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[19:42] <gordonDrogon> my basic interpreter has 2 complete sections for 16-bit vs 32 bit graphics - the Pi is only 16-bit ...
[19:44] <JakeSays> interesting. the ili9341 driver supports 565
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[19:46] <jancoow> the moment when you need 20 analog input ports
[19:46] <jancoow> someone knows a good i2c expension board?
[19:46] <dreamon> I would like to start my programm as root at boot time. where can I add it?
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[19:46] <gordonDrogon> jancoow, 3 x 8's ...
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[19:46] <gordonDrogon> mcp3008 ...
[19:47] <gordonDrogon> hm. that's spi - tricky, but not impossible to hook up to the Pi.
[19:47] <jancoow> spi is fine too :)
[19:48] <jancoow> 10bit resolution is fine for simple pot meters
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[19:51] <jancoow> gordonDrogon: what do you think of this one? https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9056
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[20:00] <g0z> hello, I was wondering if anyone could amazon link me to a 3.5mm to composite out cable that is known to work with rpi?
[20:02] <traeak> why wouldn't any old rca out cable work?
[20:03] <g0z> because they don't
[20:03] <zleap> the one from modmypi is something like 1.99 and works
[20:03] <g0z> I'll check it
[20:03] <g0z> thanks
[20:04] <gordonDrogon> jancoow, it's a mux - you still need the ADC.
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[20:19] <heller_> so when you plug off ethernet from rpi, it does not get it back when i plug it back?
[20:20] <jancoow> it does
[20:20] <jancoow> gordonDrogon: oh my bad.
[20:21] <heller_> jancoow: how?
[20:21] <heller_> and when?
[20:21] <t3chguy> heller_: depends how you have it configured
[20:21] <heller_> well how do i have to configure it?
[20:21] <t3chguy> allow-hotplug
[20:21] <heller_> it is
[20:22] <heller_> how long should it take?
[20:22] <t3chguy> instant
[20:23] <heller_> now
[20:24] <heller_> nnnnope
[20:24] <heller_> oh now
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[20:24] <heller_> nice
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[20:25] <gordonDrogon> jancoow, how about 2 of these: http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/adc-i2c-slave
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[20:34] <Guy1524> hey guys, so is it possible to transmit video through ethernet directly into a raspberry pi and have the raspberry pi turn it into hdmi output for a tv?
[20:34] <Guy1524>
[20:34] <Guy1524>
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[20:35] <Guy1524> sorry for the spam, I didn't know it would send a message with nothing
[20:35] <gordonDrogon> Guy1524, what do you think...
[20:35] <t3chguy> its called video streaming, so, sure
[20:35] <gordonDrogon> youtube, vimeo, etc. ...
[20:35] <danieli> "turn it into hdmi"... you could simply stream video with vlc and display it there
[20:35] <danieli> hahaha
[20:35] <Guy1524> yes, but it would not be over a network, one end of the ethernet in a pc, and one end in the raspberry pi
[20:35] <gordonDrogon> that sounds like a network to me.
[20:36] <Guy1524> ok?
[20:36] <Guy1524> so how would I automatically turn take the ethernet input and then output it in hdmi form to a tv?
[20:37] <Guy1524>
[20:37] <t3chguy> use some video streaming protocol
[20:37] <gordonDrogon> or just copy the file.
[20:37] <Guy1524> when I search all I find are adapters
[20:38] <t3chguy> its not a hardware thing
[20:38] <t3chguy> its a software thing
[20:38] <Guy1524> i know
[20:38] <t3chguy> use VLC
[20:38] <t3chguy> I believe it can handle both the streaming and the receiving of video
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[20:38] <Guy1524> ok, so VLC will recognize the ethernet as an input stream?
[20:38] <t3chguy> no
[20:38] <t3chguy> it will see a network
[20:38] <t3chguy> and on the network will be another computer
[20:38] <t3chguy> with VLC
[20:38] <t3chguy> sending the video stream
[20:39] <Guy1524> oh ok
[20:39] <t3chguy> then the raspberry pi can connect to the video stream using VLC
[20:39] <Guy1524> oh ok
[20:39] <Guy1524> thanks
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[20:43] <jancoow> gordonDrogon: that looks nice and very cheap!
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[20:45] <jancoow> until the shippings cost come in.. damn
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[20:48] <gordonDrogon> ah, you're not UK ...
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[20:50] <jancoow> nope, a little country underneath it :)
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[20:54] <H__> that looks to be a great chip. /me writing that down for some next project :)
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[21:04] <Lyka> hi
[21:05] <jancoow> :)
[21:05] <Lyka> got my 128x64 oled working
[21:05] <jancoow> nice!
[21:05] <jancoow> which one
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[21:06] <Lyka> i haven't mentioned it yet
[21:06] <TooLmaN> What is the preferred method for removing the CONSOLE (non-X) screen blanking?
[21:07] <Lyka> i used to know it
[21:08] <TooLmaN> Changing the /etc/kbd/config variables do not seem to affect it.
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[21:08] <Lyka> did you get both?
[21:08] <justgettingup> hello
[21:08] <Lyka> there are two
[21:08] <TooLmaN> I have this working if X is running using xset, but I do not have a solution for console only setups
[21:08] <justgettingup> so ive estimated minimum cost of getting up an running with a pi 2 is about $80?
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[21:09] <t3chguy> justgettingup: how did you get to that
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[21:09] <justgettingup> $35 pi, $10 charger, $6 hdmi cable, $10 sdcard, $10 case
[21:09] <TooLmaN> justgettingup: that's close. power, SD card, USB cable, etc.
[21:09] <justgettingup> whatver that ads up to
[21:09] <t3chguy> Case isn't required
[21:09] <t3chguy> nor is a HDMI Cable
[21:09] <justgettingup> well this is a gift
[21:09] <t3chguy> and the RPi 2 has no battery, so the Charger isn't a charger, more a PSU
[21:10] <Lyka> hdmi cable helps
[21:10] <t3chguy> Lyka: depends
[21:10] <justgettingup> im trying to replicate this setup
[21:10] <t3chguy> if you want to deploy it in a project, then it probably won't
[21:10] <Lyka> hard for a new user to configure it non-x
[21:10] <t3chguy> justgettingup: why don't you go for the $5 Pi Zero?
[21:10] <justgettingup> http://us.kano.me/products/kano-kit
[21:11] <justgettingup> its $99 but they put on $20 shipping
[21:11] <Lyka> the zero is always sold out, t3chguy
[21:11] <t3chguy> Lyka: it was in stock today
[21:11] <justgettingup> that speaker is cool though
[21:11] <t3chguy> I bought my 2nd one today
[21:11] <TooLmaN> So does anyone know how to effectively disable console screen blanking?
[21:11] <Lyka> yes, but i don't remember the file names
[21:12] <Lyka> so i can't help
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[21:12] <TooLmaN> Lyka: Thanks, I'll keep digging
[21:12] <Lyka> are you sure it's not the monitor?
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[21:12] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: does @Pimoroni liking this (my) tweet mean that they will slip one into my order from today [https://twitter.com/7t3chguy/status/681533805065322497]
[21:13] <TooLmaN> Yes, I'm sure
[21:13] <TooLmaN> I use this monitor to develop most of my RPI projects
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[21:14] <t3chguy> TooLmaN: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8056/disable-screen-blanking-on-text-console
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[21:14] <Lyka> i'm not able to check at the moment, but ii think it's /etc/config/kbd and there are two variables, blanking and monitor powerdown kbd
[21:15] <Lyka> ignore the last kbd
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[21:16] <justgettingup> does this look like a decent kit?
[21:16] <justgettingup> http://us.kano.me/products/kano-kit
[21:16] <Lyka> TooLmaN: hope that helps
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[21:16] <Lyka> justgettingup: go to amazon, get one of their $60 kits
[21:16] <TooLmaN> t3chguy: That looks familiar. I applied that and I'll wait to see that happens. Thanks
[21:16] <justgettingup> where?
[21:16] <Lyka> TooLmaN: remember to reboot
[21:16] <justgettingup> oh you mean a regular pi
[21:17] <TooLmaN> Lyka: The kbd/config changes are not working on the 4.x kernel now it seems
[21:17] <Lyka> pi 2b
[21:17] <justgettingup> yeah your right
[21:17] <Lyka> i got it working...
[21:17] <justgettingup> id like a speaker/case lid combo thats very clever
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[21:17] <justgettingup> does the audio out power a regular toy speaker?
[21:17] <TooLmaN> This is a fresh install of the minimal raspbian image
[21:18] <Lyka> why do you want a less powerful zero 5o start out with? i do not understand
[21:18] <Lyka> *to
[21:19] <TooLmaN> justgettingup: the audio output is speaker level, not line level
[21:19] <TooLmaN> so it will power a small speaker but will require boosting for more sound
[21:19] <TooLmaN> Or powered speakers
[21:20] <justgettingup> http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Running-adapter--6ft-Ethernet-Heatsink/dp/B013TG5S44/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1451333936&sr=8-6&keywords=pi+2
[21:20] <justgettingup> that looks good. not sure what the phone cables are good for
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[21:20] <t3chguy> Lyka: because it is unique in many ways
[21:21] <t3chguy> It can act as an OTG Host or Slave and is tiny
[21:22] <exonormal> justgettingup: that's not a phone cable, it's an ethernet cable
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[21:23] <Lyka> t3chguy: isn't a 2b more powerful?
[21:23] <t3chguy> Lol
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[21:23] <justgettingup> Lyka yes
[21:23] <t3chguy> Lyka: yes, but the raspberry pi has many uses that the zero is better for
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[21:23] <t3chguy> The only thing the 2b is better for is as a regular computer
[21:24] <justgettingup> so is it true you can plug in the zero in a laptop usb and it will get power and wifi and usb all for free now
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[21:24] <Lyka> huh?
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[21:26] <Lyka> don't you have to solder stuff onto the zero?
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[21:26] <Lyka> i mean, like headers"
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[21:28] <justgettingup> apparently with a kernal update on the zero you can plug it into usb from laptop and it should get everything
[21:28] <Lyka> everything?
[21:28] <exonormal> yes, Lyka... you can solder anything on that board as you like
[21:28] <justgettingup> i havent tried it yet but that would mean the zero would be like a usb drive with a full linux on it
[21:29] <Lyka> exonormal: i mean that the headers don't come attached
[21:29] <exonormal> yes
[21:30] <exonormal> you can solder them on for your convenience
[21:30] <Mr_Sheesh> so I could get a 60-port powered USB hub & shazam I have a Pi0 cluster?
[21:30] <TooLmaN> The Pi Zero is a major time saver for certain projects. I have painfully removed jacks and such from a couple of B+
[21:31] <Mr_Sheesh> cost saver too
[21:31] <Mr_Sheesh> only its unobtanium for a lil while yet
[21:31] <TooLmaN> yeah, I guess those jacks are expensive. lol
[21:31] <justgettingup> 60 port lol
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[21:32] <Lyka> i'm going afk before i say something realy stupid
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[21:33] <TooLmaN> t3chguy: The setterm command worked. Thanks
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[21:39] <Guy1524> so about the ethernet video thing, it didn't work, whenever I tried to stream the video from the windows pc, it crashed vlc
[21:39] <justgettingup> im building an os for toddlers
[21:39] <justgettingup> any cute ideas for names?
[21:42] <traeak> toddos :-p
[21:42] <justgettingup> todlio
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[21:42] <justgettingup> the os will consist of a large keyboard they can bang on and it makes sounds and pictures
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[22:00] <TheLostAdmin> "A" is for Analog-to-Digital Converter. Can you say ADC?
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[22:03] <frikinz> Hi. I had a pi 2 years ago and remembered having problems under high network load. I had kernel messages but I can't remember which ones (smc something?). Anyone knows what I'm talking about or if its still there?
[22:03] <jancoow> yes?
[22:04] <TheLostAdmin> frikinz, I don't believe there's been any re-design of the Pi2. So, unless your issues were software related or just a bad board, I would expect the problem is still there.
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[22:06] <frikinz> TheLostAdmin: yes i suspect its a problem in the soc and at the time was confirmed by other people running network heavy process like tor or using the pi as a network gateway
[22:07] * zeeshan is now known as never_buy_a_suba
[22:07] <TheLostAdmin> I would be suspicious of the USB bus before the SOC. The USB2 bus is a bottleneck for through put.
[22:07] * never_buy_a_suba is now known as neverbuya_subaru
[22:07] <TheLostAdmin> throughput?
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[22:09] <frikinz> Yes your probably right either the bus or the soc not handling errors in high throughput
[22:12] <frikinz> Is anyone running tor on his raspberrypi?
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[22:23] <cluelessperson> I'm trying to use the raspberry pi to build an ARMHS arch deb package, but I can't seem to output the deb correctly
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[22:27] <_jamesl> How to interface a ps2 controller to raspberry pi GPIO pins? I find many tutorials online, but they are all for retropie or similar. I just want to interface the buttons to control an Arduino
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[22:43] <t3chguy> justgettingup: the Zero can be an OTG Device
[22:44] <t3chguy> you can compile and configure kernel modules to have it share network from the USB Host its plugged into
[22:44] <t3chguy> and no justgettingup, you won't get video etc
[22:44] <t3chguy> but you can get network, serial, midi etc
[22:45] <justgettingup> so in other words you can get online with it?
[22:45] <t3chguy> through USB, sure
[22:45] <t3chguy> you can also get an SPI Ethernet port for it
[22:45] <t3chguy> which is what I do
[22:45] <t3chguy> its faster than Ethernet over OTG in my tests
[22:46] <t3chguy> enc28j60 is what I use
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[22:47] <justgettingup> so i can plug in my zero with a micro usb to my laptop port and i can get it online finally?
[22:47] <t3chguy> it can basically do the same things as an Android phone plugged into a PC (Except MHL)
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[22:47] <JakeSays> its weird. ordered a couple of anniversary presents for my wife from amazon. not sure why, but a raspberry pi2 somehow got in to the order!
[22:48] <t3chguy> lol
[22:48] <t3chguy> justgettingup: You can, but its not as easy as plugging it in
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[22:48] <t3chguy> you have to install a new kernel on the Zero, enable all the modules
[22:48] <t3chguy> manually set IPs, enable IP Sharing on the Host
[22:48] <t3chguy> ICS on the Host, not IP Sharing*
[22:48] <t3chguy> I had it running before
[22:50] <justgettingup> but once you do it you can have an image for any zero right?
[22:50] <justgettingup> so someone just needs to make that img
[22:50] <justgettingup> and have the wifi config stuff on the boot directory
[22:50] <t3chguy> configuration-wise?
[22:50] <t3chguy> erm
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[22:50] <t3chguy> the Zero doesn't get the Wifi capabilities
[22:50] <t3chguy> it just has Ethernet-level shared network
[22:51] <justgettingup> what does that mean? it leaches off the latop connection
[22:51] <t3chguy> yes
[22:51] <justgettingup> thats perfectly fine
[22:51] <t3chguy> the laptop has to handle passing the internet over USB
[22:51] <t3chguy> the Zero doesn't know or care how
[22:51] <justgettingup> is there a webpage or video on this?
[22:52] <t3chguy> https://learn.adafruit.com/turning-your-raspberry-pi-zero-into-a-usb-gadget?view=all
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[22:52] <justgettingup> make a vid
[22:52] <justgettingup> much views
[22:54] <t3chguy> make a video of me typing commands, no thanks
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[22:55] <jridder> Hello, does anyone know what the maximum memory you can have available on the pi zero?
[22:56] <t3chguy> jridder: as in Storage Memory?
[22:56] <t3chguy> the RAM is non-upgradable, so thats at 512MB
[22:56] <jridder> Thanks, I mean split between video and OS.
[22:57] <t3chguy> thats configurable
[22:57] <jridder> can you set video to 0?
[22:57] <t3chguy> no
[22:57] <t3chguy> actually
[22:57] <t3chguy> if you disable the GPU entirely, maybe
[22:57] <t3chguy> but then it'd be truly headless
[22:58] <jridder> I have mine headless and was wondering how low you could go on video memory. I guess 16mb it is.
[22:59] <brianx> interesting thought. if you figure out how to disable the GPU after boot and use all ram for the OS, please let us know here.
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[23:00] <t3chguy> from a quick google search
[23:00] <t3chguy> it doesn't seem possible
[23:00] <t3chguy> someone claimed that the GPU essentially boots the Pi
[23:00] <t3chguy> "At one level, the GPU (in combination with config.txt) has a similar job to your desktop computer's BIOS. At another level, it has many other jobs too ;)"
[23:01] <jridder> I think I kind of remember reading that as well someplace else on the boot sequence.
[23:02] <vok`> Hi, I just loaded Jessie to an SD card and my TV says "Resolution not supported"
[23:03] <vok`> The boot screen is as normal.
[23:03] <vok`> Can I stop X from loading on boot?
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[23:03] <jancoow> t3chguy: wow that kernel mod is really cool. Didnt know that that was possible :)
[23:04] <jridder> vok`: yes if you can SSH into the device and run raspi-config
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[23:04] <trix`G> hello
[23:04] <trix`G> has anyone gotten Nexuiz or Xonotic to work smoothly on their rpi?
[23:04] <jancoow> hello, it's me
[23:04] <vok`> jridder, is ssh installed by default?
[23:05] <jridder> yes
[23:05] <trix`G> I've been working on it for three days now and I can get Nexuiz to run smooth on the rpi finally but only a 1.5 year old version of it on an abandoned 2 year old modified darkplaces binary that has no source released
[23:05] <vok`> jridder, I just scanned for it with nmap and it's not there.
[23:06] <jridder> how is it connected to your network?
[23:06] <trix`G> I'm just wondering if I might be reinventing the wheel here or if anyone else has tried this
[23:06] <sisel4> vok`: ctrl+alf+f2 doesnt work?
[23:07] <vok`> sisel4, ah I didn't think of that. Thanks!
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[23:07] <vok`> sisel4, do you know how I can change the resolution so it works with my TV?
[23:09] <t3chguy> jancoow: its basic Linux
[23:09] <t3chguy> all Android phones have that module installed
[23:09] <t3chguy> when you plug it into a PC you can enable g_mass_storage, g_serial (adb?) and g_ether
[23:10] <jancoow> yeah
[23:10] <jancoow> but with old raspberry pi's it wasn't possible
[23:10] <jancoow> and on which port is it actually? the otg port or charge port?
[23:10] <t3chguy> jancoow: thats because they didn't have the hardware for it
[23:10] <t3chguy> the OTG Port
[23:10] <jancoow> it wasn't connected
[23:10] <t3chguy> well, yes
[23:10] <jridder> vok`, http://www.raspians.com/Knowledgebase/raspberry-pi-configuration-file/ read down to hdmi_mode
[23:10] <t3chguy> the port is hardware too xD
[23:11] <jancoow> yeah i mean
[23:11] <jancoow> on the old rpi was the otg pin not connected to the charge port
[23:11] <t3chguy> which is silly
[23:11] <t3chguy> I mean, why isn't it
[23:11] <jancoow> indeed
[23:11] <t3chguy> like what loss is there
[23:11] <sisel4> jridder: isn't it just a xorg issue? he has screen in console.
[23:11] <jancoow> i though the same
[23:11] <jancoow> btw i added a screen https://jancokock.me/f/49df3/49df3
[23:11] <t3chguy> means you could use it as a neat SD Card reader using g_mass_storage xD
[23:11] <t3chguy> that definitely looks neat jancoow
[23:12] <t3chguy> what sort of display is that
[23:12] <jridder> I used to have a weird monitor and didn't like certain resolutions, I always had to force it.
[23:12] <jancoow> it doesn't look neat, i will design a 3d printed cover soon :)
[23:12] <t3chguy> not neat as in tidy
[23:12] <t3chguy> neat as in cool
[23:12] <jancoow> oh
[23:13] <t3chguy> running on your Zero I see
[23:13] <t3chguy> I will soon have a new Zero
[23:13] <t3chguy> in 36 hours
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[23:13] <jancoow> LOL
[23:13] <t3chguy> my second
[23:13] <jancoow> and its a mplay 202 screen
[23:13] <jancoow> nice!
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[23:18] <knob> Hey guys... throwing this out there... I tried to setup "RetroPie". All is good, except no sound coming from the HDMI tv. I followed this link, and added htmi_drive = 2 to /boot/config.txt https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroPie/comments/3evgyi/retropie_30_no_sound/
[23:18] <knob> Yet still no sound... any ideas what I could do to troubleshoot it?
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[23:20] <t3chguy> jancoow: I'll have to take a picture like this with both of them looking puny on my hand haha :: https://goo.gl/photos/ghhk2cvKvAJXGEKv9
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[23:22] <jancoow> lololo
[23:22] <jancoow> yeah
[23:22] <jancoow> i LOVE them
[23:24] <vok`> jridder, sisel4, thank you both.
[23:25] <jridder> is it working now?
[23:25] <vok`> jridder, I didn't end up doing the HDMI thing for X. I don't need it.
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[23:26] <vok`> jridder, I figured out how to setup WIFI via the commandline.
[23:26] <vok`> jridder, but overall it's working now. Even SSH.
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[23:27] <sisel4> vok`: I've never used xorg on my rpi :D
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[23:29] <vok`> sisel4, wow. I wish I could say that. :)
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[23:35] <jancoow> i've to go
[23:35] <jancoow> gn!
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