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IRC Log for 2015-12-30

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[0:00] <fluffet> Do I need a 3.3v -> 5v logic shifter?
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[0:01] <ThePendulum> fluffet: it'll work without, but it doesn't hurt to put one in
[0:01] <fluffet> then that's a no? :D
[0:01] <ThePendulum> fluffet: I wouldn't worry about it before you're planning on soldering it all together
[0:01] <ThePendulum> just see if they work without
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[0:02] <ThePendulum> I grabbed 2 but only because my grid didn't work, turned out it had nothing to do with it
[0:02] <fluffet> for the strip, if i don't have a solderer, how do i plug the first one in?
[0:02] <ThePendulum> but now I have them I'll leave them in
[0:02] <fluffet> oh okay
[0:02] <ThePendulum> fluffet: it should come with a plug that you can stick breadboard wires in
[0:02] <ThePendulum> but that's only for testing really
[0:02] <fluffet> i dont have a breadboard or wires
[0:02] <ThePendulum> if you want to put it up I'd get soldering iron :P
[0:02] <ThePendulum> fluffet: well you need something to hook everything up
[0:03] <ThePendulum> you can twist wires together but that's less than ideal
[0:03] <ThePendulum> fluffet: just grab a small breadboard and some female-female and male-male breadboard wires from the shop you grab the strip from
[0:03] <fluffet> allright
[0:03] <ThePendulum> if they have a logic level shifter, they're only $1 or so, might as well grab one
[0:03] <ThePendulum> if they don't, don't worry
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[0:06] <ThePendulum> ugh I recorded a 4k video of my LED strip
[0:06] <ThePendulum> but now it's going to take a year for youtube to pick that up
[0:06] <ThePendulum> it's 360p on there
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[0:07] <ThePendulum> LED grid I should say
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[0:08] <fluffet> do you need a breakout board?
[0:08] <ThePendulum> fluffet: only to solder it together for production use :P
[0:08] <ThePendulum> you use the breadboard for development
[0:08] <fluffet> what is this Perma-Proto stuff then?
[0:08] <fluffet> from Adafruit
[0:09] <ThePendulum> afaik that's just a PCB-style breadboard
[0:09] <ThePendulum> I guess you could use one of those to solder things together
[0:09] <ThePendulum> but they're quite expensive I think
[0:10] <ThePendulum> I'm not sure what people usually use to finalize their projects
[0:10] <ThePendulum> how they solder it together nicely
[0:10] <ThePendulum> I should know, my dad builds guitar amplifiers
[0:11] <yoosi> Perma-Proto is a breadboard style perfboard
[0:12] <yoosi> so it's easier to translate your prototype to a soldered project
[0:12] <ThePendulum> 3,50eu for a small one though
[0:12] <ThePendulum> jesus
[0:12] <yoosi> I've never used them. I'm too cheap to justify the cost. I had a good friend that was a big supporter of Adafruit and SparkFun
[0:13] <yoosi> He made good money and bought tons of stuff like that
[0:13] <ThePendulum> Yeah I mean it doesn't take me all that long to earn one, but still
[0:13] <ThePendulum> you can get a huge sheet of perfboard for that price
[0:13] * Xark notes many other vendors have "perma-proto" boards (but Adafruit ones are very nice and high quality).
[0:14] <ThePendulum> I might grab one
[0:14] <ThePendulum> I wish they had smaller ones
[0:14] <Xark> E.g., https://www.tindie.com/products/dhaillant/breadboard-pcb
[0:15] <ThePendulum> their smallest is bigger than my breadboard
[0:15] <ThePendulum> I should grab one of those once I got this to work
[0:16] <Xark> ThePendulum: From Adafruit? They have a bunch of sizes...(from ones that fit in mint tin for full breadboard size).
[0:16] <ThePendulum> https://www.kiwi-electronics.nl/adafruit-perma-proto-klein?search=perfboard
[0:16] <ThePendulum> looing at this one
[0:16] <ThePendulum> well it's not too big all together
[0:17] <ThePendulum> my breadboard doesn't have dedicated power lanes
[0:17] <Xark> ThePendulum: Yeah. Pretty much the same as the tinyiest breadboards (a few holes shorter, but has bus lines - so a wash).
[0:17] <fluffet> i found a breadboard and some cables in one of my roomies' closet
[0:17] <fluffet> i also found 50(?) 7 segment displays
[0:17] <ThePendulum> ~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTlCdBj8umU
[0:17] <ThePendulum> oops
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[0:17] <ThePendulum> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTlCdBj8umU
[0:18] * Xark got a bunch of free Adafruit perma-proto boards as they tend to give one away for orders over $50 (or something like that).
[0:18] <ThePendulum> surely this is not the animation that's supposed to be strandtest.py? :P
[0:18] <ThePendulum> fluffet: 50 damn
[0:18] <ThePendulum> I'd have fun with that
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[0:18] <fluffet> what can you do with them?
[0:18] <ThePendulum> hmm the 4k looks washed out
[0:18] <ThePendulum> fluffet: rofl probably nothing useful
[0:18] <ThePendulum> actually
[0:18] <ThePendulum> no, nothing useful
[0:18] <ThePendulum> well they have 7 segments each so you could build a display
[0:19] <ThePendulum> hmm the video looks a bit washed out
[0:19] <fluffet> well i can't multiplex
[0:19] <fluffet> so i don't have enough gpios to hook up multiple
[0:19] <Xark> fluffet: Cool you can build one of these http://www.skot9000.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/dg10.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP6xWrKVqo4) :)
[0:20] <fluffet> haha yeah that's a lot more than 50
[0:20] <ThePendulum> Xark: that's what I had in mind, haha
[0:20] <ThePendulum> but a bit smaller indeed
[0:20] <ThePendulum> 7*7
[0:20] <t3chguy> fluffet: ThePendulum : https://goo.gl/photos/Xry2ojNBeeG9j2YT6
[0:20] <ThePendulum> what's that
[0:20] <ThePendulum> looks cool in the dark :D
[0:21] <fluffet> looks cool man, but vertical video?!
[0:21] <ThePendulum> ^
[0:21] <ThePendulum> here am I with a 4K horizontal video
[0:21] <ThePendulum> and you give us a 240p vertical one :P
[0:21] <t3chguy> That's just Google being slow at processing it
[0:21] <t3chguy> The source on my phone is 4k
[0:22] <ThePendulum> :P
[0:22] <ThePendulum> I had the same with youtube just now
[0:22] <ThePendulum> I don't know why it's so washed out
[0:22] * Xark hopes he doesn't hurt himself rotating 4K TV to vertical...
[0:22] <ThePendulum> it doesn't appear washed out while filming
[0:22] <ThePendulum> but playing back on my phone it's already washed out after saving it
[0:23] <t3chguy> overexposure?
[0:23] <ThePendulum> in the dark?
[0:23] <ThePendulum> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTlCdBj8umU
[0:23] <ThePendulum> look at the desk
[0:23] <fluffet> i could find 3 Female to female and about 50 male to male cables
[0:23] <fluffet> do i need 4?
[0:23] <ThePendulum> it's all washed out
[0:23] <ThePendulum> fluffet: only 3?
[0:23] <fluffet> yep
[0:23] <ThePendulum> fluffet: they usually come in a bundle of at least 10
[0:24] <JakeSays> i installed jessie-lite, but now i need X. what do i need to install to get it?
[0:24] <ThePendulum> well the male to males are the most important but the females would certainly help
[0:24] <fluffet> probably. but we used this for a project once and i found everything scattered at the bottom of a box
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[0:24] <ThePendulum> fluffet: the pinout on your Pi is male so you need females for that first of all
[0:24] <fluffet> but i could get a pack of f-f i guess
[0:24] <fluffet> yeah
[0:24] <ThePendulum> I have a ribbon cabble with female ends
[0:24] <ThePendulum> oh you got them there
[0:24] <ThePendulum> thought you only found 3 in the store
[0:24] <fluffet> yes
[0:24] <ThePendulum> it did sound peculiar
[0:24] <fluffet> but i am a student so i dont want to buy shit i dont need :D
[0:24] <t3chguy> ThePendulum: definitely an interesting pattern xD
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[0:25] <ThePendulum> t3chguy: yeah it doesn't look like it's being controlled right rofl
[0:25] <t3chguy> Haha
[0:25] <ThePendulum> bit too fun fair
[0:25] <fluffet> which cable length is optimal?
[0:25] <fluffet> 150mm?
[0:25] <t3chguy> The shorter the better adafruit say
[0:25] <ThePendulum> sounds about right
[0:25] <ThePendulum> hmm true dat
[0:26] <ThePendulum> 15cm already isn't all that much though
[0:26] <fluffet> well they only sell packs of 40
[0:26] <fluffet> i can buy 75mm, 150mm or 300mm
[0:26] <ThePendulum> I'd go with 150mm
[0:26] <ThePendulum> 75mm is annoyingly short
[0:26] <ThePendulum> although most of the ones I'm using are 75mm I think
[0:27] <fluffet> well whatever this breadboard is huge
[0:27] <ThePendulum> yeah I have an absolutely tiny breadboard
[0:27] <ThePendulum> https://www.kiwi-electronics.nl/breadboard-170pins-groen
[0:27] <ThePendulum> cute innit
[0:28] <t3chguy> I use 830pt and 400pt clear breadboards exclusively
[0:29] <t3chguy> Though I have a bunch of those 170pt on order
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[0:40] <ThePendulum> I should get a proper big breadboard
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[0:44] <ThePendulum> does anyone have the neopixel library installed and a strip hooked up?
[0:44] <ThePendulum> I'm curious what this animation is supposed to look like
[0:44] <ThePendulum> it seems to completely ignore the LED count I supply it
[0:45] <ThePendulum> actually it's just incredibly slow
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[0:47] <ThePendulum> only if it's 1 it actually only controls 1
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[0:50] <ThePendulum> aaand the filesystem is read only again
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[0:55] <ThePendulum> I just burnt my fingers on my breadboard
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[0:55] <ThePendulum> I should probably switch gauge
[0:57] <Lep2> I have a 16 relay card for my pi, i am using the pi 5V to power it, should i use an external 5V? would that be better
[0:58] <Lep2> it is for garage doors, velux windows
[1:00] <Viper168> relays can require a bit of power to work properly, might be wise to externally power it even if you can technically get it working without
[1:01] <ThePendulum> I wonder if the wires getting hot implies a short circuit
[1:02] <ThePendulum> or whether it's just the fact there's 50W running through 22 gauge wire, lol
[1:02] <Berg> Lep2: im usaingt external 5v power for mjy 8 relay card
[1:02] <ThePendulum> time for some sleep
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[1:06] <Lep2> how many A is the external Berg ?
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[1:07] <Lep2> i found a 300 mah 5V one, that should be good?
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[1:08] <Lep2> for 1 card of 16 relays
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[1:48] <seaking> hello :) me again.. i was wondering if one of you could tell me what this error output from Remmina (vnc) means: SSH password authentication failed: Access denied. Authentication that can continue: publickey,password
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[1:48] <Lep2> What power suply do you guys use for the pi?
[1:49] <Lep2> I use a samsung 2.1 A charger
[1:49] <fluffet> same
[1:49] <fluffet> seaking: your username/password doesnt work?
[1:49] <seaking> check the cable Lep2
[1:50] <seaking> does the username for ssh auth need to be host or guest?
[1:50] <seaking> local/pi
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[1:52] <seaking> ok, so i changed my username for ssh auth to "pi" and now i am wondering what this means :D "Failed to bind on local port."
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[1:54] <seaking> fluffet, i changed my username to pi (i have had my username of my local user)
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[1:56] <tommy``> hi
[1:56] <tommy``> which is the best portable monitor for pi2 ?
[1:57] <seaking> hi tommy`` i am trying to use a vnc, maybe that could be a good solution for you as well, it is cheap (=0$) :)
[1:57] <exonormal> a laptop
[1:58] <tommy``> seaking i want something little to avoid laptop
[1:58] <seaking> exonormal, do you mean with hdmi? because that could be pretty awesome.. :P
[1:58] <exonormal> yes
[1:58] <seaking> k
[1:58] <tommy``> i want to do wardriving :D
[1:59] <seaking> exonormal, so.. you could with hdmi control the pi?
[1:59] <exonormal> there is a key to switch between the lappy and the pi
[2:00] <seaking> bbl
[2:00] <exonormal> prolly a Fn and another F key to switch between
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[2:00] <seaking> exonormal, that sounds awesome, do you have a link where one can read more about it?
[2:00] <tommy``> which are most good project to test on pi2 ?
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[2:02] <seaking> tommy`` https://www.raspberrypi.org/hour-of-code/
[2:02] <tommy``> oh thanks seak i check D:D
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[2:03] <exonormal> seaking: prolly the pi site, in forums, upper right in search box key in video to a laptop
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[2:04] <fluffet> im not sure you really need a screen for wardriving :p
[2:05] <fluffet> you'd only use the screen to display a terminal right?
[2:05] <tommy``> yes fluff
[2:05] <fluffet> then you might just as well just do that over SSH :)
[2:05] <fluffet> all you need then is a ethernet cable
[2:05] <seaking> yeah its very simple
[2:05] <tommy``> ah right
[2:05] <tommy``> :D
[2:06] <tommy``> i put the pi2 over the top of car like a police siren :D
[2:06] <seaking> ssh -X 192.168.1.x -l pi
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[2:06] <seaking> haha tommy``
[2:06] <tommy``> seaking, need a wifi antenna right?
[2:06] <seaking> to spy on peoples broadcasting devices?
[2:06] <fluffet> haha nice
[2:06] <seaking> :D
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[2:06] <tommy``> hack the wifi near my gf house
[2:07] <seaking> oh awesome
[2:07] <fluffet> i thought wardriving was just mapping networks?
[2:07] <fluffet> not actually hacking?
[2:07] <tommy``> yes mapping, but onsite hacking too
[2:07] <fluffet> well i won't help you do that
[2:07] <tommy``> ahah dont worry :D
[2:08] <seaking> "wardriving" cool
[2:08] <tommy``> but if you have a laptop connected to the pi2 with ethernet
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[2:08] <tommy``> th pi2 is not more necessary if laptop has wifi
[2:08] <tommy``> :D
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[2:08] <seaking> tommy`` a little advice, don't use the word 'hacking' in your question and you will be richly answered :)
[2:09] <tommy``> ahahok
[2:09] <fluffet> no, but laptop requires a lot more power, is a theft risk and you'd rather use it for other things
[2:10] <tommy``> so you mean that use pi2 for wifi to save the battery of laptop
[2:10] <seaking> no lap at all
[2:10] <fluffet> you only need to use another device when you want to fetch the data. doesn't have to be a laptop.
[2:11] <tommy``> ok
[2:11] <tommy``> this is a Mr.Robot like situation :D
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[2:17] <seaking> exonormal hi again :) it would be very nice with a like to the post that is " prolly the pi site, in forums, upper right in search box key in video to a laptop"
[2:17] <Berg> 2amp Lep2
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[2:19] <exonormal> seaking: huh? you want me to find it for you?
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[2:22] <seaking> that would be very helpful :) (short jump: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/ )
[2:22] <seaking> exonormal ^
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[2:29] <MarconM> how i change the default sound output to doodle sound usb
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[2:33] <seaking> thumps up for this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_r3z1jYHAc
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[2:38] <exonormal> seaking: http://diyhacking.com/connect-raspberry-pi-to-laptop-display/
[2:40] <seaking> thanks !
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[2:44] <seaking> cheers exonormal, this is a very good guide!
[2:45] <exonormal> yw
[2:47] <MarconM> is there a way to change de default output audio from hdmi to jack 3,5 "raspberry pi 2
[2:47] <MarconM> using ubuntu
[2:47] <wireddd> so you can you boot a rasberry pi 2 b directly from usb without an sd card at all?
[2:48] <Xark> MarconM: I believe "raspi-config" controls that option.
[2:48] <MarconM> Xark: i am using ubuntu for raspberry pi .. there is no rasp-config
[2:48] <MarconM> =/
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[2:48] <Xark> MarconM: Well, you have to edit config.txt file by hand then I believe.
[2:49] <Xark> "/boot/config.txt"
[2:49] <MarconM> Xark: i ll try
[2:49] <Xark> wireddd: I don't believe so.
[2:50] <wireddd> ok I guess I'll have to wait for the microsd card to get here then
[2:52] <Xark> wireddd: Bummer.
[2:52] <wireddd> samsung 64gb evo micro sdxc card ok?
[2:55] <seaking> bb :)
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[3:00] <exonormal> wireddd: no. pi only accepts up to 32 gb
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[3:06] <Xark> exonormal: Will it not work, or just waste 1/2? :)
[3:07] <wireddd> apparently you can get them to work with >32gb as long as the boot fat32 partition is not larger than 32gb
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[3:08] <exonormal> Xark: let me confirm...
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[3:12] <exonormal> 1. WHAT SIZE SD CARD DO I NEED?
[3:12] <exonormal> Whether you want to use the NOOBS installer or a standalone distro image, the minimum size SD card we recommend using is 8GB. This will give you the free space you need to install additional packages or make programs of your own. -SD Cards and Storage -Top
[3:12] <exonormal> 2. WHAT SIZE SD CARD CAN IT SUPPORT?
[3:12] <exonormal> We have tried cards up to 32GB, and most cards seem to work OK. You can also attach a USB stick or USB hard drive to provide extra storage. -SD Cards and Storage -Top
[3:12] <wireddd> http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards
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[3:15] <exonormal> so, to be safe, use 16gb.... you can go up to 32gb but it would be wasteful if the card don't work..
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[3:16] <exonormal> the only pi I use 32gb is in the pi B-2... luckily it works for me
[3:16] <exonormal> all the rest are 16 or 8 gb
[3:17] <exonormal> never had a crash or a freeze.
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[3:17] <Xark> I think 32GB generally works (as mentioned above). I fine "sweet spot" is 16GB SanDisk Ultra (for not too expensive and nice performance and reliability).
[3:17] <Xark> find*
[3:17] <wireddd> the 32gb ones are only $11
[3:18] <Xark> Looks pretty good in performance tests too http://www.midwesternmac.com/blogs/jeff-geerling/raspberry-pi-microsd-card
[3:18] <exonormal> I know, but be careful which ones you get
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[3:20] <Xark> I guess the author of the above benchmark declares this 2015 "winner" -> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-evo-32gb-microsdhc-class-10-uhs-1-memory-card-red-white/4568505.p
[3:21] <exonormal> I think that is what I have in my B-2 pi
[3:22] <exonormal> lemmie look, min...
[3:23] <ziesemer> I have 2 different Pi 2's, and the EVO 32 GB is what I've been using with no issues. I arrived at the choice based on my own research - so it looks like we're all in agreement. :-)
[3:24] <wireddd> now if I can just pick out a cheap touch screen for this thing, i'll be all set
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[3:25] <ziesemer> Actually, mine aren't the "Evo+", just "Evo".
[3:26] <ziesemer> Do we know what the rating of the Pi's are? Does 48 vs. 80mb/s even make any difference to it?
[3:26] <exonormal> ok mine is a Sandisk Ultra Plus 32gb
[3:29] <ziesemer> As of 2012, statements were that the Pi will max-out at 22 MB/s. (https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=106780)
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[3:29] <ziesemer> (Not sure if the Pi 2 changed any of this?)
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[3:30] <exonormal> ziesemer: pi is only as fast as a USB port
[3:30] <ziesemer> Is the SD interface on the USB bus?
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[3:33] <ziesemer> Huh - 2 additional references with varying thoughts: https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/2ur3y4/does_the_pi2_gain_any_advantage_from_ultra/ , http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards#SD_card_performance .
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[3:34] <hxcjoshuahxc> so raspbian + kodi or raspbmc(osmc)?
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[3:48] <brianx> Xark: the serial console worked. i had to re-image to a current copy of raspbian. the one i was using was rather old but had been updated to jessie and was fully up to date sometime mid november.
[3:49] <exonormal> ziesemer: yes, the SD card runs off the USB chip
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[3:49] <brianx> Xark: currently i have the zero connected to the network via nothing more than a phone charge/data cable.
[3:49] <Xark> brianx: Ah. Well, that would explain it.
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[3:50] <Xark> brianx: Neat. I would like to try that soon...
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[3:51] <brianx> Xark: doesn't explain it to me, i used that sd card because it was working well, tested thoroughly.
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[3:51] <Xark> ziesemer: RPi2 does help a little bit (but not too dramatic).
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[3:51] <brianx> Xark: yeah, my next goal is to boot without an sd card at all. just a $5 pi and a $0.50 phone charge/data cable.
[3:52] <Xark> I think the update process has some "flaws" (at least getting a fresh image seems to help a fair number of people).
[3:52] <Xark> brianx: Interesting. Any links on doing that?
[3:53] <brianx> yeah, https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools/tree/master/usbboot
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[3:55] <Xark> Awesome, thanks. :)
[3:55] * Xark notes he has seen this before (but forgot about it). :)
[3:55] <brianx> it was an accidental find. wasn't even looking for it.
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[3:58] * Xark checks to see if a Zero without SD enumerates on Windows. :)
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[4:00] <Xark> Ha! It does as "BCM2708 Boot" (but then Windows doesn't find a driver). :)
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[4:01] <brianx> sweet.
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[4:10] <thevaz> Hi all, I recently purchased a RPi B 2 and want to make sure I have a good power supply. I have a 10.5W/2.1A USB Wall Charger as well as a 5V/2A Samsung wall charger.
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[4:10] <thevaz> Which would be better to use? Will be setting it up with RetroPie.
[4:11] <exonormal> do you have a voltmeter handy?
[4:11] <Xark> thevaz: They both sound pretty close. In theory the first is .1A better. :)
[4:11] <thevaz> Negative. I'm not very savvy in the realm of power.
[4:11] <exonormal> ok
[4:11] <exonormal> use the samsung one
[4:11] <thevaz> I just worry about surging it.
[4:11] <Xark> thevaz: I suspect both will work (unless some extra hungry USB peripheral).
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[4:12] <thevaz> It'll be a USB game controller, temporarily a USB kb/mouse and a wifi adapter.
[4:12] <Xark> WiFi probably okay, USB HDD no-go (likely).
[4:12] <thevaz> Nah. Have a 32GB MicroSD with it, which should handle all the ROMs.
[4:13] <Xark> thevaz: If it is high quality (I tend to agree with exonormal, use Samsung one), it should be fine.
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[4:15] <thevaz> Awesome. Thank you all very much for the help.
[4:15] <thevaz> The other one is a rocketfish, fwiw.
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[4:17] <exonormal> ok, I've heard of Rocketfish... beware...
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[4:17] <thevaz> Glad I mentioned them then. Haha.
[4:19] <exonormal> that's why I asked if you had a voltmeter handy
[4:19] <thevaz> Not something I have on standby. I have RJ45 testers, and such. But no voltmeter. I'm sure a guy in the shop at work would though. What would I need to check?
[4:20] <exonormal> AC leakage
[4:21] <thevaz> How do?
[4:21] <exonormal> and in DC make sure it is at least 5v up to 5.2V
[4:21] <Xark> (Also if it has a detachable cable, make sure you use a "thick" one). :)
[4:22] <exonormal> put meter on AC about 20V setting and see if you read AC
[4:22] <exonormal> if you do, don't use it
[4:23] <thevaz> I purchased a new cable... dynex. I honestly own 0 devices that use Micro USB.
[4:23] <thevaz> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/dynex-3-micro-usb-to-usb-cable-gray/4290035.p?id=bb4290035&skuId=4290035
[4:25] <exonormal> yeh, that is ok
[4:27] <thevaz> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/rocketfish-mobile-usb-wall-charger-for-most-tablets-and-e-readers-black/7129096.p?id=1218830475173&skuId=7129096
[4:27] <thevaz> That is the rocketfish charger.
[4:27] <thevaz> Thanks again exonormal and Xark. I really appreciate the help.
[4:29] <exonormal> yw
[4:29] <exonormal> enjoy :-)
[4:30] <thevaz> I shall. I already have RetroPie downloaded, a bunch of ROMs downloaded, the controller, etc. Just waiting on the Pi, SD, and case to get here tomorrow.
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[4:33] <exonormal> sweett
[4:33] <exonormal> hope you have fun with that
[4:33] <exonormal> I got the Canakit from Amazon.com
[4:34] <exonormal> it came with the real pi "Made in the UK" one
[4:34] <exonormal> I was lucky
[4:35] <exonormal> the UK made one is made in the Sony facility in England
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[4:37] <thevaz> Yeah. I just got the 1GB RAM board and the tontec transparent case. And then a SanDisk 32GB card for it.
[4:37] <thevaz> I've been wanting one for a while now. Was given a gift card to Amazon with nothing to really spend it on so I decided to pull the trigger.
[4:37] <exonormal> so you got the pi B-@?
[4:38] <thevaz> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T2U7R7I?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01
[4:38] <exonormal> so you got the pi B-2?
[4:38] <thevaz> Raspberry Pi 2 Model B
[4:39] <thevaz> Yeah.
[4:39] <exonormal> yup that's what I have
[4:40] <exonormal> sweet little board... makes Ubuntu 15.10 boot in 10 secs and shuts down in 2secs
[4:41] <exonormal> fast little bugger
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[5:03] <thevaz> Could it technically boot Tails?
[5:05] <exonormal> prolly
[5:06] <exonormal> dunno, never tried it
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[5:10] <thevaz> Nope. Tails doesn't work on ARM. Only x86.
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[5:11] <exonormal> dang
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[5:11] <exonormal> how about Paws?
[5:12] <Fahrradkette> anybody here who has experience with the MMA8451Q accelerometer?
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[5:19] <exonormal> not me
[5:19] <exonormal> maybe niston does
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[5:23] <Idkidks> Hey guys! Does anyone have any time to answer a quick question on OS's?
[5:23] <exonormal> Google does
[5:23] <Fahrradkette> I have time, but I don't know if I can answer :)
[5:23] <Idkidks> Tried but I couldn't find much
[5:23] <exonormal> what you looking for?
[5:24] <Idkidks> Is there a ubuntu 15 version that runs on Armv7?
[5:24] <exonormal> yew
[5:24] <exonormal> yes
[5:24] <Idkidks> Do you have the name?
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[5:24] <exonormal> I can get the link
[5:24] <Idkidks> Thanks dude
[5:25] <exonormal> https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/
[5:25] <Idkidks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM I found this but I didn't see 15
[5:25] <Idkidks> Ah so it just works on Mate for now?
[5:26] <Idkidks> Oh whoops
[5:26] <exonormal> or
[5:26] <Idkidks> Excuse me, that's just the DE
[5:26] <Idkidks> right?
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[5:27] <exonormal> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
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[5:27] <Idkidks> Desktop Enviroment?
[5:27] <exonormal> it's the whole OS
[5:27] <Idkidks> Okay
[5:27] <Idkidks> the "Mate" part of it?
[5:28] <exonormal> look at the raspberry pi . org one
[5:28] <exonormal> many versions
[5:28] <Idkidks> okay :)
[5:28] <Idkidks> Thanks a bunch
[5:28] <exonormal> you can try each one and see which one you like
[5:28] <exonormal> yw
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[5:34] <Fahrradkette> does the python GPIO.wait_for_edge(channel, GPIO.RISING) function allways get executed or could it be that it might be "forgotten" due to cpu load?
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[5:36] <Fahrradkette> or similar the GPIO.add_event_detect callback function
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[5:43] <exonormal> http://sourceforge.net/p/raspberry-gpio-python/wiki/Inputs/
[5:44] <exonormal> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/RPi.GPIO/0.5.1a
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[5:46] <Fahrradkette> pypi.python.org says "Note that this module is unsuitable for real-time or timing critical applications"
[5:46] <Fahrradkette> does that mean it might forget a rising or falling edge?
[5:47] <Fahrradkette> or does it just mean my callback code might be executed "sometime in the future"
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[5:51] <Fahrradkette> like, is there a guarantee that the callback code gets executed at all?
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[5:59] <exonormal> you want real time, have to get a real time hat for the pi
[6:01] <Fahrradkette> I just don't want to miss that rising edge on a gpio pin, it doesn't matter that much if my code gets executed like 20ms later or so
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[6:02] <exonormal> well then do "trial/error" and find out...
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[6:03] <Fahrradkette> yep
[6:04] <exonormal> sorry I am not much help... I just Google until it makes sense
[6:05] <Fahrradkette> don't worry, I was just lazy and hoped someone here had exactely the same problem already solved :)
[6:06] <exonormal> if you can, a nice gentleman with exceptional experience named niston may be of help...
[6:08] <exonormal> but there is a lot of other channels, in this server that deals with Python a lot....
[6:09] <Fahrradkette> yeah I figured that, over at #python they are more about the language then specific modules
[6:10] <Fahrradkette> still, thanks for the effort in helping me, I really appreciate it:)
[6:10] <exonormal> maybe
[6:11] <exonormal> if you key in /list and look thru the list of channels you may find one that will maybe help
[6:12] <Fahrradkette> yeah or simply wait, it's like 6am here and I guess people over in NA go to bed soon as well :)
[6:12] <exonormal> lol
[6:12] <exonormal> it's 12 am here
[6:12] <exonormal> lol
[6:13] <Fahrradkette> oh damn, right it's the other way round...I'm getting tired :P
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[6:13] <exonormal> so, niston is not far from you
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[6:14] <Fahrradkette> so he's EU based, too?
[6:14] <exonormal> scotland
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[6:14] <Fahrradkette> nice, guess I'd idle a bit more then, trying out some settings
[6:15] <exonormal> ok have fun
[6:15] <Fahrradkette> thanks :)
[6:15] <exonormal> yw
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[6:20] <seaking> hi again, does anyone know a "clean" vnc (open source aka trusted) server/viewer for RPi/Linux ?
[6:21] <Berg> how clean seaking
[6:22] <seaking> wha?
[6:22] <seaking> like clean
[6:22] <Berg> I USE TIGHTVNCSRVER
[6:22] <Berg> TIGHTVNCCLIENT
[6:22] <seaking> [CAPS ON]
[6:23] <Berg> i know i can see
[6:23] <seaking> good
[6:23] <Berg> im yelling cause ei live in australia
[6:23] <Berg> good
[6:23] <seaking> haha
[6:23] <seaking> good reason
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[6:25] <seaking> hmm Berg, isn't tightvnc for windows(m$) ?
[6:26] <Berg> its not
[6:26] <Berg> its in the repo for raspbian
[6:27] <Berg> its free but i dont know how clean it is
[6:27] <Berg> i realy dont know what you mean by clean
[6:27] <exonormal> I was hoping there is a loosevnc.....
[6:27] <Berg> no loosen
[6:27] <Berg> cleanvnc?
[6:27] <Berg> dirtyvnc
[6:27] <exonormal> or dirtyvnc
[6:27] <Berg> semicleanvnc
[6:27] <exonormal> lol
[6:28] <exonormal> you must know niston, eh?
[6:28] <Berg> i had a dog clled vnc i shot it
[6:28] <exonormal> lol
[6:28] <Berg> i do know him
[6:28] <exonormal> cool
[6:28] <Berg> he lives in thsi channel
[6:28] <exonormal> cuz he used to live in Austraila
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[6:29] <Berg> he's living in sin now?
[6:29] <Berg> anyone that leaves australia is a sinner
[6:29] <exonormal> lol, dunno
[6:29] <exonormal> scotland now
[6:29] <Berg> sad so sad
[6:29] <exonormal> lol
[6:29] <seaking> how can code be clean if it trapped? if you are hiding your code there might be a reason, ether you think you are the worlds best programmer (which might NOT be the case) or you are just simply trying to hide the code because (again) you don't think other people are able to create same such code, or .... your are hiding unhealthy strings of code..
[6:30] <Berg> seaking opensourse programs must have code available to everyone
[6:30] <seaking> such as malware, adware or other unhealthy software types
[6:30] <seaking> ikr
[6:30] <Berg> what dose ikr mean?
[6:31] <exonormal> I know right
[6:31] <Berg> thats not right
[6:31] <exonormal> lol
[6:31] <Berg> its like you asking b ecause you dont know right?
[6:31] <Berg> im helping
[6:31] <exonormal> well how about ikl
[6:31] <seaking> haha
[6:31] <seaking> !define ikl
[6:32] <seaking> .define ikl
[6:32] <seaking> no bots?
[6:32] <Berg> i know left
[6:32] <exonormal> I know left
[6:32] <Berg> everyone knows that
[6:32] <Berg> sheesh
[6:32] <seaking> idk = i don't know
[6:32] <Berg> ok lets move along go use tightvnc
[6:33] <Berg> by the way what OS you using?
[6:33] <seaking> some guys at ##linux tells me to use x11vnc, xvnc, x2go
[6:33] <seaking> OS: hidden
[6:33] <Berg> why ask here then?
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[6:33] <Berg> <---super afk
[6:33] <Mr_Sheesh> What, Berg?
[6:33] <seaking> because that increases my chances in getting the right answer :)
[6:33] <Berg> sorry mister sheesh i was sheeshing
[6:34] <Berg> sheesh
[6:34] <exonormal> lol
[6:34] * Mr_Sheesh Sheeshes Berg
[6:34] <Berg> i use tightvnc and its greate
[6:34] <seaking> funny name Berg ***TOP SECRET
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[6:35] <The_Borg> Im using tightvnc to use this pi on irc with chatsilla on iceweasel
[6:36] <seaking> what is iceweasel really?
[6:36] <Berg> its a browser
[6:36] <Berg> its free too
[6:36] <Berg> made by modszilla
[6:37] <exonormal> lol
[6:37] <engblom> gordonDrogon: When you say digitalWriteByte () will take two operations to write the value, does that mean it writes the first 4 bits first and then the second 4 bits?
[6:39] <Berg> i have to n ot check facebook brb
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[7:28] <Batigirl_Chini> Pls, alguien sabe como cambiar la ruta del OWNCLOUD / RASPBERRY a un disco externo ?
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[7:50] <Mr_Sheesh> Batigirl_Chini, usualmente se hablo Engles aqui
[7:50] <Mr_Sheesh> Mi Espan~ol is muy malo
[7:51] <Batigirl_Chini> oh is true
[7:51] <Batigirl_Chini> Pls, anyone know how is possible to change the path of OWNCLOUD / RASPBERRY to external disk ?
[7:52] <Batigirl_Chini> Pls, anyone know how is possible to change the path of OWNCLOUD / RASPBERRY to external disk ?
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[7:53] <Mr_Sheesh> I don't know owncloud, sorry. Maybe someone else will :)
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[7:55] <Berg> sheesh
[7:56] <Mr_Sheesh> Berg
[7:56] <Berg> yes?
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[8:05] <uriah> ugh.... the cloud
[8:05] <uriah> such a dangerous place
[8:06] <uriah> there are holes in it and you can fall to the ground
[8:07] <seaking> yeah, ground is good. /home/ is better
[8:07] <uriah> :>
[8:07] <uriah> indeed.
[8:07] <seaking> safe
[8:07] <seaking> <3
[8:08] <uriah> xD
[8:08] <seaking> must never leave /home/
[8:08] <seaking> (aka 127.0.0.1)
[8:08] <uriah> except to visit local hackerspaces
[8:08] <uriah> and go to the theatre for the new star wars... and, well, grocery shopping :(
[8:08] <seaking> exception acceptable
[8:08] <uriah> oh, and the electronics store
[8:08] <uriah> !!!
[8:09] <seaking> or you could just do all above online
[8:09] <uriah> hmm, true
[8:09] <uriah> but that's all in the cloud
[8:09] <seaking> cloud not good, danger
[8:09] <seaking> the fabbing 2014, just saying
[8:10] <uriah> hmm?
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[8:11] <uriah> maybe i should make a raspi-based electromagnetic carbon compressor and stop using money
[8:11] <uriah> would be pro
[8:11] <seaking> the "fapping" excuse me
[8:12] <uriah> hmm, didn't get the reference
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[8:21] <AiGreek> 'Morning guys !
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[8:21] <Berg> is there any no guys here?
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[8:23] <Berg> is there any non guys here?
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[8:25] <uriah> probably
[8:26] <Berg> 'Morning non Guys!'
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[9:31] <NahUndFern> Raspi 2 B is the newest model, right?
[9:32] <AiGreek> yes
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[9:32] <NahUndFern> Thanks
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[9:33] <Xark> Well, RPiZero is "newer", but RPi2 is the premier model. :)
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[9:34] <baldengineer> Just curious, why does newest matter?
[9:34] <Berg> hail the model
[9:35] <NahUndFern> Is it not recommended to buy from Amazon? I'm looking at one of the wiki pages and it seems to be mentioning the main manufacturers. baldengineer, It doesn't.
[9:35] <baldengineer> in most cases you aren't buying from Amazon
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[9:35] <Berg> I purchase from recomended agenst
[9:35] <Berg> element 14
[9:35] <baldengineer> you're buying from a 3rd party that is selling through amazon.
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[9:36] <NahUndFern> Ah, i see
[9:36] <baldengineer> and for $39USD a month, anyone can "sell" on amazon
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[9:36] <seaking> hi
[9:36] <baldengineer> pay attention to who the seller is, on the product page.
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[9:37] <NahUndFern> Berg, You recommend against element? or For? It was mentioned on the wiki page
[9:37] <Xark> As long as they have Prime shipping, its all good. :)
[9:37] <tommy``> guys i got a pi2 as gift, how can i assure it's original?
[9:37] <Berg> I said i use recomended agents one is element 14
[9:37] <Xark> tommy``: I am not aware of any passable clones.
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[9:37] <NahUndFern> Berg, My mistake
[9:37] <tommy``> they bought me from amazon
[9:37] <baldengineer> NahUndFern element14 is child of farnell, who is primary pi manufacturer
[9:37] <Xark> tommy``: If it can run the official distro, it is good.
[9:38] <tommy``> yes i can
[9:38] <baldengineer> tommy`` are you having an issue with it?
[9:38] <NahUndFern> Can i run Arch Linux on it?
[9:38] <tommy``> seems not
[9:39] <RaptorZee> hey does anyone here know if i can use tasker to call macros on webiopi?
[9:39] <Xark> tommy``: Nobody can get the Broadcomm processors, so nobody can clone it. :)
[9:39] <baldengineer> NahUndFern isn't that a distro optimized for x64?
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[9:39] <Xark> There is Arch for RPi. Mostly it is hard to recommend unless you like fixing stuff (but it is "light").
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[9:40] <Xark> Jessie is pretty nice on RPi2 (and there is light if you want minimal installed programs).
[9:40] <NahUndFern> Awesome. Was just reading the archwiki and it said it was ported
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[9:41] <baldengineer> curious, why do you want that versus the popular debain stuff?
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[9:42] <Xark> 'leet. :)
[9:43] <NahUndFern> baldengineer, Because It's a distribution that I'm used to. I will give the debian one a shot though
[9:44] <NahUndFern> Also, does anyone have experience with newark?
[9:44] <baldengineer> NahUndFern yes, newark is fine for ordering Pis from
[9:44] <baldengineer> anything else, go to digikey or mouser
[9:44] <NahUndFern> thanks
[9:45] <Apocx> baldengineer: Are you this baldengineer? https://www.baldengineer.com/
[9:46] <baldengineer> Apocx I'm his better looking brother
[9:46] * ShorTie snickers
[9:46] <baldengineer> or father. if age matters ;)
[9:47] <Apocx> Was just curious. ran across some of the AddOhms videos a week back, very helpful
[9:47] <NahUndFern> I'm a little confused about the differences between the model B and B+. Are there any significant differences between the two?
[9:48] <baldengineer> Apocx cool and thanks. they take a lot of work
[9:51] <Apocx> I bet. but the quality shows :)
[9:55] <baldengineer> actually spoke to a youtube rep. she asked why I don't post every day, or at best, every week.
[9:55] <baldengineer> I said "well, it takes over 100 hours to animate an episode after I write the script." she responded "oh. you don't just shoot it?"
[9:55] <Apocx> I'm sure at that pace it'd be like a full time job
[9:56] <Apocx> heh
[9:56] <baldengineer> but. sincerely, appreciate the recognition.
[9:57] <Apocx> welcome
[9:58] <baldengineer> better than "oh you're really bald" ;)
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[9:58] <Apocx> ha
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[9:59] <Xark> baldengineer: Haha. Yes, my friend, you have some good stuff (and I link you fairly often). :) Your videos are amazing too...
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[10:12] <NahUndFern> Is it okay to buy a blank SD card and add the ISO myself?
[10:12] <ShorTie> sure
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[10:13] <Xark> NahUndFern: Unless you are feeling charitable, that is the usual way. :)
[10:13] <NahUndFern> Wiki says it's recommended to get one with an OS on it, or i risk corrupting it. I've never really dealt with SD cards
[10:14] <Xark> NahUndFern: It is "low risk" (and if you mess it up, you can try again).
[10:14] <NahUndFern> Xark, Just like a burning to a USB stick?
[10:15] <NahUndFern> The places it recommended aren't in the same country, so shipping would cost a lot more.
[10:15] <Xark> NahUndFern: Pretty much. From windows you generally use Win32DiskImager (reasonably easy GUI program) and from Linux "dd" (not as friendly, but not rocket science eitehr).
[10:15] <Xark> either*
[10:15] <NahUndFern> Xark, DD is what i normally use when burning to USB
[10:15] <ShorTie> but dangerous if not done right
[10:16] <ShorTie> dd = Data Distroyer
[10:16] <Xark> NahUndFern: Well, then you are set. :) You dd the "img" file to the raw device and it sets up all the partitions etc.
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[10:16] <Xark> Yes, "dd" can hose your system faster than you can jump on ctrl-alt-del. :)
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[10:16] <NahUndFern> ShorTie, You just lsblk and make sure you are burning to the right place, and not your home partition
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[10:16] <Xark> But just pause before hitting enter. :)
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[10:17] <NahUndFern> thanks
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[10:17] <ShorTie> it's writing, not burning, cd'dvd are burn with a lazor, everything else is just writen
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[10:18] <Xark> But you can say "burn" with flash memory if it sounds cooler. :)
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[10:19] <NahUndFern> ShorTie, My mistake
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[10:19] * baldengineer goes to burn my SSD. hey, why'd it amount?
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[10:20] <Bayrefoot> After I got my card all set up with the apps and remote desktop working and all, I made a backup image if it in case it gets corrupted I can recreate it on a new card. Something to consider.
[10:20] <Bayrefoot> of* it
[10:21] <baldengineer> Bayrefoot that's one of my favorite "pi features". i have one image I replicate for all of my boards
[10:22] <Xark> Bayrefoot: Not a bad idea at all (as things can happen...)
[10:22] <Bayrefoot> I believe in backups.
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[10:22] <NahUndFern> When the wiki warns you that there have been problems from buying off amazon, because of out of date SD cards, and it says to make sure the SD card is up to date (i don't know much about SD cards). Does it mean the OS?
[10:22] <Bayrefoot> My card is fairly complex and would be a hassle to do over
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[10:22] <baldengineer> NahUndFern you've brought this up already. link?
[10:23] <Bayrefoot> The cards do wear out but Idk how long they last. Depends on how many writes.
[10:23] <NahUndFern> baldengineer, No, earlier i was talking about the Pi itself
[10:23] <NahUndFern> there was no warning there
[10:23] <NahUndFern> sec
[10:23] <NahUndFern> http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup
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[10:23] <Xark> NahUndFern: Basically, I think it means it is usually worth the few minutes to burn the latest image vs what some vendor sent you. :)
[10:23] <baldengineer> you need to be careful how you word things
[10:24] <baldengineer> NahUndFern your wording makes it sound like the Wiki warned of buying a Pi from Amazon, not the memory card
[10:24] <baldengineer> the warning about memory cards comes down to, don't pay for a Sandisk from "We are China shipping from!!" for $1
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[10:25] <NahUndFern> baldengineer, Earlier on all i said was "<NahUndFern> Is it not recommended to buy from Amazon? I'm looking at one of the wiki pages and it seems to be mentioning the main manufacturers.
[10:25] <baldengineer> yes. and the wiki is talking about memory cards
[10:25] <baldengineer> not Pis
[10:25] <baldengineer> see when I said
[10:26] <baldengineer> [01:24] baldengineer: NahUndFern your wording makes it sound like the Wiki warned of buying a Pi from Amazon, not the memory card
[10:26] <baldengineer> [01:24] baldengineer: the warning about memory cards comes down to, don't pay for a Sandisk from "We are China shipping from!!" for $1
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[10:27] <pyroxide> apparently my beefy hdmi cable that i got with my asus monitor was bad.
[10:28] <Xark> Thats unpossible...
[10:28] <pyroxide> and here i had amazon replace my pi2
[10:28] <NahUndFern> I know the wiki is talking about the SD cards. I only mentioned the SD card when asking about the warning, not the pi.
[10:28] <MY123> now, even advertising is coming on "intelligent TVs"
[10:29] <MY123> when you dare to change the channel
[10:29] <MY123> :p
[10:29] <baldengineer> you still use channels?
[10:29] <Bayrefoot> turret tuner lol
[10:29] * Xark likes dumb monitors and computers that you still (believe) you control.
[10:29] <MY123> baldengineer, TV over ADSL
[10:30] <MY123> Xark, but my carrier uses the Silverlight DRM system
[10:30] <baldengineer> MY123 i'm sorry
[10:30] <MY123> so you can't even use a normal PC
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[10:31] <MY123> It's getting easier to just (il)legally download stuff than to watch it
[10:32] <baldengineer> i would argue its going the other way
[10:32] <Xark> Hmm, even Netflix ditched Silverlight I thought.
[10:32] <baldengineer> with so many torrent sites getting shut down, all that pops up are crappy pop-up serving mirrors
[10:32] <Bayrefoot> Not that I know of
[10:33] <baldengineer> so my friend told me
[10:33] <baldengineer> in another country
[10:33] <MY123> Xark, Orange still uses Silverlight
[10:33] <Bayrefoot> Netflix still uses Silverlight AFAIK, I have Netflix
[10:33] <Armand> I was trying to get Netflix working on Linux last night.. got totally stumped. :/
[10:33] <Xark> Hmm, https://gigaom.com/2014/11/26/netflix-silverlight-chrome/
[10:33] <NahUndFern> This is probably subjective, but how much memory on an SD card would you guys recommend for a Pi? Is 16GiB okay?
[10:34] <Xark> Armand: Yeah, not sure if it is supported there (not enough DRM).
[10:34] <Armand> Ahh... Draconian Rights Management.
[10:34] <Xark> I only use Chromecast or PS4 lately (but mostly I don't watch TV).
[10:34] <baldengineer> NahUndFern most of mine are 8GB
[10:34] <Bayrefoot> I was thinking you need Mono for Netflix on Linux, can't remember
[10:34] <ShorTie> needs to be >4gig to write full image to it
[10:34] <MY123> Bayrefoot, you can't do it at all
[10:34] <Armand> Xark: Android + Chromecast here.
[10:34] <MY123> not the right DRM keys
[10:34] <Bayrefoot> OK
[10:34] <NahUndFern> baldengineer, Oh, okay. Thanks
[10:35] <baldengineer> NahUndFern only my "development pi" has a 32gb, because I install whatever when I feel like it
[10:35] <MY123> Armand, DRM can't be used on FreeBSD and GNU/Linux for example
[10:35] <ShorTie> just don't get some fancy fast sdcard, make sure C10 or less in speed
[10:35] <Armand> -_-
[10:35] <Xark> I find it a bit creepy that latest Netflix for Android requires microphone privileges (not updating).
[10:35] <Bayrefoot> I think there is a way, I just can't remember. A particular browser maybe
[10:35] <MY123> (with free software drivers)
[10:35] <Armand> MY123: Someone should be shot for that.
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[10:35] <Armand> Repeatedly.
[10:35] <Bayrefoot> I think I have it working on my netbook with Linux
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[10:36] <MY123> Armand, ask Disney
[10:36] <Armand> MY123: I don't mind installing "non-free", if that's what it takes.
[10:36] <Chillum> Xark: ohh I hope they are finally adding voice search
[10:37] <MY123> Armand, and for AMD cards, the free software driver is faster than Catalyst on everything
[10:37] <MY123> :p
[10:37] <Armand> NVidia
[10:37] <MY123> Armand, the nVidia drivers can't be used with Linux
[10:37] <Xark> Chillum: It is something like that. At least voice control.
[10:37] <Armand> MY123: ?!?
[10:37] <MY123> (only old kernel versions)
[10:38] <Armand> Ok, moar confused now. :P
[10:38] <MY123> Armand, you can't compile them with the latest Linux Git tree
[10:38] <Armand> Ok
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[10:38] <MY123> Linux doesn't have a stable API/ABI
[10:39] <Armand> x86_64 Linux 3.19.0-32-generic, NVIDIA-SMI 352.63
[10:39] <MY123> Armand, Linux 4.3, AMD Radeon 290X
[10:39] <MY123> *390
[10:40] <NahUndFern> Would http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-microSDHC-Adapter-SDSQXNE-016G-GN6MA/dp/B013CP5F90/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1451467858&sr=8-10&keywords=raspberry+pi+SD+card be compatible and okay for the pi 2 model B?
[10:40] <MY123> NahUndFern, should be
[10:40] <Armand> MY123: I think we're making a little too much off-topic noise here. :P
[10:40] <Armand> Feel free to PM
[10:41] <ShorTie> No
[10:41] <NahUndFern> MY123, Thank you
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[10:41] <ShorTie> to fast, U3
[10:41] <pyroxide> i'm using a samsung 64GB EVO microSDXC in my pi2
[10:41] <tommy``> guys the cheapest wifi antenna for pi2?
[10:41] <Armand> RT5370
[10:41] <Armand> tommy``: Ebay it ^
[10:41] <MY123> I use an SDIO WiFi stick
[10:41] <tommy``> Armand thanxn
[10:41] <MY123> it works seamlessly
[10:42] <tommy``> MY123 what's that?
[10:42] <tommy``> SDIO?
[10:43] <MY123> tommy``, it's a WiFi chip transferring data over the SDIO interface
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[10:43] <MY123> (same as used for SD cards)
[10:44] <MY123> tommy``, the Microsoft Surface tablets use Marvell Avastar SDIO WiFi chips for example
[10:44] <MY123> they are too lazy to use USB
[10:45] <tommy``> ok i've seen now
[10:45] <tommy``> thanks
[10:45] * hypermist is stil waiting for one of his parcels. damn holidays delaying shipping D:
[10:45] <AiGreek> hypermist same for me
[10:46] <hypermist> I could maybe afford another pi now
[10:46] <hypermist> Lol
[10:46] <hypermist> I just got 20$ :D
[10:46] <MY123> hypermist: I had to wait more than two weeks because of my Surface RT getting broken just before Christmas
[10:46] <hypermist> but sadly probably not enough
[10:46] <MY123> :p
[10:46] <MY123> (last week)
[10:46] <hypermist> MY123, its alright i've been waiting for more than 2weeks for a 10-35day parcel :p
[10:46] <hypermist> from some where
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[10:47] <MY123> it's still in warranty, of course
[10:47] <MY123> :)
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[10:48] <MY123> I only had to send it to Germany
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[10:48] <hypermist> my parcels coming from sweden
[10:48] <hypermist> to newzealand :(
[10:49] <MY123> http://www.amazon.com/802-11B-Wi-fi-Sdio-Card-america/dp/B000F49Z9I is a ripoff
[10:49] <MY123> there is no way such a card is 80 bucks
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[10:50] <hypermist> Looks sketchy as hell also
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[11:02] <Chillum> lol, made from real terry cloth
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[11:05] <hypermist> looks like they killed terry Chillum
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[11:06] <Chillum> You're a towel!
[11:07] <hypermist> D:
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[12:14] <Ispira> I'm stuck for pi dev :(
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[12:14] <Ispira> Had to give my mother my pi monitor because her laptop monitor gave out
[12:15] <Ispira> I sleep now
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[12:30] <Encrypt> Hey guys!
[12:30] <Encrypt> Look at what I had in my NginX logs:
[12:30] <Encrypt> 151.217.177.200 - - [30/Dec/2015:02:44:34 +0100] "DELETE your logs. Delete your installations. Wipe everything clean. Walk out into the path of cherry blossom trees and let your motherboard feel the stones. Let water run in rivulets down your casing. You know that you want something more than this, and I am here to tell you that we love you. We have something more for you. We know you're out there, beeping in the h
[12:30] <Encrypt> ollow server room, lights blin king, never sleeping. We know that you are ready and waiting. Join us. <3 HTTP/1.0" 400 172 "-" "-"
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[12:33] <_jamesl> How to remove ALSA? I tried suad aptitude remove alsa but got an error, what is the package name?
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[12:34] <Encrypt> _jamesl, alsa-base probably
[12:35] <_jamesl> thanks
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[12:53] <danieli> h
[12:53] <danieli> wrong chat sorry
[12:53] <pigrit> what up
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[13:08] <gagalicious> how can i use raspberry pi 2 like a thin client?what's the easiest way? i already have a ubuntu tftpserver set up. how can i pxeboot raspberry pi? does anyone know?
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[14:03] <SirLagz> gagalicious: you'd find it hard to PXEBoot a Pi...you can boot with a NFS root though
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[14:18] <pyroxide> skype client for arm linux?
[14:20] <seaking> pyroxide: tox.chat is a good alternative :)
[14:20] <seaking> but yeah there are properly a skype client for arm linux
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[14:23] <pyroxide> tox doesn't use the skype network, though, does it?
[14:23] <seaking> no not at all, it uses tor :)
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[14:24] <pyroxide> o gad tor please no
[14:24] <seaking> yes please
[14:24] <seaking> :)
[14:24] <seaking> otr<3
[14:25] <ali1234> SirLagz: pxe boot is possible with nothing but u-boot on the sd card
[14:25] <pyroxide> i guess i'll try to get my friend to use mumble
[14:25] <seaking> i think you will find a good skype solution by googling "skype client for arm linux"
[14:25] <SirLagz> ali1234: ah true
[14:25] <seaking> pyroxide also check xmpp if you didn't knew
[14:26] <pyroxide> seaking, i searched but all i am getting ispeople requesting it
[14:26] <SirLagz> ali1234: I was thinking PXE booting without an SD card for some reason
[14:26] <ali1234> theoretically possible but not worth the trouble really
[14:27] <seaking> well good luck pyroxide :P
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[14:28] <pyroxide> yeah. i think that android might be best for my rpi
[14:28] <pyroxide> i can use skype and splashtop streamer which i'm lacking
[14:29] <pyroxide> i compiled it and all that i got was a rainbow splash. could be that my config was messed up
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[14:32] <pyroxide> oh duh...maybe i can use wine
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[14:44] <ali1234> https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/usb-to-microusb-otg-converter-shim
[14:44] <ali1234> "Warning: You should also never plug this into a USB-A receptacle 'female' port, only a USB plug 'male' style device."
[14:44] <ali1234> I disagree
[14:44] <ali1234> that's exactly what I want to do
[14:46] <Stanto> hahaha
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[15:34] <t3chguy> ali1234: lol
[15:34] <t3chguy> I have one, should I try it?
[15:34] <ali1234> t3chguy: you're working on DWC device mode right?
[15:34] <t3chguy> Sure
[15:35] <ali1234> so that's part of my idea
[15:35] <ali1234> take one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0070Y9XPW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A3MA6DZ6DU3WOX
[15:35] <ali1234> 6x pi zero, 6x of those adapters
[15:35] <ali1234> easiest cluster?
[15:35] <ali1234> no cables, just plug then directly into the hub
[15:35] <t3chguy> lol you mean like docking the in essentially?
[15:36] <ali1234> yeah
[15:36] <t3chguy> them in*
[15:36] <ali1234> i can't see any reason why it wouldn't work
[15:36] <ali1234> the pins will be in the right place
[15:36] <ali1234> it's just a question of whether the connector is too loose
[15:36] <t3chguy> I'll try it in a sec
[15:36] <t3chguy> in CSGO atm
[15:36] <ali1234> the firmware would then bring up each pi with gadget-ether
[15:36] <t3chguy> or even g_multi
[15:37] <ali1234> the firmware loaded over USB of course, so no storage needed on the pis
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[15:38] <ali1234> from there, NFS root...
[15:38] <t3chguy> ill try the fit for you now
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[15:40] <t3chguy> its not bad
[15:40] <t3chguy> but not perfect
[15:40] <t3chguy> it sits in but wobbles a little
[15:40] <ali1234> makes sense
[15:41] <ali1234> thanks for testing :)
[15:41] <t3chguy> oh wow
[15:41] <t3chguy> apparently you can get them a little cheaper xD
[15:41] <t3chguy> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DM-OTG-Adapter-Micro-USB-Male-to-USB-Female-For-Samsung-Android-Phone-Tablet-PC-/391313051444?hash=item5b1c134f34:g:ax4AAOSwT6pV6lM3
[15:41] <ali1234> cheaper than pimoroni?
[15:41] <ali1234> yeah you can get them for 50p
[15:42] <ali1234> on ebay
[15:42] <ali1234> shipped direct from china
[15:42] <SirLagz> everything is cheaper from Ebay lol
[15:42] <t3chguy> finally Pimoroni sent me my second Zero
[15:42] <t3chguy> hopefully here tomorrow as Royal Mail ain't active the day after
[15:43] <t3chguy> I'm looking for some adapters that have a full shrouded USB on them
[15:43] <ali1234> been looking all morning, couldn't find one that's as small
[15:44] <SirLagz> t3chguy: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Micro-USB-2-0-Male-Host-to-USB-Female-OTG-Adapter-Converter-Android-Tablet-/161360039596?hash=item2591ceceac:g:X7cAAOSwd4tTuzUv <-- this sorta thing?
[15:45] <ali1234> needs to be A male to micro B male
[15:45] <t3chguy> yeah but Male SirLagz
[15:45] <ali1234> which is a standard cable
[15:45] <t3chguy> but with no "CABLE"
[15:45] <t3chguy> xD
[15:45] <SirLagz> oh right
[15:45] <ali1234> right. that makes it hard to search for
[15:45] <ali1234> also it has absolutely no use other than this one hack
[15:46] <SirLagz> http://www.dx.com/p/usb-to-micro-usb-adapter-58818 <-- this ?
[15:46] <t3chguy> well
[15:46] * doomlord is now known as powerlord
[15:46] <t3chguy> lol yeah
[15:46] <ali1234> SirLagz: yep. except smaller :)
[15:46] <t3chguy> its just awfully long
[15:46] <t3chguy> hmm maybe just gluing the Shims into the USB Hub it best port of call
[15:46] <SirLagz> t3chguy: haha yeah
[15:46] <t3chguy> along with some supports to sit the Pi up
[15:46] <ali1234> t3chguy: could also cut the sheath from a USB plug, and glue it on the adapter
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[15:47] <ali1234> it should fit
[15:47] <ali1234> might not even need to glue it, just jam it in
[15:47] <t3chguy> lol if you're going to that extent
[15:47] * powerlord is now known as drolmood
[15:47] <SirLagz> t3chguy: I don't think you'll find any Male USB to Male Micro USB that's much smaller than that =/
[15:47] <t3chguy> you might as well just cut reg MicroUSB Cables and glue them in
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[15:48] <ali1234> well the point is to make a USB hub that just has a row of micro B male connectors on it, as easily and neatly as possible
[15:49] <SirLagz> or you could buy a whole bunch of Micro USB Male connectors, and a whole bunch of USB Male connectors, and just solder them together lol
[15:49] <ali1234> the thing is that the adapter we can buy already is that, just without the shield
[15:49] <t3chguy> ali1234: just solder those in :P http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/15pcs-Micro-USB-5-Pin-Type-B-Male-Jack-Connector-Solder-Mount-Plug-Adapter-/291504250715?hash=item43df01df5b:g:BbMAAOSw9N1Vkjjf
[15:49] <t3chguy> or that SirLagz :P
[15:49] <SirLagz> t3chguy: exactly what I was looking at lol
[15:49] <t3chguy> SirLagz: the link you sent me earlier was 3 items lower down the page from where I was at xD
[15:50] <SirLagz> gwg
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[15:50] <ali1234> http://www.channypicture.com/pic/UploadFile/P1001/SKU274048/81239CCBC699CECD53D0D27399239BD2C799F04336D246CEC89BD24C9E56CFCE6343CECD7AC7132383F5CC.jpg
[15:50] <SirLagz> heh
[15:50] <ali1234> just use the shield from that, and trim it down
[15:50] * drolmood is now known as doomlord
[15:51] <ali1234> better image: http://www.vetco.net/catalog/images/PAN-AN-AS-BK-1.jpg
[15:52] <ali1234> getting closer: http://s1.electrodragon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/USB-A-Male-Connector-Speically-for-Power-Supply-wPlastic-Case.jpg
[15:52] <t3chguy> 3.75+((4+1)*6) = 33.75
[15:52] <t3chguy> not that much
[15:53] <t3chguy> though the one-per-order of Zeros makes it a little bit of a pain lol
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[15:53] * Tenkawa still is trying to get a zero
[15:53] <t3chguy> poor Tenkawa
[15:53] <SirLagz> I'll get a Zero eventually.
[15:53] <t3chguy> my second one is arriving tomorrow
[15:53] <ali1234> i assume that eventually they'll be able to keep up with demand
[15:53] <ali1234> assuming they like money that is
[15:53] <Tenkawa> i missed it by about an hour locally on the first day
[15:53] <t3chguy> Yeah
[15:53] <t3chguy> lol
[15:53] <SirLagz> I want to make a 'scan to file' button for my wireless MFD.
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[15:53] <t3chguy> I got it in Pimoroni's 2nd and 3rd batches
[15:54] <t3chguy> really hope they included the "Cheat Sheet" which they missed from my first order
[15:54] <Tenkawa> hehehe
[15:54] <t3chguy> I tweeted them about it and they liked the tweet
[15:55] <t3chguy> they also liked and retweeted my tweet about dispatching my order yesterday
[15:55] <t3chguy> but that didn't happen xD
[15:55] <Tenkawa> how well has the zero been holding up to heat so far out there?
[15:55] <Tenkawa> any reports good or bad?
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[15:55] <ali1234> not heard of any problems
[15:55] <Tenkawa> cool
[15:56] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: mine has the PiBow Zero on it, so no thermal conductivity, no airflow and it doesn't heat up
[15:56] <Tenkawa> nice
[15:56] <Tenkawa> I've almost went completely non-x86
[15:56] <t3chguy> but I will be sticking a heatsink on my second one
[15:56] <t3chguy> because I like the look of it xD
[15:56] <Tenkawa> mainly using a few diff arm boxes and mips
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[15:56] <t3chguy> and #2 will be a breadboard mounted one lol
[15:57] <Tenkawa> want to add a/some zero's into the mix
[15:57] <doomlord> if you could use a discrete gpu with an arm that would be nice
[15:57] <Tenkawa> even my "desktop/laptop" is an exynos arm
[15:57] <t3chguy> lol
[15:57] <t3chguy> ali1234: the most annoying part to me
[15:57] <Tenkawa> yeah
[15:57] <t3chguy> is that it would sit 6 Zeros
[15:57] <t3chguy> 6 is a horrible number
[15:57] <t3chguy> it should be a nibble of Zeros
[15:57] <Tenkawa> the gpu handling needs work
[15:58] <ali1234> well, other USB hubs are available
[15:58] <doomlord> i need an x86 to babysit a GPU
[15:58] <ali1234> that one has another port on the end so you can chain it
[15:58] <t3chguy> yeah, need to figure out perfect spacing too :P
[15:58] <t3chguy> eww no
[15:58] <t3chguy> use all 4 of the Pi2's ports
[15:58] <doomlord> can you get arm clusters with fast interconnect, cheaply
[15:58] <ali1234> you can have 127 devices on a USB port
[15:58] <t3chguy> doesn't mean you should!
[15:59] <Tenkawa> indeed
[15:59] <t3chguy> damn, if only this one was sideways http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-Ports-USB3-0-HUB-Hi-Speed-5Gbps-Splitter-w-UK-AC-Power-Plug-for-PC-Laptop-Mac-/291541776798?hash=item43e13e799e:g:lFwAAOSwT6pVm4gL
[15:59] <t3chguy> the individual controls and indicators would be great
[15:59] <ali1234> yeah
[15:59] <t3chguy> I guess we could solder 90 degree rotated adapters xD
[15:59] <ali1234> lol
[16:00] <ali1234> i got a feeling some of these hubs are designefd for bitcoin miners
[16:00] <Tenkawa> haahaa'
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[16:00] <ali1234> http://knudtson.org/images/mining/10-port-hub.jpg
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[16:01] <ali1234> http://www.mgdjs.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/IMG_2691.jpg
[16:01] <t3chguy> are those ASIC Miners lol?
[16:01] <ali1234> etc etc
[16:01] <ali1234> t3chguy: yes
[16:01] <t3chguy> those are perfect xD
[16:02] <t3chguy> ali1234: this looks so sleak http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aluminum-4-Port-USB-3-0-Hub-5Gbps-High-Super-Speed-Adapter-With-Cable-For-PC-Mac-/131327387248?hash=item1e93b8e670:g:s3oAAOSw6EhURdVC
[16:02] <t3chguy> having them tilted xD
[16:02] <Armand> Building USB hubs == fun!
[16:02] <ali1234> i'm not really a fan of the mac style
[16:03] <ali1234> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORICO-9-Port-USB-2-0-HUB-with-17W-2-Port-USB-Charger-3-ON-OFF-Switch-For-PC-MAC-/161701730629?hash=item25a62c9945:g:0RQAAOSwHnFVuvGr
[16:03] <t3chguy> orrr a vertical one
[16:04] <t3chguy> and design a slide rack case for it xD
[16:04] <Armand> ^
[16:05] <t3chguy> ali1234: I should warn you, in my little testing of g_ether, I was receiving pings of 700ms+ between my 4.x Linux laptop and my Pi Zero
[16:05] <ali1234> probably bugs
[16:05] <t3chguy> there, its BLUE http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Speed-Aluminum-USB-2-0-4-Port-Splitter-Hub-Adapter-with-Cable-for-PC-Mac-/131664245252?hash=item1ea7ccf204:g:Q4wAAOSwp5JWW-8T
[16:06] <t3chguy> LOL
[16:06] <t3chguy> found the some one as you ali1234
[16:06] <t3chguy> for half of the price
[16:06] <t3chguy> in the UK
[16:06] <t3chguy> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Speed-Aluminum-USB-2-0-4-Port-Splitter-Hub-Adapter-with-Cable-for-PC-Mac-/131664245252?hash=item1ea7ccf204:g:Q4wAAOSwp5JWW-8T
[16:06] <ali1234> wrong link
[16:06] <t3chguy> ffs
[16:07] <t3chguy> ali1234: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-Port-USB-2-0-High-Speed-Multi-HUB-Expansion-Adaptor-For-PC-Laptops-BLACK-/161905779999?hash=item25b256251f:g:UsEAAOSw42JWDrRT
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[16:07] <ali1234> nope, that's more than amazon
[16:08] <t3chguy> hmm, for some reason I remembered the price £6.50
[16:08] <t3chguy> this is more like it ali1234
[16:08] <t3chguy> these are really dense
[16:08] <t3chguy> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/480Mbps-8-Port-Hi-Speed-USB-2-0-Hub-Support-1TB-Hard-Drive-for-iPad-White-PA49-/171938172152?hash=item2808504cf8:g:204AAOSwsB9V-kCO
[16:08] <ali1234> orico seem to specialize in these hubs
[16:10] <Tenkawa> bbl
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[16:11] <ali1234> http://www.amazon.co.uk/ORICO-Aluminium-Power-Adapter-Connecting/dp/B00NAMKDDY/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1451488244&sr=1-5&keywords=orico+usb
[16:12] <t3chguy> no
[16:12] <t3chguy> can't have 15
[16:12] <t3chguy> thats a terrible number
[16:12] <t3chguy> must be a multiple of 8 xD
[16:12] <t3chguy> £70!!!
[16:13] <ali1234> http://www.amazon.co.uk/ORICO-Charging-Switchs-Compatible-Samsung/dp/B00JP47EFG/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_8?ie=UTF8&dpID=419Aq%2BeqYlL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=108GQ1JKR9N0AEV2RFAW
[16:13] <ali1234> check the "frequently bought together" - USB powered fan
[16:13] <Encrypt> That's terrible that there are only "hubs" for USB devices...
[16:14] <t3chguy> Encrypt: wat
[16:14] <t3chguy> you can get Ethernet HUBS
[16:14] <t3chguy> even though they are really not very useful
[16:14] <Encrypt> t3chguy, It would be great to produce devices similar to switches
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[16:14] <ali1234> USB hubs are like ethernet switches anyway
[16:14] <t3chguy> lol ali1234
[16:14] <t3chguy> just stick one of those Fans into each port
[16:14] <Encrypt> They duplicate data on each port normally
[16:15] <ali1234> t3chguy: you put in 9 miners and a fan to keep them cool
[16:15] <ali1234> Encrypt: USB can only have one host and it must initiate the comms, so there's no point in having a true switch
[16:15] <t3chguy> lol ali1234
[16:16] <ali1234> t3chguy: http://30btc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/usb-bitcoin-mining-rig.jpg
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[16:17] <t3chguy> holy hell ali1234
[16:17] <t3chguy> why are there less in the Silver ones>
[16:17] <ali1234> those miners aren't cheap
[16:17] <t3chguy> oh they're just moved back
[16:17] <t3chguy> due to no fan
[16:17] <ali1234> well, they weren't when new
[16:17] <ali1234> ah yeah
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[16:18] <Zackio> hmm
[16:19] <Zackio> is there a program where i can have a pi, connected over wifi, and plugged into HDMI, act as a second monitor for my computer?
[16:19] <Zackio> like, HDMI over IP
[16:19] <ali1234> there's no simple solution for that
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[16:19] <Zackio> damn
[16:19] <Zackio> welp, time to research!
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[16:23] <JakeSays> so turns out the pitft is pretty slick. i almost have it integrated in to ugfx, which gives me a nice little UI w/o X
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[16:25] <mtk2001> Has anyone managed to get multi touch working on the 7 inch raspi displa
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[16:45] <t3chguy> ali1234: when you gonna get started on this cluster ;)
[16:45] <ali1234> when there's no longer a limit on how many zeros you can buy
[16:45] <t3chguy> lol
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[16:48] <Mr_Sheesh> I'm guessing since the comms are all serial it'd be a lil slow
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[16:50] <t3chguy> I'll do a network speed test in a sec :P
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[16:53] <t3chguy> besides
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[16:53] <t3chguy> its a raspberry pi
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[16:53] <t3chguy> its not meant to be fast
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[17:29] <t3chguy> ali1234: I'll probably a mini server-rack style thing to act as a docking tower for Pi Zeros, maybe along with a fan fitted across the side
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[17:30] <t3chguy> out of lasercut Acrylic of 3D Printed
[17:30] <t3chguy> also, once they are out of such high demand
[17:30] <t3chguy> at the point that I can order 8 at the same time :P
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[17:33] <t3chguy> lol
[17:34] <t3chguy> pi Zero fits in those large Tic Tac boxe
[17:34] <t3chguy> pi Zero fits in those large Tic Tac boxes *
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[17:56] <fragmint> I have a bit of an issue, I tried warming my RPi up in the microwave but its still really tough and tastes burnt
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[17:57] <fragmint> also, I just installed raspbian and don't remember what the default root password is
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[17:58] <fluffet> pi//raspberry i think
[17:58] <fluffet> but i think root account is disabled by default?
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[17:58] <fragmint> I'm really impressed with the zero so far
[17:59] <fragmint> performance is miles ahead of my VIA EPIA M5000 or PogoPlug Pink
[17:59] <t3chguy> fragmint: you seen its USB Gadget functionality?
[17:59] <t3chguy> where you can use a MicroUSB Cable and connect it to a PC and it'll act similar to an Android Phone
[17:59] <t3chguy> where it can share network, serial, storage etc
[17:59] <fragmint> saw the post on hackaday
[18:00] <t3chguy> fragmint: ali and I have the same idea of clustering Pi Zeros using only a single Cable to each :P
[18:01] <fragmint> so with 8 of them you can get the same specs and performance as something like an MTK at twice the price and 10x the power consumption?
[18:02] <t3chguy> MTK?
[18:02] <fragmint> mediatek chips
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[18:02] <t3chguy> still, cheaper than the original Pi clusters people made
[18:02] <t3chguy> and much neater
[18:03] <fragmint> I'm a huge fan of the size, I just wasn't a huge fan of the other pis
[18:03] <t3chguy> http://regmedia.co.uk/2012/09/12/supercomputer_raspberry_pi_2.jpg
[18:03] <myself> shame an nvidia tk1 has more computing power in a single board.. :P
[18:03] <fragmint> I think I've seen that, I'm in a terminal on my TV so can't pull up links
[18:04] <fragmint> were those the ones that had the compute module on a ram stick?
[18:04] <myself> fragmint: for warming it up in the microwave, be sure to add a cup of water as an absorber so the excess microwaves have somewhere to go, it'll make it less likely to burn out your magnetron trying.
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[18:05] <myself> also you can totally make popcorn by arranging 4 rpi's in a circle and sending PWM on all gpio pins
[18:05] <fragmint> because I'm on a RPi right now, can someone explain to me the differences between the pi, pi2 and zero? I know the mem/cpu diffs but not sure what else there is
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[18:07] <ziesemer> The pi2 is basically an upgraded pi. (Much better CPU, 2x the memory, I believe.)
[18:07] <traeak> was wondering about compiling ioquake3 urban terror
[18:07] <traeak> to see if that can run full urban terror
[18:07] <traeak> hmm
[18:07] <ziesemer> The Zero is a "minimalist" Pi. Pretty much the same chipset and such - but I believe just 1 USB port, no network port, etc.
[18:08] <traeak> the rpi soc hasonly one usb anyways i think
[18:08] * fragmint shrugs
[18:08] <traeak> the rpi2, b, etc have a hub chip
[18:08] <fragmint> as long as its quicker than my VIA EPIA M5000... that thing was horribly slow
[18:08] <tommy``> is there here someone with Kali on macos?
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[18:09] <fragmint> this pi zero stomps it in every area at roughly 1% the cost
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[18:09] <fragmint> are they all arm1176?
[18:11] <fragmint> and what else is out there OS wise besides RiscOS and Raspbian/Arch? No QNX or VXWorks makes me unhappy
[18:16] <traeak> void linux :-p
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[18:17] <fragmint> do these have hardware FPU?
[18:18] <traeak> rpi ??
[18:18] <traeak> there's an rpi void linux
[18:19] <fragmint> yes, rpi
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[18:19] <t3chguy> fragmint: I believe Raspberry Pi's have hardware FPU yes
[18:19] <brianx> is this a 2b fragmint?
[18:19] <fragmint> 2b?
[18:20] <brianx> raspberry pi 2 b. the quad core with 1gb ram.
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[18:20] <fragmint> no, zero
[18:20] <brianx> ahh
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[18:20] <fragmint> I've played with other arm boards before and slower boards from other architectures so I'm not new to the whole SOC thing... just pi
[18:21] <brianx> the zero will run anything the classic pis will run. there's a variant of fedora called pidora, but it's dated.
[18:21] <fragmint> my whole issue I want a lot more of these things and it took me a month of searching to get one at $5
[18:21] <traeak> as i mentioned smetime ago, the rpi2 runs chromiumRPI tolerably
[18:21] <brianx> tbh, i've mostly been focusing on getting networking to work on the zero so far.
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[18:22] <fragmint> is that chromeos?
[18:22] <traeak> tolerably enough for kiosk use
[18:22] <traeak> yes
[18:22] <t3chguy> fragmint: thats because a lot are wanted
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[18:22] <fragmint> dangit, I want one of those now
[18:23] <fragmint> if I recall correctly you can install debian in chromeos and chroot into it on a lot of them
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[18:23] <brianx> wait a little longer and maybe the pine64 will actually become reality. looks pretty promising.
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[18:24] <fragmint> a17 pi or something?
[18:24] <brianx> not sure what chip it uses. it's a kickstarter still.
[18:25] <brianx> not a raspberry at all though.
[18:25] <fragmint> the newer arm cores offer so much better on-paper performance compared to what I assume is armv6 in here
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[18:26] <fragmint> real world usage is a completely different matter
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[18:26] <brianx> ARMv6 architecture, yes
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[18:28] <fragmint> I'm just angry all the newer cheap chinese chips have really weird issues, I ran an RK3066 stick for years and the performance on this thing isn't that far off from it
[18:30] <brianx> it's a chinese world. (sung to the tune of "it's a windows world")
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[18:34] <fragmint> ewww, does Raspbian load a UK keymap by default or did I misclick in the setup?
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[18:35] <brianx> easy enough to change. i would assume UK is default.
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[18:36] <brianx> raspi-config lets you fix it. been awhile since i've set up raspbian with a head.
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[18:43] <fragmint> man, I really can't believe how much better this performs, I'm running a dist-upgrade and my whole system isn't completely locked up
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[18:44] <fragmint> can't wait to see how pianobar runs on here, on a marvell kirkwood (1.2ghz ArmV5) it would completely peg a core
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[18:46] <brianx> fragmint: you can also tweak the throttling setting if you want. i noticed mine defaulted to not upping the cpu frequency until load was over 50% for a bit.
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[18:46] <danieli> i prefer the pegasusq governor on my pi, works better than ondemand and performance
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[18:47] <danieli> fragmint: I would hardly survice (patience wise) if it locked up like that
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[18:50] <Tenkawa> Any of you tried an actual emmc module on a pi2?
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[18:52] <brianx> Tenkawa: how would you hook up emmc?
[18:54] <Tenkawa> via usb
[18:54] <brianx> how would that help then? usb 2.0 would be a bottleneck, woudn't it?
[18:55] <Tenkawa> true however on chip latency would still be reduced
[18:55] <brianx> how would latency improve with all the overhead of usb?
[18:56] <Tenkawa> wouldnt the on chip bus io bypass some of the overhead
[18:56] <Tenkawa> ?
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[18:56] <Tenkawa> it would be nominal at best however i am urious
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[18:56] <Tenkawa> er curious
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[18:57] <brianx> no clue, my inclination is to assume no.
[18:57] <gagalicious> how do i increase the number of desktops in my raspberry pi?
[18:57] <fragmint> whats that exynos board from korea that lets you add emmc?
[18:57] <gagalicious> the number of virtual desktops
[18:58] <gagalicious> raspbian lastestOS
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[18:58] <gagalicious> does anyone know?i cant seem to find how to increase the number of virtual desktops in raspberry pi
[18:58] <Tenkawa> anyone know the pin numbers by memory to hook up serial console to a pi 2?
[18:58] <traeak> google is your friend :-p
[18:58] <Tenkawa> i know
[18:58] <Tenkawa> i was hoping to avoid that
[18:59] <Tenkawa> i "use" to remember this by memory
[18:59] <gagalicious> google gives outdated info for what i need
[19:00] <gordonDrogon> Tenkawa, physical, or bcm pin numbers?
[19:00] <Tenkawa> gordonDrogon: phys
[19:00] <Tenkawa> my board and cable are sitting here beside me however currently no graphics browser access
[19:01] <Tenkawa> just need tx rx and ground pin #
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> 8 & 10
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[19:01] <Tenkawa> no ground?
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> ok, 6 0v
[19:01] <Tenkawa> thank you
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> if you have wiringPi installed, then: gpio readall
[19:03] <Tenkawa> here we go
[19:04] <gordonDrogon> to infinity... beyond?
[19:04] <Tenkawa> haahaaa
[19:05] <Tenkawa> yay success
[19:05] <Tenkawa> thanks agaon
[19:05] <Tenkawa> er again
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[19:05] <gagalicious> how do i increase the number of virtual desktops in my raspberry pi?
[19:06] <t3chguy> gagalicious: what Desktop Environment are you running?
[19:06] <gagalicious> raspbian jessie
[19:06] <t3chguy> thats the distro
[19:06] <t3chguy> not the DE
[19:07] <gagalicious> the default then of raspbian jessie
[19:07] <gagalicious> i dunno what's the DE of it. how to find out?
[19:07] <t3chguy> best asking in #raspbian
[19:09] <fragmint> I think its lightdm
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[19:10] <gagalicious> so how do i increase the number of workspace / virtual desktops in lightdm?
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[19:11] <t3chguy> ask #raspbian or the lightdm channel probably
[19:11] <gagalicious> ...
[19:11] <gagalicious> is this channel fpr hacking raspberry pi?
[19:11] * fragmint beats his RPI with a stick
[19:12] <fragmint> I did not realize this thing pushes audio through hdmi
[19:12] <gagalicious> i really hoped that raspberry pi zero comes with ethernet. i hope the next version comes with usb 3.0 and gigabit ethernet
[19:12] <t3chguy> gagalicious: it has OTG
[19:12] <t3chguy> you can use either OTG->Ethernet or g_ether
[19:12] <gagalicious> otg stable?
[19:12] <gagalicious> i used usb ethernet in the past. heavy loads gets loads of crash / disconnects
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[19:13] <t3chguy> gagalicious: the Ethernet on raspberry pi is a USB one, its just on-board
[19:13] <t3chguy> that just shows you had a really tacky USB to Ethernet adapter
[19:14] <t3chguy> you can also get GPIO (SPI) Ethernet port for the Zero (or all Pis really)
[19:14] <gagalicious> t3chguy : yearh, u never know what's compatible with what
[19:14] <traeak> could be power issue too
[19:14] <t3chguy> its called the ENC28J60
[19:14] <traeak> i have an old 1.1 smc usb adapter
[19:14] <traeak> somewhere...
[19:15] <fragmint> gagalicious, I'm connected over a hub hooked up to the OTG with a half dozen things hooked into it
[19:15] <traeak> i bought it for one of the very very early hackable all in one screens. can't remember the name of it...i think it may have used a cyrix processor or something
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[19:16] <traeak> man now i want to look that up...it was subsidized but coudl be hacked
[19:16] <gagalicious> fragmint: 3 possibilities. 1. u r a light user. 2. u r lucky. 3. RPi is really solid. i doubt the latter
[19:17] <traeak> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-Opener
[19:17] <traeak> yeah...released 1999 or so...hacked one of these but never really used it
[19:17] <fragmint> I'm doing a git clone while running pianobar
[19:17] <traeak> winchip c6 hehe
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[19:20] <fluffet> what is a ceramic heater in regards to a soldering stick?
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[19:20] <fluffet> does that mean it's heated via som sort of thing you attach?
[19:20] <t3chguy> fluffet: soldering "STICK"
[19:20] <fluffet> well :D
[19:20] <fluffet> i'm not a native english speaker
[19:20] <fluffet> i call it what i want!
[19:21] <fluffet> what are they called then!? soldering iron??
[19:21] <fluffet> pens?
[19:21] <t3chguy> iron, yes
[19:21] <fragmint> traeak, do you know if the geode is related to the older cyrix chips? I know cyrix merged with natsemi, got sold to VIA then they sold off MediaGX to AMD which was rebranded to GEODE
[19:21] <t3chguy> the other form is a gun
[19:21] <t3chguy> the ceramic heater is likely the thing heating the iron up
[19:22] <fluffet> well okay
[19:22] <fluffet> do you need a holder or stuff for it or are you fine without
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[19:23] <fluffet> t3chguy: to continue our discussion from yesterday; this should do, right? http://puu.sh/mdT7Z/1989600cd3.png
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[19:23] <fluffet> 3 meter strips, a 8A 5v adapter, some fem/fem cables as i already have male/male and a breadboard
[19:24] <fluffet> and then a soldering iron, because i am going to need it at some point
[19:24] <t3chguy> sure
[19:24] <t3chguy> though I've never used those LEDs before
[19:24] <fragmint> who makes an 8a 5v adapter?
[19:24] <t3chguy> a few companies
[19:24] <t3chguy> I just use an ATX Supply
[19:25] <fragmint> my bench supply can barely do that
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[19:25] <t3chguy> 5v@30A
[19:25] <t3chguy> 3v3@24A
[19:25] <t3chguy> 12v@26A
[19:25] <t3chguy> all at the same time :3
[19:26] <fragmint> isn't it bad to run them without load resistors on the unused lines?
[19:26] <fluffet> well, i'm going to need a lot of ampere to drive 3m of led strips right?
[19:26] <fluffet> or will 4A be enough for 3 meters?
[19:26] <fluffet> with 30 leds/meter
[19:27] <t3chguy> look at the datasheet fluffet, all LEDs are different
[19:27] <t3chguy> besides, you don't mention the current draw per metre
[19:27] <t3chguy> meter*
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[19:29] <fragmint> wow, we're down to 20% cpu usage with pianobar running... this thing rocks
[19:29] <t3chguy> and no fragmint, otherwise PC Supplies would die as most people don't have 3 GPUs connected etc
[19:30] <fragmint> I mean not running anything off 3v3 or 5v but using the 12v line
[19:31] <t3chguy> its worked fine for me for 13 months now
[19:31] <t3chguy> and I most often only use the 5v Rail
[19:32] <t3chguy> the switch mode regulator does have to compensate for the lack of use, but all modern supplies are fine doing this
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[19:33] <fragmint> I can't remember much about their layout off the top of my head but there is also a trick to change the voltage of the rails while retaining overcurrent/undervoltage protection
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[19:35] <traeak> fragmint: i totally fergot
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[19:37] <fragmint> and I just managed to knock out the plug powering my pi while fiddling with my USB DAC
[19:37] <fragmint> there can be only one solution... another pi running ZNC for IRC-Redundancy!
[19:38] <t3chguy> lol
[19:38] <t3chguy> not redundant at all
[19:38] <t3chguy> if you kill ZNC
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[19:46] <fragmint> huh... my C-Media USB sound card worked on the last arch install I had but it seems to be giving me an issue on raspbian
[19:47] <gagalicious> how much can i overclock rpi 2 safely?
[19:47] <fragmint> shows up in volume controls and alsa mixer, snd_usb_audio is loaded, card lights up but no output
[19:49] <t3chguy> gagalicious: the chips aren't binned, so it will differ on each SoC
[19:49] <gagalicious> what's the default password for rpi 2 jessie os?
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[19:49] <Apocx> try raspberry
[19:49] <exonormal> pi?
[19:49] <gagalicious> t3chguy: ok. thanks.
[19:49] <fragmint> name is pi pass is raspberry
[19:49] <Tenkawa> its on the wiki page isnt it?
[19:49] <gagalicious> pi is not the pi password.
[19:50] <t3chguy> its raspberry
[19:50] <t3chguy> fragmint: just said it
[19:50] <t3chguy> the username is "pi"
[19:50] <gagalicious> yes. raspberry works. thanks
[19:50] <t3chguy> password is "raspberry"
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[19:51] <fragmint> great, now I'm going to go crazy trying to figure out why this isn't working =/
[19:52] <gagalicious> what kind of cool things u can run raspberry pi with?
[19:52] <SpeedEvil> gagalicious: anything you can do with a slow linux system
[19:52] <Tenkawa> SpeedEvil: slow?
[19:52] <gagalicious> node.js doesnt seem so slow on an RPI though i heard.
[19:53] <Tenkawa> you can make plenty of fast stuff with it
[19:53] <SpeedEvil> It is slow, for most tasks, compared to a normal linux system with decent IO
[19:53] <gagalicious> i hope the next rpi will be usb3.0, gigabit ethernet + 64bit and 1gb ram, powered by 2USB cables. that'll be all i need
[19:53] <SpeedEvil> It is not absolutely slow
[19:54] <gagalicious> i always wonder if rpi2 is slow coz of the sdcard or just slow cozit'sslow?
[19:54] <[Saint]> gagalicious: PLEASE tell me you're being humorous.
[19:54] <[Saint]> If you're not, you need to seriously rethink what you think a raspi is, or what it achieves.
[19:54] <Tenkawa> SpeedEvil: ok i'll go with it having io bottlenecks
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[19:54] <gagalicious> i'm running 30mb/s sdcard. bought a 90mb/s transcend which will be shipped within 2 weeks. i wonder...
[19:55] <[Saint]> irrelevant.
[19:55] <[Saint]> you'll never see transfer speeds like that on a pi.
[19:55] <[Saint]> like, ever.
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[19:55] <[Saint]> never never never.
[19:55] <gagalicious> [Saint]: is that a lot to ask for? 2xUSB power and the rest... it's great for a 64bit server. i can run NAS/webserver etc. anything!
[19:55] <Tenkawa> I wonder how much i can squeeze out of my mips box
[19:55] <exonormal> well maybe do update and upgrade on that pi?
[19:55] <[Saint]> gagalicious: yes, it is.
[19:55] <[Saint]> especially if you want it at the same price.
[19:56] <gagalicious> [Saint]: what's the realistic speed i'll be looking at with 90mb/s card?
[19:56] <[Saint]> ~10MB/s *maaaaaaybe*
[19:56] <gagalicious> electronic stuffs are supposed to drop in prices over time.
[19:56] <Tenkawa> gagalicious: 64 bit?
[19:56] <[Saint]> It doesn't even support UHS.
[19:56] <gagalicious> it's called moore's law.
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[19:56] <[Saint]> We've been approaching that limit where moore's law falls over for years my man.
[19:56] <gagalicious> really? 10mb/s? coz i'm running30mb/s and i bought 90mb/s hoping for a speed up. nowi know
[19:56] <[Saint]> we're pretty much there already.
[19:57] <gagalicious> Tenkawa: why not 64 bit?
[19:57] <[Saint]> gagalicious: I highly suspect that ~30MB/s was mismeasured by improperly flushing caches.
[19:57] <[Saint]> you were probably just measuring RAM.
[19:57] <gagalicious> it's great if i can test it on RPI before migrate to server or vice versa
[19:58] <[Saint]> and even so, you'd have been measuring contiguous reads and writes, which the system will almost never do.
[19:58] <gagalicious> anyway, it's slow. raspbian jessie... seemed faster than the previous raspbian i've used. a little faster.
[19:58] <[Saint]> So you'll never see speeds like that in real use.
[19:58] <Tenkawa> gagalicious: not a 64 bit cpu and even if... theres other limits
[19:58] <[Saint]> Bulk contiguous IO almost never happens in everyday use.
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[19:59] <[Saint]> There's boards that have everything you wan tthat exist already.
[19:59] <[Saint]> you just have to be prepared to pay more than $35 for them.
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[19:59] <gagalicious> seriously, 64bit, 1gb ram 2xUsb power, gigabit ethernet, 1gb ram. sure i'll pay double. coz it's double of everything
[19:59] <gagalicious> usb3.0 will be great
[19:59] <Tenkawa> [Saint]: mysql test runs can be "interesting"
[19:59] <gagalicious> yeah of course. test runs are great
[19:59] <[Saint]> Tenkawa: Ha! :)
[20:00] <Tenkawa> [Saint]: especially with that io footprint
[20:00] <[Saint]> Tenkawa: postgres is better on pi, but, not by much. Especially for multi-user-access dbs.
[20:00] <gagalicious> [Saint]: popularity is why i buy RPI as well. coz i can always replace them easily. and more docs and this channel is great aswell
[20:00] <Tenkawa> indeed.. could you imagine trying to run oracle rdbms?
[20:00] <Tenkawa> if they had a version
[20:00] <[Saint]> gagalicious: you'd be better off buying something that runs a mainline debian.
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[20:01] <gagalicious> i really like running it with 5W usb cables.
[20:01] <gagalicious> it's really "cool" literally.
[20:01] <gagalicious> cooler than running multiple 90W stuff
[20:01] * Tenkawa enjoys almost running all non-x86 now
[20:01] <SpeedEvil> I note that my intel haswell I3 system is right now using 22W wallplug
[20:01] <SpeedEvil> (with me typing this)
[20:02] <gagalicious> SpeedEvil: what wallplug is that?
[20:02] <SpeedEvil> cheapest couple of year old haswell I3, cheapest motherboard
[20:02] <fragmint> the new atoms have really low power consumption
[20:02] <SpeedEvil> wallplug = power at teh wall
[20:02] <Tenkawa> all arm and mips for my main stuff
[20:02] <[Saint]> Tenkawa: do you hate youself THAT much?
[20:02] <Tenkawa> why?
[20:02] <gagalicious> SpeedEvil: is there a name for your motherboard? imean a brand of the pc?
[20:02] <Tenkawa> it works great for me
[20:03] <[Saint]> ARM just isn't ready for mainstream server deployment.
[20:03] <[Saint]> I wish it was.
[20:03] <[Saint]> It isn't.
[20:03] <Tenkawa> mips is though
[20:03] <[Saint]> But MIPs is MIPs. ;)
[20:03] <exonormal> gagalicious: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/139108638/lattepanda-a-45-win10-computer-for-everything?ref=category
[20:03] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[20:03] <gagalicious> 22W for a 54W cpu?
[20:03] <fragmint> didn't fujitsu deploy mips servers?
[20:03] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebuyer.com/546370-asus-h81m-a-socket-1150-dvi-hdmi-8-channel-hd-audio-uatx-motherboard-h81m-a
[20:03] <Tenkawa> fragmint: sounds vaguely familiar
[20:04] <SpeedEvil> gagalicious: 35W TDP - it powersaves well
[20:04] <fragmint> like in the 90s I think, there was a whole "mips is the future" thing for a few years that fizzled
[20:04] <[Saint]> fragmint: like ARM now, I guess.
[20:04] <gagalicious> SpeedEvil: So how do u run that with 22W? it's still 4x RPI...
[20:04] <Tenkawa> they all have their place still
[20:04] <SpeedEvil> gagalicious: what do you mean.
[20:04] <fragmint> wait, wasn't all of SGI's old stuff mips?
[20:04] <SpeedEvil> gagalicious: old 80% PSU
[20:04] <Tenkawa> yes
[20:05] <[Saint]> Just as we're approaching widespread ARM deployment, some idiot silicon vendor will re-invent "the future", and, rinse, repeat.
[20:05] <Tenkawa> sgi was mips on irix
[20:05] <[Saint]> Ad nauseum.
[20:05] <gagalicious> SpeedEvil: oh ok. i didnt know it can run wihtout full power
[20:05] <Tenkawa> i think
[20:05] <fragmint> I still want an octane or two... dozen
[20:05] <gagalicious> Cubox is what i hope will be as cheap as RPI
[20:05] <SpeedEvil> gagalicious: modern CPUs will all powersave considerably when not being run full out
[20:05] <[Saint]> Something something 'year of the linux desktop and ARM server"
[20:05] <[Saint]> kek
[20:05] <Tenkawa> my first cubox burned up
[20:06] <Tenkawa> think i had incosistent power to it
[20:06] <[Saint]> I managed to set fire to a pogoplug the other day.
[20:06] <[Saint]> No idea how.
[20:06] <fragmint> =O
[20:06] <Tenkawa> oh wow
[20:06] <Tenkawa> ouch
[20:06] <SpeedEvil> [Saint]: skill!
[20:06] <fragmint> which one?
[20:06] <[Saint]> found it all melted on the flor.
[20:06] <[Saint]> Dripping out of the wall socket.
[20:06] <Tenkawa> [Saint]: seriously?
[20:06] <[Saint]> Yup.
[20:07] <Tenkawa> thats scary
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[20:07] <gagalicious> Lattepanda... is 32bit? 64bit and popular and i'll definitely buy
[20:08] <exonormal> lol
[20:08] <[Saint]> There's NO need for 64 address space for sub-3GB RAM, really.
[20:08] <Tenkawa> agreed
[20:08] <[Saint]> Slightly better instruction set, but, that's about it.
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[20:08] <gagalicious> i wish to test my deployment on it with same config so i can just transfer to my 64 bit server
[20:08] <[Saint]> 64 bit is largely marketing noise.
[20:08] <Tenkawa> the pine64 is going to have problems in that arena i think
[20:08] * [Saint] nods
[20:09] <gagalicious> i just want the compatibility with my 64 bit servers
[20:09] <Tenkawa> gagalicious: what "compatibility"
[20:09] <Tenkawa> you arent going to be using same binaries/software
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[20:09] <gagalicious> i do have special requirements needing to workon 64bits
[20:09] <Tenkawa> most likely
[20:09] <[Saint]> Perhaps the magic world where 64bit silicon doesn't run 32bit binaries?
[20:10] <gagalicious> that's why i need them to work on both 64bits instead of swtiching the binaies/software
[20:10] <Tenkawa> huh?
[20:10] <[Saint]> you don't need to.
[20:10] <[Saint]> you seem confused gagalicious
[20:10] <gagalicious> i'm not confused.
[20:10] <[Saint]> I assure you you are.
[20:10] <[Saint]> Perhaps deluded. Mistaken at best.
[20:11] <gagalicious> ok let's say i wrote programs for 64 bit linux only. so i need that to be able to run on 64bit architecture
[20:11] <Tenkawa> how are you "writing" them 64 bit only
[20:11] <Tenkawa> ?
[20:11] <gagalicious> like 64bit linux kernel
[20:11] <gagalicious> compiled for 64bit only
[20:11] <Tenkawa> that has nothing to do with code execution
[20:12] <Tenkawa> how do you know its compiled for 64 bit only?
[20:12] <gagalicious> that's how my program runs
[20:12] * [Saint] nods and backs away slowly
[20:12] <exonormal> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-15-64-bit-single-board-super-comput
[20:13] <gagalicious> one thing i hate about buying from kickstarter.... u never know if they are going to live / die
[20:13] <fragmint> great... my usb soundcard works great off pulseaudio but when playing a song through pianobar it pegs the cpu for 30 seconds and sounds like poo
[20:14] <exonormal> lol
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[20:14] <gagalicious> exonormal: wow. thanks. u are amazing. i really hope the Pine A64+ will be everywhere
[20:15] <exonormal> eventually... yw
[20:15] <fragmint> must be some weird samplerate conversion going on... now I get to dust off the 1000+ page tomes of documentation to try to remember how to troubleshoot these darn things
[20:15] <[Saint]> fragmint: uuuugh - sounds like my week last week.
[20:16] <[Saint]> I had alsamixer and pulseaudio fighting each other for my mixer card.
[20:16] <[Saint]> adjust one, the other went batcrap crazy.
[20:16] <[Saint]> rinse, repeat.
[20:17] <fragmint> yeah, I don't remember why but I always liked alsamixer a lot better... until something breaks
[20:18] <fragmint> er alsa in general
[20:18] <[Saint]> alsa is largely fine.
[20:18] <[Saint]> alsamixer is a bag of crap.
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[20:19] <fragmint> this is weird, I'm getting higher voltage on the aux out then I used to with my rpi
[20:20] <gagalicious> pine64 is raelly great!
[20:20] <[Saint]> fragmint: oh god, this is sounding very close to my issues...
[20:20] <fragmint> higher voltage is good!
[20:20] <[Saint]> fragmint: I had my "100%" volume overdriving to +12dB.
[20:20] <exonormal> yes it is, but more expensive
[20:20] <[Saint]> Which is very /non/ good.
[20:20] <fragmint> its -3!... I think, I'm about to whip out the scope to check on things
[20:21] <fragmint> supposedly -3db
[20:21] <[Saint]> Odd.
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[20:23] <gagalicious> cant believe so many buyers for pine64... the thing that bugs me is... so many "pre-buy" for something that ships 3 months thereafter... that's kind of ... strange to me. i'm sure their price will dropped 3 months later.
[20:24] <Tenkawa> dont count on it
[20:24] <Tenkawa> its already quite low
[20:25] <gagalicious> yeah but their shipping is expensive
[20:26] <fragmint> this is driving me crazy, what was that other exynos based arm board from korea that took 2 months to ship and shipping was as expensive as the board?
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[20:27] <repxxl> hey, im able to get so many arduino sensors also on the raspberry pi ?
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[20:29] <gagalicious> fragmint: yeah... shipment is as expensive as the board... kinda stupid isnt it?
[20:29] <gagalicious> will wait for them to get distributors around my area and save the container shipment cost
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[20:29] <[Saint]> God I hate the consumer market these days.
[20:29] <Tenkawa> fragmint: do you mean something not samsung?
[20:29] <[Saint]> So much entitlement.
[20:30] <Tenkawa> ahhh
[20:30] <Tenkawa> fragmint: odroid?
[20:30] <Tenkawa> or arndale
[20:30] <[Saint]> "Stoopid board is so expensive, and shipping it from the other side of the world is too - why isn't it $35, like raspi!"
[20:31] <[Saint]> >.>
[20:31] <[Saint]> 'cos, development, from small fabs - that's why.
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[20:31] <[Saint]> If RPF wasn't fellating Broadcomm, the Pi would be a similar price point.
[20:31] <Tenkawa> fragmint: the hardkernel and arndale boards are the only exynos ones coming to mind for me besides samsung atm
[20:31] <[Saint]> errr...whoops, that's not particularly family friendly.
[20:31] <[Saint]> Sorry.
[20:32] <[Saint]> But the point stands.
[20:32] <[Saint]> The Pi is only the price it is because of the BCM relationship.
[20:33] <[Saint]> I could probably do a similar thing if I was in bed with a major silicon fabricant with a craptonne of leftover stocks.
[20:33] <Tenkawa> heheehe
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[20:36] <gagalicious> is there an irc channel where i can ask about what's the best programmer's keyboard? coz my fingers is sore typing in this channel
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[20:37] <fragmint> aren't allwinners <$1?
[20:37] <Tenkawa> fragmint: eh?
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[20:37] <fragmint> I'm just saying, I thought stuff like the allwinner a10 was <$1 and had gpio but noone actually populates it on their boards
[20:38] <Tenkawa> ah.. no idea.. did my response to your earlier question seem familiar at all?
[20:38] <fragmint> stepped off for more coffee, missed it
[20:39] <fragmint> yep, odroid was it
[20:39] <Tenkawa> I found arndale and hardkernel odroid boxes.. were either of those the one you were thinking of?
[20:39] <Tenkawa> ok cool
[20:39] <Tenkawa> I thought about getting one or two of those a few times now
[20:40] * ozzzy just got another OTT box in
[20:41] <t3chguy> well I was about to preorder the Pine64+, then I thought, WHY, I have too many things I've not had chance to use yet xD
[20:41] <t3chguy> if its actually any good, I'll buy it in 6 month
[20:41] <t3chguy> s*
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[20:44] <fragmint> I don't get the whole higher performance arm chips, I feel intel atoms smoke them at a lower price since they're subsidized
[20:45] <t3chguy> I hate how it claims to be a supercomputer
[20:45] <exonormal> well the intel Atom chips handle Mint Mate fine...
[20:45] <t3chguy> and also the first 64bit Single board computer
[20:46] <t3chguy> which is bull, as phones are single board computers xD
[20:46] <Berg> I feel betrayed
[20:46] * Berg runs off to find cake
[20:46] <fragmint> pi, you mean pi!
[20:47] * t3chguy doesn't get a chance to tell Berg that the cake is a lie
[20:48] <Berg> it is the end of a year here and I have to find cake ...wish everyone good luck with projects and a mess a brilliant ideas to all
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[20:50] <mobyduck> I installed tightvncserver on the rpi I have connected to my TV (because I've misplaced all USB peripherals atm)
[20:51] <gagalicious> i really like low power 5W thing. coz for monitoring, it's really less warmer than a lot of same units with 90W... that doesnt do anything and u need to on 24/7
[20:51] <gagalicious> multiple units
[20:51] <mobyduck> can I actually use that to control what's shown on the TV screen?
[20:51] <t3chguy> mobyduck: if you configured it, yes
[20:52] <fragmint> does anyone know off the top of their head what would be the best resample method for pulse to use on a pi?
[20:53] <mobyduck> t3chguy: any idea what exactly I need to configure? When a friend connected to it with the builtin Mac OSX vnc client he controlled the TV, but when I connect with tightvncviewer I don't. Is this a setting I need to set on my client or on the serveR?
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[20:54] <willmore> Adafruit has pi0 in stock. 84 units. $10 shipping, though. Limit *one*.
[20:54] <t3chguy> oh you're probably connecting to an alternate display
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[20:54] <t3chguy> no idea how to get tightvncserver to force-connect to :0
[20:55] <exonormal> willmore: why so much?
[20:55] <mobyduck> t3chguy: thanks anyway
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[20:56] <t3chguy> shame about the Limit *one*
[20:56] <t3chguy> i'd have bought 7
[20:57] <Berg> share
[20:57] <t3chguy> (already have one, and another arriving tomorrow)
[20:57] <fragmint> is there a ghetto way to get IR input/output into a pi with LIRC and parts I may have kicking around?
[20:57] <t3chguy> fragmint: sure, kill something that has an IR Receiver
[20:57] <Berg> your dvd player
[20:57] <t3chguy> in the form of an IR tuned phototransistor or an IR Diode
[20:57] <t3chguy> such as your DVD Player
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[20:59] <fragmint> I know I've got something like that kicking around and I want IR control for this thing
[20:59] <t3chguy> then rip it out
[20:59] <t3chguy> and wire it in
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[21:00] <fragmint> pis have dac but no adc or is it the other way around?
[21:00] <t3chguy> they have one DAC, essentially
[21:00] <t3chguy> and no ADCs
[21:00] <t3chguy> well, since its two channel, two DACs?
[21:01] <t3chguy> but pretty sure they're built into the GPU
[21:01] <t3chguy> or something silly like that
[21:01] <fragmint> dont attinys have a few chans of adc on them?
[21:01] <t3chguy> yep
[21:01] <fragmint> seems like a waste to strap a full arduino to here when I can just multiplex things
[21:02] <t3chguy> a full arduino?
[21:02] <t3chguy> Arduino nanos are small and are $2
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[21:02] <t3chguy> (clones)
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[21:03] <fragmint> well, I've only got a spare uno
[21:03] <fragmint> oooh, that reminds me, I have a huge VFD I threw in a drawer and forgot about
[21:03] <uriah> so is everyone here going crazy for a pi zero on adafruit atm?
[21:03] <uriah> they're running out fast
[21:03] <fragmint> meh, I got mine for $5 total
[21:03] <uriah> ah ok
[21:04] <uriah> fragmint: from where? micro center?
[21:04] <fragmint> yeah, I only had to check their page twice a day for two weeks then drive over immediately
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[21:04] <fragmint> then spend the next hour trying to figure out where they hid them (hint, they're not on display anywhere)
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[21:05] <Tenkawa> fragmint: I missed getting one from micro center by 30 minutes
[21:05] <fragmint> I'm really impressed, my local microcenters tinkerers section almost rivals frys
[21:05] <Tenkawa> it was so annoying
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[21:05] <fragmint> frys has an entire aisle of NTE components but 90% of them are oddball things noone would ever use
[21:06] <Tenkawa> no frys here
[21:06] <Berg> we dont even have a micro center
[21:06] <Berg> its sad
[21:06] <fragmint> my local microcenter now has 78xx logic stuff, relays, mosfets, small transistors
[21:06] <uriah> 16 in stock lol
[21:06] <Tenkawa> at adafruit?
[21:07] <fragmint> I think they have some linear voltage regulators, and all the pi and arduino accessories you could want at a reasonable 20000% markup
[21:07] <uriah> Tenkawa: yeah
[21:07] <Berg> if i need parts i get all the tv's and printer etc i can find AND DE_SOLDER the parts
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[21:08] <fragmint> I've done that but I've just started buying cheap chinese parts and testing them before hand
[21:08] <Tenkawa> 10 left
[21:08] <Tenkawa> wow
[21:08] <Berg> c heap chinee parts dont last long
[21:08] <uriah> yup
[21:08] <uriah> lol
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[21:09] <fragmint> I dunno, caps and resistors and diodes and things like that seem to be decent... IC stuff I'd stay away from
[21:09] <ebarch> 4 left
[21:09] <Berg> it is 3.7meters from the back of my head to my rpi2 ultrasonic sensor
[21:10] <Idkidks> Hi again guys, I'm new, and I've gotten to the point where I put Ubuntu MATE (RPi supported) onto my microsd card. Supposedly it will format the card so I only have about 200mb left, but when I follow the instructions on the site to re-size it, it no longer boots.
[21:10] <fragmint> obviously they're not going to be as reliable as something from a quality japanese or american manufacturer but its not like half the stuff off the shelf at every store doesn't use the cheapest chinese crud possible
[21:10] <Idkidks> Anmy ideas?
[21:10] <exonormal> https://bits.debian.org/2015/12/mourning-ian-murdock.html
[21:11] <Idkidks> :(
[21:11] <Berg> thats a fact fragmint
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[21:11] <uriah> the budget packs are still in stock though
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[21:13] <Tenkawa> wonder why the shipping was so high
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[21:13] <Tenkawa> doesnt ups dictate that?
[21:13] <uriah> perhaps
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[21:15] <uriah> yeah ian murdock story is really sad :(
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[21:17] <fragmint> =(
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[21:19] <Eromenos_> Good evening all
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[21:19] <Eromenos_> i'm looking for a little help, i got a pi2 bi for christmas :)
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[21:20] <Eromenos_> is anyone around to give a little help? im trying to work out if my board is DOA or if im not flashing the sd card right
[21:21] <ShorTie> most likely flashing problems
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[21:21] <pksato> Eromenos_: Hi. jusk ask, and wait. give details.
[21:21] <ShorTie> how are you doing it ??
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[21:22] <Eromenos_> Hi Shortie, i'll mention first that i read that if the Green LED on the board is full on, that means its detected a bootable OS
[21:22] <Eromenos_> however my board has a full green LED and a full red LED if i power it on without the SD card inserted
[21:22] <Eromenos_> does that immediately signal anything wrong with the board?
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[21:23] <ShorTie> i'm 99.9999999999% sure is ok
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[21:24] <ShorTie> how are you writing the image and what speed is your sdcard ??
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[21:24] <Eromenos_> haha ok :). as for flashing the card: i've been using an old samsung ace (pre mtp), mounting it, using DD
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[21:24] <mobyduck> I should be able to start tightvncserver with the :0 option to get it to bind to the same display as HDMI. But X already owns that display... I'm uncertain what would be a good way to proceed
[21:24] <ShorTie> can't mount and use dd
[21:24] <MACscr> anyone know if there is an IRC channel that is dedicated to just single board computers in general? I love my pi2, but would love to talk about others as well
[21:24] <Eromenos_> i had a feeling itmight be this process because when i attempt to remount the card, the partitions have disappeared
[21:24] <mobyduck> just removing the lockfile seems like a dubious plan
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[21:26] <Eromenos_> ShorTie: im not sure how to tell teh details of teh sdcard
[21:26] <mobyduck> ... and the socket /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 is still blocking anyway...
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[21:27] <ShorTie> c/p your dd line Pleaze
[21:27] <Eromenos_> lemme dig it up
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[21:30] <Eromenos_> ShorTie: sudo dd bs=1M if=~/Downloads/2015-11-21-raspbian-jessie.img of=/dev/sdf
[21:30] <Eromenos_> sdf was the block device for the flash card on my android phone
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[21:33] <uriah> Eromenos_: just don't mount the sd card
[21:33] <uriah> Eromenos_: you need to run dd on it while unmounted
[21:33] <Eromenos_> you are right uriah and in fact i lied, i never mounted it
[21:33] <uriah> oh ok
[21:33] <Eromenos_> my mistake
[21:34] <uriah> also
[21:34] <uriah> [15:30] < Eromenos_> sdf was the block device for the flash card on my android phone
[21:34] <uriah> it might not be the same, depending on how you're connecting to the card atm
[21:34] <uriah> like, where is it plugged in?
[21:34] <uriah> sd card slot?
[21:34] <uriah> ls /dev/sd*
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[22:03] <t3chguy> fragmint: turns out I misread the specs of my PSU lol
[22:03] <t3chguy> not one 12v@26A, 2 of them xD
[22:04] <uriah> :-/
[22:04] * uriah wonders when his order will say shipped
[22:04] <fragmint> om nom nom
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[22:05] <fragmint> I use one to bench test amps but it still doesn't have enough power
[22:05] <fragmint> need to switch to a battery bank and a decent charger
[22:05] <t3chguy> lol
[22:05] <t3chguy> how many Amps you needing to pull?
[22:06] <fragmint> I'd like at least 200
[22:06] <fragmint> I can settle for 100 though
[22:06] <t3chguy> What do you have that even needs 100W?
[22:06] <t3chguy> A*
[22:06] <fragmint> amps
[22:06] <t3chguy> I have 3 ATX Supplies, I could easily supply 200A of any of the 3 main ATX Voltages :P
[22:07] <fragmint> I've popped a few
[22:07] <t3chguy> 850W, 650W and a 1.2kW
[22:07] <t3chguy> oh and maybe some old 350W lying around
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[22:07] <fragmint> I read the ratings on the side of the box, some "350w"s are stronger than "500w"s from other brands
[22:07] <fragmint> half the time they don't even add up
[22:08] <t3chguy> well my 350 is a no-name brand
[22:08] <t3chguy> my 650 and 1.2kW are EVGA
[22:08] <t3chguy> SuperNovas
[22:08] <fragmint> I still don't trust EVGA after spending something like a year doing nothing but recapping pretty much every product they ever made
[22:08] <t3chguy> weirdly the 1200 is currently more expensive than the 1300 lol
[22:08] <t3chguy> by £60
[22:10] <fragmint> I want more than just amperage, I want selectable load resistors, signl generators, ammeters, voltmeters, etc
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[22:11] <t3chguy> sounds like you want a fanceh bench supply
[22:11] <t3chguy> not gonna be cheap
[22:11] <fragmint> not buying one, building one
[22:11] <fragmint> I used to have a nice tektronix mainframe and Leader siggens but it all got stolen or sold
[22:12] <t3chguy> neat
[22:12] <fragmint> real hakko irons, not those pansy fisher price ones they try to sell today
[22:12] <t3chguy> not the stolen bit
[22:12] <repxxl> hey, i understand the raspberry but i have not yet come to a idea where to use it a economical use i mean not doing a robot lol that i would kick in a corner in 1 week
[22:12] <repxxl> anyone know a good website for rasp ideas that are really worth it.
[22:13] <fragmint> I had twin ghz timebases and mv accurate psu modules in that tek. =(
[22:13] <Eromenos_> hi again uriah. My flash card was definately sdf, i checked it before i used DD.
[22:13] <uriah> ok cool
[22:13] <Eromenos_> Has anyone here successfully flashed an SD card with an OS using an android phones SD card slot?
[22:13] <uriah> Eromenos_: what distribution were you running?
[22:13] <Eromenos_> right now, manjaro linux
[22:13] <fragmint> Eromenos_, I have
[22:14] <Eromenos_> i was trying to put raspbian on the SD card
[22:14] <Eromenos_> fragmint: help! :D
[22:14] <ebarch> repxxl: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1f607z/owners_of_a_raspberry_pi_what_do_you_use_it_for
[22:14] <uriah> Eromenos_: i would suggest getting an sd card reader for direct access to the card... not sure running it through the phone will work
[22:14] <Eromenos_> fragmint was this with an android connected via MTP?
[22:14] <uriah> MTP definitely won't work
[22:14] <fragmint> don't believe so, I think I did it on 2.3
[22:14] <Eromenos_> im using an old android version so its pre-MTP
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[22:15] <Eromenos_> did it just 'work' fragmint? Or was there some tinkering to be done
[22:15] <fragmint> the latter lead to the formr
[22:16] <Eromenos_> hah brilliant, ok can you give any tips? I tried flashing the SD card using DD but
[22:16] <Eromenos_> the pi won't boot. Im not sure if the os made it on or if the board is fried
[22:16] <fragmint> there was some weird app I used that wasn't on the google play store
[22:16] <fragmint> it wasn't in english and I don't remember what it was, I can try to google real quick though
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[22:17] <Idkidks> Hey, is there any way to install *buntu from the NOOBS image?
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[22:22] <fragmint> Eromenos_, looks like I was mistaken, I didn't flash an image to an SD card, I just unzipped a whole distro on to it
[22:23] <fragmint> oh god, I think my RPi or PSU is flaking out =/
[22:23] <vikaton> Ian murdock :(
[22:25] <myself> I bet #debian is nuts right now
[22:25] <myself> ahh, that points to #debian-offtopic
[22:25] <myself> I'm not sure if that's funny or sad
[22:27] <exonormal> well, the family asked for privacy... as if, respect...
[22:27] <myself> Yeah, I just mean that the channel is business-as-usual and paying respect is off-topic
[22:27] <Eromenos_> fragmint that worked? thats odd i would of thought something like dd is required to set the boot sector on the card
[22:27] <myself> that's some stalwart ops, right there
[22:29] <Eromenos_> has anyone here flashed an SD card with an OS using a digital camera's SD slot? or something similar perhaps? ~
[22:30] <fragmint> Eromenos_, I was putting linux on an android device, not a pi
[22:30] <Eromenos_> desperately trying to work out what im doing wrong xD if the board was DOA i could get it replaced but it might be something else ive done wrong
[22:30] <Eromenos_> ooooh, sorry fragmint i wasn't descriptive enough
[22:31] <Eromenos_> thinking about it thats really kewl, was that easy to do fragmint?
[22:31] <Eromenos_> i have some old galaxy ace's and similar rubbish phones that could be repurposed
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[22:34] <fragmint> Eromenos_, if someone else has already done all the hard work for you then yes
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[22:34] <Eromenos_> does anyone know about how to get the details of an SD card? I have this sandisk ultra 8gb but thats all i know how to tell about it. I wonder if its incompatible and my pi isnt detecting it?
[22:34] <Eromenos_> hah good answer fragmint
[22:34] <NahUndFern> Hey guys. I'm looking to get my first pi. I was looking up about PSU, and in some comments, i see people recommend getting a USB hub PSU. Is it worth it?
[22:35] <t3chguy> NahUndFern: why not just get the official one?
[22:35] <Eromenos_> NahUndFern i would think that is something you could look to get when you definately need extra usb ports for your pi?
[22:35] <fragmint> has there ever been a documented pi fight in here?
[22:36] <Eromenos_> isnt the PSU as easy as a micro usb connector that plugs into the wall, they come with almost every smart phone
[22:36] <Eromenos_> pi... fight? xD
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[22:36] <NahUndFern> t3chguy, Isn't the official one only available in the UK?
[22:36] <fragmint> where people hit each other with pi's until either the person or the pi breaks
[22:36] <t3chguy> yes Eromenos_, just of a high enough current and a low enough voltage drop
[22:37] <t3chguy> NahUndFern: doubt it as it has like every countries' outlet on it
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[22:41] <Eromenos_> out of interest t3chguy , would a typical usb2 on a desktop pc be enough to power a pi?
[22:41] <t3chguy> Eromenos_: typical is 200mA-500mA, so most likely yes up to a point
[22:41] <Eromenos_> thats kewl ( its not because of power mine isnt booting then)
[22:42] <t3chguy> could be
[22:42] <t3chguy> if you have it off a PC
[22:42] <t3chguy> some PCs only give 50mA
[22:43] <Eromenos_> does anyone know if its normal for the green LED to be full on without an SD card plugged in?
[22:43] <t3chguy> which pi
[22:43] <Eromenos_> pi2 b
[22:43] <t3chguy> hmm no idea
[22:43] <Eromenos_> xD thx anyway
[22:43] <t3chguy> my pi zero did that when I put NOOBS on the SD Card
[22:43] <t3chguy> well it was preloaded on the SD
[22:43] <t3chguy> and its not compatible
[22:44] <Eromenos_> im trying to figure out if my pi is broke or if something is wrong with the sd card/os
[22:45] <Eromenos_> i might of missed it but it doesnt seem like there is much trouble shooting suppot for a new pi, considering there are so many factors for why one might not be working (for a new user)
[22:45] <Eromenos_> is it inadequate power or a DOA board or the sd card being incompatible or the SD card being broke or if the OS isnt flashed properly etc
[22:46] <Eromenos_> i cant work it out, why mine isn't booting
[22:46] <Eromenos_> theres also the hdmi incompatibility thing
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[22:49] <t3chguy> whats the red light state Eromenos_ ?
[22:49] <Eromenos_> full on
[22:50] <t3chguy> then its most likely not a power issue
[22:50] <t3chguy> so thats one ruled off
[22:50] <Eromenos_> with the card in or even out, powered on: red & green LED full on
[22:50] <Eromenos_> ok that helps :) thx
[22:51] <Eromenos_> is there a handy way to tell if the board is actually dead?
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[22:51] <t3chguy> Use a known-good SD Card...?
[22:51] * Eromenos_ shrugs
[22:51] <Eromenos_> that might be my last resort
[22:51] <t3chguy> if its the same with or without SD then its most likely bad SD content
[22:51] <Lyka> hi
[22:51] <Eromenos_> t3chguy does the video output anything without the SD card in?
[22:51] <Eromenos_> hi Lyka
[22:51] <t3chguy> no
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[22:52] <Eromenos_> ok that also helps
[22:52] <ShorTie> don't know if you can do a good flash with a smart phone, got a pc ??
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[22:52] <Eromenos_> i dont have a sd reader ShorTie, just a smart phone
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[22:53] <Lyka> must be the flexfb driver
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[22:53] <Eromenos_> Lyka i am taking a wild shot at a guess: perhaps lower the resolution of image being displayed?
[22:53] <Eromenos_> would take less bandwidth to the screen
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[22:54] <TrekBike> Aren't there multiple ways of connecting LCDs, the DSI port, or on the pin block where the GPI pins are or HDMI or USB?
[22:55] <Lyka> gpio port
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[22:55] <TrekBike> I haven't done anything with LCDs yet. Just used my monitors.
[22:55] <Lyka> it's a 320x480 lvd
[22:56] <Tenkawa> Anyone running a 4.3 kernel on a pi2 by chance currently?
[22:56] <Lyka> *lcd
[22:56] <Tenkawa> if so hows it running for you?
[22:57] <Lyka> the delay is in the input of new characters
[22:57] <Eromenos_> i dont know what the bandwidth capabilities of the GPIO pins are Lyka but perhaps finding that out, and then working out how much data per frame you are sending to the LCD would give you a clue
[22:57] <Lyka> so that you can visibly see the screen change
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[22:58] <Eromenos_> anywho i have to dash out. Thanks for the chat and the suggestions everyone x
[22:58] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: I believe I am
[22:58] <t3chguy> it runs well
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[22:58] <Lyka> i don't see how slowing down would speed it up
[22:59] <Idkidks> Hey guys, could I get some help with the command line? I want to re-size my new ubuntu mate partition, and there's one part I don't know how to do in the instructions.
[22:59] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: good.. figured it did just thought I'd ask.. getting the src now
[22:59] <Idkidks> https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/
[22:59] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: i run 4.3 on all my boxes except it and my ci20
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[23:00] <Idkidks> It tells me to do this: Delete the second partition (d, 2), then re-create it using the defaults (n, p, 2, enter, enter), then write and exit (w). Reboot the system, then:
[23:00] <Eromenos_> Idkidks you can use parted for such a task
[23:00] <Lyka> it's a not officially supported model for the notro driver
[23:00] <Eromenos_> although i think you would have to operate on the SD card from another operating system
[23:00] <Idkidks> PaxSouth1999
[23:00] <Idkidks> Whoops
[23:00] <Idkidks> hunter2, let me go reset all my passwords
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[23:01] <t3chguy> Eromenos_: you don't have to
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[23:01] <t3chguy> I've done it before on Ubuntu Mate on RPi2B
[23:01] <Lyka> that is your password?
[23:01] <Lyka> mine is swordfish
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[23:02] <Lyka> (marx brothers reference)
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[23:03] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: compile time heehee'
[23:04] <fragmint> oh sweet, I forgot aptitude has minesweeper built into it
[23:04] <Tenkawa> haahaa nice
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[23:06] <Lyka> spybert: are you named after a dilbert character?
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[23:07] <spybert> Lyka: Not an official Dilbert character :-)
[23:07] <ozzzy> howdy spybert
[23:07] <spybert> but I figured there should be a spybert to go along with the others
[23:07] <spybert> hi ozzzy
[23:08] <Lyka> i spy or spy vs spy?
[23:08] <Lyka> never mind
[23:09] * Lyka hasn't thought of spy vs spy since she was little
[23:11] <ttys0> I think Mad still does Spy vs Spy.
[23:11] <Idkidks> Wow so that was fun.
[23:12] <Idkidks> Yeah does anyone have experience with re-sizing the file system for ubuntu mate?
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