#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2016-02-03

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[0:00] <gordonDrogon> just the disk, no partitions?
[0:00] <dersand> yep
[0:00] <gordonDrogon> ok. we appear to be cooking with electricity.
[0:01] <dersand> I'm not too sure if that's a good term
[0:01] <gordonDrogon> cleaner than gas.
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[0:02] <dersand> Ok, 15 minutes
[0:02] <dersand> or so
[0:02] <sir_galahad_ad> but if your pi is disipating enough power to cook something, as the kids say, "ur doin' it wrong"
[0:02] <gordonDrogon> that's quite slow...
[0:02] <dersand> the specification of this card says that it's 20MB/s
[0:02] <dersand> the img is 3.7 gb
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[0:03] <bitanarchy> building go 1.5.2 requires go 1.4 !?!
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[0:04] <sir_galahad_ad> bitanarchy: you should see boot strapping gcc (or libc)
[0:04] <bitanarchy> sir_galahad_ad: I dont know about that
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[0:06] <ali1234> bitanarchy: there was actually a discussion about this on the ubuntu-dev ml the other day
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[0:06] <ali1234> bitanarchy: related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang/+bug/1536882
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[0:14] <GreeningGalaxy> anybody here know how to disable console blanking with a pitft?
[0:14] <GreeningGalaxy> all the help forums say to set the blank interval in /etc/kbd/config to 0, but it was already like that by default and the display is still going dark after about 20 minutes or so
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[0:16] <gordonDrogon> chec /etc/default/console
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[0:17] <GreeningGalaxy> that file doesnt seem to exist
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[0:17] <GreeningGalaxy> unless you mean console-setup
[0:17] <gordonDrogon> console-setup then
[0:18] <GreeningGalaxy> that doesn't have anything on blank time, just font
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[0:21] <dersand> Coming up on 20 minutes writing to sd
[0:21] <dersand> jesus
[0:21] <Berg> yes?
[0:21] <dersand> Sorry
[0:21] <dersand> and done, let's hope for the best gordonDrogon
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[0:22] <Berg> hi I'm berg in Australia and its hot and humid
[0:23] <dersand> Two. Green. Led. Blinks.
[0:23] <gordonDrogon> dersand, ok, go for it..
[0:23] <Berg> finaly got my realtek cheapo wifi working
[0:23] <dersand> Not working
[0:24] <GreeningGalaxy> my realtek adapter has overheating problems too, if that's what you're asking about.
[0:24] <dersand> got output, the green led is blinking twice.
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[0:24] <gordonDrogon> same sort of output about missing inodes, etc. ?
[0:24] <exonormal> I don't work... so nothing works for me
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[0:24] <Berg> no it was never even connected to overheat it just needed to be configured manualy for somne reason
[0:25] <Berg> seems it wasnt seen by the lsusb
[0:25] <dersand> gordonDrogon https://dl2.pushbulletusercontent.com/dgXGJp75uB3znbDrVcLQL7ZvgpaoTWH6/20160203_002454.jpg
[0:25] <Berg> plug it in and unplug a million times then bingo it showed up
[0:25] <GreeningGalaxy> odd
[0:25] <Berg> think it might been bad usb connection with plugs
[0:26] <Berg> new pi
[0:26] <Berg> works now so i dont knopw
[0:26] <marmotworks> well
[0:26] <GreeningGalaxy> I've had better-than-average luck with wicd-curses, which all the online tutorials seem to forget exists (maybe they were written before it arrived? doubt it)
[0:26] <gordonDrogon> dersand, it looks 99% of the way there, but the filesystem is corrupted.
[0:26] <marmotworks> good news nonetheless
[0:26] <Berg> sure
[0:26] <GreeningGalaxy> still have to type sudo dhcpcd wlan0 every bleeding time before starting it, but it eventually works
[0:26] <Berg> now i have my second raspberry pi running more of the house on relays
[0:27] <gordonDrogon> dersand, this might still be the CB auto-mounting the sd card once you start to dd into it, but it's really hard to tell.
[0:27] <Berg> rewrote my controller
[0:27] <gordonDrogon> I'm off to bed now... laterz
[0:27] <Berg> is pretty
[0:27] <Berg> later
[0:27] <GreeningGalaxy> ooh, doing IoT stuff, are you?
[0:27] <exonormal> sooner
[0:27] <Berg> Iot?
[0:27] <Berg> whats that mean
[0:27] <Berg> is it a three letter acronim?
[0:27] <GreeningGalaxy> Internet of Things. Wiring up your stuff to be controlled over the network.
[0:28] <Berg> yes
[0:28] <Berg> im using tight vnc
[0:28] <Berg> ssh
[0:28] <exonormal> how about loose vnc?
[0:28] <Berg> so no nothing except power and relays connected to pi
[0:28] <Berg> tightvnc is what im using
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[0:28] <Berg> seems fine
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[0:29] <Berg> this is my second relay set up on a pi for diff things around the house
[0:29] <GreeningGalaxy> i've been tempted to try wiring up one of my lights to one of my pis, but I bet my uni would kill me if they found me trying to stick a relay in anything at house-level, lol
[0:30] <Berg> made a python script that you set each relay to do what ever you like via time or sensors
[0:30] <GreeningGalaxy> I've been considering getting an IR LED and figuring out how to control my remote-controlled multicolor lightbulb from it
[0:30] <Bilby> GreeningGalaxy: hack one of those remote control outlets, all the high voltage is done for you
[0:30] <Berg> use a plug into the wall light and have the pi between the wall the the light
[0:31] <Berg> if you saw mine you would run away screaming
[0:31] <GreeningGalaxy> Bilby: good call, but thats probably outside my shoestring college student budget, lol
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[0:31] <Berg> http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/v/bergs+place/?g2_page=5
[0:31] <Berg> here is a few pics of the system its in the white cabinet
[0:32] <Bilby> GreeningGalaxy: you’d be surprised, they’re pretty cheap
[0:33] <GreeningGalaxy> Berg: neat
[0:33] <Berg> good fun hay
[0:33] <Berg> and i dont have to ask permission i own it
[0:33] <Bilby> http://www.etekcity.com/product/100069.html
[0:33] <Bilby> @ GreeningGalaxy - about $10
[0:34] <GreeningGalaxy> well, that looks like a lot more when you have $80 to your name, but I may consider it
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[0:34] <Bilby> true that haha
[0:34] <tjcarter> ... GROUNDHOG DAY sale? Really MCM/Newarg/element14/whateverthehellyoucallyourself?
[0:34] <Bilby> ikr
[0:34] <Bilby> they really need to figure themselves out
[0:34] * tjcarter facepalms :D
[0:35] <tjcarter> Oh I know why they're doing it
[0:35] <Bilby> GreeningGalaxy: where in the world are you?
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[0:35] <tjcarter> The names, not the GROUNDHOG DAY sale.
[0:36] <tjcarter> That's just ridiculous. :D
[0:36] <GreeningGalaxy> Bilby: Chicago
[0:36] <Bilby> you’re almost close enough to come over and use random electronics
[0:36] <GreeningGalaxy> heh
[0:36] <tjcarter> element14 is a portal/brand, like how dice owns websites that formerly didn't suck that they've "fixed".
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[0:37] <GreeningGalaxy> my uni has a fairly nice physical computing lab that I have access to, so I'll likely start there
[0:37] <tjcarter> Newark is a big company that supplies parts to industry professionals in lots of like 10,000 and whatnot, and that's who they cater to.
[0:38] <tjcarter> so they have MCM, a small separate company whose job it is to parcel out one or two units at a time without throwing off the numbers for the industry orders.
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[0:39] <GreeningGalaxy> apparently it is possible to play/record infrared signals with the pi, so using it as a remote for my IR-controlled lightbulb could be a very fun project
[0:39] <Bilby> DigiKey manages to sell me 1 LED or a tape spool of 10,000
[0:39] <Bilby> yep, it’s not hard. there’s an ir library for python even
[0:40] <GreeningGalaxy> particularly as a life-prolonging measure, given how crappy the remote is
[0:40] <tjcarter> Bilby: That's true as well.
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[0:40] <tjcarter> Bilby: But digikey cannot and does not try to provide the best end-user experience.
[0:41] <GreeningGalaxy> it would also be fun to get ahold of an IR laser diode and make a long-range remote, but that's probably a little further off
[0:41] <tjcarter> MCM's got that as a goal. I dunno that I'd say they succeed, but it's a goal. ;)
[0:41] <tjcarter> The Newark page was painful to find exactly what you wanted.
[0:41] <Bilby> True i guess? I’ve never had a problem with them… website is simple but easy to navigate (*cough* Element14 *cough*) and stuff ships fast and well-packed
[0:44] <sockofleas> how do i create a new file over ssh?
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[0:44] <dersand> echo "1" >> filename.txt?
[0:44] <mlelstv> ssh machine touch newfile
[0:44] <sockofleas> uh
[0:45] <sockofleas> what?
[0:46] <mlelstv> creating newfile over ssh :)
[0:46] <Bilby> nano newfile.txt ?
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[0:56] <dersand> This thing never works, does it
[0:56] <sockofleas> got it, thanks
[0:57] <sockofleas> for some reason my vnc is still not working
[0:57] <pyroxide> Banana Pi M3 so delicious
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[0:58] <dersand> Does anyone have the image of raspbian jessie, and could checksum that?
[0:59] <dersand> 2015-11-21 release
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[1:00] <exonormal> yeh for hundred bucks..
[1:00] <exonormal> can get a mini ITX for way less than that
[1:02] <pyroxide> b-but i want a p-project board
[1:03] <exonormal> ok then get a pi zero
[1:03] <pyroxide> zeroes are crap
[1:03] <methuzla> based on what?
[1:03] <pyroxide> forget it
[1:03] <exonormal> oh? that smelly?
[1:04] <pyroxide> based on the fact that the zero is single core, crap ramaaaaaaaa
[1:04] <Bilby> O_O
[1:04] <Bilby> it’s faster than the Pi 1 and the Pi 1 is legit
[1:04] <methuzla> yeah, for $5 it should be a octo-core arm8 runnning at 2.3GHz
[1:05] <pyroxide> not once did i suggest that, methuzla
[1:05] <exonormal> LOL
[1:05] <Bilby> don’t mind methuzla, he’s ancient ;)
[1:06] <exonormal> well, then get that back plane board and put 16 pi zero's on it and PRESTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[1:06] <pyroxide> o gawd please no
[1:06] <pyroxide> 16 sd cards
[1:06] <exonormal> SURE
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[1:06] <exonormal> why not?
[1:07] <BurtyB> get my hat and you only need 5 sd cards ;)
[1:07] <exonormal> it's FUN
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[1:07] <DWKnight> compute module based on the model 2 architecture would be fun
[1:08] <pyroxide> i'd rather have my project board run android AND ArchLinux ARM
[1:09] <pyroxide> listen bro. Pi 2 C Octocore, 2GB RAM, 12 USB 3.0, 6 SATRA
[1:09] <pyroxide> SATA, even
[1:09] <sockofleas> does anyone have any idea why this tutorial might not be working? https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/vnc/
[1:09] <Valduare> sweet you can turn a pi into a JTAG device!
[1:10] <exonormal> yeah but that Compute module and back pane is more than the Banana Pi
[1:10] <methuzla> sockofleas describe how it is not working
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[1:10] <pyroxide> honestly i want something small that can emulate n64 games
[1:10] <sockofleas> when i try to connect to the vnc server from my computer, it doesnt connect
[1:11] <methuzla> what does it say?
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[1:12] <sockofleas> here's my pastebin of the whole terminal: http://pastebin.com/9tN9ck3Q
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[1:12] <xamindar> pyroxide: rpi2b can't do it? Isn't there a retropi distro that has n64 emulation in it?
[1:12] <pyroxide> yeah the n64 games that i want to play run really poorly on my pi2
[1:13] <pyroxide> so bad that it's like a slideshow
[1:13] <xamindar> oh that sucks
[1:13] <xamindar> they shouldn't even include it then if it runs like that
[1:13] <exonormal> Nintendo games?
[1:14] <pyroxide> n64
[1:14] <exonormal> what is that?
[1:14] <pyroxide> o gawd
[1:14] <xamindar> wat
[1:14] <exonormal> sorry I don't know that stuff..
[1:14] <xamindar> >_>
[1:14] <xamindar> <_<
[1:14] <ozzzy_> something kids did when they forgot how to read
[1:14] <exonormal> lol
[1:15] <ozzzy_> my kids never had game consoles
[1:15] <exonormal> hokay, I'll google it, sheesh
[1:15] <ozzzy_> it was a game console
[1:15] <pyroxide> goldeneye, RUSH 2049, NFL Blitz all unplayable
[1:16] <pyroxide> on the other hand, Jet Force Gemini seemed to render the intro well, hadn't tried it though
[1:16] <methuzla> RUSH 2112 is better anyway
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[1:17] <methuzla> sockofleas what does the client say when you try to connect?
[1:17] <pyroxide> lol rush 2112
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[1:17] <sockofleas> methuzla: it says to enable screen sharing on the remote device
[1:17] <anabain> For a raspbian distro: I got a 128gb card that I've been able to mount it on my ubuntu box by previously installing exfat stuff. Should I format it with gparted or whatever in order to get an ext4 filesystem before doing 'dd', or it doesn't matter as long as I can write the .img to it using 'dd'??
[1:18] <pyroxide> doesn't matter as long as it's dumped to the partition
[1:18] <methuzla> sockofleas it looks like you started multiple instances of the vncserver
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[1:19] <methuzla> sockofleas what client are you using?
[1:20] <anabain> thanxs pyroxide, but then what is the filesystem raspbian actually uses?
[1:21] <pyroxide> ext4
[1:22] <anabain> ok
[1:22] <anabain> thnx
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[1:37] <sockofleas> methuzla: im using the mac's built in vnc client
[1:37] <sockofleas> in finder, you press command-k to access it
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[1:41] <sockofleas> methuzla: how can i find out how many instances are running, and how can i close the extra ones
[1:41] <sockofleas> ?
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[1:45] <sockofleas> anyone?
[1:45] <methuzla> ps -ef | grep vnc
[1:45] <sockofleas> oh hey
[1:45] <methuzla> vncserver -kill :x (x = display number)
[1:45] <methuzla> http://www.tightvnc.com/vncserver.1.php
[1:46] <sockofleas> what does this mean: http://pastebin.com/mbMpx6TK
[1:48] <methuzla> it's a list of running processes with 'vnc' in them
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[1:48] <sockofleas> so now i run "vncserver -kill :1" ?
[1:49] <methuzla> if you want to kill it, but it's suppose to be running
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[1:50] <methuzla> i'm not sure why you can't connect from your client
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[1:53] <Voop> hey guys
[1:53] <Voop> ive asked this before, but how tf to i find wifi dongles that use a specific driver
[1:53] <exonormal> syug yeh
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[2:06] <jossypoo> yo
[2:06] <jossypoo> from looking at raspipreview.c's source it looks like the camera module has DMA to the GPU
[2:07] <jossypoo> does anybody know if you can access that memory in a way other than through the framebuffer
[2:07] <jossypoo> wait, doesn't the gpu share ram with the cpu anyway
[2:07] <jossypoo> oh My GoD i know what two doo
[2:07] <jossypoo> smell ya later, nerds
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[2:13] <Berg> :)
[2:13] <Berg> glad we could help
[2:13] <Berg> thats so funny
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[2:20] <marmotworks> Right? I wonder what he figured out
[2:22] <Berg> no idea
[2:22] <exonormal> supin
[2:22] <Berg> but we fixed it
[2:24] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
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[2:26] <sir_galahad_ad> dunno
[2:27] <exonormal> I dunno either
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[2:57] <sockofleas> anyone know where i can find the "./vnc/xstartup" file in this tutorial: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/vnc/
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[3:12] <sir_galahad_ad> bored
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[3:12] <methuzla> bread or proto?
[3:13] <sir_galahad_ad> am not familiar with a protoboard
[3:13] <sir_galahad_ad> oh
[3:13] <sir_galahad_ad> prototyping board
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[3:13] <sir_galahad_ad> i'm with you
[3:16] <sockofleas> anyone know where i can find the "./vnc/xstartup" file in this tutorial: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/vnc/
[3:17] <sir_galahad_ad> home dir?
[3:19] <sockofleas> its not there
[3:19] <sockofleas> yet the vnc works
[3:20] <sir_galahad_ad> locate it?
[3:20] <sockofleas> im asking for help locating it
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[3:22] <sir_galahad_ad> i mean use the command
[3:22] <sir_galahad_ad> locate
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[3:28] <methuzla> sockofleas per you previous pastebin, it's here: /home/pi/.vnc/xstartup
[3:28] <sockofleas> hold on, i need a couple minutes
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[3:40] <Berg> he bought a new battery
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[3:50] <sockofleas> methuzla: i found that file
[3:50] <sockofleas> but there was no parameter in it
[3:50] <sockofleas> named xsetroot
[3:52] <sockofleas> sorry i lied
[3:52] <sockofleas> it was there
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[3:54] <JakeSays> so with a hardware clock installed, do i still need fake-hwclock?
[3:56] <exonormal> http://www.thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/manufacturer-shipped-review-sample-ssd-contains-fake-nand-flash-memory/
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[5:08] <Eternias> is there anything fro raspberry pi
[5:08] <Eternias> to be able to do mirroring
[5:08] <Eternias> with say a mac?
[5:09] <methuzla> define mirroring
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[5:19] <Eternias> i can "wirelessly" connect to a pi
[5:19] <Eternias> and see my my desktop
[5:19] <Eternias> on a monitor
[5:19] <Eternias> or extend my display
[5:19] <Eternias> to a secondary display
[5:19] <Eternias> open a browser window on it
[5:19] <Eternias> drag it between my laptop
[5:19] <Eternias> and the "remote" monitor
[5:21] <fusa24> I am using a Netgear N300 Wireless Mini USB Adapter to connect to my network, after a few days the adapter will loose connection like it has gone to sleep, is there anyway to prevent this?
[5:21] <Eternias> like this: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201343
[5:21] <Eternias> Mirror your display or extend your desktop
[5:22] <Eternias> You can also use AirPlay to mirror or extend everything on your Mac display. The display must be connected and awake.
[5:22] <Eternias> im sure raspberry pi cant do airplay
[5:22] <Eternias> but if it has something similar
[5:22] <Eternias> that would be awesome
[5:22] <methuzla> vnc
[5:22] <Eternias> without having to buy chromecast
[5:22] <Eternias> or buy an apple tv
[5:24] <Ub3r> Eternias are you talking to yourself?
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[5:26] <Eternias> my question is
[5:27] <Eternias> how can i do something like what i described using a pi
[5:27] <Eternias> ?
[5:27] <Eternias> without spending money on Apple TV
[5:27] <Eternias> or Chromecast
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[5:27] <methuzla> vnc
[5:28] <Ub3r> Why do you
[5:28] <Ub3r> Insist on talking
[5:28] <Ub3r> On so many
[5:28] <Ub3r> Lines when you
[5:28] <Ub3r> Can say everything
[5:28] <Ub3r> All at once
[5:28] <Ub3r> That's annoying
[5:29] <methuzla> could be using a 1x20 lcd display or something
[5:29] <Eternias> what annoys me more is there are 522 users on this channel, and the only good soul is methuzla, who actually has a response
[5:29] <Eternias> and wants to chat on internet relay chat*
[5:30] <Eternias> Ub3r, you count as a good soul too as you actually notice that i said something :)
[5:31] <Ub3r> Only noticed because it took you 30 lines to say it
[5:31] <Eternias> exactly
[5:31] <Eternias> thats what i think "sometimes" makes a difference
[5:31] <Eternias> taking 30 lines
[5:31] <Eternias> no one notices fusa24's question
[5:31] <Ub3r> Which I would have ignored the question...
[5:31] <methuzla> i did, don't have answer
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[5:32] <Ub3r> I noticed it, but i dont answer people that dont take 5 mins to google
[5:32] <Eternias> fair enough
[5:32] <Ub3r> His question is answered on at least 20 different blogs
[5:32] <Ub3r> And reddit
[5:33] <Ub3r> Methuzla you answered him. You said VNC twice
[5:34] <Eternias> yes he did, was wondering if there was any other possibilities
[5:34] <Eternias> thanks Methuzla
[5:34] <Ub3r> Buy a chromecast, cost less than a Pi, and is plug and play
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[5:35] <Eternias> ive been thinking about that actually.... chromecast or Apple TV... the problem is, theres like no reviews or benchmarks on using both of them for mirroring
[5:36] <Eternias> one youtube video showed chromecast having a little bit of latency, but there doesnt seem to be anything out there with a direct comparison using the latest chromecast and apple tv
[5:37] <Ub3r> And try googling SHAIRPORT
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[5:37] <Ub3r> All devices are going to have latency when you are sending video over wifi...
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[5:39] <Eternias> true, though VNC has done a pretty good job of optimizing it
[5:39] <Eternias> though it is not called "Airplay" or "Chromecast Desktop Mirroring"
[5:39] <Eternias> SHAIRPORT looks very interesting
[5:39] <Eternias> thanks for the share
[5:40] <Ub3r> Again take 5 mins a google Airplay Raspberry Pi
[5:40] <Ub3r> Think lifehacker.com had an article on it
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[5:41] <Ub3r> http://kodi.wiki/view/AirPlay
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[5:42] * Ub3r is done with the google lessons and headed to bed
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[5:42] <Eternias> this looks promising
[5:42] <Eternias> http://www.instructables.com/id/AirPlay-Mirroring-without-Apple-TV-using-RPi/step3/Installing-the-software/
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[5:42] <Eternias> the comments are so inconsistent, its like some people say it works, others say there are errors
[5:42] <Eternias> night Ub3r
[5:42] <Eternias> thanks for the direction!
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[5:51] <Eternias> help!
[5:52] <Eternias> i just started up my rpi
[5:52] <Eternias> on raspbian
[5:52] <Eternias> and the resolution is messed up
[5:52] <Eternias> terminal window is crazy huge
[5:52] <Eternias> does not look 1080p at all
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[6:02] <fusa24> Ub3r, yeah I saw the different answers on google, editing 8192cu.conf, but that doesnt help
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[6:42] <aem> anybody know who to contact if my pi zero is defective from magpi?
[6:43] <aem> the usb wont work at all
[6:43] <aem> and yes psu is 2.5a 5v and sufficient
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[6:46] <sponge-tmp> aem: maybe those ppl where you bought it ?
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[6:48] <aem> go back to barnes and noble?
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[6:49] <aem> i dont think i can do that
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[6:53] <lurtz_> is there any difference in the firmware for the rasp pi boards?
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[6:54] <lurtz_> or can i safely just swap from older model to a new one without reinstall of OS
[6:55] <Chillum> the latest version should work on all pi types
[6:56] <Chillum> just make sure you are updated
[6:56] <lurtz_> yeah ok, nice :)
[6:58] <lurtz_> i have been scouting around on the web for the best SD card for my pi. i feel its slow
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[6:59] <lurtz_> some pages claims class 10 and some class 4, even some mention about UHS cards to be the best
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[7:00] <lurtz_> is there any recommmendations for some SD card. for OS usage only
[7:01] <Eternias> Sandisk Extreme
[7:01] <Eternias> those are awesome
[7:01] <Eternias> do you live in the US?
[7:01] <lurtz_> okey, which class?
[7:01] <lurtz_> no, sweden
[7:03] <Eternias> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010Q57S62
[7:04] <Eternias> if you want capacity
[7:04] <Eternias> if you want speed
[7:04] <Eternias> http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-MicroSDXC-Adapter-SDSQXNE-064G-GN6MA/dp/B013CP5IWO/
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[7:05] <Eternias> Class 3
[7:05] <lurtz_> ok thx :)
[7:05] <Eternias> anything faster than that... will be a lot more expensive
[7:05] <Eternias> and not as worth it
[7:05] <Eternias> imo
[7:06] <lurtz_> ok
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[7:07] <Eternias> Class 10's are the most common... but having tried out both.....
[7:07] <Eternias> i've seen noticable difference in OS performance using Class 3
[7:07] <Eternias> especially when installing packages/updates
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[7:07] <lurtz_> think i have a class 10 now. damn slow :p
[7:07] <lurtz_> mm
[7:08] <Eternias> yeah, generally class 10's are around 40-45mb/s read write
[7:08] <Eternias> class 3's are 90-95
[7:08] <Eternias> more than double :)
[7:10] <lurtz_> yeah
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[7:30] <DSdavidDS> Hi guys. I am having the same issue described here: http://superuser.com/questions/853801/raspberry-pi-cannot-find-host
[7:31] <DSdavidDS> Can anyone explain to me why Linux dns isn't compatible with Windows?
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[7:48] <mlelstv> windows?
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[7:50] <lurtz_> a buggy OS from microsoft
[7:50] <lurtz_> ;)
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[9:11] * ShorTie Thinkz, Oh boy, ODROID-C2 : 64bit quad-core SBC
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[9:17] <Armand> ShorTie: I hope..
[9:17] <ShorTie> be out March 2nd
[9:17] <Armand> SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!
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[9:42] <mohsen_> When I switch the RPi on with hdmi cable plugged in, I get no display, but hearing some sounds from inside the monitor. but when I plugg the hdmi cable after switching the RPi on I get message: "usb 1-1-port1: cannot trdry (err = -110)"
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[9:43] <selckin> tried a differend monitor?
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[9:44] <mohsen_> The monitor works okay when I plug it into my laptop VGA output
[9:45] <selckin> try your tv if you don't have another monitor, just to see if its something specific to that monitor or maybe more general with the pi
[9:45] <mohsen_> That message shows up in the monitor's display actually.
[9:46] * ShorTie Cornfused, but hdmi is turned off if not found at boot
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[9:49] <mohsen_> selckin: I don't have access to a TV right now.
[9:49] <mohsen_> RPi does not boot into the OS
[9:50] <selckin> i think you can press 1, 2,3 during boot to swap displays? i remembing reading that anyway, not sure
[9:50] <ShorTie> what image are you using ??
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[9:50] <mohsen_> ShorTie: Archlinux ARM
[9:51] <ShorTie> and you installed it by thier install for the pi ??
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[9:52] <mohsen_> Yeah their official installation page.
[9:52] <ShorTie> sortta sounds like the process got messed up, i'd try again
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[9:53] <mohsen_> What do you mean?
[9:53] <mohsen_> I reinstall the os?
[9:53] <ShorTie> ya
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[9:53] <mohsen_> ShorTie: I installed alarm from here: http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/broadcom/raspberry-pi-2
[9:54] <ShorTie> or for a quicky test, try the latest raspbian to see if all is ok
[9:54] <mohsen_> That's what you do when you get an error?
[9:55] <ShorTie> most likely, but every case is different
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[9:56] <ShorTie> 1st you gotta figure out if it is hardware or software related, so that is why i suggest raspbian for a quick test
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[9:57] <mohsen_> The installation and setting up of arch take so much time.
[9:58] <ShorTie> they don't have any validation of the ArchLinuxARM-rpi-2-latest.tar.gz, so that could be a bad down load
[9:59] <ShorTie> other then the download, not really that long
[10:00] <mohsen_> You mean I install arch from Noobs?
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[10:00] <shiftplusone> Don't install arch from noobs, it's ancient
[10:00] <ShorTie> arch is not really a support os by the foundation
[10:00] <mohsen_> Solved the problem
[10:02] <mohsen_> Last night I copied some overclocking options from RPi's page in Arch's wiki
[10:02] <mohsen_> Now that I removed them from the config.txt its working fine
[10:03] <ShorTie> ya, can't use rpi overclocking on a rpi2
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[10:03] <mohsen_> But they don't seem to have any problem? will you guys take a look: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Raspberry_Pi#Overclocking.2Funderclocking
[10:03] <mohsen_> ShorTie: It's written there Raspberry Pi, I thought its general for all Ppes
[10:03] <mohsen_> pies*
[10:04] <ShorTie> nop
[10:04] <ShorTie> 1st thing i saw is 'arm_freq=800', which is rpi not rpi2
[10:06] <mohsen_> There are 4 overclocking modes in my config file, I uncommented the "modest" level, but didn't have any problem?
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[10:07] <ShorTie> this is a rpi2 ??
[10:08] <ShorTie> because there is only 1 special overclocking for a rpi2, 900mhz i do believe
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[10:08] <mohsen_> Yeah it is an RPi 2
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[10:09] <mohsen_> So that config.txt is mistakenly placed there?
[10:09] <ShorTie> no, not really
[10:09] <mohsen_> How can I generate/download the RPi 2's own config file?
[10:09] <ShorTie> just can't use the overclocking options
[10:09] * ShorTie Thinkz, get raspbian
[10:10] <mohsen_> WIll you tell me what is the option to overclock to 900mhz?
[10:10] <ShorTie> off the top of my head ??
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[10:11] <ShorTie> i have no idea, but i know any rpi option will not work on a rpi2
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[10:11] <mohsen_> I see.
[10:11] <mohsen_> You know I watched youtube reviews for Raspbian
[10:11] <ShorTie> guess you could rip it out of raspi-config and import it though
[10:12] <ScrumpyJack> I want to learn about microcontrollers. where is a good place to start? :)
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[10:12] <mohsen_> I have no idea why its *so many* times faster than arch
[10:12] <ShorTie> what is so faster ??
[10:12] <mohsen_> ScrumpyJack: Have you heard about arduino?
[10:12] <shiftplusone> ScrumpyJack: something like an arduino would be good, if you move away from their IDE.
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[10:13] <shiftplusone> http://hackaday.com/2015/10/01/arduino-development-theres-a-makefile-for-that/
[10:13] <ShorTie> raspbian has the SoC design engineers helping in the development, that is why it is the most optimized os for the pi
[10:13] <ShorTie> ie: has all the special sauce to make it fly
[10:14] <mohsen_> ShorTie: Raspbian, I really have no idea why, because arch+bspwm+epiphanny is really lighter than Raspbian.
[10:14] <ShorTie> why no IDE ??
[10:14] <ShorTie> think i just stated why
[10:15] <mohsen_> ShorTie: But some it is just derived from Debian?
[10:15] <mohsen_> some of it*
[10:15] <ScrumpyJack> i looked at arduino, but i want to program it in BASIC if it has an interpreter, or C if can run compiled code, if that makes sense
[10:15] <mohsen_> ShorTie: Yeah didn't see your message
[10:15] <ShorTie> it is all derived from Debian, thus the 'bian' in it's name
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[10:16] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: I think their IDE is great to get started, but it's awful for learning about microcontrollers. Everything is hidden away and you're encouraged to use their libraries for everything. Whereas poking the registers yourself would actually teach you something.
[10:16] <ShorTie> it's Debian optimized and recompiled just for the pi
[10:17] <ShorTie> true shiftplusone
[10:17] <mohsen_> ShorTie: Yeah, but instead of some kernel parameters and modules or their own gpu driver, what could they ship into raspbian?
[10:17] <mohsen_> what else*
[10:17] <mohsen_> alarm's official repos don't have vc4 driver
[10:18] <ShorTie> got me, ask shiftplusone, he works there
[10:18] <mohsen_> Where?
[10:18] <ShorTie> the foundation
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[10:19] <shiftplusone> well, trading, not foundation, but close enough.
[10:20] <ShorTie> shows how much i know, lol.
[10:20] <mohsen_> shiftplusone: So if you work in trading, you probably know how RPi 2 china differs from the UK one :D ?
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[10:22] <shiftplusone> mohsen_: they don't really. Maybe slightly different components here and there, but nothing that would affect the quality negatively. There was one incident where a crystal was swapped without approval which resulted in a bad batch, but that was a one off.
[10:23] <ScrumpyJack> what programming environment does the Arduino support?
[10:23] <mohsen_> ScrumpyJack: C++
[10:23] <ScrumpyJack> :(
[10:24] <mohsen_> shiftplusone: Electronic shops here sell the UK one a bit more expensive than the china one.
[10:24] <ShorTie> that be the IDE, the Arduino's use only assembly i do believe
[10:25] <mohsen_> ShorTie: You mean it converts the C++ into assembly then?
[10:25] <shiftplusone> ScrumpyJack: they directly support their own IDE, but you can use eclipse, geany or whatever else you want and code in C or C++. There are probably versions of python that you can use, but.... I wouldn't.
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[10:25] <ShorTie> that is why the IDE has to compile stuff before it is uploaded
[10:26] <ScrumpyJack> do they have a compiler?
[10:26] <ScrumpyJack> I want to use vi :)
[10:26] <shiftplusone> they use GCC behind the scenes
[10:26] <shiftplusone> https://www.arduino.cc/en/Reference/UsingAVR
[10:26] <shiftplusone> http://www.nongnu.org/avr-libc/
[10:27] <ShorTie> the IDE uses it's own compiler, a patched version of gcc
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[10:27] <ShorTie> well, except for sam stuff, it's just a binary they use
[10:27] <mohsen_> Are arduino boards really used in commercial projects?
[10:28] <shiftplusone> mohsen_: they shouldn't be, they're for prototyping. But the chip that's on them certainly is.
[10:28] <shiftplusone> So once you're ready to go to production, you'd design your own board, but use pretty much the same code.
[10:28] <mohsen_> Yeah Atmegas are popular
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[10:30] <Macgyver0> lol microchip.com
[10:30] <mohsen_> I've got an arduino nano, was going to use it for automatic school bell, for my causin's school:D
[10:31] <ScrumpyJack> ok cool, gcc-avr is in debian repos
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[10:32] <ShorTie> it's not the same thing the IDE uses though
[10:32] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: isn't it?
[10:32] <ShorTie> nop
[10:33] <ShorTie> they have lots of patches
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[10:34] <shiftplusone> Patches to gcc-avr itself or just their own libraries and pre-processor added on top?
[10:34] <ShorTie> my latest script is for the IDE, which compiles everything from source
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[10:35] <ShorTie> not real sure what all the patches do to tell you the truth
[10:35] <shiftplusone> fair enough
[10:35] <shiftplusone> but yeah, it looks like they have their own flavour https://github.com/arduino/Arduino/tree/master/build/linux
[10:36] <shiftplusone> ah https://github.com/arduino/toolchain-avr
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[10:36] <ShorTie> the gcc-arm-none eabi is fun, need 12 gigs to compile, lol.
[10:36] <shiftplusone> doesn't seem to be much there
[10:36] <ShorTie> heard it takes 41 hours on a rpi
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[10:37] <shiftplusone> fun
[10:37] <ShorTie> ya you can use the system stuff, but the don't recommend it
[10:39] <ShorTie> plus to get it to compile cleanly, you have to use gcc-4.8
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[10:39] <ScrumpyJack> right, so i should be able to build that toolchain to compile for the arduino?
[10:39] <ShorTie> or older seems to work too...
[10:40] <ScrumpyJack> i see they have a bootloader to write over usb
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[10:40] <shiftplusone> *shrugs* I just used the stuff from the repo while working on the sense hat (attiny) and programming it over SPI using avrdude.
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[10:59] <pelthomas> Hello everyone
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[10:59] <gordonDrogon> morning.
[10:59] <pelthomas> Does anyone got an Edimax Wifi Adaptor ?
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[11:01] <BurtyB> yes
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[11:02] <pelthomas> BurtyB: I got stuck at 56Kb/s while downloading and I can't figure out why
[11:02] <pelthomas> BurtyB: Do you encounter the same issue ?
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[11:12] <BurtyB> pelthomas, speed isn't great (22Mbit/s) but it's not that bad for me
[11:13] <ScrumpyJack> so, which arduino should I start with? just to get a feel for the toolchain
[11:15] <pelthomas> BurtyB: Is it plugged into a Raspberry PI ?
[11:16] <BurtyB> pelthomas, that was in the Pi Zero iirc
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[11:17] <pelthomas> BurtyB: Did it worked out-of-the-box ?
[11:17] <BurtyB> pelthomas, yup
[11:18] <pelthomas> BurtyB: Crap. I suspect the driver to be responsible ...
[11:18] <pelthomas> BurtyB: I'm using 8192cu, what about you ?
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[11:22] <BurtyB> pelthomas, I can't spot it atm (the edup have taken over) otherwise I'd plug it in but they should work with the modern installations out of the box
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[11:26] <pelthomas> BurtyB thank you anyway ;)
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[11:36] <pelthomas> Does anyone else got an Edimax Wifi Adaptor ?
[11:37] <DL1> What does your Edimax show if you run a lsusb command?
[11:38] <DL1> There's a mass of stuff on http://raspberrypi.org/forums about getting WiFi adapters running.
[11:38] <t3chguy> ScrumpyJack: probably Uno, but I'd personally suggest Leonardo
[11:39] <pelthomas> DL1: I've got the edimax ew-7811un using 8192cu driver
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[12:18] <dersand> gordonDrogon, Hello are you here?
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[12:21] <ScrumpyJack> t3chguy: does the Leonardo have another name? https://www.arduino.cc/en/Main/Products
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> dersand, hi.
[12:21] <ScrumpyJack> ok, i see it https://www.arduino.cc/en/Main/arduinoBoardLeonardo
[12:21] <ScrumpyJack> retired
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[12:22] <dersand> So i took out another laptop which has ubuntu, not inside a chroot but actually dual-booting ubuntu/w10. Plugged in the sd-card, df -h and unmounted the partitions, dd'd, took 15 minutes or so to write and plugged in the pi again. Two. Green. Led. Flashes.
[12:23] <gordonDrogon> right, but did it boot to the login prompt yet?
[12:24] <gordonDrogon> and just to note - there are no LED flash codes, so 2 flashes doesn't mean anything.
[12:24] <dersand> Woah, hold on, got lot's of [ok]
[12:24] <dersand> RASP LOGO
[12:25] <dersand> and a xfce-interface
[12:25] <gordonDrogon> there you go - booted.
[12:25] <dersand> i must be in!
[12:25] <gordonDrogon> the image must have been configured to go directly to desktop, maybe jessie does that, I don't use it - still with wheezy.
[12:25] <GreeningGalaxy> there are xfce images now?
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> it's probably lxde.
[12:26] <GreeningGalaxy> yeah, the default ones are still lxde, they just look a bit more polished since they've actually put in their own custom theme now
[12:28] <ScrumpyJack> t3chguy: i like the micro. any experiance with that?
[12:28] <t3chguy> ScrumpyJack: yes
[12:28] <t3chguy> Same as the Leonardo except size
[12:31] <GreeningGalaxy> i guess two green led flashes is worse than lots of green led flashes when you're trying to boot
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[12:38] <knob> Good morning everyone =)
[12:38] <knob> morning/afternoon/evening =)
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[12:44] <gordonDrogon> the green flashes are non deterministic during booting - well mostly. the LED goes off when it accesses the SD card once the kernel is loaded.
[12:45] <gordonDrogon> sort of the opposite of the HDD LED on a normal PC does.
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[13:39] <pelthomas> Someone stuck with very slow download speed using Edimax ew-7811un wifi dongle ?
[13:40] <shiftplusone> pelthomas: no, they generally work very well. What speeds are you getting from iperf, how many other access points are there on that channel, how busy is the network?
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[13:45] <pelthomas> shiftplusone: Home network with max 2 hosts
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[13:45] <pelthomas> shiftplusone: I'm not at home so I can't check iperf right now but I'll take a look at it
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[14:31] <Kryczek> pelthomas: what channel are you on?
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[14:33] <pelthomas> Kryczek: I'm sorry ?
[14:33] <vuokkovuorinnen> Kryczek: which wifi channel? (1 through 13)
[14:34] <vuokkovuorinnen> the more things broadcasting on a certain channel, the worse a connection you'll get
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[14:35] <pelthomas> Ow ! Ok hum I don't know I'll see it later. You think it's related to the wifi channel ?
[14:36] <vuokkovuorinnen> pelthomas: might be, there's some apps for android which you can use to see which things are polluting the air around you
[14:36] <vuokkovuorinnen> pelthomas: or use linssid on a linux pc with wifi
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[14:49] <Inheritance> ls
[14:49] <Inheritance> uhhh
[14:49] <DWKnight> wrong window
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[14:57] <pelthomas> vuokkovuorinnen: Thank you for the tip
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[14:58] <pelthomas> vuokkovuorinnen: But I'm not suspecting connection to be in fault given that we are only two users (2 hosts using internet connection)
[14:59] <vuokkovuorinnen> pelthomas: your neighbours wifi might be interfering by transmitting on the same channel
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[15:01] <pelthomas> vuokkovuorinnen: That's something I wasn't suspecting at all ! Is that possible ?
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[15:04] <vuokkovuorinnen> pelthomas: http://www.metageek.com/training/resources/why-channels-1-6-11.html
[15:04] <vuokkovuorinnen> pelthomas: or google it ;)
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[15:32] <Dex-Freudii> I've got a HDMI2VGA adapter and connected the computer monitor to that to work on a PI2, but the screen is yellowish... any idea how to work this around?
[15:33] <SpeedEvil> blue-tinted glasses.
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[15:34] <DWKnight> check the pins on the vga cable and the adapter Dex-Freudii
[15:34] <DWKnight> blue pin is probably loose, broken or otherwise problematic
[15:35] <Dex-Freudii> the vga cable (of the screen) is Ok since I use it with my laptop
[15:35] <Dex-Freudii> the VGA adapter seems Ok (it is brand new)
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[15:36] <Dex-Freudii> and if I set in the screen R =0 and G =0, I see a monochromatic blue picture
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[15:36] <DWKnight> Dex-Freudii: if you can, load https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/SMPTE_Color_Bars.svg/2000px-SMPTE_Color_Bars.svg.png and see which ones come up correctly
[15:36] <Dex-Freudii> ah! and it only works if I set HDMI_safe =1 in config.txt
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[15:40] <anabain> which is my best bet to get decent multimedia features using raspberry pi 2 B?
[15:41] <DWKnight> anabain: what sort of multimedia features?
[15:43] <anabain> decent (=smooth) video playing, youtube or streaming in general. Basically that.
[15:43] <anabain> DWKnight ^
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[15:44] <Tenkawa> greetings all
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[15:49] <DWKnight> anabain: I found that openelec or other kodi based installs work decent for watching 30fps stuff on the pi B/B+ (single core)
[15:50] <DWKnight> haven't tested the pi 2 with 60fps stuff yet, but the pi B/B+ doesn't keep up with 1080p60 that well
[15:51] <anabain> DWKnight, right now I have installed a raspbian on the raspberry pi 2 b and html5 playing performance (youtube videos) is simply a joke
[15:52] <DWKnight> kodi is able to leverage videocore better from what I can tell
[15:53] <DWKnight> I use a "send to kodi" function on my phone or computer to get the youtube videos over
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[15:54] <anabain> ok, I was just about to try kodi to see how it performs...
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[15:56] <anabain> DWKnight, I was given the rp as a gift and I thought I could build something decent to plug to my living room tv. Some pretty good multimedia + a linux box was the idea...
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[15:59] <DWKnight> I'm looking for browser addons for kodi right now, but not finding any arm compatible ones
[16:00] <hypermist> as in internet browser or movie browser DWKnight ?
[16:02] <DWKnight> as in chromium/firefox kind of thing
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[16:14] <hypermist> ah so internet browser, yea kodi i dont think have one haha
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[16:53] <SopaXorzTaker> Hey!
[16:54] <SopaXorzTaker> I've made a TV transmitter for the RasPI
[16:54] <SopaXorzTaker> It ab-uses the SPI interface, please PM me if you want to test it
[16:54] <SopaXorzTaker> It needs a TV that can be tuned to 49.75M
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[16:58] <SopaXorzTaker> Listen up, #raspberrypi!
[16:59] <SopaXorzTaker> I need a brave hobbyist who owns a RasPI and an analog TV
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[16:59] <IT_Sean> Is that thing transmitting wirelessly?
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[17:02] <SopaXorzTaker> IT_Sean, yeah
[17:02] <SopaXorzTaker> by abusing the SPI interface
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[17:04] <IT_Sean> If you are in the US, that device is in violation of FCC regulations. Be aware that you can be fined heavily for using it, moreso if it's use interferes with a licensed signal.
[17:04] <SopaXorzTaker> IT_Sean, it won't do any harm with a short antenna
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[17:05] <SopaXorzTaker> the signal gets faint in 5m
[17:05] <SopaXorzTaker> and I'm testing it indoors
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[17:08] <Chillum> fcc, meh
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[17:10] <knob> Hey guys... any suggestion on a very good USB WiFi dongle for the rPi? Maybe even with a pig-tail antenna option?
[17:10] <Chillum> we discontinued analog here ages ago.
[17:10] <Chillum> needed the bandwidth for cell phones
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[17:11] <gordonDrogon> SopaXorzTaker, I have an analog TV, however I'm in the UK. does it have a PAL signal?
[17:11] <gordonDrogon> actually, forget that - I really don't want to fiddle with tuning an old TV, etc.
[17:11] * gordonDrogon engages the 'can't be bothered' brain cell.
[17:12] <SopaXorzTaker> gordonDrogon, I beg yoiu
[17:12] <SopaXorzTaker> *you
[17:12] <SopaXorzTaker> I need you
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[17:13] <Chillum> those old tvs get put on the sidewalk, and nobody takes them
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[17:15] <DWKnight> knob: the edimax 150mbit usb plays really nice on the pi
[17:15] <DWKnight> EW-7811Un
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[17:18] <SopaXorzTaker> OK, I can transmit analog TV on 49.75MHz
[17:18] <gordonDrogon> SopaXorzTaker, no, sorry. I'm sure its a worth project but really if I want to do that, I'll use a video cable via the compost output socket.
[17:19] <SopaXorzTaker> gordonDrogon, that isn't the purpose
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[17:21] <hinv> anybody here have a kindle connected to their pi?
[17:21] <gordonDrogon> knob, what's wrong with the official foundation one?
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[17:22] <plm> Hi all
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[17:22] <t3chguy> I agree with gordonDrogon - they're good, they seem to breed
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[17:22] <t3chguy> I seem to have 3 unused ones...
[17:23] <gordonDrogon> SopaXorzTaker, 49.75Mhz is somewhat low for transmissing a TV signal in the UK. Try 594MHz ...
[17:23] <SopaXorzTaker> gordonDrogon, it is Russian channel 1
[17:23] * gordonDrogon boggles!
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[17:23] <SopaXorzTaker> and gives the ability to get precise timings
[17:23] <gordonDrogon> that's an old (very old) VHF frequency.
[17:23] <ali1234> SopaXorzTaker: i can hook it to my bt878 and see what happens
[17:24] <ali1234> i doubt it goes that low though
[17:24] <gordonDrogon> we dropped that in the UK a few decades ago.
[17:25] <ali1234> so here's what i don't get
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[17:25] <ali1234> why doesn't every piece of electronics output huge amount of interference all the time?
[17:26] <Chillum> why would they?
[17:26] <ali1234> i dunno, why do they when you do it deliberately?
[17:26] <gordonDrogon> ali1234, they do - not huge, but not insignificant in some instances either.
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[17:27] <Chillum> I don't really understand why antennas transmit so much better than regular wires, but I am sure there is a good reason
[17:27] <gordonDrogon> the Pi did have some issues getting tested IIRC.
[17:27] <ali1234> but for example PiFM
[17:27] <gordonDrogon> Chillum, it's to do with the specific length and the way they're driven.
[17:27] <Chillum> that makes sense
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[17:28] <ali1234> so it's all about the antenna?
[17:28] <gordonDrogon> it's a lot to do with it.
[17:28] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, pm me
[17:28] <ali1234> SopaXorzTaker: why PM?
[17:28] <gordonDrogon> generate enough power and anything will transmit, but not that efficiently.
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[17:28] <vade> hello - is there any documentation regarding the most optimal / fast path OpenGL Texture submission and formats for RPI / RPI2 ?
[17:28] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, just
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[17:28] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, we can talk in a channel if you like
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[17:29] <gordonDrogon> I don't think I've seen an old Band I antennae on a roof-top here for donkeys years...
[17:29] <ali1234> hmm wait a minute
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> it was the old 405-line black & white standard here.
[17:30] <ali1234> bt878 with europe-west frequency table supports 49MHz
[17:30] <mothership> is it possible to make it so pi could only be accessed by ssh but not directly using display/keyboard some kind of lock?
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> mothership, yes.
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[17:31] <ali1234> SopaXorzTaker: give me a minute to make up a cable
[17:31] <mothership> gordonDrogon, is there an easy way to achieve this?
[17:31] <Chillum> mothership: though there is little to stop them from removing the memory card and reading/altering it and putting it back in
[17:32] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, https://sopaxorz.tk/rpitx.tgz
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[17:32] <gordonDrogon> mothership, yes, however I really recommend you start reading the debian system adminstrators handbook - google it. then disable virtual consoles.
[17:32] <SopaXorzTaker> it transmits on the MOSI pin
[17:32] <gordonDrogon> mothership, however, as Chillum suggests - anyone with physical access can more or less do anything.
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[17:33] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, it creates a 49.75M carrier
[17:33] <SopaXorzTaker> unpack it and run `sudo ./tx` on the Pi
[17:33] <Chillum> you could crazy glue the memory card in, but someone could still access the card from the solder points/ test points
[17:33] <Chillum> you could lock the whole thing in a box
[17:34] <mothership> yea that sounds like the most reasonable approach
[17:34] <Chillum> sometimes low tech is the best tech
[17:34] <mothership> right on
[17:34] <shauno> brick it into the wall next to the netware box ;)
[17:34] <mothership> good idea tbh
[17:34] <IT_Sean> Then, when the SD card fails, you can tear down the brick wall to replace it.
[17:34] <mothership> sounds fun
[17:34] <Chillum> I think concrete is a decent thermal conductor
[17:35] <Chillum> need to run a network cable out though
[17:35] <ali1234> SopaXorzTaker: how do i compile it?
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[17:35] <Chillum> we are kidding, but I wonder how long a solid state computer could last in a wall
[17:36] <Chillum> I guess the memory card would die first
[17:36] <Chillum> though it could run in read only mode using ram to minimize wear
[17:37] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, it is precompiled
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[17:38] <shauno> I believe the path of least resistance is to disallow them tty, man access.conf this allows you to say, eg, group wheel can login physically, no-one else can
[17:38] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, you will find the exexutable named 'tx'
[17:38] <IT_Sean> Chillum: just in a wall space? Should be fine. Encased in concrete, it would die very quickly as the board expanded and contacted w/ hot and cold cycles.
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[17:39] <ali1234> SopaXorzTaker: also what am i actually testing?
[17:39] <ali1234> yeah i don't run random executables
[17:40] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, you can attach a short wire to MOSI
[17:40] <SopaXorzTaker> and run the tx on the Pi
[17:40] <SopaXorzTaker> but first, you need to adjust /boot/config.txt
[17:40] <ali1234> this uses mikem bcm2835 library?
[17:40] <SopaXorzTaker> add "core_freq=199"
[17:40] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, yes, it does
[17:41] <SopaXorzTaker> you can compile the software yourself: "gcc -O3 tx.c -o tx -lbcm2835 -lm"
[17:41] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, but first, get the library, please
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[17:42] <ali1234> it sure takes a while to compile...
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[17:42] <ali1234> done it
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[17:43] <gordonDrogon> ali1234, you have a TV that old?
[17:43] <ali1234> "that" old?
[17:43] <shauno> oh boy
[17:43] <ali1234> i have a bt878 wintv-pci
[17:44] <ali1234> it supports 49.75MHz
[17:44] <gordonDrogon> really? wow.
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[17:44] <gordonDrogon> although I guess is Russia still uses that band for TV, then it might get some sales over there...
[17:44] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, sorry, my IRC crashed
[17:45] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, now attach a wire to MOSI
[17:45] <ali1234> rebooting pi...
[17:45] <SopaXorzTaker> and run sudo ./tx
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[17:47] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, what flavour of Pi do you have
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[17:47] <SopaXorzTaker> I hope it is the first one
[17:47] <ali1234> pi 2
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[17:47] <ali1234> this does nothing
[17:48] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, should have used the first one...
[17:48] <SopaXorzTaker> because the Pi2 has 2836....
[17:48] <ali1234> it shouldn't matter the broadcom hardware is identical
[17:48] <ali1234> let me hook it to the scope
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[17:51] <ali1234> well it's doing something...
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[17:52] <shauno> kinda sounds like a harmonics nightmare
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[17:54] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, is that a sea of pulses?
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[17:54] <ali1234> pretty much yeah
[17:55] <SopaXorzTaker> it's working
[17:55] <msev-> does anyone of you guys have a usb-storage-stick plugged into a rasberry pi. I'm thinking that because it is not wise to make frequent writes on the pi's SD card, I would instead log sensor data to a usb stick? What do you guys think, is it a good idea?
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[17:55] <gordonDrogon> I think its one more thing to go wrong.
[17:56] <ali1234> scope says it's 25MHz
[17:56] <shauno> I log sensor data to the network
[17:57] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, so, something went wrong
[17:57] <shauno> only real annoyance is that I still have no heartbeat thing for the wifi knocked together, so I get gaps between any wifi issues, and when I spot the silence
[17:57] <SopaXorzTaker> did you reboot after altering the config.txt
[17:57] <msev-> shauno, do you mean like google drive or dropbox?
[17:57] <ali1234> SopaXorzTaker: yes
[17:58] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, also, it uses harmonic power as a DAC
[17:58] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, so, try detecting 49.75M
[17:58] <shauno> msev-: in my case, just mysql on my nas
[17:59] <msev-> oh, what about my idea would that work too :)
[17:59] <msev-> if I don't care if that cloud provider reads my temperatures and stuff
[17:59] <msev-> :D
[17:59] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, it is a frequency modulator
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[17:59] <shauno> that'd work too. there's stuff like adafruit.io that exist exactly for such tasks
[18:00] <msev-> i'm gonna make my own with node-red
[18:00] <msev-> :)
[18:00] <msev-> its really easy visual "programming"
[18:00] <msev-> but yeah adafruit IO is an option too
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[18:03] <ali1234> SopaXorzTaker: i am getting something
[18:03] <ali1234> a high pitched noise. no picture
[18:04] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, what channel 're you on?
[18:04] <ali1234> 49.75
[18:04] <SopaXorzTaker> is your set NTSC?
[18:05] <SopaXorzTaker> what are you using as a TV?
[18:05] <ali1234> a bt878. it does PAL/NTSC/SECAM
[18:05] <SopaXorzTaker> try tuning to 25/50Mhz with core_freq line removed
[18:06] <SopaXorzTaker> it ill produce a 100%-out-of-spec signal
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[18:06] <SopaXorzTaker> but it might receive something
[18:06] <SopaXorzTaker> and make sure it's PAL or SECAM
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[18:07] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, ^
[18:07] <ali1234> i can't tune below 44MHz
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[18:08] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, so, reset the core_freq to 250 and tune to 50M
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[18:10] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, so you can tune to 50MHz
[18:10] <ali1234> that makes a really loud noise
[18:10] <ali1234> but still no picture
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[18:11] <Stavros_> Is there an OS that boots the Pi straight into SSH server mode? I've just received mine and, like the big dumb dummy that I am, don't actually have any way of connecting a monitor to it directly :P
[18:11] <ali1234> sounds like a helicopter
[18:11] <t3chguy> Stavros_: Raspbian defaults to have a running sshd
[18:11] <t3chguy> Stavros_: also, which RPi?
[18:11] <Stavros_> 2B
[18:11] <t3chguy> yeah, Raspbian is the simplest way to go
[18:11] <t3chguy> Grab Jessie if you want X and a Desktop
[18:11] <t3chguy> or Jessie Lite for a CLI-only environment
[18:11] <t3chguy> (you can always install X etc later)
[18:12] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, try pal->ntsc->secam
[18:12] <SopaXorzTaker> maybe it doesn't like it
[18:12] <SopaXorzTaker> my local test with rtl-sdr showed the carrier presence
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[18:13] <Stavros_> Which Raspbian image would you suggest for a 2gb SD card? (Guess who also didn't have any suitable SD cards available :P)
[18:14] <t3chguy> Stavros_: Lite is Liter xP
[18:14] <Stavros_> Guessing Jessie Light, if any, of the official images
[18:14] <t3chguy> (Lighter)
[18:14] <t3chguy> yeah
[18:14] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, ^
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[18:14] <t3chguy> SopaXorzTaker: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=127060
[18:14] <t3chguy> whoops
[18:14] <t3chguy> wrong tag
[18:14] <t3chguy> Stavros_: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=127060 - says 2GB should be enough
[18:14] <pksato> 1458569216 2015-11-21 19:32 2015-11-21-raspbian-jessie-lite.img
[18:15] <pksato> 1.5GB.
[18:15] <Stavros_> Cheers guys
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[18:15] <t3chguy> lol pksato - all my images are custom ones which I stupidly didn't truncate and had a full userspace filesystem for - so yay for 32G Raspbian Lite images
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[18:16] <Stavros_> Another question, unrelated: howcome I can't find any Pi cases with inbuilt power supplies - i.e. plug style cases?
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[18:16] <t3chguy> Stavros_: Power supplies tend to dissipate heat
[18:16] <t3chguy> Raspberry Pi stays cool as it can dissipate its own heat
[18:16] <t3chguy> adding more heat into a confined space isn't ideal
[18:17] <ali1234> SopaXorzTaker: i've got a PAL decoder graph for rtl-sdr somewhere, let me try to fire it up
[18:17] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, mind sharing it?
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[18:17] <ali1234> if it can find it i'll paste it
[18:18] <pksato> case like used on SheevaPlug?
[18:18] <Stavros_> Yep
[18:18] <Stavros_> And obviously heat is a concern, but I wouldn't imagine it would be unmanagable with something as low-power as the Pi
[18:19] <t3chguy> Stavros_: the Pi is low power
[18:19] <t3chguy> but peripherals often aren't
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[18:19] <t3chguy> throw WiFi in and you're looking at doubling your current draw
[18:19] <Stavros_> Interesting
[18:20] <pksato> get 3D printer and make one. :)
[18:20] <Stavros_> hehe, not that rich :p
[18:20] <Stavros_> I can always model one and find someone who'll print it for me though
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[18:21] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, so?
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[18:22] <ali1234> found it
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[18:22] <ali1234> need to fix it though
[18:22] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, please send it to me
[18:22] <SopaXorzTaker> I want to tinker
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[18:24] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, ping
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[18:26] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, ping2
[18:26] <ali1234> could oyu not do that please?
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[18:27] <SopaXorzTaker> sorry
[18:27] <SopaXorzTaker> I like to ping people
[18:27] <SopaXorzTaker> gives me a fake sense of people doing this faster
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[18:28] <shauno> (personally, I tend to do things slower if I keep sidetracking to find out why my client is beeping)
[18:29] <Stavros_> haha
[18:29] <ali1234> hmm wait a minute rtl-sdr doesn't go below 52MHz
[18:30] <shauno> you sure? I thought mine was 20-ish
[18:30] <ali1234> i think it depends on model
[18:30] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, so can I have the flowchart file?
[18:30] <ali1234> you can disable the limit
[18:30] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, you have a E4000
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[18:30] <Stavros_> t3chguy: Any ideas on how a complete dunce (namely I) could get a rough estimate of the heat generated by power supply + pi + wifi antenna, short of duct taping them all together and slapping a thermometer on there? :)
[18:31] <shauno> yeah, seems it's 52 for elonics. 24 for R82xT and 22 for FC001x
[18:31] <ali1234> the grc is too big to paste
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[18:31] <ali1234> bbiab
[18:32] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, to pastebin?
[18:32] <SopaXorzTaker> or to hastebin
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[18:34] <t3chguy> Stavros_: ask a specialist in Thermodynamics :P?
[18:35] <t3chguy> or look at datasheets for max dissipation
[18:35] <Stavros_> Lacking a specialist in thermodynamics, I think I'll google this max dissipation thing :D
[18:35] <IT_Sean> Stavros_: Check the wattage on your power supply. The heat generated 'll be less than that.
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[18:39] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, ?
[18:40] <Stavros_> Thanks IT_Sean, will do.
[18:40] <IT_Sean> A device cannot radiate more energy than it's consuming without violating the laws of physics. Remember that.
[18:41] <Stavros_> You say that, but in this one epioside of Star Trek TNG.... :p
[18:41] <IT_Sean> That's different. StarTrek TNG takes place in the future! The laws of physics have been rewritten.
[18:42] <Stavros_> hahaha, oh my god what a brilliant excuse; I'm going to have to steal it
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[18:42] * IT_Sean has read the ST:TNG Technical Manual cover to cover several times. Is probably qualified to attend StarFleet Acadamy at this point
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[18:44] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: whats the fight?
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[18:44] <Tenkawa> t3chguy:
[18:44] <Tenkawa> oops
[18:44] <Stavros_> Gotta admit I did experience a mild envy blackout when I saw the guy who'd used his Pi to create a TNG UI themed car computer
[18:45] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: just overwrote some of the boot stuff with a bad update
[18:45] <t3chguy> lol
[18:45] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: I did something similarly stupid
[18:45] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: fixing it now.. just takes time
[18:45] <t3chguy> I ran rpi-update on my OTG-only accessibly Pi
[18:45] <t3chguy> I forgot BRANCH=next
[18:45] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: apt/dpkg did it.. not me
[18:45] <t3chguy> so it effectively rolled back my kernel
[18:45] <Tenkawa> I forgot to put in an override though
[18:46] <Tenkawa> so oops
[18:46] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, hey
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[18:47] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: you gave me a good idea though, thanks..
[18:47] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: I should probably alias rpi-update to BRANCH=next rpi-update :P
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[18:48] <Tenkawa> here we go....
[18:49] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: you used your Zero as an OTG Gadget much?
[18:49] <Tenkawa> this should be "interesting"
[18:49] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: no.. was going to try to start that later today
[18:49] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: I have a guide if you want to see it
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[18:49] <Tenkawa> I need to get it and my 2 olinuxino boxes working otg properly
[18:50] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: thanks
[18:51] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: https://bit.ovh/2016/01/31/Raspberry-Pi-Zero-Gadget-Mode/
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[18:52] <Tenkawa> hmmm that boot is looking better
[18:52] <Tenkawa> I'll know shortly i think
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[18:56] <dersand> I have a question, but not only related to raspberry pis. In a network, does a hostname need to be unique? I think i have read somewhere that a hostname needs to be unique in a network. I have two rasberry with both pi@raspberrypi, would there be a conflict?
[18:57] <DWKnight> only when trying to resolve the device by name
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[18:58] <DrJ> dersand: change the hostname
[18:58] <dersand> What about username, or the pre "@"-part?
[18:58] <Tenkawa> every computer i touch today seems to dislike me
[18:58] <DrJ> doesn't matter if username is the same on multiple devices
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[18:59] <pksato> dersand: not need to be unique.
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[18:59] <pksato> but, some protocol like SMB/CIFs and other need a unique name.
[18:59] * BurtyB has 5 pi on the same network with the same hostname set - it works ok for me
[19:00] <dersand> Alright, so the identifier should be inside the hostname?
[19:00] <DrJ> if I had 5 pis I'd have them like rasp1, rasp2, etc
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[19:01] <pksato> and, auto dns update and others can be confused.
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[19:05] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, hey
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[19:06] <Tenkawa> can the pi zero debian image do otg-network?
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[19:08] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: otg-network, you mean g_ether?
[19:08] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: read my damn guide xP
[19:08] <t3chguy> it says what to do to upgrade your kernel so it has the g_ modules (USB Gadget [OTG])
[19:08] <t3chguy> https://bit.ovh/2016/01/31/Raspberry-Pi-Zero-Gadget-Mode/
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[19:12] <pelthomas> Hi all
[19:13] <pelthomas> Does someone got slow download rate with Edimax 78-11Un Wifi dongle ?
[19:14] <DWKnight> how slow you talking and from where?
[19:14] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: i havent been at my screen to read
[19:14] <t3chguy> fair enough
[19:14] <pelthomas> DWKnight: Stuck at 55Kb/s
[19:15] <pelthomas> DWKnight: From my home network (2 hosts)
[19:15] <DWKnight> fishtank in the way?
[19:15] <DWKnight> (you'd laugh but big enough fish tanks CAN block wifi
[19:15] <pelthomas> DWKnight: I'm using 8192cu driver and I was wondering if the root cause was the driver..
[19:15] <Kryczek> pelthomas: what kind of download?
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[19:16] <pelthomas> Kryczek: System updates via package manager or direct downloads through websites
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[19:17] <pelthomas> Kryczek: I'm using Raspberry Pi 2
[19:17] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, hey
[19:17] <SopaXorzTaker> ali1234, hey
[19:17] <Kryczek> pelthomas: on what channel?
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[19:17] <traeak> hay is for horses
[19:18] <ali1234> SopaXorzTaker: here you go http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/rtl2832/tv/
[19:18] <pelthomas> Kryczek: I can't remember how to see what channel i'm using
[19:18] <DWKnight> iwconfig usually
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[19:18] <DWKnight> or the wireless access point's configuration panel
[19:18] <pelthomas> Of course, I tried ip a and ifconfig
[19:19] <pelthomas> There is no information concerning the channel with iwconfig..
[19:19] <Kryczek> pelthomas: frequency
[19:20] <pelthomas> Kryczek: 2.4GHz
[19:20] <Kryczek> all of it
[19:20] <pelthomas> Kryczek: 2.462GHz more precisely
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[19:20] <Kryczek> that's channel 11, as you can see on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels
[19:20] <pelthomas> Kryczek: And the mode is Managed (it means set by the router ?)
[19:20] <Kryczek> that should be fine
[19:21] <Kryczek> no, Managed means it's client to an Access Point (the router)
[19:21] <Kryczek> as opposed to Ad-Hoc for example or Master (an access point itself)
[19:21] <pelthomas> Kryczek: Ok, btw I've got another computer which use channel 11 too and it's wifi is very well
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[19:22] <pelthomas> Kryczek: So the root cause isn't the channel in my case
[19:22] <Kryczek> pelthomas: `sudo apt-get install speedtest-cli`
[19:22] <Kryczek> no channel 11 should be fine
[19:23] <pelthomas> Kryczek: Well, hope it's light because of my poor download rate
[19:23] <Kryczek> yes it's very small :)
[19:24] <pelthomas> Kryczek: Indeed, but it fails while trying to launch : Failed to parse list of speedtest.net servers
[19:24] <pelthomas> Kryczek: sudo speedtest-cli
[19:24] <Kryczek> no need for sudo on this one
[19:25] <pelthomas> Kryczek: It fails anyway
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[19:26] <Kryczek> yeah here too :( usually it works
[19:26] <pelthomas> Kryczek: Seems curious
[19:26] <Kryczek> no, they probably just changed the format of the server list or something
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[19:27] <W1nt3rmut3> greetings fellow humans
[19:30] <Encrypt> Hi W1nt3rmut3
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[19:31] <W1nt3rmut3> how are you guys/gals?
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[19:32] <pelthomas> W1nt3rmut3: Fine, what about u ?
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[19:33] <W1nt3rmut3> im good pelthomas
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[19:35] <Tenkawa> heh I really need some kind of hdmi to notebook display adapter
[19:36] <Tenkawa> doing this with no video console is just uggh
[19:37] <W1nt3rmut3> thats rough Tenkawa
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[19:37] <W1nt3rmut3> whats yalls opinion on the adafruit kits?
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[19:38] <Tenkawa> any particular one/type of kits?
[19:39] <W1nt3rmut3> just in general, quality wise
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[19:42] <Tenkawa> cant say personally
[19:43] <pelthomas> Why does my Edimax wifi adapter is stuck at 56kB/s ?
[19:43] <pelthomas> I'm desperate
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[19:45] <Tenkawa> interesting
[19:45] <Tenkawa> I'm getting dwc_otg errorrs
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[19:45] <Tenkawa> going to need to do something about that
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[19:58] <willmore> pelthomas, wifi problems are often power problems.
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[19:58] <pelthomas> willmore: Sure but the problem should be the same for all Raspberry Pi 2 though right N
[19:58] <pelthomas> ?
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[19:59] <willmore> pelthomas, probably.
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[20:00] <willmore> The power circuitry on the B+ and 2 is pretty much the same. The A and B older boards had a much poorer setup.
[20:00] <willmore> Sorry, I have to run. Good luck!
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[20:01] <heller_> what about A?
[20:01] <heller_> A+
[20:02] <heller_> and B+ and 2 have different power circuits
[20:02] <heller_> 2 takes less power because of that
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[20:02] <heller_> and can bee booted with Xenon flash
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[20:03] <pelthomas> willmore thanks
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[20:13] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: why not get a USB/Serial adapter?
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[20:13] <t3chguy> also Tenkawa , you can fully prepare a "Network-OTG" MicroSD Card without a Zero, just using a different machine
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[20:14] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: my cable broke yesterday (the pin one I was using on my non zeros)
[20:14] <Tenkawa> and I know...
[20:15] <Tenkawa> everything i've touched today has just not worked
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[20:16] <Tenkawa> been that kind of day
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[20:21] <Tenkawa> well thats better...
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[20:21] <Tenkawa> now I just need to figure out why the network wont come u
[20:21] <Tenkawa> ;
[20:21] <Tenkawa> er up
[20:22] <Tenkawa> it booted this time yay
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[20:24] <Tenkawa> oooh
[20:24] <Tenkawa> firmware
[20:24] <Jidoor> so i just tried using omxplayer, does it really show the desktop in background without setting the --blank flag when starting or is that a problem with my setup?
[20:25] <Jidoor> every video player i ever used has blacked out the screen in fullscreen
[20:26] <Tenkawa> here goes another test
[20:26] <t3chguy> Jidoor: omxplayer isn't like other players
[20:26] <t3chguy> it doesn't utilise your window manager etc
[20:26] <t3chguy> it writes straight to the framebuffer (ish)
[20:26] <t3chguy> which can be great for overlaying video on top of things
[20:27] <t3chguy> and doesn't write where it doesn't cover, and therefore there's a blank flag, for it to blank the rest of the screen
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[20:30] <Jidoor> that very relevant flag isn't even listed here http://elinux.org/Omxplayer
[20:30] <Jidoor> only found it one some github page
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[20:32] <Jidoor> but its very cool how i can control it with ssh from terminal of another computer
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[20:32] <t3chguy> Jidoor: it is a very useful program
[20:32] <t3chguy> back when I used it, I had best performance with it
[20:32] <t3chguy> and...it's happy streaming from youtube using youtube-dl to pass it the urls
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[20:34] <Jidoor> yea did a quick google about vlc on raspi where i found out omxplayer is the only hardware accelerated player
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[20:34] <Jidoor> so there's really no alternative for heavy HD files i think
[20:34] <t3chguy> Jidoor: next time, don't rely on the web manuals
[20:34] <t3chguy> try `omxplayer --help | grep blank`
[20:35] <t3chguy> it shows that --blank is a thing
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[20:35] <t3chguy> or `man omxplayer`
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[20:35] <t3chguy> the web one you found is most likely just outdated
[20:36] <Jidoor> well there's almost no command line options so i just assume they dont think they are that important
[20:36] <t3chguy> Jidoor: they're not important at all :P
[20:36] <t3chguy> it works if you just pass it a file or url to play
[20:37] <Jidoor> well i can't watch a movie when it's showing my desktop instead of black letterbox bars :P
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[20:37] <t3chguy> Jidoor: define an alias in your .bashrc, `alias omxplayer=omxplayer --blank`
[20:37] <t3chguy> then you can forget about it :P
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[20:39] <Jidoor> not a problem anymore just annoying when you gotta spend time googling whenever you do anything new
[20:39] <t3chguy> Jidoor: man > Googol
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[20:48] <NedScott> hmm
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[20:49] <r0kka> got ZNC running om my raspberry pi2 \o/ hello everyone!
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[20:51] <Stavros_> cool
[20:51] <Stavros_> didn't even know irc bouncers were a thing
[20:51] <t3chguy> lol
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[20:51] <t3chguy> Stavros_: think so many people leave their PCs on 24/7 xP?
[20:51] <Stavros_> ...Well I do :p
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> I usually do.
[20:52] <t3chguy> I offload everything that would normally make me leave it on onto a server
[20:52] <SoloBSD> Hi, I have a question:
[20:52] <t3chguy> SoloBSD: shoot
[20:52] <SoloBSD> I am using my RPi2 with Raspbian and a WiFi Dongle
[20:52] <SoloBSD> TP-Link one
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[20:53] <SoloBSD> powering with my tablet's power sup
[20:53] <SoloBSD> it is 5.2V at something like 2.3 amp
[20:53] <SoloBSD> don't remember well
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[20:54] <SoloBSD> I start playing around with Scratch and minutes after, it reboots
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[20:54] <malec> Hey everyone ! New raspberry pi user here
[20:54] <SoloBSD> I don't know if it is the power source or Raspbian
[20:54] <SoloBSD> Hi malec
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[20:55] <SoloBSD> I will try to let it work with MusicBox and see if it reboots
[20:55] <NedScott> so I got a ribbon cable that I need to extend, but in a really slim manner
[20:55] <SoloBSD> I think maybe the WiFi dongle needs more power or something like that
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[20:56] <NedScott> I wonder if I could just press two cables together...
[20:57] <NedScott> heat it up slightly for the plastic to stick from one to the other, while it's tightly pressed together
[20:57] <NedScott> probably not
[20:57] <t3chguy> SoloBSD: if you want to give it more power you have two choices
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[20:57] <t3chguy> SoloBSD: Powered USB Hub, and https://projects.drogon.net/testing-setting-the-usb-current-limiter-on-the-raspberry-pi-b/
[20:58] <NedScott> this is the best I can find, and there's not enough room for the connector: http://g03.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1t9IBJpXXXXbTXpXXq6xXFXXX9/30pcs-lot-DIY-Modified-Highlight-Version-font-b-SP-b-font-font-b-LCD-b-font.jpg
[20:58] <t3chguy> ]
[20:58] <NedScott> (something like that, not that exact one)
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[20:58] <SoloBSD> ok, lemme check
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[20:58] <t3chguy> NedScott: smallest way would be the most painful, individually soldering and shrinkwrapping
[20:59] <NedScott> I'm not sure it would survive soldering
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[20:59] <t3chguy> what pitch?
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[20:59] <NedScott> it's like metallic paste on plastic paper
[20:59] <t3chguy> oh is it like the style on cheap matrix keypads?
[20:59] <NedScott> yeah
[20:59] <t3chguy> I have no ideas on the properties of that
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[21:00] <NedScott> there's some wire glues out there that might work, but it's a really tight area
[21:00] <NedScott> 40 pin
[21:00] <NedScott> it's basically the same as this: https://www.adafruit.com/products/1680
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[21:00] <t3chguy> using conductive ink between two of them could be good
[21:00] <Macgyver0> is there a simple Rpi cam server that just provides mjpeg or something? I have convoluted motion setup but doesn't work well. Wanted some compatibility with tinycam monitor/etc
[21:01] <t3chguy> thats really high density pitch :/
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[21:01] <NedScott> I've bought another 40 pin one for cheap on ebay, taking a risk that it would be compatible, and it had a longer ribbon
[21:01] <NedScott> but it didn't match
[21:01] <NedScott> at least for the driver board that I'm using
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[21:02] <NedScott> trying to fit that LCD in the top part of a gameboy DSi XL case
[21:02] <NedScott> very little room
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[21:03] <NedScott> I have to shave some of the internal wall already for the connectors on the ribbon :)
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[21:04] <t3chguy> NedScott: those aren't ribbons by the way
[21:04] <t3chguy> they're often known as flat flex cables
[21:04] <ali1234> NedScott: you could try with solder paste
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[21:05] <NedScott> well, the definition of a ribbon cable is kind of broad
[21:05] <ali1234> there isn't much you can do with flat flex cables
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[21:06] <t3chguy> NedScott: I pointed it out in case `flat flex` yields you better search results
[21:06] <NedScott> ah, good point
[21:06] <NedScott> thanks
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[21:07] <Stavros_> How to install packages to USB instead of SD card?
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[21:09] <NedScott> well, something out there exists, a machine or technique, for soldering them to an actual PCB
[21:10] <NedScott> it stands to reason that it should be possible to extend it as well
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[21:12] <dewp> hey guys. i'm experimenting with a hall sensor and a magnet. i'm calculating acceleration and velocity. but now I am testing with a drill machine and the results get weird with fast rotations
[21:13] <dewp> it could be avoided with hight bounce times for the interrupt but i want it as precise as possible
[21:13] <dewp> so what can I so here?
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[21:17] <M3mphiZ> Anyone who can tell me which USB LTE stick works out of the box for a Raspberry Pi 2? With out of the box i mean u plug it in and you get a wwan0 interface right away. no modeswitch etc needed.
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[21:21] <Jusii> is it enough if you can disable the cdrom emulation mode?
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[21:22] <DWKnight> too many of them require the modeswitch because of how they provide drivers M3mphiZ
[21:22] <Jusii> I've used tens of different USB 3/4G sticks and all of them need modeswitch
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[21:23] <Jusii> but many times you can disable it with at commands, so no need for modeswitch after that
[21:23] <M3mphiZ> i got a huawei e3372s-153 which is in hilink mode and i cant get it to downgrade to a non hilink version
[21:23] <Jusii> I actuall prefer hilink versions
[21:23] <M3mphiZ> ive seen threads about zte usb sticks though which they said dont need modeswitch and work ootb
[21:24] <Jusii> they've proven to be more reliable than the 'normal' ones
[21:24] <Jusii> no need for custom watchdog script to keep it running
[21:24] <Jusii> and it just works after plugging it in
[21:24] <M3mphiZ> Jusii: yeah but how do i operate my pi with hilink mode? when its plugged in and i browse to "" it shows connected. but if i ping google it pings the ip address
[21:24] <Jusii> ofcourse you have to configure it once and save / disable pn code
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[21:25] <Jusii> hmm, haven't seen that problem
[21:26] <M3mphiZ> u mind if i pm you?
[21:26] <Jusii> please, continue here
[21:26] <M3mphiZ> ok
[21:26] <M3mphiZ> let me boot it up real quick
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[21:28] <M3mphiZ> Jusii: OK so ifconfig shows enx0c5b8f279a64 as the device name
[21:28] <M3mphiZ> Jusii: with a ip address set to
[21:29] <M3mphiZ> Jusii: now if i go to it shows connected 4G
[21:29] <Jusii> sounds normal I think, the stick has .1
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[21:30] <Jusii> and it should route all traffic
[21:30] <plm> Are there any optimization of opencv on pi2 (armv7) compared with pi1(armv6)?
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[21:30] <M3mphiZ> Jusii: LOOOL IRC magic just happened..
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[21:30] <Jusii> unfortunately I dont have any hilink modems at home
[21:30] <Jusii> great
[21:31] <M3mphiZ> Jusii: everyting working as expected... i cant believe it
[21:31] <pelthomas> t3chguy omxplayer can display a movie I've got on my computer to my Raspberry Pi ?
[21:31] <Jusii> I've had those hilink stick running for months without problems
[21:32] <M3mphiZ> well aweseome, i dont know what changed but for some reason its online right away after booting
[21:32] <Jusii> but with the 'normal' ones, had to make rather complex watchdog script
[21:32] <t3chguy> no pelthomas
[21:32] <t3chguy> unless you set up a network share first
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[21:32] <t3chguy> or transfer the file
[21:32] <pelthomas> Ok so beautiful to be real
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[21:34] <plm> And, has opencv optimization for GPU of Raspberrypi?
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[21:35] <M3mphiZ> Jusii: is there a way to get a port forwarded to the pi?
[21:35] <t3chguy> M3mphiZ: yes
[21:35] <M3mphiZ> t3chguy: using a hilink lte stick?
[21:36] <t3chguy> M3mphiZ: it'd need to be via a reverse tunnel
[21:36] <t3chguy> the port would need to be made available on a VPS or similar
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[21:36] <t3chguy> on regular LTE networks you share an IP with a LOT of users, so you don't get control of inbound
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[21:37] <M3mphiZ> t3chguy: ok so i would need to get the pi to connect to me. is there a tutorial on that?
[21:37] <t3chguy> M3mphiZ: just open a regular SSH Session from the Pi to a computer you can port forward to, and then use SSH Port Forwarding to make one of the Pi's ports available at the other end
[21:37] <Jusii> ssh reverse tunnel, autossh and openvpn
[21:38] <M3mphiZ> oh i see
[21:38] <t3chguy> then use something like iptables to bridge foreign port with forwarded (pi) port
[21:39] <M3mphiZ> ok here comes the tricky scenario :)
[21:39] <M3mphiZ> I would like to have a SSH session into the pi where the pi is connected via the lte stick and my laptop is connected via my phones shared internet.. possible?
[21:40] <M3mphiZ> from what you guys said i guess thats tricky because both would be on LTE network
[21:41] <t3chguy> M3mphiZ: you'd need a common ground
[21:41] <M3mphiZ> ok so i need a server in the middle they both connect to
[21:41] <t3chguy> a device connected to the internet where you have control of ports
[21:41] <t3chguy> yeah
[21:41] <t3chguy> a cheap VPS would do
[21:41] <t3chguy> or another pi at home
[21:41] <M3mphiZ> the pi connects and forwards its port 22 and the laptop connects to the server and forwards the forwarded port to itself?
[21:41] <t3chguy> Exactly
[21:41] <t3chguy> or even
[21:42] <t3chguy> Pi connects to "Server"
[21:42] <t3chguy> forwards :22 to remove :2222
[21:42] <t3chguy> "Server" bridges internal :2222 to external :2222
[21:42] <t3chguy> Laptop connects to "Server":2222
[21:42] <t3chguy> less encapsulation that way
[21:42] <M3mphiZ> sounds good
[21:42] <M3mphiZ> and where would i have to put the bash script on the pi to do this once booted?
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[21:43] <t3chguy> /etc/rc.local
[21:43] <t3chguy> if you're to use autossh put it there
[21:43] <M3mphiZ> as the hilink auto connects can i be sure to be after that?
[21:43] <t3chguy> but i prefer writing a SystemD service for it
[21:43] <t3chguy> M3mphiZ: create a SystemD job thats triggered by the connection?
[21:43] <M3mphiZ> i havent used either before
[21:44] <M3mphiZ> SystemD jobs can react to stuff like that? cool.
[21:44] <t3chguy> I'd assume so#
[21:44] <t3chguy> autossh can probably keep attempting to connect
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[21:44] <t3chguy> so you could just run autossh and it'll keep trying until it succeeds when the link is up
[21:44] <M3mphiZ> ah ok
[21:44] <t3chguy> #LazyMethod
[21:45] <M3mphiZ> i guess ill try that now :)
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[21:45] <M3mphiZ> thannks for all the help so far!
[21:45] <t3chguy> no probs
[21:45] <t3chguy> currently sat near my laptop cutting foam
[21:45] <t3chguy> not exactly riveting
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[21:46] <M3mphiZ> lol
[21:46] <t3chguy> not randomly mind you
[21:46] <t3chguy> fitting foam into my component storage
[21:46] <t3chguy> to lessen the rattle of hundreds of electrolytic capacitors
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[21:49] <M3mphiZ> t3chguy: bit rusty here with the ssh forward. ssh -R 22:localhost:2222 server?
[21:49] <t3chguy> M3mphiZ: I can never remember whether L/R (Local/Remote) references the target or destination port
[21:49] <M3mphiZ> yeah me neither :D
[21:50] <t3chguy> I think you want -L
[21:50] <t3chguy> actually no
[21:50] <M3mphiZ> t3chguy: ill just try it but how to i achieve ""Server" bridges internal :2222 to external :2222"? I got a ubuntuserver running
[21:50] <t3chguy> -R
[21:50] <t3chguy> dammit xD
[21:50] <M3mphiZ> :D
[21:50] <t3chguy> -L brings a port to you
[21:51] <t3chguy> -R sends your port away
[21:51] <t3chguy> easiest non-ambigous way I can explain it
[21:51] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
[21:51] <t3chguy> so you had it right I believe
[21:51] <t3chguy> and M3mphiZ use iptables
[21:51] <t3chguy> or actually
[21:51] <t3chguy> even easier
[21:51] <t3chguy> the command
[21:51] <t3chguy> change localhost
[21:51] <t3chguy> to your server's external IP
[21:51] <t3chguy> then no "bridging" is needed
[21:52] <t3chguy> as ssh will simply open a port on the external interface
[21:52] <M3mphiZ> hostname works too?
[21:52] <t3chguy> if it resolves, yes
[21:52] <Jusii> -g is your friend as option
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[21:52] <M3mphiZ> -g?
[21:52] <Jusii> "-g Allows remote hosts to connect to local forwarded ports."
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[21:56] <Jusii> actually -g I think works only with -L forwading
[21:56] <t3chguy> yeah thats what I was just thinking
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[21:57] <t3chguy> wait crap
[21:57] <Jusii> this might be helpful though http://serverfault.com/questions/379344/selecting-interface-for-ssh-port-forwarding
[21:57] <t3chguy> we need -L forwarding
[21:57] <t3chguy> nope
[21:57] <t3chguy> okay
[21:57] <t3chguy> I think
[21:57] <t3chguy> I need a /mute
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[21:57] <M3mphiZ> :D
[21:57] <Jusii> no, -R ist correct one
[21:57] <t3chguy> because I can't think straight
[21:57] <Jusii> -R for Remote
[21:57] <t3chguy> yeah, I need sleep
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[21:58] <M3mphiZ> i got the following now: connecting from pi over lte to server using: ssh -R 22:hostname:2222 user@hostname -p sshPort
[21:58] <M3mphiZ> asnd i guess once i exposed 2222 to the web i just need to ssh user@hostname -p 2222 from the laptop?
[21:59] <t3chguy> in theory
[21:59] <M3mphiZ> well i guess at least theoretically it works ;)
[21:59] <M3mphiZ> lets see
[21:59] <M3mphiZ> brb
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[22:02] <valize> Not a pi question, if i have a usb with the mountpoint of /dev/sda, how can i change to that directory?
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[22:02] <t3chguy> valize: thats not a mountpoint
[22:02] <t3chguy> thats a device
[22:02] <t3chguy> you need to mount it
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[22:03] <valize> t3chguy, is it mounted if it's in "df -h"?
[22:03] <sir_galahad_ad> mount /dev/sda /mount/somedirectory
[22:03] <t3chguy> yes valize
[22:03] <t3chguy> `df -h`'s right most column is the mountpoint
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[22:03] <valize> ahaa, got'cha
[22:03] <t3chguy> "Mounted on"
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[22:05] <M3mphiZ> t3chguy: warning remote port forwarding failed for listen port 22
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[22:08] <Jusii> maybe you have mixed the ports
[22:08] <Jusii> remoteport:host:localport
[22:08] <M3mphiZ> oh yeah
[22:09] <M3mphiZ> i thought which port i want to forward first then where to go
[22:09] <Jusii> yeah
[22:09] <mlelstv> what are you trying to do?
[22:09] <Jusii> but it's always: from:host:to
[22:09] <Jusii> for both -L and -R
[22:09] <t3chguy> mlelstv: bridge two LTE connections via a common server
[22:10] <Jusii> so with -R first is remote port and with -L first is local port, from-to
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[22:10] <mlelstv> LTE meaning NAT ?
[22:11] <M3mphiZ> LTE meaning mobile internet
[22:11] <mlelstv> well, that can be anything
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[22:12] <M3mphiZ> t3chguy: ok so first win
[22:12] <mlelstv> mobile1 -----LTE----- common server on the internet -----LTE----- mobile2 ? And then ?
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[22:13] <M3mphiZ> if i use localhost and connect from the pi to the server. i can ssh to localhost on the server and connect back to the pi. the hostname stuff doesnt seem to work to make it bridge it to public. i do have a firewall where i exposed the port but it doesnt connect.
[22:13] <M3mphiZ> t3chguy: how does that iptables approach work?
[22:14] <t3chguy> M3mphiZ: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/111433/iptables-redirect-outside-requests-to-127-0-0-1
[22:14] <M3mphiZ> mlelstv: its pi -> lte -> server <- lte <- laptop
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[22:15] <M3mphiZ> t3chguy: on the other hand i dont even have to make it public
[22:15] <t3chguy> you don't
[22:15] <M3mphiZ> t3chguy: i can just ssh into the server and ssh from there to the pi
[22:15] <t3chguy> but its SSH, its secure enough xP
[22:15] <M3mphiZ> well didnt we all think that until the heartbleed bug? :D
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[22:16] <M3mphiZ> or did it not affect ssh keys? i dont remember anymore
[22:16] <mlelstv> m3mphiz, and then? how do you want to use that?
[22:17] <t3chguy> mlelstv: it'll be SSH or SSH+SSH, so security won't differ much
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[22:18] <mlelstv> I don't see what he wants to do with it. You can ssh to the comment server, and then?
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[22:18] <mlelstv> Bridge both networks?
[22:18] <mlelstv> which layer?
[22:18] <t3chguy> mlelstv: access the remote Pi...
[22:18] <t3chguy> you can't listen on LTE ports, as you don't have a whole LTE IP Address to yourself
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[22:18] <M3mphiZ> mlelstv: i just want to be able to ssh into the pi. as lte networks dont allow opening ports i need a common server
[22:18] <t3chguy> so you need to reverse tunnel your SSH Port to a middleman to be able to reach it
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[22:21] <jancoow> Hi. Is it possible to feed the raspberry pi zero ethernet and a serial port over 1 usb cable?
[22:21] <t3chguy> Yes jancoow
[22:21] <t3chguy> g_multi
[22:21] <jancoow> WOW that fast answer haha
[22:21] <t3chguy> but without a custom driver it won't work with Windows
[22:22] <jancoow> like 3 seconds :D
[22:22] <t3chguy> it'll work perfectly with Linux
[22:22] <t3chguy> well I do it personally
[22:22] <jancoow> yeah no probs, i'm on linux
[22:22] <M3mphiZ> t3chguy: the man! :D
[22:22] <t3chguy> also jancoow, do you use the AdaFruit kernel build or?
[22:22] <mlelstv> on the pi ssh -g -R 22:localhost:2222 user@server, on the laptop ssh -p 2222 user@server
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[22:22] <jancoow> t3chguy: currently installed raspbian
[22:23] <mlelstv> or:
[22:23] <mlelstv> sorry
[22:23] <t3chguy> jancoow: I mean for your kernel
[22:23] <mlelstv> on the pi ssh -g -R 22:server:2222 user@server, on the laptop ssh -p 2222 user@server
[22:23] <t3chguy> did you compile it yourself, or use Adafruit's tgz or?
[22:23] <mlelstv> or:
[22:24] <jancoow> doesn't have a custom kernel, used the one deliverd with raspbian
[22:24] <mlelstv> ssh -R 22:localhost:2222 user@server, on the laptop ssh -L 2222:localhost:2222 user@server. And then on the laptop ssh -p 2222 user@localhost
[22:24] <t3chguy> jancoow: did you use rpi-update to update yourself to the next branch or have they finally put it in the master branch?
[22:24] <t3chguy> jancoow: regardless, I was just going to point you to my post https://bit.ovh/2016/01/31/Raspberry-Pi-Zero-Gadget-Mode/ - but it looks like you're doing it the right way already
[22:25] <jancoow> t3chguy: THANKS!
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[22:25] <jancoow> t3chguy: will try that in a minut :). g_ether is ethernet and dwc2 is ?
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[22:26] <t3chguy> dwc2 is simply the USB Driver that supports OTG
[22:26] <t3chguy> it was required, maybe kernel changes have made it not required anymore
[22:26] <t3chguy> haven't looked at recent changes
[22:26] <jancoow> thanks, and i have to change g_ether to g_mutli for both ethernet as serial port?
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[22:27] <jancoow> well, maybe is only ethernet enoufh because i can ssh into it :/
[22:27] <t3chguy> g_multi is Ethernet, Serial and Mass Storage
[22:27] <t3chguy> you will have to enable systemctl forwarding to the correct Serial port
[22:28] <t3chguy> sudo systemctl enable getty@ttyGS0.service
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[22:29] <jancoow> ah, a new getty on the specific port i think?
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[22:31] <t3chguy> jancoow: could you tell me the output of `cat /boot/.firmware_revision`
[22:31] <t3chguy> I'm curious as to what kernel version you're on
[22:31] <meiamsome> M3mphiZ: I set up a similar system recently, used the ability for ssh to forward to unix ports, "ssh -R /path/to/socket:localhost:22 host" and then you can run an ssh to that server and ncat the unix port and run an ssh over that connection. I think that's better as you don't have to listen on any new ports, but that's just one way to do it
[22:32] <t3chguy> jancoow: as well as `uname -a` please
[22:32] <M3mphiZ> meiamsome: thanks for the info. ill definetly give it a try!
[22:32] <jancoow> t3chguy: uname -r says 4.1.14+
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[22:32] <t3chguy> meiamsome: neat, wasn't aware it worked with unix sockets
[22:32] <t3chguy> jancoow: weird, thats old as hell
[22:32] <t3chguy> I'm on 4.4.0 xD
[22:33] <jancoow> welll....
[22:33] <jancoow> this is a really old sd card i think ;p
[22:33] <jancoow> used a while for my quadcopter
[22:33] <t3chguy> I'm shocked it has otg modules
[22:33] <meiamsome> M3mphiZ: I could upload my script and the .ssh/config I did to set it up, lets me access devices by a simple ssh to <device hostname>.<mydomain>, which is pretty useful
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[22:34] <jancoow> well, didn't test it yet. Will do it in some minuts
[22:34] <t3chguy> OH jancoow xD
[22:34] <t3chguy> it won't
[22:34] <t3chguy> jancoow: feel free to follow my tutorial
[22:34] <t3chguy> jancoow: if you want to just use g_ether and g_serial (without g_mass_storage) as g_multi has, there's a sneaky one that I use
[22:34] <t3chguy> called g_cdc
[22:35] <jancoow> mass_storage is fine, but thanks, will write that down! :D
[22:35] <jancoow> (or maybe put in your tutorial?)
[22:35] <t3chguy> I will end up putting a list of common ones
[22:35] <t3chguy> once it hits the mainstream kernel
[22:35] <Tenkawa> which one?
[22:35] <valize> So, i got ssh-access to my pi, and i'm to lazy to plug in the keyboard so i installed matchbox-keyboard. The onscreen keyboard. But when i "sudo matchbox-keyboard" nothing shows up on the pi.
[22:36] <t3chguy> but its still only on the `next` branch, which is considered even more dev and test than default rpi-update one
[22:36] <Tenkawa> ahh
[22:36] <t3chguy> valize: you might need to use DISPLAY=0
[22:36] <Tenkawa> they are in 4.5-rc yay
[22:36] <valize> t3chguy, Sorry?
[22:37] <valize> I mean as no program GUI opens on the pi if i do it through SSH.
[22:37] <t3chguy> valize: if you run a command over SSH that tries to connect to an x display, then it'll most likely fail or do nothing if it doesn't have a display to work upon
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[22:37] <jancoow> t3chguy: how much mb is the kernel from the next branch?
[22:37] <t3chguy> jancoow: looks like 49.2M
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[22:38] <jancoow> fuck. out of space
[22:38] <jancoow> woops, sorry for my language
[22:38] <t3chguy> jancoow: yeah language :/
[22:38] <valize> t3chguy, it's connected to a monitor, if that's what you ask.
[22:39] <t3chguy> valize: you're running a command in SSH
[22:39] <t3chguy> x can have many virtual displays
[22:39] <t3chguy> the one on your monitor, is likely Display:0
[22:39] <t3chguy> the command you're running in ssh has no idea you want it to be shown on Display:0
[22:39] <t3chguy> try `sudo DISPLAY=0 matchbox-keyboard`
[22:40] <Tenkawa> and depending if X11 forwarding is turned on at the sshd level it could be interrupted by that too
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[22:40] <t3chguy> only if the client requests it though, right?
[22:40] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: and some security stuff
[22:40] <Tenkawa> cant remember the details
[22:41] <Tenkawa> I "think" you have to call it with a request though like you said however the ssh client parameters could be setting it by default too
[22:41] <valize> It did not work
[22:42] <Tenkawa> ssh_config and sshd_config gets odd
[22:42] <Tenkawa> valize: which did you try?
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[22:42] <t3chguy> valize: try it again but with DISPLAY=:0.0 instead of DISPLAY=0
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[22:42] <Tenkawa> yeah use 0:0
[22:42] <t3chguy> it should have been :0 anyways xP
[22:42] <t3chguy> #I-never-use-X
[22:42] <Tenkawa> heheheeh
[22:43] <Tenkawa> I only do when i have to
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[22:43] <Tenkawa> I was sad when svgalib stopped being used
[22:43] <valize> sudo DISPLAY=:0.0 matchbox-keyboard &
[22:43] <valize> No protocol specified
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[22:43] <Tenkawa> valize: try this
[22:44] <Tenkawa> export DISPLAY=localhost:0
[22:44] <Tenkawa> sudo command
[22:44] <gordonDrogon> sudo make me a sandwich ...
[22:44] <Tenkawa> no ampersand
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[22:44] <Tenkawa> I want to see if it complains immediately
[22:44] <t3chguy> valize found an article, it says "DISPLAY=:0.0 matchbox-keyboard"
[22:44] <t3chguy> valize: http://ozzmaker.com/virtual-keyboard-for-the-raspberry-pi/
[22:45] <Tenkawa> thats fine... this is for testing
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[22:46] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: you could do something similar
[22:46] <t3chguy> with your Pi-controlled oven
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[22:46] <t3chguy> though something a bit more fun than a sandwich
[22:46] <dersand> I've gotten som crazy net issues
[22:46] <dersand> i'm valize.
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[22:46] <Tenkawa> valize: also why are you sudo'ing the keyboard? don't you want to use it as your user
[22:47] <t3chguy> valize: see http://ozzmaker.com/virtual-keyboard-for-the-raspberry-pi/
[22:47] <Tenkawa> if you have X runnig and are logged in why sudo it
[22:47] <Tenkawa> ?
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[22:48] <Tenkawa> dersand: any luck?
[22:49] <dersand> I tried it without sudo
[22:49] <dersand> nothing
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[22:49] <Tenkawa> did you see my export and such?
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[22:49] <Tenkawa> or did your irc client disconnect you before I posted it?
[22:49] <dersand> Yeah, export DISPLAY=localhost:0; matchbox-keyboard
[22:49] <dersand> ?
[22:49] <Tenkawa> yeah
[22:50] <Tenkawa> and you just get the protocol error?
[22:50] <dersand> No errors
[22:50] <dersand> No gui when i ran that
[22:51] <Tenkawa> does the command prompt hang or come back?
[22:51] <dersand> prompt is getting back
[22:51] <Tenkawa> commandline rather
[22:51] <Tenkawa> hmmmmm
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[22:51] <Tenkawa> does ps auxwww | grep -i matchbox show anything?
[22:51] <dersand> auxwww? aux*?
[22:51] <Tenkawa> auxwww
[22:52] <dersand> grep --color=auto is the exception right?
[22:52] <Tenkawa> more w to for width... each w shows a certain width of chars
[22:52] <Tenkawa> yeah
[22:52] <Tenkawa> any hits?
[22:52] <dersand> Nothing except the query
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[22:53] <Tenkawa> I dont have a graphical box handy to try it here
[22:53] <Tenkawa> out of curiosity
[22:53] <Tenkawa> if you run xterm from that commandline does it work?
[22:53] <dersand> xterm?
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[22:54] <Tenkawa> or try xwininfo
[22:54] <dersand> pi@raspberrypi:~ $ xwininfo
[22:54] <dersand> xwininfo: error: unable to open display "localhost:0"
[22:54] <Tenkawa> interesting....
[22:54] <Tenkawa> thats useful
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[22:55] <Tenkawa> you "are" in X on that machine right?
[22:55] <Tenkawa> its runnig
[22:55] <Tenkawa> er running
[22:55] <Tenkawa> ps auxwww | grep -i xorg
[22:55] <dersand> Huh?
[22:55] <Tenkawa> the xserver is running right"
[22:55] <Tenkawa> er
[22:55] <Tenkawa> ?
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[22:56] <dersand> nothing except the query on that ps aux
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[22:56] <Tenkawa> sounds like X isnt running at all
[22:56] <Tenkawa> run startx as as a non root user
[22:57] <Tenkawa> what happens
[22:57] <dersand> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[22:57] <Tenkawa> ahh
[22:57] <Tenkawa> x was definitely not running
[22:57] <Tenkawa> sudo service xdm start
[22:57] <dersand> Failed to restart xdm.service: Unit xdm.service failed to load: No such file or directory.
[22:58] <dersand> I'm on raspbian jessie (kernel 4.1)
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[22:58] <jancoow> t3chguy: updated with your bash script, now rebooting (and changed ether in multi)
[22:58] <t3chguy> jancoow: g_multi won't work without configuration of g_mass_storage
[22:58] <Tenkawa> I cant remember which one is installed by default
[22:58] <Tenkawa> it might be gdm
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[22:58] <dersand> not gdm either
[22:59] <Tenkawa> anyone know which one raspbian (i assume you are using raspbian) uses?
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[22:59] <dersand> since i've owned a pi for 24 hours, maybe a good 'ol apt-get update?=
[22:59] <Tenkawa> apt-get install xdm
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[23:00] <Tenkawa> then repeat that service command if it doesnt auto start
[23:00] <t3chguy> jancoow: if it doesn't work, use `dmesg` to confirm that it is that
[23:00] <jancoow> looks like it doesnt boot anymore
[23:01] <t3chguy> jancoow: paste your config.txt?
[23:01] <gordonDrogon> t3chguy, I just want simple buttons on my oven controller...
[23:01] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: fair enough
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> t3chguy, however my plan is to have an overall control Pi - with a touch screen running a touch application - so I touck oven No .1 and I can set the temp, oven no 2, then the fridge, and anything else I put on it. Each device with its own Pi acting more or less autonomously from the master controller - ie. once given a task, it gets on with it.
[23:02] <Tenkawa> dersand: is it installing?
[23:02] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: neat idea
[23:02] <dersand> Tenkawa, stuck inside apt-get upgrade, will execute in a while
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[23:02] <Tenkawa> ahhh
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> the master display polling the devices for data like temperature, etc. also acting as a monitor - oven Pi dead, ring the alarm, etc.
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> master program written in BASIC of-course :-)
[23:03] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: xD
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[23:03] <gordonDrogon> first I need to make my BASIC tcp/ip aware ... tricky in basic, but not impossible...
[23:03] <Tenkawa> uggh getting cold
[23:03] <Tenkawa> it was 64F here today
[23:04] <Tenkawa> it was nice!!
[23:04] <gordonDrogon> throw another Pi on the first.
[23:04] <gordonDrogon> *fire.
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[23:05] <jancoow> t3chguy: this is what happening on my desktop pc https://jancokock.me/f/ee6a0
[23:06] <t3chguy> jancoow: is the pi not booting? if so, send your config.txt over
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[23:06] <jancoow> well im not sure, activity ligth is going off for a while after powering it so i assume its booting,
[23:07] <t3chguy> how were you using the pi earlier if you weren't using OTG o_O?
[23:07] <jancoow> wifi dongel ;p
[23:07] <t3chguy> ah xD
[23:07] <t3chguy> well its probably booted
[23:07] <t3chguy> but as I said
[23:07] <t3chguy> g_multi won't work off the get go
[23:07] <t3chguy> I suggest
[23:07] <t3chguy> you pull the SD
[23:07] <t3chguy> stick it in your machine
[23:08] <t3chguy> mount the main parition
[23:08] <t3chguy> edit /etc/modules
[23:08] <jancoow> yeah, exactly what i'm doing right now :D
[23:08] <t3chguy> and change g_multi to g_cdc
[23:08] <t3chguy> it requires no configuration
[23:08] <t3chguy> the only config it takes is MAC Addresses for the virtual ethernet interface it creates, but thats optional, its random if not specified
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[23:10] <jancoow> yeah, now its created a ethernet device
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[23:10] <t3chguy> woo!
[23:10] <jancoow> ;p
[23:10] <t3chguy> jancoow: if you ran my bash script, it should configure it for DHCP
[23:10] <t3chguy> so just use "Internet Sharing" on your linux machine
[23:10] <t3chguy> and it'll do some DHCP-like thing
[23:10] <t3chguy> to connect the Pi to the net
[23:10] <Tenkawa> sounds like slirp from way back when
[23:11] <Tenkawa> anyone remember it?
[23:11] <t3chguy> and then you can use `arp -a` to find its IP, or just `ssh pi@raspberrypi.local`
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[23:11] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: it was released before I was born xD
[23:11] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[23:11] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: well i did say i've been around a while
[23:11] <Tenkawa> haahaaa
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[23:12] <Tenkawa> eql load balancing
[23:12] <Tenkawa> now that was something
[23:12] <Tenkawa> haahaa
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[23:12] <dersand> jesus it's been 10 minutes, can i have my prompt back?
[23:12] <Tenkawa> multiple modem lines aggregating bandwidth
[23:13] <Tenkawa> dersand: apt-get upgrade can take a long time if its many packages behind
[23:13] <dersand> neat
[23:13] <Tenkawa> dist-upgrade can take even longer
[23:13] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: it can take a long time regardless on a pi
[23:13] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: runs nice and smooth on mine
[23:13] <Tenkawa> even my zero
[23:13] <Tenkawa> the pi2's fly
[23:13] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: not like painfully slow
[23:13] <t3chguy> but slow in comparison to what I'm used to
[23:14] <Tenkawa> true
[23:14] <t3chguy> (60 core server, near instant)
[23:14] <Tenkawa> compared to a pc/server
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[23:16] <stinky180> so i finally installed django and got it running
[23:16] <stinky180> i can acess the django website within the raspberry pi using localhost:8000
[23:17] <stinky180> however, if i try to access it from somewhere within the network using the raspberry pi's lan IP, nothing happens
[23:17] <t3chguy> stinky180: tell django to bind to your LAN Address rather than `localhost`
[23:17] <stinky180> let me give that a shot
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[23:19] <jancoow> t3chguy: i'm not totally getting it work. Gnome ethernet panels says that the cable isn't connected. I put it on shared to othert networks
[23:19] <t3chguy> jancoow: well the other way of doing it is
[23:19] <t3chguy> static IPs
[23:19] <t3chguy> I had issues with Internet Sharing on KDE for a while
[23:19] <t3chguy> its very /Weird/
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[23:20] <t3chguy> jancoow: is the iface detected by your computer in ifconfig?
[23:20] <jancoow> it looks like the pi freeses or something, activity light is staying on. Yes, it's detected as enp0s20u1
[23:20] <jancoow> there is also a ttyACMO0
[23:20] <jancoow> ttyACM0 *
[23:20] <t3chguy> jancoow: try `screen /dev/ttyACM0 115200`
[23:20] <t3chguy> actually
[23:20] <t3chguy> did you enable the getty?
[23:21] <jancoow> nope not yet, i already tried screen ;p
[23:21] <t3chguy> ah
[23:21] <t3chguy> its `sudo systemctl enable getty@ttyGS0.service`
[23:21] <jancoow> if i can login somehow on the pi :/
[23:21] <stinky180> t3chguy: It worked! thanks a bunch!
[23:21] <t3chguy> jancoow: stick power into the Pi using the other port
[23:21] <t3chguy> then unplug OTG
[23:21] <t3chguy> and stick your wifi back in
[23:22] <jancoow> would that work? or do i need to disable modules?
[23:22] <traeak> that's what she said
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[23:22] <jancoow> HA
[23:22] <t3chguy> jancoow: I'm not quite sure
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[23:22] <t3chguy> I'd expect the kernel to notice the OTG Pin being triggered
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[23:22] <t3chguy> and switch back to USB Master (from Slave)
[23:22] <jancoow> well let's see :)
[23:23] <jancoow> otherwise i plug the sd card in my pc and edit the modules again
[23:23] <t3chguy> I'm pretty sure I did it at one point
[23:23] <t3chguy> but instead of wifi, plugging in a Logitech tranceiver
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[23:24] <M3mphiZ> t3chguy: i didnt use the pi in a while but with the latest kali image, do you know why all my usb wifi or lte sticks get a weird device id? at least for the wifi stick it used to be wlan0 now its some random string
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[23:25] <t3chguy> M3mphiZ: never used Kali on Pi or LTE, hell I don't even use WiFi xP
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[23:25] <t3chguy> oh M3mphiZ
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[23:25] <t3chguy> that sounds like Systemd
[23:25] <t3chguy> it changed the format
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[23:25] <t3chguy> M3mphiZ: does `wlp2s0` look similar?
[23:25] <t3chguy> or `enp3s0`
[23:25] <M3mphiZ> ethernet for example sometimes shows up as eth0 but sometimes as enxb827ebb4bd31
[23:25] <t3chguy> weird that it sometimes does one sometimes the other
[23:26] <M3mphiZ> wifi used to be wlan0 now its wlx00c0ca735d81
[23:26] <t3chguy> M3mphiZ: you got systemd on that build?
[23:26] <t3chguy> those naming schemes sound systemd-esque
[23:26] <M3mphiZ> systemd is insalled yes
[23:26] <t3chguy> M3mphiZ: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[23:27] <Dex-Freudii> Is there a way to rotate 180 degrees the screen? (touch display) I need the power cable to be connected from "above"
[23:27] <M3mphiZ> t3chguy: cool ill give it a try, thx
[23:27] <Tenkawa> bbl,
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[23:27] <dersand> ok i regret doing this fucking upgrade
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[23:28] <t3chguy> dersand: language - see channel rules
[23:28] <jancoow> ugh, wifi doesn't work anymore. Commented all the modules out. Hopefully it will at least work now
[23:28] <jancoow> yay, it's online
[23:28] <t3chguy> wooo
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[23:29] <t3chguy> o_O
[23:29] <t3chguy> I just got an automated email from a legacy system which should have been shut down weeks ago
[23:29] <jancoow> systemctl on raspbian? xD
[23:30] <t3chguy> jancoow: Jessie uses systemd, so yeah
[23:30] <t3chguy> sudo systemctl enable getty@ttyGS0.service
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[23:30] <jancoow> well, mines use service
[23:31] <t3chguy> service is a part of systemd too
[23:31] <t3chguy> I think systemctl and service are synonymous
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[23:31] <jancoow> lol, i doesn't have systemctl haha
[23:31] <t3chguy> what weird Raspbian have you got o_O
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[23:35] <jancoow> well, i put "T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyGS0 115200 vt100" in /etc/inittab, should work i think (hope)
[23:36] <t3chguy> I've no idea
[23:36] <t3chguy> I've become lazy
[23:36] <t3chguy> and trusted systemd to make it work
[23:36] <jancoow> well, i'm a arch user so me to :D
[23:37] <t3chguy> :P
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[23:38] <Stavros_> Anyone using dietpi?
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[23:40] <jancoow> NICE serial works
[23:40] <SoloBSD> what's that?
[23:40] <t3chguy> jancoow: woooo
[23:40] <t3chguy> now you can configure your iface
[23:40] <t3chguy> and get network connection sharing working
[23:40] <jancoow> indeed :)
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[23:41] <t3chguy> jancoow: if you have time, could you test your max file transfer speed (over scp or samba or whatever) over local network or an internet download over Ethernet-OTG?
[23:41] <jancoow> sure, but maybe not today
[23:41] <t3chguy> no problem
[23:41] <t3chguy> just want data from different people
[23:41] <t3chguy> to get more of a picture
[23:41] <jancoow> you have helped me a lot, so this could be my return :D
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[23:41] <t3chguy> :P
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[23:43] <t3chguy> jancoow: I'm just trying to figure out whether you're able to get higher speeds over OTG than over the Ethernet on other Pis
[23:43] <t3chguy> in theory it could be possible, as the overhead of ethernet is much later on
[23:43] <t3chguy> and the OTG Host could be a desktop capable of GigE etc
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[23:44] <t3chguy> so in *theory* you could pull better network performance over OTG, if the kernel drivers on both sides are optimized properly
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[23:44] <ali1234> should work
[23:44] <t3chguy> ali1234: ?
[23:45] <ali1234> ethernet has very little overhead
[23:45] <ali1234> you should be able to use the full usb bandwidth
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[23:47] <t3chguy> ali1234: in both cases, OTG and the usb/ethernet on board the pi b+ for instance?
[23:47] <BurtyB> t3chguy, I assume you mean usb gadget/device mode rather than otg? in which case I've had 104Mbit/s out of it using iperf
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[23:49] <t3chguy> BurtyB: correct, bit tired atm
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[23:49] <t3chguy> That's decent speed
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[23:49] <t3chguy> The pi b+ is hardware limited to 100mbps right?
[23:49] <t3chguy> Due to the 10/100 ethernet chip
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[23:50] <DWKnight> the ethernet chips in the regular boards are all 10/100 only
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[23:50] <DWKnight> usb 2.0 attached was the logic
[23:50] <t3chguy> So BurtyB confirms my theory. Woo!
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[23:50] <t3chguy> Not a huge improvement. But an improvement nevertheless
[23:51] <ali1234> remember than USB is half duplex and you need to deal with TCP ACKs
[23:51] <ali1234> 104Mbit/s is quite a big improvement after you account for that stuff
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[23:51] <t3chguy> Good point
[23:52] <t3chguy> I'll be doing some of my own testing eventually
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[23:52] <t3chguy> And appending it to my blog post
[23:52] <SoloBSD> please post the url
[23:53] <ali1234> i get 94.2 Mbits/sec to a Pi 2 on ethernet
[23:54] <ali1234> with iperf
[23:54] <t3chguy> SoloBSD: of
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[23:54] <SoloBSD> your blog
[23:54] <t3chguy> ali1234: that test is a little unnecessary, as it is limited by the bottlecap in the pi2
[23:54] <t3chguy> SoloBSD: https://bit.ovh
[23:55] <Valduare> hmm what would someone need with this now of days? :P http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asante-10T-Hub-LOT-OF-2-/121705177874?hash=item1c5631a312:g:-WQAAOSwNSxVdd6u
[23:55] <t3chguy> Pi zero thing should be top post
[23:55] <SoloBSD> thanks
[23:55] <ali1234> i would expect g_ether to get upwards of 300Mbit/s if the Pi had a decent CPU and USB hardware
[23:56] <ali1234> (in a simple test like iperf that is)
[23:56] <t3chguy> SoloBSD: thanks for the follow
[23:56] <SoloBSD> welcome
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[23:57] <t3chguy> ali1234: it's still a very good solution, g_ether is perfect for clustering :P
[23:57] <ali1234> eh.
[23:57] <t3chguy> ali1234: Wat?
[23:57] <t3chguy> Better than an ethernet hub
[23:58] <ali1234> you could just use serial
[23:58] <ali1234> i don't think it matters really
[23:58] <t3chguy> Yeah, you could
[23:58] <t3chguy> Depends on the task
[23:58] <ali1234> if you just want to simulate a networked cluster then it's fine
[23:59] <ali1234> in my application the nodes have no reason to talk to each other
[23:59] <t3chguy> But it's good to have a decent bandwidth throughout connection that doesn't need to messed with for tcp/ip
[23:59] <t3chguy> ali1234: what is your application?
[23:59] <jancoow> finally got it working; was missing a package on my desktop for enabling the shared network
[23:59] <jancoow> will do some speed tests now
[23:59] <t3chguy> jancoow: awesome
[23:59] * Mikelevel (~MoVeWoRk@unaffiliated/mikelevel) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[23:59] <jancoow> u are

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