#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-06-13

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[0:50] <monorail0> What is the relationship between GPIO and SPI? Is SPI the default protocol that GPIO implements? (ie when calling bcm2835_gpio_lev(...)) Thanks!
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[0:53] <ozzzy> spi is a serial protocol and gpio is just an input/output line
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[1:03] <surfn> hi
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[1:04] <surfn> i have a use case for the Raspberry Pi, where it will shoot pictures with the camera for timelapse
[1:05] <surfn> the problem is, that it's going to shoot every minute or so from the time it boots until the battery dies.
[1:05] <surfn> If the battery dies while it's writing to the SD card, I'll be looking at SD corruption.
[1:06] <surfn> is there a way to avoid this SD corruption through clever programming?
[1:08] <SpeedEvil> monitor the battery voltage.
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[1:08] <Viper168> use some power management program?
[1:08] <Viper168> or guess those might not work with random batteries
[1:08] <Viper168> on a non-laptop
[1:09] <Viper168> but yeah, can do what SpeedEvil said I suppose
[1:10] <SpeedEvil> Also, commercial 'trail cams' are available that may have an order of magnitude less power use
[1:10] <ali1234> sparkfun make a good battery monitor
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[1:10] <ali1234> works with any lipo
[1:10] <ali1234> read data from i2c
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[1:14] <surfn> ok, but, if I want to just stop my shoot - I was going to just kill the power... I guess you guys are saying that;s not the right thing to do
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[1:14] <surfn> that I should monitor the battery, and shutdown properly
[1:15] <surfn> there's no tmpfs blockwrite method that I just don't know
[1:15] <JakeSays> if you kill the power you may bork your captures
[1:16] <JakeSays> oh, sounds like you already are
[1:16] <surfn> yeah, that's precisely what I'm trying to avoid
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[1:16] <SpeedEvil> surfn: the problem is not the filesystem being corrupted.
[1:16] <surfn> I was hoping there was code that could let me be sloppy.
[1:16] <JakeSays> yeah - get a battery monitor and have your app respond to it
[1:16] <SpeedEvil> surfn: the problem is the underlying block device becoming confused and dying.
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[1:17] <SpeedEvil> SD cards do not - because of resource lacks - handle cases SSDs tend to handle well nowadays.
[1:17] <SpeedEvil> So writing a block, then powering off can wipe lots more than that block, or cause massive corruption or stop it 'booting'/.
[1:17] <surfn> so, if I was to use an ssd (read usb stick)
[1:18] <JakeSays> i would get a battery monitor
[1:18] <SpeedEvil> The best you can do is to ensure it stays powered on for 10s after the last write
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[1:28] <surfn> my simple project is getting more complex...
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[1:29] <SyncYourDogmas> go on
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[1:31] <ali1234> the problem of making a raspberry pi robust against power loss is a long standing one which still doesn't have a really good solution
[1:32] <ali1234> it affects just about every project as well
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[1:32] <ali1234> writing some simple app is comparatively easy
[1:32] <surfn> yeah
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[1:32] <ali1234> but in the end it always boils down to getting the operating system to work well
[1:33] <surfn> I thought there would be a tmpfs + ext4 solution with some sort of verification or cleanup code that would have helped.
[1:33] <ali1234> the ideal solution is a tiny distribution which does not write temp files and logs to the SD card
[1:33] <surfn> but seems like that's not the case
[1:33] <ali1234> i wouldn't worry about the card actually dying
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[1:34] <ali1234> filesystem corruption is much more likely
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[1:34] <surfn> yeah, same thing, I lose the data from the shoot
[1:34] <SyncYourDogmas> tails
[1:34] <ali1234> just call sync(2) after writing an image
[1:35] <ali1234> how long do you need it to run for?
[1:35] <ali1234> you could just over-spec the battery
[1:35] <SyncYourDogmas> that still writes to the sd card though
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[1:36] <SyncYourDogmas> realistically just have automated backups and its not a big deal
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[1:41] <surfn> that's an interesting idea
[1:42] <surfn> have the battery + camera on a pi, and then have that sync to a nearby pi that's plugged in.
[1:42] <surfn> I corrupt the filesystem on the local - that's ok, I'll just write a new SD card, but the data is saved away.
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[1:46] <SyncYourDogmas> I do that, but then again I use my pis at home
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[1:47] <SyncYourDogmas> it doesnt make it too difficult
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[2:25] <odigem> hi
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[2:26] <pwillard> hello
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[2:48] <ricksl> i just picked up one of the new pi zeros, I love how the camera connector cable cost more than the pizero
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[2:54] <fragmint> my friend picked up a $5 case for his pi zero
[2:54] <fragmint> he could have just gotten another pi zero!
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[2:55] <ozzzy> sometimes you need a case
[2:55] <ozzzy> I just ordered a nanopi and case
[2:55] <stiv> at some point, it will be cheaper to build a case out of pi zeros
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[4:24] <Adran> My pi rebooted, and now I'm getting an error: mmc0: fsm 1, hsts 1. Any idea how to fix this? it will not boot.
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[4:33] <SyncYourDogmas> can you go into an emergancy terminal or anything?
[4:34] <Adran> it doesn't appear so
[4:34] <Adran> it goes to that error nearly right away after boot
[4:37] <SyncYourDogmas> your files will be fine
[4:37] <SyncYourDogmas> once in a computer
[4:37] <SyncYourDogmas> you might also be able to fix it
[4:37] <SyncYourDogmas> other possiblity is sdcard failure I Suppose
[4:38] <Adran> i'm trying to mount via debian
[4:38] <Adran> but i don't know how to test an sd card for errors
[4:40] <SyncYourDogmas> can you see files?
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[4:41] <pksato> use badblockss tools to test sdcard (or any other local storage)
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[4:52] <Valduare> interesting http://www.nanopi.org/NanoPi-2_Feature.html
[4:52] <ozzzy> I ordered one
[4:53] <ozzzy> but the M1
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[5:04] <Valduare> why m1
[5:06] <Valduare> this one? http://www.nanopi.org/NanoPi_Feature.html
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[5:51] <swift110-phone> hey
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[5:57] <SyncYourDogmas> hey
[5:58] <swift110-phone> how r u
[5:58] <SyncYourDogmas> very well
[5:58] <swift110-phone> good
[5:58] <SyncYourDogmas> you?
[5:59] <swift110-phone> im great
[5:59] <swift110-phone> look forward to doing the weather program with my pi zero
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[6:05] <SyncYourDogmas> ah gonnna code it? what language?
[6:07] <stiv> controlling the weather with your pi would be totally cool
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[6:08] <SyncYourDogmas> its possible, although not just with a pi
[6:08] <stiv> yeah, probably need more i/o pins
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[6:10] <SyncYourDogmas> few airplanes of silver particles
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[6:12] <stiv> some silver i/odide ?
[6:13] <SyncYourDogmas> thats the one
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[7:05] <JakeSays> huh. that nanopi is interesting
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[7:09] <JakeSays> not too impressed with the processor tho
[7:09] <JakeSays> they wasted silicon on that stupid jazelle extension
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[8:30] <Drzacek> Hello #raspberrypi
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[8:32] <Mead> Hello Drzacek
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[8:35] <hypermist> maybe i should make a pi an ip camera ;D
[8:39] <SyncYourDogmas> with a good password lol
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[8:41] <hypermist> SyncYourDogmas, lol :P
[8:41] <hypermist> if someone wants to view the road
[8:41] <hypermist> they can xD
[8:44] <Drzacek> hypermist, since IP cameras are cheaper than the RPi itself
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[8:45] <hypermist> no here its not xD
[8:45] <hypermist> its about 60$ just to get the cheapest one in quality
[8:45] <hypermist> and its potato
[8:45] <hypermist> xD
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[8:53] <Drzacek> I got mine for 24 EURO
[8:54] <Drzacek> of course the quality was nonexistent
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[8:56] <Goldschlager> Hello
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[9:04] <Goldschlager> Not a ver talkative group here tonight
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[9:05] <BurtyB> the wonders of timezones.. morning :)
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[9:08] <Goldschlager> Yup, stil night for me
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[9:09] <hypermist> it just hit darkness ;D
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[9:11] <Ketchup901> I put raspbian on a microSDHC card and now I want to remove it, wat do? I can't delete the partitions from GParted or Parted, it says partitions have been written but kernel has not been informed and old partitions will remain in use, rebooting doesn't do anything.
[9:12] <ShorTie> you just want a different os on it ??
[9:13] <Ketchup901> yeah I want to write an .img to it
[9:13] <ShorTie> or use sdcard for some other purpose ??
[9:13] <ShorTie> then write an image to it
[9:13] <Ketchup901> doesn't work
[9:13] <ShorTie> the image re-formates the sdcard
[9:13] <Ketchup901> yeah but I can't format it
[9:13] <Ketchup901> nothing will format it
[9:14] <ShorTie> is it in use ??
[9:14] <ShorTie> ie: in the pi
[9:14] <Ketchup901> no it's in my main pc
[9:15] <ShorTie> and how are you trying to write the image ??
[9:16] <Ketchup901> I've tried on Windows with Win32DiskImager and Rufus
[9:17] <ShorTie> hmmm, windows, you could try SDFormatter v4 to format
[9:17] <Ketchup901> Tried that
[9:17] <ShorTie> need to adjust the size in options
[9:17] <Ketchup901> It doesn't let me change the size
[9:17] <Ketchup901> just 64MB
[9:17] <Ketchup901> can't change it
[9:18] <ShorTie> is this a built in sdcard reader in like a laptop ??
[9:18] <Ketchup901> no it's external
[9:18] <ShorTie> usb thingy ??
[9:18] <Ketchup901> yeah
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[9:19] <BurtyB> Ketchup901, just write the new image over the top it doesn't need to be formatted
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[9:19] <ShorTie> sortta sounding like a bad sdcard then
[9:19] <ShorTie> got a linux pc around ??
[9:19] <Ketchup901> Yeah I'm on linux right now
[9:20] <Ketchup901> I'm dd'ing the image
[9:20] <Ketchup901> doubt it will work though since it didn't work on windows
[9:20] <ShorTie> try dd (data distroyer) then
[9:21] <ShorTie> you can dd a /dev/null too
[9:21] <Ketchup901> I tried that lol
[9:21] <shauno> my last resort when disks are being uppity is to dd a few kb of /dev/zero over the start of the disk. no mbr, no gpt, no partitions ..
[9:21] <BurtyB> Ketchup901, and what happened?
[9:21] <ShorTie> that will wipe out everything
[9:21] <Ketchup901> nothing
[9:21] <Ketchup901> it was the exact same as before
[9:21] <shauno> has this card ever worked properly?
[9:21] <Ketchup901> yes
[9:21] <Ketchup901> I have used it in my pi
[9:21] <BurtyB> nothing happened? no errors no warnings, nothing in dmesg?
[9:22] <Ketchup901> no it just said 0 bytes written or whatever
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[9:22] <Ketchup901> and then it stayed the same
[9:22] <BurtyB> do you have it in an adapter with write protect in the wrong position?
[9:22] <ShorTie> the pi doesn't care, but is the little plastic read only switch thing in use ??
[9:22] <ShorTie> what was your dd line ??
[9:23] <Ketchup901> `dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdc`
[9:23] <shauno> try /dev/zero instead of /dev/null. null is perpetually an empty file, so there's 0 bytes in it to copy
[9:24] <Ketchup901> I'll try that after this dd is done
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[9:25] <Ketchup901> ShorTie: there is no write-protect switch on microSD cards though?
[9:26] <ShorTie> well then it can't be in the wrong position then i guess
[9:27] <SyncYourDogmas> parted wont care either
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[9:39] <Ascavasaion> I read about GPIO's. Does the Raspberry Pi 1 model B have a GPIO?
[9:40] <ShorTie> all pi's have gpio
[9:40] <Ascavasaion> ShorTie: Aaah, okay, and they are the same size/specs? A projec with parts will work on all models?
[9:40] <Ascavasaion> projec=project
[9:41] <ShorTie> the 1st 26 pins at least
[9:42] <Ascavasaion> thank you ;)
[9:42] <Ascavasaion> :)
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[9:58] <Drzacek> Hello Goldschlager
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[10:18] <yene> Guten Morgen
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[10:32] <Drzacek> Good Morning yene
[10:33] <Drzacek> Good to know there are some people from my local timezone :)
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[10:39] <Ascavasaion> SAST
[10:39] <Ascavasaion> Or GMT + 2
[10:41] <Apicalis> Hello dudes and dudettes
[10:41] <Apicalis> <--- german btw.
[10:42] <hypermist> Im GMT + 12/13
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[10:51] <Ascavasaion> <== South Africa.
[10:51] <Ascavasaion> hypermist: NZ or thereabouts?
[10:51] <hypermist> yus
[10:51] <Ascavasaion> aaaaah
[10:52] <hypermist> took them a week to get my internets on
[10:52] <hypermist> :|
[10:52] <Ascavasaion> hypermist: That is quick... you should try here in South Africa heeh
[10:52] <Apicalis> Does anybody here use the pi as a Smart home server?
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[10:53] <hypermist> Ascavasaion, true
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[10:56] <hypermist> but now i've got it Ascavasaion im like wutdo
[10:56] <hypermist> xD
[10:56] <Ascavasaion> hypermist: What everyone else does... download porn.
[10:56] <hypermist> Ascavasaion, why when i can stream it :P?
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[10:57] <Ascavasaion> hypermist: Do you not mean, why do it at all?
[10:57] <Ascavasaion> HAHA
[10:57] <Ascavasaion> Wait... this is off topic... better behave.
[10:58] <hypermist> Yesh Ascavasaion ;P
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[11:17] <wire11> Hi guys I need the PCRE library to proceed with my openresty installation, and get this error - http://pastebin.centos.org/46711/ - so am wondering how can I manually install the library
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[11:17] <wire11> ideally just scp it into /usr/local/ as the ./configure script will find it
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[11:25] <Drzacek> Apicalis, no, but we could :) whats wrong?
[11:27] <Apicalis> I am actually designing a product on AVR base and we want to make it compatible to FHEM and HomeMatic and as many other smart home systems as possible so i am currently setting up a raspberry as smart home station
[11:28] <Apicalis> And i am trying to hook up a CC1101 868Mhz Module. But i've seen that there are several ways. It's either to make it into a USB device with the help of an arduino, but i have a 32U4 (micro) not a 328P like the nano that's often used
[11:29] <Drzacek> Apicalis, since they are might cheap, just order the other arduino
[11:29] <Drzacek> mighty
[11:30] <Apicalis> i am on a really tight schedule but i just remembered that i should have a nano somewhere around
[11:30] <Apicalis> nice, found it
[11:33] <Drzacek> great
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[11:53] <Apicalis> Ah damn i just remembered why i want to use the 32U4, because it's running on 3.3V and i want to setup the nano with the CC1101 like an actual stick
[11:54] <Apicalis> That should do the trick http://busware.de/tiki-index.php?page=CUL
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[12:00] <mgottschlag> Apicalis: I missed the backlog, but you want to use the avr as a usb host to connect to a usb transceiver? sounds more difficult than picking an SPI transceiver to me
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[12:02] <Apicalis> I could actually directly hook up the CC1101 to the PIO header of the pi
[12:03] <Apicalis> but most people seem to use the other way. And also of course it is more difficult but the program is already written i just have to upload it after i finished wiring it
[12:03] <Apicalis> also i think the drivers seem to be better supported for USB solutions
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[12:07] <Huolon> Does anyone tape their Raspberry pi to the back of a tv?
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[12:07] <Huolon> I’m looking to use it for kodi
[12:07] <mfa298> Huolon: I think there are some vesa mounts for Pi's so you can attach it to the back of the TV
[12:08] <Huolon> Hmm that’s pretty smart
[12:08] <Huolon> Does anyone use a pi for kodi?
[12:08] <Huolon> If so, how do you control it?
[12:09] <Apicalis> I do so and use Yatsee app on my phone
[12:09] <mfa298> I'm using osmc and most control is through the TV remote via CEC
[12:09] <Apicalis> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-yj2Zna1Ic
[12:10] <Huolon> CEC?
[12:11] <oq> Huolon: it's part of the hdmi spec
[12:11] <Huolon> Apicalis Cool thanks, looks like this might work for iPhone https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/official-kodi-remote/id520480364?mt=8
[12:11] <Apicalis> There are several Kodi remotes you can all use
[12:11] <NedScott> I wired three GPIO pins to an IR receiver and can use many different IR remotes
[12:11] <Apicalis> i just picked yatse for mee
[12:11] <NedScott> but I prefer RF or bluetooth remotes
[12:11] <NedScott> using a USB dongle
[12:12] <NedScott> http://kodi.wiki/view/Raspberry_Pi#Remote_controls
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[12:12] <Apicalis> Huolon, the big question. Do u just want an easy media center with no hassle or do u want to optimize it to be as custom as possible?
[12:12] <Huolon> Hmm
[12:12] <Apicalis> If u want it easy like i did: Download OpenElec, install it on your raspberry and use an App like Yatse or whatever
[12:13] <Huolon> I want it to be easy to use because I want family members to be able to use it
[12:13] <Huolon> and Kodi works with my seedbox
[12:13] <Apicalis> If u want to customize it you can use your favorite remote via RF transmitter, Bluetooth or Infrared
[12:13] <Apicalis> But u would have to do some programming
[12:13] <NedScott> It's pretty hard to go wrong with any of the Kodi-distros
[12:13] <Apicalis> Then take the easy solution
[12:13] <NedScott> they're all pretty easy
[12:14] <Apicalis> yeah
[12:14] <NedScott> OSMC, OpenELEC, LibreELEC, Xbian
[12:14] <NedScott> or even something like RetroPie or Recalbox
[12:14] <NedScott> if you want emulators too
[12:14] <mfa298> Huolon: CEC means the TV will send details of what buttons have been pressed to the Pi, so I just need a single remote.
[12:15] <Huolon> Oh cool
[12:15] <Huolon> I’ll be back later
[12:15] <Huolon> Thanks for the help
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[14:57] <Bilby> Too low for anything but a Zero, but 500ma @ 5V from as low as 1.8V? #engineering https://www.adafruit.com/products/1903
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[15:04] <oq> Bilby: adafruit do 1000ma powerboosters too
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[15:06] <mgottschlag> Voltage boosters. Power is fixed. :p
[15:06] <oq> mgottschlag: powerboost is the name of the product
[15:06] <mgottschlag> yeah, and the name doesn't make any sense :D
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[15:07] <ShorTie> you can't boost power
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[15:07] <mgottschlag> well, you can... that's called an amplifier :D
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[15:11] <stoogenmeyer> please continue the discussion.. I know that power can't be "boosted" either, you can draw more from your outlet but I leave it to you fellas to give your supporting arguments
[15:11] <ShorTie> hmmm, doesn't a amplifier transform a lower power into the power that is being supplied ??
[15:11] <ShorTie> so a amp doesn't boost the power, it just copies low to higher
[15:13] <oq> best place to get those, https://www.adafruit.com/products/328, in the uk?
[15:13] <oq> pimoroni, while having a lot of the adafruit stuff, doesn't have them
[15:14] <ShorTie> otherwise i want a amp on my incoming electric, so my bill will go down
[15:14] <stoogenmeyer> ShorTie: copies low to higher doesn't really make much sense
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[15:14] <stoogenmeyer> but I know what you meant, you give back some amperage in return for a higher voltage, or vice versa
[15:15] <stoogenmeyer> see step-up / step-down converter
[15:15] <ShorTie> ok, how about amplitude maybe
[15:17] <stoogenmeyer> what do you mean..?
[15:17] <stoogenmeyer> amplitude is the maximum value something gets to
[15:17] <ShorTie> the level at which the peak is above zero reference
[15:18] <ShorTie> no, never heard of am radio ??
[15:18] <stoogenmeyer> yea so you lower the current amplitude and get a higher voltage amplitude, etc
[15:18] <ShorTie> Amplitude Modulation
[15:18] <stoogenmeyer> yea we basically said the same thing
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[15:33] <Apicalis> Ich just installed Raspbian Jessie onto my pi3. It immediatly booted into the graphic user interface. The problem is that i am using tutorials that use SSH commands. My question is, is SSH already activated? Because in those tutorials during the boot a menu appeared where you could activate SSH, change passwords etc.
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[15:34] <ShorTie> yes ssh is enabled by defualt
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[15:35] <ShorTie> might take a minute or 2 to kick in after boot though
[15:38] <Apicalis> kk so i should be able to use putty on windows to use the SSH
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[15:38] <ozzzy> that's how I do things
[15:39] <oq> Apicalis: I think those tutorials which say you need to activate ssh are like 3+ years out of date
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[15:40] <Apicalis> yeah that's the problem. But all the tutorials i can find for FHEM Servers use that interface
[15:40] <Apicalis> Whats the standard login?
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[15:40] <Drzacek> Apicalis, well, it's easy to find out if ssh is working :D
[15:40] <oq> Apicalis: curious, why are you using the full raspbian image if its for home automation?
[15:41] <Apicalis> oq i know the lite version saves resources but i was afraid some services etc. might be missing
[15:41] <oq> Apicalis: nothing like that should be missing, lite is more like a server image, it says some of the gui bloat
[15:41] <oq> s/says/saves
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[15:42] <Apicalis> well it's my first try so i will be using the full image
[15:42] <Apicalis> i can reinstall it later on
[15:42] <mfa298> on the lite image if there are packages missing you can easily install then
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[15:43] <ozzzy> large capacity SD cards are cheap.... just put everything on
[15:43] <Apicalis> k i logged in now
[15:44] <Apicalis> i will follow the image then
[15:44] <Apicalis> i mean the tutorial
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[15:45] <mfa298> ozzzy: for server type systems good practice would say use the lite image and only install what's needed (the less that's installed the smaller the potential exploit footprint)
[15:46] <ozzzy> just disable the services you don't want, enable the services you do want
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[15:49] <mfa298> ozzzy: Installed packages can still increase the attack vectors (if there's an exploitable binary it can still be used as part of the attack). Also less packages installed means less stuff to keep updated.
[15:49] <Apicalis> I mean it's not a massive amount of stuff to do but it's some work. Is there a way to save some sort of script or something that executes all these command or would it be smarter to just make an image of the SD card after i am finished?
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[15:50] <oq> Apicalis: you can use the tool you used to originally image the sd card to read it and make a backup img file
[15:51] <Apicalis> so option b is the answer
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[15:51] <mfa298> I tend to keep a note of what I've run to setup a system, that way it's easy to re-do on a new (and updated) image
[15:52] <oq> Apicalis: people have also make utilities to knock off the unused space of an image and reexpand when you copy it if storage space is an issure
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[15:58] <Apicalis> Hmm i just received an error during the installation of the smart home software http://pastebin.com/tdaLVVTr
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[15:59] <Apicalis> Looks like something is missing
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[16:00] <pwillard> Latest FULL release goes a bit too far... being no longer able to fit on 4G SD.
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[16:00] <Apicalis> I got a 8GB SD
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[16:03] <yene> so big
[16:03] <Apicalis> Ah i missed one command that leads me to install pearl librarys
[16:03] <Apicalis> *that's what she said yene*
[16:04] <yene> when she saw your car
[16:04] <Apicalis> i dont have one
[16:07] <Drzacek> Apicalis, apt-get one now
[16:08] <Apicalis> i already feel way to nerdy just because i understand that one line of linux commands....
[16:08] <Apicalis> *too
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[16:09] <Apicalis> I can already feel the "linux is way more efficient"-mentality rising
[16:11] <Drzacek> Apicalis, it is unavoidable
[16:11] <Bilby> lol
[16:11] <Drzacek> but hey, not all games run on linux, so there is still reason to use windows :)
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[16:12] <Bilby> inb4 "but you can use WINE blah blah"
[16:12] <Armand> Eff WINE �_�
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[16:13] <Drzacek> Bilby, I use it all the time, even when my PC is turned off
[16:13] <Bilby> lol
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[16:24] <ThePendulum> 'lo
[16:24] <oq> hi
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[16:24] <Apicalis> Nice i setup the FHEM Software and my stick is recognized by FHEM. I can actually read out the config.
[16:25] <ThePendulum> I have a webserver on my Pi. At the moment the Pi connects to the local wifi network and I can access it via that same network. I was wondering if it's possible to have the Pi function as an access point and access the webserver without internet access
[16:26] <JK-47> ThePendulum: depends on your wifi adapter chipset
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[16:27] <ThePendulum> Oh sorry, this is a Pi 3, I'm using/looking/hoping to use its onboard chip
[16:28] <ThePendulum> that said if I can't do it with that but there are dongles available that can do it, I could look into fetching one of those
[16:30] <Drzacek> ThePendulum, how would your rpi get internet connection? I you would use your built-in wifi to act as AP, then it would need another interface to connect to internet (via ethernet cable)? But that would imply that some kind of router must be present. Unless it doesn't need internet and you only want to access Pi using wifi
[16:32] <ThePendulum> Drzacek: I only need to make the webserver available to devices in its vincinity, no need for internet access
[16:32] <ThePendulum> The webserver provides an interface for LEDs controlled by the Pi
[16:32] <Drzacek> Then you should be ok. Can't help you with setting AP because I have no idea :)
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[16:32] <ThePendulum> I want to take my setup to a camping and have people in my group control it with their phones
[16:33] <ThePendulum> But I probably won't have full internet, so I'm going to try for a local setup hehe
[16:33] <ThePendulum> I take it at least should be possible then
[16:34] <Drzacek> ThePendulum, https://learn.adafruit.com/setting-up-a-raspberry-pi-as-a-wifi-access-point/overview
[16:34] <mfa298> There's plenty of guides online for setting up a linux machine as a Wifi AP. Not sure you can do it on the Pi3 wifi currently due to it not supporting the right modes
[16:34] <oq> ThePendulum: iirc you need to install hostapd
[16:35] <oq> mfa298: he could always do ad-hoc? everything supports ad-hoc surely?
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[16:36] <mfa298> plenty of USB wifi dongles should manage AP mode
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[16:41] <ThePendulum> Drzacek: I came across that, I'll have a go in a bit and see if I can do the same without internet
[16:41] <ThePendulum> and indeed only use it ad-hoc
[16:42] <ThePendulum> should be no problem
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[17:03] <computer2000> Guys how to loop a video with omxplayer?
[17:03] <computer2000> --loop flag doesn't seem to work!
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[17:04] <shauno> can't promise it's relevant, but I note that --loop says "Loop file. Ignored if file not seekable"
[17:04] <yene> put it into an endless running script
[17:04] <shauno> so if it's being ignored, you might want to investigate what that means
[17:04] <Chillum> geez, you should be able to loop a file from the start even if it is unseekable. You can generally always seek to the start
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[17:05] <computer2000> shauno: ok ... hmm ... what does it mean
[17:06] <computer2000> I'm trying to loop the example file of raspian with the bunny
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[17:20] <computer2000> omg is it so difficult to loop an mp4 video in raspian?
[17:20] <yene> convert it to a gif
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[17:21] <yene> you you have chrome you can play it in kiosk mode
[17:22] <computer2000> yene: I don't want to use X
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[17:24] <yene> what about my endless loop
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[17:33] <stoogenmeyer> can a raspi3 play hd videos? it won't stutter?
[17:33] <stoogenmeyer> they'll look fine?
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[17:34] <computer2000> How long will compile of omxplayer take on a raspi 3?
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[17:37] <bekks> Until it is finished :)
[17:37] <computer2000> bekks: an hour? a day? a week`
[17:38] <bekks> Just test it out :)
[17:38] <computer2000> bekks: will I get any kind of progress to estimate the remaining duration?
[17:38] <computer2000> I've never compiled stuff myself realy
[17:39] <computer2000> bekks: ^
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[17:42] <bekks> computer2000: Most likely no progress. The one and only application I've seen in two decades having a progress bar upon compilation was/is VirtualBox.
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[17:43] <computer2000> bekks: so do you have an idea, is it gonna be around an hour or more?
[17:43] <bekks> Far more.
[17:43] <computer2000> A day?
[17:44] <mfa298> computer2000: I suspect most people won't be able to tell you unless they try it first.
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[17:45] <mfa298> time is going to depend on the amount of code in it (and to some extent what else the Pi is doing)
[17:45] <Chillum> will it halt?
[17:46] <Chillum> (just a reference to the halting problem)
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[17:50] <ThePendulum> hmm, is it possible to switch from USB power to GPIO power without rebooting? :P
[17:51] <mgottschlag> ThePendulum: you need to be careful that one power source doesn't try to feed power into the other, but apart from that, shouldn't be any problem
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[17:54] <pwillard> compiling Mongodb took forever (many hours). I just let it run overnight.
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[17:54] <computer2000> Compilation of an hour is reasonable for me
[17:54] <computer2000> Any longer must have a real good reason
[17:55] <computer2000> Is there no cloud-compile-service or something like render-farms for cg?
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[17:55] <Chillum> you can cross compile on a faster system if you know how to
[17:56] <Chillum> compiling on a pi reminds me of when I was younger
[17:57] <Chillum> back then you spent all day compiling
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[17:58] <mfa298> computer2000: you can always start the compile going in screen/tmux, that way you can detatch from it and leave the pi doing the compile
[18:00] <devslash> I'm receiving my new RPI today. I have the original model pi pi and I'm getting the PI 3. The PI that I have n ow runs Raspbian and I'm planning on installing Raspbian on the new PI as well. does anyone have any recommendations on anything I can do to make it easier to migrate configuration scripts for different applications that I've installed to the new PI
[18:01] <oq> what were you using the pi1 for?
[18:01] <mfa298> computer2000: of course if the compile takes less than an hour, had you started when you first asked you'd be halfway to knowing the answer now.
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[18:02] <mfa298> devslash: you can potentially copy (scp / rsync) config files over from the old Pi, but it's likely worth checking the new versions first as things might have changed
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[18:03] <devslash> well wouldnt the versions of the software be the same anyways ?>
[18:03] <devslash> I mean, I keep my software up to date
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[18:03] <oq> devslash: an old version of debian would still be an old version of debian
[18:03] <mfa298> depends when you got the image for your Pi1
[18:04] <devslash> i know. im talking about the configuration files for specific software like nginx, php, mysql
[18:04] <mfa298> If you've had it runnign over a year then it'll be on an older release of raspbian (wheezy) which isn't compatible with the Pi3
[18:04] <oq> and newer debian repos would have newer software
[18:04] <oq> for example debian jessie doesn't have php7
[18:05] <devslash> i think the rpi i have now is running jessie
[18:05] <mfa298> nginx looks like it went from 1.2 to 1.6 from wheezy to jessie
[18:05] <devslash> which one is newer jessie or wheezie
[18:05] <oq> you would need stretch for php7
[18:05] <computer2000> mfa298: I'm compiling since about 30min already
[18:05] <oq> devslash: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Debian_releases#Release_table
[18:05] <mfa298> devslash: you can look at /etc/debian_version, 8.0 is jessie
[18:05] <devslash> I think that thats what Im running
[18:06] <devslash> on my existing pi
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[18:06] <mfa298> possibly the major difference between wheezy and jessie is that jessie uses systemd
[18:06] <pwillard> your init scripts might be totally bogus now
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[18:09] <mfa298> computer2000: if it's just to use the latest release of omxplayer from a link on the first google hit someone does binary packages http://omxplayer.sconde.net/
[18:09] <mfa298> although presumably if you did some looking you found that already and it's not suitable
[18:10] <computer2000> mfa298: that deb package doesn't include the most recent fixes
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[18:10] <devslash> im not talking about init scripts
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[18:12] <pwillard> I developed a weatherstation with web gui using mysql & PHP on a Pi V1. I had no real issues updating it.
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[18:12] <pwillard> other than some grumbling about Systemd
[18:13] <mfa298> computer2000: and there's actually a fix you need since then (most of the fixes look to dbus so I'm not sure they'll help if your issue is looping videos)
[18:13] <computer2000> mfa298: https://github.com/popcornmix/omxplayer/issues/468#issuecomment-225621016
[18:13] <computer2000> this should be fixed in most recent commit
[18:14] <mfa298> devslash: check what release is on your Pi1, if it's Jessie (debian_version 8) then you can probably just copy the relevant configs over. I'd tend to prefer editing the configs based at looking at the diffs I it can help remove old stuff thats of no use
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[18:22] <computer2000> mfa298: is this how a normal compilation looks like? http://i.imgur.com/xvxC7AU.png
[18:23] <mfa298> computer2000: it's what some look like
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[18:26] <computer2000> mfa298: YOO compiled!!! Took about an hour - but most of the time was for compiling ffmpeg
[18:26] <computer2000> and it works now... thank god phew
[18:27] <computer2000> or whoever
[18:27] <computer2000> makers of omxplayer
[18:27] <computer2000> and you guys
[18:27] <computer2000> and the spirit of my passed away cat Mischa
[18:27] <Adran> so I have a pi v1 b that I've never stopped having issues with . :/
[18:28] <Adran> 512 version, it will run for months at a time, and then corruption on the sd card.
[18:28] <Adran> I have the original 128 version, works great, but this poor little pi never seems to work, any ideas how to troubleshoot it?
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[18:31] <oq> Adran: overclocking? Is the psu good?
[18:31] <Adran> psu is good, overclocking nope
[18:31] <oq> powering it off properly?
[18:31] <Adran> yeah
[18:31] <Adran> poweroff / shutdown I presume?
[18:31] <oq> yeah
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[18:32] <Adran> I've done hard poweroffs on my Pi 2 and 128 Pi
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[18:32] <Adran> Never had issues - I know that it is pretty bad though.
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[18:35] <pwillard> *can* lead to SD corruption
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[18:39] <gordonDrogon> pwillard, jessie runs jsut fine without systemd ..
[18:40] <pwillard> and I am doing that... actually
[18:41] <pwillard> apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove systemd ;-p
[18:41] <gordonDrogon> I usually follow this: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation
[18:41] <pwillard> old school (you kids get off my lawn!)
[18:43] <pwillard> Ohhh good site
[18:43] <oq> wow that domain name, someone must really hold a grudge
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[18:44] <pwillard> Not all of us like this kind of change in the Unix 'religion'.
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[18:45] <gordonDrogon> kids of today, etc.
[18:45] <pwillard> I've kept systemd on systems I don't do much with... but on my daily driver..its back to what I know.
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[18:46] <pwillard> sure I could learn systemd... but then I could still be using Vi. Choices are made.
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[18:48] <gordonDrogon> I use vi .. (vim)
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[18:56] <computer2000> hey, I just compiled omxplayer, how do I port it to other Pis now? Is there like a package that I can copy over?
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[19:01] <pwillard> didn't the compilation create files in a folder that were the targets?
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[19:06] <curlyears> I don't quite understand all the vehemence over systemd
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[19:07] <curlyears> and I use vi (original vi, not vim)
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[19:07] <curlyears> been using vi since 1982
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[19:09] <curlyears> but, to be fair, I didn't get "in" to computers until I wasn an ancient 22 years old
[19:09] <stoogenmeyer> pwillard: what do you use instead of systemd? all I know other that that is upstart
[19:09] <gordonDrogon> ye olde sysv-init.
[19:09] <methuzla> sysv
[19:09] <stoogenmeyer> sysv is what goes in /etc/init.d right?
[19:09] <pwillard> Yup the old fashioned init system
[19:09] <stoogenmeyer> and upstart in /etc/init
[19:09] <pwillard> It works
[19:10] <gordonDrogon> I used file-rc for a while on some embedded systems I built.
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[19:13] <pwillard> which is great for simple scripts you want running, I agree
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[19:32] <jamesl> Anyone got the latest magpi? The "hack an RC controller" project is my project!
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[19:33] <jamesl> hey keanu73
[19:33] <Keanu73> oh jamesl? XD hey
[19:33] <jamesl> have you got the latest magpi?
[19:33] <Keanu73> ..no
[19:34] <Keanu73> all I have is a Raspberry Pi 2 B+
[19:34] <Keanu73> from 2 years ago
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[19:36] <jamesl> ok, okay
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[19:38] <oq> jamesl: page 70? https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi-issues/MagPi46.pdf
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[19:39] <jamesl> yes
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[19:41] <pwillard> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard#/media/File:Space-cadet.jpg Wow... cool keyboard.
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[19:42] <oq> pwillard: looks a bit grimy
[19:43] <pwillard> sure...
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[19:45] <nasso> trying to troubleshoot why my pi wont boot...
[19:45] <nasso> there is a red led and there is a raspberry in the upper corner on the screen
[19:45] <oq> nasso: connected to a monitor?
[19:45] <nasso> but nothing is happening
[19:45] <nasso> oq: yes
[19:46] <jamesl> a ton of water
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[19:46] <gordonDrogon> jamesl, good use of wiringPi :)
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[19:46] <jamesl> thanks
[19:47] <jamesl> if you use Jessie Lite, you need to install it first
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[19:49] <methuzla> nasso what model pi? what os and how did you install it?
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> think I'm ok with the wiringPi installation :)
[19:50] <nasso> methuzla: i think it's the very first model. retropi. installed with ApplePi-baker on os x
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[19:57] <nasso> it has Raspberry pi (c)2011,12 printed on it
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[20:00] <pwillard> Sounds like the 256 original A unit
[20:02] <pwillard> These had rather weak SD card sockets... is your socket OK?
[20:02] <methuzla> nasso, no wired network port, and only one USB port?
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[20:04] <Chillum> is it this one: http://g03.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1y53jHVXXXXaUXpXXq6xXFXXXk/Hot-In-stock-Raspberry-Pi-Model-A-plus-board-Credit-card-Sized-Computer-Module-RPi-A.jpg ?
[20:04] <nasso> it has wired. two usd
[20:04] <nasso> *usb
[20:05] <nasso> no, not that one
[20:05] <Chillum> oh
[20:05] <methuzla> original B then
[20:05] <Chillum> this one: http://www.vesalia.de/pic/raspberrypirs.jpg
[20:05] <nasso> yup. looks like it
[20:05] <nasso> yes
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[20:05] <Chillum> pi b
[20:06] <nasso> there is a solid red and solid green light
[20:06] <nasso> i couldnt see the green before through the case
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[20:06] <nasso> still just a raspberry in the upper left corner
[20:07] <nasso> the sd card socket looks fine at least
[20:07] <methuzla> nasso, probably a bad image on the SD card
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[20:07] <nasso> ok. i'll try to flash something else, not retropi
[20:08] <methuzla> and here's the recommended way to image on mac: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/mac.md
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[20:10] <nasso> kk. i'll try that method with retropi first
[20:11] <methuzla> or a known good image
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[20:11] <nasso> retropi looks like a pretty big and popular project
[20:12] <nasso> but ill try rasbian too
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[20:13] <methuzla> flashing an image is pretty trivial. if you suspect something may be wrong with your board, start simple, like jessie lite.
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[20:13] <methuzla> if that works, move on from there.
[20:13] <nasso> have never tried noobs :)
[20:13] <nasso> will do
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[20:13] <methuzla> noobs is different
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[20:14] <nasso> just as a fast and simple way to see if the raspberry works
[20:14] <nasso> i havn't used it for a long time
[20:15] <Rooxo> does anyone here run gentoo on the pi?
[20:15] <methuzla> i'd use one of the jessie images, since you'll need to verify you can flash an image to the SD card
[20:15] <methuzla> noobs doesn't require imaging, you just format FAT32 and dump a bunch of stuff on it
[20:16] <mfa298> nasso: looking at the retropi download page you need to select the right version for your Pi, the Pi 2/3 image won't work on the original Pi
[20:16] <oq> imaging isn't any more complicated than formatting to fat32 too
[20:16] <Lartza> Rooxo, You'll get better answers by asking the real questions you have
[20:16] <nasso> mfa298: yeah. i selected the Pi 1 version
[20:16] <oq> you just download win32diskimager, select the drive, select the image file, and off you go
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[20:17] <Rooxo> well i was just wondering how much build space you need to install the kernel sources on the pi, because i always get an error and i figured it was because my sd card was to small
[20:18] <Lartza> I doubt that
[20:18] <Lartza> Or actually maybe
[20:19] <Lartza> You'll need more than a gigabyte
[20:19] <Rooxo> i wanted to try crossbuilding, but i couldn't get the gentoo crossbuild to work on my arch machine
[20:19] <Lartza> Why not run Arch on the Pi? :D
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[20:20] <Rooxo> i tried that but after i first installed it the home directory was corrupted and i couldn't log in as not root
[20:20] <Rooxo> when i reinstalled it didn't boot
[20:20] <Rooxo> so i thought why not try gentoo
[20:20] <Lartza> You'll have a fairly poor experience without distcc with Gentoo
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[20:20] <Rooxo> yeah, i thought so
[20:20] <Rooxo> maybe ill just install it on another hard drive and crossbuild on my laptop from that
[20:21] <Lartza> I've ran Gentoo on either my Pi 1 or 2, and on a Pentium 4 and the experience was relatively same :P
[20:21] <Lartza> But with the Pi it was manageable after I crossbuilt on my desktop, Pentium 4 was my only PC back in the day ;)
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[20:22] <Lartza> Arch should not have such issues either though so, dunno what's on with that
[20:23] <Lartza> I've ran my Pi's on Arch for as long as I can remember
[20:23] <Rooxo> yeah pretty strange i have never had that issue anywhere before
[20:23] <Rooxo> whenever i logged in as non root, it logged me out immediately, on ssh i saw the error
[20:23] <Rooxo> apparently it was because i couldn't cd to home
[20:24] <Lartza> Did you follow the installation instructions exactly?
[20:24] <Lartza> On the alarm site
[20:24] <Rooxo> jep
[20:24] <Rooxo> the strange thing was the permissions on that directory were right
[20:24] <Rooxo> i don't know why i wouldn't be able to cd there
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[20:26] <Rooxo> i had the suspicion that the sd card was corrupted but i checked it and didn't find anything
[20:26] <Rooxo> and with the gentoo instalation everything works
[20:26] <Rooxo> except building the kernel sources...
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[20:35] <pwillard> Isn't cd and internal command? meaning you can't 'sudo cd'
[20:36] <oq> pwillard: sudo: cd: command not found
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[20:38] <Rooxo> well when you log in as a user the first command executed is cd ~
[20:38] <Rooxo> but apparently it didn't let me do that
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[21:14] <GRiZL0C> i dont know if this is off-topic but i'm excited about Microsofts scorpio project 4k gaming and vr at 6 teraflops graphic power
[21:14] <GRiZL0C> cant wait to see that
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[21:37] <JakeSays> hey does anyone know where i might get a copy of the raspbian wheezy softfloat image?
[21:37] <up2late> google know
[21:37] <up2late> google knows*
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[21:39] <up2late> 1
[21:39] <up2late> down vote
[21:39] <up2late>
[21:39] <up2late> No current version of Ubuntu can run on the Raspberry Pi. Ubuntu only support later ARM architectures.
[21:39] <up2late> Debian soft-float is no longer available for download from raspberrypi.org. The last version they had is mirrored at ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/downloads.raspberrypi.org/images/debian/7/2013-05-29-wheezy-armel/2013-05-29-wheezy-armel.zip
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[21:39] <up2late> Raspbian (rather cheekily called Debian Wheezy) is a recompilation of the Debian packages for hard-float. It is not soft-float and as far as I'm aware is not supported by Debian.
[21:40] <JakeSays> up2late: dude your google fu is spot on! thanks
[21:40] <ShorTie> raspbian came to be because Debian does not support armv6
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[21:41] <JakeSays> actually they do now
[21:41] <JakeSays> well, "with a custom kernel"
[21:41] <giddles> i run ubuntu mate :D
[21:41] <giddles> eh?
[21:41] <giddles> or is this expert talk
[21:41] <giddles> and ubuntu mate is no ubuntu
[21:42] <JakeSays> up2late: dang that link is bad :(
[21:42] <giddles> mirrorservice.org
[21:42] <giddles> whats that
[21:42] <giddles> a honypot
[21:42] <giddles> :D
[21:42] <shauno> :(
[21:42] <JakeSays> this is what i get for deleting those old images :(
[21:43] <ShorTie> raspbian old images are still there
[21:43] <JakeSays> ShorTie: still where?
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[21:44] <ShorTie> http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian/images/
[21:44] <JakeSays> ShorTie: oh crap. lol thanks!
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[21:44] <up2late> lol
[21:44] <ShorTie> No Problem
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[21:45] <JakeSays> now hopefully one of my pi1's still works
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[21:48] <mfa298> JakeSays: most of the raspbian images will work on the Pi1.
[21:49] <mfa298> softfloat will likely be slow.
[21:49] <JakeSays> yes but they're hardfloat, arent they?
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[21:49] <ShorTie> not the early 1's
[21:49] <ShorTie> or i do believe
[21:50] <mfa298> why do you *need* softfloat
[21:50] <JakeSays> testing
[21:50] <JakeSays> i'm porting parts of chromium to an arm1176jz-s board
[21:50] <Bilby> i thought HF was the better version / SF was "old"?
[21:50] <JakeSays> and i need a bigger machine to debug with
[21:51] <JakeSays> Bilby: not old, just not hard
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[21:51] <mfa298> ah fair enough, that sounds like a plausible reason.
[21:51] <Bilby> JakeSays: ah okay
[21:52] <ShorTie> if your going with an old image, i wouldn't do a update
[21:52] <mfa298> Bilby: HF should be faster than SF, but I think the Pi1 CPU was odd in being armv6 with hardfloat.
[21:53] <ShorTie> it took special compiling to get hard float to work on armv6
[21:53] <JakeSays> ShorTie: yeah i wont update
[21:53] <mfa298> But I can fully understand JakeSays' need for a SF image for testing other armv6 boards that presumably don't have hardfloat support
[21:53] <JakeSays> mfa298: this one doesnt, unfortunately.
[21:53] <JakeSays> getting chromium on it has been an interesting challenge
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[22:02] <raspbian> it sounds like you're pinging me with all that 'raspbian' talk haha
[22:03] <oq> change nicks then
[22:03] * ShorTie concures
[22:03] <Bilby> yeah not the best nick for in here :P
[22:03] <Bilby> it'd be like going into #microsoft and naming yourself Windows :P
[22:03] <raspbian> i dont really mind it
[22:03] <raspbian> haha
[22:04] <oq> Bilby: no it would be like naming your self winbows
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[22:53] <kromag> Who was it here that said they were running: Ubuntu Mate :: on their rPi?
[22:53] <kromag> giddles, I think it was?
[22:54] <kromag> I wanted to know how it was running and how much of a PITA it was to get running.
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[22:54] <kromag> I am thinking about, finally, putting it on my rPi3
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[22:55] <kromag> also, why do they still even sell the Pi1's and such?
[22:55] <kromag> is there some sort of special purpose for them?
[22:56] <methuzla> who's they?
[22:56] <kromag> cause are not the Pi3's significantly better and for the same Price
[22:56] <kromag> well Amazon and places similar to that
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[22:56] <kromag> that's where I got mine
[22:56] <kromag> I baught a while kit for 75 usd
[22:56] <ozzzy> if you don't need the horsepower why pay the extra money
[22:56] <kromag> whole*
[22:56] <methuzla> existing stock
[22:56] <kromag> ozzzy, what I am saying though, is that they're the same price
[22:56] <kromag> from what my shopping has been showing
[22:57] <kromag> at least a month ago when I purchased the Pi3 it was
[22:57] <kromag> I couldn't understand or find out why
[22:57] <kromag> figured there must have been some special use maybe I don't know
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[22:57] <kromag> or maybe only certain things work with it
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[22:57] <kromag> methuzla, true
[22:58] <oq> kromag: they're not still making them of course
[22:58] <kromag> oh ok
[22:58] <kromag> I think methuzla, is right on tho
[22:58] <kromag> only thing that makes sense
[22:58] <oq> and pretty obvious?
[22:58] <kromag> well not when you're hopped up on pain pills ma
[22:58] <kromag> man
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[22:59] <kromag> I can't help seeing the obvious
[22:59] <kromag> I'm going to my doctor tomorrow to talk about the strength of these pills they give me
[22:59] <kromag> they make me completely different people say
[22:59] <oq> kromag: what pills?
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[22:59] <ozzzy> you can get a Pi 2 for $43CAD, probably cheaper if I looked
[22:59] <kromag> Oxycodone and OxyContin
[23:00] <kromag> ozzzy, yeah I seen them cheaper
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[23:00] <oq> isn't that stuff super addictive?
[23:00] <kromag> amazon usually does me right
[23:00] <kromag> oq:: hell yeah it is
[23:00] <kromag> I am whicked addicted
[23:00] <kromag> I have been complaining about it
[23:00] <ozzzy> I don't buy from Amazon... it's always the most expensive here
[23:01] <kromag> How I was able to tell was I had fell down my stairs cause a tumor opened up on my foot;
[23:01] <kromag> and took more than usual pain meds which led me to run out
[23:01] <kromag> then when I did not have any for 10+ hours
[23:01] <kromag> I had serious withdrawels
[23:01] <oq> ozzzy: well I suppose anything would be expensive in CAD nowadays
[23:01] <kromag> couldn't stop moving my legs
[23:01] <kromag> ozzzy, where are you located?
[23:01] <kromag> that it's more expensive
[23:02] <kromag> sorry to hear that too cause I have had excellent experience with Amazon
[23:02] <GreeningGalaxy> newb question: how do you make wiringPi use the BCM numbering for the GPIO pins instead of the Pi1 "Raspberry Pi Name" numberings in C++?
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[23:02] <ozzzy> Canada
[23:02] <GreeningGalaxy> on my Pi 2 I can only use the upper part of my GPIO because it's using the old numbering scheme
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> GreeningGalaxy, in a C program use: wiringPiSetupGpio ()
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[23:03] <oq> gordonDrogon: do you have a highlight setup for wiringpi?
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[23:03] <gordonDrogon> GreeningGalaxy, wiringPi numbers work over all Pi's as do the physical pin numbers - type: gpio readall for the pinnout diagram.
[23:03] <GreeningGalaxy> ohhh thanks
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[23:03] <gordonDrogon> oq, yes.
[23:03] <kromag> ozzzy, Nice place... I was just with a friend before Christmas whom is from Canada... he was down in Florida for school semester... and now I am up here closer to you in New England... which I can not stand at all.
[23:04] <kromag> I grew up around here but I hate this type of weather with a passion!
[23:04] <oq> old england is better
[23:04] <kromag> oq, agreed
[23:04] <kromag> more culture
[23:04] <oq> lol "culture"
[23:04] <kromag> lol
[23:04] <gordonDrogon> yea, it's just cold & damp here ..
[23:04] <kromag> well y'all do have culture
[23:04] <kromag> is that not how you spell it or something?
[23:05] <oq> no culture to be found where I live
[23:05] <oq> chavs more likely
[23:05] <kromag> I heard of someone being called that once
[23:05] <kromag> my friend from brittian use to say it
[23:05] <kromag> what does that mean?
[23:05] <kromag> to you
[23:05] <oq> kromag: the uk equivalent of white trash
[23:05] <kromag> ah makes sense then when he said it lol
[23:06] <gordonDrogon> it's quite derogatory.
[23:06] <GreeningGalaxy> I notice that the EEPROM pins are GPIO 0 and GPIO 1. is it safe to use those as GPIOs?
[23:06] <kromag> yeah but if you're an american it's under the hood derogatory
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[23:06] <oq> gordonDrogon: some are proud to be chavs
[23:06] <gordonDrogon> GreeningGalaxy, as long as you don't have a HAT plugged in.
[23:06] <kromag> it would go totally unknowted
[23:06] <GreeningGalaxy> I remember reading it wasn't, but I also read that it wasn't safe to use the "DNC" pins on the original pi which are really just perfectly normal grounds
[23:06] <kromag> oq, that's how it is in american too man
[23:06] <kromag> it's whacked
[23:07] <kromag> like parts of north eastern Florida
[23:07] <gordonDrogon> GreeningGalaxy, there were plans for some of the DNC pins at one point.
[23:07] <kromag> they have big huge RedNeck Get togethers
[23:07] <oq> they embrace the tracksuits and everywhere
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[23:07] <kromag> and brag about it
[23:07] <oq> *everything
[23:07] <kromag> no teeth nothing man
[23:07] <kromag> just a beat up truck and half a phone between the whole fam
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[23:07] <kromag> tracksuits?
[23:08] <gordonDrogon> shell suit - sportswear ...
[23:09] <kromag> lmao
[23:09] <kromag> no way
[23:09] <kromag> like spandex?
[23:09] <oq> no..
[23:09] <kromag> oh
[23:09] <kromag> I had an awful image in my mind for a moment
[23:09] <oq> kromag: http://media.thedailytouch.com/2015/06/chavs.jpg
[23:10] <GreeningGalaxy> my case that has all the other pins marked on it leaves GPIO 0 and GPIO 1 unmarked
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[23:12] <kromag> how does a gertboard provide safety for connecting your pi to external devices?
[23:13] <pksato> kromag: using transivers. 245 or similar.
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[23:14] <kromag> oh so it comes pre-setup with those?
[23:14] <kromag> so it's just so your board doesn't get a jolt or something and render it useless?
[23:14] <kromag> like too much power
[23:14] <GreeningGalaxy> gordonDrogon: what do you mean by "if you don't have a HAT plugged in?"
[23:15] <gordonDrogon> GreeningGalaxy, HAT devices use those pins to access an on-board eeprob.
[23:15] <GreeningGalaxy> ahh, okay
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[23:15] <alesan> hello
[23:15] <alesan> can somebody explain to me what is turbo FB?
[23:16] <oq> turbo as in like a cpu governor?
[23:16] <alesan> no as in a display driver
[23:16] <pksato> kromag: http://www.petervis.com/Raspberry_PI/Gertboard_Raspberry_Pi_Expansion/Gertboard_Buffered_I_O.html
[23:16] <alesan> I am confused myself, not sure if it's a kernel thing or an X thing
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[23:20] <GreeningGalaxy> as in 99-fbturbo.conf?
[23:21] <GreeningGalaxy> I think its just for additional hardware acceleration or something
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[23:23] <alesan> yeah but...
[23:24] <kromag> pksato, thank you.
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[23:31] <ItAx> Hello, everyone. I have 2x RPI. I'm trying to make some sort of cctv with them. One rpi is running mjpeg-streamer with mjpeg format while other rpi is connected to a monitor and trying to run that mjpeg stream using omxplayer. The problem is that omxplayer doesn't seem to run mjpeg format :/ I only see blank screen. If i change mjpeg to yuc format everything runs fine, but yuc consumes much more cpu than mjpeg. Any suggestions?
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[23:32] <oq> ItAx: why mjpeg?
[23:32] <JakeSays> i have a gertboard that never seemed to work
[23:32] <oq> heh, neat http://www.pleasetakecareofmyplant.com/
[23:32] <ItAx> oq what else do you suggest?
[23:33] <oq> ItAx: h264?
[23:33] <ItAx> well it would be nice if I could run h264
[23:33] <oq> also with cctv I'd imagine you'd want low latency right?
[23:34] <ItAx> latency is not that big of a problem actually
[23:34] <ItAx> it could be 5-10sec
[23:34] <ItAx> it's a temporary solution until I can afford a true camera
[23:34] <oq> the current trick is to pipe a raspivid stream over with netcat and have mplayer/gstreamer on the recieving end
[23:34] <ItAx> ah I forgot to mention that i'm using usb camera, not the pi module
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[23:35] <oq> oh
[23:36] <ItAx> So any other solution for usb camera other than mjpeg streamer?
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[23:40] <Berg> hi all
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[23:45] <JakeSays> yeah mpeg streamer is pretty crappy
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[23:53] <majorshake> anybody tried the RISC image?
[23:53] <majorshake> I just tried to put it on card and run it on pi3 and pi2 with no luck.
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[23:55] <mfa298> majorshake: if you mean the riscos images I used an early one on a Pi1, but not tried it more recently
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[23:56] <majorshake> I'm trying it again, but writing with a smaller block size.
[23:56] <majorshake> sudo dd if=./images/riscos-2015-02-17-RC14.img of=/dev/sda bs=1M
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[23:58] <mfa298> it may not run on a Pi3 as it may not have the required support
[23:59] <mfa298> looks like it's from only just after the Pi2 launched so I wonder if it's got support for that
[23:59] <majorshake> yeah, seems to be working with a pi2, but only when written with a smaller block size

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