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IRC Log for 2016-06-10

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[0:00] <In4rtia> I'm a beginner programmer, and I wrote one Python Script,that I want to run it 24/7 every one hour. Do u thing is it ok?
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[0:00] <In4rtia> *think
[0:00] <mfa298> may depend on what your script does.
[0:01] <CharlesN> In4rtia, yes you need to profile your script
[0:01] <mfa298> but I've run Pi's 24/7 with no major issues
[0:01] <mfa298> although need to look at one as it's gone off the network :(
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[0:02] <stiv> In4rtia, create a cron job and feed your pi a nice steady diet of 5 volts
[0:03] * ShorTie Thinkz, Well put, feed your pi a nice steady diet of 5 volts
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[0:04] <In4rtia> hm, ok... The script, parsing the weather in a specific area,creates a database with it and if it's gonna rain,sending sms to several phones.. I believe it's gonna be ok with RaspberryPi...
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[0:04] <ShorTie> i do the same thing for my generator
[0:05] <In4rtia> What kind of generator?
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[0:05] <ShorTie> Perkins
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[0:05] <CharlesN> In4rtia, that should be ok, the only time that a rpi has died on my is compiling ports, running clojure
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[0:06] <niston> it amazes me how ppl shell out $84k for something that is nothing more but a bunch of text and rendered images
[0:07] <In4rtia> Shortie, maybe I'll try your idea with my generator... Very clever...
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[0:10] <stiv> twilio is nice for sending sms msgs
[0:11] <In4rtia> Yes I'm using this. Excellent, and easy.
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[0:12] <ShorTie> the pi checks the electric companies web site to see if it is gonna run or not, if it is to run it sends out a bunch of text telling folks
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[0:13] <ShorTie> cost a furtion if it doesn't run, lol.
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[0:54] <rZ_> hi all, i'm trying to use my pi zero as a usb webcam, can someone check over my commands to see if there's an issue? (not working so far) https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/4ndbzg/using_pi_zero_with_camera_as_usb_webcam/
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[0:59] <[Saint]> rZ_: can you check if you're user is a part of the 'video' group?
[0:59] <[Saint]> Oh, God. Sorry.
[0:59] <[Saint]> s/you're/your/g
[0:59] <[Saint]> That was horrible, uuugh.
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[1:00] <[Saint]> rZ_: and, do these commands work individually to bring the camera up for you, or is it just your init script that is failing to bring it up?
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[1:00] <[Saint]> ie. does it just plain not work at all, or does it only not work when you try to bring it up automatically via this init script?
[1:01] <rZ_> well i have no way of getting a terminal on the pi while after i set up the commands
[1:02] <rZ_> is the pi user part of the video group by default?
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[1:05] <[Saint]> I don't believe so.
[1:05] <[Saint]> also - why not?
[1:06] <[Saint]> use a screen session to mux multiple terminal sessions.
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[1:06] <rZ_> gadget mode means i can't use the usb port for anything other than whatever module i loaded (in this case g_webcam)
[1:07] <[Saint]> Oooooh, right.
[1:08] <[Saint]> yeah, crap, that's a pain in the bum.
[1:08] <[Saint]> your life you be infinitely easier with literally any other model of pi.
[1:08] <[Saint]> :-S
[1:09] <rZ_> gadget mode only works on devices with 1 usb port
[1:09] <rZ_> so pi zero or a+
[1:09] <[Saint]> I'm aware.
[1:10] <[Saint]> but there would be no need to use it on any of the other models.
[1:10] <rZ_> how?
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[1:12] <[Saint]> because you could very easily got a serial console right off the header if you wanted to, or in anything but the A/A+/Zero variants just use eth directly.
[1:12] <[Saint]> s/got/get/
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[1:14] <rZ_> even then i dont know if it would actually start a shell
[1:14] <[Saint]> why would it not?
[1:15] <rZ_> afaik if a startup script fails it'll complain
[1:16] <[Saint]> it will, but you should still get dropped into a shell.
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[1:17] <[Saint]> afaik for it to not drop you into a shell at that stage it would have needed to fail boot before init.d even takes place.
[1:17] <[Saint]> though I'm not 100% on that one.
[1:18] <rZ_> anyway i'd like to work with the zero for this, so within that constraint what can i do
[1:18] <[Saint]> But, yeah, it doesn't really do us much good talking about things you'd be able to do if you had hardware you didn't have, so, sorry - lol
[1:18] <niston> does gadget thingy allow you to create composite devices?
[1:19] <[Saint]> Is populating the GPIO header either partially (TX/RX) or in full an option for you, rZ_?
[1:19] <[Saint]> That to me would be the obvious workaround for this.
[1:19] <rZ_> no, i have no headers, but i do have a serial cable... i obviously dont want to solder that on
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[1:20] <rZ_> niston, yes, but they are limited (cant be webcam)
[1:20] <niston> heh
[1:20] <[Saint]> Hmmmm, yeah, you couldn't get a reliable connection without solder, and I'm not entirely sure if a transient connection between TX/RX would actually be capable of causing any damage.
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[1:20] <[Saint]> I would doubt it, but I wouldn't like to try it on a gamble.
[1:20] <niston> ok, so if you dont want to use UART.... why not solder an ESP8266 to the SDIO ports?
[1:21] <rZ_> i dont have this sort of hardware lying around
[1:21] <niston> and uh, use a connector. instead of soldering to pins :P
[1:21] <[Saint]> which model zero is it? the first or second iteration?
[1:21] <[Saint]> using the picam would also make your life infinitely easier.
[1:22] <rZ_> i am
[1:22] <[Saint]> and have MUCH better camera quality and resolution.
[1:22] <[Saint]> I...oh. Wait, what?
[1:22] <rZ_> okay so i have the pi zero and its connected to a pi camera
[1:22] <rZ_> what i'm trying to do is use the camera feed and act as a USB webcam to a computer that i plug the zero into
[1:23] <niston> hmm
[1:23] <niston> can you write logs ?
[1:23] <niston> to the SD card in the pi0
[1:23] <rZ_> maybe?
[1:23] <niston> then remove it and read out the logs on another computer
[1:24] <[Saint]> Does it have to operate as a USB webcam in a plug-n-play fashion, or, do you just need to be able to get to the camera feed via USB in some fashion?
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[1:24] <rZ_> i'm trying for plug and play
[1:24] <[Saint]> Hmmmm. Bums.
[1:24] <niston> this way you could at least get an idea whats happening and where things go wrong
[1:24] <[Saint]> That makes things difficult.
[1:24] <extrememist> Still got no ideas for a raspberry project
[1:25] <extrememist> Anyone lol cause I need some
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[1:26] <[Saint]> Just having the pi startup and start capturing video, and then using the USB connection on the pi solely to provide a shell, which you can then use to access the camera feed, would be my workaround with the given hardware you have.
[1:26] <[Saint]> having it try and act as a USB webcam is a very interesting idea, though.
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[1:27] <rZ__> is there any sort of automatic logging if startup fails?
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[1:27] <niston> are system logs preserved across power cycles?
[1:28] <niston> or are they stored in ramdisk or something
[1:29] <methuzla> they live in /var/log
[1:29] <[Saint]> I think they /try/ and write them out, but they do exist initially in a RAMdisk so I think if you power cycle or boot cycle there's no real guarantees.
[1:29] <[Saint]> but, yeah, you'd want /var/log/*
[1:29] <niston> so rz if you take the SD card and mount it in another box you could take a look at those logs
[1:29] <niston> maybe somethings in there which will tell you where and what exactly is failing
[1:30] <rZ_> i have no linux boxes, can i mount it on win/osx?
[1:30] <niston> what filesystem does raspbian use?
[1:30] <[Saint]> yes, but not out-of-the-box.
[1:30] <[Saint]> ext4
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[1:30] <niston> aight, so you need a driver for either win or osx that can at least read-only mount ext4
[1:30] <[Saint]> you need to install an ext4 layer for Windows to be able to mount it and R/W.
[1:31] <[Saint]> the boot partition will be accessible but the boot partition isn't interesting to us at all in this regard.
[1:31] <[Saint]> so, yeah, there's a microsoft service package for ext4 filesystem layers IIRC.
[1:32] <niston> heres a tool
[1:32] <niston> http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/
[1:32] <niston> for wintendo
[1:32] <[Saint]> I'm fairly confident MS has their own service pack for ext filesystems.
[1:32] <rZ_> well, i am currently away from computers, so i'll have to check logs later
[1:33] <niston> heres sommit for MAC http://osxdaily.com/2014/03/20/mount-ext-linux-file-system-mac/
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[2:07] <niston> theres even a read/write driver http://www.paragon-drivers.com/extfs-windows/
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[2:15] <extrememist> Why no one have ideas for me ;(
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[2:16] <methuzla> how about a random idea generator
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[2:17] <methuzla> extrememist, what are you interested in? start there.
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[4:12] <JakeSays> so i just booted my pi3 and i'm getting something about emergency mode.. wtf is that all about?
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[4:13] <ShorTie> sounds like a noobs thing
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[4:13] <JakeSays> i did a raspbian-lite install
[4:14] <ShorTie> from noobs ??
[4:15] <JakeSays> no
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[4:21] <JakeSays> 1_da7
[4:21] <JakeSays> bah
[4:23] <JakeSays> where is pipe on a uk kbd?
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[4:24] <JakeSays> also trying to debug this on a 2.8" monitor is challenging
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[4:44] <Valduare> so with berryboot iscsi booting how would one migrate back to a local install instead of iscsi
[4:46] <oq> JakeSays: pipe is between left shift and z, a key I believe which is missing on american keyboards
[4:46] <JakeSays> well that sucks
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[4:47] <oq> JakeSays: can you not boot it up on a normal monitor and change the keyboard layout with raspi-config?
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[4:49] <JakeSays> oq: i was having boot issues
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[4:52] <JK-47> anyone put a lipo on a pi zero before? hows run life and your mAh rating?
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[4:53] <oq> JK-47: I've tried running mine off a li-ion
[4:53] <joe7dust> sudomod has a ton of info on that jk-47
[4:53] <JK-47> 18650?
[4:53] <oq> yeah
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[4:54] <oq> I don't really trust the sd card not to kill itself when it runs out of battery though
[4:54] <oq> need to make the whole thing read only I guess
[4:54] <JK-47> well you can detect that
[4:54] <oq> JK-47: via the low voltage?
[4:54] <JK-47> cron it to auto shut down @ 3.3-3.4v roughly
[4:55] <oq> but the pi only sees 5v
[4:55] <oq> you'd need a booster circuit that is somehow configured to send a signal to the pi
[4:55] <JK-47> do it how this guy does https://github.com/NeonHorizon/lipopi
[4:56] <oq> ah "Whilst the Pi is running the PowerBoost informs the Pi of the battery status by switching the LB / LBO pin (which is connected to GPIO 15 - UART RXD) low when the battery is low."
[4:56] <oq> maybe I should just buy that adafruit kit then
[4:56] <JK-47> the board they use is pretty common. ada is marking it up like crazy
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[4:57] <joe7dust> i dont get that github you linked.. i mean the point of spending $20 + $9 shipping ont he 1000c is so you don't have to jack around with creating your own circuits and stuff yet I see he wired up a breadboard and some components
[4:57] <oq> JK-47: thanks for the link
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[4:58] <joe7dust> I personally plan to use a $3 DC-DC booster from ebay and a cheap cellphone batt
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[4:58] <joe7dust> but I understand the risks I'm taking with no lowvolt shutdown thingy
[4:58] <oq> joe7dust: breadboard? https://camo.githubusercontent.com/1df1737bfb3b7d8a6a3617dcb8a67094a977afad/68747470733a2f2f7261772e6769746875622e636f6d2f4e656f6e486f72697a6f6e2f6c69706f70692f6d61737465722f70696374757265732f72756e6e696e672e6a7067
[4:58] <Valduare> go all out use an e-bike lipo battery pack! :P
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[4:58] <JK-47> ebike are a set of 18650 batties. just like the tesla
[4:58] <JK-47> mine has 36
[4:59] <joe7dust> yea he added at least one component in the pic
[4:59] <joe7dust> and if you look at another diagram there are several more
[4:59] <joe7dust> the 1000c is a slightly overpriced 'premium' product so I thought it would avoid all that
[5:00] <joe7dust> this is the one i ordered http://www.ebay.com/itm/161154360120?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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[5:01] <joe7dust> and this is what im working on http://www.sudomod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=516
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[5:03] <oq> joe7dust: wasn't that post on the raspberrypi forums before?
[5:03] <joe7dust> i have it on both
[5:04] <joe7dust> no one has even commented on the rpf site
[5:04] <oq> joe7dust: you should try a /r/raspberry_pi post
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[5:05] <joe7dust> ok ty
[5:06] <oq> joe7dust: it won't hang around forever like a forum post but at least you might get some decent responses within a couple of hours
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[5:06] <joe7dust> yarp
[5:07] <joe7dust> i have a feeling its going to be ridiculously loud hahah... 1.5W laptop speaker instead of the 0.5w one most use
[5:08] <joe7dust> the amp is 3W too so it might get "over" amped -- not sure if thats a thing
[5:09] <joe7dust> funny how the amp draw up to 3W yet my display is just 1W
[5:10] <joe7dust> anyways once this thing is complete it will probably set the record for cheapest gameboy advance emulator ever
[5:11] <joe7dust> I'm going to post a guide calle joe7dust's DIRT CHEAP pi-zero or something
[5:11] <joe7dust> i've yet to see a serious guide that uses less than $100 in parts, this will be more like $50 or less i beleive
[5:13] <oq> joe7dust: getting the 3d printed case would be the most expensive I'd imagine
[5:13] <joe7dust> you didn't see the link to that shell ?
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[5:13] <joe7dust> theres some on amazon for like $6-7 too but i didn't want to wait on china
[5:13] <oq> oh right
[5:14] <joe7dust> the shell is pretty nice btw i already have it
[5:15] <joe7dust> and the rpi0 will just barely fit after i remove some internal structures
[5:15] <joe7dust> only thing i needd now is the batteryy and switches. hoping some 5v battery drops from heaven on me... not sure why they don't exist
[5:16] <joe7dust> then i wont even have to use that booster
[5:16] <JakeSays> joe7dust: get you a cell phone bettery extender
[5:16] <oq> joe7dust: batteries drop their voltage as they use up their capacity
[5:16] <joe7dust> my s5 uses a 3.7-4.4
[5:16] <oq> you would need a booster even if a 5v battery was a thing
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[5:16] <joe7dust> i don't see why a 4.8-5.2 wwouldn't be possible and work great
[5:17] <joe7dust> also theres a rpf post where guys are running off 3.3 to save power
[5:17] <joe7dust> even as low as 2.9
[5:17] <joe7dust> so i might not need it anyway
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[5:19] <JakeSays> i need a hi res 6" panel
[5:19] <joe7dust> that would be cool i want one too jakesays :)
[5:19] <joe7dust> my s5 uses a 1080p panel with like 4-5inch would be cool if you ccan use it somehow
[5:20] <JakeSays> i'm going to build a phone
[5:20] <ali1234> oled is just the best
[5:20] <ali1234> pity you can't buy them... like at all
[5:20] <joe7dust> 6" phone, are you compensating for something? ;)
[5:20] <ali1234> unless you get a tiny one
[5:20] <JakeSays> joe7dust: yes - bad eyes
[5:20] <joe7dust> haha'
[5:20] <JakeSays> ali1234: yeah i haven't been able to find any. i'll probably end up yanking one from a phone
[5:20] <joe7dust> i saw the mega the other day omg... my s5 is plenty big tyvm
[5:21] <JakeSays> and then figure out how to use it
[5:21] <joe7dust> 1080p is kinda wasted on me tho
[5:21] <joe7dust> i think 720p is barely noticeable a diff
[5:21] <joe7dust> on a 4" lcd
[5:21] <ali1234> the S7 with 4K is just silly
[5:21] <JakeSays> i've just reached the limits of my ability to tolerate carrier phones
[5:21] <ali1234> unless you use it for VR
[5:21] <joe7dust> wait what? s7 has 4k ?
[5:22] <joe7dust> thats literarlly insane
[5:22] <ali1234> it has QHD
[5:22] <joe7dust> i didn't even think a phone could have gpu good enough for that
[5:22] <ali1234> which often gets called 4K
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[5:22] <JakeSays> i have a note 5. dont remember what it is
[5:22] <joe7dust> doesn't 4k on a gaming pc require like a $400 gpu minimum
[5:22] <ali1234> it's 2560x1440
[5:22] <JakeSays> ah
[5:22] <joe7dust> ok thats not 4k
[5:22] <ali1234> which is quad 1280x720
[5:23] <ali1234> and that's a 5.1" AMOLED
[5:23] <ali1234> that's an amazing screen... but pointless for a phone
[5:24] <joe7dust> anything over 5 is a phablet imo
[5:24] <JakeSays> joe7dust: yes, and i love phablets
[5:24] <ali1234> all flagship phones are that big now
[5:24] <joe7dust> i've made a few ccalls on my 7' nexux its redonculous
[5:24] <ozzzy> my nexus 7 has no phone
[5:24] <joe7dust> 6 might be ok
[5:24] <JakeSays> i suppose i could buy a note5 replacement screen
[5:24] <JakeSays> but not sure how i'd drive it
[5:24] <joe7dust> but still kind of like driving a bright yellow truck on lifted monster truck tires
[5:24] <ali1234> even replacement screens are silly prices
[5:25] <oq> ozzzy: it has a mic doesn't it? You can still skype
[5:25] <JakeSays> ali1234: yup
[5:25] <ali1234> OLED is just expensive and every single one ends up in an expensive phone
[5:25] <JakeSays> iirc ~$180
[5:25] <joe7dust> i used google voice
[5:25] <joe7dust> ran a business off my nexus 7
[5:25] <joe7dust> incoming calls and everything
[5:25] <ozzzy> oq, i don't do skype
[5:25] <ali1234> i got one of those cheap fitness bands the other day
[5:25] <ali1234> it has the tiniest OLEd display i've ever seen
[5:25] <ali1234> it's like 1cm x 1cm
[5:25] <joe7dust> for some reason incoming calls are broken on my s5 with gv
[5:26] <joe7dust> and i always get complaints of audio issues on the outbound
[5:26] <JakeSays> huh. my note 5 is amoled
[5:26] <ali1234> all the samsung stuff is. maybe not the really cheap ones
[5:27] <JakeSays> any idea how i would go about driving a note 5 screen?
[5:27] <ali1234> nope
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[5:27] <ali1234> the hardest part would be constructing a cable adapter probably
[5:27] <ali1234> screen is probably DPI
[5:28] <JakeSays> i also have a note 1 and 3
[5:28] <JakeSays> might canibalize one of those
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[5:40] <JakeSays> oh that reminds me - i have an old HTC-6700 with a slide out keyboard. i'd like to use the kbd on a pi.
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[5:40] <joe7dust> that sounds fun jakesays
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[5:41] <JakeSays> would go well with my 2.8" display
[5:41] <joe7dust> I'd love to use an xbox360 kb or sidekick 3 kb those things were awesome and the perfect size for the pi
[5:41] <joe7dust> i bet you can do it without much trouble too i dont think the wiring would be overcomplex
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[5:41] <joe7dust> might take a lot of tooling around to bind every key and plan out the gpio wiring correctly tho
[5:42] <joe7dust> it wouldn't surprise me if someone has done it with a crackberry too
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[5:53] <JakeSays> what is a crackberry?
[5:54] <joe7dust> blackberrry keyboard
[5:54] <JakeSays> oh
[5:54] <joe7dust> some people swear by them and i believe have won some of the those texting speed contets
[5:55] <joe7dust> contests*&
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[8:37] <The_Borg> all your technological and organic individuality will be assimilated
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[8:37] <joe7dust> indeed
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[8:41] <Apicalis> hey dudes and dudettes
[8:41] <Berg> the plural is doodles
[8:41] <Apicalis> nope
[8:42] <Apicalis> You sir, are a liar!
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[8:42] <Berg> well thats a great start
[8:42] <Lonefish> I'm with Berg on this one.
[8:42] <Lonefish> Simply because his name means Mountain in dutch
[8:42] <Apicalis> and german
[8:42] <Lonefish> And I'm a bit afraid of The Mountain in GOT
[8:43] <Apicalis> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dudette
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[8:49] <Drzacek> Hi Apicalis
[8:49] <Apicalis> Hey
[8:50] <Apicalis> Bought a PI 3 yesterday. I am trying to install the RaspberryMatic (Smart home server) image
[8:50] <joe7dust> what ever happened with your rainbow display issue?
[8:50] <Apicalis> ....
[8:50] <Apicalis> please don't ask joe
[8:50] <Apicalis> xD
[8:51] <Apicalis> All the time i thought i had a pi 2 B+ since the last time i looked at the raspberry was 6 months ago. It actually was the 1 b+
[8:51] <Apicalis> That's why it didnt work
[8:51] <joe7dust> oh
[8:51] <joe7dust> so its all good now ?
[8:51] <Apicalis> Yes
[8:51] <Apicalis> But i still needed a PI 2 B+ or a 3 for the Raspberry Matic image
[8:51] <joe7dust> my memory sucks.. now i remember you awarded me a potato for that
[8:52] <Apicalis> So i bought a 3 yesterday and am now trying to set it up
[8:52] <joe7dust> i've been meaning to get down to my local market ...
[8:52] <Apicalis> oh yeah right
[8:52] <Apicalis> did u cash in your price?
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[8:53] <joe7dust> hm?
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[8:53] <Drzacek> Potato you won yesterday joe7dust
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[8:53] <Goldschlager> hello
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[8:53] <Apicalis> I gonna restart my computer , i have some issues with my SD card reader
[8:53] <joe7dust> i haven't had a chance to get down to the market
[8:53] <Apicalis> back in 3
[8:53] <Berg> good evening Goldschlager
[8:54] <Goldschlager> neeto. got terminaled into the ol' pi via ssl and using weechat on it from here :)
[8:55] <Goldschlager> ssh*
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[8:55] <Apicalis_> I am back
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[8:55] <Goldschlager> How've you been Berg
[8:55] <Drzacek> That was quick
[8:56] <Apicalis_> SSDs all over the place ^^
[8:56] <Drzacek> Apicalis_, so, do you have the right power supply for your rpi3? It needs a little more juice than older models
[8:56] <Goldschlager>
[8:56] <Apicalis_> i guess 2Amps are still enoug
[8:56] <Apicalis_> enough
[8:56] <Berg> GOOD BEEN WORKING ON THE SPEECH thingy i found if you install the libs it already has a sound acrtivated example
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[8:57] <Goldschlager> How convienient
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[8:58] <Drzacek> Apicalis_, they say 2.5A is a minimum
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[8:59] <Drzacek> But I guess 2A *SHOULD* work if you disable wifi and bluetooth
[8:59] <Apicalis_> Yeah that's my thought
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[9:00] <Apicalis_> lol my SD card reader won't work anymore that i bought yesterday....
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[9:00] <Apicalis_> But the one in my laptop is still running fine
[9:01] <joe7dust> berg is it calling you master yet?
[9:01] <Berg> yes
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[9:08] <Goldschlager> I got a new RPi 3 today... used micro sd card from RPi2 and all I get is a colorful screen... I have the image for the 2.8" tft on another card, but that makes it half way though start up and just stops
[9:08] <Goldschlager> any ideas?
[9:10] <up2late> whats u turning hte pi to?
[9:10] <up2late> retropie?
[9:10] <Goldschlager> the OS? Jessie
[9:10] <up2late> get the rpi 3 version
[9:11] <up2late> raspbian?
[9:11] <Goldschlager> yup
[9:11] <erebus^> can i use my rpi2 image on an rpi3?
[9:11] <shauno> do you have the tft attached to the 3?
[9:11] <up2late> ya get the rpi3 version
[9:11] <Goldschlager> i did, but i unhooked it incase that was where the issue was
[9:12] <shauno> ahok. was just thinking the one that gets "half way through" could be booting to the point where it loads the tft's driver, and then you see nothing else because it's sending it to a non-existent screen instead
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[9:13] <shauno> for the first card, good chance you just need to pop it back into the 2 and make sure you have all your updates
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[9:14] <Goldschlager> no, it gets to "started file system check on ****"
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[9:14] <Goldschlager> It's been doing that for about 2 hours now
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[9:18] <Goldschlager> so there is a seperate raspbian for RPi3?
[9:20] <Drzacek> Goldschlager, change tty
[9:20] <Drzacek> ctrl alt f2
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[9:21] <Goldschlager> umm... on a mac keyboard, not familiar with how to get alt working
[9:21] <Goldschlager> ctrl alt f2 opened my system preferences
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[9:23] <Drzacek> Goldschlager, any chance you are using fbcp or something?
[9:23] <Goldschlager> weechat
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[9:23] <Drzacek> lol, no your rpi
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[9:24] <Drzacek> you said you are using tft screen
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[9:24] <Goldschlager> ohhhh
[9:24] <Drzacek> so it shows image there, but not on hdmi out
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[9:24] <Goldschlager> ctrl alt f2 will swap it from hdmi to tft?
[9:26] <Drzacek> no
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[9:27] <Goldschlager> oh, i only get an image on hdmi right now, but it crashes on boot
[9:27] <Drzacek> I was using my RPi with 2.2 tft, and when I tried to connect to monitor via hdmi, it showed some booting info, then stopped
[9:27] <Drzacek> seemed like crashing
[9:27] <Goldschlager> ohhh, so how do i set it to use TFT then?
[9:27] <Drzacek> but it was starting tft driver, and didn't show anything on main monitor
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[9:28] <Drzacek> but you can change tty and log in there on your main screen (thats how I did it)
[9:28] <Drzacek> Goldschlager, you said you were already using it?
[9:29] <Goldschlager> I just to this one in the mail today
[9:29] <Goldschlager> Hopeing its not a bad unit or bad micro SD card
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[9:34] <mfa298> y
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[9:52] <Apicalis_> hmm seems that this RaspberryMatic image is broken :/ Because Openelec runs on the PI 3
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[10:03] <Drzacek> Did you get image for rpi3?
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[10:04] <Drzacek> Apicalis_, okay, there is no separate image, but I see you have to do something extra for it to boot on rpi3
[10:04] <Apicalis_> Yes i just did
[10:04] <Apicalis_> still thank you of course
[10:04] <Apicalis_> It's booting up
[10:04] <Drzacek> ok
[10:04] <Berg> doodles
[10:04] <Apicalis_> let's see, now i should be able to use the web interface
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[10:05] <Apicalis_> Nice, it's working! :D
[10:05] <Drzacek> http://homematic-forum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26917 They say here you need to copy some firmware files on your sd card
[10:05] <Drzacek> oh, okay. great! :D
[10:05] <Drzacek> soo, what will you do with your rpi1 models?
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[10:07] <Apicalis_> One will stay as my OpenElec Kodi Mediacenter until my Pine64s arrive
[10:07] <Apicalis_> And the other one will be return back as a print server for a 3d printer
[10:08] <Apicalis_> Since they need a dedicated serial device to feed them commands and i dont want to use my entire laptop just to feed one 3d printer some data
[10:09] <Apicalis_> I am really excited for the pine 64s. I gonna bash Android on one of them for my media center so i can use the appstore for Amazon prime video, kodi, netflix, twitch etc. :)
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[10:13] <Drzacek> Apicalis_, rpi3 beats pine64
[10:13] <Apicalis_> why
[10:13] <msev-> Wat about orange pi pc
[10:14] <msev-> Haha
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[10:16] <Apicalis_> As media station the pine64 as i will use it is way better
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[10:16] <Apicalis_> Since i use my computer for downloads and directly extrect the data to the HDD connected to the pine64. The 100mbit connection on the rpbypi3 is absolute choke for that
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[10:17] <Apicalis_> Of course i don't expect the pine 64 to be 1gbit since the processor is limiting and also the connection but its still more than the raspberry
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[10:26] <Drzacek> Apicalis_, wait, you use your PC to download, then your Pi/Pine is going to be only media server?
[10:26] <Apicalis_> yes
[10:26] <Drzacek> why don't you use them directly
[10:26] <Drzacek> You log on them, start the downloads
[10:26] <Drzacek> and turn your laptop off
[10:26] <Drzacek> or pc
[10:27] <Apicalis_> I got my PC running most of the day and use it to check for downloads etc so i dont really need to setup the pine for it
[10:28] <Apicalis_> I just setup my Jdownload and Vuze so finished downloads will be moved to the pine
[10:28] <Apicalis_> And the downloads are done very fast since i download with 200mbit
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[10:38] <Drzacek> Ah the jdownload, used that for years
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[10:41] <Apicalis_> still like it
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[10:43] <Apicalis_> I mean later on i might install linux and setup media services and also the download software etc. but for now i just want to jam Android on there and use it
[10:43] <Drzacek> I stopped using it when all those megaupload and other went down
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[11:24] <lastaid> hello there, anyone has experience using a hifiberry and a display on the raspberry pi 1st gen B+
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[11:44] <lastaid> i still get the rainbow screen when using the hifiberry dac+ on a raspberry pi 1 b+ with force_eeprom_read=0
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[13:42] <yene> how powerful is the raspberry pi zero in terms of game emulation
[13:42] <yene> gameboy games, n64, gamecube, ps4?
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[13:45] <Drzacek> yene, which RPi?
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[13:45] <Drzacek> oh sorry
[13:45] <yene> the baby version
[13:45] <Drzacek> I was running retropi on my pi zero, GB/GBC was running fine, so was snes and c64
[13:45] <Drzacek> but N64 was too much
[13:46] <pksato> yene: Is fast enough to 8bit and 16bit retro-games.
[13:49] <GRiZL0C> yene: i dont thiink you will be emulate ps4 games on a raspberry pi zero
[13:49] <GRiZL0C> not even on a pi 3
[13:50] <GRiZL0C> damn :S i cant believe i said that
[13:51] <yene> dont worry the facepalm emoji has not yet shipped
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[13:51] <yene> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/game-boy-zero/
[13:51] <pksato> rpi0 and N64 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdAb6SNm6yg
[13:52] <GRiZL0C> maybe 10 years from now there will be a raspberry pi that can emulate ps4 games
[13:52] <GRiZL0C> and still costs 35 dollars
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[14:03] <k-man> how do i set the default PCM volume on the rpi after boot?
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[14:07] <shauno> GRiZL0C: maybe, but people will just complain it can't emulate ps7 instead
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[14:11] <GRiZL0C> shauno: lol
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[14:16] <Drzacek> shauno, and that it cost too much
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[14:16] <Drzacek> I know I will
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[14:44] <joe7dust> grizloc we'll just download the schematic into our 3d printer and it will full assemble a product by then ;)
[14:44] <joe7dust> material cost maybe $10 haha
[14:45] <joe7dust> err sorry i meant to say grizl0c
[14:45] <joe7dust> imagine how much the gold cartridge will cost for our replicators
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[14:46] <joe7dust> you know, the little tiny block of gold that replicator will use for the pins n such
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[14:48] <raspbian> yo guys!
[14:48] <milesrout> raspbian: oh good you made it.
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[14:48] <raspbian> :D :D
[14:49] <raspbian> hi guys
[14:49] <raspbian> im trying to configure my pi-hole
[14:49] <raspbian> im realy new at it
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[14:50] <raspbian> i got it running and now i wanna make an authentication
[14:50] <raspbian> when trying to connect the dashboard
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[14:53] <joe7dust> that n64 video is painful to watch
[14:54] <joe7dust> i wonder why that emulator isn't configured for framedropping
[14:54] <joe7dust> it looks like it is literally waiting and trying to render every single frame even though it can't
[14:57] <yene> great i stepped on a hdmi adapter, why are they not made tho withstand 60kg
[14:58] <Rukus> why is he showing off that video?
[14:58] <Rukus> it doesnt even work right
[14:59] <oq> yene: you need squishier feet
[15:00] <raspbian> guys can you see my messages?
[15:00] <SpeedEvil> no
[15:01] <Armand> Nein
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[15:13] <pwillard> negativo
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[15:21] <whisky_> Hello. I'm downloading noobs for my new pi3. Is it possible to install multiples OS's through NOOBS allowing me to select which one to boot into post installation?
[15:22] <Rukus> yeah
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[15:22] <Rukus> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/noobs.md
[15:23] <Rukus> https://github.com/raspberrypi/noobs/blob/master/README.md
[15:23] <Rukus> there it is
[15:25] <Rukus> scroll down and read
[15:25] <Rukus> After multiple OSes have been installed, you can select which OS to boot through this selection window that is automatically displayed. NOOBS will remember your choice and boot this OS by default unless a different option has been selected within 10 seconds.
[15:26] <Rukus> i jsut noticed he was gone
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[15:26] <Rukus> omfg
[15:26] <Rukus> fajflkasf
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[15:30] <valeech> Rukus: I appreciate the info! :)
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[15:35] <Rukus> valeech: :)
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[15:53] <yene> who you call noob
[15:55] <Encrypt> yene, noobs is a "distro"
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[16:03] <GRiZL0C>
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[16:12] <raspbian> can someone please help me understand this guide? https://www.reddit.com/r/pihole/comments/4f8yq1/password_protect_admin_interface/
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[16:22] <Tenkawa> greetings all
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[16:28] <raspbian> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME?!??!?
[16:29] <raspbian> You guys just ignore me each time I ask a question
[16:29] <tapoxi> raspbian whats your question
[16:29] <tapoxi> raspbian please don't use caps
[16:29] <raspbian> sorry man
[16:29] <raspbian> just really wanted someone to listen
[16:30] <raspbian> I'm trying to configure my pi-hole
[16:30] <tapoxi> IRC takes a while
[16:30] <raspbian> and I want to use a password authentication on the statistics interface
[16:30] <raspbian> so i found that guide - https://www.reddit.com/r/pihole/comments/4f8yq1/password_protect_admin_interface/
[16:31] <raspbian> in the comments
[16:31] <raspbian> and i cant seem to understand how to do it
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[16:33] <FeersumEndjinn> What is a pi-hole?
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[16:34] <tapoxi> raspbian so this is really a lighttpd or apache question, since its around configuring mod_auth, but lets step through it. what are you stuck on?
[16:34] <raspbian> It's a private DNS server which sits on your LAN and just clears all the ads
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[16:34] <raspbian> real nice
[16:35] <raspbian> sec I'll send you a link
[16:35] <raspbian> and thanks a lit tapoxi, be with you in a sec
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[16:36] <raspbian> have fun FeersumEndjinn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da1fF0qzl2k&feature=youtu.be
[16:36] <pwillard> N-iiiiiii-ce
[16:36] <raspbian> I really got no idea how to use any of those two tapoxi
[16:36] <FeersumEndjinn> I believe it is apt get --dist-upgraderaspbian: thanks :)
[16:36] <raspbian> A
[16:36] <FeersumEndjinn> balls
[16:36] <FeersumEndjinn> rasbian: nice :)
[16:37] <TooLmaN> pwillard: FYI. The 4N35 optocoupler can only take 6V for the IR-LED... I cooked 2 chips without doing my homework. Why didn't anyone tell me that you cannot trust the Internet!?
[16:37] <raspbian> And it also works against sites which block you if you block them.
[16:37] <TooLmaN> pwillard: I just created a 24v-6v voltage divider and fed the optocoupler that way. It's working.
[16:37] <pwillard> We ALWAYS say don't trust the internet
[16:38] <pwillard> not required
[16:38] <TooLmaN> That's what I get for trying to rush and use someone else's work
[16:38] <pwillard> that is more of the issue
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[16:38] <ozzzy> TooLmaN, always read the datasheet
[16:39] <pwillard> The LED would be fried by getting too much current.
[16:39] <tapoxi> raspbian looking through pi-hole's installer its webserver is lighttpd
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[16:39] <raspbian> great
[16:39] <tapoxi> raspbian https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/blob/master/automated%20install/basic-install.sh
[16:39] <TooLmaN> ozzzy: I even had the datasheet. The transistor can handle 70v, not the LED.
[16:39] <raspbian> so how do I change it
[16:41] <TooLmaN> The original crap schematic was using a 4N28, not a 4N35. I didn't check the data sheet for the 4N28.
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[16:41] <pwillard> I said they were nearly identical
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[16:41] <TooLmaN> It's funny. I took my time on the datasheets for the LCD and MCP chip, but thought the opto to be trivial. Yet, I've spent 2 days on it.
[16:42] <TooLmaN> Assume nothing, test everything
[16:42] <tapoxi> raspbian ssh into the box, and follow that guide you found. skip the "Set Up A lighttpd Web Server on the Raspberry Pi" step
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[16:43] <pwillard> the 6V has nothing to do with your circuit... you are not placing the LED in reverse orientation... so reverse voltage breakdown will not happen
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[16:43] <TooLmaN> pwillard: The goos thing is, this project is gaining some momentum. The C_O staff want it deployed to all of our production machines by the end of this calendar year.
[16:43] <pwillard> you did not kill the LED with voltage... you killed it with too low or missing current limiting resistor
[16:44] <ozzzy> you just need to provide a stronger resistor at 24v
[16:44] <TooLmaN> The original design had a 2.7K resistor on the 24v side
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[16:44] <TooLmaN> I think I tried up to 10K while testing
[16:45] <pwillard> which should be fine, the LED can handle 50mA... and 2.4K gives it 10ma
[16:45] <TooLmaN> Yet, it was not working
[16:45] <TooLmaN> The LED was never run without at least 2.7K inline
[16:45] <ozzzy> 2.7K should give you ~10mA
[16:46] <pwillard> 10mA would have lit the LED
[16:46] <TooLmaN> So maybe the other 2 ICs are not toast. How can I test the IR LED?
[16:46] <TooLmaN> Well, putting it in the working circuit I guess ><
[16:47] <TooLmaN> Coffee typing again.
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[16:47] <TooLmaN> So I shouldn't need a 24-6 voltage divider circuit? Just a 2.7K in-line with the 24V LED?
[16:47] <pwillard> http://www.technogumbo.com/projects/Learning-to-Use-an-Optocoupler-or-OptoIsolator/4N25_TestSetup.jpg
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[16:48] <pwillard> You should not need a voltage divider... IMHO
[16:49] <TooLmaN> So what is the minimum current to power the IR LED? 10MA maybe?
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[16:50] <pwillard> Likely... Most LEDs will light at 10mA. 50mA is the point at which it will start to fail...
[16:51] <pwillard> Absolute Max Rating: Forward current IF 50 mA
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[16:51] <TooLmaN> So I could even use a 1K and get 24mA to the IR LED
[16:51] <pwillard> http://www.vishay.com/docs/81181/4n35.pdf If you look at the example... they show 10mA
[16:52] <pwillard> look for a sample switching circuit a few pages in...
[16:52] <TooLmaN> I see. I have the ISOCOM data sheet.
[16:52] <pwillard> It is also what we told you was a good design
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[16:52] <TooLmaN> So 2.4K would be ideal.
[16:53] <pwillard> Iyt should be... yes
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[16:53] <TooLmaN> The Vishay sheet has more info. I got the ISOCOM from Jameco, where I bought the ICs.
[16:54] <pwillard> This is essentially what the control input side (front end) of a Solid State relay has that says 3-36V.
[16:54] <TooLmaN> Gotta dig in the resistor grab bag for a 2.4K now. :)
[16:54] <pwillard> well, 2.7k is likely easier to find
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[16:55] <pwillard> and includes the forward voltage drop of the LED in the equation
[16:55] <TooLmaN> Roughly 8.8mA with a 2.7K
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[16:59] <TooLmaN> And...another meeting. I'll be back later. Thanks again for your help.
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[17:33] <GRiZL0C> qqqq sssssssp
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[17:38] <GRiZL0C> zxswedcvfrtgbnhyujmkiolp
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[17:48] <yene> anyone added a camera to a pi, and recording the number plates of passing cars, building up a database of the working hours of everyone?
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[17:49] <Lartza> That sounds illegal :D
[17:49] <stoogenmeyer> yene: I did and to my astonishment I discovered most people work 9-5
[17:49] <stoogenmeyer> most unexpected
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[17:54] * pwillard works 7-3
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[18:01] <JakeSays> hmm. the debian wheezy armel builds are no longer on the site. i need one :(
[18:02] <curlyears> Lartza: depends on the jurisdiction . In the US, you wouldn't have any legal issues with the actual recording of the information. You might well find issues with how you USE that informastion
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[18:02] <JakeSays> Lartza: yeah thats not illegal.
[18:02] <fennesz> Hello! Would like to buy an external hard drive for my raspberry pi . Any recommendations for 2TB?
[18:03] <JakeSays> fennesz: make sure you either get a drive that powers itself and the pi, or a nice hub to power the drive.
[18:03] <curlyears> *wah*
[18:04] <JakeSays> so is it curl years, or curly ears?
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[18:05] <curlyears> I tried to load my 64GB SD card into my desktop, ao I could write Noobs to it, and I culdn't see very bwell, ,stuck it in the wrong slot, now it has disappeared inside my card-reader device I'll have to shit down my desktop, and partially disassemble it to recover the SD card, and that is the only SD card I have *WAAH*
[18:05] <curlyears> curly ears
[18:06] <curlyears> you can get a 960GB SSD from Tiger Direct for $229
[18:06] <curlyears> brand is PNY, not sure how well that model works
[18:06] <JakeSays> i think ssd might be overkill for a pi
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[18:06] <JakeSays> oh dont do pny.
[18:07] <JakeSays> bad juju
[18:07] <fennesz> What do you think about this drive : http://www.toptenreviews.com/computers/storage/best-desktop-external-hard-drives/verbatim-usb-desktop-hard-drive-review/
[18:07] <curlyears> I have nopt had any problems with PNY RAMs
[18:08] <JakeSays> if you're going ssd its either samsung or intel
[18:08] <BurtyB> *yawn*
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[18:10] <TwoNotes> Is "SanDisk" a Samsung brand?
[18:11] <JakeSays> no
[18:11] <JakeSays> but they're not bad
[18:11] <fennesz> TwoNotes, don't think so
[18:11] <fennesz> And yes they are fine
[18:11] <curlyears> SanDisk is a brand of USB thumbs and SDHC cards, well respected ihn that area
[18:11] <JakeSays> sandisk is its own company
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[18:11] <TwoNotes> ok. I have lots of SanDisk SD cards - never any problems
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[18:12] <TheLostAdmin> I vaguely remember some discussion about WD buying or wanting to buy SanDisk at some point in the past but I don't remember if it happened (or if I am thinking of 2 totally different companies).
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[18:13] <curlyears> I think I vaguely recall some rumours about a WD/SanDisk merger
[18:13] <TheLostAdmin> SanDisk makes good SD cards. Samsung and Intel make the best SSD controller chips and high quality flash for their SSDs.
[18:14] <curlyears> isn't the firmware on an SSD supposed to makle it look like a very fast HDD to the O/S?
[18:14] <TheLostAdmin> yes
[18:14] <TheLostAdmin> with the addition of supporting TRIM.
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[18:14] <TwoNotes> How do I determine which brand SSD I have, without opening the case?
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[18:16] <JakeSays> get the device info
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[18:16] <JakeSays> in windows its under device manager
[18:16] <JakeSays> dont remember under linux
[18:17] <faugusztin> JakeSays: no, SanDisk is not really an own company anymore :)
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[18:18] <JakeSays> faugusztin: where they bought?
[18:18] <faugusztin> JakeSays: they belong to the big Western Digital now :P
[18:18] <JakeSays> ah thats right
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[18:18] <faugusztin> and sandisk is a digital storage media producer in general. SSD, flash storage, SD cards, CF cards, ... they do all of that
[18:19] <faugusztin> my sandisk USB3 drive, yummy http://cdn.auguszt.in/sandisk.png
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[18:19] <giddles> et who phones home?
[18:19] <giddles> :D
[18:19] <curlyears> man. I don't WANT to pay $65@ for 256GB USB Thumbs. 256GB SDHD cards are even pricier.
[18:20] <faugusztin> curlyears: that sounds like lowend USB flash drive, if it is really only $65 for 256GB
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[18:21] <JK-47> lol. considering i deal with flash arrays worth hundreds of K or millions for a living, $65 gives me a chuckle.
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[18:21] <curlyears> faugusztin: no, jusrt a good discount dealer: Tiger Direct.
[18:22] <TheLostAdmin> I must disagree with you there, curlyears. Tiger Direct is not "good". They have been caught more than once selling refurbs and new.
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[18:22] <faugusztin> curlyears: tiger direct does not exist
[18:22] <curlyears> JK-47: drop me a few thousand GB worth through the mails, will ya?
[18:23] <curlyears> faugusztin: depends what you mean by "exist." I get daily email from them, and spedn money with them from time to time
[18:23] <faugusztin> at least the old one that is
[18:23] <faugusztin> https://consumerist.com/2015/12/28/tigerdirect-has-new-owner-wont-accept-returns/
[18:24] <curlyears> Apparently there was a BUG change of some sort at Tiger Direct this last February
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[18:40] <curlyears> BIG
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[18:45] <xamindar> umm, isn't it illegal to not accept returns?
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[18:47] <SpeedEvil> In principle, yes.
[18:47] <oq> consumer rights in 'merica? hahaha
[18:47] <SpeedEvil> In practice - I have ordered within the last six months an item from amazon.co.uk - where do I return this item as it has developed a fault under the sale of goods act, for service.
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[18:48] <faugusztin> in continental europe ? to the store (for first year; in many countries for whole length of warranty). In UK ? God knows
[18:48] <oq> SpeedEvil: of course it would be illegal in britain
[18:48] <chithead> there is mandatory warranty in most places, when the product is not as advertised
[18:49] <chithead> but as long as it is, "all sales are final" is up to the discretion of the individual shop owner
[18:50] <oq> SpeedEvil: also the sale of goods act got replaced by the consumer rights act
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[18:57] <SpeedEvil> oq: I know.
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[19:14] <TheCubeLord> hey all
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[19:24] <TheCubeLord> any good html editors I could apt install?
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[19:27] <TooLmaN> vim :)
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[19:28] <TheCubeLord> by editors i mean IDES
[19:28] <TheCubeLord> that dont make your head explode
[19:28] <PhotoJim> TooLmaN: I was going to do that :)
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[19:28] <TooLmaN> I've been using vim as an IDE for years. What features are you looking for?
[19:30] <TooLmaN> TheCubeLord: If you don't want to learn vim, you can try bluefish or kompozer.
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[19:37] <TheCubeLord> kompozer
[19:37] <TheCubeLord> huh
[19:37] <TheCubeLord> ill check that out
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[19:37] <TheCubeLord> TooLmaN: Good syntax highliting, auto tag completion, auto indentation
[19:38] <raspbian> tapoxi!!
[19:38] <TooLmaN> Kompozer is not too bad. Just depends on what features you want. Commercial IDEs are paid apps for a reason.
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[19:38] <TooLmaN> TheCubeLord: I do all that and then some with Vim. I converted and never looked back
[19:38] <TheCubeLord> fine ill try vim
[19:38] <TheCubeLord> or gnome-vim
[19:39] <TheCubeLord> just because
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[19:40] <TheCubeLord> so what plugins do i need
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[19:41] <TheCubeLord> TooLmaN: What Plugins do I need
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[19:44] <TheCubeLord> hello?
[19:44] <ShorTie> Hi
[19:44] <TooLmaN> TheCubeLord: Are you looking for full stack frontend
[19:44] <TheCubeLord> that is
[19:45] <TooLmaN> TheCubeLord: Google 'vim for frontend development'. Some plugins that come to mind are Vundle, YouCompleteMe, syntastic, NERDTree.
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[19:45] <TheCubeLord> how do I install them
[19:45] <TooLmaN> I don't use autocomplete anymore myself. I just focused on learning the languages I use more.
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[19:46] <TheCubeLord> i just like autocomplete
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[19:47] <TheCubeLord> how do you install vim plugins on a raspberry pi?
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[19:47] <TooLmaN> TheCubeLord: Here's a good place to start. http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Use_Vim_like_an_IDE
[19:48] <TheCubeLord> thanks
[19:48] <TooLmaN> TheCubeLord: Just be careful with large plugins on the PI. Only the RPI3 has the power to run full plugins
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[19:48] <TheCubeLord> ya i use a pi3
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[19:49] <TooLmaN> I run 2 .vimrc files. One for my work computer and one for my rpi's
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[19:49] <TheCubeLord> what is vimrc? vim plugin file?
[19:50] <TooLmaN> Learning vim is a great, long-term decision. Took me several years to do so. I grew up on Dream Weaver, then Eclipse, SublimeText (I bought it), and finally back to vim.
[19:51] <TooLmaN> You can grab the basics in a day or so. Decent user in a week to a month. I know very few that have mastered it though.
[19:51] <TheCubeLord> so how do i install vundle
[19:51] <TheCubeLord> im at its github page
[19:51] <TooLmaN> https://github.com/VundleVim/Vundle.vim Read the Quick Start section.
[19:52] <oq> nano > vim
[19:52] <TheCubeLord> where is the .vimrc file?
[19:52] <TooLmaN> Your .vimrc is in your home folder. If not, create it.
[19:53] <ShorTie> i'd guess in your home directory
[19:53] <TooLmaN> ~/.vimrc
[19:53] <TheCubeLord> ok created it
[19:54] <TheCubeLord> wai is it a file?
[19:55] <TooLmaN> Yes, .vimrc is a config file. Here is mine for an example. https://github.com/ssharpjr/dotfiles/blob/master/vimrc
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[19:56] <TooLmaN> Not to get too far off topic, but if you look at the "Frontend Plugins" section, you will see the plugins I use for HTML/JS/XML.
[19:56] <TheCubeLord> I broke vim
[19:56] <TheCubeLord> ..
[19:56] <TheCubeLord> ...
[19:57] <TooLmaN> Read the Vundle README.md file carefully.
[19:57] <TheCubeLord> let me start again
[19:57] <ShorTie> ls will not show the .vimrc file
[19:57] <TheCubeLord> uninstalling vim and then reinstalling it
[19:57] <TheCubeLord> wait no
[19:57] <TheCubeLord> its ok
[19:57] <TheCubeLord> huh
[19:58] <TooLmaN> vim is never permanently broken. Just misconfigured. :)
[19:58] <ShorTie> try 'nano -w ~/.vimrc' to see it
[19:58] <TooLmaN> You can list all files to see it too. 'ls -alh'
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[19:59] <TheCubeLord> i copied your thing TooLmaN
[20:00] <TheCubeLord> hopefuly thats ok
[20:00] <TooLmaN> It works but be careful. It has key re-maps and such. :0
[20:00] <TooLmaN> And yes, it's free.
[20:00] <TooLmaN> It is commonly recommended to make your own from others. Just so you learn what it's doing.
[20:01] <TooLmaN> Mine uses tmux integration as well.
[20:01] <TheCubeLord> how do I change the tab width>
[20:01] <TooLmaN> And the airline stuff may give some errors.
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[20:03] <TooLmaN> TheCubeLord: https://wiki.python.org/moin/Vim. This is for python but you use it for anything.
[20:03] <TheCubeLord> what airline stuff?
[20:03] <TooLmaN> The plugin in my vimrc, vim-airline. It's awesome. Adds info lines to the top and bottom of vim
[20:04] <TheCubeLord> oh so that Pi greek letter thing
[20:04] <TooLmaN> Just remember, if you change plugins in your vimrc, re-run :PluginInstall
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[20:07] <xxValiumxx> Hello!
[20:07] <Eels> Would it be viable to run both a web server and a teamspeak server on a Raspberry Pi, and at the same time use it for daily backups on an external HDD?
[20:08] <Eels> Or am I way overestimating the Raspberry Pi there?
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[20:12] <mfa298> Eels: that may depend on how heavily the different things are being uesd.
[20:12] <mfa298> bet bet would be to try it
[20:13] <mfa298> things like backups you can potentially nice and ionice so they have less impact on other stuff
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[20:16] <GeekOfflineNL> hi
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[20:19] <thomax> hi, what is the trick to get a clean sound with jackd on the 3.5mm jack or hdmi (internal sound of the bcm2835)
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[20:19] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[20:23] <thomax> all distracted by soccer?
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[20:25] <GeekOfflineNL> no, just don knwo how to help you :-)
[20:26] <thomax> :-)
[20:26] <stiv> maybe asking what is the trick? was just a trick to distract us
[20:26] <thomax> i just get a choppy, stuttering sound
[20:27] <ShorTie> sure your adapter is wired right ??
[20:28] <thomax> well, it's the on-board hdmi/3.5mm jack
[20:28] <ShorTie> it does have 3 rings and a tip ??
[20:28] <thomax> both don't give a clean sound when i use it with jack
[20:32] <TheCubeLord> how do I insert in VIM again? :P
[20:32] <thomax> when i use mplayer oder html5 video on youtube or something (without jackd) it works. but because i like to use some software synths, i need low latency jackd. when i attach a usb audio device i have no issues.
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[20:32] <thomax> TheCubeLord: try 'i'
[20:32] <Tenkawa> brb
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[20:32] <TheCubeLord> nothing happens
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[20:32] <thomax> TheCubeLord: well, try <ESC><ESC>i
[20:32] <TheCubeLord> Now
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[20:32] <Tenkawa> thats better
[20:32] <mfa298> TheCubeLord: various keys will put you into insert mode (i I a A o being the ones I commonly use), <esc> then takes you back out into command mode
[20:33] <mfa298> all you might see change is it saying "-- INSERT --" at the bottom of the screen
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[20:35] <TheCubeLord> i tried doing :i
[20:35] <TheCubeLord> lol
[20:35] <Ivoah> What are the power requirements of the Zero?
[20:36] <Ivoah> Would a 1A powerboost be enough to power it and an LCD?
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[20:41] <TheCubeLord> I'm starting to like vim more now
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[20:42] <sprix> Welcome to the darkside
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[20:43] <thomax> i love vi since over 30yrs
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[20:45] <sprix> Make sure you get comfortable with plugins
[20:47] <thomax> i even use vrapper in eclipse :-)
[20:51] <thomax> instead of david guetta why didn't they choose j.m.jarree for the opening?
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[20:53] <TooLmaN> TheCubeLord: If you get brave, check out youtube for vim and tmux workflows. The Ruby guys love vim and tmux.
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[21:03] <TheCubeLord> in vim can I quick save cause doing: ESC ESC :q i
[21:03] <TheCubeLord> is to much
[21:05] <mfa298> should only need one <esc> then :w writes
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[21:05] <ThreeGen> Anyone get their SmartyPi Touches? I need to know if I can run an HDMI cable anywhere from the unit for a secondary display.
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[22:31] <thomax> got it: jackd -S -p16 -t2000 -dalsa -dhw:0 -p1024 -n3 -r44100
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[22:35] <bpye> Does anyone know how the wifi interface is connected on the pi 3? I've read SDIO. Does that mean that the GPIOs with the alt function SD1 on the GPIO header are different on the Pi3?
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[22:36] <mfa298> bpye: a few of the GPIO's got moved around on the Pi3 (I'm not sure exactly which)
[22:36] <mfa298> but the bluetooth uses the UART that was normally on the GPIO, and so the console is now on the other UART device which isn't as capable (and has had some issues)
[22:37] <bpye> The miniuart right? I recall reading about the differences when doing some bare metal programming on the rpi
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[22:37] <mfa298> that's how I understand it.
[22:37] <bpye> It probably isnt going to matter as I think the compute module is a better fit for my application, and I would assume the CM3 doesn't include WiFi on board.
[22:38] <mfa298> and wifi is SDIO, although I can't remember if they swapped things about there or not
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[22:38] <bpye> I think they must of then
[22:38] <bpye> There are only two SDIO interfacecs as far as I am aware
[22:38] <bpye> SD0 is used for the SD card, I assume SD1 for the wifi?
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[22:39] <mfa298> I know one is SD card and one wifi, I'm not sure if they swapped them around or not.
[22:39] <mfa298> My guess is that the CM3 won't have wifi so you'de have more choice there
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[22:46] <bpye> mfa298: If they want to keep compatibility it can't really so yeah
[22:47] <bpye> Since I'm using DPI the extra IO would be super helpful anyway, DPI is using 21 of my IO currently
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[22:50] <thomax> funtastic
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[22:53] <thomax> france wins
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[23:07] <thomax> bye
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[23:19] <JakeSays> so anyone know where i might get a debian armel build?
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[23:55] <beng1> evening all
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[23:55] <beng1> anyone here experts in bluetooth chip on pi3? Having issue that its detection rate (of beacons) is about 1/4 that of a cheap bluetooth dongle in a pi2
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[23:57] <Valduare> why is this still empty… https://android.googlesource.com/device/pifoundation/rpi3/
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