#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2016-06-07

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[0:06] <Hitechcg>
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[0:10] <Berg> a lone dove flys off into the sunset
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[0:11] <Berg> ok my pi follows voice commands but i need a loudness detector for activate record and stop record
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[0:26] <jancoow> Hi there; I've got a ds18b20 and a ds18s20 on the same w1 bus but the ds18s20 is only giving 85000 back
[0:26] <jancoow> and that's a error
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[0:26] <jancoow> i've had it before.. But i really can't remember how to fix it; Something with pullup resistor on the raspberry pi itself
[0:26] <jancoow> does someone have had a similur isue?
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[0:33] <Ascavasaion> jancoow: http://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/solved-ds18b20-always-giving-850000 I see it is re DS18B20... but maybe it helps.
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[0:34] <jancoow> Ascavasaion: i'm using the kernel w1 driver
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[0:35] <jancoow> 4.7k pullup resistor is outside (+-20 meter wire) and the other sensor is on a +-5 meter wire
[0:35] <jancoow> but the pullup should hold the whole line high right?
[0:36] <Ascavasaion> I have no idea.. I just did a Google of what you gave, and it seems that 85000 means that it is not supported by kernel. I am clueless re pi.
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[0:38] <jancoow> yeah :( I run a test some years back with mixed 18S20 and 18B20, then it worked though
[0:38] <jancoow> i know i had the exactly same issue but can't remember te solution
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[0:40] <Ascavasaion> jancoow: Sorry.
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[0:42] <jancoow> np thanks for helping
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[0:44] <Valduare> Berg: what are you using for voice recognition
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[0:45] <Berg> well im starting with google translate and wit.ai i just installed pocketsphinx but thats a bug fail atm
[0:45] <Berg> Valduare:
[0:46] <Valduare> ah
[0:46] <Berg> google speech recognition not translate
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[0:46] <Berg> wit.ai works butr slow to respond
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[0:46] <Berg> google is faster but still slow
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[0:51] <Valduare> hmm
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[0:57] <jancoow> yeah
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[0:57] <jancoow> i do processing on my server
[0:57] <jancoow> is faster
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[1:00] <Berg> you have google recognition on your server?
[1:00] <Berg> :)
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[1:34] <pyroxide> http://i.imgur.com/Iz0pX7H.jpg <-- my XU4 case, added a fan since, but need better heatsink
[1:35] <joe7dust> ugh I never thought finding a proper display would be so difficult! https://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=97662
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[1:41] <GreeningGalaxy> I know this is one of those Literally Cancer questions, but does over_voltage take decimal values, or only integers?
[1:43] <GreeningGalaxy> if it helps my credibility at all, I'm trying to go under voltage, not over. my friend beat up his regulator a little and I'm trying to game the configuration to see if I can keep the core temperature from climbing out of control
[1:44] <GreeningGalaxy> so far I've found that -9 is almost there, but -10 is too low and it gives it a kernel panic.
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[1:57] <GreeningGalaxy> anyway, on a scale of one to 'call the fire department,' how would you react to a Pi 3 idling at ~70-75°C?
[1:58] <Valduare> GreeningGalaxy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au256t7TUoI here’s my vid on raspberry pi 3 passive cooling
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[2:08] <GreeningGalaxy> hmmm. there might be some old computers with heatsinks around here...
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[2:08] <GreeningGalaxy> although ideally I would like to waste less power, so it would be cool if undervolting worked.
[2:10] <Valduare> they specifically recomend 5.25v psu for pi 3 dont they though
[2:11] <GreeningGalaxy> it appears that decimal over_voltage doesn't do anything. I tried -9.9999999 etc and it still booted up, so either that difference of one undecillionth of a millivolt was critical, or it's just ignoring after the decimal point. occam's razor...
[2:11] <GreeningGalaxy> uh, not sure about that
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[2:16] <GreeningGalaxy> heh, this will be the perfect thing to make with our CNC mill, once we get it up and running. And controlled by a Raspberry Pi. almost a catch-22 there, barely escaped that one.
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[2:22] <Valduare> are you doing realtime kernel on the pi?
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[2:23] <MCP23008> Hello
[2:24] <Berg> HI
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[2:24] <MCP23008> How can I use the MCP23008 IO Expander with Python and Raspberry Pi?
[2:24] <Berg> Valduare: did you do voice activation?
[2:24] <MCP23008> Hey Berg :), could you help me out?
[2:25] <Berg> like sound level record
[2:25] <Berg> i dont know MCP23008
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[2:25] <MCP23008> Berg: Aw, thanks alright
[2:25] <Berg> I never used a MCP23008
[2:25] <Berg> some one here might help be patient
[2:26] <MCP23008> Berg: What about a MCP23017?
[2:26] <Berg> :)
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[2:26] <Berg> same thing
[2:27] <Valduare> Berg: nope
[2:27] <Berg> kk
[2:27] <MCP23008> Berg: Alright, thanks :) Hopefully I find someone on here who knows how to use the MCP23008 IO Expander with Python and Raspberry Pi
[2:27] <Berg> i got loudness working but my python needs fine tuning to get it to record
[2:27] <MCP23008> ?
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[2:28] <Berg> i had a dog nbamed expander i shot and ate it
[2:28] <Berg> named
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[2:28] <Berg> :)
[2:28] <MCP23008> lol :)
[2:33] <MCP23008> I have connected the MCP23008, I just need to know how to program it with python
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[2:34] <GreeningGalaxy> does that use the SPI interface, or is that something totally different
[2:34] <Chillum> MCP23008: are you using the SPI or the i2c?
[2:34] <GreeningGalaxy> (I just spent a month or two using an MCP3008)
[2:35] <Chillum> this guy is using a similar chip: http://raspberrypi-aa.github.io/session3/spi.html
[2:35] <Chillum> same one GreeningGalaxy used it seems
[2:36] <Chillum> it has code examples using spidev
[2:37] <MCP23008> Chillum: The i2c: https://learn.adafruit.com/mcp230xx-gpio-expander-on-the-raspberry-pi
[2:37] <MCP23008> GreeningGalaxy: Hey, what did you use it with? Raspberry Pi 2? I am trying to use it to get 2 additional GPIO for 2 tact switches
[2:40] <MCP23008> Chillum: I am following that tutorial, but I can't find the code that they are trying to link to
[2:41] <GreeningGalaxy> I used a pi 3, with spidev in python
[2:41] <Chillum> never used i2c on the pi
[2:41] <Chillum> but I imagine tehre is a library for it
[2:41] <MCP23008> GreeningGalaxy: Oh nice
[2:41] <GreeningGalaxy> you should be able to install spidev with pip if you don't already have it, and then usage is easy to google
[2:41] <methuzla> MCP23008, try here: https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Python_MCP3008
[2:42] <GreeningGalaxy> do you already know how to talk to it?
[2:42] <MCP23008> Chillum: The tutorial links to a github, but someone reorganized the github
[2:42] <MCP23008> methuzla: I don't know how you did it but you found the Repo. Thanks!
[2:43] <MCP23008> GreeningGalaxy: No, so far I only know how to wire it
[2:43] <GreeningGalaxy> ah
[2:43] <methuzla> MCP23008, there's a table on the old repo that links to new repos
[2:44] <methuzla> MCP23008, they just recently did some house cleaning
[2:44] <MCP23008> methuzla: Cool, thanks hopefully I can figure out how to use it
[2:44] <methuzla> MCP23008, what i linked may not be the right repo though, so check the table
[2:45] <MCP23008> methuzla: Can I get a link to the page with these old repos?
[2:45] <methuzla> MCP23008, it's the link from the tutorial
[2:45] <GreeningGalaxy> basically, you send the chip configuration bits and it sends you data bits. the datasheet explains the details.
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[2:46] <GreeningGalaxy> converting the byte objects in python into numbers is the tricky part.
[2:46] <stormpp> I am trying to install a driver but when I run the commands I am ask for the SU (root) password - I introduce raspberry which is user password for pi, does anyone know what is the DEFAULT SU password or How can I fix that (not to get authentication failure) ?
[2:47] <methuzla> stormpp, run with sudo, root is disabled by default
[2:47] <GreeningGalaxy> there is no default root password, you'll have to set one. but what kind of driver asks for your root password during installation?
[2:47] <Chillum> a sketchy one
[2:47] <GreeningGalaxy> if you're copy-pasting commands from the internet, don't do that.
[2:47] <stormpp> I run with sudo but at the end it pop-up to insert su password...
[2:48] <stormpp> methuzla, ^
[2:48] <Chillum> lol @ sudo perl < curl http://seemsleg.it
[2:48] <stormpp> GreeningGalaxy, I am installing a Wi-Fi dongle
[2:48] <GreeningGalaxy> `curl http://totallyharm.less | sudo bash` is cancer
[2:49] * GreeningGalaxy staaaaares at Adafruit. >_>
[2:49] <GreeningGalaxy> anyway, what are you doing to install it, specifically?
[2:50] <Hitechcg> yes root > /dev/mmcblk0p2
[2:50] <Hitechcg> that is how you get root
[2:52] <stormpp> chmod +x install.sh --- and then --- ./install.sh
[2:52] <stormpp> GreeningGalaxy, ^
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[2:53] <stormpp> Hitechcg, it says permission denied
[2:53] <Hitechcg> stormpp: don't do that
[2:53] <Hitechcg> fuck
[2:54] <methuzla> stormpp, dont do yes
[2:54] <Hitechcg> If that was run as root the point would be to ruin your partition
[2:54] <methuzla> ^^
[2:54] <stormpp> so why the fuck you time then... ? I need a solution for my problem not trolls
[2:55] <stormpp> type&
[2:55] <Hitechcg> stormpp: sudo ./install.sh
[2:55] <Hitechcg> Assuming install.sh is the script you want to run
[2:56] <stormpp> yes it is :)
[2:56] <methuzla> but that was tried
[2:57] <methuzla> still asks for su password?
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[3:03] <MCP23008> Thanks
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[3:04] <MCP23008> Hey methuzla GreeningGalaxy Chillum Berg what do I do with the MCP230xx.py file? How do I link to it?
[3:06] <methuzla> MCP23008, import it and use it
[3:06] <MCP23008> methuzla: How do I import it
[3:08] <methuzla> MCP23008, did you install the library? or just clone the repo? or just copy-paste that one file? or what?
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[3:08] <MCP23008> methuzla: I copy and pasted the file
[3:09] <MCP23008> methuzla: I now have the MCP230xx.py file and my program file.
[3:09] <methuzla> MCP23008, install the library per instructions in repo
[3:11] <MCP23008> methuzla: Oh I see it now, thanks
[3:11] <MCP23008> methuzla: Once that is done I can use just the library?
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[3:12] <methuzla> MCP23008, i would assume so, the sample code in the tutorial seems to be missing the import statement
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[3:16] <MCP23008> methuzla: With the install steps, I don't need to copy the code form the MCP230xx.py file?
[3:17] <methuzla> no
[3:17] <MCP23008> methuzla: Is that a no I don't need to copy the file?
[3:17] <methuzla> yes
[3:17] <MCP23008> English :p
[3:18] <MCP23008> lol, thanks
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[3:18] <methuzla> the 'git' command will essentially download a copy of everthing
[3:18] <MCP23008> Oh great
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[3:23] <MCP23008> methuzla: I just realized that the original link you send me was to MCP3008 not MCP23008 :p
[3:23] <methuzla> indeed
[3:24] <methuzla> that's why i said check the table, sorry didn't see the '2'
[3:25] <MCP23008> methuzla: That's alright man, I didn't either xD
[3:25] <joe7dust> Could someone please help me find a composite 2.8 to 3 inch LCD? I've literally been trying to find one for 2 days now. =\
[3:25] <MCP23008> methuzla: Found this https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit-Raspberry-Pi-Python-Code/tree/legacy/Adafruit_MCP230xx
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[3:27] <methuzla> they stashed the old stuff into a legacy branch.
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[3:29] <MCP23008> joe7dust: NO luck :( I looked though. Sorry :(
[3:30] <joe7dust> well thanks for trying
[3:30] <MCP23008> joe7dust: No problem :)
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[3:30] <MCP23008> methuzla: It's a legacy
[3:30] <MCP23008> The legacy of adafruit
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[3:32] <MCP23008> methuzla: I found the repo, but I has no install instructions: https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit-Raspberry-Pi-Python-Code/tree/legacy/Adafruit_MCP230xx
[3:33] <joe7dust> I guess I will have to use a GPIO compatible display then, not looking forward to 50 solder points... also I can't even find that one but I think they are more common in that size than the composites are
[3:33] <methuzla> MCP23008, why are you trying to use the legacy code?
[3:34] <MCP23008> methuzla: Because it works with the tutorial
[3:36] <methuzla> MCP23008, have you run i2cdetect on the command line to see if the chip is even detected?
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[3:50] <MCP23008> methuzla: I don't have the chip wired
[3:50] <MCP23008> methuzla: Sorry for the last reply
[3:51] <MCP23008> methuzla: *late
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[3:53] <shantaram> hi
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[3:53] <shantaram> i was wondering if sticking a pi zero to a cardboard box can be done with double sided foam tape and if it will damage anything during removal
[3:54] <Valduare> should be fine
[3:55] <shantaram> i only have one pi zero and no way of obtaining another so i dont wanna screw up any trace or components on the base of the boar
[3:55] <shantaram> d
[3:55] <methuzla> cardboard box might receive some damage
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[4:02] <shantaram> ok
[4:02] <shantaram> but pi wont right?
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[4:03] <shantaram> also will retropie supply the game files for quake 3 or do i have to supply them on my own
[4:03] <shantaram> ?
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[4:18] <MCP23008> methuzla: you there?
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[4:27] <explodes> So, i'm using this raspberrypi only for weechat, and the disk space is used 100%
[4:27] <explodes> This is my du output: http://pastebin.com/5DwDLKjx
[4:28] <explodes> directories /var and /usr/share are super full, no idea why
[4:28] <nebadon> its probably /var/logs
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[4:29] <nebadon> how big is your sd card? 2gb?
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[4:29] <explodes> I think it is 2 yea, let me check
[4:29] <nebadon> thats pretty tight
[4:30] <explodes> gonna reboot... hold on
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[4:38] <methuzla> MCP23008, yes?
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[4:52] <MCP23008> methuzla: I can
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[4:53] <MCP23008> methuzla: I can't run i2cdetect since I don't have the chip wired
[4:53] <jrcharney> Anyone know how to get XInput to work with RetroPie?
[4:54] <MCP23008> jrcharney: "XInput is a windows only thing, that wont work on the pi. " https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0ahUKEwjWnp_c9JTNAhWNsh4KHeyoDPoQFggrMAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.raspberrypi.org%2Fforums%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D78%26t%3D27325&usg=AFQjCNEVwZxmVe71a6T0Z4Op4c957q5ctA&sig2=1xq0p9LhlGWUV4qJfYZOSQ
[4:54] <jrcharney> MCP23008: That was 2013. Try harder, MCP23008
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[4:56] <MCP23008> jrcharney: Try harder?
[4:57] <jrcharney> That's an old answer from 2013.
[4:57] <MCP23008> And that was 2012 ;)
[4:57] <jrcharney> I read that before you posted it
[4:58] <MCP23008> You must try harder
[4:59] <Berg> had a dog named try-hard i shot it
[4:59] <Berg> :)
[5:01] <MCP23008> :)
[5:01] <jrcharney> I was working a bit earlier
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[5:08] <methuzla> MCP23008, that'd be a good first step. worry about python library next.
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[5:08] <MCP23008> methuzla: I don't want to mess up my Pi
[5:09] <methuzla> how?
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[5:10] <MCP23008> methuzla: I would rather keep it unwired untill I have everything for my project figured out. That way if the plan changes, I'm not soldering, desoldering, things too early
[5:10] <MCP23008> methuzla: How do I link a file in the same directory with Python?
[5:10] <methuzla> no breadboard?
[5:11] <MCP23008> methuzla: I can't get my Pi on a Breadboard
[5:11] <methuzla> why not?
[5:11] <MCP23008> Mine doesn't have anything to stick it into the board with
[5:12] <methuzla> you don't have jumper cables?
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[5:14] <MCP23008> I only male to male right now. I'm planning out things and software first. Then I can budget my money and such properly
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[5:14] <MCP23008> methuzla: ^^
[5:15] <methuzla> a ribbon cable makes for a cheap gender changer
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[5:19] <MCP23008> methuzla: I'll see if I can pick up some :)
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[5:19] <MCP23008> methuzla: I have the copy and pasted code from the MCP230xx.py file. How can I use it with my program?
[5:20] <methuzla> FYI that these exist: https://www.adafruit.com/products/2028
[5:21] <methuzla> for code. don't. start over. do it right.
[5:22] <methuzla> you were trying to follow this tutorial? https://learn.adafruit.com/mcp230xx-gpio-expander-on-the-raspberry-pi
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[5:22] <MCP23008_> methuzla: Back
[5:23] <methuzla> what's the last you saw?
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[5:24] <MCP23008_> methuzla: I asked how to use the library with my project
[5:25] <methuzla> uhg...
[5:25] <methuzla> FYI that these exist: https://www.adafruit.com/products/2028
[5:25] <methuzla> for code. don't. start over. do it right.
[5:25] <methuzla> you were trying to follow this tutorial? https://learn.adafruit.com/mcp230xx-gpio-expander-on-the-raspberry-pi
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[5:25] <MCP23008_> methuzla: Oh cool, thans
[5:26] <MCP23008_> *thanks
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[5:26] <MCP23008> methuzla: Yes, that tutorial
[5:27] <methuzla> it's old
[5:29] <methuzla> so, follow the link "Pi repository on github" link on "Using the library"
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[5:29] <methuzla> takes you to repo that is essentially empty with message about "What happened..."
[5:30] <methuzla> scroll down to table to find new repo (library) to replace old one
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[5:30] <methuzla> for you, i think it's Adafruit_MCP230xx -> https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Python_GPIO
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[5:31] <methuzla> so follow that link, and use instructions there to install library
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[5:33] <MCP23008> methuzla: I was there, but it seems to be different. I will look at the source code
[5:33] <MCP23008> methuzla: Nevermind, I see the file MCP230xx.py
[5:34] <methuzla> the repo/library has more in it than just MCP23008 stuff
[5:35] <methuzla> that's just the way it is
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[5:48] <MCP23008> methuzla: Great, and I would use "mcp.pullup(0, 1)" for setting GP0 to read it's state?( I want it to be defaultly LOW and HIGH when pressed)
[5:50] <methuzla> you're reading buttons?
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[5:52] <MCP23008> methuzla: Yes
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[5:53] <methuzla> do you understand about pull up/down resistors?
[5:54] <MCP23008> methuzla: Yes, they stabilize it at GND or HIGH. Without it would be "floating ". pullups pull the voltage to 5v in this case
[5:54] <MCP23008> stabilize for a lack of a better term
[5:54] <methuzla> good enough
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[5:55] <MCP23008> :)
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[5:55] <methuzla> that code example in the tutorial is not the best
[5:56] <MCP23008> Ah. That's disappointing
[5:56] <methuzla> it's mostly ok, just could use some clean up
[5:56] <MCP23008> Oh alright
[5:56] <methuzla> for example, there appears to be a specific MCP23008 class in the library
[5:57] <methuzla> so you use that instead of MCP230XX
[5:57] <methuzla> but you can still use the same functions
[5:58] <methuzla> have you installed the library yet?
[5:58] <MCP23008> methuzla: Here's what I have so far: http://pastebin.com/LezGqaah
[5:59] <MCP23008> methuzla: I have the information and stuff on how to install now, yes
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[6:01] <MCP23008> methuzla: Ok, I put in the 08 instead of the X's: http://pastebin.com/VZ3ftHxK
[6:01] <methuzla> is that entire code?
[6:02] <MCP23008> methuzla: Yes
[6:02] <methuzla> have you tried running it yet?
[6:03] <MCP23008> methuzla: No
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[6:05] <Berg> dont you need to import a lib?
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[6:05] <methuzla> probably
[6:05] <MCP23008> Berg: Probal
[6:05] <MCP23008> bly
[6:07] <MCP23008> methuzla Berg : http://pastebin.com/sR56sbza
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[6:08] <methuzla> MCP23008, no...hang on...
[6:08] <Berg> rpi.gpio?
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[6:08] <Berg> its interesting
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[6:09] <MCP23008> Berg: I wasn't sure if they both were required for using the MCP23008
[6:09] <methuzla> MCP23008, more like: http://pastebin.com/Lh0AtRn1
[6:10] <Berg> if its just a breakout board your using pi pins no matter where they are is that correct?
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[6:11] <MCP23008> methuzla: Yeah that looks a lot better! Is there a way to pull the button down so it is defaultly reading LOW?
[6:11] <methuzla> based on what i'm seeing in the source code, no.
[6:11] <methuzla> at least not built in
[6:12] <methuzla> i guess you could set pullup False and add an external pull down
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[6:13] <MCP23008> methuzla: I have a resistor pulling it down to GND. So would I still use mcp.pullup?
[6:13] <MCP23008> I mean, what would I use?
[6:13] <methuzla> your choice
[6:13] <MCP23008> instead of mcp.pullup
[6:13] <methuzla> since it supports pull up, i'd use pull up
[6:14] <MCP23008> methuzla: What would happen when the button is pressed? What would it read if the button is defaultly pulled up?
[6:15] <methuzla> if you have an external pull down resistor, and use config pull up in software, the switch is effectively not even being seen
[6:15] <methuzla> you simply have a voltage divider
[6:16] <MCP23008> How would I know if the button is pressed?
[6:16] <methuzla> you wouldn't
[6:17] <MCP23008> methuzla: Oh I see. So how would I know if I didn't have the pull down resistor?
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[6:18] <methuzla> it would be external to the chip. or, it would be something you actually added.
[6:20] <MCP23008> methuzla: How would I read the input programmtically
[6:21] <methuzla> appears to be the .input() function
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[6:23] <methuzla> do this. in another shell, so you can still irc, start up a python session with root privileges: sudo python
[6:24] <MCP23008> methuzla: Yeah, It does look like the .input() function
[6:24] <MCP23008> methuzla: I don't have the chip wiredup
[6:25] <methuzla> i know
[6:25] <MCP23008> methuzla: I'm on windows 8.1 right now
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[6:27] <methuzla> well, were kind of speculating at this point. get a pi setup with library installed and chip wired via breadboard and check back in then.
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[6:31] <MCP23008> methuzla: Alright, one last thing. Is this good: http://pastebin.com/5HRE8Jrc
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[6:32] <methuzla> no
[6:32] <MCP23008> oh
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[6:34] <bananamistake> does anyone use their pi to run deluge daemon and if so... how slow is it supposed to be?
[6:34] <MCP23008> methuzla: What's wrong with it
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[6:36] <methuzla> wrong import
[6:36] <methuzla> wrong syntax on instantiation
[6:36] <methuzla> python doesn't use ;
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[6:38] <MCP23008> methuzla: Oh I cloned the wrong pastebin. Here's what I have now: http://pastebin.com/Abb1ZFcY
[6:40] <methuzla> better
[6:40] <methuzla> just need to define LOW
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[6:42] <methuzla> or just use the fact that .input() returns boolean
[6:43] <MCP23008> methuzla: http://pastebin.com/nB0ThaQw
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[6:45] <methuzla> or that. lines 4 and 5 are doing nothing though. (unless you plan to add more code)
[6:46] <methuzla> wait. no. you're kind of mixing two different libraries.
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[6:49] <methuzla> http://pastebin.com/Vj5Xjryf
[6:49] <MCP23008> methuzla: 4 and 5 for for the GPIO library. I am mixing
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[6:50] <MCP23008> methuzla: That looks good!
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[6:51] <methuzla> ok. but i'm tired of writing vaporware.
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[6:53] <jrcharney> MCP23008: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gamepad#Xbox_360_controller
[6:54] <jrcharney> BOOM BIATCH! good night!
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[6:55] <tylnesh> Hello... anybody got experience with SPI on their Raspberry Pi 2?
[6:55] <MCP23008> methuzla: I was able to finish writing the code now. Thanks for your help! :D
[6:56] <methuzla> good luck
[6:56] <MCP23008> jrcharney: xD!!!
[6:57] <methuzla> also, beginning of this video has some info on Adafruit's python library housekeeping: https://youtu.be/rRFG32EebNc
[6:57] <MCP23008> jrcharney: Looks like you looked Harder good job :)
[6:57] <tylnesh> Is it normal that when I read /dev/spidev0.0 it says "message too long"?
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[6:58] <MCP23008> methuzla: Thank you, I will check it out :)
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[6:59] <tylnesh> I'm trying to send messages between my Arduino DUE and RPi 2 using 2.4GHz nRF24L01
[7:00] <MCP23008> methuzla: How do I want to connect the button to the MCP23008 since it has an internal pullup resistor?
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[7:01] <methuzla> one pin to chip. one pin to ground.
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[7:02] <MCP23008> methuzla: Would the pullup affect this? Since the wiring pulls it to ground, and the program pulls it to 5v? (I may have a misconception this)
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[7:03] <methuzla> buttons are normally open?
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[7:06] <MCP23008> methuzla: Yes
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[7:08] <MCP23008> methuzla: Alright, I am all set now! Thanks!
[7:08] <MCP23008> :D
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[7:09] <methuzla> well ok.
[7:09] <MCP23008> methuzla: What's wrong
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[7:11] <methuzla> it'll make more sense when you have the hardware to play with
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[7:12] <MCP23008> methuzla: Yeah, I wrote up some code. Once it's time I will hook up the chip and see if everything works and stuff. I just don't have all the hardware together yet and such
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[7:14] <MCP23008> Alright, I should get some sleep. Later everyone!
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[7:25] <joe7dust> are there any US resellers of XJ35T30 ? I think I finally found the perfect display for my project but they are all located in China
[7:26] <joe7dust> Its a 3.5 inch composite that runs off 5V
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[8:09] <stevie86> Hi! I want a script to log the date + time @ the beginning of the process and at the end again. But if I have to use a variable, how can I update the variale @ the end to print the updated date + time?
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[8:09] <Dhs92> Is mksquashfs no longer usable?
[8:09] <Dhs92> On OpenELEC
[8:10] <SyncYourDogmas> stevie86: htop shows that I think
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[8:14] <Dhs92> :I
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[8:19] <stevie86> yes would be
[8:19] <joe7dust> would someone please help me find a US reseller for this LCD?
[8:19] <stevie86> but I would like to log it to a file for logging
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[8:20] <SyncYourDogmas> theres a date command
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[8:28] <hypermist> is it possible to make an audiospectrum with an led strip ?
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[8:28] <TyrHeimdal> Gooood morning! At least from my time zone :)
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[8:29] <hypermist> 6:30p mhere TyrHeimdal :D
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[8:29] <Drzacek> 'mourning
[8:30] <TyrHeimdal> I keep getting these errors, and have to reboot the pi evry so often becouse of it... ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00usb_vendor_request: Error - Vendor Request 0x06 failed for offset 0x101c with error -110
[8:30] <TyrHeimdal> any constructive suggestions?
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[8:30] <stevie86> OK, thanks a lot, i thought I had to put date into a variable...
[8:31] <TyrHeimdal> well, tbh I don't know if that is the couse of the pi crashes, but the kern.log is flooded with these messages, so I'm assuming...
[8:31] <SyncYourDogmas> stevie86: are you doing it in bash?
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[8:33] <jackcom> raspberry pi have builtin wifi, so i don’t need to buy wifi adapter?
[8:34] <TyrHeimdal> jackcom: the pi3 i belive have it built in, yes
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[8:34] <jackcom> how about 2? TyrHeimdal
[8:34] <TyrHeimdal> no such luck :/
[8:34] <hypermist> jackcom, pi2 no wifi built in
[8:34] <hypermist> only ethernet
[8:34] <TyrHeimdal> I belive the wifi adapter i'm using for my pi 2 is the source of my crashes
[8:34] <jackcom> oh 3 have wifi
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[8:35] <Dhs92> What's the superblock for the ext4 partition on OpenELEC?
[8:35] <hypermist> TyrHeimdal, unplug and see ?
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[8:35] <jackcom> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZGTxzmJeSI <— why guy use 2 wifi adapter?
[8:36] <TyrHeimdal> ...yeah i'll have to do that. trouble is it's in a "remote" location
[8:36] <hypermist> because its a portable hacking machine jackcom
[8:36] <jackcom> pi 3 have builtin wifi?
[8:36] <Japa> yes
[8:36] <TyrHeimdal> jackcom: yes
[8:36] <jackcom> then why guy use 2 wifi adapter?
[8:36] <jackcom> :(
[8:37] <TyrHeimdal> jackcom: hypermist just answered that :)
[8:37] <hypermist> jackcom, because portable hacking
[8:37] <hypermist> aka make a fake wifi hotspot
[8:37] <jackcom> i think guy can use only 1 adapter because there is a built in wifi.
[8:37] <hypermist> and get people to connect (:
[8:38] <hypermist> jackcom, thats a raspberry pi 2 model B
[8:38] <hypermist> aka no inbuilt wifi (:
[8:38] <hypermist> raspberry pi3 inbuilt wifi
[8:38] <jackcom> hypermist: raspberry pi 2 model B? it looks like 3 model. :(
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[8:39] <hypermist> let me confirm
[8:39] <hypermist> nope pi2 has same amount as pi3
[8:39] <hypermist> :D
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[8:44] <jackcom> hypermist: anyway that device is pi2?
[8:44] <hypermist> yes
[8:44] <jackcom> thanks
[8:44] <jackcom> :)
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[8:46] <jackcom> there is a device that i can insert into android phone then it make wifi
[8:46] <jackcom> ?
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[8:49] <hypermist> android phones can output a wifihotspot as long as you have mobile data jackcom
[8:49] <jackcom> :(
[8:49] <jackcom> i don’t know
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[8:57] <TyrHeimdal> so... noone able to shed some light on my log-entry? :/
[8:57] <TyrHeimdal> ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00usb_vendor_request: Error - Vendor Request 0x06 failed for offset 0x101c with error -110
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[9:09] <SyncYourDogmas> TyrHeimdal: anything in syslog?
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[9:09] <TyrHeimdal> SyncYourDogmas: let me check
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[9:19] <TyrHeimdal> SyncYourDogmas: http://pastebin.com/hcmBiuVE
[9:19] <TyrHeimdal> It crashed the 6th
[9:21] <TyrHeimdal> SyncYourDogmas: might it be that it lost the mont point in the last entry from the 6th?
[9:22] <TyrHeimdal> that's the root device/SD-card
[9:23] <SyncYourDogmas> TyrHeimdal: maybe...vendor request sounds like some application tried to use it incorrectly
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[9:31] <yene> how do you solve the problem of slow SD card
[9:31] <oq> buy a fast sd card
[9:31] <yene> how do you solve the problem of slow SD card, without the possibility of fast sd card buying
[9:32] <TyrHeimdal> usb-drive
[9:32] <yene> how do you solve the problem of slow SD card, without the possibility of fast sd card buying, and usb-driving
[9:32] <TyrHeimdal> hehe
[9:32] <TyrHeimdal> what are you trying to solve?
[9:32] <yene> my software logs alot of data, is there a trick or something
[9:33] <TyrHeimdal> offload to remote device via network?
[9:33] <TyrHeimdal> create a small RAM-drive that you flush do disk at intervals
[9:33] <oq> TyrHeimdal: surely an sd card would be faster than the 10MB/s max you'd get off the network
[9:33] <yene> i mean the operating system have that problem too right? They solved their logging systems sowhow without killing the IO
[9:33] <TyrHeimdal> oq: very true
[9:34] <TyrHeimdal> but RAM-drive should be possible
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[9:34] <SyncYourDogmas> does the pi have Direct Memory Access? I wouldnt worry about it
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[9:38] <TyrHeimdal> yene: how much data and what kind of data are we talking?
[9:38] <TyrHeimdal> binary? plain text?
[9:38] <yene> I see I have to profile and tune manually, or use the cloud
[9:39] <yene> Thats the right questions, I think this is what I have to find out
[9:40] <TyrHeimdal> yene: at any rate, if the data isn't to large you could use a ramdrive to as a write cache -> http://pastebin.com/P7shc0xS
[9:40] <yene> nah fuck ram drives
[9:40] <yene> too error-prone
[9:41] <TyrHeimdal> but fast as hell ^^
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[9:41] <TyrHeimdal> corrupting your data at infinite speed
[9:42] <yene> faster than light you say? sign me up
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[9:43] <TyrHeimdal> yene: don't belive everything som random nut-job types in the interwebs :P
[9:43] <TyrHeimdal> *some
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[9:44] <yene> nice paradox
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[9:45] <SyncYourDogmas> thats just gonna cause a queue in /proc/net/tcp/tx_queue:rx_queue
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[10:13] <alexarnaud> Hello all!
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[10:15] <alexarnaud> I've tested both Ubuntu Mate and Raspbian for trying to use it with speech synthetizer because I'm a blind person.
[10:15] <alexarnaud> Does anyone know how sound work on RPi 3? I've tested command line speaker-test to check sound but this doesn't work. I'm connected in HDMI. Is the sound driver functionnal?
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[10:15] <joe7dust> will pay a commision if anyone can find this part for me: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=150692
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[10:48] <jackcom> i have final decision of raspberry pi
[10:48] <jackcom> :(
[10:50] <jackcom> it is crazy to buy pi, because if some one buy it, he or she must buy screen keyboard ………….. lol and it is too complicate. so if someone who want to buy raspberry, just buy cheap laptop. lol
[10:50] <jackcom> raspberry is not good choice
[10:50] <jackcom> :(
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[10:51] <ShorTie> the pi is a educational toy, the price of education can be high at times
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[10:51] <joe7dust> i agree it is overly complicated but it is hard to beat that size
[10:51] <SyncYourDogmas> who doesnt have a spare keyboard lying around? ssh once installed
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[10:52] <mfa298> depends on what you're doing with the Pi, most of mine aren't connected to a screen or keyboard
[10:52] <jackcom> best choice is buying laptop.
[10:52] <joe7dust> for example right now I'm working on a project that will have a RPi0 inside a GBA SP case... which is pretty damned amazing. Show me another product that could fit in there and has emulator support jackcom
[10:52] <mfa298> they also have my own electronics plugged in which I can't easily do on a laptop
[10:52] <monsieur_h> alexarnaud: Hey, maybe your Raspberry Pi is configured to output the sound on the jack port instead of the HDMI port.
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[10:53] <jackcom> who buy pi may go to hospital. maybe.
[10:53] <jackcom> just buy cheap laptop
[10:53] <jackcom> only
[10:54] <joe7dust> jackcom did you even read what I just wrote?
[10:54] <jackcom> i want buy it yesterday, but i changed my mind now.
[10:54] <mfa298> jackcom: a cheap laptop isn't suitable for what I do with my Pi's
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[10:54] <jackcom> yes joe7dust
[10:54] <joe7dust> for $100 in parts or less I will have that inside a 2.5" x 3" x 1" enclosure. Not even an intel NUC could do that, let alone a "laptop" rofl
[10:55] <mfa298> jackcom: the suitability of any device depends on what you want to do with it. Use the right tool for the job and all that. The Pi is the right tool for some tasks but not for all tasks
[10:55] <joe7dust> besides laptops are WAY overrated. For performance you generally want a full desktop. For portability a good phone or tablet is usually better than a laptop.
[10:56] <jackcom> only baby want to buy it. because baby know it as food :(
[10:56] <joe7dust> The only real use for a laptop for me would be having an ultra high end version that essentially replaces my desktop but is portable. Trouble is if you want a decent GPU in such a laptop you are going to have to pay with your left nut.
[10:56] <jackcom> laptop is portable tool
[10:56] <jackcom> too
[10:57] <joe7dust> what do you do with laptops that you think you can't do with a good phone/tablet?
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[10:58] <joe7dust> sometimes I control my gaming desktop from my phone its like having huge horsepower in your pocket. laptops don't even fit in pockets...
[10:58] <jackcom> i think that if someone buy pi, then guy throw money only.
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[10:58] <joe7dust> yea cause they are so expensive right
[10:59] <joe7dust> i have noticed though a lot of people bought them and never used them, they are kind of like a bragging right or collector's item to many
[10:59] <jackcom> save money, then buy laptop only.
[10:59] <jackcom> yes joe7dust they don’t use it
[10:59] <jackcom> because they have laptop or pc already
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[11:00] <joe7dust> even one of the biggest suppliers of Pi parts uses deceptive tactics and some things you can tell 90% of the buyers will never even be able to use the product successfully
[11:00] <jackcom> only baby want to buy it. because baby know it as food of raspberry pie
[11:00] <mfa298> jackcom: I've got a couple of Pi3's running here that cost about half the price of the cheapest laptop, why am I throwing money away.
[11:00] <joe7dust> its definitely not a good system for someone who isn't a genius already or prepared to devote a lot of time and energy to learning and setup
[11:00] <joe7dust> its kind of just a hobby in that aspect, like knitting
[11:01] <joe7dust> something to do
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[11:02] <jackcom> this channel people help raspberry company for selling item. salary man only
[11:02] <Berg> im mister 30 percent
[11:02] <mfa298> raspberry Pi's were designed as an educational tool, so if you're not prepared to put some time in to learn to use them then it's probably the wrong choice.
[11:03] <joe7dust> i dont know about before 2 days ago, but i've been here for 2 days straight and actually there isn't much help going on at all lol jackcom. at least not on the hardware side of things
[11:03] <SyncYourDogmas> can I read the files if I put sdcard in an sdcard reader on windows?
[11:03] <Berg> hay folks i now have my pi three listening to voice command over good recognition i still can get sphinx working
[11:03] <Berg> you should be able to SyncYourDogmas i do it on linux
[11:03] <joe7dust> i've seen a handful of people get some general command line type assistance on setting up software tho
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[11:04] <jackcom> laptop >>>>>>> smart phone >>>>>> pi lol
[11:04] <SyncYourDogmas> Berg: thanks, ssh access not working and I dont have a screen anywhere atm...
[11:04] <mfa298> joe7dust: there's usually help for people that need it and ask for it, some of it can be quite detailed.
[11:04] <jackcom> it is just wasting money
[11:04] <mfa298> but it's dependant on someone knowing the answer and being around to help.
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[11:05] <Berg> try checking the ip and stuff for ssh
[11:05] <mfa298> we're all just users of the Pi
[11:05] <joe7dust> im just saying if this is really a front for rasp pi to push their hardware then someone probably would have helped me find the hardware i was trying to buy the last 2 days
[11:05] <Berg> SyncYourDogmas: the address might have changed
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[11:05] <joe7dust> i think i just about found it all on my own by now though fortunately
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[11:05] <SyncYourDogmas> Berg: I nmapped it, port used to be 4848, scannned all ports anyway and just got resets
[11:06] <SyncYourDogmas> seems sshd died, or fail2ban blocked me or something
[11:06] <Berg> joe7dust: many here suggested hardware for you its not always easy to grasp ideas from folks in text
[11:06] <jackcom> buying raspberry is crazy
[11:06] <jackcom> :(
[11:06] <joe7dust> I got mine for $5 each and I'm selling the extras for $15... how is that crazy?
[11:07] <Berg> best thing i ever did was buy a reaspberry pi to controll my solar array and battery charging jackcom
[11:07] <jackcom> someone who don’t have money then buy cheap smart phone if you don’t have money to buy laptop.
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[11:07] <Berg> why this disatisfactrion ?
[11:07] <jackcom> solar array?
[11:07] <jackcom> :(
[11:07] <joe7dust> jackcom it is just a tool, like you. if you don't need such tool don't buy it
[11:08] <Berg> Im using my new pi3 As a desktop pc
[11:08] <joe7dust> i like hammers and nails, but you don't see me flaming those people who prefer screws for no reason
[11:08] <mfa298> jackcom: maybe go and read the comments above (like I told you have have 2 running Pi3s for less than I could get anythign else going).
[11:08] <Berg> and it calls me master with especk
[11:08] <Berg> hehehe
[11:08] <Berg> espeak
[11:09] <mfa298> jackcom: if you don't want to get a Pi maybe you should leave and do somethign else productive
[11:09] <jackcom> save your money
[11:09] <jackcom> :(
[11:09] <Berg> I have a voice activated dog
[11:09] <joe7dust> yea $5 is too much!
[11:09] <Berg> its a ai with fur
[11:09] <joe7dust> when they are reselling for 3x that and more! omfg what shall I do!
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[11:10] <Berg> i need coffee
[11:11] <jackcom> if this channel people are poor, then just work at job. then buy expensive laptop only
[11:12] <ShorTie> the pi can do things a laptop can not though
[11:12] <SyncYourDogmas> jackcom: we understand your view on the matter
[11:12] <jackcom> lol
[11:12] <jackcom> SyncYourDogmas: thanks
[11:14] <joe7dust> does the foundation even profit off the zero? I'm thinking they are trying to get their hardware out there at a loss to take over the world. ;) (think how sony/nintendo used to price their old consoles)
[11:14] <jackcom> How about All people leaving here and close this channel?
[11:15] <Berg> I feel like no one understand *ME!*
[11:15] <mfa298> jackcom: you should lead the way
[11:15] <Berg> I think you need to see the pi for what it is cheap learn tool that can double as a desktop if you dont mind slight wait
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[11:16] <Berg> and i get 20 dollars pocket money a week
[11:16] <Berg> <---poor
[11:16] <joe7dust> I will admit jackcom once NUCs get better the pi might be in trouble unless they get nano level small for digital jewelry and such
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[11:17] <joe7dust> NUCs are already good enough to replace the average users desktop needs (non-gaming)
[11:17] <Berg> you cant plug things in with huge clunky hands if things get smaller
[11:17] <Berg> thats why i like the hugeness
[11:18] <joe7dust> there is a lot to be said for plug n play, and shit just working out of the box
[11:18] <Berg> friends geeks and nerds send me your zero's
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[11:18] <Berg> sure joe7dust but what if you make your own parts
[11:18] <joe7dust> but today's NUCs still need an expensive and huge external GPU card which is rare also to be a good gamin desktop replacement
[11:19] <jackcom> studying raspberry is wasting time and money.
[11:19] <jackcom> :(
[11:19] <jackcom> i will never return here.
[11:19] <joe7dust> I bet you could fit a badass GPU inside a NUC if you just had access to liquid helium or something to cool the damned thingg :P
[11:19] <ShorTie> good
[11:20] <jackcom> just buy android phone only
[11:20] <joe7dust> right now their size seems kind of mandatory for proper heat dissappation
[11:20] <ShorTie> don't let the door knob hit you in the but on the way out
[11:20] <mfa298> jackcom: well you've just wasted an hour of your life, why not leave and not waste any more
[11:20] <Berg> http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/v/bergs+place/?g2_page=5
[11:20] <Berg> this is pi fun
[11:21] <Berg> i have a pi with a fear of door knobs
[11:21] <ShorTie> a dolley of bricks ??
[11:21] <Berg> it turned into a furnace to melt aluminium
[11:22] <Berg> it will soon make a pi case
[11:22] <jackcom> if you want buy cheap one, then just buy 10 arduino. arduino is just $3.5. and raspberry is $35. it is difference of 10 times.
[11:22] <Berg> scroll through the pages there is lots made junk i make
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[11:23] <Berg> jackcom: does a aduino have a operating system?
[11:23] <joe7dust> last I checked the arduino had a 16Mhz cPU or something...
[11:23] <jackcom> yes it has Berg
[11:23] <Berg> never muchewd looked at them cause they was always costly for what the product was
[11:24] <jackcom> it is really wasting time and money.
[11:24] <Berg> aduino is?
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[11:25] <Berg> http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/d/31554-2/masklogo.png
[11:25] <jackcom> bye
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[11:25] <Berg> raspberry pi forever
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[11:25] <jackcom> i will leave here and never return.
[11:25] <Berg> seems like you dont love us?
[11:25] <jackcom> it is just crazy pi
[11:25] <jackcom> lol
[11:25] <Berg> oioo the pain
[11:26] <Berg> danger will robinson
[11:26] <Berg> ok begone demon
[11:26] <joe7dust> jackcom is there an arduino with a CPU better than 16MHz? I think its just a microcontroller for robotic servos and sensors and such isn't it ?
[11:26] <jackcom> but it’s price is 1/10
[11:26] <jackcom> ok
[11:26] <jackcom> $3.5 vs $35
[11:26] <jackcom> lol
[11:27] <Berg> I realy cant get a yhandle on the topic?
[11:27] <joe7dust> RPi0 is $5 and it actually has a full CPU ... there is no comparison
[11:27] <Berg> is the arduino a waste of time and money?
[11:27] <jackcom> i have no time to talk with #raspberry
[11:27] <jackcom> bye
[11:27] <ShorTie> depends on what cha doing
[11:28] <Berg> i thought you left already
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[11:28] <Berg> shortie is at fault here
[11:28] <ShorTie> Yuppers ... :)
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[11:29] <joe7dust> he was a really shitty troll lmao
[11:29] <joe7dust> comparing an Arduino with 16MHz CPU to Pi??
[11:32] <Armand> Note: Jackcom asks really stupid questions with no discernible reason. He's been kicked from #android and ##hardware on many occasions for baseless stupidity.
[11:33] <Armand> Claims an IQ of 158, but doesn't seem to grasp basics.. such as, a router can host both wired and wifi connections at the same time.
[11:33] <mfa298> no doubt the same would have happened here is someone with the power had been around.
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[11:36] <Berg> I have the power!
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[11:36] <Berg> but not here
[11:36] <Berg> :)
[11:36] <Armand> lolz
[11:37] <Berg> I actualy thought i walked into a clown show
[11:37] <Berg> i wasnt real sure what was going on but was fun
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[11:37] <Armand> You went to a Trump rally ?
[11:37] <Berg> im australian
[11:37] <Armand> lol
[11:37] <Berg> you guys are stuckj with that clown
[11:37] <Armand> Not I.. but it's a risk. �_�
[11:38] <Berg> you can have them all sanders and hillary too
[11:38] <Armand> I'll be moving to the US in the next year or two, so.. Ehh.
[11:38] <Armand> Let's hope it's not Drumpf.
[11:38] <joe7dust> you mean Billary?
[11:38] <Berg> take what your given they had obama twice i thought they relise the first time but nO!
[11:39] <ShorTie> i hear that
[11:39] <Berg> anyway how do i dump the audio buffer?
[11:39] <Berg> in python
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[11:41] <Berg> http://pastebin.com/XDT8m66v
[11:43] <Berg> shout very loud at PC to make this work its a strees relief program
[11:43] <Berg> heheheh
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[11:45] <SyncYourDogmas> Berg: you'll need to find the file descriptor, lsof perhaps, then either try opening it I suppose to copy or os.fsync()
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[11:55] <Emil> Hi
[11:55] <Emil> So I got my zero
[11:55] <Emil> but I'm wondering what the exposed pads are for on the underside of the pi
[11:56] <Emil> For example, under the camera adapter there is obviously some sort of connector I could solder on
[11:56] <mfa298> I think most of them are for some sort of testing / debugging
[11:56] <Emil> So anyone have images that would completely explain the layout?
[11:57] <mfa298> I think there's a load of information in the forum about them
[11:57] <joe7dust> emil I got you man just a sec ill find the schematic i was checking earlier
[11:57] <Emil> mfa298: agreed, but the one under the camera adapter is obviously made for some type of connector
[11:57] <Emil> joe7dust: nice!
[11:57] <Emil> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/schematics/Raspberry-Pi-Rev-1.0-Model-AB-Schematics.pdf
[11:57] <joe7dust> one of them is for the usb I know that much, so you can solder there to save space instead of using an actual usb connector
[11:57] <Emil> I was checking that earlier but it is a pain to connect to the board
[11:57] <mfa298> that one might be a jtag interface for debugging the soc (if you have the required tool and information)
[11:58] <Emil> joe7dust: Yeah, I've heard of that one, too
[11:58] <Emil> Will have to solder on a wifi dongle / adapter for connectivity
[11:59] <joe7dust> http://sudomod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=258
[11:59] <mfa298> you might find some information on https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=127116
[12:00] <Emil> joe7dust: thanks!
[12:00] <joe7dust> emil if that helps you , you could pay me back by helping me find a North American supplier of a 2.8 to 3.5 inch display
[12:00] <joe7dust> most ocmpatible one I've been able to find the past 2 days of searching is located in china and will be $33 shipped 4-7 days
[12:00] <joe7dust> business* days
[12:01] <mfa298> note that the PP pins for usb are the same as the USB socket on the Pi so you can only use one at a time
[12:01] <joe7dust> any of these for $33 or less shipped in less than 7 business days I'd be very interested in! http://sudomod.com/wiki/index.php?title=GBZ_Screen
[12:02] <joe7dust> its actually goin inside a GBA SP shell so 2.9inch would be ideal but I don't think those exists
[12:02] <joe7dust> found some 2.8 inch though just none of them looked easy to hook up and would definitely fit
[12:03] <Emil> joe7dust: I just bought myself 128x128 1.44 inch one from ebay
[12:03] <joe7dust> way too small
[12:03] <Emil> and before that, some other 2.5 to 3.5 (can't remember which one it was)
[12:03] <joe7dust> were some decent at 2.5 inch and even that was too small
[12:03] <Emil> for like 5 bucks
[12:03] <joe7dust> it has to be 2.8 to 3.5
[12:03] <Emil> joe7dust: I can check later if you remind me
[12:03] <Emil> mfa298: yeah, true
[12:04] <joe7dust> I'm actually planning to buy the $17+$15 express international one here in the next hour or so if no one else can beat it http://www.gearbest.com/development-boards/pp_29447.html
[12:04] <joe7dust> $2 bounty as of now guys, might go up a little as it gets closer to trigger time ! ;)
[12:05] <joe7dust> all the other parts will be here inside of a week so not too happy about the possible 7 business day wait but it will work
[12:06] <ShorTie> what kind of display ?? rear view monitors work preaty good
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[12:06] <joe7dust> its true I found some $16 free shipping models located in US ... but none of them are on this list so I don't trust http://sudomod.com/wiki/index.php?title=GBZ_Screen
[12:07] <joe7dust> not wiling to take a risk on a random backup camera
[12:07] <joe7dust> especially one that might require an addition DC-DC booster (most backup cams run off 12v)
[12:07] <mfa298> if you want something in the US you probably want to look at ebay/amazon/digikey/mouser
[12:08] <joe7dust> yea i did and those start at $16 with free shipping its just none of them are in the list I linked and I'm not savvy enough to know if they will work off 5v, be compatible with my RPi0 and fit in the GBA SP shell top half
[12:08] <ShorTie> then run off of 5vdc, they have a regulator (that can be bypassed) so they run on 12vdc
[12:08] <joe7dust> like I said most the random backup cams seem to run off 12v
[12:08] <mfa298> I suspect most small LCD composite screens will be 12V as car use will be the largest buyer. The LCD and controller is probably lower voltage but the backlight might be designed for 12v
[12:08] <joe7dust> I did see some models with bypass, some as simple as placcing a dob of solder between 2 pads
[12:09] <joe7dust> but if they aren't on this list I really can't be sure it will work :( http://sudomod.com/wiki/index.php?title=GBZ_Screen
[12:09] <ShorTie> like this https://www.dropbox.com/s/kpe5ek17e7e4fkf/IMAG0003.JPG?dl=0
[12:09] <joe7dust> if you find one for $30 or less in the US and guarantee it to work for my project I'll gladly send a paypal tip, offer expires in about 50 minutes
[12:11] <joe7dust> no offense but that is ugly as fuck :P
[12:11] <joe7dust> mine is going to be as close to a stock GBA SP looking as possible
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[12:12] <ShorTie> need to read the rules there don't cha ??
[12:12] <joe7dust> using this shell http://www.ebay.com/itm/282058599264?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[12:13] <joe7dust> I'm also going to make one inside of one of these too, but that is project #2 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-Game-Boy-Powers-Up-But-Untested-SEE-DESCRIPTION-Parts-Only-NO-RETURNS-/222144426517?hash=item33b8d6f215:g:RSYAAOSwOVpXVkTH http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Original-Nintendo-Game-Boy-Green-DMG-01-Nemesis-Cable-Adapter-Bundle-/252403716713?hash=item3ac46f1269:g:StUAAOSw3mpXH8W1
[12:14] <joe7dust> if i get the working one ill slap it in a random $10 shell and resell the working original GB parts that way
[12:14] <joe7dust> so don't worry, no GB will be harmed ;)
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[12:15] <armin> success! running netbsd 7 on a raspberry pi 1!
[12:15] <joe7dust> damnit someone bought the white one already
[12:15] <armin> \m/ of course it runs NetBSD.
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[12:36] <yene> what is the coolest thing you have ever seen anybody do with a raspberry pi?
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[12:42] <joe7dust> my current project
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[12:46] <joe7dust> time is almost up on that bounty I offered earlier FYI, going to pull the trigger on this order soon
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[12:52] <gordonDrogon> joe7dust, keep it family friendly please ...
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[12:52] <joe7dust> ok
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[12:55] <gordonDrogon> Rules: https://goo.gl/h5qPhz
[12:55] <gordonDrogon> ta.
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[12:58] <joe7dust> I'm going to leave this bounty up for about 15 more minutes if anyone wants to make some shekkles off their google-fu skills! https://www.reddit.com/r/HelpMeFind/comments/4mygrs/5_bounty_to_anyone_who_can_find_this_lcd_display/
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[13:17] <gordonDrogon> for composite video input? Aren't the little car reversing ones like that?
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[13:18] <joe7dust> sort of
[13:19] <joe7dust> most of them run off 12 v
[13:19] <joe7dust> the ones that don't require hardware modding to work on 5v are more rare
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> ok
[13:19] <joe7dust> there is a link on the post that shows the list of tested displays
[13:19] <joe7dust> I will only get something that isn't on that list if someone can assure me it will work and fit
[13:20] <gordonDrogon> I'd not know where to start and would only give you UK links anyway.
[13:20] <joe7dust> ideally i was hoping someone could find one of those listed displays in stock in NA
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[13:20] <joe7dust> since all of them seem to be located in CN atm
[13:23] <oq> ooo my pi noir has arrived
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[13:47] <giddles> hey
[13:47] <giddles> retropie heads here?
[13:47] <giddles> i have a problem configuring my logitech f310
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[13:51] <GRiZL0C> i hate raspbian
[13:51] <GRiZL0C> no more raspbian for me
[13:52] <giddles> come to the good ubunto mate
[13:52] <giddles> :D
[13:52] <Chunkyz> lol why?
[13:52] <GRiZL0C> ues i did that giddles
[13:52] <GRiZL0C> yes*
[13:52] <giddles> i hate raspbipian also
[13:52] <giddles> :D
[13:52] * ozzzy hasn't found anything wrong with raspbian
[13:52] <Chunkyz> ubuntu mate is slow as f
[13:52] <giddles> rlly?
[13:53] <Chunkyz> yes
[13:53] <giddles> im amazed how fast it is ;)
[13:53] <giddles> @ rpi3
[13:53] <Chunkyz> lmao sure
[13:53] <oq> why do you hate raspbian?
[13:53] <giddles> surfin problems are linked to 1gig ram
[13:53] <Chunkyz> ozzzy, raspbian lite is great :)
[13:53] <oq> it's just debian with raspberry pi repos
[13:53] <giddles> jaja
[13:53] <giddles> mate and raspbipian
[13:53] <giddles> :)
[13:53] <oq> and debian is the best os ever created
[13:53] <ozzzy> I never use 'lite' products
[13:53] <giddles> meh
[13:53] <oq> ozzzy: why?
[13:54] <giddles> gimme react os ;)
[13:54] <Chunkyz> giddles, you a bad troll or what?
[13:54] <giddles> hehe
[13:54] <giddles> nah retropie dont accept right down button on my logitech :/
[13:54] <GRiZL0C> all i ever wanted from raspbian was use it as irc client and watch a movie from the usb hdd i have connected the friggin omxplayer wont play ubuntu at least has vlc player
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[13:55] <Chunkyz> GRiZL0C, raspbian has vlc...
[13:55] <GRiZL0C> chunkyz i have installed vlc player on raspbian
[13:56] <GRiZL0C> it wont play, has something to do with it not hardware gpu accellerated
[13:56] <ozzzy> oq, lite means 'something missing'.... I'll stay with the good stuff
[13:56] <Chunkyz> ozzzy, no
[13:56] <shiftplusone> *grabs popcorn*
[13:56] <ozzzy> Chunkyz, yep
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[13:57] <Chunkyz> no
[13:58] <Chunkyz> anyway, off to check out this new gta update...
[13:58] <GRiZL0C> have fun
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[14:05] <mfa298> GRiZL0C: chances are you'll have the same not hardware accelerated issue with vlc on ubuntu
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[14:08] <mfa298> ozzzy: lite does mean something is missing, all the bloat some people never need/want.
[14:09] <ozzzy> and I'd rather choose what I need/want
[14:10] <mfa298> that's why the lite version is good, you get the bare minimum then add what you need. With the full version there's a load of stuff installed you may never look at or need
[14:11] <mfa298> the only difference is what's initially installed (you can add packages to lite to get to full, or remove packages from full to get to lite)
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[14:12] <mfa298> however adding stuff is usually much easier than getting rid of stuff
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[14:15] <ozzzy> about the same
[14:15] <ozzzy> but as storage is cheap I don't worry about it
[14:16] <ozzzy> I just leave it there but stop it from running on boot
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[14:21] <giddles> maaaan what crap
[14:21] <giddles> 68euro for controllers incl shipping and i cant use em proper
[14:21] <giddles> :D
[14:22] <giddles> seems its time for the manial..
[14:22] <giddles> manual
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[14:23] <Bilby> what controllers?
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[14:24] <giddles> f310
[14:25] <Bilby> nice, playstation stype
[14:25] <Bilby> *style
[14:25] <Bilby> I used an XBOX 360 controller with RetroPi with good results
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[14:27] <giddles> hmm problem solved... from x to d
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[14:27] <giddles> hehe better i start first on the manual ;)
[14:28] <giddles> what you played Bilby
[14:28] <giddles> :)
[14:29] <giddles> on a pi3 mariokart 64 is fluid ;)
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[14:29] <Bilby> mostly sega games on a Rev 2 Pi 1 B
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[14:30] <giddles> i try actual psx
[14:31] <giddles> my dad got a videotheque and we got all that shit in history on console ;) its like a time travel for me to play all the funny old shit on ONE device
[14:31] <ozzzy> I was never into games
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[14:33] <giddles> screenshots.en.sftcdn.net/en/scrn/9fzero000/9488/grand-theft-auto-11.jpg %)
[14:34] <Bilby> also heads up - family safe language kplsthx ;)
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[14:34] <Bilby> link no worky?
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[14:37] <giddles> ow
[14:37] <giddles> true
[14:37] <giddles> why..
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[14:37] <oq> this? http://screenshots.en.sftcdn.net/en/scrn/9000/9488/grand-theft-auto-11.jpg
[14:37] <Bilby> there we go
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[14:37] <giddles> http://www.chip.de/ii/8/8/2/5/4/7/d8a280bad4e2af68.jpg
[14:37] <giddles> alternative ;)
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[14:45] <gordonDrogon> giddles, no point me reminding you to try to keep it family friendly.
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> probably no point at all these days.
[14:46] <joe7dust> Am I not viewing this chatroom correctly or does it literally have zero people with +ops ?
[14:46] <giddles> hehe i try gordonDrogon
[14:46] <oq> joe7dust: lots of channels on freenode hide whos op
[14:46] <giddles> is tough since rpi3 has this new sd card holder
[14:47] <joe7dust> o_O
[14:47] <joe7dust> I never even knew that... interesting... !#$ing undercovers...
[14:47] <giddles> depends on topic
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[14:47] <oq> joe7dust: it's actually recommended, it makes for a more peaceful atmosphere
[14:48] <mfa298> joe7dust: often the op's only op up if they need to
[14:48] <joe7dust> so now I can't poke at gordondrogon for minimodding
[14:48] <giddles> the question is the system behind
[14:48] <joe7dust> he might acutally be one o_O
[14:48] <giddles> have the ops a pastebin page where they can interact or are they lonly riders who trap everytime in same traps
[14:48] <Bilby> idn if freenode has it but many irc networks will have a chanserv bot that's always opped and can handle op actions discretely, too
[14:48] <oq> joe7dust: https://freenode.net/changuide "Don't dis­play chan­nel op­er­a­tor priv­i­leges. Dis­play­ing these priv­i­leges on your nick with a "+o" at­tracts par­tic­i­pants who are in­ter­est­ed in gain­ing them and us­ing them ac­tive­ly; it also at­tracts the at­ten­tion of par­tic­i­pants who re­act neg­a­tive­ly to
[14:48] <oq> au­thor­i­ty. Have your ac­count added to the chan­nel ac­cess list and op your­self only when need­ed."
[14:49] <joe7dust> now that I think about it I think I have seen this before
[14:49] <ali1234> joe7dust: he is one
[14:49] <joe7dust> I distinctly remember someone suddenly gaining +op after i said something snarkey. man dem butt pucker feels
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[14:50] <joe7dust> HERE IT COMES!
[14:50] <joe7dust> phew
[14:50] <joe7dust> stand down, standddd down!
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[14:51] <joe7dust> anyways im off for a bit, later all
[14:51] <giddles> but to be honest gordonDrogon, i meet a rpi con and they looked at me like im an alien
[14:51] <joe7dust> finally got all the major stuff i needed for my projectall that is left is some spare wire and the tactile switches :D
[14:51] <giddles> because i use it as mini pc, not as simple led traffic light learning tool
[14:52] <joe7dust> so if anyone has a good source on switches let me know. the adafruit prices are nice but the 9.50 minimum shipping is yucky
[14:52] <ali1234> china via ebay
[14:52] <ali1234> you get like 200 for a dollar
[14:52] <joe7dust> yea im not waiting for that :P
[14:52] <ali1234> pay adafruit prices then i guess
[14:52] <joe7dust> i mean sure ill order that just for later on but for this first project i need them from the US
[14:53] <Bilby> joe7dust: digikey or dangit the other one when digikey doesn't have a part
[14:53] <joe7dust> everything will be here by next tuesday except the screen which i was literally forced to get direct from china since the other ones were kind of a coinflip on whether they would work or not
[14:53] <joe7dust> and i paid $15 extra for expedited on that and they claim 4-7 bus days
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[14:54] <Bilby> Mouser
[14:54] <joe7dust> so by next friday would be the latest i can source the switches
[14:54] <Bilby> also for smaller / less specific parts, www.PartSexPress.com and http://www.allelectronics.com/
[14:55] <Bilby> also http://www.jameco.com/ and http://www.alliedelec.com/ can be good direct-source industrial sources
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[14:55] <Bilby> joe7dust what kind of switches do you need?
[14:56] <joe7dust> um
[14:56] <joe7dust> the ones for the zero boy
[14:56] <joe7dust> i think it was 8-10 6mm
[14:56] <joe7dust> and 2 12mm
[14:56] <joe7dust> anyways im off for a bit thanks again
[14:56] <joe7dust> only have $7 left to spend total
[14:57] <joe7dust> and i might still need some 18-22awg 1-2' for the powered wiring
[14:57] <Bilby> check digikey and mouser then, you'll be able to pick specifically the parts you need and they should be inexpensive
[14:57] <joe7dust> the 26awg i'm going to cut up an ethernet cord
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[14:58] <ali1234> 18awg is extremely thick, you will probably have trouble routing that in a small space
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[14:59] <TheLostAdmin> what could you be building with a raspberry pi that would need 18awg wiring? Maybe a killer robot.
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[15:21] <Bilby> sometimes depending on the maths you can run a much more thin cord inside the case with minimal loss anyhow
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[15:33] <tommy``> guys i'm trying a perl script but i get this error:
[15:33] <tommy``> http://hastebin.com/wesebimijo.vhdl
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[15:37] <shiftplusone> tommy``: it tells you the problem
[15:37] <shiftplusone> "you may need to install the HTTP::Request module"
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[15:37] <tommy``> i dunno what is this
[15:40] <JK-47> cpan HTTP::Request
[15:41] <JK-47> or apt-cache search perl HTTP::Request and then sudo apt-get install FOOOOO
[15:41] <tommy``> ok let's see if my pi2 explode :D
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[15:43] <mfa298> if there's a package it's probably something like perl-http-request
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[15:44] <Chillum> perl packages take to form of: libhttp-request-perl
[15:44] <Chillum> prefix lib, lowercase, convert :: to -, suffix -perl
[15:45] <tommy``> i'm aptgetting
[15:46] <mfa298> looking on my Pi looks like it might be libhttp-message-perl
[15:46] <mfa298> based off what owns /usr/share/perl5/HTTP/Request.pm
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[16:02] <rwb> Hi, does anyone know of a good 4G LTE Modem (usb) for the pi? Something with good Linux support?
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[16:07] <Chunkyz> you can choose what you need/want with lite. you don't have stupid stuff installed that you're never going to use! hence why I like, lite.
[16:07] <Chunkyz> ozzzy, ^
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[16:10] <Bilby> I started using minibian before lite was a thing, and now i'm used to it i guess
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[16:11] <Bilby> rwb: I've seen a few on the wiki, it's somewhat dependant on what carrier you want
[16:11] <Bilby> and tech
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[16:24] <Chunkyz> miniban is great Bilby
[16:24] <Chunkyz> :p
[16:24] <Chunkyz> I'm waiting for them to update it
[16:24] <Chunkyz> and there;s also slimbian
[16:24] <Chunkyz> but not tried that
[16:24] <Chunkyz> I don't like the full raspbian image because there's stuff installed I'm NEVER going to use/want
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[16:25] <Chunkyz> lite, I can customize to me. it's much better and faster...
[16:25] <Bilby> yarp. I need to figure out how to install some xwin packages so i can run a browser window
[16:25] <Bilby> that's the only thing i'm missing from minibian to be able to run very nice digital info boards
[16:25] <Chunkyz> Google should be able to help Bilby
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[16:26] <SyncYourDogmas> Chunkyz: I did the opposite actually on my first pi, purged a lot of gui and useless stuff
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[16:27] <Bilby> yeah i haven't spent more than 5 minutes at it yet lol
[16:27] <Bilby> i was doing some testing, it didn't work with minibian because it was looking for xwindows. I said 'meh', copied raspibian and went back to my business lol
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[16:28] <SyncYourDogmas> I'm using arch next, getting ps -e | wc -l down as far as I can...
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[16:29] <tommy``> how can i prevent the damaged caused by a power fault and relatives no boot/kernel panic error?
[16:29] <IT_Sean> With reliable power
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[16:30] <oq> make everything readonly
[16:30] <IT_Sean> or that ^
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[16:30] <SyncYourDogmas> use a fuse in between pi and the mains
[16:30] <tommy``> mmh right
[16:31] <Bilby> And the risk is fairly low, if you're talking about normal power outage circumstances you're probably okay
[16:31] <Chillum> I am working on a battery powered print that uses a pi. I am going to make it all read only so it can handle sudden shutoffs
[16:31] <tommy``> Bilby, no i mean when there are lightning and heavy rain
[16:31] <Bilby> UPS and power surge protectioin, same as any computer
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[16:31] <tommy``> yes
[16:31] <oq> tommy``: london?
[16:31] <Chillum> battery power
[16:32] <tommy``> oq, italy
[16:32] <Chillum> ligntning proof unless it hits the battery directly!
[16:32] <Bilby> or a full non-conducting power isolation unit :P
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[16:33] <tapoxi> hi everyone, VPN connections on the raspberry pi, what do people recommend?
[16:33] <tapoxi> (connecting to a VPN, I don't have a GUI)
[16:34] <shiftplusone> hm? openvpn is kind of the standard
[16:34] <Bilby> yarp
[16:34] <tapoxi> sorry, IPSec
[16:34] <Bilby> and secureish
[16:34] <SyncYourDogmas> ssh is another option
[16:34] <tapoxi> I wonder if I should use strongswan/libreswan or if networkmanager is supposed to handle this
[16:34] <tommy``> it's normal that "find / -name file.ext" returns me: Permission denied ?
[16:34] <Chunkyz> SyncYourDogmas, I found arch to be unstable on the pi
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[16:37] <SyncYourDogmas> Chunkyz: I'm in the middle of fixing debian on my dodgy acer laptop right now actually, I've spent far too much time looking at config and log files...I'll bash it into shape
[16:37] <shiftplusone> tommy``: yes, that's normal. there's no reason for a user to have access to all the files and a good reason for them not to
[16:37] <SyncYourDogmas> tommy``: yeah for some processes in /proc
[16:37] <tommy``> oh ok, i just simple search a .h and it show me this
[16:38] <kristina> anyone with bare metal experience on rpi around?
[16:39] <SpeedEvil> kristina: how bare do you mean?
[16:39] <kristina> need help unfucking up https://github.com/christinaa/rpi-open-firmware/blob/master/arm_chainloader/drivers/sdhost.cc
[16:39] <kristina> i don't know enough about MMC/SD to do it.
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[16:47] <Kromag> g'morning all
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[16:49] <IT_Sean> Gah'mernin
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[16:52] <Bilby> o/
[16:54] <Armand> Dafternoon
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[17:24] <Ascavasaion> I presume most Pi projects will work on any version of the actual Pi, but obviously performance would improve with later models?
[17:24] <Ascavasaion> To put is crudely :)
[17:24] <Ascavasaion> To put it crudely :)
[17:25] <shiftplusone> depends on the specifics, but in general, yes.
[17:25] <Bilby> Yes - the only limitation might be pre-compiled programs written for later versions of ARM
[17:25] <Bilby> ... and GPIO changes, which mostly can be compensated for
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[17:26] <Ascavasaion> Thank you shiftplusone and Bilby. I thought as much. I have an older Pi, and was wondering if I should bother... now I think I will.
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[17:26] <Bilby> I have a Pi 1 B and use it regularly
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[17:28] <roadHockeyKing> Bilby: me to, all the time. It's my irc server. Except today, power outage :(
[17:28] <DrJ> pi 1 was just too slow imo for much of anything
[17:28] <Bilby> One of mine was a VoIP PBX for a while haha
[17:28] <DrJ> loving the pi3 speed
[17:29] <Bilby> DrJ: you'd be surprised, it really depends on the application
[17:29] <DrJ> even typing over ssh would lag with nothing running
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[17:29] <Bilby> i've built media players, digital billboards, FreePBX phone systems, touch-based menu systems, and more on 1s
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[17:30] <czer00> Hi all. I use mine as a network storage device using SAMBA. I want to do more with it tho. I also have a PiZero and Pi 3.
[17:30] <roadHockeyKing> I used Pi1 for retroPi for a while. Ran PSx decently. I also for kicks used a pi1 for seti@home
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[17:31] <Kromag> roadHockeyKing, what do you mean it's your IRC Server?
[17:31] <Bilby> that poor alien ain't never gonna be found :P
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[17:32] <roadHockeyKing> I guess not server. My irc client runs 24/7 on one now. Unless storms knocked power out like today
[17:32] <Kromag> whta do yo u mean tho
[17:32] <Kromag> like VNC
[17:33] <roadHockeyKing> Ssh, I use Irssi.
[17:33] <Kromag> to connect you here?
[17:33] <roadHockeyKing> Usually yes
[17:33] <Kromag> ok
[17:34] <Kromag> yeah I am trying to setup Ubuntu Mate on mine
[17:34] <Kromag> then a LAMP server
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[17:34] <Kromag> I have a Pi3 tho
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[17:34] <Kromag> eventually I want a cluster
[17:34] <Kromag> 8pi node-cluster with a balancer
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[17:35] <Kromag> for a home server
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[17:35] <Kromag> I have a big house
[17:35] <Kromag> and a lot of people come over and stay for a while
[17:35] <Ascavasaion> Hell I wish I was as jacked up with this stuff as you guys. I feel so old and knowledgeless (is there such a word? hehe).
[17:35] <Kromag> and we mess around with chit
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[17:36] <Kromag> I also have a PiDrive
[17:36] <Kromag> I got in last week
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[17:40] <roadHockeyKing> What's PiDrive?
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[17:41] <Ascavasaion> roadHockeyKing: Google gave this as hit number three, "It’s a no-brainer really, due to the Pi’s size and power requirements; the only thing you need to add is a USB hard drive. On Pi Day Western Digital, popular purveyors of hard drives, released PiDrive, a Raspberry Pi-optimised USB hard drive that you may want to consider for ..."
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[17:42] <TheLostAdmin> PiDrive is a USB attached hard drive made by Western Digital. it has a special case to fit nicely with the Raspberry Pi and share a power supply.
[17:42] <GRiZL0C> lol i managed to make my usb hdd which is connected to my pi3 as a NAS i used the same commands as i did under raspbian and it works :D
[17:42] <GRiZL0C> lovely linux
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[17:43] <Kromag> PiDrive is a specially made HDD by WD
[17:43] <Kromag> WDLabs
[17:43] <TheLostAdmin> I don't know how you would optimize a hard drive for the Raspberry Pi, unless they mean don't bother making it faster than a USB 2 interface. Although the shared power supply and funky case are nice.
[17:44] <Kromag> actually they made it for usb 3.0
[17:44] <Kromag> which is useless
[17:44] <GRiZL0C> pi drive works with the gpio pin?
[17:44] <roadHockeyKing> Ok, the sharing power would be nice. Otherwise, I just use my regular external HDD. Is it a USB connection, if not that could be nice tomaw
[17:44] <Kromag> it's USB
[17:44] <Kromag> also you can get a specially made enclosure for it
[17:44] <Kromag> for like 10 usd
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[17:45] <roadHockeyKing> How it different than any other external HDD besides the shared power?
[17:45] <Kromag> the enclosure holds the Pi and the Drive
[17:45] <Kromag> I don't even share the power
[17:45] <Kromag> to afraid with my usb mouse and keyboard that there won't be enough
[17:45] <Kromag> I don't want to mess up the Pi
[17:45] <Kromag> so I have seperate PSU
[17:46] <Kromag> oh and the PiDrive is 314GiB
[17:46] <Kromag> lol
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[17:46] <Kromag> for the Pi number
[17:46] <Kromag> kind of retarded
[17:46] <Kromag> but it was only 34 usd
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[17:48] <Gallomimia> if you don't want to share power for USB get a powered hub
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[17:49] <roadHockeyKing> You can get a 1TB for around $50
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[17:56] <Kromag> It's not powered via usb
[17:56] <Kromag> it has it's own seperate power
[17:56] <Kromag> but it has a setup to power the Pi
[17:56] <Kromag> which I choose not doing
[17:56] <Kromag> cause it's not enough power
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[17:57] <Kromag> I looked it all up and people were having trouble with it (prior to me setting mine up)
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[18:12] <Smeef> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO2-tqoyGik
[18:13] <tommy``> anyone use pi-hole?
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[18:15] <Emil> Hmm
[18:15] <Emil> So I used this guide to use the pi as usb device
[18:15] <Emil> https://gist.github.com/gbaman/975e2db164b3ca2b51ae11e45e8fd40a
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[18:15] <Emil> But I can't ssh into it through raspberrypi.local
[18:15] <Emil> Any suggestions?
[18:16] <fluffet> tommy``: i do ^^
[18:17] <tommy``> fluffet during install which upstream provider you choose?
[18:17] <tommy``> default is google
[18:17] <fluffet> uh, google i think
[18:17] <fluffet> im not sure =D
[18:17] <fluffet> default everything apart from static ip which you have to set manually
[18:17] <normalra> Emil: are you on windows or a linux distro?
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[18:18] <Emil> normalra: debian
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[18:18] <Emil> normalra: the device shows up in ifconfig as usb0
[18:18] <Emil> but has no associated ip
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[18:19] <normalra> Emil: yeah, you could run a local dhcpcd server on either your host or the pi, or set up a static ip for both.
[18:19] <normalra> static ip would be the best :)
[18:20] <Emil> normalra: hngh, so much trouble using a static ip
[18:20] <Emil> normalra: How can I get the pi to give me an ip for the interface?
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[18:20] <Emil> or, wait, the other way around
[18:20] <Emil> how can I run a dhcp on the pi?
[18:21] <Emil> (I will also, in the end, share network with the pi through my host machine)
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[18:23] <normalra> i assume you have keyboard and screen access to the pizero?
[18:23] <Emil> normalra: no
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[18:26] <normalra> so is editing the sdcard your only option at the moment?
[18:27] <Emil> normalra: yes
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[18:28] <normalra> welp, at that point i think doing a static config first to be able to ssh in would be preferable.
[18:29] <Emil> normalra: okay
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[18:29] <normalra> not sure whether raspbian has a dhcp server on it, maybe someone knows?
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[18:30] <Emil> normalra: any guides you know work?
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[18:32] <Emil> normalra: I tried adding a static config but ifup usb0 says RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[18:32] <normalra> Emil: i think almost any for setting up a static ip should do it.
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[18:32] <normalra> Emil: on the pi?
[18:33] <Emil> normalra: on my host machine
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[18:34] <normalra> Emil: what does `ip a show dev usb0` show? use a pastebin :)
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[18:35] <Emil> normalra: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4e824560d229df7af91307799d6d5348
[18:36] <normalra> hm, seems like something already configured that.
[18:36] <Emil> normalra: should I try to restart network interfaces?
[18:37] <normalra> no need, if that is the device that shows up then you can use it as is.
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[18:39] <normalra> now you want to set-up a static ip on your zero, you can use an address like :)
[18:39] <Emil> normalra: I accidentally gave my pi broadcast address but tried again with ifconfig usb0
[18:40] <Emil> but it says connectiong reset by peer
[18:40] <Emil> and ssh pi@raspberrypi.local hangs forever
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[18:41] <normalra> Emil: yeah, you might want to sudo ip a del the wrong one.
[18:42] <Emil> normalra: Ah, so the pi gave me that address
[18:42] <Emil> how can I the pi's address
[18:43] <normalra> uhh, now i'm a bit confused. the usb0 interface is on the host or the pi? or both?
[18:43] <Emil> normalra: host
[18:44] <Emil> do I try to edit the files on the pi?
[18:44] <normalra> and it has an address of
[18:44] <Emil> through the sd card?
[18:44] <Emil> normalra: everything I have done so far is on my host machine
[18:44] <normalra> yep, /etc/network/interfaces iirc
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[18:45] <Emil> normalra: so what do I edit, then?
[18:45] <Emil> And where?
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[18:45] <normalra> my previous message, /etc/network/interfaces
[18:46] <Emil> normalra: on which machine
[18:46] <normalra> the sdcard
[18:47] <normalra> be sure to change eth0 to usb0
[18:48] <Emil> normalra: so on "iface eth0 inet manual" eth0 -> usb0
[18:48] <Emil> or what?
[18:48] <normalra> yup
[18:48] <Emil> normalra: anything else?
[18:48] <Emil> (and how about static? What
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[18:48] <Emil> 's the difference)
[18:48] <normalra> actually, if you follow https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration, you want 'iface eth0 inet static
[18:49] <normalra> so iface et0 inet static
[18:49] <normalra> oops
[18:49] <normalra> usb0 :)
[18:49] <Emil> normalra: thought so
[18:49] <Emil> normalra: is adding just address fine or do I add something else, too?
[18:50] <normalra> if you want network connectivity on the pi, you want to set the gateway to be which is your host machine
[18:50] <Emil> normalra: can I automate that?
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[18:51] <Emil> (also adding allow-howplug usb0 would be beneficial, right?)
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[18:52] <normalra> sure
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[18:53] <normalra> so it would look like: https://ptpb.pw/~normalra
[18:54] <Emil> normalra: no way to automate that gateway?
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[18:54] <normalra> i'm not sure what do you mean by that?
[18:54] <Emil> normalra: if I take it to another machine which doesn't have that ip
[18:54] <normalra> yep, but automating the gateway would require a dhcp server.
[18:55] <Emil> normalra: couldn't I simply try all the 255 ips?
[18:55] <normalra> Emil: nope.
[18:55] <Emil> normalra: why not?
[18:56] <normalra> Emil: i do not know, but i imagine it is a limitation of the kernel? you're basically setting a default route via <gateway>.
[18:57] <Emil> normalra: okay, so usb0 on my host machine has no ip at anywhere
[18:57] <Emil> do I edit my host /etc/network/interfaces file, too?
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[18:57] <normalra> yep. don't forget to change the address to
[18:58] <Emil> normalra: so what do I put there, then?
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[18:59] <normalra> if the interface is usb0, the same, but without the gateway part, and with the address changed.
[18:59] <Emil> normalra: answers with RTNETLINK file exists
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[19:00] <normalra> Emil: try ip a flush dev usb0
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[19:00] <Emil> normalra: still says same
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[19:01] <normalra> Emil: does `ip route` have the device mentioned?
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[19:03] <Emil> normalra: dev usb0 proto kernel scope link src
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[19:04] <normalra> okay, so you're restarting the network service and that message occurs, right? in that case execute both 'ip a flush dev usb0' and 'ip route flush dev usb0'.
[19:05] <Emil> normalra: restarting?
[19:05] <normalra> Emil: yeah, you're editing the /etc/network/interfaces, aren't you?
[19:05] <Emil> normalra: I am
[19:05] <normalra> so how do you get 'answers with RTNETLINK file exists'?
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[19:05] <Emil> normalra: with ifup
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[19:06] <normalra> ah, i see. does it still say that after you flush both?
[19:07] <Emil> normalra: yes
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[19:07] <Emil> sudo ip a flush dev usb0 && sudo ip route flush dev usb0 && sudo ifup usb0
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[19:07] <normalra> hm, that's strange. can you confirm the inteface has an address?
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[19:08] <Emil> normalra: sure, lemme do a paste
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[19:09] <normalra> include `ip route show dev usb0` too, please :)
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[19:10] <simoneb> my raspberry pi 3 model b blinks the green light eight times at boot... I can't get past rainbow screen. help?
[19:10] <simoneb> I read somewhere that I need a firmware update, is that correct?
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[19:12] <up2late> you just have raspbian on there?
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[19:13] <simoneb> yes I have raspbian
[19:13] <simoneb> well what do you mean with "just" raspbian? I also have software on it
[19:14] <normalra> Emil: actually, if you could paste just 'ip a && ip route' that wolud be great.
[19:14] <up2late> no berryboot or anything?
[19:14] <simoneb> I installed & configured emulation station and I'd very much prefer not to do it over
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[19:14] <simoneb> berryboot... no
[19:14] <up2late> did it start after you installed ES?
[19:14] <simoneb> what is ES?
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[19:15] <up2late> emulation station
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[19:15] <simoneb> ah emulation station. yes it is the same sd card I used on a raspi0, but I was not amazed at the performances and upgraded to a raspi3
[19:15] <simoneb> it works on the raspi0
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[19:16] <up2late> can you ssh or ftp into it?
[19:16] <simoneb> no, it doesn't boot
[19:16] <Emil> normalra: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/74c8f28b778688762d758840c55464c3
[19:16] <simoneb> i can boot with the raspi0 and ssh in it
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[19:17] <up2late> hmm
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[19:17] <simoneb> should I apt-get dist-upgrade?
[19:17] <simoneb> or maybe just update
[19:17] <normalra> Emil: yes, i see what the issue is. on the pizero, the address has to be, it has to be different.
[19:17] <Emil> normalra: then sudo ifup usb0 gives ifup: interface usb0 already configured and ssh pi@ gives ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
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[19:18] <Emil> normalra: different from what?
[19:18] <normalra> Emil: different from the host
[19:18] <up2late> i would try that simoneb
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[19:18] <Emil> normalra: my host ip and I checked using arp-scan that there was no other device by that ip
[19:18] <simoneb> up2late: ok thanks, I'm trying
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[19:18] <normalra> Emil: okay, let's do this one by one.
[19:18] <up2late> if that doesnt work i would just redo the whole sd card with rpi3 software
[19:19] <Emil> normalra: sure (thank you for taking the time)
[19:20] <normalra> Emil: two network interfaces shouldn't have the same subnet, which is something like: that is the subnet (with 254 addresses + 1 for broadcast)
[19:21] <normalra> Emil: so, you can't have both eth0 and usb0 having 192.168.123.xx/24.
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[19:21] <normalra> Emil: so, the next best subnet would be 192.168.124.xx/24, and that is the one you should use for usb0
[19:22] <normalra> Emil: i will give you a paste on how the config should look like, just a moment
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[19:23] <Emil> normalra: okay, thank you
[19:24] <normalra> Emil: here it is: https://ptpb.pw/~normalra
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[19:26] <pwillard> tl;dr... normalra is building a router?
[19:26] <Emil> normalra: wait
[19:26] <Emil> is that for the pi?
[19:27] <normalra> pwillard: :p
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[19:27] <normalra> Emil: uh, both! --- divides the two :)
[19:28] <Emil> ...
[19:28] <Emil> normalra: your paste only has one part?
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[19:28] <pwillard> yeah, meant to type emil
[19:28] <Emil> https://ptpb.pw/~normalra only has a single config
[19:28] <normalra> Emil: sounds like aggressive browser cache, try ctrl+shift+r
[19:28] <Emil> normalra: yeah, was that
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[19:35] <Emil> normalra: yeah, it worked : )
[19:36] <normalra> you can ssh in?
[19:36] <Emil> normalra: yeah : )
[19:36] <normalra> okay, now you probably don't have network connectivity on the pizero
[19:36] <normalra> yet
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[19:37] <Emil> normalra: nope
[19:37] <SyncYourDogmas> but ssh works?
[19:37] <Emil> SyncYourDogmas: yes, but it is local ssh
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[19:37] <Emil> normalra: so how can I make this process automatic for most systems?
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[19:38] <SyncYourDogmas> you must be on the LAN though at least
[19:38] <normalra> Emil: for connection you'll need iptables and ipforward enabled
[19:38] <Emil> normalra: talk to me, master
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[19:40] <obihann> Does the pi b1 have enough power to run RPi-Cam-Web-Interface?
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[19:41] <normalra> Emil: hm, do you have sysctl installed?
[19:41] <Emil> normalra: on my host machine?
[19:41] <normalra> Emil: yea
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[19:41] <Emil> normalra: yes
[19:41] <Emil> (but I
[19:41] <Emil> 'd rather have it work on any machine)
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[19:42] <normalra> Emil: i don't think that would work. per-machine only :)
[19:43] <Emil> normalra: how about dhcp on rpizr?
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[19:44] <Emil> Also, what is GPIO server in raspi-config
[19:44] <normalra> that will get pi-host communication going, but no giving network access to random interfaces willy-nilly.
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[19:44] <Emil> normalra: damn : /
[19:45] <Joric> how much rpi2 now cost?
[19:45] <normalra> so, for each host you'd need to 'sudo sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward=1' and 'sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE'
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[19:45] <Emil> normalra: but that is still better than having to config a static ip every time
[19:45] <Emil> and sharing internet to the interface can be done later
[19:45] <Emil> normalra: is that usb0?
[19:46] <normalra> Emil: nope, i noticed you you're connecting over eth0 on your host, right?
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[19:46] <normalra> Emil: the -o <interface> is the interface that provides you with network access :)
[19:46] <normalra> on the host
[19:46] <Emil> ah
[19:47] <Joric> figures rpi2 is $35 and rpi3 (10x faster) is about $40, is that right?
[19:47] <Emil> Joric: eh? rpi3 isn't 10x faster
[19:47] <normalra> Emil: also, i agree that dhcp is best solution but we did the dance to get internet connectivity going so you can update and then install packages :)
[19:48] <Joric> Emil, well still, i was expecting rpi2 for $10 or something
[19:48] <Emil> Joric: unfortunately the price doesn't fall that fast : (
[19:49] <Emil> normalra: Okay, so do you have a suggestion to installing dhcp?
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[19:49] <normalra> Emil: sure, here's the basics: https://wiki.debian.org/DHCP_Server
[19:49] <Joric> yeah, not 10x just 1.6x in geekbench
[19:50] <normalra> Emil: the package should be 'isc-dhcp-server'
[19:50] <Emil> normalra: usb0 no longer comes up
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[19:50] <Joric> i was going to make an arduino-based robot but computer vision sucks on arduinos
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[19:50] <normalra> Emil: uh oh.
[19:50] <normalra> Emil: did you reboot the pi or something? :p
[19:51] <Emil> normalra: I did
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[19:51] <normalra> Emil: yeah, it should be back up again when the pi finishes booting.
[19:51] <Emil> normalra: waited ~3mins
[19:52] <Emil> normalra: actually 5ish minutes
[19:52] <Emil> normalra: and before it used to come up right away
[19:52] <normalra> Emil: yeah, that's bad. you might want to take out the card and check https://gist.github.com/gbaman/975e2db164b3ca2b51ae11e45e8fd40a
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[19:53] <obihann> on my rpi I can get rpi-cam-web-interface to run for about 5 minutes then my system locks up and I can't even ssh anymore... I have lxde disabled so I'm wondering if I need the pib?
[19:53] <normalra> did you update or something?
[19:53] <Emil> normalra: nope, not yet
[19:53] <obihann> was hoping to run it on the pi zero but am worried that might not be enough now
[19:53] <Emil> I simply enabled interfaces on the raspi-config
[19:54] <Emil> normalra: spi, i2c, uart and camera
[19:54] <Emil> also changed hostname
[19:54] <Emil> but nothing else
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[19:54] <obihann> would overclocking help any?
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[19:55] <normalra> maybe it overwrote the configs and removed dwc2? :)
[19:55] <Emil> normalra: hmm, that would be strange but let me check
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[19:56] <Emil> normalra: dtoverlay=dwc2 is still there, but after it is start_x (wtf why? I didn't enabled that one), gpu_mem=128 and enable_uart=1
[19:57] <normalra> the rasp-config did that most likely.
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[19:59] <Emil> normalra: still nothing
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[20:01] <normalra> Emil: sorry, haven't got a clue :/
[20:01] <Emil> normalra: shieeet
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[20:02] <normalra> now you know not to mess with raspi-config :D
[20:02] <Emil> normalra: come on :D
[20:02] <Emil> That's just silly
[20:03] <normalra> what about cmdline.txt?
[20:03] <Emil> normalra: looks as expected
[20:03] <normalra> Emil: hm, try disabling uart for the time being. do you even use that one?
[20:03] <Emil> normalra: wait, wfc_otg.lpm_enable=1
[20:03] <Emil> should that one be 1?
[20:03] <Emil> dwc*
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[20:04] <normalra> Emil: beats me, Try Changing It And See™
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[20:05] <Emil> normalra: by the way, raspi-config said that I can't overlock rpi zero
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[20:05] <normalra> well, it does have a higher clock speed than the original pi. win-win?
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[20:06] <Emil> normalra: in config.txt, there is a line commented out which says: "uncomment to overclock the arm. 700MHz is the default.\n #arm_freq=800
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[20:08] <Chillum> anyone know how long it takes to make a 2048 bit long safe prime DH key on a pi 2?
[20:08] <Emil> Chillum: a couple minutes probably
[20:09] <Chillum> been 20 minutes so far so hopefully soon
[20:09] <Chillum> of course since it is going through random numbers the duration it has worked so far does not effect how long it will take from now
[20:09] <Chillum> it just says "This is going to take a long time"
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[20:10] <normalra> Emil: hm?
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[20:12] <Chillum> aww openssl is only using 1 of 4 cores, that is lame
[20:12] <Chillum> considering it is a very parallel-able problem
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[20:13] <Emil> normalra: exactly like I said
[20:13] <Emil> anycase, usb0 doesn't show up in ifconfig anymore
[20:13] <Emil> even after uncommenting out uart, spi and so forth
[20:14] <normalra> time to connect the pi to a monitor?
[20:14] <Rexodus> Chillum: hou jij 'm vast, geef ik je vuur.
[20:14] <normalra> wut
[20:15] <Chillum> rot13 I think
[20:15] <Chillum> nope
[20:15] <Emil> normalra: if only I had the mini hdmi adapter : D
[20:15] <Rexodus> :)
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[20:15] <Chillum> dutch, sounds like rot13
[20:15] <normalra> Emil: awww, i have one i don't use :p
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[20:15] <Emil> ...
[20:15] <Emil> helps me exactly zero there ; )
[20:15] <Emil> anycase
[20:16] <Emil> I disconnected the usb and now it is back
[20:16] <Emil> strange
[20:16] <Emil> (disconnected only the usb port to computer while leaving it plugged in to power)
[20:17] <Rexodus> https://www.google.nl/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=chillum&oq=chillum&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2663j0j9
[20:17] <Emil> normalra: (you can also ship me the adapter ; D)
[20:17] <normalra> Emil: no, i'll e-mail it to you!
[20:17] <Chillum> ya, my name on google... neat
[20:17] <Emil> normalra: anycase, ping google.fi says unknown host
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[20:17] <Emil> normalra: even though I have not rebooted my host machine
[20:17] <Rexodus> haha
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[20:18] <Chillum> ahh fire for pipe. I get it
[20:18] <Chillum> sorta
[20:18] <normalra> Emil: was it working before?
[20:18] <Emil> normalra: didn't test it before
[20:18] <Rexodus> Yah man!
[20:18] <Emil> normalra: but I can ping the machines in my host localnet
[20:18] <Emil> by ip
[20:18] <normalra> Emil: well, that's a start. can you ping an ip address?
[20:19] <xEBIx> Hello, I want to put together a Boot SD Card for my Raspberry PI 3. Which files do I need?
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[20:19] <normalra> Emil: as in
[20:19] <Emil> normalra: yeah
[20:19] <xEBIx> in /boot Fat 32 partition?
[20:19] <ikonia> xEBIx: it's documented on the reaspberry pi website
[20:19] <normalra> Emil: sounds like a dns issue. do you have dig installed?
[20:19] <Rexodus> No bot with standard replies?
[20:19] <xEBIx> OK, fine, but that doesnt work...
[20:20] <Emil> normalra: dnsutils doesn't come preinstalled on debians : (
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[20:20] <Emil> on my host machine I do have it
[20:20] <normalra> Emil: awww
[20:20] <Rexodus> !dns
[20:20] <normalra> Emil: maybe this will help: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Defining_the_.28DNS.29_Nameservers
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[20:21] <Rexodus> !test
[20:21] <normalra> tl;dr in /etc/resolv.conf add 'nameserver <dns of preference>'
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[20:21] <xEBIx> I have got bootcode.bin cmdline.txt fixup.dat kernel7.img start.elf from https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware in my boot partition. But nothing.
[20:22] <normalra> it might get overwritten though, so reading the whole thing would be best
[20:22] <Rexodus> !rtfm dns
[20:22] <Rexodus> kutbot
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[20:23] <normalra> bot is protesting for better working conditions.
[20:23] <Rexodus> I know, somehow ;]
[20:24] <Rexodus> However! Time for a QQA
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[20:25] <Emil> normalra thank you! : )
[20:25] <Emil> Aww, you quit
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[20:25] <Rexodus> Habbie: You know what I bedoel :)
[20:25] <Emil> hey you are back
[20:26] <Habbie> Rexodus, 'kutbot' is geen gepast taalgebruik hier
[20:26] <Rexodus> Nog steeds boos?
[20:26] <normalra> ouch
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[20:27] <Emil> normalra: thank you : )
[20:28] <normalra> Emil: any time, have fun with the pi! :)
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[20:32] <curlyears> heigh hough
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[20:32] <ozzzy> howdy
[20:32] <curlyears> ozzzy!!!!!!
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[20:42] <curlyears> \does anyone know if the Pi3 is gutsy enough to run a voice recognnitioon package and manage to control some external devices (low data rate) at the same time?
[20:43] <curlyears> oh, a voice recognition package under ubuntu?
[20:43] <nebadon> the cpu is definitely good enough
[20:43] <nebadon> but memory may be an issue
[20:43] <Gallomimia> they exist yes
[20:43] <nebadon> i would say in theory it should be able to though
[20:43] <Gallomimia> im also pretty interested in that question
[20:43] <nebadon> considering most android phones can do this
[20:44] <nebadon> its very similar hardware/memory
[20:44] <Gallomimia> do they actually run voice recognition, or pipe it out to an external server like apple?
[20:44] <stiv> Berg was using a web-based service for speech to text. don't know the details
[20:44] <nebadon> hmm thats a good question I am not actually sure about that
[20:44] <Gallomimia> SaaSS :( stallman would slap you
[20:45] <nebadon> I imagine they are capable of both i guess its just a matter of latency though
[20:45] <nebadon> how fast you need it to happen
[20:45] <Habbie> most android phones pipe it to google
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[20:45] <Habbie> and can do a subset locally, like the people in your phonebook
[20:45] <Habbie> as i recall it
[20:45] <nebadon> ya there are also some voice to text apps i recall
[20:45] <Gallomimia> but... the people in your phonebook is what google wants to know about!
[20:45] <nebadon> those must do it locally to some extent
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[20:47] <Gallomimia> anyway, ubuntu has a library for both speech to text and text to speech
[20:47] <Gallomimia> how much power it uses i cannot say
[20:47] <Gallomimia> but... i can say that my PPC75mhz used to do speech recognition commands. why can't a multicore ghz+ arm chip?
[20:47] <curlyears> nebadon: yeah, memmory capacity is what I'm worried about. I am still trying to find out what the size of the linux image is in memory
[20:47] <nebadon> there is an app in google store called "Speech to Text" doesnt require network permissions
[20:47] <curlyears> ubuntu liniux, specifically
[20:48] <nebadon> depends on on how well you strip it down i suppose
[20:48] <nebadon> you should have atleast 700mb memory free
[20:48] <nebadon> running headless with no services
[20:48] <curlyears> nebadon: I should have? Meaning what, if IO strip ubuntui to it's core? If I just sit with a default install?
[20:49] <nebadon> you could in theory enable swap get the fastest SD card you can
[20:49] <nebadon> if your running Snappy Ubuntu Core you might get more
[20:49] <nebadon> than stock raspbian
[20:50] <curlyears> I have a problem. SD cards are so small, and my hands are so clumsy, i keep losing the dad bratted things
[20:50] <nebadon> lol
[20:50] <nebadon> ive shot a few across the room with that damn spring
[20:51] <nebadon> one of my cases has a small gap where the card slot is too few times i had to disassemble the damn thing to get it out
[20:51] <curlyears> one of the fuses in my 3D printer control box blew, and they're microfuses. About the size of an 0805 resistor. I can't really see well enough to get the replacement fuse in
[20:51] <nebadon> tweezers and magnifying goggles
[20:52] <curlyears> one of the first things i plan to print with the 3D printer is a nice case fr my Pi3.
[20:52] <curlyears> nebadon: tweezers? really? my hands shake like a leaf when I am calm and relaxed, when I am stressed it s unbelieveable\
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[20:53] <nebadon> lol
[20:53] <nebadon> http://www.amazon.com/SE-MH1047L-Illuminated-Multi-Power-Magnifier/dp/B003UCODIA?ie=UTF8&keywords=magnifying%20visor&qid=1465325568&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
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[20:53] <nebadon> http://www.amazon.com/Wooden-Camera-900079-Rubber-Tweezers/dp/B01AIPR32O?ie=UTF8&keywords=rubber%20tip%20tweezers&qid=1465325603&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
[20:53] <curlyears> nebadon: thanksd for the link, but that presumes I have any $$$ to s[end
[20:53] <nebadon> that is true :)
[20:54] <nebadon> they are not to expensive though
[20:54] <nebadon> less than 20$
[20:54] <nebadon> for the set
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[21:17] <Voop> noob question - what does it mean when a module has a 'shield'
[21:17] <Bilby> shield = HAT
[21:18] <Bilby> at least i'd assume so. a piece of hardware that connects up to the pi
[21:18] <Voop> oh so its set up to go on a bed of nails
[21:19] <Bilby> usually it means it's a board designed to plug into the GPIO and sit on top of the Pi
[21:19] <Bilby> examples of HATs: https://www.adafruit.com/categories/405
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[21:21] <Voop> that makes sense
[21:21] <Voop> thanks
[21:22] <Bilby> ya welcome
[21:22] <Voop> i dont need no stupid hat
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[21:38] <pksato> https://youtu.be/VKJ1h6ThW3Y?t=28m57s
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[21:39] <Bilby> daaaave!
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[21:46] <pksato> I have a idea to build some similar to rpi, but no money. :P http://www.gtronics.net/en/products/arduino-proto-shield-plus
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[21:52] <AndreeeCZ> Hi
[21:52] <AndreeeCZ> What's up with RPi zero
[21:53] <AndreeeCZ> like.. is it even on ?
[21:53] <simoneb> what do you mean?
[21:53] <AndreeeCZ> can i buy it somewhere?
[21:54] <traeak> microcenter
[21:55] <simoneb> I'm decommissioning one
[21:55] <simoneb> it's too slow as a nintendo emulator
[21:55] <pksato> Ohh... for free https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/
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[22:09] <Kromag> AndreeeCZ, they keep getting sold out/
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[22:12] <In3rti4> How much the new version of RaspberryPi cost in your country?
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[22:14] <Kromag> 35
[22:14] <Kromag> 5 for piZero
[22:14] <In3rti4> Dollars?
[22:15] <yene> kisses
[22:15] <Kromag> yen
[22:15] <Kromag> of course dollars
[22:15] <Kromag> I'm from America there is only Bitcoins and Dollars
[22:15] <Kromag> nothing else exists
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[22:16] <In3rti4> I'm from Europe,so we have Euro --for now--
[22:16] <Kromag> what's that
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[22:18] <curlyears> Kromag: the Euro is an international money developed by and for the European Union,. to try to standardize pricing across all of Europe
[22:18] <curlyears> how well it is or isn't doing that job is a highly debated issue in Europe
[22:19] <Kromag> it was actually doing quite well I heard
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[22:20] <curlyears> there is apparently an appreciable number of very vocal people who would disagree vehemtnly with that evaluation, Kromag
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[22:21] <Kromag> well when I watch HGTV sometimes cause I am bed-ridden(health-issues) I notice the conversion is better for the Euro holder
[22:21] <In3rti4> curlyears: exactly...I'm from Greece,so you know...
[22:22] <Bilby> I feel bad for Greece a bit
[22:23] <Bilby> it's like, drug addict was given drugs for cheap or free for years
[22:23] <Kromag> huh?
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[22:23] <Bilby> but now his dealer says no, you have to clean up with no help and make these huge payments too or else you get kneecapped
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[22:24] <In3rti4> Bilby: The big issue with Greece is that the people took no money,and our politicians did all the party!
[22:25] <Bilby> unfortunately I don't know much about the internal workings of Greece, most news groups treat it as a single entity kind of thing
[22:25] <Bilby> but that makes sense, airports in the middle of nowhere etc etc
[22:26] <Bilby> but lots of private people got huge loans for properties and such too... regardless, it's a mess
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[22:26] <Bilby> and starving the country in return for a loan is the worst kind of sharking
[22:27] <curlyears> Bilby: welcome to the way things are done at World Bank
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[22:27] <In3rti4> Bilby: You are right... Simple people can't take their own money from the banks. You can take only 420 euros per week. Chaos!
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[22:29] <Bilby> it must be horrible to be in it, but it's an interesting experiment - how do you take a place with no economy and make one up
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[22:30] <In3rti4> Bilby: and you have to calculate the Refugee crisis which extremely affects Greece.
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[22:31] <Bilby> that's an entire other huge problem
[22:31] <Bilby> europe should hire the entire country of greece as an intake / naturalization center
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[22:33] <In3rti4> Bilby: Europe should try to stop the war. Everyday,Syrian kids dying in our seas. UN have to take place, and it doesn't have to do with Greece.
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[22:34] <Bilby> I wish them luck, between Assad, Russia, and ISIS it's going to end up as another Somalia
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[22:36] <In3rti4> You are really up to date, where are you from?
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[22:39] <Voop> we'll be sure to stir the pot
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[22:41] <simoneb> my raspi3 is still blinking the green light 8 times... no boot, just rainbow screen. I just updated everything to the latest packages... any clues?
[22:41] <simoneb> it boots fine on the raspi0, same sd card
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[22:43] <curlyears> simoneb: hate to say it, but it sounds like you either have a bad Pi3, or there is a piece of paper or some other debris in your SD card socket interfering with your bootup
[22:43] <simoneb> lets see
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[22:44] <Voop> or its not getting enough power
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[22:45] <curlyears> I have this 27" monitor that supports HDMI, DisplayPort and VGA, but I can't figure out how to activate the hdmi port. It doesn't just auto-switch when it sees data on the piort
[22:46] <curlyears> and until i can get that working, I can't try my Pi3 or my Pi2
[22:46] <curlyears> \loop: excellent point. BVut would the LEDS light up and flash if there were insufficient power?
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[22:47] <simoneb> maybe it's the power? the power adapter was fine for the raspi0 but it is smallish
[22:47] <simoneb> I think it is an iphone2 charger I had lying around (yes)
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[22:47] <simoneb> with.. uh... some chinese usb cord I think
[22:47] <curlyears> simoneb: that sounds like it's the problem. The Pi3 does take considerably more juice than a Pi0, especially if you have stuff hanging off the USB ports
[22:48] <simoneb> well lets try with the fancy one with quick charge 2.0 and everything
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[22:49] <Voop> i power my zero with a chinese usb hub that backfeeds
[22:50] <Voop> i dont even need anything plugged into the power port
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[22:50] <simoneb> with the fancy power adapter it does the same green light blinking eight times BUT it also keeps the red light on
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[22:53] <simoneb> I used this one https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B015E6FP6I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ... rated for 2A apparently
[22:53] <simoneb> but that should be enough afaik
[22:55] <simoneb> here http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Green_LED_blinks_in_a_specific_pattern it says that 8 blinks means "SDRAM not recognised. You need newer bootcode.bin/start.elf firmware."
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[22:56] <curlyears> simoneb: while they're supposed to be fully compatibile, the Pi3 *IS* based on a different chipset than the Pi0 or the Pi2.
[22:56] <simoneb> so... reinstall from scratch?
[22:57] <curlyears> simoneb:hat might work, yeah.
[22:57] <curlyears> sowwy
[22:57] <simoneb> maybe I could rewrite just the bootloader?
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[22:58] <curlyears> that I don't know enough about to help you, sorry
[22:59] <up2late> i would start from scratch
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[22:59] <up2late> youre using it for retro gaming correct?
[23:00] <simoneb> yes
[23:00] <up2late> i would /j #retropie
[23:01] <up2late> my advice is start over again, but they made have another option for you
[23:01] <simoneb> buuut it's a hardware/bootloader issue
[23:01] <simoneb> let's try...
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[23:01] <up2late> the guys who wrote emulation station are in there
[23:02] <mfa298> simoneb: could be worth grabbing the latest rasbian image (if that's what you're using) and putting on an sd card.
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[23:03] <up2late> ^^ thats how i run mine
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[23:03] <mfa298> could be worth trying the latest raspbian anyway as that at least might show if the Pi3 is ok
[23:03] <simoneb> yea i'm downloading the latest raspbian, I wanted to avoid erasing everything, but i'll try that as a last resource
[23:04] <mfa298> depending on what release of raspbian you're current card is based off you might need more than just updating to work on the Pi3
[23:04] <simoneb> shouldn't it be the same OS?
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[23:05] <up2late> they have a version for pi3
[23:05] <simoneb> aw
[23:05] <mfa298> there's two main versions of Rasbian, Wheezy and Jessie. Only Jessie has the updates for the Pi3 (wheezy is legacy)
[23:05] <simoneb> so what am I even downloading? O_O
[23:05] <simoneb> ok it's jessie
[23:06] <simoneb> can't remember what was on the raspi0, but I did a apt-get dist-upgrade before switching
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[23:06] <mfa298> you can check by looking at the output of: cat /etc/debian_version
[23:06] <mfa298> 7.x is wheezy, 8.x is Jessie
[23:07] <simoneb> lets see
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[23:12] <simoneb> 8.0
[23:13] <mfa298> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade should be enough to get what you need for the Pi3 then
[23:14] <simoneb> I already tried that
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[23:18] <Ascavasaion> is Raspbian the best or most common OS for the Raspberry Pi model B? Or is here another one that you guys cold suggest?
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[23:18] <simoneb> retropie :X
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[23:22] <Ascavasaion> simoneb: Let me have a looksie.
[23:23] <mfa298> Ascavasaion: raspbian is what the majority of people use so it's likely the best if you're just starting out
[23:24] <curlyears> mfa298: I was under the impression that ubuntu is pretty heavily used in the Raspberry Pi COmmunity?
[23:25] <curlyears> I know I want to use it becvause it's what I use on my high powered desktop
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[23:25] <mfa298> curlyears: I'm not sure many people use it, just a vocal set of people
[23:26] <Ascavasaion> simoneb: :)
[23:26] <Ascavasaion> mfa298: Thank you... I thought as much.
[23:26] <mfa298> I think Ubuntu has only recently become supported (and I'm not sure it's official ubuntu or some spin)
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[23:28] <ams__> Any easy ways to connect to wifi on the command line? Ideally without editing config files
[23:28] <curlyears> mfa: and, supposedly, there will be a Pi3 version of Ubuntu64 soon
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[23:29] <Valduare> curlyears: doesnt ubuntu - mate already have that?
[23:30] <curlyears> Valdure: well, MATE is developing it. Last *I* heard, it was still pending, but it may be out now, I dunno..havent checked in about a week
[23:32] <mfa298> I think a full 64bit distro is dependant on firmware from RPF though, so I don't know if an Ubuntu64 image would be full 64bit
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[23:32] <marcelod> Hi there
[23:33] <ozzzy> why would anyone want to put a 64 bit distro on a pi
[23:33] <marcelod> is there any touchscreen I can connect to the RPi Zero?
[23:33] <curlyears> ozzzy: what's the point of a 64bit CPU on a Pi3 withouty a 64bit distrto to run on it?
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[23:34] <ozzzy> what advantage does a 64bit distro have with the low memory limit
[23:34] <curlyears> it'll still run your programs a little bit faster
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[23:35] <mfa298> people have been runnign 32bit OSes on 64bit CPUs for a long time. Most intel chips have been 64bit for 10+ years, but it's only recently the majority of peopel are running a 64bit os
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[23:36] <ozzzy> all the benchmarks I've seen have shown 64 bit usersapce apps running a bit slower on the same hardware
[23:37] <ozzzy> that may have changed over the years LOL
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[23:38] <curlyears> packages that have been compiled for 32 bit still run on 64 bits, but not as efficiently. Packages that are specifically compiled tobe 64 bit will run faster
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[23:38] <curlyears> than ther 32 bit compiled version
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[23:39] <TwistedFate> Hi everyone
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[23:39] <curlyears> TwistedOne
[23:39] <ozzzy> curlyears, perhaps some
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[23:40] <mfa298> that's potentially architecture dependant.
[23:40] <ozzzy> yep
[23:40] <ozzzy> unless you need the expanded address space I don't see any advantage
[23:41] <curlyears> well, since they're almosat all x86 based, while our beloved Pis are ARM based, we'll have to wait and see
[23:41] <TwistedFate> How easy it is to setup Raspberry Pi 3 as a regular computer with GNU/Linux installed on it?
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[23:41] <mfa298> and on intel if you've compiled for 64bit you've potentially also got a more cpu optimized binary than a generic 32bit one
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[23:41] <mfa298> TwistedFate: get the raspban image and that's what it is
[23:41] <mfa298> TwistedFate: or most of the other images agailable for the Pi
[23:42] <TwistedFate> So basically, install GNU/Linux, connect keyboard/mouse and that's it?
[23:42] <curlyears> TwistedFate: if you connect an HDD or two to the USB ports, you'll harldy notice a fdifference between the Pi and a deaktop
[23:43] <curlyears> nope, you gotta connect the video too (*hee hee*). ANd for convenience sake, I'd hang a USB HDD offit
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[23:43] <TwistedFate> Hmm, I have no spare HDD's.. Would a memory card suffice?
[23:44] <mfa298> TwistedFate: you need to use an SD card for at least part of the boot process
[23:44] <ozzzy> curlyears, other than a modern desktop will run absolute rings around a Pi
[23:44] <ozzzy> LOL
[23:44] <mfa298> most setups just use the SD card
[23:44] <TwistedFate> I am thinking of getting a Pi to experiment with GNU/Linux and possibly make a "desktop" for my mom so she can surf and play light games..
[23:45] <curlyears> ozzzy: true enough...One reason I hate laptops is their slow doggoned processor speeds
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[23:46] <curlyears> it's an economical way to go, and I doubt your mom will notice that it isn't blazingly fast
[23:46] <curlyears> gotta go prepare a meal
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[23:46] <TwistedFate> Well she already is using an 2-3 years old android phone with single core cpu and 512ram which drags like crazy. I think Pi would be a space shuttle compared to it.
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[23:49] <simoneb> up2late, Ascavasaion: for now I call it a day... I got the retropie image for raspi3 and i'll be installing it asap (tomorrow/thursday) and see
[23:50] <simoneb> maybe I installed retropie for the raspi0... can't remember
[23:50] <simoneb> thanks for all the help
[23:51] <ozzzy> I buy the cheapest laptops on the shelf... I don't need horsepower
[23:52] <Ascavasaion> simoneb: Good luck and may it bring you lots of pleasure.
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[23:53] <ozzzy> my current laptop was < 400 new
[23:54] <ozzzy> no optical drive but it has 1TB of diskspace
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[23:55] <Mr-Frog> hey everybody
[23:56] <Mr-Frog> I had a question about the adafruit serial connector
[23:56] <Mr-Frog> Has anyone been able to get it to connect on Windows 10 computers?
[23:56] <Mr-Frog> I'm not seeing it in devices list
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