#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-02-10

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[0:36] <exonormal> so silent?
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[0:36] <exonormal> wake up world
[0:37] <Valduare> im awake
[0:37] <exonormal> cool
[0:37] <x29a> k
[0:37] <exonormal> any new projects?
[0:37] <Valduare> not yet
[0:38] <Valduare> still got everything hooked up in the breadboard for the rgb leds heh
[0:38] <exonormal> yeah?
[0:38] <Valduare> was considering setting up an h bridge with 4 mosfets and driving his stepper motor heh
[0:38] <exonormal> did you get wires in place of those miserable staples?
[0:38] <Valduare> never had a chance to test this stepper out and no datasheets on it.
[0:39] <exonormal> ahh...
[0:39] <Valduare> ya I scrapped the staples and used some ethernet wire hah
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[0:39] <Valduare> only prob is I have 3 matching mosfets and one that is a black sheep
[0:39] <Valduare> cant remember now but I think they looked fairly similar on their datasheets
[0:39] <exonormal> good
[0:39] <Valduare> but i imagine it’d be better to have 4 matching ones for driving a stepper eh
[0:39] <exonormal> yes
[0:39] <exonormal> I agree
[0:40] <exonormal> I used a stepper driver IC chip for that
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[0:51] <anarchos2> Hi, does the original RPi have a pin with an led connected from the factory?
[0:51] <Valduare> exonormal: was just looking up another circuit for using mosfets to drive led
[0:52] <Valduare> they used resister between the gpio and the gate pin on the mosfet what does that transister do
[0:53] <exonormal> it's a switch... resistor is to keep too much current from flowing to gate.
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[0:54] <Valduare> I didnt use any resisters its working on my setup?
[0:56] <ShorTie> you can take control of the act led
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[1:26] <Valduare> exonormal: now your quiet :P
[1:26] <exonormal> uh huh
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[1:27] <exonormal> chatting with crimsomame
[1:27] <Valduare> so is it bad that I did not use resisters?
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[1:27] <exonormal> I would say so
[1:27] <exonormal> yes
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[1:28] <exonormal> you must use resistors to protect pi and components
[1:28] <TandyUK> Valduare: yes
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[1:31] <Valduare> how does it protect it?
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[1:32] <exonormal> well, say you have a water pipe, and a valve, the valve is like a resistor, it controls the flow of water.
[1:33] <exonormal> the electricity acts same way, the flow of electrons can be very high.
[1:33] <Valduare> how do i figure out how big of a resister i need
[1:33] <exonormal> you use resistors to limit the flow of electrons so it don't hurt anything
[1:34] <exonormal> well, voltage over current times resistance is the ohms law
[1:35] <exonormal> there is a lot of info on Mr. Google's database...
[1:35] <Valduare> http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/135642/FAIRCHILD/FDU8796.html
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[1:35] <pksato> resistor is more like to pipe.
[1:36] <pksato> oh.. 35A mosfet. how many led to drive?
[1:36] <Valduare> 5 meter strip
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[1:37] <Valduare> needed a mosfet and found three of these on an old motherboard
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[1:38] <pksato> not need a resistor on gate for mosfet.
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[1:39] <pksato> except if mosfet have a catastrofic damage.
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[1:40] <pksato> but, just calculate to limit short circuit current to 8mA.
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[1:41] <pksato> 470 Ohms resistor.
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[1:41] <pksato> 3.3/0.008
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[1:54] <Valduare> wonder when the next pi is due to be released lol
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[1:56] <exonormal> why? did you fry that one?
[1:56] <Valduare> no lol its working fine :P
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[1:56] <Valduare> how long has the pi2 been out now?
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[1:58] <exonormal> almost 2yrs
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[2:04] <plugwash> exonormal, no, the pi2 was released about a year ago
[2:05] <Valduare> the zero2 will be nice for sure :)
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[2:09] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
[2:09] <Valduare> hows it going
[2:10] <sir_galahad_ad> bleh
[2:10] <Valduare> the martian is at redbox now
[2:10] <Valduare> i should go get it I heard it was good
[2:11] <sir_galahad_ad> too late already own it and the book
[2:11] <sir_galahad_ad> it is
[2:11] <Valduare> that good eh?
[2:11] <sir_galahad_ad> i like it
[2:11] <sir_galahad_ad> it's not a comedy
[2:11] <Valduare> I just got a call from my mom today, CBS announced they are remaking Macgyver tv show and also shooting a movie! :)
[2:11] <sir_galahad_ad> but it won a golden globe for comedy because it is very humorous
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[2:16] <ozzzy> sir_galahad_ad, as hollywood did it it's a comedy
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[2:18] <sir_galahad_ad> :(
[2:19] * sir_galahad_ad still liked it
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[2:19] <ozzzy> it's an awesome movie
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[2:45] <exonormal> ok, plugwash
[2:45] <exonormal> sorry
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[2:48] <exonormal> cool, Valduare.... I love that show
[2:49] <exonormal> but it may not be as good, tho
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[2:49] <exonormal> I liked the Red Green show best
[2:50] <exonormal> too bad they stopped Tool Time show...
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[3:02] <Valduare> didnt tim allen get in drug trouble is why that show stopped
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[3:11] <exonormal> dunno what the story is., but it sure was a good one
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[3:11] <exonormal> prolly cud google it
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[3:17] <exonormal> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Allen
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[3:26] <exonormal> ok, good night see you all tomorrow...
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[3:27] <Valduare> gnight
[3:29] <exonormal> nite, Valduare
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[4:17] <sir_galahad_ad> i agree about the Red Green Show
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[4:33] <linuxmint> Hello, I'm testing a USB webcam to work with the Pi. Any suggestions, as Hangouts requires a plugin which I'm still figuring out.
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[5:51] <Valduare> hows it going tonight
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[6:30] <Crom> just got in my 128GB sd micro's testing first one in my phone, second will be a RPiZ
[6:31] <Valduare> how do you like your pi0
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[6:32] <Crom> loving them. I got 2
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[6:34] <Crom> waiting for a check to come it, then I'm getting the APRS radio hat for one
[6:35] <Valduare> i got one here
[6:35] <Valduare> my first pi
[6:35] <Valduare> got it on the magpi heh
[6:36] <Crom> Got a B+, and 2 piZ's
[6:37] <Crom> now to wait for a RaspberryPi with a 2 Ghz processor... something fast enough for avi's
[6:38] <Crom> 1Ghz just isn't fast enough for my avi's
[6:38] <Mead> I'm sorta disapointed with my pi Zero
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[6:39] <giddles> time for an uberpi :P
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[6:41] <Crom> once I get my laser cutter figured out for cutting plywood, I'll start making a case for a 1.8" drive, pi0, touch screen, bt, wifi, amplifier, radio interface, and lipo's for a Packet station/music/movie player
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[6:41] <Crom> GPS' are on order... SIRF III
[6:41] <Mead> I was thinking something similar but just build put a DAC hat on it and use it to play audio
[6:43] <Valduare> Crom: I use a cirago combo bluetooth/wifi dongle with my pi-0
[6:43] <Mead> got a buddy that restores vintage stereos as a hobby, so I'm just gonna do line out to a stereo I'm gonna get from him.
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[6:44] <Mead> look for a RPi clone that uses a x86 cpu soon
[6:44] <Crom> I just got 2 12w per channel amplifiers
[6:45] <Valduare> Mead: you mean a minnowboard max?
[6:46] <Crom> I use a CSR 4.0 and a EDImax N 150Mbs wifi
[6:46] <Crom> BT- keyboard, mouse
[6:47] <Mead> Valduare: is that the only one available?
[6:47] <Valduare> yep it works great
[6:47] <Valduare> Mead: ithat I have found
[6:47] <Valduare> other comment was to crom
[6:48] <Mead> sorta disapointing
[6:49] <Mead> I know it will need a low power cpu, but that Atom E3825 is really lack luster
[6:50] <Crom> woooo nice freaking board!
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[6:51] <Crom> E1-2100 AMD is my new ITX board
[6:51] <Crom> ECS KBN-I motherboard
[6:54] <Mead> I've got a Asrocks Q1900-itx (celeron j1900) based system running as a server right now
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[6:56] <Valduare> I have a few gigabyte gae350n boards with 16 gigs of ram each in my server rack
[6:57] <Crom> hmmm looks like minnowboard needs at least one more rev before I'll get it
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[6:59] <Mead> I looked at the AMD offerings, but I found saw the specs for the Celeron J1900,a quad core cpu and found a board that would use the 2x4gigs of laptop ram I had laying around already. It's been pretty solid
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[7:00] <Valduare> aye
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[7:00] <Valduare> I have an intel board that uses laptop ram with intel gigabit dual nics onboard for my pfsense box
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[7:02] <Mead> that is the only feature this board lacks, dual Nics
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[7:03] <Crom> KBN-I was $50, though the asrocks board has 4 USB3 and 4 USB2, VGA,DVI, and HDMI for video... I think that's worth the extra $25
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[7:05] <Valduare> stay away from marvel controllers
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[7:10] <Crom> damn gzip stdout: file too large on making a tar file
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[7:18] <Crom> woooo hooo my phone sees 125GB, now to throw it in a pi0
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[7:23] <Valduare> hope you dont have to deal with corruption
[7:23] <MiningInc> Crom how you get your phone to see 125GB?
[7:23] <MiningInc> Rather, What are you doing?
[7:24] <Crom> MiningInc, take a exFAT 128GB card, kill the partition. Partition it W95 Fat32 VBA and format itmkfs.vfat
[7:24] <Crom> MiningInc, take a exFAT 128GB card, kill the partition. Partition it W95 Fat32 VBA and format it mkfs.vfat
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[7:25] <MiningInc> Love .
[7:25] <MiningInc> How you figure this out?
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[7:26] <Crom> I searched google for using sdxc cards in raspberry pi. The only difference between a sdhc and sdxc card is fat32 on the sdhc and exfat on the sdxc
[7:27] <MiningInc> Interesting.
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[7:28] <MiningInc> Was probably less than 5 minutes from learning that... Thanks to you. lol. Started digging on SD tech after above comment on TLC vs MLC and etc.
[7:29] <Crom> so anything that supports 32GB sd card probably supports 128GB
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[7:32] <MiningInc> That is great to know. Thanks
[7:33] <Crom> de nada
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[7:58] <Crom> I got the 128GB cards on Amazon for like $12 each
[7:59] <Valduare> those those one’s that are hacked to fake the computer into thinking there is 128GB addressable
[7:59] <Valduare> but you’ll fill it up to 16 gigs or so and it dies horribly
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[8:00] <Crom> hmm they're 128GB SDHC cards
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[8:00] <Crom> not SDXC
[8:00] <Crom> Valduare, I'll find out
[8:00] <Valduare> :)
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[8:03] <h4x3> moin
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[10:14] <Berg> was some0one looking for a long flex cable?
[10:14] <Berg> https://www.adafruit.com/products/2144
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[10:20] <slunatecqo> Hi - I'm user of raspberry with HDD connected. I want a swap on HDD. I managed to "swapon /dev/sda2" to get swap onto drive. But when I restart, i have to do it again. Is there any persistent solution? Editing fstab didn't help...
[10:21] <ck_mfc> slunatecqo: How it didnt help?
[10:21] <slunatecqo> it didn't boot at all :-D
[10:22] <slunatecqo> had to edit it on another computer
[10:22] <ck_mfc> Did you create the swapfile correctly
[10:22] <slunatecqo> i created swap partition
[10:23] <slunatecqo> and when i'm swapping on it right now using swapon /dev..., i think it's ok :-D
[10:23] <ck_mfc> you are using raspbian right?
[10:23] <slunatecqo> arch
[10:23] <Habbie> pre-systemd you would add an entry to /etc/fstab
[10:24] <Habbie> i don't think that has changed?
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[10:24] <slunatecqo> on my desktop i use fstab (with arch)
[10:26] <ck_mfc> Hm. Strange. For me swapping is working.
[10:26] <slunatecqo> there is this way. but I hoped for something easier https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/swap#Activation_by_systemd
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[10:27] <ck_mfc> What did you exactly write into your fstab file?
[10:27] <ck_mfc> the hard drive and the swapfile ?
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[10:29] <slunatecqo> The line was /dev/sda2 none swap defaults 0 0
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[10:35] <ck_mfc> hm. maybe try using a swap file on the hard drive
[10:36] <slunatecqo> hmm ok :-/
[10:36] <ck_mfc> ah nevermind. dunno if it solve the problem
[10:36] <slunatecqo> and the line in fstab is OK? what is yours:
[10:37] <ck_mfc> yes have to be correct. mine is
[10:37] <ck_mfc> /mnt/sda2/swap.file none swap defaults 0 0
[10:38] <ck_mfc> try this procedure:
[10:38] <ck_mfc> dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/sda2/swap.file bs=1M count=1024 (for 1GB swap)
[10:38] <ck_mfc> chmod 600 /mnt/sda2/swap.file
[10:38] <ck_mfc> mkswap /mnt/sda2/swap.file
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[10:38] <ck_mfc> swapon /mnt/sda2/swap.file
[10:38] <slunatecqo> but i already have swap. I'm just not able to mount it using fstab
[10:39] <ck_mfc> anything useful in the log messages?
[10:39] <ck_mfc> what does happen when you do mount -a
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[10:40] <slunatecqo> ill try
[10:42] <slunatecqo> nothing - probably everything is ok
[10:42] <slunatecqo> well - the partition is already mounted by swapon
[10:43] <ck_mfc> what do free -m give out?
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[10:43] <slunatecqo> Swap: 8190 2 8188
[10:43] <slunatecqo> it is swapping
[10:43] <ck_mfc> lol
[10:43] <slunatecqo> it just doesn't mount when i reboot
[10:44] <ck_mfc> aaah okay
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[10:49] <ck_mfc> what errors did you get while mounting?
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[10:50] <slunatecqo> the server didn't boot, so I couldn't connect ssh. When i commented fstab line and mounted, in dmesg were only ok mount info
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[11:22] <aZz7eCh> by chance, any of you know of zero's with the gpio pins, already installed ?
[11:22] <ShorTie> no soldering iron ??
[11:23] <aZz7eCh> yes, and sick fat solder ... but ... i aint exactly delicate at shit that small
[11:23] <aZz7eCh> excuse the french
[11:24] <aZz7eCh> kinda hoping there might have been a supplier shipping with installed already
[11:25] <ShorTie> adafruit might
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[11:27] <aZz7eCh> yep i already tried there :P
[11:29] <shauno> I haven't seen anyone doing that yet. I guess there hasn't been much need to, since they fly out of inventory as it is
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[11:30] <ShorTie> or that someone there would have to sit and solder them on, trying to wave solder the board again might mess it up
[11:31] <aZz7eCh> like i will lol
[11:31] <aZz7eCh> i cant imagine doing that many pins and NOT crossing them
[11:31] <shauno> yeah. it's a lot of work, when just supplying all the needed dongles works pretty well as a value-add so far (or even just having stock in the first place)
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[13:05] <Drzacek> Hi. Can you recommend a small distro for RPi? I have 2gb sd card and want to try it, while I wait for my 16gb sd
[13:06] <TandyUK> Drzacek: debian
[13:06] <Habbie> raspbian lite is pretty small, right
[13:06] <TandyUK> or rather raspbian i think its called
[13:06] <Drzacek> with gui?
[13:06] <TandyUK> gui will put the size up
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[13:06] <TandyUK> but 2gb should be enough, it really depends how you partition it
[13:06] <Drzacek> I was thinking something like DSL, but it is discontinued from what I know
[13:07] <Habbie> note that you can remove things after the first boot
[13:07] <Habbie> you can also look into putting some things on usb
[13:08] <TandyUK> I have a debian vm here (no gui) which is using 950Mb of disk space, plus whatever its swap partition is
[13:08] <Drzacek> swap on flash storage? crazy!
[13:08] <TandyUK> you can probably do without swap completely
[13:08] <TandyUK> i did say VM
[13:09] <Drzacek> oh sorry
[13:09] <Drzacek> I run my other linuxes without swap, no issues there
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[13:09] <TandyUK> I always give my linux boxes _some_ swap
[13:09] <TandyUK> even if its only 50mb, it stops a OOM kernel panic
[13:10] <Habbie> swap improves stability and sometimes even performance
[13:10] <Drzacek> yeah, but I only have ssd disk
[13:10] <Habbie> so?
[13:10] <TandyUK> doesnt matter, you can still give it some swap
[13:10] <Drzacek> isn't swap killing it?
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[13:10] <TandyUK> it'll probably spend 99.9% of its life empty anyway
[13:11] <Habbie> we're not saying you should swap heavily
[13:11] <Habbie> we're saying you should allocate some swap
[13:11] <Habbie> if that causes heavy swapping you already had trouble
[13:11] <Habbie> just a different kind
[13:11] <Drzacek> I'll think I'll stick with swapless setup, since I don't have any problems (hope it stays this way)
[13:11] <Habbie> if you're happy, don't change things :)
[13:12] <TandyUK> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/swap-partition/
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[13:12] <DWKnight> if you're only coming close to max ram use because of disk cache, swap isn't as important on linux
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[13:13] <Habbie> DWKnight, also correct
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[13:14] <mlelstv> swap isn't as important because linux will overcommit memory anyway :)
[13:15] <Drzacek> anyway....you say raspbian will fit?
[13:15] <Habbie> mlelstv, that's exactly why it's important
[13:16] <Habbie> Drzacek, raspbian jessie lite fits on 2GB, yes
[13:16] <Drzacek> thanks
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[13:18] <Drzacek> lite has some gui?
[13:18] <Habbie> not by default, but you can apt-get exactly what you want
[13:18] <Habbie> as long as it fits
[13:19] <TandyUK> or once you are up and running, copy /usr onto a usb sitck, and edit fstab
[13:19] <TandyUK> not ideal, but will give you more space to play with
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[13:24] <Drzacek> could be tricky, no internet on my Pi yet
[13:24] <Habbie> why not?
[13:24] <Drzacek> pi zero, no ethernet/wifi adapter
[13:24] <Habbie> ah
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[13:28] <CyL> Are the RasPi B+ GPIO pins 5V tolerant?
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[13:28] <ShorTie> No
[13:28] <CyL> I can't find any source of documentation on that respect
[13:29] <Tenkawa> Drzacek: first thing I did when I got my pi zero was attach a broadcom 2 port usb hub + wifi adapter
[13:29] <Tenkawa> hi all
[13:29] <CyL> I mean, I couldn't find the pin internal schematic
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[13:29] <Drzacek> Tenkawa, don't have any
[13:29] <Tenkawa> that hub made things so much easier
[13:29] <CyL> Is there something like that out there?
[13:30] <Drzacek> well, maybe some day
[13:30] <Tenkawa> Drzacek: yeah I found it by accident at my local microcenter
[13:31] <Drzacek> no microcenter in germany, only very expensive conrad
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[13:31] <Tenkawa> ah
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[14:01] <mgottschlag> hm, does the rpi v2 support kvm?
[14:02] <mgottschlag> and, even if it doesn't, anybody knows whether there are defconfigs/devicetrees somewhere for kvm with virtio? :)
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[14:06] <mrtn_> are there any plans for a new RPi version with GBit ethernet?
[14:07] <BurtyB> ask an 8ball :/
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[14:08] <dewp> hey guys. i'm using an adxl345 which is not installed totally even so the values are not 0, 9.8065, 0 but something different. is it a good practice now to substract the most recent sample with the one before to fake-calibrate it?
[14:09] <dewp> and, for curiosity, they are 0.2, 10.4 and -2.1 - shouldnt be the sum of all exactly ~9.81
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[14:10] <AnonRecluse13> would you guys buy an android tv box?
[14:10] <AnonRecluse13> or just make one with a pi?
[14:11] <dewp> post this question in #android as well
[14:11] <dewp> ;)
[14:11] <AnonRecluse13> im an avid slackware user and i don't really like android for what it did to open source and linux
[14:11] <AnonRecluse13> lol dewp
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[14:23] <daey> AnonRecluse13: the application store always makes me sad... all those ported opensource programs filled with ads and pay2use content... ewww
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[14:25] <mgottschlag> dewp: the vector length should be 9.81
[14:26] <mgottschlag> so, sqrt(a^2+b^2+c^2)
[14:26] <mgottschlag> and it's pretty common that they are not soldered at exactly 90 degrees to the pcb
[14:26] <dewp> ahhh, sure, good point!
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[14:27] <dewp> and regarding my idea for "calibration" - is this ok?
[14:27] <AnonRecluse13> daey, yeah, devs sold out i guess :(
[14:28] <AnonRecluse13> i think i'll stick with the Pi2 and my Panasonic VIERA for now.
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[14:28] <AnonRecluse13> i think OSMC/Kodi on the Pi2 would be better suited to what i would like.
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[14:29] <AnonRecluse13> when more 4K content becomes available, hopefully by then there will be a Pi3 with 4K support :) and Gigabit Ethernet
[14:30] <AnonRecluse13> oh, and usb x4 3.0
[14:30] <AnonRecluse13> x 4 usb 3.0*
[14:30] <AnonRecluse13> sorry
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[14:30] <DWKnight> getting an SoC that supports usb 3.0 might be cost prohibitive though
[14:31] <DWKnight> which would probably exclude gigabit ethernet as well
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[14:31] <AnonRecluse13> DWKnight, will the Pi eventually support 4K?
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[14:32] <AnonRecluse13> im happy if it did, with usb 2.0 and 10/100 ethernet
[14:32] <DWKnight> potentially
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[14:33] <AnonRecluse13> its not powerful enough to playback a 4K 2160p file now though is it?
[14:33] <DWKnight> I know that "watchable" bitrates of 4k content will still fit over 100mbit
[14:33] <DWKnight> I think the pi2 could do 2160p30
[14:33] <mgottschlag> dewp: you certainly need to correct the orientation
[14:34] <DWKnight> in theory anyway, don't have an openelec install with 2160p30 content to test
[14:34] <mgottschlag> and it might have an offset as well
[14:34] <AnonRecluse13> so you think i could watch a 20 - 25gb 4K 2160p mkv file from the pi no problems?
[14:34] <AnonRecluse13> even on my current smart tv?
[14:34] <mgottschlag> so check the vector length in multiple orientations (you can in theory automate that), the vectors should be on a sphere, and the center of the sphere is your offset which you need to subtract from all readings
[14:35] <DWKnight> it's worth trying if nothing else
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[14:35] <AnonRecluse13> my tv is LED-LCD, i dont think its UHD
[14:35] <AnonRecluse13> :(
[14:35] <AnonRecluse13> would the pi2 make 4K content worth it on a 55" panasonic LED-LCD
[14:35] <mgottschlag> dewp: that's a common problem for magnetometers, because the readings are much more sensitive to surrounding electronics, so you'll find lots of resources on that
[14:36] <DWKnight> not sure, again you'd have to try it
[14:36] <AnonRecluse13> through HDMI cec
[14:36] <DWKnight> and if your tv doesn't support 4k, it would probably downscale
[14:36] <AnonRecluse13> i will give it a whirl
[14:36] <AnonRecluse13> what would it downscale to? 1080p?
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[14:37] <DWKnight> whatever your TV supports probably
[14:37] <dewp> hmmm ... vector result is 1.08! that's weird
[14:37] <mgottschlag> dewp: and the math behind the orientation calibration would be to calculate a base conversion matrix
[14:37] <mgottschlag> yeah, it might have an offset, turn it around, 180 degrees, and try again
[14:38] <mgottschlag> if it will be 8.something, then that's the problem
[14:38] <ScrumpyJack> what are the math required to cycle through the 255x255x255 rgb values to that they go from violet to red?
[14:38] <ScrumpyJack> s/to/so
[14:38] <mgottschlag> ScrumpyJack: you want compute everyting in HSV color space, and just change the hue
[14:38] <dewp> ah oh i see
[14:38] <mgottschlag> and only convert the *result* to RGB
[14:38] <dewp> so basically i need to turn this around and see when it's 1.00 and then calculate the offset
[14:39] <mgottschlag> although, violet to red should be simple, just decrease the blue value from 255 to 0
[14:39] <Sonny_Jim> Has anyone in here got a K150 PIC programmer and Linux/RPi? Just wondering if picpro.py is any good
[14:39] <daey> what would happen if you ramp lineary through the values from violet(RGB) to red(rgb)?
[14:39] <ScrumpyJack> mgottschlag: violet to red via the rest of the spectrum
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[14:39] <mgottschlag> then HSV, it's a number of linear ramps
[14:40] <ScrumpyJack> i think the unicornhat python lib only supports RGB
[14:41] <mgottschlag> you need to convert from HSV to RGB yourself
[14:41] <mgottschlag> the formula is on wikipedia
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[14:43] <ScrumpyJack> i'm not sure i grasp how computing it in HSV is simpler than RGB :(
[14:43] <dewp> mgottschlag, thanks four your input!
[14:44] <ScrumpyJack> ah ok, got it
[14:44] <ScrumpyJack> so I use constants for S and V and just cycle H?
[14:44] <ScrumpyJack> erm S and L
[14:45] <ScrumpyJack> will that give me a smooth enought transition between color sets?
[14:46] <mgottschlag> yes
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[14:46] <mgottschlag> and the back-conversion is just one large switch-case with linear ramps in each part
[14:46] <mgottschlag> the conversion to RGB
[14:47] <mgottschlag> you can also implement everything in RGB
[14:47] <mgottschlag> just implement all those ramps one after the other
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[14:47] <ScrumpyJack> looping hue +1 is going to be smooth enough?
[14:47] <mgottschlag> yes
[14:47] <ScrumpyJack> neat
[14:47] <mgottschlag> ... if your values are between 0 and 255
[14:48] <ScrumpyJack> why? hue can be higher right?
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[14:50] <mgottschlag> ScrumpyJack: in man cases, HSV is used with floating point values between 0 and 1
[14:50] <mgottschlag> it can be used with 0..255 as well, or you can use arbitrary precision
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[14:52] <driftwood> hi all
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[14:53] <ScrumpyJack> right https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSL_and_HSV#From_HSL
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[14:53] <ScrumpyJack> that looks too much for my brain :)
[14:54] <driftwood> hello IT_Sean
[14:54] <IT_Sean> Greetings, earthling.
[14:55] <driftwood> :)
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[14:56] <ScrumpyJack> mgottschlag: like this? http://code.activestate.com/recipes/576919-python-rgb-and-hsv-conversion/
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[14:57] <ScrumpyJack> lol, import colorsys :)
[14:57] <ScrumpyJack> job done :)
[14:58] <ScrumpyJack> man, python really takes the fun out of it
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[15:54] <CyL> So, is there any sort of documentation on the RasPi B+ GPIO pins, so we can tell how it is safe to interface with them?
[15:55] <Anitox> http://raspi.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Raspberry-Pi-GPIO-pinouts.png
[15:55] <Anitox> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/usage/gpio-plus-and-raspi2/
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[15:56] <CyL> The pinout is all the documentation we got?
[15:56] <Anitox> does that other link help any?
[15:57] <IT_Sean> Mayhaps if you told us what you were looking for, specifically, instead of just asking for "documentation"
[15:58] <CyL> I had already got to that second link, but thanks for your kindness. I was willing a more technical description, if the pins are pullep up/down, if we are able to (de)activate said pull resistors, if they can be put on a HiZ state, if there are clamping diodes, if they are open ended, buffered, this sort of thing...
[15:59] <methuzla> http://elinux.org/RPi_Hardware
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[16:00] <methuzla> http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals
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[16:02] <Bilby> elinux.org is pretty much the go-to for that kind of detail, CyL
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[16:02] <CyL> methuzla, Bilby: thanks
[16:03] <Anitox> tripped over my power cable last night and my rpi smacked the ground and came unplugged. now the sd card doesnt work at all :(
[16:03] <Bilby> :O
[16:03] <Tenkawa> Anitox: did you try fsck'ing the filesystems on another box?
[16:03] <Bilby> card or holder damaged?
[16:03] <Anitox> card isnt even registering on my laptop now
[16:03] <Tenkawa> Bilby: how about the outside eh?
[16:03] <Tenkawa> Anitox: ouch
[16:04] <Anitox> it's tragic
[16:04] <Anitox> i just spent the last few days getting everything installed and setup
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[16:04] <Tenkawa> Bilby: go figure microcenter is showing pi zero's in stock now
[16:04] <Bilby> Tenkawa: hah! Go go go
[16:04] <Bilby> I might run out at lunch if they still show available
[16:05] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[16:05] <Bilby> & you could always do the buy online pick up in store, too
[16:05] <Tenkawa> nope
[16:05] <Tenkawa> its blocked
[16:05] <Bilby> traffic was so slow this morning I stopped and had waffles :P
[16:05] <Tenkawa> at least for me
[16:05] <Anitox> sounds like i need to go to microcenter during lunch
[16:05] <Tenkawa> i wonder if its because I'm hitting the mobile only site
[16:05] <Tenkawa> let me look
[16:05] <Anitox> blocked for me
[16:06] <Anitox> says Find online. Buy in store.
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[16:06] <Tenkawa> yeah same here
[16:06] <Tenkawa> 10+ in stock roo
[16:06] <Bilby> yep, in-store only
[16:06] <Tenkawa> er too
[16:06] <Bilby> hmm
[16:06] <Bilby> i’ll be going out at lunch
[16:06] <Anitox> ugh, 30 min drive to get there
[16:07] <CyL> AVAILABLE FOR IN-STORE PICKUP ONLY
[16:07] <Bilby> it’s probably 20 minutes for me depending on traffic
[16:07] <CyL> It shows as available to me too
[16:07] <CyL> Unfortunatelly I live in Brazil
[16:07] <Bilby> it must be microcenter’s week… mark it on the calendar folks
[16:07] <Bilby> lol
[16:07] <Tenkawa> Bilby: you know the way it is around here traffic could be 3x that
[16:07] * Bilby should do a black market in Pi Zeros since he lives in the home city of microcenter
[16:08] <Bilby> of course because i’m a nice fellow i couldn’t charge more than retail xD
[16:08] <Tenkawa> I just want a few more to go with my pi2's and olimex boxes
[16:08] <Tenkawa> I'm pretty much only running arm now when I can
[16:08] <Bilby> I want one to assuage the terrible sense of loss I had after giving mine away <_<
[16:09] <CyL> Does the Zero run Win IoT?
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[16:11] <Anitox> woh, it just popped up saying the disk i inserted was not readable
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[16:11] <Anitox> only took like 15 minutes
[16:11] <DWKnight> damn
[16:11] <Bilby> Anitox maybe it shorted somehow and corrupted the card
[16:11] <Anitox> that's my guess
[16:11] <Anitox> thinks it's a 1.07gb apple sd card
[16:12] <Bilby> lol where did that even come from?
[16:12] <Anitox> i dunno, but it took like 15 minutes after i plugged it in to show this
[16:13] <Anitox> i'll try formatting, cause why not
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[16:17] <Anitox> it's taking a big shit
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[16:19] <Bilby> haha, unsurprising
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[16:20] <Anitox> amazon prime now is gonna bring me some new ones in a couple hours
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[16:24] <DWKnight> good thing that even microsd cards are inexpensive
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[16:27] <IT_Sean> Anitox: please review the channel language policy. The link to the rules is in the topic.
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[16:27] <Anitox> My apologies
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[16:28] <Anitox> Hopefully it won't get excessive :D
[16:28] <Anitox> I jest
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[16:57] <DWKnight> I think a switch like the cisco small business SF200-24 or similar would do good with a pi cluster
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[17:06] <t3chguy> CyL: It does not
[17:07] <CyL> t3chguy: You're refering to the Win IoT on the Zero?
[17:07] <t3chguy> Correct CyL
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[17:07] <CyL> t3chguy: Okay, thanks
[17:07] <t3chguy> it doesn't look as though anyone answered you
[17:07] <t3chguy> I believe its due to the architecture difference
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[17:07] <t3chguy> Zero has the same architecture as the B+ etc
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[17:08] <CyL> t3chguy: Maybe it's more related to the speed / memory difference, since I believe the binaries can be made compatible with both models?
[17:09] <t3chguy> that doesn't mean that Microsoft have released a version compatible with armv6
[17:10] <CyL> t3chguy: I understand, but since you mentioned architecture difference, I was thinking that maybe that what's behind MS decision
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[17:10] <CyL> t3chguy: Not any fancy instruction set difference
[17:10] <t3chguy> possibly, who knows why MS chooses to do something
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[17:11] <ali1234> no mainstream developer supports ARMv6 any more
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[17:11] <ali1234> android doesn't, microsoft doesn't, ubuntu doesn't
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[17:12] <Bilby> If i remember correctly Windows IoT for Arm was around before the Pi2, so it was a fairly direct port
[17:12] <ali1234> right
[17:12] <ali1234> right. it was around but couldn't run on the original pi due to ARMv6. just like android and ubuntu
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[17:25] <CyL> I read a while back on a blog post on the main website that they would release full specs of the soc for people interrest in contributing their own fimrware. Did that ever happenned?
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[17:25] <CyL> *interested
[17:25] <ali1234> no
[17:25] <CyL> a lie afterall?
[17:26] <CyL> or something changed midway?
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[17:28] <mgottschlag> I don't think they ever said they would release full specs
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[17:29] <Bilby> Isn’t the SoC a standard component?/
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[17:30] <ali1234> yeah they have certainly never said anything about releasing full specs
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[17:30] <shauno> I'd be surprised if they said that. it's not theirs to release, it's broadcom's.
[17:30] <ali1234> other than "we won't do it" and "you wouldn't understand them anyway"
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[17:31] <IT_Sean> The only way to get the 'full spec' would be to work for Broadcom and sign a mahoosive pile of NDAs.
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[17:37] <CyL> Maybe I misunderstood something
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[17:37] <CyL> Was there anything at all related to releasing the specs so people could write their own firmware?
[17:38] <ali1234> no
[17:38] <Bilby> I know you can program the pi bare-metal, but you still need a basic bootloader to initialize the SoC
[17:38] <ali1234> the only information about the firmware has been found through reverse engineering efforts
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[17:40] <mgottschlag> CyL: broadcom hired a developer whose task is to build a free GPU driver, so broadcom actually releases some information, but nothing about the boot process or other parts of the system
[17:41] <CyL> mgottschlag: thanks
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[18:09] <Bilby> Tenkawa: Zero is still showing in stock… i’m going for it :P
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[18:30] <THErealDriftwood> ...
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[18:36] <TheSin> anyone try this new https://geppetto.gumstix.com/ service for making RPi Compute module boards yet?
[18:36] <TheSin> I'd like to hear some reviews before I try it
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[18:47] <Mead> I am interested in ordering a DAC module for my pi, anyone have experince with using any specific model?
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[18:51] <ikonia> do any of you have any experience positive/negative using a raspberry pi (any model) as a pki host ?
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[18:56] <Bilby> Mead: just digital-analog, or audio?
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[18:56] <Bilby> TheSin: Haven’t heard of it, maybe email and see if you can try it for free or something?
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[19:21] <ScrumpyJack> evening
[19:22] <IT_Sean> Afternoon, actually.
[19:22] <ScrumpyJack> so i'm loosely trying to cycle through the spectrum, but I'm not sure i've got this right
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[19:22] <ScrumpyJack> st.ilet.to/hue.py
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[19:23] <TheSin> Bilby, anyone can use it for free, but to build the boards it's a one time 2k setup and then depends on the board but components but like $20 a board or whatevs
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[19:23] <TheSin> Bilby, just wanted to know if there compute module setup was well designed is all, I really need to have some built soonish, though i keep praying for a Pi2 Compute module to get made ;)
[19:23] <ScrumpyJack> fixed saturation and value, hue incremented in a loop, then conversion to RGB
[19:24] <Bilby> Ah
[19:25] <ScrumpyJack> values are float when they come out of the convertion, is float*255 enough to convert to RGB?
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[19:25] <ScrumpyJack> well, int(float*255)
[19:26] <methuzla> that will simply do the multiplication and convert result to an integer
[19:27] <ScrumpyJack> yeah, isn't that enough to convert float to decimal for RGB?
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[19:28] <ScrumpyJack> (since 0-255 in RGB colour, between 0 and 1 in float)
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[19:29] <methuzla> should, yes
[19:31] <ScrumpyJack> output of the script says otherwise :(
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[19:32] <methuzla> pastebin output
[19:33] <ScrumpyJack> sprunge.us/ScfI
[19:34] <ScrumpyJack> script is here -> st.ilet.to/hue.py
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[19:34] <ScrumpyJack> I want to use that to set a unicorn hat on an RPi A+ :)
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[19:35] <methuzla> what output were you expecting?
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[19:36] <FatalNIX> whew
[19:36] <FatalNIX> so I got qemu compiled with raspberry pi support
[19:36] <FatalNIX> :D
[19:36] <ScrumpyJack> vales spanning 0 to 255 for RGB, to 80 to 90 :)
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[19:36] <Tenkawa> FatalNIX: hows it run?
[19:36] <FatalNIX> I actually managed to figure out why my raspberry pis were all becoming destroyed
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[19:36] <FatalNIX> Tenkawa, it's a little slow, but I'm not running raspbian
[19:37] <FatalNIX> I'm using it for assembly
[19:37] <Tenkawa> FatalNIX: hows it run?/
[19:37] <Tenkawa> oops
[19:37] <FatalNIX> OL
[19:37] <FatalNIX> lol*
[19:37] <Tenkawa> which guest os?
[19:37] <FatalNIX> nothing
[19:38] <FatalNIX> I'm running straight binary files into qemu I compiled / assembled
[19:38] <methuzla> ScrumpyJack do you mean you want R=0 to 255, G=0 to 255, B=0 to 255 ?
[19:38] <Tenkawa> ahhh binary emu
[19:38] <methuzla> ScrumpyJack like rotate through the rainbow?
[19:38] <Tenkawa> ugggh so much snow
[19:38] <ScrumpyJack> methuzla: that's what i'd expect from a fixed saturation and value, and a hue going from 0 to 360
[19:39] <methuzla> your hue goes from 0 to 1
[19:40] <ScrumpyJack> in steps of 0.01, with 0 being 0 and 1 being 360. <- this might be the silly assumption
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[19:41] <methuzla> i don't know the HSV colorspace, but your code will vary h from 0 to 1 in 0.01 increments
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[19:44] <FatalNIX> Tenkawa, Yep! I am writing a FORTH interpreter in assembly on the pi which uses the Serial port for IO
[19:45] <FatalNIX> for at least standard IO
[19:45] <Tenkawa> nice
[19:45] <ScrumpyJack> me neither, but it seems easier to cycle through than RGB, all you need to increment is hue
[19:45] <FatalNIX> then, we throw this pi up into a weather balloon, and you'll be bale to pull temperatures from I^C, etc
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[19:45] <FatalNIX> or record data onto a custom tiny filesystem on the SD card
[19:46] <ScrumpyJack> then convert HSV to RGB to set a LED
[19:46] <Tenkawa> FatalNIX: i used forth on intergraph hardware ages ago
[19:46] <ScrumpyJack> but the colorsys lib wants values in float
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[19:46] <FatalNIX> Yep. I chose to do it this way because it is dead simple to implement FORTH on your own
[19:46] <Tenkawa> i wonder how cobol would run
[19:47] <kisak> I have a rpi2 with openelec 5 and osmc, over time (and the corresponding updates) the render path kodi uses has progressively rejected more streams from twitch over time. It's now reached the point where all 1920x1080 streams will render black. All this on osmc, openelec 5 does not substantially update itself. Anyone else heard of simular? osmc is mostly debian jessie, and I can get 1920x1080 streams fr
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[19:47] <FatalNIX> And fo rit's implementation difficulty it's quite powerful
[19:47] <kisak> om other sources to render.
[19:48] <kisak> the same h264 streams that fail with osmc work fine on openelec 5
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[19:52] <jrcharney> If installed something from source, and then later found out that a software had its own .list file you could add to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, how do I uninstall that software that was installed from source?
[19:53] <jrcharney> or will that .list file install it into /usr/local/ instead of /usr/?
[19:54] <methuzla> ScrumpyJack try this: http://pastie.org/10716778
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[19:56] <ScrumpyJack> yeah, that was my first conversion, but someone here suggested i use hsv :)
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[19:57] <methuzla> why wasn't colorsys.hls_to_rgb() working?
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[20:01] <methuzla> ScrumpyJack where did you come up with the values s=0.196 and v=0.392 ?
[20:02] <methuzla> ScrumpyJack try your original code with s=1 and v=1
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[20:02] <ScrumpyJack> 1/255 and 0.5/255
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[20:03] <ScrumpyJack> arg, i've changed editor (geany to vi) and now nothing works when execing the code
[20:03] <ScrumpyJack> is it a tabs thing?
[20:03] <methuzla> probably
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[20:04] <methuzla> :%s\<CTRL-V><TAB>\\g
[20:04] <gordonDrogon> imagine using programming language where tabs and spaces don't work interchangably ...
[20:04] <methuzla> such is python
[20:04] <gordonDrogon> me hides.
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[20:06] <methuzla> yep. indentation for scope resolution. takes some serious getting used to. esp. coming from curly bracket code land.
[20:06] <ScrumpyJack> syntax error on print!
[20:06] <ScrumpyJack> indeed
[20:07] <methuzla> ScrumpyJack i think you simply want s=0.5 and v=1
[20:07] <methuzla> ScrumpyJack no need to divide by 255
[20:07] <ScrumpyJack> kk
[20:07] <gordonDrogon> I did do some coding in occam once. that has indent sensitivity which means something quite different ...
[20:08] <methuzla> ScrumpyJack and i gotta go, good luck
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[20:08] <ScrumpyJack> i can't handle the tab thing right now
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[20:08] <methuzla> try vi macro above to replace tabs
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[20:08] <methuzla> and don't use tabs, use white space
[20:09] <methuzla> except maybe use / instead \
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[20:10] <ScrumpyJack> i joined it all up on one line and put CRs in so that vim would autoindent
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[20:10] <ScrumpyJack> how naive
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[20:12] <ScrumpyJack> syntax error at print(a, b) ? really?
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[20:23] <onodera> Hi, I'm using my raspberry as an http server using nginx, and I wanted to know if there are any raspberry specific nginx.conf changes I can make
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[20:23] <onodera> as in optimizations
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[20:55] <itsgremlin> hi, when I try to set up my pi zero with a 16 GB card I see this /dev/root 3.7G 3.4G 105M 98% / for space usage.
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[20:55] <Bilby> using raspibian?
[20:55] <itsgremlin> I don’t understand why the root partition is only 3.7 GB, I format my card using disk util
[20:55] <itsgremlin> yeah
[20:56] <itsgremlin> raspbian
[20:56] <DWKnight> did you use the utility to resize the partition or no?
[20:56] <Bilby> did you run raspi-config and expand file system yet?
[20:56] <itsgremlin> no I did not
[20:56] <DWKnight> chop chop
[20:56] <itsgremlin> to the second question
[20:56] <itsgremlin> ok
[20:56] <itsgremlin> I’ll go do that
[20:56] <itsgremlin> thanks
[20:58] <itsgremlin> I didn’t read to the end of the tutorial
[20:58] <Bilby> ^_^
[20:58] <itsgremlin> :P
[20:59] <itsgremlin> thanks, it works now of course
[20:59] <itsgremlin> :D
[21:01] <Bilby> \o/
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[21:02] <Anitox> huzzah! my pi is alive again
[21:02] <ScrumpyJack> hmm, how does unicorn.set_pixels work?
[21:03] <ScrumpyJack> docs say set_pixels(pixels)
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[21:03] <Tenkawa> Anitox: what was the fix?
[21:04] <ScrumpyJack> should set_pixels([[0]8]8) set the 64 pixels on the unicornhat?
[21:04] <Anitox> Tenkawa, had to get a new SD card...
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[21:04] <Anitox> now i get to reinstall everything
[21:04] <itsgremlin> thanks for the help, I’m off
[21:04] <Tenkawa> ahh
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[21:05] <DWKnight> Anitox: so you murdered the sd card and not the pi board
[21:05] <DWKnight> handy
[21:05] <TrekBike> Is 3.472V on the RPi GPIO pins OK?
[21:05] <Anitox> yeah, the board seems fine
[21:05] <TrekBike> Or is that too far out of spec?
[21:05] <ScrumpyJack> and if so, how do you set the RGB of all 64 pixels in one go?
[21:07] <Habbie> TrekBike, no idea, all i can tell you is that i measured closer to 3.3 on mine
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[21:08] <TrekBike> The ultrasonic sensor I have outputs 5V, so I need to use a voltage divider to get it down to 3.3ish. I figure 2 220Ohm resistors in series with a 1kOhm resister will get me to 3.47 volts
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[21:09] <TrekBike> 1 500 ohm resister would be better as it would get it to 3.33 volts
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[21:15] * Bilby did not go out at lunch to buy a Pi Zero :(
[21:15] <Bilby> weather is cr-appy
[21:15] <Bilby> i might do it on the way home if traffic isn’t insane
[21:15] <BurtyB> TrekBike, why not just divide it in half to be on the safe side?
[21:16] <Tenkawa> isnt it though?
[21:16] <deww> Bilby: where do you live where there are local stores with it in stock?
[21:16] <Tenkawa> its so blah
[21:16] <deww> oh would you look at that microcenter has them in stock
[21:16] <Bilby> Columbus OH, where microcenter is based :D
[21:17] <Bilby> but i’m pretty sure they’re scheduling releases just like pi foundation is
[21:17] <TrekBike> Will 2.5V be read as a 1 with the GPIO libraries?
[21:17] <deww> Bilby: yeah i see my local one has them in stock again. i'm not gonna be greedy. i already got two and gave one to a friend.
[21:17] <Tenkawa> i thought the snow was tapering off..sure doesnt look that way out the window though
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[21:17] <Bilby> it’s been spitting all day
[21:17] <Bilby> I lost my camera feed :(
[21:17] <Tenkawa> yep
[21:17] <TrekBike> Bilby: What kind of camera feed?
[21:18] <Bilby> deww: i got a free one with the preorder and gave it to a friend as a bday gift
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[21:18] <Bilby> I stuck it in my wallet and made a show of “losing it” in my pockets haha
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[21:18] <deww> haha nice
[21:18] <Bilby> TrekBike: PoE IP surveillance cameras
[21:18] <ScrumpyJack> does anyone from pimoroni hang out here?
[21:18] <TrekBike> Ahh, yes I have a few of those. Do you use ZoneMinder?
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[21:18] <Bilby> software was going OM NOM NOM on my server’s RAM so i had to shut it down
[21:18] <Tenkawa> afk again
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[21:19] <TrekBike> I've got a AMD E-450 system with 4GB of RAM. ZoneMinder uses a lot of ram processing the video feeds, specifically the motion processing
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[21:21] <Bilby> Hmm, that might be it
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[21:21] <Bilby> i’m using Surveillance Station from Synolgoy which has generally been good, but i was using server-side motion detection because the camera-side didn’t seem to be working properly
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[21:22] <Bilby> it’s just stop-gap anyway, the original box that was installed had a PSU failure and was ancient anyhow
[21:22] <TrekBike> I know with the DLink cameras, the motion detection on the cameras misses a lot since once it captures the video clip it has to wait about 15 seconds to reset.
[21:23] <Habbie> TrekBike, fwiw i ordered a bunch of optocouplers to stop me from worrying about these things at all
[21:23] <Habbie> TrekBike, probably overdoing it
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[21:23] <Bilby> I had like a 2 month debate with my business partner - analog cameras vs PoE - and that’s one of the things that analog does very, very well (mostly because all of the processing is done on the DVR)
[21:24] <Bilby> oh, and yes 2.5V should be a logical 1
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[21:24] <Bilby> the threshhold is usally .5 Vmax or ~ 1.6V
[21:24] <TrekBike> So 200 and 220 ohm resisters will give me 2.62V
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[21:55] <ScrumpyJack> anyone use vim to write python? how do you handle tabs?
[21:55] <ScrumpyJack> tabs are converted to spaces by vim
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[22:06] <Bilby> ScrumpyJack: sorry, i typically write in a gui environment or with nano
[22:06] <Bilby> though lots of people use vim so i’m sure there’s a solution
[22:06] <traeak> tabs raen't converted to spaces by vim
[22:06] <Bilby> straight from the python’s mouth, even: https://wiki.python.org/moin/Vim
[22:06] <traeak> something happened and the configuration got messed up :-p
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[22:07] <Bilby> every time i’ve tried to use VI has ended in tragedy for me xD
[22:07] <traeak> can't say honestly :-p
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[22:08] <traeak> i'm old enough that we didn't have syntax highlighting yet on our old 'vi'
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[22:08] <traeak> then moved over to running 'elvis'
[22:09] <traeak> still run elvis on some machines, but i think vim's problems have been mostly ironed out
[22:10] <ScrumpyJack> i've just stuck to space indentation and i'm ok now
[22:11] <traeak> old old days we used spaces
[22:11] <traeak> tabstops are configurable
[22:12] <ScrumpyJack> sure, all is configurable. my first tab is a tab, my next tabs are converted to spaces. those settings don't work for python
[22:13] <Valduare> man there sure are a ton of kits for arduino heh
[22:17] <traeak> hehe
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[22:19] <ScrumpyJack> there's got to be a better way to set all 64 pixels on the unicorn hat that this -> http://st.ilet.to/hue.py
[22:19] <mlelstv> better ?
[22:20] <ScrumpyJack> more efficient
[22:21] <ScrumpyJack> setting them all takes about half a second
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[22:21] <mlelstv> hmm
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[22:21] <ScrumpyJack> i see in the unicornhat python library def set_pixels, which does the same
[22:22] <mlelstv> the show call seems to be done for every pixel
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[22:22] <mlelstv> is that what you want?
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[22:23] <Bilby> traeak: the first machine i used vi on was a sparcstation and i was just as lost then as i am now :P
[22:23] <ScrumpyJack> i'm not sure. do i need show()?
[22:23] <mlelstv> I guess you need it once.
[22:23] <mlelstv> set_pixel writes the values to some buffer and show sends the buffer to the unicorn hat
[22:23] <mlelstv> at least that's my guess
[22:23] <ScrumpyJack> that's also what the docs say :)
[22:24] <swiss> l2vi
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[22:24] <mlelstv> so moving the show behind the loops and call it only once should be faster :)
[22:24] <ScrumpyJack> so remove an indent?
[22:24] <mlelstv> two indents
[22:24] <mlelstv> leave it inside the while loop
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[22:25] <ScrumpyJack> yay!
[22:25] <mlelstv> better?
[22:25] <ScrumpyJack> much, thanks
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[22:27] <Valduare> thinking of getting an arduino 3d printer kit
[22:28] <Bilby> does it print arduinos or print using an ardiuno?
[22:28] <Valduare> lol
[22:28] <Valduare> using an arduino
[22:28] <ScrumpyJack> lol
[22:29] <Bilby> I can’t wait until we can directly print single layer PCB
[22:30] <Bilby> *inexpensively and quickly
[22:30] <ScrumpyJack> mlelstv: so, if i top all that script with i while True: i have to indent everything below it?
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[22:30] <Bilby> dangit osx / colloquy
[22:31] <Bilby> as i was saying… that’s the thign i like the least about python
[22:31] <Valduare> I love colloquy
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[22:32] <Bilby> I don’t like that it seems to be missing things like how to change /notices to show inline, things like that. inconsistent.
[22:32] <Bilby> it’s better than other irc clients i’ve tried though
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[22:37] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
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[22:38] <TrekBike> I just use EPIC5
[22:38] <TrekBike> Not the easiest thing to use, but it works in a terminal.
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[22:40] <Valduare> Bilby: you could 3d print circuits and pour gallium metal into it to flow into all the traces and then rest components ontop of it and DONT move it haha
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[22:42] <sir_galahad_ad> Metal Gear!? It can't be...
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[22:44] <ScrumpyJack> how do i limit a returned float to 3 decimal points?
[22:44] <Anitox> round it to 3 decimal points
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[22:44] <sir_galahad_ad> ScrumpyJack: multiply by 1000 floor divide by 1000
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[22:45] <sir_galahad_ad> oh at .5 before flooring
[22:45] <sir_galahad_ad> er not at, add
[22:46] <ScrumpyJack> i mean i'd like 0.9999999999 to return 0.999 :)
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[22:46] <sir_galahad_ad> yes
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[22:48] <ScrumpyJack> so say my float is in f, what do i do to f to return 0.999 ?
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[22:49] <sir_galahad_ad> ScrumpyJack: tmp=f*1000; tmp+=.5; tmp=floor(tmp); f=tmp/1000;
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[22:50] <ScrumpyJack> i see
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[22:51] <sir_galahad_ad> ScrumpyJack: floor(3.5)=3
[22:51] <sir_galahad_ad> ceiling(3.5)=4
[22:51] <ScrumpyJack> int(3.5)=3
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[22:52] <sir_galahad_ad> ScrumpyJack: i think you mean (int)(3.5) :P
[22:52] <mlelstv> and now the question what floor(3.0) and ceil(3.0) are :)
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[22:52] <sir_galahad_ad> mlelstv: 3 and 3
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[22:53] <mlelstv> sure? :)
[22:53] <sir_galahad_ad> pretty sure, though i suppose you could use man to find out
[22:53] <mlelstv> the question is what 3.0 is.
[22:54] <mlelstv> depending on the floating point representation it could be slight below or above 3.0. And then?
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[22:55] <jchampion> mlelstv: erm, are there any common floating point representations that don't represent 3.0 exactly?
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[22:56] <jchampion> typically you have trouble with fractions, not small whole numbers, right?
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[22:56] <sir_galahad_ad> you can have trouble with very large numbers too
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[22:56] <jchampion> right
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[22:59] <sir_galahad_ad> anyways ScrumpyJack there is a chance that due to floats not quite being in base 10 things might be weird for some numbers, you could always use the unmodfied number and use printf or one of it's family to format decmals to by 3 places or less
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[23:00] <traeak> fixed point is best if you want to try to guarantee some precision
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[23:00] <sir_galahad_ad> on out put
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[23:00] <ScrumpyJack> n = 0, loop n = n + 0.003 and print. after about 3 loops, floating storage becomes liberal
[23:01] <traeak> accumulation hehe
[23:01] <traeak> accumulating errors
[23:01] <traeak> n = index * .003
[23:01] <sir_galahad_ad> i can't help very much atm because there is a cat all up in my grill
[23:02] <ali1234> jchampion: due to how floats work, there's not really any such thing as whole numbers
[23:02] <jchampion> ali1234: that's not true
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[23:03] <jchampion> ali1234: look up IEEE floating point representations
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[23:04] <ali1234> technically, the mantissa represents numbers between 0 and 1
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[23:06] <sware> anyone here know where I can find the source code for the epiphany browser?
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[23:07] <ScrumpyJack> surely that can't be hard to find :)
[23:07] <ali1234> add a deb-src line to your apt config, and then apt-get source epiphany
[23:07] <sir_galahad_ad> sware: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/epiphany/
[23:07] <sware> thanks
[23:07] <ScrumpyJack> it's on launchpad
[23:08] <ali1234> that wn't have the raspberry pi specific patches
[23:08] <ali1234> if tere are any
[23:08] <ali1234> well, it might if they were upstreamed
[23:08] <sir_galahad_ad> well...there's that
[23:09] <ScrumpyJack> ali1234: you'll need to check the raspbian build repo
[23:09] <ali1234> i know :)
[23:09] <ScrumpyJack> cool
[23:10] <sware> I'm curious how the hardware acceleration for html5 video works in it, so I'll need the pi specific one
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[23:11] <ali1234> sware: so add a deb-src line and then you can apt-get the source code of any package on your system with one command
[23:12] <sware> yup. thanks
[23:12] <ali1234> https://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianRepository has an example. you just clone the "deb ..." line but change it to "deb-src"
[23:13] <ali1234> then sudo apt-get update, then apt-get source <package>
[23:13] <ali1234> the video acceleration stuff might not actually be in epiphany. it might be in gstreamer or something weird
[23:15] <sware> k I'll poke around. Thanks for the help.
[23:15] <jchampion> ali1234: right. The mantissa is between zero and one (which you add one to to get the actual multiplier)... I'm afraid I don't see your point. Are you claiming that IEEE 754 does not represent whole numbers like 2, 3, and 5 exactly?
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[23:16] <mlelstv> the question is what a "whole number" is. A literal constant, likely. A numeric string converted to float, possibly. The result of any computation: unlikely.
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[23:17] <mlelstv> that's why comparing floating point for equality is almost always wrong. And ceil/floor aren't much different.
[23:17] <jchampion> mlelstv: I'm fine with that. I am asking about the specific claim that 3.0, when converted to any common floating point representation, has representation error.
[23:18] <jchampion> and I was curious to see if there were representations in use where that was true.
[23:18] <mlelstv> probably hasn't. But who does ceil(3.0) when he knows that this is 3.
[23:19] <mlelstv> it's ceil(x) where you don't know what x is.
[23:19] <jchampion> sure. agreed.
[23:19] <mlelstv> so in any real usage of ceil() or floor() you have to be careful to avoid the pitfalls of floating point.
[23:20] <jchampion> +1
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[23:22] <ScrumpyJack> thanks for you help folks. next step is to add a web front end to the A+ and unicornhat to control speed and brightness from a phone. yay!
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[23:22] <sir_galahad_ad> grats
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[23:23] <sir_galahad_ad> man things are very netsplitty today
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[23:33] <warpie> netsplittie?
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[23:40] <sir_galahad_ad> maybe
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[23:42] <exonormal> well, at least the pi's didn't split....
[23:44] <sir_galahad_ad> woo :)
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[23:45] <exonormal> lol
[23:46] <sware> ali1234: After doing that and updating, I tried sudo apt-get source epiphany and it says "you must put some source URIs in your sources.list. I checked to make sure and that weezy line with deb-src was added to sources.list properly. Any ideas?
[23:46] <ali1234> you do not need to use sudo with apt-get source
[23:47] <sware> it happens without it though
[23:47] <ali1234> i don't know why it isn;t working for you
[23:47] <sware> k
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