#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2016-05-04

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[17:07] <GRiZL0C> i dont like raspbian. Ubuntu mate is far more feature ready out of the box. anyone agree?
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[17:07] <shiftplusone> What's "feature ready" what are you missing?
[17:08] <yoosi> GRiZL0C: Depends on what you're looking for in a distro
[17:08] <GRiZL0C> all kinds of settings and menu items
[17:08] <Sonny_Jim> No
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[17:08] <Sonny_Jim> Did you install Raspbian Lite by any chance?
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[17:08] <shiftplusone> We could add random menu items, but I don't think that's the point of a distro.
[17:08] <Sonny_Jim> It's not really a desktop machine either
[17:09] <Sonny_Jim> As a linux box, it has pretty much everything I need. Although I don't think vim is in there by standard, nor screen :\
[17:09] <shiftplusone> much debate was had internally about adding vim
[17:09] * Sonny_Jim shrugs
[17:09] <Sonny_Jim> Anyone who needs it can just install it
[17:10] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> GRiZL0C, just you.
[17:10] <Sonny_Jim> Hell, if you know how to use vim, then you know how to install it ;)
[17:10] <gordonDrogon> vim-tiny is fairly normal and - well, somewhat cut-down, but usable.
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[17:10] <shiftplusone> Yup, given its size and how easy it is to install, it was left out
[17:10] <shiftplusone> but honestly, that logic could apply to many other packages which are installed by default and I think shouldn't be there, but there are reasons they're there, I guess.
[17:10] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> ubuntu mate even on the pi 3 is slow. for me anyway. I like EVERYTHING nice and fast. GRiZL0C
[17:11] <Sonny_Jim> Because emacs?
[17:11] <shiftplusone> nuh, nano all the way
[17:11] <Sonny_Jim> Actually, I don't know anybody who uses emacs
[17:11] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> I refuse to pay £24 just for a pi case -.-
[17:11] <Draylor> sounds like you need to meet smarter people ;)
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[17:11] <Sonny_Jim> Build one out of lega
[17:11] <mfa298> I did meet an emacs user once, he tried to convert us all but it didnt work
[17:11] <Sonny_Jim> *lego
[17:12] <methuzla> GRiZL0C, different people use pi in different ways. i've never even attached a monitor to any of my pis. so actually, i like raspbian lite.
[17:12] <GRiZL0C> i have 2 64GB micro sd cards one with mate the other raspbian so i can enjoy from both os's do you guys think 64GB is big enough as a raspberry pi 3 linux box?
[17:12] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> I have the offician cases Sonny_Jim but I want my pi's stacked :/
[17:12] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> official*
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[17:13] <gordonDrogon> I've used vi since ...well forever. Part of a job involed porting emacs to a new system. I had to port a vi-clone first...
[17:14] <Sonny_Jim> Isn't there one in busybox?
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> GRiZL0C, 4GB is big enough - depends what you want to store on it.
[17:14] <Sonny_Jim> Ok, here's a question
[17:15] <Sonny_Jim> What's the difference between the following
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[17:15] <Sonny_Jim> which file |cat
[17:15] <Sonny_Jim> cat `which file`
[17:15] <methuzla> what shell?
[17:15] <Sonny_Jim> bash
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> the first just prints the path. the second gives you the contents of the file.
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> what are you trying to do?
[17:16] <Sonny_Jim> Someone asked me why the first way wasn't doing what they wanted, so I offered them the backtick version
[17:16] <Sonny_Jim> But I couldn't explain why the other one worked ;)
[17:17] <gordonDrogon> it's not a good commands sequence - it'll hapily dump a binary file to stdout.
[17:17] <Sonny_Jim> Well, it was just an example of a | and `` command
[17:17] <Sonny_Jim> The actual command was something else
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[17:18] <Sonny_Jim> So | doesn't pass STDOUT?
[17:18] * Sonny_Jim scratches head
[17:18] <gordonDrogon> I never said that.
[17:18] <mfa298> they key is understanding what the back ticks and the pipe do.
[17:18] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah that's what I'm trying to do ;)
[17:18] <mfa298> you might get the same as the backticks version with 'which file | xargs cat'
[17:19] <Lonefish> has anyone a foolproof way to disable screensaver on the pi? I've edited the autostart in /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE AND .../LXDE-pi with the noblank/off/-dpms options, edited /etc/kbd/config with blanktime and powerdown, didn't work. I installed x11-xserver-utils because someone said it worked when they installed that, I swear I saw the adjustments in "xset q" after the install, but now they're gone again (back to 600 timeout and
[17:19] <gordonDrogon> the pipe operator (|) is plumbing - it causes the left-hand program's output to be fed into the right-hand programs input. (stdout -> stdin)
[17:19] <gordonDrogon> backticks happens at the shell command expansion stage - it executes the command and then put the output of the command back into the command-line.
[17:19] <Sonny_Jim> ah I see
[17:20] <gordonDrogon> that happens before the commands to the left & right of it are executed.
[17:20] <gordonDrogon> echo "I am here `pwd`"
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[17:21] <Sonny_Jim> Yup, stdin != command arguments
[17:21] <Sonny_Jim> gotcha
[17:21] <gordonDrogon> the cat command (concatenate and print) just copies input to output.
[17:21] <SyncYourDogmas> mfa298: could delete the binary for the screensaver
[17:21] <gordonDrogon> it seems like a null command but it has its uses.
[17:22] <Lonefish> SyncYourDogmas: I guess that was pointed to me?
[17:22] <SyncYourDogmas> sorry didnt see it
[17:22] <gordonDrogon> some programs do different things when output is not to the terminal. e.g. try ls then ls | cat
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[17:22] <stevie86> Hi!
[17:23] <Lonefish> how would I do that tho?
[17:23] <SyncYourDogmas> cat - works too I think
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[17:23] <SyncYourDogmas> Lonefish: ls /usr/bin | grep x
[17:24] <SyncYourDogmas> see what its called
[17:24] <stevie86> Can anyone please help me? A friend wrote a script for me that converts XML files to text files that can be sent using SMStools. But I need it to write a logfile of what it does... can anyone help me to modify that script?
[17:24] <gordonDrogon> once upon a time: cat file1 file2 file3 | pr -m | lpr ..
[17:24] <mfa298> better bet would be to try removing the package for it if you can. Just deleting a binary means it will re-appear when the package is updates
[17:24] <methuzla> stevie86, pastebin script
[17:25] <Lonefish> SyncYourDogmas: maybe screensaver was a wrong term, it's the blanking that I want to stop
[17:25] <stevie86> just a sec
[17:25] <Lonefish> I haven't installed any screensaver, it's default raspbian behaviour
[17:25] <SyncYourDogmas> thats still the screensaver I think
[17:26] <SyncYourDogmas> or x actually. hang on i'll look myself
[17:26] <Lonefish> It's Xsession behaviour as far as I can find..
[17:27] <Lonefish> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=57552
[17:27] <Lonefish> This is the thread I used, but alas, no luck.
[17:27] <mfa298> Lonefish: it may be something you can set in the X config files, but it's been a long time since I've done anything with X
[17:28] <Lonefish> You can set it in LXDE/autostart, which I did
[17:28] <Lonefish> but it doesn't get through for some reason
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[17:29] <Lonefish> Either way. It'll be something for next monday.. Weekend starts today.. Thanks tho mfa298 and SyncYourDogmas
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[17:30] <SyncYourDogmas> no worries..
[17:30] <SyncYourDogmas> ask again and it shoulndt be hard to get rid of
[17:31] <Lonefish> See ya
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[17:32] <stevie86> http://pastebin.com/PkgwHiba this is one of the scripts...
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[17:34] <stevie86> and this is the second: http://pastebin.com/Ad96CP1k
[17:34] <methuzla> oh. perl. i can't help.
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[17:34] <stevie86> or we could find another approach
[17:34] <stevie86> it doesn't have to be perl
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[17:34] <stevie86> i just need a way to convert XML Files to another format
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[17:35] <stevie86> and i need it to write a log file what has been done
[17:35] <methuzla> what is the 'other format' ?
[17:36] <mfa298> stevie86: you've probably got all you need to be able to add writign a log file to those scripts, open the logfile, print lines to it, then close it.
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[17:36] <mfa298> or better you could look at including something like syslog
[17:37] <stevie86> I'll provide 2 sample files
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[17:39] <mfa298> stevie86: I'd highly recommend learning to do it yourself. It sounds like you wnat to add something really simple, and those perl scritps are written in a very easy form to read/understand
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[17:42] <stevie86> OK, I'll try it myself
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[17:44] <amazoniantoad> I've got a web interface that runs on localhost, I tried using iptables to open it up to my local network. port scanned the device and the port isn't open. Anyone have any ideas on what to do?
[17:45] <mfa298> amazoniantoad: you may need to configure the software to listen on the main network interface (lots of things are configured to listen on by default which is only accessible on the local machine)
[17:46] <amazoniantoad> mfa298, the software is bitsync. Supposedly it is accessible on the network by default as per the instructions found: http://blog.bittorrent.com/2013/05/23/how-i-created-my-own-personal-cloud-using-bittorrent-sync-owncloud-and-raspberry-pi/
[17:46] <amazoniantoad> Don't know if I can modify the binary
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[17:47] <amazoniantoad> And no, I'm not using it for storage. Just convenience for some software I'm writing lol.
[17:47] <amazoniantoad> I don't want to constantly scp
[17:47] <mfa298> you can use 'sudo netstat -nltp' to see what tcp ports things are listening on and what address they're bound to
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[17:48] <mfa298> by default raspbian doesn't have any iptables rules so that shouldn't block access from the local lan (you can check the rules easily with 'sudo iptables -nvL'
[17:49] <amazoniantoad> mfa298, yeah definitely just listening on localhost. Any ideas other than modifying the binary? I could have sworn there was a way to forward the connections to localhost if you opened it for the network
[17:49] <amazoniantoad> mfa298, yeah I installed iptables
[17:50] <mfa298> I'd have thought the address it binds to is going to be specified in a config file or on the command line, Otherwise you'll need the source to edit and then re-compile
[17:50] <amazoniantoad> what-a-pain
[17:50] <amazoniantoad> lol
[17:50] <amazoniantoad> No config file either :/
[17:50] <amazoniantoad> Thanks mfa298
[17:50] <mfa298> if it's a change you need to make in the source that sounds like really bad design.
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[17:51] <amazoniantoad> mfa298, normally the software I come across isn't designed for linux and they always just slap together some crappy release for linux
[17:51] <mfa298> you might be able to do something in iptables with a nat rule, although it's not something I've ever tried.
[17:51] <amazoniantoad> Lacks most features, etc.
[17:51] <amazoniantoad> mfa298, I've run into this situation before. That's what I did. But it has been so long
[17:52] <direkt> zzzz
[17:52] <mfa298> find better software then, there's lots of things designed for linux
[17:52] <amazoniantoad> Good idea lol
[17:53] <SyncYourDogmas> amazoniantoad: fuse or sftp might work out better for you?
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[17:53] <SyncYourDogmas> or ssh and forward x11
[17:53] <amazoniantoad> Well, here is what'
[17:53] <amazoniantoad> what's happening*...
[17:54] <amazoniantoad> So, I am making some p2p software and I don't want to make a git or commit any files. I'd rather just seamlessly save them on one computer. So that means no sftp.
[17:54] <amazoniantoad> x11 could work though...all I need is the interface for a moment
[17:54] <amazoniantoad> what's the browser program raspberry pi runs?
[17:55] <SyncYourDogmas> iceweasel
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[17:55] <amazoniantoad> I'll try it out, one sec.
[17:55] <amazoniantoad> thanks
[17:56] <SyncYourDogmas> or write a script that automatically syncs one folder to a remote one..if it saves to the same folder I'll quickly write it
[17:56] <amazoniantoad> SyncYourDogmas, don't bother yourself. Thanks though
[17:56] <amazoniantoad> I appreciate it. So how do you launch iceweasel from terminal?
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[17:57] <mfa298> if you only need to access the web interface from one machine you could always use ssh tunnels
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[17:58] <amazoniantoad> i'm just going to install firefox
[17:58] <amazoniantoad> oh wait...no I won't
[17:58] <trompstomp> Hi all. I was wondering if a tool similar to raspi-config existed for Arch
[17:58] <SyncYourDogmas> amazoniantoad: its only a couple lines..and iceweasel &
[18:00] <amazoniantoad> SyncYourDogmas, success!
[18:00] <amazoniantoad> now I can keep working
[18:00] <amazoniantoad> Thanks guys!
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[18:01] <SyncYourDogmas> amazoniantoad: cool, what is it btw? sounds interesting?
[18:02] <amazoniantoad> Hehe I came up with a predictive model for values in the stock market
[18:02] <amazoniantoad> Lots of data to process though
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[18:02] <amazoniantoad> So I'm coupling p2p networking with heterogeneous processing
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[18:02] <amazoniantoad> Don't have much hardware at my disposal so I'm using what I have
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[18:03] <SyncYourDogmas> if you ever need a partner ;)
[18:03] <amazoniantoad> Haha! Well I'm testing it out on penny stocks for now.
[18:03] <amazoniantoad> But I went ahead and made a distributed database
[18:04] <amazoniantoad> It's all in pure python (because python is fun)
[18:04] <SyncYourDogmas> well give me a shout if you do :)
[18:04] <amazoniantoad> haha all right. I'll keep that in mind
[18:05] <Chillum> predictive modelling of the stock market works great
[18:05] <Chillum> until something changes
[18:05] <amazoniantoad> Chillum, well my model assumes the market is rigged. Which, I have proof that it is.
[18:05] <amazoniantoad> So, mine just rides off of the rigged parts of the system
[18:06] <amazoniantoad> Well, observes it
[18:06] <Chillum> if you host it in the cloud, you can get it to pay its own server costs automatically
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[18:06] <Chillum> from its profit
[18:06] <amazoniantoad> Chillum, I like doing things the hard and stupid way
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[18:06] <amazoniantoad> No fun in doing it the easy way lol
[18:07] <SyncYourDogmas> it does sound interesting
[18:07] <amazoniantoad> Haha thanks
[18:07] <SyncYourDogmas> succcessful or not
[18:07] <amazoniantoad> Yeah
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[18:07] <amazoniantoad> These will be interesting results nonetheless
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[18:16] <stevie86> OK, right now the script only writes to console.... how do i redirect that to a file? Plus how do I add further output, when a file is completed or cannot be processed or else
[18:18] <Habbie> stevie86, hi
[18:18] <Habbie> stevie86, i can probably help but i did not read anything before this line :)
[18:18] <Habbie> stevie86, what do you have?
[18:18] <SyncYourDogmas> the easy way? script > file.txt
[18:18] <Habbie> indeed
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[18:19] <stevie86> Hi! I have a perl script
[18:20] <Encrypt> stevie86, If you want to learn a bit of BASH, this is a good book: http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Phrasebook-2nd-Developers-Library/dp/0321833880
[18:20] <stevie86> http://pastebin.com/PkgwHiba
[18:20] <Encrypt> That's how I started
[18:21] <Encrypt> It looks that you already know a big part though (<.<)
[18:21] <shiftplusone> Encrypt: is it good for people who already know stuff?
[18:21] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, Well, now that much, yeah...
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[18:22] <Encrypt> But I read: <stevie86> OK, right now the script only writes to console.... how do i redirect that to a file?
[18:22] <shiftplusone> doing a lot of bash scripting lately and it would be good to pick up new tricks
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[18:23] <Encrypt> There are O'Reilly books about BASH
[18:23] <Encrypt> Might be worth it
[18:23] <SyncYourDogmas> eh
[18:23] <SyncYourDogmas> python would be a better choice imo
[18:23] <stevie86> oh shit
[18:23] <stevie86> i cannot just run this script on windows... not working
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[18:24] <SyncYourDogmas> paste it and ill turn it into python windows if you want
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[18:29] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, This could be useful for you:
[18:29] <Encrypt> http://www.kfirlavi.com/blog/2012/11/14/defensive-bash-programming/
[18:29] <Encrypt> I follow these guidelines personally
[18:30] <Encrypt> That's how I did: https://github.com/Encrypt/basl :D
[18:30] <Encrypt> My BASH IRC bot too
[18:30] <Encrypt> And currently my MSc Project
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[18:33] <LuckyPie> good news, the pi zero boots
[18:34] <SyncYourDogmas> Msc in bash? christ
[18:34] <Celerity> I don't even have a pi zero
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[18:37] <shiftplusone> Encrypt: thanks, some useful tips there.
[18:37] <Encrypt> Yes :)
[18:38] <Encrypt> SyncYourDogmas, Meh
[18:38] <Encrypt> It's basically an invocation of commands
[18:38] <SyncYourDogmas> ah a nonfunctional programming language then :P
[18:38] <SyncYourDogmas> whats it on out of interest?
[18:39] <Encrypt> I'm playing with PostgreSQL + Libprotoident (Deep Packet Inspection software) + probably LaTeX
[18:39] <Encrypt> The subject is "User profiling based on network activity"
[18:39] <LuckyPie> is postgresql compliant with mysql commands?
[18:39] <SyncYourDogmas> ah nice, never heard of Libprotoident and Ive done a lot of networking stuff
[18:39] <Encrypt> Hum, that's different
[18:40] <SyncYourDogmas> no its not I dont think
[18:40] <Encrypt> SyncYourDogmas, It's the best free DPI tool existing it seems
[18:40] <Sonny_Jim> Interesting
[18:40] <Encrypt> It's even better than DPI since it does "LPI" (Light Packet Inspection)
[18:40] <Encrypt> It only uses the first bytes of each packet to determine the application used
[18:40] <SyncYourDogmas> Openflow isnt bad, or scapy in python
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[18:41] <Encrypt> http://research.wand.net.nz/software/libprotoident.php
[18:42] <mfa298> LuckyPie: mysql and postgresql are both sql databases (as are various others), but they do things slightly differently
[18:43] <LuckyPie> mfa298: A lot of people seem to prefer postgresql now
[18:44] <Encrypt> I'll soon publish my code on GitHub regarding my project
[18:44] <Encrypt> I'll ping you once it's online :P
[18:44] <SyncYourDogmas> Encrypt: looks like I'll be playing with it
[18:44] <Encrypt> mfa298, That's what we used when I learnt how databases work
[18:44] <SyncYourDogmas> mind showing just an example capture? cant see on on the site
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[18:45] <mfa298> LuckyPie: I think postgresql is a bit closer to the SQL standards, but I think a lot og people have found mysql to be easier to learn
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[18:47] <LuckyPie> yes mysql is quite simple. Moving the database around seems like a nightmare though
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[18:47] <LuckyPie> to a different system for instance
[18:47] <LuckyPie> at least that is what I found
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[18:47] <LuckyPie> No idea if postgresql is better in that regards
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[18:48] <SyncYourDogmas> its more advanced Ive heard
[18:48] <SyncYourDogmas> but harder to use
[18:49] <mfa298> well in mysql you normally just ues mysqldump, unless your DB is big, but then there are other tools for that and you'll probably be talking to people who specialise in it at that point
[18:50] <mfa298> and there are similar things in postgresql as well
[18:51] <Encrypt> SyncYourDogmas, It is really in early stages of development, but here is what I have for now: http://pastebin.com/6Q6L1tfR
[18:52] <Encrypt> That's quite messy for the moment and there are a lot of TODOs
[18:52] <LuckyPie> I had some issues simply changing the standard path of the DB in mysql when installing
[18:52] <LuckyPie> even though the permissions seemed to check out
[18:53] <LuckyPie> So I just learned to leave it in the standard path
[18:53] <LuckyPie> Also had a dumb moment trying to install a mysql DB to an NTFS drive
[18:54] <SyncYourDogmas> Encrypt: projects always are. nice that it reads pcap files
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[18:54] <Encrypt> What is cool with bash is that it's particularly useful in my case knowing tht I am basically calling programs, it consumes almost no memory (thank you UNIX pipelines) and in a few lines of "active" code I am doing things that would have required thousands of lines in C
[18:55] <Encrypt> with a few lines*
[18:55] <Encrypt> s/thousands/hundreds also :P
[18:56] <LuckyPie> does anyone else have a pi zero?
[18:56] <SyncYourDogmas> same with python :) https://github.com/JamesWKerr/4thYearProject/blob/master/MyController.py
[18:56] <yoosi> LuckyPie: I have a Pi Zero
[18:56] <LuckyPie> nice!
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[18:56] <LuckyPie> yoosi: have you done anything awesome with it yet?
[18:57] <yoosi> I built an IRC activity indicator light from a broken Minecraft Redstone ore block and a Pi Zero
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[18:57] <LuckyPie> no way!!!
[18:58] <LuckyPie> that is awesome
[18:58] <yoosi> it parses my ZNC logs on my Pi 2 and makes the ore glow based on how long ago the last message was
[18:58] <yoosi> Thanks
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[18:58] <LuckyPie> I can't wait to do something with the pi zero
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[18:59] <LuckyPie> I am going to attempy to turn the pi zero into an SD card reader
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[19:00] <LuckyPie> so you don't have to fiddle arround with usb sticks / wifi
[19:00] <LuckyPie> one fat32 partition which can be accessed by a pi , or a pc
[19:00] <LuckyPie> at least that is the idea ... like an android phone in mass storage mode
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[19:01] <LuckyPie> pretty boring ,, but useful :3
[19:01] <Sonny_Jim> Encrypt: Comparing BASH script to C is a bit disenginous ;)
[19:02] <Encrypt> I compare the result :P
[19:02] <Sonny_Jim> May as well compared Perl to X
[19:02] <LuckyPie> my toaster runs bash
[19:02] * LuckyPie the moment one realises that he is speaking to IRC bots
[19:02] <LuckyPie> ???
[19:03] <Encrypt> And BASH is so cool that even Windows 10 has integrated it! :P
[19:03] <Sonny_Jim> Can you write a graphics card driver in BASH?
[19:03] <LuckyPie> Encrypt and Sonny_Jim are you guys B,O ts?
[19:03] <Encrypt> Sonny_Jim, Yeah, I see what you mean
[19:03] <Encrypt> Obviously, I would use C for that
[19:03] <Encrypt> LuckyPie, Yes :x
[19:04] <LuckyPie> but that was the real you?
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[19:05] <Encrypt> <LuckyPie> but that was the real you? / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QRgKbDsVGU
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[19:08] <SyncYourDogmas> Encrypt: Mind if I convert that to python and use it? I'll give you credit. you can use whatever from my project
[19:08] <Encrypt> SyncYourDogmas, Yep, of course, use it! :)
[19:09] <Encrypt> SyncYourDogmas, In fact, I haven't published it on GitHub yet because I'm wondering how I should call it x)
[19:09] <Sonny_Jim> A fairer comparison would be BASH, Perl and Pyton
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[19:09] <Encrypt> Sonny_Jim, Yeah, I agree
[19:10] <SyncYourDogmas> Encrypt: you can change project names in github :P
[19:10] <Encrypt> Yeah :]
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[19:10] <Encrypt> SyncYourDogmas, And also, it's not that clean for a first commit x)
[19:11] <SyncYourDogmas> githubs not for perfect code
[19:11] <Encrypt> Once I can correctly and cleanly insert the result of lipbrotoident on a dataset, I'll do my first commit
[19:11] <SyncYourDogmas> not *just* for perject code
[19:12] <Encrypt> Later, I plan to add options (getopts <3) or even an intuitive interface using whiptail
[19:12] <SyncYourDogmas> I planned that. ended up took 3 seperste bash scripts to get it to start
[19:12] <Encrypt> I have to say that I woul get my inspiration from raspi-config :3
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[19:15] <Encrypt> SyncYourDogmas, Yeah, I know but I prefer having clean code there :P
[19:15] <Encrypt> I really plan to use it as a kind of CV too
[19:16] <Encrypt> Ane extension to my CV
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[19:16] <SyncYourDogmas> I do, for research they dont care. I'll convert it now and link it back to you..
[19:16] <Encrypt> Ok :p
[19:17] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah it's quite a normal thing to put a link to your github on your CV now
[19:17] <SyncYourDogmas> they'll find it themselves
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> If only mine wasn't stuffed full of stupid projects like "IRC to Quakeworld Gateway" lol
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> Depends if you use your IRL name or a nick
[19:18] <Sonny_Jim> Heh, that reminds me. So much fun kicking someone in a channel by hunting them down in Quake and fragging them ;)
[19:18] <Encrypt> Ah ah x)
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[19:20] * Encrypt , meanwhile studying computer security (<.<)
[19:20] <Encrypt> I don't see myself staring at logs generated by an IDS in the future x)
[19:20] <SyncYourDogmas> pcap_name pcap_md5 timestamp
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[19:20] <SyncYourDogmas> what does that do?
[19:21] <swift110> hey all
[19:21] <Encrypt> (IDS = Intrusion Detection System)
[19:21] <SyncYourDogmas> and you dont, you filter them
[19:21] <LuckyPie> Encrypt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYzRY2XpLBk
[19:21] <Sonny_Jim> Hack the gibson
[19:21] <LuckyPie> Encrypt: do you have knowledge of aliens and UFOs?
[19:21] <LuckyPie> :)
[19:21] <Encrypt> SyncYourDogmas, The idea here is to store information about the dataset in a table of the database
[19:22] <Encrypt> SyncYourDogmas, So that the user doesn't add duplicates / to allow him to delete a particular processed PCAP
[19:22] <Encrypt> LuckyPie, Nope :P
[19:23] <LuckyPie> Is that what the aliens told you yo say? :O
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[19:23] <SyncYourDogmas> I mean where is the assignment?
[19:23] <Encrypt> SyncYourDogmas, The value is assigned below
[19:24] <LuckyPie> music break : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d27gTrPPAyk
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[19:24] <Encrypt> SyncYourDogmas, Just as in other languages, I tend to declare my variables at the beginning so that I know what I am working with
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[19:25] <SyncYourDogmas> ah alright cheers
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[19:29] <SyncYourDogmas> you would like C
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[19:32] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Simone here having magical mirror running on a pi2?
[19:33] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> https://github.com/MichMich/MagicMirror/tree/v2-beta
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[19:38] <Encrypt> LuckyPie, Music Break approved!
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[19:48] <jrg> wonder if a pi v2 can handle OpenOffice or libreoffice.
[19:49] <jrg> ill try one when i get home and see what happens. i need something to use as like. a status display for something.
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[19:52] <shiftplusone> jrg: it should, but it depends on what you actually need. DOn't expect slideshows with smooth transitions, videos and such, but it's good enough for basic documents.
[19:52] <jrg> yeah. i just need a slideshow. transitions dont matter much.
[19:53] <shiftplusone> I would expect that there are better ways to approach this.
[19:53] <shiftplusone> But yeah, give it a go
[19:54] <Habbie> jrg, a status display? will you be updating the file all the time or something?
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[19:56] <jrg> yeah probably.
[19:56] <shiftplusone> I generally hate it when people use the browser instead of real applications, but in this case, that would be more sensible.
[19:56] <jrg> akin to a flight screen.
[19:56] <Habbie> HTML sounds more appropriate, yes
[19:56] <Habbie> and that would definitely work with the pi2
[19:56] <Habbie> (or a chromecast, fwiw)
[19:57] <jrg> heh. well ill try a few things out when i get time. i have a couple spare Pi laying arounf.
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[19:58] <TheLostAdmin> How does an openoffice document work as a status display? Aren't those usually automated with frequent updates?
[19:59] <shiftplusone> I am guessing jrg knows something we don't and there's a component that can be used to fetch and display data or something.
[19:59] <Habbie> you would need some kind of reloading, yes
[19:59] <pksato> 1985 Pop-up Book: Inside the Personal Computer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWYweAUikis
[20:00] <jrg> shiftplusone: could always just use ncurses.
[20:00] <TheLostAdmin> or possibly he works at a company I used to work for. For some reason the executive had what they called a "dashboard" which was a spreadsheet that middle management filled out based on input from the people who reported to them. Where I worked most of it was somewhat technical and should have been automated.
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[20:01] <SyncYourDogmas> programmatically convert to latex documents and show them :)
[20:01] <jrg> lol
[20:01] <jrg> emacs has a plugin that does that.
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[20:03] <SyncYourDogmas> theres command line tools. would actually be smoother imo
[20:04] <jrg> you would think open or libre would have a meabs to display a presentation from the command line
[20:05] <jrg> and just set up cron to reload it
[20:05] <jrg> *means
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[20:05] <SyncYourDogmas> yeah theyre just bulky
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[20:06] <jrg> yah they are. but speed isnt that big of a deal so long as it works and displays it.
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[20:07] <SyncYourDogmas> fair enough
[20:08] <Habbie> jrg, they probably do
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[20:09] <jrg> Habbie: yeah. i know they have quite a bit you can do woth the command line tools to convert etc
[20:09] <jrg> with
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[20:20] <Sonny_Jim> <3 Ashens
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[20:30] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> why is it so hard to find actual good cases for the pi2/3 :/
[20:31] <matthias-> if you find one - let me know
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[20:31] <lif> hmm, I changed my samba password with sudo smbpasswd -a pi and now it doesn't let me access the share anymore from windows with the new password. what did I do wrong :S
[20:31] <shiftplusone> what's not good about pibow coupe?
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[20:32] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> pibow coupe shiftplusone ?
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[20:33] <shiftplusone> ChunkzZ-ZNC: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/pibow-coupe-for-raspberry-pi-3
[20:33] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> ahh, a case. I want something so I can stack. everything I've saw is expensive
[20:33] <matthias-> What are you stacking it for ?
[20:33] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> yeah, I want to stack a pi2/3 and a zero.
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[20:34] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> so it looks half decent, the cases I have now aren't the best...
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[20:35] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> £12 each time I want to add 2 pi's and it's just a case. expensive to me that is.
[20:36] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> but...
[20:36] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> I'm tight. :p
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[20:37] <GenteelBen> You should consider building a BTC mining rig using RPis to fund this lavish spending of yours.
[20:38] <matthias-> ChunkzZ-ZNC: link?
[20:38] <Habbie> GenteelBen, you mean increase this lavish spending :)
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[20:39] <matthias-> GenteelBen: heh i took a gpu accelerated cluster from work home
[20:39] <matthias-> to mine
[20:39] <matthias-> unfortunately power spike meant i lost work data ;-)
[20:40] <matthias-> Im still recovering from it ;d
[20:41] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> GenteelBen, no point wasting money.
[20:41] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> hence why I use my pi 3 as a desktop. it does the same as my desktop.
[20:41] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> :p
[20:41] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> movies and web browsing. just need a proper case...
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[20:41] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> see, I'll probably have to wait until pay day and order the £12 one. but, I don't want to. sigh.
[20:41] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> :)
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[20:43] <TheLostAdmin> Make you own case, ChunkzZ-ZNC. I used a dollar store wooden treasure chest (small box). Cut a few holes in it, a little wood stain, some varnish, and presto. A nice computer case for a Pi.
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[20:45] <SyncYourDogmas> I just dont use cases...
[20:45] <TheLostAdmin> I considered that. Although chunk was concerned about the look of the case, so I think he wants one.
[20:47] <SyncYourDogmas> good reason
[20:48] <matthias-> ChunkzZ-ZNC: link to the £12 case
[20:48] <TheLostAdmin> My Pi sits on a bookshelf. The small wooden box is far less out-of-place than an exposed computer board would be.
[20:51] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> TheLostAdmin, I wouldn't know where to start.
[20:51] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> matthias-, modmypi raspberry pi stack
[20:52] <matthias-> ah seen those too
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[21:32] <synthstutter> hey, I want to test how long my raspberry pi will run off a battery while recording off of the picamera. Is there a file I can write to on linux that will just keep deleting as its written to?
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[21:33] <shiftplusone> 'deleting as it's written to'?
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[21:34] <synthstutter> yeah like a file that doesn't actually store anything
[21:34] <SpeedEvil> synthstutter: you should not write to SD cards when the power is unreliable.
[21:34] <SpeedEvil> synthstutter: Also - your battery does have undervoltage cutoffs to avoid damage to the battery?
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[21:35] <synthstutter> yeah, its one of those cell phone backup battery chargers
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[21:36] <synthstutter> I actually have to power 2 raspberry pi's with a picamera each and 8 LEDs total
[21:36] <synthstutter> the battery has 20,000 mA
[21:36] <SpeedEvil> That's going to be around an amp.
[21:36] <BurtyB> shiftplusone, you could just regularly "touch" a file and then look at the time it was last changed
[21:36] <SpeedEvil> And I'm betting it's not 20Ah.
[21:37] <SpeedEvil> There are a number of systematic errors as well as flat out lies.
[21:37] <SpeedEvil> 20Ah will typically be the capacity of the battery, so will be around 15Ah@5V
[21:38] <mfa298> synthstutter: if you don't actually want to do anything with the data you can write to /dev/null
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[21:39] <synthstutter> mfa298: ah, okay that sounds about right
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[21:42] <TooLmaN> Hi Guys. RPi.GPIO. I have a GPIO.add_event_detect(...callback...) statement. It only triggers the callback once. If the button is pressed again, it does not get detected. Any ideas?
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[21:45] <CyberTails> Hey There, For when I boot up my Pi 3, it shows a Giant Rainbow Square, Is that Normal?
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[21:45] <shiftplusone> CyberTails: does it go aaway?
[21:46] <CyberTails> Yes after like 2-3 seconds
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[21:48] <SpeedEvil> SyncYourDogmas: Or stream to an external PC
[21:48] <shiftplusone> CyberTails: then it's fine, it's there for diagnostics. You can disable it in config.txt if you really want.
[21:50] <CyberTails> Okay thank you
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[21:50] <Phosie> It's when it pops up in the corner during normal use that you have a problem
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[21:51] <CyberTails> Okay, how do I disable the bootup square in config.txt?
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[21:56] <shiftplusone> I'd have to google that
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[22:32] <SyncYourDogmas> back
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[22:36] <swift110> hooray I dont have to reimage my sd card after all
[22:37] <swift110> it was the screen at fault lol
[22:37] <swift110> hooray
[22:37] <swift110> Also, I have a five inch screen for the pi as well
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[22:40] <jrg> alrighty then. let me go ahead and install raspbian on this thing
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[22:43] <Mittendeep> how many simultaneous connections can a samba share handle at a time?
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[22:45] <rgb-one> Hey
[22:45] <Mittendeep> browsing while i am transferring using the explorer shell is painfully slow, i think it might be because there are too many simultaneous connections
[22:45] <rgb-one> Does Raspbian use NetworkManager?
[22:46] <shiftplusone> Mittendeep: without further information, 42. https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages/smb.conf.5.html#MAXCONNECTIONS
[22:46] <rgb-one> as the default network manager?
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[22:46] <shiftplusone> rgb-one: not by default. The official image uses dhcpcd.
[22:46] <rgb-one> Ah
[22:46] <shiftplusone> but of course you can use whatever you want if you configure it appropriately.
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[22:46] <Mittendeep> shiftplusone: thank you.
[22:46] <ali1234> that's a pretty big if
[22:46] <rgb-one> shiftplusone: Does it use systemd?
[22:47] <shiftplusone> by default
[22:47] <ali1234> since jessie, yes
[22:47] <rgb-one> cool
[22:49] <rgb-one> How would you connect dhcpcd to a WPA2 Enterprise network? have you tried it?
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[22:49] <ali1234> sounds like a job for wpa-supplicant, however i'm not entirely familiar with "enterprise" WPA2
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[22:52] <mfa298> it shoudl be do-able with wpa-supplicant, although I cant remember the syntax you need.
[22:52] <rgb-one> Ah, is wifi-menu installed on Raspbian?
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[23:00] <Mittendeep> Is a program like filezilla pretty much required if you are trying to transfer files over a wireless intranet connection? I can't trust explorer to not hang/crash, winSCP just hung too.
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[23:01] <mfa298> hmmm I regularly use winscp over a wifi network
[23:01] <mfa298> maybe you need better wifi
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[23:04] <Mittendeep> I can get 3 megabytes a second downloading from outside of my network, but when i am transferring from my pc to my pi i am getting ~800k a second
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[23:06] <Sonny_Jim> I've found the quickest method was using FTP
[23:06] <lif> any idea what's the max bandwith you can expect from the Raspberry Pi 3 Model B wifi in real life usage?
[23:07] <Sonny_Jim> Should work fine if it's just intranet
[23:07] <Sonny_Jim> iirc the bus is limited to ~40MB/s
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[23:07] <Mittendeep> The SCP protocol encrypts traffic and adds CPU overhead on the pi's end that can be a bottleneck, same with sftp iirc
[23:07] <Sonny_Jim> But it'll need to transfer it twice as the USB shares the same bus as SD
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[23:07] <Mittendeep> Okay, that makes sense.
[23:07] <Sonny_Jim> So ~20MB/s ish?
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[23:08] <lif> oh, it shares the same bus :/
[23:09] <Mittendeep> I am sending the file from my pc, to my wireless router, to the pi, then the receiver and the external hard drive share the same bus, also the SD card
[23:10] <Mittendeep> If there is too much stuff going on at the same time that bus can end up dropping packets, right?
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[23:11] <mfa298> I thought the Pi3 wifi was on it's own SDIO bus, not shared with anythign else - althoguh I'm not sure what speed that runs at
[23:14] <mfa298> quick iperf test gave me 40Mbit/s in one direction and 50Mbit/s in the other
[23:15] <mfa298> which seems reasonable for 802.11n on 2.4GHz
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[23:20] <Mittendeep> Filezilla just lost it's connection, the message given was "software caused connection abort". Do you think that means filezilla or the ftp host service?
[23:20] <Mittendeep> Luckily it reconnected and resumed uploading the file, but if that was part of a queue in explorer i would be SOL
[23:21] <Mittendeep> I only have a wifi dongle and an external hard drive with an external power supply attached to my model 1 pi btw, my power adapter is 1500ma too, so i shouldnt have to worry about brown outs.
[23:23] <mfa298> On a Pi1 you might be hitting cpu limits rather than anythign else.
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[23:24] <Mittendeep> its a pretty steady transfer at 800 kbps using sftp, I was able to transfer 700 megabytes before the connection dropped this time. ill see how much is transferred when it drops again next.
[23:25] <mfa298> you may want to ssh into the pi at the same time and see what the cpu/io/memory load is like.
[23:25] <mfa298> there may also be some useful logs
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[23:27] <Mittendeep> what command should I use? I'm a total linux newbie.
[23:28] <mfa298> htop is probably the easiest to get information out of for cpu/memory you mgiht need to isntall it first (sudo apt-get install htop)
[23:28] <Encrypt> Mikelevel, ssh <user>@<IP address>
[23:28] <Encrypt> Mittendeep, *
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[23:28] <Encrypt> Mittendeep, And then, something like top (or htop -- sudo apt-get install htop)
[23:29] <mfa298> vmstat and iostat can be more useful but you need to be able to interpret the output
[23:30] <Mittendeep> ~50% cpu steady
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[23:32] <Encrypt> Mittendeep, Tools like rsync are able to automatically resume a transfer if there is a problem
[23:32] <Encrypt> If I remember well
[23:33] <Sonny_Jim> Mittendeep: You could use something like hjsplit to split the file up into more manageable chunks
[23:33] <Encrypt> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/48298/can-rsync-resume-after-being-interrupted
[23:33] <Mittendeep> Ecrypt: I'm just gonna leave it up to filezilla atm, it has a nice gui and i am transferring from a windows environment anyways.
[23:33] <Encrypt> Ok :)
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[23:34] <Mittendeep> Ecrypt: Thank you though!
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[23:52] <swift110> hey guys
[23:52] <Encrypt> Hey swift110
[23:52] <swift110> Hooray I got to use my new screen with my Pi today
[23:52] <Encrypt> \o/
[23:52] <swift110> how are you Encrypt
[23:52] <Encrypt> Fine and you? :)
[23:52] <swift110> great
[23:52] <swift110> especially now
[23:52] <Encrypt> Eh eh :P
[23:53] <swift110> so much more convienient to use the pi with a mini screen for when I go places
[23:53] <exonormal> sweet
[23:53] <exonormal> how is it working?
[23:53] <swift110> the touch doesn't work
[23:53] <exonormal> aww, sorry
[23:54] <exonormal> maybe needs drivers
[23:54] <swift110> lol I thought the screen was scratched but it actually is the plastic film
[23:54] <swift110> lol you just remind me of that
[23:54] <swift110> I forgot all about that
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[23:55] <exonormal> lol, cool
[23:56] <exonormal> hope it works ok.. if not let me know so I can get replacement
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