#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2016-05-05

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

[0:00] <swift110> i was playing with it a bit
[0:00] <swift110> I forgot my keyboard though
[0:00] <exonormal> nice
[0:00] <exonormal> yeah, is the touch working now?
[0:00] <swift110> I am just glad I didnt have to reimage my sd card
[0:00] <exonormal> good
[0:00] <swift110> I haven't installed the drivers yet but I will be doing that shortly
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[0:01] <exonormal> ok cool
[0:01] <exonormal> I hope it is ok
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[0:04] <swift110> I had an idea
[0:04] <swift110> I can install teamspeak onto my pi
[0:04] <exonormal> many have done that.
[0:04] <swift110> genious
[0:05] <swift110> so today install drivers for touch. teamspeak
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[0:05] <swift110> Oh and I have another project I am dying to try as well
[0:05] <swift110> ill be right back gotta get that keyboard
[0:06] <exonormal> ok
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[0:17] <swift110> ok back
[0:17] <swift110> this is going to be awesome
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[0:22] <exonormal> nice
[0:22] <exonormal> hope it works out for you..
[0:23] <swift110> i do too
[0:23] <swift110> took pictures of it I will be posting soon
[0:23] <swift110> ok first things first teamspeak
[0:23] <exonormal> keep trying and don't give up hope
[0:23] <swift110> then drivers
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[0:24] <exonormal> good
[0:26] <swift110> is that lol i meant teamviewer
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[0:26] <exonormal> ok... np
[0:26] <exonormal> I understand
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[0:26] <swift110> i am refreshing package lists right now
[0:27] <swift110> meanwhile I will search for the drivers
[0:27] <exonormal> right on...
[0:30] <swift110> ok not able to locate the package
[0:30] <jrg> well... that's odd
[0:30] <jrg> i installed raspbian... then did an apt-get update upgrade
[0:30] <swift110> im in raspian noobs
[0:30] <jrg> and now it won't start the wm heh
[0:30] * jrg scratches his head
[0:30] <exonormal> wm?
[0:31] <jrg> i just see a cursor randomly blinking on the top left
[0:31] <jrg> exonormal: windowmanager
[0:31] <swift110> I will run update real quick
[0:31] <jrg> not really sure what raspbian runs.. lxde maybe?
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[0:31] <exonormal> yes
[0:31] <swift110> i should have done this somewhere with quicker internet
[0:31] <jrg> but yeah. it looks dead
[0:31] <exonormal> redo the update
[0:31] <jrg> i can't manage to get it to stop doing whatever it is that it is doing to get to a terminal
[0:32] <exonormal> reboot
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[0:32] <jrg> tried that
[0:32] <jrg> odd
[0:32] <jrg> i just started from scratch so it really isn't that big of a deal
[0:32] <exonormal> ok reimage the SD card
[0:32] <jrg> but it sure isn't normal to upgrade the pkgs and have it not start lxde properly
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[0:33] <jrg> yeah i'm going to do that now
[0:33] <jrg> and try to upgrade it again and see if it does it again
[0:33] <jrg> it was running fine before the upgrade
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[0:35] <jrg> guess maybe i shoudl check the pi settings to make sure something like turbo isn't enabled
[0:35] <jrg> i'm guessing SD corruption is still a thing on a pi ?
[0:35] <exonormal> yes
[0:35] <exonormal> it can happen
[0:35] <jrg> maybe some OC or turbo is enabled by default or something
[0:36] <swift110> aww man
[0:36] <exonormal> now what?
[0:36] <swift110> screen got a bunch of vertical lines on it
[0:36] <jrg> i never had major issues with a slight OC but the turbo usually manages to be an issue
[0:36] <exonormal> sorry
[0:36] <swift110> roast turkey sandwich
[0:36] <exonormal> shut it down and reboot
[0:37] <swift110> teamviewer should be in the repos
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[0:37] <swift110> i tried to run it in terminal
[0:37] <jrg> teamviewer? is that some vnc for a shared desktop?
[0:37] <exonormal> did you research the display before you tried to use it?
[0:38] <swift110> i found it youtube
[0:38] <exonormal> ok cool..
[0:38] <mlelstv> teamviewer is shared desktop via web interface
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[0:38] <swift110> it works for a while then trips out
[0:38] <swift110> ill see what can be done
[0:39] <SyncYourDogmas> have you tried ssh -X>
[0:39] <SyncYourDogmas> or tmux?
[0:39] <exonormal> I see... well I hope it works out.. otherwise let me know and I'll order another one for you
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[0:43] <swift110> SyncYourDogmas, please don't bring up ssh or tmux right now
[0:43] <swift110> I tried to get help with that and all people did was confuse me terribly
[0:43] <swift110> i am running update right now
[0:44] <jrg> alrighty. just re-installed
[0:46] <jrg> hm
[0:46] <jrg> guess it's 700MHz by default
[0:46] <jrg> seems like it is more of an issue with the raspbian update than anything else
[0:47] <jrg> is there something special that has to be done to update it? or is apt fine?
[0:48] <exonormal> what pi you have, jrg?
[0:48] <jrg> let me update from the pkg manager and see what happens. although.. i can't see that having any different an effect... i'm sure it just calls apt
[0:49] <jrg> v2 512MB
[0:49] <jrg> the pkg updater says all my packages are upt to date but apt does not
[0:49] <exonormal> ok that handles raspbian..
[0:49] <jrg> so running apt isn't the norm?
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[0:50] <exonormal> ok do this... apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get update.
[0:51] <jrg> with the , ?
[0:51] <exonormal> now what?
[0:51] <swift110> just did upgrade
[0:51] <jrg> as in make it go back to back in one line? like apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade ; apt-get upgrade ?
[0:52] <exonormal> no, one at a time, dear...
[0:52] <swift110> I had to resize the terminal window to see if it was done
[0:52] <exonormal> nice, swift110
[0:52] <mfa298> there's no point doing the last apt-get update, just update then upgrade
[0:52] <jrg> why would running it twice help?
[0:52] <jrg> heh
[0:52] <exonormal> will you stoppit
[0:53] <exonormal> just do as I say so you will know the updates results are good
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[0:54] <mfa298> the 2nd update won't test that it went ok. All it does is download the current list of packages and their versions, which 99.9% of the time will be exactly the same as they were the first time.
[0:56] <exonormal> yes but at least the operator will see 0 upgraded, 0 updated... very handy info for users to know it's all done point blank period.
[0:56] <ali1234> jrg: did you expand the filesystem?
[0:56] <exonormal> good point
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[0:57] <ali1234> it tends to run out of space pretty fast if you don't
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[0:58] <jrg> no
[0:59] <jrg> at least not intentionally
[0:59] <jrg> unless apt installs something that does that by itself but that seems unlikely
[0:59] <jrg> all i did was fresh install. apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[0:59] <mfa298> except update doesn't say 0 upgraded, 0 updated, the only thing it will do is show that it didn't fetch any metadata on the 2nd run. And it will show the same if you do apt-get update, apt-get upadte, at which point you've not installed any updated
[0:59] <jrg> reboot
[0:59] <swift110> ok
[1:00] <exonormal> can you see how much space is on the SD card?
[1:00] <jrg> in a second i can .. it's still updating
[1:00] <exonormal> ok mfa298, I'll be quiet..
[1:00] <jrg> wishing i grabbed the ip off of it so i could ssh into it heh
[1:01] <ali1234> jrg: NOOBS or just the plain raspbian image?
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[1:02] <jrg> plain
[1:02] <jrg> just stock raspbian
[1:03] <ali1234> okay, you need to expand the filesystem to fill up the SD card before doing anything else
[1:03] <ali1234> you do that with raspi-config
[1:03] <ali1234> or rpi-config
[1:03] <ali1234> i forget what it's called
[1:03] <jrg> wtf lol
[1:03] <jrg> yah you guys are right
[1:03] <ali1234> i always forget to do it, and then run out of space
[1:03] <jrg> i guess the image leaves you with a 3.4GB partition with nothing else
[1:03] <ali1234> and tat tends to make every break in strange ways
[1:03] <ali1234> right
[1:03] <jrg> well.. didn't know that
[1:03] <ali1234> the shipped image has to fit any card
[1:03] <jrg> probably should have read up a bit more first lol
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[1:04] <ali1234> so they make it just big enough for the default stuff and a little bit extra so you can log in and expand it
[1:04] <jrg> well.. let me image it again and start from scratch and see about expanding the fs
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[1:06] <jrg> ali1234: thanks. sorry i didn't read up more.
[1:06] <jrg> is there some automagic script to run to expand the fs?
[1:06] <ali1234> it is one of the options in rasp-config
[1:06] <jrg> ah ok
[1:06] <ali1234> you can also do it by hand... it is quite easy if you know how to use fdisk
[1:06] <jrg> thanks. i'll do that once i boot it again. guess that solves my issue (hopefully)
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[1:07] <jrg> naw. i'll go ahead and use the config app
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[1:08] <jrg> i'm just setting this thing up to see if i can make it od a presentation with libreoffice heh
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[1:08] <ali1234> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/raspi-config.md
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[1:08] <ali1234> yeah you will definitely need to expand it for that, LO is huge
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[1:10] <jrg> yah.. .seems so... doing the apt upgrade ate it up very quickly
[1:10] <jrg> the image hardly has any space on the partition to begin with
[1:11] <swift110> hmm
[1:11] <swift110> if you install raspian with noobs its expanded automatically
[1:11] <ali1234> yes
[1:11] <swift110> i have a 32 gb sd card on here
[1:11] <jrg> i was about to ask. wonder why that isn't a first time boot option
[1:12] <swift110> i cant figure out why I can't install teamviewer
[1:12] <ali1234> well, it is supposed to show you raspi-config on the first boot
[1:12] <ali1234> according to the documentation
[1:12] <jrg> ali1234: it is? i didn't see it
[1:12] <jrg> it went straight to the wm
[1:12] <ali1234> that is unusual
[1:12] <jrg> or is that noobs?
[1:12] <jrg> i'm running stock raspbian
[1:12] <ali1234> perhaps, i have never used noobs
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[1:13] <jrg> oh... yah i iddn't see the config start on first boot
[1:13] <ali1234> and i always run headless anyway
[1:13] <jrg> it went straght to the wm
[1:13] <jrg> maybe it only does it in the lite version
[1:13] <mfa298> I've not seen raspi-config run on the jessie builds (it used to on wheezy though)
[1:13] <ali1234> yeah, and lite has only existed since jessie
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[1:13] <jrg> mfa298: ah ok. yah i'm running jessie
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[1:14] <jrg> OK! 3rd time is a charm heh
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[1:16] <swift110> ok how do I install teamviewer
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[1:22] <Java_> Hello. Epiphany just closes as soon as I open it. Any suggestions? :S
[1:23] <Java_> If I click a tab, it closes. If I enter a URL and press enter, it closes.
[1:23] <torchic___> oom
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[1:26] <ali1234> swift110: i don't think you can. isn't it proprietary? therefore i doubt they have ARM binaries for raspbian
[1:26] <exonormal> swift110: which raspbian you install?
[1:27] <ali1234> apparently you can run it in exagears, but that's going to be slow
[1:28] <jrg> alrighty
[1:28] <jrg> i'm up to 16GB now
[1:28] <jrg> that should be more than enough
[1:28] <exonormal> congrats
[1:31] <Polymorphism> anyone here own a commercial 3d printer?
[1:31] <exonormal> not me, but Barnes and Noble has one
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[1:32] <Polymorphism> they do?
[1:32] <Polymorphism> can you just go there and use it?
[1:32] <shiftplusone> If you're up for some breaking and entering
[1:32] <exonormal> if the one near you has one
[1:32] <shiftplusone> If you want to just use one without buying one, check your local hackerspaces
[1:33] <exonormal> most document and print shops have them/
[1:33] <ali1234> the rep rap clone kits are getting surprisingly affordable now
[1:33] <ali1234> i don't know how good they are though
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[1:34] <shiftplusone> My BQ Prusa i3 seems to do the job. Still need to tweak it to get the best results, but I am happy with how it works.
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[1:45] <swift110> exonormal, its raspbian noobs
[1:45] <swift110> installing krita right now
[1:45] <swift110> gimp and blender are on here already
[1:45] <abnormal> sweet
[1:46] <swift110> i should be able to plug in a webcam in here
[1:46] <swift110> lol
[1:47] <abnormal> that'll be real sweet
[1:47] <swift110> hmm
[1:47] <swift110> unknown-horizons and minetest is on here
[1:47] <swift110> minecraft comes preloaded
[1:47] <abnormal> yup
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[1:51] <swift110> yes i know
[1:51] <swift110> try minetest
[1:51] <swift110> I will be installing tutorial
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[1:55] <swift110> i want more games lol
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[1:57] <abnormal> well install them
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[1:57] <swift110> hmm
[1:58] <swift110> \im searching packages
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[2:04] <abnormal> ok cool
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[2:12] <swift110> ok now I know how to go to root
[2:12] <swift110> ill do touch drivers tomorrow lol
[2:13] <abnormal> to go to root, sudo su
[2:13] <abnormal> have to key in password
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[2:15] <swift110> ifehacker.com/build-a-retro-gaming-table-on-the-cheap-with-a-10-ikea-1762899356?utm_source=taboola
[2:15] <swift110> awesome
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[2:19] <GeoBTC> Is this a support channel at all or just a discussion channel?
[2:19] <Berg> support
[2:19] <Berg> discussion
[2:19] <Berg> ideas
[2:19] <GeoBTC> awesome thank you
[2:19] <Berg> you name it
[2:19] <GeoBTC> just didnt wanna start asking questions and getting yelled at
[2:19] <Berg> nar
[2:20] <Berg> you can ask lots mfolks here to answer
[2:20] <GeoBTC> I am having a filesystem problem causing the filesystem to be mounted readonly
[2:20] <GeoBTC> I am trying to remount the fs rw but when I do nothing happens
[2:20] <shiftplusone> GeoBTC: It's a discussion channel as long as it's civil, not going to start a flamewar and not drowning out support questions.
[2:23] <GeoBTC> I did some google digging and found some posts saying that RPis can have filesystem errors if there is not enough power supplied to the RPi
[2:23] <GeoBTC> is there any way to check the input power to see if that is indeed my issue?
[2:23] <GeoBTC> or do I need to cut apart a cable and test with a multimeter?
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[2:24] <shiftplusone> You don't need to cut the cable, you can test it on the GPIO pins
[2:24] <shiftplusone> you just need to check the voltage, not current.
[2:24] <abnormal> google it and look for test points on the pi
[2:25] <shiftplusone> But, you the pi will generally tell you when you've got voltage trouble by flashing a rainbow square in the top right corner.
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[2:33] <jrg> well.. using the pi as a desktop now heh
[2:33] <jrg> it's actually not too bad. at least not as slow as i thought it would be
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[2:39] <shiftplusone> it's perfectly fine if you don't browse too much
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[2:42] <jrg> browse? oh heh.
[2:42] <jrg> yeah i'm sure it doesn't really render too well.. odd tho it comes with a gecko based browser out the box
[2:43] <jrg> you're not kidding. the browser is ridicullously slow
[2:44] <abnormal> use Eiphany
[2:45] <shiftplusone> depends on what you're doing
[2:45] <shiftplusone> youtube and other js-heavy sites with embedded video.... nuh.
[2:45] <jrg> shiftplusone: well.. mozilla based browsers always do seem to be a bit clunky
[2:45] <shiftplusone> forum and looking stuff up... great.
[2:45] <swift110> hmm
[2:45] <jrg> i never really noticed it until i used safari on the mbp heh
[2:45] <swift110> dude I will be playing with Blender on the pi 3
[2:45] <jrg> blender lol
[2:46] <swift110> I know its crazy but it must be done
[2:46] <Berg> cool
[2:46] <abnormal> cool, swift110
[2:46] <swift110> gimp and krita are on here already
[2:46] <jrg> too bad you can't send stuff from the pi to something to compute the stuff
[2:46] <Berg> stiv: is in love with blender
[2:46] <jrg> like some gpu cluster for blender .. but 100mbit probably way too slow for taht anyways
[2:47] <jrg> does raspbian lite have the desktop minus all the IDE and python stuff?
[2:47] <shiftplusone> I've used blender on the pi with the experimental mesa driver
[2:47] <shiftplusone> pretty usable
[2:47] <shiftplusone> jrg: doesn't have the desktop
[2:47] <swift110> shiftplusone, what did you make with it
[2:47] <shiftplusone> blender is actually okay for simple things like designing parts for 3d printing
[2:47] <shiftplusone> but trying to load some fancy model with lots of verticies.... good luck.
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[2:48] <Berg> I use Misfit for all my 3d model needs mm3d
[2:48] <Berg> lot lighter then blender
[2:48] <jrg> shiftplusone: ah ok
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[2:48] <jrg> i'm trying to remove all the stock pkgs
[2:48] <jrg> like python games
[2:48] <jrg> can't seem to figure out which pkg it is
[2:48] <shiftplusone> it's not in a package
[2:48] <shiftplusone> it's added when the image is created
[2:49] <jrg> but everything else is a pkg
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[2:49] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/RPi-Distro/pi-gen/blob/dev/stage4/02-extras/00-run.sh#L13
[2:49] <jrg> python-pygame
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[2:50] <shiftplusone> that's something else
[2:50] <shiftplusone> that's a python library that uses SDL
[2:50] <jrg> oh
[2:50] <Berg> thats a python lib for making games jrg
[2:50] <jrg> there's no way to remove the python games? heh
[2:50] <shiftplusone> just rm -rf python_games
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[2:51] <jrg> that seems an odd way to remove it
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[2:52] <Berg> apt-get?
[2:52] <shiftplusone> It's not from an apt package
[2:53] <shiftplusone> It's just files in the home directory
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[2:53] <jrg> the .desktop file for the menu is in /usr/share tho
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[2:54] <SyncYourDogmas> jrg
[2:54] <shiftplusone> ah, I guess that comes from raspberrypi-ui-mods,
[2:54] <SyncYourDogmas> run pstree
[2:54] <SyncYourDogmas> gives you an idea
[2:54] <shiftplusone> (but you don't want to remove that package!)
[2:54] <Berg> if you use jessie like and just add the desktop that bwould not have all the crud?
[2:55] <Berg> jessie lite
[2:55] <shiftplusone> It wouldn't
[2:55] <Berg> there is a easy solution
[2:56] <shiftplusone> and I've modified the ui package so that if you run apt-get install --no-install-recommend raspberrypi-ui-mods you get a usable desktop without crud. That update hasn't hit the repo yet.
[2:56] <shiftplusone> someone put some steps up which might be useful if you're not sure.... https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=133691
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[2:57] <jrg> shiftplusone: yah. it's irritating
[2:57] <jrg> wish it didnt' come with all this stock stuff. just a clean desktop/install
[2:58] <jrg> but i still find it odd that python games isn't a pkg
[2:59] <shiftplusone> Well, someone did it this way once upon a time and so it has stayed. I haven't packaged it and don't know of a nice way to install things into a user's home directory (it's a bit of a no-no).
[3:00] <SyncYourDogmas> Ive done it before
[3:00] <SyncYourDogmas> slimmed it down
[3:01] <SyncYourDogmas> you can install stuff into /opt if you want to be proper
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[3:09] <jrg> ok. got rid of it
[3:09] <exonormal> what, the pi?
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[3:10] <jrg> no
[3:10] <jrg> python games
[3:10] <exonormal> lol, jk
[3:11] <Berg> they have another OS dietpi its very slim
[3:12] <Berg> add everything you will need is up to you
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[3:12] <exonormal> is it in the pi site?
[3:13] <Berg> not
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[3:14] <Berg> it is https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=100976
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[3:14] <Berg> I found it on another site but its on pi forum
[3:15] <SyncYourDogmas> is it just arch?
[3:15] <exonormal> ok looking
[3:15] <Berg> no idea also there is tinypi
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[3:17] <exonormal> sweet.. I love that pi icon... wooo hooo..
[3:17] <Berg> https://github.com/TinyPi
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[3:17] <exonormal> looking
[3:18] <Berg> thats a bit evil hay
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[3:19] <exonormal> ahh, that tiny pi is android
[3:20] <SyncYourDogmas> look for an arch install if you want minimal
[3:20] <jrg> neat
[3:20] <jrg> got the colors and stuff customized heh
[3:20] <Berg> anyway i looked at some that small OS stuff and i liked jessie light
[3:22] <exonormal> yuk, arch is for the programmers..
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[3:22] <roflcopter99> Hey all
[3:23] <roflcopter99> quick question
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[3:23] <roflcopter99> I am trying to hook up my RPI with respect to a GPIO layout that appears to be for an older RPI gen
[3:23] <shiftplusone> it's not any moreso for programmers than raspbian.... they just intentionally make it difficult for people they deem not competent enough for linux.
[3:23] <roflcopter99> How does GPIO0 and GPIO1 translate to the new RPI 3 B?
[3:24] <roflcopter99> I am referencing specifically: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=404162#p404162
[3:24] <shiftplusone> roflcopter99: schematics for gpio connections are available in the documentation
[3:24] <roflcopter99> They sure are!
[3:24] <roflcopter99> But not GPIO0/1
[3:24] <SyncYourDogmas> its not intentionally difficult, its minimal
[3:24] <roflcopter99> Those 2 don't appear to exist! :)
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[3:26] <shiftplusone> roflcopter99: what do you make of that?
[3:26] <roflcopter99> My best guess was to use 2/3 instead
[3:27] <swift110> ok
[3:27] <shiftplusone> actually, I see GPIO0 and GPIO1 mentioned in all schematics
[3:27] <roflcopter99> Please link, thanks
[3:27] <shiftplusone> and how it connects to the GPIO header
[3:27] <swift110> goodness I love this pc monitor
[3:27] <swift110> not as big as my last one but its still cool
[3:27] <shiftplusone> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/schematics
[3:27] <Berg> cool is good
[3:28] <Berg> Im a bit anoyed with my touch screen i can never calibrate it perfectly
[3:28] <Berg> its a cheap ebay one
[3:28] <roflcopter99> I pulled up RPI 3 Model B
[3:28] <Berg> do they have a manual way to calibrate them?
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[3:29] <roflcopter99> You're telling me that you see GPIO 0/1 there?
[3:29] <shiftplusone> SyncYourDogmas: I've seen archlinux devs rant about pi users being too dumb for archlinux quite a bit, often mocking instead of offering help when beginners ask questions.
[3:29] <swift110> hey Berg
[3:29] <shiftplusone> roflcopter99: I am indeed
[3:29] <Berg> jello swift110
[3:29] <swift110> Berg, check on youtube for the make and model of the one that you have
[3:29] <roflcopter99> shiftplusone: Am I blind? Where is it on https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/schematics/RPI-3B-V1_2-SCHEMATIC-REDUCED.pdf
[3:30] <roflcopter99> Shouldn't I be looking at GPIO Expansion...?
[3:30] <shiftplusone> pins 27 and 28
[3:30] <Berg> have to wait on new monthly data refresh very low data left atm
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[3:30] <shiftplusone> but you shouldn't be using those pins without knowing what you're doing, they're reserved for the firmware
[3:30] <Berg> thanks swift110
[3:30] <shiftplusone> use gpio2 and 3 instead
[3:30] <swift110> no prob Berg
[3:30] <roflcopter99> shiftplusone: lol
[3:31] <swift110> I will likely be playing minetest on my pi tonight
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[3:31] <Melite> Hey all
[3:32] <roflcopter99> shiftplusone: Right, so, again. I am looking at a pinout setup for a project I found on the forums. They mentioned using GPIO 0 and 1. If I were to compile their program and use it, should I default to 2 and 3, or does something need to be rewritten you'd figure in their code?
[3:32] <Melite> Does anyone know if you can install Ubuntu or Xenomai on RPi3?
[3:32] <roflcopter99> shiftplusone: I am referencing this thread: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=16775
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[3:33] <shiftplusone> roflcopter99: I am giving you the general answer without reading everything in that thread.
[3:33] <roflcopter99> Okay
[3:34] <roflcopter99> My question is: if the code called for GPIO 0/1 on an older RPI, would you default to GPIO 2/3 on the new RPI?
[3:34] <roflcopter99> or would you use the 27/28 physical pins you called out earlier?
[3:34] <shiftplusone> <shiftplusone> but you shouldn't be using those pins without knowing what you're doing, they're reserved for the firmware
[3:34] <roflcopter99> ^
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[3:35] <swift110> hey Zardoz
[3:35] <shiftplusone> The schematics are available. The pi has switched to using i2c1 (located on gpio 2 and gpio 3) for userland. i2c0 is now reserved for the firmware.
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[3:35] <Zardoz> swift110: hello
[3:35] <roflcopter99> Okay. Then I am lost as to how I should wire this up, given that this was written for the older RPI.
[3:35] <Zardoz> swift110: not on the phone tody :)
[3:36] <shiftplusone> roflcopter99: okay, so the pi has 2 i2c peripherals. Initially I2C0 was meant for the user and I2C1 was meant for the firmware. They have switched.
[3:36] <shiftplusone> So you want to use I2C1 now.
[3:37] <shiftplusone> SDA1 and SCL1 in the schematic
[3:37] <shiftplusone> So, use physical pins 3 and 5
[3:37] <shiftplusone> and adjust your code to use I2C1 instead of I2C0.
[3:37] <roflcopter99> perfect, thanks
[3:37] <roflcopter99> I think that second half is what I was missing, then
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[3:38] <shiftplusone> Good luck
[3:38] <swift110> Zardoz, I was earlier
[3:39] <swift110> I am on my pc
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[3:39] <Zardoz> swift110: :P
[3:39] <Zardoz> ok be right back switching over to tmux
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[3:39] <exonormal> I am on my pi zero
[3:39] <exonormal> Sysinfo for 'raspberrypi': Running against KDE 4.14.2 on Raspbian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) powered by Linux 4.1.19+, CPU: ARMv6-compatible processor rev 7 (v6l) at 1000 MHz, RAM: 370/434 MB, Storage: 4/6 GB, 93 procs, 5.02h up
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[3:40] <exonormal> Jessie with Konversation!!!!!!!!!!
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[3:42] <Berg> does Konversation need you to install qt5?
[3:42] <GeoBTC> ok so to test and see if there is a power issue with the RPi I can test any of the GPIO pins? I should see 3.3v and if I dont there is a power issue...is that correct?
[3:43] <roflcopter99> shiftplusone: Not to be too much of a pest, but how are I2C1 and I2C0 defined in code?
[3:43] <[Saint]> GeoBTC: the power issue will almost certainly be in the PSU itself and you've no need to test any part of the baord directly
[3:43] <[Saint]> *board
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[3:44] <GeoBTC> yea but I need a way to test and confirm what the psu is feeding to the RPi
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[3:44] <shiftplusone> roflcopter99: depends on the code
[3:44] <[Saint]> GeoBTC: so test the PSU...
[3:44] <GeoBTC> I asked earlier before I had to step away and someone recommend I test the voltage on the GPIO to see if there is a power issue
[3:44] <roflcopter99> feelsbad :(
[3:45] <Berg> choose the blue or the red pill
[3:45] <GeoBTC> rather than cutting up usb cables and running a meter on the power wires directly
[3:45] <[Saint]> GeoBTC: why on Earth would you need to cut cables?
[3:45] <roflcopter99> This code is in C, but I don't see any references to I2C. I figured it would be one of the #defines, but I don't see anything
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[3:46] <GeoBTC> how would you recommend I test my power supply? its just a samsung cell phone usb charger
[3:46] <swift110> ok
[3:46] <swift110> wat is tmux
[3:46] <GeoBTC> and I need to test about 200 of them
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[3:46] <swift110> exonormal, so how much are you able to do with the pi zero?
[3:47] <[Saint]> GeoBTC: there's very easily accessible pins in the USB cable, unless perhaps you've got the big kiddy-sized Fischer Price style testpoints I guess.
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[3:47] <[Saint]> s/cable/end/ - sorry
[3:48] <GeoBTC> its a micro usb port, what about that is easy access for test leads?
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[3:48] <[Saint]> My testpoints get in there easily enough.
[3:49] <[Saint]> I guess you have the latter aforementioned giant-sized hamfisted ones.
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[3:49] <GeoBTC> I must be missing something
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[3:51] <[Saint]> it's pretty easy to get at +5 and -5 from a male microUSB end with my probes. But perhaps they're a lot smaller/finer than yours.
[3:52] <exonormal> swift110: I can do a lot with it... also installed the Uno app and can code to flash the Uno to do its tricks
[3:52] <[Saint]> I guess it's made easier by knowing I'm only really interested in pins 1 and 5, which are on the outside edges of the slot.
[3:53] <GeoBTC> I guess i need smaller probes then
[3:53] <[Saint]> wait, is it 1 and 5 for VCC/GND in micro?
[3:53] <[Saint]> errr...yes? Yes.
[3:53] <GeoBTC> yes
[3:53] <[Saint]> sorry, brainfart. :)
[3:54] <GeoBTC> ok well thanks for the info
[3:54] <[Saint]> there's nothing stopping you from poking at the 3.3.5V rails on the pi directly.
[3:54] <swift110> http://www.raspberryweather.com/
[3:54] <swift110> uno the card game?
[3:55] <[Saint]> Other than it being a really really really bad idea to put testpoints near GPIO when anything is live...ever.
[3:55] <exonormal> no, Arduino Uno board, swift110
[3:55] <swift110> oh ok
[3:55] <[Saint]> I don't really like suggesting anyone do that.
[3:55] <GeoBTC> ehh if i kill a pi or two its no big deal
[3:56] <[Saint]> There's a very good chance the pi will be OK if you get absentminded and bridge something, but, there's a non-0 chance it won't.
[3:56] <GeoBTC> I have about 400 spare PIs so im not too worried about it
[3:56] <[Saint]> Hah. Ok. :)
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[3:57] <GeoBTC> I am just trying to trace down the root of this filesystem error im getting
[3:57] <GeoBTC> and one of the things I found while researching is bad power can cause the problem
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[3:57] <[Saint]> I found I solved that mystery when I switched out to USB /
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[3:58] <GeoBTC> what do you mean?
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[3:58] <[Saint]> for whatever reason USB / seems to cope with sudden power loss a hell of a lot more gracefully.
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[3:58] <GeoBTC> i dont know what "USB /" is
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[3:59] <[Saint]> "having the rootfs (everything that isn't /boot" on a USB thumbdrive"
[3:59] <[Saint]> bah, missed closing )
[3:59] <[Saint]> you get the idea.
[4:00] <GeoBTC> ohhhhh duh
[4:00] <GeoBTC> sorry i get it now lol
[4:00] <[Saint]> I was also occasionally getting corrupt filesystems in my deployed pis, even after I switched out all my PSUs, because I just couldn't account for sudden poweroff and the sdcards just weren't coping with it for whatever reason.
[4:00] <GeoBTC> sadly something like that isnt an option for me
[4:01] <[Saint]> yeah - I was dealing with two dozen.
[4:01] <GeoBTC> i have about 700 in production right now and about 200 of them are having this fs error preventing me from permanently changing every setting
[4:01] <[Saint]> not several hundred.
[4:01] <Chillum> [Saint]: thin power wires can cause a voltage drop which can corrupt sds
[4:01] <Chillum> even if the PSU has amps to spare
[4:01] <GeoBTC> and i cant seem to figure out how to force it to mount the dirty system rw long enough to mod my config file
[4:01] <Chillum> as it pulls more amps the voltage drops in cheap usb cables
[4:02] <GeoBTC> sadly all of our power bricks and usb cables are the cheapest of the cheap so who knows what the root cause is :/
[4:03] <[Saint]> I ended up saying "screw it" and spent the extra on getting picoPSUs for my cases instead of external USB supplies. But that didn't end up being the problem in the end.
[4:03] <GeoBTC> they were all fine here at my site but we moved them to a remote site and literally half the RPis are having the issue there
[4:04] <[Saint]> I since moved everything over to ODROID XU4 boards and everything has been much smoother sailing.
[4:04] <[Saint]> But that is /probably/ because I spent a lot more time hashing out the details of these builds.
[4:04] <[Saint]> The pis were in a constant state of bandaiding.
[4:06] <Zardoz> yeah I think I like tmux a lot better.
[4:07] <GeoBTC> Ive been meaning to buy a couple of those ODROIDS just for personal projects
[4:07] <GeoBTC> unfortunately what im stuck with is what im stuck with here at work
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[4:15] <[Saint]> The C2 is pretty neat. I managed to swing getting one of the preproduction run a fair while ago (some months) now. Interesting wee board.
[4:15] <swift110> hmm
[4:16] <[Saint]> XU4 is currently doing everything I need it to.
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[4:16] <abnormal> is tmux = too much?
[4:16] <[Saint]> 'terminal muxer'
[4:16] <abnormal> I see.. ok
[4:17] <GeoBTC> btw is i shorted out gpio pins multiple times with my fisher price test probes and it didnt hurt the Pi
[4:17] <[Saint]> mux/muxer/muxing are weird words.
[4:17] <GeoBTC> I tested on a Pi that had a bad ethernet port already just in case
[4:18] <GeoBTC> im seeing 3.31v tho so it looks totally normal
[4:18] <abnormal> yes, it seemed weird
[4:18] <[Saint]> I prefer 'multiplex/multiplexer/multiplexing'
[4:18] <[Saint]> but, *shrug*
[4:18] <abnormal> I agree
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[4:19] <[Saint]> I guess I just "prefer" screen because of historical reasons over tmux.
[4:20] <[Saint]> Been using it for ages, and every vaguely unixey system seems to have some form of screen deployment available.
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[4:21] <swift110> i see
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[4:33] <Zardoz> ok, zsh+ohmyzsh+tumx :)
[4:33] <abnormal> lol
[4:33] <abnormal> gud one
[4:34] <Zardoz> now to play :P
[4:34] <abnormal> yes.. it is time to play, big time
[4:34] <Berg> Im playing big time
[4:34] <Zardoz> :)
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[4:35] <abnormal> goodie... ;-)
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[4:35] <Berg> <----plays warzone 2100 big time
[4:35] <Se7en> Hi there. I am curious about installing openELEC but I don't have a card reader. Is it possible to install it via a USB flash?
[4:36] <Zardoz> Se7en: you have to have a sdcard to boot
[4:36] <Se7en> I know
[4:36] <Se7en> But I don't have a card reader to install it to the System SD card
[4:36] <Zardoz> oh I see..
[4:36] <Se7en> So is it possible ot just use a USB installer?
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[4:36] <Se7en> I would dd it if I could
[4:36] <GeoBTC> card reader is like $5-$10, if you wanna play with these things Id suggest you purchase one
[4:37] <meupau> how can i make a remote trigger with raspberry pi, 3g usb, a power relay ??? i can trigger remotely by a socket connection?
[4:37] <Zardoz> yeah your going to need a card reader I think.
[4:38] <meupau> sure
[4:38] <meupau> i dont have the host to serve, but i can use the TOR relay
[4:38] <Se7en> Alrihgt
[4:38] <Se7en> Thanks
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[4:59] <rgb-one> Has anyone ever connected a Pi to a PC via an ethernet cable without internet access and ssh'd into the Pi?
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[5:00] <rgb-one> so basically Laptop <---------------> Pi (no internet connection)
[5:00] <giddles> if you have a dhcp running on your machine, why not?
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[5:00] <rgb-one> Laptop <-------- eth -------> Pi (no internet connection)
[5:01] <rgb-one> Ah
[5:01] <rgb-one> so how would that work
[5:02] <giddles> its the framework to let pass tcp/ip, if you have a win machine the dhcpi mean in jessie its activated @ DHCPCD
[5:02] <rgb-one> dhcpcd is available for linux
[5:03] <giddles> sudo service dhcpcd status @ rgb-one
[5:03] <giddles> the rest you find in tutorials
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[5:04] <rgb-one> wouldn't it be sudo systemctl enable dhcpcd@interface.service
[5:04] <giddles> and with sudo nano?whatever.. /etc/dhcpcd.conf you can add an adress
[5:04] <rgb-one> since systemd is used
[5:04] <giddles> manual
[5:04] <[Saint]> something something, dnsmasq
[5:05] <giddles> i mean its activated @ jessie
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[5:06] <giddles> never had problems with it ;)
[5:06] <rgb-one> Alright
[5:06] <rgb-one> I should get a Pi to test this stuff out
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[5:08] <giddles> last hint rgb-one : fire sudo service dhcpcd start and after that sudo systemctl enable dhcpcd
[5:08] <giddles> and you will be fine connected
[5:08] <giddles> if status says its not working
[5:09] <Zardoz> q
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[5:10] <giddles> and dont forget reboot
[5:10] <rgb-one> Cool, Thanks giddles
[5:10] <giddles> np
[5:11] <rgb-one> which pi uses 64 bit arch?
[5:11] <giddles> i edited /etc/dhcpcd.conf and didnt reboot :P nice try to destroy a full hour of failure search
[5:13] <giddles> sudo service networking restart <-- option 2 :)
[5:14] <giddles> enough code for today.. gn8
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[5:14] <rgb-one> gn m8
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[5:40] <Zardoz> awesome :)
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[5:48] <sir_galahad_ad> nou
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[5:55] <Zardoz> now?
[5:58] <sir_galahad_ad> :P
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[6:16] * [Saint] has finally figured out why lots of guys in oldtimey photographs have majestic beards.
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[6:16] <[Saint]> Shaving with a straightrazor is reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally difficult around the chin and jawline.
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[6:18] <Zardoz> yes it is...
[6:19] <[Saint]> I don't cut myself anymore. So, there's that. Only took the best part of a month. lol
[6:19] <Zardoz> but I dont worrie about this as I have a beard :P
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[6:19] <JK-47> single blade sweeney odd straight, or a safety razor style?
[6:20] <[Saint]> The former. The latter is a shavette.
[6:20] <[Saint]> Though I have both in this set, which is kinda neat.
[6:21] <[Saint]> SO went to a local-ish knifemaker.
[6:21] <Zardoz> you guys use zsh at all?
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[6:21] <Zardoz> I am really kind of liking it
[6:22] <Zardoz> I should get some food though.
[6:23] <[Saint]> I use what is, IMO, a much better distributed IRC system.
[6:23] <Zardoz> I need to do some configuration on mpd
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[6:23] <[Saint]> I use quassel-core
[6:24] <Zardoz> [Saint]: yeah I know that it sounded really go...
[6:24] <Zardoz> zsh is shell though
[6:24] <Zardoz> good btw
[6:25] * sir_galahad_ad would rather be fishing :D
[6:25] <[Saint]> Oh. Haha. Whoops. FOr some reason I read znc.
[6:25] <[Saint]> *whistles*
[6:25] <Zardoz> lol
[6:26] <Zardoz> yeah use is some irrsi jedi stuff
[6:26] <Zardoz> dam I cant type :(
[6:26] <Zardoz> you use*
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[6:27] <Zardoz> I feel good about get zsh and tmux going :)
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[6:29] <Zardoz> ok getting some food be right back
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[7:05] <Eternias> is it safe to just unplug ppi witout shutting down
[7:05] <Eternias> if im not copying file
[7:05] <Eternias> and just running raspbian?
[7:05] <Eternias> (desktop version)
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[7:16] <swift110-phone> hwy
[7:17] <stiv> Eternias, always nice to shutdown properly
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[7:29] <[Saint]> If you did maybe 'sync && sync' first and then hit the power you might get lucky.
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[7:30] <[Saint]> if anything was sitting in a writebuffer you're probably pretty hosed.
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[7:37] <stiv> eventually, you are going to get burned
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[7:39] <stiv> i'm guessing pi is not doing journaling
[7:39] <stiv> (mine is off, ATM)
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[8:38] <Xark> Did you guys catch https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1815752970/hybrid-tube-amp-for-the-raspberry-pi :)
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[8:44] <Zardoz> mmm...
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[8:49] <Zardoz> I think I would want 3 more Pi3 then a hybrid tube amp that would most like not do much for the audio coming from the Pi.
[8:49] <Zardoz> looks cool though
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[8:54] <mlelstv> "not do much" ?
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[8:58] <Lartza> well tube amps really don't do any good at least but :P
[8:58] <Lartza> They do stuff for sure
[9:00] <mlelstv> tubes can be pretty linear. they are just known for their distortions because tubes will survive such abuse :)
[9:01] <mlelstv> I'd be more concerned about the heat and the sketchy 'block diagram' :)
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[9:30] <Voop> the USB plug on this thing is brilliant https://www.fasttech.com/products/1521/10015445/2882900-2-in-1-micro-usb-usb-powered-2-blade-mini-cooling
[9:30] <Voop> anyone know if those plugs exist seperately?
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[9:32] <swift110-phone> hey
[9:33] <Voop> hello
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[9:39] <[Saint]> Voop: I've seen ones where you can pull the USB sheath back like a weird kind of USB cable foreskin and get lightning as well as the weird microUSB coupling.
[9:39] <Voop> that sounds awesome too
[9:39] <[Saint]> trying to find where I got them from now.
[9:40] <tfitts> I have a few USB/Serial adapters hooked up to my pi, all three show as the same device with the same and even the same serial # at least according to a guide I tried following. So the problem is when the pi resets each of their /dev/ttyUSBx number changes so I can't use that to reliably connect to the right serial port and only 1 device shows up under
[9:40] <tfitts> /dev/serial/by-id. Anyone ever had to deal with this?
[9:41] <Voop> [Saint], like this? http://www.amazon.com/LDesign%C2%AE-Adapter-Charging-Android-Tablets/dp/B0140TU6UK
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[10:04] <Armand> [Saint]: Way to make cables gross... Thanks for that. :P
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[10:18] <swift110-phone> ok
[10:19] <swift110-phone> oh armands here yoo
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[10:28] <mlelstv> hmm
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[10:50] <skylite> the PI is in space! amaizing! https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/compute-module-cubesats/
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[11:12] <nickgaw> Hi, Are there any good boards that have motors on them anymore like the gert board or are none of those made anymore?
[11:13] <daveake> What sort of motor do you need to drive?
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[11:14] <nickgaw> Well I was thinking of a small fan but mainly for testing out the power abilities of the model 3?
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[11:14] <daveake> Power abilities?
[11:15] <nickgaw> How fast can the motors go on boards built for the model 3?
[11:15] <nickgaw> with no external power just supplied by the raspberrypi itself.
[11:16] <nickgaw> Did the gert board stop getting built?
[11:17] <daveake> Has nothing to do with the pi
[11:17] <daveake> That's down to the motor and power
[11:18] <nickgaw> Do most people make their own boards?
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[11:20] <daveake> No idea. Trivial to do.
[11:22] <daveake> I wouldn't run the motor from the same power as the Pi, as you risk the Pi hanging/rebooting if the power line spikes or dips
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[11:51] <Drzacek> Hello
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[11:51] <Drzacek> I have pi zero with retro pie image installed on sd. I assume I can take this sd card and put it in my Pi3, right?
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[11:55] <Drzacek> and more important question - can I somehow use it (rpi) without hdmi screen? Is network preconfigured that it would work out-of-the box so I can ssh to it?
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[11:59] <daveake> For raspbian at least, ssh is enabled by default, so if you know its IP address or hostname it's easy
[11:59] <gordonDrogon> it should work if the software is up to date. it may get a different IP address.
[11:59] <gordonDrogon> however I don't know much about how retro pi keeps things like the kernel/bootlaoder up to date, etc.
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[12:04] <Drzacek_> does it have static ip by default or dhcp?
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[12:20] <Drzacek> If the LEDs on ethernet port on rpi doesn't light up, it means that retropie doesn't have network configured, right?
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[12:35] <Drzacek> okay, I got jessie lite image of raspbian, the LEDs are on. Now I only need to get its IP address, right?
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[12:42] <Drzacek> I logged in, how can I change IP address now? I see that /etc/network/interfaces is telling me, that it only affects dhcp, not static IP
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[12:46] <ShorTie> easiest way is to set static ip is in router by mac
[12:52] <Drzacek> ShorTie, I only have limited access to router
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[12:52] <Drzacek> I found tutorial on how to set static IP by editing dhdpcp.conf
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[14:13] <Drzacek> http://aaron-brown.net/blog/?p=99 I'm following this instruction, and after shutdown -r part my Pi doesn't boot
[14:14] <ShorTie> sounds like a time for a wipe-n-reload to me
[14:15] <Drzacek> ShorTie, that's what I did
[14:15] <Drzacek> got new image burned on sd, tried again - the same
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[14:16] <Berg> why bare you using shutdown -r ...why not use reboot?
[14:16] <Berg> bare= are
[14:16] <Drzacek> second time I used reboot
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[14:18] <Lartza> Berg, Why not shutdown -r?
[14:19] <Lartza> It doesn't really make a difference in Linux but reboot is usually the worse option in unix
[14:19] <Berg> cause i dont know
[14:21] <Drzacek> anyway, does rpi-update does something bad that makes image unbootable?
[14:21] * sir_galahad_ad would've assumed reboot was a alias to shutdown -r anyway
[14:22] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> Drzacek, no, you're doing something wrong.
[14:23] <Drzacek> nothing else than stated in that tutorial
[14:23] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> what tutorial?
[14:23] <Drzacek> http://aaron-brown.net/blog/?p=99
[14:24] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> find a more up-to-date one.
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[14:24] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> also, write the img to the sd card, do NOT do anything then just reboot or shutdown -r
[14:24] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> see if it works...
[14:24] <Lartza> sir_galahad_ad, shutdown -r usually is more graceful, in BSD for example
[14:24] <Lartza> But like I said, on Linux it is pretty much an alias
[14:24] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> who cares about bsd?
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[14:25] <Lartza> ChunkzZ-ZNC, Who cares about your opinions? I don't
[14:25] * ChunkzZ-ZNC laughs
[14:27] <Drzacek> Did reboot on fresh image - it shutdown, started, and I could ssh to it
[14:28] <Lartza> Drzacek, Do you actually have that screen or?
[14:28] <Drzacek> yes
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[14:28] <Lartza> It seems rpi-firmware has been deprecated and default kernel has support for the screen now
[14:29] <Drzacek> yeah Im reading that too
[14:29] <Drzacek> I'll just skip that part then
[14:29] <Lartza> So yeah that's a great reason why it would break, outdated firmware and all :P
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[14:34] <Drzacek> http://paste.debian.net/681460/
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[14:34] <Drzacek> Is it normal that I don't have /etc/modprobe.d/raspi-blacklist.conf ?
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[14:34] <Lartza> I don't think you need that anymore
[14:35] <Drzacek> raspi-config?
[14:36] <ShorTie> they do it by device tree now
[14:36] <Lartza> Oh wait SPI
[14:36] <Lartza> don't adafruit have a custom kernel for their screens?
[14:37] <Lartza> Like, https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-2-2-pitft-hat-320-240-primary-display-for-raspberry-pi/easy-install
[14:38] <Drzacek> Does it make a difference if it's not from adafruit, only from china?
[14:38] <Lartza> How do you know it uses adafruit22a
[14:38] <Lartza> ?
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[14:43] <Drzacek> in that tutorial it is also not adafruit
[14:43] <Drzacek> but it is ILI9340C controler
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[14:51] <Lartza> Drzacek, I would just try the adafruit instructions
[14:51] <Drzacek> Lartza, I'm trying
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[14:58] <Zardoz> ugh, morning :(
[15:00] <Lartza> afternoon
[15:00] <Zardoz> maybe for you :P
[15:01] <Lartza> Definitely for me
[15:01] <Zardoz> maybe I sould say ugh, waking up...
[15:01] <GenteelBen> You need an RPi alarm clock, Zardoz.
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[15:02] <Zardoz> GenteelBen: no, I dont need that at all.
[15:02] <Zardoz> GenteelBen: but a cool RPi magic mirror would be cool.
[15:04] <Zardoz> Lartza: where are you located?
[15:04] <Lartza> Finland
[15:04] <Zardoz> Lartza: oh, nice hello to you :)
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[15:05] <Lartza> hello :)
[15:06] <Berg> finland always makes me think of fish land
[15:06] <Berg> fish have fins
[15:06] <Zardoz> Berg: :P
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[15:07] <Berg> is ok
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[15:07] <Zardoz> Berg: >((()));> <--- a fish
[15:08] <Berg> nice fish
[15:08] <Zardoz> lol, looks like an armadillo
[15:08] <Zardoz> from the top
[15:08] <Berg> hmm
[15:08] <Zardoz> wired. haha
[15:09] <Zardoz> Thats the Texas in me I guess.
[15:09] <Berg> im not sure how to draw a fishg }<//(o>
[15:10] <Berg> fish
[15:10] <Zardoz> oh nice much better IMO
[15:10] * Berg takes a bow
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[15:10] * Zardoz claps loudly...
[15:10] <Berg> its a salmon
[15:11] <Zardoz> and its name is fisshy mcfish.
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[15:12] <Berg> man had to boot swearer from games channel
[15:12] <Berg> i hate that
[15:13] <Zardoz> potty mouth?
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[15:13] <Berg> little bit
[15:13] <Berg> lets hope he got the message
[15:13] <Berg> ill +q hiom for a week next time
[15:13] <Zardoz> some people just need a kicking to get the point.
[15:14] <Berg> yeah
[15:14] <Berg> he is whining about the rules now
[15:14] <Berg> its cute
[15:14] <Zardoz> hah
[15:14] <Berg> i wrote the rules sad
[15:14] <Zardoz> he must be young
[15:14] <Berg> :)
[15:15] <Berg> he's a regular just masybe pushy moody today
[15:15] <Zardoz> yeah
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[15:16] <Berg> its warzone channel and they get agressive when they lost a war
[15:16] <Berg> but thats the nature of the game
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[15:17] <Berg> so my sardine is more fishy then your armadillo
[15:17] <Zardoz> lmao, very much so...
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[15:19] <Zardoz> D<xx(o> <--- different kind of fish...
[15:19] <Berg> ha you took sections of my fish
[15:20] <Zardoz> oh no Frakenstine
[15:20] <Berg> Its alive mathter
[15:20] <Zardoz> sorry for the spelling
[15:20] <Berg> its ok
[15:20] <Berg> i cant see any errors anyway
[15:21] <Berg> hehehe
[15:21] <Zardoz> haha
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[15:22] <Zardoz> lol runtime error has been killed
[15:22] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> what cases do you guy use?
[15:22] <Berg> Mode #warzone2100-games +q ToTaLkRieG!*@* by Berg
[15:22] <Berg> he pushed it too far
[15:22] <Berg> hehehe
[15:23] <Zardoz> oh dear
[15:23] <Berg> i use the red and white case from rpiu shop
[15:23] <Berg> rpi
[15:23] <Zardoz> I have an old case from I pi1 I moded but I have a lot
[15:23] <Berg> its good it has multi formats to let you have diff options
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[15:24] <Berg> I take off all the white bits so its all red and we all know red ones go faster
[15:24] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Protective-Case-Cover-Shell-Enclosure-Box-For-Raspberry-Pi-2-Model-B-B-/151715839607?hash=item2352f7fe77:g:z04AAOSwk0pVf8uE my pi 2 case, I hate it.
[15:25] <Zardoz> ChunkzZ-ZNC: http://imgur.com/PP31Lw7
[15:25] <Berg> you paid 3 quid for that?
[15:25] <Berg> wow
[15:25] <Berg> I actualy dont like it
[15:26] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> Zardoz, what are the two underneath? the clear one's?
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[15:26] <Zardoz> they are pi1 cases I like them a lot
[15:27] <Zardoz> the read one has a pi3 in it
[15:27] <Zardoz> red*
[15:27] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> the one with the raspberry logo on looks good...
[15:27] <Drzacek> I tried the adafruit PiTft raspbian image, but it only makes the screen backlight flas
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[15:27] <Zardoz> but I dont like the red one to much... just using this I get a real pi3 case
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[15:29] <Zardoz> ChunkzZ-ZNC: yeah the pi1 case I got are very nice and was cheap. sec
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[15:30] <Berg> im looking for mine
[15:30] <Zardoz> http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Pi-Case-Enclosure-Clear/dp/B0097NPQ8W?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
[15:31] <Zardoz> thats the pi1 case, dont think they make them anymore.
[15:31] <Berg> i made a case for my other pi out of ear buds box
[15:32] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B017Z32E80/ref=s9_simh_gw_g147_i1_r?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=V7BEFRPC6W6ZZSPZPQTA&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=867551787&pf_rd_i=desktop I wonder if I can stack that
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[15:33] <Zardoz> http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Case-Heat-Sinks/dp/B01185IKFW/ref=sr_1_2?srs=3020163011&ie=UTF8&qid=1462455150&sr=8-2&keywords=case
[15:33] <Zardoz> I amlooking at getting this case for my pi2 and 3
[15:33] <Zardoz> and canakit are good people.
[15:33] <Berg> i dont like opaque
[15:34] <Zardoz> <---- like bliky lights
[15:34] <Berg> i do too
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[15:34] <Berg> but i also like the clear cases
[15:35] <Zardoz> and bigclive is my hero becuse of that
[15:35] <Qatz> Does the pi3 really need a heatsink? Or are you overclocking it?
[15:36] <Zardoz> depends on use
[15:36] <Berg> lots are saying they have heaT issues
[15:36] <Qatz> Hmm
[15:36] <Berg> but yes depends on usage
[15:36] <Zardoz> heat for chips is bad. so I use heatsinks
[15:37] <Qatz> I really want to play with some arm 64 bit ASM
[15:37] <Berg> i dont own one so
[15:37] <Qatz> So tempting
[15:37] <Berg> buy heat sinks
[15:37] <Berg> simple
[15:38] <Berg> they have cases that come with heatsinks
[15:38] <Berg> and fans
[15:38] <Zardoz> by case from canakit you get them :P
[15:38] <Berg> yeah his case link
[15:38] <Zardoz> and just 5.99 us
[15:38] <Zardoz> deal
[15:39] <Berg> goto the gold exchange and swap you goldfish for cash
[15:39] <Berg> then you can buy one
[15:40] <Zardoz> }<GOLD>(o>
[15:40] <Berg> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/White-ABS-Case-Box-Aluminum-Heatsink-Cooler-Kit-For-Raspberry-Pi-3-Pi-2-B-/322087615468?hash=item4afdeafbec:g:fMcAAOSwiYFXH3Rm
[15:40] <Berg> ha
[15:40] <Berg> the clone fish
[15:40] <Berg> hahahaha
[15:40] <Zardoz> ahah
[15:40] <Zardoz> }<LOLFISH>(o>
[15:41] <Berg> is that a clown fish?
[15:41] <Zardoz> lmao
[15:41] <Drzacek> Ha! Got it. Had to modprobe it
[15:41] <Drzacek> :D
[15:42] <Zardoz> \o/ yay
[15:42] <Berg> the fish?
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[15:42] <Zardoz> lol dont modprobe the lolfish
[15:43] <Berg> do they sell fan and heatsink with cases?
[15:43] <Zardoz> canakit sends heatsinks with cases
[15:44] <Berg> fan?
[15:44] <Berg> no fan
[15:44] <Zardoz> no fans
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[15:44] <Zardoz> though some of the bigger kits might
[15:44] <Berg> sad
[15:44] <Berg> colstalot kits?
[15:44] <Berg> costalot
[15:45] <Zardoz> its not to bad
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[15:45] <Zardoz> alright I am away for 10 hours.. have a good day all...
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[15:46] <Berg> laters
[15:46] <Zardoz> and dont modprobe the lolfish wile I am away...
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[15:46] <Berg> tell Drzacek
[15:46] <Zardoz> Drzacek: ?
[15:46] <Zardoz> ok?
[15:47] <Zardoz> :P
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[15:48] <Drzacek> yes?
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[15:57] <Drzacek> okay, so now that I got my cute tiny lcd working, how can I rotate the screen? (to landscape mode, now it's in portrait mode)
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[16:07] <Drzacek> okay, I have small problem - I added 'fbtft_device name=adafruit22a verbose=0' to /etc/modulec, but I still have to modprobe manually
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[16:09] <Lartza> Who told you to write to such file?
[16:09] <Drzacek> http://aaron-brown.net/blog/?p=99 he did
[16:10] <Lartza> And what part of that guide has worked for you now huh? :P
[16:10] <Lartza> Didn't you follow adafruit instructions?
[16:10] <Lartza> Or how did you get it to work at all in the first place
[16:10] <Drzacek> Lartza, well, I'm using pitft raspbian from adafruit, but I had to modprobe adafruit22a to get it working
[16:11] <Drzacek> I have to call sudo modprobe fbtft_device name=adafruit22a each time to get it to work
[16:11] <Lartza> That sounds weird
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[16:12] <Roonix> To rotate the screen there should be a "rotate =" option in your /boot/config.txt
[16:12] <Drzacek> weird or not - it works. How do I make it to load this at boot?
[16:12] <Roonix> I'm assuming there will be seeing as your using the pitft image
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[16:13] <Drzacek> Roonix, yes, there was something in /boot/config.txt. Problem is, I changed it, rebooted and it didn't change anything
[16:13] <Lartza> Drzacek, /boot/config.txt is the answer for autoloading too...
[16:13] <Lartza> The lines in the end, dtoverlay and such should just work
[16:16] <Drzacek> Lartza, from what I understand everything is set up just fine. Problem is, it's not working
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[16:16] <Lartza> If you are using the complete adafruit image it should just work yeah
[16:16] <Lartza> Like, no changes at all
[16:17] <Drzacek> I also assumed that it should
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[16:18] <Lartza> I'd check for errors, not sure if raspbian uses systemd journal but... "journalctl -b"
[16:19] <Lartza> Anything relevant should be right at the top as "kernel: "
[16:19] <Lartza> anything that mentions tft
[16:20] <Drzacek> no journal files were found
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[16:24] <swift110-phone> hmmm
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[16:26] <Drzacek> http://paste.debian.net/681550/
[16:26] <Drzacek> after I rebooted again and tried to modprobe
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[16:28] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> I ordered these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/NEW-Raspberry-Model-Case-OneNineDesign/dp/B00M8ZEIW6?ie=UTF8&ref_=pe_385721_131433281_TE_item
[16:28] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> 2*
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[16:34] <Drzacek_> Hmm there are [pi1] and [pi2] sections, but I don't see rpi3
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[16:39] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> pi 2/3 are pretty much the same for installs etc
[16:39] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> yeah...
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[16:41] <Drzacek> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=138757
[16:41] <Drzacek> "Yes, I see what's happening now. The script downloads and installs their own raspberrypi-bootloader (mainly kernel and firmware) and it has not been updated for the Pi3 yet..."
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[16:50] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> lol
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[16:51] <Lartza> "I was able to get it working with a fresh Jessie and then following the "Detailed Install" on the adafruit site. They must have updated their kernel. Thanks all!"
[16:51] <Lartza> The latest image is from end of march, it must be supporting rpi3
[16:52] <ChunkzZ-ZNC> miniban also has support for the rpi 3
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[16:56] <Drzacek> http://paste.debian.net/681571/ I noticed that on startup it said [FAILED] (no idea what failed to start)
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[17:01] <Drzacek> I noticed that it crash from time to time - I don't think its normal. IT hangs, and I have to remove power cable, then start again. Could it be that my rpi3 is faulty?
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[17:23] <ScrumpyJack> afternoon
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[17:24] <ScrumpyJack> will usb gadget g_ether kernel module work on the raspberry pi zero over the power usb port?
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[17:26] <BurtyB> ScrumpyJack, no
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[17:26] <ScrumpyJack> arg, power only right?
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[17:27] <BurtyB> yup, but the "usb" port will do data and power
[17:27] <ScrumpyJack> oh really?
[17:28] <BurtyB> ScrumpyJack, yeah - they're just connected together with a 0R resistor
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[17:30] <MZ|Alex> is it possible to perform an installation of Raspbian on rpi3 and access it remotely without connecting it to a monitor at any point ?
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[17:31] <Drzacek> MZ|Alex, thats what I'm doing today
[17:31] <Drzacek> if by "installation" you mean write image to sd card and then insert this card to rpi
[17:32] <MZ|Alex> yes
[17:33] <MZ|Alex> after that, can I just power it on and connect via ssh or something?
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[17:34] <MZ|Alex> Drzacek should I use the full desktop image or can I just drop the lite ??
[17:34] <Drzacek> MZ|Alex, do you need desktop?
[17:34] <MZ|Alex> no, just remote access.. is that inlcuded in lite?
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[17:36] <Drzacek> yes
[17:36] <Roonix> you'll be using wired internet right?
[17:36] <MZ|Alex> yes
[17:36] <Drzacek> by any chance you
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[17:36] <Drzacek> will be trying to connect some small lcd someday?
[17:36] <Drzacek> :D
[17:37] <MZ|Alex> might do that, why?
[17:37] <MZ|Alex> this will end being a black box for telemetry
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[17:38] <Drzacek> well, hehe, then I would advice to get, hmm, pitft image from adafruit
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[17:40] <MZ|Alex> I might do that later, I just want to get started and shell into this baby
[17:40] <MZ|Alex> I'm a first timer on rpi
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[17:42] <Roonix> how you getting the ip address, router?
[17:42] <Drzacek> MZ|Alex, thats the thing, instead of raspian you get PiTFT image
[17:42] <Roonix> i use fing iphone app, pretty handy
[17:43] <Drzacek> its the same, it just has some things ready for lcds
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[17:46] <Roonix> you can install that pitft stuff manually later on, its really easy to install with the script
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[17:46] <MZ|Alex> Drzacek nice to know!
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[18:24] <Drzacek> the guys from adafruit have their own channel on irc?
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[18:28] <SpeedEvil> I know spankfun do
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[18:31] <Phosie> ha, spankfun
[18:31] <Drzacek> :D
[18:32] <Phosie> #adafruit almost empty thougj
[18:32] <Drzacek> does sparkfun manage PiTft distro? :P
[18:32] <Phosie> though
[18:32] <Drzacek> Phosie, yeah, I checked that earlier, but I was overwhelmed by the crowd of 15 people there so I left
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[18:40] <Drzacek> Trying fresh raspian image and then to install pitft instead of using their image. Maybe that will help
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[18:52] <Drzacek> It got me wonder - both "Easy install" (with pitft-helper) and "detailer" (manual config edit) need few lines in /boot/config.txt, but there are only section for rp1 and rpi2. So how is rpi3 supported?
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[19:05] <MZ|Alex> cant believe how easy it was to install rpi and access it remotely
[19:05] <Drzacek> MZ|Alex, then what took you so long? :P
[19:05] <ChunkzZ> lmao XD
[19:05] <MZ|Alex> Drzacek the card reader, I had to open it, was reporting write-protection on all cards
[19:06] <MZ|Alex> cheap u$5 reader
[19:06] <Drzacek> yeah, I can't use my buil-in laptop sd card reader. Luckily, some cheapity cheap reader I get with my drone works fine
[19:06] <MZ|Alex> I was expecting some minimal challenge
[19:07] <Drzacek> MZ|Alex, try to connect cheap chinese 2.2 lcd screen
[19:07] <Drzacek> I dare you
[19:07] <MZ|Alex> the only challenge was to make the reader work
[19:07] <MZ|Alex> lol
[19:07] <Drzacek> been fighting with this all day
[19:07] <Drzacek> maybe those cheap chinese parts ARE bad?
[19:07] <MZ|Alex> so, this is basically a debian distro striped down?
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[19:07] <MZ|Alex> the raspbian i mean
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[19:07] <Drzacek> with some raspberry pi stuff on top
[19:08] <MZ|Alex> oh this is getting better and better
[19:08] <MZ|Alex> my expectations were really low
[19:08] <Drzacek> for example, I couldn't edit /etc/network/interfaces, had to edit some other file to get static IP
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[20:01] <ChrisGR> hi guys.. I am trying to install OMV but the error with the php5 is keep coming and i can't solve it :(
[20:01] <ChrisGR> i tried EVERYTHING.. some help please
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[20:03] <ChunkzZ> Drzacek, "sudo nano /etc/network/interface(s)/
[20:03] <ChunkzZ> should've done it.
[20:04] <ChunkzZ> MZ|Alex, if you want really minimal, try miniban.
[20:04] <ChunkzZ> it's faster than raspbian lite
[20:05] <stiv> ChrisGR, do we know what the err msg says?
[20:06] <ChrisGR> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:06] <ChrisGR> openmediavault : Depends: php5-pam but it is not going to be installed
[20:06] <ChrisGR> Depends: proftpd-mod-vroot but it is not going to be installed
[20:06] <ChrisGR> Depends: php5-proctitle but it is not going to be installed
[20:06] <ChrisGR> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[20:06] <ChunkzZ> dude :/
[20:06] <ChrisGR> I know sorry
[20:06] <ChrisGR> :D
[20:06] <ChunkzZ> tried -f?
[20:06] <ChrisGR> yep
[20:06] <ChrisGR> not working
[20:07] <ChunkzZ> you have openmediavault installed/removed?
[20:07] <Drzacek> ChunkzZ, yeah, typo - but it clearly states I should edit dhcpcd
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[20:07] <ChrisGR> what is this Chunk? sorry i'm not very advanced
[20:07] <ChunkzZ> Drzacek, I only ever edit what I said
[20:07] <ChunkzZ> :p
[20:07] <ChunkzZ> openmediavault : Depends: php5-pam but it is not going to be installed
[20:08] <Drzacek> yeah, I run a debian machine and this is how I normaly do this
[20:08] <ChunkzZ> so, either remove it and try or install it and see if the error comes back
[20:08] <Drzacek> But if the rpi want this, then this is what rpi gonna get
[20:08] <ChrisGR> i am trying to install it
[20:08] <ChrisGR> but is not installing because of that error
[20:08] <ChunkzZ> install the packages it says THEN install it
[20:08] <ChunkzZ> sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade too
[20:09] <ChrisGR> i did all of that.. but not working..
[20:09] <ChunkzZ> you're not on stretch are you?
[20:09] <ChunkzZ> did all of what?
[20:09] <ChrisGR> installed the packages but this error is keep coming
[20:09] <ChunkzZ> maybe get a fresh install...normally fixes it
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[20:09] <ChrisGR> okay let me check again then
[20:10] <ChrisGR> i'll give it a try
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[20:10] <ChunkzZ> fresh install > update everything > try to install what you want without installing anything else.
[20:10] <ChunkzZ> for fun, I'll try.
[20:10] <ChunkzZ> too
[20:10] <ChunkzZ> 1sec
[20:11] <ChunkzZ> what OS are you using ChrisGR ?
[20:11] <ChrisGR> rasbian
[20:11] <ChunkzZ> lite or full?
[20:12] <ChrisGR> the one from noobs
[20:12] <ChrisGR> don't know
[20:12] <ChrisGR> maybe I should install debian full and finish it
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[20:13] <MZ|Alex> finish him!
[20:14] <ChunkzZ> http://forums.openmediavault.org/index.php/Thread/13384-OMV-on-existing-Debian/ hmmm
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[20:21] <ChunkzZ> ChrisGR, did you use this? http://www.htpcguides.com/install-openmediavault-raspberry-pi-nas-server-minibian/
[20:21] <ChunkzZ> because that's broken
[20:21] <ChrisGR> yeap
[20:21] <ChrisGR> i have all those guides
[20:21] <ChunkzZ> can you not just use the image?
[20:21] <ChrisGR> the omv image ?
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[20:22] <ChunkzZ> yeah
[20:22] <ChrisGR> eh.. i wanted to use omv inside raspian .. i don't like using pre-build images that i don't know what stuff they have and what bugs
[20:22] <ChrisGR> but anyway i'm tryimg something last
[20:22] <ChrisGR> then we'll see
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[20:23] <ChunkzZ> trying what?
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[20:25] <ChunkzZ> trying what last?
[20:25] <ChunkzZ> ChrisGR, ^
[20:25] <ChrisGR> to install the packages from the start..
[20:25] <ChrisGR> clean install
[20:25] <ChunkzZ> lmao
[20:25] <ChunkzZ> that's not going to work.
[20:25] <ChunkzZ> let me just quote...
[20:26] <ChunkzZ> "it's not going to work!"
[20:26] <ChunkzZ> :p
[20:26] <ChrisGR> :
[20:26] <ChrisGR> :P
[20:26] <ChrisGR> i will die trying
[20:26] <ChrisGR> 100 years later... "is working"
[20:26] <ChunkzZ> lmao just use the image
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[20:27] <ChunkzZ> you want to use it on raspbian, might as well just use the image. no?
[20:27] <ChunkzZ> same principal
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[20:28] <ChrisGR> okay!
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[20:32] <Crom> after the upgrade to the sewing machine the WD Pi Drive is back on hold for another month
[20:33] <ChunkzZ> Crom, ?
[20:34] <avenger> Crom's sentence looks like a nerdy madlibs
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[20:34] <ChunkzZ> lmao
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[20:38] <Crom> nah just being broke for the rest of the most again
[20:38] <Crom> s/most/month/
[20:40] <ChunkzZ> know that feeling :p
[20:43] <Crom> but I did order a rpi3 w/ canoir camera for me
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[20:52] <Drzacek> unable to initialise DMA channels. Falling back to PIO
[20:52] <Drzacek> - Any idea what this means? I was checking dmesg why this cursed lcd doesnt work
[20:52] <Crom> I put a servo motor a Consew CSM1001 with needle positioner on my Juki DDL-5550 industrial straight stitch sewing machine
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[20:55] <Crom> sew nice, soooo nice to use
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[21:12] <Drzacek> okay, get rid of that error by running rpi-update
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[21:18] <ChunkzZ> why is the god damn pi zero so hard to buy -.- people are putting them on ebay for loads!
[21:19] <TheLostAdmin> do you really need an answer for that?
[21:19] <ChunkzZ> nah, just raging out loud.
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[21:19] <TheLostAdmin> Okay. Rage on.
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[21:19] <Drzacek> were they on sale lately? I didn't get any notification
[21:19] <ChunkzZ> yesterday they was in stock at 6am
[21:19] <Drzacek> Damn, don't say I have to renew those notifications after each buy :/
[21:19] <ChunkzZ> sold out fast
[21:20] <ChunkzZ> hopefully more coming
[21:20] <Drzacek> I imagine, I bought 2, they were always gone in a matter of minutes
[21:20] <ChunkzZ> as the newsletter said anyway
[21:20] <ChunkzZ> yeah, I'm yet to try one. :(
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[21:20] <ChunkzZ> £4.25 is a great price I must admit.
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[21:22] <ChunkzZ> anyway, take it easy.
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[21:24] <Drzacek> well, if you want to buy one, then I strongly suggest to get one of those USB hubs with ethernet port :) it will take some time until it comes from china
[21:24] <Drzacek> aswell miniHDMI->HDMI adapter and USB-OTG cable - this way you don't have to buy this expensive set, and you gonna need those anyway
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[21:29] <ChunkzZ> usb hub ethernet?
[21:29] <ChunkzZ> tell me more?
[21:31] <Drzacek> http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mikro-USB-zum-Netzwerk-LAN-Ethernet-RJ45-Adapter-mit-3-Port-USB-2-0-Hub-Adapter-/391337088237?hash=item5b1d8214ed:g:m~YAAOSwNphWZSeA
[21:31] <Drzacek> you know, the ethernet port on big Rpi is also from usb hub
[21:32] <Drzacek> just watch out, so in the end you won't end paying more for pizero + all externals, than you would pay for rpi2/3
[21:33] <Drzacek> http://www.ebay.de/itm/HDMI-female-to-HDMI-mini-male-Video-Signal-Converter-Adapter-HDTV-Connector-EY-/141924832778?hash=item210b61160a:g:Of4AAOSwr7ZW4C2b
[21:36] <Drzacek> of course I also encourage you to buy from official Raspberry Pi resellers, so they could earn some cash too ^^
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[21:41] <ChunkzZ> Drzacek, https://www.amazon.co.uk/VANDESAIL-3-Port-Ethernet-Adapter-Devices/dp/B019F1EOEM/ref=sr_1_78?ie=UTF8&qid=1462477205&sr=8-78&keywords=usb+to+ethernet
[21:41] <ChunkzZ> will that work?
[21:41] <Drzacek> Don't know, from what I see they all come from china. I'm still waiting for mine to come
[21:42] <ChunkzZ> type c - is that the same as microusb?
[21:45] <GenteelBen> ChunkzZ: NO
[21:45] <GenteelBen> NEVER
[21:45] <GenteelBen> How could you even suggest such a thing?!!!
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[21:45] <Drzacek> wiki says no
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[21:46] <ChunkzZ> lmao
[21:46] <GenteelBen> Type-C is a new physical spec, similar to microUSB but symmetrical along one axis so it can be plugged in either way.
[21:46] <GenteelBen> Right now it's only found on high-end phones released from late 2015 onwards.
[21:46] <GenteelBen> Oh, and tablets.
[21:46] <GenteelBen> Eg. Pixel C charges with USB-C, IIRC.
[21:47] <GenteelBen> USB-C also allows charging @ 3A / 5V.
[21:47] <GenteelBen> I hope this has been educational for you all.
[21:47] <ChunkzZ> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HDMI-Female-to-Mini-HDMI-Type-C-Male-Adapter-Convertor-Gold-Plated-TV-LCD-HDTV-/331567239181?hash=item4d32f2900d:g:NNgAAOSwrklVZnxp
[21:48] <Drzacek> http://www.ebay.de/itm/Ein-Buchse-auf-Micro-B-Stecker-Host-OTG-USB-Verlangerung-Adapter-Kabel-Konverter-/191480884833?hash=item2c95266e61:g:tNsAAOSwxYxUtN2L
[21:48] <Drzacek> ChunkzZ, looks good
[21:48] <GenteelBen> ChunkzZ: that would rely on a device/port supporting HDMI over USB-C.
[21:49] <ChunkzZ> does any pi reseller sell the ethernet lead?
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[21:59] <Drzacek> ChunkzZ, I see one on Adafruit site
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[22:01] <Drzacek> one on pimoroni, but they have normal usb, adafruit has micro usb
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[22:33] <Drzacek> I don't know exactly what dmesg does, but he says 'Failed to start Load Kernel Modules' at some point, which doesn't sound good
[22:33] <H__> dmesg - print or control the kernel ring buffer
[22:34] <H__> that's all it does :)
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[22:35] <Drzacek> H__, yeah, I read that too, didn't make me understand it better
[22:35] <Drzacek> anyway
[22:35] <Drzacek> I have this problem with my lcd screen, and I believe it is somehow related to that error
[22:36] <H__> so the kernel has log messages, it stores these in a 'ring buffer', and dmesg is a way to get to them. Your issue is a kernel module issue
[22:37] <H__> hopefully there's some clue around that 'ailed to start Load Kernel Module' line showing the issue
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[22:38] <Drzacek> http://paste.debian.net/681817/ full dmesg
[22:39] <H__> [ 4.422789] systemd[1]: Cannot add dependency job for unit display-manager.service, ignoring: Unit display-manager.service failed to load: No such file or directory.
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[22:39] <sireorion> hey guys. I need some serius help.. I got an rpi and have installed an wifi dongle. is it possible to share the internet i get from the wifi to ethernet cable?
[22:39] <H__> that "No such file or directory." may be it
[22:39] <sireorion> i have looked like hell on google...
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[22:40] <Polymorphism> If you wanted to protoype electronic product enclosures for testing, one offs, and small batch. Would you: 1.Buy premade metal enclosures and finish with CNC router 2.use cnc router to make enclosures from scratch with sheets of metal 3. get a 3d printer 4. get a laser cutter and use wood//acrylic ? I'd also like to engrave labels and the ability of the CNC to make pcbs and work with metal is tempting... but the 3d printer is nice
[22:40] <Polymorphism> because it just comes out ready to go. the laser cutter is nice because it may cost less, but it might be the most limiting option. What does the room think?
[22:41] <H__> can you maually load the module ? modprobe ? insmod ?
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[22:42] <H__> Polymorphism: I'd model it in 3D and have it printed by Shapeways and shipped to you (but then again i'm biased ;-)
[22:42] <Drzacek> H__, display-manager.service?
[22:43] <H__> Drzacek: does this help ? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=145075
[22:45] <Drzacek> well, I don't even use any gui, why would I need display manager?
[22:46] <H__> you said you had issues with lcd screen
[22:46] <Drzacek> no, it didn't helped
[22:46] <Drzacek> yes
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[22:49] <Polymorphism> H__, I'd like to produce in house
[22:49] <Polymorphism> the machine will pay for itself in time
[22:49] <mfa298> Polymorphism: for flat pieces you then assemble laser cutter is much faster / quieter / cleaner than cnc but may be more limiting on matterials. For PCB's I'd probably just sent them off to one of the fabs - they do two layers as standard (and can do more) which might be more tricky with cnc
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[22:50] <mfa298> if you want a single piece case 3D printer is probably the easier option.
[22:51] <Polymorphism> I did like the idea of the t-slot nut laser cut enclosers
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[22:51] <Polymorphism> plus you can engrave sharp letrtering on wood + acrylic
[22:51] <plugwash> AIUI the tricky bit with homebrew PCB (whether chemical etched or milled) is that PTH chemistry is expensive and finiky
[22:51] <Polymorphism> so I would get two-for-one
[22:51] <Polymorphism> plus its only $350 on ebay vs $3000 for a cnc
[22:52] <plugwash> and building boards without PTH sucks
[22:52] <Polymorphism> is it that bad?
[22:52] <Polymorphism> this is something I've been curious about
[22:52] <mfa298> sireorion: You can and there are pleny of guides out there, im summary you'll want the ethernet setup as the router with dhcp, then setup routing and nat.
[22:52] <Polymorphism> the soldering and assembly of a CNC milled pcb
[22:52] <Polymorphism> its not as straightforward as just soldering onc omponets?
[22:52] <stuartm> my RPi3 wifi can no longer see my wifi network(s), although it can see a half dozen neighbours networks just fine - it was previously working fine and the issue isn't with the wifi network itself, I can only assume that an upgrade broke it but since there was a period where I wasn't using the Pi I can't say the exact moment it no longer worked - any theories what the issue might be?
[22:53] <sireorion> mfa298: yes
[22:53] <plugwash> do you fancy soldering a wire through every damn via? I sure as hell don't
[22:53] <Polymorphism> isnt that just if I want a 2 sided board
[22:53] <stuartm> Did a firmware upgrade increase the sensitivity of the radio or similar?
[22:53] <oq> stuartm: does your router do both 2.5ghz and 5ghz?
[22:54] <stuartm> oq: yes it does
[22:54] <plugwash> well sure but if you have a one sided board you spend your time soldering in a shedload of link wires instead
[22:54] <oq> stuartm: try forcing it on 2.5ghz
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[22:55] <stuartm> oq: the router?
[22:56] <Polymorphism> plugwash, what do you mean? am I fundamentally confused?I thought I could just mill away the material leaving the traces, and then drill the holes
[22:56] <Polymorphism> and solder my components on
[22:56] <oq> stuartm: yeah the pi3 only does 2.5ghz
[22:56] <plugwash> sure for very trivial designs
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[22:56] <plugwash> but sooner or later you find your signals need to cross each other
[22:56] <Polymorphism> http://artfab.art.cmu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/dscn6119.jpg
[22:56] <Polymorphism> like this
[22:56] <oq> 2.4*
[22:57] <Polymorphism> I don't need anything too complicated for boards
[22:57] <Polymorphism> I was even thinking just make boards to solder female headers on
[22:57] <stuartm> that's not even an option with this router, I can disable SSID for 5Ghz so I'll give that a go, though other devices are connecting just fine via 2.4Ghz
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[22:57] <Polymorphism> and then plug arduino modules into it
[22:57] <Polymorphism> and the nano itself
[22:57] <Polymorphism> for very rapid prototyping of ideas
[22:57] <Polymorphism> with no messing jumper wires
[22:57] <stuartm> and it was working just fine 2-3 weeks back with the same router
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[22:59] <stuartm> oq: made no difference
[22:59] <oq> stuartm: it could also be the channel, I noticed on mine it wasn't using channels 12 & 13 regardless of my locale settings until I updated it with rpi-update
[23:00] <oq> usually routers default to auto channel and it switches occasionally depending on what your neighbours sue
[23:00] <oq> use*
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[23:00] <stuartm> hmm, interesting, router supports auto channel switching - possible that it's jumped to a channel the Pi isn't looking at
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[23:00] <stuartm> didn't consider that possibility
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[23:02] <stuartm> will also look at what range of channels it's using, don't remember explicitly selecting the wireless region maybe Raspbian is defaulting to US
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[23:03] <stuartm> oq: thank you! that's done the trick ... forced a common channel and it's once again able to see the network, kicking myself for not thinking of that :)
[23:04] <oq> stuartm: cool, just a guess
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[23:08] <stuartm> ok, set the wifi region correctly and switched the router back to auto, hopefully it will work now
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[23:09] <[Saint]> misconfiguring the wifi region shouldn't ever prevent wireless from functioning directly.
[23:09] <[Saint]> it can certainly prevent it from running /optimally/.
[23:10] <stuartm> [Saint]: it will if the configured region doesn't include the channels that the router is using
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[23:10] <stuartm> region configuration exists to prevent the device operating in restricted frequencies as determined by the regional regulator
[23:10] <[Saint]> That's only going to be a problem for...what, Japan?
[23:11] <[Saint]> And only if you set it to use a single band for some really odd reason.
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[23:11] <stuartm> actually, no, I believe the US has some of the most restricted frequencies
[23:11] <[Saint]> There's a fairly considerable amount of overlap between allowable bands in any given locale.
[23:12] <[Saint]> I can't think of any point where *all* the allowed bands in one locale are excluded in any other just offhand.
[23:12] <stuartm> US supports only 11 2.4Ghz channels as opposed to 13 in the rest of the world
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[23:12] <[Saint]> A majority, sure, but I can't think of any locales that don't share a singular band.
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[23:13] <[Saint]> So unless that actually does exist, which is quite possible, *and* you also configured your system to use that specific band or bands, it shouldn't be a problem.
[23:14] <plugwash> If the router auto-chooses a channel and auto chooses one your device is configured not to use then the device isn't going to see the router.
[23:14] <stuartm> [Saint]: this assumes the router is pre-configured to use one of the common bands, a router with auto-channel hopping won't confine itself to just those channels used in all territories
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[23:26] <H__> Polymorphism: in-house ? ok.
[23:26] <Polymorphism> stuff like this H__ https://www.mysensors.org/build/print
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[23:31] <H__> yep, i see things like that being printed
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[23:32] <wcfields> Are there any SD card images that are analogs to XAMPP? Eg, rapid setup and deployment of a LAMP dev environment?
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[23:34] <[Saint]> Not that I'm aware of, no.
[23:34] <[Saint]> On a pi3, an Ubuntu Server image might be a way forward fairly trivially, though.
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[23:53] <[Saint]> cat "alias do-system-upgrade='time (printf "Doing a full system upgrade now... \n" ; printf "Updating sources now... \n" ; sudo apt-get update ; printf "Done \n" ; printf "Upgrading the system now... \n" ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ; printf "Done \n" ; printf "Removing packages that are no longer required by the system now... \n" ; sudo apt-get autoremove ; printf "Done \n" ; printf "Removing downloaded packages now... \n" ; sudo apt-get
[23:53] <[Saint]> autoclean ; printf "Done \n\n" ; printf "Total elapsed time:")'" >> ~/.bash_aliases
[23:54] <[Saint]> bah.
[23:54] <[Saint]> Learn how to screen session, Hayden. Geez.
[23:54] <[Saint]> *facepalm*
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