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IRC Log for 2016-04-20

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[0:00] <warpie> try early '50's
[0:00] <Rukus> shauno, there were some systems that were still in play at my school, only because i think our computer science teacher was a hardcore geek / oldy
[0:00] <Rukus> i wouldnt even know what they were
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[0:00] <Zardoz> warpie, you are?
[0:00] <Rukus> i remember something about BBS
[0:00] <warpie> uh huh
[0:01] <warpie> almost retirement age
[0:01] <Zardoz> warpie, I have you beat young one...
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[0:01] <Zardoz> Rukus, I ran a bbs
[0:01] <Rukus> warpie you may be young at heart. dont you ever get crusty
[0:01] <ShorTie> ya, the could be costly on the phone bill .. :/~
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[0:01] <warpie> I'm already crusty... lol...
[0:01] <Rukus> zardoz, what were BBS for?
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[0:02] <warpie> I have to keep dusting off my pi's
[0:02] <Rukus> warpie lol
[0:02] <warpie> lol
[0:02] <Rukus> there is someone in this room crustier than you, i am quite sure of it
[0:02] <Zardoz> Rukus, like the internet just not connected
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[0:02] <swift110> hmm
[0:03] <Rukus> Zardoz: so, i would put docs, files, programs, etc... and you could dial me directly?
[0:03] <Rukus> i mean if i ran a bbs
[0:04] <Zardoz> Rukus, you make the call. but yes files, chat, boards, games, just all text based. ascii etc.
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[0:04] <Rukus> thats cool
[0:04] <Rukus> i think we had that on our atari
[0:05] <Rukus> i mean, i think my brother was using our atari for that
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[0:05] <Zardoz> Rukus, oh I was like the host and people called the system. I had 4 lines.
[0:05] <Rukus> oh thats sweet
[0:06] <Zardoz> Rukus, ran it on an amiga 2000
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[0:07] <Zardoz> Rukus, it was fun to run. man that cost a lot of money back then.
[0:07] <Rukus> haha i'll bet
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[0:10] <warpie> whut? swift110
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[0:12] <warpie> this is my pi zero...
[0:12] <warpie> Sysinfo for 'raspberrypi': Running against KDE 4.14.2 on Raspbian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) powered by Linux 4.1.19+, CPU: ARMv6-compatible processor rev 7 (v6l) at 1000 MHz, RAM: 273/434 MB, Storage: 4/6 GB, 89 procs, 1.45h up
[0:13] <Rukus> nice
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[0:14] <warpie> ty
[0:14] <abnormal> here;s my pi B3...
[0:14] <abnormal> Sysinfo for 'raspberrypi': Running against KDE 4.14.2 on Raspbian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) powered by Linux 4.1.19-v7+, CPU: ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) at 1200 MHz, RAM: 385/862 MB, Storage: 3/27 GB, 124 procs, 91.53h up
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[0:15] <exonormal> and.... here's my pi B2...
[0:15] <exonormal> Sysinfo for 'abnormal-desktop': Running against KDE Frameworks 5 on Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) powered by Linux 3.18.0-25-rpi2, CPU: ARMv7 Processor rev 5 (v7l) at 900 MHz, RAM: 590/923 MB, Storage: 5/29 GB, 148 procs, 245.19h up
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[0:16] <exonormal> I have four nicks...
[0:16] <exonormal> 3 pi's logged in
[0:16] <Rukus> is that an irc script?
[0:16] <exonormal> what is?
[0:16] <Rukus> how you show that information
[0:16] <exonormal> sysinfo?
[0:16] <Rukus> yeah
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[0:17] <exonormal> it's in the Konversation IRC client app
[0:17] <Rukus> ah got ya
[0:17] <Rukus> like this
[0:17] <Rukus> HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.19.0-32-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 480 @ 2.67GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.33GHz ** RAM: Physical: 5.5GB, 56.5% free ** Disk: Total: 223.3GB, 22.8% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID ** Ethernet: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Yukon Optima 88E805
[0:17] <Rukus> 9 [PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Controller with AVB] ** Uptime: 3d 22h 39m 21s **
[0:17] <Rukus> but thats obviuously not a pi
[0:17] <exonormal> that's why you see "KDE"
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[0:17] <exonormal> dog, you got a peppy puter
[0:17] <Rukus> got ya
[0:18] <Rukus> lol nah its old
[0:18] <Rukus> i really have no idea.
[0:18] <exonormal> don't matter, still peppy
[0:18] <Rukus> thx
[0:18] <exonormal> yw
[0:18] <Rukus> i can compile android in 1hr:40mins
[0:18] <Rukus> xD
[0:18] <exonormal> sweet
[0:19] <exonormal> I can't compile for beans..
[0:19] <Rukus> meh
[0:19] <Rukus> its easy what i do
[0:19] <exonormal> my brain is made in Mexico
[0:19] <Rukus> lol
[0:19] <exonormal> lol
[0:19] <Rukus> assembled in china?
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[0:19] <Rukus> sorry. :P
[0:19] <exonormal> nah, worse than that..
[0:19] <Bilby> I return!
[0:20] <exonormal> prolly in signapore
[0:20] <Bilby> ah, signapore, the asian capital of street and road sign production
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[0:20] <exonormal> lol yup
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[0:22] <Bilby> Pity the fool that enters their web of one-way streets and pedestrian crossings
[0:22] <Rukus> Bilby: living here, "oils good?" BUILD BUILD BUILD. "oils bad?" "oh look, unfinished streets and neighborhoods"
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[0:25] <exonormal> so, what else is the agenda?
[0:25] * taza (~taza@unaffiliated/taza) Quit ()
[0:25] <Bilby> monolithic economy = danger zone
[0:26] <exonormal> yeh, sadly, eh?
[0:26] <exonormal> petrol went up again... darn it
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[0:27] <Rukus> well canada has other resources, we just need to understand that oil isnt the answer to everything
[0:27] <exonormal> verie true...
[0:27] <swift110> I will be starting over with my pies tonight
[0:27] <exonormal> yay!!!
[0:28] <Rukus> yay
[0:28] <exonormal> Uptime: 10 days, 5 hours and 23 minutes
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[0:28] <Rukus> anyway, i am gonna go watch TV> later friends!
[0:28] <abnormal> later
[0:28] <abnormal> cya
[0:28] <Zardoz> Rukus, o/
[0:28] <abnormal> Uptime: 3 days, 19 hours and 45 minutes
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[0:30] <Zardoz> 17:29:09 up 1 day, 48 min, 2 users, load average: 0.38, 0.32, 0.32
[0:30] <warpie> Uptime: 1 hours and 44 minutes
[0:30] <warpie> lol
[0:31] <warpie> just did up time on my ITX, almost 55 days
[0:32] <warpie> I can't log in cuz I have 3 already.. if I do 4, I will be Z-lined... lolrof
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[0:46] <Sonny_Jim> 23:46:00 up 256 days, 12:19, 5 users, load average: 0.13, 0.13, 0.14
[0:46] <Sonny_Jim> Woo
[0:46] <Sonny_Jim> Good job it's not an 8bit counter
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[0:46] <SyncYourDogmas> can I see ps -e?
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[0:56] <warpie> wow
[0:56] <warpie> congrats, Sonny_Jim
[0:56] <Sonny_Jim> It's a SAMBA fileserver, so no great shakes
[0:56] <Sonny_Jim> I had one go over 300 days but then a slice of RAM fell out
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[0:57] <warpie> well at least it' not earthquakes...
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[0:57] <warpie> oops, sorry
[0:57] <Sonny_Jim> Crazy part was, I could see in the logs when the RAM fell out (OOM errors) but the sucker kept on running for a day, until midnight came and a load of cron jobs finally killed it
[0:58] <warpie> was that from heat cool action that made it fall out?
[0:58] <Zardoz> Sonar_Guy, crasy
[0:58] <Sonny_Jim> It was a home server, was a big old tower case that I shoehorned in a mobo that wasn't supposed to fit
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[0:58] <Zardoz> wtf
[0:58] <Zardoz> thats kind of crazy Sonny_Jim
[0:58] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah this was decades ago
[0:59] <Sonny_Jim> Let me get my current ifconfig stats ;)
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[0:59] <Sonny_Jim> RX packets 6479076529 bytes 6614145657112 (6.0 TiB)
[0:59] <Zardoz> aha
[0:59] <Sonny_Jim> And no, it's not a torrent box
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[1:00] <Sonny_Jim> It serves graphics files to garment printers
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[1:00] <Sonny_Jim> And that's just one interface, here's another
[1:01] <Sonny_Jim> RX packets 5101515805 bytes 4938540416539 (4.4 TiB)
[1:01] <warpie> wow
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[1:01] <warpie> you tripping big time
[1:01] <Sonny_Jim> Hell look at the loopback interface stats:
[1:01] <Sonny_Jim> RX packets 53895584 bytes 10779043513 (10.0 GiB)
[1:01] <Zardoz> TX packets:4856564 TX bytes:1674710732 (1.5 GiB) on a tracker I have
[1:02] <Sonny_Jim> When I build a box, it stays turned on and it works ;)
[1:02] <warpie> wow... both of you tripping
[1:02] <Zardoz> its been running for about 2 days
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[1:03] <Zardoz> just seeds of noobs and raspien
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[1:03] <Sonny_Jim> Holy moly
[1:03] <Rukus> i can make uptime up too
[1:03] <Zardoz> and that running on a rpi1
[1:03] <Sonny_Jim> my lsof is pretty big
[1:03] <plugwash> RX bytes:1860514708950 (1.6 TiB) TX bytes:89125343754993 (81.0 TiB)
[1:04] <Sonny_Jim> Oh boom
[1:04] <plugwash> 23:04:04 up 40 days, 7:15, 4 users, load average: 3.37, 3.67, 3.79
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[1:04] <Sonny_Jim> What's that box doing?
[1:04] <warpie> sonic boom there... sheesh
[1:04] <Zardoz> haha plugwash
[1:04] <Sonny_Jim> Pretty high load average
[1:04] <warpie> but no one can beat Google
[1:05] <plugwash> Sonny_Jim, serving raspbian.org
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[1:05] <Rukus> nice
[1:05] <warpie> sweet
[1:05] <Berg> sweet
[1:06] <Berg> hello world
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[1:06] <Sonny_Jim> (South Park Cop voice) Niiiice
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[1:06] <Rukus> ugh
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[1:09] <hemethod> trying to forward port 80 on my ddwrt but not having any luck. Does it take some time after you apply settings for it to start working?
[1:09] <Sonny_Jim> Nope
[1:10] <Sonny_Jim> Well, the DNS might take a while
[1:10] <ziddey> isp blocking port 80
[1:10] <Sonny_Jim> iptable/firewall opened?
[1:10] <hemethod> I've tried other ports without luck aswell
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[1:11] <hemethod> Just a default configuration of dd-wrt. I went through and looked at all the settings see if something looked suspicious but didn't notice anything
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[1:14] <Zardoz> hemethod, once you apply it in ddwrt it should be enabled.
[1:14] <Zardoz> hemethod, should be almost instant.
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[1:17] <hemethod> ah ok, it was actaully my apache server that was messed up. tomcat port works though!
[1:17] <binaryhermit> holy expletive... there's apparently someone selling a pi zero for 80AUD
[1:17] * binaryhermit assumes that's a lot more than 5USD
[1:17] <Zardoz> jebus
[1:18] <binaryhermit> apparently it's about 62.43 USD
[1:18] <Zardoz> there is someone local here selling one for 30 US and I thought that was nuts.
[1:18] <Zardoz> yeah thats nutw
[1:18] <binaryhermit> I think I might be able to get a uber to the closest Microcenter, a Pi0, and a Uber back for that price
[1:18] * binaryhermit is kidding
[1:19] <Zardoz> prolly cheeper
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[1:21] <warpie> I got mine thru amazon.com, it came from Fla...
[1:22] <ziddey> where you live binaryhermit
[1:22] <warpie> bought it as a kit.
[1:22] <Zardoz> warpie, canakit?
[1:22] <warpie> yes
[1:22] <warpie> really nice..
[1:23] <Zardoz> warpie, I got my pi3 from them
[1:23] <warpie> pi worked outta box
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[1:23] <binaryhermit> umm, the suburbs of Chicago
[1:23] <warpie> my pi B3 came from Canakit in Canada
[1:23] <warpie> my zero came from Fla
[1:23] <binaryhermit> I came across the $80AUD listing on /r/raspberry_pi, I believe
[1:23] <Zardoz> dont know why but I like canakit
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[1:24] <warpie> oh, I love Canakit.. they do real nice..
[1:24] <Zardoz> yeah i have a new love for them
[1:25] <binaryhermit> actually, I might be able to do a round trip Uber and a pi zero for about that price
[1:25] <warpie> also, I love maker kits too..
[1:25] <binaryhermit> or order a kit with extra stuff and just don't use the extra stuff
[1:25] <Zardoz> but I think they should send canakit stickers with the order
[1:25] <binaryhermit> (FWIW, Uber says one way is $28-37)
[1:25] <warpie> I got stickers with mine from Canada
[1:26] <aZz7eCh> they're called shipping labels
[1:26] <Zardoz> warpie, really :(
[1:26] <warpie> yes
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[1:26] <warpie> sorry you didn't
[1:26] <shauno> I haven't had a problem finding them in the regular places. just keep an eye on reddit, it's almost a race for them to put a post up when someone has stock
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[1:27] <Zardoz> this site cracks me up http://whereismypizero.com/
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[1:28] <shauno> yeah. but checking that 10 times a day seems a little excessive. but since I'm on reddit the day at work anyway ..
[1:29] <warpie> yes, that site was written by one of our pi members in here, is a script.
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[1:48] <warpie> well.. don't stop chatting... I like to see my screen scroll like a ticker tape...
[1:49] <Zardoz> hehe
[1:49] <warpie> so, what pi you buying next?
[1:49] <warpie> I have 8 so far
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[1:50] <warpie> and a BBB
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[1:50] <Zardoz> might be getting 2 rpi1 and a b+ if I can get the price down...
[1:50] <warpie> Unos, etc
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[1:51] <warpie> if you getting a B+, might as well get the B3
[1:51] <warpie> B3 rocks big time
[1:51] <Zardoz> it has some extras
[1:52] <warpie> B2 can use Ubuntu nicely
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[1:52] <Zardoz> if I can get the b+ with case, piglow, sd card, and psu for 20 I might do it
[1:53] <warpie> good luck
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[1:54] <warpie> I also have a Digilent ChipKit WF32 board
[1:54] <warpie> and a ADALM1000 board
[1:55] <Zardoz> warpie, http://images.craigslist.org/00g0g_2yTb4uJpivk_600x450.jpg
[1:55] <Zardoz> thats the one I am looking at
[1:55] <warpie> ok looking....
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[1:55] <Zardoz> if i can get that for 20
[1:55] <swift110> hmm
[1:56] <warpie> pi ok, but that PSU I don't trust
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[1:56] <warpie> I'd get a better PSU
[1:56] <Zardoz> oh and it seems to have wifi and bt
[1:57] <warpie> the dongles?
[1:57] <Zardoz> so there is good amout of stuff with it...
[1:57] <warpie> cool
[1:57] <warpie> go for it before it's too late
[1:57] <warpie> that's about $60 worth
[1:57] <Zardoz> yeah I contacted the guy...
[1:58] <warpie> but if you get it, pls get a better PSU...
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[1:58] <Zardoz> warpie, I am going to put that PSU on my P3 just to see you cringe lmao
[1:59] <warpie> adafruit.com has the best PSU's
[1:59] <Zardoz> canas are nice tool
[1:59] <warpie> thanks...
[1:59] <warpie> yes
[1:59] <Zardoz> too not a tool lmao
[1:59] <warpie> canas are the best
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[2:00] <warpie> the ones that come in Make kits are decent
[2:00] <warpie> they come from Adafruit
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[2:04] <warpie> I have one modle A ver 1... 4 yrs old
[2:04] <\ni> finally managed to install ssl certs on my pi. yay
[2:04] <warpie> congrats
[2:04] <\ni> ty
[2:04] <warpie> yw
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[2:09] <niston> ok, so LoRa is a modulation scheme
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[2:09] <niston> while LoRaWAN is a suitable MAC layer protocol
[2:09] <warpie> how about sLoRa?
[2:09] <niston> the modulation is based on Chirp Spread Spectrum
[2:09] <niston> what is sLoRa ?
[2:10] <warpie> lol, jk ya
[2:10] <niston> :P
[2:10] <warpie> how the Swiss life?
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[2:11] <niston> quite busy
[2:11] <niston> what about you ?
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[2:12] <warpie> overwhelmed
[2:12] <niston> by?
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[2:12] <warpie> boss want's me to learn LabView...
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[2:12] <warpie> it's way over my head...
[2:12] <niston> ooo LabView
[2:12] <warpie> yeah.. sheesh
[2:12] <niston> its like a programming language for complicated GPIO stuff :P
[2:12] <warpie> yup sure is
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[2:13] <warpie> so I built a mini setup of our lab's capcitor bank
[2:13] <plugwash> labview is really easy to get started with but a PITA to do complex stuff in (though it can certainly do it)
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[2:14] <Sonny_Jim> Oh gof
[2:14] <Sonny_Jim> *god
[2:14] <Sonny_Jim> It's one of those 'visual' languages, isn't it
[2:14] <Sonny_Jim> Honestly, once you get past doing the most simplest of stuff, I find them more complicated than even something like C
[2:15] <plugwash> yep
[2:15] <Sonny_Jim> I had to use Max for a while
[2:15] * Sonny_Jim shudders
[2:15] <Sonny_Jim> warpie: How come they want you to learn LabView?
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[2:16] <warpie> we use it all the time
[2:16] <warpie> at my job
[2:16] <Sonny_Jim> For what though?
[2:16] <Sonny_Jim> In any case
[2:17] <warpie> for controlling testing equipment
[2:17] <Sonny_Jim> I think 90% of the time a 'visual' language can be easily replaced by a decent IDE
[2:17] <Sonny_Jim> It's only because idiots like your boss can't understand a screen full of code and like that they can click and make lines between blocks
[2:17] * Sonny_Jim grumbles
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[2:18] <plugwash> the other thing labview brings to the table is a really wide range of hardware support
[2:18] <Sonny_Jim> I mean, for something like radio, sure it makes sense to have lots of blocks and a visual way of seeing the signal go around (like GNU Radio)
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[2:18] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
[2:18] <Sonny_Jim> But for controlling stuff, ewww
[2:18] <Zardoz> sir_galahad_ad, yo
[2:18] <warpie> right, Sonny_Jim
[2:19] <plugwash> grab a random peice of remote controllable test gear and theres a good chance it will have a labview driver
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[2:19] <sir_galahad_ad> morning Zardoz
[2:19] <myke> http://www.ni.com/cms/images/devzone/pub/nrjsxmfm912163998723206173.jpg
[2:19] <Sonny_Jim> I hate how in certain industries, software like that seems to be the norm *cough* Cycling '74 *cough* not because it's good, but because everybody uses it
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[2:20] <Sonny_Jim> That's insane
[2:20] <Zardoz> Sonny_Jim, like windows?
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[2:21] <Sonny_Jim> It's like the demon offspring of a schematic and a programming languauge, succeeding at neither
[2:21] <Zardoz> lol
[2:21] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, I need to do something positive, all this moaning is dragging me down
[2:21] <abnormal> Sonny_Jim: have you tried to use HBM Perception???
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[2:22] <Sonny_Jim> No, my only experience of crap like that has been Max MSP in Ableton Live. I normally stick to sane stuff, like real schematics and C/Python
[2:23] <Sonny_Jim> The *worst* thing about Max MSP is that it uses 'cutesy' terms, because it's designed by 'artists' (read: idiots)
[2:23] <Sonny_Jim> Like you send a 'bang' down a signal line
[2:23] <Sonny_Jim> So you end up with ridiculous statements like "if bang banged, do blah"
[2:24] <Sonny_Jim> "loadbang output is triggered automatically when the file is opened, or when the patch is part of another file that is opened. "
[2:24] <Sonny_Jim> etc etc
[2:25] <Sonny_Jim> "bangbang
[2:25] <Sonny_Jim> Output a bang from many outlets "
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[2:25] <Sonny_Jim> It's just perverse
[2:25] <abnormal> lol, I feel ya, Sonny_Jim
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[2:25] <Sonny_Jim> at least with something like C, you can guess what a function/command does
[2:26] <Sonny_Jim> With MSP, you are constantly having to look stuff up
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[3:04] <IntelCorei5> I am speechless right now
[3:04] <IntelCorei5> I spent an entire day trying to get samba working about a month ago
[3:04] <IntelCorei5> never could
[3:04] <Sonny_Jim> Sheesh
[3:04] <IntelCorei5> I just launched and configured it for the first time again today
[3:04] <IntelCorei5> and it worked instantly
[3:04] <Sonny_Jim> Congrats ;)
[3:05] <Sonny_Jim> With SAMBA, it's very easy to get into a situation where one OS likes to blame the other
[3:06] <Sonny_Jim> Or rather, you have no idea one Windows box will talk to a samba server and another one doesn't
[3:06] <Sonny_Jim> I blame the convoluted "Home/Private" Windows networking nonsense
[3:06] <IntelCorei5> not really convoluted
[3:06] <Sonny_Jim> It used to be about Workgroups, then it changed to some other thing
[3:06] <Rukus> isnt it still about workgroups?
[3:06] <IntelCorei5> yes
[3:06] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah it is, once you factor in domains, users etc
[3:07] <IntelCorei5> I had to set up workgroup for rpi share
[3:07] <MiningInc> fuggin home/private windows nonsense + 1
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[3:07] <Sonny_Jim> Win 8 and upwards come with a slightly different way of sharing files that isn't compatible with SAMBA iirc
[3:07] <Rukus> yeah, ive always had to make sure every computer was on same workgroup, but nothing about home/private i can blame specifically
[3:07] <Rukus> ohhh ok
[3:07] <Rukus> i use windows 7 usually
[3:08] <Sonny_Jim> Then someone turns up with a Macbook and says "Can I join the party?"
[3:08] <Sonny_Jim> And you end up stabbing them in the eyes with pencils
[3:08] <Sonny_Jim> Day in the life of tech support
[3:08] <MiningInc> Rukus yeah.. stay in the past... windows current future == a slighlty shinier turd, with slightly more problems. lOl
[3:08] <Rukus> only if you have anger issues
[3:08] <IntelCorei5> Sonny_Jim: Windows 10 is completely compatible with Samba...
[3:08] <Voop> windows 10 uses onedrive to share between windows 10 machines
[3:08] <Voop> still has workgroups though
[3:08] <Rukus> MiningInc: haha yeah, i use linux usually
[3:08] <Sonny_Jim> IntelCorei5: Depends on which sharing method you choose
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[3:08] <MiningInc> I do enjoy onedrive
[3:09] <MiningInc> and have managed to get several of those free 200gb of additional space...soo that is nice
[3:09] <Voop> onedrive is pretty much the only redeeming factor of win10
[3:09] <IntelCorei5> http://prntscr.com/auf017
[3:09] <MiningInc> Voop I will agree with that. lol
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[3:09] <IntelCorei5> what, not the lower resource usage?
[3:10] <IntelCorei5> faster overall experience?
[3:10] <IntelCorei5> start menu back?
[3:10] <Rukus> i'd still like to know why caja crashes when i try to browse my workgroup
[3:10] <IntelCorei5> DX12?
[3:10] <Voop> i dont think i even have dx12
[3:10] <IntelCorei5> if you're on W10 it's installed by default
[3:10] <IntelCorei5> it's a core part of the OS libraries
[3:10] <Voop> another great thing about win10 is it auto identifies what drivers you need for everything and downloads them
[3:10] <Sonny_Jim> I think you are extolling the virtues of Win10 in completely the wrong channel
[3:11] <Voop> even if they are super obscure
[3:11] <Sonny_Jim> ;)
[3:11] <IntelCorei5> Voop: it even works sometimes
[3:11] <Sonny_Jim> lol
[3:11] <IntelCorei5> most of the time it's out of date driver tho
[3:11] <Voop> ive had a good experience with it
[3:11] <Sonny_Jim> Hell, I remember the bad old days of having to manually compile drivers. Thank god in 99.99% of cases stuff in Linux just works
[3:12] <Voop> every other windows version cant even find the audio driver
[3:12] <Rukus> thats really why i like linux
[3:12] <Sonny_Jim> Although configuring wireless always seems to be a pain :\
[3:12] <IntelCorei5> nvidia just doesn't happen on linux tho
[3:12] <IntelCorei5> no display output by default in OpenSUSE because nouvaeu doesn't support the GTX 900 series
[3:12] <Sonny_Jim> I'll take the Windows "Click the network name, type in the password" thing every day of the week, rather than faffing around in /etc
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[3:13] <IntelCorei5> soy uo have to boot into cli and compile a driver manually
[3:13] <Sonny_Jim> weird, I always found it the other way round
[3:13] <Sonny_Jim> Ah, depends if you use the properitory driver
[3:13] <IntelCorei5> Sonny_Jim: unless you're using a distro with no proper network manager there's no difference in connecting
[3:13] <Sonny_Jim> I always use to prefer Nvidia cards under Linux just because support for ATI stuff was so shockingly poor
[3:13] <IntelCorei5> I had an R9-270, when it was still brand new
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[3:14] <IntelCorei5> and it worked out of box on linux
[3:14] <IntelCorei5> and had 1:1 performance with windows
[3:14] <IntelCorei5> with my 960, while it's still current gen but nearing end of gen
[3:14] <IntelCorei5> it barely works at all with linux and requires custom compiled drivers
[3:14] <Sonny_Jim> Well, when it comes to some stuff, much prefer editing text files to config. Makes it a piece of cake to copy that config to other machines, back it up etc
[3:14] <IntelCorei5> can't speak for performance
[3:14] <IntelCorei5> Sonny_Jim: set up connection using network manager, copy config file...done
[3:14] <Sonny_Jim> But yeah, gimme that point and click for wireless networking though
[3:15] <Sonny_Jim> Setting up wired connections in the CLI, np
[3:15] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah it's got to the point now with the Pi, to setup wireless, I plug in an ethernet, setup x11vnc and use the desktop manager to do it
[3:16] <Sonny_Jim> Seems bass ackward
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[3:20] <[Saint]> Hmmmm.
[3:20] <[Saint]> Half the visible Internet just died.
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[3:23] <[Saint]> ...for a very small amount of time, apparently.
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[3:29] <Sonny_Jim> That reminds me
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[3:30] <Sonny_Jim> That scene in gravity where George Clooney says "Half of North America just lost their facebook"
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[3:30] <Sonny_Jim> Seems to sidestep the little latency problem of sending data from the earth, to LEO and back again ;)
[3:30] <IntelCorei5> im slowly easing myself into web development with Python
[3:30] <Sonny_Jim> The speed of light is quick, but not that quick
[3:31] <[Saint]> There's very minimal latency between terrestrial broadcast and LEO.
[3:31] <[Saint]> It really isn't very far away at all.
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[3:33] <Sonny_Jim> It's enough to put 1/4 second on each request
[3:33] <Sonny_Jim> And then there's that little issue of bandwidth, but anyway
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[3:37] <[Saint]> 'on each request' is a bit of an odd way to put a continuous data flow.
[3:37] <[Saint]> it's not like the latency is additive.
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[3:41] <[Saint]> It's entirely possible to get a much worse RTT here on Earth with purely terrestrial traffic.
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[3:46] <[Saint]> Sonny_Jim: rough back-of-an-envelope math tells me optical transfer in a perfect medium between earth and the ISS has a single-direction time of around 0.001s.
[3:47] <p71> hm, been a while, but ... looked up LEO, distance is ~2E3 km, or 2E6 m. hence 2E6 / 3E8 * 2 = 13E-3
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[3:47] <p71> ya same here. 13 ms << 0.25 s
[3:47] <[Saint]> I went for the ISS specifically, which is ~400km.
[3:47] <[Saint]> but, same ballpark.
[3:48] <[Saint]> so - basically, no worse, and probably better, than a lot of terrestrial connections.
[3:49] <p71> yup... equipment latency bound to be a bigger influence than intrinsic delays due to EM signal.
[3:49] <p71> at, least, in this context. makes bigger difference in other contexts. e.g. GPS satellites and such. fun stuff.
[3:51] <[Saint]> yeah - I'll admit, I did a lot of hand-wavey math, and chose not to include any atmospheric effects.
[3:51] <[Saint]> but, still, the ISS flatly isn't "far away" in space terms.
[3:51] <[Saint]> it's very very close in reality.
[3:53] <[Saint]> I think I might have goofed rounding slightly, I was ballparking, so it might be closer to .002s
[3:53] <p71> ha, yes. I'm not going to pull out the relativity and EM books tonight... not for random chat on IRC ;-)
[3:53] <[Saint]> I basically concluded that for our purposes the atmosphere provided little more than a rounding error I'd abstract away later.
[3:53] <p71> eh, it's close.
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[3:54] <[Saint]> .0014 or so
[3:54] <sir_galahad_ad> leo
[3:54] <p71> yeah, those effects are to further decimal points. doesn't matter if you're just saying +/- some milliseconds.
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[3:55] <p71> 0.002 s +/- 0.001 s, ... and you're safe ;-)
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[4:10] <SyncYourDogmas> Sonny_Jim: want to know a one liner for setting up wireless connections in cli...? not saved persistanty though
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[4:20] <[Saint]> nmcli dev wifi con SSID password PASSWORD
[4:20] <[Saint]> done.
[4:20] <[Saint]> simple, and persistent.
[4:21] <[Saint]> some people hate on networkmanager a lot, no idea why, nmcli is simple and effective.
[4:21] <SyncYourDogmas> for wpa connections too?
[4:22] <SyncYourDogmas> it never worked consistently for me
[4:22] <SyncYourDogmas> that is a good one liner though
[4:23] <[Saint]> yes.
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[4:23] <[Saint]> (as in, yes, it does work with WPA|2 auth)
[4:25] <[Saint]> alternatively, you can do a guided setup with nmcli and its neat little dialog based commandline UI by just running nmcli with no arguments.
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[4:28] <SyncYourDogmas> like wpa_cli
[4:28] <SyncYourDogmas> I'll need to have another look at it
[4:28] <SyncYourDogmas> it doesnt come installed in a debian net image, which is slightly annoying
[4:29] <[Saint]> that's one of the advantages of networkmanager I guess. in most debian-esque distros it is available as a default.
[4:30] <[Saint]> I've just used nmcli as long as I can remember.
[4:30] <[Saint]> takes a lot of the faffing about out of headless network interface management.
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[5:24] <Lyka> hi
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[5:25] <Lyka> yes, it's me, she-who-believes-she-is-a-wolf
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[5:43] <sir_galahad_ad> :O
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[5:52] <heatx> Hi. Im having an issue connecting to my raspberry pi running kali linux via vnc viewer... Can you guys help me out?
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[5:54] <heatx> I can connect using the same ip to raspberrian with no problem, but when i try to connect to kali, it just brings up a grey screen
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[6:33] <phil42> are you related to Lyekka?
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[7:00] <AlmightyA> I'm about to jump into the raspberry pi world for the first time and am about to dump some cash into a good starting point. What's the best touch display for the pi 3?
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[7:01] <RoBo_V> I like to my RPi0 to use it as ethernet gadget. is this 6 steps http://blog.gbaman.info/?p=699 and thats all ?
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[7:02] <Xark> AlmightyA: "best" is meaningless, but perhaps the official one? https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-touch-display/
[7:02] <AlmightyA> Of course there's no "best," I was just throwing that out there for opinions haha
[7:03] <AlmightyA> Thanks for the link, checking it out.
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[7:03] <AlmightyA> 7" display sounds solid.
[7:04] <Xark> AlmightyA: 800 x 480 http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/08/raspberry-pi-official-touchscreen-display/
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[7:04] <swift110-phone> hey
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[7:05] <AlmightyA> That display is getting quite a lot of nasty reviews on amazon.
[7:05] <AlmightyA> DILEMMA!
[7:06] <AlmightyA> Lotta DOA claims :(
[7:07] <swift110-phone> which display
[7:07] <AlmightyA> The official 7" display
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[7:08] <AlmightyA> Reading about this one now: http://amzn.com/B012ZRYDYY
[7:08] <AlmightyA> 1024 x 600, but not touch.
[7:09] <AlmightyA> Ahh, wants 12v power.
[7:10] <AlmightyA> Anbody know of any usb powered small displays?
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[7:10] <sir_galahad_ad> adafruit had some 5" ones
[7:10] <AlmightyA> I have a 20,100mAh RAVPower power block.
[7:10] <AlmightyA> Cool, I'll look it up.
[7:10] <sir_galahad_ad> i think 600x800 was the best they could do though
[7:11] <AlmightyA> 800x600 is fine by me.
[7:11] <AlmightyA> It'll take me back to my windows 95 days.
[7:11] <sir_galahad_ad> and what good days those were
[7:11] <AlmightyA> Seriously!
[7:12] <sir_galahad_ad> the super annoying "uh-oh" everytime you got a message on ICQ
[7:12] <AlmightyA> I met my wife on ICQ hahaha
[7:12] <AlmightyA> As if a mechanical keyboard wasn't loud enough, you got the typewriter sound effects to go with each keystroke.
[7:12] <AlmightyA> ICQ ruled.
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[7:14] <AlmightyA> Just threw up the Canakit ultimate pi 3 on purse.io!
[7:14] <[Saint]> a/s/l
[7:14] <AlmightyA> 12/f/San Francisco
[7:14] <AlmightyA> Gonna see if purse.io will bless me with the 30% discount.
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[7:15] <AlmightyA> Any cool projects with te 5MP cam module?
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[7:18] <ziddey> had a few 29%s fill today
[7:18] <AlmightyA> Purse is so ridiculously awesome.
[7:18] <AlmightyA> Addictive.
[7:19] <ziddey> yeah until the feds show up
[7:20] <AlmightyA> Well we aren't doing anything illegal by using the service. I'm convinced a lot of people use it to buy bitcoin. If you look at the localbitcoin cash price, it isn't too far fetched why someone would use purse.
[7:20] <SyncYourDogmas> purse..?
[7:20] <AlmightyA> www.purse.io
[7:20] <AlmightyA> You put bitcoin in escrow, post something you want on amazon, set a discount margin, someone buys that, once delivered, you release bitcoin.
[7:20] <SyncYourDogmas> cool
[7:21] <AlmightyA> Sounds ultra sketchy, but it works.
[7:21] <SyncYourDogmas> cheers
[7:21] <SyncYourDogmas> Ive used sketicher escrow with bitcoin ;)
[7:21] <AlmightyA> It has been around a few years, so I'd say if the fraud was rampant on there, Amazon would do something in response.
[7:21] <AlmightyA> Hahaha, that's some turf I will never venture to!
[7:22] <SyncYourDogmas> its perfectly legal just to browse it if your curious btw
[7:22] <AlmightyA> Oh yeah I know. I looked at it back in the beginning when Vice ran an article on it, totally mind blown.
[7:23] <AlmightyA> The balls some people have/blatant disregard for their freedom is mind boggling.
[7:27] <SyncYourDogmas> for their freedom?
[7:27] <AlmightyA> But yeah, using purse, I've saved a couple hundred bucks. You can buy coin on coinbase, load it up into purse, and buy away.
[7:27] <AlmightyA> Yeah for the freedom. Buying/selling drugs and guns or whatever.
[7:27] <AlmightyA> their*
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[7:28] <SyncYourDogmas> suprisingly safe if followed simple rules
[7:28] <AlmightyA> Still way too scary!
[7:28] * AlmightyA has no balls
[7:28] <SyncYourDogmas> nah, dodgiest part was post
[7:29] <AlmightyA> Didn't the silk road dude get life?
[7:29] <SyncYourDogmas> and you get one chance basically if its intercepted
[7:29] <SyncYourDogmas> well yeah he ran the thing though
[7:29] <AlmightyA> True. But damn, life in prison.
[7:29] <AlmightyA> Worse than death.
[7:29] <SyncYourDogmas> completely agree
[7:29] <mlelstv> you can always kill yourself
[7:29] <SyncYourDogmas> he did try and torture and murder people though
[7:29] <AlmightyA> Tru dat
[7:29] <AlmightyA> Shit he did?
[7:30] <AlmightyA> Well then yeah I guess he was asking for it.
[7:30] <AlmightyA> Fully agree with prison when it comes to violent crime.
[7:31] <SyncYourDogmas> yeah
[7:31] <[Saint]> He was a patsy. The wide belief these days is that there wasn't any one individual behind that moniker.
[7:31] <[Saint]> Which makes a lot of sense considering the seemingly split personalities the moniker had.
[7:31] <AlmightyA> I'd believe it, all that shit just sounds so crazy.
[7:31] <[Saint]> He just wasn't prepared (or possibly able) to sink anyone else with the ship as he went down.
[7:31] <AlmightyA> Such a thick plot haha
[7:32] <ziddey> rip satoshi
[7:33] <SyncYourDogmas> he did go to prison though
[7:33] <AlmightyA> Going to sleep world, goodnight yallz.
[7:33] <SyncYourDogmas> night man, cheers for that link
[7:34] <AlmightyA> Welcome! Hope you get some fat discounts!
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[7:48] <RoBo_V> configuring RPi0 uSD card as ether gadget by mounting in orange pi, followed this http://blog.gbaman.info/?p=699 no success, anyone can help ?
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[8:01] <swift110-phone> hmm
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[8:09] <Zardoz> testing out squid on a rpib
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[8:11] <swift110-phone> cool
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[8:12] <Zardoz> also might check out squid guard
[8:12] <[Saint]> "Hey, you there!"
[8:12] <[Saint]> "...don't touch that squid!"
[8:13] <Zardoz> :P
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[8:13] <[Saint]> ^ squid guard
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[8:19] <Zardoz> mmm I just got an idea
[8:20] <Zardoz> I have this usb gps wonder if i can hook it up and get time from it and use it as an ntp server
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[8:24] <Habbie> Zardoz, probably can
[8:24] <mlelstv> probably very easy to do. Most GPS devices just mimic a serial port and send text messages.
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[8:28] <Zardoz> yeah I have this old earthmate LT-40 think I need to install gpsd to get it working.
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[8:30] <mike_t> Zardoz, look like LT-40 is NMEA-compatible and ntps can works with it
[8:31] <Zardoz> mike_t, yup yup
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[8:31] <fattire> anyone here using ubuntu-mate?
[8:32] <fattire> I'm having an issue with sound... maybe it's just the pithos app tho
[8:32] <Zardoz> fattire, I did at one onetime. just to check it out.
[8:32] <fattire> Zardoz: it works great... but after 4 songs it seems to lock the music up for some reason
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[8:32] <fattire> also weirdly alsa thinks it only is playing in mono but it's definitely in stereo.
[8:33] <Zardoz> mmmm try a different app?
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[8:34] <fattire> yeah I mean nothing that just plays and plays in the background..but youtube seems to work
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[8:34] <fattire> although wish we had hardware acceleration
[8:35] <monoxane> who summoned thy?
[8:35] <monoxane> oh, heh, mono pings me
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[8:36] <Zardoz> fattire, we do some
[8:37] <Zardoz> fattire, it's beta have to turn it on
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[8:59] <fattire> Zardoz: oh? How do we turn it on?
[8:59] <Zardoz> raspi-config
[8:59] <Zardoz> lol crap your in mate
[9:00] <Zardoz> mmmm
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[9:02] <niston> haha
[9:02] <niston> it just occured to me that
[9:03] <niston> if I use an RTLSDR dongle for reception of 433Mhz in some raspi based appliance
[9:03] <niston> then I can use the same dongle to receive time signal via FM RDS broadcasts
[9:03] <niston> and thus dont need a hardware clock!
[9:04] <Zardoz> niston, :P
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[9:04] <niston> most excellent cus I didnt have room for one :P
[9:05] <niston> and heres the softjuarez needed to do it: https://github.com/windytan/redsea
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[9:08] <mike_t> niston, interesting idea but I think the station sends isn't a very accurate time
[9:08] <niston> I would say this depends on the station
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[9:09] <niston> the thing would be to find a station that does
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[9:16] <binaryhermit> slightly offtopic, but how the (expletives deleted) did I manage to (expletive deleted) the DNS on this laptop up so bad? I managed to make it so I could only access DNS on networks using 192.168.0.*
[9:17] <binaryhermit> fixed now
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[9:20] <niston> but as it turns out, the redsea program is for some reason not working
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[9:25] <niston> yep cant get it to decode anything
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[9:33] <niston> my pi1 might not be powerful enough >_<
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[9:33] <sir_galahad_ad> redsea?
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[9:33] <niston> https://github.com/windytan/redsea
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[9:39] <Zardoz> Pi Power!
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[9:48] <SyncYourDogmas> thats fantastic
[9:50] <Zardoz> sweet Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1163:0200 DeLorme Publishing, Inc. Earthmate GPS (LT-20, LT-40)
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[9:52] <Zardoz> sweet it's talking to the gps, but no fix on sats :(
[9:55] <sir_galahad_ad> Zardoz: could it be because you're indoors?
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[9:56] <Zardoz> sir_galahad_ad, for sure thats what it is
[9:57] <Zardoz> at least its talking to the GPS
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[10:00] <Zardoz> well in theory this should work if I get good signal.
[10:01] <sir_galahad_ad> i have an old hand held receiver that worked ok when hooked to my pi
[10:02] <Zardoz> sir_galahad_ad, mmm I might have a lock on one. 15 13 319 36
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[10:02] <ChunkzZ> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00Q4X8OLO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE will this be good for the pi 3?
[10:03] <Zardoz> cant be no data
[10:03] <RoBo_V> im trying to resize partition by mounting it to linux system it says "nothing to do!"
[10:03] <Zardoz> ChunkzZ, yes
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[10:04] <Zardoz> ChunkzZ, more then enough
[10:05] <ChunkzZ> cheers.
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[10:05] <Zardoz> ChunkzZ, the pi can do about 45MB/s in you overclock the sd card controller.
[10:06] <ChunkzZ> I'm about to buy the pi 3 :)
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[10:06] <Zardoz> ChunkzZ, good times
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[10:06] <RoBo_V> ChunkzZ: what you waiting for :P
[10:10] <Zardoz> ChunkzZ, what are you going to do with it?
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[10:11] <mike_t> Zardoz sweet it's talking to the gps, but no fix on sats :( // subframe channel is 50Bps. cold start time may be around 12 minute.
[10:12] <Zardoz> mike_t, yeah but I am sure I am having signal issues being inside.
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[10:14] <mike_t> my old sirf3 reciver works fine indoor.
[10:14] <Zardoz> yeah some do well others not so...
[10:14] <Zardoz> wonder what chipset this one is.
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[10:16] <Zardoz> STMicroelectronics Teseo chipset
[10:16] <Zardoz> sirf3 are nice for sure
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[10:25] <niston> sirf, is that uBlox?
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[10:25] <daveake> no
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[10:37] <Zardoz> alright sleepy time, night
[10:37] <niston> n8
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[10:48] <ChunkzZ> pi 3, power supply and case ordered. :)
[10:48] <ChunkzZ> just gotta order the sd card. XD
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[10:57] <RoBo_V> ChunkzZ: go for Samsung 32Gb EVO+ best perofrmance.
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[11:08] <ChunkzZ> RoBo_V, nah.
[11:09] <ChunkzZ> only 20mb/s write and 80mb/s read. this sandisk is faster.
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[11:09] <RoBo_V> Dont go by speed written performance in mini pc's system varies
[11:10] <ChunkzZ> RoBo_V, you mean this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Memory-MicroSDXC-UHS-I-Adapter/dp/B00WIMC5IS/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1461143380&sr=8-6&keywords=samsung+evo+microsd?
[11:11] <ChunkzZ> you mean that 1?>
[11:11] <ChunkzZ> RoBo_V, ?
[11:12] <ChunkzZ> I need to know RoBo_V
[11:13] <RoBo_V> http://www.pidramble.com/wiki/benchmarks/microsd-cards
[11:13] <RoBo_V> check the link and you will know everything
[11:14] <ChunkzZ> Samsung Evo+ 32GB 21.77 MB/s 15.8 MB/s 9.66 MB/s 3.43 MB/s
[11:14] <ChunkzZ> SanDisk Extreme Pro 8GB 21.02 MB/s 21.2 MB/s 9.07 MB/s 1.25 MB/s
[11:14] <ChunkzZ> meh
[11:14] <RoBo_V> yes that one.
[11:14] <ChunkzZ> the extreme pro beats it though
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[11:15] <ChunkzZ> so how is it best performance?
[11:15] <ChunkzZ> unless I'm missing something?
[11:15] <RoBo_V> if you see price too EVO+ is best along with best rand write
[11:16] <ChunkzZ> nope
[11:16] <ChunkzZ> sorry I disagree.
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[11:18] <skazz> Hello I am getting 'Image Corrupt or Truncated' intermittently in Firefox 42.0 on the Raspberry Pi, but the Windows 42.0 version (grabbed the portable), does not have this issue, nor does other browsers on the pi (like epiphany/webkit) .. The webpage is being done by nginx, no issues there .. Anyone got a solution?
[11:18] <RoBo_V> Chart is in front of you, decide for yourself.
[11:18] <ChunkzZ> RoBo_V, I want the best performance. I don't know what to buy!
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[11:22] <ChunkzZ> Samsung Memory 32GB EVO Plus MicroSDHC UHS-I Grade 1 Class 10 Memory Card with SD Adapter
[11:22] <ChunkzZ> ordering that.
[11:22] <daveake> You've been told what to buy - the EVO+ as it's best for random write. Unless you're writing large files (e.g. recording video) then random write speed is the most important factor
[11:23] <RoBo_V> Sanddisk extreme and pro is good but in here they are expensive and lot of variation in that.
[11:23] <daveake> Ihave a couple of those and lots of the Sandisks, and they're all good
[11:23] <daveake> those=EVO+
[11:23] <RoBo_V> I got EVO+ with 32GB here for $10
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[11:24] <ChunkzZ> I wanna use my pi for kodi (osmc) and web browsing.
[11:24] <ChunkzZ> evo+ should be fine for that~?
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[11:24] <RoBo_V> Also I needed high capacity so choose accordingly.
[11:25] <ChunkzZ> you're not helping me :/
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[11:26] <RoBo_V> As you say for your purpose, literally anything will do or go for Sandisk Extreme/pro/plus
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[11:27] <ChunkzZ> LIKE I SAID, I WANT BEST PERFORMANCE!
[11:27] <ChunkzZ> sigh.
[11:28] <daveake> You haven't defined that; you haven't said what you're doing with it.
[11:28] <RoBo_V> There is nothing like best performance it depends upon your usage and u have do tradeoff's.
[11:29] <ChunkzZ> daveake, yes I did. up ^ kodi and web browsing.
[11:29] <RoBo_V> EVO+ has best write speed, do you need that I guess not.
[11:29] <daveake> OK missed that. My answer above re large files applies ten - get an EVO+
[11:29] <ChunkzZ> ordered 2 of them.
[11:30] <mfa298> As RoBo_V just said you usually have to trade off different parameters, what's good at rand write speeds may not be the best at something else.
[11:30] <daveake> For your use probably anything will be fine
[11:30] <RoBo_V> So there best write speed has gone. So go with SandDisk Extreme 16GB
[11:30] <RoBo_V> suit you best I guess.
[11:30] <ChunkzZ> really? after I just ordered the evo+
[11:30] <ChunkzZ> :/
[11:31] <RoBo_V> lol
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[11:59] <myke> sdcard is slow
[11:59] <Habbie> i found that NFS to another box was faster than SD
[11:59] <Habbie> for various tasks
[12:00] <myke> yep that's how i have my home dir set up
[12:00] <myke> helps greatly
[12:00] <myke> chromium runs much better with its cache dir on nfs than sdcard
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[12:01] <Habbie> oh you desktop on it even
[12:01] <Habbie> i haven't desktopped with NFS in years
[12:06] <RoBo_V> sudo rpi-update on RPi3 gives curl: (7) Failed to connect to api.github.com port 443: Network is unreachable
[12:07] <myke> me neither but then again i haven't used a box with thin client specs as a desktop in years
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[12:08] <Habbie> RoBo_V, does your network work at all?
[12:10] <RoBo_V> ofcourse, update and upgrade worked just fine.
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[12:18] <emilio189> RoBo_V: maybe your dns doesn't work
[12:18] <emilio189> try to ping google
[12:18] <emilio189> i.e. "ping www.google.com"
[12:19] <emilio189> :D
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[12:19] <RoBo_V> working
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[12:20] <RoBo_V> *** No hash received from github: https://api.github.com/repos/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware/git/refs/heads/master
[12:20] <RoBo_V> curl: (7) Failed to connect to api.github.com port 443: Network is unreachable
[12:21] <SyncYourDogmas> ping 8.8.8.8
[12:21] <myke> ping 192.30.252.124
[12:22] <RoBo_V> works too
[12:22] <SyncYourDogmas> dns then, unblock port 53?
[12:22] <Habbie> it does not look like a dns issue
[12:22] <RoBo_V> myke: works
[12:23] <RoBo_V> and it is fresh installation
[12:23] <Habbie> curl https://api.github.com/
[12:23] <RoBo_V> just enable wifi and update and upgrade
[12:23] <RoBo_V> thats it
[12:24] <myke> can you hit that url from your pi?
[12:24] <myke> with wget or whatever
[12:24] <RoBo_V> Habbie: spit out some code
[12:24] <Habbie> RoBo_V, huh, ok
[12:24] <Habbie> try rpi-update again ;)
[12:24] <Habbie> btw i thought rpi-update wasn't necessary any more on raspbian
[12:25] <RoBo_V> Habbie: not working
[12:25] <Habbie> curl https://api.github.com/repos/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware/git/refs/heads/master
[12:26] <RoBo_V> again spit out sha, type, url and stuff
[12:26] <SyncYourDogmas> apt -get dist-upgrade
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[12:28] <mfa298> Habbie: that was my understanding as well, it seems that raspbian has recent kernel/firmware images packaged
[12:28] <RoBo_V> SyncYourDogmas: I think this is the right thing to do
[12:28] <RoBo_V> lets see
[12:29] <SyncYourDogmas> then check logs
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[12:30] <RoBo_V> No luck :/
[12:31] <RoBo_V> SyncYourDogmas: which log ?
[12:31] <AlmightyA> SyncYourDogmas: The order I put in earlier on purse.io just filled! Pi 3 and a few other things are on the way! Got 30% off of a $200 purchase!
[12:32] <AlmightyA> Err, $270 purchase.
[12:32] <RoBo_V> AlmightyA: How many days it took for order to get filled ?
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[12:33] <AlmightyA> I just put the order in literally like 45 minutes to an hour ago.
[12:33] <SyncYourDogmas> cat messages syslog | kern.log | grep -A5 -B5 -i net
[12:33] <SyncYourDogmas> in var/log
[12:33] <AlmightyA> And it filled at 6:09 AM.
[12:34] <RoBo_V> filled under an hour @ 30%
[12:34] <RoBo_V> great!
[12:34] <AlmightyA> Yeah, it's fucking awesome! Purse blows my mind to shit haha.
[12:35] <RoBo_V> SyncYourDogmas: says kern.log command not found
[12:35] <AlmightyA> Got me a pi 3 (canakit ultimate starter kit), a 128GB micro sd card, 256GB SD card, 64GB CF card, and a PS4 game. Ended up saving $70!
[12:35] <Armand> AlmightyA: I would suggest cutting the bad language.. Ops don't appreciate it.
[12:36] <AlmightyA> Armand, it isn't typical. Just excited haha. But if I get kicked for cussing a time or two, so be it, I wouldn't return.
[12:36] <SyncYourDogmas> RoBo_V: ignore it then, not too important
[12:36] <SyncYourDogmas> brb
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[12:44] <RoBo_V> SyncYourDogmas: here it goes https://paste.debian.net/439669/
[12:45] <SyncYourDogmas> I'll be free in an hour - stay logged on ad I;ll get back to you
[12:45] <RoBo_V> Sure no problem, take your time
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[12:52] <myke> i thought 64G was the limit
[12:52] <myke> maybe not
[12:53] <Habbie> the limit for SD is 2 ;)
[12:53] <Habbie> SDHC 32
[12:53] <Habbie> SDXC 2 TB
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[12:55] <binaryhermit> SDs over 32 GB need reformatting to work with the RPi because it doesn't speak exfat
[12:55] <Habbie> makes sense
[12:55] <binaryhermit> and apparently Windows is uncooperative on that front
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[12:55] <Habbie> hmm?
[12:55] <binaryhermit> well, at least on the "booting from it" front
[12:55] <Habbie> on what front?
[12:56] <binaryhermit> Habbie: refuses to format partitions over 32 GB to FAT32
[12:56] <Habbie> oh right
[12:56] <Habbie> i remember that from the pre-SD days too
[12:56] <Habbie> or, something like it anyway
[12:56] <Habbie> commandline usually did the trick
[12:56] <Habbie> wonder why raspbian can't read exfat though
[12:57] <Habbie> ah
[12:57] <Habbie> it's not in mainline linux
[12:57] <Habbie> exfat-fuse is there though
[12:58] <myke> sdcard not slow enough? run it with a fuse filesystem!
[12:58] <Habbie> :)
[12:59] <binaryhermit> Habbie: I know it demands a FAT32 partition for booting from
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[12:59] <Habbie> binaryhermit, fun
[12:59] <binaryhermit> though Raspbian might be able to read exfat once booted
[13:00] <Habbie> oh! you mean raspbian's /boot can't be exfat?
[13:00] <binaryhermit> right
[13:00] <Habbie> sure
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[13:01] <binaryhermit> right
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[15:36] <Ispira> Is it possible to get Byobu fully working over SSH?
[15:36] <Ispira> basci things like F2 to create new window, F9 to go to the menu work
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[15:36] <Ispira> but shift+f2, ctrl+f2 to split windows doesn't
[15:36] <Ispira> not sure if it's possible to forward these properly over ssh.
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[15:38] <Ispira> "Under the Keyboard options, you’ll have to change the Function keypad settings to “Xterm R6.” Now you’re set to enjoy Byobu via SSH!" I've done that, and tried other settings, specifically "Linux" but it still doesn't work as expected.
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[16:08] <Ispira> I think I found the issue
[16:08] <Ispira> looks like it's due to an outdated version of Tmux.
[16:08] <Ispira> Going to manually compile tmux from the latest and seee if that fixes it.
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[16:09] <Sonny_Jim> I'd recommend screen if the keyboard shortcuts weren't so weird
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[16:11] <Ispira> byobu wraps screen problem is
[16:11] <Ispira> it's broken
[16:11] <Ispira> can't open the config menu
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[16:11] <Ispira> so I have to use the tmux version
[16:11] <Ispira> not a really big deal since the tmux version is better anyway\
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[16:12] <AnonRecluse13> hey guys
[16:12] * Tenkawa still finds screen acceptable for most uses
[16:13] <Tenkawa> Ispira: how is screen broken>
[16:13] <Tenkawa> er ?
[16:13] <Ispira> screen isn't broken
[16:13] <Ispira> byobu-screen is broken
[16:13] <Tenkawa> oh i misread .. my bad
[16:13] <Ispira> at least in the version from raspbian ltie
[16:13] <Ispira> lite*
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[16:14] <Ispira> Screen is great and all, but I'm a GUI kinda guy. I don't want to have to press thirty key combos just to make a new window and name it
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[16:15] <Ispira> byobu simplifies things by making it all use basic keybinds, makes using headless systems pretty nice.
[16:15] <Tenkawa> hmm i may have to try it out
[16:15] <AnonRecluse13> if any of you have used Linux on the Pi 3, is it possible to get the boot and source compiling times?
[16:15] <Ispira> just don't do so on raspbian if you want it to work ^^
[16:16] <Tenkawa> Ispira: i usually compile my own
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[16:18] <Sonny_Jim> AnonRecluse13: Do you need accurate figures? Also, when you say "source compiling times", could you be a little more specific
[16:19] <Tenkawa> yeah that request as is , is way too vague
[16:20] <AnonRecluse13> basically, how long would it take to compile VLC from source on a raspberry pi 3?
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[16:20] <Sonny_Jim> No longer than a couple of hours I would have thought
[16:20] <Tenkawa> ahh thats a better q.. mind you one i cant answer however i imagine someone can
[16:20] <Sonny_Jim> tbh long compile times don't bother me, just let it run overnight or whatever. It's not like you've got to sit there watching it
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[16:21] <Sonny_Jim> Also, relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/303/
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[16:21] <Sonny_Jim> A better question would probably be, is it worth compiling VLC from source instead of using omxplayer?
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[16:23] <AnonRecluse13> good point
[16:23] <mfa298> compile times for vlc will also depend on what options are enabled, when looking at something like vlc I usually find the hardest part is finding all the dependancies
[16:23] <AnonRecluse13> i think the PiTop with a Raspberry Pi 3 will be replacing my netbook soon
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[16:24] <Sonny_Jim> mfa298: Yeah I was going to say that. You end up spending quite a while downloading/installing libs. It's normally way easier just to grab one from apt
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[16:31] <Ispira> WWWWWEEEEEEWEEEEEEEELP
[16:31] <Ispira> Took the last half hour to download and compile TMUX, Byobu, and all their dependancies
[16:31] <Ispira> and it still have the same problem.
[16:32] <Ispira> I hate everything
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[16:36] <Ispira> Just tested using KiTTY and PuTTY and confirmed that it's an actual problem not just my SSH client being bad
[16:36] <Ispira> so.... FML.
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[16:37] <Tenkawa> Ispira: whats happening? i missed that part
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[16:45] * phil42 suggests Xephyr
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[16:53] <Tenkawa> it is rare around here
[16:54] <Tenkawa> heh
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[16:56] <fred1807> how do I kill the tty framebuffer from command line?
[16:57] <gamelaster> Hello, I bought an display from China for RPI, its works, but the refresh rate of display is 32Hz (I think). All looks like Windows 95.. I think its not problem of display, but its some possible to make it faster for possible playing the old GBA games?
[16:59] <Zardoz> what do you mean faster?
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[17:00] <Armand> Specifically that should mean a higher refresh rate, such as 50 or 60Hz.. but I doubt that's the issue.
[17:01] <Armand> I would say that it's more likely just a really poor resolution screen.
[17:01] <gamelaster> that poor resolution is not problem
[17:01] <gamelaster> SPI Speed: 32MHz
[17:01] <Zardoz> is it a USB screen
[17:01] <Zardoz> ?
[17:01] <gamelaster> nope, GPIO
[17:01] <gamelaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdBVQT9rZIM
[17:02] <Zardoz> oh, just as bad...
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[17:02] <Zardoz> GPIO display will not be fast at all....
[17:03] <Armand> Ahh, so the context was entirely wrong. :)
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[17:04] <Zardoz> Armand, yeah not refresh rate at all....
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[17:04] <gordonDrogon> update speed - frames/sec.
[17:04] <gamelaster> oh, so maybe it cannot be faster?
[17:04] <FatB0yy> Hey.
[17:04] <Armand> I meant the reference to Win95..
[17:04] <gordonDrogon> gamelaster, probably not.
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[17:04] <gamelaster> I dont know but when I saw that, its reminds me an Windows 95 rendering :D
[17:05] <gamelaster> gordonDrogon: ah.. :D 12$ for nothing :D
[17:05] <Armand> As Win95 supported higher refresh rates, that's no point of comparison.
[17:05] <Zardoz> it's prolly a combo of GPIO and DPI
[17:05] <gordonDrogon> you can work out the theoretical max. update speed if you know the x/y/z pixel size.
[17:06] <gamelaster> I will try it, thanks for tip.. I too late a read an text in seller page
[17:06] <gamelaster> " Note: This screen can not play video games and watch video,only as the basis for the operation ."
[17:06] <Zardoz> gamelaster, yeah thats GPIO speed man...
[17:06] <Zardoz> gamelaster, just looked at the video
[17:06] <gordonDrogon> so e.g. 320x200 x 16bpp at 32MHz has a theoretical max. update speed of 31 frames/sec.
[17:07] <gordonDrogon> if the driver is smarter it might be able to just update the bit of screen that changed, however who knows...
[17:07] <Zardoz> gamelaster, you will need to drop rez and or colour the GPIOI can only go so fast
[17:08] <gordonDrogon> they're OK for embedded type applications though. Not so good for games.
[17:08] <gamelaster> Okay, I try to edit settings, my todo is just ran the old games like for GBA etc. what got a small resolution too :D
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[17:09] <Zardoz> gamelaster, you might check to see if the GPIO driver for the video can change the speed or overclocked.,
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[17:09] <fred1807> anyone knows how to kill the command prompt frame buffer on layer 0? I need to load some images on negative layers and the command prompt at 0 is always on top
[17:13] <Zardoz> gamelaster, can you give me the manufacture model of the display
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[17:15] <gamelaster> Zardoz: Kedei or Osoyoo
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[17:15] <gamelaster> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Lastest-Original-3-5-LCD-TFT-Touch-Screen-Display-for-Raspberry-Pi-2-Raspberry-Pi-3/32443379727.html here is all (sorry for AD)
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[17:23] <Zardoz> oops Note: This screen can not play video games and watch video, only as the basis for the operation.
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[17:26] <ChunkzZ> what's the best settings for config.txt on my pi 3?
[17:27] <gordonDrogon> ChunkzZ, the default ones.
[17:28] <Zardoz> ahah
[17:28] <ChunkzZ> that isn't my question...
[17:28] <gordonDrogon> yes it was - you wanted the best settings. my opinion is that the best settings are the default ones.
[17:29] <gordonDrogon> maybe be more specific? like overclock values, hdmi values, etc.
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[17:30] <fred1807> can I serve a web page via the blutooth?
[17:30] <SirLagz> fred1807: yes...but why would you want to?
[17:31] <Zardoz> slowly
[17:31] <fred1807> SirLagz: Like a web page to config the wifi
[17:31] <SirLagz> fred1807: it'd have to be a pretty special set of circumstances to do it too
[17:31] <SirLagz> fred1807: probably be easier with NFC tags.
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[17:31] <SirLagz> fred1807: unless you mean configure the wifi settings on the Pi.
[17:31] <SirLagz> fred1807: was thinking the wrong way for a second there I think lol
[17:31] <fred1807> a headless pi on a new wifi environment.... Than I would just use the bluetooht to get a web page and enter the ssdi / user and pass
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[17:32] <fred1807> possible?
[17:32] <SirLagz> fred1807: or make the Pi broadcast a network until a wifi network is setup
[17:32] <fred1807> SirLagz: I may be able to change the network, even if it is connected to a wifi already
[17:32] <SirLagz> or wifi network is connected I should say
[17:33] <fred1807> So the concept is possible? Connect to the pi bluetooth using an iphone, to get a special wifi config html page?
[17:33] <SirLagz> fred1807: I don't know about doing it on an iPhone. You would likely need a PC
[17:33] <meiamsome> You could make it prefer a network with a specific SSID over all others and then just broadcast that SSID from your phone?
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[17:34] <SirLagz> meiamsome: possibly. I never tried that. I always made my Pi broadcast a network if it couldn't find the preferred one
[17:34] <fred1807> Iphone was a bad example. I would like to be to have this bluetooht always avalible to anyone who wants to config the wifi. Using a phone browser or a laptop, anything
[17:35] <meiamsome> Have two wifi dongles?
[17:35] <SirLagz> fred1807: I don't think you could do it with a phone unless the phone supported Blutooth PAN
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[17:37] <SirLagz> meiamsome: I only had one wifi dongle on mine
[17:37] <Rukus> the best settings for your pi 3 are found by studying this document. Pi's are intended equally, however Not all pi are built equally. https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/config-txt.md
[17:37] <SirLagz> though I haven't played around with the auto-broadcasting-pi since the Pi 1
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[17:38] <Zardoz> Rukus, you are not equally :P
[17:38] <Rukus> lol thats for sure
[17:38] <Zardoz> hehe
[17:39] <Rukus> hehe
[17:39] <Rukus> speaking of not equally, wheres my good friend Sonny_Jim ?
[17:39] <Zardoz> oh dear...
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[17:40] <SyncYourDogmas> fred1807: dns spoofing is easier
[17:40] <Rukus> Zardoz: xD
[17:40] * Zardoz notes the H in H4ndy is bigger now...
[17:40] <Rukus> is that like his afk?
[17:40] <fred1807> SyncYourDogmas: dns spoofing?
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[17:41] <Zardoz> Rukus, prolly alt nick
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[17:42] <Rukus> i saw him switch the other way around yesterday
[17:42] <Rukus> i think
[17:42] <Rukus> baha dont matter
[17:42] <Zardoz> Rukus, guess he goes both ways.
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[17:43] <Rukus> bazinga
[17:44] <SyncYourDogmas> fred1807: you know at airport wifis?
[17:45] <fred1807> SyncYourDogmas: no, but I am curiuous, what is the idea?
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[17:46] <SyncYourDogmas> basically you connect to wifi, no password
[17:46] <SyncYourDogmas> but you are always redirected to a login page
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[17:47] <SyncYourDogmas> once paid logged in etc, normal dns resumes
[17:47] <SyncYourDogmas> to begin with all urls point to the login page
[17:48] <SyncYourDogmas> alternatively in my old flat
[17:48] <SyncYourDogmas> we made all urls point to gay porn for one guy
[17:49] <fred1807> SyncYourDogmas: Ok... And that would be the wifi config page. But once the wifi is configured, how could I access this wifi config page again? Because I cannot serve web pages and connect to wifi network with the same antenna
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[17:49] <SyncYourDogmas> why not?
[17:50] <SyncYourDogmas> slow I suppose...
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[17:50] <SyncYourDogmas> I used to have three wifi adapters on my pi
[17:51] <fred1807> long story short: It is not possible to serve a php WIFI config page over blutooth form the raspberry ?
[17:51] <SyncYourDogmas> to accesss again, use the config url
[17:51] <SyncYourDogmas> its possible and a clever idea
[17:52] <SyncYourDogmas> its just bluetooth has a history of being shit and unreliable
[17:52] <SyncYourDogmas> a whole wifi setup..its worth trying
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[17:53] <fred1807> I dont want to add dongles, just use whats on the board
[17:53] <Sonny_Jim> There's always the idea of shorting out one of the GPIO pins to switch it into host AP/config more on boot
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[17:53] <SyncYourDogmas> ah these future pis
[17:53] <Sonny_Jim> You'd probably want the ESSID to be based on the MAC to avoid conflicts in a group pi situation
[17:54] <fred1807> Sonny_Jim: If the PI is to be touched I can just make a usbmount script to get the desired new wifi config from a inserted pen
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[17:54] <fred1807> grouped pis sounds like trouble in every scenario
[17:54] <Zardoz> Rukus, :p
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[17:55] <Rukus> yay!
[17:55] <Sonny_Jim> So there's way to just plug in a usb stick, boot and it'll run a script?
[17:55] <Sonny_Jim> And that's in raspbian?
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[17:55] <Rukus> password for a name
[17:55] <SyncYourDogmas> Sonny_Jim: want me to write you a script now?
[17:56] <SyncYourDogmas> its like 3 lines
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[17:57] <fred1807> Sonny_Jim: apt-get install ubsmount and you are done
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[17:58] <SyncYourDogmas> on pi b2 as well?
[17:58] <SyncYourDogmas> raspian
[17:58] <Zardoz> fred1807, I apt-get done all the time. it's great! :P
[17:58] <SyncYourDogmas> it shouldnt auti=omatically run a script though
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[17:59] <fred1807> autoMAGIcally
[17:59] <SyncYourDogmas> does it actually?
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[18:00] <fred1807> for example you can make it play a video of gummy bears flying over rainbows evertyime you insert a pendrive
[18:01] <Zardoz> what does that mean though.
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[18:02] <SyncYourDogmas> it means malware can autorun
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[18:04] <Zardoz> audorun malware ftw
[18:05] <SyncYourDogmas> just save a script locally
[18:05] <SyncYourDogmas> and ./script to run
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[18:10] <biberao> yo
[18:11] <fred1807> free your mind from windows 98
[18:11] <biberao> windows 98 is awesome
[18:12] <fred1807> windows 3.1 is awesome
[18:12] <Zardoz> 3.11 is better
[18:12] <biberao> 3.11 ya
[18:12] <biberao> but i still use win98
[18:12] <fred1807> 3.11 was the shit truly
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[18:12] <fred1807> the golden bill gates era
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[18:13] <fred1807> no, windows 95 and everything before was utterly garbage and bad taste
[18:13] <fred1807> *after
[18:13] <Zardoz> I still think win 2000 was the best ever
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[18:15] <supersmilers> Should I install raspbian and use Retropie script or just go straight to Retropie?
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[18:17] <Zardoz> supersmilers, I wonder what the difference would be...
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[18:17] <Rukus> supersmilers: i went stright to retropie with no issues in pi 2
[18:17] <SyncYourDogmas> whats retropie?
[18:18] <SyncYourDogmas> slimmed down?
[18:18] <Rukus> its a set of emulators to play games
[18:18] <SyncYourDogmas> ah
[18:18] <Zardoz> I guess if you had raspbian already loaded and did not want to bother with re-image.
[18:18] <Rukus> nintendo, etc
[18:18] <Rukus> anything ps2 and older i think
[18:18] <Rukus> maybe ps1 and older
[18:18] <SyncYourDogmas> might as well usepc for that imo
[18:19] <supersmilers> Well, I found that Retropie OS is missing some packages. And it doesn't let RetroArch to save configs
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[18:19] <Rukus> SyncYourDogmas: it works quite well actually
[18:19] <Sonny_Jim> SyncYourDogmas: fred1807 Oh, I thought you meant it was something installed by default
[18:19] <Sonny_Jim> Because it seemed like a bit of security issue otherwise
[18:19] <Rukus> supersmilers: oh, i guess i havnt experienced all the issues yet :)
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[18:20] <supersmilers> Well, does it support external HDD for all the Roms?
[18:20] <Rukus> i also installed osmc and installed retropie along side using a setup i found on github
[18:20] <Rukus> that worked fine, but i didnt get a chance to test before i sold it
[18:20] <Rukus> (a good friend wanted it)
[18:21] <Rukus> supersmilers: i didnt load anything on HDD, 2500 nes games takes up like 15mb
[18:21] <Rukus> anyway that a little ot
[18:21] <fred1807> Sonny_Jim: Man, if you want you can write yourself a script that will run whatever happens to dmesg output... It has nothing to do with the windows 95 concept of inserting an usb drive and getting a virus from a file named autorun.inf Even the usbmount package I told you, will only run stuff you want. Of course you can make it run every "autorun.sh" file localted on the inserte PEN, if you want to. Just like you could put a "rm -rf /" on cronta
[18:21] <fred1807> you wanted to
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[18:22] <Rukus> whats rm -rf do?
[18:22] <Rukus> j/k
[18:22] <Zardoz> hah
[18:23] <SyncYourDogmas> is it just automounting usbs?
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[18:23] <supersmilers> I'm planning to build an Arcade like those 90's machines with Pac-Man, Galaga, Dig Dug, original Donkey Kong, etc.
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[18:24] <Sonny_Jim> fred1807: Yeah I didn't understand what you were getting at.
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[18:25] <Zardoz> mmm, no wonder I am hungry
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[18:26] <supersmilers> Which brand of CRT good for the MAME Cabinet?
[18:26] <Sonny_Jim> Well ideally
[18:26] <Roonix> supersmilers, you going with a vertical screen?
[18:26] <Sonny_Jim> You want to not use a Pi, as it can't do 15kHz output, can't run recent versions of MAME
[18:27] <Zardoz> Hyperspin!
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[18:27] <Rukus> Sonny_Jim: what is the 15khz output? sound?
[18:27] <Sonny_Jim> No
[18:27] <Zardoz> no
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[18:27] <supersmilers> Well, I'm going for 25" size
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[18:28] <Roonix> 15KHz? is that what old arcade machines were? didnt know that
[18:28] <Rukus> thats an old school refresh rate?
[18:28] <Sonny_Jim> That's the horizontal dot clock, not the refresh
[18:28] <Zardoz> most old crt was 15k
[18:28] <Rukus> ohh
[18:28] <Rukus> this is if you really wanna be retro?
[18:28] <Zardoz> amigas run at 15k
[18:29] <Sonny_Jim> If you want MAME to look exactly like the old boards do, you run it with a 15kHz CRT and use either modified gfx card drivers under Windows or just run Linux
[18:29] <Roonix> i had an Amiga :D
[18:29] <Rukus> oh ok thx man
[18:29] <Roonix> A600
[18:29] <Zardoz> thats part of the resign why they did broadcast video so well.
[18:29] <supersmilers> I think I'm going with 4:3 CRTs.
[18:30] <Rukus> so playing nintendo on my pi to my 120hz TV isn't quite the same look as retro.
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[18:30] <Sonny_Jim> No, that's refresh rate
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[18:30] <Rukus> i'll have to read up on this, i know i obviously dont fully understand
[18:30] <supersmilers> Well, I got Galaga to run without bugs on my Android phone
[18:31] <Sonny_Jim> supersmilers: Bear in mind that the only analogue video out on the pi is composite, which isn't great quality
[18:31] <supersmilers> I have 2B
[18:31] <Zardoz> Roonix, been upgrading this a1200 http://imgur.com/eLYQQf8
[18:31] <Rukus> so this is like 240 vertical lines of resolution
[18:31] <Sonny_Jim> I don't know of many 4:3 CRTs that have digital inputs
[18:31] <Rukus> err
[18:32] <supersmilers> And I'm going with HDMI ->DP->DVI
[18:32] <Sonny_Jim> You've got a CRT that'll take DVI?
[18:32] <Zardoz> Rukus, go to youtube, and look up channel my gaming life.
[18:32] <Rukus> k
[18:32] <Rukus> i think i understand
[18:33] <Rukus> its not = refresh rate
[18:33] <Zardoz> Sonny_Jim, some pro displays
[18:33] <supersmilers> I used to but I'm sure some CRT monitors are DVI
[18:33] <Sonny_Jim> Nope
[18:33] <Sonny_Jim> Think about it
[18:33] <Sonny_Jim> A CRT is an analogue system
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[18:33] <Roonix> Zardoz, nice, whats that red part there? My dad threw my old amiga away :( gunna get one, just need to decide which one :D I kinda like the idea of getting an A600 like old times, but not too sure yet
[18:33] <Sonny_Jim> So you aren't gaining anything from a DVI signal, as you'll need to convert it to analogue to display anyway
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[18:34] <Sonny_Jim> There's very few that do
[18:34] <Sonny_Jim> If you are thinking of a DVI->VGA adapter, that's something different
[18:34] <Zardoz> Roonix, scan doubler / flicker fixer
[18:34] <Sonny_Jim> DVI has some pins which are VGA compatible
[18:35] <Sonny_Jim> But in any case, if you want to use a CRT, I would highly advise getting a cheap PC and running GroovyMAME
[18:35] <supersmilers> My old XP computer have a CRT style Monitor. My parents gave it away few years back to recycling center
[18:36] <supersmilers> It took DVI
[18:36] <Sonny_Jim> yes, but see my previous comment
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[18:36] <Sonny_Jim> Some pins on the DVI connector are VGA
[18:37] <Sonny_Jim> (disclosure: I used to work at a high-res LCD manufacturer for ATC)
[18:37] <Sonny_Jim> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface
[18:37] <Rukus> Sonny_Jim: so tube tv's are 15khz?
[18:37] <Sonny_Jim> " Featuring support for analog connections, the DVI specification is compatible with the VGA interface."
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[18:38] <puzzola> TIL why DVI > VGA adapters are noticeably less expensive than HDMI > VGA
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[18:40] <myke> also why some hdmi to vga have power jacks
[18:41] <supersmilers> I wonder if the Galaga can run on the pi with original bugs like in the '81 version. The one on my phone have no bugs
[18:42] <Sonny_Jim> The version of MAME on the Pi is an old version, by several years now
[18:42] <Sonny_Jim> It's because the MAME devs focus on accuracy over emulation speed and aren't overly interested in support ARM platforms
[18:43] <supersmilers> RetroArch can run all newer MAME if you use Linux buildbot for assests
[18:43] <Sonny_Jim> even still, I don't think the Galaga driver has changed much over those years
[18:43] <Sonny_Jim> What version? Because we are up to 0.172 now
[18:43] <supersmilers> It did on my pi. It gotten to .37
[18:44] <Sonny_Jim> Like I said, that's several years old now
[18:44] <Sonny_Jim> Feb 2001
[18:45] <Sonny_Jim> Again, I'll reiterate, a cheap $200 2nd hand PC with GroovyMAME is by far the better choice if you want to run a CRT
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[18:45] <supersmilers> All I did is set the build bot to armhf and it got 2003 and the SVN builds
[18:45] <puzzola> For
[18:45] <Sonny_Jim> Again, that's over a decade old by now ;)
[18:46] <supersmilers> Yea. Even RetroArch on Windows is on 2003 and SVN and it ran Galaga great
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[18:46] <Sonny_Jim> That's my point, later versions have upped the emulation accuracy, so it runs slower
[18:46] <puzzola> For MAME, you'd probably just have to find the ROM dump with the original bugs still in it. Shouldn't be hard, because accuracy :)
[18:47] <Sonny_Jim> Last time I compiled and ran MAME was last year and even with a simple game it got less than 1fps
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[18:48] <supersmilers> Well, I wonder if libretro is no longer maintaining MAME builds...MAME64 is continually maintained.
[18:48] <puzzola> ...And of course, purchase a board on ebay so it's legal (please don't ban me)
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[18:50] <Sonny_Jim> They'll maintain them, but it'll be a fork based on a very old version
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[18:52] <iKarith> supersmilers: There's two reasons for that. First, MAME doesn't work very well on ARM. The Pi 3 is the only system that it's likely to even approach working well. This is because MAME isn't really about playing games--which is bizarre I know, but it's true.
[18:53] <iKarith> supersmilers: MAME 0.73 is kinda about the point when MAME was really well-suited to machines of the performance of the average Pi.
[18:53] <RoBo_V> SyncYourDogmas: Did you saw that file
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[18:55] <iKarith> Issue #2 is more RA specific. RA does things a certain way, and if you don't do it their way, they'll just use lots of words I can't repeat in this channel to describe you, your code, your project, etc. This rubs people the wrong way. Especially in a project like MAME which has some pretty strong and strongly opinionated (in the same kinds of ways) people involved.
[18:56] <iKarith> Basically, MAME has absolutely _zero_ interest in even trying to work with RA even a little bit, and RA has _zero_ interest in working with MAME on MAME's terms.
[18:56] <supersmilers> Ah.
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[18:57] <iKarith> I used to think RA's API was, or at least should become, the basis of a standard for emulation cores to abstract out the UI and be used anywhere.
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[18:57] <supersmilers> So, I'm better of buying XP PC Towers for MAME?
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[18:59] <supersmilers> Well, I'm on low budget.
[18:59] <iKarith> It isn't, and it never will be. Not because of the tech, but because of the project management. The emu "scene", particularly console emulation, is full of moderately good coders who think they're hot shtuff and that everyone else is a warm turd. And their code is as bad as everyone else's really. So it's hard to get people on the same page. And I eventually concluded it won't happen with RA. :(
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[19:00] <iKarith> I'd still like to see it and I still think it's needed. I have hopes for OpenEmu, but they're not really trying to make standards, just make it work on a Mac.
[19:02] <iKarith> But all that's beside the point. The real issue with MAME is that it's meant for fairly current Core i5 and i7 chips. It isn't meant for ARM. They're actually doing stuff like emulating analog sound circuits at the voltage level
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[19:03] <Sonny_Jim> Who is RA?
[19:03] <Sonny_Jim> oh RetroArch
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[19:04] <Sonny_Jim> iKarith: If you think the emu scene is bad, try the TAS bot scene
[19:05] <Sonny_Jim> I dipped my toe in that with a Pi based SNES TAS Bot and boy, was it an eye opener
[19:05] <Sonny_Jim> Totally get what you are saying about hot sctuff coders treat anyone else as a warm turd
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[19:13] <RoBo_V> anyone can help.. dns and everything is working but rpi-update network error this http://paste.debian.net/439744/
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[19:16] <Sonny_Jim> can you ping api.github.com?
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[19:17] <RoBo_V> yes I can
[19:17] <RoBo_V> ping google dns and github anything
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[19:21] <Sonny_Jim> Odd
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[19:50] <synthstutter> exit
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[20:04] <emilio189> xD
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[20:13] <Roonix> Wow someone made a home-made graphics card for the Amiga, pretty cool https://github.com/mntmn/amiga2000-gfxcard
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[20:40] <RoBo_V> ok there is problem everytime to try to edit /etc/resolv.conf it goes back to default after reboot.
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[20:41] <BurtyB> RoBo_V, iirc it has a warning at the top to say where to edit it now
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[20:43] <RoBo_V> it says generated by resolvconf
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[20:46] <BurtyB> RoBo_V, ah yeah it's /etc/resolvconf.conf then
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[20:50] <RoBo_V> Hey guys had this rpi-update network problem http://paste.debian.net/439744/ but strangely dns was working later found out wrong name server was there at resolv.conf
[20:51] <Sonny_Jim> bizarre
[20:51] <Sonny_Jim> I thought you said you could ping api.github.com?
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[20:52] <RoBo_V> yes I can but adding nameserver at resolv.conf resolved the rpi-update problem I got 4.4/7 kernel now
[20:52] <RoBo_V> yes bizzare btu worked IDK
[20:54] <RoBo_V> resolvconf genearting that file at every boot and adding my gateway as default nameserver.
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[20:55] <RoBo_V> I commented that out and added nameserver 8.8.8.8 name server 8.8.4.4 and it worked. Updated rebooted now resolv.conf is back to orignal form.
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[20:55] <meiamsome> Are you on a network that requires authentication in-browser before access is granted?
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[20:57] <RoBo_V> meiamsome: no
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[21:02] <Bilby> damn!
[21:02] <Bilby> VMware website started working
[21:02] <Bilby> went to get card to buy upgrade
[21:02] <Bilby> by the time i got back... broken
[21:03] <Bilby> whoops, wrong channel <_<
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[22:20] <ChunkzZ1> oh. my. god.
[22:21] <Sonny_Jim> Yes?
[22:21] <ChunkzZ1> who was it who said to get the evo+?
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[22:22] <Sonny_Jim> Not me
[22:22] <ChunkzZ1> well whoever it was, is a genius.
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[22:23] <Sonny_Jim> What's an evo+?
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[22:24] <ozzzy> isn't it a Mitsubishi?
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[22:34] <ChunkzZ1> evo+ microsd card. XD
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[22:37] <Vrooom> hi, is there any 3d demo scenes for pi?
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[22:38] <Valduare> Vrooom: like for sketchup?
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[22:40] <Vrooom> Mah
[22:40] <Vrooom> Nah
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[22:41] <Vrooom> I guess it is very similar to screensaver
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[22:44] <xamindar> has anyone done 802.11s with raspberry pi?
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[22:45] <kubast2> Hey ,how to start with GPIO ?
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[22:46] <meiamsome> kubast2: how good is your programming?
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[22:46] <kubast2> I'm fine with python
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[22:47] <kubast2> importing modules ,using them ,some while loops and if/elif/else statements
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[22:48] <meiamsome> you looked at RPi.GPIO? https://pypi.python.org/pypi/RPi.GPIO
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[22:53] <sdlnv> Hi, is there any reason on why should I buy a male or female header for a raspberry pi zero? A female one looks more versatile for prototyping purposes on a breadboard... opinions?
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[22:55] <meiamsome> you could buy female w/ long legs (called stackable sometimes), then you have both :D
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[23:05] <ChunkzZ1> my bad, proxy wasn't on.
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[23:05] * Sonny_Jim wonders what a female header is
[23:05] <Sonny_Jim> Headers are always male in my world
[23:08] <myke> they are?
[23:08] <gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, so what do you call the things on an arduino?
[23:08] <myke> i've done both
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[23:09] <Sonny_Jim> I've never looked at an Arduino
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[23:09] <Sonny_Jim> Got a pic?
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[23:20] <synthstutter> hey, how can I run a command as sudo on startup? I want to run a python script that uses the picamera when the device powers on
[23:22] <Aerik> Using a cronjob would probably be your best bet
[23:23] <myke> or rc.local if you only need it once at bootup
[23:23] <Aerik> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
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[23:24] <Aerik> Using @reboot instead of a time and day in the cronjob will do that
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[23:24] <taza> Is using the SD Formatter (from the SD foundation) still useful under Windows 10?
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[23:25] <Zardoz> taza yes
[23:25] <taza> So still no native aligning?
[23:25] <taza> Or just for the filesystem stuff?
[23:26] <taza> Guess I'm booting to the admin account and grabbing it. Ehh.
[23:26] <taza> I've still got my gen1 pie
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[23:27] <Zardoz> taza, you can also use diskpart.
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[23:27] <taza> Yeah but do I have to align by hand in Win10?
[23:27] <Zardoz> dont know
[23:28] <taza> Using the formatter without trouble under Win10?
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[23:29] <Zardoz> I had no issue but now I use raspi
[23:29] <Zardoz> or diskpart
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[23:30] <taza> ... you are aware that you need to align partition boundaries to the native SD hardware, right?
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[23:30] <Zardoz> taza, nope
[23:30] <taza> SD chunks are of a specific size, and a chunk being shared between two partitions makes everything slower than it could be.
[23:31] <Zardoz> taz
[23:31] <Zardoz> taza, you have somtning about that?
[23:31] <taza> So you need some MAGIC to have SD's work right, and Win7 didn't have that magic inbuilt.
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[23:31] <taza> Meanwhile the SD Foundation's SD Formatter has the MAGIC required.
[23:31] <Zardoz> mmm sounds like mobojobo to me
[23:31] <taza> SD Association's, rather
[23:32] <taza> Well you're just plain wrong.
[23:32] <Zardoz> give me somtning to back thar
[23:32] <Zardoz> that
[23:32] <taza> I don't have to.
[23:32] <Zardoz> wothless then...
[23:32] <taza> You can dig into the specs yourself.
[23:32] <nmschulte> I'm getting started w/ RPi, particularly w/ the MIPI/CSI interface and RPi Camera module. I'm looking for documentation about the software used to access the RPi Camera: general system overview, and feature-completeness w/ respect to the camera used in the module. Does anyone know where I can find this information?
[23:33] <taza> Anyway, does anyone actually know if the SD Association's SD Formatter is useful in Win10-land?
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[23:33] <Zardoz> taza, look for it yourself :P
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[23:33] <taza> Zardoz: You didn't read what I said, and kept going on for ten minutes, being entirely wrong the whole time. I don't feel you deserve the respect of being considered someone worth listening to.
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[23:34] <ChunkzZ1> lol
[23:34] <nmschulte> I'm aware of the userspace github (raspistill/raspivid/...) repo, and the datasheet for the camera/board. I'm also aware of the MMAL/OpenMAX IL stack, and that somehow the GPU is involved in the out of the box config, but nothing that paints the picture well.
[23:35] <taza> Aligning partition boundaries isn't some weird science, it's something the RPi linux-side tools do automatically, but Windows had some quirks about that.
[23:35] <taza> And I don't know if Windows 10 fixed the quirks or not.
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[23:35] <Zardoz> taza, and i don't think you deserve the help anymore. I asked for you to provide information so I can read it and learn something then you tell me to pound sand. it goes both ways....
[23:36] <taza> Shush
[23:36] <taza> You didn't help me at all.
[23:36] <taza> I don't want your "help" when it consists of you getting upset I call you out on not having the necessary knowledge.
[23:36] <taza> I'm just placing you on ignore now.
[23:36] <Zardoz> lol
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[23:36] <Zardoz> did I not tell him I did not know?
[23:37] <Zardoz> jezzz ok.....
[23:37] <warpie> ignore him..
[23:37] <warpie> just be you, Zardoz
[23:38] <taza> He could y'know first make sure he understands the question being asked. That'd make him far less likely to be ignored.
[23:39] <taza> Aaanyway I was asking if anyone's using the SD Formatter from the SD Association under Windows 10.
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[23:40] <warpie> not me.
[23:41] <warpie> I use winimager32
[23:41] <warpie> very reliable
[23:41] <Encrypt> I use dd
[23:41] <Encrypt> Very reliable :3
[23:42] <taza> Well so do I, but dd does a very different job than the formatter
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[23:42] <warpie> then after I boot in Raspbian, it auto expands to SD cards capacity
[23:43] <taza> It does, it even checks the partition boundaries. I should know.
[23:43] <NeoMatrixJR> anyone out there running kodi with live live tv using an hdhomerun tuner? Having problems getting everything set up.
[23:43] <taza> That's not what I'm asking about, but keep talking.
[23:43] <warpie> ok
[23:43] <NeoMatrixJR> mostly problems getting hdhr working...not so much a kodi thing
[23:44] <warpie> I bet plugwash, shiftplusone, or [Saint] would know
[23:44] <taza> ...
[23:44] <taza> No, I doubt they would.
[23:45] <warpie> ok, how about niston
[23:45] <Sonny_Jim> Know what?
[23:45] <taza> You listed two Linux people, and one, uh.
[23:45] <warpie> prolly the best bet is to go to #windows and ask
[23:45] <taza> Another one for the ignore list.
[23:46] <niston> im not a linux people, foo
[23:46] <Zardoz> lol
[23:46] <Encrypt> :')
[23:46] <Encrypt> Ignore the chan then
[23:46] <niston> :P
[23:46] <Encrypt> It will be faster
[23:46] <warpie> lol
[23:46] <Zardoz> lmao
[23:46] <taza> No but both plug and shift are.
[23:46] <Encrypt> Seriously... :'')
[23:46] <niston> interesting I can find nothing about this partition boundary thing w/ regard to wintendo 10
[23:47] <myke> win10 is gpt isn't it?
[23:47] <taza> Sonny_Jim: I'm asking if anyone's reset SD cards to FAT32 with the SDFormatter under Win10 - if that works, or if Win10 has fixed the native.
[23:47] <Zardoz> btw from what I have been readying I will say no it has not been fixed in 10
[23:47] <myke> so the first 8k are the label
[23:47] <warpie> lol, wintendo... lol
[23:47] <Sonny_Jim> No idea
[23:47] <Zardoz> reading that is
[23:47] <Sonny_Jim> I just use dd
[23:47] <taza> myke: For SD cards, no.
[23:47] <taza> Sonny_Jim: Yeah so do I, but I want to build something w/ fat32
[23:47] <Sonny_Jim> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdcard bs=1k count=512
[23:47] <Sonny_Jim> Or something like that
[23:47] <Zardoz> but I am on ignore.
[23:47] <Sonny_Jim> Then just format it as FAT32
[23:47] <niston> except this http://reboot.pro/topic/20675-formattingpartitioning-a-sdsdhc-card/
[23:47] <myke> all the images i looked at had an 8k label
[23:47] <myke> uboot just fishes for its signature somewhere in that 8k
[23:48] <taza> Thing is, formatting it as fat32 doesn't work right under Windows 7 native formatter
[23:48] <warpie> sweet, niston
[23:48] <Sonny_Jim> I've saved quite a few SD cards with dd that wouldn't format under windows
[23:48] <taza> And I don't know if Win10 fixed that, or if SDFormatter works.
[23:48] <niston> "So we want those operations to be efficient. If the allocation data starts on a NAND FLASH page boundary, a given allocation map write is less likely to span two pages, so the FTL gets to do things the "easy" way, which is faster and causes less NAND wear. If the cluster size is a power-of-two multiple of the NAND FLASH page size and the first cluster is aligned on an erase block boundary,
[23:48] <niston> cluster writes are similarly "easy"."
[23:48] <myke> i think netbsd or freebsd didn't even bother putting the partition in the mbr
[23:48] <taza> Well yeah W7's inbuilt SD card handling was broooken.
[23:48] <niston> and "Conversely, if the layout is bad, every cluster write might "split" two pages, forcing the FTL to perform four internal I/O operations instead of one."
[23:48] <taza> I can just use gparted and manually align, but eeeugh. Fiddly.
[23:49] <taza> Or I could install W7 on a spare system
[23:49] <myke> i'm actually genuinely curious about win10 on a pi now
[23:49] <taza> niston: Yerp, you've found the topic at hand.
[23:49] <[Saint]> Wow taza, who pissed in your cornflakes this morning hun?
[23:49] <[Saint]> Jeez.
[23:50] <niston> taza: I suspect windows 10 doesnt care
[23:50] <taza> Well y'know I get grumpy when people tell me information that is wrong.
[23:50] <taza> niston: So do I, which is why I'm also asking if anyone's already done the work of testing this for me.
[23:50] <taza> I can always boot up a W7 machine if it comes down to it.
[23:50] <taza> That requires swapping in the hard drive with W7 on it tho so that's a bit of a lot of work.
[23:51] <Zardoz> yeah it's my fault I am a dumb sob
[23:51] <[Saint]> And then the people who do have valid information to offer, don't, because of the aforementioned 'being a bit of a douche canoe'.
[23:51] <[Saint]> So I guess you win huh? :)
[23:51] <myke> who in here yday was asking for people to test win10?
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[23:51] <taza> [Saint]: I'd gladly take silence.
[23:52] <taza> Especially if it comes to you giving me "advice" like that.
[23:52] <niston> [Saint]: what is a douche canoe?
[23:52] <taza> Which, let's face it, is just insults. Again.
[23:52] <[Saint]> taza: I'm sorry, I can't see where I offered any advice at all.
[23:53] <niston> bah, dishwasher requires another 35 mins :/
[23:53] <taza> Okay, fair, you just ran in and insulted me, which, to be fair, is exactly what I expected you to do.
[23:53] <taza> So y'know.
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[23:54] <marcelod> hi there
[23:54] <niston> taza: I'd recommend to use that sdformatter, just to be safe
[23:54] <taza> Yeah, but I wonder if it works under W10 natively.
[23:54] <niston> marcelod o/
[23:54] <taza> It does under W8, so probably yes, but "handling weird SD hiccups" is a thing people do here routinely.
[23:54] <niston> taza: couldn't tell, no info to be found about it
[23:56] <taza> It's basically an embedded thing to begin with, nowhere else you care about block aligning that doesn't just have a "format" button.
[23:56] <warpie> taza..... I am going to boot my win 10 now, and see if it will format a SD card...
[23:57] <mfa298> taza: reading scrollback, you're in a channel about a specific linux distro asking a windows question and then wonder why your getting bad reactions. Especially as block alignment is a more specialist thing as well.
[23:57] <taza> No.
[23:58] <taza> This is #raspberrypi
[23:58] * GenBurnside (~GenBurnsi@209.208.228.244) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[23:58] <taza> It's about all Raspberry Pi, and formatting SD cards properly so they don't have a performance impact is definitely a thing that belongs here.
[23:58] <myke> it's sdcard, performance is already gonna be garbage, networked filesystem will be faster for anything performant
[23:58] <taza> myke: I know that, but I don't want it to be even worse.
[23:59] <niston> mfa298: the channel you are referring to would be #raspbian, I think
[23:59] <marcelod> taza, what is the problem? (just joined)
[23:59] <myke> taza: you're putting linux on it?
[23:59] <taza> marcelod: I'm wondering about fat32 and block alignment.
[23:59] <marcelod> what about it?
[23:59] <niston> taza: this issue is only of relevance with multiple partitions on the card?

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