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IRC Log for 2016-02-09

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[0:03] <[Saint]> ali1234: shauno: it is legit, check the resolver if you have to - they've been doing this for years now.
[0:03] <[Saint]> It is just a public facing excuse and incentive to get people to check a security self-audit page that has existed for years and years and years.
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[0:04] <[Saint]> None of this is new.
[0:04] <shauno> oh I believe it. I'm just being snarky because I don't trust google much further than I can throw them
[0:04] <ali1234> [Saint]: yeah i agree it's legit. it just *looks* shady. "click here for free 2GB" - it's like the old "microsoft will pay you $1 for forwarding this email"
[0:04] <[Saint]> It's just an incentive to get people to check their security settings.
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[0:04] <[Saint]> Which people should be doing at least anually anyway.
[0:05] <[Saint]> This is just a nice reason to want to do so. Safer networks and devices works out in everyone's favor.
[0:05] <ali1234> i turned on the monthly email reminders
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[0:05] <[Saint]> If you don't already use 2FA - Do so, and if not - Why are you an idiot?
[0:06] <[Saint]> :p </s>
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[0:06] <[Saint]> I'm joking, but, I'm also being quite sincere.
[0:07] <[Saint]> People I talk to seem to think enabling 2FA authentication will "be a hassle" and "make it harder to log in", but that is pretty much never true and represents a deep misunderstanding of how it functions.
[0:07] <ali1234> it does make it harder to log in, additionally my phone is significantly less secure than my computer
[0:07] <[Saint]> Everyone, every-every-every-every-everyone...should be using 2FA authentication.
[0:07] <shauno> hm, sohuldn't 'find' return non-zero if it doesn't find a match?
[0:08] <waveform> actually I find 2FA not much more inconvenient since discovering I could run google authenticator on a pebble watch
[0:08] <ali1234> but doesn't a pebble need to be connected to a smartphone
[0:08] <waveform> not for this, no - runs on the pebble itself; so the 2FA is on a device I rarely take off, and which is rather harder to nick than my phone
[0:08] <[Saint]> ali1234: you can opt for the 2FA codes to be sent via SMS, and they have an active time of less than 60s, so it's not like it makes it obscenely difficult to use or exposes useful security information to a compromised device.
[0:08] <ali1234> that's pretty neat. see i'd use that...
[0:09] <waveform> (given it's strapped around my wrist)
[0:09] <waveform> it's the *one* killer app I've found for a smart-watch ... not much else is *that* useful on it to be honest
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[0:09] <waveform> (it's occasionally useful to send a template "okay" reply or something to a text, and multiple timers are handy when cooking ... but the 2FA on the watch ... that's *really* useful)
[0:10] <[Saint]> ali1234: but I guess if your phone isn;t securely locked, I would also need to refer to the (partially sarcastic) "Why are you an idiot?" question again.
[0:10] <ali1234> i don't have a screen or simlock on my phone
[0:10] <[Saint]> ...why?
[0:10] <[Saint]> That's nuts.
[0:11] <ali1234> it's pay and go and i never have more than £10 credit
[0:11] * holodoc (~holodoc@unaffiliated/holodoc) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[0:11] <[Saint]> And?
[0:11] <ali1234> and so if it's stolen i lose the credit anyway
[0:11] <[Saint]> The credit is the least interesting thing on a stolen device.
[0:12] <[Saint]> You're not thinking about the safety of the data on it, or any other connected accoutns.
[0:12] <ali1234> there is no data on it
[0:12] <[Saint]> No one cares about your cellular credit.
[0:12] <[Saint]> I assure you there is.
[0:12] <ali1234> it's a phone
[0:12] <ali1234> the only data on it is my phone book
[0:12] <[Saint]> Yes. And?
[0:12] <ali1234> and nobody cares about my phone book
[0:12] <[Saint]> That's largely untrue.
[0:12] <ali1234> stolen mobiles go to the unlock expert, followed by the nearest pawn shop
[0:12] <exonormal> telemarketers do
[0:12] <shauno> basically, anyone who nicks is nokia is probably going to give it back out of pity
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[0:14] <[Saint]> There's quite a wealth of information that can be ascertained by a contacts database alone.
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[0:14] <ali1234> yes but google don't buy that kind of information from random street punks
[0:14] <[Saint]> And one could also pull off data relating to your fused location provider and then find your travels and your home and work addresses trivially.
[0:15] <ali1234> yes but why?
[0:15] <[Saint]> I guess what I'm saying is that being ignorant about device security because "there's nothing on there" is always a massive fallacy.
[0:15] <Chillum> the real danger is they will use your phone to do something bad, and the cops come looking for the owner
[0:15] <[Saint]> Always.
[0:15] <[Saint]> "I've got nothing to hide"/"there's no important data on there" is always a fallacy.
[0:15] <[Saint]> And securing the device to a reasonable extent is far from difficult.
[0:16] <ali1234> there is important data on it, it just isn't private
[0:16] <Chillum> you phone does a fine job of giving up information to people when it is still in your pocket
[0:16] <ali1234> i am not saying i have nothing to hide. i am saying i don't put that stuff in my phone
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[0:16] <[Saint]> There's also the issue of unsecured access being a doorway into compromising secured devices.
[0:17] <ali1234> i treat my phone the same way i would treat a random pop-up infected windows machine
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[0:17] <[Saint]> Unless you keep your phone in a farady cage and only ever plug it in to a single airgapped machine I think not keeping it securely locked is quite frankly insane.
[0:17] <[Saint]> But, hey, you won't be ruining /my/ netowrk...
[0:19] <[Saint]> With most devices I could root with a persistent RAMDisk injection method and leave a door open in ~2 minutes.
[0:20] <ali1234> i assume that has already happened
[0:20] <[Saint]> It can even survive a factory reset trivially.
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[0:20] <ali1234> actually, i assume that the airside firmware already contains that functionality
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[0:21] <[Saint]> So - wait - your device never touches any secured personal networks, lives in a faraday cage when not in use, only ever gets plugged to an airgapped machine, etc. etc. etc ...?
[0:21] <[Saint]> I suspect that's really not true.
[0:21] <ali1234> my phone? yes
[0:21] <[Saint]> Mhm. K.
[0:21] <ali1234> i turn it off when i'm at home
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[0:22] <[Saint]> Unless that means "I remove the battery", that's of very little consequence.
[0:22] <ali1234> i don't believe in the idea of secured networks. each machine on the network should have a firewall
[0:22] <ali1234> i consider any network with machine outside of my control to be compromised too
[0:23] <ali1234> i have a special laptop that i use when i need to connect to someone else's wifi
[0:23] <ali1234> i format it between jobs
[0:24] <[Saint]> It's pretty easy to hijack the poweroff routine such that it never actually happens and just fakes it. That's the reason I referred to removing the battery entirely.
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[0:25] <[Saint]> I guess it just seems insane to me, assuming that the information you provide is true and correct, the lengths that you do go to - but you won't take the time to do very simple things such as 2FA authorization or a strong passphrase for locking/unlocking the device.
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[0:28] <shauno> ali1234: did you look into the ubuntu phone? it may be more secure, as even the stuff that's meant to work doesn't ..
[0:28] <ali1234> lol
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[0:29] <Valduare> hmm
[0:29] <shauno> (sorry, I've been stuck with it for a week. I'm cranky)
[0:29] <Valduare> just came back to my pi and there is a cursor but no pannels and I cant switch tty consoles
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[0:30] <[Saint]> My favorite one was when blackphone shipped with ro.device.* device props in a world writable mode.
[0:30] <[Saint]> (ro is the key there - it's supposed to be 'read only')
[0:30] <[Saint]> That was hilarious, it got rooted in a matter of hours after release with no disassembly and no specific tools.
[0:30] <shauno> this thing's impressively secure. it doesn't connect to phone networks, most wifi networks ..
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[0:31] <shauno> oddly though, sms stil works. so there's one vector. no phonecalls, no 3g, but sms works.
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[0:37] <deepdivered> so did i see right the raspberry pie may be getting opengl?
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[0:58] <Valduare> so the 4.5 kernel will that do much for the pi zero
[0:59] <Valduare> think I keep reading its about pi2
[1:00] <exonormal> put the RISC OS on the zero...
[1:01] <Valduare> why
[1:03] <exonormal> supin to do
[1:03] <exonormal> it's really a neat different OS... no one knows until they try it and presto, it's a neat OS...
[1:04] <Valduare> i’ve seen youtube vids
[1:04] <Valduare> it does not look useable at all
[1:05] <exonormal> aww come on.... sheesh
[1:05] <waveform> shameless plug: gpiozero 1.1 released (https://gpiozero.readthedocs.org/) - and it's now time for me to get some shut-eye!
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[1:05] <exonormal> ok night waveform
[1:07] <^74NK> what about android
[1:07] <^74NK> is it available for rpi2
[1:07] <^74NK> ?
[1:07] <exonormal> yes I think that is in github site
[1:07] <^74NK> i have a NanoPi 2 :D running android image
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[1:08] <exonormal> cool
[1:08] <^74NK> it was very fun to make a usb hub for it
[1:08] <exonormal> congrats
[1:08] <^74NK> have to cut power and grnd that goes to board, and add external power
[1:08] <^74NK> exonormal i didn't try to make you feel bad
[1:10] <exonormal> no, you didn't... I don't do much with my pi's... I just hook Uno's and Quickstarts to the pi's so I don't brick the pi's....
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[1:10] <^74NK> whats a quickstart
[1:11] <^74NK> uno as in ardUiNO?! lol
[1:11] <exonormal> similar to Uno
[1:11] <exonormal> yes
[1:11] <exonormal> I'll get a link for you
[1:12] <^74NK> i just do software poweroff and turn off my power extender cord which powers pi and usb hub
[1:12] <^74NK> then remove sd card and backup every couple of days
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[1:16] <exonormal> https://www.parallax.com/product/40000
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[1:21] <Valduare> someone told me I could find some nice mosfets on old motehrboards
[1:21] <Valduare> got some of these now http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/149/FDD8780-46836.pdf
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[1:23] <exonormal> sweet... hope they still good
[1:24] <^74NK> i cant view pdf from my android
[1:25] <^74NK> i need to download pdf viewer lol
[1:25] <^74NK> so what does it do, exactly? powers on multiple pis?
[1:27] <exonormal> it's a electronic component similar to a transistor but better...
[1:27] <ali1234> the T stands for transistor...
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[1:27] <Valduare> gah
[1:27] <Valduare> broke 2
[1:27] <Valduare> very fragile little things
[1:27] <exonormal> he's using it as a switch so he can power LEDs with them
[1:27] <exonormal> yes they are
[1:28] <exonormal> are they surface soldered?
[1:28] <Valduare> no
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[1:28] <Valduare> but they are the smaller package vertical
[1:28] <Valduare> short package
[1:28] <exonormal> ok cool... be gentle with them
[1:29] <exonormal> and use heat sink clips on them
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[1:31] <^74NK> also, my device is at about 45C when idling + 1/2 apps running but 70C when streaming video
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[1:31] <^74NK> what fan setups do you have?
[1:32] <^74NK> i added a selfmade heatsink + thermal paste
[1:32] <^74NK> and it worked perfectly
[1:32] <^74NK> the heatsink does recieve the heat
[1:32] <exonormal> sweet
[1:32] <^74NK> i just dont know what to do with the fan
[1:32] <^74NK> as im running android
[1:32] <exonormal> I meant the little clip on ones for soldering..
[1:32] <^74NK> and the appstore doesnt really have gpio control apks
[1:33] <^74NK> i guess i'll power through usb
[1:33] <^74NK> any recomended size
[1:33] <exonormal> for pi?
[1:34] <^74NK> nanopi-2
[1:34] <^74NK> same gpio
[1:34] <^74NK> smaller board size
[1:35] <^74NK> has 1.4Ghz 4core Cortex-A9
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[1:35] <exonormal> dog
[1:35] <exonormal> me jealous
[1:35] <^74NK> lol why?
[1:35] <exonormal> cuz I don't have one, lol
[1:35] <^74NK> its only 30$
[1:36] <^74NK> 29$ if you want to trade wifi/bt for ethernet port
[1:36] <exonormal> wow...
[1:36] <exonormal> I am waiting for my pi zero...
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[1:37] <exonormal> I plan to put it into a Apple G3 laptop... the pi zero is so thin it fit right in....
[1:37] <^74NK> ye pi zero got me really excited
[1:37] <exonormal> cool
[1:37] <Valduare> ok exonormal I got 3 of these http://html.alldatasheet.com/html-pdf/135642/FAIRCHILD/FDU8796/486/1/FDU8796.html
[1:37] <^74NK> still waiting to order
[1:37] <^74NK> it costs only 4 20
[1:37] <^74NK> british quid'
[1:38] <exonormal> I see it's $5 for me
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[1:41] <^74NK> depends where you order
[1:41] <^74NK> but 420 in brittan is the same as five hunnit in the uS
[1:41] <^74NK> :)
[1:43] <exonormal> yes... I tried to get the MagPi issue 40 but they were limited and went like a blink of eye... sheesh
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[1:45] <^74NK> if i would buy pi zeros
[1:45] <^74NK> i would buy 10 of them
[1:45] <^74NK> add them all together
[1:46] <^74NK> and let them generate vanity bitcoin adresses
[1:46] <^74NK> then have one on the side, looking up results looking for adresses with BTC on them
[1:46] <^74NK> if there is then he keeps private key
[1:46] <^74NK> that will be my stable income
[1:46] <^74NK> :)
[1:47] <exonormal> oh, did you see that 16 pi zero back plane the chinese made? it was awesome
[1:47] <^74NK> youtube?
[1:47] <exonormal> I think it's on hackaday site
[1:48] <^74NK> cluster for only 80%
[1:48] <^74NK> 80$
[1:48] <^74NK> found it
[1:48] <^74NK> oh that MOBO LOOKS SOO SEXY
[1:48] <^74NK> !
[1:48] <exonormal> http://www.geek.com/chips/raspberry-pi-zero-cluster-in-development-1645823/
[1:49] <exonormal> yup sure does... yummy...
[1:49] <^74NK> i found the one on hackaday
[1:49] <^74NK> looks sick
[1:49] <exonormal> sweet
[1:49] <^74NK> definitely gonna generate bitcoin wallets on that
[1:49] <exonormal> sick?
[1:49] <exonormal> lol
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[1:50] <^74NK> :D dont mind me
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[1:54] <DWKnight> exonormal: the price can go up a bit from their original target if they integrate the switch into the board
[1:54] <DWKnight> it wouldn't surprise me if there were people who designed similar for the compute modules
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[2:00] <Valduare> tehre we go
[2:00] <Valduare> got new legs soldered to all 3 mosfets heh
[2:01] <Valduare> so they are long enough to stick in the breadboard
[2:01] <Valduare> I like using the header pins off old motherboards
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[2:01] <Valduare> or cut legs off leds for when I desolder a component to use in breadboards
[2:02] <DWKnight> "What we do not use up, we use again"
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[2:08] <ozzzy> I had to solder a new leg to an 8087 once.... was a bugger
[2:09] <exonormal> lol
[2:09] <Valduare> tonight is the night I should be able to drive these rgb leds finally
[2:10] <Valduare> I should have enough parts boards full of resisters to make it happen heh
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[2:13] <ceberous> is sending an SSL POST Request at all possible? on a pi?
[2:14] <exonormal> Valduare: just be careful not to brick the pi!!!!
[2:14] <Valduare> eh its only 5 bucks :P
[2:15] <Valduare> just swing on down to the local convenience store and pick up another pi zero right? :P
[2:15] <exonormal> eye no.... just don't fry it...
[2:15] <Valduare> hehe
[2:15] <DWKnight> don't set the room on fire by blowing up the pi
[2:16] <DWKnight> the cleanup isn't worth the hassle
[2:16] <Valduare> <=-===== makes gun noise followed by a boom
[2:16] <Valduare> really wish I had a set of jumper wires
[2:16] <exonormal> KABOOM....
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[2:16] <exonormal> lol
[2:16] <Valduare> im using staples on the breadboard lol
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[2:19] <exonormal> sheesh, really???? darn....
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[2:20] <Valduare> basically learning on ewaste lol
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[2:22] <exonormal> don't blame ya on that... reuse what ya can
[2:23] <DWKnight> if it's not a destroyed part, it's a useful part
[2:23] <exonormal> right
[2:24] <exonormal> I reuse a lot of electronics in the lab I work in...
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[2:33] <DWKnight> I'm going to end up with so many pis and pi-alikes eventually
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[2:34] <Valduare> not a bad thing
[2:34] <DSdavidDS> Hi guys. Just curious how I run a certain linux command inside of a python program
[2:34] <DSdavidDS> I am not sure what this is called or what to google
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[2:35] <exonormal> it can be done, but I do not know how tho...
[2:35] <DWKnight> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/89228/calling-an-external-command-in-python
[2:35] <exonormal> saint may know
[2:35] <exonormal> cool
[2:36] <DSdavidDS> thanks DWKnight
[2:38] <[Saint]> Hmm?
[2:38] <[Saint]> What might I know?
[2:38] <DSdavidDS> I was asking how to run linux commands from inside python programs
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[2:38] <DSdavidDS> or not just python, I want to do it from a webserver (php)
[2:39] <[Saint]> https://docs.python.org/2/library/subprocess.html
[2:39] <DSdavidDS> I am looking into the subprocess lib https://docs.python.org/2/library/subprocess.html
[2:39] <DSdavidDS> yep
[2:39] <[Saint]> :)
[2:39] <DSdavidDS> how about php?
[2:40] <[Saint]> I dunno. Not a PHP man myself. I haven't had to deal with it much (thankfully).
[2:40] <DWKnight> php can do it too
[2:40] <[Saint]> I don't condier PHP to be intuitive to keeping one's sanity.
[2:40] <[Saint]> Though I know others don't mind it.
[2:40] <[Saint]> *consider
[2:41] <Anitox> if you know C, then PHP is easy af
[2:41] <DWKnight> "Any programming language can be learned with sufficient motivation coupled with access to google"
[2:41] <Anitox> the motivation is required more than the google
[2:42] <DWKnight> yup
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[2:43] <[Saint]> The only times I tend to touch PHP "willingly" is when it's required to do so at work and I'm the sucker that $PROJECT gets pawned off on.
[2:43] <Anitox> node.js can do it also
[2:43] <Anitox> just pick a language, then you can do it
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[2:44] <Anitox> i do PHP all day every day for work
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[2:46] <[Saint]> Poor bastard.
[2:46] <[Saint]> ;)
[2:47] <Anitox> anyone have some good documentation for setting up a connection between two wifi interfaces? need to share wlan0 internet to wlan1 which is an AP
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[2:47] <[Saint]> I do "the guy who touched this before me had absolutely no clue what he's doing C/C++" all day.
[2:47] <Anitox> oh god
[2:47] <Anitox> masochist?
[2:48] <[Saint]> Mainly spent around setting right people having absolutely no idea about the concept of data integrity and sanitation.
[2:48] <[Saint]> Or the setting right thereof, I should say.
[2:48] <DWKnight> Anitox: probably just set up nat with wlan1 as the lan interface and wlan0 as the wan interface
[2:49] <DWKnight> bridge the onboard nic with wlan1 if it helps you keep them sorted
[2:49] <Anitox> yeah, that's exactly what i need
[2:49] <[Saint]> I noticed some pretty deep seated problems in some in-house tools and got it dumped in my lap for the privilege.
[2:49] <Anitox> but i need like a documenation about that
[2:49] <Anitox> got a url or something?
[2:49] <Anitox> cannot bridge a wlan in managed mode
[2:49] <Anitox> need like iptables shit or something
[2:49] <DWKnight> http://jacobsalmela.com/raspberry-pi-and-routing-turning-a-pi-into-a-router/
[2:50] <Anitox> :(
[2:50] <Anitox> that's bridging eth0 to wlan0
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[2:50] <[Saint]> a router where network and USB I/O share a singular USB2 bus.
[2:50] <[Saint]> ...neat.
[2:50] <[Saint]> :-S
[2:50] <DWKnight> yeah
[2:50] <DWKnight> you're going to have some performance issue
[2:51] <Anitox> :O
[2:51] <[Saint]> that's an understatement.
[2:51] <exonormal> lol
[2:51] <DWKnight> 480mbit half duplex
[2:51] <DWKnight> iirc
[2:51] <exonormal> I see
[2:54] <[Saint]> One of the things that I used to do, and still do do, is network architecture and network systems hardening, and I tend to think that people should just spend the money and get a decent pro-sumer/industry grade ADSL/VDSL/Cable/Fiber mixed-mode modem gigE modem and a nice 8/12/24 port gigE switch.
[2:54] <[Saint]> But I understand people not having ~$1K to throw around on network hardware.
[2:54] <DWKnight> Asus N56U and a cisco SG200-26
[2:55] <DWKnight> for example
[2:55] <[Saint]> One doesn't necessarily need a dedicated switch in their home, but you absolutely do need a prosumer grade or industry grade modem/router.
[2:56] <DWKnight> we needed to go with something along the lines of the n56u or the ubitiqui (sp) edgerouter
[2:56] <exonormal> can buy those at Walmart
[2:56] <DWKnight> because of how the tv works with our provider
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[2:56] <DWKnight> all the networking hardware I've seen at walmart has been regular consumer
[2:56] <DWKnight> not prosumer
[2:57] <[Saint]> TP-LINK make some pretty affordable prosumer gear. I tend to go with Ubiqiti Networks gear myself in the prosumer range, especially for multiple deployments as they have some really nice software for beamforming and trafic shaping among multiple wireless beacons.
[2:57] <[Saint]> Their gear is expensive, but well worth it.
[2:58] <[Saint]> I finally have most of my network on 10GbE capable switchgear now.
[2:58] <DWKnight> I'm planning on the cisco small business SG200-26 for my house, partly to hook up EVERYTHING off of one switch and partly to play around with link aggregation
[2:58] <[Saint]> After some fairly expensive decisions I went with 10GbE switchgear in the last upgrade.
[2:59] <[Saint]> Though that's just /my/ personal network at home.
[2:59] <exonormal> sweet
[2:59] <[Saint]> The small "ISP" that I run is still on GigE switchgear.
[3:00] <exonormal> nice...
[3:00] <[Saint]> Having a pipe that fat for local throughput is really a godsend for file transfers and streaming and overall home networking interoperability.
[3:00] <[Saint]> Though I freely admit I'm not really using it to its full potential.
[3:00] <[Saint]> I count it more as future proofing.
[3:01] <exonormal> I agree to that... good going
[3:01] <[Saint]> Same reason why I filled two 12 bay raid cages with 4TB platters.
[3:01] <exonormal> sweet
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[3:02] <[Saint]> I don't need that storage, or even close to it, /now/...but I don't want to have to upgrade in the near future and I feel that was a decent path towards that.
[3:02] <Anitox> aint fuckin around
[3:02] <[Saint]> I got about 50% of the disks for free from work, so that was a bonus. I probably wouldn;t have done RAID6 and RAID60 arrays otherwise.
[3:02] <exonormal> yup... always be ahead instead of sorry
[3:03] <DWKnight> I'm running low of space on my raid array
[3:03] <exonormal> wow, that's nice
[3:03] <DWKnight> need to get a controller card and some more hard drives for it
[3:04] <[Saint]> With modern machines there's really not a heck of a lot of reason to prefer hardware RAID anymore I don't think.
[3:04] <DWKnight> currently a 4x 3tb raid5
[3:04] <[Saint]> Unless you're aiming for some really exotic encrypted HW backed RAID profile.
[3:04] <DWKnight> go pure hardware or pure software right now
[3:04] <DWKnight> the hybrids are still not that great last I checked
[3:05] <exonormal> I can't stand hybrids..
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[3:05] <DWKnight> yeah, those protoss/zerg combo things are annoying
[3:05] <DWKnight> :P
[3:05] <exonormal> Istick with WD blacks
[3:06] <plugwash> [Saint], hmm do you find software raid6 performs well?
[3:06] <[Saint]> I think the only real reason I use HW RAID is that there's drop-in "HP Server Support Pack"s for Canonical *Buntu Server deployments and all my (fairly exotic) server hardware "Just Works" out-of-the-box with Ubuntu Server.
[3:06] <[Saint]> plugwash: I can't say I've actually done RAID6 in pure software.
[3:06] <plugwash> I know raid 6 is more math intensive than lower raid levels but I don't know how that pans out in practice nowadays.
[3:07] <[Saint]> I wouldn;t think any modern hardware combination would have a serious issue with overhead there.
[3:07] <[Saint]> But I could well be mistaken.
[3:07] <DWKnight> would you call core2 celerons "modern"?
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[3:08] <exonormal> nah, get some Xeon ones
[3:08] <[Saint]> But, yeah, if I had to do a server install on my hardware on any other non-debian-esque distro I would probably sooner want to punch myself in the testicles.
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[3:09] <[Saint]> The HW RAID cards and dual-gigE network cards I have in my development and storage servers are fairly exotic OEM HP stuff, and they only make a drop-in driver package for the *Buntu because Canonical is an "HP Certified Hardware Partner".
[3:10] <DWKnight> my current main server is a celeron e3200 running gentoo
[3:11] <[Saint]> dual-gigE PCI5**X netowrk cards aren't really what one would consider to be "everyday hardware" and I have yet to find a single distro that isn't *Buntu Server where they are detected properly and work out of the box.
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[3:11] <DWKnight> oh god, I just realized, I probably could upgrade that e3200 to the q6600
[3:11] <DWKnight> I HOPE the processor didn't die
[3:11] <DWKnight> bah
[3:11] <DWKnight> effort
[3:12] <[Saint]> And for some reason on the other distros when I /can/ get them recognized, they run at half speed, and I can only detect 2 of the 4 cards.
[3:12] <[Saint]> With Ubuntu Server all 8 gigE eth ports work in all 4 of the network cards, right out of the box, as long as you opt to install the HP drop-in driver pack for HP server hardware.
[3:14] <[Saint]> I use Arch on my thinclients and my desktops, and Arch is my preferred distribution...but, I don't hate myselfg that much to go through what is literally hours of compiliation and configuring to get my HW RAID and network cards only partially working.
[3:14] <DWKnight> distcc helps me so much now
[3:14] <[Saint]> (on a side note, the ODROID XU4 makes a _great_ thinclient)
[3:15] <[Saint]> I have one bolted to the back of almost every monitor in the house on VESA mounts right now.
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[3:16] <[Saint]> Cheap, fast, solid. An ODROID Xu4 and the 16GB eMMC module (optional, but recommended, very highly) ends up way cheaper than what I would normally spent on a full thinclient.
[3:16] <[Saint]> And a lot smaller with a lot less consumption.
[3:16] <[Saint]> It's like a raspi, except if the raspi was a fast and capable device...
[3:17] <exonormal> what you think of the banana pi?
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[3:17] <ozzzy> raspi doesn't have to be fast and capable... it's a learning tool
[3:17] <exonormal> also there is a new one that came out, don't remember name of it....
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[3:18] * BurtyB has an XU4 on order, thought i best get one quick before the C2 is out incase they stop making them
[3:18] <exonormal> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-15-64-bit-single-board-super-comput
[3:20] <exonormal> what you guys think of this one??? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[3:21] <DWKnight> exonormal: banana pis are not significantly higher end than the raspberry. and you might be thinking of solid-run's hummingboard
[3:22] <DWKnight> the bpi-m3 is an 8-core
[3:23] <Valduare> hah ok all this time i’ve been fabricating jumper wires
[3:23] <exonormal> yeh, at $100
[3:23] <Valduare> I really should get a set of those haha
[3:23] <Valduare> think I am all wired up now
[3:23] <Valduare> just about
[3:23] <[Saint]> http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/02/03/hardkernel-odroid-c2-64-bit-arm-development-board-to-sell-for-40-next-month/
[3:23] <Valduare> gotta find my 12v power supply now
[3:23] <[Saint]> ODROID C2, check it out.
[3:23] <exonormal> well don't fry that zero, pls
[3:23] <[Saint]> Got your Pine64 beat hands down.
[3:24] <[Saint]> The ODROID C2 will retail at USD $40
[3:24] <[Saint]> (and it is bad-ass)
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[3:24] <exonormal> those are made in Korea
[3:24] <[Saint]> So?
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[3:25] <[Saint]> Who gives a rats bum where it's made.
[3:25] <exonormal> are they made by Kia?
[3:25] <DWKnight> the solid-run hummingboards were some of the pi-alikes I had considered at one point
[3:25] <[Saint]> If you can wait, ...get the Hardkernel ODROID C2.
[3:26] <[Saint]> If you can't, take a look at the Hardkernel ODROID Xu4
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[3:26] <Valduare> what beats the pine64?
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[3:26] <[Saint]> http://odroid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=en:odroid-c2
[3:26] <DWKnight> the only thing I'm decided on short-term is a pi2 for media center and a pi2 for gpio practice
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[3:27] <[Saint]> Valduare: that does
[3:27] <DWKnight> possibly a pi2 for raspbx
[3:28] <[Saint]> Well, I'm going to be getting at least a half dozen of the ODROID C2 board as soon as orders open for it.
[3:28] <[Saint]> Then I'll see from there if I want more or not. But I'm pretty happy with the XU4 filling that gap presently.
[3:29] <[Saint]> The way I see it the C2 is too cheap, and too fast, to not get.
[3:29] <Valduare> the pin64 has it beat on price
[3:29] <[Saint]> And no more.
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[3:31] <[Saint]> If I was in the market for a cheap 64 bit dev board, I doubt I would even consider saving the marginal amount of price difference between the Pine64 and the ODROID C2.
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[3:32] <[Saint]> UHS-I sd support, and eMMC expansion, are pretty huge bonuses.
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[3:32] <Berg> Hi
[3:32] <exonormal> ok I'll see if I can find one on Amazon.com
[3:32] <[Saint]> Not available yet.
[3:32] <[Saint]> Soon (TM).
[3:32] <Berg> ODB2 software for pi?
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[3:32] <Berg> like maybe python?
[3:33] <Berg> any good stuff?
[3:33] <[Saint]> The ODROID C2 will be available starting 1st March, according to a few sources.
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[3:33] <[Saint]> Start/Mid/End, it'll be March, just not confident on when exactly.
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[3:34] <exonormal> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dcomputers&field-keywords=odroid+c2
[3:34] <Berg> oooo
[3:34] <[Saint]> If you can wait that little bit longer for a neat 64 bit dev board, I'd say its worth your while.
[3:34] <Valduare> hmm this little 12v wallwart is putting out 18.6v…..
[3:34] <ozzzy> put a load on it
[3:34] <exonormal> don't use that
[3:34] <Hitechcg> ^
[3:34] <[Saint]> exonormal: that's pretty clearly not a C2.
[3:34] <exonormal> oh?
[3:34] <Hitechcg> also, wallwarts suck
[3:35] <[Saint]> It says it pretty clearly.
[3:35] <exonormal> yes I agree
[3:35] <[Saint]> C1+
[3:35] <exonormal> ok ty
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[3:36] <exonormal> http://www.amazon.com/ODROID-ODROID-XU4/dp/B0163GEA64/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1454985215&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=odroid+c2
[3:36] <[Saint]> Hardkernel says they'll ship in March. An outside source (who has been reliable with leaks in the past and is friendly with Ameridroid) says March 1st.
[3:36] <exonormal> ok
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[3:36] <Valduare> k going to use my old netbook power adapter its 12v heh
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[3:37] <exonormal> measure it
[3:37] <[Saint]> And, yeah, that's the XU4 - which is considerably more powerful and considerably more expensive, 32 bit ARMv7 arch, but well worth the price.
[3:38] <exonormal> sweet
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[3:38] <exonormal> maybe I'll get one... do they have case for it?
[3:38] <[Saint]> it's an A15/A7 octacore big.LITTLE arrangement in the XU4.
[3:38] <[Saint]> They're pretty nuts.
[3:39] <[Saint]> But, more expensive, and 32bit only - so if you want it for 64 bit dev...it's not gonna cut it.
[3:39] <exonormal> that I understand
[3:39] <exonormal> 32 bit don't bother me
[3:40] <[Saint]> Another bonus with the ODROID boards is that there's almost always an Android image available from them direct from ahrdkernel, as well as device trees and kernel source/headers for third party Android development.
[3:40] <[Saint]> Android runs on them right of of the box.
[3:41] <[Saint]> I have an XU4 running as an Android television set top box.
[3:42] <[Saint]> It's nice being able to run sane linux distributions largely unmodified and boot/compile/run Android right out of the box.
[3:44] <[Saint]> Prior to that I was using device mirroring via Chromecast on my Nexus 5/6, but that was a bit cumbersome and clunky and I didn't really like it relying so heavily on my phone.
[3:44] <[Saint]> Now the TV has a dedicated Android set to box and there's a wireless mouse and keyboard sitting in the coffee table drawer for it.
[3:44] <exonormal> sweet...
[3:45] <exonormal> you sound like a millionare
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[3:45] <[Saint]> The next Android powered home thing-a-ma-jigger I want to build is an Android powered mirror.
[3:46] <exonormal> man you must be gifted...
[3:46] <Anitox> next level vanity?
[3:46] <[Saint]> I've seen quite a lot of really nice "smart mirror" builds lately and it is something I've always wanted to build.
[3:46] <[Saint]> Anitox: More to provide relevant information - with user modes and face detection you can run several accounts and display relevant information for each user when it unlocks.
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[3:47] <Anitox> oh, display on the mirror
[3:47] <[Saint]> Like calendar, schedule, weather, travel time, navigation, etc.
[3:47] <[Saint]> Yep.
[3:47] <Anitox> yeah, that's interesting stuff
[3:47] <[Saint]> I have a couple of old 10" tablets that I can scavenge for the purpose.
[3:48] <Valduare> ok here’s what i’ve been following
[3:48] <Valduare> http://popoklopsi.github.io/RaspberryPi-LedStrip/#/
[3:48] <[Saint]> One thing I really want to do but haven't seen done yet is to break out a power/wake button onto a capacitive button underneath the mirror itself.
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[3:49] <[Saint]> I've already started working on an application to manage user detection/switching and information display/configure.
[3:49] <Valduare> hows this look?
[3:49] <Valduare> http://html.alldatasheet.com/html-pdf/135642/FAIRCHILD/FDU8796/486/1/FDU8796.html
[3:49] <Valduare> here’s the mosfets I have
[3:49] <Valduare> just about ready to plug it all into the pi but want someoen to verify first for me
[3:50] <[Saint]> You should be good.
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[3:52] <TandyUK> hmm got a permissions issue i think... i have a simple script which turns my relay on, waits 20 secs and turns it off
[3:53] <TandyUK> it also echoes a line to the exim mainlog
[3:53] <TandyUK> when run from shell, as root or Debian-exim, it works fine
[3:53] <TandyUK> when called by a piped email, exim clearly waits about 15 seconds and says it has called the script, but the relay doesnt change
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[3:54] <TandyUK> any ideas how i can debug why it wont get called by exim?
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[4:03] <TandyUK> ok its definitely the python script
[4:03] <TandyUK> for some reason when being called from an email pipe, the script dies
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[4:09] <Valduare> gah its not working
[4:10] <Hitechcg> :(
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[4:15] <Valduare> heh probing around it appears the staples im using for running ground to ground rail in the breadboard are not making contact
[4:15] <Valduare> that could be part of it
[4:15] <Valduare> maybe.
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[4:21] <Valduare> working!
[4:21] <Valduare> woot
[4:23] <exonormal> congrats!!!!
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[4:24] <exonormal> is it blinking?
[4:25] <exonormal> or is it throbing?
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[4:29] <[Saint]> Throbbing?
[4:29] <[Saint]> ( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)
[4:29] <exonormal> lol
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[4:29] <exonormal> his LEDs he's trying to get going...
[4:30] <[Saint]> I can be an LED.
[4:30] <exonormal> with that mosfet thingy he got off an old mobo
[4:30] <[Saint]> I can be anything you want me to, baby.
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[4:30] <exonormal> lol, okay [Saint]
[4:30] <[Saint]> On an entirely unrelated note, I just watched Solace, and I wasn't really expecting to like it - but it is a pretty solid film.
[4:32] <exonormal> cool... heh, it is a good one
[4:32] <Valduare> coded it up now its fading between colors
[4:32] <exonormal> sweet!!!
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[4:32] <exonormal> you'll have to a short vid of it and share it
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[4:33] <Valduare> the most advanced thing i’ve done yet with electronics heh
[4:33] <exonormal> yes, congrats, Valduare
[4:33] <Valduare> all out of a junker psu and mobo
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[4:34] <Valduare> what other fun things can I do now that I have these 3 mosfets :P
[4:34] <exonormal> I do the same stuff at work everyday, Valduare
[4:34] <exonormal> lol
[4:34] <exonormal> one at a time, now....
[4:34] <Valduare> whew these leds are bright heh
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[4:36] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
[4:37] <Valduare> o/ guess what sir_galahad_ad :)
[4:37] <sir_galahad_ad> what's up Valduare ?
[4:37] <Valduare> got my circuit working with the mosfets and led strip
[4:37] <sir_galahad_ad> wooo!
[4:38] <Valduare> now trying to figure out why the colors are not matching rgb values from inkscape heh
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[4:39] <sir_galahad_ad> i don't even know what an inkscape is :P
[4:39] <Valduare> graphics program
[4:39] <exonormal> patience, Valduare, take your time...
[4:40] <exonormal> time for me to depart... good night folks...
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[4:42] <sir_galahad_ad> night
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[4:42] <warpie> nite
[4:43] * sir_galahad_ad takes a transformer out of a microwave to zap people
[4:44] <Valduare> and dies :P
[4:45] <Valduare> hmm this python script is taking 100% cpu to fade the leds lol
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[4:46] <sir_galahad_ad> throw a 1ms delay in there?
[4:47] <sware> hello. Does anyone know where I can get the source to the epiphany browser?
[4:47] <sir_galahad_ad> why does that sound familiar? is that the KDE browser?
[4:48] <Valduare> epiphany is the browser raspbian uses
[4:48] * sir_galahad_ad uses ice weasel
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[4:49] <sware> I've found midori the fastest so far on raspbian with pi2.
[4:49] <sware> I'm curious about the hardware acceleration for html5 video implemented in epiphany
[4:51] <Valduare> heh just rigged up a fan to keep the coil of rgb leds cool
[4:51] <sir_galahad_ad> did they really need to be kept cool?
[4:52] <Valduare> they would keep themselves cool if they were unrolled
[4:52] <Valduare> but they are all still on the spool
[4:52] * sir_galahad_ad didn't realize that semi-conductors could spoil
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[4:55] <Hitechcg> What's the best thing to do with a fried RPi?
[4:55] <Valduare> what happend to it
[4:55] <Hitechcg> Mine was just fried by a shitty power supply
[4:56] <Hitechcg> That came in a /kit/ for the RPi2...
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[4:56] <Hitechcg> poor pi
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[4:57] <Valduare> its a p2 that fried?
[4:57] <Hitechcg> pi1
[4:57] <Valduare> which pi1
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[4:57] <Hitechcg> Model B Rev 2.0
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[4:58] <Valduare> if it was psu related, look with magnafine glass at the smd components near the power jack
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[4:58] <Valduare> see if any are missing
[4:58] <Hitechcg> Why?
[4:58] <Valduare> because if they are missing you can solder a replacement
[4:59] <Hitechcg> I know it's the ARM
[4:59] <Valduare> how do you know
[5:00] <Hitechcg> It gets really hot as soon as you plug it in. Also, the POWER LED gets slightly dim, then slowly fades out completely (I'm guessing that the power supply itself is shutting down - I've tried two PSUs)
[5:01] <Hitechcg> Similar to the last Pi I fried ages ago in April 2014 or so (that time was my fault)
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[5:01] <Valduare> look for smd components that look damaged around the power jack
[5:01] <Valduare> its a small pcb wont take you long :)
[5:02] <Hitechcg> none are
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[5:04] <Hitechcg> And I doubt the ARM would get hot (and that the Pi would still be fixable) if it was simply a power supply component
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[5:08] <Hitechcg> Just so you know, same thing when plugged in via the pin header, except the power LED doesn't fade to black
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[5:18] <sir_galahad_ad> Hitechcg: that sucks :(
[5:18] <sir_galahad_ad> Hitechcg: but it's an excuse to buy a pi 2 :D
[5:18] <Hitechcg> I actually have a Pi2
[5:18] <Hitechcg> But I hate Micro SD cards
[5:19] <sir_galahad_ad> why hate micro SD cards?
[5:19] <sir_galahad_ad> just because they're easy to lose, or is there a technical thing i don't know about?
[5:19] <Hitechcg> I hate all monolith flash devices in general
[5:19] <Hitechcg> Also
[5:20] <Hitechcg> These two Emtec MicroSDs are probably TLC, vs the Lexar SD card in my RPi, which I know had two MLC NAND chips
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[5:21] <sir_galahad_ad> i'm afraid i'm not up on my SD cards i really don't know what you just said :)
[5:25] <[Saint]> Three Level Cell, and Multi Level Cell respectively.
[5:25] <[Saint]> There's also SLC, Single Layer Cell.
[5:25] <Hitechcg> TLC=triple level chip, four states of NAND, higher data density, least reliable. MLC=three states, SLC=single layer chip, two states (0 and 1), most reliale
[5:25] <sir_galahad_ad> ah
[5:26] <[Saint]> I think there's also something called EMLC, but I'm not exactly sure what the "Enterprise" in EMLC means.
[5:26] <[Saint]> higher density cells, I think?
[5:26] <Hitechcg> Monolithic memory (some SD cards and flash drives, and all MicroSD cards) is where the whole device is in one chip vs a circuit board with NAND chip(s) and a controller
[5:27] <Hitechcg> Worst thing ever invented IMHO
[5:27] <Valduare> at least they are neat looking :P
[5:27] <Hitechcg> My monolith SanDisk Cruzer Blade barely lasted a month, with light use
[5:27] <[Saint]> Nothing wrong with uSD.
[5:28] <Hitechcg> And the flash drive that died on me ages ago was monolith
[5:28] <[Saint]> Besides heat dissipation.
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[5:28] <[Saint]> But that's always going to be an issue in uSD.
[5:28] <[Saint]> The format doesn't lend itself well to high densities.
[5:28] <Hitechcg> I didn't think that memory got that hot..
[5:29] <[Saint]> uSD can, and does.
[5:29] <[Saint]> and any waste heat is energy lost, so...
[5:29] <Hitechcg> Hot enough to matter?
[5:31] <[Saint]> "matter" in terms of "will it cause anything to throttle?", no, because they have no concept of thermal management and can't transfer heat to anything else reliably enough to matter for that device to thermal throttle, but enough to make them really inefficient.
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[6:50] <Hitechcg> Ugh, I think my two MicroSD cards are fake
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[6:52] <Hitechcg> Actually, at 3MB/s write speed, I'm not even going to bother testing them
[6:52] <Hitechcg> Now I'm angry
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[6:57] <Hitechcg> DD-ing them to disk images both stops at 693MB (693157856B)...
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[6:57] <Hitechcg> welp, there goes my IRC bouncer
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[6:59] <Hitechcg> They don't even eject properly - something about not a block device (Ubuntu btw)
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[7:01] <swift110-phone> Sup
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[7:20] <swift110-phone> Ok
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[7:26] <swift110-phone> Loud in here
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[7:27] <Hitechcg> ?
[7:27] <swift110-phone> Lol its a joke
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[7:51] <brianx> Hitechcg: dd is always done to devices that are *not* mounted.
[7:52] <Hitechcg> It wasn't
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[7:52] <brianx> ok, good.
[7:52] <Hitechcg> Also, I used sdb and not sdb1
[7:53] <brianx> are you doing a sync command before removing the card?
[7:53] <brianx> sdb is good.
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[7:53] <sanmarcos> is there a way for the terminal to open in my home folder by default rather than / ?
[7:54] <Hitechcg> Didn't bother `sync`ing. I changed my mind; using f3read to test the card now.
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[7:56] <Hitechcg> gparted claims it's 661.05MiB
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[7:59] <brianx> eh, so that can't read.
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[8:00] <Hitechcg> Huh, maybe it's not a fake
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[8:05] <Xark> Just a fake size?
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[8:06] <Hitechcg> Data OK: 14.45 GB (30302144 sectors)
[8:06] <Hitechcg> Probably not fake, but still weird
[8:07] <Xark> Hmm, windows can get confused when partition table sizes change sometimes.
[8:07] <Hitechcg> I'll look into this tomorrow, but for now, I'm too tired
[8:07] <Hitechcg> I'm in Ubuntu
[8:07] <Xark> Okay. Goodnight. :)
[8:09] <Hitechcg> But I /CAN/ say that there's no way that that thing is class 10 like it claims
[8:10] <swift110-phone> Hmm
[8:11] <kevireilly_> I think I just toasted an SD card with a broken raspberry SD slot. One of the plastic corners came off and it seems like the card isn’t readable without a decent amount of pressure applied. Should I get and solder in a new slot or any other recommendations?
[8:11] <kevireilly_> a tiny clothespin seemed to work until I blew it
[8:12] <kevireilly_> perhaps a regular sized clothespin
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[8:14] <swift110-phone> Ok
[8:16] <Hitechcg> At least you didn't toast your ROi
[8:16] <Hitechcg> *RPi
[8:17] <Hitechcg> (unless you had super important data on it that was worth >$35 to you for some reason)
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[8:20] <swift110-phone> Ok
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[8:26] <brianx> hinderaker: class 10 is always measured at the device's perfect conditions. and often a bit exagerated too.
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[8:30] <driftwood> hi all
[8:30] <h4x3> moin
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[8:34] <driftwood> hows things . am keen raspberry pi user , btw , but not as much experience as i want . bought a kit of electroniv parts to attach to gpio to make lights flash etc . not easy using it but hopefully will get there
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[8:35] <driftwood> @ping
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[8:46] <driftwood> !help
[8:47] <AnonRecluse13> will there ever be a Raspberry Pi 3 Model C?
[8:47] <AnonRecluse13> eventually
[8:47] <Habbie> AnonRecluse13, in general those who know, do not answer :)
[8:48] <Habbie> AnonRecluse13, are you looking for any specific features?
[8:48] <AnonRecluse13> Habbie, thank you for your honesty :)
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[8:48] <mlelstv> just wait for Raspberry Pi 42 Model Z and look at the history books.
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[8:48] <AnonRecluse13> Gigabit Ethernet, USB 3.0, 4GB RAM
[8:48] <mlelstv> 4GB ? tiny
[8:48] <AnonRecluse13> ok, 8GB
[8:48] <mlelstv> why not 640GB ?
[8:48] <Habbie> AnonRecluse13, i'm not sure any of those match the focus of the foundation (but what do i know)
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[9:05] <mzbotr> Could I get i2p and a torrent client working on a raspberry pi?
[9:05] <mgottschlag> AnonRecluse13: btw, something Intel Celeron N3150 based sounds like what you want.
[9:05] <mzbotr> and if so, are battery packs available to keep the thing alive for a little over a day? (:
[9:06] <mgottschlag> (system cost with power supply and RAM probably around 120-130€)
[9:06] <Habbie> mgottschlag, no fun ARM boards with those specs?
[9:06] <mgottschlag> nothing with 4GB at least, the Odroid XU4 is probably the closest
[9:06] <Habbie> mzbotr, i don't see why not, 1GB of RAM can fit those apps easily and any decent phone battery back will do
[9:07] <Habbie> mgottschlag, ah yes, 4 is a lot
[9:07] <mgottschlag> similar CPU performance, ~100€, 2GB RAM
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[9:08] <AnonRecluse13> mzbotr: yes you can.
[9:08] <AnonRecluse13> i am going to use a Pi 2 eventually, god they are awesome.
[9:09] <mgottschlag> mzbotr: it always depends on the size of the battery, and you can get those in any sizes
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[9:10] <AnonRecluse13> mgottschlag, what about the Intel Galileo 2?
[9:10] <mgottschlag> 500mA * 24h = 12Ah, then multiply that with 2 to account for losses and cell degradation
[9:11] <mgottschlag> AnonRecluse13: what about it? it does not have 2GB RAM iirc, it does not have USB 3, it probably does not have GigE
[9:11] <AnonRecluse13> ok, sorry
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[9:12] <mgottschlag> 256MB RAM, 400MHz single core Intel chip. PCIe though, apparently.
[9:13] <swift110-phone> Hmm
[9:14] <AnonRecluse13> or the Fox SBC?
[9:14] <AnonRecluse13> its $570 though, lol
[9:15] <mgottschlag> never heard of that one :)
[9:15] <mgottschlag> anyways, bbl
[9:15] <AnonRecluse13> i think i'd be happy with a Pi 2, odroid XU4 or C2
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[9:17] <AnonRecluse13> or a Banana Pi 2
[9:17] <AnonRecluse13> or Orange Pi 2
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[9:19] <sanmarcos> is there any way to use BCM 6/13/12/16 (Pins 31, 33, 32, 36)with WiringPi
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[9:21] <RoBo_V> hey guys which kernel RPi2 using ?
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[9:21] <buZz> RoBo_V: the linux one
[9:21] <buZz> :)
[9:21] <sanmarcos> how do I know when its safe to unplug the raspberry pi after shutting down?
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[9:21] <RoBo_V> buZz: lol thanks if u go further can you tell me version xD
[9:22] <buZz> ;)
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[9:22] <buZz> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux
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[9:23] <buZz> 4.1.x ?
[9:23] <RoBo_V> 4.x yup that is good
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[9:24] <RoBo_V> RPi B+ on 3.18.14
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[10:08] <swift110-phone> Ok
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[10:14] <ScrumpyJack> morning
[10:16] <ScrumpyJack> how do i go about using one of those? I'm very new to hardware "programming" http://www.modmypi.com/electronics/leds/diffused-rgb-tri-colour-led-common-anode/
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[10:20] <buZz> treat them like 3 seperate leds
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[10:28] <ScrumpyJack> one resistor on eash pin?
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[10:31] <ScrumpyJack> it's common anode, is that a problem?
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[10:32] <b3h3m0th> I want to buy a raspberry pi. Is there any portal where I can select the hardware I need and order for shipping or something like that ?
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[10:33] <ScrumpyJack> http://swag.raspberrypi.org/
[10:33] <mgottschlag> ScrumpyJack: one resistor on each cathode pin, and connect those to GPIO
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[10:33] <mgottschlag> and the anode to 5V
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[10:34] <mgottschlag> you can use online resistor calculators to get the resistor values, or try to learn more about what diodes are and how resistors work
[10:34] <mgottschlag> in any case, I'd suggest you use a bit less than 20mA per pin
[10:34] <b3h3m0th> thanks ScrumpyJack
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[10:35] <mgottschlag> bbl
[10:35] <Berg> b3h3m0th: https://www.raspberrypi.org/
[10:35] <b3h3m0th> I don't know the deal with the different models of pi. If I knew that, I could have matched it with my list of requirements
[10:35] <Berg> oops slow reply
[10:36] <Berg> what do you want to do with your raspberry b3h3m0th
[10:37] <b3h3m0th> I don't have any specific requirements that I can think of now, other than automating stuff.
[10:37] <Berg> for now the new flavour of the month is raspberry pi zero
[10:37] <b3h3m0th> but if I get to know the differences between them, maybe I could spot the right one for me
[10:37] <buZz> pi0 has stock again?
[10:37] <Berg> no idea
[10:37] <buZz> why not
[10:37] <mgottschlag> b3h3m0th: automating as in, you want to connect electronics to GPIO?
[10:38] <Berg> well if you want a full powered pi get the raspberry pi 2 model b
[10:38] <buZz> thats not powered
[10:38] <Berg> I have relays hooked to my rpi2
[10:38] <buZz> you'd need a external power supply
[10:38] <mgottschlag> you probably want the 2B anyways, because the zero is not available
[10:38] <Berg> i mean the most powerfull
[10:39] <Berg> sheesh
[10:39] <b3h3m0th> whatever work I have to do on my pc, I use python to automate. I was thinking if I get a pi, I could extend that to the physical world
[10:39] <buZz> Berg: oh sorry for not understanding what you didnt say ;)
[10:39] <Xark> The 2B performs vastly better, so unless you need ultra cheap or low-power, go with it.
[10:39] <Berg> well i forgive you
[10:39] <Berg> never let it happen again
[10:39] <buZz> k added to /ignore
[10:39] <buZz> ^_^
[10:39] <Berg> thanks
[10:39] <buZz> yw
[10:39] <Berg> save me more trouble
[10:40] <buZz> press ctrl-S
[10:40] <Berg> heheh
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[10:41] <Berg> there is lots of programs already made scripts etc to run a automated house
[10:41] <Berg> google works
[10:41] <b3h3m0th> zero does not have GPIO ?
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[10:41] <selckin> it has zero features
[10:41] <mgottschlag> b3h3m0th: although... if you want home automation, it's often spread all over your house, so a small platform with wifi like the ESP8266 might be better (although much more difficult to use)
[10:41] <mgottschlag> it has GPIO, just like the other PIs
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[10:42] <Metalsutton> Hey guys. Im designing a bit of a development system. And I need some advice on how to do it
[10:42] <mgottschlag> in fact, the main argument why one would want the zero instead of one of the other models is because *only* GPIOs are required, and you don't care about any PC peripherals :)
[10:43] <mgottschlag> b3h3m0th: or the NodeMCU, that's a lua-based ESP8266 system
[10:43] <mgottschlag> if you want to control everything from one place, the pi is perfect
[10:44] <Metalsutton> http://i.imgur.com/lVfvbjC.png Its a mini laptop, with a breadboard, a pi + arduino, and a 7" portrait touch screen
[10:44] <buZz> too big
[10:44] <buZz> this is my laptop ;
[10:44] <buZz> http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--No_MHDIl--/18raz3oqugf4djpg.jpg <--
[10:44] <b3h3m0th> palmtop :D
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[10:45] <buZz> mgottschlag: fyi that nodemcu-esp8266 board doesnt depend on lua one bit
[10:45] <buZz> mgottschlag: you can just run normal C code on it
[10:45] <Metalsutton> to the left and right of the screen, I want to create some led lit panels, sort of retro style that are to do with the system
[10:45] <mgottschlag> I know, but for home automation, Lua is good enough
[10:46] <mgottschlag> and I don't think there is any micropython available for that board yet (if that's what b3h3m0th would prefer)
[10:46] <buZz> Metalsutton: fyi, having lights toward your face while looking at screen at same location, is highly unergonomic
[10:46] <buZz> Metalsutton: and could cause massive eyestrain
[10:46] <buZz> mgottschlag: lua isnt good for anything imho
[10:46] <Metalsutton> As its for programming/compiling, I was wondering if I could setup lights for things like, email notifications, compile errors etc
[10:46] <buZz> mgottschlag: uses way too much ram
[10:47] <Metalsutton> the leds wouldnt be on the outside of the panel, the leds would light up some tinted colour things.
[10:47] <^74NK> here is my pc http://pasteboard.co/1prxZ1jW.png
[10:47] <^74NK> im on it now
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[10:48] <Metalsutton> I want the arduino to be dedicated to the dev board. So i was thinking i could use the pi's gpio for setting up the display.
[10:48] <buZz> what board is that ^74NK
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[10:48] <^74NK> nanoPi 2
[10:48] <buZz> whyyyy are none of these SBC's ARMv8
[10:48] <buZz> wtf is with all the 5+ year old cpus :/
[10:48] <^74NK> 1.4ghz cortex A9 quad core, 1gb 32bit ddr3 ram
[10:48] <mgottschlag> buZz: experience, or just something you've heard somewhere? 256KiB should be more than enough for medium size lua projects :)
[10:49] <mgottschlag> and there are python ports to microcontrollers
[10:49] <buZz> mgottschlag: experience, i was parsing a single json and hosting some webpages
[10:49] <buZz> mgottschlag: ran outta ram hella quick
[10:49] <buZz> mgottschlag: (also note my hostname on irc, and then correlate to first 3 google hits you get for 'esp8266' )
[10:50] <^74NK> so your running irc from a microcontroller?
[10:50] <buZz> ^74NK: sorry for running two conversations at once, i wasnt aware you arent multitask capable ;)
[10:51] <buZz> i'm not, i'm irc-ing from a quad quadxeon with 32GB ram
[10:51] <^74NK> i am acapable of multitasking
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[10:51] <mgottschlag> hm, okay, interesting :)
[10:51] <mgottschlag> anyways, really bbl now
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[10:52] <^74NK> i looked it up
[10:53] <^74NK> Dell poweredge,is that the right one?
[10:53] <^74NK> have you tried running benches on that thing, buzz?
[10:53] <buZz> i think this machine is a supermicro, but yes, many brands and types of servers exist
[10:53] <buZz> ^74NK: i was mining bitcoins on it for test
[10:53] <buZz> quite good
[10:54] <^74NK> lol bitcoin minining requires too many tera hashes
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[10:54] <buZz> i make ~10 usd a day on mining
[10:54] <buZz> whatever you want to make yourself believe is fine by me ;)
[10:54] <^74NK> what about electricity?
[10:54] <buZz> it comes out of the wall
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[10:55] <^74NK> $ for kilo watt hour?
[10:55] <buZz> 0.06
[10:55] <buZz> like most bigger powerusers in europe i get discounts
[10:55] <^74NK> how many watts per hour
[10:55] <buZz> enough
[10:55] <^74NK> i pay .14 cents
[10:55] <buZz> 10 usd is profit
[10:55] <^74NK> this aint fair at all
[10:56] <buZz> fairness has nothing to do with making right choices
[10:56] <^74NK> have you ever tried
[10:56] <buZz> yes
[10:56] <Metalsutton> Can anyone think of any cool notifications lights that would be useful on a devkit?
[10:56] <buZz> Metalsutton: 3000W DMX strobe lights
[10:56] <Metalsutton> lol
[10:57] <ScrumpyJack> mgottschlag: what's the difference between common anode and common cathode? what does the "common" bit mean?
[10:57] <^74NK> generating BTC wallet adresses, and looking them up in bulk for possible balance?
[10:57] <Metalsutton> It might be a bit hard to link it to a compilier/error codes.
[10:57] <^74NK> have you tried that/
[10:57] <buZz> ^74NK: haha yes i have
[10:57] <Xark> buZz: Perhaps with a "wake you up" sub-woofer? :)
[10:58] <^74NK> any luck?
[10:58] <buZz> 2^256 possible addresses makes for slow-ass lottery
[10:58] <^74NK> yes i know
[10:58] <ScrumpyJack> mgottschlag: can you recommend some documents about diodes and resistors?
[10:58] <^74NK> but with computing power you can buy 30 thousand tickets a second
[10:58] <buZz> ^74NK: i need 2-4 sata6gbps SSDs to test faster
[10:58] <buZz> plz send
[10:59] <mgottschlag> ScrumpyJack: http://i.stack.imgur.com/egSqx.png
[10:59] <^74NK> 60 dolars
[10:59] <^74NK> for 240gb
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[11:00] <mgottschlag> ScrumpyJack: I don't have any documents, but the basic rule is that the diode drops a specific voltage (correlating to the color of the diode), and the remaining voltage is dropped over the resistor. You can calculate the voltage over the resistor by subtracting the diode voltage from 5V, and then use Ohms law and your target current to calculate the resistor value
[11:01] <buZz> ^74NK: 60 usd for 4x 240gb? sounds good
[11:01] <^74NK> for 1x
[11:01] <ScrumpyJack> mgottschlag: I need to learn what all that means :)
[11:01] <mgottschlag> ScrumpyJack: http://www.oksolar.com/led/led_color_chart.htm
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[11:01] <^74NK> thats 200 after begging for discounts
[11:01] <buZz> nobody has usd
[11:01] <ScrumpyJack> i've got a simple led/resistor kit in the post, hopefully that will hlep
[11:01] <buZz> or takes them
[11:01] <mgottschlag> basically, in a circuit, the voltages along a path from +5V to GND will always add up to 5V, no matter what you do
[11:02] <mgottschlag> whereas the current is always the same (unless there are Y junctions somewhere along the path, where parts of the current flow somewhere else)
[11:03] <^74NK> buzz where in europe are you situated>
[11:04] <buZz> westcoast
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[11:05] <^74NK> you mean lke portugal spain?
[11:05] <buZz> yeah west coast
[11:05] <buZz> the coast on the west
[11:05] <buZz> what part is hard about that :P
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[11:05] <^74NK> first thought was cali soz
[11:06] <buZz> i can again point to my hostname
[11:06] <buZz> caliboredia isnt in europe
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[11:23] <ScrumpyJack> mgottschlag: what's a good introduction book on electronics that would start at those basics?
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[11:28] <mgottschlag> ScrumpyJack: I don't know. In ##electronics, they seem to suggest http://www.ibiblio.org/kuphaldt/electricCircuits/
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[11:29] <kevireilly_> Is a 1k resitor with 5% tolerance too much for a simple LED?
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[11:29] <mgottschlag> sounds about right
[11:30] <kevireilly_> weird.. I’m getting 3.3 current but I’m not getting any light. LED could be burnt out?
[11:30] <mgottschlag> the actual current depends on the LED and the supply voltage,
[11:30] <mgottschlag> hm, 1mA should be enough to light a regular 5mm LED
[11:30] <mgottschlag> is the polarization correct? otherwise you could have burnt it
[11:31] <mgottschlag> (LEDs do not like reverse current)
[11:31] <daveake> They need more than 3.3V reverse to cause damage
[11:31] <kevireilly_> its possible I reversed it, tried a buzzer and have ran out of things to try ;)
[11:31] <mgottschlag> yeah, but he might have used 5V
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[11:32] <daveake> I shall repeat my statement with 3.3 replaced by 5, then :)
[11:32] <daveake> IIRC it's more than 6, but it'll be in the datasheet
[11:32] <buZz> kevireilly_: dont run leds without resistors
[11:32] <buZz> or you will burn them, yes
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[11:33] <shiftplusone> waveform: ping
[11:33] <waveform> shiftplusone, hi!
[11:33] <kevireilly_> thanks for the info everyone.. did test the voltage first but it is quite possible i boofed it
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[11:34] <daveake> Checked one. 5V. :)
[11:34] <mgottschlag> yeah, across 1k that's not going to be enough current to destroy it :)
[11:34] <shiftplusone> waveform: ahoy! I just noticed a picraft drop, but it seems to be the same version that's already in the repo.
[11:34] <mgottschlag> kevireilly_: what color does the LED have?
[11:35] <waveform> picraft drop? should be gpiozero 1.1 which we released last night?
[11:35] <kevireilly_> mgottschlag: hmm it is clear
[11:35] <daveake> He means, what colour is it supposed to light up ?
[11:35] <shiftplusone> waveform: false alarm, I see what happened.
[11:36] <kevireilly_> ah actually not sure, came with some kit that I don’t recall
[11:36] <waveform> shiftplusone, ahh - got worried I'd completely broken my build-scripts there :)
[11:36] <shiftplusone> heh
[11:36] <waveform> (the same box builds all my debs - picamera, picraft, and gpiozero - was a bit worried it'd started naming things wrong!)
[11:36] <mgottschlag> kevireilly_: how did you connect the LED?
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[11:37] <shiftplusone> waveform: should be added now.
[11:38] <waveform> sweet - thanks :)
[11:38] <kevireilly_> mgottschlag: pi cobbler, half-sized breadboard, gnd to - rail, slot 22 with 1k resitor to - rail to short side of led, 3.3v to slot 23 with long side of led
[11:38] <kevireilly_> s/slot/row
[11:38] <shiftplusone> hey, you did all the work. >.>
[11:39] <shiftplusone> well you and Ben
[11:39] <mgottschlag> maybe try 5V instead of 3.3V, jus in case the LED is blue or white :p
[11:39] <waveform> actually we got some brilliant PRs from the community this time round - most of the ADC work was "pcopa" on github, and Martin chipped in with the LED bar graph stuff
[11:39] <shiftplusone> always good when that happens
[11:40] <waveform> yeah - it was great to see some community engagement - with a bit of luck we'll get even more for 1.2
[11:40] <kevireilly_> mgottschlag: noopers. I’ve got a couple motion sensors that I’ll give a whirl instead
[11:41] <kevireilly_> at least i’ve got backups of those haha
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[12:44] <ScrumpyJack> anyone figured out what the little hole at the top of this A+ case lid is for? http://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/cases/adafruit-pi-box/adafruit-raspberry-pi-a-plus-case-smoke-base-with-clear-top/
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[12:45] <shiftplusone> air flow or maybe to pass cables out from gpio
[12:45] <shiftplusone> I'll go with airflow
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[13:34] <DWKnight> ScrumpyJack: my first thought is if you mount your camera module inside the case
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[14:21] <Sonny_Jim> Can someone tell me what the MAC address of a Pi2 starts with?
[14:21] <Sonny_Jim> Trying to find it on the network
[14:22] <Sonny_Jim> Ah ok, it's B8:27:EB
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[14:24] <Sonny_Jim> My mc23017s turned up today, but stupidly I forgot to order the 4021's
[14:24] <Sonny_Jim> Still, I've got enough to work on the SNES->Pi bit, extended the piNes stuff to read 16bits back rather than 8
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[14:31] <gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, hello?
[14:31] <gordonDrogon> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr b8:27:eb:84:75:2a
[14:32] <gordonDrogon> same as all Pi's from what I gather...
[14:32] <currybullen> does anyone know if pi-hole solely relies on DNS to block out ads or does it do it by other means as well?
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[14:39] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[14:41] <Sonny_Jim> 22% [1 wolfram-engine 82.9 MB/236 MB 35%] 63.5 kB/s 1h 16min 34s
[14:42] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm :\
[14:42] <Sonny_Jim> How do I select a different mirror?
[14:42] <Sonny_Jim> Wasn't there a cli command to select a mirror?
[14:43] <shiftplusone> Sonny_Jim: best to uninstall wolfram-engine, nodered and sonicpi if you don't use them
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[14:45] <Sonny_Jim> Not a bad idea, considering it's like half a gig(!)
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[14:46] <shiftplusone> a they have lots of small files which take forever to unpack
[14:47] <shiftplusone> nuscratch is another one that good to get rid of... maybe the java packages, libreoffice.... basically whetever you don't use.
[14:47] <shiftplusone> Btw, don't do an upgrade right now, wait a few minutes
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[14:48] <Sonny_Jim> Whys that?
[14:48] <shiftplusone> to put it mildly, there has been a firmware snafu. An experimental 'sdhost' driver is on by default instead of 'mmc', which doesn't work with some sd cards.
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[14:49] <shiftplusone> scrambling to push out an update so that people don't upgrade and find that they can no longer boot.
[14:49] <Sonny_Jim> heh
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[14:49] <shiftplusone> building the .debs now
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[15:01] <Tenkawa> Bilby: fun weather eh?
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[15:02] <Bilby> pretty much
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[15:02] <Bilby> i took local streets to my destination today and it was still slow going, the radio said traffic on the highway was crazy
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[15:02] <Tenkawa> yeah the traffic map looked very bad
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[15:02] <shiftplusone> Sonny_Jim: should be good to go now.
[15:03] <shiftplusone> apt-get update first
[15:03] <Sonny_Jim> Ta
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[15:10] <ScrumpyJack> DWKnight: yes i thought about the camera, but the square bit around the lens gets in the way
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[15:11] <AnonRecluse13> do you guys happen to know if the odroid XU4 supports HDMI CEC?
[15:11] <AnonRecluse13> i know its a raspberry pi channel, sorry
[15:13] <heller_> anyone know about snmp or rmon?
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[15:13] <heller_> how could i use raspberry pi to get information from a switch or modem?
[15:13] <Habbie> with snmp or rmon, most likely :)
[15:13] <ScrumpyJack> heller_ check snmpwalk
[15:13] <Habbie> have you tried snmpwalk?
[15:13] <Sonny_Jim> SNMP gets complicated :
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[15:20] <AnonRecluse13> would you guys still choose a Pi2 if you were caught between that and the Odroid c1+ ?
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[15:20] <AnonRecluse13> i am not trying to be biased about it, im after opinions haha
[15:21] <AnonRecluse13> i love the raspberry pi 2, but people have said for what i want to get another Pi for, its better suited to get the C1+
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[15:21] <pksato> heller_: Yes, raw data can be get using snmp tools, or use rrdtool or mrtg.
[15:22] <ScrumpyJack> AnonRecluse13: I prefer the RPi "ecosystem"
[15:22] <ScrumpyJack> it seems, just like, bigger
[15:23] <AnonRecluse13> it seems support wise RPi is ALOT more friendly?
[15:23] <AnonRecluse13> because of the IRC channel, dedicated linux distros, and so on
[15:23] <^74NK> yo guys
[15:23] <^74NK> what are odroid c1+ specs?
[15:23] <DrJ> wha's up?
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[15:24] <^74NK> AnonRecluse13: i have nanopi2
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[15:24] <^74NK> 1.4ghz quad CortexA9 1gb ddr3 ram wifi bt4.0 hdmi out, usb hostx1(add hub), microusb 5v2a input
[15:25] <^74NK> i chose it over raspberry pi 2
[15:25] <^74NK> i havent looked at odroid
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[15:26] <Hitechcg> Anyone have any idea why a Micro SD card would simply refuse to repartition?
[15:26] <Habbie> Hitechcg, how is it refusing?
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[15:28] <Hitechcg> I try to dd it with the RPi image, sync, then replug? Plug it in, still FAT with my files on it. I try to dd it to zeros? Nothing (except it pretends to do it very fast). Try to format the raw block device to ext4 then sync and replug? Nothing, still FAT with my files.
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[15:29] <BurtyB> AnonRecluse13, I'd prob wait a couple of weeks for the C2 but it depends what you want to do with it really
[15:29] <Hitechcg> Has Chinese memory gotten even shittier?
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[15:30] <^74NK> try format overwrite, then change filesystem
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[15:31] <Hitechcg> Because it smells to me like the SD card is doing something sketchy (especially because it faked the dd speed of zeroing the device). Every other SD card I've used works properly.
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[15:32] <Hitechcg> What do you mean format otherwise?
[15:32] <Tenkawa> Hitechcg: whats your dd command syntax?
[15:32] <Hitechcg> htcg@htcg-tp11e ~ $ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=8M
[15:32] <Tenkawa> no. for your image write
[15:33] <Hitechcg> depends
[15:34] <Tenkawa> example...?
[15:34] <Hitechcg> I had an old xz-recompressed raspbian, so I tried xzcat ~/path/to/raspbian.img.xz | sudo dd of=/dev/sdb bs=8M, and I also tried it with a decompressed Raspbian Minimal image
[15:35] <Hitechcg> s/Minimal/Lite
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[15:35] <selckin> run "sync" and wait for it to finish
[15:35] <^74NK> format by overwriting each byte so as to not have your previous files there just markeddeleted
[15:35] <selckin> could still be writing/flushing the disk cache
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[15:36] <AnonRecluse13> i just want an an sbc board that i can put it a case, that is capable of playing 3D 1080p mkv files and 4K 1080p mkv's
[15:37] <Hitechcg> dd /should/ overwrite every byte everyways
[15:37] <^74NK> what is a 4k 1080 mkv
[15:37] <AnonRecluse13> and also streaming 1080p channels IPTV and so on
[15:37] <^74NK> my nanopi-2 can do it
[15:37] <^74NK> i'm on it atm
[15:37] <Tenkawa> Hitechcg: not necessarily
[15:37] <Hitechcg> video file
[15:37] <^74NK> runnning android
[15:37] <^74NK> it can run kodi inside android
[15:37] <Hitechcg> mkv=matroska
[15:37] <^74NK> make it a home theater
[15:37] <Tenkawa> disk caching at the os level can still be in pending state
[15:37] <AnonRecluse13> nice
[15:37] <Hitechcg> Tenkawa: What do you mean?
[15:38] <^74NK> how can it be 4k 1080p?
[15:38] <AnonRecluse13> ^74NK, im sure the pi2 can do what i want
[15:38] <^74NK> like the file is 4k but output 1080p?
[15:38] <Hitechcg> ^
[15:38] <Tenkawa> Hitechcg: try a dd if=image of=/dev/sdb oflag=discard bs=2M ; sync
[15:38] <^74NK> lol, pi is laggy sometimes
[15:38] <Tenkawa> Hitechcg: the low level controller io can still have cached data
[15:38] <AnonRecluse13> well, no sorry, its 2160p
[15:39] <^74NK> wat
[15:39] <Tenkawa> you have to use sync to ensure its flushed
[15:39] <^74NK> still dont getchu
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[15:39] <l00p> Hello!
[15:39] <Tenkawa> hi
[15:39] <^74NK> hi
[15:39] <^74NK> sup
[15:39] <AnonRecluse13> its a resolution, 720p, 1080p, 2160p
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[15:39] * Tenkawa can barelt visualize 720p well.. can't even imagine 2160p
[15:39] <Hitechcg> dd: invalid output flag: ‘discard’
[15:39] <l00p> I'm just starting of with muh RaspberryPi 2 Model B. What else do I need to kick it off with muh raspberrypi?
[15:39] <Tenkawa> er
[15:40] <AnonRecluse13> is the pi powerful enough to support 2160p?
[15:40] <Tenkawa> discard/direct
[15:40] <Tenkawa> sorry
[15:40] <^74NK> you said 4k 1080p
[15:40] <^74NK> is that a thing?
[15:40] <Tenkawa> typed it wrong
[15:40] <^74NK> i know them as 2 seperate things
[15:40] <AnonRecluse13> yes, i meant 4K 2160P
[15:40] <AnonRecluse13> 2160p*
[15:40] <Tenkawa> l00p: got a monitor/kb/mouse (optional)?
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[15:41] <^74NK> usb hub with external power
[15:41] <Tenkawa> l00p: I run my pis as headless servers
[15:41] <^74NK> so it doesnt backfeed to rpi
[15:41] <l00p> Nope, nothing yet. right now, I just have the Pi, nothing else. What's the list?
[15:41] <Hitechcg> I think this Micro SD card is just sketchy. I've dealt with fake flash drives before.
[15:41] <Tenkawa> Hitechcg: well.. get another card and rule it out heehee
[15:41] <^74NK> Peripherals (usb mouse, keyboard, wifi/bt adapters, usb hub to power all, 5v1a charger + cable to microusb
[15:42] <^74NK> + class 10 sd cards
[15:42] <Tenkawa> l00p: there should be a guide on the raspberry pi site i "think"
[15:42] <AnonRecluse13> how about the Orange Pi?
[15:42] <Hitechcg> The only two MicroSD cards I have are this type
[15:42] <^74NK> orange pi looks nice
[15:42] <AnonRecluse13> apparently that can handle 4K Playback
[15:42] <l00p> Tenkawa: What are the basics?
[15:42] <Tenkawa> l00p: I've been using them so long I can't really describe new usage much
[15:42] <AnonRecluse13> or the Banana Pi :)
[15:43] <Tenkawa> l00p: mouse, kb, network cable or wifi adapter and display
[15:43] <Tenkawa> thats the typical needed compnoents to get started
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[15:43] <l00p> Tenkawa: That's about it, eh?
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[15:43] <Hitechcg> And my FUCKING SHIT GODDAMN CHINESE PIECE OF CRAP #$%!@%!! power supply fried my RPi 1 last night. (I have a lot of regular SD cards.)
[15:43] <Tenkawa> someone correct me if i'm wrong but I think so
[15:43] <Tenkawa> oh.. and a microsd card
[15:43] <^74NK> class 10
[15:43] <Tenkawa> (oops almost forgot that)
[15:43] <^74NK> so its fasssst
[15:44] <l00p> Tenkawa: Okay. But, I have a probelem. I can't afford a monitor. Do you think I could use my lappy's screen as muh display?
[15:44] <Tenkawa> brb... afk
[15:44] <^74NK> yes but you need dva wires
[15:44] <^74NK> also convertor
[15:44] <Tenkawa> l00p: not sure... I use them headless
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[15:44] <ozzzy> OFF WITH HIS HEAD
[15:45] <Hitechcg> It claims it's fast. f3write took forever.
[15:45] <^74NK> great scott has a tutorial on youtube
[15:45] <Hitechcg> Claims to be class 10.
[15:45] <l00p> Tenkawa: Like ssh into the Pi
[15:45] <^74NK> oh yes
[15:45] <Hitechcg> Google vnc
[15:46] <^74NK> vnc viewer
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[15:47] <gschanuel> hello folks!
[15:47] <^74NK> hi
[15:47] <Hitechcg> Bye. Ping me if you have something; gonna close the laptop lid, which will go to sleep in 5min...
[15:47] <gschanuel> i was searching but could not find anything real good about.. is there any android lollipop for raspberry pi2 with hardware acceleration?
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[15:49] <^74NK> no ide
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[15:52] <AnonRecluse13> Orange Pi Plus 2 or C2, These are the only 2 i would be interested in that support 4K playback.
[15:52] <^74NK> ask on theirforums
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[15:52] <Tenkawa> back
[15:53] <Tenkawa> l00p: yeah I use ssh only on mine
[15:53] <FatalNIX> man
[15:53] <FatalNIX> the uart on the pi is so sensitive
[15:53] <Tenkawa> FatalNIX: yep
[15:53] <FatalNIX> my beaglebone doesn't give a shit
[15:53] <FatalNIX> lol
[15:53] <Tenkawa> heheh
[15:53] <l00p> Tenkawa: which distro do you use? I use Ubuntu. And what about vnc? TightVNC?
[15:53] <FatalNIX> I thin kI've burned out two pis now
[15:54] <Tenkawa> l00p: I use debian and since I dont use graphics I dont use vnc/x/etc
[15:54] <FatalNIX> pins were in the right place, but afer a long time the thing just burned upo
[15:54] <^74NK> i use vnc viewer
[15:54] <Tenkawa> I'm 99.9% console/terminal
[15:54] <FatalNIX> out of randomness
[15:54] <FatalNIX> I'm not very impressed nonetheless XD
[15:55] <Tenkawa> FatalNIX: which pi?
[15:55] <l00p> Whoa. Pretty unix greybird, I assume? :D
[15:55] <FatalNIX> Tenkawa: one was a zero and one was a pi 1B
[15:55] <Tenkawa> l00p: I'm an old unix user from the early 80's
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[15:55] <Tenkawa> FatalNIX: I use multiple pi2's and a zero
[15:55] <l00p> Tenkawa: Cool.
[15:56] <FatalNIX> Ijust wish I could have more reliable serial comms so I can start frigging programming this crap
[15:57] <FatalNIX> reliably
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[15:57] <FatalNIX> I don't really trust it now for sial over radio
[15:57] <Tenkawa> FatalNIX: which serial cable you using?
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[15:58] <Tenkawa> i had one good and one flaky
[15:58] <BurtyB> can't say I've had a problem with the uart tbh
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[15:58] <Tenkawa> these cables aren't very robust so i wouldnt rule it out either
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[16:00] <FatalNIX> Tenkawa: the adafruit 4 pin
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[16:00] <Tenkawa> hmm thats the one I use
[16:01] <FatalNIX> I have some FTDI ones too but I use those for other arm boards
[16:01] <Tenkawa> only problem I've mostly had is its casing trying to break
[16:01] <Tenkawa> I used it this morning
[16:01] <FatalNIX> these pis got super hot after a couple hours of sitting there idling
[16:01] <FatalNIX> with the serial cable
[16:01] <Tenkawa> yeah
[16:01] <Tenkawa> good point
[16:01] <FatalNIX> then they never work again XD
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[16:02] <Tenkawa> hmm.. wonder if it melts the contact on the tiny cable
[16:02] <FatalNIX> but my beaglebone or stm board or anytthing else I have neve rhad a single issue
[16:02] <FatalNIX> you just gotta be sure you know if it is 5v or 3.3v
[16:02] <FatalNIX> in fact
[16:02] <Tenkawa> yep
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[16:02] <FatalNIX> with my beaglebone I plugged the wrong cable in
[16:02] <FatalNIX> and it worked fine for as long as I didn't notice which was like 10 minutes
[16:02] <FatalNIX> a long time ago
[16:02] <FatalNIX> never did anything to it
[16:02] <Tenkawa> I have 2 beaglebone blacks I havent started up in ages now
[16:03] <FatalNIX> so I think they're a bit more forgiving
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[16:43] <Tenkawa> so.. would it take much to build an armv7 version of the pi zero?
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[16:44] <Tenkawa> from an electronics standpoint?
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[16:46] <plugwash> AIUI the 2836 won't fit in a PoP package and the package currently used for the 2836 plus the seperate ram on the back would almost certainly be too big to fit on the pizero board. Having the ram on the back would also push up assembly costs (one of the reasons the pizero is cheap is because it has no components on the back)
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[16:46] <markfletcher> Hello, anyone tried enabling the experimental opengl driver in raspbian yet?
[16:46] <Tenkawa> ahh
[16:46] <plugwash> So practically an armv7 pi0 would require a new SoC
[16:46] <Tenkawa> plugwash: yeah I was wondering if the fabrication process of the board might be a problem
[16:47] <Tenkawa> guess that answer is definitely yes
[16:47] <Tenkawa> oh well.. I'm still having a lot of fun with the current one
[16:48] <Chillum> plugwash: plus any parts on the back would ruin the zero's ability to have boards attached flat against it
[16:48] <Chillum> which is a great feature
[16:48] <Tenkawa> Chillum: good point
[16:49] <Tenkawa> woohoo
[16:49] <Tenkawa> my new kernel is ready
[16:49] <Tenkawa> lets see how bad i messed it up
[16:49] <Tenkawa> heehee
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[16:56] <Tenkawa> well that didnt go well
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[16:58] <TheLostAdmin> 4 minutes to determine it didn't go well. Huh. At least it's not a subtle type of bad that you don't notice for 3 days.
[16:58] <TheLostAdmin> Sorry, 7 minutes. I can't to math today.
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[17:03] <Lonefish> unpacking raspberrypi bootloader is fucking slooooow
[17:04] <kubast2> which electronic channel do you watch/can you recommend ?
[17:04] <Tenkawa> ok.. somethings definitely broke with that kernel
[17:04] <Tenkawa> time to figure out what
[17:06] <Tenkawa> the led goes out immediately and thats it
[17:06] <Tenkawa> bcm2835 soc on the pi2 right?
[17:06] <kubast2> rpi 1
[17:06] <kubast2> and zero
[17:07] <kubast2> bcm2835 - arm11
[17:07] <Tenkawa> doh,, thats part of the problem
[17:07] <kubast2> bcm2836 = rpi 2
[17:07] <Tenkawa> it rewrote thw config wrong
[17:07] <Tenkawa> thanks
[17:07] <Tenkawa> I thought 2835 seemed wrong
[17:08] <Tenkawa> now to figure out where its hding
[17:08] <Tenkawa> er hiding
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[17:09] <Tenkawa> isnt it in the mainline kernel already (for 4.5-rc anyway?)
[17:10] <Tenkawa> ahh.. bcm2709
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[17:17] <Tenkawa> it appears to be something dtb related
[17:17] <missingRemote> how can you control a rpi with an app from afar?
[17:17] <Tenkawa> like I'm not using or have the right one
[17:18] <missingRemote> wifi has limited range, 3g is expensive
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[17:23] <TrekBike> VPN?
[17:23] <TrekBike> Use a VPN so that if WiFi is available you use WiFi, if 3G/LTE is available you use that
[17:24] <missingRemote> but that still means i need to pay for 3g subscription
[17:25] <TrekBike> Unless you only travel to places that offer free WiFi
[17:25] <TrekBike> What country are you in?
[17:26] <Tenkawa> .quit
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[17:26] <missingRemote> norway
[17:26] <missingRemote> yes, that's the problem
[17:26] <TrekBike> Well then the sparkfun tmobile SIM card won't help sinces its US based
[17:27] <TrekBike> I am IRCing from my RPi at my house while at work in my office.
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[17:28] <missingRemote> the rpi is going to move a lot
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[17:28] <TrekBike> What are you trying to accomplish?
[17:28] <missingRemote> aka it's in a car
[17:29] <missingRemote> keep in contact with the car (temperature, turn heat on/off etc.)
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[17:29] <TrekBike> So you won't be in the car at all times then
[17:29] <missingRemote> nope
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[17:30] <TrekBike> Yeah 2G or 3G or LTE service is your only choice then
[17:30] <missingRemote> i see
[17:30] <shauno> (or sms, if the messages aren't terribly frequent, and you live somewhere that likes to bundle thousands with a basic phone)
[17:30] <missingRemote> well, thanks for your help :)
[17:31] <TrekBike> Whats the range on Zigbee and are they legal in Norway?
[17:31] <missingRemote> sms is not a bad choice
[17:32] <missingRemote> it's legal from what i can tell
[17:33] <TrekBike> N/M Zigbee is even shorter range than blue tooth LE
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[17:35] <TrekBike> Well there is a 900Mhz version of Zigbee that has a 6 mile range
[17:35] <shauno> here's a pretty detailed (he's german, heh) example of sms to/from the pi with a pretty cheap modem dongle - https://myraspberryandme.wordpress.com/2013/09/13/short-message-texting-sms-with-huawei-e220/
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[17:52] <wpad> thanks shauno
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[18:00] <g105b> Hi, I just installed Raspbian to an SD card and booted the pi. I have no screen or keyboard attached, and SSH connections are not being accepted. Does raspbian not come with SSH enabled by default?
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[18:01] <selckin> it does
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[18:01] <selckin> how did you find the ip?
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[18:03] <g105b> selckin: nmap
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[18:03] <g105b> selckin: also the router displays the device, so I'm sure of its IP.
[18:04] <selckin> don't know it comes with ssh by default
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[18:04] <g105b> selckin: trying to connect gives me this error: ssh pi@192.168.1.200
[18:04] <g105b> ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
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[18:07] <gordonDrogon> can you ping it?
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[18:08] <gordonDrogon> ssh is enabled in Raspbian, so if you get its IP and can ping it, you ought to be able to login.
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[18:09] <g105b> gordonDrogon: yes I can ping it
[18:09] <g105b> I'm using RASPBIAN JESSIE LITE if that makes any difference?
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[18:10] <gordonDrogon> no idea. I've never used a 'lite' nor have I used jessie. I can't see that it should as ssh is the only way into a headless setup.
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[18:11] <Habbie> g105b, lite also does ssh
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[18:12] <plugwash> <g105b> ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer <-- I have seen this before on other systems (haven't seen it personally on a pi)
[18:12] <gordonDrogon> I'm wondering if you have an entry in your .ssh/known_hosts file for that IP address ?
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[18:13] <Habbie> g105b, please try ssh -v and patsebin the output
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[18:13] <Habbie> *pastebin
[18:14] <plugwash> I think it's a result of the storage device containing your root filesystem becoming inacccessible because of a hardware/driver issue
[18:14] <g105b> gordonDrogon: great idea.
[18:14] <g105b> gordonDrogon: yes I do, but ssh-keygen -R 192.168.1.200 does not do anything
[18:14] <g105b> gordonDrogon: I removed the entry manually and it logged in fine.
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[18:15] <gordonDrogon> ok, so you're good now?
[18:15] <g105b> gordonDrogon: Habbie: selckin: thanks for getting me there ;)
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[18:15] <gordonDrogon> phew :)
[18:15] <g105b> gordonDrogon: yeah logs in fine, it was just that entry... but it didn't give me the typical MITM ATTACK warning
[18:16] <gordonDrogon> if that hadn't been it, then plugwash's suggesting would have been my next suggstion - check/re-image the SD, etc.
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[18:17] <g105b> md5s were fine, was just my ssh client playing tricks on me.
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[18:18] <dersand> So i just realized that my sd card has around 14 gb total space, and the pi is only using around 3.5 gb of that. Can i increase the size of that partition using 3.5 gb?
[18:18] <gordonDrogon> dersand, sudo raspi-config
[18:18] <gordonDrogon> and select the expand filesystem option.
[18:19] <dersand> gotcha!
[18:19] <gordonDrogon> probably what g105b needs to do now too - unless already on to it...
[18:19] <dersand> didn't think you could to that live, as in you know, mounted
[18:19] <g105b> raspi-config!
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> it doesn't do it live as such - just sets flags to do it at the next reboot.
[18:20] <g105b> yes I'm on it gordonDrogon
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[18:20] <methuzla> and then regional settings for keyboard...
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> and timezone ...
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[18:20] <gordonDrogon> lots of fiddle factor in there :)
[18:20] <dersand> gordonDrogon, thanks alot. Went from 80% used to 21%.
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[18:29] <Harha_> Just setup owncloud on my old raspberry pi model b. :p
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[18:29] <Harha_> Works nicely, but it's a bit clunky, as expected.
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[18:31] <aikidouke> i have a fresh raspbian jessie lite install that i get an error on sudo aptitude upgrade
[18:31] <aikidouke> looks like a dependency issues with libraspberrypi0
[18:32] <Tenkawa> did you do an update first
[18:32] <aikidouke> and the bootloader - didnt see anything recent
[18:32] <aikidouke> yes I did sudo aptitude update
[18:32] <Tenkawa> ok
[18:32] <shiftplusone> What are the dependency issues?
[18:34] <aikidouke> raspi-bootloader is 1.20160209-1 and libraspberrypi0 is 1.20160202
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[18:34] <aikidouke> says libraspberrypi0 is not configured yet
[18:35] <shiftplusone> strange
[18:35] <shiftplusone> Do you have the full output of when it tried to upgrade libraspberrypi0 the first time
[18:37] <aikidouke> yes, im swivelling from my desktop to the pi2 - 1 sec
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[18:39] <aikidouke> actually is there a preferred pastebin? do you want the whole output from dpkg.log or ?
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[18:40] <shiftplusone> any pastebin is fine. The part where it's trying to configure libraspberrypi0 would be good.
[18:41] <aikidouke> ok - hey, I have ssh working...that helps
[18:41] <aikidouke> 1 sec
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[18:45] <aikidouke> here is a paste of /var/log/aptitude http://pastebin.com/raw/vk7ubU7n
[18:46] <aikidouke> i looked through dpkg, but didnt see anything super helpful
[18:46] <selckin> anyone have experience with something like this ? tripod http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/rpi-camera-tripod/rpi-camera-mounttripod/dp/SC13217
[18:47] <aikidouke> apt history looks helpful as well, but if there is something else you want to see, I will wait...thanks for your help btw
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[18:56] <shiftplusone> aikidouke: nope that output doesn't seem helpful. I don't use aptitude, so I am not sure what to expect where. What happens if you just apt-get install whatever package is unconfigured?
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[18:57] <gordonDrogon> selckin, it's cheap enough - case & tripod together by the looks of it...
[18:58] <aikidouke> ok i will try that
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[19:00] <aikidouke> apt told me to try apt-get install -f with no packages
[19:00] <shiftplusone> aikidouke: try that
[19:01] <aikidouke> running now
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[19:02] <aikidouke> ended with an error - last couple of lines of output are:
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[19:02] <aikidouke> Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:02] <aikidouke> /var/cache/apt/archives/raspberrypi-bootloader_1.20160209-1_armhf.deb
[19:02] <aikidouke> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[19:03] <aikidouke> would you like the full output in a paste?
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[19:07] <shiftplusone> anything interesting just before that? I would expect more
[19:07] <aikidouke> yes, let me try to snip some stuff out
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[19:09] <aikidouke> http://pastebin.com/caRAKEZ4
[19:10] <shiftplusone> aikidouke: df -h ?
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[19:12] <aikidouke> http://pastebin.com/raw/SZ6BdyCf
[19:12] <aikidouke> i already ran raspi-config, expanded the sd card, and rebooted
[19:12] <aikidouke> the sda is a usb drive
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[19:13] <shiftplusone> did you reboot before or after the upgrade or after? Doesn't seem like there's anything wrong with the package itself. Your /boot looks suspiciously empty as well
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[19:14] <shiftplusone> If your mmcblk0p1 is actually that empty, I wouldn't expect you to boot at all
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[19:15] <aikidouke> k - would you like to see output of ls /boot or ?
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[19:15] <shiftplusone> Nope, just a heads up that it looks like something is up
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[19:16] <aikidouke> think i should try the full jessie image or maybe another OS?
[19:18] <aikidouke> i'm just planning on using this as an ansible master
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[19:29] <shiftplusone> aikidouke: without knowing what's actually happening, it's hard to tell. Was there anything in dmesg from 'mmc'?
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[19:30] <aikidouke> :( sorry, but I just shut it down. I did look in dmesg I think, but I didnt see anything...
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[19:34] <shiftplusone> Alright
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[19:58] <aikidouke> well, the full sized raspbian boots fine, just ran raspi-config & expanded the sd card filesystem, so far so good
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[20:06] <aikidouke> reboot and all is well, thanks for your help shiftplusone - no idea what I did there
[20:06] <shiftplusone> alright, glad to hear it
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[20:32] <Phrohdoh> Hi all, anyone had any luck hosting an owncloud instance on an rpi2?
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[20:34] <shiftplusone> Yup
[20:34] <shiftplusone> runs quite happily at home
[20:35] <Phrohdoh> Cool. Do you happen to have an installation link handy? I read over the instructions a bit last night and they seemed very cyclical.
[20:36] <Phrohdoh> Hmm seems http://www.owncloudbook.com/owncloud-on-raspberry-pi/ will be easiest if I don't use the pi for anything but owncloud
[20:36] <shiftplusone> No, I believe I installed it using their documentation.
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[20:38] <Phrohdoh> Alright, thanks. At least I know it has been done before. :)
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[20:38] <Bilby> nothing wrong with a purpose built image
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[20:39] <Bilby> It looks like you just install apache and php and then drop owncloud in www-root
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[20:41] <Bilby> i wouldn’t be surprised if there was an apt package too
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[20:41] <shiftplusone> If there's an apt package, I doubt it's up to date. I used nginx instead of apache, so it took a fair bit of fiddling with the configuration and getting the dependencies sorted.
[20:43] <Bilby> Here are a couple of walkthroughs probably worth reading: http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-Owncloud-dropbox-clone/ http://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-owncloud/
[20:44] <Tenkawa> w
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[20:44] <Tenkawa> oops heheh
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[20:45] * Bilby goes forward
[20:45] <Sonny_Jim> gordonDrogon: Just about to test some SNES pads on the GPIO, will let you know how I get on
[20:45] <shiftplusone> l
[20:47] <Tenkawa> brb ... time to see if I have a mmc going bad
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[20:50] <ech0s7> i'm trying to clone my 32GB sdcard with another 32GB sdcard, but that something goes wrong, it's look like the two sdcard has different size !
[20:52] <shiftplusone> yes, when cards are made, they scan for bad blocks and mark them unusuable, so it's likely that they'll be different sizes.
[20:53] <shiftplusone> ech0s7: might want to try this.... https://github.com/raspberrypi/piclone
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[20:54] <ech0s7> thanks shiftplusone
[20:54] <ech0s7> how can i use that script ?
[20:54] <shiftplusone> No idea
[20:55] <ech0s7> ahah :)
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[20:55] <sanmarcos> how do I know when its safe to unplug the raspberry pi after shutting down?
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[20:56] <shiftplusone> sanmarcos: the ACT LED will flash some number of times
[20:56] <shiftplusone> it's something like 8 flashes
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[20:59] <sanmarcos> shiftplusone: ok...
[20:59] <sanmarcos> it would be nicer if all the lights turned off
[21:00] <shiftplusone> How would you know it has power then?
[21:01] <Bilby> lick it?
[21:01] <BurtyB> stick and amp meter on it and wait for it to draw lots ;)
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[21:02] <shiftplusone> I'd prefer to just look at the PWR LED.
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[21:12] <libre> are there any similar laptops like pi-top?
[21:12] <libre> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUAjAGW9kMI
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[21:13] <shiftplusone> wow, pitop looks like it has come a long way
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[21:52] <HattCzech> i'm wondering if someone might be able to help me with a tunneling/proxy question...
[21:53] <Bilby> I can try
[21:53] <HattCzech> i've got my rpi connected to the internet via wlan0
[21:53] <HattCzech> i have a NAS connected to the rpi through eth0
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[21:53] <HattCzech> port 443 is open on the NAS
[21:53] <HattCzech> i want to be able to tunnel 443 through the rpi to the NAS
[21:54] <HattCzech> so i can type 'https://[RPI_IP]' in my browser, and it'll go to the NAS
[21:54] <HattCzech> how would i go about that?
[21:55] <HattCzech> not sure if i need an ssh tunnel or a proxy (both of which i have working, just not sure how to do it properly)
[21:55] <Bilby> iptables - https://blog.bartbania.com/raspberry_pi/iptables-security-part-ii/
[21:55] <Valduare> hi all
[21:56] <Bilby> and configure IP forwarding on interfaces. http://superuser.com/questions/757016/ip-forwarding-from-one-interface-to-another-on-debian-7 not an exact fit but might be close enough.
[21:56] <Bilby> Valduare o/
[21:57] <HattCzech> i played with iptables for setting up a pptp vpn from the NAS to the rpi
[21:58] <HattCzech> so i guess i just need to play more to allow passthrough?
[21:58] <HattCzech> damn, i thought this would be a bit simpler :)
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[22:03] <Valduare> disable firewall ufw and iptables are places to look
[22:03] <Valduare> but you will have to create a route for it on the pi
[22:04] <Valduare> can use nginx on the pi to create a proxy pass
[22:04] <gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, good luck...
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[22:41] <Sonny_Jim> gordonDrogon: Works :)
[22:41] <Sonny_Jim> Note to self, an unsigned short int is not the same as a short ;)
[22:41] <Sonny_Jim> I'm just forking your repo now
[22:42] <Sonny_Jim> Next step is to wire up the mcp23017
[22:42] <Sonny_Jim> So you recon I should power that with the console 5V? The SPI connection is going to be at 3.3v, even if the chip is powered at 5v?
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[22:42] <Sonny_Jim> I printeed out the datasheet for it then promptly left it at work
[22:43] <Anitox> ugh, too much cmdline
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[22:43] <Anitox> try to type a url into chrome as: sudo gmail.com
[22:43] <mlelstv> .oO( more point and click )
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[22:53] <gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, use #include <stdint.h> and then uint16_t foo ; etc.
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, return on MISO will be at 5v )-:
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[23:31] <Marco-123> hi all. im trying to make a guitar pedal. ive got it done, just have a quick question. note that a guitar's "level" is "instrument" and not "mic" or "line". to create the thing, i've used a cheap usb sound adapter (very tiny) which takes mic in, and headphones out. question: is this device totally inappropriate for my solution?
[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> gorroth: I just followed this guide, just about to start attempting to talk to the chip: http://raspi.tv/2013/using-the-mcp23017-port-expander-with-wiringpi2-to-give-you-16-new-gpio-ports-part-3
[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> Marco-123: If it works *shrug*
[23:32] <Marco-123> will there be problems using the intrument level signal on the mic level adapter? currently its working but with tons of crackling sounds. i assumed it was because of bad config of the capturing software, but now im wondering if its clipping caused by this setup.
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[23:33] <Marco-123> Sonny_Jim: yeah i hear ya. its mostly working and its a proof of concept so im not too worried.
[23:33] <Sonny_Jim> Sounds lie clipping
[23:33] <Sonny_Jim> *like
[23:33] <Marco-123> alright. ill try using a mic and see if the crackling persists.
[23:33] <Marco-123> thanks for the kick in the arse
[23:33] <Marco-123> :D
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[23:37] <Sonny_Jim> Where does i2cdetect come from?
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[23:38] <Tenkawa> in debian i2c-tools
[23:38] <Tenkawa> not sure about raspbian/etc
[23:38] <Sonny_Jim> Got it, thanks
[23:38] <Tenkawa> no problem
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