#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2016-06-16

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[0:02] <abnormal> lol
[0:02] <abnormal> I think he "oops"
[0:02] <Berg> burn the witch
[0:03] <abnormal> why?
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[0:05] <Berg> why not mob chaos is always fun
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[0:12] <GreeningGalaxy> yayy, my pi zero's new GPIO pins work
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[0:12] <ckeltz> new gpio pins? What happened to the old ones?
[0:12] <GreeningGalaxy> actually, what that really means is "yay, my pi zero still works after I poked it 40 times with a hot soldering iron"
[0:13] <ckeltz> lol, that's reasonable
[0:13] <GreeningGalaxy> I'm not really new to soldering as such, I just last did it when I was like 11 years old
[0:14] <GreeningGalaxy> the only circuit boards I ever tried to put together were failures because I tried to do them with silver solder, a great big soldering gun, and an utterly garbage old tip, lol
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[0:14] <ozzzy> that'll do it
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[0:15] <GreeningGalaxy> so my pi zero's GPIO pins are effectively my first 40 board-mount joints using the actual proper tools. I'm happy that they work.
[0:16] <oq> I have yet to solder any gpio pins on my zero
[0:16] <Berg> zero dont have pins it has holes
[0:16] <Berg> so new pins is correct
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[0:17] <GreeningGalaxy> Berg� well, mine now has pins in its holes
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[0:17] <Berg> new pins?
[0:17] <Berg> wow nice
[0:17] <GreeningGalaxy> I guess it depends on what you want to use it for. if you want to take advantage of the super slim form factor, it could make sense to dispense with big tall pins and solder jumpers straight to it
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[0:18] <GreeningGalaxy> at the moment I'm just using mine for mucking around with C++ and stepper motors, so it makes sense to have pins on it.
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[0:19] <oq> GreeningGalaxy: you get one of those hats?
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[0:19] <oq> https://thepihut.com/collections/raspberry-pi-zero/products/motozero
[0:20] <GreeningGalaxy> nah, I just have a wad of L293NEs and some perf board, when I get around to it.
[0:20] <GreeningGalaxy> I fancy I can do better than $10 for the ability to control 2 steppers.
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[0:21] <GreeningGalaxy> there are enough pins on the thing to manage seven
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[0:22] <oq> GreeningGalaxy: were you the guy with the paper case?
[0:22] <GreeningGalaxy> I'm a girl and no, most of my cases are Pibows
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[0:23] <oq> GreeningGalaxy: pibow for the zero?
[0:23] <oq> I have that pimoroni zero case but I find it a tad bulky and the inability to access the sd card is really annoying
[0:23] <GreeningGalaxy> actually, my zero is running nude at the moment. all the good cases cost more than it does, lol
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[0:24] <GreeningGalaxy> I figure the board is small enough that for my purposes it's tough enough to go without a case
[0:25] <oq> I have one of the 2 piece clear acrylic ones which works really well
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[0:25] <GreeningGalaxy> yeah those are nice
[0:25] <GreeningGalaxy> I've been considering working on a 3D-printed one since I have free access to a makerbot 2
[0:26] <oq> arent the materials still quite expensive though?
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[0:26] <Hitechcg> GreeningGalaxy: https://i.imgur.com/d5dmNXJ.jpg
[0:27] <GreeningGalaxy> not bad
[0:27] <Hitechcg> CoJaBo's case
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[0:27] <CoJaBo> ?
[0:28] <oq> so gross
[0:28] <Hitechcg> CoJaBo: the pic I just posted
[0:28] <Hitechcg> you originally posted it
[0:29] <CoJaBo> huh.
[0:29] <CoJaBo> I don't remember posting i lol
[0:29] <CoJaBo> I should post a pic of my pi case tho
[0:29] <CoJaBo> cases, actually, I have several of them now
[0:30] <Hitechcg> 2016-05-15.log:[20:27:12] <CoJaBo> heh, I need to take a pic of mine; it's even more lol than this http://i.imgur.com/d5dmNXJ.jpg
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[0:31] <oq> you saved a link from a month ago?
[0:31] <Hitechcg> maybe
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[0:31] <Hitechcg> Well I saved the pic
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[0:31] <Hitechcg> And I knew it was from imgur
[0:32] <oq> I forbid you from saving any of my pics
[0:33] <GreeningGalaxy> then use DRM or something
[0:33] <oq> I'd rather just forbid
[0:33] <Hitechcg> $ rgrep '<oq>' | grep imgur
[0:34] <GreeningGalaxy> watermark them all with "if this picture was not posted by oq, the person who posted it is a rat's arse"
[0:35] <Hitechcg> ok nothing worth saving, you're good
[0:36] <GreeningGalaxy> wait, was there a bot involved with that
[0:36] <abnormal> oq: once posted, it's public domain...
[0:36] <GreeningGalaxy> $ regrep '<oq>' | grep imgur
[0:36] <Hitechcg> no
[0:36] <GreeningGalaxy> ok nevermind lol
[0:36] <Hitechcg> bouncer logs
[0:36] <GreeningGalaxy> abnormal: that's not strictly true, is it?
[0:37] <GreeningGalaxy> unless it's in the channel rules somewhere or something
[0:37] <GreeningGalaxy> and even then I think that's dubious
[0:37] <oq> even if post it on the internet I still retain copyright on anything I create
[0:37] <abnormal> it is, unless oq deletes it within a few min after sharing it... otherwise it stays forever online
[0:38] <Hitechcg> but what about imgur's license?
[0:38] <abnormal> dunno, you'd have to read the fine print...
[0:38] <Hitechcg> idk about that though but there probably is something about that
[0:39] <Hitechcg> nobody actually checks that
[0:39] <oq> imgur probably include a right to redistribute but it doesn't override my copyright
[0:39] <abnormal> no, true
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[0:47] <GreeningGalaxy> Doesn't imgur have one of those EULA things like instagram that says they can make money off your pictures and you can't tell them not to?
[0:48] <oq> GreeningGalaxy: ads wouldn't work othrrwise
[0:48] <GreeningGalaxy> right
[0:49] <GreeningGalaxy> hmm. anyone know if there's a way to make a GPIO pin go high the instant a pi gets power and starts booting, then go low after it finishes shutting down?
[0:50] <GreeningGalaxy> For robotics purposes it would be cool to have a latching relay for power so bootup and shutdown can be a one-button thing
[0:50] <ShorTie> instant = !posible
[0:51] <GreeningGalaxy> alright, I suppose the first one makes sense. what about the second part of that, having a pin go low after it finishes shutting down?
[0:51] <CoJaBo> Hitechcg: lol
[0:52] <CoJaBo> and I never did take that pic as proised >_>
[0:52] <CoJaBo> promised
[0:52] <Hitechcg> this is the internet
[0:52] <ShorTie> i'd say that already happens
[0:52] <GreeningGalaxy> ...maybe I can just monitor the ACT light withs ome passive cap circuit and make it cut power if it stays off for more than five seconds
[0:52] <GreeningGalaxy> it does? I thought GPIOs stayed in their last state at shutdown
[0:53] <GreeningGalaxy> to the testing! in 25 minutes when my updates finish downloading. :<
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[0:53] <Hitechcg> Pretty sure I've heard this question before
[0:53] <Hitechcg> Just don't cut power while it's still on
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[0:56] <GreeningGalaxy> well obviously. the point of this exercise is to build a machine that can tell when the pi has finished shutting down and turn off its power.
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[1:01] <GreeningGalaxy> my friends are all arduino people so it will probably help the integrity of all our SD cards if I can design an easy way to turn on and off our systems
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