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IRC Log for 2016-01-31

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[0:05] <Oscarandjo> Hi I'm trying to get a script to turn the HDMI of my Raspberry pi On or Off, but this seems to be more complex than I thought. The monitor will turn off just fine but none of the commands I've tried will turn it back on.
[0:07] <Oscarandjo> Does anyone know what commends work properly? I'm using the model B
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[0:44] <Tenkawa> whats new all?
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[0:48] <Valduare> looking for a new project I can do with my pi-zero
[0:49] <Tenkawa> Valduare: heh lots of choices out there
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[0:49] <Tenkawa> soon as I can get 2-3 more of them I have a few ideas
[0:50] <Tenkawa> right now my one is acting mostly as a network kvm and compiler
[0:50] <Valduare> like what
[0:50] <Valduare> mine has ben compiling all day long
[0:50] <Tenkawa> distributed compiling, lighttpd webserver, maybe a mud server
[0:51] <Tenkawa> got a few thoughts
[0:51] <Tenkawa> just having a lot of fun is my goal currently
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[0:51] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: I will soon have 4 :3
[0:52] <t3chguy> 2 via Purchases from Pimoroni
[0:52] <t3chguy> 1 via a Won kit from Pimoroni
[0:52] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: awww... no fair heeehee
[0:52] <t3chguy> and 1 soon to come via PiMag
[0:52] <Valduare> got mine from Magpi
[0:52] <t3chguy> MagPi rather
[0:52] <t3chguy> too tired
[0:52] <Tenkawa> I keep watching trying to find in stock somewhere
[0:52] <Tenkawa> I keep missing my a few hours here and there
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[0:52] <Tenkawa> er by
[0:53] <t3chguy> PiHut is due to get some soon
[0:53] <Valduare> I found one on other side of the continent and had my sister pick it up for me heh
[0:53] <t3chguy> according to guys at Pimoroni
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[0:53] <Valduare> she shipped it to me at my work and everyone was jelous heh
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[0:53] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: what country?
[0:53] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: UK
[0:53] <Tenkawa> ahh I'm in the USA
[0:54] <Valduare> what state
[0:54] <Tenkawa> was tough getting the one I did time right
[0:54] <Tenkawa> Valduare: ohio
[0:54] <Tenkawa> had to order mine from the UK though
[0:55] <Valduare> barnes n noble carries magpi
[0:55] <Valduare> thats where I got mine
[0:55] <Tenkawa> oh really?
[0:55] <Tenkawa> hmmmm....
[0:55] <Tenkawa> that might be worth checking
[0:55] <Tenkawa> thanks for the info
[0:55] <Valduare> says right on magpi website :)
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[0:58] <Tenkawa> which date issue was that?
[0:58] <Tenkawa> they'll probably be all sold out here however I'm still going to check
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[1:02] <Valduare> 39
[1:02] <Valduare> they held mine for me
[1:02] <Valduare> dont be mean and buy all they have though :P
[1:03] <Tenkawa> i wont heheh
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[1:10] <Valduare> so this is kind of anoying
[1:10] <Valduare> I have bunch of old phones with tft displays
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[1:11] <Valduare> but everyone just says to go on adafruit and buy one there :P
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[1:11] <Valduare> kinda defeats the purpose dosnt it
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[1:14] <t3chguy> Valduare: phone display interfaces tend to be much too fast to bit bang
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[1:14] <Tenkawa> cheers all.. be back tomorrow
[1:14] <Tenkawa> thanks again for the info
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[1:14] <pksato> some old phone display have SPI interface.
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[1:16] <pksato> some info here http://www.module.ro/nokia_3510.html
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[1:16] <Valduare> one of the phones is an lg decoy
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[1:18] <pksato> open, find display code and search.
[1:18] <abnormal> ewww that link is fulla ads...
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[1:21] <t3chguy> pksato: thats not TFT
[1:22] <pksato> not all.
[1:22] <t3chguy> didn't scroll down actually
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[1:22] <t3chguy> oh god
[1:22] <t3chguy> theres even 2 pages
[1:22] <Captonjamason> Hey, having some problem's with my Rpi2 running Raspbian Wheezy, im not sure if this is a hardware or raspbian error but my ethernet is not working, i tried it with Jessie but still didnt do anything, i am attempting to run it in headless mode and the ethernet does work, im right now checking to see if it might be hardware
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[1:55] <ali1234> okay who has a Pi hooked via composite to an NTSC TV that does close captioning and wants to test something?
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[2:28] <ali1234> nobody?
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[2:34] <Valduare> what are you doing with closed captions
[2:35] <ali1234> generating them
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[3:04] <Valduare> gha still compiling lol
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[3:10] <Tenkawa> Anyone know if theres a working kernel config for 4.5-rc1 kernel on pi zero yet?
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[3:53] <Valduare> hows it going tonight guys
[3:54] <ozzzy> can't moan... you?
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[3:56] <sir_galahad_ad> blleh
[3:57] <exonormal> olleh
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[4:00] <rancereya> is it okay to ask about NOOBS here?
[4:00] <exonormal> yyes
[4:01] <Valduare> my pizero is still compiling
[4:01] <exonormal> ask away
[4:01] <Valduare> thinking of just canceling the job haha
[4:01] <exonormal> my pizero is still sleeping
[4:01] <rancereya> I was wondering if anyone knew a way to make NOOBS use/recognize my wifi stick?
[4:01] <rancereya> it came in the canakit and I can get the specific stuff if need be
[4:02] <Valduare> rancereya: NOOBS only works with ethernet
[4:03] <rancereya> a shame
[4:03] <exonormal> no
[4:03] <exonormal> depends on which OS you install
[4:03] <[Saint]> In what world does NOOBS only work with Eth?
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[4:03] <[Saint]> Not this one.
[4:03] <Valduare> the internet told me
[4:04] <exonormal> NOOBS has a bunch of distros in it and you choose which one you install
[4:04] <Valduare> because it wouldnt work with the 4 wifi dongles I had
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[4:04] <rancereya> I want to install openelec via NOOBS but it wont be able to happen if it can only use ethernet
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[4:05] <exonormal> so, for example, you install Raspbian then the kernel will find the wifi dongle
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[4:06] <exonormal> install openelec and reboot then see if kernel will find the wifi dongle
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[4:07] <exonormal> then if it does not find it come back in here and we will work with you to make it work
[4:07] <rancereya> so install raspbian and then openelec over it?
[4:07] <exonormal> no
[4:07] <exonormal> one or the other
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[4:07] <exonormal> if you want openelec, install that
[4:07] <exonormal> reboot
[4:08] <exonormal> then see if it connects to wifi
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[4:08] <rancereya> I can't install open elec because noobs has no network
[4:09] <exonormal> ok, [Saint], what you suggest?
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[4:10] <rancereya> whoops
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[4:13] <rancereya> I suppose I'm just going to have to forgoe NOOBS it seems
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[4:15] <Valduare> by Joe Schmoe » Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:17 pm
[4:15] <Valduare> First, NOOBS doesn't support WiFi - only wired
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[4:19] <[Saint]> I...I thought NOOBS had a rescue console that could expose wpa-supplicant?
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[4:20] <exonormal> well, we can investigate it
[4:20] <[Saint]> The other option would be "Don't use NOOBS Lite" I guess?
[4:21] <exonormal> correct..
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[4:21] <exonormal> only the genuine NOOBS
[4:21] <[Saint]> Well, they're both genuine.
[4:21] <[Saint]> One is just netinst only.
[4:22] <Valduare> if it does indeed work with wifi then whoever is responsible for the ui and error messages needs to revisit it.
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[4:27] <exonormal> I see.. ok
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[4:29] <exonormal> so the NOOBS lite boots the pi and gets online and then the operator decides which OS to install and the NOOBS lite connects to repository and downloads the OS and installs it....
[4:30] <exonormal> is that what NOOBS lite is suppose to do???
[4:30] <Encapsulation> I need to drive two bipolar 24v steppers with one arduino, and still have the pins free for NRF24l01 2.4ghz tranceiver module
[4:30] * Encapsulation rips out hair
[4:33] <exonormal> oh well, whoever it was left
[4:34] <ozzzy> Encapsulation, so get something that uses I2C
[4:34] <ozzzy> I think I have an Adafruit shield that'll drive 2 steppers
[4:34] <Encapsulation> yes I saw that
[4:34] <Encapsulation> and got excited
[4:34] <Encapsulation> even thought I had bought the v1 by accident
[4:34] <Encapsulation> but then I looked closely
[4:34] <ozzzy> how many pins do you need for the transceiver
[4:34] <Encapsulation> it seems as though it cant handle 24v motors
[4:34] <Encapsulation> all the SPI pins
[4:34] <Encapsulation> and one gpio
[4:35] <Encapsulation> 5 pins total
[4:35] <ozzzy> so two steppers uses 8 pins
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[4:35] <ozzzy> add 5 and you have 13
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[4:43] * sir_galahad_ad has been wasting his life
[4:43] <ozzzy> no you haven't
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[4:45] <sir_galahad_ad> :P
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[4:45] <Encapsulation> hmm
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[4:54] <Encapsulation> dammit
[4:54] <sir_galahad_ad> ?
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[5:08] <Encapsulation> best solution I've heard so far is to use another arduino
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[5:16] <sir_galahad_ad> what are you trying to do?
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[5:17] <Encapsulation> for the least cost and complexity
[5:17] <sir_galahad_ad> you're having a shortage of pins?
[5:18] <Encapsulation> drive two 24v bipolar stepper motors and connect to one NRF24l01 2.4 ghz tranceiver module which uses SPI
[5:18] <Encapsulation> the v1 adafruit shield clone I have seems to be using thepins I need
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[5:18] <Encapsulation> and other options I can find either don't support 24v or use my spi
[5:19] <sir_galahad_ad> are these all output pins that you need?
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[5:20] <sir_galahad_ad> because you can drive a shift register with 3 pins, but the shift register has an 8 pin output, so you could chain them
[5:20] <sir_galahad_ad> unless you need more spi pins i can't help with that :P
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[5:22] <Encapsulation> I don't understand anything you just said
[5:22] <Encapsulation> I think I need to do more research on the topic
[5:22] <sir_galahad_ad> do you just need more general output pins?
[5:22] <Encapsulation> I just need to drive the two steppers and also use the rf module
[5:23] <Encapsulation> ideally with just the one arduino
[5:23] <Encapsulation> someone was saying use a 2nd arduino
[5:23] <Encapsulation> seems like a waste
[5:23] * sir_galahad_ad doesn't know anything about the 'duinos
[5:23] <Encapsulation> all of these arduinos will link up with the raspberry pi
[5:23] <Encapsulation> via these rf modules
[5:23] <Encapsulation> and the pi will connect to the world
[5:24] <sir_galahad_ad> ah
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[5:28] * Encapsulation weeps
[5:29] <sir_galahad_ad> i'd like to help you Encapsulation but i really don't have enough knowledge about electronics and the components that are available to be much use
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[5:30] <Encapsulation> I understand
[5:30] <sir_galahad_ad> although i do have a copy of Electonic Gadgets for the Evil Genius...maybe I can make a pi powered EMP generator
[5:30] <Encapsulation> haha
[5:30] <Encapsulation> wow
[5:30] <Valduare> rf moduless xbee ?
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[5:30] <Encapsulation> that would be incredible
[5:30] <Encapsulation> Valduare, NRF24l01
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[5:32] <Valduare> interesting
[5:33] <Valduare> I have some xbee got up to 7.3 miles away with very less than idea setup deff think I could get the full range
[5:33] <Encapsulation> wow
[5:33] <Valduare> if I set up a proper antenna etc
[5:33] <Encapsulation> I thought about those
[5:33] <Encapsulation> more than I need for this
[5:33] <Encapsulation> but that is impressive range
[5:33] <Valduare> they have rx tx direct to gpio
[5:33] <Encapsulation> that's hott
[5:33] <Encapsulation> expensive though, no?
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[5:33] <Valduare> not really
[5:34] <Encapsulation> looked like 100 dollars vs 5
[5:34] <Encapsulation> maybe I saw the wrong version
[5:34] <Valduare> espectially when you consider off the shelf components letting you reach MILES!
[5:34] <Encapsulation> impressive
[5:34] <Encapsulation> I will buy one eventually
[5:34] <Valduare> need 2
[5:37] <Encapsulation> I'll buy 4 then
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[6:10] <[Saint]> Encapsulation: you want to logic shit 3V<->24V, or just 3V->24V, or 3V<-24V?
[6:10] <[Saint]> Errr....shift.
[6:10] <[Saint]> SHIFT!
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[6:10] <[Saint]> octocouplers and external pullup?
[6:11] <Encapsulation> I just need to drive two bipolar steppers and one 2.4ghz NRF24l01 from one arduino
[6:11] * [Saint] understands he may be talking gibberish for all Encapsulation cars.
[6:11] <[Saint]> *cares
[6:11] <[Saint]> Dammit, can't type today.
[6:11] <[Saint]> Encapsulation: why do you need to include the arduino, is my point?
[6:11] <[Saint]> Is it solely for logic shifting?
[6:12] <[Saint]> There's a buttload of non-'duino solutions for logic shifting. But I guess if you already have one...
[6:13] <Encapsulation> oh
[6:13] <Encapsulation> no
[6:13] <Encapsulation> I decided to separate my system into modules
[6:13] <Encapsulation> one microcontroller in each enclosure
[6:14] <Encapsulation> the arduinos all link up to the central pi controller via the NRF24l01 2.4ghz modules
[6:14] <Encapsulation> 7 enclosures total
[6:14] <[Saint]> Ah. I thought you just wanted to drive 24V logic with against the Pi's 3.3V logic
[6:14] <[Saint]> I see.
[6:14] <[Saint]> I was going to suggest ULN2803, for instance, which are cheap as...chips? Pi?
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[6:16] <[Saint]> But, I see now - that complicates things less than slightly.
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[6:17] <[Saint]> If you already have the 'duinos, then by all means use 'em, but I like to employ cheap solutions. Not the various 'duino clones are necessarily expensive.
[6:18] <[Saint]> If you're slightly disingenuous, most places would supply a small tray of ICs as a "test" for the promise of a bulk order.
[6:18] <[Saint]> s/slightly/very/.
[6:19] <Encapsulation> I do have the arduinos now
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[6:19] <Encapsulation> I already b ought two unos 10 nanos two v1 adafruit motor shields
[6:19] <Encapsulation> and 2 pis
[6:19] <[Saint]> eeek.
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[6:20] <Encapsulation> then I realized my problem when I went to wire up the shield and the rf board
[6:20] <[Saint]> ahh well, you can always tear it apart later and build a bunch more stuff.
[6:20] <[Saint]> beauty of hindsight.
[6:20] <Encapsulation> yeah worst case I will put some stuff into the parts drawer for later
[6:20] <Encapsulation> I still need to solve the problem though
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[6:21] <Encapsulation> the entire project has become a little bit overwhelming but If I break it down one step at a time it should be achievable
[6:21] <Encapsulation> this should be the only major hurdle
[6:21] <Encapsulation> the other enclosures will use just some gpio or i2c
[6:21] <Encapsulation> so inside one enclosure is arduino, two steppers, and the RF module
[6:21] <Encapsulation> this will be the difficult one
[6:22] <Encapsulation> I'll buy something else if there is a solution
[6:22] <Encapsulation> what I'm seeing on ebay is either too low voltage or uses the SPI pins
[6:22] <Encapsulation> I could run my motors at 12v, but already ordered 24v supplies
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[6:23] <Encapsulation> I'm not sure what the difference would be honestly
[6:23] <Encapsulation> nema 17 42mm steppers
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[6:29] <[Saint]> I'm still not entirely convinced that you couldn't just drive all this from the pi itself with a bunch of optos.
[6:30] <[Saint]> 3.3<->24V is on the large side, but there's a few IC optos that go to 70V+
[6:30] <[Saint]> quite a few in fact.
[6:31] <[Saint]> around the $1~$2USD per-unit cost when purchased between 10 and 99 units.
[6:31] <Encapsulation> I would but the pi wont be there
[6:31] <[Saint]> Aha!
[6:31] <Encapsulation> the customer can purchase one of two kits, or add the modules separately
[6:32] <Encapsulation> they can also function in a stand-alone mode when not connected to the pi controller
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[7:28] <Lope> when is it going to be possible to buy a Pi Zero for $5?
[7:28] <Lope> (without all the extra accessories)
[7:28] <Encapsulation> 202
[7:28] <Encapsulation> 2020
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[8:09] <Lope> +1 this: Kickstarter to order a Raspberry Pi Zero right now https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=134618
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[8:11] <[Saint]> Yeah, that's gonna work.
[8:16] <Valduare> a pi and a microcontroller are two very different things
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[8:19] <[Saint]> But it's small, and you can control things with it!
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[8:46] <hafer> Whats up
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[9:01] <hafer> if I (accidentally) connect an GPIO ouput to another GPIO output and set one low and one high, what will happen?
[9:01] <hafer> On the raspi of course
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[9:36] <swift110-phone> Hey
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[9:45] <Cormite> Hi guys, I would like to use my Raspi 2B as a filtering device at home (firewall, filtering adult content for kids, etc.) I would like to receive from the community some suggestion to get a second ethernet port to include. Do you have any ideas? Thanks!
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[9:46] <JK-47> a usb 100mb dongle. and dansguardian
[9:46] <JK-47> and opendns's family safe dns filter
[9:46] <Cormite> Hi JK-47 . Thanks for your super quick response
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[9:47] <Cormite> opendns would be sufficient?
[9:47] <JK-47> i dont think dansguardian has been updated in a while though...
[9:48] <Cormite> I was thinking more in something more soffiticated like squid
[9:48] <JK-47> well dg would search within pages and all
[9:48] <JK-47> dns only blocks known bad sites
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[9:51] <ShorTie> are only the kids gonna be hooked up to it ??
[9:51] <Cormite> the usb dongle seems like a great idea, that was the part where I was strugling to most because I am new to Raspi and I did not know if a USB would be such the preferred solution or maybe there was a device bades on GPio I did not know and was better.
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[9:51] <ShorTie> because pi's are not known for net trafficing because all goes thru the usb
[9:51] <JK-47> 90% of what youll use are usb based.
[9:52] <Cormite> On the other hand, I never thought about DNS .. I was going more in to the direction of OpenWRT and have Iptables Llayer 7 to block protocols (torrents, etc.) and set rules in Squid to filter un wanted content
[9:53] <ShorTie> ?me Thinkz, maybe, but 90% don't have a sdcard hung off it for the file system
[9:53] <Cormite> The schema would be something like ROUTER <--> Raspi <--> distribution switch <--> APs, ethernet on wall
[9:53] <Cormite> everybody passses throught the raspi for filtering
[9:54] <ShorTie> why can't you do it with the router you have ??
[9:54] <Cormite> yes you are right I will add an external disk to it or maybe mount a NFS volume (still to be decided)
[9:55] <ShorTie> pi is gonna be a bottle neck
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[9:56] <Cormite> :) well, the router from my provides is not a great one and I already have a Raspi ... In the end this is a little project and if it does not work I would probably buy a router
[9:56] <Cormite> but I want to play with my Raspi and if it works.... great!
[9:57] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
[9:57] <ShorTie> fair enough
[9:58] <Cormite> guys, seriously, thank you very much for such quick answers. I really appreciate it.
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[10:01] <Jidoor> any ideas if this should work on raspberry pi 2, https://github.com/mitghi/phantomjs-2.0.0-armv7
[10:02] <Jidoor> or anyone has experience with phantomjs on raspberry, it seems there are no official binaries and the compile would be tricky and take a long time
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[10:03] <Jidoor> i mean i cloned that repo but getting -bash: phantomjs: command not found when i try to run the binary
[10:03] <Jidoor> i guess that means its wrong architechture or something?
[10:03] <mlelstv> probably
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[10:04] <ShorTie> is it exacutable and your putting a ./ in front of it ??
[10:05] <Jidoor> wow that worked ShorTie
[10:05] <Jidoor> why
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[10:06] <mlelstv> you don't have . in PATH (which is a good thing)
[10:06] <ShorTie> normal way to run stuff in linux
[10:06] <Jidoor> i got that same error with the armv6 builds i first tried and that was after having made a link to path
[10:06] <ShorTie> actually, ./ means l00k in the current directory
[10:07] <Jidoor> ill try link this to path and see if it works plain
[10:07] <ShorTie> you could move it over to /usr/bin and all will be ok I do believe
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[10:08] <kevireilly> as long as it is in `echo $PATH`
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[10:10] <ShorTie> true, but i think it is by like default on all
[10:10] <Jidoor> whats the difference between putting it to /bin/phantomjs vs /usr/bin/phantomjs
[10:10] <Jidoor> assuming the first is for all users
[10:11] <ShorTie> nothing, but your stuff normall goes in /usr...
[10:11] <Jidoor> yea this guide i was following put it to /bin/phantomjs
[10:11] <NicoHood> has anyone here used asterisk with the raspi? i try to call them via voip inside a local network, anyone that may help?
[10:11] <Jidoor> https://quaintproject.wordpress.com/2015/04/26/how-to-install-casperjs-on-the-raspberry-pi/
[10:12] <kevireilly> ShorTie: true, sorry, just meant to imply that anywhere listed in $PATH (and that you could technically add a new directory if you wanted)
[10:13] <Jidoor> ok did this which worked, sudo ln -sf `pwd`/phantomjs /usr/bin/phantomjs
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[10:28] <ShorTie> that is like a logic copy
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[10:39] <gordonDrogon> it's a symbolic link... as opposed to a hard link.
[10:39] <gordonDrogon> you would typically create a ~/bin directory and place the executable in there.
[10:41] <ShorTie> isn't CXX used to set g++ ?? like CXX="g++-4.8"
[10:42] <gordonDrogon> no idea. I've never seen it.
[10:43] <NicoHood> ShorTie anything you still want to chat about?
[10:45] <ShorTie> did you see that json file for arm ??
[10:45] <NicoHood> yeah it does not work for me
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[10:45] <ShorTie> oh, me niether
[10:45] <ShorTie> Laughs Out Loud
[10:46] <NicoHood> the skipping of the signature fails
[10:46] <NicoHood> i wrote a comment
[10:46] <NicoHood> you need to delete the file in .arduino15
[10:46] <ShorTie> not having much luck compiling gcc-arm-none-eabi
[10:47] <NicoHood> but renaming it to test doesnt work for me. and i didnt try much to fix it. they should just sign it properly
[10:47] <ShorTie> did you rename it ??
[10:47] <NicoHood> yeah test_package_index.json
[10:47] <ShorTie> don't think it needs signed because it's extra
[10:48] <NicoHood> i just try to compile avr-gcc 5.3 with the most up to date tools etc. so i can code avr via makefile finally
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[10:49] <ShorTie> I think my gcc-arm-none-eabi compile problems are gcc-4.9 related, so trying to do it with gcc-4.8 which your suppose to be able to do with CC="gcc-4.8"
[10:49] <ShorTie> but wondering about g++
[10:50] <NicoHood> i have no idea. i compiled on the raspi itself
[10:50] <NicoHood> and crosscompiling works fine like that if the binaries are pulled in
[10:51] <NicoHood> but you might be talking about the compiler for ARM microcontrollers?
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[10:51] <ShorTie> oh this is for bossac, so your not messing with it I don't think
[10:51] <NicoHood> no i only code for avr
[10:51] <NicoHood> never used anything else (except the esp)
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[10:51] <heller_> anyone know a small easy to use display for RPI?
[10:51] <heller_> by small i mean smaller than the Pi itself
[10:52] <NicoHood> 16x2 displays
[10:52] <ShorTie> smaller then the zero ??
[10:52] <mlelstv> 1x1 pixel ? :)
[10:52] <NicoHood> liquid crystal
[10:52] <heller_> NicoHood: one with i2c?
[10:52] <heller_> 16x2 is easy to use, but are not fairly small
[10:52] <NicoHood> you can use an adapter for 1$
[10:52] <heller_> the i2c ones?
[10:52] <NicoHood> well. not sure what would be smaller
[10:52] * mlelstv still has to write a driver for the pitft
[10:52] <NicoHood> 16x2 i2c adapter, sure
[10:53] <heller_> i even have them
[10:54] <heller_> hmm i might even try it
[10:54] <heller_> thanks
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[11:03] <gordonDrogon> heller_, the pimoroni scroll phat...
[11:03] <gordonDrogon> heller_, same size as a zero
[11:03] <gordonDrogon> heller_, 11 x 5 .... pixels :)
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[11:15] <heller_> hah :)
[11:15] <heller_> well i'd like an LCD to show text "ON" or "OFF" depending on an output state and two temperatures
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[11:17] <mlelstv> that's 2 pixels :)
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[11:20] <agopo> Hi, dpkg --get-selection spits out a couple of entries that are marked as "deinstall". Why do these entries persist in that list? Do they mean the packages are meant to be deinstalled or is it more like a log, saying that I have deinstalled them?
[11:21] <Xark> mlelstv: Or one pixel in two states. :)
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[11:24] <mlelstv> agopo, it says the packages are installed but marked for deletion.
[11:24] <ScrumpyJack> is the scroll phat good for text? 5 pixels high seems a bit short
[11:24] <t3chguy> ScrumpyJack: its not bad, readable
[11:24] <mlelstv> 5 is barely good enough for numbers.
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[11:25] <t3chguy> ScrumpyJack: see gordonDrogon's font http://unicorn.drogon.net/scrollPhatFont.h
[11:25] <mlelstv> but On/Off is possible.
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[11:35] <agopo> mlelstv: And when will they be deleted? I thought I did it with sudo apt remove [packetname]
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[11:41] <mlelstv> agopo, apparently the removal didn't take place yet. Maybe there is a dependency for these packets ?
[11:41] <mlelstv> in that case the packages will be deleted when they are no longer needed by another packet
[11:42] <mlelstv> or you could try to remove them now, maybe the dependency is already gone
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[11:43] <agopo> mlelstv: How would I do that? My intention was to remove them when I typed sudo apt remove packetname
[11:44] <mlelstv> try 'apt remove' again
[11:44] <mlelstv> if it is still there, there must be some dependency (or some error you should see).
[11:46] <mlelstv> there is also 'apt-cache rdepends packetname' to list the dependencies.
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[11:52] <agopo> mlelstv: Thanks, I'll give that a go
[11:53] <gordonDrogon> on/off is just 1 pixel - on or off...
[11:53] <gordonDrogon> :)
[11:53] <mlelstv> yes, but what color is it? :)
[11:54] <gordonDrogon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqKQzm8Ob7M
[11:54] <gordonDrogon> that's the scroll phat working with the original font I did - I've since done a newer one that's variable width.
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[11:54] <gordonDrogon> (so it looks a bit nicer)
[11:55] <ali1234> i made 2x5 numbers because who wants to wait 20 seconds to find out what time it is?
[11:55] <ali1234> but it looked awful so i just made a 15x7 led matrix instead
[11:56] <giddles> hmm
[11:56] <giddles> did someone overclocked the rpi outside the sudo raspi-conf preconfiguration?
[12:01] <Mikelevel> giddles~ yes , in /boot/config.txt
[12:02] <giddles> ah thx
[12:02] <Mikelevel> giddles~ http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#Tested_values
[12:02] <agopo> mlelstv: Almighty google search spit out the solution. Problem was I removed the packages and didn't purge. Result: Configuration files remained. That's why dpkg listed them as "deinstall".
[12:03] <mlelstv> ah. didn't know that.
[12:03] <agopo> mlelstv: This line solved the problem: dpkg --get-selections | grep deinstall | cut f1 | xargs dpkg -P
[12:04] <agopo> mlelstv: Beware the "cut f1" part, it could be "cut fl", too
[12:04] <agopo> nevermind, it's a one "1"
[12:05] <agopo> Cheers for replying anyway :)
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[13:57] <ScrumpyJack> can anyone recommend a book on getting started with electronics?
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[13:57] * gordonDrogon ponders.
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> I really don't know. I started with the early electronics magazines of the 1970's and a few thin paperback books.
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> and a good friend.
[13:58] <mgottschlag> *the* electronics bible usually is The Art of Electronics, but I don't know how good the introduction chapters are
[13:58] <mgottschlag> I know that at least those explanations which I have read were excellent
[13:58] <mgottschlag> but it's really expensive
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[13:58] <ScrumpyJack> i'll check
[13:59] <mgottschlag> before you buy it, check whether you can find sample chapters on the internet to see whether it's what you are looking for
[14:00] <mgottschlag> I guess it's not necessarily what you are looking for though
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> I sometimes wonder if there is something just basic that explains it without the heavy duty maths and theory - which you can do alter.
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> although it's fairly easy to join the dots on a breadboard in a simplistic sort of way.
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> and these days with 'breakout board', etc. it almost is a case of join the dots...
[14:04] <mgottschlag> what I think is really important is a list of basic building blocks
[14:04] <mgottschlag> e.g. a list of basic opamp configurations
[14:04] <mgottschlag> I found The Art of Electronics to be pretty good in that regard so far
[14:05] <gordonDrogon> saldly, I suspect your average 'arduino generation' don't have a clue about op amps...
[14:06] <mgottschlag> yeah, that might be right
[14:06] <mgottschlag> but they might want to switch a load with a mosfet :)
[14:06] <gordonDrogon> indeed!
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[14:06] <mgottschlag> similar thing, lots of ways do to it depending on the mosfet
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[14:07] <gordonDrogon> or they just buy a plug in motor driver shield..., etc.
[14:08] <ScrumpyJack> gordonDrogon: I've been meaning to ask, do you have your own levain that you feed for baking?
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[14:08] <gordonDrogon> ScrumpyJack, Yes. I have 3 different ones - wheat, spelt and rye.
[14:08] <ScrumpyJack> how long have you had them?
[14:09] <gordonDrogon> well... the wheat about 5-6 years. the spelt was started from the wheat. I've had the Rye about 2.5 years but I got it from someone who'd had it for 8 years and they got it from someone who'd had it for about 18 years...
[14:09] <gordonDrogon> I don't think age (after a month or so) makes any difference though. Triggers broom and all that.
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[14:11] <ScrumpyJack> the age thing is just cool. some levain in France where I come from has been around for centuries, if we are to beleive the myths
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[14:12] <ScrumpyJack> passed down in families and all that
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[14:12] <gordonDrogon> its not impossible, but does it make it any better? hard to know. It's a good story to tell though.
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> will be making some up tomorrow for tuesdays bake.
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[14:16] <gordonDrogon> I don't believe in any form of mystique or special process to make my sourdough breads. it's just a simple process without fuss, but some people seem to want to make a big deal of it all.
[14:16] <gordonDrogon> but I've developed a technique that works for me well enough to make 40-50 loaves a day with it.
[14:17] <ali1234> i've never needed to use an opamp directly
[14:17] <ali1234> closest i ever got is using an lm386
[14:18] <gordonDrogon> ScrumpyJack, some words & pictures :) http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/44111/easy-sourdough-part-1
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[14:21] <gordonDrogon> using op-amps and even transistors is, I suspect rare for most sort of hobby projects these days - especially the adafruit type of things I guess. Some people will want to do something a bit more special though - they're the ones most likely to do (or have done!) E&EE degree type courses. (I did computing but then worked in an industrual engineering lab where we designed & built all sorts of weird stuff - 25-30 years back, so there were
[14:21] <gordonDrogon> no breakout boards back then)
[14:22] <ali1234> back then we didn't need breakout boards because there was not tssssswtfop packages
[14:22] <gordonDrogon> well - there was that too.
[14:23] <ali1234> i think it's down to the prevalence of microcontrollers really
[14:23] <gordonDrogon> and breadboards were really expensive too. I remember paying what seemed like a silly amount of money for my first one. Buying veroboard and cutting it up and soldering was much cheaper. I quickly got used to de-soldering and re-using bits of vero board...
[14:23] <ali1234> you barely need to touch analog stuff
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> yes - almost everything in one little DIL chip (or some sort of SMT package, already mounted on a board for you)
[14:24] <ali1234> yep, and if you need analog, just convert it to digital before doing anything with it
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[14:24] <gordonDrogon> I used wire-wrap for some work protptyping - e.g. http://unicorn.drogon.net/6502back.jpg & http://unicorn.drogon.net/6502front.jpg
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> I did built an analog computer once - I think Practical electronics had a design for one. I've no idea what happened to it - we moved houses a few times when I was a teenager.
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[14:28] <gordonDrogon> this was a few years before I was a teenager, but: https://archive.org/details/PracticalElectronics1968May
[14:30] <gordonDrogon> there's some fascinating old stuff there - just as (or before) ICs were stating to be used by hobbyists
[14:31] <gordonDrogon> most of it spun-off from ham radio, audio amplifier, type of stuff.
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[15:03] <Encapsulation> mems books?
[15:03] <Encapsulation> mims*
[15:04] <gordonDrogon> don'tk now them. just rememberd the ones I had from: http://babanibooks.com/
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[15:16] <Tenkawa> any of you use reflection for unix ssh client at all.?
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[15:21] <Tenkawa> bbl gotta run
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[15:23] <swift110-phone> Hey guys
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[15:33] <dreamon_> I have a few old raspberryPI images .. now bought a Pi2 Model B. can I use the same images or need a new one?
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[15:42] <gordonDrogon> dreamon_, you will need to update the kernel, bootloader first.
[15:42] <Encrypt> https://youtu.be/lyZQPjUT5B4?t=51s :D
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> a simple sudo apt-get update then upgrade should suffice.
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[15:43] <gordonDrogon> Encrypt, oh dear. )-:
[15:43] <Encrypt> Bubble Sort explained :D
[15:43] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, That's fun :D
[15:44] <gordonDrogon> should not be allowed.
[15:44] <Encrypt> And there are other videos explaining other sorting algorithms
[15:44] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, Eh :P
[15:44] <Encrypt> Good way to mix culture and computer science x)
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[15:45] <gordonDrogon> still - I once made a nice days work converting someones code from bubble sort (that they thought they had invented as a cool way to sort) into shell sort - which then ran about 1000 times faster for their case...
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[15:55] <dreamon_> Thanks ..
[15:56] <Encapsulation> rpi hosting a lamp stack for mysql hw =)
[15:59] <gordonDrogon> yes - it does that ok.
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[16:00] <gordonDrogon> remember to trim the binary log-file every now and then or you might run out of SD card space if it ever gets busy...
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[16:00] <Valduare> it does nginx much better
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[16:01] <Valduare> ive been running comparisons the last few days on a raspberry pi zero between apache and nginx
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[16:13] <Encapsulation> gordonDrogon, I've been trying to solve this problem for a few days now. I need to drive two bipolar stepper motors and one NRF24l01 2.4ghz rf transceiver with one arduino
[16:13] <Encapsulation> https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-motor-shield/faq
[16:13] <Encapsulation> it looks like the shields I bought will use my SPI pins though?
[16:13] <Encapsulation> by the way, the motors are 24v
[16:13] <Encapsulation> which adds to the complexity of the issue slightly
[16:13] <Encapsulation> their i2c version 2 of the shield doesnt support that voltage
[16:16] <Valduare> what is your project btw Encapsulation ?
[16:16] <Encapsulation> Valduare, 7 enclosures total. 4 with arduino nanos, two with arduino unos, and one with raspberry pi
[16:16] <Encapsulation> all connected via RF to the pi
[16:17] <Encapsulation> gpio control via sensor + db input
[16:17] <Valduare> yes i’ve heard that part :P
[16:17] <Valduare> what is the project
[16:18] <Encapsulation> home automation
[16:21] <azizLIGHT> Is it possible to use rpi as a printer? I want to email files to a specific email address that pi will get attachments from and then print to printer connected by USB
[16:22] <azizLIGHT> I have Google cloud print but it sucks, degrades the quality of the printing
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[16:23] <Valduare> azizLIGHT: yep
[16:24] <Valduare> look at cups driver
[16:24] <azizLIGHT> What about scanning files and emailing them back to me
[16:25] <azizLIGHT> Lastly, how about fax
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[16:28] <gordonDrogon> fax is so 1990's.
[16:28] <Valduare> do you mean fax2email or actual faxing
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[16:29] <gordonDrogon> if you have an old fashioned analog modem, then you can run hylafax and have that send faxes over the wibbly wobbly copper wires.
[16:30] <t3chguy> azizLIGHT: probably don't recommend running an smtp daemon on your pi, a lot of ISPs block port 25
[16:31] <t3chguy> but you could use some free mailbox + POP3/IMAP to have the Pi pull emails and print them out
[16:31] <gordonDrogon> the horrors of fetchmail, but its probably good enough.
[16:32] <Valduare> i dont think he meant running smtp on the pi
[16:32] <Valduare> just an email client that he can email and it’d print them out for him
[16:33] <t3chguy> or fetchmail, similar concept
[16:33] <t3chguy> yeah it'd definitely work
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[16:33] <t3chguy> I do just rely on any computer being on at home and Google Cloud Print kicking in
[16:33] <t3chguy> hmm
[16:33] <t3chguy> actually, Chrome on Pi could make an ideal Google Cloud Print client
[16:34] <dnano91> I installed Raspbian via NOOBS on my pi 2. how can i get drivers for an lcd touchscreen?
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[16:37] <t3chguy> actually, don't even need a computer alive, my Printer seems to be its own Google Cloud Print client
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[16:38] <ali1234> speaking of wibbly wobbly copper wires
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[16:38] <Valduare> few years back I developed a thermal printer system with reverse ssh tunnel so they could be setup remotely and receive print commands heh
[16:38] <ali1234> on the front of today's telegraph business section is an advert for virgin media fibre optic broadband... with a nice picture of some copper wire
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[16:39] <ali1234> actually the same picture is all over the website http://store.virginmedia.com/etc/designs/virgoBrowse/clean/projects/bowie/img/docsis-cable-1920.jpg
[16:40] <Valduare> that is an alien probe :P
[16:40] <ali1234> i don't even know what it is
[16:40] <t3chguy> lol ali1234
[16:40] <ali1234> i don't see how light can travel through it though
[16:40] <t3chguy> ali1234: maybe they're hinting that they're using magic haxxorz
[16:40] <ali1234> actually with a solid core that thick i don't see how the cable could even bend
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[16:43] <Mead> ali1234: that reminds me of southpark stick of truth when your character got abducted by aliens and you had to save randy
[16:43] <ali1234> t3chguy: the website actually talks about "magic cables" seriously
[16:43] <t3chguy> ali1234: Link plox
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[16:44] <ali1234> http://store.virginmedia.com/discover/broadband/ultrafast.html
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[16:44] <t3chguy> to be honest, Virgin are probably one of the best of the large ISPs, unfortunately no service in my area
[16:44] <t3chguy> stuck with TalkTalk's Fibre, which definitely is magic in the sense that I sometimes get latency of over 2 seconds
[16:44] <ali1234> they are certainly the fastest
[16:44] <ali1234> and talktalk are almost certainly the worst
[16:45] <t3chguy> yep
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[16:45] <Polymorphism> hi gordonDrogon
[16:45] <Polymorphism> if you responded, I missed it
[16:45] <Polymorphism> had to spin up a vps
[16:46] <Polymorphism> this is actually a better way to use irc anyway
[16:46] <Polymorphism> I should be thanking them
[16:46] <ali1234> don't irc from root
[16:46] <Polymorphism> its a throwaway vps
[16:47] <Polymorphism> let them do what they can
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[16:47] <Polymorphism> this is better than the cloak I think
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[16:48] <t3chguy> Polymorphism: whats the prob?
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[16:49] <Polymorphism> t3chguy: see encapsulations posts above before kline
[16:50] <Polymorphism> still struggling with the two steppers nrf24l01 one arduino issue
[16:50] <t3chguy> oh the wiring issue?
[16:50] <Polymorphism> yeah
[16:50] <Polymorphism> and the v2 shield I found that uses i2c
[16:50] <t3chguy> the one I tried to answer with SS yesterday
[16:50] <Polymorphism> doesnt support 24v motors
[16:50] <gordonDrogon> https://www.pololu.com/category/154/drv8825-stepper-motor-driver-carriers-high-current
[16:50] <gordonDrogon> those are what I've used in the past. Available from many places.
[16:51] <Polymorphism> gordonDrogon: those won't take up any of my SPI pins?
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[16:51] <t3chguy> Polymorphism: the pins you use are completely up to you on most of these devices
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[16:51] <gordonDrogon> they use whatever pins you decide to connect them to. At a minimum they need 2 pins per motor - direction and pulse.
[16:51] <warpie> sweet.. I like those
[16:51] <t3chguy> I'm imagining that the ones you already have sort of fit like an Arduino shield and don't give you control of which pins they use
[16:51] <Polymorphism> that sounds like just what I need
[16:52] <Polymorphism> yes the one I have is a shield
[16:52] <Polymorphism> goes onto the uno
[16:52] <t3chguy> you could always just rewire the ones you own
[16:52] <Polymorphism> and uses all of my spi pins
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[16:52] <t3chguy> and give up Shield form factor
[16:52] <Polymorphism> I'd rather just buy these new ones, they look better anyway
[16:52] <t3chguy> fair enough
[16:52] <t3chguy> or cut tracks :P
[16:52] <gordonDrogon> you do need an additional 100�F tank capacitor with those boards though.
[16:52] <Polymorphism> I may ship out the old ones to someone free if thats the route I go
[16:52] <Polymorphism> maybe someone can use them
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[16:53] <gordonDrogon> stuff to do elsewhere. back later.
[16:53] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: my font is screwy, is that a µ?
[16:53] <Polymorphism> gordonDrogon: thx for the tip, I'll look into those
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[16:53] <t3chguy> encoding rather*
[16:53] <Encrypt> s/elsewhere/in front of the oven
[16:53] <Polymorphism> I think its microfarad
[16:53] <Encrypt> :D
[16:53] <Encrypt> Don't lie! :P
[16:53] <t3chguy> so yeah, µ
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[16:53] <t3chguy> I need to fix ZNC, its transforming it into some unknown entity
[16:54] <Polymorphism> I see the same
[16:54] <Polymorphism> on irssi
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[16:57] <t3chguy> I see a weird question mark with a background when gordonDrogon said it, but see mu when I type it myself (damn you ZNC)
[16:57] <Polymorphism> I see the same thing
[16:58] <Polymorphism> μF
[16:58] <Polymorphism> if i paste it myself I see the weird symbol until I hit enter
[16:58] <Polymorphism> then it shows up fine in channel
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[16:58] <t3chguy> weird
[16:58] <t3chguy> I see a different mu when you type it
[16:58] <t3chguy> to the one I see when I type it
[16:58] <t3chguy> why does my font have two mu's xD
[16:58] <Polymorphism> that's strange
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[17:06] <Valduare> heh neat
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[17:08] <ali1234> t3chguy: probably because unicode has separate codepoints for the SI symbol and the greek letter
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[17:08] <Valduare> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaToIsBODTg
[17:09] <ali1234> t3chguy: i was close: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro-#Symbol_encoding_in_character_sets
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[17:13] <Valduare> did you guys see this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Wp9AfILYE cool idea
[17:14] <jancoow> but why would you do that
[17:14] <ali1234> terrible idea :/
[17:14] <Polymorphism> looks ghetto
[17:14] <jancoow> indeed..
[17:14] <ali1234> you can buy the micro adapters for 50p
[17:15] <Valduare> how is that terrible? he says at end of video that it gets you by while you are awaiting your otg cable to arrive
[17:15] <ali1234> apart from anything else it is almost impossible to buy a raspberry pi without the adapters
[17:15] <ali1234> *zero
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[17:16] <jancoow> it doesn't make sense at all
[17:16] <Polymorphism> what does rpi zero even do that an arduino or full size pi doesnt
[17:16] <Polymorphism> or the possible vaporware CHIP
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[17:16] <ali1234> if you are going to cut up wires and solder things together you might as well make an OTG cable
[17:16] <Polymorphism> ali1234: +1
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[17:17] <Valduare> making an otg cable requires sacrificing 2 cables , this method only sacrifices one
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[17:17] <ali1234> and just buying the zero with adapters sacrifices none
[17:17] <jancoow> and sacrifices a pizero
[17:17] <Polymorphism> 2 cables become 4 connectors
[17:17] <Valduare> i dunno I like this method, I did it myself before i got my usb hub
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[17:18] <Valduare> the magpi issue #40 pi zero does not come with adapters stuck on the magazine :P
[17:18] <ali1234> when you make your own OTG cable you have two male A plugs left, which you can connect together and use with your A+
[17:18] <jancoow> and besides that; everyone has a otg cable langing around
[17:18] <jancoow> laying*
[17:19] <Valduare> they do?
[17:19] <Valduare> I didnt lol
[17:19] <jancoow> you never buyed one for your phone?
[17:19] <jancoow> oh i need to correcpt my self, every android user :
[17:21] <Polymorphism> now I want an otg cable....
[17:21] <Polymorphism> this looks like it would let me program an arduino from my phone
[17:22] <Polymorphism> oh no its got the wrong end
[17:22] * Polymorphism weeps
[17:22] <Polymorphism> oh no wait
[17:22] <Polymorphism> no it doesnt
[17:22] <Polymorphism> this is perfect
[17:23] * Polymorphism heads down to best buy
[17:23] <Valduare> best buy didnt sell them last i looked here
[17:23] <Valduare> radio shack does
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[17:23] <Valduare> but 15 bucks
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[17:24] <Polymorphism> 8 dollars.... at bb
[17:24] <Polymorphism> too much
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[17:24] <Valduare> the 8 dollar one is order only at the bb here
[17:24] <Polymorphism> radio shack 15 is too much
[17:24] <Valduare> yep :)
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[17:24] <Polymorphism> 4 dollars amazon prime
[17:24] <Polymorphism> it will be here tomorrow
[17:24] <Polymorphism> =)
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[17:25] <jancoow> yes and you can plugin usb stick for example
[17:25] <jancoow> and your keyboard, mouse to your phone
[17:25] <jancoow> super awesome
[17:25] <Polymorphism> or .70 cents ebay....
[17:25] <Polymorphism> and wait 35 days
[17:25] <Polymorphism> decisions...
[17:25] <jancoow> dude, just drink 2 cups of coffee les this week and you have saved money for a otg cable lol
[17:25] <Polymorphism> xD
[17:26] <jancoow> that's how i buy things :D
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[17:26] <Valduare> I follow the mcChicken accounting practice
[17:26] <mgottschlag> Polymorphism: btw, http://i08fs1.atis-stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~s_gottsc/IMG_20150930_112931666_HDR.jpg <- if the pi zero had been released one year earlier, if would have gone into that project :)
[17:26] <mgottschlag> that's imho exactly what the pi 0 was made for
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[17:27] <Valduare> ie: how many mcchickens would I be able to eat if I didnt buy X item I dont really need
[17:27] <mgottschlag> and where the regular pi doesn't really work
[17:27] <Polymorphism> mgottschlag: what is that?
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[17:28] <ali1234> here's my scroll hat clock, and my own led matrix version: https://goo.gl/photos/XnAARUAr4FCcfRy96
[17:28] <mgottschlag> that's going to be a stereo audio system, 2x20W amplifier, wifi access, works as a USB soundcard and is controllable with a smartphone
[17:28] <mgottschlag> stilworking on the software though
[17:28] <mgottschlag> *still
[17:28] <Polymorphism> very cool
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[17:29] <jancoow> 2x20w isn't much
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[17:31] <mgottschlag> it is much more than what it sounds like
[17:31] <mgottschlag> I once turned my current music system up to the limit, and the power meter showed 14W
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[17:31] <mgottschlag> up from 8W when it was completely idle
[17:32] <mgottschlag> (and I never liten to such loud music)
[17:32] <mgottschlag> so I mostly went for linearity when I selected the amplifier
[17:34] <Polymorphism> my 59 bassman is 45 watts and I can't turn it up beyond 3 =D
[17:35] <Polymorphism> mgottschlag: what are you writing the software in
[17:35] <mgottschlag> not 100% sure yet
[17:36] <mgottschlag> I am currently using some C program on top of buildroot
[17:36] <mgottschlag> and off-the-shelf mpd and linux drivers for most stuff, the C program then coordinates those, saves/restores settings, manages the wifi etc
[17:37] <mgottschlag> but I am currently having frequent OOM crashes, so I am playing with Rust, maybe I'll try to write a small operating system
[17:37] <mgottschlag> (and treat the CPU as if it was a slightly bigger microcontroller)
[17:37] <Polymorphism> memory leak
[17:38] <mgottschlag> I am just too lazy to finally figure out what actually causes all those memory problems
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[17:38] <mgottschlag> it doesn't help that it is only 256MB RAM
[17:38] <mgottschlag> it is not my code, that's sure :/
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[17:39] <Polymorphism> mgottschlag: how are you sure of that
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[17:39] <mgottschlag> because most of my program just doesn't exist yet, and the parts which do do not allocate any memory
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[17:42] <t3chguy> ali1234: I finally wrote up a simple guide of how to setup Gadget Mode on the 0 without the custom Kernel tgz as Adafruit does it
[17:42] <mgottschlag> btw, anyone has experience with these ultra-cheap handhelt digital oscilloscopes?
[17:42] <Polymorphism> no but I want to know more
[17:43] <Polymorphism> tell me anything you find out mgottschlag
[17:43] <Polymorphism> I was worried the bandwidth might be inadequate
[17:43] <mgottschlag> just trying to find out whether I can get a cheap narrow-bandwidth DSO, or whether I have to pay 300€+ for a proper one :/
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[17:43] <mgottschlag> I mean, the basic question is, how much bandwidth do I need
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[17:44] <Polymorphism> mgottschlag: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221510268082
[17:45] <mgottschlag> heh. 277$ shipping :D
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[17:45] <mgottschlag> I don't want to know how they get to that number.
[17:45] <Polymorphism> lol
[17:45] <mgottschlag> hm, probably import taxes
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[17:46] <mgottschlag> but yeah, I was looking at chinese scopes with similar prices, Rigol scopes tend to be pretty expensive here
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[17:47] <mgottschlag> e.g. Hantek DSO5102P
[17:48] * Polymorphism takes a look
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[17:50] <Valduare> heh http://www.ebay.com/itm/DDS120-Pro-20MHz-PC-Based-USB-Digital-Storage-Portable-Oscilloscope-New-/281647879982?hash=item419385972e:g:Co8AAOSweW5VGlzg
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[17:53] <mgottschlag2> Valduare: I definately want a stand-alone device :)
[17:53] <mgottschlag2> it's just more convenient
[17:53] <Valduare> heh
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[17:54] <mgottschlag3> my IRC client keeps crashing :/
[17:54] <mgottschlag3> Valduare: also, your link talks about 50MHz sample rate
[17:54] <mgottschlag3> that's barely enough for 10MHz real bandwidth, and certainly not enough for 20MHz
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[18:03] <ScrumpyJack> can anyone recommend a good book on python?
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[18:07] <Valduare> youtube :)
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[18:10] <Bilby> ScrumpyJack: Sometimes I go to the local library for that sort of thing
[18:11] <Bilby> but the problem (especially for newer languages) is you have to ensure you’re getting a book for the right version of the language
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[18:11] <Encrypt> ScrumpyJack, I'd say an O'Reilly book
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[18:14] <Encrypt> Something like that probably: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920028154.do
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[18:16] <gordonDrogon> just taken my old tablet thing to bits. wonder what I can do with it.
[18:17] <gordonDrogon> it has a big flat battery - 4300mah @ 3.7v
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[18:17] <gordonDrogon> 95mm square by a few mm thick. too big to sit under a Pi...
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[18:32] <gordonDrogon> battery is glued to the display, so that's not coming off )-:
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[18:33] <t3chguy> hmm gordonDrogon you just gave me a thought
[18:33] <t3chguy> I have some IdeaTab Lenovo Intel Atom thing
[18:34] <t3chguy> could cut a chunk out of the back of the case
[18:34] <t3chguy> and make a PiZero portion
[18:35] <Valduare> 3d print a raised cover with a slide off lid cover for gpio and glue it to the hole you cut in the back
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[18:35] <t3chguy> not a bad idea Valduare
[18:36] <t3chguy> though this thing is so compact inside, I don't think I'd be able to use the screen for a Pi0
[18:36] <t3chguy> though...if I could install Linux on it
[18:36] <t3chguy> I could use g_ether and VNC
[18:36] <t3chguy> (Windows on it is slow as slow gets)
[18:36] <gordonDrogon> Hmm..
[18:36] <Valduare> thats what im saying since its compact, you just cut a rpi0 sized hole in the caseing
[18:36] <t3chguy> 3v7 6800mAh battery xD
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[18:37] <Valduare> then you 3d print a cover that would close up the hole but extended out to fit the pi0 in
[18:37] <gordonDrogon> well this old tablet is now in the bin - although I shouldn't really throw a lithium battery out - at least it wasn't charged.
[18:37] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: was the tablet dead or just useless?
[18:37] <gordonDrogon> it was an old resistive display and the covering glass had broken (as had the power socket)
[18:37] <t3chguy> ah
[18:38] <gordonDrogon> old and slow. it only cost me about 65 quid 3 years ago!
[18:38] <gordonDrogon> when it broke, I decided to go down the 'phablet' route, so haven't used it since.
[18:38] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: what phablet you on now?
[18:38] <t3chguy> I got this Lenovo tablet for free
[18:38] <gordonDrogon> nexus 6
[18:39] <t3chguy> ah neat
[18:39] <t3chguy> I want myself the Huawei Nexus 6P
[18:39] <t3chguy> but my OnePlus One still works, so can't justify it
[18:40] <t3chguy> Hmm, the discussion here points to inability to get Linux on this tablet :/ http://www.linlap.com/lenovo_ideatab_lynx_k3011
[18:40] <gordonDrogon> hm. tried again to get the battery off - I suspect bending it isn't a good thing.
[18:40] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: I had to bend my phablet's battery when I was taking it apart due to it being glued in so darn hard
[18:40] <t3chguy> it did lose a bit of capacity, but nothing serious
[18:41] <t3chguy> it did not feel good doing it
[18:41] <t3chguy> prying tools would have been useful
[18:41] <gordonDrogon> there is a little circuit board on it too.
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[18:43] <t3chguy> probably generic Lithium protection circuitry
[18:43] <t3chguy> so it doesn't go BANG
[18:43] <t3chguy> even this tablet's UEFI is sluggish...
[18:47] <t3chguy> o_O
[18:47] <t3chguy> this Tablet has USB OTG
[18:47] <t3chguy> wonder what Windows can utilise OTG for
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[18:47] <gordonDrogon> can't find my multimeter again. bother.
[18:48] <t3chguy> errr, this UEFI has a Boot Entry for "USB FDD" FDD being Floppy Disk Drive...
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[18:49] <t3chguy> or Floppy Diskette Drive, no idea
[18:51] <t3chguy> this thing has an "Internal Shell"
[18:51] <jancoow> someone an idea how to use the i2cdevlib in python?
[18:51] <t3chguy> which seems *nix like
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[18:53] <jancoow> or wel.. using c++ in python: i need https://github.com/richardghirst/PiBits/blob/master/MPU6050-Pi-Demo/MPU6050.cpp in python :)
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[18:56] <jancoow> well,, maybe its the best thing to port it myself
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[19:20] <madllama> hello
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[19:22] <madllama> i am considering to buy 3.5 touchscreen lcd,are the XPT2046 variant is good?
[19:22] <madllama> like the waveshare's clone
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[19:23] <Valduare> what are you going to use it for
[19:23] <madllama> i am planning to install retropie or lakka,is it good?
[19:24] <Valduare> hard to play duke nukem 3d on a 3.5 inch touchscreen :P
[19:25] <madllama> agree,but my budget is tight :(
[19:25] <madllama> cant escape the student's loan yet
[19:25] <wireddude> i bought one from adafruit and was able to get it to work on the command line
[19:25] <wireddude> PiTFT
[19:25] <wireddude> i learned how to solder really quickly...
[19:26] <Valduare> wish it was easier to use tft displays from old cellphoens etc
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[19:27] <madllama> so
[19:28] <madllama> LCD with SPI interface like XPT2046
[19:28] <madllama> good with retropie or lakka? well lakka is new,but i am fine with retropie
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[19:29] <madllama> i have read,it have some trouble on openelec,kodi,etc
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[19:33] <jancoow> 3,5 screen for 20 euros from china isn't much
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[20:30] <plm> Hi all
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[20:31] <Valduare> hi
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[20:37] <madllama> hi
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[20:38] <plm> Hi all
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[20:39] <plm> The opencv use just cpu or both, cpu and gpu on pi2?
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[20:52] <jancoow> hii
[20:54] <plm> Anyone?
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[21:47] <Vrooom> sad to say i gave up doing retropie
[21:48] <Valduare> why’s that
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[21:50] <Vrooom> i got it working but i cant never get 6 button gamepad working on it.
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[21:50] <Vrooom> it seem i need like 3 different gamepads to able to use it
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[21:51] <Valduare> or play less games :P
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[21:58] <rneco> hi
[21:59] <rneco> has anyone tried any hydrogen fuel cells?
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[22:04] <Berg> hi i looked at them and you need to wonder how much power they use
[22:04] <Berg> rneco:
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[22:05] <Berg> i spose there is lots of uses but in a car i think it may produce overworked altinator and battery and damage these parts
[22:06] <Berg> long term data is needed
[22:07] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
[22:08] <Berg> hi im Berg I been here before
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[22:08] <Berg> good morning planet
[22:09] <sir_galahad_ad> hello
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[22:13] <rneco> Berg: i was wondering about how could a fuel cell run without oxygen as i see that they're in use in submarines, do they just have oxygen tanks?
[22:13] <rneco> http://www.industry.siemens.com/verticals/global/en/marine/submarines/pgd/pem_fuel_cell/Pages/Default.aspx
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[22:14] <Berg> the splitting of water into hydrogen produce oxigen and hydrogen H2O
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[22:14] <Berg> rneco:
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[22:15] <sir_galahad_ad> electrolysis of water
[22:15] <Berg> yes
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[22:15] <rneco> yes but that requires power
[22:15] <Berg> yes
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[22:15] <rneco> i'm not sure what ratio you could achieve by feeding it back
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[22:16] <Berg> ratio of water is pre-set by H2O
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[22:17] <rneco> ratio of output power/power used to perform electrolysis and get the fuel back
[22:17] <sir_galahad_ad> rneco: it would be a losing proposition
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[22:18] <rneco> yeah...well :D
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[22:18] <sir_galahad_ad> but if you're talking about for subs they tend to have nuclear power :P
[22:18] <rneco> but some don't actually
[22:18] <sir_galahad_ad> or you could make a solar farm to power the electrolysis
[22:18] <rneco> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_212_submarine
[22:19] <Berg> its always a losing event But if you produce and store hydrogen while surface running you have a dual purpose for the generators
[22:19] <Berg> (AIP) system using Siemens proton exchange membrane (PEM) compressed hydrogen fuel cells.
[22:19] <jancoow> ugh, 3d maths driving me crazyyyy
[22:19] <rneco> my doubt was more about whether you're forced to have a O2 tank as well as an H2 tank but i think you should have both
[22:19] <Berg> they are storingf hydrogen
[22:20] <Berg> you would need them rneco
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[22:20] <rneco> cheers
[22:21] <Berg> hydrogen = power, by-product = water
[22:21] <rneco> yes
[22:21] <Berg> hydrogen and oxygen is needed
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[22:21] <rneco> i was curious to check them out and see if i could power an rc submarine and do as you said, make it stay on the surface for a while in order to split h2/o2 to refuel
[22:22] <Berg> anyway storing hydrogen is a dangerous event you neeed a perfect system to seperate the oxygen and hydrogen
[22:22] <Berg> if you make a error the result == BOOM
[22:22] <rneco> yep...
[22:23] <sir_galahad_ad> rneco: spliting h2/o2 is done most efficiently with an added electrolyte int the water
[22:23] <Berg> still it would be fun to see a rc explode
[22:23] <Berg> thats always fun
[22:23] <rneco> they'll take me for a meth addict
[22:23] <rneco> haha sure underwater maybe better
[22:23] <Berg> heavy water is not the desired result
[22:23] <Berg> iran has heavy water
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[22:23] <Berg> :)
[22:24] <rneco> lol
[22:24] <Berg> how big is your RC sub rneco
[22:25] <jancoow> i can't wait for the formic acid cars!
[22:25] <rneco> it's just an idea, i'm going to check out the feasibility first
[22:25] <Berg> heheheh ok
[22:25] <jancoow> they are promissing to be better then hydrogen and electric cars :)
[22:25] <rneco> but i guess it should be around 1mt long x 20-30 cm diameter or something like that
[22:26] <Berg> remember to wear sunblock large blasts produce a mushroom cloud and a bright light
[22:26] <rneco> yeah if the hydrogen thing doesn't go well i could as well check out some homebrew reactor
[22:26] <Berg> sure
[22:27] <rneco> no big deal :D
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[22:27] <rneco> formic acid?
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[22:27] <Berg> well good luck in your endeavour
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[22:27] <rneco> thanks!
[22:27] <Berg> who said raspberrypi was boring
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[22:31] <Valduare> hey guys hows it going
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[22:31] <Valduare> im not having luck finding pbm2lwxl.tar.gz available anywhere the main project site is down
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[22:39] <sir_galahad_ad> Valduare: :(
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[22:48] <UncleKiwi> hey people
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[22:48] <UncleKiwi> I really want to run an rpm based distro on my pri2
[22:48] <UncleKiwi> *rpi2
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[22:48] <UncleKiwi> i used to use pidora
[22:49] <UncleKiwi> but i don think that can work with my rpi2
[22:49] <UncleKiwi> whats the best way to go i only need cli
[22:49] <UncleKiwi> *minimal
[22:50] <UncleKiwi> i have been thinking fedora but it looks a bit of a pain to get it running on the rpi2
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[22:50] <UncleKiwi> anyone have any comments or suggestions ?
[22:51] <brianx> https://github.com/jfuchs/receipt-printy isn't what you need?
[22:51] <brianx> Valduare
[22:51] <Valduare> keep getting filter failed
[22:51] <Valduare> i’ve had this working years ago
[22:51] <brianx> maybe alien an rpm package??
[22:52] <Valduare> was considering that
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[22:58] <ali1234> imagemagick api probably changed again
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[23:05] <sim642> Is sticking 7 USB flash drives (4 via an unpowered hub) to a B+ be pushing it too much power wise?
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[23:13] <Valduare> what are you doing with that many flash drives lol
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[23:13] <t3chguy> sim642: if you enable double power mode, no
[23:14] <sim642> t3chguy, double power mode?
[23:14] <sim642> Valduare, well, it started as a test because I had these crappy drives laying around
[23:14] <t3chguy> The B+ and 2B power control circuitry defaults to half of max
[23:14] <t3chguy> You can enable full via config.txt
[23:14] <sim642> messed around with btrfs to have an epic 28GB storage across the drives
[23:14] <sim642> then started seeding a few torrents on it
[23:15] <t3chguy> sim642: https://projects.drogon.net/testing-setting-the-usb-current-limiter-on-the-raspberry-pi-b/
[23:15] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: has once again saved me having to explain something
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[23:17] <t3chguy> sim642: do make sure your 5v supply is a 2A one at least with a decent not too long usb cable between it and the pi
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[23:19] <sim642> I probably won't do it, my supply is some random cheap one too, not sure how much current it even outputs
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[23:19] <sim642> it's just that my crazy setup used to run fine
[23:20] <sim642> except as of recently problems have started occurring randomly: some of the USBs just disappear from /dev
[23:20] <sim642> causing the whole filesystem to spew I/O errors left and right
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[23:36] <tohipfortheroom> anyone built the new kernel yet
[23:36] <tohipfortheroom> 4.5.y
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[23:36] <ShorTie> it twas CXX="gcc-4.8" it seems, at least binutil is still compiling
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[23:37] <ShorTie> heard it is a 41 hour compile, lol.
[23:37] <tohipfortheroom> on the pi?
[23:37] <ShorTie> ya
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[23:37] <Valduare> whats new with 4.5?
[23:37] <tohipfortheroom> Jesus Mary and Joseph
[23:38] <tohipfortheroom> native GPU support
[23:38] <Valduare> hmm does that mean we could actually scroll around and view youtube.com? :P
[23:38] <tohipfortheroom> and native support for like a million other things are supported right out of the box
[23:39] <tohipfortheroom> if you were using my chromium port you could watch youtube and stream from soundcloud no problem
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[23:39] <tohipfortheroom> but yeah hopefully for the stock os's it improves video performance
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[23:53] <Valduare> so what else is not running native with current kernel
[23:54] <tohipfortheroom> depends on what distro your running
[23:54] <marmotworks> let's go with raspbian for starters
[23:55] <ali1234> 41 hours?
[23:55] <marmotworks> fill us with your wisdom
[23:55] <furkan> has anybody here used an hdmi splitter with a raspberry pi, to mirror the image on 2 screens? the reviews on most of these things seem really mixed...
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[23:56] <t3chguy> furkan: active or passive?
[23:56] <Valduare> furkan: what you get in trouble with your wife for your browsing habbits? now she needs to monitor you?
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[23:57] <furkan> lol no this is for digital signage
[23:57] <furkan> my alternative is to just buy 2 pis
[23:57] <tohipfortheroom> well raspbian uses 4.1 when the latest is 4.5
[23:57] <furkan> and t3chguy it seems there are issues with both... just searching hdmi splitter on amazon and the reviews are pretty bad
[23:57] <t3chguy> active ones should cause no issues
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[23:57] <t3chguy> you may need to force hdmi in config.txt though
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[23:58] <tohipfortheroom> there are usually a ton of changes for each update
[23:58] <tohipfortheroom> when i build i usually base my kernel off 4.2
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[23:58] <tohipfortheroom> but my latest have been using 4.5 because they added the raspberry pi officially

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