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IRC Log for 2016-05-24

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[0:18] <Ispira> so just to let you guys knoow
[0:18] <Ispira> OpenSUSE doesn't fare well on the Pi
[0:18] <Ispira> 2 model b
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[0:20] <Zardoz> Ispira: not to surprising.
[0:20] <Ispira> sucks tho
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[0:21] <Ispira> I was hoping the JeOS image would work well
[0:21] <Ispira> but even basic commands like "echo hello" took 1+ second to execute
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[0:32] <kromag> Does anyone know of a resource where I can purchase and learn how to supply my Pi3 with it's own portable power?
[0:32] <kromag> I have seen a few, and I am not fond of them.
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[0:33] <Cromaglious_> aukey power bank from amazon
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[0:34] <kromag> Thank you; I will check that out now!
[0:35] <Cromaglious_> they are rated pretty well and the price is really nice
[0:35] <kromag> I am looking for something more along the lines that it can be rechargeable and be placed nicely in an enclosure with the Pi3
[0:35] <kromag> Something that works with already available enclosures
[0:35] <DWKnight> mopi?
[0:35] <kromag> I don't have a 3D printer or anything like that.
[0:35] <Cromaglious_> mopi cost more per mAh
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[0:36] <Zardoz> yeah aukey or ravpower
[0:37] <Zardoz> just get one that has the power output you need.
[0:37] <Cromaglious_> http://www.amazon.com/Aukey-PB-N15-Dual-USB-External-Smartphones/dp/B00RJQB4IU/ref=sr_1_30?ie=UTF8&qid=1464043043&sr=8-30&keywords=aukey+power+bank
[0:37] <Cromaglious_> $24 for 20KmAh
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[0:38] <Cromaglious_> rayovac 6KmAh is $26 at ace hoardware
[0:40] <Zardoz> 3.1 A total. not per port.
[0:40] <Zardoz> just fyi
[0:40] <Cromaglious_> 20K is good for over 12 hours at 1.6A
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[0:42] <Cromaglious_> just get a 2 A jack micro usb cable...
[0:44] <Zardoz> most like will not matter if the source max output is 1.55x2
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[0:46] <Zardoz> and the pi3 is suggested to have 2.5A
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[0:47] <kromag> Thanks
[0:47] <kromag> I am wanting to have it all neatly in it's own enclosure
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[0:48] <kromag> small enclosure
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[0:48] <kromag> I was looking more for a solution that allowed for something as small as a phone battery.
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[0:49] <BitEvil> Find something lower power then
[0:49] <BitEvil> The pi is not lower power, and sucks lots of it.
[0:50] <BitEvil> (If you need it to last a long time)
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[0:51] <Zardoz> BitEvil: it's low power compared to a lot of things. it just depends what you are comparing it to...
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[0:51] <BitEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5V-Micro-USB-1A-18650-Lithium-Battery-Charging-Board-Charger-Module-Protection-/371152022965 +
[0:51] <BitEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-Boost-Converter-3V-3-7V-4-2V-TO-5V-1A-2A-USB-Voltage-Regulated-Power-Supply-/331682720500?hash=item4d39d4aaf4:g:75wAAOSwYHxWICCI
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[0:52] <BitEvil> And a small battery
[0:52] <BitEvil> True.
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[0:52] <BitEvil> Low power, compared to many PCs
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[0:52] <kromag> https://learn.adafruit.com/piphone-a-raspberry-pi-based-cellphone
[0:52] <Zardoz> lol 100% PCs
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[0:52] <kromag> I'm probably going to adopt that style ^
[0:53] <Zardoz> even intel NUCs
[0:53] <BitEvil> Zardoz: My PC is at the moment using 10W or so DC.
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[0:53] <BitEvil> That is - with a monitor 'the same' as a Pi.
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[0:53] <Zardoz> crap
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[0:54] <BitEvil> Clearly not if it's on battery
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[0:54] <Zardoz> soome of the Hat power stuff can be cool
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[1:07] <b3nn1> I have a pixel array (5*5, enough LEDs for 10*10) of WS2801, what is the most easy way to animate certain leds?
[1:08] <b3nn1> I want a colorful ring like this, which should be rotating slowly
[1:08] <b3nn1> https://www.lynxbroker.de/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2015/09/logo-covestro-lynx.png
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[2:39] <atracht> what kind of performance are people getting from their micro sd cards and what brand
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[2:39] <atracht> i've had good luck with the samsung evo
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[2:41] <atracht> around 30MB read 14MB write in most scenarios
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[2:50] <Ivoah> So I just got my Pi Zero
[2:51] <Ivoah> and am trying to change the keymap
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[2:51] <Ivoah> but when I go to Internationalisation Options > Change Keyboard Layout in raspi-config, it just quits and goes back to the main menu
[2:52] <Ivoah> I'm using the latest version of jessie
[2:52] <Ivoah> has anyone else experienced this issue?
[2:53] <Zardoz> try and update it.
[2:53] <Ivoah> Zardoz: update raspi-config?
[2:53] <Zardoz> atracht: evos and evo+ are the best
[2:53] <Zardoz> ye
[2:53] <Ivoah> k
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[2:56] <atracht> technically speaking what makes one brand of microsd faster than others
[2:57] <Ivoah> Zardoz: nope, still didn't work :(
[2:57] <Ivoah> lemme try a full apt-get upgrade
[2:57] <Zardoz> Ivoah: try sudo apt-get update
[2:57] <Zardoz> and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[2:57] <Ivoah> Zardoz: I'm doing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[2:57] <Ivoah> how is dist-upgrade better?
[2:58] <Zardoz> it's what they use now...
[2:59] <Ivoah> looks like dist-upgrade also installs new programs, in addition to upgrading things
[2:59] <Ivoah> good to know
[3:00] <Zardoz> atracht: the technology behind it. but it seems the evo and evo+ have better random read/wright to where others have better throughput.
[3:01] <Zardoz> or just suck :P
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[3:02] <Zardoz> some of the sandisk cards are ok. but not as good.
[3:03] <atracht> the samsung pro's look decent but they're much more expensive?
[3:04] <Zardoz> the samsung Pro and Pro+ did ok, but really more for sequential large file.
[3:04] <oq> atracht: I use those, https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00MWXUKDK, no issues
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[3:04] <Zardoz> in my testing the evo+ did best.
[3:05] <Berg> oooo hosdt again
[3:06] <Berg> !g
[3:06] <Zardoz> the pro and pro+ would really do well for high MP cameras big files.
[3:06] <Zardoz> Berg: what?
[3:06] <Berg> little opps wrt5ong channe5l
[3:07] <Berg> i was typing in the fish channel
[3:07] <Zardoz> fish channel? they have a fish channel?
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[3:08] * Berg blows bubbles
[3:08] * Zardoz pops bubbles
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[3:09] <Berg> everyone goto the bubble channel and pop
[3:09] <Zardoz> hehe
[3:11] <Zardoz> Berg: where are you?
[3:11] <Berg> <---here
[3:12] <Zardoz> but not in the bubble channel
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[3:15] <Ivoah> #bubble is the place to be man
[3:16] <pksato> EEVblog #883 - Orange Pi One vs Raspberry Pi 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEyU1zSqFwU
[3:16] <Berg> crazy folks
[3:16] <Zardoz> lol
[3:17] <oq> pksato: shouldn't he be comparing it to the 3?
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[3:17] <Zardoz> you know them aussies
[3:18] <Zardoz> they prolly just got the pi2s
[3:18] <Berg> i have a pi3
[3:18] <Berg> ner ner
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[3:18] <Berg> im a aussie
[3:18] <atracht> are there any widely available x86 pi alternatives
[3:19] <Zardoz> Berg: :P
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[3:19] <oq> atracht: yes but they are 10x the price
[3:19] <Berg> im setting it up as a world domination machine
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[3:20] <atracht> oq i remember reading about some 50 dollar one on kickstarter but I forget what it was called and if it's even available
[3:20] <oq> atracht: for example the intel galileo
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[3:21] <Zardoz> oq: did the galileo flop for the most part?
[3:21] <oq> Zardoz: well there's a gen 2 now
[3:21] <Zardoz> I guess it has it uses
[3:21] <atracht> looks like its 65 on amazon
[3:21] <Ivoah> 43.3 kB/s :(
[3:22] <Zardoz> oq: yeah will microsoft still makes a phone...
[3:22] <Zardoz> oq: :P
[3:22] <Ivoah> probably because it's getting it's internet through my laptop using the ethernet gadget thing
[3:22] <oq> Zardoz: they make plenty of phones, so?
[3:22] <Ivoah> and I'm downloading other things too
[3:22] <Zardoz> oq: just joking about,,,
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[3:34] <Ivoah> finally
[3:34] <Ivoah> done updating/upgrading
[3:35] <Ivoah> and it still doesn't work :(
[3:35] <Ivoah> "update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults"
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[3:36] <Zardoz> mmm, you running noobs
[3:36] <Zardoz> ?
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[3:37] <Ivoah> Zardoz: nope
[3:37] <Ivoah> aww, the alpha RealVNC server for the Pi doesn't work with OS X's screen sharing program :(
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[3:42] <Ivoah> pksato, oq: https://twitter.com/eevblog/status/734922099215589377
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[3:44] <oq> Ivoah: then install one that does?
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[3:44] <Ivoah> oq: I tried
[3:45] <Ivoah> but their dmg is borked
[3:45] <Ivoah> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QRDvCcag/Screen%20Shot%202016-05-23%20at%209.45.09%20PM.png
[3:46] * binaryhermit would argue that a pi0 is a better comparison for an opi one due to price?
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[3:47] <Zardoz> Ivoah: you using raspi-config. or the GUI?
[3:47] <oq> binaryhermit: I think that's mentioned in the video
[3:47] <Ivoah> Zardoz: raspi-config
[3:47] <Ivoah> oq: actually, I have the RealVNC client in chrome
[3:47] <Ivoah> I'll try that
[3:47] <Zardoz> try the GUI...
[3:47] <binaryhermit> though opi has 4 cores and pi0 has 1
[3:47] <Ivoah> Zardoz: once I get VNC working I will
[3:48] <Zardoz> save it then try raspi-config
[3:48] <oq> how hard is it to get custom pcb colours?
[3:49] <oq> why isn't the orange pi orange?
[3:49] <Zardoz> Ivoah: is the keyboatd attached?
[3:49] <plugwash> Basically custom PCB colors mean that the vendor has to mix up a batch of soldermask ink just for you
[3:50] <plugwash> and clean all the equipment used to apply it
[3:50] <Zardoz> cost money
[3:50] <Ivoah> Zardoz: no, is that an issue?
[3:50] <plugwash> that drives up costs, especially for small batches
[3:50] <Zardoz> Ivoah: found this Note that a keyboard must be physically attached to the RPi you cannot do keyboard remotely by SSH or RDP unless an idle keyboard is attached to the RPi.
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[3:51] <Zardoz> Ivoah: so might be
[3:51] <Ivoah> huh
[3:51] <Ivoah> good to know
[3:51] <Zardoz> dont know if thats true... but woth a shot
[3:51] <Ivoah> looks like setting it via the GUI is working
[3:52] <Zardoz> it might revert back
[3:52] <Zardoz> try raspi-config again now
[3:52] <Ivoah> although the VNC screen is too small to press the OK button :|
[3:52] <Zardoz> hah
[3:53] <Ivoah> I'll just try with a keyboard quickly
[3:53] <Zardoz> k
[3:53] <Zardoz> I would like to know if thats true anyways
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[3:55] <Ivoah> it worked
[3:55] <Ivoah> :D
[3:55] <Zardoz> nice
[3:55] <Zardoz> well
[3:55] <Ivoah> Is powering the Pi Zero from the OTG port okay?
[3:57] <oq> yes
[3:57] <oq> you can even use one of those google chrome ethernet adaptors with it
[3:57] <oq> chromecast*
[3:58] <Ivoah> Oh, that's neat
[3:58] <Zardoz> omg I did not even think about that
[3:59] <oq> https://twitter.com/mikered/status/684103578437431297
[4:00] <oq> it would be lovely if both ports were otg so you could still use the other one
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[4:03] <Ivoah> oq: well, the first port is just power, it's not even non-OTG
[4:03] <oq> Ivoah: yes, my point
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[4:03] <Ivoah> and that's the reason the 2nd port can be OTG, because it doesn't have a hub
[4:03] <oq> if you use the otg port for power and data the power port is useless
[4:03] <Ivoah> yep
[4:04] <Ivoah> the ARM that the pi 0 uses only has one USB unfortunately :(
[4:04] <Ivoah> I don't think there are many ARM chips that actually have more than 1 USB port without some kind of hub
[4:04] <oq> then how do those hubs that tap into the contacts on the underside work?
[4:05] <Ivoah> oq: I think that will make the port it's tapping into not work, as it's just like plugging something into it
[4:05] <Ivoah> and the ports off of the hub aren't OTG
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[4:10] <Ivoah> oq: does that make sense?
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[4:21] <oq> Ivoah: sure
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[4:50] <xxValiumxx> so this is a thing now. http://puu.sh/p3279.jpg
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[4:54] <oq> xxValiumxx: missing a few modifier keys?
[4:55] <xxValiumxx> just a few
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[4:57] <xxValiumxx> oq c64 running strike term, over the userport at 2400 baud, into USB-serial bridge, set up to a getty on the pi
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[4:57] <xxValiumxx> by force of will, this 33 year old machine is online.
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[5:00] <exonormal> what machine is that?
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[5:02] <exonormal> ahh the comadore 64, lol
[5:02] <exonormal> good for you...
[5:02] <plugwash> does it count if the c64 isn't actually sending/receiving ip packets.........
[5:02] <kromag> I loved that box
[5:02] <kromag> I still have one too
[5:02] <kromag> and a Tandy 2000
[5:03] <exonormal> I have a Tandy 4P
[5:03] <xxValiumxx> I'm working on it, plugwash
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[5:06] <xxValiumxx> plugwash, would it count if it had a wifi module addon that ran linux, but still appeared to the c64 as a modem?
[5:06] <Grievre> Did support for arbitrary bitrates on the UART ever get fixed? I remember when I wanted to do it, the software support was incomplete
[5:06] <Grievre> but I managed to get it working by picking an approximate bitrate and then manually poking the right one into hardware registeres
[5:06] <Grievre> registers
[5:07] * plugwash was kinda joking, but I expect you could get a minimal TCP/IP stack running on the C64 itself, it's been done on 8-bit microcontrollers
[5:07] <plugwash> obviously window sizes would be pretty tiny
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[5:08] <xxValiumxx> its doing 80x25 right now
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[5:08] <xxValiumxx> and was the stack itself done on a micro?
[5:08] <xxValiumxx> I assume you mean arduino
[5:08] <xxValiumxx> or atmel avr
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[5:09] <plugwash> the ones I was playing with was on a PIC18F8722
[5:11] <plugwash> it was a very stripped down stack but it was (barely) capable of running a webserver, I belive people had it running on the smaller PIC18F4620 too
[5:11] <plugwash> and yes the IP stack was running on the PIC, the ethernet controller was an ENC28j60
[5:12] <xxValiumxx> ah, okay, I'm familiar.
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[5:12] <xxValiumxx> the arduino ethernet shield actually implements the stack on the wiz5100, IIRC
[5:13] <xxValiumxx> as far as my commodore project goes, I'm stripping a zsun apart, installing openWRT on it, and I'm going to have it autorun tcpser
[5:13] <xxValiumxx> https://wiki.hackerspace.pl/projects:zsun-wifi-card-reader
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[5:38] <Yukkii> Anyone know how to install qBittorrent on OpenELEC?
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[6:02] <xxValiumxx> raspi question, I'm trying to setup telnetfd
[6:02] <xxValiumxx> telnetd*
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[6:19] <GeekNerd> hi, i am a noob to raspberry pi. is it possible to run a DHCP and DNS server on a raspberry pi?
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[6:19] <Japa> yes
[6:20] <GeekNerd> cool
[6:20] <GeekNerd> i gotta go, just looked at the clock
[6:20] <GeekNerd> sorry to ask and run
[6:20] <Japa> If it can run on linux, it can probably run on the pi
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[7:22] <jrg> yah i just don't get it...
[7:22] <jrg> http://pastie.org/private/3wsgah7q8lfzeu84q8mipq#8
[7:22] <jrg> seems to only happen with mount.cifs on the rpi and bpi
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[7:23] <jrg> think i'm just going to give up on the cifs mounts and move onto just making the bpi a standalone box
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[7:42] <Rukus> any suggestions on a two wire thermostat tutorial?
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[8:23] <AlmightyA> Anyone got any recommended keyboard/mouse combos for the Pi 3?
[8:23] <AlmightyA> Bluetooth combos, that is.
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[8:33] <Japa> AlmightyA, I have a logitech wireless keyboard/touchpad combo, but it's not bluetooth
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[8:33] <Japa> and linux devs don't seem to know what media keys are
[8:33] <GeekNerd> Japa, then it takes a USB receiver
[8:33] <Japa> GeekNerd, yes
[8:33] <Japa> And the pi has 4 usb ports
[8:33] <GeekNerd> Japa, and did you connect the USB receiver to one of them
[8:34] <GeekNerd> and if so, does it work?
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[8:34] <Japa> Yes
[8:34] <GeekNerd> oh nvm
[8:34] <Japa> No issues
[8:34] <GeekNerd> I just scrolled up and saw who you were answering
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[8:35] <GeekNerd> for a moment i thought you were the one asking for help
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[8:35] <GeekNerd> what is the power consumption of the Pi Zero
[8:36] <GeekNerd> and is there any way whatsoever to get some form of network connectivity on it?
[8:36] <GeekNerd> like does it have USB host in which case a Pi Zero plus dongle and OTG adapter is still cheaper than a Model B
[8:37] <GeekNerd> okay i found out by googling
[8:37] <GeekNerd> it can. but can it use a USB hub?
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[8:40] <Yukkii> Anyone know how to install qBittorrent on OpenELEC?
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[8:41] <zamba> hi! i have a raspberry pi 3.. it has integrated wifi.. but when i have an additional wifi adapter over usb, this takes precedence and becomes wlan0.. how can i make sure that the internal chipset always will be wlan0?
[8:42] <AlmightyA> Japa: I'm wanting to take advantage of the Pi 3's onboard bluetooth :-D.
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[8:43] <Yukkii> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[8:43] <Japa> Oh, okay.
[8:43] <AlmightyA> Thank you for the input, however!
[8:44] <AlmightyA> Do you think that the logitech combo could possibly use the onboard bluetooth functionality?
[8:44] <GeekNerd> WTF??????????
[8:44] <GeekNerd> WHY is everyone STILL sold out of the pi zero
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[8:44] <AlmightyA> Pi zero? WHAT IS THIS?!
[8:45] * AlmightyA cannot use google.
[8:45] <GeekNerd> i mean its $5 a piece and stores cannot afford to keep a backstock
[8:45] <Japa> BTW, what is a recommended music player for raspbian? I don't really want something fullscreen, and I don't like how omxplayer doesn't use the alsa volume control
[8:45] <GeekNerd> a pi zero is the cheapest raspberry pi
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[8:45] <AlmightyA> Ahh, talkin OG verisio of Pi?
[8:45] <GeekNerd> and it is $5
[8:45] <GeekNerd> IDK what OG is
[8:45] <AlmightyA> Original Gangsta, first shit!
[8:45] <AlmightyA> haha
[8:45] <GeekNerd> no
[8:45] <GeekNerd> this is newer
[8:46] <GeekNerd> but cheap
[8:46] <Yukkii> specs?
[8:46] <AlmightyA> Ahh, I see. I'll google 'er.
[8:46] <AlmightyA> Thanks.
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[8:46] <AlmightyA> https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/pi-zero/
[8:46] <AlmightyA> For the interested ^^^
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[8:46] <GeekNerd> https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/pi-zero/
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[8:46] <GeekNerd> half a gig RAM
[8:47] <GeekNerd> 1GHz single core
[8:47] <GeekNerd> but its linux still
[8:47] <GeekNerd> no ethernet, no full sized USB
[8:47] <AlmightyA> Onboard wifi?
[8:47] <Yukkii> I can see why it's $5
[8:47] <GeekNerd> there is a microUSB for power and a other for USB adapter
[8:47] <AlmightyA> Or does it rely on a module?
[8:47] <GeekNerd> AlmightyA: nope but....
[8:48] <AlmightyA> And this is $5?!
[8:48] <GeekNerd> pi zero plus a $7 wifi usb dongle and a $2 USB OTG adapter is less than a model B
[8:48] <AlmightyA> My god. It is so INSANE at how far we've come as a people.
[8:48] <GeekNerd> LOL
[8:48] <GeekNerd> these things are in too much demand
[8:49] <GeekNerd> they can't seem to keep up with quantity
[8:49] <AlmightyA> SO CRAZY.
[8:49] <AlmightyA> I love the world!
[8:49] <GeekNerd> Is AlmightyA a troll?
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[8:49] <AlmightyA> No, just love this shit haha.
[8:49] <GeekNerd> I'm sort of a newcomer to this channel, i dont know who all the regular clowns here are yet
[8:49] <GeekNerd> sorry about that
[8:50] <AlmightyA> No man, pretty new to the pi scene myself.
[8:50] <AlmightyA> But will neber cease to be impressed.
[8:50] <AlmightyA> never*
[8:50] <AlmightyA> Plus I'm a little drunk.
[8:50] <GeekNerd> these things run ARM processors, not the same as desktops and laptops which are x86 based
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[8:51] <AlmightyA> No less impressive IMO
[8:51] <GeekNerd> but it cannot run windows
[8:51] <AlmightyA> That's a plus.
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[8:51] <GeekNerd> windows does have an IoT version that does run on ARM devices and is free IIRC
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[8:51] <GeekNerd> but not the pi zero as it needs multi core
[8:52] <AlmightyA> Tonight's the first time I've heard of a Pi zero to be honest.
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[8:52] <AlmightyA> Definitely something I'd like to read more about.
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[8:53] <GeekNerd> the windows IoT seems good, too bad its not in Pi Zero
[8:53] <GeekNerd> its not a desktop OS
[8:53] <GeekNerd> just a core no gui
[8:53] <GeekNerd> but it would allow .NET visual studio programs, i think
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[8:54] <GeekNerd> and I suck at programming other than VB.NET or arduino
[8:54] <GeekNerd> but can I program the Pi Zero in Java, i wonder?
[8:54] <AlmightyA> I just finished up a Java bootcamp.
[8:54] <AlmightyA> Been wondering about things I could possibly play with.
[8:55] <Yukiku> Could I get some help with OpenELEC?
[8:55] <kromag> if you can use vb.net well it's only like 33% more to think about (at first) to code C#
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[8:55] <kromag> They almost closed down VB.net this year
[8:56] <kromag> and once you get C# down take a look at cpp
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[8:56] <GeekNerd> arduino is similar to C++
[8:56] <kromag> or other managed
[8:56] <GeekNerd> i code arduino
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[8:56] <GeekNerd> so maybe it would not be too bad
[8:56] <Lonefish_> so I was saying, why not python?
[8:57] <GeekNerd> I have never tried it
[8:57] <GeekNerd> is it easy to learn
[8:57] <kromag> yeah python is not bad either
[8:57] <Lonefish_> (webchat seems going down a lot)
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[8:57] <GeekNerd> for someone who understands the basic concepts alread
[8:57] <GeekNerd> *already
[8:57] <Lonefish_> I learned it while I was programming at work in less than a week
[8:57] <kromag> GeekNerd, once you get the feel for real of a language and actual programming paradigms
[8:57] <GeekNerd> and I thought python was scripting not programming?
[8:57] <kromag> all languages are a walk around the park
[8:57] <GeekNerd> like perl, right?
[8:58] <kromag> GeekNerd, you can make programs with it too
[8:58] <Lonefish_> you can write easy short scripts, but you can also use classes/modules/...
[8:58] <kromag> or control mc's
[8:58] <kromag> yeah
[8:58] <GeekNerd> and the programs run within raspbian?
[8:58] <kromag> it's actually come a long ways
[8:58] <kromag> yup
[8:58] <Lonefish_> and the great thing is, python is preinstalled on raspbian
[8:58] <GeekNerd> COOL!
[8:58] <kromag> ^
[8:59] <kromag> GeekNerd, it's fairly easy
[8:59] <Lonefish_> java isn't as far as I know, haven't even tried it on a pi
[8:59] <kromag> just don't get caught up in the various IDE's and what not
[8:59] <GeekNerd> so can I use the GPIO and use TCP/IP connections via my WiFi dongle from within python on the pi
[8:59] <Lonefish_> The main idea for python to be on the pi is because it's easy and accessible for non-coders to learn to code
[9:00] <kromag> GeekNerd, They have a ton of little labs to teach kids with Python
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[9:00] <GeekNerd> kromag: cool
[9:00] <GeekNerd> should be easy enough from what I am hearing
[9:00] <kromag> yeah my kid started playing with it years ago
[9:00] <Lonefish_> I'm pretty sure about GPIO, and there are a lot of library's that will get you up and running with TCP/IP
[9:00] <kromag> all on his own too
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[9:01] <Lonefish_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4mEzFDjqtA
[9:01] <kromag> Check out Noobs and the different linux distros it can install GeekNerd
[9:01] <kromag> Then view the IDE's they have for Python
[9:01] <kromag> and check the resources out
[9:01] <GeekNerd> Lonefish_: well running it on a Pi makes zero sense without GPIO
[9:01] <Lonefish_> If you know how to program, this should get you enough info to do *something*
[9:02] <GeekNerd> or else its just a weak computer
[9:02] <Lonefish_> true
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[9:02] <kromag> yeah you can interface with GPIO GeekNerd
[9:02] <Lonefish_> I haven't used it, that's why I'm not 100% sure :)
[9:02] <GeekNerd> good, but is it simple-ish or do you have to edit binary port registers?
[9:02] <kromag> The Raspberrian OS that NOOBS installs comes pre-loaded with all those goodies
[9:03] <kromag> when you purchase a Pi
[9:03] <GeekNerd> like Arduino has digitalWrite() and digitalRead() commands
[9:03] <kromag> Or, you can just download it from the website
[9:03] <GeekNerd> to read or write one pin
[9:03] <kromag> yes
[9:03] <kromag> just go check it out
[9:03] <GeekNerd> some other platforms require you to edit a port register, a binary byte that has 8 pins in it
[9:03] <GeekNerd> okay i will check it out
[9:04] * kromag is eating
[9:04] <GeekNerd> I don't need to already have the Pi to check this out right?
[9:04] <kromag> nope
[9:04] <GeekNerd> and is it possible to emulate ARM on an x86_64
[9:04] <GeekNerd> like to run raspbian in a VM
[9:04] <GeekNerd> on a PC?
[9:04] <Lonefish_> I don't think so, you won't be able to test it, but you can already write your scripts..
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[9:05] <Lonefish_> You can install python on your pc and make it do a print("GPIO 5 HIGH") or something of the like to get your script/learn python
[9:05] <GeekNerd> one other thing
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[9:06] <GeekNerd> packages for linux, are they usually platform dependent? like if I want a DHCPd or a DNS server do I need to find one written for ARM or can I recompile one that was for x86
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[9:07] <GeekNerd> a Pi Zero with WiFi dongle and a LiPo battery should probably be able to spoof DHCP to a fake DNS and serve up random porn sites to users of the WiFi network it is connected to for quite a while right?
[9:07] <GeekNerd> thats one project I have in mind
[9:07] <GeekNerd> hide it in the classroom
[9:07] <Yukiku> >_>
[9:07] <Lonefish_> I don't *think* so. I can't tell you for sure, but there are lots of packages from the debian repo's that we can use, I haven't come across a package that I couldn't use because of ARM
[9:08] <Lonefish_> So I don't think so, but I can't be sure.
[9:08] <GeekNerd> someone connects to WiFi
[9:08] <Lonefish_> Lol
[9:08] <GeekNerd> their host sends a DCHPDISCOVER packet
[9:08] <Japa> GeekNerd, don't do porn site
[9:08] <GeekNerd> gets a DHCPOFFER in response from the school DHCP server, offering it an IP address
[9:08] <GeekNerd> but wait...
[9:08] <Japa> host a streaming rick astley video
[9:08] <GeekNerd> my Pi is on the same AP, and dedicared to this
[9:09] <Lonefish_> ^
[9:09] <Lonefish_> Rick Astley.
[9:09] <GeekNerd> so it responds faster than the school server at least some of the time I would hope
[9:09] <GeekNerd> and then.... it gives a valid address and the correct default gateway
[9:09] <GeekNerd> but gives itself as the DNS server
[9:10] <GeekNerd> so now all requests to resolve hostnames to IP addresses go through my Pi
[9:10] <Lonefish_> bit of man in the middle attack?
[9:10] <GeekNerd> Lonefish_: nope
[9:10] <GeekNerd> not going to intercept traffic sent to other hosts
[9:10] <GeekNerd> just going to step in at the initial connection and tell them I am the DNS server
[9:10] <Lonefish_> either way, must be interesting if it works
[9:10] <GeekNerd> and then, not use it to spy
[9:11] <GeekNerd> as they will never get to real web sites
[9:11] <Lonefish_> especially if some teacher is giving a presentation/showing a site on their laptop
[9:11] <GeekNerd> because my DNS will not resolve to a man in the middle proxy and the the real web as a phishing mitm attack would
[9:12] <GeekNerd> instead, it would respond and resolve the hostname to an IP address
[9:12] <GeekNerd> just not the correct ones
[9:12] <GeekNerd> and then it would pull up a lesbian fetish porn site
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[9:12] <Lonefish_> Still. Rick Astley.
[9:12] <GeekNerd> maybe not the wisest idea on my part
[9:13] <GeekNerd> much better project would be some sort of electronic geocache
[9:13] <GeekNerd> do y'all know what a geocache is?
[9:13] <AlmightyA> Geocache 4 lyfe.
[9:13] <GeekNerd> go to geocaching.com if not
[9:13] <AlmightyA> GeekNerd, where you from?
[9:13] <GeekNerd> the USA
[9:13] <AlmightyA> Same, where abouts?
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[9:15] <GeekNerd> I never get too specific on IRC but I am well within an hour of a makerspace called Twin Cities Maker in Minneapolis MN
[9:15] <GeekNerd> of which I am a member
[9:15] <AlmightyA> No worries haha, just poking for a state.
[9:15] <AlmightyA> MI here.
[9:15] <GeekNerd> nice
[9:15] <GeekNerd> I'm WI
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[9:16] <AlmightyA> I'm in Detroit. We've got a pretty healthy supply of geocaches.
[9:16] <AlmightyA> With all the abandoned stuff, it makes for some real fun.
[9:16] <GeekNerd> one of my worst fears is that freenode staff find out my address and one of them happens to be in the area
[9:16] <AlmightyA> Least of my worries! If someone finds me, hell, let's have a drink.
[9:16] <GeekNerd> I used to be the world's greatest ban evader until I decided to stop being an ass
[9:17] <GeekNerd> keyword being decided
[9:17] <AlmightyA> Hahaha
[9:17] <GeekNerd> as they could not catch all my free VPN apps
[9:17] <AlmightyA> Once you don't die through your 20s, things seem to change a bit.
[9:17] <GeekNerd> I don't need them finding me until I am at least 21
[9:17] <AlmightyA> Hahaha
[9:17] <GeekNerd> at 21 you can get a permit to carry a concealed firearm
[9:17] <AlmightyA> I feel ya.
[9:17] <GeekNerd> right now I cannot
[9:18] <AlmightyA> Beyond that stage!
[9:18] <AlmightyA> Stick with it, it's fun.
[9:18] <GeekNerd> stick with what?
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[9:18] <AlmightyA> Playing the evasion game.
[9:18] <GeekNerd> nope
[9:18] <GeekNerd> uptime has an old log
[9:18] <GeekNerd> my real IP address
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[9:18] <GeekNerd> ISP could relay a message to my dad whose account it is. plus...
[9:19] <GeekNerd> I no longer want to be an ass anyway
[9:19] <AlmightyA> When you start VPN'ing on your access point's level and layering inside of VM's each sporting a unique VPN inside of countries with no USA MLAT treay, gimme a call.
[9:19] <GeekNerd> way too much good stuff to talk about, without worrying about getting K-lined mid-conversation
[9:19] <GeekNerd> whats an MLAT treaty?
[9:20] <AlmightyA> I've been on IRC since the mid 90s, raised insane amounts of hell, never seen a k-line!
[9:20] <GeekNerd> dude I am not a criminal I dont need to worry about international law
[9:20] <AlmightyA> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_legal_assistance_treaty
[9:20] <GeekNerd> the FBI and CIA and even the local cops dont give 2 fucks
[9:20] <GeekNerd> if I spam IRC
[9:20] <AlmightyA> Of course not, but it's still fun to try to operate on that level, eh?
[9:20] <GeekNerd> sure except its VPN
[9:20] <GeekNerd> so they dont see what is in it
[9:20] <ShorTie> GeekNerd needs to read the rules
[9:20] <GeekNerd> they being the feds
[9:21] <GeekNerd> they just see where it is going
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[9:21] <GeekNerd> and operating "on that level" is suspicious
[9:21] <AlmightyA> If you say so ;-)
[9:21] <AlmightyA> Keep having fun, buddy.
[9:22] <AlmightyA> Hard to be suspicious of something you cannot detect beyond being connected to VPN #1, which many professional workers even outside of the IT field do.
[9:23] <kromag> I have seen a K-Line
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[9:23] <AlmightyA> How bad to they hurt?
[9:23] <AlmightyA> do*
[9:23] <kromag> I been on IRC forever too
[9:23] <GeekNerd> AlmightyA: I used to get them all the time
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[9:23] <kromag> since bbs and telnet
[9:24] <GeekNerd> took 20 to 30 seconds to evade usually
[9:24] <AlmightyA> GeekNerd: You must've raised some hell1
[9:24] <AlmightyA> !
[9:24] <GeekNerd> LOL yeah
[9:24] <AlmightyA> kromag: Same here. Miss those days!
[9:24] <GeekNerd> I pretended to be GNAA at one point, forgetting they dont really exist much anymore
[9:24] <kromag> yes
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[9:24] <AlmightyA> True cyber wilderness.
[9:25] <GeekNerd> and I had this one link I spammed off and on for months, let me find it. dont worry I won't spam it I will just paste it once to show you here
[9:26] <AlmightyA> I get a response from a job on Wednesday. I hope to god that I get it so that I can finally begin a career outside of steering my own ship.
[9:26] <AlmightyA> Professional hacker-dom! So fucking pumped.
[9:26] <GeekNerd> you will need to use discretion. I have read the channel rules, but I also am aware this paparazzi pic does not qualify as porn. read the words in the URL for description BEFORE clicking
[9:26] <GeekNerd> http://theblemish.com/2012/09/selena-gomez-spread-her-legs-in-a-bikini/
[9:26] <GeekNerd> doesn't actually show anything but its REALLY close
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[9:27] <GeekNerd> paste that every few seconds, along with the first couple sentences from the page it goes to, and you have a recipe for a K Line
[9:27] <AlmightyA> Most certainly hahaha
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[9:28] <GeekNerd> something about spreading her legs "like your mom does when the rent is due", IIRC
[9:28] <AlmightyA> Hahaha
[9:28] <AlmightyA> That's one way to taste the k-line I suppose.
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[9:29] <GeekNerd> its like she was hanging out at the pool and decided to boost her publicity a little bit and thought, "I know, I'll show that camera guy my crotch!"
[9:29] <AlmightyA> I've always been here to meet like-minded folks, to spread information, and to break things.
[9:29] <GeekNerd> real brilliant move
[9:29] <GeekNerd> LOL
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[9:30] <Sledge-hammer> I BREAK THINGS
[9:30] * Sledge-hammer is now known as GeekNerd
[9:30] <AlmightyA> Excellent handle!
[9:30] <AlmightyA> Haha
[9:30] <AlmightyA> I can't sleep.
[9:30] <GeekNerd> me neitehr
[9:30] <AlmightyA> Wednesday is my big day.
[9:30] <GeekNerd> I SLEPT ALL DAY
[9:30] <GeekNerd> a cannot sleep at night now
[9:30] <AlmightyA> The big yay or the bigger nay.
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[9:31] <raspi> i'm super close to 1080p rdp movie playback from win7 ultimate 64 bit with arch + lxde + freerdp but the bottleneck is RPi3 NIC. When bandwidth reaches 60-70 Mbps the video starts to get laggy. So I either need to compress the rdp stream just a tiny bit, apply some sysctl tweaks, or just try with different technology. have you managed 1080p RDP with RPi3?
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[9:32] <AdolfBinLaden> look i am two ass hats at the same time
[9:32] <Armand> Seems your usual state
[9:33] <raspi> i'm thinking that can i get a bit of extra bandwidth from 1 Gbps USB NIC so that I might get that USB 2 400 Mbps out of it, or is RPi chip just too slow?
[9:33] <AdolfBinLaden> Armand: sorry
[9:33] <Armand> lol
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[9:34] <valesi> do you enjoy being so edgy?
[9:34] <GeekNerd> sort of
[9:34] <GeekNerd> I am funny
[9:34] <Armand> No, not really.
[9:34] <ShorTie> only in your own mind
[9:35] <GeekNerd> I should send a letter to Taylor Swift and ask her if she wants to fuck me
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[9:35] <kromag> He's a pimp _In_His_Own_Mind...
[9:35] <GeekNerd> lmfao pimps
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[9:35] <GeekNerd> LMFAO PIMPS
[9:35] <GeekNerd> P
[9:35] <GeekNerd> I
[9:35] <GeekNerd> M
[9:35] <GeekNerd> P
[9:35] <GeekNerd> S
[9:35] <kromag> oh man
[9:35] <GeekNerd> that spells....
[9:36] <GeekNerd> PIMPS!
[9:36] <Armand> Such Gangsta.
[9:36] <kromag> sorry son gotta do it
[9:36] <GeekNerd> no
[9:36] <GeekNerd> i shut up now
[9:36] <GeekNerd> oh wait nvm
[9:36] <GeekNerd> you are not an op
[9:36] <GeekNerd> i thought you wan threatening me
[9:36] <kromag> * Added GeekNerd!*@* to ignore list
[9:37] <GeekNerd> oh
[9:37] <valesi> ooohh snap
[9:37] <Armand> That'll do.. lol
[9:37] <kromag> Thank progDog God of all Programming for the /iggy buttons
[9:37] <GeekNerd> LMFAO IGNORING THE IGNOREABLY IGNORANT FART
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[9:37] <GeekNerd> i have an idea of a project
[9:38] <Armand> kromag: You don't type /ignores manually?!?
[9:38] <Armand> What's wrong with you? :P
[9:38] <GeekNerd> we need an arduino or a Pi Zero........
[9:38] <GeekNerd> and then we need a bark operared shock collar
[9:38] <kromag> i do
[9:38] <GeekNerd> and a thong
[9:38] <kromag> That was the subtext that pops up after you've added someone
[9:39] <GeekNerd> open the shock collar and remove the bark microphone
[9:39] <GeekNerd> connect one of the wires that went to it to ground
[9:39] <kromag> mIRC sends that to your terminal to verify you have in fact ignored another POF user
[9:39] <GeekNerd> and the other to a GPIO on the Pi or Arduino
[9:39] <kromag> :P
[9:39] <Armand> I get ya.
[9:39] <GeekNerd> you all following here?
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[9:39] <GeekNerd> now you also need an accelerometer
[9:39] <Armand> GeekNerd: tl;dr
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[9:40] <GeekNerd> write a program for the Pi or Arduino, to send pulses down the GPIO when the acceleration jerks around a lot
[9:40] <GeekNerd> then mount the shock collar thing in the front of the thong
[9:40] <GeekNerd> and put it on Miley Cyrus
[9:40] <leio> shiftplusone: not sure I can check thoroughly anytime soon, but for starters, what's "Fake" about those pkg-config files at this point to name them fake? Seems like a too verbatim copy off of collaboras add-on "fake" pkg-config files
[9:41] <GeekNerd> and maybe she will stop twerking her ass around the stage
[9:41] <Armand> And you'd still smash it.
[9:41] <GeekNerd> or else she will get zapped in the cunt
[9:42] <leio> shiftplusone: these days I'm more interested in mesa vc4 + omx working together on a system; and I have no clue if that ought to work, or what's missing; neither does anholt. I guess at best some surgery to build that stuff out of userland without the old gpu ipc driver stuff?
[9:42] <GeekNerd> I would call my invention the Krazy Kool Kuntzapper
[9:42] <GeekNerd> or KKK for short
[9:42] <GeekNerd> LOL, KKK
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[9:45] <GeekNerd> dongs
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[9:53] <GeekNerd> pussy
[9:53] <GeekNerd> clitoris
[9:53] <GeekNerd> labia
[9:53] <GeekNerd> vulva
[9:53] <GeekNerd> vagina
[9:53] <GeekNerd> nipple boob tit
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[9:57] <GeekNerd> i am going bye bye soon
[9:57] <GeekNerd> but i must spam first
[9:58] <GeekNerd> WHY WON'T TAYLOR SWIFT HAVE SEX WITH ME?
[9:58] <GeekNerd> WHY WON'T TAYLOR SWIFT HAVE SEX WITH ME?
[9:58] <GeekNerd> WHY WON'T TAYLOR SWIFT HAVE SEX WITH ME?
[9:58] <GeekNerd> WHY WON'T TAYLOR SWIFT HAVE SEX WITH ME?
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[9:58] <GeekNerd> WHY WON'T TAYLOR SWIFT HAVE SEX WITH ME?
[9:58] <Armand> Because you lack wang.
[9:58] <Armand> And you're ugly.
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[10:14] <BurtyB> yay back to some form of normality :)
[10:14] <Armand> You do realise.. this is the internet, right ? :P
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[10:27] <mohsen_1> Hi, does overclocking hurt the device?
[10:27] <[Saint_]> No.
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[10:27] <[Saint]> Well...
[10:27] <k_sze[work]> Does Raspbian know to optimize small writes to the SD card?
[10:28] <k_sze[work]> I mean, I'm doing something like `ping -D google.com > ping.log` in Raspbian.
[10:29] <[Saint]> It "hurts" the device, in so far as it works at a higher rate, allowing more cycles in an overall shorter time period, which shortens the observable lifespan in theory.
[10:29] <[Saint]> mohsen_1: ^
[10:29] <[Saint]> That is "in theory".
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[10:30] <[Saint]> In practice, not really, no. As you would like get bored of the device or replace it long before you observed any difference in lifespan from overclocking.
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[10:31] <mohsen_1> [Saint]: How much does it work on overclocking, I mean in years.
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[10:36] <[Saint]> mohsen_1: No one can give you that information yet. Though a realistic ballpark figure would be high single digits to low doube digits.
[10:36] <[Saint]> *double
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[10:37] <tlatelolco> Hello. After a dist-upgrade and a reboot on my debian rpi, that I access to by ssh, it gets its IP address but all ports include ssh are closed
[10:38] <[Saint]> mohsen_1: Basically - Yes, overclocking will shorten the total life span of the device, but; No, you will almost certainly not notice this as an observable effect.
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[10:39] <tlatelolco> an idea?
[10:41] <mohsen_1> I overclocked it to 1000 and set the gpu memory to 256, now web browsing is not so smooth, but potentially usable.
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[10:42] <[Saint]> mohsen_1: why have you set the GPU memory so ridiculously high?
[10:43] <mohsen_1> A video on youtube suggested, to get a better browsing experience.
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[10:44] <[Saint]> GPU memory shouldn't really be an issue for browsing.
[10:45] <[Saint]> 64MB should be fine unless you're pushing lots of HD video streams through gpu assisted decoding.
[10:46] <mohsen_1> I see.
[10:46] <[Saint]> the system itself is far better off using that RAM so you can stave off swapping for as long as possible.
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[10:48] <mohsen_1> I will set it back to 64mb. but generally, why isn't pi good with browsing?
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[10:53] <[Saint]> browsing generally involves lots of little reads and writes which is a bad use case scenario for sdcards.
[10:54] <[Saint]> that's definitely one concern, but I'm sure there are others I'm not considering.
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[12:35] <k_sze[work]> Is there a way to control the HDMI volume from the command line?
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[12:35] <k_sze[work]> I mean sound volume.
[12:35] <Megaf> alsamixer
[12:36] <Megaf> k_sze[work], ^
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[12:43] <mike_t> k_sze[work], on TV? try cec-client
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[13:20] <bsdnoob> hello
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[13:21] <bsdnoob> ssh from raspberry pi keeps dropping
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[13:21] <bsdnoob> unless I reconnect ethernet cable in my laptop
[13:21] <bsdnoob> help?
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[13:25] <b3nn1> I have a pixel array (5*5, enough LEDs for 10*10) of WS2801, what is the most easy way to animate certain leds?
[13:25] <b3nn1> I want a colorful ring like this, which should be rotating slowly
[13:25] <b3nn1> https://www.lynxbroker.de/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2015/09/logo-covestro-lynx.png
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[14:03] <ThePendulum> these LEDs are producing so much heat :/ I don't understand how they can be used without a heatsink
[14:03] <hypermist> From china ThePendulum ?
[14:03] <ThePendulum> yeah, it's a 16×16 grid of addressable RGBs
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[14:04] <hypermist> my power brick for my led strip
[14:04] <hypermist> Is always hot
[14:04] <ThePendulum> I wish I had an IR thermometer
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[14:04] <ThePendulum> if I had to guess I'd say ~40°C
[14:04] <hypermist> I wish a had a thermal/powerusage of this house
[14:04] <hypermist> and maybe raditation xD
[14:05] <b3nn1> certain parts, like the recitifier, can withstand higher temps without problem
[14:05] <b3nn1> so it would be a waste of money to put a heatsink onto it, if it works without
[14:06] <ThePendulum> I'm not sure how hot these LEDs can run
[14:06] <b3nn1> which leds are you using?
[14:06] <ThePendulum> someone else pointed out the 5050 casing the WS28xx come in are not exactly great for heat dissipation
[14:06] <ThePendulum> b3nn1: it's my apparently knock-off WS2812Bs I'm worried about
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[14:07] <mfa298> 40C doesn't seem that hot for many electronic parts, expecially if it's fairly stable
[14:08] <ThePendulum> I just wonder how it'll affect the durability of these things
[14:08] <b3nn1> datasheet for the ws2812b from adafruit says operating temp -25 to 80°C
[14:08] <ThePendulum> oh well guess I should burn my fingers if they're overheating then
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[14:09] <b3nn1> many run these leds and never saw a cooling for it
[14:09] <ThePendulum> I'm thinking of wedging it between some acryl so I have a fancy lamp
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[14:12] <Bilby> *yawn*
[14:14] <ThePendulum> too overdone?
[14:14] <Chunkyz> yes.
[14:15] <ThePendulum> never seen one actually, don't care either, I like it
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[14:19] <GRiZL0C> hey folks hows it goin'?
[14:19] <ThePendulum> not too bad
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[14:20] <GRiZL0C> everyday i learn something new on my Rpi3
[14:20] <Chunkyz> me too GRiZL0C :p
[14:20] <GRiZL0C> also learning to use raspbian on pi 3 is really fun
[14:21] <GRiZL0C> yeah Chunkyz i really dont regret buying 2 pi 3's
[14:21] <GRiZL0C> its so versatile
[14:22] <Chunkyz> my pi 3 is my desktop for everything :D
[14:22] <GRiZL0C> but i already look forward for a rpi4 i hope they do something like 2gig ram or gigabit ethernet
[14:22] <GRiZL0C> me too Chunkyz
[14:22] <GRiZL0C> its my main IRC client
[14:23] <ThePendulum> 2 gig RAM would've been nice on the 3
[14:23] <GRiZL0C> yes
[14:23] <GRiZL0C> since its a 64bit cpu
[14:23] <Chunkyz> 1gb is more than enough...
[14:23] <GRiZL0C> would've been nice if it had 2 gig but thats something for future releases
[14:25] <GRiZL0C> yeah it does work with 1 gig i am amazed to see in LibreELEC that kodi is using something like 88megz out of ~680megz so kodi runs on very low memory
[14:26] <GRiZL0C> they did a nice job making kodi run on such low memory
[14:26] <GRiZL0C> chunkyz you know about odroid xu4?
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[14:27] <Chunkyz> yeah
[14:28] <GRiZL0C> that is also a very nice spec'd single bord computer but it doesnt have the communty support like rpi
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[14:28] <Chunkyz> yeah and the "software" is really slow on it, even with an emmc
[14:29] <Chunkyz> spec, great, the os's and support, terrible
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[14:29] <GRiZL0C> yes
[14:30] <Chunkyz> my pi 3 with an overclock sd card is faster..
[14:30] <GRiZL0C> if i had an odroid i definitely wouldnt use it to install android
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[14:31] <GRiZL0C> i ordered some really fast sd card would it make any difference to use fast sd card instead of slower ones?
[14:31] <b3nn1> depends on what you do with your rpi
[14:31] <GRiZL0C> i mean would raspbian startup quicker?
[14:32] <Bilby> GRiZL0C: Some people say yes, I haven't seen any reviews or personal experience that indicate a super fast card is any better than any good card
[14:32] <Bilby> Class 10 or better and good quality / good brand
[14:32] <Bilby> the biggest speed bump is movign the OS to a usb device
[14:32] <Chunkyz> the evo+ is great...
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[14:33] <GRiZL0C> i managed to order a samsung evo pro card which has 95Megabit /s read speed and 90Megabit write if i'm not mistaken
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[14:33] <Chunkyz> ozzzy_, lmao
[14:33] <ozzzy_> shrug... they work
[14:33] <Bilby> I have a handful of 64GB SSD drives (don't ask)
[14:33] <Chunkyz> yeah, they're not expensive anyway...
[14:34] <Bilby> I keep thinking they'd make perfect drives for Pi applications
[14:34] <Chunkyz> Bilby, do it
[14:36] <b3nn1> in which cases do you need a fast drive?
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[14:37] <pwillard> In fact... I bought some super fast Samsung SD cards that fail to work reliably in a pi
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[14:38] <GRiZL0C> pwillard: were those cards cheaper as usual?
[14:39] <GRiZL0C> i read many complaints of fake cards
[14:39] <Bilby> b3nn1: anything that does a lot of read / writes
[14:39] <Bilby> or generates a lot of large logfiles
[14:40] <pwillard> On-Sale at Fry's... yes
[14:40] <b3nn1> but which application needs that?
[14:40] <GRiZL0C> even amazon sells fake samsung cards which has "made in china/taiwan instead of made in korea
[14:40] <Bilby> nothing requires it, and it might even be less stable due to extra components / connections
[14:40] <pwillard> Like $9 for a 16GB cheap
[14:40] <Bilby> it's experimentation :)
[14:41] <GRiZL0C> you gotta be carefull where to buy them
[14:41] <pwillard> well, I *usually* trust Fry's.
[14:41] <pwillard> Maybe now not so much
[14:43] <oq> GRiZL0C: it used to be that if you bought from amazon instead of amazon warehouse you were buying something legit, sadly its not the case any more
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[14:45] <GRiZL0C> oq:yes they got many bad reviews and complaints
[14:46] <ThePendulum> I'm wondering what kind of thickness is appropriate to get a nice diffusing of my LEDs
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[14:49] <Bilby> ThePendulum: thickness o what?
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[14:52] <GRiZL0C> hey Zardoz hows it goin bro
[14:52] <ThePendulum> acryl
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[15:01] <oq> ThePendulum: just sand it
[15:01] <oq> ThePendulum: thickness ain't gonna affect anything
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[15:07] <daey> thickness def affects it
[15:07] <daey> the thicker the plexiglass is (if both sides are sanded) the bigger the light blob gets
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[15:10] <Ivoah> I wish pimoroni's USB OTG cable wasn't so long :(
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[15:11] <b3nn1> <b3nn1> I have a pixel array (5*5, enough LEDs for 10*10) of WS2801, what is the most easy way to animate certain leds?
[15:11] <b3nn1> <b3nn1> I want a colorful ring like this, which should be rotating slowly
[15:11] <b3nn1> <b3nn1> https://www.lynxbroker.de/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2015/09/logo-covestro-lynx.png
[15:11] <b3nn1> still looking for a solution :D
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[15:15] <Bilby> b3nn1: any particular language or interface you want to use for control?
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[15:16] <b3nn1> at the end it would be great to start a script at boot, so it can control the LEDs just by starting it
[15:16] <b3nn1> I might show it at a presentation, no keyboard/mouse
[15:17] <ShorTie> shouldn't be too hard
[15:17] <pksato> b3nn1: like this ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED2u5O7GyEY
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[15:24] <b3nn1> cant watch it due to limitations in germany :P
[15:25] <b3nn1> but glediator looks good, however I need to set it up correctly
[15:25] <oq> b3nn1: there's some shitty music playing in the background, their bots probably picked it up
[15:26] <shauno> yeah. GEMA's funpolice.
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[15:36] <b3nn1> but I have no idea how to connect WS2801<>SPI to ARTnet<>Glediator
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[15:52] <nemo> Hey folks. I just bought an RPI3 which, specwise, is insane... it's way more powerful than my home server despite drawing ⅟₂₀th the power... (The lack of spinning rust helps a lot I'm sure)
[15:52] <nemo> Was wondering. Does anyone know if the state of GLES2 apps has improved since the first RPI?
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[15:54] <b3nn1> currently I connected my ws2801 to a 5V power supply and also connected it to the RPI
[15:54] <b3nn1> now I read "Do not connect the 5V rail of the pixel power supply to the Pi."
[15:54] <b3nn1> you shouldnt do that? :D
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[15:56] <Ivoah> b3nn1: I think they draw too much power
[15:56] <Ivoah> and could damage the Pi
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[15:59] <nemo> Hedgewars for example is GLES11/GLES2 using SDL1.2/SDL2 to get a GL context
[15:59] <nemo> I was wondering if an app doing that can actually run accelerated nowdays
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[16:03] <wire11> Anyone here had experiences running centos on ALIX system boards?
[16:03] <wire11> or FreeBSD for that matter
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[16:23] <NicoHood> I wanted to use the raspi3 rng function. However this modul seem to not be available anymore? does anyone know whats wrong? bcm2708_rng
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[16:28] <Chunkyz> hi, I have a micro usb to normal usb, it works with my tablet pc and phone with the keyboard and mouse etc but when I try it on my pi zero, it doesn't work. will max_usb_current make it work?
[16:29] <shauno> for otg? gotta ask, you're paying attention that it only works on the port nearest the middle?
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[16:29] <shauno> (one port is power only and isn't wired to data. the other is a dataport but will accept power)
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[16:30] <Chunkyz> It has 2 normal usb and 1 micro usb from a micro usb lead...
[16:30] <Chunkyz> just want it work with my zero :(
[16:30] <shauno> I mean on the zero, there's two usb ports, but only one is suitable for this use
[16:31] <Chunkyz> wait, what?
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[16:32] <GRiZL0C> hi everyone, how's it goin'...
[16:32] <DWKnight> not too bad
[16:32] <GRiZL0C> great
[16:32] <GRiZL0C> to be here
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[16:33] <GRiZL0C> i just received my uber fast microsdxc card from samsung and now i have yet another 64gig sd card (cant have enough sd cards when you're a rpi guy !) :P
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[16:35] <nemo> GRiZL0C: oh... on that subject... I have a 128GiB microsdxc here. I'm gonna guess that should work w/ the pi, but maybe not in noob mode, probably need to do my own partitioning right
[16:36] <nemo> is there a guide out there by any chance?
[16:37] <GenteelBen> I'll FIND it for you, nemo.
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[16:37] <GenteelBen> Which RPi do you have, my fishy friend?
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[16:38] <nemo> ..
[16:38] <nemo> I get the feeling you have no interest in actually being helpful
[16:38] <GenteelBen> ...
[16:38] <Ivoah> nemo: why wouldn't a 128 GB card work with NOOBS?
[16:38] <GenteelBen> Just for that, I'm not helping you.
[16:39] <GenteelBen> If anybody else needs help with getting their 128MB microSDXC card working with an RPi model, shout out to me.
[16:39] <GRiZL0C> lol
[16:39] <GenteelBen> GRiZL0C: do you need help getting your 128MB microSDXC card working with an RPi model?
[16:39] <nemo> Ivoah: well. the recommended guide, which my windows coworker followed, was popping the microsd into his laptop, firing up the sd formatting tool, then copying over noobs
[16:40] <nemo> Ivoah: but, it seems to create a single 117GiB partition, and my understanding is the RPI boot loader didn't support XFAT
[16:40] <GRiZL0C> no i dont have a 128gig card
[16:40] <nemo> exFAT
[16:40] <Ivoah> nemo: and why wouldn't that work?
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[16:40] <GenteelBen> Ivoah: do you need help getting your 128MB microSDXC card working with an RPi model?
[16:40] <nemo> Ivoah: anyway, we tried it out, and, nothing. didn't boot
[16:40] <Ivoah> GenteelBen: what?
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[16:40] <GenteelBen> I'm willing to help someone get their 128MB microSDXC card working with an RPi model.
[16:41] <GRiZL0C> u have to format the sd card as fat32 not exfat
[16:41] <DWKnight> nemo: you try imaging the card with the specific .img file for the OS you plan to use then extend the partition after?
[16:41] <Ivoah> nemo: actually, is it even possible to have a FAT partition that's 128GB?
[16:41] <GRiZL0C> yes
[16:41] <nemo> DWKnight: yeah, I had the feeling that was what would be necessary
[16:41] <Ivoah> GenteelBen: you're being kinda spammy :|
[16:41] <GenteelBen> Sounds like you need to spend longer to FIND the answer, nemo.
[16:41] <nemo> DWKnight: I was just wondering if there was a guide out there somewhere
[16:41] <GenteelBen> Also just realised I've been saying 128MB not GB.
[16:41] <DWKnight> you on windows or linux?
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[16:41] <DWKnight> GenteelBen: MB was 9 years ago
[16:41] <nemo> DWKnight: I'd followed one ages ago for the RPI 1st gen, but I imagine there's something more up to date these days
[16:41] <DWKnight> or so
[16:42] <nemo> DWKnight: I'll be doing it on Linux
[16:42] <GenteelBen> Moe like 10 years ago, DWKnight.
[16:42] <DWKnight> nemo: the steps haven't changed
[16:42] <GenteelBen> *More
[16:42] * GenteelBen snorts
[16:42] <nemo> DWKnight: aight
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[16:42] <DWKnight> gj freenode
[16:43] <GenteelBen> In all seriousness, it sounds like nemo needs a Mac Mini.
[16:43] <GRiZL0C> i hate NOOBS installer
[16:43] <Ivoah> GenteelBen: why?
[16:43] <nemo> GRiZL0C: yeah, I'd mostly just tried it out since I'd left my laptop in the car and he'd offered to set it up
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[16:43] <DWKnight> I go with the distro-specific image in a large percentage of cases for myself
[16:44] <Ivoah> DWKnight: same, NOOBS is for noobs :P
[16:44] <nemo> GRiZL0C: but, eh, guess I'll head on down and grab it. I need to return this RPI anyway
[16:44] <GRiZL0C> good luck nemo
[16:44] <nemo> (power LED isn't functioning - boots fine, green activity LED, just no power light)
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[16:45] <nemo> GRiZL0C: thanks. BTW. You wouldn't happen to know about the status of GLES11 these days?
[16:45] <GenteelBen> nemo needs to FIND himself, probably in a 90-minute journey of discover and friendship.
[16:45] <GRiZL0C> no not a clue
[16:45] <nemo> GRiZL0C: was thinking of trying to get Hedgewars working again.
[16:45] <nemo> 'k
[16:45] <GRiZL0C> sorry
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[16:47] <nemo> GRiZL0C: no wories, probably best bet is to look into something like https://github.com/raspberrypi/quake3 and see what can be adapted
[16:47] <nemo> GRiZL0C: hell. they even bundle libsdl in their repo, so might be enough to just build and target that lib
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[16:49] <Chunkyz> znc running on my pi zero.
[16:49] <Chunkyz> :D
[16:50] <Chunkyz> can anyone recommend a micro usb hub for my pi zero? I only have a 1 port 1 atm :(
[16:50] <Chunkyz> and that's running wifi :p need 1 for keyboard/mouse
[16:51] <Chunkyz> so 2/3 would be great
[16:51] <Chunkyz> there's so many
[16:51] <Chunkyz> the one i bought doesn't work with the zero :(
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[16:53] <Ivoah> Chunkyz: I would recommend that cool hub that attaches to the bottom of the zero
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[16:55] <Ivoah> Chunkyz: or this: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/usb-multi-function-lan-adaptor if you want ethernet
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[16:57] <Chunkyz> Ivoah, that link ^ isn't micro usb...
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[16:57] <Ivoah> you could use this: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/usb-to-microusb-otg-converter-shim
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[16:58] <Chunkyz> ahh never mind
[16:58] <Chunkyz> lol
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[16:59] <oq> Ivoah: I have looked high and low for one of those hubs and cannot find one in stock anywhere
[17:00] <Ivoah> oq: the fancy zero hub or the ethernet one?
[17:00] <oq> Ivoah: the zero hub
[17:00] <Ivoah> oq: https://ryanteck.uk/raspberry-pi/157-zero4u-4-port-usb-hub-for-raspberry-pi-zero.html
[17:01] <oq> Ivoah: "On Backorder"
[17:01] <Ivoah> looks like it doesn't work with the zero 1.3 though
[17:01] <oq> aka out of stock
[17:01] <Ivoah> ah
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[17:03] <Ivoah> that tiny OTG adaptor I posted earlier wouldn't work with some flashdrives
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[17:03] <oq> why?
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[17:03] <Ivoah> I've seen flash drives that don't have the metal shield, and are just the inside plastic part
[17:03] <oq> oh right those
[17:04] <Ivoah> same with usb business cards
[17:04] <Chunkyz> I'll buy that pay day, thanks Ivoah.
[17:04] <Ivoah> buy what?
[17:05] <Chunkyz> 3 port and ethernet :p
[17:05] <Ivoah> cool
[17:05] <oq> Chunkyz: is your home network gigabit?
[17:05] <Chunkyz> oq, yeah but I only have a 70mbps connection anyway
[17:06] <oq> might be worth thinking about getting a usb 3 + gigabit adaptor, you'll get 300mbit instead of 100mbit out of it
[17:06] <Chunkyz> meh, it'll be fine.
[17:06] <oq> it doesn't have to be usb3 but you don't see many usb2+gigabit adaptors
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[18:18] <skywall> Hello, anyone know why raspbian wouldn't accept the username "pi"? It gives me a "login incorrect" instead of the password prompt
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[18:25] <Hitechcg> skywall: How are you accessing/connecting to it?
[18:25] <RoBo_V> skywall: strange, new installed OS or any abrupt shutdown ?
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[18:27] <kromag> ok so far:: Windows 10 IoT just pisses me off and sucks
[18:27] <GRiZL0C> always change your standard password when you execute raspi-config
[18:27] <GRiZL0C> also change the root password too
[18:27] <ozzzy_> kromag, it does what it was designed to do
[18:27] <kromag> I've installed it on Pi3 and it states I have no WiFi nor Bluetooth
[18:27] <kromag> ozzzy_, I don't need all that
[18:28] <kromag> I am well aware things do what they're designed to do
[18:28] <ozzzy_> [shrug]
[18:28] <kromag> that statement doesn't even have any merrit
[18:28] <ozzzy_> you spelled merit wrong
[18:28] <kromag> that's fine
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[18:28] <kromag> I have cancer and am highly medicated so that's expected
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[18:29] <GRiZL0C> omg
[18:29] <ozzzy_> it happens
[18:29] <kromag> it does
[18:29] <kromag> so is there some sort of config adjustment someone is aware of to fix the no wifi//bluetooth issue on Win10 IoT?
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[18:29] <GRiZL0C> i hope you'll get better kromag
[18:29] <ozzzy_> when I installed it it found the wifi... didn't try bluetooth
[18:29] <kromag> GRiZL0C, supposedly I am
[18:30] <kromag> But I don't always feel that way
[18:30] <ozzzy_> driver issue?
[18:30] <kromag> I'm drugged too damn much
[18:30] <kromag> I just got the thing and had other OS's on it with no issues
[18:30] <kromag> this is the only one that messed up
[18:30] <ozzzy_> IoT is pretty horrible
[18:31] <kromag> yeah it is I'm just going to uninstall it
[18:31] <kromag> not even worth my time to mess with it
[18:31] <kromag> it looks horrible too
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[18:31] <kromag> I just had to check it out
[18:31] <ozzzy_> not unless you want to write user apps for everything you want to do
[18:31] <Rooxo> hi
[18:31] <kromag> well I do software engineering which is why I wanted to chek it out
[18:32] <kromag> check*
[18:32] <ozzzy_> ahhh... you'd be in the 1% then LOL
[18:32] <kromag> and it's just not what I thought it would be
[18:32] <kromag> lol
[18:32] <ozzzy_> no... it's not what most thought it would be
[18:32] <Rooxo> what os do you guys use on your pi?
[18:32] <ozzzy_> too many people thought it would be Win10 Light
[18:32] <kromag> They really have a way of blowing it out of proportion on the commercials and on IoT's site
[18:32] <ozzzy_> ohhh yeah
[18:33] <kromag> ozzzy_, well I thought it would be like Linux with a win10 Gui
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[18:33] <ozzzy_> Rooxo, generally Raspbian
[18:33] <GRiZL0C> Rooxo: raspbian libreelec kali linux
[18:33] <kromag> it's, imho, the worst os MS ever come up with
[18:33] <kromag> yeah same as GRiZL0C here too
[18:33] <kromag> soon as I get this pos off my Pi3
[18:33] <ozzzy_> they should port MSDOS 3.3 with a tcp stack
[18:33] <ozzzy_> LOL
[18:33] * mlelstv doesn't run linux
[18:33] <kromag> Thanks tho folks
[18:33] <GRiZL0C> i didnt even try w10 iot out i thought its not an os
[18:34] <kromag> yeah don't waste your time
[18:34] <Rooxo> i wanted to try archlinux arm, but for some reason it didn't work
[18:34] <kromag> it's not ready for anything
[18:34] <Rooxo> after i reinstalled it it doesn't even boot anymore
[18:34] <kromag> I'm putting Raspbian back on
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[18:34] <Rooxo> i have a suspicion my sd card might b3e broken
[18:34] <kromag> I actually had fun with that one
[18:34] <kromag> or Ubuntu
[18:34] <GRiZL0C> Rooxo: installing archlinux arm is pretty tricky to install
[18:35] <GRiZL0C> on rpi
[18:35] <Rooxo> it worked the first time, but when logging in as the default non-root user i got an error with my home directory and it logged me back out
[18:36] <Rooxo> i figured i made a mistake when installing and tried again, but now nothing is working
[18:36] <Rooxo> i think ill try again and if it doesnt work this time ill try another os or another sd card
[18:36] <kromag> ah much better
[18:36] <kromag> :-)
[18:36] <kromag> no more IoT
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[18:37] <kromag> and to top it all off: during installation it was forcing me to sign up for stupid crap and detouring me from my installation
[18:37] <kromag> and confusing the heck out of me
[18:37] <kromag> I'm under the influence lol
[18:37] <kromag> so it was a PITA to get back to the screen for some reason to actually DL the OS
[18:37] <kromag> nuts
[18:38] <kromag> Cause I did it via Ethernet cable
[18:38] <kromag> directly on Pi
[18:38] <skywall> Hitechcg: I tried directly via usb keyboard and monitor, also tried via ssh
[18:38] <kromag> worst experience
[18:38] <kromag> I'm going to discredit their little Operation
[18:38] <skywall> RoBo_V: Possibly an abrupt shutdown at one point. I used ctl+alt+del and the issue magically disappeared... I'd still like to learn the source of the issue though.
[18:39] <skywall> RoBo_V: Post-ctrl alt del fsck said the dirty bit was set though
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[18:43] <RoBo_V> I have media drive hooked to RPi3 24/7 download torrent download, I need some sort of wireless projector that can display the content of it. What is best option?
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[18:59] <pwillard> Archlinux assumes your time is worth pennies and you get your jollies by doing everything the long and tedious way, as we did back in 1994. So I have no love for it.
[19:00] <Rooxo> but using arch you learn a lot about the system
[19:00] <Rooxo> if i had never installed arch on my laptop i would not know as much about linux
[19:01] <shiftplusone> you can learn more using gentoo or LFS
[19:01] <Rooxo> yeah but gentoo takes even longer to set up
[19:02] <shiftplusone> Well, how else will you learn =P
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[19:02] <Rooxo> i mean the time it takes compiling is so long
[19:02] <Rooxo> and every time i want an update i have to compile again
[19:02] <shiftplusone> but yeah, I it's definitely worthwhile learning how stuff works under the hood. Debian does things the same way, so all you need to do is avoid fancy GUI tools for a short while.
[19:02] * pwillard has used Unix since 1981.
[19:03] <pwillard> I happy there are versions that are quick to install and tweak
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[19:04] <Rooxo> tbh its also kind of fun setting up everything myself
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[19:10] <pwillard> Maybe a few times...
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[19:12] <Rooxo> i mean if you have to do it too often it won't be interesting anymore
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[19:12] <Rooxo> but since i have my laptop i only had to install arch twice
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[19:13] <Rooxo> and i did save most of my configs like vimrc and bashrc on github so it's even faster
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[19:58] <GrandPa-G> If I connect my pi to a monitor, boot, I get no display. If I ssh from somewhere else and do a reboot, then the monitor shows every thing. Any idea why?
[19:58] <ThePendulum> damn, my Pi's CPU is hot to the touch, yet it only reports 52.6°C
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[19:59] <Bilby> they do get hot
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[19:59] <shiftplusone> Touch isn't a good way of telling if electronics are hot
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[20:00] <Bilby> GrandPa-G: so you don't get a display on first boot, but if you reboot without pulling power you get a display? weird
[20:00] <gordonDrogon> more people feel > 45�C as too hot to touch.
[20:00] <Bilby> maybe your display isn't initializing in time and doesn't pick up the pi's signal? try unplug / replug the display or turn it off / on?
[20:00] <GrandPa-G> Bilby: exactly
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[20:01] <GrandPa-G> I have tried every combination on the monitor to have it on during boot, off, the quickly on, pushed all the buttons.....
[20:01] <GrandPa-G> I will mention that I am using a hdmi to vga convertor cable.
[20:02] <Bilby> hmm, still
[20:02] <Bilby> any chance you can try it directly into an HDMI monitor?
[20:02] <ThePendulum> gordonDrogon: I'm not sure what kind of temperatures I can leave it running at
[20:02] <gordonDrogon> it's fine up to 80�C
[20:02] <GrandPa-G> That would be difficult to try.
[20:02] <Bilby> once it starts boiling water, start to worry
[20:02] <ThePendulum> gordonDrogon: for how long though? I might have it running at 45-55°C for days
[20:02] <TwoNotes> My Rpi3 came with little stick-on heat sinks. Did you ge those?
[20:02] <ThePendulum> in the summer it might even get hotter
[20:03] <ThePendulum> TwoNotes: I'm considering it
[20:03] <GrandPa-G> it is not a big deal, just annoying
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[20:03] <ThePendulum> TwoNotes: didn't come with any though
[20:03] <TwoNotes> I order a whole kit, with case, power supply, etc. It came with that
[20:03] <ThePendulum> I already had the PSU from my Pi 1 so I just got the Pi and a case
[20:04] <Bilby> On the 3 they're more useful, especially in a case
[20:04] <gordonDrogon> ThePendulum, who knows... however I know of electronics that have been working day/night in desert conditions, so ...
[20:04] <ThePendulum> TwoNotes: what are they, 15×15mm?
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[20:04] <TwoNotes> ThePendulum, search Amazon for "Raspberry Pi heatsink". Its about $5 for three.
[20:05] <TwoNotes> One bigger one for the SoC, and a smaller one for the support chip
[20:05] <ThePendulum> let me see if my usual pi supplier has any of that
[20:05] <oq> those little heatsinks are useless
[20:06] <torekk> ThePendulum: SoC should be 14x14mm and the other one 8x8mm
[20:06] <TwoNotes> oq, prob ably, one you enclose the whole thing in a plastic case...
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[20:06] <ThePendulum> torekk: hmm I don't have room for the other one :/
[20:06] <GrandPa-G> ThePendulum: I just measured the one that came with my canakit. It could be 14x14
[20:06] <ThePendulum> the other one is the GPU I assume?
[20:07] <ThePendulum> that won't really be getting any load
[20:07] <torekk> ThePendulum: no it's actually the usb controller
[20:07] <ThePendulum> izzit?
[20:07] <ThePendulum> how does that get so hot
[20:07] <TwoNotes> Amazon lists several suppliers of these things. They look to be the appropriate size. One is bigger than the other
[20:07] <ThePendulum> yeah I found one for 5eu here https://www.kiwi-electronics.nl/raspberry-pi-heat-sink-kit
[20:07] <ThePendulum> oh it says right there it's for the USB/Ethernet controller
[20:08] <TwoNotes> Most of the Amazon ones are 5USD for one big and one small one
[20:08] <gordonDrogon> beat in-mind that a heatsink is pretty useless if it's in a sealed box...
[20:08] <ThePendulum> TwoNotes: yeah, usually translates to the same amount in euros with taxes and EU regulations
[20:08] <ThePendulum> gordonDrogon: behold! http://i.imgur.com/7gvv5nN.jpg
[20:08] <TwoNotes> My Rpi3 does not have a monitor connected at all, which probably reduces the heat load
[20:09] <gordonDrogon> ThePendulum, yes? that's a coup� case ...
[20:09] <ThePendulum> is the HDMI wired through the USB or something? or the USB to the GPIO or something
[20:09] <ThePendulum> regardless why is that USB chip producing so much heat?
[20:09] <ThePendulum> gordonDrogon: yeah, should work well
[20:09] <ThePendulum> as long as the ambient temperature is lower
[20:10] <TwoNotes> I seem to recall the SDcard interface shares some circuits with the USB, maybe that
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> ThePendulum, sure - just don't put that inside a sealed box (I've no idea your application though)
[20:10] <ThePendulum> don't think I will, the pibow is supposed to be its entire casing
[20:10] <TwoNotes> Do they make little tiny coolers for Rpis? Experience tells me that fanless computers are not a good idea in the long run
[20:11] <ThePendulum> someone has done it but I don't think there'll be much of an advantage unless you're overclocking
[20:11] <ThePendulum> TwoNotes: I actually have a whole bunch of fanless CPU heatsinks from the 70-80s
[20:11] <torekk> TwoNotes: you can buy those on ebay, but imo they're too pricey at about 10$
[20:11] <ThePendulum> maybe early 90s, not sure how long that went on
[20:12] <TwoNotes> I have noticed that laptop-type HDDs in fanless cases get really hot, and the system starts acting erratic
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[20:12] <TwoNotes> Especially when left on all the time as in a file server
[20:13] <nemo> pwillard: 1988 personally, but that was as a "user" - didn't have it on actual personal machine until many years later
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[20:14] <nemo> and forget being a sysop
[20:14] <ThePendulum> hmm so it's http://i.imgur.com/oIdW7hW.jpg versus http://i.imgur.com/Iiyttu4.jpg, not sure which is the better design
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[20:15] <Bilby> the second one will perform better with radiant / passive, the first probably better with a fan
[20:15] <torekk> ThePendulum: the fin design only makes a marginal impact, what's more important is is it copper or aluminum?
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[20:15] <Bilby> also i'm pretty sure even the most inefficient radiator works well enough for the Pi
[20:15] <torekk> ThePendulum: if possible, get an copper one
[20:16] <ThePendulum> neither bother to mention the material :/
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[20:17] <ThePendulum> some negative comments about the tape on the uncoated ones, apparently the temperature actually rises on idle
[20:17] <oq> TwoNotes: tiny fans are only good for making noise and not so much moving air
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[20:17] <TwoNotes> Yes, anything smaller than 4cm is probably useless
[20:18] <oq> TwoNotes: you can get cases like this, https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51WRCRdUehL._SL1001_.jpg, but I don't see the point
[20:19] <torekk> ThePendulum: I highly doubt a heatsink will raise the temperature, at worst it doesn't do much, but that's usually because there isn't any airflow in the case
[20:19] <ThePendulum> yeah it seems like a lot of people are putting these in closed cases
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[20:20] <torekk> and most people forget that ARM is designed for higher temperatures, you don't see fans in smartphones, do you?
[20:20] <oq> torekk: wot
[20:20] <nemo> friend bought me this one
[20:20] <nemo> http://c4labs.net/products/zebra-case-raspberry-pi-b-black-ice
[20:21] <ThePendulum> torekk: lol I actually have one of these http://i.imgur.com/1ACnkLn.jpg
[20:21] <nemo> seems to have same heat sinks ThePendulum is considering
[20:21] <oq> nemo: those heatsinks are pretty much just for looks
[20:21] <oq> in fact they are supposed to make the pi3 even hotter
[20:22] <ThePendulum> apparently only around idle temps
[20:22] <ThePendulum> that is 40°C -> 42°C or the like
[20:22] <ThePendulum> under load it seems to make a significant difference
[20:22] <nemo> oq: oh? huh...
[20:22] <nemo> oq: got a cite? I'll yank 'em if so
[20:22] <nemo> don't find them that attractive
[20:22] <nemo> heck. I have to return this pi anyway
[20:22] <ThePendulum> torekk: I do think a lot of smartphones have a cooling arrangement similar to some laptops, though, no? like metal plating to dissipate heat
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[20:23] <ThePendulum> oh well, it does indeed look quite neat
[20:23] <Bilby> the pads that come with the heatsinks are pretty thick and the thermal barrier they present is probably not compensated for by the amount those fins can radiate
[20:24] <Bilby> if you pull them off and attach with a tiny amount of glue it'd probably work okay
[20:24] <ThePendulum> they come separately with the ones this store sells
[20:24] <oq> Bilby: I thought they were supposed to use thermal adhesive tape
[20:24] <ThePendulum> I might indeed just use some paste instead
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[20:27] <Bilby> oq: anything between the chip and the heatsink ends up being an insulator of some sort
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[20:28] <Bilby> heatsink paste, adhesive, pads, and tape are all designed to pass as much heat on as possible but they all insulate to one extent or another
[20:28] <TwoNotes> Smartphones spend most of their time idling, which helps
[20:28] <oq> Bilby: better than air
[20:29] <Bilby> because the SOC is not designed to have a heatsink and is designed to radiate passively, it's going to be even less efficient than a chip designed to have a heatsink attached
[20:29] <Bilby> oq you'd be surprised
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[20:30] <Bilby> Everything i've seen and read on the Pi indicates that on the 1 and Zero a heatsink is strictly decorative
[20:30] <ThePendulum> Bilby: I mean people are reporting some pretty significant temperature drops, I'm not sure if theory can really overcome that, heh
[20:30] <Bilby> also probably true on the 2 excepting particularly hot installs
[20:30] <Bilby> and on the 3 if in a case it's helpful
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[20:30] <ThePendulum> if in a case?
[20:31] <Bilby> ThePendulum: I'm not saying heatsinks can't help, but with those thick pads in the linked pics I wouldn't expect much
[20:31] <Bilby> ThePendulum: If the Pi is installed in a case or enclosure without much ability to passively radiate
[20:32] <ThePendulum> surely a heatsink wouldn't really help either
[20:32] <ThePendulum> if the heatsink is also still in the case
[20:32] <Bilby> if there's some venting a heatsink might help get the heat up near the vented area
[20:32] <TwoNotes> Could always just leave the lid off the case
[20:32] <nemo> Bilby: so... this one my firend bought me... has cutaways on top for the pins, and on bottom for hanging it and for the CPU
[20:32] <nemo> Bilby: would that be enough for cooling?
[20:33] <Bilby> in what situation?
[20:33] <nemo> the one on the bottom, the heatsink is flush w/ case
[20:33] <nemo> Bilby: you were saying that if in a case there'd be issues w/ passive radiation
[20:33] <nemo> was wondering how much airflow was needed
[20:33] <nemo> Bilby: http://c4labs.net/products/zebra-case-raspberry-pi-b-black-ice using this case
[20:33] <Bilby> are you having heat problems without it?
[20:33] <nemo> Bilby: haven't even had a chance to use it yet ☺ but was planning to use it mostly to make my dumb tv "smart"
[20:33] <nemo> internet/vids
[20:34] <nemo> the case was purely for æsthetics when hooked up
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[20:34] <Bilby> sorry, got a call afk
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[20:39] <sKyZ> Any suggestions for hooking a pie up to four car speakers? I want to get a double DINN console piece for my car and use a 5" touchscreen with the pi, but can't figure out the best way to hook it up to the cars audio
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[20:41] <Chillum> fyi the pi does not have great audio
[20:42] <Bilby> nemo: looks shiny. no idea if there will be heat issues. it looks like it comes with heat sinks, so might as well?
[20:43] <Chillum> you will need an amplifier between the pi and your speakers
[20:43] <nemo> Bilby: yeah. I was just wondering since oq said the heat sinks were harmful
[20:43] <nemo> Chillum: the TV will be handling the speakers
[20:43] <nemo> er wait
[20:43] <nemo> Chillum: pi doesn't do audio over hdmi?
[20:43] <Syliss> anyone getting a nexdock?
[20:43] <Chillum> oh did not think of hdmi
[20:43] <Syliss> looks like a decent lapdock replacement
[20:44] <Chillum> I should say the analog output on the pi is not so great
[20:44] <Chillum> hdmi sounds fine, I use it for my media system
[20:44] <nemo> BTW, HDMI is not something I'm a huge fan of from a FOSS perspective due to HDCP
[20:44] <nemo> but. from a power consumption perspective...
[20:45] <nemo> does that play into things at all? I guess TV doesn't require HDCP input
[20:45] <nemo> and presumably the PI doesn't offer it
[20:45] <Bilby> due to the way heatsinks work, it's possible they raise the initial (idle) heat floor while still reducing the working heat ceiling
[20:45] <Bilby> the only way to be sure is to install and run it, average heat, install heatsinks, average heat and compare
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[20:49] <nemo> was hoping someone else had done the legwork already ☺
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[20:59] <atracht> how do you backup a pi image so it's not the whole size of the sd card
[21:00] <nemo> gzip?
[21:00] <nemo> dd | gz | nc was how I used to do my network backups
[21:01] <nemo> and clones
[21:01] <atracht> i'm doing dd with mac
[21:01] <atracht> is there a way to do that so it doesn't use the whole 32gb card to an image
[21:03] <nemo> atracht: count parameter for dd
[21:03] <nemo> atracht: if your filesystem is using whole thing, you need to copy whole card of course
[21:03] <atracht> what does that do
[21:03] <atracht> it's not I'm trying to create a base image
[21:04] <nemo> atracht: count just determines how far to read
[21:04] <zeeshan> i dunno if count will work
[21:04] <zeeshan> cause your data is likely stored in random areas
[21:04] <nemo> bs=1M count=10 means dump 10M
[21:04] <zeeshan> have you looked into clonezilla?
[21:04] <nemo> zeeshan: yeah. sure. unless he's got the disc partitioned appropriately
[21:04] <atracht> so i could do something like count=512 for 512mb
[21:05] <nemo> zeeshan: not sure why he doesn't want to copy the whole card tho... it doesn't need to take 32GiB - especially gzipped
[21:05] <zeeshan> yea but what if his paritition is 30gb
[21:05] <zeeshan> then itll try to grab the whole thing
[21:05] <zeeshan> i know what hes trying to do-- similar to the windows 7 imager
[21:05] <nemo> I really have no idea what his goal is TBH ☺
[21:05] <nemo> zeeshan: but dd | gz | nc on a single partition should back it up just fine
[21:05] <nemo> skip the nc if the card is plugged into desktop computer and just dump to file
[21:06] <atracht> so gz will compact the img?
[21:06] <nemo> dd if=/dev/rpimainpartition of=foo then gzip foo to avoid burning 32 gigs of disc
[21:06] <nemo> atracht: sure
[21:06] <nemo> atracht: when I back up partitions I zero 'em out first to save space
[21:06] <nemo> dd if=/dev/zero of=randomfile
[21:06] <nemo> wait for partition to run out of space
[21:06] <nemo> then rm randomfile
[21:06] <nemo> compresses much better then ☺
[21:06] <zeeshan> that makes sense
[21:06] <zeeshan> that'll accomplish what he's trying to do
[21:07] <Jusii> i don't get why everybody just wants an image. tar the whole fs, no space wasted
[21:07] <nemo> Jusii: well. can be more convenient. also ensures you get all your filesystem metadata
[21:07] <zeeshan> i like an image
[21:07] <Jusii> and making new card from .tar is like 3 line script
[21:07] <nemo> Jusii: when I move to a new computer I do the dd | gz | nc just 'cause it is simpler
[21:07] <zeeshan> crap goes back where its supposed to :P
[21:08] <zeeshan> has anyone here played with the v2 cam?
[21:08] <zeeshan> i just got one
[21:08] <zeeshan> excited to try it out :)
[21:08] <Jusii> tar c | tar x effectively copies whole system
[21:08] <atracht> if I use if I use count, will running expand in raspi-config expand the volume after it's restored, or do I even need to do that?
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[21:14] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[21:19] <nemo> Jusii: with -p and --xattrs I guess
[21:19] <nemo> Jusii: it's just easier to completely clobber the device
[21:19] <nemo> no ambiguity
[21:19] <nemo> tar's a bit faster I guess. never run a speed test
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[21:30] <Jusii> a bit?
[21:31] <Jusii> depends how full your card is
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[21:32] <Jusii> 32GB card with 1GB actually in use tar is 32 times fster
[21:33] <Jusii> sorry almost 63 times faster as you needed to zero it out first
[21:37] <Jusii> also you can use tar on live system
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[22:54] <Chunkyz> what's the command to install the sd card copier on raspbian lite?
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[22:57] <Ivoah> Chunkyz: looks like piclone is what you want
[22:57] <Ivoah> so 'sudo apt-get install piclone
[22:57] <Ivoah> '
[22:58] <Chunkyz> yeah, thanks, just saw that on the forums :p
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[23:00] <Chunkyz> I just updated to stretch, there's a massive difference in speed, y'know.
[23:00] <Ivoah> what's stretch?
[23:00] <Chunkyz> debian testing :p
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[23:05] <shiftplusone> Chunkyz: where's the difference in speed coming from? how are you measuring it?
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[23:09] <exonormal> probably with a ruler....
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[23:10] <Chunkyz> shiftplusone, app opening times, app installing times, boot times etc and my sd card IS NOT overclocked.
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[23:11] <Chunkyz> basic config apart from the odd disable_splash etc
[23:11] <Chunkyz> doesn't seem to be running as hot, too.
[23:11] <Chunkyz> let me check.
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[23:12] <Chunkyz> heh.
[23:13] <shiftplusone> I am a bit sceptical, since that would imply faster IO and memory access, which wouldn't happen without something major happening in the kernel.
[23:13] <shiftplusone> and it's the same kernel
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[23:14] <Chunkyz> idk...
[23:15] <Chunkyz> I'm just a noob /ignore me
[23:16] <SpeedEvil> Boot time can easily have massive variance
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[23:18] <shiftplusone> Yeah and I assume that stretch has much less sysvinit scripts, so that's plausible, but the rest...
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[23:19] <ramkam2013> greetings
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[23:20] <ramkam2013> been lent a rpi for a demo, gave it back. still have the card with noobs on it. and i'm trying to retrieve some files (osx). cant find the partitions. is there a way to do that ?
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[23:20] <shiftplusone> ramkam2013: would be easier from linux (VM would be okay if you have a usb sd card reader)
[23:21] <ramkam2013> shiftplusone: k' got a ubuntu vm somewhere
[23:21] <shiftplusone> that'll do
[23:21] <ramkam2013> it's ext2 ?
[23:21] <shiftplusone> ext4
[23:21] <ramkam2013> cool, thx, so it's standard partitions
[23:21] <shiftplusone> yup, nothing fancy
[23:22] <ramkam2013> cool!
[23:22] <ramkam2013> hum. made me lazy. ExtFS could read ext4 ?
[23:23] <ramkam2013> seems that it can ;-)
[23:23] <ramkam2013> thx
[23:23] <shiftplusone> excellent
[23:23] <shiftplusone> didn't know what solutions there are on macs for reading ext filesystems. Last time I checked, mostly commercial ones popped up.
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[23:24] <ramkam2013> yeah extfs is a kind of a dinosaur, but works great
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[23:25] <ramkam2013> considered some time ago to make my own fs because i had ideas :-) but then decided to stick on smaller projects :D
[23:27] <shiftplusone> your own fs? madman
[23:27] <ramkam2013> well it's not that complex
[23:27] <shiftplusone> depends on the ideas
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[23:28] <shiftplusone> Plenty of filesystems exist but few are stable and maintained, so that kind of tells me that it's probably much complicated than it seems.
[23:28] <ramkam2013> btw, there's also paragon NTFS , that allows to RW ntfs drives.
[23:28] <shiftplusone> *much more
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[23:29] <ramkam2013> well, yes, and i chose to stick to smaller projects :-)
[23:29] <ramkam2013> :D
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[23:36] <binaryhermit> http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/05/24/google-is-preparing-to-add-the-raspberry-pi-3-to-aosp-it-will-apparently-become-an-officially-supported-device/
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[23:43] <yoosi> binaryhermit: I'm having trouble thinking of a practical application of Android on RPi3
[23:43] <yoosi> I suppose it could make a nice large wall mounted tablet
[23:44] <yoosi> Like the *original* surface concept
[23:44] <yoosi> Bleh, now I'm thinking of all kinds of uses. My wallet isn't going to like this
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[23:45] <mlelstv> the main use is probably to write apps for it.
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[23:47] <yoosi> Oh, I'm sure that's the driving force behind Google putting Android on RPi
[23:47] <yoosi> Get more devs building on their platforms
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