[8:46] <mlelstv> #pragma message "A is " _str(A)
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[8:47] <JakeSays> mlelstv: i just came across that :)
[8:47] <mlelstv> I wouldn't use it :)
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[8:48] <JakeSays> it works - just trying to do some quick & dirty troubleshooting
[8:48] <JakeSays> nothing perm.
[8:51] <JakeSays> trying to get ugfx to work
[8:52] <JakeSays> i get a Segmentation fault. need a stack trace
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[8:53] <mlelstv> ugfx?
[8:53] <JakeSays> http://ugfx.org
[8:53] <JakeSays> its an embedded UI lib
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[9:20] <swift110-phone> Hry
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[9:45] <Ispira> hmm
[9:45] <Ispira> im doing somethingreally wrong.
[9:46] <Ispira> can't get the LED to blink on my little pi
[9:46] <Ispira> even tried someone else's code
[9:47] <ShorTie> can you turn it on ??
[9:47] <ShorTie> can you turn it off ??
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[9:48] <Ispira> yeah I was able to get it turned on
[9:49] <ShorTie> have you tried the blink program in wiringPi ??
[9:49] <Ispira> in fact running the blink code it just stays on
[9:49] <Ispira> Why double question marks every time, and what is wiringpi?
[9:51] <ShorTie> wiringPi is a C version of stuff for controling the gpio pins
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[10:07] <JakeSays> bah. sometimes i am really frustrated with adafruit's lack of technical information.
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[10:09] <ShorTie> Oh really, like what ??
[10:09] <ShorTie> it always seemed very good to me .. :/~
[10:09] <JakeSays> like the pixel format of the pitft display
[10:11] <Xark> Yeah...I don't even see what chipset it uses mentioned (betting ILI934x)
[10:11] <JakeSays> it is
[10:12] <JakeSays> 9341 i believe
[10:12] <Xark> JakeSays: It is in 16 bit mode?
[10:12] <JakeSays> hell if i know
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[10:12] <JakeSays> adafruit says its a 16 bit display
[10:13] <JakeSays> adafruit has a bad habit of assuming the world revolves around python
[10:13] <Xark> The hardware is actual 256K colors (but then you need 24 bits to set a pixel).
[10:14] <JakeSays> where did you see that?
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[10:14] <Xark> I am quite familiar with these displays having written -> https://hackaday.io/project/6038-pdqgfx-optimzed-avr-lcd-graphics
[10:15] <DSdavidDS> Evening folks. I am following the tutorial here https://pihw.wordpress.com/guides/direct-network-connection/ to set up a pi without a working laptop, but I seem to be having some issues. Can anyone guide me?
[10:15] <JakeSays> ok so adafruit claims "It features a 2.8" display with 320x240 16-bit color pixels"
[10:16] <Xark> JakeSays: Well, that is the mode they run it in. Here is a page from the ILI9341 datasheet showing 16 bit and 18 bit pixels -> https://imgur.com/1koQZ9P
[10:16] <JakeSays> well wtf
[10:17] <JakeSays> why wouldnt they run it at full depth?
[10:17] <JakeSays> thats nuts
[10:17] <Xark> Takes 3 bytes to draw a pixel vs 2 (so 1/3 slower).
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[10:17] <JakeSays> well crap
[10:17] <mlelstv> most gfx routines also only support 15/16bit or 24bit.
[10:17] <Xark> Honestly, the color fidelity on these displays is not such that the extra couple of bits matter all that much (but it can reduce banding in some cases).
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[10:18] <Xark> mlelstv: 18 bit is effectively 24 bit with a few bits ignored.
[10:18] <JakeSays> i'm trying to port ugfx to raspbian using the framebuffer
[10:18] <JakeSays> so in 16 bit mode, the pixel format would be RGB565?
[10:18] <Ispira> got the blink code working
[10:18] <Xark> JakeSays: Yes, as shown on that page.
[10:19] <Ispira> though intersting bit
[10:19] <Ispira> this kernel
[10:19] <Ispira> when the ACT led turns on (green)
[10:20] <Ispira> the PWR led turns off (red)
[10:20] <JakeSays> and the frame buffer stride should be 640 bytes, right?
[10:20] <DSdavidDS> Anyone here experienced in connecting a PI to a laptop by ethernet?
[10:20] <Ispira> when it act led turns back off, the pwr led turns on
[10:20] <Ispira> they alternate
[10:20] <Ispira> is that normal?
[10:20] <JakeSays> DSdavidDS: yeah. i do it all the time
[10:20] <Xark> JakeSays: Probably...but mostly it uses an X Y addressing mode (and can arbitrarily rotate coordinates).
[10:21] <DSdavidDS> JakeSays: mind uhh...walking me through this? I can't seem to get it to work.
[10:21] <JakeSays> Xark: the controller?
[10:22] <JakeSays> DSdavidDS: you trying to connect them directly to each other?
[10:22] <Ispira> so for the bare metal blink, is it normal for the red led to flash too? http://youtu.be/7HAUSH8j-Gc
[10:22] <JakeSays> Xark: because a framebuffer should be just standard memory access, isnt it?
[10:23] <Xark> JakeSays: Yes, if you are sending commands to the controller you set upper corner and width height of a "window" (and a direction). Then you pump pixels and the controller will "wrap" them into the window (and you can flip coordinates etc.)
[10:23] <DSdavidDS> JakeSays: yeah. my laptop is ubuntu btw
[10:23] <JakeSays> Xark: i'm not interacting directly with the controller. i'm going through adafruit's fbtft driver
[10:23] <Xark> JakeSays: If you are dealing with some Linux framebuffer, then presumably it would be standard width*bpp * height
[10:23] <JakeSays> yeah
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[10:24] * Xark notes the display is easy to control directly.
[10:24] <JakeSays> Xark: well ugfx has direct support for that controller, so i may just go that way
[10:24] <Xark> JakeSays: Right.
[10:25] <Xark> Framebuffer is a "neat hack", but probably not ideal for performance...
[10:25] <JakeSays> so far it hasnt been very neat
[10:25] <Xark> :)
[10:25] <Xark> So..."ugly hack"? :)
[10:26] <JakeSays> i'll probably have to revert the adafruit kernel
[10:27] <Xark> Well, if you go direct ugfx (or similar), then not so kernel dependent?
[10:27] <JakeSays> which i'm totally cool with
[10:27] <Xark> (Just SPI + GPIO)
[10:27] <JakeSays> adafruit has this stupid kernel build that i guess emulates the fb hack
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[10:34] <JakeSays> Xark: could you take a brief look at this code and see if its doing what you would expect? https://bitbucket.org/Tectu/ugfx/src/4b891ebc0413129dbea0b3137467db1263f848f4/drivers/gdisp/ILI9341/?at=master
[10:35] <Xark> Pretty much. Comes down to "write command" and "write data" primitives (which are all fairly well documented in ILI9341 datasheet). The difference is the "command indicator" line (typically controlled via GPIO alongside SPI data).
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[10:36] <Xark> (that code calls them write_index & write_data)
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[10:37] <JakeSays> Xark: if you look at board_ILI9341_template.h you can see where those method would be implemented
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[10:40] <Xark> Well,the signature for the functions (not the actual functions). ILI9341.h has all the "index" command numbers from ILI943x datasheet.
[10:41] <JakeSays> right
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[10:41] <JakeSays> those template functions i think need to be implemented to write to spi
[10:42] <JakeSays> iirc they're platform dependent
[10:42] <Xark> Sure.
[10:42] <Xark> Looks like there is a "_driver" file.
[10:43] <JakeSays> where are you seeing that?
[10:44] <Xark> MIght be something else, but I saw #include "../../../src/gdisp/gdisp_driver.h"
[10:44] <JakeSays> ah
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[10:50] <JakeSays> Xark: ok so i should be able to pull some of this from adafruit's gfx lib i would think
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[10:51] <JakeSays> hmm. looks like its all avr based
[10:52] <Xark> JakeSays: Not really, just a few low-level bits and init parts.
[10:52] <Xark> JakeSays: I've run my port of their library on MIPS etc.
[10:53] <Xark> JakeSays: For example, pretty sure it works on Teensy 3,x (ARM)
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[10:56] <JakeSays> Xark: i think i'm gonna have to pick this up tomorrow when my brain is clear. thanks for your help!
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[10:57] <furkan> is it possible to give omxplayer a playlist of rtsp/rtmp streams that can be cycled through with the keyboard as you would with a regular playlist?
[10:57] <Xark> JakeSays: No problem, goodnight. :)
[10:58] <Xark> furkan: I don't see anything jumping out when I do "omxplayer --help".
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[13:29] <sebie> what would be the best OS to run a rpi server on?
[13:30] <aphirst> 'best' is highly subjective
[13:31] <aphirst> for me best is basically "is it Arch" but for many people stability and official support is crucial
[13:31] <sebie> aphirst: most supported, I guess
[13:31] <sebie> aphirst: I was thinking arch as well tbh
[13:31] <ShorTie> because it is like writen by the SoC engineers help, I'd say raspbian
[13:31] <aphirst> yeah i mean
[13:32] <aphirst> raspbian is probably the one to use unless you yourself have or think you have a compelling reason otherwise
[13:32] <aphirst> i actually think i might have a hardware problem with my pi2 but i'm only going to follow it up _after_ i've tested it thoroughly on raspbian
[13:34] <sebie> thank you.
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[13:48] <aphirst> is there something weird about the official rpi charger ?
[13:48] <aphirst> it's microusb but doesn't seem to charge my phone
[13:48] <ali1234> some phones are weird
[13:48] <sebie> i just use a random microusb?
[13:49] <aphirst> i need to buy some microusb chargers that have actually good quality connectors on them
[13:49] <aphirst> i have a few cheap ones but they always feel loose in my phone(s)
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[14:08] <mlelstv> some phones are too smart for this world
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[15:41] <jancoow> pksato: hi. Are you there? :)
[15:42] <jancoow> oh isn't there
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[15:49] <pigrit> what up girlfriends
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[16:06] <AiGreek> not much
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[16:08] <thejman> Hey fellas. having just a little bit of trouble trying to get ssh setup
[16:09] <thejman> when i type ifconfig i dont see an ip address
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[16:09] <thejman> any ideas?
[16:11] <jancoow> what do you see?
[16:11] <jancoow> what are you trying to do; wifi or ethernet
[16:11] <thejman> Trying to do ethernet for now
[16:11] <thejman> so that i can set up wifi
[16:11] <jancoow> are the green leds blinking?
[16:11] <jancoow> or orange
[16:11] <thejman> yes
[16:11] <thejman> both are
[16:12] <jancoow> what does ping say?
[16:12] <thejman> 9 sent and 9 recieved
[16:12] <jancoow> good, so you have internet
[16:13] <thejman> yes but i need the ip and it is not listed
[16:13] <thejman> when i do ifconfig
[16:13] <jancoow> it SHOULD be behind inet addr
[16:13] <thejman> twi see inet6 addr
[16:14] <thejman> *i see
[16:14] <jancoow> ip addr show eth0 says?
[16:15] <thejman> holf on a minute
[16:15] <thejman> i might have wifi
[16:16] <thejman> would wifi override an ethernet connection?
[16:16] <jancoow> not sure
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[16:17] <thejman> yes it appears my wifi donge is working
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[16:17] <thejman> and the ip is listed under wlan0 instead of eth0
[16:17] <thejman> there we go!
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[16:19] <thejman> and ssh works! thanks for your guidance jancoow
[16:21] <jancoow> well you did it mostly yourself :)
[16:21] <jancoow> np!
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[16:50] <sgo11> hi, I am not sure what's going on here. I set my pi overclock to turbo and reboot. Now, I can not connect to pi's ssh server anymore. I don't have a hdmi monitor. so I don't know what's going on. what can I do now? I tried to press "SHIFT" with a usb keyboard connected with the pi. doesn't work at all. still can not connect to pi's ssh server.
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[16:53] <pksato> sgo11: put sdcard on big compuer and edit config.txt, remove/comment overclock lines.
[16:54] <sgo11> pksato, I will try that now. thanks a lot.
[16:54] <Karlton> overclocking too high can cause it to become unstable
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[17:04] <sgo11> pksato, I don't know why. but it doesn't work.
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[17:05] <sgo11> pksato, I can ping the pi IP address at the beginning, and then I lost the connection, even unable to ping the PI in the end.
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[17:07] <sgo11> the behavior is the same as before (when I overlock it to turbo). in config.txt, I simply uncomment that overclock param.
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[17:13] <sgo11> anyway, I changed to another SD card. it works fine. I will re-dd this broken sd card.
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[17:28] <zett_zelett> I want to connect my Raspberry Pi 2 to my laptop via ethernet in order to (A) access my Raspberry Pi from my laptop via ssh, and (B) access internet on my Raspberry Pi through my laptop (or my laptop’s wi-fi to be precise.)
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[17:28] <zett_zelett> Is this possible, can someone through me some keywords to google for?
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[17:28] <zett_zelett> throw*
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[17:29] <zett_zelett> My Rasperry Pi will run Raspbian, probably, or another linux distribution.
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[17:32] <myself> zett_zelett: have you tried it? what happened?
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[17:34] <D34dMan> i think jasper is caching the profile.yml file. i changed the stt engine to julius and it is still looking for sphinx
[17:35] <fluffet> zett_zelett: I think you can do all this with just interface configuration
[17:35] <fluffet> but i'm not 100% sure
[17:35] <zett_zelett> Actually, I haven’t tried it. I was just certain that some sort of configuration will be required. In the meantime, I found this http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/17146.
[17:36] <fluffet> if interface configuration won
[17:36] <fluffet> 't work maybe you can try some kind of ghetto ssh tunnel configuration
[17:37] <zett_zelett> Ok, so you mean like, enable some sort of ip forwarding on my laptop and putting in the correct gateway on the raspberry etc. will do the trick?
[17:37] <myself> depending on how your wifi is set up, either just bridge the interfaces on the laptop, or use internet connection sharing. Either way it's like 4 clicks.
[17:38] <myself> at least if the laptop is windows xp, vista, or 7. no idea how to do it in linux. :P
[17:38] <zett_zelett> Four clicks with which software?
[17:38] <zett_zelett> Ah, ok.
[17:38] * myself semi-trolls
[17:38] <zett_zelett> Yeah, I have a debian system.
[17:38] <fluffet> well basically if your laptop gives your raspberry some sort of IP in any way you're golden
[17:38] <fluffet> i'm not sure if you need some kind of software for that though
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[17:39] <zett_zelett> I can just configure my raspberry pi to use a static IP, right?
[17:39] <fluffet> well, your laptop would still need to understand your pi wants a static ip
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[17:39] <fluffet> so you need some kind of gateway software i would gess
[17:39] <fluffet> guess, but i'm no expert :)
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[17:39] <fluffet> or actually!
[17:40] <fluffet> i might have just the thing
[17:40] <zett_zelett> I thought that if I don’t put in ‘dhcp’ in the interface settings on my raspberry, but ‘static’ and specify the IP, the laptop doesn’t need to give any IP to the raspberry.
[17:40] <fluffet> https://www.ida.liu.se/~TDDI09/labs/NET%20-%20Networking.pdf
[17:40] <fluffet> in this course i read we did somethign similar once
[17:41] <fluffet> basically we configured a server( in this case your laptop ) to work in this way with client computers
[17:41] <fluffet> but it was really barebone, and i don't really remember everything we did
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[17:42] <fluffet> but i remember we created an extra interface on the server for "the internet" and one interface for lan clients and then bridged the two
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[17:43] <fluffet> that way all the clients got their own static ips and the server also had internet and the clients could reach the internet through the server/gateway
[17:43] <fluffet> so in theory its kinda what you want to do
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[17:43] <fluffet> sorry, extra interface on the gateway*, not server :)
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[17:44] <zett_zelett> Ok, thanks. Let’s see if that’ll help me.
[17:46] <fluffet> though like you said maybe dhcp will solve all your problems :D
[17:46] <zett_zelett> Oh, I actually meant no-dhcp will solve all my problems. But I don’t understand much of networking yet. : (
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[17:47] <fluffet> yeah me neither lol :D hate configuring that stuff
[17:47] <fluffet> nothing works until everything works
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[17:50] <fluffet> http://pastebin.com/mdHxQ5EN here's some configs, apparently the vms were still up so i could ssh
[17:50] <fluffet> dont know if it'll help you
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[17:58] <trix`G> Hello, I'm trying to get Nexuiz to work on my rpi2, and while I can get it to load, the menu system is crazy laggy at absolute minimum settings and the game is unplayable.
[17:58] <trix`G> Does anyone know how to get it to use the GPU rather than software rendering:
[17:59] <scat> hi, i'm using irssi on a rpi2 with a 320x240 display (64x26 console res)
[17:59] <trix`G> I know the darkplaces engine that it runs on can be smooth on the rpi, according to google searches, but despite hours of googling and reading I can't seem to figure out how
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[18:00] <trix`G> scat: hello. Are you looking to change display resolution or just stating a fact?
[18:00] <scat> tthe second
[18:00] <trix`G> ah
[18:00] <scat> sorry
[18:01] <scat> it's a 5x9 font
[18:01] <trix`G> heh, no skin off my back my friend.
[18:01] <fluffet> im using weechat on my raspberry :-)
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[18:01] <trix`G> I'm using irssi in the lxterminal emulator for lxde desktop
[18:01] <trix`G> but my total resolution is 1080p on my TV
[18:01] <scat> be back in a few
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[18:02] <fluffet> i use mosh to write this 500km away from my raspberry :D
[18:02] <fluffet> that's kinda amazing
[18:02] <trix`G> that's pretty cool, yeah
[18:03] <fluffet> mosh has revolutionized ssh on laptops
[18:03] <fluffet> i got it just the other day
[18:03] <fluffet> you never have to reconnect, it's so amazing omg
[18:03] <fluffet> sleep mode, no problem
[18:03] <fluffet> roaming, no problem
[18:03] <trix`G> heh I use my phone to ssh into my rpi all the time just using webssh app
[18:04] <fluffet> i think the app i use is called juicessh :D
[18:04] <fluffet> it supports mosh too
[18:04] <fluffet> but i don't really ssh much from my phone!
[18:04] <trix`G> i also use yatse to control Kodi on the rpi2 from my phone
[18:04] <myself> I'm on irc right now from juicessh on my phone!
[18:04] <myself> and also seamlessly from my laptop.. because screen -x is the coolest thing ever :P
[18:05] <fluffet> you use x11 forwarding? :P
[18:05] <fluffet> does it work well on the raspberry?
[18:05] <trix`G> so nobody that's around atm knows how to run darkplaces/nexuiz with hardware rendering?
[18:05] <fluffet> i dont :p
[18:06] <fluffet> i uninstalled everything that had to do with x forwarding
[18:06] <fluffet> it took like 1.1gb on a raspbian installation
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[18:06] <fluffet> with the desktop environment and so on
[18:07] <fluffet> i only use my raspberry as a headless server anyway :D
[18:07] <fluffet> though x forwarding to get rid of nano when configuring things would be nice...
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[18:07] <scat> back
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[18:08] <trix`G> ah I use mine as a full desktop computer
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[18:08] <trix`G> 128GB microsd card with a 1TB tiny pi-sized external SSD taped to the bottom of it
[18:08] <fluffet> nice :D
[18:09] <fluffet> do you use it as a torrent server?
[18:09] <trix`G> nope
[18:09] <fluffet> i run rtorrent to seed on torrentleech 24/7 on mine
[18:09] <scat> i'm just bored
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[18:09] <trix`G> I have it hooked up to my hdtv and have retropie, kodi, and LXDE installed
[18:10] <scat> damn 5x9 font is hard to read on a 320x240 2.2" tft display
[18:10] <fluffet> you should get rutorrent or qubittorrent :D
[18:10] <fluffet> torrentleech has an invite code atm
[18:10] <fluffet> if you run your raspberry 24/7 it's really nice
[18:10] <trix`G> I have qbittorrent
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[18:11] <trix`G> I don't use it to pirate though, I have Netflix add-on for Kodi plus a USB Blu-ray drive and a Retrode for game cartridges
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[18:12] <trix`G> https://www.dragonbox.de/en/313-retrode2-with-all-plugins-retrode.html
[18:12] <trix`G> perfect for the Pi
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[18:13] <trix`G> then I use a combo USB wifi/Bluetooth for internet and my PS3 gamepads, for a complete entertainment system
[18:14] <ozzzy> now there's a waste of money
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[18:14] <trix`G> not if you have the kind of game cartridge collection I do
[18:15] * ozzzy has never owned a game console.... or bought a PC game
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[18:16] <fluffet> waste of money? maybe he enjoyed building his own entertainment system :p
[18:16] <trix`G> ok sure and while your piracy does not bother me I don't see how paying for my games is a waste of money, if that is what you were referring to
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[18:16] <fluffet> also if you've never bought a game console or bought a game then you are a bit biased maybe? :P
[18:16] <ozzzy> no piracy
[18:17] <ozzzy> just no games LOL
[18:17] <trix`G> oh lol
[18:17] <trix`G> now there's a waste of many gameless years of not knowing what you're missing
[18:18] <Lyka> sucks that my 320x480 screen doesn't fit on the 2b without an extender that is still in the mail
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[18:18] <ozzzy> if I wanted to shoot things I grabbed a rifle or shotgun and went out to shoot things
[18:18] <ozzzy> [shrug]
[18:18] <Lyka> i have to use it on other rpi i have, an a+
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[18:19] <trix`G> I mean come on. You've never felt the wonder at thinking you beat FFIV only to find out there's another world underground! You've never felt the frustration of Aeris dying or marvelled at the badassity that is Sephiroth...
[18:19] <ozzzy> what's FFIV
[18:19] <trix`G> Final Fantasy 4
[18:19] <ozzzy> never heard of it
[18:20] <fluffet> "waste of money" and then you go out and shoot things
[18:20] <trix`G> You've never felt the pride at getting the best license in Gran Turismo and competing in the fastest, best races FINALLY
[18:20] <sedition> bull. you'd have to actively be trying to live in a box to not have heard of FF
[18:20] <sedition> lol
[18:20] <ozzzy> sedition, why
[18:20] <trix`G> I mean forget shooting things those games are for kids
[18:20] <fluffet> tell me how many bullets can you shoot for those $40 a game costs?
[18:20] <ozzzy> I've heard of GTA because it's in the news
[18:20] <trix`G> well and blowing off steam (I am here for Nexuiz after all)
[18:20] <ozzzy> fluffet, depends on the calibre
[18:21] <ozzzy> but then... it's real life not WalterMittyLand
[18:21] <trix`G> Hey I'd rather shoot real guns (at targets not living things) than play a shooter game any day, but I can't do that in my living room
[18:21] <trix`G> and, there are way, way, WAY more games out there than just shooters
[18:23] <trix`G> so unless you also race cars, arrest criminals, rob banks, defeat villains, swing lightsabers, fly spaceships and bombers and rockets and fighter jets, and much much more, you can't replace all games with real life.
[18:23] * SpeedEvil stabs trix`G.
[18:24] <SpeedEvil> yeah, cos actually thinking for your self is shit.
[18:24] <trix`G> uh
[18:24] <ozzzy> yep. I drove Formula Vee car my buddy built and a 1/4 mile car that I built back in the day
[18:25] <trix`G> SpeedEvil: what does one have to do with the other...?
[18:25] <trix`G> ozzzy: Did you ever build your own space station for your friends to dock their ship at for repairs and protection?
[18:25] <ozzzy> trix`G, I suppose... if you're life sux you could look for one in the computer
[18:25] <trix`G> because I think you are missing the point
[18:26] <SpeedEvil> trix`G: that experiencing content designed for others is a paltry imitation of actually designing stuff yourself
[18:26] * ozzzy thinks that the turkey soup may be JUST about ready
[18:26] <trix`G> ozzzy: lol assumptions. My life is great. The few hours a week I spend gaming are in no way representative of the quality of my life, except that it demonstrates the first-world luxury of being able to do so
[18:27] <trix`G> SpeedEvil: I never claimed otherwise. Only that never playing games at all throughout life is missing out on some awesome, worthwhile experiences that can be had no other way
[18:28] <trix`G> the same is true for most things people enjoy, from art to music, but nobody would bother arguing against listening to any music throughout one's entire life
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[18:29] <ozzzy> trix`G, hehe... I'm just pullin' yer leg.... I don't game but go for if that brings you enjoyment
[18:30] <trix`G> It does and I do =P
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[18:30] <ozzzy> I do astrophotography which people tell me is a hellish waste of money
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[18:31] <ozzzy> but... you can't take it with you [shrug]
[18:31] <sedition> most hobbies are.
[18:31] <sedition> they're like vices without the instant gratification
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[18:32] <muld3r> hi
[18:32] <Lyka> hi
[18:33] <Lyka> t wait for the extenters to come in the mail
[18:33] <Lyka> *can't wait
[18:33] <trix`G> so.... anyone know how to get darkplaces/nexuiz to use hardware rendering?
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[18:34] <Lyka> i can then use a bigger screen with my rpi2B innstead of with my rpia+
[18:35] <ozzzy> trix`G, if they haven't been written to the VideoCore4 then you're outta luck
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[18:36] <trix`G> ozzzy: What do you mean?
[18:36] <ozzzy> trix`G, they'd need access to the GPU which (I'm told) is pretty difficult to get
[18:36] <trix`G> ozzzy: Nexuiz uses the Darkplaces engine which has worked on the rpi before (for Quake)
[18:36] <ozzzy> yeah... but they'll run slow using the CPU instead of the GPU
[18:36] <Karlton> I think it uses GL2 and not GLES2
[18:37] <trix`G> the darkplaces version of quake ran great, on the rpi1 even, hardware rendering and all
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[18:38] <Lyka> gtg
[18:38] <trix`G> now it's using tyrquake for quake instead of darkplaces and google wont bring me to the old package
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[18:40] <trix`G> If I can just find a version of Darkplaces that used hardware rendering and OGL-ES I could mod it to launch Nexuiz instead of Quake, but I can only find references to that package, not the actual package
[18:40] <trix`G> it used to come with RetroPie scripts
[18:41] <trix`G> I think it was RetroPie 2.2 or 2.3 that included a script to build Darkplaces Quake with hardware rendering
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[18:44] <Lyka> okay, set up now as sssh from the a+ to the 2b
[18:45] <Lyka> cause the a+ has quarter the ram, quarter the cpu cores
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[18:46] <Lyka> though the 320x480 screen is very slow
[18:46] <Lyka> as it is connected via gpio
[18:47] <Lyka> the 320x240 on the 2b's gpio is faster, but it is also half the size
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[18:49] <Lyka> should i expect improvement whe the extender headers come on wednesday, allowing me to plug the 320x480 into the 2b?
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[19:18] <Xeek> my pizero uses 350mA ... must be something wrong with it
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[19:21] <myself> under what conditions? with what connected? measured how?
[19:24] <gordonDrogon> 350mA @ 5v = 1.75w. Seems about right to me.
[19:25] <Xeek> gordonDrogon: It uses more th an my pi A+ heh
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[19:25] <Xeek> myself: it always uses more th an 300mA, but at this very moment I have hdmi and a powered usb hub connected to it
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[19:26] <Xeek> myself: without hdmi connected and without any usb devices it still uses about 312mA at 5.4v
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[19:26] <Xeek> gordonDrogon: I've read on more than one website that it should be using less than 150mA, is everyone wrong?
[19:27] <daveake> OTOH it should be about 100mA with no peripherals #connected
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[19:28] <gordonDrogon> I guess I'm thinking back to the original B's which drew a bit more than that....
[19:28] <daveake> The LAN on that was a big consumer
[19:28] <Lyka> okay, the "2x13" way-too-long extender, which i had (i ordered 2x20s) is connecting the big screen to the 2B
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[19:28] <Lyka> yay
[19:29] <daveake> I think I got my zero down to 68mA with HDMI and LED switched off
[19:29] <Lyka> pita to connect it
[19:29] <Xeek> daveake: there is no LAN on the rpiZero
[19:30] <gordonDrogon> just built up a zero into one of the pimoroni cases ..... great, execpt I now have to take it to bits to fit the SD card. Doh!
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[19:30] <Xeek> daveake: i should be on par with the A+ at least with HDMI and the leds still enabled :-( this doesn' tmake much sense
[19:30] <Xeek> the broadcom chip is quite hot.. something is amis
[19:30] <gordonDrogon> overclocked?
[19:30] <Xeek> gordonDrogon: isn't it overclocked slightly from the factory? I have a fresh install of jesse lite on it right now
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[19:31] <irc_smirk> hello
[19:31] <irc_smirk> i am trying to setup my pi on a new wifi dongle
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[19:31] <Xeek> gordonDrogon: it just died lol.. yeah something is wrong wit hit
[19:31] <irc_smirk> i think i understand the tutorials ive found on manually configuring it
[19:32] <Xeek> started drawing 500mA when I did apt update lol.. then it just died.
[19:32] <irc_smirk> but what i dont get is how do i set it when i move the pi to a place i dont have direct ethernet access
[19:32] <irc_smirk> how would i set the ssid and password
[19:32] <Xeek> irc_smirk: hdmi/keyboard
[19:32] <irc_smirk> no hdmi available
[19:32] <irc_smirk> i am not going to walk aroudn with a monitor
[19:33] <Lyka> plug the card into a linux pc
[19:33] <gordonDrogon> you take the sd card out and put it in a linux PC and hand-edit the files to set the ssid/password ...
[19:33] <Lyka> i had to do that once
[19:33] <daveake> <Xeek> daveake: there is no LAN on the rpiZero
[19:33] <daveake> er yeah, I know
[19:33] <daveake> I was referring to Gordon's comment about the model B's consumption
[19:33] <Xeek> hmm this pi is messed up
[19:33] <irc_smirk> can i do that with a vm on a mac?
[19:34] <Xeek> irc_smirk: well I imagine you'll have to hav ea way to mount the linux partition on the sd card first :-)
[19:34] <Lyka> can it write to ext4?
[19:34] <irc_smirk> surely there must be an easier way
[19:34] <at0m> Lyka: not on windows by default. ms has unix tools that offers ext* and nfs, iirc
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[19:35] <pksato> store wifi and other configurations on fat partition.
[19:36] <irc_smirk> so there would have to be a script that copies it over?
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[19:39] <Xeek> that's a nice idea
[19:39] <Xeek> irc_smirk: write a python or shell script that mounts the fat partition and copies the wifi conf file to where it needs to be, sounds simple
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[19:41] <irc_smirk> im really suprised something like rasp-config doesnt have somethign liek this
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[19:41] <irc_smirk> how can the pi be embeddable if it cant auto connect to wifi like a regular laptop can
[19:41] <Xeek> irc_smirk: im sure it can, but that wouldn't work for me since my wifi networks always have passwords
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[19:42] <irc_smirk> sure then have a way to enter the password just as you do on a laptop
[19:43] <ozzzy> embedded processors don't necessarily need network connectivity
[19:43] <Xeek> irc_smirk: i've considered adding an oled screen to my pi projects so I can select a wifi network that way, but password input is goign to compicate things. I guess I can just plug in a keyboard :-)
[19:43] <Xeek> irc_smirk: remember, the pi itself doesn't have built in wifi :-) it's an addition, it's up to y ou to come up with these solutions.
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[19:44] <irc_smirk> i havent google enough. i sure someoen else has solved this most basic problem
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[19:45] <Xeek> its a basic problem without a basic solution.. auto selecting a wifi network is rather simple via python script, but if a password is invovled things get a little more complicated
[19:46] <Xeek> now.. where's the regulator on this pizero... my problem must be with that :-(
[19:46] <Xeek> maybe U3
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[19:48] <Xeek> yeah u3 must be the regulator.. I see caps and a inductor there
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[20:12] <paragon1811> does anyone know of any good projects you could do without buying more harware
[20:12] <paragon1811> *hardware
[20:12] <Xeek> I suppose that depends on what hwardware you already have on hand
[20:12] <paragon1811> I ahve just got a B= nothing else
[20:12] <Xeek> you can make a webserver out of it :-)
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[20:13] <paragon1811> Can you set up PHP on a pi
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[20:15] <Xeek> sure
[20:15] <Svardskampe> you can hook it up to a CRT tv and use retropie for a mini home retro console
[20:16] <Xeek> who has those anymore? hehe
[20:17] <Xeek> hmm I found a cap on my pizero that has continuity.. maybe its bad :-(
[20:17] <myself> is it getting hot?
[20:18] <Xeek> enough to burn my thumb on the broadcom chip :_(
[20:18] <Xeek> i think the regulator is fine... seems to have all the right voltages
[20:19] <myself> what software is running on it when you're making these current measurements?
[20:19] <Xeek> jesse lite
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[20:20] <myself> what's top show as idle/load?
[20:22] <Xeek> load average 0.46
[20:22] <Xeek> well actually its getting lower.. 0.33
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[20:25] <Xeek> I just did apt upgrade.. eventually got up to 500mA and shut off, probalby thermal protection kicking in
[20:25] <Xeek> thi ssucks. I dont get another pi zero until tuesday
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[20:39] <mozzwald> are pi zero schematics avail yet?
[20:39] <Xeek> mozzwald: i couldn't find them, but a lot of the zero's layout appears to match the B+ to some degree
[20:40] <Xeek> well not the layout, the schematic seems to match in some places based on what I see on the board. Same where the regulator is, it looks the same
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[20:41] <mozzwald> Xeek: can you check your shorted cap against that schematic?
[20:42] <jancoow> hi pksato
[20:43] <Xeek> mozzwald: i can't deterine which cap it is, it's not marked
[20:43] <jancoow> i've worked out the IR rotary encoder. It acts like a normal rotary encoder (like you descirbed in the scrollwheel with 2 switched) but transistors instead. Connected the common to the 3.3, and used on input A and B the internal pull down resistor and it works
[20:43] <Xeek> determine*
[20:44] <jancoow> pksato: https://jancokock.me/f/98f11 schematic
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[20:46] <Xeek> mozzwald: i suspect either C64 or C65
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[20:55] <Lyka> i can't find the gpio_keys_device.ko file
[20:55] <Lyka> st not there
[20:55] <Lyka> *it's not present
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[20:58] <Lyka> i want to get the gpio keyboard working
[20:58] <Lyka> but the gpio_keys_device.ko file is not present
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[20:59] <Lyka> it's like they stopped including it
[20:59] <jancoow> Lyka: https://github.com/mwagner/rpi-build-test/blob/master/modules/3.12.26%2B/extra/gpio_keys_device.ko
[21:00] <Lyka> jancoow: i have kernel 4.1.15+
[21:00] <jancoow> ah
[21:00] <jancoow> maybe indeed removed
[21:00] <Lyka> why?
[21:00] <jancoow> no idea, sorry
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[21:01] <Lyka> it's like it's just disappearing
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[21:02] <Lyka> the support for gpio keyboards
[21:02] <Lyka> i mean, why wouldn't "they" want it there?
[21:03] <Lyka> gpio_keys.ko is there
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[21:05] <Lyka> bbiab
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[21:54] <MarkusDBX> Hi all, I'm looking for a remote out of band access solution for the rpi, any ideas?
[21:55] <MarkusDBX> like a remote reset over gprs or something
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[21:59] <jancoow> like sending a sms to reset?
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[22:08] <MarkusDBX> jancoow: yeah something like that
[22:09] <MarkusDBX> jancoow: or even better terminal server (console) via gprs
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[22:13] <MarkusDBX> I searched and there seems to be a few gprs/gsm addon cards available.
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[22:41] <kappa1> hi
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[22:42] <kappa1> can I control the lights of my room with rasperrPI?
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[22:42] <trix`G> hello
[22:42] <mrBear> Hi kappal
[22:42] <mrBear> Kappal: Yes, I do.
[22:43] <kappa1> mrBear: interesting
[22:43] <mrBear> Kappal: I use an RFXcom with a Raspberry pi and Domoticz
[22:43] <mrBear> Kappal: http://www.rfxcom.com/epages/78165469.sf/nl_NL/?ObjectPath=/Shops/78165469/Categories/Transceivers
[22:44] <Lyka|Phone> how do I contact the kernel developers for the rpi?
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[22:44] <kappa1> mrBear: interesting. What other things do you control besides lights?
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[22:45] <mrBear> kappal. I do not control anything else. I meassure the in and out temp plus inner moisture
[22:46] <clickklack> I am trying to run quakespasm on my raspberry pi 2. I have compiled it and the quake files are present. But when I try and run it I get "QUAKE ERROR: Couldn't set video mode"
[22:46] <mrBear> Lyka: IMHO, isnt that channel #raspbian?
[22:46] <Lyka|Phone> I did not know
[22:46] <Lyka|Phone> freenode?
[22:46] <mrBear> Lyka: Not me either, a guess.
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[22:46] <mrBear> Lyka: I did a search for raspberrypi and found the channel
[22:47] <Lyka|Phone> i'll check later
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[22:47] <Lyka|Phone> I have to go afk
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[22:47] <Lyka|Phone> thank you
[22:47] <mrBear> Lyka Yes, go for channel #raspbian
[22:47] <mrBear> You are welcome
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[22:49] <trix`G> clickklack: what is "quakespasm"? Is that a port of original Quake?
[22:49] <kappa1> mrBear: that's the most advanced thing you did with rPi? controlling the lights
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[22:50] <mrBear> kappal: Well, yes. But I have made a couple of programs that runs all the time on my RPi.
[22:51] <clickklack> It's a custom engine for quake 1.
[22:51] <mrBear> One is for remind me if someone has a birthday. Sends a mail then. The other thing is that I scrape a webpage of data.
[22:51] <clickklack> It's in the raspbian repos, and the binaries from there gave me the same error
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[22:53] <kappa1> I see
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[22:53] <trix`G> clickklack: Ahh, do you know if it supports GLES? I know for Quake 1 the retropie community used Darkplaces engine and later Tyrquake
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[22:53] <trix`G> tyrquake I have now on my rpi2 and it works flawlessly
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[22:54] <mrBear> kappal: So most advanced. Domoticz is a ready made program that you can use. My programs I have wrote myself. Not very advanced, but very educational for me. =)
[22:54] <mrBear> kappal: And advanced for me. ;)
[22:54] <trix`G> and I'm currently compiling Xonotic with Darkplaces and GLES support to see if I can get that working. If Darkplaces works, Quake Nexuiz Xonotic and many other games are then available
[22:55] <trix`G> oh he left =/
[22:55] <clickklack> I joined again
[22:56] <clickklack> I'm a bit of an irc noob
[22:56] <clickklack> so I accidentally left D:
[22:56] <mrBear> clickklack: Welcome back. ;)
[22:58] <clickklack> Quakespasm does not have GLES support afaik
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[23:03] <kappa1> mrBear: and do you have any other ideas of projects that you'd like to accomplish?
[23:03] <mrBear> kappal: Well, I will put more work on the program that scrapes the internet page.
[23:04] <mrBear> kappal: And your self? What do you do with your pi?
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[23:04] <kappa1> nothing, just starting... but I want to build something cool. If possible with the collaboration of someone here :P
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[23:05] <mrBear> kappal: I just get in here. =) But the hardest thing is to come up with something to do.
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[23:13] <mrBear> kappal: do you do python?
[23:14] <kappa1> mrBear: yes
[23:14] <kappa1> I was checking hackaday website to get some inspiration
[23:15] <mrBear> kappal: Ok, is it good?
[23:15] <kappa1> mrBear: what do you think of using rPi to control a drone?
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[23:15] <kappa1> building a drone
[23:16] <mrBear> kappal: Im novice there. I think it is unnecesary to use a pi for that. It has a complete operation system. I should vote for a arduino.
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[23:17] <kappa1> I see
[23:18] <mrBear> kappal: What do you think?
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[23:21] <kappa1> I'm not very familiarized with arduino
[23:22] <mrBear> kappal: It is a system that do not have an operation system. Just an init part and a loop-part. Starts up much faster.
[23:22] <jancoow> hd
[23:22] <jancoow> he
[23:22] <jancoow> i did build a rpi quadcoptter :)
[23:22] <kappa1> sounds good yes
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[23:22] <kappa1> but what kind of stuff in specific
[23:23] <mrBear> jancoow: I guess it is possible. But I should vote for a arduino derivate. =)
[23:23] <jancoow> i would recommend also a arduino btw
[23:23] <jancoow> mrBear: ;)
[23:23] <mrBear> Hehe. =)
[23:23] <jancoow> rpi doesn't have a real time os
[23:24] <jancoow> one kernel interuption and your quadcopter could be falling down
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[23:25] <kappa1> what about something to help optimize overall energy consumption in a house?
[23:26] <kappa1> and gather statistics regarding what stuff is wasting more energy
[23:26] <mrBear> kappal. That is totally doable
[23:27] <kappa1> but you got to have some sensors on every socket of the house or sth like that
[23:27] <mrBear> kappal: Yes, some energymeter.
[23:28] <jancoow> i'm building a dj controller atm
[23:28] <jancoow> still strugling with these ir rotary encoders grrrr
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[23:30] <mrBear> jancoow: With RPi?
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[23:33] <mrBear> kappal: http://www.clasohlson.com/se/Tradlos-sandare/Pr363982000
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[23:34] <jancoow> yes
[23:34] <mrBear> Lyka: Did you found help?
[23:35] <Lyka> no, but i ate dinner and almost vomited
[23:35] <mrBear> Jancoow: Will you do some GUI in raspbian, or why use a rasppi?
[23:35] <Lyka> going to ask now
[23:35] <mrBear> Lyka: Im throwing an interest granade in your direction. ;)
[23:35] <jancoow> midi over udp packages for mixxx
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[23:36] <mrBear> jancoow: Sounds interesting and complex. =)
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[23:36] <jancoow> using a old hard drive for spinning deck (is a 3 fase brushless dc motor) and wanna use a ir optical rotary encoder for checking speed and detect scratching
[23:37] <jancoow> well, scratching enables when you touch the blade (capative touch)
[23:37] <Lyka> just asked in #raspbian
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[23:40] <kappa1> mrBear: 149EUR? that's expensive
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[23:40] <jancoow> kappa1: i used the energy meter of my house, this is a "smart meter" and has actualy a serial port on it
[23:41] <jancoow> well, inverted
[23:41] <JakeSays> Xark: ping
[23:41] <Lyka> mrBear: it didn't go off apparently
[23:42] <mrBear> kappal: 149 kronor. =) about 15 euro.
[23:42] <kappa1> but it's not cheap either
[23:42] <mrBear> Lyka. No, you was away, I know. But you said you almost vomited. Very interesting. ;)
[23:43] <mrBear> Lyka: I think it is.
[23:43] <Lyka> i ate too much
[23:43] <kappa1> when someone rings your door bell and no one answers, what about having rpi to answer the door
[23:43] <kappa1> hummm
[23:44] <Lyka> um...i don't want my rpi letting people in
[23:44] * shantorn (~shantorn@216-161-88-215.ptld.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
[23:44] <kappa1> just like taking a picture to the person that is behind the door, and send the picture to your phone immediately
[23:45] <kappa1> and it could establish a phone connection between you and the person at your door
[23:45] * Lyka forgot the camera port was there
[23:45] <jancoow> i already do that :D
[23:45] <Lyka> so a high-tech peephole
[23:45] <jancoow> and i can iritate my mom because i can remotly ring the bell :)
[23:45] <kappa1> jancoow: and it talks with people? like emitting a record "Who is this?"
[23:45] <Lyka> jancoow: guess you don't have a dog
[23:46] <jancoow> kappa1: nope only picture
[23:46] * ozzzy only makes things to save money
[23:46] <kappa1> it can then record what the guy says and tell him that no one is around at that time
[23:46] <jancoow> was planning to do a google hangouts call when someone rings so i could see live video and indeed speak
[23:47] <jancoow> haha that's a awesome idea
[23:47] <kappa1> yes, that would be cool
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[23:47] <Xark> JakeSays: Hello.
[23:47] <Lyka> sorry, i sometimes still think of pis as souped-up arduinos
[23:47] <Lyka> i'm new to pis
[23:48] <Lyka> (my dad thinks they *are* arduinos, as i have a few)
[23:48] <ozzzy> I think the smart doorbell answerer with video would cost more than buying a Ring
[23:48] <Lyka> mood ring or 34 carat diamond ring?
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[23:49] <ozzzy> https://ring.com/
[23:49] <Lyka> oh
[23:50] <Lyka> not sure why i said 34 carat
[23:50] <ozzzy> me either... but that's ok
[23:50] <kappa1> interesting
[23:50] <Lyka> it was a random number
[23:50] <ozzzy> big ring
[23:50] <ozzzy> =)
[23:51] <Lyka> and i was thinking of gold
[23:51] <ozzzy> oh
[23:51] <ozzzy> then that would be the one ring
[23:51] <Lyka> i mean gold carats
[23:51] <Lyka> mixing them up
[23:51] * EAgull0ne (~EAgull0ne@unaffiliated/eagull0ne) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[23:51] <Lyka> besides, 34 carat gold is expensive
[23:51] <Berg> 32
[23:52] <Lyka> (24 is the max)
[23:52] <ozzzy> not in Mordor
[23:52] <Berg> are you sure
[23:52] <Lyka> 24 carat is pure gold
[23:52] <ozzzy> Berg, yep... 24 carat is 1000 fine
[23:52] <Berg> what about elven gold
[23:53] <Lyka> less
[23:53] <Lyka> 24 is soft
[23:53] <Berg> are you sure
[23:53] <ozzzy> it's an alloy with mithril
[23:53] <Berg> so thats the one with all teeeht marks?
[23:53] <kappa1> what about something that when you enter your house, you specify your mood, and it adjust light and music according to your mood
[23:53] <Berg> teeth
[23:53] <kappa1> if you are sad it could turn on green and red lights
[23:53] <JakeSays> Xark: hey so i'm going to write some test code to interact with this lcd outside of the ugfx framework. any suggestions, thoughts, etc?
[23:53] <JakeSays> just pickin' your brain a bit
[23:54] <Berg> blue is sad not green
[23:54] <Xark> JakeSays: Should be fairly straightforward once you get the low-level write_command and write_data functions ported.
[23:54] <Lyka> JakeSays: you are in #raspbian, right? i don't want to annoy with a retype so soon there
[23:55] <JakeSays> Xark: so its just as simple as interacting with spi?
[23:55] <Lyka> so i was wondering average response time in that channel
[23:55] <JakeSays> Lyka: i am, but i just joined.
[23:55] <Lyka> oh
[23:55] <Xark> JakeSays: It is SPI + one GPIO to set a command or data.
[23:55] <JakeSays> ah ok
[23:55] <JakeSays> cool
[23:56] <Lyka> the new kernel lacks the ability to do a gppio keyboard
[23:56] <Lyka> because they left out a file
[23:56] <Berg> well i have a 50 dollar jaycar gift card for xmassss what shoulde i buy?
[23:56] * zesterer (~zesterer@host81-159-92-190.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[23:56] <Xark> JakeSays: That is why you see a "9th bit" here https://imgur.com/1koQZ9P
[23:56] <JakeSays> ah ok
[23:57] <Lyka> i want that file
[23:57] <JakeSays> Xark: i'm getting conflicting info on the exact controller used. is there much difference between the 9340 and 9341?
[23:57] <Xark> JakeSays: No
[23:57] <Xark> JakeSays: Maybe the "init blob" is different (but I think not).
[23:58] <JakeSays> ok cool
[23:58] <kappa1> and what about something to water the plants through some canalization system?
[23:58] <Lyka> what is the polite time to wait before retyping an unanswered question in an idle channel with lots of people?
[23:59] <Berg> 4 weeks
[23:59] <Lyka> kappa1: what about canals on other planets?
[23:59] <Lyka> oh, plants
[23:59] <Berg> if they replay Lyka they will flag your name so you should hear a sound

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