#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-06-14

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[0:00] <mfa298> odd, I wouldn't have though the blocksize for dd would make a differnce
[0:00] <majorshake> I've had weird issues with Raspbian images before
[0:00] <majorshake> but recently i've been using 4M without issue
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[0:01] <majorshake> RISC is really different
[0:01] <gordonDrogon> the block size in dd really has no significance here.
[0:01] <majorshake> I think I used something like it in school
[0:01] <majorshake> gordonDrogon: I know it shouldn't, but it's the only variable that I changed.
[0:02] <gordonDrogon> riscos is somewhat old now.
[0:02] <majorshake> I think we had Acorn PC's at my school.
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[0:02] <mfa298> majorshake: Acorn computers (the origins of arm and riscos) were popular in schools mid 90s
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[0:02] <gordonDrogon> it has a small following though. I had an Acorn Arc waaaayyy back with it on, but as soon as I could have a personal unix box I dumped it.
[0:02] <JakeSays> raspi-config could use a serious overhaul
[0:02] * mfa298 still has a BBC master and RiscPC
[0:03] <majorshake> My school was weird. Science dept. had Acorns, ICT had Apples and then the "workshop" had BBC's
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[0:04] <JakeSays> my school had commodore pets, trs80 model 1's, apple 2's and an hp 2000.
[0:04] <GreeningGalaxy> my physics department has nothing but iMacs
[0:04] <GreeningGalaxy> and, more recently, an increasing abundance of Pis
[0:05] <majorshake> It's been a few years since I was in school, so no pi's :)
[0:05] <oq> my school had crap windows 98 machines
[0:05] <GreeningGalaxy> but I don't think any of the faculty would be caught dead using windows :P
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[0:08] <ckeltz> finally got around to ordering my pi3, hyped
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[0:08] <GreeningGalaxy> my professor wants to get an Ubuntu box to use for the 3D printer
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[0:08] <GreeningGalaxy> slicing and such is still a bit above what a Pi 3 can do in reasonable timeframes I guess (by all means tell me if I'm wrong here but that's what we're seeing)
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[0:09] <JakeSays> thats where a 64bit os and apps would come in handy
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[0:09] <majorshake> anybody had any issues with the wifi on the pi3 slowing to a crawl?
[0:09] <oq> 64bit soc on the pi with no 64bit os
[0:10] <majorshake> even for ssh and the like
[0:10] <oq> majorshake: turn off powersave
[0:10] <oq> *power management
[0:10] <majorshake> oq: powersave in the wireless hardware or?
[0:10] <GreeningGalaxy> you can probably do that through powertop
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[0:10] <oq> majorshake: http://www.modmypi.com/blog/disable-wifi-power-management
[0:10] <oq> majorshake: that is supposed to fix a lot of problems
[0:11] <majorshake> oq: this makes reference to dongles
[0:11] <majorshake> this is the built-in wifi
[0:11] <JakeSays> i'm sitting here wondering why my pi doesnt have a dhcp address.. i'm thinking it may have something to do with the empty hole where the ethernet cable should go.
[0:11] <oq> the same applies
[0:11] <majorshake> would it have the same effect?
[0:11] <majorshake> ah, ok
[0:12] <oq> majorshake: you just add "wireless-power off" to /etc/network/interfaces
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[0:14] <oq> majorshake: also been using rpi-update?
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[0:16] <majorshake> nope :)
[0:17] <ckeltz> rip-update generally helps solve odd issues
[0:18] <ckeltz> err, rpi-update rather
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[0:25] <majorshake> I hate foreign keyboards.
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[0:28] <oq> yeah, american layouts are the worst
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[0:29] <majorshake> try scandinavian. curly braces are on the number keys.
[0:30] <majorshake> I have a Norwegian and a Polish keyboard for my pis.
[0:30] <majorshake> Polish is much easier.
[0:30] <majorshake> but still a pain in the arse
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[0:35] <JakeSays> besides changing /etc/ssh/sshd_config to allow root login, what else needs to be done?
[0:35] <JakeSays> oh give root a pwd
[0:36] <jamesd> and restart sshd
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[0:36] <JakeSays> ah right
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[5:05] <Valduare> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1485791
[5:05] <Valduare> rackmount case for raspberry pi :)
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[5:10] <kromag> that's pretty cool
[5:10] <JK-47> Why not may a bay for multiple?
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[5:13] <kromag> man there's so much you can do with Pi
[5:13] <kromag> I love it
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[5:21] <DWKnight> I'm tempted to re-purpose all my pis into a cluster
[5:22] <kromag> That's what I am looking at after this next project
[5:22] <kromag> I want an 8node pi cluster
[5:22] <kromag> and to run a server off oit
[5:22] <kromag> it
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[5:24] <Valduare> why
[5:26] <DWKnight> something to do
[5:27] <Valduare> look into openhab?
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[5:30] <JakeSays> hmm. so the pi3 has a cortex-a53 based soc, right?
[5:30] <JakeSays> or is it the a57
[5:31] <DWKnight> a53
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[5:31] <wil_syd2> http://www.bitscope.com/product/blade/?p=about
[5:32] <JakeSays> huh. interesting
[5:33] <wil_syd2> 32bit Rasbian reports it as a armv7l.
[5:34] <kromag> wow
[5:34] <JakeSays> yeah the os wouldnt report the core model - just the arch.
[5:35] <Valduare> any cool ideas for this pi0 sitting here on my desk?
[5:35] <JakeSays> burn it
[5:37] <methuzla> take advantage of market conditions and sell it on ebay for 5000% of retail
[5:37] <JakeSays> wow those blades are cheaper than i thought they would be
[5:38] <kromag> how much did they say?
[5:39] <JakeSays> they start at around $40
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[5:42] <kromag> nb
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[5:43] <Valduare> any news on pi3 full usb booting?
[5:43] <Valduare> or pxe
[5:43] <JakeSays> i wasnt aware that was a thing
[5:44] <Valduare> they announced it day pi3 launched
[5:44] <Valduare> said they just had little bit more to finish and then it would be available
[5:44] <JakeSays> interesting
[5:44] <wil_syd2> <Valduare>any news on pi3 full usb booting?
[5:45] <wil_syd2> I'm waiting on that also.
[5:46] <TheJackofClubs> could you have something on sd that points to usb or pxe?
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[5:50] <Valduare> TheJackofClubs: they are talking about not needing sd card at all
[5:50] <Valduare> boot straight off usb or network
[5:50] <Valduare> say goodbye to sd corruption heh
[5:51] <JakeSays> say goodbye to losing the little things
[5:51] <Valduare> lol
[5:51] <Valduare> I use a mini altoids tin for all my sd cards and adapters
[5:51] <Valduare> even took a usb sd card reader out of its casing so it fit in the tin as well lol
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[5:54] <TheJackofClubs> oh yeah that sd card corruption thing, good point
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[5:54] <TheJackofClubs> too bad theres no write protection like on full size sd cards
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[5:56] <Valduare> I thought that little switch was there to infuriorate me
[5:56] <Valduare> always slides to locked when inserting and cant flash it heh
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[6:48] <Goldschlager> Hello
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[6:49] <avenger> helo
[6:49] <avenger> +l
[6:51] <Goldschlager> hows it going
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[6:53] <avenger> ok, you?
[6:54] <Goldschlager> oh good,
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[7:08] <TheJackofClubs> i like ubuntu mate, reminds me of old versions of ubuntu, didnt realize how much i missed gnome 2
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[7:23] <Ascavasaion> TheJackofClubs: Gnome 2 was nice... Unity is just awful.
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[7:25] <TheJackofClubs> i dont hate unity, and i get why they use it on ubuntu, but damn if gnome 2 doesnt just feel better to use
[7:26] <Ascavasaion> Exactly.
[7:26] <TheJackofClubs> ive never full on used gnome 3, i just went with the flow of using unity
[7:26] <Ascavasaion> The same as I get the Windows 8/10 look, but I still do not like it.
[7:27] <TheJackofClubs> its a shame they killed off gnome 2, but im happy mate is here
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[7:28] <TheJackofClubs> exactly, i was excited to use windows 8's new ui at first, but after a few years i became to hate it
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[7:30] <Valduare> i got to that stage just looking at the marketing pictures TheJackofClubs lol
[7:32] <Ascavasaion> Valduare: same
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[8:31] <Drzacek> Good morning
[8:31] <Goldschlager> hello
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[8:33] <hypermist> hmm *trys to think what to use my pi3 pi2 and pi1 for*
[8:33] <hypermist> anyone ?
[8:33] <Drzacek> I was wondering, is it possible to run Wine on Rpi? I know it is a different architecture, but maybe there is a way?
[8:33] <Goldschlager> possibilities are endless
[8:34] <hypermist> Goldschlager, not when you dont have a creative mind 9/10 :D
[8:34] <Drzacek> hypermist, sell pi1, leave pi3 for test, and build star trek-like panels on pi2
[8:34] <hypermist> Drzacek, noo i wont sell my pi's ;p
[8:34] <hypermist> because i can go 0 1 2 3 now ;D
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[8:36] <Drzacek> Well, I always liked all those portable projects
[8:37] <Drzacek> tiny tiny laptops, Pi Boy/grl, pipboys
[8:37] <hypermist> well im still awaiting all my parts from china to do my pigrrlzero xD
[8:38] <Drzacek> hypermist, we all know that :D I don't think there has been a time in last year when I wasn't "expecting" something from china
[8:38] <hypermist> yea. i dont buy direct from most companies because i just go meh cheaper i'll wait :D
[8:39] <hypermist> so im trying to find projects to do Drzacek and well xD
[8:40] <Drzacek> don'd do Drzacek
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[8:40] <Drzacek> *don't
[8:40] <hypermist> why ?
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[8:41] <Drzacek> just don't
[8:41] <hypermist> okay
[8:41] <Drzacek> hypermist, you got your LCD working?
[8:42] <hypermist> hasn't even arrived
[8:42] <hypermist> xD
[8:42] <Drzacek> What did you ordered?
[8:42] <hypermist> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-2-2-Serial-SPI-TFT-LCD-Display-Module-240x320-ILI9340C-PCB-Adapter-SD-Card-/171582325045?hash=item27f31a8135:g:mIsAAOSwg3FUi5mq this thing
[8:43] <Goldschlager> Hypermist: Gotta find an interest and your projects will fall on your lap
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[8:43] <hypermist> Goldschlager, well i have interest in my current project but awaiting parts to arrive
[8:43] <Drzacek> hypermist, great, the same one as mine :) It works, confirmed
[8:43] <hypermist> so im dumbfounded for othersxD
[8:44] <hypermist> i guess i could jack up a homemade doorbell haha
[8:44] <Drzacek> you thought about how you gonna do your controls? reverse-engineer some usb game pad, GPIO?
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[8:46] <hypermist> i've got pcbs for the exact purpose drzac
[8:47] <Drzacek> hypermist, ah, clever
[8:47] <Drzacek> May I ask where did you get them
[8:48] <hypermist> i got the pcb schematic from adafruit osh, but used dirtypcb's to order them
[8:48] <Drzacek> Did own project in eagle or something, then etchted them yourself, or is there some open project?
[8:48] <Drzacek> oh okay
[8:49] <Drzacek> I still can't decide what should I use in mine. I thought about dismantling my cheap usb pad, but I'll probably go with gpio buttons
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[9:47] <hypermist> Drzacek, sorry i didn't respond i was busy (:
[9:47] <hypermist> https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/zVimevnd Drzacek :D
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[9:47] <Drzacek> It's okay hypermist, I'm at work anyway so I'm not here all the time too
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[9:48] <Drzacek> As I thought, only 8 buttons - 4 directional, 4 action?
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[9:49] <Drzacek> I was thinking more like a PSP controlls - 4 directionals, 4 action, start + select + 1x left and 1x right action (+ optional analog, but those are huge)
[9:50] <hypermist> yea 4 direction 4 action :D
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[9:51] <Drzacek> but pigrrrrrrl project is extra small, so you don't have enough place for more :P
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[9:55] <hypermist> i've modified my case Drzacek :D
[9:55] <Drzacek> 3d print?
[9:56] <hypermist> got someone in nl to do it for me :D
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[9:56] <Drzacek> I thought about wood milling (routing?)
[9:57] <hypermist> dont know havent touched any printing aspects on my own yet
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[11:06] <wire11> What would be your recommendations for VNCing into a Pi that's hooked up to a TV?
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[11:07] <wire11> I'd like to be on the same screen that's shown on the TV, it doesn't seem to be doing that at the moment with XVNC
[11:09] <Goldschlager> I can get ya' a link
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[11:11] <Goldschlager> https://www.realvnc.com/products/vnc/raspberrypi/
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[11:12] <Goldschlager> I use it
[11:13] <oq> what, why would they specifically target the pi?
[11:13] <wire11> Thanks Goldschlager
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[11:15] <wire11> The difference between service and virtual mode is quite subtle
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[11:16] <Goldschlager> wire11 if you use Chrome then use vnc viewer, it's a quick way to connect and control
[11:16] <wire11> Did you purchase realVNC Goldschlager?
[11:16] <Goldschlager> no it's free
[11:16] <Goldschlager> sudo vncpasswd -service
[11:17] <Goldschlager> oh
[11:17] <wire11> Well you can get emailed a license that will cover personal use
[11:17] <wire11> which will do me nicely, thanks for the help
[11:17] <Goldschlager> I did it quite a while ago
[11:17] <Goldschlager> so yes, i prolly just had the free one e-mailed
[11:17] <wire11> Goldschlager ▸ https://www.realvnc.com/purchase/activate/
[11:18] <Goldschlager> yeah, it's been a long time :)
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[11:23] <Goldschlager> hmmm, maybe it's not realvnc that i used...
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[11:23] <Goldschlager> TightVNC maybe?
[11:24] <oq> Tightvnc is certainly more free
[11:24] <Goldschlager> :)
[11:24] <Goldschlager> that sounds more like it then
[11:26] <Goldschlager> If I wanted to pay to connect to a computer I'd be running windows
[11:28] <Goldschlager> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/vnc/
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[11:28] <wire11> Just got it working! Had to edit a config file
[11:29] <Goldschlager> for realvnc?
[11:29] <Goldschlager> or tightvnc?
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[11:31] <Lartza> Isn't realvnc paid?
[11:32] <bekks> No.
[11:32] <Lartza> Well they have a paid version it seems and the free is nerfed
[11:33] <Goldschlager> i know i start it with just vncserver and I didn't have to pay for it.
[11:34] <ShorTie> realvnc is free for xp, gotta buy it for any thing >
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[11:36] <Lartza> Now that doesn't seem true
[11:36] <Lartza> I think I have my VNC set-up with tigervnc and I think it's a tightvnc fork
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[11:38] <Goldschlager> do they all start them with vncserver?
[11:38] <ShorTie> i like x11vnc for the pi
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[12:21] <Apicalis> Does anybody know a NAS System that's basically just a USB3.0 <-> Ethernet adapter but shows up in your local network as a accessable file system?
[12:21] <Apicalis> I am using my 2TB external harddrive and dont want to buy an entire Synology System because at some point i might pick up my HDD and visit my friends
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[12:21] <Apicalis> So an internal HDD is out of question
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[12:22] <bekks> Apicalis: Then you need to get a full blown NAS.
[12:23] <bekks> Or some old router with a USB connector, and use that as network device then.
[12:23] <Apicalis> Yeah i got a Fritzbox that's setup to be a NAS but the Speed is lame as .....
[12:24] <Apicalis> Since the processor on the 6490 is not up to the task, even though its a new model
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[12:26] <bekks> Thats what you get when not using a NAS.
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[12:28] <Apicalis> I mean there are USB3.0 <-> Ethernet adapters but i guess you need some software on your computer to access the HDD
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[12:31] <bekks> Apicalis: Yes.
[12:31] <bekks> Apicalis: Thats why you need NAS or a computer.
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[12:32] <Apicalis> dayum
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[12:33] <Apicalis> Well i gues i wont get around installing Linux on my Pine64 instead of android. Then i can use it as the Ethernet host
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[12:35] <bekks> Does the Pine64 has USB3?
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[12:37] <Apicalis> yes
[12:37] <Apicalis> I mean no
[12:37] <Apicalis> Only USB 2.0
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[12:37] <bekks> Then you can use your old fritzbox as well.
[12:37] <Apicalis> But it's still faster than my pi 1 and my router
[12:37] <Apicalis> Nah, it's still faster
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[12:47] <Drzacek> damn Apicalis, I was hoping to utilize my old fritzbox for that, now you're telling me that it is slow? I bet my model is even older :/
[12:48] <Apicalis> I read so on several forums that the CPU is of course designed for networking, VOIP, DECT etc. but not really for NAS hosting with a high speed
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[12:53] <bekks> Thats correct so far.
[12:53] <bekks> Thats why you get a NAS :)
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[13:01] <Drzacek> Apicalis, well, given the cost of a new fritzbox, one would expect something more
[13:02] <Apicalis> Indeed
[13:02] <Apicalis> I was disappointed aswell
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[13:05] <Apicalis> Most people seem to have below 6 mbit datarate
[13:05] <Apicalis> on the fritzbox 6490
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[13:08] <Apicalis> To compare it, i got 20 MB/sec via USB2.0 directly attached to my Computer
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[13:10] <Drzacek> Well, transfering huge files would be pain even with 20mb/s, but is 6mb fast enough for media streaming (videos)?
[13:10] <Huolon> No
[13:10] <Huolon> Unless it’s very low bitrate
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[13:18] <Raspbian> yo guys
[13:22] <yene> YO GUYS
[13:25] <Apicalis> YO YO YO
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[13:28] <ozzzy> I just use the Pi for a gateway into the NAS drives from 'outside'
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[13:29] <ozzzy> wrong chan [sigh]
[13:31] <Drzacek> yo
[13:31] <Drzacek> Huolon, thanks
[13:32] <Huolon> I’m not sure if you mean megabit or megabyte
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[13:33] <Drzacek> Huolon, since apicalis said mbit, I assumed mbit
[13:33] <Huolon> Yeah but he also said MB after
[13:33] <Huolon> But 6mbit is too low
[13:33] <Apicalis> they asid MB/sec on a forum
[13:33] <Apicalis> said
[13:33] <oq> yeah, he says 20 MB/sec and 6mbit and you say 20mb/s and 6mb, wtf
[13:33] <Apicalis> but let me take another look
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[13:35] <Drzacek> oq, since I saw bit, and it is bitrate, not byterate, I say mb. And I do not differentiate between M and m, which supposely means 1000 and 1024, I say what I say
[13:35] <Huolon> this is a bit confusing
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[13:35] <Apicalis> these people on those forums got no idea what they are talking about
[13:35] <Apicalis> I can only link a german forum http://www.heise.de/ct/hotline/Fritzbox-NAS-viel-zu-langsam-2793517.html
[13:36] <Drzacek> When it comes to transfers, it SHOULD be in bits/s (mbits/s etc)
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[13:37] <oq> Drzacek: it does not matter, what matters is reading and writing the proper unit symbols
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[13:37] <oq> so do that
[13:38] <mgottschlag> M and m are 1000 and 0.001 actually... Mi is 1024 :p
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[13:38] <mgottschlag> if you want a cheap NAS with acceptable performance, have a look at the seagate goflex net (12€ here in Germany)
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[13:39] <mgottschlag> (requires some modding though)
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[13:43] <bekks> mgottschlag: Which kind of modding?
[13:45] <mgottschlag> 12V is not connected (one simple wire needs to be soldered), but more importantly, the enclosure needs to be replaced (because it's designed for seagates own external sata drives
[13:45] <mgottschlag> )
[13:45] <mgottschlag> internally, it's a Marvell 2x1.2GHz ARMv5 chip though, the same as in some NAS systems from ~2010
[13:46] <mgottschlag> I think 50MB/s is achievable (not with the default software though, which only uses NTFS)
[13:46] <oq> I tried one of those, https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002LB8XFK/, back in the day, it was awful
[13:47] <bekks> mgottschlag: ah ok.
[13:48] <Huolon> I’d get a RPi if I had a monitor (not TV) with hdmi
[13:48] <Huolon> VGA pleb masterrace
[13:49] <oq> Huolon: active hdmi -> vga adaptors are a thing
[13:49] <Huolon> i looked at those
[13:49] <Huolon> but I should probably get a new monitor anyway
[13:50] <Huolon> It’s a 9 year old 1680x1050 monitor
[13:53] <Drzacek> mine is 1280xsomething, over 12yo. Got hdmi->vga adapter, works nice (don't need hd for console)
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[14:03] <Huolon> I don’t like using it because the screen of my retina macbook is waaay better :P
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[14:09] <Drzacek> "Hey look, I use apple, I am better"
[14:10] <Bilby> oh lawd
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[14:13] <yene> at least my apple tv can loop videos
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[14:17] <Drzacek> Can you connect to non-apple wifi routers/APs?
[14:19] <yene> no, you have to use original hardware, and you can only configure it over the cloud after entering your creditcard
[14:20] <Bilby> what are you talking about?
[14:20] <Drzacek> :D
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[14:33] <Berg> I had a dog name apple I shot and ate it = apple pi
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[14:43] <Drzacek> Berg, thats insane
[14:44] <Berg> dont you like pi?
[14:46] <Drzacek> question unrelated
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[14:46] <Berg> Drzacek: you are insane too
[14:46] <Drzacek> why
[14:47] <bekks> Drzacek: Ignore the troll :)
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[14:47] <Berg> hehehe
[14:47] <Drzacek> I'm not a troll, don't ignore me!
[14:47] <Drzacek> :D
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[14:47] <Berg> there is a difference between a troll and listening to crickets
[14:48] <Berg> nearly 11pm at troll central
[14:48] <Berg> cold winters night
[14:49] <bekks> Berg: *plonk*
[14:49] <Bilby> their silicon brains work better when it's cold out
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[14:49] <Berg> whats *plonk*?
[14:50] <Berg> hay bilby saw another of you relatives this very morn
[14:50] <Berg> sunrise and all is right with the world
[14:50] <Bilby> very nice :)
[14:51] <Berg> its always the way i see them i dont have my camera ill have to glue it to my hand
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[14:51] <Chunkyz> how can I diagnose why my vpn isn't working?
[14:51] <Berg> http://haighschocolates.com.au/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Bilby-for-story1.jpg
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[14:57] <Chunkyz> anyone?
[15:00] <Drzacek> Chunkyz, what VPN do you use?
[15:00] <Chunkyz> the server?
[15:00] <tommy``> https://www.google.it/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjL5r--yafNAhUHOBQKHSP0C7cQFggeMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.element14.com%2Fcommunity%2Fdocs%2FDOC-80946%2Fl%2Fpik3a-the-raspberry-pi-3-ikea-retro-gaming-table&usg=AFQjCNG7hqYOTvHUcLvqoBempIZl9RbFpw&sig2=erqTIMQR8C3YCuI5ZolPWg
[15:00] <tommy``> sorry
[15:01] <tommy``> https://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-80946/l/pik3a-the-raspberry-pi-3-ikea-retro-gaming-table
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[15:02] <Chunkyz> tommy``, please, don't.
[15:02] <Chunkyz> Drzacek, do you mean server?
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[15:02] <tommy``> i just want to show ppl here that pik3a table but i missclicked
[15:02] <tommy``> i don't made on purpose.
[15:05] <Drzacek> Chunkyz, well, yeah. There are many different vpns.
[15:05] <Drzacek> And how did you found out that it doesn't work
[15:05] <Chunkyz> ibvpn
[15:05] <Chunkyz> none work thoughj
[15:06] <Drzacek> tommy``, cute table
[15:06] <tommy``> yeah, i think i'll do a trip to ikea :D
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[15:06] <Drzacek> Chunkyz, so it's some kind of commercial solution. So you register there, pay them, get some access information like login and pass, probably serwer ip/domain?
[15:07] <Drzacek> tommy``, they were 5euro each at some point if I recall
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[15:07] <tommy``> yes Drzacek, correct ;)
[15:08] <Drzacek> yet they were hard enough not to break when I stand on them :D
[15:08] <tommy``> the problem will be found a monitor like that
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[15:08] <tommy``> they are made with cardobard
[15:08] <tommy``> cardboard*
[15:08] <Drzacek> Like that?
[15:09] <Drzacek> looks like a normal monitor to me
[15:09] <tommy``> no no i mean the table is made with cardobard
[15:09] <tommy``> :D
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[15:09] <tommy``> how much for a monitor like that?
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[15:10] <Drzacek> yea yea, what do you mean by a monitor like that? just get cheapest you can get and dismantle it
[15:10] <tommy``> i need a better milling machine for holes
[15:10] <Drzacek> cheap vga monitor + hdmi->vga adapter can be cheaper than used hdmi monitor, but I haven't really looked
[15:11] <Drzacek> tommy``, you can always do most of the work on milling machine, than fine-cut it manually
[15:11] <tommy``> i found a monitor 0,01€ on ebay
[15:12] <Drzacek> with small saw or files
[15:12] <Drzacek> auction?
[15:12] <tommy``> yep
[15:12] <tommy``> buying for smashing :D
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[15:56] <oq> anyone after a pi zero?
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[15:57] <oq> thepihut is going to have some in 4 minutes
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[16:01] <Drzacek> oq, thanks, good to know
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[16:03] <tommy``> 49€ for a pi3 it's normal?
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[16:04] <Drzacek> tommy``, I paid 44 euro
[16:04] <Drzacek> with shipping to germany
[16:04] <tommy``> ah
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[16:04] <tommy``> 44 shipping inclused?
[16:04] <Drzacek> but it depends on GBP-EURO price
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[16:05] <Roonix> Pi 3 is £30 here in uk (£30 = 38 euros currently)
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[16:05] <tommy``> i'm in italy
[16:05] <tommy``> a shop sells them for 49€
[16:07] <oq> tommy``: they're around ~£30/€38 here not including shipping
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[16:07] <tommy``> mmh ok
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[16:08] <Roonix> on rs-online.com in Italy they are currently 33 euros http://it.rs-online.com/web/cp/8968660,8968664/?sra=p&r=t
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[16:08] <oq> Roonix: is that post-tax?
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[16:09] <ozzzy> they're ~$40US with free shipping
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[16:09] <oq> Roonix: Yeah, € 33.10 + € 8.60 VAT
[16:10] <oq> Roonix: and then another 6 euros ontop for shipping
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[16:10] <Roonix> ahh ok and plus shipping
[16:10] <oq> amazon.it has them for 48 euros free shipping
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[16:11] <ascheel> ER_nesto: I'm here.
[16:12] <ER_nesto> Hey again ascheel
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[16:12] <ER_nesto> I guess I can try the other soundcard now current and that are edited?
[16:12] <ER_nesto> Maybe it's just the chinese one being funky
[16:12] <ascheel> Perhaps. Which sound card are you trying to use?
[16:13] <ER_nesto> Some cheap chinese thing
[16:13] <ozzzy> found one for $39US with free shipping
[16:13] <ascheel> ER_nesto: got a link? Buy them from Amazon and look at the reviews and user questions for ones that function with the Pi.
[16:13] <ER_nesto> ascheel: Got it from amazon, but I'm broke right now
[16:14] <ascheel> Throw me a link, please.
[16:14] <Roonix> what type of sound card is it?
[16:14] <oq> those usb ones?
[16:14] <ER_nesto> http://hastebin.com/bapefehuro.vbs
[16:14] <oq> .vbs? really?
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[16:15] <ascheel> oq: The last one was .cpp. ;)
[16:15] <ER_nesto> Yeah, detection algorithms are a little funky
[16:15] <ER_nesto> https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003ZM0XIY
[16:15] <Roonix> I just got a cheap ass usb one for the Pi zero to use with composite video out, works well and it was cheap as hell, like £1 or something
[16:16] <oq> heh, I haven't seen one with buttons before
[16:16] <ER_nesto> And the cable is: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00B5T4A60/
[16:16] <ER_nesto> Roonix: Which, and where?
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[16:17] <Roonix> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121807636825?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[16:17] <oq> ER_nesto: will that cable let you power it through the usb otg port + something else on the usb?
[16:17] <ascheel> ER_nesto: Going to leave you in their capable hands. I need to bail to get real work done
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[16:17] <ER_nesto> oq: What do you mean?
[16:17] <oq> ER_nesto: on the pi zero
[16:18] <ER_nesto> oq: I still don't get ya
[16:18] <oq> oh, lame "Important: OTG & Charging function can't be used at the same time. You can choose only one of the 2 functions when using this cable"
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[16:18] <oq> I was thinking it would be like the chromecast ethernet psu
[16:18] <ER_nesto> I have only one power cable right now, it's hooked up to the female micro usb on that cable, with the male in the pi, and my USB hub in the full size port
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[16:20] <oq> ER_nesto: like this, https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=131379, except with a usb port instead of ethernet
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[16:21] <ER_nesto> oq: Oh, well it does support it actually, just not on android
[16:21] <ER_nesto> It's how I have my internet connected to the zero right now!
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[16:23] <oq> ER_nesto: oh cool, I might get one then
[16:23] <ER_nesto> I want my sodding sound to work!
[16:23] * ER_nesto cries
[16:25] <ER_nesto> Looks like either sound card tries to draw too much current and gets cut off
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[16:32] <ER_nesto> right, I think I've narrowed down the problem
[16:32] <ER_nesto> But I don't know how to fix it
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[16:34] <ER_nesto> My only option seems to be a powered USB hub
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[16:35] <chithead> maybe you can use hdmi audio and a splitter box
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[16:41] <ER_nesto> I have no moneys
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[16:41] <ER_nesto> And I need audio-in
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[16:42] <oq> wait till you have moneys?
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[16:44] <MadMan2021> Greetings
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[16:45] <ER_nesto> That'll be at least two and a half months
[16:47] <Beanzilla> MadMan2021: Greetings and Salutations. Be Well.
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[16:49] <pwillard> Ok that power/ethernet adapter is neat
[16:50] * ER_nesto cries
[16:50] <oq> pwillard: shame it means you can't use anything else usb because it takes up the only otg port
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[16:50] <pwillard> yeah
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[16:52] <ER_nesto> if you're embedding the zero somewhere like a chromecast it's ideal though
[16:52] <pwillard> agreed.
[16:52] <oq> its also pricey
[16:52] <ER_nesto> Very pricey
[16:52] <ER_nesto> More expensive than the alternative
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[16:53] <pwillard> I have a zero embedded here. http://i.imgur.com/MaKx9Uz.jpg
[16:53] <ER_nesto> They really need to recalibrate the pick 'n' place machine
[16:53] <oq> I wonder if you could make a sheevaplug sort product out a pi zero
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[16:53] <ER_nesto> niiice pwillard
[16:54] <ER_nesto> oq: Have you seen the one Xiaomi make? It's smaller than my phone charger
[16:54] <oq> ER_nesto: no?
[16:54] <ER_nesto> oq: I'll have a look
[16:55] <ER_nesto> I can't find it, it was on AE :L
[16:56] <oq> I only see this, http://www.gearbest.com/cables-connectors/pp_168522.html
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[16:58] <ER_nesto> Here ya go: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-XiaoMi-TV-Box-WiFi-Bluetooth-4-0-HDMI-Single-Connection-Android-4-4-Quad-Core/32583263000.html
[16:59] <oq> ah so is that like a chromecast?
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[16:59] <ER_nesto> I guess
[17:04] <ER_nesto> I may have a fix for my issue
[17:04] <ER_nesto> But it's disgustingly hacky
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[17:33] <FluVirus> You guys think a pi would work in small pelican case outside in 90-100 degrees f?
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[17:34] <oq> can you translate that to celcius please?
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[17:34] <oq> this isn't the 1850's, nobody uses fahrenheit anymore
[17:34] <FluVirus> 32.2-37.7c
[17:36] <oq> probably? Wouldn't the pi just throttle itself if it gets too hot?
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[17:37] <FluVirus> I have read they will reboot if they get to hot
[17:38] <GreeningGalaxy> I can confirm >_>
[17:39] <FluVirus> What temp does yours reboot?
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[17:39] <giddles> rpi3 is hot
[17:39] <giddles> here it heats the room ;D
[17:39] <GreeningGalaxy> er, well, my experience is with one that has a frazzled regulator, so it quickly hits 120°C every time I plug it in. :F
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[17:40] <giddles> if it burns you smell it
[17:40] <giddles> :D
[17:40] <giddles> so try
[17:40] <GreeningGalaxy> I have another with a slightly tattered regulator which runs at around 75°C-85°C seemingly without trouble
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[17:40] <giddles> i literally raped my pi's, nearby lightningts on the one outside, one here falled 2 metre from stairs down... they both still work
[17:40] <devslash> i need help. I just the rpi 3 and I cant get the wifi to work from the command line. Running Jessie lite. I added the ssid and psk to /etc/network/interfaces but dhclient never gets an ip address
[17:41] <GreeningGalaxy> but yeah, even without the help my classmates and I have provided in our escapades, the Pi 3 is spitting fireballs compared to the 2
[17:41] <GreeningGalaxy> devslash� save yourself some time, install wicd-curses
[17:41] <GreeningGalaxy> (use connection sharing from a laptop if you don't have wired internet available otherwise)
[17:41] <devslash> i have to remove network manager right ?
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[17:41] <GreeningGalaxy> nah, you can keep it around I think
[17:41] <devslash> thats not possible. i have to get wifi working
[17:41] <curlyears> heigh hough
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[17:42] <GreeningGalaxy> hrm
[17:42] <devslash> i need to install 165MB of packages just to get wifi working ?
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[17:42] <GreeningGalaxy> hah, be glad its just that
[17:42] <GreeningGalaxy> wifi is a nightmare
[17:43] <curlyears> devslash: sounds about right. Those packages support a wide range of hardware choice, which bloats the sixze of the package
[17:43] <devslash> i really dont want extra bloatware
[17:44] <oq> devslash: I have 0 issues with wifi on jessie lite and no extra packages
[17:44] <curlyears> devslash: it's the price you pay for ubiiquity, which is what males free software economically feaible.
[17:44] <devslash> oq how did you do it
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[17:45] <devslash> did you add the ssid to /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[17:45] <oq> the latter
[17:45] <curlyears> think how nightmarish it would be is everyne had to downlad a different package to implement WiFi. Just finding the right package would be a drag, and it's not as likely to be offered freely, ince the potential "market" for it is so limited.
[17:45] <Encrypt> <GreeningGalaxy> wifi is a nightmare // +1
[17:46] <Encrypt> That's why I use ethernet :D
[17:46] <devslash> oq and then what did you do ?
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[17:46] <curlyears> use ethernet whereever possible, yes. It also helps minimize bandwidth comprssion issues
[17:46] <devslash> oq did you add the entry referencing the wpa_supplicant.conf in /etc/network/interfaces or manually start wpa_supplicant
[17:47] <oq> devslash: neither?
[17:47] <devslash> then what did you do
[17:47] <devslash> q
[17:47] <curlyears> \devslash: that's another thing, Wifi opens up whole new vistas of security issues
[17:47] <devslash> not really
[17:47] <devslash> how do you figure that ?
[17:47] <oq> the stock interfaces file should reference wpa_supplicant.conf
[17:47] <curlyears> devslash: how do you figure "not really?"
[17:48] <devslash> if you use WPA2 with a strong password you should be fine
[17:48] <curlyears> by placing a system "on the air" it makes it much more accessible to potential hackers.
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[17:48] <oq> and mac filtering
[17:49] <devslash> mac filtering is lame
[17:49] <oq> wot
[17:49] <oq> it's the best way to make your network secure
[17:49] <devslash> its so easy to spoof a mac address that its not a good security measure
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[17:49] <oq> devslash: and where exactly do they find the mac to spoof?
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[17:50] <curlyears> well, anyone who doesn't considered any networked computer a serius security risk is stupid or ignorant or both. Wirelessly netowkred computers are that much more vulnerable
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[17:51] <curlyears> \oq: have you ever studies te ethernet-tcp/ip packet protocol? MACs are embedded in ethernet packets by definitionm
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[17:52] <curlyears> why else do you think it is necessary to configure the MAC when setting up ethernet networking conenctions?
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[17:53] <yene> guys dont fight, peace among worlds!
[17:53] <MadMan2021> fight
[17:53] <MadMan2021> join #donger and fight
[17:53] <curlyears> \who's fighting?
[17:53] <MadMan2021> best irc game ever
[17:53] <curlyears> there isd a world of differnce between "fighting" and arguing out a diffference of opinions\
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[17:54] <yene> jes it was a joke
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[17:56] <curlyears> a JOKE? ON #raspberrypi!!!????????
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[17:57] <wire11> does vino work on the rpi3
[17:58] <wire11> or am I better off going with tightvnc
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[17:59] <DrunkenDwarf> hi all. reading https://blog.frankzhao.com.au/2014/03/ad-hoc-ethernet-with-raspberry-pi/ trying to get an ad-hoc connection over ethernet to my pis. .. will adding an ip to /boot/cmdline.txt allow all computers connecting via ethernet ssh/vnc into the Pi? Also, will it intefere at all with the wifi connection of wither the pi or connecting computer?
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[18:04] <curlyears> \not sure I undertsnad the second portion of your query, DrunkenDwarf
[18:06] <DrunkenDwarf> curlyears: its my understanding from the page that adding that will alloow a laptop to connect to a pi via ethernet and ssh/vnc over the connection ad-hoc .... would that effect in anyway the existing wifi connection of the pi? for example, would it be trying to secure that ip from the wifi provider?
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[18:12] <devslash> geez
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[18:13] <DrunkenDwarf> reading here: https://pihw.wordpress.com/guides/direct-network-connection/in-a-nut-shell-direct-network-connection/ suggests at the bottom that if you add an ip to the end of /boot/cmdline.txt and do not connect a network cable at boot, itll wait 2 minuted before booting properly. is this right?
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[18:16] <devslash> can anyone help me. i just got my pi and i cannt get an ip address using dhclient. im using the command line
[18:16] <wire11> devslash ▸ has it been connected to a network that has a DHCP server
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[18:17] <devslash> yes of course
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[18:17] <devslash> I'm running Jessie lite. I added the ssid and psk to /etc/network/interfaces but dhclient never gets an ip address
[18:17] <wire11> #sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
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[18:19] <devslash> ok now what
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[18:21] <wire11> devslash ▸ did you get an IP?
[18:21] <devslash> nope
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[18:21] <devslash> i think the wifi adapter is messed up on this PI
[18:21] <wire11> Have you tried to connect to another wifi, like your phone as a hotspot
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[18:22] <devslash> yea
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[18:25] <devslash> any ideas
[18:25] <devslash> otherwise im gonna send this thing back
[18:26] <wire11> #sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[18:26] <wire11> does it get networks?
[18:26] <pcmerc> if it does, it works
[18:26] <devslash> by the way when i do dmesg I noticed these messages that I think are related to wifi: brcmfmac: brcmf_sdio_drivestrengthinit: No SDIO Drive strength init done for chip 43430 rev 1 pmurev 24
[18:26] <devslash> brcmfmac: brcmf_cfg80211_reg_notifier: not a ISO3166 code brcmfmac: brcmf_add_if: ERROR: netdev:wlan0 already exists
[18:26] <devslash>
[18:26] <devslash> i cant connect to any wifi networks
[18:27] <pcmerc> but does it find networks?
[18:27] <devslash> that scan does list wifi networks
[18:28] <devslash> but I cant connect to any of them
[18:28] <wire11> #sudo nano /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[18:28] <devslash> i added an entry in therre
[18:28] <pcmerc> has to be a configuration issue
[18:29] <devslash> does that conf only need a network block?
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[18:30] <devslash> wpa_supplicant.conf
[18:30] <devslash> pcmerc, do those messages from dmesg mean anything
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[18:30] <pcmerc> I'm sure they point to something but I haven't seen those before
[18:30] <pcmerc> I don't use wifi from my pi's usually though
[18:31] <pcmerc> I have setup wifi & an AP using a pi though just for tinkering's sake
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[18:34] * ozzzy bought a Pi 3 just for giggles and poops... can't turn down $39
[18:35] <pcmerc> they are addicting
[18:35] <pcmerc> lol
[18:35] <pcmerc> I pick one up everytime I'm at the store lol
[18:36] <pcmerc> if they just had usb3 & GIG nic it would be slick
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[18:39] <ozzzy> I don't need either
[18:39] <devslash> hey i just made a little progress
[18:39] <devslash> i managed to connect to my cell phone using it s a hotspot
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[18:43] <devslash> i figured out what the problem is
[18:43] <devslash> pcmerc,
[18:43] <pcmerc> what was it?
[18:43] <pcmerc> config issue I'd imagine
[18:44] <devslash> none of the docs explicitly said this but you have to specify the wireless network type using key_mgmt=WPA_PSK
[18:44] <devslash> the official docs dont specify that which is stupid IMO
[18:45] <pcmerc> ya *nix based docs are usually lacking
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[18:47] <pcmerc> example I just finished setting up squid proxy with WCCP tied in with our ASA's. http was fine but https decrypting was a bitch
[18:47] <pcmerc> all the documentation out there was incomplete, all of it
[18:47] <devslash> man what a relief... I started thinking the wifi adapter was borked
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[18:47] <pcmerc> heeh
[18:47] <pcmerc> glad you got it
[18:48] <pcmerc> conquered!
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[18:48] <wire11> devslash ▸ hahaha
[18:48] <wire11> glad it'w working
[18:49] <pcmerc> I find that the painful lessons are better remembered
[18:49] <pcmerc> lol
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[18:52] <devslash> do you guys use redis ?
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[19:06] <zhodge> is there a way to get changes to /etc/resolv.conf to persist through reboot?
[19:07] <wire11> zhodge ▸ set immutable flags?
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[19:07] <wire11> not even root can delete then
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[19:08] <zhodge> okay, is the user that sets the immutable flag the only one that can unset?
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[19:09] <pwillard> if /etc/resolv.conf does not persist... you have a real issue.
[19:09] <zhodge> that was going to be my next question
[19:09] <zhodge> I've got two pi 3's both running raspbian
[19:10] <Raspbian> pinging me again? :P
[19:10] <Chillum> sounds like another program is replacing resolve.conf for you
[19:10] <zhodge> the first I had no problem with editing resolv.conf and the rebooting
[19:10] <pksato> zhodge: need to set on networkm manager in use.
[19:10] <pwillard> there is a known thing where resolv.conf clears when changing networks
[19:10] <Chillum> or if you want to go manual then don't use a manager
[19:11] <pksato> some can set dns on /etc/network/interfaces
[19:11] <pwillard> are you changing networks?
[19:11] * BurtyB would guess at dhcpcd5 being the primary cause
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[19:11] <pwillard> and yeah, I avoid manager... you lose control
[19:12] <zhodge> pksato: I did try editing /etc/network/interfaces but I'm not sure if I was using the correct parameters
[19:12] <zhodge> pwillard: I'm hard wired to ethernet and I haven't selected a wireless network so my guess is no?
[19:12] <BurtyB> zhodge, to use /etc/network/interfaces you'd need to uninstall dhcpcd5
[19:12] <pksato> zhodge: have resolvconf tool installed?
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[19:13] <ER_nesto> ascheel + oq: I've made a USB hub
[19:13] <ER_nesto> I'll test it now
[19:13] <zhodge> BurtyB: ahh I did not know this
[19:13] <pksato> on interfaces dns-nameservers list space separeted
[19:14] <zhodge> pksato: which resolvconf points to /sbin/resolvconf so yes
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[19:15] <pksato> and, dhcp client overwrite resolv.conf
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[19:17] <pksato> That is a mess...
[19:18] <zhodge> okay so is it recommended to uninstall dhcpcd5 then so I can adjust /etc/network/interfaces?
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[19:19] <pksato> dns send by dhcpd is not usable?
[19:20] <zhodge> hm I haven't tried
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[19:20] <zhodge> for that I should be editing /etc/dhcpd.conf?
[19:22] <pksato> https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Defining_the_.28DNS.29_Nameservers
[19:22] <zhodge> *dhcpcd.conf
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[19:28] <zhodge> the link is instructing to edit /etc/network/interfaces
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[19:28] <zhodge> is it absolutely necessary to uninstall dhcpcd5 first?
[19:28] <zhodge> the reference makes no mention of it
[19:29] <pcmerc> I don't believe so
[19:29] <pcmerc> what is the problem?
[19:29] <pcmerc> you trying to set the DNS nameservers?>
[19:29] <zhodge> yes
[19:29] <zhodge> and it doesn't seem like I should be editing /etc/resolv.conf directly
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[19:29] <zhodge> since it's written to by higher level tools
[19:29] <pcmerc> you need to add it to the interfaces conf
[19:30] <zhodge> although what's most confusing to me about that is that process worked fine on another pi
[19:30] <zhodge> and I didn't set it immutable or anything
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[19:30] <pcmerc> example
[19:30] <pcmerc> dns-nameservers 127.0.0.1
[19:30] <pcmerc> dns-search home.local
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[19:31] <pcmerc> also
[19:31] <pcmerc> ~/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[19:32] <pcmerc> I think I had to tweak that a bit also
[19:32] <pcmerc> I run bind locally
[19:33] <zhodge> the location of those config lines isn't important I take it?
[19:33] <pcmerc> for which?
[19:33] <zhodge> within the interfaces file I mean
[19:34] <pcmerc> needs to be appended to your interface
[19:34] <bekks> zhodge: The order of lines is important.
[19:34] <pcmerc> so eth0 or whatever
[19:34] <pcmerc> in the dhclient.conf
[19:34] <zhodge> :0
[19:34] <pcmerc> I believe I tweaked this also
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[19:34] <pcmerc> request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
[19:34] <pcmerc> netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope, interface-mtu,
[19:34] <pcmerc> rfc3442-classless-static-routes;
[19:35] <pcmerc> try the interfaces change 1st
[19:35] <pcmerc> see if that resolves the problem for ya
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[19:35] <zhodge> alright, and if the order is important do I just need to add the dns-nameservers after iface eth0?
[19:36] <pcmerc> example
[19:36] <pcmerc> iface eth0 inet static
[19:36] <pcmerc> address 192.168.1.1
[19:36] <pcmerc> netmask 255.255.255.0
[19:36] <pcmerc> gateway 192.168.1.1
[19:36] <pcmerc> dns-nameservers 127.0.0.1
[19:36] <pcmerc> dns-search home.local
[19:37] <pcmerc> it would be under the interface
[19:37] <zhodge> okay, sweet
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[19:38] <zhodge> do I need to use ifconfig to apply these changes?
[19:39] <pcmerc> in what sense?
[19:39] <pcmerc> just edit the /etc/network/interfaces
[19:39] <pcmerc> then service restart networking maybe
[19:39] <kromag> ipconfig on Pi?
[19:39] <pcmerc> or reboot & see if it's correct on boot
[19:39] <pcmerc> ifconfig perhaps
[19:39] <pcmerc> lol
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[19:40] <zhodge> heh I didn't say ipconfig
[19:40] <kromag> [13:38:43] <zhodge> do I need to use ifconfig to apply these changes?
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[19:40] <kromag> ;/
[19:41] <wire11> Interface
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[19:41] <zhodge> kromag: I said ifconfig
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[19:43] <H4ndy> go my WD PiDrive, it's pretty neat
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[20:05] <zhodge> pcmerc: so I edited interfaces but no dice
[20:05] <zhodge> http://pastebin.com/raw/kT4ZKU2N
[20:05] <pcmerc> still gets it from dhcp?
[20:05] <zhodge> well that's what I'm trying to do
[20:05] <pcmerc> put a tab in front of that dns line
[20:05] <zhodge> trying to pull from a local dns server
[20:06] <pcmerc> ok
[20:06] <pcmerc> but its getting your DHCP dns right?
[20:06] <pcmerc> you need to edit the dhclient.conf
[20:06] <pcmerc> I think I had the same issue at one point & thats why I tweaked that file
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[20:07] <zhodge> ah I see you added the tabs in your example
[20:07] <pcmerc> ya 2 of them were cut off though it seems
[20:07] <zhodge> I'm not sure if it's getting the DHCP dns
[20:07] <pcmerc> what shows up in /etc/resolv.conf?
[20:08] <pcmerc> if your using DHCP
[20:08] <pcmerc> you need to tweak /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
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[20:09] <zhodge> /etc/resolv.conf is showing the usual
[20:09] <zhodge> # Generated by resolvconf
[20:09] <zhodge> domain interal.com
[20:09] <zhodge> nameserver 127.0.0.1
[20:10] <zhodge> let me check out dhclient.conf
[20:10] <pksato> zhodge: need to be radical. edit one of files on /etc/resolvconf/
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[20:11] <pksato> I think. is head_some_else.conf
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[20:11] <kromag> H4ndy, I received my PiDrive 2 weeks ago.
[20:11] <kromag> It's okay
[20:12] <kromag> I have it all setup on my Pi3
[20:12] <H4ndy> It removes a lot of cable clutter of my old external drive setup
[20:12] <pksato> or tail-some
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[20:12] <kromag> I didn't get the Enclosure tho
[20:12] <kromag> I built one
[20:12] <kromag> My friend has a 3d printer
[20:12] <H4ndy> the printer at work died :(
[20:12] <kromag> he's never even used it before
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[20:12] <H4ndy> can I borrow your friend?
[20:13] <kromag> he baught it for the kids which all are under 8 years old he said
[20:13] <kromag> not one had a clue how to use it
[20:13] <H4ndy> lol
[20:13] <kromag> neither did I
[20:13] <H4ndy> can I borrow his bank account?
[20:13] <kromag> i had to look it all up
[20:13] <zhodge> pksato: the only entry in /etc/resolvconf/ for me is update-libc.d/
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[20:13] <kromag> H4ndy, eh
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[20:13] <kromag> he use to be a coke dealer now he works for waste management making like 30 an hour
[20:13] <kromag> lol
[20:13] <zhodge> so I'd need to create those config files but I'm going to try editing dhclient.conf first
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[20:15] <H4ndy> kromag: i got the 1tb version with enclosure, it's OK but practical
[20:16] <H4ndy> my old setup was a china sata-usb enclosure connected to a powered USB hub connected to the pi and everything cobbled together with a rubber band
[20:16] <kromag> I got the 314 version
[20:16] <kromag> ouch
[20:17] <kromag> H4ndy how does that drive fair... does it have heating issues at all?
[20:17] <kromag> Mine don't
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[20:18] <H4ndy> kromag: it was quite hot when I mirrored the old drive on it (took 3 hours), but running in the pi it's warm but not hot
[20:19] <kromag> I just host my little website off it
[20:19] <kromag> where I test stuff on
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[20:26] <zhodge> pcmerc: what exactly should I be changing in dhclient.conf ?
[20:27] <zhodge> swap the request line for the one you posted?
[20:27] <H4ndy> kromag: I would probably use a old SSD for stuff like that
[20:28] <pcmerc> http://pastebin.com/m8rB4EE1
[20:28] <pcmerc> is a snippet from mine
[20:28] <pcmerc> you need to change the request
[20:28] <pcmerc> & supersede's
[20:29] <pcmerc> set to what you want it set to
[20:29] <pcmerc> etc
[20:29] <pcmerc> need to step out bbl
[20:29] <zhodge> thanks a lot!
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[21:01] <ER_nesto> How do I audio?
[21:01] <ER_nesto> I got the soundcard detected, but I'm stuck there
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[21:20] <zhodge> pcmerc: dhclient.conf was a no go
[21:20] <zhodge> set immutable flag on resolv.conf and that did it :/
[21:21] <zhodge> but that doesn't seem the way to go
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[21:25] <up2late> how do u get back to the command line when in startx
[21:25] <up2late> i forget the command
[21:26] <up2late> lightdm stop?
[21:26] <up2late> gives me an error
[21:27] <oq> up2late: ctrl alt f1, f2, f3, etc
[21:28] <up2late> ty
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[21:29] <up2late> doesnt that just open a new tty?
[21:29] <up2late> i want to shut down startx completly
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[21:31] <up2late> i seem to remember sudo lightdm stop working
[21:31] <up2late> but im getting an error
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[21:32] <JakeSays> hey i need some bash fu here - i need to rename all foo_* to bar_* in a tree. any suggestions?
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[21:34] <JakeSays> ah.
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[21:36] <kablaaam> so I just managed to snag a pi zero but I’m having trouble finding information about what display screen would go well with it. Is it true that the resistive 2.4 and 2.8 pitft screens would work just fine?
[21:36] <kablaaam> according to here: https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-pitft-28-inch-resistive-touchscreen-display-raspberry-pi/easy-install
[21:37] <JakeSays> kablaaam: i've had good luck with the 2.8, but never tried on a p0, but it should work
[21:38] <kablaaam> ok, now to go find a used one :)
[21:38] <kablaaam> thanks
[21:38] <JakeSays> used?
[21:38] <JakeSays> where would you find a used one?
[21:38] <kablaaam> strange that the 2.4” are 70 euros on amazon and the 2.8 are 40 euros
[21:38] <kromag> ebay
[21:38] <kromag> amazon too
[21:38] <kablaaam> amazon sometimes lists them used
[21:38] <kromag> I see a bunch on amazon recently
[21:39] <JakeSays> huh.
[21:39] <JakeSays> are they much cheaper?
[21:39] <kromag> not really
[21:39] <kromag> I wold buy new
[21:40] <oq> wont a pitft be a bit oversized for a 0?
[21:40] <kablaaam> I wonder if non-touch screens would work
[21:40] <kablaaam> https://thepihut.com/collections/raspberry-pi-screens/products/adafruit-pitft-2-2-hat-mini-kit-320x240-2-2-tft-no-touch this one looks affordable
[21:40] <kablaaam> but might be way too tiny
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[21:42] <oq> I want to get something like this for mine, http://www.sainsmart.com/sainsmart-1-8-spi-lcd-module-with-microsd-led-backlight-for-arduino-mega-atmel-atmega.html
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[21:45] <JakeSays> kablaaam: but no touch
[21:45] <kablaaam> JakeSays I feel like I don’t really need that
[21:45] <JakeSays> why do i get a bad substitution error with this? find . -type f -name 'headless_*' -exec sh -c 'x="{}"; mv "$x" "${x/headless_/orbiton_}"' \;
[21:45] <kablaaam> I just want to display the command line without having to use a regular monitor
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[21:46] <JakeSays> lol i do that with my 2.8's - hope you have good eyes
[21:47] <kablaaam> nope, I still need to buy glasses
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[21:49] <pksato> kablaaam: use a printer. :)
[21:50] <pksato> old Dot matrix printer.
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[21:55] <niston> a 40x2 LCD might work
[21:56] <niston> no typing long commands or using long paths though
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[21:58] <pksato> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip-disc_display
[21:59] <bpye> Has anyone managed to get the SD interface on the GPIO to mount an SD card?
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[22:01] <pksato> big flip-disc display https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJU2-1X8kHQ
[22:03] <JakeSays> bah a video
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[22:07] <GreeningGalaxy> bpye� I've heard you can write to SD cards through SPI, actually. my prof says that's a thing with the SD standard.
[22:07] <bpye> Yeah, though the rpi should have an SDIO interface on 22-27
[22:07] <bpye> Would like to use it as I'm designing around the compute module, but want user switchable storage
[22:09] <GreeningGalaxy> er, 23, 24, and 26 are part of SPI (as are 19 and 21), 25 is ground, and 27 is one of the two EEPROM pins along with 28
[22:09] <GreeningGalaxy> assuming you mean the board numbering scheme
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[22:13] <GreeningGalaxy> honestly though USB is probably the best way to go for SD card access on a pi
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[22:13] <GreeningGalaxy> how to program SPI access into proper filesystem access in Linux is well beyond my expertise
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[23:05] <devslash> I am having an issue connecting to my works wireless network which uses wpa2. I added to /etc/networks/interfaces iface wlan0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid MYSSID wpa-psk MYPASSWORD wpa-key-mgmt WPA_PSK. I know that the password is correct because I just connected to it on my phone. If I create a wireless hotspot on my phone I can connect to it from my PI
[23:05] <devslash> :q
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[23:16] <bpye> I've enabled sdio with dtparam=sdio=on but I don't seem to get any mmc1 device :(
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[23:36] <streulma> I got Wine running on the Raspberry Pi !!!
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[23:37] <Roonix> is it easy or hard to do?
[23:38] <Roonix> does wine allow any exe to run or is it just certain ones?
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[23:39] <oq> streulma: wont that cause a short circuit?
[23:39] <streulma> it allows all !
[23:39] <streulma> Roonix very easy :-)
[23:40] <faugusztin> and it takes one week to start notepad
[23:40] <streulma> faugusztin no
[23:40] <faugusztin> sure, emulating x86 on arm is not slow at all
[23:40] <streulma> 10 sec to start notepad
[23:41] <lopta> Hands up if you remember the Acorn RiscPC!
[23:42] <streulma> it's amazing I find :-)
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[23:43] <Roonix> We had them at school
[23:43] <faugusztin> lopta: sorry, i jumped from a zx spectrum clone right to a 286
[23:43] <streulma> Roonix, you want more info? see PM
[23:45] <lopta> faugusztin: Intercompex Hobbit?
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[23:45] <lopta> I did quite a bit of work on 088,086 and 186 machines.
[23:45] <lopta> ...mostly multi-user CP/M-86 machines built around the 80186
[23:46] <lopta> Great British computers.
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[23:47] <lopta> hello ali1234
[23:47] <ali1234> hi
[23:47] <ali1234> is there a raspbian sid?
[23:48] <faugusztin> lopta: the spectrum clone ? no, it was a local one. Didaktik Gama
[23:48] <lopta> I've seen pictures of those!
[23:48] <lopta> Nice keyboard from the looks of it.
[23:48] <shauno> ali1234: not that I've seen. just oldstable/stable/testing
[23:48] <Roonix> I was too young back then to know much about PCs sadly :( I had an amiga at the time, but only played games on it, I had no real idea about programming sadly
[23:49] <ali1234> shauno: i see, thanks
[23:49] <lopta> I'd love a Didaktik M.
[23:49] <lopta> The Gamma looks quite a bit like the Spectrum 48k+
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[23:51] <lopta> faugusztin: Did your Gamma have a floppy port?
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[23:51] <faugusztin> lopta: no idea, PCB was like http://www.wikiwand.com/cs/Didaktik_Gama
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[23:53] <faugusztin> lopta: btw later there was http://k1.spdns.de/Vintage/Sinclair/82/Clones/Slovakia/Didaktik%20Kompakt/Didaktik%20Kompakt,%20white%20XL.jpg :)
[23:53] * lopta nods
[23:53] <lopta> That reminds me of the Sam Coupe
[23:53] <lopta> Oh! I have to go.
[23:54] <lopta> faugusztin: Lovely chatting with you!
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[23:54] <BurtyB> bpye, I have a hat with an SD interface on it which shows up as mmc1 and mounts OK
[23:54] <bpye> BurtyB: Hm strange, what do you have in your config.txt to get that working?
[23:54] <bpye> I have dtoverlay=sdio but it isnt doing anything, that just hangs my boot :(
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[23:58] <BurtyB> bpye, you probably want "dtoverlay=sdio,poll_once=no" if that's in the correct format these days?

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