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IRC Log for 2016-06-06

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[0:00] <stormpp> What is name of the Interface (GPIO) for connecting a Relay on a RPi 2 Model B ? In other words in what pins can I connect a relay ?
[0:01] <jancoow> pff, stupid me
[0:01] <jancoow> did solder some extra sensors to my pi; hang it again into place with screws
[0:01] <jancoow> boot up
[0:01] <mfa298> stormpp: you could use any of the controllable PINS (i.e. anything that's not 3v3, 5v, or gnd)
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[0:01] <jancoow> did i exactly solder it to a not working pin
[0:02] <jancoow> i should have tested it xD
[0:02] <stormpp> mfa298, ok thks :) I just read that they all have interface name such as: BCM, I2C and each have their purpose and kind got confused )))
[0:04] <mfa298> stormpp: some can be connected to I2C, SPI, and similar peripherals, but they can be used as GPIO as well
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[0:05] <stormpp> oh ok thks :)
[0:05] <mfa298> stormpp: the UART ports (rxd, txd) are used by default to provide a serial console so you might want to stay away from them, and possibly stay away from the others if you might want to use those peripherals
[0:06] <stormpp> no, I just want to use a Relay that is all
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[0:06] <stormpp> :)
[0:06] <stormpp> mfa298, ^
[0:06] <stormpp> but thks :)
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[0:07] <curlyears> stormpp: a good idea to include a driver transistor or driver chip between your GPIO and your relay
[0:07] <stormpp> curlyears, what does do ?
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[0:08] <stormpp> those*
[0:08] <mfa298> and diode for the backemf from the relay coil
[0:09] <curlyears> stormpp: 1) ensure that the relay coil current doesn't cause overlaod on the GPIO pin, and 2) isolate the GPIO from induxctive kickback (as mfa298's suggestion of a freewheeling diode would also do)
[0:09] <mfa298> stormpp: basicly you don't just connect the relay coil direct to the gpio, you use a transistor circuit to drive the realy, and a reverse diode over the relay coil
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[0:10] <stormpp> Ok thks for the help guys :)
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[0:11] <mfa298> stormpp: something like http://tomhorsley.com/hardware/cellphone/phonetale/markII.html#Same%20Old%20Relay
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[0:12] <jancoow> strange thing btw; when i do cat /sys/class/gpio/gpio18/value it works, but when i do the equalivant with gpio24 it can't find the directory/file :/
[0:13] <jancoow> how is that possible?
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[0:14] <mfa298> jancoow: I think things only exist in /sys/class/gpio if you've exported them via that interface (by pushing data into /sys/class/gpio/export)
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[0:14] <mfa298> not everything will use the sysfs (/sys) interface to talk to gpio
[0:16] <jancoow> oh sorry;; stupid me
[0:16] <jancoow> ugh sorry for asking stupid questions :/
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[0:18] <mfa298> stupid questions are only the ones you don't ask. (I have no problem helping people learn, and hope others will help me when I'm stuck with what they might think is a stupid question)
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[0:18] <yoosi> Hi gang. I get the following error when I try to read any man page on Raspbian Jessie Lite: man: error while loading shared libraries: libmandb-2.7.0.2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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[0:19] <curlyears> reinstall the man utility, yoosi
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[0:22] <yoosi> curlyears: Will do. Thanks
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[0:25] <curlyears> should resolve it, but make sure there are no installationn errors regarding any of the library files
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[0:28] <datareaver> Hello
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[0:33] <datareaver> I have an issue with the wifi built-in on my rpi 3, sometimes at boot the interface is not loaded at all wlan0 is not in the result of ip link
[0:34] <datareaver> I'm using raspbian iso image without X
[0:34] <datareaver> with the last version of the firmware and linux kernel 4.4.6-v7+
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[0:38] <datareaver> if somebody already have the same issue ?
[0:38] <datareaver> or know the name of the module loaded ?
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[0:41] <datareaver> I'm using the last update of jessie raspbian
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[0:43] <datareaver> if somebody can help please :)
[0:44] <nebadon> hang around for a bit datareaver, not everyone is always watching their screen here
[0:44] <nebadon> i unfortunately do not have a pi3 yet
[0:45] <giddles> i like the 2 more
[0:45] <giddles> better sd card holder, nicer temps
[0:47] <datareaver> nebadon, sure :)
[0:47] <giddles> its cheap its for kids blabla lobby seems like to see this thing as cheapest solution ;) it isnt cheap.. a fully rpi i pay 70 euro with case.. compared to an odroid which cost 94 euro even with nt... hmmm
[0:47] <giddles> where is the favour? call it for kids and take the price of a power machine?
[0:48] <ozzzy> giddles, it's darned cheap
[0:48] <giddles> 70 euro super cheap
[0:48] <giddles> add 24euro and you got 8 cores
[0:48] <giddles> with power suplly
[0:48] <giddles> :D
[0:48] <ozzzy> $35US... you should tell your vendors to stop screwing you
[0:49] <giddles> i knew there will be haters
[0:49] <ozzzy> I bought 2 Pi3s, 2 cases and 2 power supplies for < $100
[0:49] <ozzzy> oh... and 2 SD cards
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[0:49] <giddles> well i need a sd card, a case, some heatsinks, a power suppy, pi itself (39eur)...
[0:50] <giddles> transportation cost also there
[0:50] <ozzzy> you don't need heatsinks
[0:51] <ozzzy> but... if you feel you do you can get them for a dollar from ebay
[0:51] <giddles> not in europe
[0:51] <giddles> and ebay i dont like
[0:51] <ozzzy> free shipping
[0:51] <mfa298> Pretty sure I've managed 2x Pi3 + heatsink + cases + PSU for under £100.
[0:51] <datareaver> Raspbian isn't even reporting that the physical device wlan0 exists.
[0:52] <mfa298> and I've got heatsinks left over for the next few Pi3s
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[0:52] <h4k1m> HI
[0:52] <h4k1m> my samsung tablet's charger output is 2Amp
[0:53] <giddles> here im a noob, on a rpi convention next to me im an alien.... @ running suvelliance on it
[0:53] <giddles> maybe pi should split in 2 parts, teach and tech
[0:53] <ozzzy> the Pi is a good little computer
[0:53] <giddles> this uk sony soc is very stable, i use it now for longer and im happy with
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[0:54] <h4k1m> can it be used with the RPi? knowing that the charger and its microusb/usb can be sptit
[0:55] <h4k1m> split
[0:55] <giddles> on rpi the iot revolution can come ;)
[0:55] <giddles> but not on the new sd card holder!
[0:55] <giddles> all my cases are useless
[0:55] <mfa298> h4k1m: it may work, it might even be stable, but chargers are designed for charging phones so might not be stable enough for powering a Pi
[0:56] <h4k1m> mfa298: thanks, which charger would you suggest? and would it work equally on both RPi2 and RPi3?
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[0:57] <mfa298> h4k1m: the only thing I'd recommend is the Official Pi PSU, phone chargers may work but could also have issues.
[0:57] <ozzzy> I run mine from a USB3 port on my desktop
[0:58] <h4k1m> ozzzy: usb3 delivers around 900mA (http://superuser.com/questions/690074/what-is-the-power-output-of-a-usb-port)
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[0:59] <h4k1m> ozzzy: is it enough if you want to mount a keyboard and an lcd screen?
[0:59] <ozzzy> http://www.togastro.com/ozzzy/images/pi2.jpg <-- Pi3 with mouse/kbd dongle, wifi dongle, usb stick and usb hdd running from a USB3 port
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[1:00] <h4k1m> cool!
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[1:00] <ozzzy> you can't hot-plug things... but they run
[1:00] <mfa298> h4k1m: according to the specs the Pi3 can use 1.34A at peak load (https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/#powerReqs)
[1:01] <h4k1m> mfa298: I see. it needs more power
[1:02] <mfa298> my earlier experience was that a Pi3 on a poor PSU appears to run but will stay at it's low speed (600MHz) setting and won't go up to the max speed (1.2GHz)
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[1:03] <h4k1m> some eu to uk power adapters are 1 amp, does it mean that they would limit the intensity to 1amp?
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[1:04] <mfa298> EU-UK adapters are uually just bits of bent metal in a suitable housing for the different socket styles. Both are supposedly around 220V(AC)
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[1:05] <mfa298> the rating at that point will be how much current current they can handle (probably at 220V) - which is higher current at lower voltage
[1:05] <mfa298> but the low voltage current will be dependant on the circitury
[1:06] <shauno> (worth remembering 1A at 230V is >26A at 5V)
[1:06] <ozzzy> and if the pi draws 1A at 5v that's not much at 220
[1:07] <mfa298> but PSU's managing clean 26A at 5V are expensive
[1:07] <shauno> right, I more mean that 1A at the wall isn't really a relevant limitation for this
[1:08] <mfa298> yup, that's where I was trying to get to with my ramble. The PSU circuit *will* be the limiting factor so it the thing to look at
[1:09] <shauno> I end up saying the same thing every time .. most our problems stem from pretending a charger and a powersupply are the same thing
[1:10] <pyroxide> need 2mm pitch female connectors
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[1:11] <h4k1m> mfa298: shauno thanks guys ^^
[1:11] <mfa298> shauno: agreed. I'll stick to: buy the official PSU an your problems are unlikely to be power related, use some random charger and prepare for misery.
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[1:14] <h4k1m> mfa298: shauno which supplier (in the uk) would you suggest to buy the psu?
[1:15] <shauno> no idea. apple chargers seem to breed down the back of my couch, so I've just stuck with them
[1:16] <mfa298> h4k1m: for the official psu try your favourite pi supplier (i tend to use rs as I have an account and can collect locally)
[1:16] <shauno> they still have the same drop-off that's endemic to chargers, but they atleast reach what the label claims, which is all I ask
[1:17] <oq> h4k1m: https://thepihut.com/collections/raspberry-pi-power-supplies/products/official-raspberry-pi-universal-power-supply
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[1:18] <h4k1m> oq: perfect thanks
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[1:26] <Crom> EU-UK Deathadaptrs as stated by big Clive
[1:27] * Berg is now known as sydney
[1:27] <Crom> think I'll make some acylic vesa plates for my raspberry pi 3's
[1:27] * sydney is now known as Berg
[1:28] <mfa298> well the UK socket design is supposedly one of the safer designs, unless you start adding the kid proof covers which may make them less safe.
[1:29] <abnormal> Crom: I used velcro to attach my pi's to the monitors
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[1:29] <Crom> I have a laser cutter so why not
[1:29] <abnormal> dog
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[1:30] <Berg> ??
[1:30] <Berg> morning all
[1:30] <abnormal> evening, Berg
[1:30] <abnormal> 19:30 here
[1:31] <jancoow> have a good night
[1:31] <jancoow> 1:30 here
[1:31] <jancoow> go to bed
[1:31] <jancoow> byebye
[1:31] <abnormal> nite
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[1:32] <pypi> Hello
[1:32] <pypi> I am trying to type a "A" when a button connected to my Raspberry Pi 2's GPIO is pressed. How would I do this with Python?
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[1:36] <Chillum> type?
[1:37] <Berg> if you run python in console print('A') is a comand to display it
[1:37] <Chillum> if you want to simulate keypresses there is a tool called xdotool
[1:37] <pypi> Chillum: Yes I would like to Type an "A" into the Pi when the Button is pressed
[1:38] <Chillum> http://xmodulo.com/simulate-key-press-mouse-movement-linux.html
[1:38] <pypi> Berg: Oh that sounds interesting. How would I do that?
[1:38] <Chillum> it sends the key wherever the focus is
[1:38] <pypi> Chillum: Oh I see. What does xdotool do?
[1:39] <Chillum> it makes the computer think someone just pressed a key on the keyboard
[1:39] <Chillum> but I am not really sure what you want now
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[1:40] <Berg> key = getch()
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[1:40] <Berg> if key == 'a':
[1:40] <pypi> Chillum: I would like it so that when I press the button that is connected to my raspberry pi's GPIO, an "A" is sent to the Pi as if I typed it on a regular keyboard
[1:41] <Berg> opps import == from msvcrt import getch
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[1:41] <pypi> Berg: Interesting. How would I check for the button press?
[1:41] <Berg> if key == 'a':
[1:42] <Berg> that checks
[1:43] <pypi> Berg: How do I know when the GPIO button has been pressed?
[1:44] <Berg> iso if your button is pressed then you check if its hi or low
[1:47] <Berg> if GPIO.input(pinnumber) == 0:
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[1:51] <Berg> pypi http://razzpisampler.oreilly.com/ch07.html
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[1:52] * [Saint] wonders if the metric craptonne of recent RPi-targeted Hi-Fi audio boards is sending a message to the RPF
[1:53] <[Saint]> "...pssssst, audio is subpar at best, pssssst"
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[1:54] <mfa298> you might need to speak more cleary or they might not be able to make out what your saying :p
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[1:55] <mfa298> then again audiophiles will spend a fortune on anything that might supposedly make it sound better ($500 directional ethernet cable included)
[1:57] <[Saint]> A lot of the audiophile stuff is genuine rubbish, basically, but the audio path on the raspis is pretty garbage even for mediocre standards.
[1:58] <[Saint]> It was frankly terrible on the A/B/B Rev 2 (not Rpi B Model 2), and it is just barely passable on the others.
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[1:58] * mfa298 is behind the times, there's now a $10,000 ethernet cable
[1:58] <[Saint]> You can actually hear the sdcard accesses.
[1:58] <[Saint]> Bad shielding is bad.
[1:58] <devslash> What is the highest capacity microsd that the rpi 3 supports ?
[1:58] * Tachyon` is now known as Tachaway
[1:59] <[Saint]> devslash: the SD spec, like everything else.
[1:59] <devslash> What does what mean
[1:59] <[Saint]> in other words, an order of magnitude greater than any available sdcard.
[1:59] <ozzzy> damn NdGT is horrible to listen to
[1:59] * SpeedEvil stabs that it's only one order.
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[2:00] <[Saint]> Well, we'll NEVER reach 4TB density with the current approach in that form factor.
[2:00] <[Saint]> not even with ~2 micron fabs.
[2:01] <[Saint]> So it is safe to say that any modern device can address any sized sd device available for the forsseable future barring massive tech advances.
[2:01] <[Saint]> a few older devices were crippled in software for shortsighted reasons.
[2:01] * mfa298 needs a new job https://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/product/8041/audioquest-diamond-rj-e-ethernet-cable-12m
[2:02] <mfa298> not sure I can acheive thier levels of "marketing" though
[2:02] <devslash> Does the pi support 128gb
[2:02] <[Saint]> mfa298: Have you not viewed the cringeworthy delight that is coconutaudio?
[2:03] <[Saint]> devslash: Yes. Like I just said, it will support any capacity man is capacble of producing for the forseable future.
[2:04] <mfa298> [Saint]: i listen to people that actually know about audio rather than audiophiles
[2:04] <[Saint]> mfa298: poke around in http://www.coconut-audio.com/ or search for "head-fi patrick82"
[2:04] <[Saint]> mfa298: yeah, but this guy is worth it for sheer train wreck status alone.
[2:04] <[Saint]> he's like, king of the audiophiles.
[2:05] <mfa298> i shall have to have a read
[2:05] <[Saint]> he's on a whole other level.
[2:05] <[Saint]> People used to think he was a very dedicated troll, but, if he is, he didn't break character in ~15 years.
[2:06] <[Saint]> http://www.head-fi.org/t/210323/famous-quotes-by-patrick82
[2:07] <[Saint]> (the guy that would end up running coconut-audio, a journey into the mindset of an absolute madman and/or genius and Darwin Award candidate)
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[2:07] <mfa298> I think the Flanders and Swann song "Sound of Reproduction" sums audiophiles up some of it fairly well
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[2:09] <[Saint]> I see that guy's cables like the spoon Homer had for that chilli cookoff in the simpsons.
[2:09] <[Saint]> I think Carl says "...they say he made it himself, out of a better spoon!"
[2:10] <h4k1m> is it okay to use the 2.5Amp (dedicated for RPi3) charger with RPi2?
[2:10] <[Saint]> Which is exactly what that nutcase does. Or did. He seems to have shut down.
[2:10] <[Saint]> h4k1m: yup.
[2:10] <oq> h4k1m: of course, usb only sends as much power as the devices needs
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[2:11] <[Saint]> well...
[2:11] <h4k1m> [Saint]: oq Thanks!
[2:11] <[Saint]> for a lot of reasons, that's not necessarily true.
[2:11] <[Saint]> but, yes, this is perfectly safe in this instance.
[2:13] <h4k1m> [Saint]: it won't damage the RPi right?
[2:13] <[Saint]> No.
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[2:14] <Berg> If you connect a 5 V 100 mA device to a 5 V 1 billion amp power supply, the device will draw 100 mA.
[2:14] <ozzzy> current is drawn not pushed
[2:15] <ozzzy> which is why you can hook up a little LED to an RV battery
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[2:17] <Chillum> if you provide the led with a resistor
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[2:19] <Berg> the Borg says resistance is futile???
[2:20] <h4k1m> makes sense
[2:21] <Berg> your AMPS will be added to the collective
[2:22] <mfa298> all your amps are belong to us
[2:22] <Berg> The maximum current capability of the supply is irrelevant as long as it is greater than the peak current rating of the device
[2:23] <plugwash> It's irrelevent in normal operation, but you should avoid using a ludicrously overpowered supply without additional protection.
[2:23] <shauno> (if this wasn't true, your electricity bill would be insane)
[2:24] <Berg> ludicrous power bill is in the mail
[2:25] <Berg> plus limited to a 5volt supply
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[2:30] <ozzzy> I think me pi is dead
[2:30] <shauno> wasn't me
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[2:31] <ozzzy> solid red and green leds... no indication that the lan cable is linked
[2:31] <ozzzy> ah well
[2:32] <shauno> on the plus side, you have a test subject to feed 100A to, to provide illustration for this conversation :)
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[2:32] <ozzzy> you can't 'feed' 100A
[2:33] <shauno> you can provide and then induce a failure mode that significantly lowers the resistance (but preferably now a whole short, since a proper supply would trip on that)
[2:34] <ozzzy> well... this thing ain't a gonna boot
[2:34] <ozzzy> so it's back in the drawer and I'll reformat the SD card
[2:34] <shauno> (it wasn't a serious suggestion anyway, if that wasn't obvious)
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[3:32] <Berg> red and green at the same time means traffic control has failed?
[3:32] <Berg> ok python rocks
[3:32] <Berg> i love python
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[3:51] <devslash> Im getting the raspberry pi 3. Which Linux distro do you guys recommend? Id probably need a distro without a gui
[3:52] <oq> devslash: raspbian lite
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[3:53] <devslash> I didnt know that there was a lite raspbian
[3:54] <devslash> What's the difference between raspbian and raspbian lite
[3:55] <sKyZ> less fat
[3:56] <shauno> you asked for a distro without a gui? that's basically the difference.
[3:56] <devslash> Ok
[3:56] <oq> shauno: and bloat like office suites
[3:56] <Berg> no cocktail-bar?
[3:56] <devslash> If lite doesnt have the gui or any gui apps thats fine
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[3:57] <Berg> i like raspbian jessie lite i just sudo apt-get install all the stuff i want
[3:58] <Berg> is there a new wifi manager comming that workls for mrpi3?
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[4:03] <oq> Berg: huh?
[4:04] <Berg> i can never get my wifi on my pi 3 to stay connected
[4:04] <Berg> i connect and if i disconnect for any reason wiothout rebooting my pi it wont reconnect
[4:05] <ball> Berg: Does it do the same if you use a USB WiFi adaptor?
[4:05] <Berg> i dont use one usb addaptor
[4:05] <Berg> have no spares
[4:05] <ball> Berg: That's unfortunate.
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[4:06] <Berg> yeah unfortunate i bought a pi3 or i dint buy a spare adaptor?
[4:06] * Berg snickers
[4:06] <exonormal> lol
[4:06] <Berg> im gona get a new router in a few days
[4:06] <ball> Berg: Possibly both ;-)
[4:07] <Berg> but in the jessie lite it needs a better autoconnect system
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[4:07] <Berg> you set and forget system would be good
[4:07] <Berg> :)
[4:07] <exonormal> that's why I use Jessie heavy...
[4:08] <Berg> is that better?
[4:08] <exonormal> oh yeah... flawless
[4:08] <Berg> well if thats better put the network manager from that in jessie lite?
[4:08] <Berg> do you have to manualy connect every reboot?
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[4:08] <exonormal> you could
[4:08] <exonormal> no
[4:09] <oq> Berg: jessie full would have a gui network manager but the backend would be exactly the sam
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[4:09] <exonormal> it auto connects for me
[4:09] <Berg> thats what i thought
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[4:10] <exonormal> all my pi's auto connect
[4:10] <Berg> ill run about from my PC to my pi3 rebooting every now and then till i get my new router
[4:11] <exonormal> ok
[4:11] <exonormal> if pi don't see wifi, it won't auto connect
[4:11] <Berg> by the way i got voice control working i used speech-recognition in python
[4:11] <Berg> it works good
[4:11] <exonormal> congrats
[4:12] <Berg> its a bit slow
[4:12] <Berg> but now i can order a latte
[4:12] <Berg> :)
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[4:28] <stiv> nice , Berg !
[4:29] <ball> Voice dictation stuff often struggles with my accent.
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[4:29] <Berg> learn australian
[4:29] <ball> ...but then so do local humans.
[4:29] <Berg> hahaha we have no accents
[4:30] <ball> Everyone has an accent ;-)
[4:30] <brianx> i don't.
[4:30] <Berg> i find the google recognition is pretty good at australian accents
[4:31] <Berg> americans talk funny
[4:31] <ball> Berg: That's what the Americans say about me. ;-)
[4:31] <Berg> :)
[4:32] <oq> accents aren't the problem, it's the slang they insist on using
[4:32] <Berg> crikey
[4:32] <Berg> why say that
[4:32] <Berg> im looking at wit.ai anyone used that yet?
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[4:34] <joe7dust> wow, big channel! I love you guys <3
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[4:34] <Berg> feel the lovew
[4:34] <joe7dust> is this the right place to ask a technical question about the pi zero, or does the zero have its own channel?
[4:34] <Berg> ask
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[4:35] <exonormal> 2015 Wit.ai, Inc. — Made in Palo Alto, California
[4:35] <Berg> always some one here that can help its the raspberry piu channel
[4:35] <joe7dust> can I use this ? if so how would I connect it exactly? https://www.adafruit.com/products/1774
[4:35] <ball> Is it a potato?
[4:36] <joe7dust> so far I know of 3 ways to get video: hdmi, the 2 composite pins to an RCA adapter, and the GPIO header which would require like 50 solder points or something
[4:37] <joe7dust> the v 1.3 seems to have a connection similar to the LCD I linked but I believe it was put there for hooking up a camera and may not be compatible with a display
[4:38] <oq> joe7dust: read the description, you need to get the model which also comes with a pcb
[4:38] <joe7dust> ok ty I saw that but wasn't sure if I would need the breakout board just to solder it directly
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[4:39] <joe7dust> they offer a huge white plastic thing with an array of holes and im not sure that would fit in my build
[4:40] <joe7dust> it would be sweet if i can just use HDMI but I don't think anyone makes a 2.9inch display with audio
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[4:41] <Berg> Wit.ai thinks you said testing one two three testing
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[4:41] <Berg> its very slow to respond
[4:42] <Berg> you dont have to use audio in hdmi you can use the jack for audio output
[4:42] <Berg> joe7dust:
[4:43] <Berg> i have a 10" touch screen i have seperatate audio
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[4:44] <joe7dust> ok thanks
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[4:46] <joe7dust> It looks like that screen might be out of the question "It is fine pitch so it is not so easy to solder! This is for expert SMT solderers." judging from the photo the pins are hardly 1mm apart
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[4:48] <ball> Yeah, don't be trying to solder those ;-)
[4:48] <joe7dust> this thing looks like it would help but only in the 3rd picture does it have the connector attached https://www.adafruit.com/products/1492
[4:50] <Berg> buy a screen that fits the pi?
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[4:51] <ball> Berg: Does the Pi Zero have an LVDS display connector though?
[4:51] <ball> (or whatever the display connector is that's on the larger boards)
[4:51] <Berg> my 10" screen has a hdmi and other connections aon the board that came with it
[4:51] <joe7dust> berg: that would be ideal yes, I'm looking for 2.9in to 3in
[4:51] <Berg> I dont know
[4:52] <joe7dust> I'm also open to using the 2pin composite video out with RCA adapter but not sure if they have small LCD that run off this
[4:52] <ball> joe7dust: Have you asked them?
[4:52] <joe7dust> adafruit? no
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[4:54] <NedScott> ha, I think I just replied to you on reddit, joe7dust
[4:54] <NedScott> this might be an option: https://www.adafruit.com/product/2454
[4:54] <joe7dust> you actually replied to the guy above me :P cool to see you here :)
[4:55] <NedScott> it should still fit in the lower case of the SP, but finding a 3.5 inch (or smaller) display that works with that board might be hard
[4:55] <NedScott> adafruit only lists a 5 inch one as the smallest that they've tested.
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[4:55] <joe7dust> don't tell me that :(
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[4:56] <NedScott> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2340692/GBAPi/relocation_02.jpg
[4:56] <NedScott> that's what I had to do with a composite screen, haha
[4:56] <joe7dust> cool
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[4:57] <NedScott> it would have worked if the ribbon was longer and didn't have components in it
[4:57] <NedScott> then the driver board could be in the lower half
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[4:57] <NedScott> but dang if I could find one like that
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[4:58] * NedScott wonders if he has pictures of the final device
[4:58] <NedScott> one part slightly pokes out of the top
[4:59] <NedScott> but I could probably replace it
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[4:59] <NedScott> however, I got distracted with making a gameboy DSi XL version ;)
[4:59] <joe7dust> I'm trying to fit it all inside and make it authentic looking as possible, but I understand that might not be
[4:59] <NedScott> then I got distracted from that
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[4:59] <NedScott> aye, same here
[5:00] <NedScott> https://learn.adafruit.com/adding-basic-audio-ouput-to-raspberry-pi-zero
[5:00] <NedScott> there's an audio out option
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[5:01] <ball> They have small LCDs but I don't know whether they'd take a CCIR input.
[5:01] <joe7dust> oh shit things just got serious NedScott
[5:01] <joe7dust> some one bought the etsy listing... will pay for help lmfao
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[5:01] <Berg> http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-inch-LCD-DIY-Monitor-for-Raspberry-Pi-HDMI-VGA-2AV-Driver-Board-Touch-Screen-/221956044950?hash=item33ad9c7896:g:4aoAAOSwll1WxqcJ
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[5:03] <NedScott> oh, actually, I did find a tiny HDMI screen once. However, it was over $100 USD, haha
[5:03] <NedScott> some specialty display for movie production
[5:05] <joe7dust> I believe only $50 and lower LCD would fit in my budget, just sold one for $250 pre-order
[5:05] <joe7dust> total parts need to be $150 or less
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[5:32] <linuxmint> Hello, my keyboard has a USB connection and power, but doesn't type anything on the RaPi3?
[5:32] <linuxmint> Also, my WiFi mouse only right clicks and has power, but doesn't move the pointer on the RaPi3? Works on other computers.
[5:35] <ball> I've never seen a WiFi mouse
[5:36] <ball> ...are you sure it isn't Bluetooth or proprietary ?
[5:37] <linuxmint> ball: sorry, probably Bluetooth. Has a little dongle that sticks into the RaPi3's USB port.
[5:38] <baldengineer> probably proprietary if it has a dongle
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[5:40] <baldengineer> what do you mean your keyboard has a USB connection? You, you've plugged it in? Or you've verified some other way that the Pi has enumerated it?
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[5:42] <ball> Is the keyboard also wireless?
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[5:57] <linuxmint> baldengineer: yes, I plugged the keyboard cable into the RaPi3's USB port.
[5:57] <linuxmint> ball: the keyboard has a USB cable, but the manual says it's Bluetooth.
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[5:57] <baldengineer> could it be that the cable only charges the keyboard?
[5:58] <CoJaBo> probably
[5:58] <linuxmint> baldengineer: I think so. The Bluetooth seems to be an issue on the mouse and keyboard though.
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[6:00] <baldengineer> well you need to install and configure bluetooth for the keyboard to work
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[6:01] <linuxmint> baldengineer: oh, I thought RaPi3 had Bluetooth setup. I'll get to work.
[6:01] <baldengineer> it does, but you have to turn on support and pair your device
[6:01] <baldengineer> just like any other PC / bluetooth host device
[6:01] <rxp> whats the best desktop os for raspberry pi 2? ive got ubuntu mate on mine now, but it seems a bit sluggish. had kali linux on it before, which ran better, but had other issues.
[6:01] <linuxmint> k
[6:01] <Smeef> Anyone know why all the ports on the hubpixed stop working if I have something plugged into the micro usb port on the pi zero?
[6:01] <Smeef> only for power
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[6:03] <joe7dust> ok dumb noob question
[6:03] <joe7dust> will ANY OTG cable work for connection a keyboard to RPi0? 99% of the listings on ebay say they are for some specific model of phone/tablet
[6:04] <joe7dust> and I just read the the OTG standard differs from a "standard" usb adapter in that one of the pins is grounded
[6:04] <Valduare> keyword stuffing
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[6:04] <joe7dust> valduare that was what i was hoping.. ill just grab one of the sub-$2 ones then ty
[6:04] <Valduare> joe7dust: here’s my vid on adapters for pi zero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjbKOGeBupw
[6:05] <joe7dust> now if you could just search ebay by delivery date...
[6:05] <joe7dust> so annoying to find something then see it is going to take 2 weeks for delivery despite them being in the US
[6:05] <Valduare> no need
[6:05] <Valduare> no need for OTG cable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Wp9AfILYE
[6:05] <Valduare> try this vid
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[6:06] <joe7dust> the mile radius tool is kind of useful on that, but in reality the way shipping lines go it varies greatly for exmple last i researh it something from CA to TX or NY to TX usually arrives much faster than something from say Idaho
[6:06] <joe7dust> they already have the dlivery guarantee dates it would be a simple matter for them to allow a maximum delivery date in the shipping refinements
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[6:10] <joe7dust> handy tip but i dont own an extension cable
[6:10] <joe7dust> i could probably repurpose one of the my front USB ports on my desktop tho...
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[6:17] <joe7dust> time zones are freaking weird... still don't quite get how I am 2 hours from CA but only 1 hour from NY when they are literally the same distance east to west
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[6:20] <joe7dust> NedScott you still around?
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[6:20] <ball> More of a GMT man, myself.
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[6:21] <joe7dust> I don't mind using GMT but that doesn't change the fact I am about 1500 miles from both CA and NY yet one is more than double the time away
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[6:27] <[Saint]> joe7dust: there's very, very, very little correlation between any given time zone and its latitude.
[6:28] <[Saint]> in theory it would be linearly divided.
[6:28] <[Saint]> but...it isn't.
[6:28] <[Saint]> for, reasons.
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[6:29] <[Saint]> crap, longitude.
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[6:30] <[Saint]> you'll often see time zones do weird jumps to include or disinclude entirely nations/isles.
[6:30] <[Saint]> *entire
[6:31] <ball> I like that Newfoundland is half an hour out from most of the other time zones in North America :-)
[6:33] <joe7dust> it is pretty sad that I had to google where this is...
[6:33] <joe7dust> I know more about middle eastern and EU geography than canadian for some reason
[6:34] <joe7dust> they really ought to be teaching kids about their hat, ya know?
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[7:12] <joe7dust> hi berg
[7:12] <Berg> hello
[7:12] <Berg> is that you there?
[7:13] <joe7dust> who else?
[7:13] <Berg> dont know
[7:13] <joe7dust> lol
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[7:15] <joe7dust> I'm still trying to find a display for my rpi0 project :(
[7:15] <Berg> my npi keeps booting me PC off the net when i try and download
[7:15] <joe7dust> https://www.adafruit.com/products/1770 was recommended to me, but another guy said that won't fit in the upper shell of a gameboy advance SP
[7:15] <CoJaBo> i still need to find a bunch of stuff
[7:15] <Berg> why do you need a special disply lots cheap ones out there too do the job
[7:16] <joe7dust> im creating an emulator within a gba sp shell
[7:16] <Berg> sure
[7:16] <joe7dust> rpi0 and need a 2.8-3inch display
[7:16] <Berg> look on ebay
[7:16] <Berg> i always find addafruit is also named costalot
[7:18] <joe7dust> I'm not even considering price at the moment just trying to find a model that will fit and is compatible
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[7:19] <Berg> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-8-TFT-LCD-Module-Touch-Screen-Display-Monitor-For-Raspberry-Pi-B-PI2-/221973127154?hash=item33aea11ff2:g:nRsAAOSw1S9WdcLm
[7:19] <joe7dust> you realize I need one that will fit in the top half of this right? http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/nintendo/images/4/4e/Game_Boy_Advance_SP_Red_Model.png/revision/latest?cb=20121130172706&path-prefix=en
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[7:20] <joe7dust> also needs to be in north america. the one you linked looks to be too thick and in china
[7:20] <Berg> umm
[7:20] <Berg> ever hear of waiting for it to come in the post?
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[7:21] <Berg> free delivery
[7:21] <joe7dust> all the other parts will arrive in less than a week plus I tend to feel safer with USA sellers
[7:21] <Chillum> I guess you can find some US seller that ordered it from China for you
[7:21] <Berg> so your stuck in USA see amazon
[7:22] <joe7dust> what were the search terms that you used to find that one ?
[7:22] <Berg> raspberry pi 2.8-3inch display
[7:22] <joe7dust> i tried raspberry pi zero 2.9 inch display and first thing listed was a 7 inch
[7:23] <Japa> Can I get a 1-inch display with a pi-zero? :D
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[7:23] <Berg> no clue search and see
[7:23] <joe7dust> maybe, I know there isa 1.5inh
[7:23] <Berg> try thinking for self
[7:23] <joe7dust> "raspberry pi 2.8-3inch display" acctually turned up zero results
[7:24] <Berg> spending all day asking other folks for things you can do is realy strange
[7:24] <Japa> The curse of a nerd: I can't look at my 1-year-old's toy phone without wondering if I can make it into a real phone.
[7:24] <Chillum> searching for a range like 2.8-3 won't work well in a text based search
[7:24] <Berg> he asked what i did
[7:24] <Berg> thats what i did
[7:25] <Berg> seem to have worked
[7:26] <joe7dust> doesn't look like there are any 2.9 or 3 inch, but there are some for 2.8.. hopefully the gap isn't too bad
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[7:27] <Japa> I have one of these, and a very strong urge to try to make it actually work: http://www.babypregnancycare.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Fisher-Price-Learning-Phone.jpg
[7:27] <Chillum> gsm modules are not that much
[7:27] <Chillum> hhe
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[7:33] <linuxmint> k, installed blueooth and checked service is running, but 2 line errors sap driver and sap-server. Hopefully not a problem
[7:33] <linuxmint> ?
[7:36] <linuxmint> hmm...hcitool scan doesn't find anything. Not the mouse or the phone?
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[7:46] <Berg> how to force pi to use a webcam mic capture?
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[8:04] <linuxmint> hmm, installed blueutils, rebooted and now RaPi3 boots into a black screen/
[8:04] <linuxmint> ?
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[8:08] <linuxmint> hmm, looks like I might need to reinstall :(
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[9:10] <Berg> pyaudio is evil in pi3
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[10:16] <niston> you can generalize that to: audio is evil on linux
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[10:18] <Drzacek> niston, ^ true
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[10:20] <Berg> thats true
[10:20] <Berg> alsa brutalizing pulseaudio
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[10:23] <niston> fuck cocaine. I'm snorting pure caffeine.
[10:23] <niston> ah wrong chan :P
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[10:24] <joe7dust> is there any way to disable or hide all the leave/join spam ?
[10:24] <niston> depends on the client I guess
[10:24] <niston> most will offer such option
[10:24] <niston> mIRC does
[10:24] <joe7dust> usually use webchat or kiwi for simplicity
[10:25] <Berg> chatzilla no clue i dont wona see it anyway
[10:29] <joe7dust> welp i have posts up on reddit, adafruit, and raspberrypi.org ... hopefully i will get an answer on which display will work on my rpi0 project there since no one here could
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[10:41] <joe7dust> hi
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[10:41] <joe7dust> NedScott_ you really there?
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[11:19] <Berg> I find it hard that you have no already found the display you wona use joe7dust
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[11:21] <Lonefish> stick al geprobeerd?
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[11:22] <joe7dust> yea it sucks
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[11:26] <tommy``> hi
[11:26] <jackcom> raspberry can connect phone screen and phone keyboard with bluetooth?
[11:26] <tommy``> guys how i can detect a device connected through usb with usb-serial cable?
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[11:30] <jackcom> All dead?
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[11:58] <RaTTuS|BIG> Pi3 has bluetooth
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[11:59] <RaTTuS|BIG> Pi0 or model A can be seen via USB
[11:59] <tommy``> i've pi2 i've resolved
[11:59] <tommy``> with /dev/tttyusb0
[11:59] <Habbie> tommy``, it should also show up in dmesg
[12:00] <tommy``> yeah done ;)
[12:00] <tommy``> thanks
[12:00] <tommy``> i had this: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port
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[12:01] <Habbie> uhuh
[12:02] <tommy``> you know it? :D
[12:05] <Habbie> i'm pretty sure i have one or two pl2303s in a box behind me :)
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[12:08] <tommy``> what's pl2303?
[12:08] <tommy``> chips?
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[12:12] <Armand> tommy``: Looks like it's a USB <> Serial bridge.
[12:12] <tommy``> yes
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[12:19] <Habbie> it is
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[12:21] <jackcom> i can connect raspberry pi with phone directly instead of ssh so i can see screen and use phone keyboard with bluetooth?
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[12:28] <Lartza> jackcom, VNC?
[12:28] <jackcom> yes
[12:28] <jackcom> instead of ssh
[12:29] <jackcom> Lartza:
[12:29] <jackcom> instead of ssh and VNC
[12:29] <Lartza> What's wrong with VNC?
[12:29] <Lartza> Oh bluetooth
[12:29] <jackcom> because i will use it at the outside
[12:29] <jackcom> so i can’t know wifi password
[12:29] <jackcom> Lartza:
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[12:30] <Lartza> You can create a bluetooth network I think but that's not something I am familiar with at all
[12:30] <jackcom> understand?
[12:30] <Lartza> Kind of
[12:30] <jackcom> me too
[12:30] <Lartza> VNC would work with 3G/4G too though?
[12:31] <Lartza> Unless the rpi isn't at home
[12:31] <jackcom> yeah
[12:31] <jackcom> i want to use it at outside
[12:31] <Lartza> I am not sure how wifi prevents that
[12:32] <Lartza> You just connect to you home IP with your phone, and port forward VNC in your router
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[12:33] <jackcom> :(
[12:33] <jackcom> i don’t understand it
[12:33] <jackcom> http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5-320-480-Touch-screen-LCD-Display-Board-with-Case-for-Raspberry-Pi-3-/182119831499?hash=item2a673017cb:g:fi0AAOSwLs5XKubp
[12:33] <jackcom> it is good?
[12:33] <Lartza> ebay LCD's are hit and miss
[12:34] <jackcom> hit and miss?
[12:34] <jackcom> what you mean?
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[12:34] <Lartza> To get them work, correct drivers etc
[12:35] <Lartza> That seems to require a custom driver to be installed, checking
[12:35] <jackcom> oh
[12:35] <jackcom> installing driver is difficult?
[12:36] <Lartza> Depends on the screen really
[12:36] <jackcom> upper scren is not good?
[12:37] <Lartza> The driver download keeps stopping for me :/
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[12:38] <jackcom> yeah
[12:41] <ManDay> Hello, we'd like to set up a RTP streaming server for the "Raspberry Camera" on a Raspberry Pi 3. However, I don't have any experience with the RP and I don't know where the camera is exported and in which format (I assume its not v4l2). Could anyone help?
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[13:18] <tommy``> http://hastebin.com/oluluyuxub.hs
[13:18] <tommy``> guys what's wrong here? I cannot get static ip
[13:20] <Habbie> how is it failing?
[13:20] <Habbie> did you reboot?
[13:21] <tommy``> yes if i reboot i get again 192.168.1.100
[13:21] <Habbie> you may need to disable dhclient or dhcpcd
[13:22] <Habbie> i recall something like that
[13:22] <tommy``> it is i think: iface eth0 inet static
[13:22] <Habbie> no you need to disable it externally
[13:22] <Habbie> http://www.techsneeze.com/configuring-static-ip-raspberry-pi-running-raspbian/
[13:22] <Habbie> see 'UPDATE :'
[13:22] <tommy``> ok
[13:23] <Habbie> it shows two methods
[13:23] <Habbie> either dsiable dhcpcd, or override in dhcpcd.conf
[13:23] <Habbie> either way works
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[13:24] <tommy``> lets try :P
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[13:27] <tommy``> awesome, now my pi2 have no ip
[13:27] <tommy``> damn
[13:28] <fluffet> it's dhcpcd you need to change
[13:28] <fluffet> i have static ip on my pi
[13:28] <tommy``> i've disabled
[13:28] <tommy``> with that link
[13:28] <tommy``> now i got connection refused
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[13:29] <fluffet> oh :p
[13:29] <fluffet> well dont disable it then :D
[13:30] <tommy``> eh
[13:30] <tommy``> =_=
[13:30] <tommy``> i can't anymore connect through it dude
[13:30] <pwillard> Just create a mac based permanent IP reservation on your DHCP server
[13:31] <tommy``> i've to fix this before
[13:32] <fluffet> yeah configuring network stuff over ssh isn't the best idea :p
[13:33] <fluffet> config roulette
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[13:34] <pwillard> ^^
[13:34] <Jusii> sleep 300 ; cp /root/backup/oldconfig /etc ; reboot &
[13:35] <Jusii> forgot ( )
[13:35] <Jusii> but you get the idea
[13:37] <tommy``> it's strange because with jesse full i didn't have this problem
[13:37] <tommy``> now with jesse lite version yes
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[13:40] <Jusii> haven't followed your problem very closely but you dont have 'auto eth0' in there
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[13:43] <tommy``> yes
[13:43] <tommy``> because i've static
[13:44] <Jusii> no it means if you want eth0 to come up automatically
[13:44] <Jusii> auto eth0 doesn't mean dhcp
[13:45] <tommy``> maybe i deleted for mistake?
[13:45] <Jusii> so there should be:
[13:45] <Jusii> auto eth0
[13:45] <Jusii> iface eth0 inet static
[13:45] <Jusii> and so on
[13:46] <tommy``> ill try
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[13:47] <tommy``> nope same result
[13:47] <pwillard> right... auto does not mean use DHCP
[13:49] <Habbie> indeed you do need auto
[13:49] <tommy``> im reading this
[13:49] <tommy``> http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Assign-A-Static-IP-to-The-Raspberry-Pi/?ALLSTEPS
[13:51] <mfa298> the easiest approach is likely find an up to date howto and just edit the dhcpcd.conf file for the static ip
[13:51] <mfa298> or set it via the router
[13:51] <pwillard> do you have access to your home router?
[13:51] <tommy``> yses
[13:51] <pwillard> that is the simplest by far
[13:51] <pwillard> Your router is also your DHCP server, I assume
[13:52] <tommy``> yes
[13:52] <tommy``> is set as dhcp server
[13:52] <tommy``> enable, disable, dhcp relay
[13:52] <tommy``> starting ip address 192.168.1.100
[13:52] <mfa298> reservations in the dhcp router save having to edit files on the Pi, and means the pi will also do dhcp if it get's plugged into another network
[13:53] <fluffet> http://puu.sh/piI2l/4201b0f835.png just add the bottom part of that cfg file, it's my config
[13:53] <pwillard> so... you run ifconfig on rpi... capture the MAC address on eth0
[13:53] <fluffet> works as intended with my router as dhcp server
[13:53] <pwillard> and reserve an IP for that mac
[13:53] <fluffet> didn't do any config there
[13:53] <pwillard> on your router
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[13:58] <tommy``> fluffet: worked editing dhcpcd.conf
[13:58] <tommy``> now it's ok
[13:58] <fluffet> sweet ^^
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[13:58] <tommy``> but i'have to change interfaces too? or unchanged?
[13:58] <fluffet> i dont think you do
[13:58] <tommy``> ok
[13:58] <fluffet> not if you have default jessie config i think
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[13:58] <fluffet> but if it works it works ^^
[13:59] <tommy``> seems so
[13:59] <fluffet> with a working static ip, let me recommend you pi-hole
[13:59] <fluffet> works wonders ^^
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[14:00] <mfa298> with default jessie config you just edit dhcpcd.conf (there should be a comment at the top of network/interfaces saying that you only edit dhcpdc.conf)
[14:00] <tommy``> pi-hole?
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[14:00] <tommy``> https://pi-hole.net/ ?
[14:00] <fluffet> it's a DNS server for your network that blocks all ads
[14:00] <fluffet> yes
[14:01] <fluffet> works great if you have devices that don't run adblock by default, like an ipad or whatever
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[14:02] <fluffet> just watch out because it'll turn your localhost:80/admin stats page public
[14:02] <fluffet> so if you run a webserver on port 80 the dashboard will be public unless you add a .htaccess ^^
[14:03] <tommy``> ah ok thanks
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[14:05] <yene> wahts a piii hole?
[14:05] <mfa298> 12:00 < tommy``> https://pi-hole.net/ ?
[14:05] <mfa298> 12:00 < fluffet> it's a DNS server for your network that blocks all ads
[14:05] <mfa298> yene: ^^
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[14:06] <fluffet> "all adds" might be a little exaggeration
[14:06] <fluffet> but a lot of ads ;)
[14:06] <stormpp> Guys can you help me out I connect an Energy Meter to USB to RS485 adapter. Do need to install some kind of driver ? If Yes where do I get it ? HELP PLS :)
[14:06] <tommy``> anyone compiled oscam on pi2?
[14:08] <fluffet> ls
[14:08] <mfa298> stormpp: that may well depend on your energy meter. No doubt you'll need some sort of software at least to talk to it
[14:09] <stormpp> SDM120C I used any ideas what software it uses ?
[14:09] <stormpp> mfa298, ^
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[14:11] <mfa298> stormpp: I have no idea, it's not a deivce I have or use. Google may well be your best friend here
[14:13] <stormpp> I tried but there is no such info :)
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[14:28] <yene> just blocking a few dns kills 90% adds
[14:29] <yene> or just be crazy like me and block all external javascript libraries
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[14:32] <Berg> block everything named java even libs to install
[14:32] <SpeedEvil> coffee?
[14:32] <yene> mate pls
[14:32] <Berg> yes coffee
[14:32] <Viper168_> caffeine is a dangerous and addictive drug
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[14:33] <Berg> mate?
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[14:33] <fluffet> ha
[14:33] <Viper168> snort cocoa instead
[14:33] <Viper168> snocolate
[14:33] <SpeedEvil> Viper168: citation needed
[14:33] <Viper168> much healthier
[14:33] <pwillard> Blocking javascript sounds like it would make using the web pretty annoying
[14:33] <fluffet> uh
[14:33] <SpeedEvil> Coffee has a number of positive effects
[14:33] <Bilby> eh, it's no worse than a lot of moderate stimulants. It's just everywhere :)
[14:33] <Berg> the web is pretty anoying with all the java content
[14:33] <yene> just blocking third party javascript, form external sites
[14:34] <Viper168> cocoa will actually get you high that way, but depends on if you really want to snort cocoa or not
[14:34] <fluffet> some people even say coffee might be one of the most important "inventions" because academics used to meet at coffee houses and discuss ideas
[14:34] <Viper168> is going around in clubs in europe a lot
[14:34] <mfa298> Berg: java content ? are you browsing in the late 90's
[14:34] <Berg> i was
[14:34] <Bilby> yene: wouldn't that break every website that uses google's jquery?
[14:34] <Viper168> fluffet, can you say they'd not have met elsewhere though?
[14:34] <yene> is that bad tho
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[14:34] <Bilby> > snorting cocoa
[14:34] <fluffet> Viper168: i'm not sure :)
[14:35] <Bilby> my nasal cavities weep ;__;
[14:35] <fluffet> but i thought it was very interesting anyway
[14:35] <Viper168> or was it solely addiction that brought them together
[14:35] <Viper168> it's actually not that harsh on your sinuses either
[14:35] <Berg> lets try deleteing java from every lib in linux
[14:35] <fluffet> coffee is the best
[14:35] <Berg> i think thats a good idea
[14:35] <Viper168> and everything will smell like chocolate
[14:35] <Viper168> picking your nose will be a scratch and sniff adventure
[14:35] <yene> I need java because my tax software
[14:36] <Berg> if you chew cocoa beans you get cocinated
[14:36] <Viper168> you can mix up a bunch of raw cocoa with water and chug it for effects apparently
[14:36] <Bilby> I have two pieces of software that need (local) java - the ancient controller for my PBX and the annoying controller for my production print manager
[14:36] <Berg> I have coffee plants inm my garden they took my cocane trees away
[14:36] <Bilby> well, and gIMP i guess
[14:36] <Viper168> has theobromine which is similar but more easy going than caffeine, but also a plenty of other active chemicals
[14:37] <Berg> paint stripper?
[14:37] <Viper168> seems like a cleaner form of stimulation
[14:37] <Viper168> without tendency to make you feel sick as much
[14:37] <fluffet> coffee doesn't make you feel sick :D
[14:37] <Viper168> but is less intense
[14:37] <fluffet> it makes you feel productive
[14:37] <Berg> ok i need a way to test the sound level of my usb mic input in python any ideas?
[14:38] <Viper168> it can if you get too much
[14:38] <yene> the only drugs i need is the frustration of hacking on linux and raspberry and then crying myself to sleep when it doesnt work
[14:38] <Viper168> it will screw up your stomach
[14:38] <fluffet> i dont know
[14:38] <Viper168> digestive system
[14:38] <fluffet> post-coffee poop is standard
[14:38] <jackcom> i can connect hdmi to android phone?
[14:38] <fluffet> but other than that, no symptoms for me at least
[14:39] <Berg> this is one strange channel hours of just the sound of crickets then this explosion oif chatter
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[14:39] <fluffet> and if you let a small rodent taste a bit of my coffee it'd probably die instantly :D
[14:39] <Berg> so how can i do it?
[14:39] <Berg> well?
[14:39] <fluffet> Berg: i have no idea, maybe capture sound and then play it back and know that way
[14:40] <Berg> and pyaudio is a buggy lib
[14:40] <Berg> i can tell by listening but i need the python script to know too
[14:40] <Berg> hence the problem
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[14:42] <fluffet> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25868428/pyaudio-how-to-check-volume
[14:42] <fluffet> first result on google seems to answer your question pretty good :p
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[14:44] <Berg> and dont work
[14:44] <Berg> i just said pyaudio is buggy
[14:44] <Berg> it keeps saying my rate is invalid
[14:44] <jackcom> i can connect hdmi to android phone?
[14:45] <mfa298> Berg: first step would probably be getting the data into python, then I'd guess you need some processing of the raw data (maybe along the lines of fft).
[14:45] <Habbie> jackcom, if you don't get a response, do not just repeat your question; first make the question better
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[14:46] <Berg> the first part getting the data in my pi3 is the issue
[14:46] <Berg> arecord works
[14:46] <Berg> sound works
[14:46] <Berg> aply works
[14:46] <jackcom> :(
[14:46] <Berg> but pyaudio code is crapping out thats the only examples i can find
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[14:50] <jackcom> Habbie: ?
[14:50] <jackcom> you don’t know it?
[14:50] <Habbie> jackcom, your question is too vague. ask a better question.
[14:50] <mfa298> jackcom: maybe tell us what you're trying to acheive
[14:51] <jackcom> i have no monitor, so i want to connect android phone with hdmi cable for screen. is it possible? mfa298 and Habbie
[14:51] <Habbie> jackcom, you want to use a phone as an hdmi monitor for your pi?
[14:52] <mfa298> jackcom: unlikely to be possible, the Pi is HDMI out, Phones if they have a HDMI socket are also likely to be HTMI out
[14:52] <jackcom> yes Habbie correct
[14:53] <jackcom> mfa298: :(#@#!#8#!#F#$1(*^*((#!@
[14:53] <Habbie> what mfa298 said then
[14:53] <Habbie> however
[14:53] <Habbie> hey
[14:53] <Habbie> watch the language
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[14:54] <jackcom> Habbie: possible?
[14:54] <Habbie> i am done
[14:54] <jackcom> what you mean?
[14:55] <jackcom> you did it?
[14:55] <Habbie> no, this conversation is over
[14:57] <jackcom> if i don’t have screen, then i can’t use rasberry pi?
[14:57] <Habbie> you can ssh to it
[14:57] <DrJ> jackcom, you can use ssh for terminal/command line access
[14:58] <DrJ> if you are going to use a pi as a server or such then there is really no need to have a display
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[14:58] <jackcom> but how i can connect to internet if i log in with screen first time?
[14:58] <DrJ> you can also set up vnc and remote into it if you must have a graphical display
[14:58] <jackcom> but how i can connect to internet unless i log in with screen first time?
[14:59] <DrJ> it will get a dhcp addy by default
[14:59] <DrJ> throug the wired connection
[14:59] <DrJ> you just look at your dhcp server (likely your router) to see what IP it got
[14:59] <fluffet> yeah isn't it possible just to plug it in, check ip in router and then ssh with user pi and password raspberry
[14:59] <fluffet> ?
[14:59] <DrJ> or you scan your network to find it
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[15:00] <jackcom> then how raspberry know wifi password?
[15:00] <fluffet> need to use cable for it to work im afraid
[15:00] <DrJ> you have to configure wifi yourself
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[15:00] <DrJ> so you must start by network cable unless you have a display
[15:01] <jackcom> oh
[15:01] <jackcom> network cable
[15:01] <jackcom> great
[15:01] <jackcom> i got it thanks
[15:01] <jackcom> DrJ:
[15:01] <DrJ> yes?
[15:02] <jackcom> i understand it
[15:02] <jackcom> with network cable if i don’t hav display
[15:02] <DrJ> yep
[15:02] <rxp> whats the best desktop os for raspberry pi 2? ive got ubuntu mate on mine now, but it seems a bit sluggish. had kali linux on it before, which ran better, but had other issues.
[15:02] <jackcom> if i buy raspberry, then there is a os on raspberry pi?
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[15:03] <jackcom> DrJ:
[15:03] <DrJ> jackcom, no
[15:03] <DrJ> unless you buy a kit that comes with a sd card you will have to go buy your own sd card
[15:03] <jackcom> there is no raspberry pi os?
[15:03] <DrJ> and then flash/burn a free raspberrypi os onto it
[15:03] <DrJ> there are free ones
[15:03] <DrJ> but it does not ship with one
[15:04] <DrJ> doesn't even come with a sd card
[15:04] <rxp> this is the best SD card: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B013CP5HCK/
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[15:04] <DrJ> unless you buy a kit, then it might come with a sd card with a preloaded os
[15:04] <jackcom> DrJ: there is no storage? then?
[15:05] <DrJ> if you buy just the board, then no
[15:05] <jackcom> storage is SD card only?
[15:05] <Habbie> jackcom, yes
[15:05] <jackcom> there is no internal storage?
[15:05] <DrJ> os must be on sd
[15:05] <Habbie> jackcom, storage is USB or SD; to start an OS
[15:05] <Habbie> jackcom, storage is USB or SD; to start an OS, you need SD
[15:05] <DrJ> you can add USB storage as well, but it can only boot from SD
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[15:05] <Habbie> jackcom, but can you please try communicating more clearly? you are coming across as very lazy
[15:05] <Bilby> That's not a bad deal for a 32gig card if it's legit
[15:06] <jackcom> oh
[15:06] <jackcom> thanks :)
[15:06] <DrJ> but you are correct jackcom, there is no onboard storage
[15:06] <DrJ> just an empty slot for a sd card
[15:06] <jackcom> oh
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[15:07] <jackcom> if i don’t have display and there is no network cable, then it is useless one.
[15:07] <DrJ> raspberrypi's are only $35 but you pretty much have to buy a case, sd card, and a power supply
[15:07] <jackcom> if i don’t have display or there is no network cable, then it is useless one.
[15:07] <DrJ> so it really takes about $50 to get running
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[15:08] <jackcom> http://www.ebay.com/itm/162051576983?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[15:08] <jackcom> $41.9
[15:08] <Bilby> If you don't have things you can reuse, the starter kits are a very good deal since they often come with all the parts (plus some useless extras haha)
[15:08] <jackcom> it is not $35
[15:08] <DrJ> you wont find the pi 3 for $35 in many places yet
[15:08] <DrJ> because of supply/demand
[15:08] <Bilby> jackcom, what country / area are you in?
[15:08] <jackcom> Bilby: why?
[15:08] <DrJ> but that is their base price
[15:09] <Bilby> find you a local supplier with best price
[15:09] <jackcom> $35 is base
[15:09] <Drzacek> I got mine for 44 EUR with shipping to germany (pi3b)
[15:09] <jackcom> why they sell it with $41.9?
[15:09] <DrJ> they are taking advantage of the supply/demand to make more money
[15:09] <Bilby> DrJ: it really depends on where you are, i think. There are around 30 of them at a store that's 10 minutes from me.
[15:09] <mfa298> jackcom: possibly as that's not an official seller
[15:10] <jackcom> yeah then raspberry pi is popular now?
[15:10] <Armand> O_o
[15:10] <DrJ> well the 3 just came out a few months ago
[15:10] <Armand> "now"
[15:10] <Armand> Just...... WUT?
[15:10] <Drzacek> :D
[15:10] <DrJ> people want it, and there isn't enough for everyone yet... but it's getting better
[15:10] <jackcom> ok
[15:10] <DrJ> was about $60 everywhere a month ago
[15:11] <DrJ> unless you were lucky and found it at an official supplier
[15:11] * Bilby feels lucky he apparently dodged that availability issue
[15:11] <Bilby> the zero's were thin on the ground but the 3s came out with a much bigger push
[15:11] <mfa298> jackcom: maybe go read some of the documentation and FAQs https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/ that's likely to answer a lot of your very basic questions
[15:12] <DrJ> poor me Bilby, I went out and bought 2 new rasp 2 models
[15:12] <DrJ> then like 1-2 weeks later
[15:12] <jackcom> i can connect raspberry pi with wire cable, but i can set wifi that is over 3km from my house.
[15:12] <DrJ> they announced the 3
[15:12] <Bilby> d'oh!
[15:12] <Drzacek> Bilby, because the big ones (2 and 3) are being made commercialy, and pi zero is being made in UK by the fundation itself
[15:12] <jackcom> mfa298: thanks
[15:12] <Drzacek> Thepihut has rpi3 almost all the time
[15:12] <jackcom> i can connect raspberry pi with wire cable int the house, but i can set wifi that is over 3km from my house.
[15:12] <Bilby> Drzacek: iirc it was also because they stopped production of the zero or cut it sharply so they could give factory space to the upcoming 3
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[15:12] <jackcom> in the house
[15:12] <jackcom> DrJ:
[15:12] <Bilby> which also gave them a chance to revise the zero to add the camera connector
[15:12] <DrJ> jackcom, wifi is not going to work over 3km
[15:13] <pwillard> jackcom: what is your point about 3km?
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[15:13] <Drzacek> Bilby, the factory that made pi zero has nothing to do with rpi3 I believe (I might be wrong)
[15:13] <jackcom> DrJ: i want go to there after setting wifi password.
[15:13] <Drzacek> Doesnt farnell make rpi3?
[15:13] <pwillard> wifi is much shorter distance than 3km
[15:13] <jackcom> DrJ: it is possible?
[15:13] <DrJ> oh, you should just be able to preconfigure the ssid and authentication
[15:14] <jackcom> yes DrJ
[15:14] <DrJ> however, you wont know for sure if it worked or not until you get there
[15:14] <jackcom> correct
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[15:14] <Drzacek> so you want to prepare your device to connect with wifi network you don't have access now, so you can connect to it without cable?
[15:14] <jackcom> then i will be back to home
[15:14] <Bilby> Drzacek: ah, you're right. the zero is being produced in-house
[15:14] <Bilby> https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-zero-production-getting-on-track/
[15:14] <DrJ> you can also take a laptop and just hook a network cable directly from the pi to your laptop
[15:14] <jackcom> Drzacek: correct :)
[15:15] <Drzacek> Bilby, such a great feeling to be right sometimes :D
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[15:15] <Bilby> lol, hush
[15:15] <jackcom> because i can’t connect raspberry pi with cable outside home.
[15:15] <Drzacek> jackcom, why?
[15:15] <Bilby> I remember seeing something about the Pi 3 slowing the zero's production. maybe they paused it to give over the in-house production too. blarg
[15:15] <jackcom> i will hide it for getting information.
[15:15] <Bilby> they stopped for ~some~ reason, that's why they had time to add the camera connector
[15:16] <pwillard> Microcenter brick and mortar stores have plenty of zero's... but only in a bundle pack with cables, adapters and power supply for $24
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[15:16] <jackcom> Drzacek:
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[15:16] <pwillard> (which you need anyway... so not bad)
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[15:17] <SyncYourDogmas> jackcom: you can call wpa_supplicant -B -dd -Dnl80211 -i wlan0 -c<(wpa_passphrase ssid passphrase)
[15:17] <SyncYourDogmas> put that in rc.local or similar
[15:17] <Drzacek> pwillard, if someone want to buy pizero, he (or she) has to wait. And since the waiting is imminent (is this how I write it?), you can order all needed from china for a fraction of that price
[15:17] <SyncYourDogmas> then dhclient wlan0
[15:18] <jackcom> you can call wpa_supplicant -B -dd -Dnl80211 -i wlan0 -c<(wpa_passphrase ssid passphrase) <— what is it? SyncYourDogmas
[15:18] <jackcom> you should just be able to preconfigure the ssid and authentication <— this is possible? DrJ
[15:19] <jackcom> in my house?
[15:19] <pwillard> how would we know? We don't even know if you have Wifi in your house
[15:19] <rxp> what does everyone here prefer? Raspbian or Ubuntu-MATE?
[15:19] <SyncYourDogmas> jackcom: a command to connect to the wifi
[15:20] <jackcom> i have wifi and lan in my house
[15:20] <jackcom> oh SyncYourDogmas thanks :)
[15:21] <Bilby> rxp I've always used raspibian or a variant. It's what 75%+ of demos and tutorials use and it has all the features I want
[15:21] <Drzacek> rxp, I dislike all *buntu distros
[15:21] <Chunkyz> ubuntu mate is slow as f on the pi 2/3
[15:22] <Chunkyz> I use raspbian lite
[15:22] * Bilby moved away from Ubuntu generally after they changed to that wierd GUI
[15:22] <rxp> so far ive tried Kali Linux and Ubuntu-MATE on my pi2...Kali seemed to run faster than Ubuntu-MATE, but it was a pain getting wireless working to my liking. Ubuntu has been straight forward for wireless, but its kinda sluggish. Havent tried Raspbian yet
[15:22] <SyncYourDogmas> jackcom: and dhclient wlan0 to actually get an ip address...
[15:23] <Chunkyz> rxp, stay away from arch too.
[15:23] <pwillard> I have liked ubuntu a lot less with the new crap gui... but I still use it everyday.
[15:23] <SyncYourDogmas> raspian but I removed lxde and put awesome on
[15:23] <Drzacek> Bilby, I also think that GNOME is weird GUI :D
[15:23] <jackcom> thanks :)
[15:23] <Chunkyz> SyncYourDogmas, should've used lite lol that's exactly what I use
[15:24] <SyncYourDogmas> Chunkyz: why stay away from arch? I was thinking of installing it
[15:24] <Bilby> haha
[15:24] <Chunkyz> arch sucks
[15:24] <Bilby> i can get used to GNOME, but Unity had me totally lost
[15:24] <Chunkyz> go on irc and they tell you to check the wiki, a 100th time again :/
[15:25] <Bilby> and i've been running xwin since RedHat 7 and live between OSX and Windows all day, so I'm pretty flexible with GUIs in general
[15:25] <Chunkyz> miniban or jessie lite is the fatest
[15:25] <SyncYourDogmas> lol the wiki is good though
[15:25] <pwillard> I use Unity... but it drives me nuts... where is FILE menu options... oh... way the hell at the top of the screen... not in my app window... duh.
[15:25] <Bilby> Chunkyz minibian FTW. It's my go-to production base
[15:25] <Bilby> so... so tiny
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[15:26] <SyncYourDogmas> pwillard: install a different Desktop enviroment. easy as sudo apt-get install lxde
[15:26] <Chunkyz> I'm waiting for an update of miniban Bilby :p
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[15:27] <pwillard> Yeah... My preferred install is actuall LXDE via Lubuntu... but I decided to bite the bullet and try 16.04. It's working enough i don't really want to mess with it... but... the temptation to go back to old ways is strong
[15:28] <jackcom> kali on raspberry pi vs kali on android phone, which is better choice?
[15:28] <Chunkyz> pi jackcom
[15:28] <jackcom> oh
[15:28] <Chunkyz> pwillard, 16.04 is great, if you're not using unity :p
[15:28] <jackcom> can i give me explanation? Chunkyz
[15:29] <Chunkyz> you can, if you want. lol
[15:29] <pwillard> and just like Ubuntu... RPI raspian full seems to go too far as well... now that I can't even use 4G sd cards (I have a pile) and I really do not want LibreOffice on a my pi. So I have a choice... install lite... and install everything... install full and remove a crap-ton of stuff i don't want. Almost the same amount of work either way.
[15:30] <yene> i was smart, i put my sd card on post it s so they dont get lost
[15:30] <pwillard> well, I may actually install an alternate GUI soon. I had some weird copy/paste bug happen recently and it has me thinking... just do it.
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[15:31] <yene> on the weekend they redid the cabling in the office, now they are gone
[15:31] <SyncYourDogmas> you just choose which one when you login, its simple in ubuntu raspian etc
[15:31] <pwillard> I have a Brother PC2340 and make TINY labels for the SD cards
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[15:32] <pwillard> yene... someone tossed out your postit?
[15:32] <yene> i am not a smart man
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[15:33] <pwillard> ouch
[15:34] <Chunkyz> lmfao
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[15:35] <pwillard> I actually lost count of how many RPI I have... and I have at least 3 SD cards per device... so I needed a "system" of labels to keep track. My SD cards are numbered and the number is documented as to which OS and Apps are installed.
[15:36] <yene> try postits ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[15:36] <Chillum> pwillard: I have 17 pi 2s.
[15:37] <Chillum> I was using them to play around with clustered software
[15:37] <Chillum> well, 16 of them, the other one was for tv
[15:37] <pwillard> It's like lego's... collect to make more stuff.
[15:38] <yene> can i have some?
[15:38] <pwillard> I was actually waiting for Jackcom to say that
[15:38] <Armand> lolz
[15:39] <SyncYourDogmas> I use my two for networking stufff...need a third one though
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[15:41] <yene> anyone doing home automation with raspberry?
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[15:42] <Drzacek> yene, automation like profibus/profinet, PLC and stuff?
[15:42] <jackcom> when i installed kali on pi, then what is password?
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[15:42] <yene> sure whatever buzzword turns the light on and off
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[15:45] <Armand> jackcom: 3 second Google
[15:45] <Drzacek> yene, industrial automation or home automation? :P
[15:45] <jackcom> ok Armand
[15:45] <Armand> I'll give you a hint... "kali default password"
[15:45] <jackcom> you are #android guy? Armand ?
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[15:45] <Armand> The one and only.
[15:45] <jackcom> oh
[15:46] <jackcom> default root password: “toor“, without the quotes.
[15:46] <Armand> Congrats
[15:46] <jackcom> god of thunder is toor
[15:46] <Armand> *Thor
[15:46] <jackcom> Thor
[15:46] <jackcom> :(
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[15:46] <Armand> Huuurrr
[15:46] <jackcom> thanks Armand
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[15:52] <SyncYourDogmas> kali must be slow on a pi...you're better off installing the programs you want imo
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[15:55] <Armand> If requirement == Kali, then use an ODroid.
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[15:55] <Chunkyz> odroid suck, Armand. :p
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[15:56] <Armand> Chunkyz: Noob remarks are none of my concern.
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[15:56] <Chunkyz> haha
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[15:59] <yene> i added ibeacon support to my rbpi 3, so that when he detects me he says "welcome home" #foreveralone
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[16:01] <Chunkyz> lmao
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[16:02] <waveform> yene, not "home again, home again, jiggety jig"?
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[16:02] <waveform> if that reference is lost on most people, I'm going to feel old...
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[16:02] <yene> yes you are
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[16:02] <Ivoah> waveform: it's lost on me :P
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[16:03] <waveform> it should be followed by "good evening, JF"
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[16:04] <yene> after iron man every home automation project is called jarvis
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[16:05] <yene> (mine too)
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[16:06] <waveform> ah, the memes of yester-year have indeed moved on (I can remember when almost every server was called "jeeves" - not that far off I suppose)
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[16:08] <yene> they had servers in 1988?
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[16:10] <jackcom> if i installed kali on pi, then memory is not enough?
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[16:11] <SyncYourDogmas> first server was the first multitasking OS, 60s maybe?
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[16:11] <Drzacek> Would never call my home control unit Jarvis, too mainstream #hipsterlife
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[16:13] <Tenkawa> hi all
[16:13] <captainpicard> hello
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[16:13] <jackcom> Drzacek: ?
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[16:16] <jackcom> if i installed kali on pi, then memory is not enough?
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[16:16] <Tenkawa> which pi model?
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[16:17] <Tenkawa> pi 3 should have plenty I would think
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[16:17] <Tenkawa> dont quote me though
[16:17] <jackcom> pi 3
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[16:17] <jackcom> techkid6:
[16:17] <jackcom> Tenkawa:
[16:17] <Tenkawa> 1 gb should be enough i think
[16:17] <jackcom> enought?
[16:17] <jackcom> enough?
[16:17] <jackcom> :(
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[16:18] <Tenkawa> eh?
[16:18] <jackcom> normal computer memory is 4G
[16:18] <Tenkawa> so?
[16:18] <Tenkawa> that doesnt mean it all is used
[16:18] <jackcom> 1G is too small?
[16:18] <Tenkawa> it all depends on what the process needs
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[16:18] <Tenkawa> unfortunately i dont know enough about kali to say
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[16:19] <jackcom> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=539tMqFHdck <——— why it is too slow?
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[16:19] <jackcom> :(
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[16:19] <Tenkawa> the better question is what do you want to accomplish and then determine the best tool for the job
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[16:20] <jackcom> i can’t do game with pi3?
[16:20] <sertac> hello i am checking my pins with zero, should i normally measure voltage on spi related pins
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[16:20] <Tenkawa> jackcom: noone said that.
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[16:20] <jackcom> what you mean? Tenkawa ?
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[16:21] <Tenkawa> jackcom: I'm saying that you should evaluate the requirements of what you are trying to do and it might or might not work
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[16:21] <Tenkawa> I dont have the info to tell you
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[16:22] <jackcom> yeah
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[16:22] <jackcom> thanks :)
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[16:23] <Tenkawa> cheers all.. gotta run
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[16:29] <Berg> night asll
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[16:36] <captainpicard> is raspberry pi 3 much improvement over 2 in cpu performance?
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[16:37] <Chillum> an incremental improvement at best
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[16:39] <Bilby> captainpicard: it's slightly better; hypothetically it can gain more from ARMv8 improvements but it won't be a huge jump like Pi 1 to Pi 2 was
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[16:43] <CoJaBo> Its a huge improvement in "not having to find a seperate wifi dongle" at least
[16:44] <Chillum> I guess. Not sure why they put the integrated wifi on the model with 4 usb ports and an ethernet jack. The pi zero could use it a lot more I think
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[16:46] <Bilby> I think it would take a lot more engineering to shoehorn wifi onto the zero, but I know what you mean
[16:46] <Bilby> IoT things kinda need some communication haha
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[16:47] <Chillum> I am making a tiny battery powered thermal printer with a pi zero and wifi
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[16:47] <Chillum> they idea is to have a handheld device that can print whatever is pushed to it remotely
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[16:48] <CoJaBo> The goal for the zero is minimal cost
[16:48] <CoJaBo> So it wouldn't make sense for that one to have wifi :/
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[16:49] <CoJaBo> I want to see one with a "minimal size" goal; wifi and maybe a minimal set of gpio pads
[16:50] * GenteelBen sniffs CoJaBo
[16:50] <GenteelBen> Smells like bergamot.
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[16:50] <CoJaBo> why do you keeps melling me bro
[16:50] <captainpicard> damn, GenteelBen infected this channel, too
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[16:52] <Bilby> lol
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[17:02] <datareaver> hello
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[17:02] <datareaver> somebody have an issue with raspberry pi 3 and built in wifi with the last version of raspbian or archlinux ?
[17:03] <datareaver> after a shutdown -h now wlan 0 disappear from ip link
[17:03] <datareaver> after a cold boot
[17:03] <datareaver> do you know how to fix this please ?
[17:03] <CoJaBo> ?
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[17:05] <datareaver> CoJaBo, hey
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[17:07] <datareaver> wlan0 interface is gone after shutdown -h now and a cold boot
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[17:07] <datareaver> if somebody can help please ?
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[17:10] <CoJaBo> datareaver: probably a firmware bug, report it?
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[17:14] <datareaver> CoJaBo, how I can report it ? they are no trace of wlan0 in dmesg
[17:16] <GenteelBen> captainpicard: is CoJaBo your Vash?
[17:17] <SyncYourDogmas> datareaver: ifconfig wlan0 up?
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[17:19] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, ifconfig don't show interface wlan0 that is the issue
[17:20] <CoJaBo> vash?
[17:21] <datareaver> ifconfig -a show only eth0 and lo
[17:21] <SyncYourDogmas> datareaver: Its happenedto me before where ifconfig -a didnt show it, ifconfig wlan0 up worked though.but nothing in dmesg is strange
[17:22] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, ifconfig wlan0 up
[17:22] <datareaver> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[17:22] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas,and it's more strange because after a reboot it's working but after a shutdown -h now and a cold it's not working
[17:23] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, cold boot*
[17:24] <SyncYourDogmas> datareaver: does it get rrecognised as a usb device at all in dmesg?
[17:24] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, the built-in wlan0 is recognised as usb device ? it's a raspberry pi 3 model b
[17:26] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, it's not a usb wifi dongle, it's the built-in wifi of the rpi 3
[17:27] <SyncYourDogmas> datareaver: ah right. that is strange. recognized as a pci device then? lspci too perhaps?
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[17:27] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, nothing in lspci lshwd
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[17:28] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, indeed it's really strange because sometimes it's working sometimes not, after 5 or 6 boot wlan appear but after a shutdown or a reboot it's disappear again
[17:29] <SyncYourDogmas> cat dmesg | grep -A5 -B5 -i device
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[17:29] <SyncYourDogmas> or pci actually
[17:29] <boat> :]
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[17:31] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, https://justpaste.it/v0fj
[17:32] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, i pasted the result
[17:32] <SyncYourDogmas> sometimes kernel recognises device but ignores it because of acpi or firmwre etc
[17:32] <SyncYourDogmas> cheers Ill take a look
[17:33] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, thanks a million for your help :)
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[17:36] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, I tried a lot of things but nothing works ( rpi-update, changed firmware, other distribution etc, it's same with jessie and archlinux)
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[17:38] <SyncYourDogmas> datareaver: does the rpi 3 use usb internally...eth0 looks like is usb
[17:38] <Habbie> eth0 is usb, yes
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[17:41] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, eth0 is working well
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[17:42] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, I am using it for ssh connection.
[17:43] <SyncYourDogmas> that is odd, this might be it
[17:43] <SyncYourDogmas> [ 3.720652] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0424, idProduct=9514
[17:43] <SyncYourDogmas> [ 3.733277] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
[17:45] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, what do you mean ? usb make a mess with the devices wlan0 and eth0 ?
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[17:46] <SyncYourDogmas> datareaver: I mean it might be seen by kernel but not mounted because of firmware issues..whats lsusb -v like?
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[17:48] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, https://justpaste.it/v0g5
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[17:50] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, I used the default firmware of the last raspian jessie mini
[17:50] <datareaver> RASPBIAN JESSIE LITE
[17:50] <datareaver> oops sorry for upper case
[17:52] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, and I had the same issue with archlinux
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[17:55] <SyncYourDogmas> so its not firmware..might have just broken
[17:56] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, you think it's a hardware problem ?
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[17:57] <SyncYourDogmas> sounds like it unfortunately
[17:58] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, ok thank you for your help :)
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[17:58] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, I think they are a guarantee ?
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[18:00] <SyncYourDogmas> datareaver: yeah it will be. /proc should list it actually if its there
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[18:03] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, /proc/whichone ?
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[18:07] <SyncYourDogmas> datareaver: sys/net perhaps?
[18:08] <SyncYourDogmas> or /proc/devices
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[18:11] <Oiu> Hello, I cant get lirc to work on my raspi 3. I am using TSOP2236 receiver connected to 3.3V and pin 18. When I do mode2 -d /dev/lirc0 and mash buttons on all remotes I have it does not reveive antything. Using raspbian but tried openelec too. Anyone knows what can be wrong?
[18:11] <datareaver> SyncYourDogmas, I think i will return the product and buy a new one :) thanks a lot for the help
[18:12] <SyncYourDogmas> datareaver: /proc/ioports too. but sounds like a good idea
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[18:15] <stray77> https://learn.adafruit.com/using-an-ir-remote-with-a-raspberry-pi-media-center/hardware
[18:15] <stray77> check that, make sure your gpio are connect like that
[18:16] <datareaver> have a good day :)
[18:16] <datareaver> bye bye
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[18:18] <stray77> To be able to test the IR receiver without XBMC, you need to make sure that the IR remote feature is turned off, or you will not be able to use LIRC from the SSH. So run the Rasbmc Settings program and make sure that the option Enable GPIO TSOP IR Receiver is disabled.
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[18:20] <Oiu> stray77: yes it is connected like that but ofcourse my receiver has different order. I am now trying to get it working in raspbian
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[18:30] <stray77> https://learn.adafruit.com/assets/5912
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[18:45] <quasar_71> i need help with using adxl345 with raspberry pi to recognise gestures
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[18:56] <stevie86> Hi! If i execute a script that needs to access a mounted usb drive will that result in an error if it is not found?
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[19:02] <SyncYourDogmas> yeah if it tries to read it
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[19:05] <pwillard> Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together...
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[19:09] <Armand> pwillard: Sounds like a fun weekend.
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[19:09] <ThreeGen> Hey guys, a RPi 3 can output to the HDMI and an 8" touch screen at the same time, correct?
[19:09] <ThreeGen> Just making sure.
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[19:17] <Zardoz> hellos
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[19:20] <rxp> Zardoz
[19:20] <rxp> the best movie Sean Connery ever made
[19:20] <rxp> Creature!
[19:20] <Oiu> I cant get lirc to receive signals on raspbian, anyone can help?
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[19:21] <stevie86> Ok, but where will it log that?
[19:21] <stevie86> how can I catch that?
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[19:32] <curlyears> gratings and salivations
[19:33] <rxp> yep
[19:34] <curlyears> quiet
[19:34] <rxp> anyone ever use one of those Intel NUCs? wonder how it compares to the pi
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[19:36] <SyncYourDogmas> stevie86: mount the usb first, or wrap it in another script that catches the failure etc. fdisk -l will show you mounted drives
[19:37] <roadHockeyKing> rxp: there all different modules of nuc. you can get some pretty powerful hardware in the top end of them
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[19:41] <Zardoz> rxp: I am on one now.
[19:43] <Zardoz> I have a first gen celerity :) with 4GB mem and 32GB msata.
[19:43] <curlyears> NUCs ain't cheap. The least expensive model I saw on Amazon was $128
[19:45] <Zardoz> curlyears: no, not so cheap.
[19:45] <Zardoz> but it is small
[19:45] <roadHockeyKing> anyone try that androidTV image yet?
[19:45] <curlyears> some of them are in the range of $900, either way, it is insane to try to compare them to a Pi3 at $47 (though the Pi3 might actually outperform many of the NUC models
[19:46] <curlyears> not compared to a Pi3 it isn't "small"
[19:47] <curlyears> androidTV?
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[19:48] <Zardoz> roadHockeyKing: I seen it on you tube does that count?
[19:48] <TooLmaN> How can I make a dd image of my SD card without the excessive free space in the image?
[19:48] <TooLmaN> I thought there was an option you could pass to dd
[19:49] <roadHockeyKing> i saw the youtube as well. was going to try it out tonight. was just wondering if it actually worked like it was shown
[19:50] <Zardoz> roadHockeyKing: yeah not sure., if I did not have a google ATV ready...
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[19:50] <roadHockeyKing> curlyears: geek till it hertz put out what might be a usuable image of androidTV for pi3
[19:51] <Zardoz> it should work. A google android TV is not that much in specs.
[19:51] <Zardoz> the google/asus one.
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[19:52] <roadHockeyKing> hopefully, i will get to check it out tonight
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[19:55] <Zardoz> roadHockeyKing: look at this specs pf this thing. https://www.asus.com/us/Home-Entertainment/Nexus_Player/specifications/
[19:56] <rxp> Microcenter has a nice 6th gen i3 NUC for $269
[19:56] <curlyears> what *IS* androidTV?
[19:58] <Zardoz> basically a couch potato version of android.
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[19:58] <roadHockeyKing> Zardoz, i always thought the problem with Android was that the GPU in the Pi was closed source so no one knew how to implement graphic exceleration correctly. not so much that the Pi3 wasnt powerful enough
[19:59] <roadHockeyKing> but thats my 100'000 feet view.
[19:59] <Zardoz> roadHockeyKing: aye it is.
[19:59] <roadHockeyKing> so, is androidTV different than regular android here?
[19:59] <Zardoz> but thats about to possible change for android.
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[20:00] <Oiu_> Is it possible that even tho lirc says "auto-detected active low receiver on GPIO pin 18" my ir receiver is broken? Or does it mean it has to work?
[20:01] <Zardoz> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/05/google-to-bring-official-android-support-to-the-raspberry-pi-3/
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[20:05] <roadHockeyKing> Zardoz: thats cool. but i thought this androidTV image was made without google's help. isnt androidTV just android with a different front end?
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[20:07] <Zardoz> roadHockeyKing: from my understanding yes.
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[20:08] <roadHockeyKing> i can't wait to mess around with it
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[20:39] <Oiu_> Is it possible that even tho lirc says "auto-detected active low receiver on GPIO pin 18" my ir receiver is broken? Or does it mean it has to work?
[20:39] <SyncYourDogmas> could be firmware issue
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[20:40] <Oiu_> well im struggling to get lirc working for 5 hours now, cant even read signals with mode2
[20:42] <Oiu_> thought it might be broken, I found another ir led but dont know the pin order
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[20:49] <SyncYourDogmas> check lspci -v
[20:49] <pwillard> IR leds have like 2 pins
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[20:50] <pwillard> you can test if it works with your phone cam
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[20:53] <Oiu_> pwillard: its ir receiver so 3 pins
[20:53] <pwillard> then is not an LED! Geez
[20:53] <Oiu_> oh right...
[20:54] <pwillard> <facepalm>
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[20:56] <WardL> Am having problems setting my locale.
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[20:57] <WardL> LC_ALL keeps getting unset after a reboot.
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[20:57] <WardL> I am pretty much having this problem, and applied the accepted solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162391/how-do-i-fix-my-locale-issue
[20:57] <WardL> it works until I reboot
[20:58] <Zardoz> you have a keyboard bligged in to the pi?
[20:58] <Zardoz> pluged in that is
[20:58] <WardL> yes.
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[21:00] <WardL> Just to be clear, I am using SSH, but there is a keyboard plugged in to the pi as well.
[21:02] <Zardoz> ok...
[21:02] <Zardoz> does this pi have a gui?
[21:03] <WardL> If I type startx, yes. It's a default NOOBS raspbian install
[21:03] <WardL> fresh out of the box.
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[21:03] <Zardoz> eek noobs
[21:03] <WardL> ^
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[21:04] <Zardoz> try it in the gui, for reals
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[21:05] <WardL> brb, will run upstairs to try it
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[21:06] <Zardoz> the gui/console config seems kind of buggie right now.
[21:07] <eyemiru> Hi guys, I have two Panasonic wifi streaming audio speaker and I want my pi2 to connect to them through wifi to stream spotify, any idea how?
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[21:08] <Zardoz> how do you connect to the normally?
[21:08] <curlyears> *whew* shipping charges at TigerDirect.c om have becopme unmanageable. I am buying a $49 PSU, and they're chargnig me $16 shipping and handling. *sheesh*
[21:08] <eyemiru> via smartphone app
[21:08] <Zardoz> sounds like you need some kind of app
[21:08] <eyemiru> Panasonic Stream App
[21:08] <eyemiru> for Android
[21:08] <Zardoz> yeah... you are going to need some kind of app for that
[21:09] <Zardoz> whats the sparker model
[21:09] <curlyears> eyemiru: what O/S are you runniing on your Pi2?
[21:09] <eyemiru> Raspbian
[21:09] <eyemiru> Panasonic all Serie all3
[21:09] <Oiu_> how bad can i fuck up the raspi if I plug ir receiver pins in wrong order?
[21:09] <Zardoz> modle number plseaae
[21:09] <eyemiru> SC-ALL3
[21:10] <curlyears> Oiu_: LANGUAGE. This is a family friendly channel, thanks.
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[21:11] <Oiu_> sorry
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[21:11] <curlyears> As long as nothing in the IR receiver is outputt any mmore than a Pi GPIO can take, the only "problem" you should have is it won't wiork if not plugged in correctl;y
[21:12] <curlyears> ss/outputt/outputting/
[21:13] <curlyears> I believe Pi GPIO is rated at 3.3V, but are 5V compliant
[21:13] <curlyears> some correct me if I am wrong, please
[21:13] <Oiu_> oh so then it wont break if I put gnd on gpio?
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[21:15] <Zardoz> eyemiru: looks like it uses Qualcomm AllPlay, looking around
[21:15] <eyemiru> Zardoz: thanks!
[21:15] <mfa298> putting 5v into the gpio pins can break them so don't do that
[21:15] <mfa298> as long as the IR detector is only connected to a 3v3 supply pin on the pi you should be fine
[21:17] <Oiu_> mfa298: yup it will be on 3.3, so ill try, if it breaks its on you guys
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[21:17] <Oiu_> /jk
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[21:20] <Zardoz> eyemiru: looks like mostly for android and ios, allplay is a competer to apple airplay.
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[21:20] <eyemiru> https://gist.github.com/germanviscuso/30cfa7dfb041c12e6ba3
[21:20] <Oiu_> well, the board seems fine but the receiver was getting very hot
[21:20] <eyemiru> Zardoz: What about this?
[21:20] <Zardoz> you would need to look for an app that would support allplay under Deb/rasp
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[21:21] <mfa298> Oiu_: that might suggest it's wired up wrong or is bad
[21:22] <Oiu_> mfa298: wired wrong for sure, I dont know what is the pin order for this receiver
[21:23] <mfa298> if you know it's part number google for a data sheet
[21:24] <Oiu_> nope dont know its part number, I took it from ir helicopter toy
[21:24] <Zardoz> eyemiru: not sure???
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[21:27] <curlyears> Oiu_: no, grrounding a GPIO pin shouldn't harm it, but as mfa298 stated, do NOT feed any of tyhose pins 5VDC
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[21:29] <curlyears> yeah, if the receiver chip became noticeabluy hot, you almost certainly have a bad receiver chip[
[21:29] <Oiu_> omg it works! so either my old one need 5v or its broken.
[21:29] <Oiu_> curlyears: i swapped gnd and 3.3v and it works
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[21:30] <Oiu_> I only spent 6 hours on this...
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[21:32] <WardL> argh
[21:32] <WardL> So, I managed to convince my raspi that I have an US/intl keyboard
[21:33] <WardL> but everytime it boots, it forgets that compose keys are on
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[21:41] <curlyears> Oiu_: MahzelTov!
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[21:44] <GRiZL0C> question: is there an alternative media player i can use in raspbian or is installing kodi or running omxplayer the only options?
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[21:45] <GRiZL0C> i cant find anything useful on google
[21:46] <GRiZL0C> i have a usb hdd on the rpi 3 just want to watch videos from it with a media player other then omxplayer
[21:46] <mfa298> you can run other media players, but I think omxplayer is the only one optimised for the Pi. (kodi might just be using omxplayer or might be optimised as well)
[21:47] <curlyears> what is your issuie with omxplayer?
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[21:48] <GRiZL0C> it doesnt work with keyboard command like when i press "space" normally it should pause
[21:48] <GRiZL0C> or when i press "p" it should pause too
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[21:49] <curlyears> GRiZL0C: uhm, maybe a compile time option opr an installation option that wasn't chosen?
[21:51] <curlyears> personally, I strongly prefer and recommend that all progs running on my system are copmpiled at installation, *ON* my system. That way, I can be somewhat confident that the binary I am running truly represents the sources I have
[21:51] <GRiZL0C> ok thanks let me search deeper on this issue
[21:52] <curlyears> I mean applications, of course. I haven't the time to compile my entire O/S
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[22:01] <tommy``> guys, exists some case for pi2 to contains more than 1 board?
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[22:03] <mfa298> you'll need to be careful if you're trying to use more than one board on a Pi. You need to ensure they're not trying to use the gpio pins
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[22:04] <tommy``> mfa298 i show you wait
[22:05] <tommy``> https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13336086_10209641143694777_131023911262695570_n.jpg?oh=6a1e2b7796e644fa33b7269d02372c96&oe=5807DFAE
[22:05] <tommy``> i've this situation and i want put on same case
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[22:07] <mfa298> I suspect you'll need to get/make some custom case,
[22:07] <Ascavasaion> tommy``: And trying something like https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0b/ec/4f/0bec4f5eeabd52fc014f214996172864.jpg
[22:07] <Ascavasaion> mfa298: I agree.
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[22:08] <tommy``> yep Ascavasaion, is this custom
[22:08] <tommy``> ?
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[22:11] <Ascavasaion> tommy``: I know nothing about Pi, but from what I have seen custom boxes are easy to build. Unless you you are a perfectionist... but a workable solution looks easy to slap together.
[22:11] <tommy``> yes, could you show me some other link like that?
[22:12] <mfa298> tommy``: google image search
[22:12] <tommy``> i dunno which key words use
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[22:13] <mfa298> try some see what you get and adjust as necessary
[22:13] <mfa298> your guess for search terms is probably as good as anyone elses
[22:14] <tommy``> https://all3dp.com/custom-raspberry-pi-case-3d-print/ <---- why?
[22:14] <Ascavasaion> https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3915/14585952288_20d01baed1_c.jpg
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[22:15] <Ascavasaion> https://webrpi.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/raspberrypiservercluster.jpg
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[22:15] <Ascavasaion> tommy``: I googled for "raspberry pi dual case" and "raspberry pi cluster"
[22:15] <tommy``> ah cluster!!! ok
[22:16] <Ascavasaion> tommy``: https://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/pi_pictures_files/raspberry%20pi%20supercomputer%206.jpg
[22:16] <Ascavasaion> Okay, enough links now eheheh Good luck :)
[22:16] <tommy``> tnx mate
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[22:25] <thunderface> Hey guys I think my pi is malfunctioning. It was working on the screen I had, but when I tried connecting it to the TV via hdmi, it didn't work. Now it's not working no matter what I do. The leds don't blink and I have 2 separate SD cards which I've reformatted and put a recovery image on twice each
[22:25] <thunderface> I'm at a loss
[22:25] <Habbie> no leds even without SD?
[22:25] <Habbie> and no image on your screen without SD?
[22:25] <thunderface> Lms
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[22:26] <thunderface> Even without sd, they stay steady, no blinking
[22:26] <Habbie> oh they go on?
[22:26] <thunderface> No sd no change
[22:26] <thunderface> Yeah
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[22:27] <Habbie> look up what the leds you have mean
[22:27] <Habbie> but something definitely sounds wrong
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[22:29] <thunderface> One says act and the other pwr
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[22:29] <thunderface> So power and not sure
[22:30] <thunderface> The act should be blinking but it doesnt
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[22:31] <CoJaBo> Someone fry a pi?
[22:31] <thunderface> I think I did
[22:31] <thunderface> Fuck me
[22:31] <ball> I suppose that's one of the advantages of a really affordable computer. If you /do/ happen to let the magic smoke out, it's not the end of the worm.
[22:31] <ball> world*
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[22:32] <thunderface> Yeah. I just really don't want to have to rewrite the 15000 words I had gotten so far on the novel
[22:32] <Habbie> they might still be on the SD
[22:33] <thunderface> Hopefully. How would I recover them
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[22:33] <mfa298> thunderface: keep an eye on the language, it's a family friendly channel and the Ops tend to not like swearing.
[22:34] <Habbie> thunderface, you can mount them on any linux system
[22:34] <thunderface> Word. I'll keep it in mind
[22:34] <Habbie> thunderface, or stick them into your next pi
[22:34] <CoJaBo> IT'S THE END OF THE WORM!
[22:34] <thunderface> I conquered the worm once.
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[22:35] <thunderface> After I dug some ditches and burned some witches
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[22:38] <thunderface> I have no other Linux systems to try to recover these SD cards.
[22:38] <nebadon> virtual machine?
[22:39] <thunderface> What's that
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[22:39] <nebadon> https://www.virtualbox.org/
[22:40] <nebadon> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox
[22:40] <thunderface> Togoogle!
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[22:42] <roadHockeyKing> thunderface, before trying anything new you may want to make a backup image of that sd card.
[22:42] <thunderface> Ha ha ha. I've already formatted it 3 times.
[22:43] <thunderface> This is just to see if there's anything salvageable
[22:44] <mfa298> chances are if you've formatted it 3 times andthing that was on it has gone for good
[22:44] <roadHockeyKing> maybe, if you only formatted the boot partition. if thats the case you will definitly need to mount in a linux environment
[22:45] <thunderface> OK so I have the Jessie .deb file downloaded for VirtualBox, how the hell do I open it
[22:45] <xamindar> why would you format a card that had anything you needed on it?
[22:45] <thunderface> I am not a smart man.
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[22:47] <roadHockeyKing> when you formatted what size did it say your sd card was? you maybe lucky and only formatted the boot partition
[22:47] <mfa298> did you just format, or have you tried putting an OS image on it as well ?
[22:47] <thunderface> 30ish gigs. Last few times I had to format for one reason or another, the files were still in home/media/pi/
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[22:48] <thunderface> I've put noobs on them both
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[22:48] <roadHockeyKing> if you reimaged your sd cards its definitly gone
[22:49] <thunderface> Poop
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[22:49] <roadHockeyKing> so, you had a sd card then used dd or win32imager on it again? is that correct?
[22:50] <thunderface> Yeah win32
[22:50] <ball> I should order myself one of those VESA Pi mounts.
[22:50] <thunderface> 2 SD cards
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[22:50] <roadHockeyKing> anything on the cards before using win32 is gone
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[22:51] <mfa298> one lesson to learn from this is to backup any important data on any computer system.
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[22:52] <mfa298> and if it's particularly important keep a copy away from the home
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[22:52] <ball> 3-2-1 rule: three backups, at least two different media and one off-site.
[22:53] <thunderface> OK so does anyone have experience with VirtualBox
[22:53] <ball> thunderface: I have that on my work laptop.
[22:53] <ball> I used to use vmware player.
[22:53] <ball> They're both surprisingly good.
[22:53] <thunderface> OK I have it installed, how do I put an os on it
[22:53] <roadHockeyKing> when i was a dba, we had a rule. if there isnt 3 copies it doesnt exist
[22:54] <ball> thunderface: That would a question for another channel, probably.
[22:54] <mfa298> the other important thing with backups is to test you can use them. If you can't restore it the backups isn't a backup
[22:54] <thunderface> Ok
[22:54] <ball> thunderface: Essentially you mount an ISO image of an installation disc and proceed as though it were a physical machine.
[22:55] <ball> mfa298: That's an excellent point. An untested backup is worse than no backup at all
[22:55] <ball> mfa298: ...because it lulls you into a false sense of security.
[22:55] <roadHockeyKing> true! as a dba my biggest fear was not being able to restore. that procedure was tested often
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