#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-02-06

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[0:00] <[Saint]> My prediction is that RPF will end up solely in the education sector, and forgo hardware entirely.
[0:00] <[Saint]> But, we'll see.
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[0:02] <ozzzy> does that matter?
[0:02] <[Saint]> For relevance in a raspberrypi-specific channel, ...yes?
[0:03] <[Saint]> Or do you somehow feel the need to white knight RPF for some less than obvious reason?
[0:05] <ozzzy> the platform won't die
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[0:06] <[Saint]> In the same way the obsolete hardware rarely does, no, you're right.
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[0:09] <ozzzy> no hardware is obsolete as long as it performs the task it was designed to
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[0:19] <plugwash> [Saint], what did odriod do this time?
[0:19] <[Saint]> Take a look at the C2 announcement.
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[0:23] <plugwash> mmm, looks nice (though do note that at least in the UK the difference between headline price and real price is substantial for odriod products)
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[0:26] <[Saint]> plugwash: order from Ameridroid.
[0:26] * plugwash doubts that will be an economical option for a UK buyer
[0:26] * ShorTie just might get 1
[0:26] <[Saint]> (though some people have said to me that they have had some less than steller and outright dodgy dealing with them before they became an official reseller)
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[0:29] <ShorTie> they have treated me ok
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[0:30] <plugwash> [Saint], why would I (as a UK buyer) want to buy from ameridroid, that seems like the worst of both worlds paying both a marked up price and the costs of ordering from a retailer outside the EU
[0:31] <[Saint]> Same price, less shipping.
[0:31] <shauno> and prey you don't get stung for import duty
[0:31] <[Saint]> On $40?
[0:31] <[Saint]> ....yeah, suuure.
[0:31] <shauno> oh I get that all the time. anything an post looks like a box of ecigs coming from china
[0:32] <shauno> er, "thinks looks like .."
[0:32] <shauno> then I get to pay import, vat (seperately!), and a 10eur handling fee.
[0:32] <plugwash> you probablly won't get charged inport duty but you likely will get chared import VAT
[0:32] <plugwash> and more significantly get charged a fee for collecting the import VAT
[0:32] <shauno> it actually bugs me more on cheap things because their charges end up being more than I bought some random stuff from china for
[0:33] <[Saint]> Well, I maintain, that regardless of people that live in locales that make this potentially questionably due to their locale being objectively retarded - this is a very good thing.
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[0:35] <plugwash> i'm not saying that the C2 is bad, just saying that for UK customers it won't be "$5 more than a pi"
[0:35] <plugwash> elsewhere YMMV
[0:36] <shauno> that's just my pet gripe because I keep getting electronics stopped and labelled as ecigs. last time it happened was a pack of breadboards from dealextreme.
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[0:41] <[Saint]> shauno: y'know you can dispute that, right?
[0:41] <[Saint]> You don't have to just take it ont he shin and say "Oh well..."
[0:41] <shauno> dispute what? being charged vat is legit.
[0:41] <[Saint]> *on the chin
[0:42] <shauno> they just seem to be stopping more because the flow of ecigs from china apparently outweighs lone nerds
[0:42] <[Saint]> Hmmm, I must have misparsed it. I read it as though you were being chaged an additional fee on top (aside from VAT) for it being an eCig (potentially).
[0:43] <shauno> nah. that's just why they're stopping more in the last year or so.
[0:43] <shauno> I've had more packages stopped in the last year, than the 9 years before combined
[0:44] <ozzzy> Canada customs just opens a package and looks
[0:44] <DWKnight> if they can't tell from their xray/whatever
[0:44] <[Saint]> NZ too.
[0:44] <[Saint]> Even _if_ they can X-ray it safely and effectively, it'll still 9 times out of 10 be manually reviewed.
[0:45] <shauno> ours don't seem to open them. if it's just revenue, they just want a receipt. it's if they think it's contraband that it gets openned
[0:45] <[Saint]> Which for NZ customs seems to be everything.
[0:45] <shauno> so there's that at least. I guess breadboards don't excite the dogs
[0:46] <Chillum> in my experience about 10% of things that require duty have it charged
[0:46] <Chillum> not counting physically large items
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[2:01] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
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[3:32] <Valduare> hows it going tonight guys
[3:33] <deww> seems to be going quiet :d
[3:34] <plugwash> most brits have probablly gone to bed
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[3:35] <plugwash> and not everyone keeps a laptop on their bedside cabinet
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[3:35] <ozzzy> how do they watch pr0n then?
[3:36] <Valduare> no irc on the iphones eh ?
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[3:43] <Valduare> im looking for a fun project do do tonight iwth my pi zero
[3:43] <Valduare> any suggestions?
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[4:00] <Mead> Valduare: start to finish tonight?
[4:00] <Valduare> sure
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[4:49] <JakeSays> hey anyone aware of an attempt to get darwin running on a pi?
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[4:51] <Xark> JakeSays: No...but Google does show this -> https://github.com/darwin-on-arm
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[4:51] <JakeSays> Xark: ah cool - thanks!
[4:52] <Xark> JakeSays: Hmm, seems it support RPi too -> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52718&p=447732
[4:52] <JakeSays> i'll have to give it a go
[4:52] <JakeSays> heh. excellent!
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[4:53] <JakeSays> i need to do some dylib research, so this would be perfect
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[5:24] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
[5:25] <Valduare> o/
[5:26] <[Saint]> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[5:27] <sir_galahad_ad> how are things Valduare ?
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[5:28] * sir_galahad_ad tries to think up a pi project...isn't very good at that sort of thing
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[5:33] <Berg> thinking up a project is a very personal thing one cant suggest others to do this or that
[5:33] <Valduare> I have an old 10T 12 port ethernet hub I can desolder bunch of components from
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[5:33] <Valduare> who wants to buy 12 10T ethernet filter chips lol
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[5:34] <sir_galahad_ad> heh
[5:34] <sir_galahad_ad> what was the coax version of ethernet?
[5:37] <Valduare> this has a bmc coaxial port too
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[5:38] <sir_galahad_ad> yeah, but it wasn't 10T
[5:38] <sir_galahad_ad> 10base2 i think?
[5:38] <sir_galahad_ad> it's been so long
[5:39] <sir_galahad_ad> i never really messed with it in HS i had an IT class that was just moving away from coax ethernet when i started it so we're talking 1998 or so.
[5:39] <Valduare> back in those days, I lived litterally in a cabin in middle of nowhere heh
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[5:44] <sir_galahad_ad> Valduare: did you happen to have a certain book of the dead in this cabin?
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[5:55] <Valduare> lol
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[5:57] <sir_galahad_ad> klaatu barada nicto!
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[5:59] <Valduare> day the earth stood still?
[5:59] <sir_galahad_ad> yes and no
[6:01] <sir_galahad_ad> the line was re-used in the crap tastic evil dead sequel 'army of darkness'
[6:02] <sir_galahad_ad> the hero was supposed to say the line before retrieving said book-of-the-dead from a magic altar
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[6:06] <Valduare> ah
[6:07] <sir_galahad_ad> ok so i bought a 7" monitor on adafruit a while back
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[6:08] <Valduare> oh ya?
[6:08] <sir_galahad_ad> it has of course a driver board and another little board to make navigate typical monitor menus contrast and the like.
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[6:10] <sir_galahad_ad> what are the chances one could easily connect gpio pins to the little boards connector and navigate the screen options from the pi?
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[6:11] <nsgn> goodevening. anyone in here using a pi-zero with a USB ethernet adapter? if so i've got a question or two about throughput in real world use
[6:12] <sir_galahad_ad> nsgn: i don't even have a zero, but most of the discussion i've seen here tended to be geared toward wireless ethernet
[6:13] <nsgn> of course. makes lots of sense for the pi being so small. just happen to do a lot of work with networks and was curious if the pi zero with a usb ethernet adapter could be used to do network speed tests/diagnostics or if it was incapable of processing fast enough
[6:13] <Valduare> sir_galahad_ad: arnt… the buttons suppose to be for real world navigation of the menu though heh
[6:14] <Valduare> nsgn: I use a cirago bluetooth wifi/bluetooth combo dongle with my pi zero
[6:15] <nsgn> do you run a gui on it? if so could you tell me how fast speedtest.net or similar goes for you on the pi vs what it can do on a computer? just trying to get an idea here whether the pi is appropriate for my project
[6:15] <sir_galahad_ad> Valduare: yes, but if i'm plugging a keyboard into the thing anyway i'll have buttons galore! and having the extra board off to the side was getting in my way so i've bene just doing without
[6:15] <sir_galahad_ad> *been
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[6:48] <[Saint]> "Oh, hey for leaving that $80 filet of venison roast out on the bench to defrost, it was great!" - Cats
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[6:49] <[Saint]> *hey thanks
[6:50] <[Saint]> (not that I'm confident they would actually say thanks...more like "perform duty, hoomanz!")
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[7:35] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Morning
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[7:40] <Valduare> sir_galahad_ad: well buttons are mainly just switches so I suppose you could use transistors in lieu of them
[7:40] <Valduare> or get real fancy, and use silenoids to activate the buttons haha
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[9:32] <Xark> Hmm, interesting tiny OTG adapter https://www.adafruit.com/products/2910
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[9:33] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> morning..
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[10:15] <mixfix41> I was thinking of just throwing rasplex on the pi 2 but Maybe I should test it with another os again arch linux was pretty functional
[10:16] <mixfix41> then theres the quake port if theres more
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[10:26] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> mixfix41: why not using osmc?
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[10:55] <agopo> Has anyone here tried streaming twitch.tv on his Raspberry Pi 2 via livestreamer + VLC? Because I've tried and it's lagging and stuttering so bad, it's unwatchable. Am I doing something wrong?
[10:55] <ShorTie> nop, pi's are not known for net traffic because everything goes thru the usb
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[10:58] <ShorTie> cut the resolution back, most likely will help
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[11:03] <dersand> I cannot log onto my ssh server as root, the PermitRootLogin is set to yes, and if do ssh root@ip, the password is never right. I have a default password for my rasp, but is that the same as pi? Whenever i type sudo, is that the root's password or the pi's?
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[11:04] <agopo> ShorTie: Will try that, thanks
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[11:10] <selckin> dersand: sudo is the users password not root
[11:10] <selckin> dersand: su is the root password
[11:10] <selckin> dersand: sudo passwd, to change the password
[11:11] <dersand> Is the password for root set by default?
[11:11] <selckin> probably not
[11:11] <dersand> so sudo passwd changed the ROOT's pass, not the user?
[11:11] <selckin> yes
[11:12] <ScrumpyJack> can anyone get to pimoroni.com or is it just me
[11:13] <pksato> ScrumpyJack: ok here.
[11:13] <ScrumpyJack> http://pimoroni.com ?
[11:14] <ScrumpyJack> ah, shop.pimoroni.com works :)
[11:14] <pksato> yes. http://pimoroni.com redirect to shop.pimoroni.com
[11:16] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> someone here running transwhat successfully and without crashed like disconnecting?
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[11:18] <ScrumpyJack> ah, my browser doesn't redirect
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[11:20] <ScrumpyJack> the python scripts on the pimoroni github pages are a bit dense, are there any other "lite" scripts available for learning i wonder?
[11:20] <ScrumpyJack> for the unicorn hat
[11:21] <ScrumpyJack> my audeince is an 8 year old :)
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[11:24] <_mak> No way to search the channel logs I guess right:
[11:24] <_mak> ?
[11:26] <TandyUK> _mak: http://srv.datagutt1.com
[11:26] <_mak> ignore me. I found google :)
[11:26] <TandyUK> like it says in the topic
[11:26] <_mak> TandyUK: yeah, but I could not figure out how to search it
[11:26] <_mak> I've used: inurl:http://srv.datagutt1.com/ RTL8188CUS
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[11:36] <_mak> I can't manage to make this antenna work on my raspberry 2: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00VLA9FEA
[11:36] <_mak> is there a way to check if it is compatible or not?
[11:38] <selckin> Norz: 1.Mac、Linux and Windows10 systems are not supported
[11:38] <selckin> it says so right on the page you linked
[11:38] <selckin> "You cant use this device on windows 10 or Linux its not compatible"
[11:38] <selckin> READING IS HARD
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[11:51] <SpeedEvil> Has anyone been playing with booting linux on 3 cores of a PI2, and using the remaining one as a GPIO controller?
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[11:54] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73XNtI0w7jA - related (though long) on using this approach on linux on commoditiy hardware to do stupid-scale networking
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[12:00] <dersand> Erm, probably not related to raspberry pi as a whole but i added my public key on my raspberry ssh server. I can successfully log in to root@ip, but not pi@ip. It just gives permission denied(public key)
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[12:01] <selckin> check the log, common problem is wrong file premissions
[12:02] <selckin> of the authorised_keys file or .Ssh
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[12:04] <dersand> in authorized_keys i only have a "b" inside the file, should it be there?
[12:05] <pksato> dersand: no, just a list to keys per line (big line)
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[12:11] <dersand> i just removed authorized_keys, i can still log into the server with my private key, isn't the authorized_keys the file to store that?
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[12:13] <turtlehat> is it the .ssh in the root directory then?
[12:13] <turtlehat> .ssh/authorized_keys
[12:13] <pksato> dersand: from correr user file? not using shared socket/connection?
[12:14] <pksato> correct user
[12:14] <dersand> /home/user/.ssh/authorized
[12:15] <dersand> Oh there is another one inside /root
[12:15] <dersand> should i cp it to regular user's?
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[12:15] <pksato> it is per user
[12:15] <pksato> if is on root home, is only for root
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[12:15] <dersand> i did ssh-copy id root@ip, should i ssh-copy-id pi@ip as well?
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[12:17] <pksato> only user that remote connect to ssh.
[12:18] <pksato> need to remove on remote host.
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[12:18] <turtlehat> dersand, if you want to log in wiht a private key as pi, yes
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[12:22] <NicoHood> i have some very weird problem with linux and sd cards. one sd card does not work at all (and worked before.) i cannot write data at all. i tried usb and internal laptop adapter. the other sd card works, but lsblk always shows a 3,6gb parition. fdisk shows the right partitions. i cannot mount them because of this bug. even if i delete the partitions and replug the dapater/sd card it shows a 3,6gb partition. whats wrong?
[12:23] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> SD card broken :)
[12:24] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> NicoHood, always think about making backups on harddrives
[12:24] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> unfortunaltey often SD cards break cause if the numerous write/read processes
[12:24] <NicoHood> so it seems that the os reads the card wrong and thatswhy the /dev/sdx entry is also wrong. and thatswhy it cannot be mounted. fdisk will check the mbr and can properly mount it. from another pc (raspi) it can be mounted correct.
[12:24] <ShorTie> did you try formatting them in windows with SDFormatter ??
[12:25] <NicoHood> i do not have windows
[12:25] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> win32disk?
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[12:25] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> o.. ok
[12:25] <NicoHood> i tried with my linux x64 btw. the raspi works
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[12:26] <NicoHood> i want to create a new fat partition for noobs. (on my x64). but then the error occurs. however the pi itself can read the partitions and write to them. so the card is not borken
[12:26] <NicoHood> and i did this several times before too. its not that i am a linux fool
[12:26] <NicoHood> also it happens with usb adapter and internal mmcblk adapter
[12:26] <NicoHood> could it be a wrong kernal patch?
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[12:27] <ShorTie> have you tried making a new mbr with fdisk and just 1 partition like ext4 and formatting it then ??
[12:27] <heller_> can i use internal pulldown with outputs?
[12:27] <NicoHood> i tried fdisk, used d and w. fdisk then shows the correct partitions but lsblk not
[12:28] <ShorTie> start off with o
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[12:28] <pksato> NicoHood: 3.6 is a disc or partition size? lsblk
[12:29] <NicoHood> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=512 count=1
[12:29] <NicoHood> i did that
[12:29] <NicoHood> lsblk then shows
[12:29] <NicoHood> sdc 8:32 1 29,5G 0 disk
[12:29] <NicoHood> └─sdc1 8:33 1 3,6G 0 part
[12:29] <NicoHood> even after i replug
[12:29] <NicoHood> fdisk shows no partition
[12:30] <NicoHood> so writing works, but the os still recognizes this 3.6 gb partition
[12:30] <pksato> NicoHood: after dd still lsblk show same info?
[12:30] <NicoHood> yes!!! so weird
[12:30] <NicoHood> this should not happen
[12:30] <pksato> damanged sd card.
[12:30] <pksato> no more accept writing.
[12:30] <NicoHood> but then it would be the 2nd sd card that is dead??
[12:30] <NicoHood> i mean one broke yesterday and the other today?
[12:31] <NicoHood> also fidisk works.
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[12:31] <pksato> try badblocks -w
[12:31] <NicoHood> i will try with a raspi to do the same operations now to confirm
[12:31] <ShorTie> the mbr could be messed up, that is why i say start fdisk off with a o
[12:31] <tohipfortheroom> im loving the new 4.5-rc2 kernel
[12:32] <tohipfortheroom> also hi raspberry pi brothers and sisters
[12:32] <NicoHood> lsblk on raspi gives me an empty 29,5gb sda (no partition)
[12:32] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> tohipfortheroom, whats the pleasure of this kernel bro?
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[12:33] <NicoHood> plugging it back into my laptop gives me the 3.6gb partition
[12:33] <NicoHood> it also happened with another sd card. so my kernel messes things up on the x64 laptop?
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[12:33] <tohipfortheroom> its just so quick and it has OpenGL support and i could go for a while
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[12:34] <tohipfortheroom> its the first kernel for raspberry pi thats been upstreamed into the official linux kernel
[12:34] <NicoHood> sudo badblocks -w /dev/sdc
[12:34] <NicoHood> like this?
[12:35] <pksato> yes, no.
[12:35] <pksato> sudo badblocks -vw /dev/sdc
[12:35] <NicoHood> i started it. can i abort it?
[12:36] <pksato> yes. crtl+c as usual
[12:36] <pksato> but, -v is only to show some progress
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[12:40] <NicoHood> this will take some time. it writes 32gb i think
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[12:42] <tohipfortheroom> NicoHood: what are you guys doing?
[12:42] <NicoHood> my sd card cannot be read from my x64 linux.
[12:42] <NicoHood> lsblk always displays the same partition table
[12:42] <NicoHood> even though i change it
[12:42] <NicoHood> even on different adapters
[12:43] <ShorTie> changed or made new ??
[12:43] <NicoHood> but the sd is not broken in my opinion. on raspi it work and i can write to it
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[12:43] <pksato> pcb Mini-Factory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDTOBbg9ZXU
[12:44] <tohipfortheroom> thats an interesting bug, does it work on different computers ?
[12:44] <NicoHood> it started yesterday when i could not write to the other sd card at all. and totay this one also has problems, but i still can write to it
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[12:44] <NicoHood> yeah, the raspi can read it. i concern this as different pc
[12:44] <tohipfortheroom> agreed
[12:44] <NicoHood> i recently had a kernel update. i might want to reboot with the old kernel
[12:44] <tohipfortheroom> what kernel?
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[12:44] <tohipfortheroom> 4.1?
[12:44] <NicoHood> Linux linuxpc 3.16.0-60-generic #80~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 20 13:37:48 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:45] <ShorTie> the foundation uses a non-standard partition table, that is why i say to try making a new 1
[12:45] <NicoHood> i dont use their parition table. i triedthat all. i am currently struggling with the sd card itself, no pi images at all
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[12:46] <NicoHood> i cannot create a simple fat partition. well i can, but it does not display it as such
[12:46] <NicoHood> just on another pc its displayed correct
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[12:46] <tohipfortheroom> do you have gparted installed?
[12:46] <NicoHood> yeah
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[12:47] <tohipfortheroom> does that display it correctly
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[12:47] <NicoHood> the badblocks test is currently running
[12:47] <NicoHood> is this a problem if i also open gparted?
[12:48] <tohipfortheroom> gparted should just register the device
[12:48] <NicoHood> gparted displays it correct
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[12:49] <NicoHood> it displays no partition. fdisk too. lsblk still displays the 3.6gb partition. ls /dev/sdc* also gives those sdc1 partition
[12:50] <NicoHood> and because of this error i also cannot mount the device
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[12:53] <ShorTie> have you ever had a foundation image on it/them ??
[12:54] <NicoHood> of course
[12:54] <NicoHood> but i destroyed the mbr if you looked at the top
[12:55] <ShorTie> what happens if you try to write a new image to it ??
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[12:57] <NicoHood> i have to try this later
[12:58] <NicoHood> currently still checking bad blocks
[12:58] <ShorTie> that will make a new mbr
[12:58] <NicoHood> while that i tried the other sd card. the other sd card is really brokenn. i cannot even write a new partition table to it
[12:58] <NicoHood> it feels like it read only
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[12:59] <NicoHood> so i have 1 sd card read only and one sd card write only (cannot read new written data) :D
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[13:02] <ShorTie> and they worked fine before plugging them into that x64 machine ??
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[13:04] <NicoHood> they worked before even with the x64 machine
[13:05] <NicoHood> just at some point (yesterday) they started to act weird (like some girls, you know)
[13:05] <ShorTie> thought you said you upgrade the x64 kernel
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[13:08] <NicoHood> yep i did
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[13:10] <ShorTie> you made it ??
[13:10] <ShorTie> where did you get the config from ??
[13:13] <NicoHood> huh? i just did a normal ubuntu lts kernel upgrade
[13:13] <ShorTie> oh, ok
[13:13] <ShorTie> didn't know if you compile it yourself
[13:15] <tohipfortheroom> i love compiling my own kernels
[13:16] <ShorTie> can be fun and alot more slimlined to your use
[13:17] <tohipfortheroom> i recently compiled the latest kernel for the pi, with BFS
[13:17] <tohipfortheroom> its lean and mean
[13:18] <ShorTie> Cool
[13:18] <tohipfortheroom> and it has OpenGL support
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[13:27] <NicoHood> what is bfs?
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[13:27] <NicoHood> you mean 4.5?
[13:27] <^74NK> Any easy method of cross compiling sdcard images on WIN?
[13:27] <NicoHood> sudo badblocks -vw /dev/sdc
[13:27] <NicoHood> Checking for bad blocks in read-write mode
[13:27] <NicoHood> From block 0 to 30915583
[13:27] <NicoHood> Testing with pattern 0xaa: done
[13:27] <NicoHood> Reading and comparing: done
[13:27] <NicoHood> Testing with pattern 0x55:
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[13:27] <NicoHood> so it seems that 0xaa run without errors?
[13:28] <^74NK> Any easy method of cross compiling sdcard images on WIN?
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[13:28] <tohipfortheroom> yeah 4.5 and Brian funk Scheduler
[13:28] <NicoHood> oh i heard about that. does this really improve a lot?
[13:28] <ShorTie> bfs is a file system
[13:29] <tohipfortheroom> in the chromium port it really improved performance
[13:30] <DoctorD90> yo ShorTie :P may I ask you a little favor? :P
[13:30] <ShorTie> sure
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[13:30] <DoctorD90> may you countdonw from 10, then just write my nick? :P im checking highlight settings :P
[13:31] <DoctorD90> thx :D
[13:31] <ShorTie> DoctorD90 ??
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[13:31] <DoctorD90> great :P it works :D finally !! solved!
[13:31] <DoctorD90> thx ShorTie :)
[13:32] <ShorTie> No Problem
[13:34] <DoctorD90> ShorTie, just because we are here.....do you know how may I send command wireless to a device? i mean, a quadcopter with a rpi....wifi seems it is not a good idea.
[13:34] <DoctorD90> even if industries are making the lowfi that reach very great distance.....
[13:35] <ShorTie> you mean like joy stick movements ??
[13:35] <DoctorD90> but i should check about specs of lowfi
[13:35] <DoctorD90> yes
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[13:36] <ShorTie> i'd get/use a real rc transmiter
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[13:36] <DoctorD90> may you also suggest any yet supported board? :)
[13:36] <ShorTie> they are now 2.4ghz and binding
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[13:37] <ShorTie> board ??
[13:37] <DoctorD90> yes....the ID of some board
[13:37] <DoctorD90> for rc
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[13:37] <NicoHood> i think i possibly found a reason for my borken sd card: https://github.com/raspberrypi/noobs/issues/262
[13:37] <DoctorD90> i mean like dht22 for temperature reading
[13:37] <ShorTie> i normally use futaba stuff
[13:38] <DoctorD90> uhm...ok i google futaba :D
[13:39] <DoctorD90> lol! i have googled and understand xD
[13:39] <DoctorD90> they seems a little quite expensive xD
[13:39] <DoctorD90> i was thinking at a think a bit more "home made" :P
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[13:42] <pksato> scale model hobbyist use futaba or similar systems. All is done, just connect servos and batts.
[13:42] <ShorTie> how much fun do you want to have with it ??
[13:42] <ShorTie> or do you just want to see it lift off the ground to say you did it ??
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[13:44] <ShorTie> cause it isn't gonna be cheap to build your own
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[13:44] <DoctorD90> ShorTie, what do you mean?
[13:45] <DoctorD90> cheap what? controller?
[13:45] <DoctorD90> or the entire system?
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[13:45] <DoctorD90> i was thinking to a stuff like server-client
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[13:45] <DoctorD90> i send command from pc, and rpi(on quadpi) do it
[13:46] <ShorTie> the entire thing
[13:46] <DoctorD90> but, id need a board to send command over rc, and a board to receive them over rc :P
[13:46] <DoctorD90> rpi as controller, motors should coming, frame too....id only need to code it :P
[13:47] <DoctorD90> (lunch time,,,,i will be back in a few time ^_^)
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[14:06] <Skyrider> What is the best way to give the pi2 a static address?
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[14:07] <Skyrider> The tutorials I found thus far on google shows to edit /etc/network/interfaces and iface eth0 inet, but its set to manual rather than dhcp
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[14:09] <ShorTie> i use the router
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[14:21] <DoctorD90> Skyrider, do as ShorTie using settings in router, or use interfaces like in your tutorial :P
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[14:26] <Skyrider> ya, I've done so, thanks :D
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[14:27] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> Hello all! Anyone had any issues with sixaxis for PS3 controllers interfering with wifi when on?
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[14:29] <NicoHood> badblocks outputs tons of numbers
[14:29] <NicoHood> does this mean my sd card is broken?
[14:29] <NicoHood> i can also no write to it
[14:30] <NicoHood> i did badblock -vw
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[14:36] <pksato> NicoHood: if are lots on lines with numebers, yes. SD is broken.
[14:37] <NicoHood> it scrolls nonstop
[14:37] <NicoHood> looks like i will send it back to amazon
[14:37] <NicoHood> the funny thing the sd card is newer and broken again
[14:37] <NicoHood> and the same model that i used many more times is still alive
[14:37] <pksato> brand?
[14:37] <NicoHood> transcend
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[14:38] <pksato> Its is not counterfeit?
[14:38] <NicoHood> nope
[14:38] <NicoHood> its from amazon
[14:39] <NicoHood> its almost 1 year old now
[14:39] <ozzzy> 'from amazon' means nothing
[14:39] <NicoHood> i think i still have guarantee
[14:39] <pksato> amazon guaranty
[14:39] <pksato> amazon seling fake books.
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[14:40] <pksato> http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/warning-counterfeit-copies-of-art-of-electronics/
[14:40] <pksato> as exemple
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[14:46] <NicoHood> i phoned them. will get my money back
[14:46] <NicoHood> =)
[14:50] <Bilby> the problem is even buying from amazon is no guarantee as they’re now allowing resellers to drop ship directly, so even though it says ‘by amazon’ on it the package was never in their hands :|
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[15:12] <jayden> hey, could someone help me out with sending fceux video over the gpio video? ive got a screen but it wont show the video over it, unsure if its even possible
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[15:23] <_mak> selckin: I read that before purchasing it, but I thought, 'what these sellers know about this... linux has every conceivable driver...'
[15:23] <_mak> :(
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[15:23] <_mak> and they are referring to an specific feature there
[15:24] <buZz> does anyone know where i can find information about connecting a LCD directly on GPIO and have it interface with GPU?
[15:24] <_mak> the antenna itself should work fine... it works on windows 10
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[15:26] <_mak> selckin: they say that the 5Ghz feature is not supported on linux, not the antenna, as far as I understand it
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[15:26] <buZz> 5ghz on linux is kinda experimental yeah
[15:26] <buZz> not enough users to debug it fully
[15:28] <_mak> yeah... all I'm trying to do is to get the antenna working... in the most basic mode possible :)
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[15:29] <_mak> but I ran out of ideas.. I tried downgrading the firmware version but that did not work as well
[15:29] <_mak> :(
[15:29] <buZz> where you say 'antenna' , you actually ment 'network device' right
[15:29] <_mak> yes
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[15:29] <selckin> _mak: wifi dongles are the most non standard pieces of shit you'll ever buy
[15:29] <buZz> i'd just grab another usb wifi thing
[15:30] <_mak> the thing is, is shows in the lsusb and the module loads, but the module is not used by anything
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[15:30] <_mak> selckin: what's the alternative?
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[15:30] <_mak> buZz: yeah, I'll do that at some point
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[15:31] <buZz> man > The screens and displays section of the forum probably spends about half its time discussing raw-pin TFT displays
[15:31] <buZz> -where- on forum is this
[15:31] <buZz> :/
[15:32] <buZz> such chaos
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[15:32] <_mak> just got a new antenna: http://www.amazon.co.uk/CSL-SuperSpeed-Wireless-detachable-frequency/dp/B015Z8EWGY/
[15:32] <buZz> its not an antenna
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[15:32] <selckin> _mak: none that i kno wof :(
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[15:33] <_mak> my rasp has a small usb dongle, which I think gets up to 75MB of speed.. I just need something faster
[15:33] <buZz> highly doubt you do 75 megabyte a second
[15:34] <jayden> okay, so, i cant get x to show up on my gpio touchscreen display, its complaining about not being able to find a screen
[15:34] <buZz> also 75 megabit is pretty close to max speed usb on raspi can do
[15:34] <buZz> jayden: its complaining about lack of xorg configuration
[15:34] <buZz> in which you would configure a screen
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[15:34] <jayden> how do i configure it?
[15:35] <buZz> jayden: this seems applicable; https://github.com/notro/fbtft/wiki/Framebuffer-use
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[15:36] <jayden> alright, ill give that a shot
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[15:37] <_mak> buZz: what you mean? the speed doesn't depent on the wifi device?
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[15:37] <buZz> _mak: its a funnel
[15:37] <buZz> USB on pi is slow
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[15:37] <buZz> cause the cpu is ancient tech
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[15:50] <jayden> alright, cannot figure out for the life of me how to configure x with this lcd
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[15:58] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
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[16:08] <Bandou> hello there do someone know a good guide for building a cnc machine with rpi ?!
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[16:10] <buZz> Bandou: ignore the 'with rpi' part
[16:10] <buZz> Bandou: 'linuxcnc' community has a lot of documents
[16:11] <Bandou> buZz: isn't possible to dirve it with adruino + rpi ?
[16:12] <buZz> yes but thats beside the point
[16:12] <buZz> the issue in 'building a cnc' is not in which linux machine you use to drive it ;)
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[16:13] <Bandou> ah fine, touche. i will look up some informations in 'linuxcnc'
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[16:22] <buZz> <3
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[16:31] <lilalinux> I just installed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi and booted but apparently that distro doesn't come with ssh. Unfortunately I have no USB keyboard :-) How can I install SSH via the sd card?
[16:32] <sir_galahad_ad> eeeeeh
[16:34] <sir_galahad_ad> you have another linux box?
[16:34] <lilalinux> sure
[16:35] <sir_galahad_ad> is it also ubuntu?
[16:36] <lilalinux> Ubuntu 15.04
[16:36] <lilalinux> but only my OS X has a card reader :-)
[16:36] <lilalinux> I could use qemu
[16:36] * Polymorphism removes more hairs from scalp
[16:36] <lilalinux> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/23675/install-raspbian-packages-directly-from-ubuntu-with-chroot-to-raspbian-file-syst
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[16:38] <shauno> I'd copy the image to the linux machine, operate on that, and then use osx to write it back to the card. it sounds like more work, but compared to trying to operate on the card under osx ..
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[16:39] <lilalinux> :-)
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[16:39] <sir_galahad_ad> lilalinux: it looks to me like you could get a deb of arm ssh extract the files from it and repack it with information to install on your SD card, but i'm a little fuzzy on the details
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[16:40] <lilalinux> At first I'll give qemu a try
[16:40] <sir_galahad_ad> k
[16:40] <lilalinux> copying the image to the linux box will be my 2nd choice
[16:41] <sir_galahad_ad> what ever works :)
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[16:41] <lilalinux> why on earth doesn't ubuntu dedicated to raspberry pi come without a SSH server? %-)
[16:41] <lilalinux> s/without/with
[16:42] <lilalinux> Ist that ext3?
[16:42] <Polymorphism> what?
[16:42] <sir_galahad_ad> lets be fair for a second lilalinux most people do have a USB keyboard they can use to setup new images as they wish
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[16:42] <lilalinux> :-D
[16:42] <Polymorphism> systemctl enable sshd?
[16:42] <shauno> well, that, and the ubuntu images are trying to provide a desktop. headless isn't its primary use-case
[16:43] <lilalinux> Polymorphism: I haven't got a usb keyboard :-)
[16:43] <Polymorphism> headless the the only way to roll
[16:43] <lilalinux> I have a display though
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[16:43] <Polymorphism> usb keyboard is as essential a tool as a multimeter
[16:43] <lilalinux> and I have a bluetooth keyboard
[16:43] <Polymorphism> I think wireless bluetooth kb mouse combos about 10 dollars free shipping on amazon
[16:44] <Polymorphism> I use one untiul my pi is headless
[16:44] <Polymorphism> then I use ssh from there
[16:44] <shauno> but he needs something to set the bt up with ;)
[16:44] <Polymorphism> I'm actually using my pi as a lamp stack right now and using it to work in the cloud on my hw from class via ssh =)
[16:44] <Polymorphism> ah
[16:44] <Polymorphism> lilalinux,
[16:44] <Polymorphism> you could burn an image with sshd already enabled
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[16:45] <lilalinux> Polymorphism: and that was my initial question
[16:45] <Polymorphism> or add a startup script to enable it
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[16:45] <lilalinux> but at first I have to teach my OSX ext3
[16:45] <lilalinux> or ext4?
[16:45] <Polymorphism> teach it?
[16:46] <Polymorphism> to burn the image you mean?
[16:46] <lilalinux> to read the image
[16:46] <lilalinux> mount
[16:47] <Polymorphism> crontab can execute scripts on reboot
[16:47] <lilalinux> I know :-)
[16:47] <Polymorphism> anyway
[16:47] <Polymorphism> this is the wrong place for this issue
[16:47] <lilalinux> but at first, I need to mount the image
[16:47] <Polymorphism> #linux
[16:47] <Polymorphism> probably get more help there
[16:47] <Polymorphism> also #ubuntu
[16:47] <Polymorphism> ##linux
[16:47] <Polymorphism> two # =D
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[16:48] <Polymorphism> well I shopuldnt say wrong
[16:48] <Polymorphism> I meant, not ideal
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[16:53] <lilalinux> fuse-ext2 works fine
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[17:06] <Amadiro> Evening. Is there a way to configure the pi (alsa, presumably?) to play all audio through both the HDMI and the jack audio output?
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[17:14] <shauno> Amadiro: it should be possible, something along these lines; http://www.6by9.net/output-to-multiple-audio-devices-with-alsa/
[17:15] <Amadiro> shauno, thanks, I'll have a closer look.
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[17:43] <ScrumpyJack> is there a way to remove the window manager offset from minecroft pi?
[17:44] <buZz> which windowmanager do you use?
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[17:46] <ScrumpyJack> whatever raspbian comes with.
[17:47] <ScrumpyJack> lxde
[17:48] <ScrumpyJack> i must be in the wondow manger config files
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[18:19] <Jidoor> is there some way to wake up the display from ssh?
[18:19] <Jidoor> now i must plug in keyboard and press a key to get desktop visible when it goes black
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[18:20] <Chillum> Jidoor: I used to use a macro tool to do that
[18:21] <Chillum> let me see if I can find the name
[18:21] <Chillum> it would move the mouse for you
[18:22] <Chillum> something like: DISPLAY=:0.0 xdotool mousemove 1 1
[18:22] <Chillum> after installing xdotool of course
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[18:22] <Jidoor> oh interesting
[18:22] <Chillum> as far as the x server is concerned you moved a mouse
[18:23] <Chillum> though you may need to use different coordinates next time or it won't actually move because it was already there
[18:24] <Chillum> ahh, forget mouse movement. Just send a shift keystroke
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[18:24] <Chillum> that is nice and passive
[18:25] <Chillum> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/xdotool.1.html
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[18:38] <postaL> CHILLUM
[18:38] <postaL> makes me wanna smoke.
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[18:38] <Chillum> POSTAL
[18:38] <Chillum> makes me want to ship stuff
[18:38] <postaL> :)
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[18:42] <Jidoor> anyone had success getting an url with youtube-dl and playing it with omxplayer?
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[18:43] <Chillum> ya, there is a way, let me find it
[18:44] <Chillum> you use the program youtube-dl
[18:44] <Chillum> and pipe it into a FIFO and play the FIFO with omx
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[18:48] <Chillum> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=63632
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[18:53] <Jidoor> i did the thing in first post but when i feed the link to omxplayer nothing happens
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[18:53] <Jidoor> with the -o o flags i got the stream to stdout but not sure how to get omxplayer to play that
[18:55] <Jidoor> got it
[18:55] <Jidoor> had to quote the url
[18:56] <Jidoor> seeking kills the video is there any way around that?
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[19:02] <agopo> I just watched twitch.tv/protech using livestreamer + omxplayer and I can't believe how well that works.
[19:03] <agopo> It's effing sorcery
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[19:11] <Jidoor> yea this youtube stream seems to work really smoothly too
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[19:16] <heller_> anyone had issues with PWM?
[19:16] <heller_> im seeing some flickerin with my led
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> hardware pwm?
[19:16] <heller_> even if it is 60Hz
[19:16] <heller_> software i guess
[19:16] <heller_> its pretty random flickering
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> what library/code to enable the PWM?
[19:17] <heller_> http://pastebin.com/ayxqiLdv
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[19:17] <SpeedEvil> :)
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea exactly what RPi.GPIO does to set the PWM - I presume that's using the hardware.
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> if you have wiringPi installed then: gpio mode 1 pwm ; gpio pwm 1 512 # set to half - default range is 0-1024
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> that will test it without writing any code.
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[19:19] <heller_> i remember someone saying that all pins are not hardware?
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> that's right only bcm_gpio 18 & one other who's number escapes me right now.
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> the '1' in my gpio commands is wiringPi pin 1 = bcm_gpio 18.
[19:19] <heller_> hmm
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> so gpio -g mode 18 pwm is the same
[19:19] <heller_> actually it is pin 18
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> try that for the command-line if you can.
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[19:20] <gordonDrogon> then gpio -g pwm 18 10 # 0-1024
[19:20] <heller_> works
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> so much be something in either your code or the way you're calling the pwm stuff in rpi.gpio ...
[19:21] <heller_> i mean at least it works :
[19:21] <heller_> :)
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[19:21] <heller_> python code works too if not scrolling it
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[19:24] <gordonDrogon> I wonder if the python code always use a software PWM then...
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[19:26] <methuzla> "Although hardware PWM is not available yet, software PWM is available to use on all channels."
[19:27] <methuzla> http://sourceforge.net/p/raspberry-gpio-python/code/ci/default/tree/README.txt
[19:27] <methuzla> seems so, rpi.gpio PWM = software
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[19:28] <micah> hi, i've got a raspb2, with a gpio IR receiver plugged into the right pins, the lirc_rpi module is loaded, dmesg shows: lirc_rpi: auto-detected active high receiver on GPIO pin 18 - I killed lircd and run mode2 -d /dev/lirc0 - but I see nothing
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[19:31] <gordonDrogon> one of these days I'll read up on using the dma engine to let me do 'firmware' pwm on any pin...
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[19:54] <heller_> methuzla: sure seems so
[19:54] <heller_> too bad i forgot my laptop charger to work. cant use o'scope without it to see how messed up the pwm is
[19:59] <gordonDrogon> you could use system() to call the gpio command if it's just that one pin you need to pwm...
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[20:29] <heller_> gordonDrogon: true, but i need two pwm-outputs
[20:29] <heller_> and i cant change them anymore
[20:29] <heller_> one just happened to be a pwm output
[20:34] <gordonDrogon> any 40-pin Pi has 2 hardware PWM outputs.
[20:34] <gordonDrogon> but if your pins are fixed, then that's going to be somewhat problematic to change.
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[20:36] <methuzla> is PWM0 still used for (non-hdmi) audio out?
[20:36] <gordonDrogon> yes - both pwm channels are still used for that.
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[20:37] <methuzla> both? for stereo?
[20:37] <gordonDrogon> yes.
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[20:38] <methuzla> so if you use PWM0/1 on the GPIO, you lose audio?
[20:38] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[20:38] <gordonDrogon> (non-hdmi audio that is)
[20:39] <methuzla> yeah.
[20:39] <gordonDrogon> that's always been the case. bit of a compromise there...
[20:39] <methuzla> i kind of got behind on where PWM stood with the pi
[20:39] <Valduare> hows it going
[20:39] <methuzla> haven't looked at it since the 40 pinners came out
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[20:40] <gordonDrogon> I'e only tried the jack audio once on a Pi - waaay back when I run up doom on it the same day I got it!
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[20:41] <methuzla> same here, quickly switched to usb based audio
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[20:42] <gordonDrogon> well - I'm not really into the media thing, so have never really had much audio out of a Pi..
[20:43] <gordonDrogon> although I did write an almost emulator for the BBC Micro sound system for my basic interpreter as well as wav file playing, etc.
[20:43] <methuzla> actually i've got one pi that uses the jack audio for espeak output
[20:44] <methuzla> it's already robot sounding, so the jack audio is good enough
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[20:46] <methuzla> do the jack audio pins show up on the gpio header anywhere?
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[20:48] <Valduare> any suggestions for a weekend project for my raspberry pi zero
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[20:48] <methuzla> cure cancer
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[20:49] <gordonDrogon> methuzla, not directly - just the digital pwm outputs - there is some passive components between the digital pwm outputs and the 3.5mm jack.
[20:49] <methuzla> right, think i've seen that on a schematic
[20:49] <gordonDrogon> I think the pimoroni audio phat replicates them for the zero.
[20:50] <methuzla> so if you use PWM0/1 on the GPIO, what do the audio jack pins see?
[20:50] <gordonDrogon> oh no, it doesn't. it's using the I2S interface.
[20:50] <gordonDrogon> the audio pins see noise - lots of it. bad noise.
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[21:07] <Valduare> methuzla: did that last weekend
[21:07] <Valduare> that was the first thing I did with the pi0 infact I booted it up first time and it cured cancer right away now I need something new to do :P
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[21:09] <methuzla> world domination
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[21:09] <methuzla> but only programming in erlang
[21:10] * gordonDrogon sticks to BASIC.
[21:11] <sir_galahad_ad> QBASIC 4 LYFE!
[21:11] <gordonDrogon> well, I prefer my own, however ...
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[21:15] <sir_galahad_ad> your own basic?
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[21:15] <gordonDrogon> RTB
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[21:16] <gordonDrogon> for reasons best left untold, I wrote a new BASIC interpreter a few years back... (in C)
[21:16] <gordonDrogon> I started it before the Pi came out - but it runs rather well on the Pi.
[21:16] <ozzzy> I've heard that people write windows applications in assembly too
[21:17] <gordonDrogon> poor them.
[21:17] <mxtm> where have you guys been able to find Pi0?
[21:17] <ozzzy> mxtm, I haven't looked
[21:17] <mxtm> My MicroCenter has been out of stock forever
[21:18] <gordonDrogon> read this on Pi zero availability: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=135081
[21:18] <gordonDrogon> if Adafruit has an "email me when in-stock" type of thing ,then I'd use that and hope for the best.. (assuming you're in the US)
[21:19] <mxtm> thanks
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[21:20] <gordonDrogon> sir_galahad_ad, apt-get install rtb
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[21:20] <sir_galahad_ad> i'm ok on the basic front really
[21:21] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: those will often not notify everyone
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> :)
[21:21] <sir_galahad_ad> the only thing i use basic for these days is my CoCo2 and even then i tend to prefer asm
[21:21] <methuzla> 10 HOME
[21:21] <t3chguy> They'll notify the n oldest emails on the list
[21:21] <methuzla> 20 SWEET
[21:21] <methuzla> 30 GOTO 10
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[21:25] <lilalinux> I have some strange network problem: I have a raspberry pi with eth0 and wlan0. both got their IP from dhcp. I am connected to both of these IP addresses via SSH, but when I disconnect the eth0 cable, both sshs are dead. These are my interfaces: http://pastebin.com/Wzm0CFDY
[21:25] <sir_galahad_ad> methuzla: yes so many GOTOs :(
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> methuzla, RTB doesn't need goto or line numbers..
[21:26] <sir_galahad_ad> neither did QBASIC for that matter
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> the above would be: cycle // SWEET // repeat (on 3 separate lines)
[21:27] <sir_galahad_ad> but my CoCo does...well maybe you could get away with GOSUB instead of goto ...
[21:28] <sir_galahad_ad> gordon wouldn't that just be SWEET SWEET SWEET SWEET SWEET SWEET ...(etc)...
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[21:28] <gordonDrogon> line numbers were an integral part of the editor on older basics. they served a good purpose when memory/resources were tight.
[21:28] <ozzzy> until ( bored ) { SWEET }
[21:29] <methuzla> lilalinux i think there's an auto detect that brings networking down when ethernet cable is removed
[21:29] <gordonDrogon> sir_galahad_ad, ah, yea, I missed the HOME. CLS is the RTB clear screen/home cursor thing.
[21:29] <sir_galahad_ad> morning ozzzy
[21:29] <ozzzy> hi
[21:29] <lilalinux> methuzla: any idea how to stop that?
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> bored = 0 // cycle // print "sweet" // repeat until bored
[21:30] <methuzla> lilalinux not really, and may be different with systemd(estroy)
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[21:30] <ozzzy> hehe
[21:32] <gordonDrogon> lilalinux, could it be dropping the default route? although both are on the same LAN, but ...
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[21:32] <lilalinux> i'll chat that
[21:34] <methuzla> ifplugd ?
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[21:35] <Valduare> my raspberry pi with otg hub plugged in and wifi and keyboard and mouse plugged into the otg hub when I unplug the keyboard then the wifi resets
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[21:48] <lilalinux> ok, starting without cable at all works fine
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[21:50] <ShorTie> Debian doesn't use both connections by default, you need like wicd to be able to use both at once
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[21:51] <dcm77> hello, does anyone how to get SPI enabled on a pi zero
[21:51] <gordonDrogon> run sudo raspi-config and enable device tree then enable spi.
[21:51] <dcm77> i get the following error when i try to do it with raspi-config….
[21:52] <dcm77> could not insert ‘spi_bcm2708’
[21:52] <gordonDrogon> you might need to reboot.
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[21:52] <gordonDrogon> make sure device tree is enabled.
[21:53] <dcm77> didnt enable device tree first… will try that
[21:53] <gordonDrogon> or do it the old way - disable device tree and all module loading, then reboot and type: gpio load spi
[21:54] <Valduare> what do you plan to do with the pi0 dmcc
[21:54] <Valduare> dmc77
[21:54] <dcm77> it is to get the touchscreen element of my lcd screen to work
[21:56] <dcm77> hmmm same error after enabling device tree… modprobe: ERROR: could not insert ‘spi_bcm2708’: no such device
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[21:58] <gordonDrogon> check device tree - run gpio -v ... if it's a newish version of wiringPi installed it'll tell you if dt is enabled or not.
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[22:00] <dcm77> i just updated today gordon. says gpio version 2.31. no comment about dt just says root or sudo required for GPIO access
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[22:01] <dcm77> i tried gpio load spi and didnt get an error the touch screen which works with SPI on the original pi still isnt working though!
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[22:05] <dcm77> is there a different version of the spi for the pi zero?
[22:06] <teclo-> spi ? Software in the Public Interest ?
[22:06] <methuzla> dcm77 what os are you using?
[22:06] <Valduare> hmm what is this http://www.ti.com.cn/cn/lit/ds/symlink/tibpal16l8-20m.pdf
[22:07] <Valduare> found it in a socket in my parts bin
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[22:07] <methuzla> it's a URL to a pdf
[22:07] <dcm77> Valduare: jessie i believe
[22:08] <methuzla> dcm77 when/how/where did you download and install image?
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[22:09] <dcm77> methuzia: a few weeks back from the raspberry pi.org link and did and update today when things werent working!
[22:09] <methuzla> Valduare "These programmable array logic devices feature..."
[22:09] <Valduare> what can I do with it? if anything
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[22:10] <Valduare> appears digikey still sells them says they can program them at digikey before shipping
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[22:12] <methuzla> Valduare http://lmgtfy.com/?q=programmable+array+logic
[22:13] <methuzla> dcm77 what did you get from uname -a?
[22:14] <Valduare> what channel are we in methuzla lol
[22:14] <Valduare> im asking if there is anything I can use it for with a pi :P
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[22:15] <dcm77> linux raspberrypi 4.1.13+ #826 PREEMPT
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[22:16] <methuzla> Valduare nothing if you can't program them
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[22:16] <dcm77> what is the significance of SPI_BCM2835 vs SPI_BCM2708?
[22:17] <methuzla> dcm77 pi1 vs pi2
[22:17] <gordonDrogon> dcm77, sounds liek dt isn't loaded on your zero.
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[22:17] <methuzla> dcm77 pastebin your /boot/config.txt file
[22:18] <dcm77> i just enabled dt and then ran your gpio -v and it confirms dt is enabled
[22:19] <methuzla> try adding dtparam=spi=on to /boot/config.txt and rebooting
[22:20] <dcm77> spi_bcm2835 appears when I type lsmod but i get the same error from raspi-config
[22:20] <dcm77> will try that methuzia
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[22:21] <gordonDrogon> raspi-config didn't used to load the modules there & there - it just updated the config files /boot/config.txt ...
[22:22] <gordonDrogon> but it may have changed... or be different in jessie (still running wheezy here)
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[22:27] <dcm77> so having changed the config.txt I still get only spi_bcm2835 when i type lsmod
[22:27] <gordonDrogon> anything in /dev/ - ls /dev/spi*
[22:27] <dcm77> looking at my old pi that works with the touchscreen via spi both bcm2835 and 2708 appear when i use lsmod
[22:28] <gordonDrogon> I actually think raspi-config might be broken here though. my suspicion is that they're relying purely on device tree and config eeproms now, but it breaks all sort of old stuff.
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[22:28] <gordonDrogon> makes it really hard to swap hardware on a Pi now - edit dt overlays, etc.
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[22:29] <dcm77> says /dev/spidev0.0
[22:29] <gordonDrogon> it might be there then.
[22:29] <methuzla> my comment about 2708 v 2835 may have been wrong
[22:29] <methuzla> i show only spi_bcm2835 as well
[22:30] <gordonDrogon> there's no equivalent of i2cdetect for spi though. you just have to hope it's all wired up ok.
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[22:32] <dcm77> i am focusing o this bcm2708 thing but it might be something completely different that means the touchscreen isnt working…..! I have check the wiringis the same as on my original pi. any other thoughts why a touchscreen relying on spi would work on the very first ever pi and not on the pi zero??
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[22:34] <ShorTie> lsmod show it ??
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[22:37] <dcm77> ShorTie: lsmod shows just spi_bcm2835 on the pi zero rather both which i see with lsmod on the original pi where all works well!
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[22:40] <ShorTie> interesting, have you checked the forums about it
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[22:41] <ShorTie> there search isn't any good, so use google with :site...
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[22:48] <Gacha> Hi, I'm trying to understand how this C programm really works to read DHT22 temp/hum sensor https://github.com/technion/lol_dht22/blob/master/dht22.c maybe someone has some experience with this? I tried to create something similar https://gist.github.com/gacha/1d6d9d0f4a6ea6826e9b but I have some problems and it doesn't read the bits correct.
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[22:49] <methuzla> Gacha what about it don't you understand?
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[22:50] <gordonDrogon> Gacha, intersting that someone would write their own using wiringPi when there is a perfectly good dht22 reader supplied with the wiringPi sources. Oh well.
[22:51] <Gacha> as I sad I'm trying to understand, I don't want to just copy/paste
[22:51] <shauno> eh, it's commented as "Simple test program to test the wiringPi functions". Sounds like they were just trying to stick with what they were familiar with (dht)
[22:51] <Gacha> for example line 73
[22:51] <Gacha> why is he checking 16
[22:52] <Mead> has anyone here played around with a GPIO dac module?
[22:52] <gordonDrogon> Mead, yes.
[22:52] <Mead> which one?
[22:52] <gordonDrogon> Gacha, I suggest you get the maxdetect data sheet - it has all the information in it.
[22:53] <heller_> anyone had problems with a button interrupt and a function?
[22:53] <Gacha> I already checked it
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[22:53] <gordonDrogon> Mead, 2 different ones. um. hang on, there's wiringPi support for them - I'll look them up.
[22:53] <gordonDrogon> heller_, getting 2 ints on the first push by any chance?
[22:53] <heller_> im having problem with my function getting called multiple times
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> Gacha, git.drogon.net/?p=wiringPi;a=blob;f=devLib/maxdetect.c is my code fwiw.
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> heller_, the rest will be switch bounce.
[22:54] <heller_> nope
[22:54] <heller_> i changed bouncetime to 1200 and still the same thing
[22:54] <heller_> just with less time
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[22:55] <heller_> http://codepaste.net/m8547m
[22:55] <Gacha> it says, that when the senser starts sending 40bit data it sends 50us low, then high - if its >68us it 1 otherwise it's 0
[22:55] <heller_> It starts up as fet = 0
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[22:55] <heller_> when i press the button once, it goes to 100, and the light goes up
[22:55] <heller_> but when i press it again, it goes to 75, then to 50 then to 25 and then to 0 and stops
[22:56] <gordonDrogon> Mead, pcf8591 and mcp4802
[22:56] <gordonDrogon> heller_, ah, python :)
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[22:57] <Gacha> gordonDrogon, ok I will check your code, but maybe u see some silly mistake in my https://gist.github.com/gacha/1d6d9d0f4a6ea6826e9b#file-dht22-c-L11 - I'm a coder, but not c or any low level language
[22:57] <heller_> gordonDrogon: ideas?
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[22:57] <gordonDrogon> heller_, I don't do python, sorrt.
[22:58] <methuzla> Gacha the initial handshake is differnt
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[22:59] <heller_> gordonDrogon: shame .)
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[23:00] <methuzla> Gacha first code lines 44-48 vs. your code lines 26-30
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[23:00] <gordonDrogon> Gacha, one thing - digitalRead() returns an int, not a uint8_t. casting things about like that and testing/passing 8-bit values in a 32-bit micro is generlaly not needed.
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[23:03] <Xark> Slows down the code too (needlessly).
[23:03] <methuzla> heller_ could be something elsewhere altering the global fet
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[23:04] <gordonDrogon> Gacha, after the wake-up, I wait for a low -> high transition. you're waiting for a high -> low
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[23:05] <heller_> methuzla: nope
[23:05] <methuzla> heller_ or could be a precision thing, your if block has no default
[23:05] <heller_> methuzla: hmm?
[23:06] <methuzla> heller_ what if all of the ifs are false? what happens to fet?
[23:06] <heller_> no idea :P
[23:07] <methuzla> why not just do: fet-=25, if fet<=0: fet=100
[23:07] <gordonDrogon> heller_, your logic might be better represented by: if fet <= 0 then fet = 100 else fet -= 25
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[23:10] <gordonDrogon> heller_, but even then things I'd be looking for is noise on the line. if you have wiringPi installed then try this:
[23:10] <heller_> i think the problem is that its stuck on the function
[23:10] <heller_> it checks one if its 100, it goes to 75
[23:10] <gordonDrogon> heller_, while true; do echo -n `gpio read $pin` ; done
[23:10] <heller_> but then it does not exit the function, and it goes to check if its 75, and goes to 50 etc
[23:11] <gordonDrogon> then push the button an look for noise.
[23:11] <heller_> i was supposed to
[23:11] <gordonDrogon> actually, you'll need gpio -g read $pin ... where $pin if the bcm_gpio number of your pin.
[23:11] <heller_> forgot my laptop charger to work
[23:12] <heller_> gordonDrogon: you mean run my python and in a nother window read with gpio ?
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[23:12] <gordonDrogon> heller_, no - stop the python - just the gpio loop.
[23:12] <gordonDrogon> I'm thinking noise on the line unless thee's a pull up/down on the button input. (maybe)
[23:13] <heller_> while true; do echo -n `gpio -g read 23`
[23:13] <heller_> like that?
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[23:13] <gordonDrogon> yes - need a ; done at the end.
[23:13] <gordonDrogon> the echo -n just puts it all on one line.
[23:13] <heller_> hmm
[23:13] <heller_> but what about the internal pullup
[23:13] <gordonDrogon> did you set it?
[23:14] <heller_> with the python script, yes
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> that assumes the button connects the gpio to 0v.
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> if that's the case the gpio loop ought to be solid 1's until you push, then solid zeros.
[23:14] <heller_> thats why the interrupt is GPIO.FALLING
[23:14] <heller_> by default its high
[23:14] <heller_> so basically the gpio read is not the same
[23:15] <gordonDrogon> that's not setting the resistor - that's an instruction to the interrupt thingy.
[23:15] <heller_> yes thats not
[23:15] <heller_> GPIO.setup(BUTTON_PIN, GPIO.IN, pull_up_down=GPIO.PUD_UP)
[23:15] <heller_> this is
[23:15] <gordonDrogon> good. but that wasn't in that code snippet, so how was I to know?
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[23:17] <heller_> mm i didnt paste the whole thing?
[23:17] <methuzla> no
[23:19] <Gacha> gordonDrogon, I added the HIGH and delay(10) but it did do anything, the binary output is the same. Else what I'm doing different are the 2 80us signals on #36 (do refresh). The binary output I added as a comment.
[23:19] <heller_> http://codepaste.net/1ohapz
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[23:19] <heller_> here
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[23:21] <gordonDrogon> er, intersting ( heller_ )
[23:21] <gordonDrogon> Gacha, can you confirm that the sensor does actually work?
[23:22] <Gacha> yes, I got readings from your code
[23:22] <gordonDrogon> ok. that's a good start.
[23:22] <heller_> gordonDrogon: what now?
[23:23] <gordonDrogon> heller_, I'm not sure - I can read the code (even being a python disbeliever and all that) and I think it looks like it should work, but.
[23:23] <heller_> but indeed
[23:23] <Gacha> maybe comparing the data can determine the shift of readings?
[23:23] <heller_> you know the feeling, you're driving you car and steering to the left and the car goes straight?
[23:23] <methuzla> try changing the logic as suggested
[23:23] <gordonDrogon> only on ice.
[23:23] <heller_> me either, but this is how it must feel
[23:24] <heller_> yeah, we're missing the ice here
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[23:24] <methuzla> also, seems like you can just do: fetPwm.ChangeDutyCycle(fet)
[23:24] <gordonDrogon> heller_, does it print painettu lots of time then even when the button is not pressed?
[23:25] <heller_> gordonDrogon: yes
[23:25] <heller_> it prints it out just like i would press the button
[23:25] <gordonDrogon> so basically in a loop 5 times a second in this case?
[23:26] <gordonDrogon> heller_, do you have the wiringPi sources?
[23:26] <Valduare> found hard drive on middle of road this morning
[23:27] <Valduare> all beat up heh
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[23:27] <heller_> gordonDrogon: dont know? :p
[23:27] <Valduare> taking it apart right now
[23:27] <gordonDrogon> heller_, ok - if you want, there is an interrupt test program as part of wiringPi.
[23:28] <gordonDrogon> heller_, type: cd ; git clone git://git.drogon.net/wiringPi ; cd wiringPi/examples ; make isr
[23:28] <methuzla> heller_ are you sure about your button?
[23:28] <heller_> methuzla: got few
[23:28] <methuzla> heller_ normally open?
[23:28] <heller_> yeah
[23:28] <heller_> but guys this has to be something with the function
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[23:28] <heller_> if i comment out all elif's it works ok
[23:29] <methuzla> not if it's printing when button isn't pressed
[23:29] <heller_> huh
[23:29] <heller_> hmm
[23:29] <heller_> but im commenting stuff out from the while loop
[23:29] <methuzla> print("painettu")
[23:30] <heller_> might the while loop be the reason?
[23:30] <methuzla> you're seeing that even when the button is not pressed?
[23:30] <heller_> yes, if there is an elif on the while loop
[23:31] <gordonDrogon> that while loop will print the value of fet 10 times a second.
[23:31] <gordonDrogon> button pushed or not.
[23:31] <heller_> http://codepaste.net/3fvgbj
[23:31] <heller_> if those lines are commented out, it does not print "painettu" if i dont press the button
[23:31] <methuzla> not value of get, but print in callback function print("painettu")
[23:31] <methuzla> *fet
[23:32] <methuzla> weird, and with those lines uncommented, it does print "painettu" ??
[23:32] <heller_> yes
[23:32] <heller_> but only when i press the button
[23:32] <heller_> oh sorry
[23:32] <heller_> other way around
[23:33] <methuzla> ?
[23:33] <heller_> if they are uncommented, if fet is 100 and i press the button i get "painettu" and "75" then "painettu" and "50" then "painettu" and "25" and then "painettu" and "0"
[23:34] <heller_> and i only press once
[23:34] <heller_> but if the elif's are commented out from the while loop, it does not print "painettu" if i dont press the button
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[23:34] <methuzla> what if you press button with commented lines?
[23:35] <heller_> works as it should (but the output only is 0 or 100)
[23:35] <methuzla> and no bounce issue?
[23:35] <heller_> this is freaking me out
[23:35] <heller_> nope
[23:35] <heller_> so it is not a bounce or hardware issue
[23:37] <gordonDrogon> well there you go - write this in C & you'f not be having these problems ... :-)
[23:37] <gordonDrogon> or even BASIC ;-)
[23:37] <heller_> blah
[23:37] <heller_> :P
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[23:39] <gordonDrogon> is there any way there could be a hardware short between the pwm output pin and button input pin?
[23:39] <gordonDrogon> you commend out the PWM commands and it works, but leave them in an it repeats...
[23:39] <gordonDrogon> try commenting out just the pwm commands - or replace them with prints...
[23:40] <gordonDrogon> in the while loop...
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[23:43] <heller_> hmmi could try
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[23:45] <Polymorphism> these stepper driver boards arrived
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[23:45] <Polymorphism> they look VERY nice
[23:45] <Polymorphism> was looking over the features and datasheet
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[23:46] <heller_> gordonDrogon: good point
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[23:46] <heller_> it sure is working without the ChangeDutyCycly
[23:47] <heller_> but im not thinking of any shorts
[23:47] <gordonDrogon> so there could be some sort of cross talk/noise on the pwm output, or some other side-effect of the python gpio code?
[23:47] <gordonDrogon> bcm_23 and 17 are on opposite sides of the gpio connector too.
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[23:48] <heller_> but why is it working still?
[23:48] <heller_> i mean 100 and 0 is still the same command
[23:48] <gordonDrogon> no idea, but I'm off to bed, so I'll leave you to work out the rest.
[23:48] <heller_> im going to head to bed too soon
[23:48] <heller_> thanks anyway
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[23:50] <heller_> this sure is weird
[23:50] <heller_> it even one line, lets sey fetPwm.ChangeDutyCycle(50) is uncommented, it goes until the end
[23:52] <methuzla> heller_ try these changes: http://codepaste.net/5ukb7q
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[23:56] <heller_> sure
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[23:56] <heller_> same issue
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[23:57] <methuzla> you press button, you get "painettu" and "75" then "painettu" and "50" then "painettu" and "25" and then "painettu" and "0"
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[23:57] <methuzla> with single press?
[23:58] <heller_> http://codepaste.net/9111i5
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[23:58] <methuzla> that looks like its working
[23:58] <heller_> starts at 0 -> press once to get 100 -> press again to get 75 -> you see the rest
[23:58] <heller_> not
[23:58] <heller_> i press once when fet == 100
[23:58] <heller_> and it goes all the way to 0
[23:59] <methuzla> that output is from one press?
[23:59] <heller_> http://codepaste.net/q8mivy i press the button and hit enter. so empty line is a button press
[23:59] <heller_> so it works from 0 to 100

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