#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2016-02-04

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[0:01] <jancoow> ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[0:01] <jancoow> [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 99.5 MBytes 83.4 Mbits/sec
[0:01] <jancoow> that are mine speeds :)
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[0:02] <t3chguy> jancoow: alright, slightly the other way but still decent
[0:02] <ali1234> t3chguy: pretty much take 8 floats, compare them to each row in a 8x8192 array, return the best match index
[0:02] <t3chguy> ali1234: for what realworld application or scenario?
[0:02] <t3chguy> or just because you can :P?
[0:02] <ali1234> cleaning degraded binary signals
[0:03] <ali1234> i think my gpu might be faster anyway
[0:03] <jancoow> t3chguy: what are other test results?
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[0:05] <ali1234> t3chguy: you can think of it like this: take an 8 bit grey image with only black or white pixels and apply a gaussian blur around 5 pixels wide. now figure out what the original pixels were
[0:06] <t3chguy> jancoow: BurtyB got 104Mbit/s
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[0:10] <jancoow> depends on what test i think
[0:11] <jancoow> i used iperf
[0:11] <t3chguy> jancoow: as did BurtyB
[0:11] <t3chguy> jancoow: "t3chguy, I assume you mean usb gadget/device mode rather than otg? in which case I've had 104Mbit/s out of it using iperf"
[0:11] <jancoow> anyways, i've to go to bed now :) While other students on school have to suffer with a pi A i can be cool with a zero with only 1 cable :D
[0:12] <jancoow> ah
[0:12] <jancoow> well that's strange
[0:13] <ali1234> you can use this stuff on an A+ as well
[0:13] <jancoow> anyways, good nigth and thanks for the help!.
[0:13] <ali1234> just make a male-male cable
[0:13] <jancoow> ali1234: shouldnt be possible?
[0:13] <ali1234> works fine, i've done it
[0:14] <jancoow> what i red was that the otg wasn't soldered to the power plug
[0:14] <jancoow> readed*
[0:14] <jancoow> wow..
[0:14] <ali1234> you use the other USB port
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[0:32] <BurtyB> t3chguy, just reran the tests with a bit more info if you're interested (http://pastebin.com/BpLeG5PR) I can't quite get the 104Mbit/s today (I'm streaming tv via the non-pi test box atm so that might be why)
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[0:37] <warpie> well that's like 6 times faster than what I get
[0:38] <BurtyB> :/
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[0:39] <warpie> I get 15 down and 1 up
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[0:41] <BurtyB> what are you testing from?
[0:42] <warpie> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5055707526
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[0:43] <RoBo_V> Guys which is latest kernel we can upgrad to, using RPiB+ and raspbian
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[0:44] <BurtyB> warpie, that's going to be testing your internet connection - I was using iperf between the Pi Zero and the router box it was connected to via USB
[0:44] <warpie> I see.. ok
[0:45] <warpie> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5055711155
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[0:50] <warpie> which iperf ver. you using?
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[1:12] <BurtyB> warpie, 2.0.8 (router) 2.0.5 (pi zero)
[1:19] <Valduare> how are you liking the pi zero
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[1:33] <dyce> hmm pi3 or pi2+ coming out this month?
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[1:34] <dyce> or is it all about the zero
[1:35] <Valduare> wonder what the pi10 will be like
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[1:36] <dyce> hopefully by then ARM will be standardized like x86
[1:36] <dyce> install from any usb key
[1:37] <abnormal> pi ten??? lol
[1:37] <Valduare> wonder what iphone 10 will be like for that matter :P
[1:37] <BurtyB> "standardized like x86" so you mean not at all?
[1:38] <abnormal> lol, prolly like an old 8088 puter
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[1:58] <GlaikitGowk> Hi, I've just got my first pi (pi 1 model B) I'm having trouble setting up raspian. I just bought a new mcroSD card (64gig) and an adapter. it doesn't seem to be being recognised. is this a known problem?
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[2:00] <methuzla> GlaikitGowk describe how you flashed the image to the card
[2:02] <GlaikitGowk> I used an old card reader to put the lite version of noobs on it, then I unzipped the file and removed the zip file. (I did exactly the same thing with a normal SD card, but that only had 4 gig on it so it wasn't big enough)
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[2:03] <abnormal> GlaikitGowk: ok, one thing: the SD card is too big... they only handle 32 gb.
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[2:05] <GlaikitGowk> Ah! I suspected as much. It doesn't even flash green when I turn it on. Goldilocks and the three bears. One card to small, now this one's too big. Thanks M & A!
[2:05] <GlaikitGowk> So, another few days before I get to play with it.
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[2:06] <abnormal> sorry
[2:07] <methuzla> i thought raspbian lite fit on 4g?
[2:07] <abnormal> one thing to do, is get on raspberrypi.org and study the board's specs and OS's and it's limits...
[2:07] <GlaikitGowk> it fits on, but needs 4.3 to install.
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[2:07] <Valduare> time to run to nearby radioshack heh
[2:08] <Valduare> they are actually not too bad on price for sd cards
[2:08] <abnormal> I have raspbian on 2gb SD cards
[2:08] <GlaikitGowk> there are a couple of pages about removing office from raspian.
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[2:09] <GlaikitGowk> It's the latest edition of NOOBS that has the extra memory requirements.
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[2:10] <GlaikitGowk> I did look about for an older edition that woud fit, but not too hard. I just thought I'd get a bigger card and seemingly I've gone overboard!
[2:10] <abnormal> I think you can get into github site and download the older versions of raspbian
[2:10] <Valduare> lol
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[2:10] <Valduare> just take scisors and trim off about 32 gigs worth on the edge of the sd card that should do it :)
[2:11] <Valduare> joking of course :)
[2:11] <abnormal> sillie...
[2:11] <GlaikitGowk> I'll check out github! (I'm a coder who's only just dipping my feet into the github world)
[2:11] <methuzla> http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian/images/
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[2:12] <methuzla> if you must
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[2:12] <GlaikitGowk> Which side do I trim the memory from? Haha
[2:12] <abnormal> lol, don't even think about it
[2:12] <methuzla> the heavier end
[2:12] <methuzla> that's where the higher bits are
[2:13] <abnormal> don't do it... use it on a camera or another computer
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[2:14] <GlaikitGowk> I'll find a use for it!
[2:15] <abnormal> good boy
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[2:18] <Valduare> can always use it in a usb adapter in the pi
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[2:23] <abnormal> yes, as storage only
[2:23] <abnormal> like an external hard drive
[2:23] <abnormal> ty, Valduare
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[2:25] <abnormal> that was a good point, Valduare
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[2:26] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
[2:27] <GlaikitGowk> Thanks all! I may well use it for external storage once I get my head around its workings.
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[2:30] <atamisk> Kind-of Rpi related: I want to use my RPi to serve a localhost web page that can be used to control an ESP 8266 controller. I have a backend written, but what would be the best frontend?
[2:30] <atamisk> (backend is in Java)
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[2:31] <GreeningGalaxy> can anyone tell me how to run a command when x starts? I need to issue an xinput command to fix the touchscreen mapping, and so far nothing has worked
[2:31] <GreeningGalaxy> ive tried .xprofile, .xsession, .xinitrc, and /etc/rc.local
[2:32] <GreeningGalaxy> using i3 with startx
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[2:39] <GreeningGalaxy> .xinitrc is behaving really weirdly. it's launching i3, but totally ignoring anything else I put in the file.
[2:39] <atamisk> is the stuff after the i3 command?
[2:40] <GreeningGalaxy> yes
[2:40] <atamisk> then those commands don't run until after i3 is finished
[2:41] <GreeningGalaxy> oh.
[2:41] <atamisk> you can do it using an ampersand after the i3 command, but i can't remember how to keep the shell running until i3 completes that way. gimme a sec
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[2:44] <GreeningGalaxy> that makes sense
[2:44] <GreeningGalaxy> and it looks like it's doing what I wanted it to do now
[2:46] <GreeningGalaxy> touchscreen mapping is nightmarish
[2:46] <atamisk> ah good, because i was floundering lol
[2:47] <atamisk> yeah if you've got it working (presumably by issuing the command prior to i3) then you're set.
[2:47] <atamisk> and yes, yes it is.
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[2:48] <GreeningGalaxy> annnd whoops. Looks like I get to find out what happens when the SD card gets pulled when you're booted. :X
[2:48] <GreeningGalaxy> I forgot the socket was clicky :(
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[2:49] <Valduare> lol
[2:49] <atamisk> lol, just issue a poweroff command. It'll take.
[2:49] <Valduare> somewhere a fairy looses its wings whenever an sd card is ejected
[2:49] <atamisk> then reinsert the card and hope it wasn't in the middle of a write when yu pulled it :P
[2:49] <GreeningGalaxy> nope, everything is "command not found" because the thing holding /usr/bin is no longer readable
[2:50] <GreeningGalaxy> on the plus side, it's most certainly not writing right now.
[2:50] <atamisk> That's okay, I've removed a booted SATA drive from my main PC before (hotswap bay)
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[2:50] <atamisk> true lol
[2:50] <GreeningGalaxy> whew, it starts back up
[2:51] <GreeningGalaxy> I really need a case for this thing
[2:53] <Valduare> nice thing with the pi zero the sd slot is not clicky
[2:53] <sir_galahad_ad> no?
[2:53] <atamisk> I kinda want a zero, but I can't justify getting a third pi lol
[2:53] <GreeningGalaxy> heh, same boat for me
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[2:54] <GreeningGalaxy> I have my model B and my pi2, no need for a zero
[2:55] <atamisk> Same boat here.
[2:55] <GreeningGalaxy> plus I don't really have the hardware to work with a zero right now. Nearest HDMI is in the building lobby, I only have one keyboard, and it sucks.
[2:55] <Valduare> always use more
[2:55] <atamisk> what do you use 'em for?
[2:55] <Valduare> I got a combo wifi/bluetooth dongle for my pi0
[2:55] <Valduare> and a bluetooth keyboard/touchpad combo
[2:55] <sir_galahad_ad> i will buy a couple zeroes once they not so hard to find any more. 'til then i have a B and a B+
[2:56] <Valduare> im going to pick up a pi2 for a nagios server
[2:56] <GreeningGalaxy> B is a combination server/wifi access point, 2 is currently a bulletin-board-mounted music player but working on more
[2:56] <atamisk> yeah, I'm not gonna lie, i'd love to transfer my miniserver over to a Zero. If only it wasn't armv7.
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[2:57] <atamisk> My B is an openvpn server (GOD it's nice) and home automation. B2 is a tablet.
[2:57] <GreeningGalaxy> 2 things you need for a pi zero: wifi adapter that fits in a micro USB port, custom Kali image. Plug it in, it finds wifi, automatically cracks it, then emails you its IP.
[2:58] <GreeningGalaxy> why is armv7 a drawback?
[2:58] <atamisk> Cracks wpa?
[2:58] <Valduare> lack of armv7
[2:58] <atamisk> GreeningGalaxy: server image is v6
[2:58] <GreeningGalaxy> ah
[2:58] <GreeningGalaxy> IIRC aircrack-ng can do wpa, but it would probably take weeks on a pi zero, lol
[2:59] <Valduare> good news
[2:59] <Valduare> the pi zero uses such low power requirements it could last on a battery for weeks :P
[2:59] <Valduare> haha
[2:59] <sir_galahad_ad> what battery Valduare?
[2:59] <GreeningGalaxy> well that's perfect then
[2:59] <atamisk> true, plus at 1GHz it might not take as long as you think
[3:00] <GreeningGalaxy> although i imagine you'd have to double or triple baseline power when you're constantly intercepting/injecting packets, lol
[3:00] <Valduare> if you kill hdmi and some other stuff i’ve read reports of dropping a stock pi0 down to 35ma
[3:00] <sir_galahad_ad> could i concievably leave one running on my car battery indefinitely?
[3:00] <Valduare> ya
[3:00] <sir_galahad_ad> oooh
[3:00] <GreeningGalaxy> you could probably do that with a pi2, couldn't you?
[3:00] <GreeningGalaxy> car batteries are big
[3:00] * atamisk is now reeeeeeally interested
[3:01] <atamisk> Poor man's remote start...hmm...
[3:01] <Valduare> I have Trojan t105 batteries that are 225 amp hours each
[3:01] <GreeningGalaxy> although 35 mA is a lot more indefinite than 10x that.
[3:01] <Valduare> 6 volt battery 225 amp hours
[3:01] <Valduare> charge it up once a year haha
[3:01] <atamisk> remember to add losses for voltage regulation!
[3:01] <sir_galahad_ad> hmmmm
[3:02] <GreeningGalaxy> better yet, I bet you could keep it running with a solar panel the size of the top of a car battery
[3:02] <Valduare> I have one of those too
[3:02] <Valduare> 10 watt solar panel
[3:02] <sir_galahad_ad> i have just the solar panel to do that too
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[3:02] <GreeningGalaxy> seal the whole works up in a box with a clear lid, truly indefinite operation
[3:02] <Valduare> and a little 45 watt solar charge controller to go with it.
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[3:03] <GreeningGalaxy> enough solar panel to break even on cloudy days, and enough battery to survive a year of darkness
[3:03] <sir_galahad_ad> what if i don't disable hdmi?
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[3:04] <Valduare> think the pi0 is what 120ma or so with everything going not including wifi
[3:04] <Valduare> keyboard and mouse etc.
[3:04] <sir_galahad_ad> ok
[3:04] <atamisk> your only limitation would be the eventual degradation of the actual battery. Could extend it to tens of years by adding an occasional discharge into the charging scheme.
[3:05] <GreeningGalaxy> was there a particular rationale for not including wifi on the pi's board? dongles are so small and cheap these days, it doesn't seem like it would've been a significant price/complexity hike.
[3:05] <Valduare> not everyone needs wifi
[3:05] <sir_galahad_ad> GreeningGalaxy: last i heard the 'foundation' said it would be
[3:05] <GreeningGalaxy> not everyone needs HDMI or composite video either
[3:06] <Valduare> nope but those are included in the chip
[3:06] <Valduare> if I remember right
[3:06] <Valduare> system on a chip, so basically the pcb is just breaking the chip out to the connectors is all
[3:06] <GreeningGalaxy> if it's planned that makes sense
[3:07] <GreeningGalaxy> the other obstacle that seems obvious to me is heating, my dongles get pretty toasty from continuous operation
[3:07] <GreeningGalaxy> ....uh, innuendo not intended?
[3:07] <sir_galahad_ad> ...
[3:07] <GreeningGalaxy> :|
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[3:07] <atamisk> :/
[3:09] <Valduare> heh
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[3:09] <GreeningGalaxy> i'd almost started saying "adapter" instead of "dongle" but then somebody here said it and I relapsed.
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[3:15] <Valduare> kinda sucks just having one pi heh
[3:15] <Valduare> dont want to delegate it to a task cause then I wont have a pi to tinker with heh
[3:15] <GreeningGalaxy> thats how I felt too
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[3:16] <sir_galahad_ad> buy another
[3:16] <abnormal> or buy less
[3:16] <GreeningGalaxy> although now I have two that are tinkerable in different ways (one has a display, one does not) so I still have that problem
[3:16] <GreeningGalaxy> #firstworldproblems
[3:17] <sir_galahad_ad> don't need a display
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[3:17] <GreeningGalaxy> I like my display
[3:17] <sir_galahad_ad> wifi dongle + ssh that way you're not linked to a display when you wanna move the pi
[3:17] <GreeningGalaxy> finally can use my pi without the help of any other computers or TVs
[3:18] <GreeningGalaxy> well, this is a pitft, so portability isn't an issue
[3:18] <NedScott> I wonder if anyone will bring to market a 3.5 or 4 inch DPI GPIO screen
[3:18] <NedScott> make use of the GPU
[3:19] <GreeningGalaxy> I wouldn't mind a 3.5 DSI with a GPIO breakout connector to sit on
[3:19] <Valduare> did you see this GreeningGalaxy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Wp9AfILYE you said you had a pi0?
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[3:19] <GreeningGalaxy> no, I said I hadn't gotten one yet since I wouldn't have much use for it now
[3:20] <Valduare> ah
[3:20] <NedScott> the DPI board from adafruit works pretty nice with the cheap 5inch LCDs out there
[3:20] <NedScott> though, you can get those same LCDs with an HDMI interface for about $25 on ebay
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[3:21] <Valduare> i seen a company that makes a 1u rackmount for the raspberry pi it has a 1” x 10” wide tft screen mounted in the front of the 1u
[3:21] <GreeningGalaxy> yeh, the pitft wasn't cheap. 44 USD, more than the pi under it.
[3:22] <NedScott> did you buy the adafruit one?
[3:22] <GreeningGalaxy> yeah
[3:22] <NedScott> that's why :D
[3:22] <NedScott> some stuff from adafruit is well priced, but those... not so much, IMO
[3:22] <NedScott> the ones on ebay are much cheaper
[3:22] <GreeningGalaxy> I would kinda have preferred to get it without touch. resistive is kinda lame, and I don't need it.
[3:22] <NedScott> yeah
[3:22] <GreeningGalaxy> but the only one they sold without touch was the tiniest one that was only as a kit, so...
[3:23] <NedScott> removing the touch layer also improves the picture quality a bit
[3:23] <GreeningGalaxy> well, no problems there now
[3:23] <NedScott> http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-inch-Resistive-Touch-Screen-LCD-Display-HDMI-for-Raspberry-Pi-XPT2046-D-/272091220151?hash=item3f59e688b7:g:24wAAOSwKtlWhKcJ
[3:23] <GreeningGalaxy> although I am marginally concerned about durability
[3:24] <GreeningGalaxy> i'm kinda thinking about getting a sheet of plexiglass and drilling it to fit a pibow so I can keep it protected
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[3:27] <Valduare> im going to pick up one of the zebra zero plus cases for my pi0
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[3:31] <Berg> Friends countrymen send me you old your sick your weary zero's
[3:31] <Berg> :)
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[3:32] <[Saint]> Weary? So...all of 'em?
[3:32] <[Saint]> Nice end game.
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[3:43] <Berg> :)
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[3:46] * Xark gives Berg http://previews.123rf.com/images/i3alda/i3alda1304/i3alda130400018/18957911-zero-sign-created-from-text-illustration-Stock-Vector-zero-number-typography.jpg
[3:47] <Berg> Thanks
[3:49] <Xark> My pleasure. :)
[3:49] <Valduare> what would you do with a pi0 berg
[3:52] <Berg> run a water tank level monitor
[3:52] <Berg> Valduare:
[3:52] <Berg> switch a pump on and off
[3:52] <Berg> smell flowers
[3:52] <Berg> :)
[3:53] <Xark> Run in slow motion through flower fields with it? :)
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[3:56] <Valduare> lol
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[4:31] <Tenacious-Techhu> Is there a reason my Raspbian upgrades on my Raspberry Pi 2 seem to be taking an abominably long time?
[4:32] <Valduare> havnt heard any reports
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[4:45] <Tenacious-Techhu> I tried it two weeks in a row, and from a fresh install, it seems to take over 2 hours.
[4:45] <Tenacious-Techhu> Which is all the time I have for that one, really.
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[4:48] <Xark> Tenacious-Techhu: That seems excessive...
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[4:48] <Tenacious-Techhu> I thought so too, hence, why I'm here.
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[4:48] <Xark> Tenacious-Techhu: Internet/WiFi connection issues? Slow SD card?
[4:48] <Valduare> send me the pi2 and i’ll tinker with it :)
[4:49] <Tenacious-Techhu> Hah!
[4:49] <Tenacious-Techhu> No WiFi, it's hard ethernet...
[4:49] <Tenacious-Techhu> Possibly the SD card is slow...
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[4:50] <Tenacious-Techhu> It's some old 4G Kensington one that came with a USB adapter...
[4:50] <Xark> Tenacious-Techhu: You might try a "hdparm -tT /dev/mmxxxxx (whatever that device is called). :)
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[4:51] <Tenacious-Techhu> And what does that do?
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[4:52] <Xark> That is a benchmark
[4:52] <Valduare> Tenacious-Techhu: do a dd write test to temp file to test its speed
[4:52] <Xark> Tells you SD card speed.
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[4:52] <Tenacious-Techhu> So it's not anything like there have been a lot of Raspbian upgrades lately that make upgrading a fresh install inconvenient?
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[4:54] <Xark> Tenacious-Techhu: Here is what "hdparm -Tt /dev/mmcblk0p2" shows on my RPi2: Timing cached reads: 856 MB in 2.00 seconds = 428.18 MB/sec\n Timing buffered disk reads: 52 MB in 3.09 seconds = *16.82 MB/sec*
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[4:55] <Xark> Tenacious-Techhu: You should start with a recent image download (or it will take longer).
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[5:53] <NedScott> internet!
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[6:32] <Tenacious-Techhu> Xark, it was the Raspbian Jesse image from here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
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[8:45] <DSdavidDS> Hi guys. I am having a problem with my raspberry pi filling up in memory and I can't ssh into it anymore
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[8:51] <DSdavidDS> nvm I fixed the problem
[8:52] <Wegge> I'm running raspian. After a reboot, the initrd image seem to be in two minds about the SD card. It's recognized fine during boot, but it will not mount. When I try to mount it by hand, I'm told that there are no device /dev/mmcblk0p1. I guess it's a udev problem on the initrd, but how to fix?
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[8:59] <DSdavidDS> Wegge: sorry, noob here too :(
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[10:21] <rymate1234> hey, I just brought one of these touchscreens: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Touch-Screen-Designed-Raspberry-Model/dp/B00YE0UPES/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
[10:21] <rymate1234> I was wondering if there was a way I could scroll without having to use the scrollbar?
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[10:42] <h4x3> someone experiences with exagear?
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[10:59] <Xark> rymate1234: Arrow keys? :)
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[11:02] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> Mornin' all!
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[11:16] <DoctorD90> guys, anyone may give me a suggest btween 2 gps module? :P they seems the same :P
[11:16] <DoctorD90> aliexpress.com/item/GY-NEO6MV2-Flight-Controller-GPS-Module-For-Arduino-Raspberry-Pi-2-Arduino-EEPROM-MWC-APM-2/32385293603.html
[11:16] <DoctorD90> aliexpress.com/item/GY-NEO6MV2-new-GPS-module-NEO6MV2-NEO-6M-with-Flight-Control-EEPROM-MWC-APM2-5-large/1935978886.html
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[12:30] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid_Pim_: Pim?
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[12:30] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid_Pim_: I'm not available to watch Bilge Tank 023 Live :'( I'll have to watch it an hour or two later. Wouldn't mind a shoutout ;)
[12:31] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> t3chguy, aww!
[12:32] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> t3chguy, how goes?
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[12:54] <gordonDrogon> when it the bilge tank?
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[12:55] <gordonDrogon> *when is ...
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[13:01] <BurtyB> gordonDrogon, 3pm
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[13:09] <gordonDrogon> BurtyB, thanks. might be busy then, but will see.
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[13:24] <t3chguy> BurtyB: ohai
[13:24] <t3chguy> I'm still at college then :(
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[13:24] <t3chguy> No live watching for meeee
[13:25] <testman_> Hello. Any info about when RPi0 will be back in stock?
[13:25] <testman_> Seems to be sold out everywhere
[13:26] <t3chguy> testman_: that's the case, no real information available
[13:27] <testman_> Is there anything that could notify me when RPi0 gets restocked?
[13:28] <rymate1234> Xark: late reply, but I have no arrow keys connected, that's why I was asking
[13:29] <t3chguy> testman_: a lot of distributors offer their own stock notifications
[13:30] <t3chguy> Pihut and Pimoroni do for example
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[13:31] <t3chguy> Actually, I might be able to watch the stream today. While doing electronics coursework
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[13:34] <SpeedEvil> I question personally if it's ever intended to be widely available.
[13:34] <SpeedEvil> I could be overly cynical.
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[13:44] <t3chguy> SpeedEvil: good concept
[13:45] <t3chguy> I only need 2/3 more, so it's fine
[13:45] <t3chguy> To add to my 3 :P
[13:47] <SpeedEvil> Thre are many other broadly comparable devices out there, or indeed the full Pi2
[13:47] <t3chguy> SpeedEvil: I have myself a pi2
[13:48] <t3chguy> I want to test distributed computing with a few zeros
[13:48] <t3chguy> Just for educational purposes
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[13:58] <GreeningGalaxy> I've used &>/dev/null more than ever before on this raspbian install, lol
[13:59] <GreeningGalaxy> ive just got a lot of stuff that I want to either run if it works or shut up if it doesn't
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[14:03] <ScrumpyJack> anyone know anything about the BBC Micro Bit? or have an opinion on it?
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[14:04] <GreeningGalaxy> barely
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[14:05] <GreeningGalaxy> my opinion on raspi alternatives is mostly that they're good if they fit your exact needs better than a pi does, but that the pi is still the best I've seen in versatility and bang for buck
[14:06] <Lonefish> not to mention community support
[14:06] <shauno> the pi mostly wins (imho) because of the community support. almost anything you think of is already googlable
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[14:06] <shauno> (kinda like arduino vs most other micros)
[14:06] <Bilby> *yawn* ‘mornin
[14:07] <Lonefish> the stackoverflow isn't that populated tho
[14:07] <GreeningGalaxy> oh yeah, community support is a big one
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[14:07] <GreeningGalaxy> google "raspberry pi how to fix specific wifi issue" and you'll find a lot more than if you do that for pine64 or something
[14:08] <GreeningGalaxy> ntm with google these days you'll probably get raspi results whatever you google for
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[14:22] <gordonDrogon> ScrumpyJack, is it possible to get hold of microBits yet?
[14:25] <SpeedEvil> I question why anyone would want a microbit, not an arduino or something.
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> good to keep up with what the kids have...
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> I have no practical use for one whatsoever, but it would be nice to get one.
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[14:26] <SpeedEvil> Oh - I missed bluetooth and 25 LEDs
[14:26] <SpeedEvil> and built in accel/magnetometer
[14:26] <SpeedEvil> but...
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[14:27] <gordonDrogon> yes, just what DID the BBC do for us ... ;-)
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[14:28] <GreeningGalaxy> mm, those IO sockets look like they're designed for alligator clips
[14:28] <GreeningGalaxy> I like that
[14:30] <Bilby> I have a ton of old, unused 66 block at the office and i realized yesterday it would be a great way to manage temporary connections for arduinos and suchlike
[14:32] <gordonDrogon> I think they're the same size as old fashioned 4mm banana plugs...
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[14:35] <ScrumpyJack> gordonDrogon: i don't think so, i read they are delayed
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[14:36] <gordonDrogon> yes...
[14:36] <SgtJimmyRustles> Question, anyone use Musicbox?
[14:37] <SgtJimmyRustles> I had an issue when I changed the root password, rebooted, and bam, tried to use the local ip again and got a connection refused.
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[14:37] <DWKnight> sounds like the server didn't launch on reboot
[14:38] <SgtJimmyRustles> Hmm.
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[14:47] <ScrumpyJack> the Code Bug kinda does the same thing as the bbc micro:bit http://www.codebug.org.uk/ anyone tried that? they seem to have a "expansion slot"
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[15:05] <Wegge> I'm running raspian. After a reboot, the initrd image seem to be in two minds about the SD card. It's recognized fine during boot, but it will not mount. When I try to mount it by hand, I'm told that there are no device /dev/mmcblk0p1. I guess it's a udev problem on the initrd, but how to fix?
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[15:07] <kubast2> Wegge, hmm your partion table isn't damaged ?
[15:08] <Wegge> I can mount the card fine in my laptop
[15:08] <kubast2> Wegge the ext4 partion is also seen[on linux] ?
[15:09] <Wegge> It's btrfs, but yes.
[15:09] <Wegge> I can't mount /boo either, so it's probably not that
[15:10] <Wegge> The device nodes are visible in /dev
[15:10] <Wegge> The device ID's look OK, so I'm a bit flummoxed
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[15:12] <kubast2> initrd.img is an .gz file inside of which there is cpio archive right ?
[15:13] <Wegge> Yes, perfectly unpackable
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[15:16] <kubast2> I haven't used linux for a year or so ,so I don't have much of an idea what it could be
[15:17] <Wegge> I've posted the question in the raspberry pi forum, so I hope it will hit a wider audience there.
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[16:12] <FatalNIX> Hey guys. Anyone here ever gotten u-boot to work on the pi?
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[16:12] <t3chguy> FatalNIX: u-boot?
[16:12] <FatalNIX> yeah
[16:12] <t3chguy> you mean booting from a USB Drive?
[16:12] <FatalNIX> no.
[16:12] <kubast2> bootloader
[16:12] <FatalNIX> u-boot is a bootloader, a very very nice one
[16:13] <kubast2> usually used in arm devices[some rockchip devices etc.]
[16:13] <t3chguy> FatalNIX: https://github.com/gonzoua/u-boot-pi
[16:13] <FatalNIX> I've compiled an image following some instructions from elinux but when I plug in my serial cable it doesn't spit out anything
[16:14] <FatalNIX> this page: http://elinux.org/RPi_U-Boot
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[16:28] <t3chguy> thanks Gadgetoid_Pim_ :P
[16:28] <SgtJimmyRustles> Anyone try Volumino?
[16:28] <SgtJimmyRustles> I'm curious if it's a better experience than Musicbox?
[16:28] <BurtyB> you're famous t3chguy! heh
[16:28] <t3chguy> BurtyB: :P
[16:29] <t3chguy> I don't think Pimoroni guys realise how much free stuff they've given me xD
[16:29] <shauno> I've tried volumio, but not musicbox, so I'm not sure I can help offer an opinion
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[16:29] <t3chguy> £100 Voucher, £50 Voucher, £7 Voucher, Pi Zero pHat DAC kit xP
[16:29] <BurtyB> heh
[16:29] <t3chguy> half of the money spent by me at Pimoroni has been their own
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[16:35] <Lonefish> how did you manage that? :p
[16:36] <DWKnight> giveaways probably
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[16:44] <t3chguy> yeah
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[16:44] <t3chguy> first order I spend £30 and got £100 from one of their random giveaways, 8 orders included a £100 gift voucher
[16:45] <t3chguy> s/spend/spent
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[17:07] <Tenkawa> yay!!!
[17:08] <Tenkawa> things are actually working today (unlike yesterday where nothing would)
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[17:19] <ScrumpyJack> who are the pi zero resellers due to get restocks? i can't find the raspberrypi.com page
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[17:22] <ScrumpyJack> found it. hut and mironi
[17:23] <ScrumpyJack> mororni even
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[17:28] <gordonDrogon> I understand that pih ut might have stock tonight from 6pm ...
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[17:29] <gordonDrogon> er, pi hut... http://thepihut.com/
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[17:36] <Tenkawa> gordonDrogon: I hope so.. I need to order another
[17:36] <Tenkawa> "want to rather"
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[17:37] <willmore> Any updates on the pi0 availability? Are we still "get in a knife fight at the book sellers to get one on a copy of MagPi"?
[17:38] <gordonDrogon> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=135081
[17:38] <gordonDrogon> that's the official line on the zero.
[17:39] <gordonDrogon> I imagine the magPi ones were long gone...
[17:39] <agtugo> Hi guys, just to comment I am going to create a small NGO in Mexico to teach kids basics of programming, electronics and physics using a raspberry pi
[17:39] <gordonDrogon> agtugo, good luck.
[17:39] <gordonDrogon> sounds fun...
[17:40] <agtugo> well I have being teaching as a volunteer in basic schools so I said why not
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[17:40] <willmore> Ahh, thanks, gordonDrogon.
[17:42] <Tenkawa> whats the short version?
[17:44] <ShorTie> .
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[17:44] <methuzla> ~
[17:44] <gordonDrogon> 2 UK distys, 2 US ones. they alternatively get half the shipment every time.
[17:44] <Tenkawa> ah
[17:45] <Tenkawa> who are the 2 us ones? adafruit and ?
[17:45] <gordonDrogon> ie. one half this week goes to the UK (pi hut), next week its pimoroni. same for the US. Adafruit and microcenter.
[17:45] <Tenkawa> mc
[17:45] <Tenkawa> ahhh
[17:46] <Tenkawa> I've got mc bookmarked
[17:46] <Tenkawa> already for it
[17:46] <Tenkawa> since I shop there anyway
[17:47] <t3chguy> ScrumpyJack: piHut at 6PM Today (UK Time)
[17:47] <t3chguy> oh gordonDrogon already said it :P
[17:48] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: MagPi Subscriptions (3 month = £13) still include a Zero + Adapters
[17:48] <gordonDrogon> really? almsot worth while taking out a sub...
[17:48] <t3chguy> yeah, I know right
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[17:49] <Tenkawa> wish I could find magpi locally
[17:49] <Tenkawa> ugggh
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[17:49] <Tenkawa> sounds like a good magazine in general
[17:49] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: see: https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/subscribe/
[17:49] <t3chguy> "PLEASE CALL ON 01202 586848 for QUARTERLY DIRECT DEBIT. Get The MagPi #40 with #PiZero & free cable bundle available NOW!"
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[17:50] <t3chguy> Direct Debit can be cancelled so you only pay for one batch of 3
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[17:50] <gordonDrogon> wonder if that would bag you 3 Zeros ... or just one - it's not clear!
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[17:51] <DWKnight> assume one until proven otherwise
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[17:51] <gordonDrogon> yea, I have enough for now.
[17:51] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: just one
[17:51] <t3chguy> you get Issues 40, 42, 43
[17:52] <t3chguy> its still cheaper than a Zero off eBay
[17:52] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> t3chguy, :D
[17:53] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid_Pim_: o/
[17:53] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid_Pim_: whats "Pim"
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[17:56] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> t3chguy, just a suffix to separate myself from the nick my znc bouncer is sitting upon
[17:56] <t3chguy> ah Gadgetoid_Pim_ - neat
[17:56] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid_Pim_: pHat DAC is pretty cool, especially since it was free and came with a Zero ;) shame no H/W Volume control but the sound quality is pretty awesome
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[17:59] * [Saint] hands Gadgetoid_Pim_ quassel-core.
[18:00] <[Saint]> (quassel-core > {B|Z}NC)
[18:00] <t3chguy> [Saint]: do tell, I use ZNC myself currently
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[18:01] <[Saint]> http://www.quassel-irc.org/about
[18:02] <[Saint]> *nix, Android, iOS, OSX, web-based clients available.
[18:02] <[Saint]> Oh, and Windows - heh, forgot.
[18:03] <t3chguy> [Saint]: is there a command line client?
[18:03] <[Saint]> quassel-irssi
[18:03] <t3chguy> yeah I'm not using irssi xP
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[18:03] <t3chguy> I use ZNC + WeeChat + WeeChat_Android/Glowing_Bear, provides similar functionality
[18:03] <t3chguy> but thanks for the headsup, not heard of quassel before
[18:04] <[Saint]> where 'similar' == 'crappy' do; true.
[18:04] <[Saint]> :p
[18:04] <t3chguy> haha
[18:04] <t3chguy> #hater
[18:04] <[Saint]> #irssimasterrace
[18:04] <t3chguy> I only have ZNC in the mix so I can upgrade WeeChat without losing messages
[18:04] <t3chguy> as it can't persist SSL Connections between upgrades
[18:05] <[Saint]> Well, in the case of quassel, the core and client are entirely disconnected, so client upgrades will never drop a connection.
[18:06] <t3chguy> in my case too xP
[18:06] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid_Pim_ / Anyone, are there any differences between the PCB Colours of the PiGlow, I've seen a Green, Purple and Black one now...
[18:06] <t3chguy> the black one seems £2 pricier than Purple
[18:06] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: ^^ you seem to have a driver for PiGlow in wiringPi, maybe you'll know
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[18:07] * [Saint] should sell his 'super rare' B2+ with the black RCA video out for a beeeeellion dollarydoos.
[18:08] <[Saint]> (I suspect it's a manufacturers defect, never seen another like it)
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[18:08] <shauno> last time I had boards made up, I had to pay extra for the black soldermask. so it is possible the black one is more expensive simply because it's the black one
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[18:09] <t3chguy> yeah I know black is a more expensive colour, just wondering whether there are any other differences
[18:09] <t3chguy> Pimoroni seem to be selling theirs at £9, PiHut at £7, Maplin at £6
[18:09] <t3chguy> would have thoughs Pimoroni would have had the best price
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[18:10] <gordonDrogon> I have green and purple ones.
[18:10] <gordonDrogon> green were the prototypes AIUI. Purple the production ones.
[18:10] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: know anything about Black :L?
[18:10] <t3chguy> only seem to be on Pimoroni's own store
[18:10] <gordonDrogon> not seen a black one.
[18:10] <gordonDrogon> sure it's not just a colour issue in the photo?
[18:11] <[Saint]> #datswacist
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[18:11] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0174/1800/products/PiGlow_1024x1024.JPG?v=1424952533
[18:11] <t3chguy> I don't think so ;)
[18:11] <t3chguy> layout looks identical
[18:11] <t3chguy> so probably just latest batches are black
[18:11] <t3chguy> hopefully not a revision
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[18:15] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> t3chguy, stop winning things!
[18:16] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid_Pim_: heh
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[18:16] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid_Pim_: any difference between Purple and Black PiGlows apart from the soldermask?
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[18:16] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> [Saint], doesn't quassel still require a server? My Main problem with ZNC is that I can't access my Pi remotely on my new weird internet setup
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[18:16] <[Saint]> It does, and, why the Hell not?
[18:17] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> [Saint], something to do with it being, primarily, an ISP for students
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[18:17] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> They give me residential service, and let me use a router, but I think I'm joining a network one jump away from t'internet which stops me being able to set up routing
[18:17] <[Saint]> And that somehow prevents you from self-hosting at home and then port-forwarding to the outside world?
[18:17] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid_Pim_: reverse tunnel the Pi?
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[18:18] <t3chguy> I can give you a port and a user on one of my VPSes if you want it for that purpose
[18:18] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> [Saint], yeah port-forwarding is a no-go
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[18:18] <[Saint]> Odd.
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[18:18] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> t3chguy, not such a bad idea- could narrow it down to just the ZNC service too which would be slightly less terribly unsecure
[18:18] <[Saint]> That would be me dumping $SERVICE immediately.
[18:18] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid_Pim_: or I could just make you a user on my ZNC xD
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[18:19] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid_Pim_: if you want either let me know, don't mind setting you up with a system user so you can forward a port of mine to one of yours via reverse tunnelling
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[18:20] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> [Saint], literally no choice! no cable service, and ADSL is rubbish
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[18:20] * [Saint] tries to think of a logical reason why any ISP would nerf port forwarding and fails
[18:21] <t3chguy> I wouldn't be surprised if Gadgetoid_Pim_ is sharing an IP with a bunch of other users
[18:21] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> Neither would I...
[18:21] <shauno> cgnat? (although I'd be surprised to see that deployed outside of cellular networks yet)
[18:21] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> Can't remember the last time I tried reverse tunnelling
[18:21] <[Saint]> That's just disgusting.
[18:21] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> Internet in the UK is embaressing
[18:21] <t3chguy> that it is
[18:21] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> Also, cable suppliers all suck
[18:22] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> Virgin and Sky are deplorable
[18:22] <t3chguy> I'm on some cruddy Fibre, with an upload of 2Mb
[18:22] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> BT ... well.. is BT
[18:22] <shauno> my isp just got bought by Virgin :(
[18:22] <t3chguy> shauno: what ISP is that
[18:22] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid_Pim_, speak for yourself - intrnet in the UK is one of the best.
[18:22] <[Saint]> What happens if there's a content abuse claim? They just send an infringement notice to _everyone_?
[18:22] <shauno> upc ireland
[18:22] <t3chguy> [Saint]: I guess thats what happens in the cellular world
[18:22] <t3chguy> xP
[18:22] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> gordonDrogon, wubbish :D
[18:23] <gordonDrogon> I have a choice of about 100 ISPs and I live in rural devon.
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[18:23] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> gordonDrogon, 100 ISPs, one piece of wet-string
[18:23] <agtugo> I have one ISP
[18:23] <[Saint]> s/ISPs/MNVOs under like...2 ISPs/
[18:23] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> All a decent ISP gets you is people better equipped to deal with BTs nonsense
[18:23] <gordonDrogon> really, you don't have much of a clue what you're on about, Gadgetoid_Pim_
[18:23] <shauno> A&A are pretty freaking stellar in the UK, but they're "you get what you pay for"
[18:23] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> Like Adrews & Arnold
[18:24] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> Yeah I was with A&A on ADSL before, was slow, but man they put up a good fight and got someone to come check out the wet-string chaos that serviced my appartment
[18:24] <gordonDrogon> the ISPs who use BTs wholesale network get what they pay for - so its up to you to pick one that's good - or bad, depending on what you want to pay.
[18:24] <gordonDrogon> I pay �35 a month, get 60Mb in, elevated priority over the BTw network and it has not failed me for a very long time.
[18:25] <shauno> and here I thought I had it bad because upc/chorus were still telling me they're planning to rollout ipv6 summer 2012
[18:25] <t3chguy> #HalfAnHourUntilPiZeros@PiHut
[18:25] <gordonDrogon> of-course it's still 'consumer grade'. if you want decent connectivity then you need to pay a lot more for it.
[18:26] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> gordonDrogon, is that on top of "line rental"?
[18:26] <gordonDrogon> I've had ipv6 for 3-4 years now.
[18:26] <[Saint]> something something, net neutrality.
[18:26] <gordonDrogon> I pay line rental separately.
[18:26] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> Pfft
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[18:26] <[Saint]> I can't ever see 'elevated priority' as a Good Thing (TM).
[18:26] <t3chguy> thats quite a bit then
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[18:26] <t3chguy> I pay £30 inc Line Rental for moderately OK Fibre
[18:26] <t3chguy> sometimes quite flakey
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[18:27] <nid0> thats about normal for non-bargain-basement service
[18:27] <nid0> my fibre is about £35 on top of line rental as well
[18:27] <t3chguy> and the included Router is less useful than a rotten potato
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[18:27] <DWKnight> t3chguy: that included router problem is common to many isps though
[18:27] <[Saint]> If you use your ISP's provided router, you quite obviously hate yourself.
[18:27] <t3chguy> definitely DWKnight
[18:27] <[Saint]> They're all univerally dirt.
[18:27] <t3chguy> whats funny is, my router before upgrading to Fibre was better than the new one
[18:28] <t3chguy> but can't keep the old one due to no VDSL compat
[18:28] <gordonDrogon> I run my own ISP though, so I know what I get and am prepared to pay for it.
[18:28] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> I'm paying £22, no line rental =/
[18:28] <Armand> Oohhhh, cr......
[18:28] <DWKnight> if you "Willingly" use your isps router
[18:28] <Armand> I forgot to place an order for broadband services. -_-
[18:28] <Armand> Derp!
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[18:29] <gordonDrogon> copper is the weakest link though - that does take real money to fix and BT simply won't pony up the money to fix it if its not a priority. The budget on return from the current roll-out of "stuff" is 30 years.
[18:29] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: if only there was someone to give them a real push
[18:29] <t3chguy> like what happened with Google Fibre
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[18:30] <shauno> I actually have no complaints with my isp's router. I mean, it's a pain trying to fix passthrough on it every time they try to remove it. but they seem to be useless enough
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[18:31] <DSdavidDS> HI guys. I've been having some trouble with my newly made webserver on my RPi that keeps on disconnecting after a while
[18:31] <t3chguy> shauno: the WiFi on mine peaks at 24Mb on either Band, even though I'm the only 5GHz Broadcast in my area - paying for 60Mb, they manage to get me 40Mb due to my area, yet over Wifi, nearly half that
[18:32] <shauno> I provide my own wifi. I just use their box as a modem
[18:32] <Anitox> I've got a fresh raspbian install, and it's having some weird SSH issues. When I ping, it says Host is down, but I can still SSH in. Once I connect, I can get ping replies, but they're like 100-200ms when it should be no lag.
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[18:32] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> Think mine's currently capped at 50Mb, with 75Mb being a steep jump to £40month
[18:32] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> Oh and no contract whatsoever, too, which is nice- kinda important since it's physically tied to the building
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[18:33] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> But I have an ethernet socket in my wall, and I plug a router into that... BAZINGA!
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[18:33] <shauno> #40 sounds kinda cheap. I have no sense of perspective anymore
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[18:34] <DSdavidDS> anyone available to help me out?
[18:34] <DSdavidDS> or at least offer some advice?
[18:34] <methuzla> never follow a camel east in a sand storm
[18:34] <Tenkawa> DSdavidDS: dsure
[18:35] <shauno> I'm honestly not sure where to even start with that. log-crawling, most likely
[18:35] * BurtyB advises painting it red whatever it is
[18:35] <DSdavidDS> Alright cool. So like I said earlier, I made a webserver running nginx on my Pi recently as an initiative to start working on a home webserver
[18:36] <Tenkawa> DSdavidDS: in what way is it disconnecting?
[18:36] <DSdavidDS> I opened up all the ports and can SSH into it fine
[18:36] <DSdavidDS> I put it up on my bookshelf at home and a while later, I can't ping/SSH into it anymore
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[18:36] <Tenkawa> ahhhh
[18:36] <Anitox> mine is doing that right now
[18:36] <Tenkawa> which distrib?
[18:36] <Tenkawa> raspbian?
[18:36] <Tenkawa> openelec?
[18:36] <DSdavidDS> Laest Rasbian lite
[18:36] <DSdavidDS> latest*
[18:36] <Anitox> im using raspbian, and it says Host is down when I try to ping
[18:37] <Tenkawa> ok..
[18:37] <Tenkawa> do you have the machine handy?
[18:37] <DSdavidDS> Anitox it does the same for you too? stops working after a while?
[18:37] <Anitox> DSdavidDS, yup. currently trying to solve the issue also
[18:37] <Tenkawa> look in /var/log/messages and see if it talks about link dropping
[18:37] <shauno> is it on wifi?
[18:38] <DSdavidDS> I set it up headlessly so I can only access it through ssh or by mounting on unix
[18:38] <t3chguy> 22-ish minutes until more Pi Zero stock :D
[18:38] <Gadgetoid_Pim_> Haha, all eyes on the Pi Hut
[18:38] <DSdavidDS> what is the part about link dropping?
[18:38] <t3chguy> wish I could pre-add it to my basket xD
[18:38] <t3chguy> Pi Zero + PiGlow :3
[18:39] <t3chguy> want my pHat Dac to have sound-reactive lighting on the top xP
[18:39] <Tenkawa> DSdavidDS: I'm trying to see if it logs any general messages about the interface
[18:39] <Tenkawa> t3chguy: haahaa
[18:39] <shauno> (you kinda can. in browsers that let you live-edit html, like chrome and such, just take 'disabled' off the button. I must stress I have no idea what this breaks at shopify's end)
[18:39] <t3chguy> its not interesting enough until it comes with a pretty light show!!
[18:39] <Anitox> I think it may be going to sleep or something
[18:39] <t3chguy> shauno: fair point
[18:39] <t3chguy> that depends if the button is actually linked
[18:39] <t3chguy> or if they disabled and removed the endpoint it'd hit
[18:40] <shauno> well. it's in my cart
[18:40] <shauno> so I guess I'll find out
[18:40] <Tenkawa> DSdavidDS: you might try using iwconfig wlan0 power off to turn off power management and see if that keeps it on
[18:40] <t3chguy> xD
[18:40] <t3chguy> shauno: I shall do the same
[18:40] <ScrumpyJack> who's selling new stock of zeros appart from thepithut?
[18:40] <DSdavidDS> Anitox: pretty sure I fixed the power management issue a long time ago https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=61665
[18:40] <DSdavidDS> by editing modprobe.d
[18:40] <t3chguy> shauno: lol that was painless
[18:40] <t3chguy> shauno: I wonder what happens if you tried to check out now
[18:40] <Anitox> DSdavidDS, i think that may be my prob. im using an edimax
[18:41] <shauno> no idea. I don't want to annoy them too much lol
[18:41] <t3chguy> shauno: comes up with an "Inventory Issues" page
[18:41] <DSdavidDS> I used that method and the normal SSH hasn't disconnected on me until recently AFTER I started running my webserver
[18:41] <DSdavidDS> Anitox: you definitely want to try out that fix. It worked for me :P
[18:41] <Tenkawa> wow I'm having a much more productive day today
[18:41] <DSdavidDS> but I think I have a different problem
[18:41] <shauno> I believe last time, pimironi were cancelling orders when people were submitting multiple orders to try to circumvent "one per order"
[18:42] <shauno> so, I think it may be wise not to bite the hand that feeds you
[18:42] <Tenkawa> shauno: indeed
[18:42] <t3chguy> shauno: gordonDrogon ordered two and ended up getting one for free after being refunded xP
[18:42] <FatalNIX> I got uboot working on the pi!
[18:42] <DSdavidDS> Anitox: I have a RTL8192cu chipset and that seems to fix it for all dongles with that type
[18:42] <FatalNIX> so the problem was, I didn't get it working on the pi I was trying to, it works on the pi 2 / pi 1. I couldn't get it working on the pi zero. I figured the zero was similar enough to work but.. nope.
[18:43] <t3chguy> shauno: they also ain't happy about lots of orders from a single person per batch
[18:43] <FatalNIX> so maybe I'll just have to port / wait for uboot to be ported to the pi zero
[18:43] <t3chguy> I hit batches 2,3 and got a freebie
[18:43] <t3chguy> so not that much xP
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[18:44] <Anitox> DSdavidDS, maybe the webserver is freezing it up or something?
[18:44] <DSdavidDS> I feel like the wifi power management issue isn't very well documented in the RasPi community
[18:44] <Anitox> plug into tv and watch the output?
[18:44] <Tenkawa> Anitox: that wouldnt stop the whole stack though
[18:44] <t3chguy> or even use a USB/Serial to watch the output
[18:44] <t3chguy> shauno: 15 minutes ish
[18:44] <Tenkawa> (network stack)
[18:44] <Anitox> DSdavidDS, I think this fixed my problem :D
[18:45] <DSdavidDS> The weird thing is that the main page of the site works, but all other pages dont work. That is the only sign of my Pi being somewhat alive
[18:45] <DSdavidDS> sounds good :P
[18:45] <Anitox> yeah, this is super responsive now
[18:45] <Anitox> huzzah!
[18:45] <DSdavidDS> I can also see my PI connected to my router on my router status page
[18:46] <DSdavidDS> Anitox: glad it fixed it. When I had that issue, I was really discouraged. I wish that fix was better documented online.
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[18:46] <Anitox> yeah, i had the same issue with my other rpi a long time ago, so i never used it
[18:46] <Anitox> just ended up using cat5 for that one
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[18:47] <FatalNIX> so now it's time to use u-boot to bootstrap some assembly code on the pi :)
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[18:47] <FatalNIX> because why raspbian
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[18:48] <DSdavidDS> I just want to confirm that there is no particular interference that can cause a PI to lock-up when it is exposed to a particular environment (such as being on top of a bookshelf)
[18:48] <t3chguy> sorta
[18:48] <t3chguy> Bright light can reboot a Pi2 ;)
[18:48] <DSdavidDS> I know of this phenomenon... https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/xenon-death-flash-a-free-physics-lesson/
[18:48] <Anitox> the altitude sensor might be triggering
[18:48] <FatalNIX> put it in a faraday cage :)
[18:48] <t3chguy> yeah xD
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[18:48] <Anitox> :P
[18:48] <DSdavidDS> but sunlight isn't really something that can do that...
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[18:49] <FatalNIX> yeah but it's a pi
[18:49] <FatalNIX> :P
[18:49] <Anitox> maybe it doesnt like the color of your bookshelf
[18:49] <FatalNIX> it's not going to happen with that attitude :P
[18:49] <DSdavidDS> blue? D:
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[18:49] <DSdavidDS> but it seems to like my grey/brown desk perfectly fine
[18:49] <Anitox> try giving it a good pep-talk beforehand
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[18:50] <DSdavidDS> pep-talk eh? maybe some snacks and drinks?
[18:50] <Anitox> scratch it behind the ears
[18:50] <DSdavidDS> *proceeds to pour chips and coke on pi*
[18:51] <DSdavidDS> Ears? uhh.... *scratches the CPU in the middle with a sharp knife*
[18:51] <Anitox> if all else fails, you can try yelling profanities at it
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[18:52] <shauno> I've actually advised a customer to "kick it" before. It's surprising how difficult it is to convince them you're serious
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[18:53] <DSdavidDS> idk. I've had cases of trying really hard to revive a non-working ipad through software/recovery when simply slamming it on the table fixes it long after giving up....
[18:54] <nid0> I impressed a classload of people at school once, they couldn't make a PC turn on, it looked to me like the power button's connectors were flakey
[18:54] <nid0> so I just punched the front of the case, and it immediately whirred into life
[18:54] <Anitox> that'll teach it
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[18:55] <DSdavidDS> So uhh, the coke, chips, peptalk, profanity, knife didn't really fix it
[18:55] <Anitox> bribe it with money
[18:55] <DSdavidDS> I guess Ill just power cycle it later and wait for the same problem to happen again...
[18:56] <ScrumpyJack> i wonder if they do this with an at job
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[18:56] <ScrumpyJack> 30 seconds
[18:56] <DSdavidDS> Tenkawa: you mentioned that ifconfig wlan0 power off fixes the problem?
[18:57] <DSdavidDS> is there another part of Rasbian that manages power of my dongle other than the driver?
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[18:58] <t3chguy> shauno: get ready
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[19:00] <shauno> t3chguy: lol, I'm trying. funny enough, 6pm is the busiest time of the day for me. so they chose well
[19:00] <t3chguy> xP
[19:00] <t3chguy> aaaaaaand its UP
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[19:00] <Tenkawa> DWKnight: iwconfig
[19:00] <Tenkawa> not ifconfig
[19:01] <DWKnight> Tenkawa: wrong D
[19:01] * DWKnight clubs Tenkawa
[19:01] <Tenkawa> well... technically i didnt say it fixed it.. i said it was something to try
[19:01] <t3chguy> ordered
[19:01] <ScrumpyJack> ordered
[19:01] <Tenkawa> it turns power management off
[19:01] <shauno> sweet, that didn't break anything :)
[19:02] <t3chguy> shauno: same here
[19:02] <t3chguy> neat little pre-add
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[19:02] <Tenkawa> what did you all find?
[19:03] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: undisabling a button in shopify has no ill effects
[19:03] <t3chguy> pre-added the Pi Zero to our baskets
[19:03] <Tenkawa> heheheh
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[19:03] <t3chguy> 4th Pi Zero should be here by next Monday
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[19:04] <shauno> it's probably silly. but my personal laptop is on a 3g connection when I'm at work. so anything to save a pageload in a hurry ..
[19:04] <Tenkawa> I wish the usa distributors would hurry up and get more
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[19:05] <BurtyB> hmm zero only sold out :/
[19:05] <Tenkawa> BurtyB: yeah everywhere i've checked in usa so far today
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[19:05] <t3chguy> Tenkawa: weekly
[19:05] <DSdavidDS> Alright, nice talkin peeps
[19:06] <t3chguy> BurtyB: not on PiHut
[19:06] <Tenkawa> pihut is uk right?
[19:06] <DSdavidDS> I always came here at night so I thought this place was an inactive realm
[19:06] <t3chguy> Yeah, with worldwide shipping
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[19:07] <DSdavidDS> how is the shipping price?
[19:07] <BurtyB> t3chguy, weird - when I go to checkout it says "sold out"
[19:07] <DSdavidDS> same here. I think it just sold out
[19:08] <t3chguy> wow
[19:08] <t3chguy> that was fast
[19:08] <DSdavidDS> stock 0 -> 1
[19:08] <DSdavidDS> erm
[19:08] <DSdavidDS> stock 1 -> 0
[19:08] <Tenkawa> fun fun
[19:08] <t3chguy> 4th Zero ;)
[19:08] <t3chguy> only need one more
[19:08] <DSdavidDS> I guess I'll wait a year and then bulk buy them on amazon or something...
[19:08] <Tenkawa> I'm still waiting to get a 2nd
[19:09] <t3chguy> now just waiting on my Nylon Spacers and 4 MicroSD Cards to arrive xD
[19:09] <Tenkawa> heheh
[19:09] <Tenkawa> guess I'll have to work on my PI2's and A20 machines for now
[19:09] <Gadgetoid> Our Pi zeros are, of course, 100% more awesome than Jamie's
[19:10] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: of course
[19:10] <t3chguy> thats why my Pimoroni:PiHut ratio is 3:1
[19:10] <DSdavidDS> how do you guys handle network? usb to microusb adapter?
[19:10] <Gadgetoid> Is that your winning things ratio, t3chguy?
[19:10] <Tenkawa> DSdavidDS: yep
[19:10] <t3chguy> nah xD
[19:11] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: want me to calc how much money I've spent vs won?
[19:11] <Gadgetoid> DSdavidDS: we're stocking a USB ethernet adaptor/HUB combo soon
[19:11] <Tenkawa> I use a 2 port usb + wifi hub from broadcom
[19:11] <Gadgetoid> DSdavidDS: but I personally use USB ethernet gadget and just plug it into my laptop
[19:11] <t3chguy> well I think Gadgetoid is a fan of g_ether
[19:11] <Tenkawa> i really like it
[19:11] <t3chguy> ^^^
[19:11] <Gadgetoid> I'm a hooooge fan of g_ether
[19:11] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: likewise
[19:11] <t3chguy> thats what my 4 pis will be doing
[19:11] <t3chguy> Zeros
[19:11] <t3chguy> plugged into a single 2B via USB
[19:11] <t3chguy> and doing some distributed computing
[19:11] <t3chguy> for learning purposes
[19:11] <DSdavidDS> just curious, which models of Pi have they stopped making?
[19:12] <DSdavidDS> or do they make all models listed here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/ ?
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[19:12] <DSdavidDS> cuz I have a Pi 1 Model B and I feel a bit outdated...
[19:13] <Gadgetoid> Model B is definitely outdated, but still capable
[19:13] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: £118.08 Spent, £157 in vouchers won, and the £30 kit won recently xP
[19:13] <DSdavidDS> I will definitely vouch on the "capable" part
[19:13] <t3chguy> though I do think I have the most reviews on the Pimoroni Shop
[19:13] <Gadgetoid> :D
[19:14] <DWKnight> I agree on the pi 1 model be stil being capable
[19:14] <DSdavidDS> I just need to upgrade my storage
[19:14] <DWKnight> just have to be careful about the sd card
[19:14] <DSdavidDS> SD cards have become so much cheaper in the last 8 years
[19:14] <DWKnight> or get one of those half-length adapters
[19:14] <DWKnight> I'd actually be worried about breaking off the port
[19:15] <DSdavidDS> I am still using my 4GB SD card (which was like $20) and it is proving to be not enough :(
[19:15] <DSdavidDS> DWKnight: get a case :)
[19:16] <DWKnight> what I want is a rackmount setup that has a power supply
[19:17] <DWKnight> ideally anyway
[19:17] <DSdavidDS> also one of my potential goals :)
[19:17] <DSdavidDS> cool to have one, but not really practical xD
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[19:17] <DSdavidDS> I can just have them all lined up in my garage :]
[19:17] <DWKnight> one of my "would be nice" builds would end up being a 1u or 2u case with a custom fab board that lets me have a network of compute modules
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[19:19] <gordonDrogon> what would you do with them?
[19:20] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: just want something to learn about
[19:20] <t3chguy> could use it when I go to uni later on this year or something
[19:21] <t3chguy> oh you mean him
[19:21] <t3chguy> ignore me
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[19:24] <gordonDrogon> :)
[19:24] <gordonDrogon> I think if I was going to make a cluster I'd use Zeros now. Much cheaper for a start..
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[19:25] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: thats what I'm doing xP
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[19:34] <gordonDrogon> Pi Zeros still on-sale at the pi hut...
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[19:35] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: if you try checkout it says out of stock
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[19:35] <gordonDrogon> oh. what a weird website. no-wonders I stopped using them.
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[19:35] <Drzacek_> thank god I managed to get one today
[19:36] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: probably a caching issue
[19:36] <gordonDrogon> well I tried it and got to the "give me the money" stage...
[19:36] <Drzacek_> btw, what's the best way to add network to pi0? wifi? ethernet [shield]?
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[19:36] <gordonDrogon> this was a mega zero wifi pack though, not a plain old zero
[19:37] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: those must be in stock
[19:37] <t3chguy> zero only says "Stocking Issue"
[19:37] <t3chguy> Drzacek_: this: https://bit.ovh/2016/01/31/Raspberry-Pi-Zero-Gadget-Mode/
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[19:37] <shauno> pimironi did that last time I caught them. they only had their bundles in stock. irked me a little, I'll confess
[19:38] <t3chguy> shauno: they prepare the bundles beforehand
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> at least pimoroni don't present the big bundle when you lick on their pi zero image.
[19:38] <t3chguy> they're not gonna rip them apart again to sell them
[19:38] <t3chguy> lol "lick"
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> *click.
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[19:40] <gordonDrogon> if you run a zero or a+ or CM in gadget mode then all you can do is plug it into one other Pi/PC via USB... although I guess you could plug many into that one Pi/PC and use it as a switch..
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[19:40] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: exactly :P
[19:40] <t3chguy> and this switch PC could be some cheap mAtx board with a load of on-board USBs, and GigE
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0174/1800/products/usb-shim-4_1024x1024.jpg?v=1448626398
[19:41] <FluVirus> Is the 3v3 GPIO still hot with the shutdown and the power still connected?
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> wi-fi + otg shim is what I'm using.
[19:41] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: I have 3 of those wifis and 6 shims xD
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> FluVirus, yes. there is no power control on the Pi.
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[19:42] <t3chguy> they make a very nice combo
[19:42] <FluVirus> gordonDrogon, Thanks
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[19:43] <gordonDrogon> see it in-use here: (shim + wi-fi) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqKQzm8Ob7M
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[19:44] <gordonDrogon> I'd not wory too much about that - I don't post that many videos!
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[19:50] <DWKnight> the cluster-o-computes would be a "for giggles" and possibly for some leveraging of videocore
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[19:50] <DWKnight> it would be nice if they did computes with the pi 2 chipset
[19:52] <shauno> I'm still hoping they do. and I'm really hoping it's drop-in compatible with the existing CM
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[19:54] <gordonDrogon> from what I've read (on the forums) if they ever do a CM2 then it will be drop-in compatible.
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[19:55] <shauno> even though for what I'm using it for, the only real difference is that apt is slooooow on the current gen
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[19:57] <t3chguy> lol
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[20:00] <gordonDrogon> apt is slow on regular PCs too.
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> I think the database they use isn't terribly efficient.
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[20:05] <shauno> yeah, it's rebuliding the package list at the end of an update. that's the biggest difference between pi1 and pi2 for my app
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[20:06] <Tenkawa> wow this was definitely a tale of two days for me
[20:07] <Tenkawa> couldnt get anything to work yesterday and today everything is
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[20:08] <Dex-Freudii> I got a parallel 8-bit ADC, and I need to connect it to the raspberry pi 2 (through the GPIO) is there a way in Python to read the entire byte in only few instructions?
[20:08] <Dex-Freudii> I mean, I dont want to read bit per bit and the do an if to add a number or not...
[20:09] <gordonDrogon> Dex-Freudii, it depends on the device. what is it?
[20:09] <Dex-Freudii> which device do you refer to?
[20:09] <Dex-Freudii> ADC? is a 8-bit ADC that outputs in parallel
[20:09] <gordonDrogon> oh right.
[20:09] <gordonDrogon> no i2c, spi, etc. then ?
[20:10] <Dex-Freudii> nope
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> gosh.
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> no, there is no easy way in Python that I'm aware of.
[20:10] <Dex-Freudii> so I need to write my own function
[20:10] <Dex-Freudii> thnx
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> the input bits in the 32-bit registers from the gpio connector are not consecutive pins, so even if you could read it 32-bits at a time, then you'll still need to fo twiddling & shifting.
[20:11] <Dex-Freudii> actually no
[20:11] <Dex-Freudii> I don't need to connect physically continuous
[20:11] <gordonDrogon> it's not possible to.
[20:11] <Dex-Freudii> why
[20:11] <Dex-Freudii> ?
[20:11] <Dex-Freudii> I can connect from pin 20 to 27
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[20:12] <Dex-Freudii> then read the register
[20:12] * gordonDrogon ponders.
[20:12] <Dex-Freudii> do 5 shifts left and then 24 shifts right
[20:12] <gordonDrogon> ok. I missed the pi2 bit there.
[20:13] <Dex-Freudii> ah
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[20:13] <Dex-Freudii> so I can read the register, multiply by 32 and then divide by 2^24
[20:13] <gordonDrogon> you just need a shift and mask.
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> >> 20 then & 0xFF
[20:14] <Dex-Freudii> yep
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> however I've no idea how python does that - I'm not a python programmer. just BASIC and C.
[20:14] <Dex-Freudii> how do you access the GPIO in C?
[20:14] <Dex-Freudii> I prefer C also
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> I use the wiringPi library.
[20:14] <Dex-Freudii> Pi2?
[20:15] <gordonDrogon> it supports all Pi's.
[20:15] <gordonDrogon> however it doesn't have a native 32-bit register read function.
[20:15] <gordonDrogon> would be trivial to add it in though.
[20:16] <Dex-Freudii> what does it have?
[20:16] <gordonDrogon> its a 'wiring' type of library - pinMode, digitalRead/Write and access to other stuff too like the pwm and pull up/down resistors.
[20:17] <Dex-Freudii> I see
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> http://wiringpi.com/
[20:17] <Dex-Freudii> thnx
[20:18] <gordonDrogon> I wrote it...
[20:19] <gordonDrogon> there is an existing 'writeByte' function, but I've been meaning to write a readByte to compliment it - however that works on the original 26-pin gpio. I think I'll add in a writeByte2 and readByte2 for the 40-pin connector...
[20:19] <Dex-Freudii> nice... thanks for the work dude
[20:20] <gordonDrogon> it's probably already installed on your Pi if you've put in a recent image.
[20:20] <Luyin> if I don' have a wireless network card or bluetooth on my rpi, do I need the wireless cards firmware for the kernel? can I safely remove them, or are there caveats against it?
[20:20] <gordonDrogon> type: gpio readall to check
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[20:20] <Dex-Freudii> what should I get?
[20:20] <gordonDrogon> Luyin, if compiling your own kernel, you can safely remove them (probably!)
[20:21] <Dex-Freudii> (I have it turn off now, and in the box :P )
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[20:21] <gordonDrogon> yo should get an ascii diagram of the GPIO connector with the current input values and pin names.
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[20:21] <Luyin> gordonDrogon: they are installed as packages I can see in aptitude (on raspbian here). do I have to compile my own kernel if I just remove these packages?
[20:22] <Dex-Freudii> what is the average time of the digitalRead() function?
[20:22] <gordonDrogon> Luyin, oh right. the firmware packages - it's probably safe to remoev them to save a bit of SD card space.
[20:22] <Dex-Freudii> and I read at a frequency of 8x44 kHz?
[20:22] <Luyin> ok, thanks gordonDrogon
[20:22] <Dex-Freudii> *can I read...
[20:22] <gordonDrogon> Dex-Freudii, hard to tell, but when I tested it - reading a single bit, I get about 10-12M reads (or writes)/second.
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> I think the Pi2 is faster, but I've not checked.
[20:23] <Dex-Freudii> have you checked on B+?
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> ah, audio sampling. the issue you'll have is accurate timing to prevent jitter.
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> that timing was on a B (B+ is the same)
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[20:24] <Dex-Freudii> I see
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[20:24] <Dex-Freudii> since it is about MHz, using a timedelay function will do the job
[20:24] <Dex-Freudii> I actually need 22 kHz sampling rate
[20:24] <Dex-Freudii> the jitter will be negligible
[20:25] <gordonDrogon> it's more than fast enough to do that, but jitter will be your enemy here - Linux is a multi-user multi-tasking OS. There are things you can to to minimise it, but you can't control things like dram & video refresh which steals memory cycles...
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[20:26] <gordonDrogon> I have sampled audio at 8Khz over the SPI bus in the past though and it was intelligible...
[20:27] <Dex-Freudii> gordonDrogon, for sure.. in any case I just want to do a small demonstration about DSP to undergraduate students and thought that RPI2 will be a more-friendly interface than hardcore DSP assembly
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[20:27] <gordonDrogon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSCBj6rabIU
[20:28] <Dex-Freudii> I want to connect a signal generator to the circuitry and then using a DAC also connected to the GPIO, connect there an oscilloscope
[20:28] <gordonDrogon> oh for sure - it'll work well for that.
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[20:29] <Dex-Freudii> thanks
[20:29] <Gadgetoid> I'm biased, but I don't begrudge anyone selling a Pizero bundle, specially as it's still supposed to be "1 per customer".. in theory :D
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[20:29] <FFoxeR> Hi guys. L
[20:29] <Gadgetoid> Says the guy with a desk drawer full of them...
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[20:30] <FFoxeR> Potentially stupid question: can I install a Linux image that isn't specific to the pi?
[20:30] <Gadgetoid> FFoxeR: in theory yes, but it would have to support the Pi architecuture still
[20:30] <Gadgetoid> FFoxeR: so a generic ARMv7 linux distro, if I'm not mistaken
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[20:31] <DWKnight> armv6 for pi 1, armv6/7 for pi2 iirc
[20:31] <FFoxeR> Excellent, thanks. I wasn't sure if they needed something specific for the pi to boot them or something like that
[20:31] <Dex-Freudii> FFoxeR, just bare in mind that not all applications have an ARMv7 implementation
[20:31] <Gadgetoid> Most worthwhile distributions already have a solid port, though, oh and what Dex-Freudii said
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[20:32] <FFoxeR> Oh, yeah, I was just going to get the lubuntu image off of the ubuntu website
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[20:32] <Gadgetoid> DWKnight: are there many armv6 distros out there? ... I guess so!
[20:32] <FFoxeR> So still armv7
[20:32] <Gadgetoid> Like... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-preinstalled/pending/ ?
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[20:32] <Dex-Freudii> but ubuntu only has ported to ARMv7 terminal distribution... no graphics
[20:32] <Gadgetoid> Although tar.gz filesystem possibly not the best
[20:33] <Gadgetoid> Actually not that at all
[20:33] <Gadgetoid> What the flip is ac100? :D
[20:34] <Dex-Freudii> Gadgetoid, in any case Raspbian is debian, Ubuntu is debian
[20:34] <Dex-Freudii> you don't need ubuntu
[20:34] <Gadgetoid> Dex-Freudii: truth!
[20:34] <Dex-Freudii> you just need to download anything you want
[20:34] <Gadgetoid> Grab Jessie Lite, work from there
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[20:37] <FFoxeR> Gadgetoid: does the lite one come without all that preinstalled software? That was my biggest gripe with raspian, didn't want to go through and uninstall all the programs I didn't want
[20:37] <Dex-Freudii> so yesterday a colleague told me that the RPi2 I bought is pretty much a tiny slow computer with GPIO, and very expensive... :-/
[20:39] <Tenkawa> expensive?
[20:39] <DWKnight> did you slap him with a newspaper?
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[20:41] <Dex-Freudii> gordonDrogon, does the readDigital() function return int maskable?
[20:41] <Gadgetoid> FFoxeR: the lite one comes with very, very little
[20:41] <Gadgetoid> FFoxeR: not even a desktop environment
[20:42] <Dex-Freudii> I want to install unity to the rpi2
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[20:44] <shauno> I thought it was quite easy to tidy up raspbian. just remove X, and everything else disappears with it
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[20:45] <Dex-Freudii> gordonDrogon, nevermind, I saw it
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[20:47] <gordonDrogon> Dex-Freudii, digitalRead is just a single bit - you get 1 or 0.
[20:47] <gordonDrogon> back in a while - got 20Kg of bread dough to make up..
[20:48] <DWKnight> for my purposes, the pi2 is plenty powerful
[20:48] <DWKnight> but then again, my bittorrent tracker is pretty low-load
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[21:12] <zalzice> Hi guyes, having some issue with apt-get upgrade. Getting 404 not found. Anyone else having same issue?
[21:12] <zalzice> just installed rasbian jessie lite
[21:12] <zalzice> 404 Not Found [IP: 80]
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[21:18] <Dex-Freudii> gordonDrogon, the pin numbers... should I use what I get from gpio readall or from the "official" GPIO pinout
[21:18] <Dex-Freudii> ?
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[21:18] <Tenkawa> zalzice: did you run an apt-get update first?
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[21:20] <zalzice> jupp, just found another mirror now
[21:20] <zalzice> trying to check with that
[21:20] <zalzice> yepp works perfectly with another mirror
[21:20] <Tenkawa> ok.. good luck
[21:20] <Tenkawa> cool
[21:21] <zalzice> thanks anyway :)
[21:21] <Tenkawa> heehehh
[21:21] <Tenkawa> uggh this weather here ...
[21:22] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: is the start.elf in your recipe just lifted from /boot?
[21:22] <ali1234> Gadgetoid yes
[21:22] <Gadgetoid> Nice! easymode :D
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[21:26] <t3chguy> Dex-Freudii: http://pinout.xyz shows WiringPi pin numbers
[21:26] <t3chguy> WiringPi also has a BCM Numbering compatibility mode
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[21:31] <Bilby> ugh, brain made of jelly, i have to take a break
[21:32] <Tenkawa> Bilby: you notice it started snowing?
[21:32] <Tenkawa> or has it started there yet?
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[21:32] <Tenkawa> uggh
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[21:32] <Dex-Freudii> t3chguy, thnx
[21:32] <Bilby> I hadn’t, but now that you mention it i can see some extra “artifacting” on my cameras
[21:32] <Tenkawa> yeah
[21:32] <Tenkawa> fun eh?
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[21:33] <Tenkawa> wasnt in the forecast for the stuff we got overnight either
[21:33] <Bilby> Who knows anymore
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[21:33] <Tenkawa> indeed
[21:33] <Bilby> 50 yesterday
[21:33] <Bilby> 20 tonight
[21:33] <Bilby> 40 tomorrow
[21:33] <Tenkawa> 50? it was 64
[21:33] <Tenkawa> here anyway
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[21:34] <Tenkawa> this is the time of year i really dislike here because of this weather
[21:34] <Dex-Freudii> How can I get a delay of 0.1 ms in C?
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[21:34] <Bilby> sleep(100) ?
[21:35] * Bilby has no idea how C works <_<
[21:35] <Dex-Freudii> :)
[21:35] <TheLostAdmin> I *think* sleep is in miliseconds but nanosleep() should work if you've got the library.
[21:36] <Tenkawa> i was going to mention nanosleep
[21:36] <Tenkawa> sleep is actually seconds
[21:36] <Tenkawa> according to the manpage
[21:36] <Tenkawa> the posix function from unistd anyway
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[21:37] <Tenkawa> usleep can be used too
[21:37] <TheLostAdmin> How many cpu ticks is there in a nanosecond on a Pi anyway?
[21:38] <Tenkawa> good q
[21:38] <ppq> clock^-9
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[21:40] <M3mphiZ> Jusii: you here?
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[21:41] <ppq> err, 10^9*clock^-1 of course
[21:42] <ppq> (ns per clock)
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[21:43] <Gadgetoid> Thanks ali1234, setting it up now!
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[21:48] <M3mphiZ> Jusii: Please let me know once you got a few mins, thx!
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[21:51] <plm> Are there any optimization of opencv on pi2 (armv7) compared with pi1(armv6)?
[21:51] <plm> And, has opencv optimization for GPU of Raspberrypi?
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[21:54] <DWKnight> plm: videocore's specs are available with a lot more detail than amd or nvidia ones apparently
[21:55] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
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[21:57] <Gadgetoid> Is the PiZero ACT LED on the same pin as the B+?
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[21:59] <DWKnight> Gadgetoid: probably
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[22:00] <sir_galahad_ad> one would think so
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[22:00] <DWKnight> gpio pinout looks identical
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[22:01] <DWKnight> would make sense if everything else was
[22:02] <sir_galahad_ad> how much current can i put out through a gpio pin?
[22:02] <Bilby> 30ma
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[22:02] <Bilby> so basically JUST signalling
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[22:02] <sir_galahad_ad> bah that's not enough to power a tesla coil!
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[22:03] <DWKnight> it's enough power to trigger a switch that controls a power supply that CAN power a tesla coil though
[22:03] * sir_galahad_ad starts stringing caps together
[22:04] <Bilby> power a transistor that switches a small relay that switches a large relay, which starts an engine, which powers a motor that turns a large bar of copper until it engages another bar of copper, which completes a circuit between an AA battery and a flashlight bulb
[22:04] <sjk> Ehehehe I hooked my old rpi up with a snapscan scanner to scan and OCR my mail etc
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[22:05] <sjk> but it's one of the first generation raspberrys... so ocr-ing etc is taking aaaages
[22:05] <sir_galahad_ad> Bilby: :D
[22:05] <sjk> Guess I need to get a new one and use this one for... hrm... dunno... something that doesn't require much cpu and ram
[22:05] <DWKnight> the rpi2 would only get done in about 1/6th the time
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[22:06] <sjk> Hrm
[22:06] <sjk> That's still almost painfully slow. Maybe I need to rethink this.
[22:06] <DWKnight> that's a situation where my compute module cluster would be handy
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[22:06] <Gadgetoid> I clearly have no idea what I'm doing :D
[22:07] <sjk> DWKnight: what's that?
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[22:07] <DWKnight> a theorycrafted idea of having a board that has networking chips, a power supply and a bunch of slots for pi compute modules
[22:07] <Gadgetoid> usbboot writes usbbootcode.bin then just hangs around waiting for BCM2835 again
[22:08] <DWKnight> feed all your images to a controlling machine and have it distribute the workload across the modules
[22:08] <sjk> Interesting
[22:08] <sjk> Because, honestly, I think I'll have to rethink this. Hrmmmm...
[22:08] <shauno> there was actually a company in japan trying to do that with the zero recently
[22:08] <ali1234> Gadgetoid: after usbbotcode.bin the device should re-enumerate
[22:08] <shauno> but, they're stuck because they've only got one zero so far. I kid ye not.
[22:09] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: just sits there and doesn't do much, is the supplied usbbootcode.bin compatible with the Zero?
[22:09] <DWKnight> shauno: saw the board, needs networking chips on the master board to be ideal
[22:09] <ali1234> Gadgetoid: that's a good question actually. it works with an A+
[22:09] <ali1234> hang on let me try it
[22:09] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: I've got a hunch that it's not, and that may be half my trouble
[22:10] <ali1234> i can't see any reason why it would not be compatible
[22:10] <ali1234> possibly something to do with OTG?
[22:10] <Gadgetoid> 512MB RAM vs 256MB? although as I understood the offsets were the same
[22:10] <DWKnight> the plan I have would be a bunch of sodimm slots compatible with the compute module, a switch chip capable of handling the number of nodes on the board, a power supply, network adapter chips (if necessary) and a port for main network connection and power
[22:10] <ali1234> maybe
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[22:12] <sjk> DWKnight: the new pi's have 1G of ram though, don't they?
[22:12] <sjk> Mine has like 180M
[22:13] <DWKnight> the pi2 does have 1gb yes
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[22:14] <ali1234> Gadgetoid: what are you trying to boot on it?
[22:14] <DWKnight> you could do a cluster of regular pis and/or pi-alikes with a regular switch and some anker 6-port power supplies
[22:14] <ali1234> the blinker will need to be adapted i think
[22:15] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: just blinker01.bin, however it doesn't get to the stage where it re-enumerates
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[22:15] <Gadgetoid> It just hangs indefinitely, and no USB device appears in lsusb, which makes me suspect the usbbootcode.bin
[22:16] <ali1234> yeah that seems wrong
[22:16] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid, ali1234 what are you both testing?
[22:16] <Gadgetoid> t3chguy: baremetal on the Pi Zero over USB
[22:17] <ali1234> what about msd.elf?
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[22:19] <oscarandjo> Hi I'm having a bit of trouble with a WiFi adapter that seems to be somewhat working. I was wondering if someone could help me diagnose it
[22:19] <oscarandjo> I can see all my WiFi networks, but cannot actually connect to one successfully.
[22:19] <oscarandjo> Then, if I unplug my ethernet cable, the entire wlan0 interface disappears for some reason.
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[22:20] <Gadgetoid> Hmm, nada, must need a new build
[22:20] <oscarandjo> It's a mt7601u chipset.
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[22:21] <Tenkawa> why mess with the bootcode?
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[22:21] <DWKnight> oscarandjo: got an x86(-64) machine that the wifi adapter works fine on or have you tested?
[22:22] <Tenkawa> oscarandjo: anything of interest in dmesg?
[22:22] <oscarandjo> That's a good idea, DWKnight, I will try it
[22:22] <DWKnight> dmesg is also a valid step
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[22:23] <TheSin> so I get the low voltage rainbow box on my RPi2 but no red light
[22:23] <Tenkawa> when?
[22:23] <TheSin> I'm at 4.66V I knwo the red light trips at 4.63, is the rainbox more sensitive shoudl I worry about it?
[22:23] <Tenkawa> ouch
[22:23] <oscarandjo> Tenkawa I ran the command and there is a load of spam from NETDEV_UP about "wlan 0: link is not ready"
[22:24] <Tenkawa> oscarandjo: do you have wpasupplicant installed?
[22:24] <Tenkawa> i assume you are trying to connect to a wpa/wpa2 network?
[22:24] <oscarandjo> I do, but I'm adding my WiFi settings through the etc/network/interfaces folder instead
[22:24] <oscarandjo> And yes, it is wpa2
[22:24] <Tenkawa> (it still uses libraries)
[22:25] <Tenkawa> does iwconfig wlan0 show anything "unusual"?
[22:25] <DWKnight> TheSin: probably is, I like using anker wall blocks for power supply for my pi
[22:25] <oscarandjo> Tenkawa, I don't think it did, I will run it again in a second. Pi is rebooting
[22:25] <Tenkawa> ok
[22:26] <DWKnight> probably overkill, but it's better to have too much capacity on power supply than too much demand
[22:26] <oscarandjo> Is it normal for the Pi to reboot if I plug the wifi adapter in but not my KB or mouse>?
[22:26] <Tenkawa> DWKnight: amperage yes.. voltage no
[22:26] <Tenkawa> oscarandjo: o
[22:26] <Tenkawa> er no
[22:26] <oscarandjo> hmm
[22:26] <Tenkawa> DWKnight: you dont want to overvolt the pi
[22:26] <TheSin> DWKnight, this is a custom setup, obvisouly a wrong resistor and power is a bit low, I wanted to test the rest but dont' want to hurt anythign if 4.66 is too low
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[22:27] <DWKnight> the anker I have does 5V with a 2.4A per port max
[22:27] <Gadgetoid> Guess I'll have to try videocore assembly
[22:27] <TheSin> yeah I have 5A avail, on this board just the trim most have the wrong resistors on it
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[22:28] <TheSin> I read it's best to stay in the uSB rang 4.75 - 5.25V but if that is the case why not have the red light trigger at 4.74V and not 4.63?
[22:28] <oscarandjo> Tenkawa - The out from iwconfig wlan0 has no errors.
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[22:28] <oscarandjo> It just says IEEE 802.11bgn, ESSID: off/any and a few other things
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[22:28] <DWKnight> 4.63 is probably in the "too low to function" range but between 4.64 and 4.75 is probably still workable
[22:29] <ali1234> okay i finally found the right cable
[22:29] <DWKnight> probably still better to target 5v flat though
[22:29] <Bilby> input voltage on the pi?
[22:29] <Bilby> i’d imagine the circuit they’re using to get 3.3v requires a minimum voltage to operate correctly
[22:30] <Bilby> I had to buy a specific model voltage regulator to get 3.3v from 5v since most regulators need a bigger differential to regulate properly - of course they aren’t using a regulator but the principal applies
[22:30] <TheSin> DWKnight, yeah 5v is the goal, but just for a couple weeks while I test the rest of the board I just didn't want to cook anything
[22:30] <TheSin> thanks
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[22:33] <Tenkawa> will even the zero run off 3.3?
[22:33] <Tenkawa> it needs 5v right?
[22:34] <ali1234> Gadgetoid yes this doesn't work on the zero for me either
[22:34] <Bilby> There are some bits that use 5v directly, i can’t remember what though
[22:34] <ali1234> lsusb
[22:34] <Tenkawa> I know it doesnt need near the current draw the other ones need however voltage still needs 5v input right?
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[22:35] <DWKnight> usb controller I think needs the 5v
[22:35] <oscarandjo> Does WiFi work with networks that have spaces in the SSID and password?
[22:35] <DWKnight> it should
[22:35] <Tenkawa> should
[22:35] <DWKnight> it does here with the infamous edimax micro adapter
[22:36] <RoBo_V> hey guys I have two routers (diff ISP) both connected to each other. I have raspberr pi connected to one, My ques is can some application insdie raspberry pi to use diff router always when exec.
[22:36] <oscarandjo> You mean wirelessly RoBo_V?
[22:36] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: d'oh! just flashed a raw videocore binary and that works
[22:36] <oscarandjo> connect to one but not the other
[22:36] <Bilby> if the usb controller needs the 5v I wonder if you can run the zero off of 3v3 since no controller
[22:37] <ali1234> Gadgetoid what, like start.elf?
[22:37] <ali1234> how do you even know it works?
[22:37] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: followed this guide:
[22:37] <Gadgetoid> missed a zero somewhere, though, cos it ain't blinking
[22:37] <ali1234> ah yes, that would work
[22:38] <RoBo_V> oscarandjo: oh i guess we need 2 interfaces, 1 for raspberry pi 2nd wireless for that application.
[22:38] <RoBo_V> is that right ?
[22:38] <Tenkawa> Bilby: it does still have a single port controller
[22:38] <oscarandjo> So you want an application to use a different router's network and everything else use the primary router?
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[22:38] <RoBo_V> oscarandjo: exactly.
[22:39] <Tenkawa> Bilby: thats what my wifi adapter/hub runs on
[22:39] <RoBo_V> on my network everything is on same subnet with 2 gatways.
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[22:39] <oscarandjo> You're going to need to setup two interfaces and find a way to temporarily switch to one, send that data and then switch back to the other.
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[22:39] <Bilby> Tenkawa: I thought the USB port came right off the SOC?
[22:39] <oscarandjo> How you do that, I don't know because I've not tried before.
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[22:40] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: turns the LED on at least
[22:40] <Tenkawa> Bilby: hmm good point... i dont have it in front of me however I think you are right
[22:40] <RoBo_V> oscarandjo: i guess if we have two interfaces we need not to switch.
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[22:40] <oscarandjo> How would your Pi know which interface to use though?
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[22:40] <Bilby> hmm… do the data wires on USB run on 5v also?
[22:40] <Tenkawa> RoBo_V: you could assign static routes for devices and destinations
[22:41] <Tenkawa> Bilby: not sure
[22:41] <Gadgetoid> Haha, no I really stuffed up the offsets :D now it works
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[22:43] <oscarandjo> Tenkawa: I tried the adapter on my Windows 10 desktop, it works, but it will not connect to networks on my pi...
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[22:44] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: seen https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv/blob/master/blinker01/blinker01.s ?
[22:44] <Tenkawa> oscarandjo: hmmm
[22:45] <Tenkawa> you said you are using interfaces file right?
[22:45] <ali1234> Gadgetoid so can someone rewrite the usbbootcode.bin?
[22:45] <oscarandjo> Yeah, let me get you a pastebin of that
[22:45] <ali1234> there a disassembler?
[22:45] <Tenkawa> oscarandjo: ok
[22:45] <ali1234> it's only 16kb so should be fairly easy to RE
[22:45] <oscarandjo> http://pastebin.com/raw/dHFWVVAt
[22:45] <Tenkawa> I have a thought what might be going on
[22:45] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: I was wondering if I could hex edit or disassemble it, might be worth asking up the chain though
[22:45] <oscarandjo> Tenkawa: http://pastebin.com/raw/dHFWVVAt
[22:45] <ali1234> open an issue about usbbootcode.bin on the tools repo
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[22:45] <Tenkawa> ok.. let me take a look
[22:46] <Tenkawa> ok you do want to static define?
[22:47] <oscarandjo> Yeah, it needs to be on that IP
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[22:47] <oscarandjo> if I use DHCP it fails to connect
[22:47] <oscarandjo> it says it doesn't get a response from a DHCP server or something
[22:47] <oscarandjo> Despite DHCP working fine on everything else
[22:47] <Tenkawa> you still need wpasupplicant entries for the ctrl interface scan auth and eapol
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[22:48] <Tenkawa> I have a wpa_supplicant.conf setup for that
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[22:48] <oscarandjo> Hmm some of the ones I saw online didn't need it.
[22:48] <ali1234> Gadgetoid so there's a disassembler but it needs mono
[22:48] <oscarandjo> But I can reanble it
[22:48] <Tenkawa> Can anyone else confirm that?
[22:48] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: gaah!
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[22:49] <ali1234> Gadgetoid another thing to try would be to hook up a jtag cable on a zero and an A+ and see where the code deverges
[22:49] <Tenkawa> oscarandjo: I would minimally try ap_can, eapol_version and the ctrl_interface* entries
[22:49] <RoBo_V> Tenkawa: I see, with static route I can have my Rpi on 1 gateway and 1 application inside RPi on other gateway. and both communcatiing parallely.
[22:49] <RoBo_V> is that right ?
[22:49] <ali1234> but you would need to solder it on to the tiny tiny header on the bottom
[22:49] <Tenkawa> RoBo_V: in theory yes
[22:49] <Tenkawa> you define source/dest
[22:49] <Tenkawa> or you could use iptables to build firewall routing rules
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[22:49] <Tenkawa> to move that traffic
[22:49] <RoBo_V> I got it.
[22:49] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: I don't quite understand why it's not open source, grumble
[22:50] <RoBo_V> I was thinking other way to provide to netowrk interfaces to RPi and use each of them.
[22:50] <Tenkawa> in theory... i havent used it in ages so no gurantees
[22:50] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[22:50] <RoBo_V> 2 netowrk interfaces*
[22:50] <ali1234> Gadgetoid it's worse than the, the instruction set isn't even public
[22:51] <RoBo_V> ok well thanks Tenkawa
[22:51] <ali1234> Gadgetoid basically if we could disassemble start.elf we could do things like patch it to play MPEG-2 without a license
[22:51] <Tenkawa> RoBo_V: good luck
[22:51] <gordonDrogon> now where were we..
[22:51] <ali1234> the videocore iv is designed around the idea of making one chip and selling it at different prices with different features unlocked
[22:51] <gordonDrogon> ah yes - updating wiringPi for byte read/writes.
[22:52] <ali1234> the security on it is all about protecting the videocore side from the arm user side
[22:52] <ali1234> it's a pretty standard way to design embedded systems with linux UI these days. common on android too
[22:53] <Tenkawa> oscarandjo: also doublecheck dmesg for firmware errors
[22:53] <Tenkawa> ie missing
[22:53] <oscarandjo> Okay, this wifi chipset is supposed to be supported though.
[22:53] <Tenkawa> even supported some of them need code loaded at runtime
[22:53] <Tenkawa> ie anything rt2870 based
[22:53] <ali1234> Gadgetoid hmm: http://hermanhermitage.github.io/videocore-disjs/dis.html
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[22:55] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: woah!
[22:55] <oscarandjo> Tenkawa: even with the USB unplugged there are errors saying " Error: RX urb failed:-71"
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[22:56] <ali1234> what's the entrypoint on that assembly you're playing with?
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[22:56] <ali1234> hmm so the very first thing this code does is mov r0, cpuid
[22:57] <ali1234> assuming entrypoint really is 0x200 which it probably is
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[22:57] <sjk> DWKnight: scan 432.48s user 9.42s system 47% cpu 15:32.27 total :o
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[22:58] <oscarandjo> Tenkawa: Tried dmesg again after a reboot, it tries to connect repeatedly to my WiFi and then times out.
[22:59] <Gadgetoid> 0x200 ali1234
[22:59] <oscarandjo> The MAC address it is trying to connect to is correct.
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[23:00] <ali1234> hmm this code goes down two very different paths depending on the cpuid
[23:00] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: looks pretty interesting at the top there, either branches to 0x208 or 0x220 with slighly different values primed into r24/r25
[23:00] <ali1234> yeah but look carefully. the first block jump way past the second one
[23:00] <ali1234> b 0x278
[23:01] <Gadgetoid> Yeah you're right
[23:01] <ali1234> i can't see where they converge at all
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[23:02] <Gadgetoid> wonder which is the exception and which is the rule
[23:03] <ali1234> well it;s going to be 2835 vs 2836
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[23:06] <ali1234> there's a lot more cpuid checks through the code
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[23:07] <Gadgetoid> That has chip and RAM information encoded into it, right?
[23:07] <ali1234> don't know
[23:08] <ali1234> USB registers are at 0x7e980000 - this address turns up in code
[23:08] <bitanarchy> I want to browse up and down in command history but I get ^[[A and ^[[B .... I run raspbian on a rpi2
[23:09] <Gadgetoid> Seeing if Gordon can shed any light also
[23:11] <ali1234> this code doesn't seem to have any interrupt handlers
[23:12] <ali1234> which is odd, but maybe it just polls
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[23:14] <Gadgetoid> It's enormously cool that you can push videocore binaries over USB though
[23:14] <ali1234> it's to be expected
[23:14] <ali1234> it's how the chip works
[23:14] <ali1234> the videocore is the main cpu
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[23:16] <gordonDrogon> gordon me?
[23:17] <Bilby> I’d gordon you all night ;)
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[23:17] <Bilby> i mean
[23:17] * Bilby flees
[23:17] <gordonDrogon> its just a name..
[23:17] <gordonDrogon> small town in Scotland...
[23:17] <oscarandjo> Tenkawa: Just noticed on "lsmod" there are two modules for the WiFi adapter, mt7601Usta and mt7601u - Could they be clashing?
[23:18] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Gordon H :D
[23:18] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: as awesome a Gordon as you are, in this instance you're just not the right Gordon
[23:19] <gordonDrogon> thought not. I am a Gordon H though.
[23:20] <Gadgetoid> Hahahaha :D
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[23:21] <Valduare> hows it going
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[23:24] <ali1234> Gadgetoid are you ever going to make backwards legs for the 7" display case?
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[23:24] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: no plans at the moment, just too many other things to think about
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[23:25] <ali1234> what if i design them for you?
[23:25] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: but lcd_rotate gets me every, single, time
[23:25] <ali1234> i've had stuff laser cut before
[23:25] <ali1234> it turned out okay
[23:25] <ali1234> but it would cost me like £30 for a one off
[23:25] <Gadgetoid> For any kind of quantity they have to be scheduled in for laser time and with a bajillion other things being cut at the moment I think they're the last of our worries :D
[23:26] <Gadgetoid> Those poor lasers work hard :(
[23:26] <gordonDrogon> isn't the reason its upside down due to display contrast?
[23:26] <ali1234> yes
[23:26] <Gadgetoid> But if you're desperate for reversed legs I can go sleuth for offcuts and see if I can ... do some personal prototyping
[23:27] <ali1234> did you see my reddit post?
[23:27] <Gadgetoid> yup, better contrast the other way up, but I slouch so much it's never bothered me
[23:27] * gordonDrogon doesn't use reddit.
[23:27] <Gadgetoid> I more or less quit reddit in favour of hackernews
[23:27] <gordonDrogon> I have a little lasercutter...
[23:27] <Gadgetoid> I'm not saying it's a lofty high and mighty move because reddit is low quality poop, but I was just spending waaay to much time on it
[23:28] <ali1234> i unsubbed from all the high traffic subreddits
[23:28] <ali1234> basically: https://imgur.com/a/JmLDL
[23:28] <Gadgetoid> What the!?!?
[23:28] <ali1234> it's the story of my 7" display build
[23:29] <ali1234> i probably voided the warranty heh
[23:29] <ali1234> and now i see what you mean about the tolerance on acrylic sheet thickness too
[23:29] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: I also got ovltage warnings in one of your configurations
[23:29] <Gadgetoid> Yeah the tolerance is a pain in the behind
[23:30] <gordonDrogon> it "just worked" for me.
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[23:30] <Gadgetoid> I soldered power wires to the bottom of one of my LCD mounted PI's
[23:31] <Gadgetoid> My desk is surrounded by LCDs, the percentage that have come unstuck is very small, but we've sold enough to make that amount to an appreciable quantity of returns
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[23:32] <ali1234> well, mine won't come unstuck again with all that tape on it
[23:32] <ali1234> it was hard enough to get it open the first time
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[23:35] <ali1234> here's another interesting fact: the backlight brightness is controlled by an AVR, and there's an ISP header on the board. i was able to dump the firmware. the chip is not locked so you can reprogram it.
[23:36] <Gadgetoid> Haha
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[23:36] <Gadgetoid> Yeah I know too much about the LCD, although I didn't know it wasn't locked
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[23:37] <gordonDrogon> didn't know there was an avr on it.
[23:37] <gordonDrogon> but then I never really looked.
[23:37] <ali1234> it's programmed for i2c slave
[23:37] <ali1234> and uses one of the PWM outputs to modulate the backlight power line
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[23:37] <ali1234> very simple code
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[23:37] <gordonDrogon> is the display driver board locked to the supplied 7" display?
[23:38] <ali1234> sort of
[23:38] <gordonDrogon> or are there other displays it can drive?
[23:38] <gordonDrogon> hm.
[23:38] <ali1234> it's a generic DSI to DPI (display parallel interface) converter
[23:38] <gordonDrogon> I have an old laptop...
[23:38] <ali1234> it could drive other displays if you have the right cabling
[23:39] <gordonDrogon> yea, that might be an issue.
[23:39] <ali1234> however, most of the smarts are in the start.elf as usual
[23:39] <gordonDrogon> and that.
[23:39] <ali1234> so you'd probably need a display similar enough that start.elf doesn't notice the difference
[23:39] <gordonDrogon> ah well, lappy's going in the bin then.
[23:39] <ali1234> you cn probably get away with a display the same size and colour depth
[23:39] <ali1234> size as in resolution
[23:40] <gordonDrogon> laptpo is 1280x1024.
[23:40] <ali1234> this is 800x480 i think
[23:40] <gordonDrogon> it is.
[23:40] <ali1234> same as first generation 7" tablets
[23:40] <ali1234> eg nexus 7
[23:40] <gordonDrogon> anyay bed time here.
[23:42] <Gadgetoid> Aye 800x480, small enough that it clips the bottom of far too many GUI applications, including stuff like WiFi config
[23:42] <ali1234> yes, and the ubuntu-mate welcome/setup screen, last time i tried it
[23:42] <Gadgetoid> But I still use them every day, and also OpenPandora is 800x480 so I'm used to it
[23:42] <Gadgetoid> So many things assume >=600 I think, or something slightly less than 768
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[23:43] <ali1234> 1280x800 is common too these days
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[23:43] <Gadgetoid> Was good ol' 1024x768
[23:43] <ali1234> which is like the computer version of 1280x720, aka 720p
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[23:45] <ali1234> i grew up with 640x256 amiga... or 640x512 if you could take the flickering
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[23:48] <Gadgetoid> Sheesh I can't even recall what the C64 resolution was
[23:48] <ali1234> something like 120x96 i think
[23:49] <Gadgetoid> Anyway, the usb bootcode stuff is in the capable hands of the great Mr Hollingworth, maybe it'll tickle him for a lazy Friday fix :D
[23:49] <ali1234> PAL/NTSC with huge borders and double pixels
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[23:50] <Dex-Freudii> does anyone have a sample code for controlling GPIO ports from a webpage hosted by Pi2?
[23:51] <Berg> what web server you gona use Dex-Freudii
[23:51] <Dex-Freudii> apache
[23:51] <Dex-Freudii> unless nginx is better for that purpose
[23:52] <Berg> i USED BOTTLE py
[23:52] <Berg> python web server to control replays
[23:52] <ali1234> python would be an alright choice for this, you can interface the gpios very easily
[23:52] <Berg> its not the same as you wan tbut similar
[23:52] <methuzla> same here, but with tornado
[23:52] <Dex-Freudii> what is tornado?
[23:53] <Berg> django too is also good
[23:53] <methuzla> web framework
[23:53] <methuzla> in python
[23:53] <Berg> all web framworks
[23:53] <ali1234> you could do it with the built-in python webserver rather easily
[23:53] <Berg> is there one?
[23:53] <Dex-Freudii> ali1234, how?
[23:53] <Berg> ooo news
[23:54] <Dex-Freudii> I've already installed apache. should I uninstall it?
[23:54] <ali1234> no.
[23:54] <ali1234> the python webserver isn't really for production use
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[23:55] <ali1234> i once made something like this, let me grep my code archive...
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[23:56] <The_Borg> oops net crash <----berg
[23:56] <The_Borg> whats the built in one ali1234
[23:56] <Dex-Freudii> http://www.instructables.com/id/Simple-and-intuitive-web-interface-for-your-Raspbe/?ALLSTEPS
[23:57] <ali1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14883287/
[23:57] <Dex-Freudii> <?php system ( "gpio mode 0 out" ); system ( "gpio write 0 1" );?>
[23:57] <ali1234> you could adapt that paste. it is completely stand-alone
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[23:58] <Dex-Freudii> thanks
[23:58] <The_Borg> cant copy the paste
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[23:58] <The_Borg> im not a member of dat
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[23:58] <ali1234> just copy paste it
[23:59] <ali1234> don't click "download"
[23:59] <Berg> ok
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[23:59] <methuzla> yes, you could use apache and php, really lots of ways of doing it
[23:59] <ali1234> you have to log in to launchpad for that, because people were abusing the pastebin

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