#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2016-05-14

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[0:09] <bberg> Hmm - i need bluez 4.x... anyone know how/have any guidance?
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[0:19] <bberg> in addition, i reformatted my pi.. last night what update/upgrade.. i would get a black screen on reboot... any ideas?
[0:20] <Chunkyz> what OS?
[0:20] <methuzla> reformatted?
[0:20] <Chunkyz> yeah, what?
[0:20] <TheSin> must be DOS if it was reformatted
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[0:20] <Chunkyz> can't update/upgrade DOS tho TheSin
[0:21] <methuzla> also, you can specify a package version: sudo apt-get install package=version
[0:21] <methuzla> something like that
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[0:21] <TheSin> Chunkyz, if you started with 3.3 and upgraded to 6.0 then you could ;)
[0:21] <Chunkyz> lol
[0:21] <TheSin> :D
[0:21] <Chunkyz> doubt he's on about dos though
[0:22] <TheSin> yeah me too, just one of the last times I've heard "reformat"
[0:22] <Berg> what do you call cleaning the disk then?
[0:22] <TheSin> wipe
[0:23] <Berg> reformt is what i call it
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[0:23] <Berg> reformat
[0:23] <TheSin> reformat comes from format.com, I use terms like dd or fdisk or repartitioned etc etc, but I haven't heard format in a long time is all ;)
[0:24] <Berg> its old school
[0:24] <Berg> folks in history used to do it all the time
[0:24] <Berg> hewheheh
[0:24] <TheSin> tis true ;)
[0:25] <bberg> sorry - stepped out to grab a cold one. Raspian Jessie
[0:25] <Berg> plug your monitor in bberg
[0:25] <Chunkyz> lite or full?
[0:25] <bberg> Full.
[0:25] <bberg> Berg: har har. i had a black screen with white cursor after the loading screen
[0:25] <Chunkyz> you've messed up. tried f1 etc?
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[0:26] <bberg> Chunkyz: yep. Even tried redoing it 2 more times.
[0:26] <bberg> I'm afraid to do it now.
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[0:26] <Chunkyz> re-install...
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[0:26] <bberg> I did haha. but not apt-get upgrade/update when i boot up
[0:26] <bberg> but not doing*
[0:26] <Chunkyz> use rufus on windows and dd on linux, update upgrade everything without installing a thing and try again...
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[0:27] <Chunkyz> I've never had an issue updating/upgrading.
[0:27] <bberg> Eh - i'd rather just hold off on update/upgrade until i figure out how to install an older vers of bluez
[0:27] <bberg> Chunkyz: same here, until last night
[0:28] <Chunkyz> you've messed up, Jim.
[0:28] <bberg> that i have, bob
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[0:30] <bberg> but who is going to hold my hand to figure out how to downgrade?
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[0:35] <biberao> bberg: get a dog
[0:35] <biberao> .P
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[0:37] <bberg> biberao: breed?
[0:39] <niston> ramen brothers, ramen
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[3:59] <Gathis> if startx just gives me a black screen, should i just reimage raspbian ?
[4:00] <Gathis> newish install, tried to install kodi, and it seems to have broken.
[4:00] <Chryodem> oh man, do you have anything important on there?
[4:00] <Gathis> nope, not a thing
[4:01] <Chryodem> yep might as well, doesn't take very long
[4:01] <Berg> try setting raspi-config to boot tpo mdesktop?
[4:01] <Berg> desktop
[4:01] <Gathis> thnx, um tpo ?
[4:01] <Gathis> to.
[4:02] <Chryodem> lol typo, he meant to
[4:02] <Gathis> hm not sure how
[4:02] <Berg> im a typo king i can read tyopopo fluently
[4:02] <Chryodem> lol
[4:02] <Gathis> i changed it to boot to CLI, i prefer that usually, but startx is not loading the desktop after attempting to add kodi
[4:03] <Berg> i had that too i gave up on kodi
[4:03] <Berg> try installinmg kodi os
[4:03] <Berg> if it dont work out of the box its broke runb fleee
[4:03] <Gathis> i tried kodi a few months ago on *cough* windoze7, it was interesting
[4:04] <Chryodem> haha!
[4:04] <Berg> don t they have a media OS on the home site of PI
[4:04] <Chryodem> yeah
[4:04] <Berg> they have lots
[4:04] <Chryodem> xcmb
[4:04] <Gathis> the trick was finding a good channel source list :)
[4:04] <Berg> i know one i used worked well
[4:05] <Chryodem> xbmc*
[4:05] <Berg> yeah i read typo ...did i mention thatr
[4:05] <Gathis> what is the recommended way to install kodi on a r pi3 ?
[4:06] <Berg> im not use there Mines still in the mail
[4:06] <Berg> rpi3 b
[4:06] <Gathis> yes
[4:06] <Chryodem> i haven't gotten the three yet...
[4:07] <Berg> try sudo apt-get install kodi
[4:07] <Chryodem> i like my 2's
[4:07] <Berg> me tooo's
[4:07] <Berg> i have 3
[4:07] <Chryodem> my third is on the way
[4:07] <Berg> i have rpi6 then 3x2 is 6
[4:08] <Chryodem> i have one still in the box, one running ubuntu, i have touchscreens on order
[4:08] <Gathis> i tried the GUI package manager, searched kodi, selected the 1st result (don't remember now exactlty what), no errors, but afterwards i couldn't find anything. At that point it loaded the desktop still ok. After that i tried sudo apt-get install kodi, after that is when it screwed
[4:08] <Gathis> i should avoid the GUI tool i suppose
[4:08] <Chryodem> probably
[4:08] <Berg> i have touch screen a cheepy china one is a happy screen
[4:08] <Chryodem> haha!!!
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[4:08] <Berg> but wife wont let mke install it in the car
[4:09] <Gathis> :)
[4:09] <Chryodem> that's what I am getting. plan on turning it into an entertainment center for the kitchen. the third one is for my truck.
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[4:09] <Gathis> thnx guys, will just reimage and try again tomorrow :) gnight all
[4:09] <Berg> sounds lioke a plan i have my old PC as the enterttainment center its unlimited
[4:09] <Chryodem> good night
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[4:10] <Berg> later
[4:10] <Berg> seems to be a problem thats not getting fixed
[4:11] <[Saint]> mlertaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAQW
[4:11] <Berg> sureley they test it?
[4:11] <Chryodem> yeah, i am going to be using an old computer as a NAS when we move and install speakers into the cieling of the kitchen for my wife.
[4:11] <Berg> ha i have that already
[4:11] <Chryodem> dont call me shirley! lolz
[4:11] <[Saint]> jnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhvg
[4:11] <Berg> i have sound system pluged iunto pc
[4:11] <Berg> its wicked
[4:12] <[Saint]> sorry - kittens.
[4:12] <Berg> have a blueray drive in the PC
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[4:12] <[Saint]> pfffffffffft, plugs.
[4:12] <Chryodem> its going to be amazing, the pi will run all the entertainment in my kitchen, then another one for my den when i get another one
[4:12] <[Saint]> I added a chromecast audio into my loom.
[4:12] <[Saint]> no plugs for me.
[4:13] <Berg> the word chrome makes my eyes bleed
[4:13] <Chryodem> haha!!!
[4:13] <Berg> fone home
[4:13] <Berg> anything like that i avoid
[4:13] <[Saint]> Oooooh, I see. You're one of those.
[4:13] <Berg> your one of the others then
[4:13] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
[4:13] <Chryodem> i use chrome and opera.
[4:14] <Berg> its up to you i just avoid it like the plague
[4:14] <Berg> like facebook its poison
[4:14] <[Saint]> you think you do.
[4:14] <Chryodem> and internet explorer for work e-mail. because s/mime
[4:14] <Berg> here we go saint on a roll
[4:14] <sir_galahad_ad> i use Hot Java
[4:14] <Berg> I cant eve3n see face book links they want me to register
[4:15] <[Saint]> I just find it amusing when people pick on things they have little to no clue about and then fail to see the direct contradictions in their life.
[4:15] <Berg> not happening
[4:15] <Berg> i know enough to avoid it
[4:16] <Chryodem> do you use google?
[4:16] <Berg> i cant see how people automatyicaly assume the onbes that dont like programs are clueless dults
[4:16] <Berg> nope
[4:16] <Chryodem> what do you use? duck duck go?
[4:16] <Berg> nope
[4:16] <Berg> i use eday
[4:16] <Berg> thats about it
[4:16] <[Saint]> Berg: it isn't automatic
[4:16] <[Saint]> in your case I make an exception.
[4:16] <Chryodem> eday?
[4:16] <Berg> yes it is look at what you said
[4:17] <Berg> then why confrnt me with it
[4:17] <Berg> confront
[4:17] <Berg> ok move along
[4:17] <Chryodem> lol
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[4:28] <Berg> is minibian and raspbian jessie the same ?
[4:28] <Chryodem> I don't think so.
[4:29] <Berg> https://www.linux.com/news/minibian-jessie-small-and-powerful-os-all-existing-raspberry-pi-versions
[4:29] <Berg> odd name is all
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[4:29] <Berg> november last year
[4:31] <Chryodem> its based on raspbian, but is not it.
[4:31] <Berg> hmm
[4:31] <Berg> might have a look at that
[4:31] <Berg> but jessie lite is excellent anyway
[4:32] <Chryodem> i prefer ubuntu mate
[4:32] <sir_galahad_ad> i think they should make tootie pops with more tootsie and less pop
[4:32] <Chryodem> and galahad out of left field haha
[4:33] * sir_galahad_ad calls 'em as he sees 'em
[4:33] <Chryodem> lol.
[4:33] <Berg> I dont even know tootie pops do they live in australia?
[4:35] <Berg> that OS is 199mb
[4:36] <Chryodem> which one?
[4:36] <Berg> tootie pops
[4:36] <Chryodem> oh lol
[4:36] <Berg> MINIBIAN image for Raspberry Pi
[4:37] <sir_galahad_ad> tootsie pop
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[4:37] <Berg> see i canbt even speel it right
[4:37] <sir_galahad_ad> is a lollypop with a tootsie roll at the centre
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[4:37] <Berg> sounds hoprrinble
[4:38] <Chryodem> its delicious
[4:38] <Berg> whats a tootsie roll?
[4:38] <sir_galahad_ad> it would be better if it was more tootsie roll and less hard candy
[4:38] <Chryodem> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6rHeD5x2tI
[4:38] <sir_galahad_ad> it's basically chocolate taffy
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[4:38] <Berg> Never liked hard candy its just sugar
[4:38] <sir_galahad_ad> exactly
[4:39] <Chryodem> why not just by tootsie rolls?
[4:39] <Berg> sounds good to me
[4:39] <Berg> now i wona go to the cake shop
[4:39] <Berg> youyr fault
[4:39] <Chryodem> lol!
[4:40] <Berg> so who has a pi3 and what os is best still jessie?
[4:40] <Chryodem> ubuntu mate :p
[4:40] <Berg> I use python a lot
[4:40] <sir_galahad_ad> a little bit of the hard candy is good when you finally get it to the point where it's thin enough to bite through to get to the tootsie part
[4:40] <Berg> I have ubuntu mate on this PC too heavy
[4:41] <Berg> I saw mythbusterds they had jaw breakers the size of a tenni9s ball
[4:41] <Berg> i mean come on kids have big mouths but thats not right
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[4:49] <jiblet> any recommended tracks that give similar vibes to birdland by weather report?
[4:55] <[Saint]> jiblet: https://www.youtube.com/v/ZnHmskwqCCQ
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[5:24] <farsonic> hi all
[5:24] <Berg> jello fellow
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[5:25] <farsonic> looking to hook up a PI to a gararge door opener with a relay. My garage door has three pins I can use. 24V, GND and Relay. It isn’t clear which ones I should connect the relay to. 24V + Relay or Relay + GND
[5:25] <farsonic> manual for this thing has nothing on this :)
[5:25] <sir_galahad_ad> bello!
[5:27] <Berg> you could make you pi run a isolated relay then that in turn runds the door?
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[5:28] <farsonic> I’m assuming the 24v is to power the relay (not needed) and relay/gnd shorted
[5:28] <farsonic> yeah, thinking of connecting a relay to the PI and the relay to the garage door opener
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[5:28] <Berg> yes
[5:29] <Berg> if you need to run 24v through the relay thats not an issue
[5:29] <farsonic> or am I completly wrong with my understanding of how to connect this
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[5:29] <Berg> they sell on ebay for 3 or 4 bucks and handle 240v and 3v0vdc
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[5:29] <Berg> you have your door running?
[5:29] <Berg> without the pi?
[5:30] <Berg> the pi runs this relay http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/d/30239-2/SDC10530.JPG
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[5:31] <Berg> that is a 4 channel relay i use it to operate 240vac appliances and also 12v fans dc
[5:31] <farsonic> door works without the pi
[5:31] <farsonic> I have an 8 channel relay I can use here to test
[5:32] <farsonic> this is the only thing I have to work with http://picpaste.com/pics/FullSizeRender-ppGxdSvS.1463196714.jpg
[5:32] <Berg> is it opticoupled?
[5:32] <Berg> so no feed back to pi?
[5:33] <farsonic> relay is one of these (or similar) http://www.sainsmart.com/8-channel-dc-5v-relay-module-for-arduino-pic-arm-dsp-avr-msp430-ttl-logic.html
[5:33] <Berg> thats a good one
[5:33] <Berg> wil;l do the job
[5:34] <Berg> as for how you want your pi to run the dor thats up to you
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[5:34] <Berg> you could have your pi on the net and run you door from a web site on the pi
[5:34] <farsonic> still unsure what the relay should connect to on the controller though….
[5:34] <farsonic> ie, which ones am I shorting out
[5:34] <Berg> Im not willing to advise on that part
[5:35] <farsonic> yeah
[5:35] <farsonic> thats my delema :)
[5:35] <Berg> sorry im not mthat good on electic doors
[5:35] <mlelstv> shouldn't you have at least two relay inputs for opening and closing ?
[5:35] <farsonic> well, I’d think relay open or closed would control up/down ?
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[5:35] <farsonic> a crap manual
[5:36] <mlelstv> you need at least 3 modes. opening, closing and stop.
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[5:36] <farsonic> good call
[5:36] <Berg> using the door switch from the pi might be best
[5:36] <mlelstv> what garage opener is that ?
[5:36] <Berg> what buttons are on the door switch?
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[5:37] <farsonic> door switch is a push button…momentary contact
[5:37] <Berg> if you can run the wires from the door buttons to the relay on the pi bingo your set
[5:37] <farsonic> can I just pulse the relay?
[5:38] <Berg> its only one button?
[5:38] <farsonic> ie, momentary contact
[5:38] <Berg> yes
[5:38] <farsonic> yep, one button
[5:38] <farsonic> that might be simpler
[5:38] <Berg> so you get your pi to activate the button problem solves
[5:38] <Berg> then have your pi on the net ?
[5:38] <farsonic> activate/deactivate
[5:38] <Berg> auto door
[5:39] <Berg> too cool
[5:39] <Berg> yep
[5:39] <Berg> i would rather leave the door system standard and just use the button as normal
[5:40] <Berg> but i never told you that i dislike electronics from afar
[5:41] <Berg> you know how to code farsonic
[5:42] <mlelstv> the "external relay" on your schematic is not for controlling the door. It's the opposite. You can make the door opener control a relay that then is used to turn on a signal light.
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[5:42] <farsonic> code - yes
[5:43] <farsonic> mlelstv - thanks, thats a good insight.
[5:43] <farsonic> makes sense
[5:43] <Berg> s3 on his drawing is the door
[5:43] <Berg> s4 is stop
[5:44] <Berg> i suspect that goes to his door buttons
[5:44] <farsonic> the only thing connected is 3 and 4 on the terminal block
[5:45] <Berg> so use them on the pi if you wona go there
[5:45] <Berg> s3 is open close i suspect s4 is stop as it says
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[5:46] <farsonic> right, so momentary contact switch on S3
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[5:46] <Berg> yep
[5:46] <Berg> you can code that into the pi program
[5:46] <farsonic> using a relay
[5:46] <farsonic> yep, that part is easy
[5:46] <Berg> something like 1/2 a second relay contact
[5:46] <Berg> well looks like your set
[5:46] <farsonic> ok, that sounds like this afternoons project :)
[5:47] <farsonic> followed by a beer if/when successful
[5:47] <Berg> i would add wires to s3 not remove the door button
[5:47] <farsonic> yeah, door button will stay in place
[5:47] <Berg> ok send beer to australia attrention berg
[5:47] <farsonic> I already have a hall effect sensor on the door so can tell when it is open or closed
[5:47] <Berg> good what aboput half way?
[5:48] <Berg> :)
[5:48] <farsonic> no
[5:48] <farsonic> just open/close
[5:48] <farsonic> right, back in a bit
[5:48] <farsonic> will keep you posted
[5:48] <Berg> IF THE its not open and not closed press?
[5:49] <Berg> wait 1min if its not open and noit close press
[5:49] <Berg> check door position
[5:49] <Berg> hello im not anywhere
[5:49] <Berg> sure thing and farsonic images of your set up
[5:49] <Berg> always interested
[5:50] <[Saint]> It isn't immediately obvious at times that you're not a Markov Chain bot.
[5:50] <Berg> coffee time
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[5:58] * Berg has coffee now can rule the world
[5:59] <Berg> we need a world-domination OS
[6:00] <[Saint]> Android.
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[6:27] <binaryhermit> o/me wonders if he still can kernel panic his raspberry pi 3
[6:27] <binaryhermit> err
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[7:44] <wtiger> Hi!
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[7:45] <wtiger> my raspberry pi 3 has corrupted a couple of memory cards i put in there..
[7:45] <wtiger> what might be the cause? I read somewhere that pi should be properly powered...
[7:46] <wtiger> (i was using a 5V == 2A supply)
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[7:48] <Japa> 2A should theroetically be enough
[7:48] <Japa> that said, my pi came with a 5a supply
[7:48] <Japa> I've heard 2.5 recommended
[7:48] <shantorn> wtiger are you telling it to shut down or just pulling the cord?
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[8:00] <wtiger> Japa: so the 5A supply won't harm it?
[8:00] <Japa> No
[8:01] <Japa> 5A refers to the capacity of the supply. The Rpi will only take what it needs.
[8:01] <wtiger> oh ok, great!
[8:01] <Japa> Higher voltage would harm it,
[8:01] <Japa> That said
[8:01] <Japa> 5a means there's still enough amps to also charge my phone from the other USB port on the supply
[8:02] <wtiger> oh cool
[8:02] <wtiger> if I were to attach an external hdd, would need higher amperage, right?
[8:03] <Japa> yeah
[8:03] <wtiger> umm what should I aim for ?
[8:03] <Japa> Though if the HDD has a Y type cord, you would want to plug one of the two plugs directly into an available power supply.
[8:04] <Japa> Rather than depend on the pi for all of the power
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[8:04] <wtiger> it doesn't have the Y type cord..
[8:05] <Japa> You can probably use it anyway
[8:05] <Japa> But yeah, if you're using an HDD, a 2A supply won't cut it.
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[8:06] <wtiger> actually I'm off to purchase a power supply today, how much should be enough for all types of (moderate) use?
[8:07] <wtiger> 5V @ 5A?
[8:07] <Japa> Both
[8:07] <Japa> Or get a powered USB hub.
[8:07] <Japa> That would be safer if you're worried about power draw
[8:08] <[Saint]> Errrr...no?
[8:08] <Japa> No?
[8:08] <[Saint]> No.
[8:08] <Japa> Okay then
[8:08] <Japa> Explain?
[8:09] <[Saint]> Powered hub is good practice in general, but it doesn't really provide any additional degree of safety.
[8:10] <sir_galahad_ad> and then you have to be sure it's a "dumb" hub and that it provides adequate power
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[8:11] * Japa doesn't actually use a portable HDD in any case.
[8:11] <Japa> I had one, which wasn't usb powered, but I pulled it apart and made it internal
[8:14] <wtiger> ok
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[8:17] <Berg> what is wicd-daemon
[8:17] <Berg> it just ask for a user to use it?
[8:17] <wtiger> so a 5V/5A power supply shouldn't hurt the pi
[8:18] <Berg> I dont think a 5amp power supply would be a issue the pi will only use what it needs
[8:19] <wtiger> great!!
[8:20] <Berg> i would make sure its only putting out 5 v
[8:21] <plum> hi
[8:21] <Berg> jellow fellow
[8:21] <plum> i’m having some issues connecting my pi on raspbian Jessie lite to wifi
[8:22] <Berg> what dongle do you have?
[8:22] <plum> would anyone have advice on it? i’d usually do it from within /etc/network/interfaces
[8:22] <plum> errr i’m not sure… it’s a usb one that’s worked on previous versions of raspbian, it’s worked just by plugging it in
[8:23] <plum> it’s almost as old as the B+ i’m working on lol
[8:23] <Berg> https://thepihut.com/blogs/raspberry-pi-tutorials/83502916-how-to-setup-wifi-on-raspbian-jessie-lite
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[8:23] <Berg> just click the page next too the pop up to make it go away
[8:24] <Zardoz> arruggg
[8:24] <plum> i’ll try this out, thank you :)
[8:24] <Berg> what?
[8:24] * Berg peers around!
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[8:25] <Berg> dont buy the dongles
[8:25] <Berg> they english
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[8:28] <plum> hmmm
[8:28] <plum> network is still unreachable
[8:28] <plum> :(
[8:29] <plum> if my ssid is hidden would that provide an issue?
[8:30] <Berg> maybe
[8:30] <Berg> did you have it hidden before?
[8:31] <plum> yeah I configured it successfully on a non-lite raspbian jessie
[8:32] <plum> I don’t recall how exactly >_<
[8:32] <[Saint]> something something, nmcli.
[8:32] <Berg> hmm
[8:33] <Berg> it might be rusty?
[8:33] <Berg> chrome it
[8:33] <[Saint]> 'nmcli dev wifi con SSID password PASSWORD'
[8:33] <[Saint]> no need to futz around with editing by hand.
[8:33] <[Saint]> and, no, it doesn't matter that the SSID is hidden.
[8:34] <[Saint]> As long as you know it, it is fine.
[8:34] <ziddey> "You have to add the scan_ssid=1 to the /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf file "
[8:34] <plum> i’ll try both of these, brb
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[8:35] <[Saint]> and, no, you shouldn;t need to edit wpa_supplicant.conf at all.
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[8:35] <[Saint]> though it is hard to say what state you're in if you've been chicken scratching at this from various other respurces or suggestions.
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[8:36] <Berg> chicken scratcvhin g is how you learn
[8:37] <Berg> in another guid it says add tools
[8:37] <Berg> apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree wireless-tools wpasupplicant -y
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[8:38] <Berg> so many ways to skin a chicken
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[8:39] <[Saint]> wpasupplicant should already be there, and the other two are entirely non-essential except for firmware-linux-nonfree unless you know for a fact that you require a proprietary driver for your interface and that package provides it.
[8:40] <[Saint]> throwing crap at a wall from a missmash of guides you dinf on teh infowebz isn't a particularly practical way of gettings things done.
[8:41] <[Saint]> If it works, and works only by accident, you didn't really learn anything.
[8:42] <plum> nmcli not found :(
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[8:44] <[Saint]> it is provided by networkmanager
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[8:52] <Berg> does jessie light have a network manager?
[8:58] <ShorTie> here is how raspbian is built https://github.com/asb/spindle
[8:59] <ShorTie> light is just the first 3 parts
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[9:05] <plum> dang
[9:05] <plum> I looked at the config for the other pi and the same style config doesn’t work on this one
[9:06] <plum> this is my first time trying lite, maybe that’s it… it may not work with my adapter
[9:06] <plum> but i can still scan networks? i’m so confused
[9:09] <ziddey> you're fine. you just need to define your network in wpa_supplicant.conf
[9:10] <plum> i’ve got my ssid and psk defined in there… and key_mgmt too
[9:11] <ShorTie> have you tried using wicd-curses instead of messing in /etc/network/interfaces ??
[9:11] <ziddey> because it's a hidden network, you need to have it broadcast an explicit probe request
[9:11] <ziddey> scan_ssid=1
[9:12] <plum> maybe i put that in the wrong place… should it be at the top of wpa_supplicant.conf or within the network={} ?
[9:12] <ShorTie> it is better imho because /etc/network/interfaces doesn't provide a way to keep the wifi up where wicd-curses does
[9:12] <plum> i want to try wicd-curses but it’s not built in to lite
[9:12] <plum> :(
[9:12] <[Saint]> nmcli FTW
[9:12] <[Saint]> plum: 'apt-cache search' is your friend.
[9:13] <plum> i don’t have internets though to install
[9:13] <plum> :(
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[9:13] <[Saint]> yet you do, to talk to us?
[9:13] <[Saint]> Interesting.
[9:13] <plum> i’m on my laptop to talk on irc
[9:13] <[Saint]> I'm not seeing the problem.
[9:13] <plum> my wifi isn’t configged on the pi
[9:14] <[Saint]> Do you not have an ethernet cable?
[9:14] <plum> so it’s not connecting to the router… and no ethernet cable to do physical connection
[9:14] <[Saint]> Ah.
[9:14] <[Saint]> Bums.
[9:15] <ShorTie> got a sdcard reader for the laptop ??
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[9:16] <ShorTie> you can just download the deb, then move to sdcard, then install it
[9:16] <plum> sweeeeeeet
[9:16] <plum> i got it
[9:16] <plum> ziddey: scan_ssid=1 works! thank you :D
[9:16] <ziddey> yw
[9:17] <plum> i needed to put it above the ssid assignment in the brackets
[9:18] <Berg> magic ziddey
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[9:20] * [Saint] sniffs
[9:21] <[Saint]> nmcli handles that just fine, you create the interface, and then you specifically bring it up and take it back down once manually, and then after the fact connection to hidden interfaces Just Works.
[9:21] <[Saint]> there's probably a couple of orphaned half conf'd interfaces sitting around on your machine now I would think.
[9:22] <plum> yeah, i’m doing a repo update currently but once it’s finished i’m going to double check them
[9:23] <[Saint]> I realize you figured it out another way, but, for the sake of completion here's how I do it:
[9:24] <[Saint]> nmcli con add type wifi con-name <connect name> ssid <ssid>
[9:24] <[Saint]> nmcli con modify <connect name> wifi-sec.key-mgmt wpa-psk
[9:24] <[Saint]> nmcli con modify <connect name> wifi-sec.psk <password>
[9:24] <[Saint]> nmcli con up <connect name>
[9:25] <plum> right on, i’ll note those down too. it’s nice to get a few different ways to do it :)
[9:25] <[Saint]> I will pretty much never interact with a plaintext config file manually if there's a nice little ncurses based wrapper to do it for me.
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[9:31] <plum> ty again for the help, laptop battery is about to die so i gtg D:
[9:31] <plum> i might hop on tomorrow, cya guys
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[12:26] <h4x3> moin
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[13:10] <endiruna> hi, I have an old camera. I can control it from the computer. is there any advantage using the ribbon pi camera?
[13:12] <Chunkyz> 'elo
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[13:13] <SpeedEvil> endiruna: maybe
[13:13] <SpeedEvil> endiruna: possible lower CPU usage from video, many cameras will not do video even if they will do photos over USB
[13:13] <SpeedEvil> Also lower power, smaller
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[14:34] <Sam54> Hi. (sorry for my french-based english). I spoke here two days ago looking for some help for making an EthToUSB adapter working. I finally rebooted twice my RPi and it worked. Now I have to interfaces (1 per eth port). I want to route all the traffic from eth0 to eth1. Could-you help me ? (my configuration => http://pastebin.com/raw/fungjM2T)
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[14:37] <Sam54> Up ?
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[14:44] <Chryodem> hold on
[14:44] <Chryodem> im looking over your configuration
[14:44] <Sam54> Ok, thank you
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[14:48] <Chryodem> http://superuser.com/questions/943965/how-to-route-traffic-from-one-interface-to-another-regardless-of-source-ip
[14:49] <Chryodem> there is a command in there that might work, have you established any routing rules yet?
[14:50] <Sam54> I tried "route add default gw dev eth0" but it said "SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable"
[14:50] <Chryodem> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1905048
[14:50] <Sam54> I will take a look of your links
[14:50] <Chryodem> read that as well
[14:50] <hypermist> anyone know where i can get a li-ion battery enough to power a pi0 + a 2.2" screen ? (specifically not adafruit their shippings to hectic)
[14:50] <Chryodem> both have good information that explains what you want to do.
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[14:51] <Chryodem> (hypermist): yeah, there are a couple good places, have you tried ebay?
[14:51] <gordonDrogon> normally Linux will "just work" when it comes to routing in a simple fashion with 2 interfaces. you give each adapter it's own network/subnet and off you go. you may need to enable forwarding, but that's it.
[14:51] <Chryodem> you need to do the calculations
[14:51] <hypermist> havent tried ebay as of this time no Chryodem
[14:51] <Chryodem> figure out how much power you'll need based on the time you want the battery to last
[14:52] <hypermist> well i want to follow https://learn.adafruit.com/pigrrl-zero
[14:52] <gordonDrogon> to make sure forwarding is enabled: echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[14:52] <gordonDrogon> (same for ipv6 too)
[14:53] <hypermist> they use a 2000mAH battery
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[14:53] <Sam54> forwarding is enabled
[14:53] <gordonDrogon> Sam54, you don't have an IP address/netmask assigned to eth0
[14:53] <Chryodem> once forwarding is enabled you have to update routing tables
[14:54] <Sam54> ifconfig eth0 <ip> ?
[14:54] <gordonDrogon> Sam54, yes, or put it in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:54] <hypermist> so probs the same Chryodem but if i can get cheaper than yay
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[14:54] <hypermist> because its like 15-30$ worth of shipping for a .95acent product from adafruit hahaha
[14:55] <gordonDrogon> Sam54, are yo sure you want to route, or is the Pi acting as a 2-port ethernet switch?
[14:55] <Sam54> Ok now eth0's address is
[14:55] <gordonDrogon> ok - that's usually all you need. reboot and debian/linux will sort it out.
[14:55] <Sam54> My router is on eth0 and my computer on eth1 I want my computer accessing the net exactly
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[14:55] <Chryodem> �hypermist�: ebay has 2000mAH batteries for like 15 bucks with free shipping
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[14:56] <hypermist> but will it work with the adafruit recharge thing ?
[14:56] <Sam54> Is it better to route the traffic or to make an ip masquerade ?
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> Sam54, so maybe a switch and not a router? Why not just connect the computer directly to the router?
[14:56] <Chryodem> masquerade would be better for what you are trying to do.
[14:56] <Sam54> Because I would like to analysis the incoming traffic.
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> Sam54, ok - you really want a switch here. that's called bridge mode.
[14:57] <Sam54> Ok
[14:57] <Chryodem> which one are you using hypermist?
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> you can assign the bridge an IP address on the same LAN as your router - then you can snoop passing traffic (and filter/firewall if you want to, but that's for another day)
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[14:58] <hypermist> https://www.adafruit.com/products/2465 was the one i was gunan get Chryodem
[14:58] <gordonDrogon> let me pull you a configuration from one of my linux boxes that's doing just that.
[14:58] <Sam54> When I try "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -i eth1 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE it say me I can't use "-i" with POSTROUTING
[14:59] <Chryodem> yes they will work with that, hold on ill get you a link to one on ebay
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> Sam54, http://unicorn.drogon.net/interfaces.bridge.txt
[15:00] <Chryodem> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tenergy-6-0V-2000mAh-Flat-Receiver-RX-NiMH-Battery-Pack-11106-/390946278105?hash=item5b0636cad9:g:NvoAAOxyLN9Se~57
[15:00] <Chryodem> not free shipping, but its only 3 bucks
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> that's an extract from one of my routers - you change eth2 & eth2 into 0 and 1 for you and use an IP address that your router will be happy with.
[15:01] <gordonDrogon> Sam54, you do not need/want Masquerade here.
[15:01] <gordonDrogon> however there are many ways to do this, but this is the easiest.
[15:01] <hypermist> shippings not 3$
[15:01] <Sam54> Ok. In /etc/interfaces ?
[15:01] <gordonDrogon> (I used to do this for a living)
[15:01] <hypermist> the shippings 11USD = 17NZD
[15:01] <gordonDrogon> yes, that's an extract from /etc/interfaces.
[15:01] <Chryodem> oh you are in NZ?
[15:01] <Chryodem> okay, hold on.
[15:01] <hypermist> yea :|
[15:02] <Chryodem> do a search for 2000 mah battery, look for one that has the small black connector if you have that powerbooster from adafruit
[15:02] <gordonDrogon> Sam54, you will need to add in a default route to the existing router then the Pi can see the Internet and the PC will not know the Pi is snooping traffic.
[15:02] <hypermist> i havent got the powerbooster yet. but im planning on it
[15:02] <hypermist> I dont wanna source parts that wont work with it xD
[15:03] <gordonDrogon> well... clever software/users of the PC can find out, however since it's your LAN then ...
[15:03] <Sam54> Ok. I did'nt understand all. I will make you a pastebin to explain.
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[15:05] <gordonDrogon> I'm guessing from what you have said that you want the Pi to be able to see all traffic to/from the PC and the internet via your router?
[15:05] <gordonDrogon> so you're snooping/tracing some programs on the PC?
[15:05] <Chryodem> ..... seems like wireshark would be a better choice, that wouldn't involve a raspberry pi.....
[15:06] <gordonDrogon> So rather than make the Pi a router, you make it a switch, then it's transparent to the network.
[15:06] <gordonDrogon> Chryodem, you usewireshark, etc. after the bridge is setup.
[15:06] <gordonDrogon> assuming you can't run it on the PC in question (or don't want to)
[15:07] <Sam54> The exact project is :
[15:07] <Sam54> - I log suspcicious traffic
[15:08] <Sam54> - I install an IR sensor wich enable traffic only when I am on the computer
[15:08] <gordonDrogon> the Pi isn't the best choice as it's slow and it will slow down the connection from the PC to the Internet.
[15:09] <Sam54> It's not a real problem. I'm making this for learning
[15:09] <gordonDrogon> however if you already have a slow internet conection (say < 30Mb/sec) it'll be fine.
[15:09] <Chryodem> yeah, thats why i was wondering why install the pi just to sniff traffic? but knowing his project changes things.
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[15:10] <hypermist> yeaaa nope wont be able to buy any lipo battery haha
[15:10] <shauno> I had a pi sat between my router and the internet for a while. wasn't fantastic, but would enable this (if you're fine being constrained by the throughput)
[15:10] <Chryodem> aw. that stinks hypermist. Any reason why?
[15:10] <hypermist> Way to pricey to buy anything here
[15:11] <Chryodem> hmmmm.... wonder how much it would cost for me to send you one.
[15:11] <hypermist> Dont sweat it Chryodem
[15:11] <hypermist> I'll just be saving for the next 6months
[15:11] <hypermist> ._.
[15:11] <Chryodem> lol! i mean they are super cheap for me through ebay
[15:11] <hypermist> yea its about 10-20$ to ship to me lol
[15:12] <Sam54> http://pastebin.com/raw/wriH3pnr | Summary
[15:12] <Chryodem> jibbers crabst.... thats a lot for a little battery
[15:13] <hypermist> from adafruit to get something thats 95cents
[15:13] <hypermist> its 15$ shipping
[15:13] <hypermist> Lol :D
[15:13] <Chryodem> what city?
[15:13] <Chryodem> in NZ
[15:14] <Sam54> @gordonDrogon is it correct
[15:15] <gordonDrogon> well, no.
[15:15] <gordonDrogon> let go back to the start.
[15:15] <Sam54> Ok
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[15:15] <gordonDrogon> if you want the Pi to act as a bridge (ie. a 2-port Ethernet switch) then you don't assign any IP address to the interfaces.
[15:15] <hypermist> Taranaki/Newplymouth Chryodem
[15:16] <Sam54> hmm ok
[15:16] <gordonDrogon> You use the interfaces to create a bridge, (which gives you a new network interface which you can name; I called mine in my posted example 'bridgeLan') then you assign an IP address to the bridge interface.
[15:16] <Sam54> Ok
[15:17] <gordonDrogon> The IP address is one you pick that works with your router. e.g. if your router would normally give out through via DHCP, then you pick a static one outside that range. You will need to know what your router does to work this out.
[15:17] <gordonDrogon> to make the Pi a 2-port Ethernet switch, you use the details I posted earlier - except you use eth0 and eth1 - it just happens that that device I copied that from has 5 ethernet ports...
[15:18] <gordonDrogon> so the IP addresses in the iface bridgeLan ... section need to match your router. Also add in a gateway statement too.
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[15:19] <gordonDrogon> however, you don't have to give the Pi an IP address at all if you don't want to. But if you do that then the Pi can't connect to the Internet for updates, etc.
[15:19] <gordonDrogon> the pi then acts like a 2-port Ethernet switch.
[15:19] <Sam54> Ok. If
[15:21] <Sam54> I understood all : I have 2 interfaces eth0 and eth1. (in your example) the pi redirect traffic from eth2 and eth3 to bridgeLan ? then I make eth0 replacing the bridgeLan ?
[15:21] <gordonDrogon> don't think 'redirect' think switch.
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[15:22] <gordonDrogon> you are making a software controlled ethernet switch.
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[15:23] <gordonDrogon> reload: http://unicorn.drogon.net/interfaces.bridge.txt
[15:23] <gordonDrogon> I've edited it for you to say eth0 & eth1
[15:23] <Chryodem> 190.32 NZD for fed ex.... holy jeebus
[15:23] <Sam54> I did it
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[15:24] <Sam54> In fact I don't understand what are gateway and address in the configuration
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[15:25] <gordonDrogon> address is the IP address of the interface. gateway is the IP address of your router.
[15:26] <gordonDrogon> I strongly suggest that at this point you go and do some more reading/reaseach on how basic LAN networking works - terms & teminology.
[15:26] <Chryodem> holy grab 35 USD for USPS....
[15:26] <Sam54> Ok, I will
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[15:29] <Chryodem> https://www.youtube.com/user/NetworKingInc
[15:29] <Chryodem> really great youtube tutorials that I used to help with my CCNA test
[15:30] <hypermist> ea Chryodem see what i mean
[15:31] <Sam54> the final configuration http://pastebin.com/raw/p5ThG5Zn is correct ?
[15:31] <gordonDrogon> it looks ok.
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[15:32] <gordonDrogon> give it a go - reboot the Pi, login from screen/keyboard, see if you can still ping
[15:32] <gordonDrogon> then see if you can pin the PC, then see if the PC can ping
[15:32] <Sam54> Ok. And with it can my RPi access the internet ?
[15:32] <gordonDrogon> it should be able to, assuming is the IP address of your router (only you know that)
[15:33] <Sam54> Ok. I try it and come back in 2 minutes.
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[15:34] <Chryodem> ............ i don't know how i feel about that parting message lol
[15:35] <shauno> just be glad clients can't set a join message
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[15:37] <Sam54> re
[15:37] <Sam54> The computer detect no network connection. (ubuntu 14.04)
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[15:40] <gordonDrogon> You're running ubuntu on the PC. Here was me stupidly thinking it was MS Windows.
[15:41] <gordonDrogon> Since you're running Linux on the PC, then you have access to all the wireshark tools, etc. without the need for a Pi.
[15:42] <Sam54> Ok. Really thank you for your generous help but I have to go. I will be tomorow
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> However now you need to start learning - there is only so-much you can copy & paste. You'll need to do the debugging now. Is the bridge interface running? can the Pi see the Internet, can you snoop traffic (tcpdump/wireshark/etc) data on each LAN, etc ...
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[15:42] <gordonDrogon> you're the only one in the position to check all this...
[15:43] <Chryodem> and he leaves.
[15:43] <Chryodem> i run wireshark all the time on my win10 pc
[15:44] <gordonDrogon> I have no Windows PCs these days - I've really no idea what runs on them now.
[15:44] <Chryodem> lol, I only use it for games mostly, i am actually about to put ubuntu on a couple different laptops.
[15:44] <Chryodem> one for me, one for my wife
[15:45] <gordonDrogon> my wife used to use Linux, now moved to world of apple.
[15:45] <Chryodem> oh no!!!
[15:46] <Chryodem> I am actually putting it on there because it has win8.1, but it runs like crap
[15:46] <gordonDrogon> it seems to "just work" for her, so I leave her to it.
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[15:47] <Chryodem> lol, my wife used to use apple, there is actually a 27" imac in our kitchen right now
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[15:48] <Chryodem> now i just need an ubuntu boot usb
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> ah, my favourite customer has just ordered more cake :)
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[15:49] <Rickta59> cake? is that a pi competitor?
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> haha :)
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> lovely yummy cake.
[15:49] <Chryodem> i want a cake!
[15:49] <Rickta59> a cake would be multi layer I bet
[15:50] <gordonDrogon> yes, the 7-layer cake protocol ...
[15:50] <Chryodem> haha
[15:50] <Chryodem> i am out of thumb drives
[15:51] <Chryodem> i put tails on my last one.
[15:51] <hypermist> i have win10 just for my gaming
[15:51] <hypermist> xD
[15:51] <gordonDrogon> I got a new (2nd hand) TV recently. it has an ethernet socket on the back. wonder how soul stealing it is ...
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[15:52] <Chryodem> lol! we have a tv in our living room that has wifi, kids love it for netflix.
[15:52] <gordonDrogon> I was thinking of putting a Pi 3 on the back to talk to the home Wi-Fi then Ethernet into the TV to let the TV play "media", then I thought - duh - the TV has HDMI inputs too..
[15:53] <Chryodem> haha
[15:53] <gordonDrogon> however making the Pi a media server might be easier to setup then use the TVs menus/remote than trying to run whatever the video player of the day is on the Pi with (another) remote thingy ...
[15:53] <Chryodem> pi 3s for 40 bucks on newegg
[15:54] * gordonDrogon is in the UK. I buy from Pimoroni. I have a few Pi 3's anyway.
[15:54] <Chryodem> it seems almost no one in the US actually uses pi's...
[15:54] * sir_galahad_ad would rather have pi zeroes at their advertised price
[15:54] <shauno> bought a pi zero at the advertised price last week
[15:55] <Chryodem> everytime i bring them up at work, everyone looks at me quizically
[15:55] <Rickta59> i had read a post someplace that says the pi zeros are going to start becoming available in qty soon .. has anyone else seen that .. and if so where is the best place to get one in the US?
[15:55] <shauno> apparently the usual 4 are all getting stock of the updated revision on monday
[15:55] <shauno> so that'd be adafruit & microcenter for the US
[15:55] <Rickta59> ah ..
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[15:56] <Rickta59> no microcenter near me .. shipping for a zero last time i checked was about $14 to here
[15:56] <shauno> hopefully if they're finally producing them at the required volumes, they'll start to show up at other outlets too
[15:57] <Rickta59> i wish digikey had them
[15:57] <shauno> but for now, that's the latest we've heard (that I know of)
[15:57] <Rickta59> then at least i could pre pay and get free shipping
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[15:59] <gordonDrogon> I've got a couple of zeros - not sure what to use them for yet.
[15:59] <gordonDrogon> thought about my oven controllers, but I have model A+ for that.
[16:00] <Rickta59> I want want to make a serial terminal with vga monitor
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[16:00] <gordonDrogon> retro...
[16:00] <Rickta59> would be nice output for my little mcus
[16:01] <shauno> I keep meaning to do something similar with an esp (but to net rather than vga). turns out I'm even lazier than I thought
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[16:06] <Chunkyz> 'elo
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[16:41] <Zardoz> howdy
[16:44] <Chunkyz> nice, very nice.
[16:46] * Chunkyz is bored
[16:46] <Chryodem> lol! i am checking my ebay bids on touchscreens
[16:46] <Chunkyz> Chryodem, nice :p
[16:46] <Chillum> do you mean that you are checking bids you have made to buy touchscreens
[16:46] <Chunkyz> lmao
[16:46] <Chillum> or you are using touchscreeens to check bids?
[16:46] <Chunkyz> 1st XD
[16:47] <Chryodem> lol, checking bids to buy touchscreens
[16:47] <Chryodem> got two going, one five inch one seven inch
[16:47] <Chillum> you can do both at once if you want to get meta
[16:47] <Chunkyz> why not buy new?
[16:47] <Chryodem> cheaper
[16:47] <Chunkyz> they're cheap already, no?
[16:47] <Chryodem> not 15 bucks
[16:47] <Chillum> a simile is like a fat joint, in that I am making one right now
[16:47] <Chryodem> haha!
[16:48] <Chunkyz> is there a benfit to overclocking an sd card?
[16:48] <Zardoz> touchbids?
[16:49] <Zardoz> Chunkyz: yes it can be faster
[16:49] <Chryodem> why would you OC an sd card? they are already fast enough.
[16:49] <Zardoz> <--- is going to be doing this soon
[16:49] <Zardoz> it's never fast enough
[16:49] <Chryodem> lol
[16:50] <Chunkyz> I'm not really seeing a massive difference :/
[16:50] <Zardoz> slow card
[16:50] <Chillum> my camera uses cf cards because they come in faster write speeds
[16:50] <Chunkyz> nah, I mean, not seeing a difference between oc > not oc
[16:50] <Chunkyz> Zardoz, ^
[16:50] <Zardoz> right if you have a slow card is going goinf faster
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[16:51] <Chunkyz> it's a 32gb samsung evo+, not slow. ;)
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[16:51] <Zardoz> damit it's slow
[16:51] <Zardoz> joking
[16:51] <Chunkyz> lmao
[16:51] <Zardoz> ahaha
[16:51] <Zardoz> <--- has an evo+ as well
[16:51] <Chunkyz> you oc'd yours?
[16:52] <Zardoz> I have not OC'ed it yet but might play that this weekend
[16:52] <Zardoz> I just switched to it yesterday
[16:52] <Zardoz> and put the new jessie on it
[16:52] <Chunkyz> you gonna use dtparam or dtoverlay?
[16:52] <Zardoz> not sure yet
[16:52] <Chunkyz> new jessie?
[16:53] <Rukus> overclocking is overrated
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[16:53] <Rukus> just buy a better device then
[16:53] <Zardoz> Rukus: shush :P
[16:53] <Chunkyz> lol
[16:53] <Rukus> xD
[16:53] <hypermist> anyone know of a tutorial to follow to make a retropie hand held pi0 ?
[16:53] <Chunkyz> there's a new raspbian release Zardoz ?
[16:53] <hypermist> thats not adafruit
[16:53] <Rukus> hypermist: google knows
[16:53] <Zardoz> yeah
[16:53] <Zardoz> Chunkyz: yes sir
[16:54] <Chunkyz> I'm sure you're lying XD
[16:54] <Zardoz> robots cant lie
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[16:54] <Chunkyz> haha
[16:54] <randompi> Hello world
[16:54] <Rukus> raspberry rhubarb pi
[16:54] <Zardoz> hello world
[16:54] <Chunkyz> is there an option to oc the pi 3 now?
[16:54] <Chunkyz> Zardoz, ^
[16:54] <Rukus> what Chunkyz
[16:54] <Zardoz> no
[16:54] <Rukus> there always na option
[16:54] <Rukus> xD
[16:55] <Chunkyz> :P
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[16:55] <Chunkyz> I'll stick to dietpi.
[16:55] <randompi> XD
[16:55] <Zardoz> Chunkyz: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/another-update-raspbian/
[16:56] <Rukus> til about dietpi
[16:56] <Rukus> whats so awesome
[16:56] <Zardoz> Chunkyz: is dietpi like diet coke?
[16:57] <hypermist> all i keep finding are pi2 and pi3 projects but not pi0 Rukus hence the reasoning of asking here..
[16:58] <Zardoz> hypermist: thats ok we still love you.
[16:58] <hypermist> :|
[16:58] <Chillum> pi0s will work on a lot of projects meant for another pi
[16:58] <Zardoz> lol
[16:58] <Chillum> not all, but most
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[16:58] <Chillum> depends on need for usb/ethernet ports and power requirements
[16:58] <Chunkyz> Zardoz, it's the fatest debian image for the pi
[16:59] <computer2000> Would such a power supply be good to power a Pi 3 plus up to 8 servo motors all from same PSU? https://www.adafruit.com/product/658
[16:59] <methuzla> hypermist, adafruit has a pi0 based portable retropie project
[16:59] <hypermist> i just said not adafruit
[17:00] <methuzla> why not?
[17:00] <hypermist> because all their stuff that i need to buy from them is hella pricey in shipping ;D
[17:00] <hypermist> its 15$ to ship a 95cent piece
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[17:00] <hypermist> thats how bad it is
[17:01] <methuzla> the info in the how-to is free. source items elsewhere.
[17:01] <Zardoz> computer2000: not sure, but if it was me I use PSU for the pi and one for the servos
[17:02] <hypermist> tried but its not taht easy to find a exact li-ion battery
[17:02] <methuzla> selling/shipping li-ion batteries is a pain. some places just don't even want to mess with it.
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[17:03] <Zardoz> ok, got to go do the work thing :( have a good day all see you in 10+ hours.
[17:03] <methuzla> computer2000, yes. that power supply would be just fine.
[17:03] <hypermist> i've found places that have got them but problem is its a 3.7v with a 140mAh ._. and its like nope not going to work
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[17:04] <methuzla> computer2000, i'm running a pi b+ (with wifi and bluetooth usb dongles) and 4 servos on a 2A supply
[17:05] <computer2000> methuzla: no issues powering lots of servos and the Pi from same PSU at all? I've read the servos current spikes may be an issue for the Pi thatb expects a constant current
[17:05] <methuzla> computer2000, true, but 10A gives you plenty of head room
[17:06] <methuzla> computer2000, also, don't power the servos through the pi, split the power
[17:06] <computer2000> methuzla: of course
[17:06] <computer2000> methuzla: how could I power the Pi with a PSU that has a barrel jack instead of USB?
[17:06] <computer2000> Is there a pin I could use on the Pi, like Vin on Arduino?
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[17:07] <methuzla> computer2000, wire cutters and a soldering iron
[17:09] <Roonix> can you not get a barrel jack to micro usb adapter?
[17:09] <Chillum> do they make such things? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen
[17:09] <Chillum> given that barrel jacks have a wide range of voltages and usb is always 5
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[17:09] <Chillum> people tend to assume "If it fits it must go there"
[17:10] <methuzla> yes, if you don't want to solder: https://www.adafruit.com/product/2789
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[17:11] <Chillum> "If you plug in a 9V or 12V power supply in, you could destroy something expecting only ~5V so be very careful" hehe
[17:12] <Roonix> http://www.robotshop.com/uk/10cm-micro-usb-adapter-cable-raspberry-pi.html this one is apparently "especially designed for the raspberry pi" - lol whatever that means (if anything at all :D)
[17:12] <Chillum> I guess they are trusting people to use it right
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[17:12] <Roonix> well the power supply he linked is 5V
[17:13] <computer2000> methuzla: could I put the 5V an GND coming from my 5V / 10A PSU directly into GPIO on pin 4 respectively pin 6?
[17:13] <computer2000> http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals#General_Purpose_Input.2FOutput_.28GPIO.29
[17:13] <methuzla> computer2000, powering via the GPIO headers by-passes the input protection
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[17:14] <computer2000> What input protection? What does it protect against?
[17:14] <hypermist> so i have a li-ion cellphone battery tahts 1300mAh at 3.7v
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[17:16] <methuzla> computer2000, https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/schematics/RPI-3B-V1_2-SCHEMATIC-REDUCED.pdf
[17:16] <methuzla> computer2000, upper left hand corner
[17:18] <GrandPa-G> I know lcd have been discussed many times, but I am looking for cheap lcd. I found this reference https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=83428 Anyone have a good recommendation. US location
[17:19] <computer2000> methuzla: I'm not that much knowledgeable in electronics :/
[17:21] <stiv> then don't try to do weird stuff!
[17:22] <methuzla> pretty much
[17:24] <methuzla> one thing you'll by-pass is the polyfuse which limits the input current, probably a good idea if you're hooking up a 10A supply
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[17:25] * methuzla likes the way the pi3 schematic shows the test points
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[17:27] <methuzla> computer2000, short answer: yes, you can power via GPIO, long answer: best to know what you're doing
[17:29] <computer2000> methuzla: any way to replicate that protection so I can still power by GPIO?
[17:29] <Chunkyz> if I delete a file with: "sudo rm -r -f *file*" can it be recovered?
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[17:31] <methuzla> computer2000, in general yes. but requires electronics knowledge. and buying additional hardware. you'd be doing a lot of re-inventing the wheel just to avoid the micro usb.
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[17:31] <methuzla> computer2000, what's wrong with powering via micro usb?
[17:32] <computer2000> methuzla: I need the 10A PSU for the servos - so it'd be nice to use it for the PI as well and put it to the same circuit board where the servo signal pins are which is gonna be on the GPIO
[17:33] <computer2000> I'm making a small circuit board that will stack on top of the Pi like a shield, for the servo signal cables and power
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[17:36] <Chryodem> what are you going to use it for?
[17:36] <Chryodem> �Chunkyz�: nope, its gone forever
[17:36] <methuzla> computer2000, like this? https://www.adafruit.com/products/2327
[17:37] <Chunkyz> Chryodem, what?
[17:37] <Chryodem> to your question... if you can recover the deleted file
[17:37] <Chunkyz> oh :p haha, cheers.
[17:38] <Chryodem> yep.
[17:38] <Chunkyz> I did think that just wasn't too sure. cheers.
[17:38] <gordonDrogon> Chunkyz, yes, it can be recovered, however there are limitations and it's not easy.
[17:38] <Chryodem> you should always make sure you *REALLY* want a file gone before "sudo rm" anything.
[17:38] <Chryodem> �gordonDrogon�: even off of a microSD?
[17:38] <gordonDrogon> yes
[17:39] <Chunkyz> gordonDrogon, cheers.
[17:39] <Chunkyz> Chryodem, I know.
[17:39] <Chryodem> I know there is recovery for hard disk drives, didn't know you could with microSD.
[17:39] <Chunkyz> me too :p
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[17:39] <gordonDrogon> there does exist the potential for it to be using block erase thingy (name forgotten - used on SSDs not sure about SD cards)
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[17:39] <gordonDrogon> and it also depends on what's been written to the disk after you delete it.
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[17:39] <Chunkyz> oops
[17:39] <Chryodem> lol!
[17:39] <gordonDrogon> trim.
[17:39] <Chryodem> to the research portal aka google.
[17:40] <gordonDrogon> that's the SSD option to flash erase pages, etc.
[17:40] <gordonDrogon> if that's set then there is less chance.
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[17:40] <gordonDrogon> the delete operation just removes the directory entry.
[17:40] <gordonDrogon> so you need some tools to find the first block of data of the file you deleted and try to recover it from there.
[17:41] <gordonDrogon> I don't know these tools myself, but know they exist. (I keep backups)
[17:41] <Chryodem> doing research for you now chunkyz
[17:41] <Chryodem> i love ebuntu forums ;p
[17:41] <Chryodem> when did you delete it Chunkyz?
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[18:16] <computer2000> i'm looking for an external PSU to power some servos that are being controlled by a Pi 3 that's running from it's own power source - the servos must have common GND with Pi - do I have to get a DC power supply or ac?
[18:17] <methuzla> DC
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[18:18] <computer2000> methuzla: thx
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[18:22] <GrandPa-G> On my pi, I have it plugged into net with ethernet cable. I have a fresh jessie version with just ssh configured. If I do nothing, after about 4-5 minutes the pi looses net connection, can't be pinged even.
[18:23] <GrandPa-G> It used to work fine. Any ideas? I have moved it on a different part of the network with no difference.
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[18:23] <GrandPa-G> It is really hard to connect directly to monitor but that maybe the next step.
[18:23] <methuzla> good power? ip address conflict?
[18:24] <GrandPa-G> yes, no. I have another pi and it works flawlessly with same power, same net. Both dhcp
[18:25] <methuzla> 5 minute leases?
[18:25] <GrandPa-G> just hard to believe hardware issue
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[18:25] <GrandPa-G> not a chance. If so, it would come back. This never does. Has to be rebooted.
[18:27] <Chillum> the watchdog feature of the pi is handy when you need to to automatically come back after a crash
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[18:28] <methuzla> anything useful in syslog?
[18:29] <GrandPa-G> I can't really get in fast enough. I will try ssh faster typing.
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[18:41] <GrandPa-G> Nothing unsual in syslog other than time is ahead about 8 hours. I will fix that first
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[18:58] <Chunkyz> Chryodem, it's not a problem. I was just asking for info, not that I've deleted anything. was curious! :) thanks, though.
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[19:25] <Chryodem> yeah no problem
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[19:44] <bberg> Anyone willing to help a noob out? I've trying to install BlueZ 4.x.x but get an error what i 'make'
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[19:50] <Chryodem> sure, let me look it up
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[19:51] <methuzla> bberg what model pi? what os?
[19:51] <bberg> I've found 4.101
[19:51] <bberg> Well I failed on my raspberry - so i'm just trying on my ubuntu mate laptop
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[19:52] <bberg> Figured if I can get it done on my laptop - i should be able to get it to work on my RPI2 after
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[19:56] <k_j> what's the most advanced and complete kit to work with gpios on rpi2/3 ?
[19:56] <gordonDrogon> hardware kit?
[19:56] <k_j> yes
[19:56] <gordonDrogon> don't know if there is one...
[19:57] <gordonDrogon> what sort of thing are you afteR?
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[19:57] <k_j> experiments... nothing concrete
[19:57] <gordonDrogon> how much do you know about basic electronics?
[19:58] <k_j> a lot probably
[19:58] <k_j> it's not for me
[19:58] <gordonDrogon> a Pi with the Pimoroni 'explorer' hat plus: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/explorer-hat-pro-parts-kit ?
[20:00] <k_j> but where is the breadboard?
[20:00] <k_j> i don't see it
[20:00] <gordonDrogon> thats on the explorer board.
[20:00] <gordonDrogon> s/board/hat/
[20:00] <k_j> oh ok
[20:00] <gordonDrogon> it's a board with some interface chips - a/D plus motor drivers and a mini breadboard.
[20:00] <gordonDrogon> fits on-top of the Pi.
[20:00] <k_j> uh..interesting
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[20:04] <k_j> this is not bad https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/laika-explorer-board-robotics-for-raspberry-pi
[20:04] <k_j> as it comes with two motors
[20:04] <warpie> k_j: look in adafruit.com or amazon.com
[20:04] <gordonDrogon> that's a board with it's own CPU on-board that talks to the Pi.
[20:04] <k_j> no.. only the driver
[20:04] <warpie> or makezine.com
[20:05] <k_j> warpie, yes, but what exactly?
[20:05] <warpie> you looking for Arduino Uno?
[20:05] <Encrypt> £35 (<.<)
[20:05] <Encrypt> There are very few components on the board
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[20:06] <k_j> what would you use as motor driver?
[20:06] <k_j> what board
[20:06] <k_j> i need to driver two dc motors
[20:06] <warpie> standard motor or stepper motor?
[20:06] <k_j> standard
[20:06] <warpie> ok you need a realy board
[20:07] <warpie> relay
[20:08] <warpie> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/188-7396822-6590343?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=relay+boards
[20:09] <warpie> you don't want to try to drive motors from the pi itself, too risky.
[20:10] <warpie> this relay board will allow you to power motors and control it from pi.
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> https://shop.pimoroni.com/collections/raspberry-pi/products/explorer-hat
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> the 'pro' version has the motor drivers on-board.
[20:10] <warpie> the motors will have to supply its own power.
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[20:24] <shauno> bah. I left a pi2 out in the sun and now it's not coming up :/
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[20:34] <stiv> i left mine out in the rain and it still works. although it did crash
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[20:37] <Chunkyz> shauno, bad luck I guess. probably fried XD
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[20:40] <oq> shauno: cosmics rays flipped your bits
[20:41] <michael33> why do i get this error?
[20:41] <michael33> Unable to locate package python3-venv
[20:42] <sasha> How long does a RPi 1 take to compile python
[20:42] <sasha> ?
[20:42] <michael33> around 8,5 hours
[20:42] <sasha> I've been waiting for something like 2 hours
[20:42] <sasha> waat
[20:42] <michael33> maybe less
[20:43] <sasha> isn't there binary that I can download?
[20:43] <michael33> tbh i dont know
[20:43] <Chunkyz> nope
[20:43] <Chunkyz> add non free main contrib, update and install.
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[20:44] <Chunkyz> 2 hours, too long. even on a pi 1 :p
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[20:44] <Chunkyz> you've messed up, somewhere.
[20:44] <Habbie> uhm, isn't python in apt-get?
[20:45] <michael33> it is
[20:45] <michael33> as python-dev
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[20:45] <michael33> but i need more
[20:45] <methuzla> sasha, yes, just apt-get install python
[20:45] <sasha> but it's too old in apt
[20:45] <methuzla> oh
[20:45] <michael33> apt-get install python3-dev python3-pip python3-venv libjpeg-dev zlib1g-dev
[20:45] <michael33> this is what im running
[20:45] <sasha> still too old
[20:45] <Habbie> sasha, what version do you need?
[20:45] <sasha> I need 3.5
[20:45] <Habbie> why?
[20:45] <Chunkyz> upgrade to backports/stretch then
[20:45] <Chunkyz> ^
[20:46] <michael33> Chunkyz: is that for me?
[20:46] <Chunkyz> no michael33
[20:46] <Chunkyz> sasha,
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[20:47] <sasha> how does one upgrade to backports/stretch
[20:47] <sasha> ?
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[20:47] <Chunkyz> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:48] <Chunkyz> you better google though to get your head around it first. otherwise you'll break something XD
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[20:48] <sasha> ok and how long should python take to install? I'm not 100% sure when I started, but it was before eating and stuff, so probably less than 2 hours
[20:48] <Chunkyz> all depends on the device and sd card...
[20:49] <Chunkyz> compiling can take longer too
[20:49] <sasha> thing is I've been developing on my laptop with all the latest features, and the python 3.2 (I think?) version lacks some key ones
[20:49] <Chunkyz> back stretch/backports should have an updated version
[20:49] <sasha> is there a way to check progress ?
[20:49] <sasha> like ctrl + t
[20:49] <Chunkyz> Google will help
[20:49] <Chunkyz> I'm off. night.
[20:49] <sasha> thanks
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[20:56] <k_j> warpie, why cannot the rpi supply the power for the motors?
[20:58] <warpie> because the current rating on the pi's pins are very low. it's purpose to to send signals, not power.
[20:58] <Habbie> it's like 70mA for all pins together, maximum 15 per pin
[20:58] <Habbie> or numbers in that area
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[21:00] <gordonDrogon> and if you draw too much current from the 3.3v supply the Pi reboots (at best, dies in flames at worst)
[21:01] <warpie> right..
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[21:01] <k_j> but the hat pro says : Two H-Bridge motor drivers (pro only) - Drive two 5V motors bidirectionally with up to 200mA per channel.
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[21:01] <warpie> I suggest using a relay board, they are cheap and do the trick nicely.
[21:01] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, i've rebooted it like 30 times that way
[21:01] <gordonDrogon> relays are little use for speed control though.
[21:01] <Habbie> the odds appear to be pretty good
[21:02] <warpie> what motors are you planning to use on it?
[21:02] <gordonDrogon> Habbie, on the Pi 1 there is a GPIO connected to 0v - I tested mine that way ...
[21:02] <SpeedEvil> relays also typically have specified life of 100000 operations
[21:02] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, hehe
[21:02] <SpeedEvil> this can be eaten up very, very fast
[21:03] <warpie> well, then get solid state relays
[21:03] <gordonDrogon> I did once write a program for the relays on the piface board to make them play simple notes...
[21:03] <k_j> warpie, very little dc motors to move a robot
[21:03] <k_j> very light robot
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[21:04] <warpie> ok look in makezine.com.. they have a lot of good suggestions on robots and Pi's.
[21:05] <warpie> also, hackaday.com has some nice suggestions.
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[22:21] <curlyears> OK, I'd like to get my RaspberryPi3 up and running, but I have a tiny problem. My monito has both VGA and HDMI inputs, but I don't know how to tell it which input to use. I presume that would be both manufacturer and model depdent?
[22:21] <Stary2001> Yup
[22:22] <curlyears> it's an AOC 27" Wide Screen. Web lookup?
[22:24] <curlyears> I like the size, except with my one working eye, I keep "losing" the cursor, which under ubuntu gnome or in concole mode, is pretty small. *sigh*
[22:25] <ozzzy> curlyears, use the OSD
[22:26] <curlyears> \when I jiggle the mouse, the cursor moves so fast and so far that it is virtually invisible. If I set the cursor speed low eough to be able to see it when jiggle, thee respone to mouse movement is so slow it isn't practical to use.
[22:26] <Sapio> Hello everyone. I just have a quick question. Is there any actual support for the LE part of the Bluetooth adapter on the Raspberry Pi 3?
[22:27] <curlyears> ozzzy: I thought of that, but I can't seem to get the buttons under the edge to do anything but dispaly bone screen of the OSD
[22:27] <Sapio> I'm trying to get info on it on Google, but everything I see references a Ble dongle.
[22:28] <curlyears> Sapio: since one of the Raspberry Pi's features is low energy usage for the computing power, I find it hard to belieeve that they woouldn't support the LE option
[22:29] <curlyears> Sapio: Have you search Raspberry's website?
[22:29] <Sapio> I found this, but it was last edited in 2015
[22:29] <Sapio> http://www.elinux.org/RPi_Bluetooth_LE
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[22:34] <bberg> Any idea how to troubleshoot - 'bluetooth.btcommon.BluetoothError: (114, 'Operation already in progress')'?
[22:34] <Sapio> I'm searching the site. I need to run the hcitool lescan command, but I get an error of command disallowed. I can run a regular scan though.
[22:34] <bberg> googling is no luck so far.
[22:35] <Sapio> bberg, Bluetooth in general is very much an uphill battle. There's just not enough documentation and instructions out there for it.
[22:35] <bberg> Sapio: :( i'm realizing haha
[22:35] <sasha> How does one get smbus working on python 3.5? Has anyone had any success?
[22:35] <sasha> I only see information up to python 3.4
[22:35] <sasha> python3-smbus isn't recognised by python 3.5
[22:35] <Sapio> I bought a LAIRD module that is very well documented and uses BASIC, but is an embedded system.
[22:35] <dreamon> hello. I wrote a gtk c programm. is there a signal that is send when gtk guiwindow is full drawn. So I could start my programm code by this signal.?
[22:35] <sasha> any ideas?
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[22:36] <bberg> Sapio: any recommendations on where to start? I'm trying to pair the Wii Balance Board
[22:36] <Sapio> bberg, I'm just totally guessing here, but have you tried turning the bluetooth on an off?
[22:36] <bberg> I found someone who did it but I am getting this error.
[22:37] <bberg> Sapio: yep. restarted, tried on RPI and on laptop
[22:37] <bberg> Running this -https://github.com/InitialState/beerfridge/blob/master/wiiboard_test.py
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[22:38] <Sapio> Welp, I'm the same boat but with a different error. I can run scan, but not lescan. I'm thinking it's a driver issue or something I haven't installed.
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[22:40] <bberg> At first, I thought it was a blueZ 5.x.x vs blueZ 4.x.x
[22:40] <bberg> But I read that someone got it to work with 5.2.3
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[22:40] <Sapio> I'm still not very familiar with BlueZ, it's still very much a black box to me.
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[22:41] <bberg> Just like all of linux to me :)
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[22:42] <Sapio> Ditto that.
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[22:44] <Sapio> Where did you get the bluetooth module for python?
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[22:44] <Sapio> I'm loading up the list of modules in Python and I don't see it listed.
[22:45] <bberg> sudo apt-get install python-bluetoot
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[22:45] <bberg> sudo apt-get install python-bluetooth -
[22:46] <bberg> jk
[22:46] <bberg> I thought that was what I did..
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[22:46] <bberg> ha, correction it is.
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[22:46] <bberg> there's also python-bluez
[22:48] <Sapio> I've already installed that, but I can't find the actual module called bluetooth.
[22:48] <Sapio> That should have all the functions and methods to establish connections and what not so I can start coding my own Bluetooth programs in Python.
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[22:50] <bberg> Sorry, i'm lost.
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[22:51] <Berg> can you see the sun?
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[22:51] <bberg> Need to run :)
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[22:55] <geotoad_> Need ssh advice. Configured key pair to automate ssh between 2 pi's with ssh-keygen and copied across with ssh-copy-id. Now setup a .ssh/config file with host info. When I run "ssh -i keyfile pi@ip" it works. But when I try "ssh host" it defaults to root user, despite config containing "User pi". Confused..
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[22:57] <shauno> can you paste the config you wrote somewhere? (eg, pastebin)
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[23:00] <shauno> also worth trying 'ssh -v host' and see a) if the first few lines contain "Application options for host" or b) any obvious complaints
[23:00] <geotoad_> shauno: sure one sec..
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[23:02] <geotoad_> shauno: see http://pastebin.com/raw/Mxnfy0P4
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[23:03] <shauno> hm. well that part's exactly how I do it, atleast
[23:04] <shauno> you say it defaults to root, are you running this with sudo ?
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[23:08] <geotoad_> shauno: here's the -v log: http://pastebin.com/raw/kZafYM3e
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[23:09] <ramkam2013> hello hello
[23:09] <ramkam2013> just got the raspbian installed with the noobs, and it kinda almost works. I see the boot sequence - text - then black screen before the gui loads
[23:09] <geotoad_> shauno: client machine is root, target ssh machine should be pi but defaults to root (which fails)
[23:09] <ramkam2013> any clue ?
[23:10] <shauno> geotoad_: your config is in /home/pi/.ssh/config or /root/.ssh/config ?
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[23:10] <methuzla> ramkam2013, what are you using for power?
[23:10] <ramkam2013> 2 amps
[23:11] <ramkam2013> it boots fine with other distros
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[23:11] <methuzla> what kind of monitor?
[23:12] <geotoad_> shauno: ah that's it! My file was in /home/pi and should be /root. cheers bud
[23:12] <ramkam2013> methuzla: it's a TV, hdmi connected
[23:12] <ramkam2013> methuzla: i've got this enabled in the config.txt : hdmi_force_hotplug=1
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[23:13] <ramkam2013> and also tried uncommenting that: hdmi_drive=2, then, just in case hdmi_drive=1
[23:13] <ramkam2013> same same
[23:14] <methuzla> maybe need to do more: http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#Video
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[23:15] <methuzla> like force a specific mode or something
[23:15] <ramkam2013> methuzla: it's weird, installed it via noobs few weeks ago and it did run fine
[23:16] <ramkam2013> maybe the drive got corrupted ? is the a way of tweaking config.txt so that raspbian launches in console ?
[23:16] <syeekick> i've got kali 2.0 arm edition on my pi, i cant seem to get any of the media players working including vlc.. any ideas? I hear you don't get that great performance watching movies on a pi running an entire distro. Where as xbmc kodi saves alot of resources for encoding video etc
[23:17] <Chillum> does that distro have the version of vlc with the special options for the pi compiled?
[23:18] <Chillum> I know that you need a special compile of vlc to take advantage of the GPU
[23:18] <Chillum> on a pi
[23:18] <methuzla> ramkam2013, can you <ctrl><alt><f1> to get a terminal?
[23:19] <ramkam2013> methuzla: yep, 1 sec, trying safe mode
[23:19] <ramkam2013> weird, does it take a long time at first boot ?
[23:19] <ramkam2013> got the run log sequence, then it hangs on a blinking underscore
[23:20] <methuzla> press enter
[23:20] <ramkam2013> no effect
[23:20] <ramkam2013> and network isnt blinking, just green
[23:21] <ramkam2013> looks like a stall
[23:21] <ramkam2013> ok, went into ctrl alt f1
[23:21] <ramkam2013> terminal shows up
[23:21] <methuzla> run raspi-config and set to boot into command line
[23:21] <ramkam2013> btw, how do i get back to gui ?
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[23:23] <syeekick> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=49114 seems vlc is too beefy to be ran on a pi, it can only do audio
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[23:24] <ramkam2013> syeekick: x11vnc
[23:24] <ramkam2013> runs on a 7(?) years old netbook
[23:24] <ramkam2013> so i guess it would run on the pi
[23:25] <syeekick> how is remote viewing going to help
[23:25] <syeekick> someone posted vlc can be complied with hw accleration
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[23:27] <Karlton> you need hacks to get hw accel with the broadcom library, except for maybe the new vc4 driver
[23:27] <ramkam2013> methuzla: seems the gui is garbaged
[23:28] <ramkam2013> tried with startx, same situation, black screen
[23:28] <methuzla> sounds like you're on the right track
[23:29] <ramkam2013> methuzla: any logs i can check ?
[23:30] <methuzla> don't know. i've never setup the gui, so my troubleshooting knowledge is limited. just know that config.txt is the place to configure it.
[23:30] <ramkam2013> yeah
[23:30] <ramkam2013> forget it, it runs fine
[23:30] <ramkam2013> 0 bytes left on disk :-)
[23:30] <ramkam2013> :D
[23:30] <methuzla> did you expand filesystem?
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[23:31] <ramkam2013> doesnt want to, says noobs did stuff, i dont know what to do, bye.
[23:32] <ramkam2013> i think that the win iot install fucked up the filesystem (and never managed to install)
[23:32] <ramkam2013> going for a full reinstall of everything
[23:32] <ramkam2013> f* microsoft
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[23:32] <syeekick> seems omxplayer is the way to go
[23:33] <ramkam2013> bang, another 3 hours download
[23:34] <GRiZL0C> ramkam2013 watch your language its a family channel
[23:34] <GRiZL0C> dont say the f word
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[23:34] <Karlton> you just said it
[23:34] <ramkam2013> GRiZL0C: k'. what's the right word ;-)
[23:35] <ramkam2013> s/f/z/g
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[23:35] <ramkam2013> now it's the Z word ;-)
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[23:39] <Karlton> it's like Voldemort
[23:41] <ramkam2013> is there a "maker" channel ? or chemistry ? looking for infos on A+B resins and silicones
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[23:45] <michael33> hello, i installed Jessie on my Rpi 1B but all i get is an empty desktop
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[23:46] <michael33> when i rightclick on my mouse and click reconfigure it does nothing
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[23:54] <syeekick> http://omxplayer.sconde.net/#builds can i follow this guide for a kali arm edition on the raspberry pi 2?
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[23:59] <ramkam2013> methuzla: works now.
[23:59] * puzzola_ is now known as puzzola_m
[23:59] <ramkam2013> was because ms iot install garbaged the filesystem
[23:59] <ramkam2013> (and never installed)

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