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IRC Log for 2016-05-10

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[0:09] <nickgaw> Hi, Why when I try to use the qemu-user-static on Debian can I chroot into my raspbian image but networking does not work and there is no information on the page as to how to fix it? I did comment out the line in /etc/ld.so.preload before chrooting.
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[0:10] <shiftplusone> nickgaw: what do you mean by 'doesn't work'?
[0:10] <nickgaw> I am not able to do things in the chroot like ping google.com and apt-get update.
[0:10] <shiftplusone> can you ping 8.8.8.8?
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[0:11] <Zardoz> new pi3 screenshot http://imgur.com/KN8Omyc
[0:11] <nickgaw> that worked just fine.
[0:11] <Zardoz> DNS?
[0:11] <shiftplusone> zarathushtra: looks good. now get rid of X and you're set.
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[0:11] <shiftplusone> indeed.... dns
[0:12] <shiftplusone> sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /path/to/chroot/etc/
[0:12] <shiftplusone> whoops.... tab completion failed me >=/
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[0:13] <shiftplusone> people shouldn't be allowed to have nicks with more than 2 starting characters in common.
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[0:13] <nickgaw> worked now.
[0:13] <Zardoz> shiftplusone: like @@ or ++ lol
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[0:15] <nickgaw> I have an USB Apple keyboard and tried connecting it to my model 3 with no luck is this because it is Apple?
[0:15] <Zardoz> mmm it should work I would have thought
[0:15] <shiftplusone> nickgaw: should work just fine.
[0:16] <nickgaw> Should it be connected when the device boots or does this not matter when and what USB port?
[0:16] <shiftplusone> doesn't matter
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[0:16] <Zardoz> ^
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[0:17] <nickgaw> Does raspbian support security updates?
[0:17] <shiftplusone> yes
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[0:24] <nickgaw> How do I change the size of the swap file that is created on the model 3 on startup or disable it all together?
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[0:45] <jrg> ok
[0:45] <jrg> i give up... bitcoind just isn't realistic on a pi until there is a repo pkg for it
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[0:46] <jrg> i can't even install an arm debian .deb because raspbian's repo doesn't have depenedencies required for it
[0:46] <jrg> some of the reaspbian repo pkgs are seriously outdated
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[1:01] <Chunkyz> 'elo
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[1:07] <[Saint]> jrg: if you wanna get pedantic, several of bitcoind's dependencies are too _old_, as well.
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[1:10] <Chunkyz> $24.95
[1:10] <Chunkyz> 27 IN STOCK
[1:10] <Chunkyz> pi zero in stock at adafruit!!!!
[1:11] <Chunkyz> only the kits, though. not the zero but itself.
[1:11] <Chunkyz> but the kit includes a zero :p
[1:12] <Syliss> lol
[1:12] <Syliss> maybe ill order one
[1:12] <[Saint]> jrg: one has to ask, though, is there any reason why you're attempting to install bitcoind from an external .deb package?
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[1:13] <Syliss> oh look, adafruit is not responding now
[1:13] <Chunkyz> haha
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[1:13] <[Saint]> jrg: as in, why aren't you just installing it from the raspbian jessie sources?
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[1:14] <Chunkyz> Syliss, working ok here...
[1:14] <Syliss> it finally loaded
[1:14] <Chunkyz> I'd order 1 but it's a US store and I'm UK:(
[1:15] <Chunkyz> oh, well. pihut should be in stock soon.
[1:15] <Syliss> im in the us
[1:15] <Syliss> i wonder if my wife will get madz
[1:15] <Chunkyz> damn you! lol
[1:15] <Chunkyz> what she doesn't know, won't hurt here Syliss haha
[1:16] <[Saint]> Any reason you want a Pi Zero specifically?
[1:16] <Chunkyz> her*
[1:16] <[Saint]> ...something something, ODROID C1+ or ODROID C2.
[1:16] <Chunkyz> [Saint], for a znc. and to tinker with.
[1:16] <[Saint]> Do yourself a favor.
[1:16] <Chunkyz> I have the c1 and xu4, both are crap.
[1:16] <Chunkyz> my pi2/3 pisses all over them.
[1:17] <Chunkyz> even sdcard vs emmc
[1:17] <[Saint]> That's not even remotely close to being true.
[1:17] <Chunkyz> plus, better support
[1:17] <[Saint]> I have no idea how you could be screwing up that badly for that to be even remotely close to truth.
[1:17] <Syliss> [Saint]: idk maybe for my lapdock
[1:17] <[Saint]> ALso, untrue.
[1:17] <Syliss> ill prolly just get a pi 3
[1:17] <Chunkyz> [Saint], y'know you're in a pi channel? get show your fanboyism in #odroid
[1:18] <[Saint]> You know how many fucks I give?
[1:18] <Chunkyz> lmao
[1:18] <Chunkyz> sad life you must have
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[1:18] <Chunkyz> anyway, out.
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[1:19] <[Saint]> Have fun being seventeen different types of wrong bundled into a hilariously defensive mess.
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[1:20] <Chunkyz> [Saint], bless you.
[1:20] <Chunkyz> lurking a raspberrypi channel to slag raspberry pi off....are you on drugs?
[1:21] <Chunkyz> idiot. /ignored
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[1:21] <[Saint]> Point me to where I did do so. I invite you to.
[1:21] <[Saint]> I never did any such thing of the sort.
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[1:21] <BurtyB> yay
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[1:22] * BurtyB *hugs* his pi and odroids :)
[1:22] <[Saint]> I am pretty much adamant that if the 'ol Chunkster there does in fact own any ODROID model with the eMMC addon that he is doing something VERY wrong or is just outright confused.
[1:23] <[Saint]> eMMC on ODROID, hell, even the SD interface on the ODROIDs, is faster than any of the Pi models will ever be.
[1:23] <[Saint]> This is plain unignorable fact.
[1:24] <Syliss> [Saint]: at least their prices are not too bad
[1:24] <[Saint]> I would really love to know what bug was up that guy's butt man...
[1:25] <[Saint]> Anecdotally mentioning Hardkernel exists != "slagging off rpi"
[1:26] <[Saint]> Hell...I don;t need to say it, here, have undeniable proof:
[1:26] <[Saint]> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXAiohgU_co
[1:27] <[Saint]> buffered reads are almost twice as fast.
[1:27] <[Saint]> err...over twice as fast.
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[1:28] <[Saint]> Also, USB3, and gigE.
[1:28] <Syliss> ugh im gonna miss it
[1:29] <[Saint]> Even the C1 takes a dump on any of the Pi iterations. I have no idea what that guy is talking about. I have some very deep suspicions that he doesn't even own the hardware.
[1:29] <[Saint]> I can't see how anyone could possibly make that claim if they did.
[1:30] <[Saint]> USB2 on its own bus, and gigE also, on the C1 and C1+.
[1:30] <BurtyB> [Saint], indeed - on my xu4 I the same hdparm command shows 94.57 MB/sec so it's only getting better :)
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[1:32] <[Saint]> Judging by the way s/he got on the attacking foot, and then quickly left, I'm guessing there was some frantic Googling involved where s/he discovered exactly how wrong they are and decided to nope out before anyone else could state so.
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[1:32] <BurtyB> heh
[1:32] <[Saint]> I'm still wondering how I slagged off the Rpi.
[1:32] <[Saint]> I think the Rpi is great, for what it is.
[1:33] <shauno> or perhaps they had no interest in what's quickly devolving into frankly childish pettiness
[1:33] <[Saint]> Stating plain facts sure are petty. Indeed.
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[1:37] <fred1807> does omxplayer always start 2 processes when running?
[1:37] <Syliss> i missed the pi zero oh well
[1:37] <Syliss> maybe ill pick up a pi 3 and odroid for my bday
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[1:39] <[Saint]> The C2 is a great little device, Syliss. But it really depends what you want it for I guess.
[1:39] <[Saint]> I find the XU4 to be the best "all round" device.
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[1:39] <Syliss> nothin crazy
[1:39] <Syliss> but i dont want to spend a lot
[1:39] <Syliss> just had to put a bunch into my car
[1:39] <[Saint]> Any particular interest in aarch64?
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[1:39] <[Saint]> Like if you have a mind towards 64 bit ARM development, C2 is the clear choice.
[1:40] <[Saint]> If you don't care about the host's bitdepth, it gets a bit messier in which is favorable.
[1:40] <Syliss> nope, not a dev in any form
[1:41] <[Saint]> where are you, geographically?
[1:41] <fred1807> this chanell is so much about odroid
[1:41] <[Saint]> The only real issue with the hardkernel boards is shipping.
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[1:41] <[Saint]> But if you're US based, or close to it, there's always AmeriDroid.
[1:42] <[Saint]> Otherwise the shipping is from China and is a blanket international flat fee, which gets quite expensive.
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[1:44] <[Saint]> The C2 is $40USD iirc, plus ~$20 for 7 day international shipping.
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[1:45] <nickgaw> Is blueman a GUI program or a console based program as I am trying to get the bluetooth radio working in raspbian lite?
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[1:46] <[Saint]> The former.
[1:46] <nickgaw> So should I not install blueman under raspbian lite?
[1:47] <[Saint]> Not unless you want it to try and bring GNOME and all the GTK+ dependencies with it.
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[1:47] <[Saint]> You want bluez from the sounds of things.
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[1:48] <[Saint]> (or rather bluetoothctl, which is supplied by bluez)
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[1:52] <nickgaw> I installed that already so now what do I to to ensure the bluetooth radio is turned on at boot?
[1:52] <[Saint]> nickgaw: incidentally, if you also want to keep that lite installation light, you probably also want to do:
[1:52] <[Saint]> cat > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01norecommend <<EOL
[1:52] <[Saint]> APT::Install-Recommends "0";
[1:52] <[Saint]> APT::Install-Suggests "0";
[1:52] <[Saint]> EOL
[1:52] <Syliss> ugh $60 is a bit much [Saint]
[1:53] <[Saint]> Yeah, but it's one of those "get what you pay for" type deals.
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[1:54] <TheSin> [Saint], or if it's just a one time install you can just do --no-install-recommends on the apt-get line
[1:54] <TheSin> but either one is a good suggestion indeed
[1:54] <[Saint]> TheSin: yeah, I'm aware, personally I favor the reverse and passing --with-recommends
[1:54] <nickgaw> But how do I turn on the bluetooth radio at boot?
[1:55] <nickgaw> For connecting a bluetooth keyboard?
[1:55] <[Saint]> https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser
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[1:56] <[Saint]> note: use the systemd instructions
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[1:56] <TheSin> just noticed something recently changes and my omxplayer boot splash got squashed, and now it complains about dbus, it didn't do that before, though looking into it it shoudl have for over a year :\
[1:56] <TheSin> I hate bugs that creep up on ya
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[1:57] <[Saint]> Oh, another one of my little apt.conf things people might enjoy:
[1:57] <[Saint]> cat > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01showprogress <<EOL
[1:57] <[Saint]> DPKG::Progress "1";
[1:57] <[Saint]> DPKG::Progress-Fancy "1";
[1:57] <[Saint]> EOL
[1:57] <[Saint]> (shows a nice little progressbar during apt fetch and installs)
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[2:10] <nickgaw> How do I switch my raspberrypi 3 from on damand to performance CPU govnering?
[2:10] <Chunkyz> cpufrequtils nickgaw
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[2:10] <Chunkyz> not much of a difference between the 2 nickgaw
[2:11] <nickgaw> I can't over clock my model 3 pi using raspi-config why is this?
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[2:11] <Chunkyz> what do you mean "can't" ?
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[2:11] <Chunkyz> you mean the "raspi-config" "overclock" options? because it's not supported, yet.
[2:11] <nickgaw> raspi-config says this pi can't be overclocked?
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[2:12] <Chunkyz> yeah, not supported yet. we need an update to roll out.
[2:12] <Chunkyz> you can manually do it in /boot/config.txt though
[2:12] <nickgaw> Will it ever be added into raspi-config?
[2:13] <Chunkyz> we'll have to wait for an update to see
[2:13] <nickgaw> Can the temperature just be listted in degreeze C or can it be listted in degreeze F?
[2:14] <Chunkyz> ...
[2:15] <nickgaw> Degreeze Farenhight not celcius?
[2:15] <Chunkyz> Google is your friend.
[2:15] <Chunkyz> seems you're not listening...
[2:15] <nickgaw> so you are saying convert using google?
[2:16] <Chunkyz> convert?
[2:16] <Chunkyz> I am say it's been on the forums so GOOGLE it :p
[2:16] <Chunkyz> saying*
[2:16] <nickgaw> when I used the tools included with the pi to query the temperature it was not listing in degreeze F?
[2:16] <Chunkyz> check the forums.
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[2:23] <jrg> is there something i can install to replace cp that supports smb server side copy?
[2:23] <jrg> it's a bit ridiculous it has to proxy through the pi
[2:23] <jrg> building cloner didn't seem to work
[2:23] <jrg> and it's not a good cp replacement anyways
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[2:51] <JakeSays> once i configure a new pi the way i want it, are there issues if i image the sd card to use as templates for future pi's?
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[3:04] <oq> jakesays: for future pi3's or future pi4's or pi5's?
[3:04] <JakeSays> pi3
[3:04] <JakeSays> i'll have a separate image for pi2
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[3:12] <JakeSays> something keeps resetting my static ip configuration
[3:12] <[Saint]> JakeSays: It isn't really possible to make a statement to that effect.
[3:12] <[Saint]> Also, you should probably be using DHCP reservation tables.
[3:12] <[Saint]> Dedicated static addressing is dead.
[3:13] <JakeSays> i have interfaces configured to assign a static address, but after booting the ip address is the original dhcp assigned one
[3:13] <JakeSays> i've never had this issue on pi's before
[3:13] <JakeSays> weird
[3:14] <[Saint]> Does your router do DHCP reservation? Static addressing on the client side is kinda silly and problematic for a wide range of reasons.
[3:14] <[Saint]> DHCP reservation tables "Just Work" and require zero client side intervention.
[3:15] <JakeSays> it does, yes, but prefer not to use it
[3:15] <[Saint]> Why?
[3:15] <stiv> yeah. static is totally silly unless you always want a fixed ip address
[3:15] <[Saint]> It is vastly superior.
[3:15] <JakeSays> i do always want a fixed ip for my pi's. their configuration is quite fluid.
[3:15] <[Saint]> ANd DHCP reservation provides _exactly that_.
[3:16] <JakeSays> indeed it does
[3:16] <[Saint]> It feels like you're arguing against it without knowing what it is.
[3:16] <[Saint]> Stop me if I'm wrong.
[3:16] <JakeSays> i know what it is. i have several dhcp reservations configured.
[3:16] <[Saint]> What is, then, the reason why you're specifically opting not to use it? I'm genuinely curious.
[3:17] <[Saint]> I can't think of a single situation where DHCP reservation doesn;t outright beat static addressing hands down.
[3:17] <JakeSays> i dont want to mess with my router every time i re-configure a pi. its a pita.
[3:17] <[Saint]> But you'd just have to do so on the pi itself.
[3:18] <[Saint]> Either way you need to configure /something/.
[3:18] <JakeSays> yes, while i'm in the middle of configuring the entire pi. its trivial to do it while i'm already in a configuration mode.
[3:18] <[Saint]> May as well pick the one that works both inside and outside of your network and doesn;t depend on any client side interaction, yeah?
[3:18] <[Saint]> Or am I missing something.
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[3:19] <JakeSays> you are. as i stated, i'm *already* interacting with the client - i'm configuring the pi. doing it there is *trivial*.
[3:19] <[Saint]> re-image the pi? Doesn't matter. Take the pi outside your network? No collisions because it's just using DHCP. Put it back in your network? It just works again, again because of DHCP.
[3:20] <JakeSays> my pi's never leave my network. when i re-image a pi i assign a new ip.
[3:20] <[Saint]> Every way I look at it static addressing provides more work for the user for the same amount of gain.
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[3:20] <JakeSays> and wtf am i justifying myself to you.
[3:21] <[Saint]> Why are you getting so defensive?
[3:21] <stiv> [Saint], why are you banging on about this. we understand your position
[3:21] <JakeSays> ^
[3:22] <[Saint]> stiv: That's nice, but, honestly I don;t care.
[3:22] <[Saint]> You're missing the point entirely.
[3:22] <stiv> that's pretty much our point. we don't either
[3:22] <[Saint]> I want to understand JakeSays' position.
[3:22] <[Saint]> Preferably without unwarranted defensiveness.
[3:23] <[Saint]> I'm genuinely curious at to why a solution with more effort for the same net gain is preferred. Screw me, right?
[3:24] <Berg> I told my router to assign the same ip address to the pi mac address it never needs reseting
[3:24] <[Saint]> Bingo.
[3:24] <JakeSays> i have explained myself more than once. from my point of view it is more work.
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[3:25] <JakeSays> and as i stated, i change ip addresses when i re-image.
[3:25] <Berg> :) its just what i do dint say was right for you
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[3:26] <JakeSays> Berg: i know, and i have several other devices where the ip never changes, and i have reservations for them.
[3:26] <[Saint]> Berg: I do the same also. If any of my machines leave the network they don't care, or collide, and if I re-image any of them or nuke my config, they don't care either and the same addressing just automagically works.
[3:26] <[Saint]> By my understanding static addressing has been being taught as a deprecated notion for years.
[3:26] <Berg> so everyone has there position on this lets move on
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[3:32] <JakeSays> i just need to figure out why my static assignment isn't sticking
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[3:34] <Berg> you need dhcp running
[3:34] <[Saint]> I would be very surprised if it wasn't.
[3:34] <JakeSays> why?
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[3:46] <JakeSays> this is nuts - even with the reservation the ip isn't changing
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[3:51] <Gators> how do I map a windows share on a raspberry pi?
[3:51] <Gators> I keep getting mount error(121): Remote I/O error no matter what
[3:51] <Gators> I googled it and it suggested updating some registry entries, which fixed nothing
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[3:51] <Gators> I can't even browse to my share from the file manager with the smb://blah/blah method either
[3:52] <Crenn-NAS> Anyone tried streaming from one RPi to another using gstreamer?
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[3:55] <JakeSays> doesnt matter what i try i can't get the ip addres to change from the one originally assigned
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[3:59] <Gators> anyone know how to map to a windows share from a raspberry pi?
[4:00] <Gators> I mean, I can do it in 5 seconds from a windows box, but in linux, 1 hour later, can't be done....this is supposed to be good?
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[4:05] <PhotoJim> Gators: samba on the Pi, that lets you share Linux filesystems on Windows. my server runs Linux so I don't do the reverse.
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[4:12] <JakeSays> it also lets you connect to windows shares on linux
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[4:17] <Gators> but I keep getting the io error
[4:17] <Gators> I can't get it to work
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[4:39] <Gators> could I please get some help mapping a network drive?
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[4:43] <Gators> anyone?
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[4:43] <Gators> I mean, I thought mapping to a windows share should be simple enough, but really, no one here knows how?
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[4:53] <Gators> oh my god, does linux do one damn thing I tell it?
[4:54] <Chillum> what protocol?
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[4:56] <Gators> Nevermind, fuck this....I'm returning this piece of garbage and finding something that uses windows
[4:57] <Gators> linux is a poor excuse of an OS, every time I try something with it I regret it.
[4:57] <Gators> It doesn't do a damn thing right.
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[4:58] <Gators> all I want to do is access a fucking windows share, something I can do in 2 damn seconds in windows, but linux is too good for that.
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[4:58] <Gators> and no one here can explain how to do it.
[5:00] <oq> gators: we are just other users dude
[5:00] <Gators> No one in here knows how to map to a windows share?
[5:00] <Gators> What good is a computer that can't access any network files?
[5:00] <Gators> What the hell can you do with a box that can't access any files?
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[5:02] <Chillum> lol, it was not meant for quiters
[5:02] <Gators> I've spent over an hour trying to do a simple process that takes 5 seconds in windows
[5:03] <Chillum> you have note even said what kind of linux you are running
[5:03] <oq> and it's linux, there are literally hundreds of simple solutions for mounting a samba share in linux
[5:03] <Gators> if an OS isn't capable of a 5 second process within an hour, I'll be here for years trying to get it to do one damn thing
[5:03] <Chillum> again, what OS??
[5:03] <Gators> the one that comes with a raspberry pi
[5:03] <Chillum> ...
[5:03] <oq> raspbian?
[5:03] <Gators> yeah
[5:04] <Gators> Ok, I found a command that works, sorta
[5:04] <Gators> https://rasspberrypi.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/mounting-and-automounting-windows-shares-on-raspberry-pi/
[5:04] <stiv> not really a pi-specific problem
[5:04] <Gators> this page, if I add vers=2.1 to the syntax, it works, because the morons that wrote this page left out essential syntax info
[5:04] <Chillum> http://ca.lmgtfy.com/?q=mount+samba+share+on+raspbian
[5:04] <Gators> BUT....the modifying fstab info on this page doesn't work
[5:04] <Chillum> how hard is it to mount a linux share in windows?
[5:05] <Gators> I've been googling this
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[5:06] <oq> gators: the page uses a cli text editor called nano, do you know how to use nano?
[5:07] <Gators> I figured it out well enough and was able to add the line it said to
[5:07] <Gators> running the command, I can get the directory to show the folder contents, but I can't browse it, and it doesn't show up in the gui, so even when I get it to work, it doesn't
[5:07] <Gators> this doesn't fucking work at all
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[5:07] <Gators> just fucking tell me how to fucking get to a fucking windows share on this piece of shit box
[5:08] <Gators> this stupid thing doesn't do a damn thing right
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[5:09] <oq> yes, it's obviously the machines fault
[5:09] <Gators> it's either the machine, the os, or the instructions on the internet
[5:09] <Gators> because I'm doing what the instructions say, and they don't work
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[5:10] <Gators> and meanwhile, no one in this room has been able to give a working method for this, I might point out
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[5:10] <Gators> I could easily tell you right now how to access a windows share from a windows machine.
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[5:10] <Gators> can anyone in here tell me how to do it from linux?
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[5:12] <sponge-tmp> Gators: i think i worked with smb (samba)
[5:12] <Gators> This is what happens every time I touch linux. Before I actually get to trying to do something, I run into a roadblock configuring stupid shit that should be 10 seconds of work in any OS that's actually worthwhile using, and then find a room full of people that can't or won't explain how to do it.
[5:12] <Gators> I want to set it up so every time I power it on, it's mapped.
[5:13] <oq> sponge-tmp: samba hasn't been updating in like forever, it's better to do it with cifs
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[5:14] <Gators> Ok, I seem to have gotten cifs to work when I run the command with the vers syntax, but I can't get it to work from fstab, and for some reason my first folder is missing
[5:14] <Gators> why would it see all but 1 of my folders in the share?
[5:14] <Gators> why would it just leave out a folder?
[5:14] <Gators> why doesn't this just work right?
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[5:20] <Gators> whatever....serves me right for taking seriously an OS that can't even fucking map a network drive.
[5:20] <Gators> screw linux, I'm sending this doorstop back
[5:21] <Gators> screw you all, you're useless, can't even answer a simple question
[5:21] <Zardoz> yeah you sould send i it back...
[5:21] <Zardoz> get back to your windows.
[5:22] <Gators> I don't understand how you're all using this without mapping any drives
[5:22] <Gators> how it's possible that none of you know how to do such a simple operation
[5:22] <Zardoz> I dont have the need to map a drive.
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[5:24] <oq> I don't understand how its possible you're incapable of just mapping a windows share without someone holding your hand
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[5:25] <Gators> I've googled, I've run the commands, they do not work.
[5:25] <Gators> How the hell do you use an OS that isn't capable of accessing data on a network?
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[5:26] <oq> gators: People don't usually use windows computers as file servers because they're not designed to run continously
[5:27] <Zardoz> http://cagewebdev.com/index.php/raspberry-pi-connecting-to-a-network-drive/
[5:27] <Gators> I did that procedure on that link, it does not work.
[5:28] <Zardoz> pi works fine on my netwrok.
[5:29] <pcmerc> reading is hard
[5:29] <Zardoz> pcmerc: it is...
[5:29] <Gators> what the hell am I supposed to use as a server, I'm sure as hell not going to run linux on my desktop, or I'd never get a damn thing done.
[5:29] <pcmerc> lmao
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[5:29] <pcmerc> ya gui's make people helpless when they don't have one
[5:30] <Gators> You fucking elitist linux pricks think your hot shit just because you use linux. I've googled, I've read a lot of pages, I've found nothing that works. I figured asking people that have done this for a little assistance might get me somewhere, but no, once again it's nothing but a bunch of asshole elitist pricks that can't be bothered to answer a simple question
[5:30] <pcmerc> nothing that works doing what?
[5:30] <pcmerc> windows sharing doesn't work?
[5:30] <pcmerc> thats pretty mindless as wel
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[5:31] <pcmerc> keep clicking you only have so many options
[5:31] <Gators> I've been unable to access my windows share from a raspberry pi, and no one has been able to tell me how to get it to work.
[5:31] <Zardoz> oh wow I am elitist. and I consider myself a noob.
[5:31] <Xark> Gators: Good day to you to. :)
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[5:31] <Zardoz> wonder if his windows firewall in on...
[5:31] <pcmerc> so you're using windows
[5:31] <pcmerc> what vers?
[5:31] <pcmerc> 7, 8, 10?
[5:32] <Gators> windows 7 pro 64bit
[5:32] <pcmerc> ok & you have sharing enabled
[5:32] <pcmerc> ?
[5:32] <Gators> yes
[5:32] <pcmerc> firewall enabled?
[5:32] <Gators> I share and map drives all the times on my home network
[5:32] <pcmerc> you need to mount cifs
[5:32] <pcmerc> whats the issue
[5:33] <pcmerc> whats on the pi?
[5:33] <pcmerc> rasbian?
[5:33] <Gators> at this point, I was able to get cifs to work from the terminal, only by adding vers=2.1 to the syntax, since most pages couldn't be bothered to include the full necessary syntax
[5:33] <Gators> But, adding a line to fstab doesn't work
[5:33] <Gators> and, even once I do get it to work, it doesn't show my first folder in the share
[5:33] <pcmerc> do you have the cif utils installed?
[5:34] <Gators> being that I got it to kinda work from the terminal, I think so.
[5:34] <pcmerc> apt-get install cifs-utils
[5:34] <pcmerc> are they already installed
[5:34] <pcmerc> this shit is cake man
[5:34] <Gators> I gave up and put the pi away, I need to calm down before looking at this seriously again, or I'm going to continue insulting random strangers that don't deserve it.
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[5:35] <pcmerc> anger is wasted energy & fixes nothing
[5:35] <pcmerc> ;)
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[5:35] <Zardoz> ah well...
[5:36] <pcmerc> lol
[5:36] <pcmerc> I had the fix
[5:36] <pcmerc> what an asshat
[5:37] <pcmerc> "//192.168.1.1/MOUNTPOINT /mnt/MOUNTPOINT cifs _netdev,noatime,username=CHANGEME,password=CHANGEME,dir_mode=0755,file_mode=0755,uid=500,gid=500 0 0"
[5:37] <pcmerc> boom
[5:37] <pcmerc> whats so hard about that
[5:37] <pcmerc> of course update MOUNTPOINT the other capitals standing out
[5:37] <pcmerc> that in fstab works fine
[5:37] <pcmerc> & no ""
[5:38] <Zardoz> funny thing is I get back on and this guy is spuing all kinds of hate and Kilo Ren on the channel
[5:38] <pcmerc> lmao
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[5:38] <pcmerc> gators was?
[5:38] <pcmerc> comedy
[5:38] <Zardoz> yeah
[5:38] <pcmerc> windows makes some people even more helpless
[5:39] <pcmerc> ok food time
[5:39] <pcmerc> bbl
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[5:46] <Zardoz> lmao http://i.imgur.com/3iPHMRk.gifv
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[5:56] <plum> hiiiii
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[5:59] <Crom> Yo
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[6:00] <Zardoz> hey Crom
[6:00] <sponge-tmp> hello
[6:01] <Crom> Rpi3 hass been very stable at 1300Mhz and 450 GPU and 300 H264
[6:01] <Zardoz> nice...
[6:01] <sponge-tmp> nice
[6:01] <Zardoz> heat syncs?
[6:02] <Crom> Heat sinks, Fan, case Max temp so far 45.38C
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[6:03] <oq> crom: the little heat sinks with the thermal adhesive?
[6:03] <codepython777> I'm looking to build a pi cluster with 16 nodes and a good interconnect. Any suggestions for the networking part?
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[6:03] <Crom> thermal tape
[6:03] <Zardoz> nice 10/100 switch
[6:04] <codepython777> Zardoz: not a 1G switch?
[6:04] <Crom> codepython777, look for a 16 or 20 port switch
[6:04] <Zardoz> codepython777: it would not use it.
[6:04] <Crom> rpi won't use the Gig port
[6:04] <codepython777> do i need managed or unmanaged?
[6:04] <oq> unmanaged
[6:04] <codepython777> rpi doesnt have a gigabit port yet?
[6:04] <Crom> unmanaged is fine
[6:04] <Zardoz> unmsn
[6:05] <Crom> codepython777, nope.. just 10/100
[6:05] <Zardoz> codepython777: nop just 100mbs
[6:05] <Crom> Banana Pi has Gig port
[6:05] <codepython777> ordoid?
[6:05] <Crom> some of the odroids ha=ve gig ports
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[6:07] <Crom> having a management node with a gig port and talk to the RPI's via the 10/100 will work
[6:07] <codepython777> assuming i've a gig port soc
[6:07] <Zardoz> best thing on a switch is get one with a nice backend Switched fabric.
[6:08] <codepython777> Zardoz: what is that? any particular switch recommendations?
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[6:08] <Zardoz> well lets say
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[6:09] <Zardoz> you buy a desktop consumer 16 port switch. the switching fabric on the backend might on be 8Gbs (between all ports)
[6:09] <plum> does anyone know if there are plans to restock the Sense HAT?
[6:10] <plum> i’m looking for it everywhere and it’s all sold out… the only sources I’m seeing it at are now selling it for like double the price
[6:10] <Zardoz> codepython777: wile others might have 16Gbs or higher.
[6:11] <Zardoz> this means that the swirch can handle more internal network trafic betwwen each port.
[6:11] <codepython777> i see
[6:12] <Zardoz> but as you may guess the more it can handle the more the price goes up.
[6:12] <Zardoz> so when looking at switchies look for that backend frabic speed...
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[6:13] <Zardoz> amoung other things
[6:13] <codepython777> Zardoz: http://www.amazon.com/SYSTEMS-24-Port-Gigabit-Switch-SG11224NA/dp/B00VPT8XSQ ?
[6:14] <codepython777> Zardoz: cant find the total bandwidth on that switch
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[6:15] <Zardoz> let me see what I can find
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[6:15] <ball> So, I'm told that some HDMI interfaces have Ethernet in them. Is that true for the Raspberry Pi?
[6:16] <Zardoz> codepython777: Switching capacity : 48 Gbps ¦ Forwarding performance (64-byte packet size) : 35.7 Gbps
[6:16] <oq> ball: no
[6:16] <Xark> ball: Not RPi.
[6:16] <ball> Ah good. Thanks!
[6:16] <Zardoz> ball: it does not have that
[6:16] <Xark> ball: (But yes, it is in HDMI spec)
[6:16] <oq> ball: the pi doesn't even have PoE
[6:17] <codepython777> Zardoz: so if we have all 24 talking to each other , it should be fine?
[6:17] <Zardoz> og I wish it did.
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[6:18] <niston> cool https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryanteckltd/rtkgpio-a-usb-raspberry-pi-compatible-gpio-header?ref=nav_search
[6:18] <niston> GPIO hardware for the PC :>
[6:18] <Zardoz> codepython777: oh yeah and them some.
[6:19] <codepython777> Zardoz: how does 48Gbps get used? Broadcast?
[6:19] <Zardoz> codepython777: you will never reach max. but even ig you had 24x RPi's that would be a max oh ~2.4Gbps
[6:20] <ball> Zardoz: Wouldn't it be more like 96 Mbits/sec?
[6:20] <codepython777> Zardoz: I'll have odroid which do 1Gbps
[6:20] <Zardoz> codepython777: thats backend port to port comms
[6:20] <ball> Zardoz: How fast does the Raspberry Pi ethernet work?
[6:21] <Zardoz> 10/100
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[6:21] <Rukus> 10/100
[6:21] <ball> Right but how fast does it /really/ work? ;-)
[6:21] <Rukus> i transfered a file at 8.9MB/sec once
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[6:21] <Zardoz> I can get ~8MB/s on my network
[6:22] <Zardoz> I seen it spike 10MB/s
[6:22] <ball> That's actually better than I expected.
[6:22] <Rukus> that was through USB >> usb extension cable >> usb to ethernet adapter >> router >> pi >> USB drive connected to pi (don't ask)
[6:22] <ball> That's what, 84 Mbits/sec?
[6:22] <ball> Ah, ok.
[6:22] <Zardoz> yeah 100Mbs and gtting about 8ish is good.
[6:23] <oq> I get a solid 11MB/s reads
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[6:24] <Zardoz> oq: thats really good if it Avg. is that
[6:24] <Rukus> i was wondering if 8.9 was decent
[6:24] <ball> Is the on-board NIC slower?
[6:24] <Rukus> i guess it is
[6:24] <Zardoz> Rukus: it is
[6:24] <Rukus> through my frankenstein connections as well haha\
[6:24] <Zardoz> if you are doign 8-10 you are doing fine.
[6:24] <Rukus> my ethernet cable was too short
[6:24] <Rukus> xD
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[6:26] <Zardoz> codepython777: that cisco switch is a little overkill IMO, but... quality...
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[6:26] <Rukus> so what does that mean for scard reads/write? how limited is the bus?
[6:26] <ball> This week I might buy myself a gigabit Ethernet switch.
[6:27] <ball> (not for the Raspberry Pi though)
[6:27] <Rukus> i found a cisco e2500 router at Value Village for $4cad
[6:28] <oq> zardoz: yeah average
[6:29] <ball> I suppose I could get one of those nice switches that has a few 100M ports and a gigabit uplink port.
[6:29] <Zardoz> I have 2x Dell 2708 switchies, they was cheap (older 1Gbs switchies) but they servce my needs.
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[6:31] <Zardoz> Think i got one for 30 and the other for 20... used.
[6:31] <Zardoz> US btw :P
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[6:33] <ball> Aha! Found a 24-port 100M switch with 4 Gbit uplink ports.
[6:33] <Rukus> this is where i get lost, and realize my biggest decision is, does it have a USB port for my hard drive?
[6:33] <Rukus> xD
[6:34] <oq> a switch with a usb port?
[6:34] <Rukus> haha
[6:34] <Rukus> oops
[6:34] <Rukus> a wireless router
[6:34] <Rukus> see?
[6:34] <Rukus> lost.
[6:34] <oq> mine has a usb port
[6:35] <Rukus> oh nice
[6:35] <Rukus> mine doesnt anymore
[6:35] <Zardoz> most of the time for HDDs, printers, some will take wireless 3g/4g
[6:35] <Rukus> thats pretty cool. my wnr3500lv2 had that capability
[6:36] <oq> zardoz: they'll take anything I tell it to take after I put openwrt on ti
[6:36] <oq> it*
[6:36] <Rukus> maybe one say when i have more time, i could bounce some knowledge from you
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[6:36] <Zardoz> oq: ;-0
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[6:36] <Rukus> yeah, i run Advanced Tomato currently
[6:36] <ball> Now I need to find a USB hub with 24 ports to power the boards. :-)
[6:36] <ball> ...or 24 individual USB PSUs.
[6:36] * ball ponders
[6:36] <Rukus> i also overlocked that bad boy from 300mhz to 400mhz. yup. xD
[6:37] <oq> you could power them off the hdmi ports like that one guy did with his pico projector
[6:37] <Zardoz> flaming router :P
[6:37] <Rukus> :P
[6:37] <Rukus> it was $4
[6:37] <Rukus> i'll be ok
[6:37] <ball> PoE would certainly be nice. Oh well.
[6:37] <Zardoz> yeah it would
[6:38] <Rukus> anyway
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[6:38] <ball> Hmm... 5V x 48 Amps is ...oh, 240W.
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[6:39] <Zardoz> you should power stack the Pis and power them by gpio and atx power supply
[6:39] <Zardoz> sec
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[6:46] <ball> Zardoz: Hmm... perhaps I could also break out the serial pins then.
[6:46] <ball> ...power in and serial in and out.
[6:47] <Zardoz> mmm cant find what I am looking for
[6:50] <ball> U2 syndrome.
[6:50] <Zardoz> lol
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[6:53] <swift110-phone> hey
[6:53] <Zardoz> yo
[6:53] <Rukus> hey
[6:55] <ball> Might put a fuse on there too.
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[6:55] <ball> ...and a reset switch!
[6:55] <ball> ...perhaps add a 1 Tbyte disk.
[6:55] <Zardoz> I was looking for a board that did all that
[6:56] * ball wanders off, muttering quietly to himself.
[6:56] <oq> reset switches are easy
[6:56] <ball> oq: Don't know whether there's a pin for that on the header but I could use a momentary n/c switch on the power.
[6:57] * ball googles for the GPIO pinout
[6:57] <Zardoz> ok, I know not RPi but I am fully off my old NAS and on my new one...
[6:58] <ball> Important question: anyone seen my pen?
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[7:00] <Zardoz> I like how weechat date stamps the new day
[7:02] <ball> Can I feed power in on pins 2 and 6?
[7:03] <Zardoz> is that the 5v and ground?
[7:03] <Zardoz> just no fuse
[7:04] <ball> I see the UART has RTS on pin 11... where's CTS?
[7:05] * ball googles for a better diagram.
[7:05] <Zardoz> ok, google
[7:05] <Zardoz> where is CTS
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[7:08] <ball> Can the PWM output pin drive an LED?
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[7:13] <Crom> not very bright and you want to limit the current to under 10ma I belive with a resister
[7:14] <ball> Oh weird, there's a CTS on pin 36.
[7:14] <ball> Hmm...
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[7:15] <ball> I need more Raspberry Pi B+ or model 2 boards.
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[7:17] <Crom> I'm up to 2 rpi3s's
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[7:18] <Crom> and 2 0's
[7:19] <ball> Am I right in thinking there's no CTS pin on a 26-pin header?
[7:19] <Crom> I'd have to look
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[7:23] <ball> I should turn in.
[7:23] <ball> Goodnight!
[7:23] <ball> Thanks for the help, too!
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[7:25] <Crom> don't see clear to send
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[7:41] <wbill> has anyone got this error before im on a pi 3
[7:41] <wbill> Could not exec dpkg! E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (100)
[7:42] <wbill> i get it when i try to install any packages and then it "blows up" the machine i have to reboot to be able to use any commands or do anything
[7:43] <ShorTie> corrupt sdcard ??
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[7:49] <wbill> ok corrupt sdcard but cant that be a hacker i mean of i reboot it seems to work ok
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[7:54] <wbill> here is the error in full if anyone will help
[7:54] <wbill> http://pastebin.com/6UGWsy1f
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[7:54] <wbill> i just spent a day compiling for a project now this crap
[7:55] <ShorTie> reboot will not fix a corrupt sdcard
[7:56] <wbill> could it be because im dual booting with openelec it got corrupted
[7:56] <wbill> on noobs
[7:57] <ShorTie> i'd scrub noobs and just put an image on it
[7:57] <wbill> got a url how to do that and what image would you use whatos?
[7:57] <wbill> what os?
[7:58] <ShorTie> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
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[8:02] <ShorTie> what kind of power supply and micro-usb power cable are you using ??
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[11:31] <ztane> ubuntu mate rocks.
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[11:31] <MatthewAllan93> join #android
[11:32] <ztane> no
[11:32] <ztane> any recommendations for good PSU for rpi3? euro connector needed ;)
[11:32] <MatthewAllan93> Sorry about that haha
[11:33] <ztane> tried every single one in the office, and the rainbow indicator still blinks almost continuously especially if wifi is on
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[11:34] <ztane> and it does crash...
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[11:35] <mfa298> ztane: I've got the offical rpi psu which seems to do well (5.1V 2.5A)
[11:36] <mfa298> I think others have recommended one from cannakit
[11:36] <lif> I just bought the cheapest one I could find from a local computer store and it works fine
[11:36] <mfa298> Phone chargers won't necessarily do a good job on the Pi3 as they can't always supply enough power.
[11:37] <mfa298> also check the cable, some are very thin so can't handle the current (meaning they get a large voltage drop over the cable)
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[11:40] <GenteelBen> Ubuntu blows goat chunks, ztane.
[11:40] <GenteelBen> Why aren't you using Mint?
[11:41] <GenteelBen> Imagine if somebody took the Ubuntu source code and made something usable out of it - that's Mint.
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[11:49] <ShorTie> ztane sure your micro-usb cable is of good enough quality ??
[11:49] <ShorTie> cheap phone charging cords do not work very well
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[11:55] <GenteelBen> ShorTie: most are terrible, even the ones labelled "official Samsung cable".
[11:56] <GenteelBen> You can basically only trust cables bought directly from the supplier, or ones store-bought with the Samsung/HTC/etc. logo all over the box.
[11:56] <Lartza> I've been lucky with my Nexus 7 charger and cable
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[11:56] <ShorTie> whelp, you gotta look for the 24awg printed on it
[11:57] <ShorTie> i get mine direct from ebay, lol.
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[11:57] <GenteelBen> Yo ShorTie, they lie about that too.
[11:58] <GenteelBen> Lartza: I bought "official" Samsung cables from Amazon which charged my phone at 1A instead of the 2.3A of the official cable.
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[11:59] <Lartza> :D
[11:59] <Lartza> I guess it wasn
[11:59] <Lartza> *wasn't that official then
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[12:00] <mfa298> for the pi you can't really go wrong if you get a designed for pi psu from somewhere reputable.
[12:01] <mfa298> and I consider the extra pennies worth it for saving the hassel in trying a mutlitude of other thigns that may or may not work.
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[12:02] <GenteelBen> Basically every "genuine" cable sold from Amazon is counterfeit.
[12:02] <GenteelBen> The only way to guarantee you get a Samsung cable is to buy directly from Samsung.com.
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[12:02] <NedScott> well that's easy
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[12:03] <mfa298> I'm not sure I'd ever apply reputable to amazon or ebay.
[12:03] <NedScott> don't buy the ones that say they're samsung cables
[12:03] <GenteelBen> What pisses me off is these listings are still up. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Galaxy-Cable-Non-Retail-Packing/dp/B0044EAVSY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1462874348&sr=8-2&keywords=official+samsung+cable
[12:03] <GenteelBen> "Genuine Samsung branded accessory" = obvious fake.
[12:03] <GenteelBen> mfa298 eBay is probably more reliable.
[12:03] <NedScott> also, just buy from actual amazon, and not third party amazon or fufilled-by-amazon
[12:03] <GenteelBen> Listings get taken down if the product is a fake.
[12:03] <GenteelBen> NedScott: you don't understand, my friend.
[12:04] <GenteelBen> There are plenty of items which aren't actually held by Amazon themselves eg. the cables.
[12:04] <GenteelBen> They still say "sold by Amazon".
[12:04] <GenteelBen> Eg. the link I pasted just now, it's "Dispatched from and sold by Amazon".
[12:04] <Lartza> no it's not
[12:04] <Lartza> Dispatched from and sold by Vitastore online uk.
[12:04] <GenteelBen> Lartza YOU FOOL
[12:05] <GenteelBen> YOU FOOLISH FOOL
[12:05] <GenteelBen> Amazon shows you different retailers for some reason.
[12:05] <Lartza> Oh yeah amazon sells it for 4.45 too
[12:05] <ShorTie> be nice GenteelBen
[12:05] <GenteelBen> ShorTie I was quoting Futurama.
[12:05] <GenteelBen> If you're all Family Guy fans I can't be held responsible.
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[12:05] <Lartza> Is it not allowed to like both?
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[12:06] <GenteelBen> ShorTie: Amazon frequently "sell" items which are actually sourced from somewhere else.
[12:06] <GenteelBen> And the Prime item is often higher priced than the non-Prime item.
[12:06] <ShorTie> ah, don't they all ??
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[12:06] <GenteelBen> That's the huge scam that is Prime.
[12:06] <NedScott> in any case, I've bought lots of USB cords from amazon
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[12:06] <GenteelBen> Prime delivery is "free" but Prime items are often more expensive than non-Prime items, by the cost of the delivery (for small items).
[12:06] <ShorTie> buying direct from manufactures is like imposible
[12:06] <NedScott> and they've all been at least 24 awg
[12:06] <GenteelBen> ShorTie: Samesung do have an online store don't they?
[12:07] <GenteelBen> *Shamesung
[12:07] <NedScott> I've got a nice 10 footer that's 24 awg or higher, I think
[12:07] <GenteelBen> Though knowing Samsung the store will only take Samsung Dollars.
[12:07] <NedScott> higher/lower
[12:07] <NedScott> however that works with awg
[12:07] <NedScott> lower
[12:08] <mfa298> lower awg means more copper (unless they're lying)
[12:08] <NedScott> thicker
[12:08] <NedScott> at least
[12:08] <mfa298> and if they're lying about it being official samsung (or similar) why would you believe the awg rating
[12:09] <GenteelBen> Yeah man.
[12:09] <GenteelBen> They all be frontin'.
[12:09] <NedScott> while it's possible they lied about that, they've never let me down power wise
[12:09] <NedScott> everything charges at full speed, no pi gives rainbow squares
[12:09] <NedScott> it's retarded to think that you can't buy something like that on amazon
[12:10] <Lartza> You can't though, if something works but isn't official when sold as one then... huh?
[12:10] <NedScott> what?
[12:10] <NedScott> what are you talking about?
[12:10] <Lartza> That's a let down enough
[12:11] <NedScott> how is it not official?
[12:11] <Lartza> If it's not?
[12:11] <mfa298> NedScott: you may well get some decent cables, you'll probably also get a lot of duff ones.
[12:11] <Lartza> I gathered you were saying if we assume we know something isn't official it doesn't matter since it works?
[12:11] <NedScott> no
[12:11] <mfa298> if I want somethign I know will be good I'd tend to go direct to cpc/rs/other decent shop
[12:12] <NedScott> if someone claims it is an official X brand cable, and it's not, then I wouldn't trust it at all
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[12:13] <NedScott> ah, the 10 footer is 19 AWG
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[12:22] <GenteelBen> TWSS, NedScott.
[12:22] <GenteelBen> Also, the situation with USB-C charging cables is even worse.
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[12:23] <GenteelBen> The Google guy found cables which violated the spec, even ones wrongly wired, which damaged/bricked devices.
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[12:23] <GenteelBen> http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/02/google-engineer-finds-usb-type-c-cable-thats-so-bad-it-fried-his-chromebook-pixel/
[12:24] <NedScott> yes, we've all seen that, but that doesn't say how many cables on amazon are fraudulent
[12:24] <Habbie> it does say what cables you should buy though
[12:25] <NedScott> yeah, but GenteelBen's logic would be to not trust even those, because they're all "lies" even when they say they're a certain cable
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[12:26] <NedScott> it's one thing to keep an eye out for bad deals and bootleg cables, but assuming that all or most are always going to be bad from a site like amazon is a bit much
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[12:30] <GenteelBen> NedScott that wasn't me, that was Lartza.
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[12:30] <GenteelBen> NedScott: it's much easier to produce a fake cable than a fake 65" OLED TV.
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[12:31] <GenteelBen> And Amazon leave obvious fakes up, even though lots of people have complained that the cables are fake.
[12:31] <daveake> History disagrees ... 11:01 AM <GenteelBen> Basically every "genuine" cable sold from Amazon is counterfeit.
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[12:31] <GenteelBen> daveake have you ever seen a listing on Amazon which says "genuine" and is actually genuine?
[12:32] <daveake> You're standing my "every" are you?
[12:32] <daveake> by
[12:33] <GenteelBen> It's my "every" not yours.
[12:34] <daveake> Well, if words have a variable definition, then it's going to be hard to hold a conversation
[12:35] <GenteelBen> Also, most people don't seem to realise their cables are fakes: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Genuine-Samsung-Galaxy-Retail-Packaging-y/dp/B00V6WKOX4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1462876431&sr=8-5&keywords=genuine+cable
[12:35] <GenteelBen> That one has four and a half stars.
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[12:35] <GenteelBen> It works, and it looks genuine, but it charges @ 1A.
[12:35] <GenteelBen> The real cable charges @ 2.3A.
[12:35] <NedScott> so far, all you've been able to show us are cables that claim to be samsung and are sold by third parties
[12:36] <NedScott> what about all of the ones that don't claim to be samsung cables?
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[12:36] <GenteelBen> Those are called "USB cables", NedScott.
[12:37] <NedScott> so you are only claiming that the samsung cables are fake, but no other brand?
[12:38] <GenteelBen> Why am I doing your homework for you? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Apple-Lightning-Charger-retail-packaging/dp/B00CBF6XTE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1462876658&sr=8-2&keywords=genuine+cable
[12:38] <NedScott> GenteelBen: that cable doesn't claim to be MFi certified
[12:39] <GenteelBen> "Item comes with Non Retail Packing and 100% Genuine"
[12:39] <GenteelBen> "This genuine lighting cable is only compatible with genuine apple plugs(manufactured by Foxconn)."
[12:39] <GenteelBen> Yeah, so fake, but sold by Amazon.
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[12:40] <GenteelBen> Do you think Apple provide inventory to resellers without retain packaging?
[12:40] <GenteelBen> "non-retail packaging" is the first alarm bell. Use of the word "genuine" is the second.
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[12:41] <NedScott> you're really dense, you know that?
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[12:41] <NedScott> that listing has a lot of red flags
[12:41] <GenteelBen> You're a moron, NedScott. It's advertised as an official Apple cable - why would it need to say "MFi certified"?
[12:42] <GenteelBen> Except it's obviously not official, as it says "non-retail packaging" and "genuine".
[12:42] <ShorTie> be nice GenteelBen
[12:42] <GenteelBen> "Genuine" doesn't legally mean the same as "official".
[12:43] <GenteelBen> I guess that's why the listings all say genuine and not official, and why Amazon still sells the cables.
[12:43] <NedScott> because even apple uses the MFi mark on official apple products
[12:43] <NedScott> and that's still besides the point. I never said you can't find fakes. I said it was stupid to assume that all or most are fakes simply because some fakes exist
[12:44] <GenteelBen> And to make things worse the manufacturer is listed as Apple.
[12:44] <GenteelBen> Someone can reasonably assume if it says "by Apple" under the product name, it's an Apple product.
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[12:45] <NedScott> for all we know, there is an actual apple cable being sold by one of the 31 venders who claim to have a product that matches that listing
[12:45] <NedScott> apple does sell replacement parts out of normal "retail" packaging
[12:45] <NedScott> though they normally only do it to certified repair shops
[12:45] <NedScott> it's still besides the point
[12:46] <NedScott> this listing doesn't mean the only way I can be sure is to buy a cable Tim Cook himself
[12:47] <NedScott> here's one I bought several months ago: http://amzn.com/B015XASQJI
[12:48] <GenteelBen> ...that is obviously not being advertised as an official cable.
[12:48] <GenteelBen> *official cable made by the manufacturer of the device
[12:48] <NedScott> "Apple MFI Certified Lightning Cable"
[12:48] <GenteelBen> Right, that isn't an Apple cable though. It's Kinps, whoever they are.
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[12:49] <ztane> ShorTie: yeah some of them are also bad ofc
[12:50] <NedScott> GenteelBen: okay, how about this: http://amzn.com/B00XP5KLLK
[12:50] <ztane> mfa298: thanks, didn't realize that "official psu" exists now
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[12:54] <GenteelBen> That one looks real, but it's not a USB charging/data cable is it? It's an adapter which can accept a charging/data cable.
[12:54] <GenteelBen> ztane: make sure it's official, not "100% official" or "genuine".
[12:55] <BurtyB> hmm "lol"
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[12:59] <ztane> GenteelBen: no, ordering from Farnell :P
[13:00] <ztane> this is a business order
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[13:01] <mfa298> ztane: there was an official one before although I think that was only 1A, I think the upgrade came in with the Pi3
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[13:03] <ztane> quite possible; we didn't have any problems with rpi2 but now rpi3 seemed to be a bit flaky with these powers that we have around here.
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[13:05] <mfa298> my experience was that a 1A supply isn't enough for the pi3 (even with nothing else plugged in), the faster cpu and wifi means it's got a slightly higher power draw
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[13:06] <GenteelBen> What about a 1.2A power supply?
[13:09] <mfa298> GenteelBen: you'd have to test it, it might have enoguh to run a pi3 on it's own but doubt it would work with much plugged into it. I think the official spec says use a 2.5A supply so there's enough for usb devices / camera etc.
[13:10] <daveake> An amperage rating isn't the full information, by a long way.
[13:12] <daveake> What matters is the voltage at the Pi when it presents a certain load. "1.2A" doesn't tell you that. The 1.2A might be measured at 4V out or something, and the 1A of another PSU at 5V out. Then, of course, there's the cable's resistance and inductance to take into account.
[13:13] <daveake> istr someone on youtube testing a 1A supply, and it couldn't even manage 1A into a short circuit
[13:13] <GenteelBen> Hmm.
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[13:13] <GenteelBen> Sounds like we should all buy prebuilt, then.
[13:13] <daveake> What does "prebuilt" mean?
[13:13] <shauno> that's pretty common. problem is these are chargers, not power supplies. there is a difference. your phone doesn't care about voltage drops, as long as it can milk 3.7v out of it
[13:14] <mfa298> my advice is get something designed for the Pi from a reputable Pi seller (e.g. https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/plug-in-power-supply/9098126) then you've got a very good chance of it just working and if it doesn't you should be able to return it easily.
[13:15] <ztane> anyone used the piface rtc board?
[13:15] <ztane> I am wondering how securely doe sthat connect to the gpio header... it has just fixed holes after all...
[13:16] <ztane> probably need to solder it anyhow
[13:16] <daveake> I have the PSU that RS gave out with some freebie Pi3s. Built-in cable of 2 thick wires, which give confidence that it's been properly designed for the job.
[13:16] <shauno> ztane: I was looking at those before. I haven't tried it yet, but it looks like they've put some effort into that. the lines aren't straight-aligned, they're kinda offset in a zig-zag pattern, which should give it a lot more friction than you'd expect
[13:17] <shauno> I mean, completely supposition based on the photos, but it does look like they've thought of that and put some effort into it at least
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[13:17] <ztane> yeah, well I am going to order one anyhow :D
[13:18] <ztane> just wondering, will report here what are my findings
[13:18] <shauno> I'd like to hear that. I remember thinking that was clever when I spotted it, would love to know if it actually helps
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[14:20] <pwillard> It does seem clear that it is designed as a press-on, friction fit
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[14:27] <Chunkyz> thepihut had stock of the zero about an hour ago. all gone now :(
[14:27] <Lonefish> is it already the "new" pizero?
[14:28] <shauno> I believe it's still the original one. but I should have one show up today or tomorrow to find out
[14:28] <Lonefish> whatever the new may be, I heard about a new feature on here a week (or something) ago, don't know what the new feature was tho
[14:28] <Lonefish> got any clue as to what the new thingie was?
[14:28] <shauno> unicorns
[14:29] <mfa298> I don't think anyone knows yet
[14:29] <mfa298> or what shauno says
[14:29] <Lonefish> then who said there was a new feature actually?
[14:29] <Lonefish> Unicorns would be rad tho.
[14:29] <mfa298> Eben did on a forum post a few weeks ago
[14:29] <daveake> Well there'll be \ ewro overlap between those who know and those free to say something
[14:29] <daveake> zero ^
[14:29] <shauno> eben said there's a new feature. and that they're ramping production. someone else admitted there was a firmware change made to accomodate it.
[14:30] <shauno> everything else is rumour and guesswork. anyone who knows anything, can't say anything.
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[14:30] <Lonefish> Just wondered, because I couldn't find anything online.
[14:30] <Chunkyz> nah, don't think so Lonefish it's not been announced what the new feature is, old stock I guess.
[14:30] <mfa298> Lonefish: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=951228#p951228
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[14:31] <Lonefish> I just hope they wait long enough and produce enough so we can finally order a few at a time..
[14:31] <mfa298> so based on that post there should be around 50k of the new Zero around somewhere.
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[14:32] <mfa298> Audio header or CSI header seem to be the best guesses.
[14:34] <Lonefish> doesn't the zero have audio out?
[14:34] <daveake> no
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[14:34] <daveake> Some people have hacked the components on
[14:35] <Japa> I have a brand new RPI3 coming in the mail, and I'm wondering which OS I should install onto it. Is Rasbian good for media center use?
[14:35] <stevie86> Hi! Im looking for a method to collect logs from other pis both in the network and over internet. Is graylog what I need?
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[14:36] <Lonefish> Japa, there are specific OS's for media centers, like OSMC
[14:36] <Japa> Yeah, I saw. but I still want to be able to browse the web
[14:36] <Japa> will that be an issue on those?
[14:37] <GRiZL0C> Japa: No for media center use you can install either OSMC Openelec (with kodi) or Librelec (with kodi)
[14:37] <shauno> (or just stick kodi on raspbian)
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[14:38] <Japa> I saw that openElec has chromium, with netflix support
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[14:39] <GRiZL0C> shauno: what's the latest kodi build for raspbian?
[14:39] <GRiZL0C> 15.2?
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[14:40] <Lonefish> netflix support is fixed? Nice..
[14:40] <Japa> but no idea how painful that is to manage
[14:40] <Zardoz> I would put openelec or OSMC if you are going to unit as mediacenter
[14:40] <Zardoz> openlebria is also a fork of openelec
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[14:41] <shauno> GRiZL0C: I'm using 16.1 from the pipplware repo
[14:41] <Japa> I don't want to lose web browsing, though.
[14:41] <GRiZL0C> ok thnx
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[14:42] <Zardoz> but there is always the roll your own...
[14:43] <Japa> truuuue
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[14:43] <Japa> but since I've only had my RP for negative couple days, maybe a bit early for that.
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[14:44] <Zardoz> na, jump in.
[14:46] <shauno> that's the whole point of the pi. use it, abuse it, absolute worst case is you're out 30 quid. more likely you're out the 5 minutes it takes to re-image the sdcard before you try again
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[14:47] <Zardoz> <--- lots of 5 mins spent... lol
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[14:48] <Rukus> zardoz, do sleep?
[14:48] <Rukus> err do you sleep?
[14:49] <matthias-> sleeping is for cats.
[14:49] <Rukus> lol
[14:49] <Zardoz> Rukus: I am not a robot
[14:50] <Rukus> part robot?
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[14:50] <Zardoz> Rukus: I am not robo cop
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[14:51] <Rukus> part cop?
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[14:51] <Zardoz> Rukus: I am not a cop :P
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[14:51] <vegetablesalad19> Hello, can I run Spotify on my raspberry ?
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[14:52] <Habbie> vegetablesalad19, i hear mopidy is a way
[14:52] <vegetablesalad19> Google tells me that ys I can, and then next entry says no I can't
[14:52] <shauno> they're kinda both right
[14:52] <vegetablesalad19> and so on
[14:52] <Zardoz> vegetablesalad19: yeah I have see then samething.
[14:52] <Zardoz> seen the same
[14:52] <vegetablesalad19> I don't even need GUI, just the client
[14:52] <shauno> libspotify works, so you can use the pi as a receiver (if you have a paid account ..)
[14:53] <shauno> but you can't control it from there, you need the spotify client running on something else
[14:53] <lif> https://www.spotify.com/fi/download/linux/ how about this
[14:53] <vegetablesalad19> Nice, thats just what I need
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[14:53] <Rukus> Zardoz: !commands
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[14:54] <vegetablesalad19> lif, I thought that's not for ARM
[14:54] <lif> oh, haven't tried it
[14:55] <Zardoz> Rukus: error
[14:55] <Rukus> :(\
[14:55] <Zardoz> haha
[14:55] <Rukus> xD
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[15:10] <Zardoz> mmm is there a way with apt-get to update a program?
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[15:12] <Japa> Sadness, looks like Netflix is impossible.
[15:13] <mfa298> Zardoz: apt-get update (to get latest package data) and then apt-get upgrade (to install any updated packages)
[15:13] <Japa> I guess I'll just use my 10m HDMI cable when I need that.
[15:13] <mfa298> I think you can also specify particular package names with upgrade to only do those packages
[15:14] <Zardoz> mfa298: yeah but what about a pacage, or is it all or nothing.
[15:15] <mfa298> you might be able to do apt-get upgrade <package> or failign that try apt-get install package
[15:16] <Zardoz> I guess I will try a full one first and if that does not work look into other method.
[15:17] <Chunkyz> Japa, osmc would be great as a media center on the pi 3
[15:17] <mfa298> one of the two I just gave you will probably just upgrade that one package (rather than everything)
[15:18] <mfa298> although for the most part it's worth doign all upgrades anyway
[15:18] <Zardoz> be right back
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[15:23] <Chunkyz> welcome back
[15:23] <Zardoz> I guess raspbian just has an old vers of weechat in the repo.
[15:23] <Zardoz> Chunkyz: ty
[15:24] <Zardoz> btw apt-get upgrade (package) will do just that package....
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[15:25] <Zardoz> I guess I might can comple it....
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[15:25] <Zardoz> mmmm
[15:26] <Zardoz> I guess it's not "broken" I will leave it alone :P
[15:29] <Chunkyz> lol weechat :p
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[15:29] <Chunkyz> Zardoz, apt source jessie backports, sure that's got the latest weechat
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[15:30] <Zardoz> Chunkyz: it does not.
[15:31] <Chunkyz> hmmm
[15:31] <Chunkyz> ok
[15:31] <Zardoz> current stable is 1.5, I have 1.01 and it's about 2 years old
[15:32] <Chunkyz> you on backports?
[15:32] <Zardoz> Chunkyz: sorry, can you please explane?
[15:32] <Chunkyz> in your apt source list, do you have backports enabled?
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[15:33] <Zardoz> Chunkyz: how do I check that?
[15:33] <ztane> anyone here using ubuntu mate on 3?
[15:33] <ztane> kernel oopses in WiFi, anyone else observing?
[15:33] <Chunkyz> so, something like http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free < check in "nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
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[15:34] <Zardoz> let me check
[15:34] <Chunkyz> Zardoz, run that ^ as root
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[15:34] <Chunkyz> chances are you haven't enabled backports that's why weechat is so old.
[15:35] <ztane> hmm seems to be the exact same place as one error report for "official wifi dongle", so I guess the wifi chip is the exact same one on rpi3
[15:35] <Chunkyz> ztane, sup?
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[15:36] <Chunkyz> ubuntu mate on the 3 is slow, compare to miniban/raspbian lite imo.
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[15:37] <Zardoz> Chunkyz: look like jessie main contrib non-free
[15:37] <ztane> could be, I uninstalled the desktop altogether though
[15:37] <ztane> working armhf binaries
[15:37] <Chunkyz> Zardoz, yeah, you'd need backports for latest apps etc
[15:37] <ztane> anyway, the error is this: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/1442
[15:38] <Chunkyz> "http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free" add that Zardoz
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[15:38] <Chunkyz> then "apt update" and try to update weechat
[15:38] <Chunkyz> it'll update other stuff too, though
[15:38] <Zardoz> Chunkyz: I see a coment I can uncomment for that
[15:38] <Zardoz> I will try that
[15:39] <Chunkyz> backports iirc isn't in the default source list
[15:39] <Chunkyz> you gotta add it
[15:42] <Rickta59> is the SPI device limited to 8 bits per word when used with spidev?
[15:42] <Rickta59> rpi 2
[15:42] <Rickta59> reading the bcm docs it seems like the device isn't limited
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[15:43] <Rickta59> however if I have anything but 8 in there it fails
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[15:45] <Rickta59> http://dpaste.com/29VQDDN that is the code I wrote
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[15:53] <Chunkyz> off for a while. bbs.
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[15:53] <Zardoz> wish me luck :P
[15:54] <Zardoz> exit
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[15:55] <Zardoz> ok, that seem to work.
[15:55] <Zardoz> at 1.4 now at least
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[15:59] <Tenkawa> hi all
[15:59] <Zardoz> hellos
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[16:13] <gordonDrogon> Rickta59, you can transfer megabytes at a time via SPI - but only in 8-bit multiples.
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[16:14] <gordonDrogon> Rickta59, if you want to transfer a 24-bit word you just send/get 3 bytes in a single transaction.
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[16:17] <Rickta59> can i use 16 bit words?
[16:17] <Habbie> that's 2*8 bits
[16:18] <gordonDrogon> you just transfer 2 bytes in a single transaction.
[16:18] <Rickta59> ok ..
[16:18] <Rickta59> when i change from 8 bits to 16 ..
[16:18] <gordonDrogon> write (spiFf, buf, 2) ;
[16:18] <Rickta59> i'm not using write
[16:18] <stevie86> anyone have an idea for my logging issue?
[16:18] <Rickta59> i'm using iotctl
[16:18] <gordonDrogon> ioctl...
[16:18] <Rickta59> and the send message
[16:18] <Rickta59> it works fine with 8 bits
[16:18] <Rickta59> if i change to 16 bit data .. it fails with EINVAL
[16:19] <gordonDrogon> right. keep the spi initiasation to 8 bits.
[16:19] <Rickta59> i want to use 16 transfers
[16:19] <Rickta59> as it give me more control over the spi data
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[16:19] <Rickta59> clk / 16 intead of clk/8
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> it's all about the CS lines with SPI. sending 2 bytes is a single CS transaction.
[16:20] <Rickta59> yeah i'
[16:20] <Rickta59> m not even using the cs
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> I know.
[16:20] <Rickta59> i just care about MOSI
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> however that's what it's all about.
[16:21] <Rickta59> sorry i fail to see how my spidev message failing with 16 bit
[16:21] <gordonDrogon> I do not think you'll drive neopixels directly with the Pi's SPI hardware & kernel driver.
[16:21] <Rickta59> vs 8 bit has anything to do with CS
[16:21] <stevie86> I need to be notified of log errors by email... please help!
[16:21] <Rickta59> like i said it works fine with 8
[16:21] <Rickta59> i just have less control over the timing
[16:21] <gordonDrogon> there is a half clock gap between bytes.
[16:21] <Rickta59> 133 ns vs 83.3
[16:21] <Rickta59> there is no gap
[16:21] <Rickta59> i'm sending in one chunk
[16:22] * gordonDrogon shrugs.
[16:22] <Rickta59> i'm looking at it on a scope
[16:22] <Rickta59> there is no gap
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> it's what I observed when writing the SPI code for wiringPi.
[16:22] <Rickta59> are you doing ioctl message calls?
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[16:22] <Habbie> stevie86, have you checked out graylog, that you mentioned, yet?
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[16:22] <Rickta59> and you are sending a chunk of data ... like 4k
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[16:23] <gordonDrogon> although at the hardware level it doesn't really matter.
[16:23] <stevie86> yes, started
[16:23] <Rickta59> with one ioctl call
[16:23] <Rickta59> and one ioctl message
[16:23] <gordonDrogon> yes. 4K to 200K.
[16:23] <stevie86> but i think its a little too sophisticated
[16:23] <gordonDrogon> in one ioctl message.
[16:23] <Rickta59> on an rpi 2?
[16:23] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi works over all Pi versions.
[16:23] <gordonDrogon> the GPIO side of the SoC is the same.
[16:23] <stevie86> i didn't find docs to install it on an rpi 2
[16:24] <stevie86> so i started a vm on virtualbox on a computer
[16:24] <Rickta59> ok .. well i guess i'll just stick with 8 bits
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[16:24] <Rickta59> as it works and the timing is close enough
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[16:24] <Rickta59> i guess in reality that will use less memory anyways for my pulse data
[16:24] <Rickta59> it was more a question for other things i might want to do
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[16:26] <gordonDrogon> the kernel latency is the killer with SPI on the Pi. Sending one byte at a time is very very slow.
[16:26] <Rickta59> yeah i wouldn't try that
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[17:05] <curlyears> does anyone know if RPi3s will support 128GB SDHC cards?
[17:05] <Tenkawa> i think so
[17:06] <Tenkawa> i know it supports the 64 gb ones fine
[17:06] <curlyears> thanks, tenkawa
[17:06] <Tenkawa> I never got around to picking up a 128 yet though
[17:06] <gordonDrogon> still using 4 & 8GB here...
[17:06] <curlyears> 's just that 128 and 256GB SDHC cards are significantly expensive, and I'd hate to spend the money and find I couldn't use it
[17:07] <curlyears> I've just order a 64GB
[17:07] <k\o\w> what did u pay
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[17:07] <curlyears> gordonDrogon: *oah* piker!!! *grin*
[17:08] <curlyears> k\o\w: $14.97
[17:08] <gordonDrogon> pardon?
[17:08] <TheLostAdmin> curlyears, you are probably better off with a smaller SD card and plugging in a USB2 device for bulk storage.
[17:08] <k\o\w> tite
[17:08] <curlyears> just razzing you for being so conservative, gordonDrogon
[17:08] <GRiZL0C> i have 2 rpi3's and both of them use 64gb microsdxc one from samsung the other kingston
[17:08] <gordonDrogon> my storage is elsewhere - I use NFS.
[17:09] <curlyears> ah, then Pi* support USB thumbs as drive? I wasn't certain about that
[17:09] <GRiZL0C> i think rpi3 can have up to 200gb mirosdxc
[17:09] <gordonDrogon> The Pi has always supported USB storage.
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[17:09] <TheLostAdmin> gordonDrogon, NFSv4? with systemd? I haven't been able to get idmapd to start on a raspbian client.
[17:09] <gordonDrogon> I don't use systemd.
[17:09] <TheLostAdmin> Oh. nevermind themn
[17:09] <TheLostAdmin> then
[17:09] <curlyears> gordonDrogon: I am sure you're right, I weas just unaware of it
[17:09] <traeak> yeah git some
[17:10] <traeak> systemd haters unite!
[17:10] <traeak> actually bloated overengineered non unix like borg system managers anti people unite!
[17:10] <mfa298> TheLostAdmin: you don't use idmapd for nfs client any more
[17:10] <TheLostAdmin> I don't 'hate' systemd. I just find that it won't let me properly run NFS, which is a problem as I use NFS for home and other things.
[17:10] <TheLostAdmin> mfa298, then how do I get name-id resolution?
[17:10] <mfa298> I think it's keyutils you need to isntall and then it's done in the kernel
[17:10] <traeak> nfs, smb, kind of pita with systemd
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[17:11] <traeak> totally agree on that count
[17:11] <traeak> the extra layer makes it harder to manage
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[17:11] <ThePendulum> traeak: burg?
[17:11] <traeak> i had to jack with that crap a couple months ago
[17:11] <traeak> borg
[17:11] <ThePendulum> ah
[17:11] <ThePendulum> mein bad
[17:11] <TheLostAdmin> So, the package deps are just messed up. Okay. I'll tyr keyutils.
[17:11] <TheLostAdmin> try
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[17:12] <curlyears> I don't permit Mickey$hit products in my home.
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[17:12] <curlyears> sowwy
[17:12] <traeak> me neither
[17:12] <gordonDrogon> I wonder why systemd would have anything to do with nfs, but I guess... systemd.
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[17:13] <traeak> although i have to break out wine occasionally
[17:13] <gordonDrogon> curlyears, family friendly please.
[17:13] <traeak> apple crap verboten as well
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[17:13] <curlyears> \and a vehicle running under Mickey$hit softwaere is a rolling dweathtrap, in my opinion
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[17:13] <traeak> my sister for some reason loves apple stuff. she's a 3rd grade teacher in an overly rich suburb of seattle
[17:13] * mfa298 has had no issues so far with nfs and systemd, (other than that missing dep), although not quite as easy as it is with ZFS
[17:13] <traeak> i dunno if she's been exposed to chromeos whic hrocks for non tech people
[17:14] <Tenkawa> didnt there use to be a really good game demo, review, etc website?
[17:15] <Tenkawa> i cant think of the name of it
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[17:15] <Tenkawa> i want to catch up on the state of the scene
[17:15] <Tenkawa> Bilby: hey
[17:15] <Tenkawa> Bilby: looked outside recently?
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[17:19] <curlyears> sowwy gordonDrogon
[17:20] <gordonDrogon> curlyears, much as we all hate MS, try to keep it family friendly...
[17:21] <curlyears> gordonDrogon: :understood
[17:21] <curlyears> I can't believe Raspsbeery Pi Foundation is supporting Windows 10 on the4 Pi
[17:21] <curlyears> s/4//
[17:21] <gordonDrogon> It's Win 10 IoT - not the full-blown thing.
[17:22] <curlyears> Aghhhh, but it's still WinBlows
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[17:24] <Rickta59> https://flic.kr/p/G7B1Zd gordonDrogon ... I had to find a usable sd card .. that is a snapshot of the waveform
[17:24] <Rickta59> it doesn't seem like there are any gaps there
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[17:26] <gordonDrogon> not sure what I'm looking at, but when I was checking this all out, there was what appeared to be "clock stretching" between bytes when sending multiple byte transfers. It didn't affect data going to e.g. lcd displays, etc. other than make the time fractionally longer than it should have been.
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[17:28] <Rickta59> that is a capture of the MOSI line going to the ws2811 line
[17:29] <Rickta59> each 8bits is either 0b11000000 or 0b11110000
[17:29] <Rickta59> so i package up 128 bytes of pixel data
[17:29] <Rickta59> and send it in one ioctl message call
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[17:29] <Rickta59> 1/6000000 is the time for each bit
[17:29] <gordonDrogon> try looking at the clock line - although I know you're not using it here. it might affect longer timings - who knows.
[17:29] <Rickta59> 8/6000000 is the time for each b yte
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[17:30] <Rickta59> i have and that has no gaps
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> maybe somethings changed then. it has been documented by others on the forums.
[17:33] <Rickta59> https://flic.kr/p/GW9bxp the spi clk
[17:35] <Rickta59> so anyways my question was more about the bits_per_word and why it doesn't work with 16 bit
[17:35] <gordonDrogon> because its not designed to.
[17:36] <Rickta59> explain please
[17:36] <gordonDrogon> the kernel has the option because other SPI hardware on other systems might work with 16-bit data values.
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[17:36] <gordonDrogon> the kernel is general purpose.
[17:36] <gordonDrogon> and if you want to send 16-bits then you simply write 2 bytes.
[17:36] <Rickta59> so you are indicating the bcm2836 doesn't work with 16 bit data?
[17:36] <gordonDrogon> well... 16 bits is 2 x 8.
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[17:37] <gordonDrogon> SPI is simply clocked data. The Pi's implementation can clock 8 bits at a time.
[17:37] <Rickta59> sure .. but that isn't the same as clocking out 16 bits in one spi call
[17:37] <gordonDrogon> to clock 16 bits, send it 2 x 8-bit values.
[17:37] <gordonDrogon> yes it is.
[17:37] <gordonDrogon> CS goes low, 16 clock ticks go out, 16 data bits go out (and 16 in).
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[17:37] <Rickta59> if i set the memory register every 8 bits .. that is 2 x the number of calls i make to set that register
[17:38] <Rickta59> the memory address of the bcm spi peripheral
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[17:38] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[17:38] <gordonDrogon> it's an 8-bit register.
[17:38] <Rickta59> and me being he kernel
[17:38] <gordonDrogon> the hardware has a FIFO that triggers interrupts to the kernel to fill/empty the fifo.
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[17:39] <Rickta59> i'll have to look at that spidev driver again
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[17:47] <curlyears> does anyone know what the mirrored shiny components just above the HDMI jack on the Pi2 and Pi3 are?
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[17:49] <Rickta59> interesting .. thanks gordonDrogon
[17:49] <daveake> curlyears: L4-L7 ?
[17:50] <daveake> or the single shiny thing U6 ?
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[17:52] <gordonDrogon> Rickta59, there is a new driver which uses DMA though - however I don't know much about it and IMO it's really not needed, although it might reduce the CPU overhead a little.
[17:52] <gordonDrogon> Rickta59, there are also other libraries that poke the hardware directly - these use more cpu.
[17:52] <gordonDrogon> less latency though as no kernel involvement.
[17:52] <Rickta59> yeah i was looking for a low everhead way to do it without doing anything strange
[17:53] <Rickta59> maybe if other stuff is going on this might be a problem however it doesn't seem to lag
[17:53] <gordonDrogon> you can get about 8K transactions/sec over SPI the last time I checked.
[17:53] <Rickta59> or get clock stretched
[17:53] <curlyears> dave0x6d: I suppose thwey could be SMT inductors, yes
[17:53] <gordonDrogon> that's with 1-4 byte transactions obviously.
[17:54] <daveake> L4-L7 will be yes
[17:54] <daveake> The other thing is U8, now I've found a Pi with clearer markings
[17:54] <Rickta59> is there a max limit for the bufsiz on the command line?
[17:54] <Rickta59> i have it set to 128K
[17:55] <BurtyB> curlyears, "U8 is an HDMI auxiliary line ESD clamping device"
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[18:04] <curlyears> BurtyB yeah, that also makes sense
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[18:18] <gordonDrogon> Rickta59, I've set it to 256K for some SPI displays.
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[18:44] <lospheris> Hey does anyone else experience problems with the Pi 3 built in WiFi not starting from cold start? Everytime I apply power I have to do a restart before the WiFi is detected.
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[18:47] <Tenkawa> lospheris: not seen that myself.. does ifconfig show the interface at all when it first starts?
[18:47] <lospheris> Nope, not even dmesg.
[18:48] <lospheris> It is like it is taking to long for the wifi chip to start and it isn't getting picked up.
[18:49] <Tenkawa> is there anything in syslog that would indicate a failure trying to assign it via dt , etc
[18:49] <Tenkawa> ?
[18:50] <Tenkawa> devicetree or systemd could be missing it for some odd reason i "think"
[18:51] <lospheris> let me double check real fast
[18:51] <Tenkawa> ok
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[18:51] <curlyears> *wow* got right in that time. Last time I tried to join, my client spuns its wheels for ten minutes, and never connected to the channel
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[18:59] <lospheris> Tenkawa: Looking back I don't see anything that indicates it is failing. I see hciattach calling BCM43XX_Init as well as the firmware load. I am not seeing anything indicating a failure.
[19:00] <Tenkawa> very odd indeed
[19:00] <lospheris> I'm running the latest raspbian jesse image. It always happens, brand new image or not it seems like.
[19:02] <Tenkawa> hopefully someone else will have some insight because it is definitely puzzling me
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[19:02] <lospheris> Same here. I have googled around about it and I'm not seeing anyone else having the problem. It could be something I am doing very wrong haha. WiFi runs great after the restart though.
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[19:09] <GrandPa-G> I need some help with a wifi config project. I have a Pi 2 CanaKit USB wifi adapter. It works fine but I need to make a script to change ssid with a password.
[19:09] <GrandPa-G> I use wpa_passphrase command to generate a new wap_supplicant.conf file in my local folder.
[19:09] <Tenkawa> GrandPa-G: utilize sudo
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[19:10] <GrandPa-G> I then do a wpa_supplicant -D nl80211 -i wlan0 -c wpa_supplicant.conf command (of course all with sudo)
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[19:11] <Tenkawa> you should be able to wrap all of it in a script with sudo calls
[19:11] <GrandPa-G> Then the light goes out on the USB dongle and I don't seem to have an connectivy. I doing this all remotely.
[19:11] <Tenkawa> ahh
[19:11] <Tenkawa> interesting
[19:12] <GrandPa-G> I may have to put a monitor on it direct to see what is going on but shouldn't this work?
[19:12] <Tenkawa> have you tried using ifup/ifdown calls?
[19:12] <Tenkawa> instead of calling the supplicant directly
[19:12] <GrandPa-G> because I am remote, one sorta kills my ability to do any more
[19:12] <Tenkawa> is this on raspbian?
[19:13] <GrandPa-G> Unless I overwrite wpa_supplicant.conf in etc with wpa_passphrase, how would it know the change.
[19:13] <GrandPa-G> yes, Jessie
[19:14] <Tenkawa> the interfaces file can have all of those settings if i remember correctly
[19:14] <Tenkawa> i dont think you have to interact with the wpa_supplicant.conf directly at all if you set it up that way
[19:15] <Tenkawa> dont quote me though..
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[19:16] <GrandPa-G> I am trying now to have wpa_passphrase use /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf as output directly and see what happens
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[19:17] <zombieman> hey guys im trying to install deluge on my pi and when i launch deluge as demond it works and it will open geluge-gtk but when i try and enable the plugin web-ui i get this error message http://pastebin.com/aVheAhAj
[19:19] <Tenkawa> thats a doozy
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[19:19] <Tenkawa> zombieman: does other x apps work ok?
[19:19] <SopaXorzTaker> Check out my new article: (text in Russian) https://geektimes.ru/post/275544/
[19:21] <SopaXorzTaker> well, try to translate it with bing instead...
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[19:32] <Tenkawa> bbialw
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[20:05] <zombieman> other apps do work
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[20:34] <usrjph> Hi, I have a new RPi3 but it's seems pretty slow with firefox whereas my RPi1 was much smoother, is there a graphics lib I need?
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[20:35] <Lartza> Maybe firefox just got updated and is more bloaty now? :P It's possible you are missing something too though
[20:35] <Lartza> Are you using good X11 video drivers?
[20:36] <usrjph> Quite possible on both
[20:36] <usrjph> Quite possibly not
[20:37] <Lartza> Hmm it shouldn't really affect Firefox that much though
[20:37] <Lartza> What distro?
[20:38] <usrjph> I remember videos on youtube basically playing fine but right now it lags the whole pi out - Raspbian, latest, installed the other day (with the minimal install, which might be why x11 drivers are missing)
[20:38] <Rickta59> I haven't run iceweasel in a while .. it offered to "refresh" to increase performance
[20:38] <Lartza> Ah well YouTube will never work good
[20:38] <Lartza> usrjph, There should be but might not be a package called xserver-xorg-video-fbturbo
[20:39] <Lartza> I have conflicting reports on it working on Jessie...
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[20:39] <usrjph> Lartza: Thanks, giving it a go
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[20:44] <usrjph> It seems to have helped things run a bit smoother
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[20:45] <Lartza> Yeah that should make window dragging etc smoother
[20:45] <Lartza> But like I said, Firefox will always play videos slowly
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[20:45] <Lartza> You'll need to use omxplayer to play videos properly
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[20:50] <ThePendulum> nice, I'm making a web interface for my LEDs, now allowing for patterns to be set with math functions
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[20:51] <Lartza> So like, led1.on(255/0) and it would create a black hole?
[20:52] <Lartza> Functions are fun :)
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[20:55] <ThePendulum> hehehe
[20:55] <ThePendulum> you can do e.g. index % 2 ? 0 : 255 on the red channel and it'll alternate them
[20:56] <Rickta59> so you got your leds lighting ThePendulum ?
[20:56] <ThePendulum> hmm?
[20:56] <ThePendulum> just experimenting, haven't put them up yet
[20:56] <Rickta59> the other day you seemed to be looking for a solution
[20:56] <Rickta59> i guess you found one
[20:57] <ThePendulum> oh I did get them to work, I was just hoping to approach them without using middleware
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[20:57] <Rickta59> did you see the code i posted
[20:57] <ThePendulum> or just an SPI lib instead of specifically a ws2801 lib
[20:57] <ThePendulum> yes
[20:57] <Rickta59> i updated it since the first time
[20:57] <Rickta59> making it rpi specific
[20:57] <Rickta59> and i actually tested it with an rpi
[20:57] <Rickta59> 2
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[20:59] <Rickta59> http://dpaste.com/29VQDDN ThePendulum
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[21:01] <ThePendulum> let me try that in a bit
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[21:01] <Rickta59> gcc -Os -g ws281x.c -o ws281x
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[21:06] <Chunkyz> 'elo
[21:07] <jq-> Chunkyz: HAI
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[21:07] <Chunkyz> dafuq you doing here?
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[21:08] <jq-> Chunkyz: Whai wud i nut b heere?
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[21:09] <Chunkyz> didn't know you were in-to pi's -.-
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[21:10] <jq-> Pshhh I had the first ever pi :P
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[21:10] <Lartza> That's not really much of an achievement :P
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[21:11] <jq-> Lartza: I know :P
[21:11] <jq-> Chunkyz: I'm gonna wire my pi3 up to my stock bmw screen
[21:11] <Chunkyz> my first my was the pi 2 and it was second hand lol and nice!
[21:12] <Chunkyz> my first pi* sue me.
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[21:13] <jq-> Chunkyz: I just don't wanna buy a $250 video module :/
[21:14] <jq-> I need to pick out a good media center OS for it too
[21:14] <jq-> And have a controller solution
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[21:19] <Chunkyz> when the zero is in stock, that'll be my znc for irc. my pi 3 is my "desktop" for internet browsing, downloading and streaming with kodi. just gotta find a use for my pi 2 now. :p I wouldn't pay 250$ for a project though haha
[21:20] <jq-> My car doesn't have bluetooth for media
[21:20] <jq-> Only phone
[21:20] <jq-> So right now I have my old 5s just always plugged in through aux
[21:20] <jq-> But I'd rather have my pi 3 that I booted once in my car instead :P
[21:20] <Chunkyz> you can by them bluetooth sets for cars, no?
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[21:21] <jq-> But the screen is so useless right now
[21:21] <Chunkyz> :(
[21:21] <ThePendulum> damn allowing math functions for RGB is a lot more powerful than I thought it would be
[21:21] <jq-> It's a 2007, the year before they upgraded the computer :P
[21:21] <ThePendulum> going to add hue now
[21:22] <jq-> The 2008 models got a way better interface that is actually useable
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[21:22] <Seriema> anyone using a bluetooth kb they can recommend?
[21:22] <Seriema> that works with rpi 3, without a dongle
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[21:23] <ThePendulum> without a dongle?
[21:23] <ThePendulum> oh the Pi 3 has bluetooth, right
[21:23] <Lartza> :D
[21:23] <Chunkyz> :p
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[21:26] <Drzacek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO9uwNGnH4g For future reference, hope it helps someone. I finally got it working
[21:27] <Lartza> adafruit image should have had that modprobe file though :/
[21:27] <Chunkyz> got what working Drzacek ?
[21:27] <Drzacek> Chunkyz, yeah
[21:28] <Chunkyz> -.-
[21:28] <Drzacek> at least console, since I don't have any gui. Trying to install retropie now
[21:28] <Chunkyz> got WHAT working?
[21:28] <Chunkyz> little lost...
[21:28] <Drzacek> Chunkyz, LCD
[21:28] <Chunkyz> ahhh nice! enjoy. :p
[21:30] <Chunkyz> backed on my miniban on 3 different sd cards incase I break something XD
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[21:36] <Chunkyz> anyway, off.
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[21:41] <etonka> pksato: ty for help with setting video modes for old flat panel, all sorted out and working great. the tips & docs you pointed to got the ball rolling.
[21:44] <Drzacek> I'm curious. How long does it take to INSTALL retropie on raspbian (without sd image)?
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[21:48] <pksato> etonka: welcome.
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[21:57] <TheSin> anyone know of an easy way to monitor hdmi hotplug and run a script on change?
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[22:10] <dave0x6d> TheSin: udev works afaik
[22:12] <TheSin> dave0x6d, got an example? I'll google for it that would rock if I could get that working
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[22:16] <tepidtoaster> anyone bothered compiling Sagemath?
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[22:29] <tepidtoaster> ok
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[23:11] <wasabipi> hey guys im pretty new to raspberry pi. I've got myself an original model B and wanted to set it up to have xbmc and emulation. Is there a good guide on how to do that somewhere?
[23:12] <wasabipi> I found something called Ultraslim, would that be fine for what i need?
[23:13] * H4ndy is now known as h4ndy
[23:14] <Lartza> That project seems to be dead
[23:16] <exonormal> anyone seen the Painsaw?
[23:16] <wasabipi> oh, so is there an established way to have both xbmc and emulators or not really?
[23:16] <Roonix> best of getting retropie and put kodi (the new xmbc) or recalbox (which already has Kodi installed along with Emulation Station)
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[23:17] <Roonix> yes it is possible and easy :)
[23:17] <Roonix> exonormal, the doom chainsaw?
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[23:18] <wasabipi> Roonix: recalbox seems like exactly what I need. Thanks!
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[23:23] <exonormal> yup the doom chainsaw... lol
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[23:23] <exonormal> it was on Google news today
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[23:33] <stormpp> I new in Raspberry: Can anyone help with a some resources or explain to me how can I start the development proccess in OSMC [I have a website where you can do hardware things that need to interact with Pi)
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[23:38] <Roonix> exonormal, yeah that thing was crazy, I only saw a pic of it, didn't see it in action
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[23:57] <[Saint]> Holy exoplanets, batman!
[23:57] <[Saint]> ...1284 new exoplanets discovered.
[23:57] * dhollinger (~dhollinge@12.90.21.202) Quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)
[23:58] <[Saint]> in a ~0.25% of the sky
[23:58] <[Saint]> *piece
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[23:59] <ThePendulum> :O
[23:59] <[Saint]> pretty neat: https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/fig8-new-20use20this20one.jpg?itok=5FjE-hKr
[23:59] <[Saint]> sorry for nasa.gov url barf.
[23:59] <[Saint]> but, yeah, more than double the known exoplanets now.

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