#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-01-10

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[0:00] <swift110> hey guys
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[0:06] <Chillum> hey
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[0:29] <merrick`> I feel like i just learned way more than i need to so i can blink LED lights.
[0:29] <merrick`> not that learning is bad.
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[0:39] <Berg> hi i learn it 10.38am
[0:39] <Berg> hello world
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[0:46] <merrick`> I scooped up issue #40 of MagPi today out of sheer dumb luck :D
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[0:47] <merrick`> got my pi 2 yesterday, passed a barnes and noble thought screw it i'll check it out. They had one copy sitting there, snagged it. Now I have a pi zero too muahah
[0:48] <ugrp> nice! the bn near me was out of em
[0:49] <ugrp> anybody know why html 5 audio would play fine when called from the desktop but when called from mobile it does not load and creates an IO error 32/broken pipe?
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[0:53] <merrick`> ugrp, only html 5 audio? other types work fine?
[0:54] <ugrp> haven't tried anything other than an html5 audio src
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[0:56] <merrick`> try piping some junk straight to the audio from the command line see if that works? (i'm n00bin it up, feel free to ignore suggestions, they may not be helpful)
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[0:59] <swift110> really merrick`
[0:59] <merrick`> what?
[1:01] <swift110> you got a pi zero
[1:01] <swift110> thats cool
[1:01] <merrick`> oh yeah :)
[1:01] <swift110> I am at a b&n now and I am about to ask if they have the mag pi magazine
[1:02] <merrick`> it was in the technology section at the one i went to, by the magazines.
[1:02] <swift110> there not on display but they may have something in storage
[1:02] <merrick`> (duh)
[1:02] <gzuh> what kind of adaptors do you need to use the zero? i wonder what the real cost of them are
[1:02] <merrick`> ah good call
[1:02] <merrick`> looks like 2 mini usb (one for power) , one mini hdmi, and one mini sd card slot
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[1:03] <pyroxide> micro* sd
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[1:04] <merrick`> pyroxide, thanks
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[1:05] <pyroxide> also a micro usb hub is a good thing to have
[1:05] <swift110> hmm
[1:05] <swift110> just checked they dont have any here
[1:05] <pyroxide> where is here?
[1:05] <swift110> barnes and noble book store
[1:05] <pyroxide> HAHAHHA
[1:05] <ugrp> this is almost my exact issue except instead of video it's audio - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34493005/flask-framework-not-support-html5-video-label-on-safari-and-ios-devices
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[1:06] <swift110> are there that many people buying that magazine?
[1:06] <merrick`> swift110, I think so, the pi zeros are selling out fast as hell when they become available online
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[1:07] <merrick`> swift110, what irc client are you using on your cellphone?
[1:07] <pyroxide> i bought one of these for my tablet: http://r.ebay.com/xAeMIb
[1:08] <pyroxide> the extra power isn't necessary, though
[1:08] <pyroxide> ...at least it shouldn't be.
[1:09] <swift110> i see
[1:09] <swift110> yaaic merrick`
[1:09] <swift110> I am not using my cellphone for irc right now though'
[1:09] <swift110> I am on my laptop
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[1:09] <swift110> i also use andchat
[1:09] <pyroxide> i used and chat on my tablet once...just broke down and installed mIRC
[1:10] <pyroxide> because windows master race
[1:10] <pyroxide> ah no one fell for that bait
[1:11] <merrick`> hey, even the pi can run that win10 noise now
[1:11] <swift110> i see
[1:11] <swift110> lol
[1:11] <swift110> why would you run win10 on a pi though
[1:11] <pyroxide> man windows 10 iot core which is not windwos at all
[1:11] <merrick`> same reason half the projects on the pi exist...because you can.
[1:12] <pyroxide> i'd be happier with windows 95 on a pi
[1:12] <gzuh> ^^^
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[1:12] <gzuh> i wonder if they'd ever release source for 3.1 or something
[1:13] <pyroxide> damn small linux on a pi zero needs to be a thing
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[1:16] <merrick`> I'm surprised DSL isnt a thing already
[1:16] <pyroxide> or puppy linux
[1:16] <merrick`> (for pi)
[1:17] <merrick`> raspian is taking up 3.5 gig already...granted that's with the gui and all the preloaded stuff
[1:17] <pyroxide> arch is really small...like 300 MB
[1:17] <pyroxide> void is smaller i think
[1:19] <pyroxide> void is weird, though
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[1:20] <ppq> with the net-installer you can install a minimal raspbian
[1:20] <merrick`> looks like void is around 350MB, DSL is around 50MB
[1:20] <ppq> and then cherry-pick the stuff you need
[1:21] <merrick`> that's probably the way to go if you're that concerned with space.
[1:21] <[Saint]> if you're not confident with a cli environment, or package management around a base system, stay away from it, though.
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[1:21] <[Saint]> raspbian-ua-netinst is broken in a non-obvious way out of the box.
[1:22] <merrick`> apt is pretty damn friendly IMO
[1:22] <[Saint]> and there's a fair bit of work involved to get sane package management running first.
[1:22] <[Saint]> and, it is, but...it's broken out of the box.
[1:22] <[Saint]> so, be aware of this.
[1:22] <[Saint]> preinst/postint services will not run without first fixing up apt.
[1:23] <merrick`> out of curiousity i googled gentoo raspberry pi...why would anyone do that to themselves.
[1:23] <ppq> that is a good question
[1:23] <[Saint]> if you could just do an 'apt-get update; apt-get updrade' right out of the box with raspbian-ua-netinst without breaking the entire world, I wouldn;t say anything.
[1:23] <[Saint]> but, you can't, and it will.
[1:23] <[Saint]> so be advised.
[1:24] <merrick`> that sounds like something that should be addressed [Saint] :\
[1:24] <ppq> [Saint], is this a recent issue? when i used it (more than one year ago, though) everything worked smoothly
[1:25] <merrick`> not that i'm volunteering. or could fix it if i tried.
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[1:47] <DrunkenDwarf> hi all. whats the best way to play hd video on the Pi? Im writing a Java interface currently and I know omxplayer is used a lot but im having trouble controlling it through an api. the best I can get is start/stop functionality with a FIFO, but no more control than that
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[1:55] <Chillum> omxplayer is about the only think that can as far as I know
[1:55] <Chillum> oh wait
[1:55] <Chillum> I did hear that someone got vlc working with the GPU
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[1:58] <DrunkenDwarf> Chillum, im reading now about VLC with hardware acceleration. apparently you still need to overclock the pi, and im writing this interface for the zero so i doubt itll handle it
[1:58] <Chillum> I ehar the zero is already at the fastest speed
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[1:59] <Chillum> I know that kodi/openelec can control omxplayer with fine control
[1:59] <Chillum> you just have to figure out the api
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[2:02] <DrunkenDwarf> aye. ive no idea how they do it. from what i read they have no real intention of releasing an api
[2:02] <DrunkenDwarf> cause of course its part of the kodi project itself, so they dont really need one
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[2:03] <pyroxide> no idea what to do with my pi2
[2:04] <DrunkenDwarf> send it to me, i need another :)
[2:04] <pyroxide> maybe a web serbur or a mail serbur?
[2:05] <pyroxide> eh...static ip costs extra from my isp, though
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[2:05] <DrunkenDwarf> ive got an old panasonic toughbook, the bulletproof metal ones. gonna turn that into a pi laptop wih the next one
[2:05] <pyroxide> at least i think it costs more
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[2:06] <DrunkenDwarf> most isp's chrge for static ips, if they even provide it
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[2:08] <pyroxide> ugh it's included with business services
[2:09] <pyroxide> i already have a couple of domain names
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[2:10] <pyroxide> 65$/mo
[2:11] <pyroxide> good lord cox is a rip
[2:13] <pyroxide> i'd be better off buying a vps
[2:13] <merrick`> just set up a ddns address?
[2:13] <frigginglorious> pyroxide: if you are into python, you can check out a project I've been working on.
[2:13] <pyroxide> oh yeah python is my thing
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[2:13] <pyroxide> oh lawd why didn't i think of dyndns?
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[2:14] <frigginglorious> https://github.com/whackashoe/mediaserver
[2:15] <frigginglorious> we really just started on it last weekend, but it will be a cool packaged OS for broadcasting a little wireless network that is a glorified local fileserver
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[2:20] <pyroxide> @frigginglorious: derp python 3 installed
[2:21] <pyroxide> have to change my PATH
[2:21] <frigginglorious> oh yea, we are believers in python 2.7 :P
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[2:24] <methuzla> frigginglorious so kind of like piratebox?
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[2:25] <frigginglorious> methuzla: I havent heard of that, but I'm ok with it being compared to something called piratebox, yeah :P
[2:26] <methuzla> https://piratebox.cc/
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[2:27] <frigginglorious> methuzla: yeah, that's about the gist of it :P
[2:29] <frigginglorious> we are going to empahsize the use for small business or organizations
[2:29] <pyroxide> ok so what is it doing?
[2:29] <pyroxide> oh ok
[2:29] <frigginglorious> yeah... i need to do more doc i spose. did you get it running on 0.0.0.0:80?
[2:30] <frigginglorious> http://0.0.0.0:8080
[2:30] <pyroxide> yeah i directed my browser to http://192.168.0.8:8080/
[2:30] <pyroxide> which is my pi's ip
[2:30] <pyroxide> where do i put files?
[2:31] <frigginglorious> media!
[2:31] <methuzla> "media"
[2:31] <frigginglorious> http://192.168.0.8:8080/admin ... isnt done yet
[2:31] <frigginglorious> but allows you to get the basic settings modified
[2:32] <frigginglorious> its all DB-less in a config file, which might get tricky or change in the future
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[2:53] <pyroxide> frigginglorious: is this a streaming server?
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[2:54] <frigginglorious> pyroxide: we talked about going that direction, but no
[2:54] <frigginglorious> you can probably tell its pretty damn basic right now :P
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[2:56] <pyroxide> i tried changing media to /mnt and no files show up
[2:57] <pyroxide> is it not recursive?
[2:58] <frigginglorious> pyroxide: i didnt implement it directly
[2:58] <frigginglorious> lemme look
[2:59] <frigginglorious> params['page_specific']['files'] = json.dumps({
[2:59] <frigginglorious> 'media': path_to_dict(os.getcwd() + config.get('directories', 'media'))
[2:59] <pyroxide> yeah looking at that right now
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[3:10] <pyroxide> frigginglorious: http://pastebin.com/0zmg4chN is my most recent python mini-project
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[3:11] <pyroxide> and i'm crap with linux. i can't figure out how to make it run in background on boot
[3:11] <pyroxide> before login
[3:12] <pyroxide> arch doesn't have init.d or whatever
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[3:18] <Dumle29> Hey there
[3:19] <Dumle29> I'm trying to get this running: http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv6/raspberry-pi
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[3:19] <pyroxide> i'
[3:19] <pyroxide> m usign arch linux arm for pi2
[3:19] <Dumle29> I've formatted the SD card with SD formatter on my windows PC, done a full overwrite
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[3:19] <Dumle29> then opened it in my debian VM, with the SD card passed to debian
[3:19] <Dumle29> the followed the installation instructions
[3:20] <Dumle29> used fdisk to partition it mkfs to setup the file systems, etc etc
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[3:20] <Dumle29> no dice
[3:20] <pyroxide> you can use gparted
[3:20] <Dumle29> my rpi (it's an rpi B 1)
[3:20] <Dumle29> It's partitioned fine
[3:20] <Dumle29> I plop the sd card in the pi, apply power, and nothing
[3:20] <pyroxide> gparted automatically sets up the filesystem too
[3:21] <Dumle29> the power light comes on, but the act led just doesn't do anything
[3:21] <Dumle29> pyroxide: It's fine. I like fdisk
[3:21] <pyroxide> did you cp /root/boot/* /boot ?
[3:21] <Dumle29> yea
[3:21] <Dumle29> well, mv
[3:21] <Dumle29> but yeah
[3:21] <pyroxide> that works, too
[3:21] <Dumle29> as root. I home that doesn't matter
[3:21] <pyroxide> mv preferred.
[3:21] <Dumle29> hope
[3:22] <pyroxide> you should do all of it as root
[3:22] <Dumle29> yeah, right?
[3:22] <pyroxide> ok does your boot partition look all right?
[3:22] <Dumle29> yea, I mean, all the files are there
[3:23] <Dumle29> http://i.imgur.com/mnDCNa1.png
[3:23] <Dumle29> that's boot
[3:23] <Dumle29> opened in windows, but eh
[3:23] <pyroxide> doesn't matter
[3:23] <Dumle29> yea
[3:24] <Dumle29> it shouldn't matter yea
[3:24] <pyroxide> did you label the partitions?
[3:24] <Dumle29> it's an 8GB sd card
[3:24] <Dumle29> no. don't think so
[3:24] <Dumle29> nope
[3:24] <pyroxide> label the boot and root
[3:24] <pyroxide> see if that works
[3:25] <Dumle29> easy way to do that?
[3:25] <Dumle29> debian doesn't want to
[3:25] <Dumle29> well, the debian file manager doesn't
[3:25] <pyroxide> gparted will do it
[3:25] <pyroxide> other than that fdisk can do it but idk the options off hand
[3:25] <Dumle29> eh. Installing gparted then
[3:26] <pyroxide> i like gparted because it will perform the operations after you tell it everything you want it to do.
[3:26] <pyroxide> then you can urinate or grab something to drink
[3:27] <Dumle29> well. That's what fdisk does as well :P
[3:27] <Dumle29> you just tell it in a different manner
[3:27] <pyroxide> true, but it doesn't make the filesystems.
[3:27] <pyroxide> which takes like 30-60 seconds on a 64gb sd card
[3:28] <Dumle29> o n enter enter enter +100M t c n enter enter enter enter w
[3:28] <Dumle29> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdd1 && mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdd2
[3:28] <Dumle29> done
[3:28] <Dumle29> :)
[3:28] <pyroxide> ok you're more familiar with linux than i am
[3:29] <Dumle29> nah, I've just formatted these cards waaay to many times xD
[3:29] <Dumle29> too
[3:29] <Dumle29> ahh
[3:29] <Dumle29> /boot didn't have the boot flag
[3:30] <pyroxide> i don't have to do that in gparted...maybe it does it automatically?
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[3:31] <Dumle29> it shouldn't
[3:31] <Dumle29> what are you formatting /boot to?
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[3:31] <pyroxide> fat32
[3:31] <Dumle29> might be the problem then
[3:31] <Dumle29> I've got it in fat16
[3:31] <pyroxide> docs say fat16 or fat32 for boot partition
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[3:33] <Dumle29> odd
[3:33] <pyroxide> no dice?
[3:34] <Dumle29> nope
[3:34] <Dumle29> I'll try fat 32
[3:34] <Dumle29> just for kicks
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[3:35] <Dumle29> pyroxide: what flags do you see on your boot partition?
[3:35] <Dumle29> boot and lba?
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[3:38] <pyroxide> just lba
[3:38] <Dumle29> no boot flag? odd
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[3:39] <pyroxide> nope.. have you had success with other os on that sd card?
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[3:39] <Dumle29> hmm
[3:39] <Dumle29> good question. I have tried taking some of my working sdcards, but I haven't actually tried other oses on this card
[3:40] <pyroxide> check your model number against http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards
[3:40] <Dumle29> I'll give noobs a try
[3:40] <pyroxide> noobs is bad
[3:40] <Dumle29> why?
[3:40] <pyroxide> only heard bad things about it
[3:40] <Dumle29> eh. It works
[3:40] <Dumle29> so it's a quick test
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[3:41] <Dumle29> I also couldn't set the lable to boot
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[3:41] <Dumle29> as in, the lable of the fat32 partition
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[4:26] <pyroxide> grrr
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[4:38] <frigginglorious> pyroxide: I was just looking at your script. I havent even gotten my pi zero to properly connect to the network yet, but it looks cool. So it modifies the LED to fade based on processes?
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[4:40] <Chillum> you can do pwm to the activity led?
[4:41] <merrick`> pyroxide, re: getting things to run in the background... you tried puttin a & at the end of it?
[4:42] <merrick`> (you said you're not familiar with linux much, pretty sure that's how you does dat.) again, i'm noobish so i could just be full of shit.
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[4:55] <pyroxide> well
[4:55] <pyroxide> idk
[4:58] <pyroxide> so the & worked, but no clue how to execute on boot before logging in on archlinux-arm
[5:00] <gzuh> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Herodotus/Rc-Local-Systemd
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[5:03] <pyroxide> i still don't understand.
[5:04] <gzuh> do that and put commands you want to run in /etc/rc.local
[5:04] <pyroxide> ah ok
[5:05] <gzuh> hell check if you have rc.local already, may be already functional
[5:05] <gzuh> my rasbian seems to have it
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[5:09] <pyroxide> arch is a bit different
[5:09] <gzuh> i'm sure it is
[5:10] <pyroxide> updates every day or so
[5:10] <gzuh> i almost did arch on my pi, but decided i didn't want to do all the setup bits
[5:10] <pyroxide> only setup you need to do after setting up the sd card is timezone, really
[5:11] <gzuh> oh i thought you had to do a bunch of stuff with chroots
[5:11] <pyroxide> nope
[5:11] <gzuh> shit maybe i'll switch to arch maybe then
[5:11] <pyroxide> oh wifi also if you use that
[5:11] <gzuh> is there a nice tool for wifi? i've always had trouble with wifi on cli
[5:11] <pyroxide> static ip if necessary
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[5:12] <pyroxide> wifi-menu that comes with wpa_supplicant
[5:12] <giddles> hey ho
[5:12] <giddles> a samsung Class 10/UHS-1 card is rpi ready?
[5:13] <giddles> its a SAMSUNG MB-MC32DA, 32GB
[5:13] <pyroxide> giddles mine are
[5:13] <pyroxide> uhhh my model is different though
[5:13] <pyroxide> mine is an EVO 32GB
[5:14] <pyroxide> micro
[5:14] <Kitt3n> giddles, should work just fine? o_O
[5:14] <giddles> i ordered
[5:14] <giddles> :)
[5:14] <giddles> i thought this were the evo
[5:15] <pyroxide> i'm using this: http://www.walmart.com/ip/37455695
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[5:15] <pyroxide> i have a 64GB of same type also works fine
[5:15] <giddles> same price as mine
[5:17] <pyroxide> yeah i ordered it Pick-up-today on walmart.com, was ready to pickup in minutes
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[5:17] <pyroxide> of course i work at that store and i processed the order
[5:17] <pyroxide> so...lol
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[5:28] <Tenkawa> greetings all
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[5:39] <stickperson> not really a pi question, but hoping someone can help me with my deluge setup. here’s the line from my startup file that runs deluged: http://dpaste.com/3ZRQTAQ
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[5:40] <stickperson> right now output is being redirected to /dev/null. deluged has an argument to log to a file. if i provide that argument do i still need > /dev/null or can i get rid of it?
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[5:48] <stickperson> nevermind. that should work.
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[6:20] <merrick`> damn 13 bucks for a 32 gig micro sd...sold out now of course.
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[6:21] <pyroxide> they're cheaper online than in-store
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[6:34] <ugrp> having an issue, appreciate all help :) - https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=132041
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[6:58] <merrick`> ugrp, just an idea, but is there a way you can change your user agent in either of those browsers?
[6:58] <merrick`> or, the opposite, change the user agent on the desktop where it works, and see if switching it to mobile chrome or mobile safari breaks it.
[6:59] <merrick`> at least then we can figure out if it's a problem with the mobile itself or if the server is trying to do funky stuff based on user agent.
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[7:02] <merrick`> also could just be because the connection (especially on mobile) is taking too long to send/recieve things
[7:02] <merrick`> all of these are guesses btw, but eliminating possiblities always helps :)
[7:05] <ugrp> merrick`, appreciate the ideas. will look into them here in a bit. thanks :)
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[7:24] <pyroxide> going from MySQL to SQLite isn't as bad as i thought it would be
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[7:26] <Chillum> sqlite is well written
[7:26] <pyroxide> the php methods are all different, though
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[7:26] <pyroxide> also sqlite doesn't have unsigned and auto_increment, that i noticed.
[7:27] <Chillum> I use uuids
[7:28] <pyroxide> well i'm just converting a URL shortener that i made in MySQL php to SQLite php
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[8:13] <swift110-phone> Hey
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[8:20] <Chillum> hey
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[8:33] <brianx> yo o/
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[10:26] <gordonDrogon> morning ...
[10:28] <Berg> hello to the end of another day
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[11:15] <CyberaX> bonjour :)
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[11:29] <AiGreek> pour ce qu'il a de bon, ce jour ...
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[13:12] <computix> Hi
[13:14] <computix> Yesterday I switched off my raspberry and within a second switched it on again. Now my HDMI seems not to work any longer. Do you think that it's possible that I've blown up my HDMI plug?
[13:15] <computix> The raspi ist still working though.
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[13:16] <shiftplusone> Seems unlikely. Did you try using tvservice to see if it detects the display?
[13:16] <pyroxide> probably just a corruption to your card
[13:16] <shiftplusone> or using a different display, or something along those lines..... what troubleshooting have you done?
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[13:17] <computix> shiftplusone: Just plugged in another LCD.
[13:17] <shiftplusone> and nothing? Does the rainbow pattern come up at least?
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[13:18] <computix> pyroxide: Maybe. If I use kore on my mobile, I get information from the raspi and can play music and so on.
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[13:19] <computix> shiftplusone: Nothing. The connection to my LCD is lost, like in "no signal".
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[13:19] <shiftplusone> can you ssh in?
[13:19] <computix> shiftplusone: I'll check that right in a minute.
[13:20] <shiftplusone> What distro is it?
[13:20] <computix> shiftplusone: OSMC
[13:20] <Keanu73> Hmph.. what on earth can I do with my Pi? I've somewhat abandoned it for 2 years
[13:20] <Keanu73> or 1
[13:20] <shiftplusone> ah, don't know anything about osmc
[13:21] <shiftplusone> but if you can ssh in and fiddle around with tvservice, that might be helpful.
[13:21] <pyroxide> computix: so sd card corruption is unlikely if it actually boots and you can access it. perhaps bad hdmi cord?
[13:22] <computix> shiftplusone: Thx, I'll try that.
[13:23] <computix> pyroxide: That's what I hope for. But didn't mess around with the cord, so I guess it's not very likely. Will check with a cord of a friend though.
[13:23] <pyroxide> Keanu73: mail server or web server
[13:23] <Keanu73> I already got a website..
[13:23] <Keanu73> :|
[13:24] <pyroxide> computix: my cord was bad and i thought it was my pi. turns out it was my cord because it would work for a bit then automatically shut off, even if i replugged the cord in
[13:24] <computix> pyroxide: I see.
[13:24] <shiftplusone> pyroxide, for everyday use, I have a samba share on mine, torrent client, owncloud and so on. Serves as a handy little NAS and also good since I can play movies from it from anywwhere in the house sort of thing. It's also an access point.
[13:25] <shiftplusone> That sort of setup would struggle on a pi 1 or if you have multiple users at a time
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[13:30] <[Saint]> Holy...
[13:31] <[Saint]> A spooky ghost!
[13:31] <[Saint]> Thought you were dead shiftplusone.
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[13:32] <shiftplusone> Nuh, just napping.
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[13:37] <fluffet> Keanu73: torrent seedbox (for sites like torrentleech), pi-hole (adblocker/dns server/cache)
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[13:46] <fluffet> anyone got any ideas as to how i can access my samba share with \\SERVERNAME\ in windows but it doesn't get discovered in the list on networks?
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[13:46] <fluffet> so basically, i get file access, but it's not there for easy access, kinda
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[14:02] <pyroxide> i done effed up my root password
[14:04] <pyroxide> using sudo passwd doesn't let me log into it...unless i can't log in as root via ssh
[14:04] <pyroxide> sudo passwd root
[14:07] <pyroxide> i guess i need to reinstall
[14:07] <pyroxide> even removing the password doesn't work
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[14:15] <Helldesk> https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/407rsp/skrolli_is_a_finnish_indie_computer_magazine_that/
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[14:18] <Helldesk> https://skrolli.fi/list-of-articles-in-english/ the people writing that magazine want to try publishing an English language version as well; quite many of these would be worth it
[14:20] <Helldesk> coding, hardware hacking, cool computer history, and culture... and so on
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[14:43] <kype> Do the original RPI NOIR cameras have power supplied to its corner screw holes?
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[14:46] <H__> euh, cannot check atm, my camera is up on the roof. LOL
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[14:53] <kype> are u using a NOIR? do you have an IR illuminator?
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[15:00] <[Saint]> kype: No.
[15:02] <kype> @[Saint] is there any other way i can power my IR LEDs then from the RPI?
[15:02] <[Saint]> power rails are accessible via GPIO.
[15:02] <[Saint]> 5V and 3.3V
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[15:03] <kype> Would that be enough power for a IR LED that is "1W high-power 850 infrared LED"
[15:05] <[Saint]> depends vastly on the supply and other peripherals.
[15:05] <[Saint]> but even if it could power it at full draw it would likely cause a brownout when it fired initially.
[15:06] <[Saint]> so - it's much safer to go with "no".
[15:06] <kype> but its supposed to be connected to an RPI, its a IR LED specifically for the RPI
[15:07] <[Saint]> I can connect any USB HDD to the Rpi as well.
[15:07] <[Saint]> Doesn;t mean it won't brownout when it spins up though.
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[15:10] <[Saint]> if you want to guarantee this functions as expected, I'd be giving it its own power supply.
[15:10] <kype> Is there any way i could calculate the voltage / current this IR led needs?
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[15:23] <merrick`> kype, usually people are worried about putting enough resistance in to not burn out their LEDs...even if you under power them they will still put out signal.
[15:24] <merrick`> 1W seems crazy high
[15:24] <kype> Yeah turns out its not 1W, its actually 3W
[15:24] <kype> even crazier
[15:24] <merrick`> yeah that's nuts. were they expensive?
[15:25] <kype> nope it was 8+ USD
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[15:25] <computix> shiftplusone: Now I could ssh in and play around with tvservice -s. The output is state 0x120006 [DVI DMT (47) RGB full 16:10], 1440x900 @ 60.00Hz, progressive
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[15:26] <computix> shiftplusone: Everything seems to be ok.
[15:26] <merrick`> well there's calculators out there that'll use ohms law and junk to figure out what resistance/voltage etc you need, but you might need more info than you have to get your answer.
[15:26] <computix> shiftplusone: Do you think it's possilbe that the raspi says that even though the connector itself is broken?
[15:27] <kype> Okay so i i just take the 3.3v +/- from my RPI and connect them to my IR LED +/-, do i risk damaging the RPI or my LEDs?
[15:27] <computix> s/possilbe/possible
[15:27] <merrick`> kype, yeah, pretty sure you do.
[15:27] <kype> which? both?
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[15:28] <computix> shiftplusone: I think I have to get a cable and a friend's pi. I'll report back if you're interested.
[15:29] <merrick`> I'm pretty new at this, so I'm not sure. But at the very least you'd be risking popping your LEDs.
[15:29] <shiftplusone> computix, I don't know. What does your config.txt look like? Unless otherwise specified it should've defaulted to composite output, so it seems like it's at least communicating with the TV. I don't know if that means anything though. HDMI data communication is done over I2C, isn't it? If so, it doesn't say much.
[15:29] <merrick`> just youtube LED raspberry pi beginner things or something, they'll explain about resistors and shit and why it's important to put in front of your LEDs and stuff
[15:31] <merrick`> and if you're involving any GPIO ports on your PI, then I'm pretty sure you're risking frying your PI as well. I think if I understand correctly those pins are directly connected to the cpu(?? not sure, onlyl had this things 2 days)
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[15:35] <computix> shiftplusone: Thank you. I think I'll take the guesswork out of it and try to get my hands on a cable and a pi. I guess that's more time efficient at that point. Already had to dd a new image onto the card because I couldn't ssh in :/
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[15:36] <mgottschlag> kype: also, if that's a 3W-LED, then you don't want to just add a resistor to limit the current
[15:36] <shiftplusone> computix, if you ask me during work hours, I might be more helpful since then I can ask people that would know more.
[15:36] <mgottschlag> the power loss would be too high, and you'd need a huge resistor (huge as in physically huge because it needs to dissipage that much power, probably with a heatsink)
[15:37] <mgottschlag> you'd better go with a LED power supply (constant current supply)
[15:38] <merrick`> mgottschlag, just for my own education, if he just hooked that LED up (even with a "normal" resistor) it'd suck so much power it'd brown out/black out the pi?
[15:38] <mgottschlag> certainly
[15:38] <mgottschlag> at least with 3.3V
[15:38] <kype> but its meant to operate on 3.3v off the RPI
[15:38] <kype> This is how it looks like http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61j9r1DTkIL._SL1001_.jpg
[15:39] <mgottschlag> ah, okay, so that actually has a current regulator built in
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[15:39] <mgottschlag> anyways, 3W sounds far too much for the pi's 3.3V output
[15:39] <mgottschlag> that's 1A, at least the old pi's weren't designed for so much current
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[15:40] <mgottschlag> the old pi couldn't provide more than 150mA on 3.3V
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[15:41] <computix> shiftplusone: Thank you. I guess I'll try the other hardware and if the new raspi's HDMI works I'll use the current one for other purposes.
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[15:45] <mgottschlag> kype: also, that PCB does not look as if it contained any proper constant current power supply, which makes 3W even more unlikely
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[15:45] <mgottschlag> (unless the current regulator is hidden below the lens)
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[15:46] <kype> even if its 1W, im screwed. cuz i just read the GPIO doesnt give out 1W
[15:46] <mgottschlag> the specs say 50mA
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[15:53] <[Saint]> Holy crap?
[15:53] <[Saint]> It's _3W_?
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[15:57] <Yappy> hi all, was hoping someone could help me out with CUE sheets for retropie. trying to keep the cue file in the psx roms folder, but have it pointing to the bin files in a different folder
[15:57] <Yappy> i dont think i am writing the path properly.
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[15:58] <Yappy> http://pastebin.com/tBpyrGh5 works if i have the bin and cue files in the same directory/folder
[15:59] <Yappy> but i want the cue file to be in /roms and the bin files to be in /roms/BLABLA
[16:00] <[Saint]> IIUC cuesheets can do relative paths but that can't go above the current working directory.
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[16:00] <[Saint]> *but they
[16:00] <Yappy> is this how i should write the path out? http://pastebin.com/LpaZ2Tzz
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[16:01] <Yappy> /BLABLA isnt above /roms, since it's inside it
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[16:03] <Yappy> its for retropie if that helps. do they have an irc channel anyone know? cant seem to find it
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[16:05] <[Saint]> oh, hum, for some reason I thought cue paths were always relative, but it can be absolute as well.
[16:05] <[Saint]> well, TIL.
[16:05] <Yappy> i will try an absolute path :)
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[16:07] <kype> I think its more 1W
[16:07] <kype> as seen on the amazon page
[16:08] <Yappy> ahh, i think retropie just doesnt support cue and bin files being in different directories
[16:08] <Yappy> "unsupported file" it reckons, but as soon as i move the bin files in the same folder as the cue cheet, it works fine
[16:09] <[Saint]> I assume you're here because retropie is still dropping the ball absolutely on documentation?
[16:09] <[Saint]> When they first started out, it was _awful_. No idea about now, if it's gotten any better.
[16:09] <Yappy> so far the wiki has been pretty easy to follow and detailed enough
[16:09] <[Saint]> Oh. Wow...there's a wiki now.
[16:09] <[Saint]> That answers that question.
[16:09] <Yappy> PS3 bluetooth pairing is much easier now, still a TAD fiddly but thats just the setting up
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[16:10] <Yappy> but i think they're the best one for getting psx games working on the pi
[16:11] <Yappy> anyway i thought maybe i could be smart and make the bin files hidden instead, in the same folder as the cue
[16:11] <Yappy> but the emulator shows the files lol. i did the period in front of file name
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[16:12] <Yappy> next thing i might try is create a hidden shortcut to the bin files in the BLABLA folder, see if that works.
[16:13] <Yappy> symlink i think its called
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[16:18] <[Saint]> that'll still look the same as it is now to the application.
[16:18] <Yappy> oh fuck lmao i think it worked
[16:18] <Yappy> gonna reboot and see if it lists the symlinks, if not i'll just hide em
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[16:19] <Yappy> http://pastebin.com/QjHtt09Y
[16:19] <Yappy> track1 symlinks to a/track1.bin
[16:19] <Yappy> and track2 is a/track2.bin
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[16:29] <Yappy> yup thats done it! WOO :D
[16:29] <pyroxide> why does everything have to be such a pain to set up?
[16:29] <Yappy> see y'all
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[16:35] <kype> what are the RPI power rails? Are they a specific GPIO pin?
[16:35] <Chillum> input or output?
[16:35] <pyroxide> http://pinout.xyz/
[16:35] <Chillum> http://www.element14.com/community/servlet/JiveServlet/previewBody/73950-102-4-309126/GPIO_Pi2.png <--
[16:35] <Chillum> the 5v, 3.3v and gnd are on the top of the gpios
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[16:36] <Chillum> however there can be issues with powering it from these pins, I don't remember the details. Something about bypassing protection and possibly backfeeding the converter
[16:36] <Chillum> drawing power is fine as long as you don't pull to many amps
[16:37] <kype> So that 3.3v/5v doesnt come from the processor right?
[16:37] <kype> As in its not limited to 50ma
[16:38] <pyroxide> i'm pretty sure that they do not and do not have that limitation
[16:38] <pyroxide> since i've heard of people using the GPIO to power a cooling fan
[16:39] <pyroxide> at least using the 5v rail
[16:39] <kype> so i can connect my negative terminal to any GND pin?
[16:39] <pyroxide> yeah, i'm using 4 different gnd pins
[16:39] <kype> gr8 thanks
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[16:40] <pyroxide> just double check your pins before you turn anything on
[16:40] <pksato> Is not recomended to draw more that 50mA from 3v3 and 100mA from 5V.
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[16:41] <gsora> is there any official data about new raspi zero shipments?
[16:41] <kype> but i have a 2A power supply. Even then its not recommended?
[16:42] <Chillum> if you need more power you can bypass the pi and connect directly to your supply
[16:42] <Chillum> but you can't put too much through the pcb of the pi
[16:42] <pyroxide> so what about the usb ports?
[16:42] <Chillum> usb still goes through the pcb
[16:42] <Chillum> it is about how many amps the traces can take
[16:42] <pksato> power input have overload protection (polyfuse) and traces are not designed to high current.
[16:43] <kype> im planning on 900ma LED on the 3.3v rail
[16:43] <Chillum> gsora: they seem as rare as a unicorn
[16:43] <Chillum> not going to happen
[16:43] <pyroxide> that's a big led
[16:43] <gsora> Chillum: I just checked adafruit... they have the starter pack in stock
[16:43] <gsora> and i just bought one off ebay, damn
[16:43] <Chillum> not unless you put your own power converter on the input power bypassing the pi
[16:44] <Chillum> gsora: I bought a starter pack, it was my only optin. I already had all those cords and adapters
[16:44] <Chillum> I would just love to buy 10 for $50
[16:44] <Chillum> it is important to always have 10 extra computers
[16:44] <gsora> I don't think adafruit ship to europe though
[16:44] <pksato> like on desktop computer, use a derivation from power supply to power high current devices.
[16:44] <pyroxide> man. no wonder the zero is out of stock. people like YOU (Chillum) buy 10 at a time!
[16:44] <gsora> Chillum: ayy lmao, 10 raspi zero cluster incoming
[16:45] <pyroxide> distasteful!
[16:46] <Chillum> I have exactly one
[16:46] <pyroxide> i'm only kidding.
[16:46] <Chillum> rest assured that by the time I will be allowed to buy 10, there will be plenty
[16:46] <Chillum> I know
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[16:46] <Chillum> I am thinking web-server throwies
[16:46] <Viper168> probably some jerk buying them all up from microcenter here is why I didn't get one
[16:46] <pyroxide> web crawling data miners
[16:46] <methuzla> i think the set up is roughly: micro-usb 5V -> fuse -> diode protection -> 5V rail -> converter -> 3.3V/1.8V rail
[16:46] <Viper168> were 4 left and they were gone in under an hour
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[16:47] <litb> hello all
[16:47] <Viper168> though I was able to order one online in a bundle
[16:47] <Viper168> still would have been nice to just go pick one up
[16:47] <Chillum> I am thinking go to politcal rally of person "X", then hide one with a battery with a wifi hotspot called "The truth about X!", then a captive portal to direct anyone who connects to the propaganda of your choice
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[16:47] <pyroxide> that's how the Wiis were even a year after they came out.
[16:47] <litb> i plan to get two raspberry pi 2. use one as a frontend with kodi, and one as a backend for DVB-C
[16:47] <litb> (tvheadend I think I will use)
[16:48] <litb> for what device will I need to get the codecs?
[16:48] <gsora> there's a local retailer selling zeros for ~9€ + shipping. i spent 35 w/shipping for mine :(
[16:48] <Chillum> I use openelec on the pi 2. It is kodi but with a bunch of mods to the OS
[16:48] <Chillum> works great out of the box
[16:49] <pyroxide> man that Pie Face game is like that atm. people buying them in walmarts and selling them for 80 bucks on ebay
[16:49] <Chillum> as for codecs, either the default player will support them through the GPU, or if not you will have trouble doing it
[16:49] <litb> Chillum: what do you mean by "default player"?
[16:49] <Chillum> it is _possible_ to play unsupported codecs through the CPU, but it has trouble keeping up
[16:49] <litb> I thought you need to buy decoder license
[16:50] <Chillum> litb: almost anything that plays video on a pi is using omxplayer, which uses the video acceleration on board
[16:50] <litb> to get encoding in hardware (for fullhd)
[16:50] <pyroxide> not unless you're polaying mpeg-2
[16:50] <pyroxide> or that other codec
[16:50] <pyroxide> VC-1?
[16:50] <Chillum> I forgot about those
[16:50] <Chillum> it has never came up
[16:50] <gsora> there's a way to run a serial connection over usb for the zero?
[16:51] <pyroxide> omxplayer plays mp4 videos pretty well on the pi2
[16:51] <Chillum> litb: most anything will play for free out of the box, expect for mpeg-2(which you can pay to license), and h265(not going to happen)
[16:51] <Chillum> the vast majority of files will just play
[16:51] <litb> Chillum: what about h264?
[16:51] <Chillum> no problem
[16:51] <Chillum> plays them great
[16:51] <litb> with hardware?
[16:51] <Chillum> yes
[16:51] <litb> or is your cpu at 100%
[16:51] <litb> ah i see
[16:51] <Chillum> the cpu barely moves
[16:52] <Chillum> sooo glad my new TV can run the kodi android version which can play h265
[16:52] <pyroxide> h265 never heard
[16:52] <pyroxide> new standard?
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[16:52] <litb> Chillum: do i need vc1 and mpeg-2 for fullhd dvb-c?
[16:53] <litb> pyroxide: i think that's for qhd
[16:53] <Chillum> pyroxide: it is very good compression, but pretty much requires hardware decoding
[16:53] <Chillum> litb: I don't know what dvb-c is
[16:53] <Chillum> try it, see if it works
[16:53] <litb> Chillum: it's a television broadcasting system in germany (europe?)
[16:53] <litb> dvb-c means digital video broadcasting with cable, iirc
[16:54] <Chillum> pyroxide: it is a new standard and being adopted. It sucks if youi don't have hardware support, even fast cpus can't keep up. It is meant for set top digital cable
[16:54] <pyroxide> so the hopper plays it?
[16:54] <Chillum> litb: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dvb-c+raspberry+pi
[16:55] <Chillum> looks like people have got it working
[16:55] <litb> Chillum: turns out that fullhd will use h264 and normalhd will use mpeg2
[16:55] <litb> will i need to install the codec on the dvb server or the viewing client?
[16:56] <Chillum> at least the mpeg-2 license is cheap: http://www.raspberrypi.com/mpeg-2-license-key/
[16:56] <Chillum> the viewing client does the decoding
[16:56] <litb> i.e on tvheadend ? i plan for that server to be able to deliver the tv stream on the LAN and primarily to a raspberry (kodi) client
[16:56] <Chillum> and you just put a license number in, you don't install it
[16:56] <litb> Chillum: ah i see. good to know
[16:57] <litb> Chillum: ah then i need to enter a key somewhere in the system, i suppose
[16:57] <Chillum> the instructions are on the page I linked to
[16:58] <Chillum> when they email you the license I assume they tell you what to do with it
[16:58] <litb> Chillum: but if i wanna do transcoding on the tvheadend device i suppose i need the license there too
[16:58] <pyroxide> yeah
[16:58] <pyroxide> stick it on config.txt
[16:58] <litb> i plan to device the mpeg2 stream there and encode it again with smaller resolution and x264
[16:58] <litb> s,device,decode,
[16:59] <Chillum> litb: well if you are transcoding then you want to license the one transcoding
[16:59] <Chillum> but why transcode?
[16:59] <litb> i wanna stream it to wlan devices like mobile phones
[16:59] <Chillum> if your transcoding box isn't a pi then it can convert mpeg-2 for free
[16:59] <litb> then i need smaller resolutions i suspect
[16:59] <Chillum> ah
[16:59] <Chillum> I see so you want a pi server for mobile devices
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[17:00] <litb> i would like to abuse the pi for it (the one which has the dvb-c stick and tvheadend on it)
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[17:00] <Chillum> I have never done it, but it shoudl work
[17:00] <litb> Chillum: yeah for both mobile devices/tablets and the pi that actually has kodi installed
[17:00] <Chillum> good idea
[17:01] <litb> that pi would also have some harddisks connected for recording
[17:01] <Chillum> you will need a powered usb hub for that
[17:01] <litb> hm i see
[17:01] <gsora> https://www.adafruit.com/products/2243 this will fit the zero GPIO pins?
[17:01] <Chillum> the usb can't provide much current
[17:01] <Chillum> yes
[17:01] <litb> yeah i heard that it has little power
[17:01] <Chillum> gsora: they they have the same gpios
[17:01] <litb> OK then i just get two licenses for the two pis
[17:02] <gsora> Chillum: nice, thanks :)
[17:02] <litb> any experience of how the switch-times are between television channels with an USB stick?
[17:02] <Chillum> don't know, have not used "channels" in years
[17:03] <litb> do you think television is going to die in the long term?
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[17:03] <Chillum> it will just change form
[17:03] <Chillum> the concept of scheduled television that you have to sit down at 8pm to watch is going to die
[17:04] <pyroxide> netflix, hulu, amazon instant video
[17:04] <Chillum> and sadly it seems they have moved the commercials into the shows themselves with banners
[17:04] <[Saint]> I think terrestrial broadcast TV is on its death knell personally.
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[17:04] <[Saint]> everyone seems to be switching to digital on-demand.
[17:04] <litb> then perhaps i shouldn't invest too much into my project..
[17:05] <litb> only the fun factor survives
[17:05] <[Saint]> my locale doesn't even have analogue television broadcast anymore, hasn't for about 4 years.
[17:06] <[Saint]> been pure digital for ages, stream TV on-demand.
[17:06] <[Saint]> people want to watch things when they want to watch them without having to set up recording cues or whatever.
[17:06] <Chillum> ya we stopped radio based television a long time ago
[17:06] <Chillum> needed the space for phones
[17:06] <[Saint]> same.
[17:07] <Chillum> litb: worst case scenario you repurpose it for something else
[17:07] <Chillum> fun factor is important
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[17:07] <[Saint]> Absolutely. I still work on a project specific to DAPs.
[17:08] <Chillum> �2.40 is no so much to pay for an mpeg-2 license
[17:08] <[Saint]> Being relevant isn't directly releated to being fun. :)
[17:08] <giddles> open elec ;)
[17:08] <litb> Chillum: i also have a pi 1 (B+)
[17:08] <litb> but i suspect it's of no use
[17:08] <litb> too weak
[17:08] <Chillum> it should do the exact same with GPU based activities
[17:08] <Chillum> but the CPU is much slower
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[17:08] <giddles> i have these monster coolants from teco
[17:09] <giddles> i touch with it also things near cpu :P now the new ones ordered warn about to mount it "shifted"...
[17:09] <Chillum> litb: you can always build it on a pi 1, and if it does not work just move the memory card over to the pi 2. Use a microsd in an adapter so it fits both
[17:10] <Chillum> for GPU transcoding the earlier pis should do as well
[17:10] <giddles> i think rpi foundation should give out some certificates which muntable hardware like this cpu coolants
[17:10] <litb> Chillum: hm maybe a good idea. i could use the pi 1 on the kodi frontend. i suspect it won't need to much cpu
[17:10] <pyroxide> ok my .htaccess isn't working correctly. and here i thought i was done with configuratiojn
[17:10] <giddles> i mounted em on all my pis, and now i read its danger
[17:10] <[Saint]> giddles: why are you actively cooling a raspi?
[17:10] <Chillum> litb: as a frontend you will find the menus a bit laggy but the video will be fine
[17:10] <[Saint]> It does all it's own thermal management.
[17:10] <Chillum> as a backend transcoder and server it should be all GPU work so it may not matter at all
[17:11] <[Saint]> it's an embedded SoC, running open, it cares not about heat.
[17:11] <[Saint]> you'll pretty much never get it to throttle unless you're in the Sahara.
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[17:11] <Chillum> giddles: I found that even running at full tilt they don't need cooling
[17:11] <giddles> i knew, but im hysterical german
[17:11] <giddles> :)
[17:12] <Chillum> blow gently on it
[17:12] <giddles> on coolants the cpu is near 40°C
[17:12] <giddles> i hope this extent the lifetime
[17:12] <litb> Chillum: ah i see. i thought it needs CPU to get the dvb stick going etc.
[17:12] <[Saint]> ~40C?
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[17:12] <giddles> 40-43
[17:12] <[Saint]> Right, that means it's doing precisely nothing.
[17:12] <[Saint]> That's normal operating temp for standard ambient temps.
[17:12] <litb> i will use the pi as the server. just trying. i can only save money haha
[17:13] <Chillum> litb: you should write a post somewhere about your project if you get it working
[17:13] <Chillum> people love that stuff
[17:13] <litb> Chillum: a problem could be the USB hub on the device.. it will need to share the network traffic to the client with the DVB-C usb stick
[17:13] <[Saint]> without airflow, a cooler block might actually make the pi run _hotter_ in fact.
[17:14] <[Saint]> by way of more mass to retain heat.
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[17:14] <Chillum> litb: good point, between the stick and the network you get something like 100m/bit
[17:14] <litb> full hd will cost 10mbps already from the stick, then another 10mbps to the client.
[17:15] <Chillum> should work then
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[17:15] <pyroxide> come on man you need to water cool your pi
[17:15] <litb> usb2 can have up to around 50Bbps i think (mega byte)
[17:16] <Chillum> ahh "All I/O uses the same bus so the combination of all I/O can not exceed the bus speed of an as yet hypothetical 60 MB/s" from http://elinux.org/RPi_Performance
[17:16] <[Saint]> if it's not sharing a bus with network, sure.
[17:16] <[Saint]> yup.
[17:16] <Chillum> it sounds like it may just barely work
[17:16] <[Saint]> the realist in me sides with no, but I'm prepared to be surprised.
[17:17] <Chillum> you can always turn down the transcode settings a little
[17:17] <Chillum> tune it
[17:17] <litb> hm two full hd streams should be well below 10MB/s.
[17:18] <Chillum> if all your clients are watching the same stream you could do a udp broadcast protocol so you only have to transmit twice
[17:18] <litb> they're like 3MB/s if i'm not missing something
[17:18] <Chillum> err transmit once I mean
[17:18] <litb> most of the time i have 1 client. sometimes i have two if my friend can't agree with me about what to watch
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[17:19] <litb> (ah wait.. that won'T work if i only have one stick.. well, then i guess i will only ever get one client xD)
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[17:19] <[Saint]> serious question: what on earth are you watching that isn't already uploaded to <insert_streaming_site_here>?
[17:19] <[Saint]> the internet is my TV these days.
[17:20] <pyroxide> merican football?
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[17:20] <litb> [Saint]: entertaining shows for the lower-iq range people like me xD
[17:21] <[Saint]> you're aware things like watchseries et al exist?
[17:21] <Chillum> [Saint]: I used to run mythtv for the few shows I could not find. Cookie shows and stuff. Over time they all showed up online and I cancelled cable
[17:21] <Chillum> cooking shows lol
[17:21] <[Saint]> COOKIE OM-NOM-NOM-NOM!
[17:21] <Chillum> lol
[17:21] <pyroxide> sudo shutdown -h now
[17:21] <pyroxide> asd;oikrgfhjiasdfgijohlsadfginubojagerijhlb sry wrong box
[17:21] <[Saint]> Password:
[17:21] <Chillum> it would make sense if you lived in a bandwidth expensive area
[17:22] <Chillum> pyroxide: at least you did not type it into the wrong shell
[17:22] <pyroxide> oh lawd.
[17:22] <Chillum> nothing worse than having a bunch of work open, then you try to shut down a remote box, then you see your screen go blank... OOPS
[17:22] <litb> [Saint]: i also don't like clicking link on link and passing through weird countdowns just to watch a movie
[17:22] <[Saint]> Yeah, granted. I have true unlimited internet, and pull around 1~2TB...sometimes 3~4TB a month or so.
[17:23] <Chillum> lol, do people watch it like that?
[17:24] <pyroxide> grrrrrrr... apache no like my .htaccess file
[17:24] <litb> seeya
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[17:26] <pyroxide> should i move my usb hard drive off my router and onto my pi and share it from there?
[17:27] <pyroxide> router is sharing kinda slow
[17:27] <[Saint]> pi is very unlikely to be faster.
[17:27] <[Saint]> unless your router is also sharing a single USB2 bus with network and USB.
[17:28] <pyroxide> doubt it since it's a TP-LINK Archer C7
[17:28] <[Saint]> which I would sincerely hope isn't true.
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[17:29] <Chillum> you want as little network activity on the pi as possible, sounds like you will need it all
[17:30] <[Saint]> God I hate my partner's cat sometimes.
[17:30] <Chillum> I never used my routers file sharing option, I just use my desktop
[17:30] <Chillum> I live my wife's pussy cat
[17:30] <Chillum> like
[17:31] <[Saint]> "Hey, ass-hat, I'm thirsty!"
[17:31] <[Saint]> ...I just filled up your water dish buddy, look...see?
[17:31] <[Saint]> "..."; <flips water dish upside down while maintaining eye contact>
[17:31] <[Saint]> ...
[17:31] <[Saint]> "Water. Now. Thirsty"
[17:31] <Chillum> use the cat as a mop
[17:32] <[Saint]> :))
[17:32] <Chillum> then it will lick the water off its fur
[17:32] <Chillum> problem solved
[17:32] <Chillum> remember to flip it once one side has absorbed all it can
[17:33] <pyroxide> then wring it out
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[17:40] <pyroxide> hooray another obstacle cleared
[17:41] <pyroxide> now...i own a domain, am i able to link that to my pi using my isp's DNS?
[17:41] <giddles> back to diesel vs petrol torque stats? ;)
[17:42] <giddles> ow wrong channel
[17:42] <giddles> ya you can, use no-ip.net ?
[17:42] <pyroxide> yeah i got that
[17:42] <giddles> nice cron for a starting script
[17:42] <giddles> and on every reboot you be updated
[17:42] <giddles> or 10,20,30,40,50 * * *
[17:42] <giddles> what you like
[17:43] <giddles> open port in the router
[17:43] <giddles> or mapp it
[17:43] <giddles> and you are done
[17:44] <giddles> <- is doofos and setuped this in 2min
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[17:49] <Neko`> hi
[17:50] <pyroxide> y halo thar
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[17:53] <pyroxide> giddles: so i need the managed dns service?
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[17:54] <Neko`> i have a probleme, im using a raspberry pi 2 with arch arm, with i3 i have that http://i.imgur.com/iaKVMpx.png
[17:54] <Neko`> that not the true color for the borders
[17:55] <Neko`> does my hdmi to vga adaptator can do that ?
[17:56] <Kitt3n> pyroxide, if your WAN IP is static, you can use your domain provider's settings to set the IP the domain refers to, to your IP
[17:57] <Neko`> also, xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
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[17:58] <pyroxide> ah so i think i figured it out...i want to use domain forwarding instead of setting external nameservers
[17:58] <pyroxide> Kitt3n: wan ip is not static
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[17:59] <hje841> I just dug up an old DBT-122 bluetooth dongle and tried it in my Raspberry Pi B+ 1 but it does not enumerate. dmesg gives me an error. Do you have any ideas what is going on? it behaves the same when plugged in to my Arch Linux laptop
[17:59] <Kitt3n> pyroxide, could try poking your ISP about static wan ip then :p
[17:59] <pyroxide> they only provide it to businesses.
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[17:59] <Kitt3n> hje841, and the error is? :p pastebin it
[18:00] <Kitt3n> pyroxide, LOL
[18:00] <pyroxide> yeah cox is nasty
[18:00] <Kitt3n> suppose you need to use a dynamic dns service then
[18:00] <Kitt3n> there's probably one that allows you to use custom domains
[18:00] <Kitt3n> :P
[18:02] <hje841> Kitt3n, http://paste.debian.net/363801/ <- short error message from dmesg
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[18:04] <hje841> ^this is from my Arch laptop, but the result is the same in my Rpi
[18:04] <Neko`> any idea for xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default ?
[18:04] <divx118> hje841, broken or not supported would be my guess.
[18:05] <hje841> divx118, it is on the list of supported devices, so I'm guessing bricked
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[18:05] <hje841> the link and pwr lights are solid green, so maybe that's a clue :)
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[18:08] <hje841> thanks
[18:08] <divx118> hje841, Yep, you are out of luck. However usb bt modules are pretty cheap.
[18:08] <dmcc> Hi all
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[18:08] <dmcc> Does anyone know of a project tutorial for pressing a button and a short audio file plays?
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[18:09] <aslmx> dmcc: https://www.google.de/search?q=raspberry+gpio+play+audio+file+button&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US&client=palemoon&gws_rd=cr&ei=OJCSVpOBNqWhyAOw1ZOIDg
[18:09] <aslmx> theres plenty google results
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[18:10] <dmcc> aslmx: Thanks!
[18:10] <Tenkawa> hi all
[18:10] <pyroxide> dmcc so you are turning a pip into a Staples' Easy Button?
[18:10] <Chillum> pale moon?
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[18:10] <dmcc> pyroxide: Exactly that but with a different sound file
[18:10] <Chillum> "That was sleazy!"
[18:11] <pyroxide> have to power it, though...
[18:11] <dmcc> I wonder how the Staples button is powered. Is it a battery or something similar to the Hue light remote control where it uses the push action to power for a few seconds.
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[18:18] <Neko`> do i need a special driver for xorg ?
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[18:19] <pyroxide> just mesa
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[18:25] <Tenkawa> yay got all of my non-x86 boxes running
[18:25] <Tenkawa> (which is most of my machines)
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[18:32] <pyroxide> Tenkawa; how many is that?
[18:34] <merrick`> all of them, duh
[18:34] <Tenkawa> pyroxide: around 12 I think powered up currently
[18:34] <Tenkawa> about 10 more offline
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[18:35] <Tenkawa> arm and mips boxes
[18:36] <merrick`> jeez
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[18:36] <Tenkawa> why jeez?
[18:36] <pyroxide> arm so stronk.
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[18:38] <merrick`> that seems like a lot of boxes that's all
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[18:39] <merrick`> then again, if they're all small pi type things that's not crazy
[18:39] <Tenkawa> I do a lot of distributed compiling too
[18:39] <pyroxide> http://pyroxide.noip.us yis i am master web developer
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[18:40] <pyroxide> with a ricecar
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[18:41] <pyroxide> need to add youtube to keep track of my strems. because i am pro gamer mlg 420 blaze it
[18:43] <pyroxide> ok back to being serial
[18:44] <merrick`> cant load your webpage pyroxide
[18:44] <pyroxide> oh?
[18:44] <merrick`> connection timed out
[18:44] <pyroxide> innnnteresting
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[18:45] <merrick`> cant hit port 80 at all
[18:45] <merrick`> internet cant see your webserver :P
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[18:48] <pyroxide> strange, as i can through wan ip
[18:48] <pyroxide> perhaps apache is not configured right
[18:50] <merrick`> i checked with this http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
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[18:52] <pyroxide> http://i.imgur.com/0JQO095.png
[18:52] <pyroxide> looks right...
[18:53] <pyroxide> pi is set statically to that ip
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[18:55] <giddles> hmm anyone here is expert on samba server on an rpi
[18:55] <giddles> i can open also the /pi/ directory
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[18:55] <giddles> quite scary
[18:55] <giddles> two folder pop up, the shared one and the home dir
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[18:57] <pyroxide> giddles you can comment out the lines that share the home directory
[18:57] <giddles> where i find those line?
[18:57] <pyroxide> smb.conf
[18:57] <giddles> one second ill boot
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[18:59] <danhardman> Hardware question, if i want an extension for my jumper cables, like > 1m, what wire should I be getting? I'm okay with soldering. Idea is to have a DS18B20+ a decent distance away from the breadboard
[19:00] <merrick`> pyroxide, i'm getting nothing when trying to connect directly to port 80 through pyroxide.noip.us and that port testing site says it's closed as well
[19:00] <merrick`> you sure pyroxide.noip.us is resolving correctly?
[19:00] <pyroxide> that is my wan ip
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[19:01] <giddles> im in [home]
[19:02] <giddles> @ snb.com
[19:02] <giddles> so just #homes?
[19:02] <pyroxide> yes homes.
[19:03] <pyroxide> [homes]
[19:03] <giddles> nice
[19:03] <giddles> :)
[19:03] <giddles> hrhr
[19:03] <giddles> thx
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[19:10] <giddles> hmm bad conf
[19:11] <giddles> seems as i login with only my user
[19:11] <giddles> if i activate #home again i can login back
[19:11] <giddles> no docus.. damn
[19:11] <giddles> if home is deactivated i have no login
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[19:12] <giddles> so for th auth are the rpi usergroups nessescary?
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[19:15] <pyroxide> giddles i had to play around with smbpasswd
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[19:15] <pyroxide> and chown my shared directory
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[19:16] <pyroxide> i take that back
[19:16] <pyroxide> i had to chmod it
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[19:26] <Tenkawa> hehehe my pi zero now has a case and heatsink yay
[19:26] <deshipu> make it bigger
[19:27] <pyroxide> still waiting on amazon to deliver my 3d printer tape so that i can finish my pi2 case
[19:28] <Tenkawa> got a pi2, pi zero, olinuixo lime2, and mips ci20 now sitting beside each other
[19:28] <Tenkawa> er olinuxino
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[19:31] <Tenkawa> are there no hardware sensors at all on the pi zero?
[19:31] <Tenkawa> (not surprised.. just curious)
[19:31] <pksato> hardware sensors?
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[19:31] <Tenkawa> pksato: yeah for temp, voltage detection, etc ie used by lmsensors
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[19:32] <pksato> have, like on rpi/rpi2
[19:32] <Tenkawa> I actually havent tried probing my pi1/2's to see if they do either
[19:32] <Tenkawa> some of my other boards do
[19:33] <merrick`> Tenkawa, what case did you use/make for the zero?
[19:33] <merrick`> mine is still in the package :X
[19:33] <danhardman> Is anyone able to answer my question? Think I managed to ask while everyone was helping someone else haha
[19:33] <Tenkawa> merrick`: I got one of c4labs i think
[19:33] <Tenkawa> danhardman: i didnt see it.. whats the q?
[19:34] <danhardman> if i want an extension for my jumper cables, like > 1m, what wires should I be getting? I'm okay with soldering. Idea is to have a DS18B20+ a decent distance away from the breadboard
[19:34] <Tenkawa> ahhh
[19:34] <methuzla> danhardman try googling "DS18B20+ max cable length"
[19:34] <Tenkawa> i unfortunately am too rusty to help there
[19:34] <computix> shiftplusone: Now I've got a new one. HDMI didn't work anymore! If you want to kill your raspi's HDMI, just switch it off and back on within a second :-(
[19:34] <computix> shiftplusone: Now I've got a new one. HDMI didn't work anymore! If you want to kill your raspi's HDMI, just switch it off and back on within a second :-(
[19:35] <Tenkawa> havent soldered anything and had to worry about wire length resistance in a long time
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[19:35] <shiftplusone> computix, I switch my pi on and off all the time.
[19:36] <shiftplusone> Wonder if it's the display doing something interesting
[19:36] <Chillum> I really wish the pi zero's microsd did not stick out.
[19:36] <Chillum> I wonder if you can get slightly shorter microsd cards
[19:36] <computix> shiftplusone: Me too, but this time I was faster than raspi X)
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[19:36] <computix> shiftplusone: I'll keep you updated.
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[19:37] <Tenkawa> Chillum: this case covers up the excess in the card slot nicely
[19:38] <danhardman> methuzla, okay cool, thanks
[19:38] <danhardman> methuzla, Found what i was looking for
[19:38] <Chillum> I am thinking for embedded systems where you never need to access the card. It just makes the whole form factor a little bigger
[19:38] <Chillum> It is not that much space though
[19:40] <Chillum> I guess without the push back slot it would be really hard to remove if not for it protruding
[19:40] <Chillum> and those push back slots are a lot bigger
[19:40] <Tenkawa> indeed
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[19:57] <merrick`> pyroxide, what 3d printer do you have?
[19:58] <niston> oh
[19:58] <niston> Compute Module V2 has been announced?
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[20:00] <Tenkawa> niston: got a link
[20:00] <Tenkawa> ?
[20:00] <niston> yeah but I don't think its exactly a reliable source
[20:00] <niston> http://linuxgizmos.com/mini-pc-taps-rpi-compute-module-and-supports-rpi-2/
[20:00] <Tenkawa> ahh ok
[20:00] <niston> besides I just noticed its from 2015/02
[20:00] <niston> however "he fact that Wireless Things launched the same day as the Pi 2 — and that the company has identified the targeted ship date for the RPI 2 Compute Module suggests some level of approval by the Pi Foundation.."
[20:01] <niston> [t]...
[20:01] <Tenkawa> ah
[20:01] <niston> "targeted ship date"
[20:01] <niston> so, I was wondering
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[20:01] <Tenkawa> I'm going to be playing around with the pi zero a lot i think
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[20:02] <niston> I wish I could just buy one
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[20:03] <niston> last time I checked they were still sold out
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[20:04] <Tenkawa> niston: i got very lucky and got one ordered one afternoon while adafruit had a new shipment
[20:05] <Tenkawa> put a case and heatsink on it last night... i'm really having fun
[20:05] <niston> I'd love to get one for a project at work
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[20:05] <niston> that involves the tower light stack I bought from the chinas, a while ago
[20:06] <Tenkawa> niston: yeah I would have a lot of uses at one place i worked for them if only they had been around then
[20:06] <niston> I have used the RPi1 in some embedded projects
[20:06] <niston> mostly fine, because ethernet was required anyways
[20:07] <niston> but the tower light stack thing could do with wlan
[20:07] <Tenkawa> ah
[20:07] <niston> btw did you see there's a WLAN board now that doesnt tie up USB
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[20:07] <jancoow> my problem to, most of the time i need ethernet
[20:07] <Tenkawa> yes
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[20:07] <niston> it hooks an ESP8266 to the SDIO interface, quite clever :)
[20:07] <Tenkawa> I'm thinking ofg getting it if i can deal with gpio solderhing
[20:07] <Tenkawa> er soldering
[20:08] <niston> why couldn't you?
[20:08] <Tenkawa> niston: yeah we have it locally
[20:08] <niston> I mean the gpio soldering
[20:08] <Tenkawa> niston: long story.. lets just say soldering and me don't have a good history
[20:08] <niston> oic
[20:08] <jancoow> lol
[20:08] <jancoow> you should not feel with your hands if your soldertip is hot
[20:09] <Tenkawa> jancoow: heh if it were only that
[20:09] <niston> I've found that having a good iron can make huge performance difference
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[20:09] <Tenkawa> my coordination is the problem
[20:09] <jancoow> oh tip nr1
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[20:09] <niston> the rest of the skill can be obtained by practicing
[20:09] <jancoow> buy a third hand
[20:09] <niston> just like kung fu
[20:09] <niston> :>
[20:09] <Tenkawa> yeah i've thought about third hands
[20:10] <Berg> Good Morning Grasshopper
[20:10] <jancoow> not a real third hand ~ that solder standing thinhy
[20:10] <Tenkawa> because i'd definitely prefer gpio vs the usb wifi i'm using now
[20:10] <Tenkawa> jancoow: i know what you meant
[20:10] <jancoow> :)
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[20:10] <Tenkawa> I'm ancient... i was soldering before they were avail
[20:11] <Tenkawa> think i built my first board around 81 or so
[20:11] <Berg> Make Adversity your friend Grasshopper
[20:11] <niston> Tenkawa, can they not be had as assembled boards?
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[20:11] <Tenkawa> niston: it attaches to the gpio header on the zero
[20:11] <Tenkawa> which is empty
[20:12] <niston> ah lol
[20:12] <niston> yeah
[20:12] <Tenkawa> it isnt pre-pinned
[20:12] <niston> you need to solder the header
[20:12] <niston> but hey thats very easy
[20:12] <Tenkawa> yep
[20:12] <Tenkawa> niston: haaha if it can be oopsed. i can
[20:12] <niston> nah dude, its really not that difficult
[20:13] <Berg> solder vids on youtube
[20:13] <Tenkawa> :) i am pondering it... i'd really like to have a spare pi zero (or 10) just in case
[20:13] <niston> also these connectors, once you got one pin right, rest will be cake
[20:13] <Tenkawa> Berg: you missed the early part, i know how to solder fine... i have coordination issues
[20:14] <Berg> I do to
[20:14] <Berg> I had stroke
[20:14] <Berg> i have kids
[20:14] <Berg> :)
[20:15] <jancoow> but like niston says, solder tip matters
[20:15] <Tenkawa> I'll definitely try something.. just a question probably of when heheheh
[20:15] <jancoow> i bought a smaller tip and soldering is so much easier now
[20:16] <Tenkawa> indeed
[20:16] <jancoow> (still a bad cheap one which drop heats very fast)
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[20:17] <Berg> get a raspberry pi 2 to run a robot arm to solder for ya?
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[20:17] <Tenkawa> cheers all.. bbl..
[20:17] <Berg> have fun
[20:17] <Tenkawa> hopefully this weather will get better
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[20:17] <Berg> its winter?
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[20:18] <jancoow> for me its winter
[20:19] <jancoow> or at least, it should be winter
[20:19] <jancoow> but its way to hot outside
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[20:21] <B0g4r7> You haven't soldered until you've used 3 irons at once.
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[20:24] <jancoow> thats bs
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[20:27] <B0g4r7> Two in the right hand, chopsticks-style, one in the right toes, solder in left hand. Lit torch nearby for heating the irons real hot.
[20:28] <B0g4r7> For those big power planes.
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[20:38] <Berg> I solder but if its like a zero to do i get my 33 year old son to do it
[20:38] <Berg> thats what kids are for
[20:38] <niston> xD
[20:39] <Berg> anyone done a cluster of zero's?
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[20:40] <niston> clustering them would be slick if there was an ethernet switch that does have built in USB ethernet adapters for some of it's ports
[20:41] <Kitt3n> niston, well, usb 2 ethernet adapters are cheap
[20:41] <Hammered|> Yeah, gets fairly expensive when you have to add Ethernet.
[20:41] <niston> sure, but then there's even more stuff and wiring
[20:42] <B0g4r7> My usb ethernet adapters suck. 10-base-T only.
[20:42] <jancoow> LOL
[20:42] <Kitt3n> B0g4r7, lol? o_O
[20:42] <niston> 10base-t?!
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[20:42] <jancoow> at least its... something
[20:42] <B0g4r7> That's all they'll do. I got 'em for like $3 each some years ago.
[20:42] <jancoow> but what if you put pi0 in gadget modus
[20:43] <Hammered|> I got all excited - then saw no Ethernet- bowed out.
[20:43] <jancoow> and make a tower of 4 height
[20:43] <niston> go go gadgeto high speed networking?
[20:43] <t3chguy> niston: easy, just get a regular USB hub, another Zero, have a single Ethernet adapter and use g_ether for the others
[20:43] <jancoow> plug them in a usb hub, then you have them powerd AND a 4 ethernet lines
[20:43] <jancoow> what he saids
[20:44] <jancoow> 1 pi acts like a router
[20:44] <t3chguy> yep
[20:44] <niston> t3chguy: how do you connect the others to the hub ?
[20:44] <Berg> If you make it they will come
[20:44] <t3chguy> niston: USB to MicroUSB into the Data OTG Port
[20:44] <jancoow> and the other pis are getting power AND eterhetn through teh same usb cable
[20:44] <t3chguy> which is the only one that allows for Gadget functionlityu
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[20:44] <t3chguy> which is the only one that allows for Gadget functionlity *
[20:44] <t3chguy> I plan to make a cluster of them in this method
[20:44] <Berg> http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Ports-USB-3-0-Gigabit-Ethernet-Port-RJ45-Wired-Network-Adapter-Hub-to-1000Mbps-/371451969611?hash=item567c43404b:g:LVwAAOSw37tWCkQk
[20:44] <niston> ah so one is in normal USB mode, the others in OTG
[20:45] <t3chguy> yes niston
[20:45] <jancoow> yes
[20:45] <ffledgling> I have a question: I'm trying to ssh into my raspberrypi (gen1, model B I think), that I just flashed with raspbian, but I can't seem to login
[20:45] <niston> but then you have one .... err thing of a bottleneck accessing ethernet
[20:45] <t3chguy> ffledgling: how is it connected to your network
[20:45] <Berg> why do i have to always think up the best ideas...
[20:45] <ffledgling> login fails with the error: ermission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive)
[20:45] <Berg> \/me sighs
[20:45] <B0g4r7> ffledgling, ;/p: pi/raspberry
[20:45] <jancoow> does it has network ?
[20:45] <t3chguy> are you reaching the correct IP address?
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[20:45] <ffledgling> jancoow: yes
[20:45] <ffledgling> t3chguy: yes
[20:45] <jancoow> which pass/user are you using?
[20:46] <ffledgling> nmap shows the mac address belongs to the raspberry pi foundation
[20:46] <ffledgling> jancoow: default
[20:46] <ffledgling> pi/raspberry
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[20:46] <B0g4r7> That works for me on Raspbian.
[20:46] <ffledgling> I modified the sshd_config to allow password authentication, it still doesn't work
[20:46] <ffledgling> B0g4r7: yeah, it works when I connect to it with a keyboar d and monitor
[20:46] <ffledgling> just not over ss
[20:46] <ffledgling> *ssh
[20:47] <B0g4r7> What ssh client are you using?
[20:47] <ffledgling> openssh I guess?
[20:47] <niston> t3chguy: is there an implementation of this for windows?
[20:47] <Hammered|> Putty
[20:47] <Hammered|> ?
[20:47] <t3chguy> niston: of what?
[20:48] <ffledgling> Whatever comes standard with OSX
[20:48] <niston> USB device networking
[20:48] <t3chguy> g_ether? yeah
[20:48] <t3chguy> its pretty standard
[20:48] <niston> excellent
[20:48] <t3chguy> its how Android Tethering works
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[20:48] <B0g4r7> I'd expect that to work.
[20:48] <Hammered|> I would to.
[20:48] <t3chguy> so you could in essence use a semi-decent Desktop machine to act as the "router"
[20:48] <B0g4r7> I guess make sure it's not using sshv1 or something, but idk why it would be.
[20:48] <t3chguy> and in theory that could be faster than the Ethernet on-board the Pi2 etc
[20:49] <ffledgling> B0g4r7: It's not a problem with the client
[20:49] <ffledgling> It's a problem with how openssh seems to be configured on raspbian
[20:49] <Hammered|> You can ping it and all that good stuff right?
[20:49] <ffledgling> Hammered|: I wouldn't get a "permission denied" error if I couldn't reach the box :)
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[20:50] <ffledgling> The authentication methods allowed seem to be just "publickey,keyboard-interactive"
[20:50] <Hammered|> ffledgling: Dude I can't see your screen, so just checking.
[20:50] <B0g4r7> keyboard-interactive would be what you're using.
[20:51] <ffledgling> Hammered|: sorry, didn't mean to be rude, I did post the error message above though, see scrollback
[20:51] <ffledgling> B0g4r7: oh?
[20:51] <ffledgling> wouldn't it be "password" ?
[20:51] <niston> t3chguy: less overhead than standard USB ethernet ?
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[20:52] <t3chguy> niston: well the overhead wouldn't exist as soon
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[20:52] <t3chguy> so it in theory can use the full bandwidth of the USB Bus if both sides can support that
[20:52] <t3chguy> and if the Desktop has on-board GigE then it could be rather rapid
[20:53] <niston> ah yeah, same as using a GigE adapter
[20:53] <t3chguy> though I wouldn't trust Windows for that, as its drivers are probably flawed, I'm sure it'll work, probably just not as swiftly
[20:53] <B0g4r7> ffledgling, I guess I'm not 100% sure. I thought "keyboard-interactive" was where you were prompted to type the password.
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[20:53] <ffledgling> I checked, you're right
[20:53] <ffledgling> Then it must be something else
[20:53] <niston> t3chguy: an alix APU board might do fine
[20:53] <niston> as the "master" in such a scheme
[20:54] <niston> err pc-engines APU
[20:54] <niston> alix is an older pc-engines board :)
[20:54] <B0g4r7> ffledgling, your command is something like "ssh pi@192.168.1.23", and then you're prompted "pi@192.168.1.23's password:"?
[20:54] <Hammered|> No Sh*T someone else using a APU?
[20:54] <niston> as it has 3 NICs, you could even team them
[20:54] <ffledgling> B0g4r7: yessir
[20:55] <niston> Hammered|: pc-engines APU ?
[20:55] <Hammered|> Yep!
[20:55] <niston> yea :)
[20:55] <niston> also have an alix, but its not in use anymore
[20:55] <B0g4r7> ffledgling, yeah, I'd expect that to work. Maybe the system log on the pi would reveal a clue...
[20:55] <Hammered|> I have VMware on it running about 5 linux boxes.
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[20:55] <niston> heh
[20:56] <ffledgling> I type the password in , it fails, do so 2 more times, ssh error out with "Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive)."
[20:56] <niston> it supports VMware?
[20:56] <niston> didn't know that :)
[20:56] <ffledgling> B0g4r7: system log as in sshd's log or systemctl log or something else?
[20:57] <B0g4r7> ffledgling, uh, the things in /var/log/. sshd's log entries would be what I'd look for.
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[20:58] <ffledgling> okay
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[21:01] <niston> t3chguy: "XHCI root hubs do not have this constraint: they may provide a full USB2 HS channel's worth of bandwidth to each port." <- so the host might have a few PCIe USB XHCI controllers, and one slave Pi attached to each port, and each port would still get full 480mbps bandwidth.
[21:01] <niston> now that is interesting
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[21:05] <thejman> Can somebody help me with port forwarding?
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[21:06] <thejman> I'm using mycloud on my rpi and i'm attempting to do some port forwarding on it but i dont know what ports to use
[21:06] <thejman> I tried STart 80 and End 80 but it didnt seem to work
[21:06] <niston> t3chguy: this means that, with one USB 3.0 XHCI host card, you could support a theoretical 10.416 Pis @ full 480Mbps - if it had 10.416 ports
[21:07] <niston> t3chguy: I think I've seen cards with 4 ports. means each of those would get full USB2 bandwidth, with no congestion ever.
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[21:09] <niston> t3chguy: using a pizza box server that takes 2 PCIe cards and has built in USB3 and dual GigE, you could then support 16 Pis in a small rack and uplink them through LAGged 2x1Gbps
[21:09] <Berg> what is zero usb3 or 2?
[21:09] <niston> 2
[21:10] <niston> well maybe just 12 Pis if the built in USB has only one host controller.
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[21:12] <niston> 12 Pi's at 480mbps each - might perhaps even warrant a 10GigE uplink.
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[21:12] <niston> or at least a quad port NIC with teamed adapters
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[21:16] <niston> hmm http://www.ioiusb.com/Host-Adapter/U3X8-PCIE8XE102.htm
[21:16] <niston> 8 USB 3.0 host ports from a single PCIe card
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[21:24] <niston> t3chguy: make a PCB for 4 CMs that fits together with the PCBs from the drive bay unit
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[21:36] <gzuh> is there a chromium os for rpi?
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[21:55] <t3chguy> niston: I'll design it if you sponsor the PCB Fabrication xD
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[22:02] <jancoow> gzuh: yes, recommed: no
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[22:03] <jancoow> niston: but if you wanna do cluster computing you never need that speed :)
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[22:08] <doomlord> is there any difference between the rpi b+ and rpi2 for video encoding/decoding (i heard the gpu was basically the same?)
[22:10] <pyroxide> maybe for encoding
[22:10] <Hammered|> I guess I'm confused as to what anyone except a highly hit sight might be in cluster computing might be.
[22:11] <Hammered|> Oracle, and Amazon have solutions to this already.
[22:11] <Hammered|> I don't see how the Pi can participate.
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[22:12] <jancoow> Hammered|: what do you mean
[22:12] <jancoow> you can settup your own pi cluster , just for fun
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[22:12] <Hammered|> Aside from an experimental environment.
[22:12] <jancoow> nothing to deal with oracle or amazon
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[22:14] <Hammered|> What can I expect to see in a clustered Pi environment?
[22:15] <Hammered|> What does it do to expand the Internet?
[22:15] <Chillum> bottlenecking in the network
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[22:16] <Chillum> I have a 16 pi cluster setup. It is really only good for parallel processing of tasks that don't need a lot of information transfer and can't be accelerated with GPU
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[22:16] <Chillum> 16x pi2
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[22:17] <Hammered|> If I bottleneck a Pi, I don't think I'm in the right place :-)
[22:17] <Chillum> http://images.highinbc.com/RPi2_cluster.jpg <--
[22:17] <pyroxide> trhat's 64 processors
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[22:17] <Chillum> well the ethernet only does 100mbit
[22:17] <Chillum> and 16 gb of ram too boot
[22:17] <pyroxide> my desktop has 16
[22:18] <pyroxide> of course i spent 3000 on it
[22:18] <ozzzy> might make it to I5 speeds
[22:18] <Berg> but only in 1gig units
[22:18] <ozzzy> LOL
[22:18] <Chillum> it is a great way to practice making software for a distributed environment
[22:18] <ozzzy> it is that
[22:18] <Chillum> pyroxide: 16 cpus or 16gb ram?
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[22:18] <doomlord> scale model of a cluster
[22:18] <Chillum> I just got 32gb ram for $200
[22:18] <pyroxide> 8 threads, 16gb ram, water cooled R9 290X
[22:18] <Chillum> sooo much nicer for sorting lists and such
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[22:19] <Hammered|> Beowulf / Pericus is already doing thins on a big "massive" scale.
[22:19] <t3chguy> I should watercool the 280x in my old system
[22:19] <t3chguy> but that means removing the beautiful triple slot rad on it
[22:19] <Berg> i have 4gig ram on a dual core cost me nothing got it at rubbish tip
[22:19] <pyroxide> lol triple slot
[22:19] <Berg> <---story teller
[22:20] <t3chguy> yeah, one of the Asus Matrix series pyroxide :P
[22:20] <t3chguy> Berg: for most programming I use a really thin Lenovo I got for £20 lol
[22:20] <t3chguy> its light and battery lasts a while
[22:20] <Hammered|> I did a little work on the Chaos project.
[22:20] <pyroxide> asus directCU II was a bad idea...thing totally overheated all the time
[22:21] <jancoow> i've a surface pro 4 and it SUCKS
[22:21] <t3chguy> pyroxide: I wanted a dCU II, instead I got the Matrix
[22:21] <pyroxide> jancoow: can i have it?
[22:21] <t3chguy> the thing has a physical button for max-fan mode
[22:21] <jancoow> hehe
[22:21] <t3chguy> and a setting for Liquid Nitrogen cooling
[22:21] <Hammered|> jancoow: Oh they blow!
[22:21] <jancoow> blow dust yeah, lot of problems with linux on it
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[22:22] <Hammered|> jancoow: You got a Surface and tried to load Linus on it???
[22:22] <Berg> t3chguy: my desktop cost 350 bucks 7 years ago its been a great investment run mint mate and its got all i need and now with my 3 x 48 dollar pi 2 i have plenty of desktops or controllers etc
[22:22] <Hammered|> Linux
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[22:23] <Berg> if it gets hot just cool it with garden hose = water cooled
[22:24] <pyroxide> what would one expect installing linux on microsoft hardware?
[22:24] <t3chguy> Berg: I have two desktops, one running Skylake and a 980Ti Winderp10, another running an 8Core FX with an RoG Board, and the Matrix RoG 280x also Winderp 10, a £20 laptop running Kubuntu15 (shoved an old SSD to make it a bit faster), 2 Pi0s, 1Pi2, and too many Arduinos and random other I2C and SPI things
[22:24] <niston> dip cooling? drop in pond?
[22:24] <t3chguy> lol niston
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[22:25] <t3chguy> have you guys seen LinusTechTips' Whole room watercooling?
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[22:25] <t3chguy> he stuck a bunch of radiators on the roof of a house, had copper tubing go all around a room, and connect several PCs to it
[22:25] <Berg> heheh
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[22:25] <Berg> plug and play
[22:26] <Berg> sahara housing department
[22:26] <Berg> :)
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[22:27] <Berg> you have to love dis channel
[22:27] <Berg> logic who needs it
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[22:27] <Hammered|> Not cool enough in the basement?
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[22:32] <t3chguy> hmm
[22:32] <t3chguy> I should monitor the temps in my attic during peak temps
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[22:32] <t3chguy> and see whether it'd be a good idea to move my PC there
[22:32] <t3chguy> in the Winter it'd be great, about 10 below average house temp
[22:33] <t3chguy> unfortunately no basement
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[22:38] <pyroxide> i opened up port 80 on my router, forwarded it to my pi, and it's still being rejected. is there some default setting in apache that i missed?
[22:38] <t3chguy> no pyroxide, as to Apache it'll look like its coming from your router
[22:38] <t3chguy> and not from the outside
[22:38] <jancoow> Hammered|: yeah ofc.. what else
[22:38] <jancoow> using crappy windows?
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[22:39] <jancoow> never getting back. never ever
[22:40] <t3chguy> jancoow: what about game compatibility?
[22:40] <ppq> pyroxide, if you can't access your pi over port 80 using your externel ip from within your local network (the same where the pi lives), that's normal. not every router supports nat loopback
[22:41] <ppq> pyroxide, try to access it from outside. if that still doesn't work there is either something wrong on your pi or your router has a firewall (in addition to the natural "blocking" by nat)
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[22:42] <jancoow> pyroxide: does internal works?
[22:42] <jancoow> if so, it has nothing to do with apache
[22:42] <pyroxide> yeah i can reach it when i use the ip on my computer
[22:42] <jancoow> t3chguy: oke well you got me partly. 60% of my games are running on linux, and like 30% just run fine in WINE
[22:43] <jancoow> so yeah, on my desktop i also have a hdd with windows for gaming :/
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[22:43] <t3chguy> lol
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[22:43] <t3chguy> I have all my dev-tools on my Windows machines
[22:43] <t3chguy> but I don't think I've used them once in the past 8-10 months
[22:43] <jancoow> and i borrow the sf4 from school for developing windows phone app
[22:43] <t3chguy> I prefer them lagging on this slow laptop
[22:43] <jancoow> ah nice
[22:44] <t3chguy> but at least its linux
[22:44] <jancoow> which laptop do you have?
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[22:44] <t3chguy> its a Lenovo G50-30 which I acquired for £20 (10% of price, used)
[22:44] <t3chguy> and I just stuck a 120GB SSD into it from my Desktop (my Desktop received a Samsung Evo 250GB instead)
[22:45] <jancoow> BOX
[22:45] <pyroxide> i have 3x 850 EVO 500GBs
[22:45] <t3chguy> neat pyroxide
[22:45] <jancoow> i buyed a hp elitebook second hand and put in a ssd also
[22:45] <t3chguy> I have a 500GB Evo in my Skylake machine
[22:45] <t3chguy> but don't think I'd ever need 3 xD
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[22:46] <pyroxide> my steam account has 180 games.
[22:46] <jancoow> but i've to go. HAve a nice day/night/morning w/e
[22:46] <t3chguy> the SSD in this laptop is an OCZ Agility 3, its somewhat old, but its speeds are better than a lot of current SSDs
[22:46] <t3chguy> lol pyroxide
[22:46] <t3chguy> jancoow: you too
[22:46] <jancoow> with family sharing i have 390 :)
[22:46] <t3chguy> insane
[22:46] <t3chguy> want to add me to the family xD?
[22:46] <jancoow> haha
[22:47] <pyroxide> and i hate load times.
[22:47] <jancoow> sorry mate :)
[22:47] <t3chguy> I'd probably add like 5
[22:47] <t3chguy> unique ones
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[22:47] <t3chguy> only 46 titles on Steam here
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[22:53] <pyroxide> i can't believe that it's my router not accepting port 80. it's not a cheap one by any means.
[22:54] <pyroxide> but it must be. it's the only explanation.
[22:56] <pyroxide> i suppose i could close up SSH and DMZ it just for a test
[22:56] <t3chguy> P
[22:56] <t3chguy> pyroxide: sometimes it's your isp
[22:57] <t3chguy> Some isps prevent port 80,443,25
[22:57] <pyroxide> COX never used to
[22:57] <t3chguy> Worth a try using DMZ
[22:59] <pyroxide> iptables is gibberish to me
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[23:04] <UncleKiwi> hey how much power can the Rpi2 provide to the usb ports
[23:04] <gordonDrogon> up to 1.2 amps in total over all 4 ports.
[23:04] <gordonDrogon> this assumes the PSU you use to power the Pi is capable.
[23:05] <UncleKiwi> i am wondering if it would power an external msata drive
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[23:06] <gordonDrogon> you'd need to check the specifications of the drive..
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[23:10] <UncleKiwi> its 5volt right
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[23:10] <UncleKiwi> ?
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[23:11] <ppq> external msata drive
[23:11] <ppq> ?
[23:11] <ppq> what is that
[23:11] <UncleKiwi> its like a ssd HDD in an inclosure
[23:11] <UncleKiwi> very small
[23:12] <UncleKiwi> like a memory stick
[23:12] <UncleKiwi> it uses less than 1 watt
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[23:12] <UncleKiwi> but it never worked on the old B+
[23:12] <UncleKiwi> im wondering if the rpi2 brings any more power to the table
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[23:13] <kookie> yeh, put the rpi2 on the table
[23:13] <UncleKiwi> hahaha
[23:14] <UncleKiwi> i dont want to let the smoke out of it
[23:14] <kookie> lol
[23:14] <pyroxide> https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/#powerReqs
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[23:14] <pyroxide> " The Raspberry Pi model B+ and 2B can supply 600mA/1.2A to downstream USB peripherals, switchable by a firmware setting."
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[23:15] <UncleKiwi> mmm i have had to use a usb hub in the past
[23:15] <UncleKiwi> Active usb hub
[23:15] <pyroxide> so there you have it. you probably need to modify your config.txt
[23:15] <UncleKiwi> mmm yeah been there done that in the past
[23:15] <no-se> hellos…. what's up with root in rpbi?
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[23:16] <UncleKiwi> i guess I need to find out how much power it really is using
[23:16] <no-se> it is root disabled?
[23:16] <no-se> i mean, "pi" works,
[23:17] <ppq> no-se, just set a valid password for root
[23:17] <ShorTie> gotta make a passwd to login as root
[23:17] <no-se> but what's the passwd for 'root'?
[23:17] <pyroxide> password
[23:17] <ShorTie> is none
[23:17] <no-se> ah!
[23:17] <no-se> lemme try, brb
[23:18] <methuzla> no-se root is disabled
[23:18] <deshipu> there is no password for root, use sudo from the pi user
[23:18] <no-se> "su: Authentication failure"
[23:18] <deshipu> sudo, not su
[23:19] <computix> shiftplusone: I got me a new raspi, and this one works like a charm. Hmmmm. In the future I won't unplug and replug it without waiting for at least 5 seconds.
[23:19] <pyroxide> computix; you shoudl always sudo shutdown -h now before unplugging
[23:19] <pyroxide> wait until the green light flashes 10 times.
[23:19] <no-se> methuzla: i see, thx. deshipu: yes that had worked. but i was wondering why i couldn't swap to root to set my passwd.
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[23:20] <ppq> because by default the root password is invalid
[23:20] <ppq> you need to set another to be able to use su
[23:20] <computix> pyroxide: Thx for the advice.
[23:20] <ppq> however, there's no reason to do that
[23:20] <ppq> just use sudo -i
[23:21] <UncleKiwi> what does this mean regarding the usb power output of RPIv2 600mA/1.2A (switchable)
[23:21] <UncleKiwi> the switchable bit ?
[23:21] <ppq> it will give you the same "root@host:~#" shell
[23:21] <no-se> if someone would ask me if it is confusing, i would say, yes it is -c o n f u s i n g
[23:21] <deshipu> nah, it's standard on debian-based systems
[23:22] <pyroxide> t3chguy; must be my isp. tried dmz.
[23:22] <ppq> only for ubuntu actually
[23:22] <t3chguy> UncleKiwi: its in config.txt
[23:22] <no-se> not to have a 'root' account is standard?
[23:22] <t3chguy> no-se: it is standard yes
[23:22] <t3chguy> it exists just has no password set yet
[23:22] <t3chguy> you can do
[23:22] <UncleKiwi> thanks t3chguy
[23:22] <t3chguy> sudo passwd
[23:22] <t3chguy> and set a password for it
[23:23] <no-se> well, i have set the passwd for the default account "pi"
[23:23] <no-se> i wanted to make sure that the 'root' also have been changed, from whatever it come on the fresh install (raspbian).
[23:23] <t3chguy> that doesn't affect the Root account...
[23:24] <t3chguy> no, changing the pi password, doesn't create a root password
[23:24] <no-se> t3chguy: that is why i am trying to change the 'root' password account also.
[23:24] <pyroxide> oh gad
[23:24] <methuzla> no-se don't worry about the root account
[23:24] <t3chguy> no-se: `sudo passwd` to change the root password
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[23:26] <no-se> oh finally! thanks! t3chguy
[23:26] <no-se> it works. now.
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[23:27] <no-se> thank you all!
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[23:30] <computergeek> I'm trying to install puppy linux Alpha 4 on my pi2 and its not booting, just a black screen. Anyone know how to fix this? I can give more detailed info.
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[23:32] <pyroxide> aha!
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[23:35] <pyroxide> http://24.255.237.244:8080/ works, so isp is blocking port 80 for some reason
[23:35] <CoJaBo> pyroxide: Some routers also block 80; rule that out first
[23:36] <pyroxide> already have, i used same method to forward port 80 to my pi
[23:36] <CoJaBo> ?
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[23:37] <pyroxide> using wan:8080 -> lan:80 forwarding now
[23:39] <pyroxide> http://www.cox.com/residential/support/internet/article.cox?articleId=cacf82f0-6407-11df-ccef-000000000000
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[23:47] <pyroxide> so how do i accept incoming port 80 and forward it to 8080 before it reaches my isp?
[23:48] <pyroxide> i dont want my isp to beat me again.
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[23:51] <Xark> pyroxide: Umm, if it gets to you (for you do do anything), too late. :)
[23:51] <Xark> pyroxide: Change your URL to have :8080 (so it never tries 80).
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[23:56] <pyroxide> so i've been defeated too many times this month already
[23:57] <pyroxide> need a project for my pi2
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