#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2016-07-30

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[0:06] <grandpa> i love me some sftp
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[0:07] <grandpa> makes things so much easier
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[0:07] <deadhound> Does nginx have to have settings changed to run php?
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[0:08] <deadhound> I have php5 installed and nginx, but when visiting the url for a .php file browser downloads the file instead of displays
[0:08] <grandpa> idk..im using apache2
[0:08] <grandpa> :<
[0:09] <deadhound> let me reboot nginx first actually
[0:09] <deadhound> reboot / restart nginx
[0:09] <grandpa> :3
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[0:15] <Reedy> for nginx php
[0:15] <Reedy> location ~ \.php$ {
[0:15] <Reedy> fastcgi_split_path_info ^(.+\.php)(/.+)$;
[0:15] <Reedy> fastcgi_pass unix:/var/run/php/php7.0-fpm.sock;
[0:15] <Reedy> fastcgi_index index.php;
[0:15] <Reedy> include fastcgi.conf;
[0:15] <Reedy> }
[0:15] <grandpa> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbgiFpDUVA_MUNWcTh1THBRQjg/view?usp=sharing
[0:15] <Reedy> That's php obvs, but replace with php5-fpm IIRC
[0:15] <grandpa> check out muh eye
[0:15] <grandpa> o=
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[0:18] <newbism> Hi. I'm trying to build a universal IR remote I feel like I've done everything in http://alexba.in/blog/2013/01/06/setting-up-lirc-on-the-raspberrypi/ but when I try to mode2 -d /dev/lirc0 I get nothing . I'm using VS1838B IR sensor with the latest rapsbian from NOOBS Linux raspberrypi 4.4.11+ #888 http://ctrlv.in/813268
[0:18] <grandpa> Linux raspberrypi 4.4.13-v7+ #894 SMP Mon Jun 13 13:13:27 BST 2016 armv7l GNU/Linux
[0:18] <deadhound> i'm looking at that askubuntu right now why is all that necessary Reedy ?
[0:19] <Reedy> Why's it matter? :
[0:19] <Reedy> :)
[0:19] <deadhound> seems really complicated for something so simple haha
[0:19] <deadhound> cos now i'm wondering if i should just switch to lamp
[0:20] <Reedy> lol
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[0:20] <grandpa> apache2 is running fine on my pi2 afaik
[0:20] <grandpa> with php5, mysql
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[0:21] <grandpa> www.brandonginn.net/blog/
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[0:22] <Reedy> You can have similar configs on apache, but IIRC the default config is to just enable php everywhere
[0:24] <newbism> lirc_rpi: auto-detected active high receiver on GPIO pin 23 in dmesg but when I check cat /sys/kernel/debug/gpio the IO pin is not shown?
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[0:31] <newbism> sigh
[0:31] <newbism> of course
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[0:31] <deadhound> OK finally got PHP running after installing sudo apt-get install php5-common php5-cli php5-fpm but now i'm running apache haha
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[0:32] <deadhound> sudo service nginx start
[0:32] <deadhound> Job for nginx.service failed. See 'systemctl status nginx.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details.
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[0:36] <newbism> just tried another gpio pin
[0:36] <newbism> no joy
[0:36] <newbism> mode2 -d /dev/lirc0
[0:36] <newbism> just a cursor
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[1:13] <philuk2000> Hi everyone. I have a Sense HAT and cant get the LED colours to light (using python) when the R, G or B levels are set below 50. Is this normal? from 50 to 255 the colour gets brighter as expected
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[1:16] <grandpa> hi
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[1:18] <philuk2000> Kind of quiet. I mean, what else would anyone be doing on a Saturday?
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[1:20] <binaryhermit> it's friday :P
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[1:21] * grandpa np; rebecca black - friday
[1:22] * grandpa headbangs
[1:22] <Berg> its saturday
[1:22] <grandpa> friday EST
[1:22] <grandpa> :P
[1:22] <oq> saturday bst
[1:22] <Berg> im looking at a battery i made it has sediment in the bottom of the cell shorting the plates out
[1:23] <IT_Sean> why are you making your own battery?
[1:23] <grandpa> why arent you making your own battery
[1:23] <Berg> its saturday where it matter ... my house
[1:23] <grandpa> is a better question
[1:23] <grandpa> :)
[1:24] <IT_Sean> they have these places called 'stores' where you can exchange money for goods, such as batteries.
[1:24] <Berg> well to be honest i have been testing (researching) metals for anodes
[1:24] <philuk2000> nice!
[1:24] <grandpa> those storess require 'money'
[1:24] <grandpa> :P
[1:25] <Berg> point is the world is full of very costly batteries that have waste products that are toxic
[1:25] <philuk2000> Try some pennies + paper + vinegar - hey presto!
[1:25] <oq> IT_Sean: how do you expect to learn about a thing without doing a thing
[1:25] <Berg> i want to store kw's
[1:25] <grandpa> put a dynamo on an exercise bike
[1:26] <philuk2000> you can use potato's lemons too :D
[1:26] <Berg> sure
[1:26] <Berg> :)
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[1:27] <philuk2000> All that untapped energy in the atmosphere and around us - amazing nobody has found a way yet
[1:27] <Berg> anyway its still saturday
[1:27] <oq> still?
[1:27] <Berg> yep
[1:27] <oq> it's only been saturday for 27 minutes
[1:28] <Berg> hehehe
[1:28] <philuk2000> It's only 27 minutes into it! Damn, work on Monday
[1:28] <Berg> more turmoil over the correct time its 9.28am
[1:28] <Berg> where its matters
[1:28] <grandpa> 7:28 est
[1:28] <Berg> hehehe
[1:29] <philuk2000> only on this planet!
[1:29] <oq> grandpa: not 19:28?
[1:29] <grandpa> nuua
[1:29] <grandpa> -a
[1:29] <grandpa> i always change my clock back to 12hr
[1:29] <IT_Sean> Saturday?! I'm still stuck at work for another hour and a half!
[1:29] <Berg> he's in yesterday oq
[1:29] <grandpa> so yesterday
[1:29] <grandpa> such is life
[1:30] <IT_Sean> I don't get off work 'till 21:00
[1:30] <mfa298> work in real time (UTC / Zulu) and it's not saturday yet :)
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[1:30] <oq> est is 18:30 anyway, you mean EDT
[1:30] <philuk2000> Actually, he's travelled into ht future with us now!!
[1:30] <grandpa> yes
[1:30] <Berg> well in case you wona know saTURDAY IS A NICE SUNNY DAY
[1:30] <grandpa> i bet its a scortcher tho
[1:31] <grandpa> around here
[1:31] <Berg> not realy its winter
[1:31] <grandpa> lol
[1:31] <grandpa> :<
[1:31] * Berg snickers
[1:31] <oq> Berg: you lie, saturday is cloudy
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[1:31] <grandpa> personally i prefer winter
[1:31] <philuk2000> yep, surely aint sunny where I am!!
[1:32] <Berg> so what did we learn from this chat?
[1:32] <oq> that berg is a liar
[1:32] <Berg> hjahahah
[1:33] <Berg> no we learn i live where it matters
[1:33] <Berg> oq i nearly fell of me chaior laughing
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[1:34] <philuk2000> I lean't that I can socialise her instead of having fun at the pub I was invited to, to watch a Guns n Roses tribute band!!!
[1:34] <philuk2000> i never learn't to type though!
[1:35] <grandpa> HEHEHE
[1:35] <Berg> ok i neede a 4 page essay on guns n roses
[1:36] <grandpa> i cant remove this caps lock :(
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[1:36] <grandpa> i can on my other keyboards though
[1:36] <IT_Sean> No need to yell, grandpa
[1:37] * grandpa yells at clouds
[1:37] <Berg> how many keyboards you have?
[1:37] <grandpa> 3
[1:37] <Berg> remedy for stuttering?
[1:37] <grandpa> nu
[1:37] <philuk2000> My sense hat is playing up (i think)
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[1:38] <grandpa> get it playing conway's game of life
[1:38] <philuk2000> I need it to light up!!
[1:38] <grandpa> oh
[1:39] <grandpa> i also have 2 mice and a trackball
[1:39] <grandpa> and a touchpad on this keyboard here
[1:39] <philuk2000> it lies too!! I shove it some input and says "No"
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[1:40] <grandpa> 4 monitors, 3 towers, 3 pis (123),
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[1:41] <grandpa> cisco 1800 router, dd-wrt wifi router
[1:41] <philuk2000> Some Pi's and a tin of Mackerel
[1:41] <grandpa> gigabit switch
[1:41] <grandpa> :))))
[1:41] <Berg> i have packet of timtams
[1:42] <grandpa> trade ya
[1:42] <chris_99> Hey, has anyone tried one of these cheapo camera lenses - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180-Clip-On-Fish-Eye-Lens-Wide-Angle-Macro-Camera-Lens-Kit-For-Phone-Tablets-UK-/252028931081 with the Pi camera, i stupidly decided to try to unscrew the lens, on one of my pi cameras, which ended badly, so am looking for an alternative for macro stuff
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[1:42] <philuk2000> grandpa: has too much time on his hand
[1:42] <grandpa> yea
[1:42] <Berg> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Tam
[1:42] <Berg> have some
[1:43] <SpeedEvil> chris_99: they can work OK
[1:43] <philuk2000> Berg: ahh, that suck, i'm gluten free man! You can't go around teasing me with that!
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[1:43] <SpeedEvil> I was pondering http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3D-Photograph-Stereoscopic-Camera-Lens-w-Clip-For-iPhone-Smart-Phone-Tablet-/302001136556?
[1:43] <Berg> sorry my bad
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[1:44] * Berg sits in the naughty corner
[1:44] <philuk2000> now I need chocolate, I can have chocolate :D
[1:44] <grandpa> i wanna do a tim tam slam
[1:44] <chris_99> heh interesting SpeedEvil
[1:44] <chris_99> i'm trying to make a crappy spectrometer, so need to position the lens a lot closer to the grating
[1:45] <SpeedEvil> you can't quite do the same thing with a couple of cameras due to shutter
[1:45] <philuk2000> SpeedEvil: Cool!
[1:45] <SpeedEvil> But it would make 3d easy
[1:45] <SpeedEvil> For rangefinding for things like hoovers.
[1:45] <chris_99> i can't quite work how it splits the image?
[1:46] <chris_99> or what it does
[1:46] <philuk2000> anyone got a sense hat???
[1:46] <philuk2000> astro pi one
[1:46] * DMackey looks out the window for the Pimoroni delivery....
[1:46] <SpeedEvil> chris_99: it's got a v-shaped mirror, and another one
[1:46] <DMackey> nope, still a good week away :(
[1:47] <chris_99> ahh gotcha
[1:47] <SpeedEvil> \ \/ /
[1:47] <SpeedEvil> c
[1:47] <philuk2000> I spent way too much on tech this month!
[1:47] <Berg> i limit meself
[1:47] <Berg> 40bucks a month is my limit
[1:47] <philuk2000> I limited myself, till this month!
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[1:48] * Encrypt (~Chuck@ Quit (Quit: Sleeping time!)
[1:48] <philuk2000> thats cos i decided to hack the kids 3DS and realised I needed some games to do it.
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[1:50] <philuk2000> It's saturday and it's night time, does that mean t's saturday night?
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[1:52] <Berg> does it smell like yellow?
[1:52] <Berg> if not then no
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[1:55] <philuk2000> Berg: I don't have the time or the crayons to explain it to you... :D
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[1:57] <philuk2000> i wanna go back to the 60's and learn some assembly on big dials
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[2:06] <fahadash> philuk2000: you don't have to time travel to learn asm
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[2:09] <philuk2000> fahadash: true, but it's more fun and I would be considered a genius!! :)
[2:11] <philuk2000> darn it, I need someone with a Sense Hat
[2:12] * SpeedEvil has a Sensie hat.
[2:12] * SpeedEvil puts it on.
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[2:18] <Senor_Ivan> Ok so as a novice linux user I feel like I should know this one but for some reason the answer is evading me. I have a 2TB usb external hard drive connected to my Pi and is currently mounted under /media/pi. To provide quick access to it via sshfs I have created a symlink from /media/pi to the home folder. I can access that folder from the Pi itself but not over sshfs. Anybody know what I have not done?
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[2:26] <Senor_Ivan> hahaha wow Idk if it's the right way but whatever lol. I just created a folder for it in home and just mounted it there. It works but if anybody has a more elegant way of doing this please tell me.
[2:27] <grandpa> if it works dont fix it
[2:27] <grandpa> :)
[2:27] <Qatz> Wow pi zero is in stock everywhere atm
[2:27] <grandpa> and i dont get paid till the first :(
[2:30] <Senor_Ivan> Im sure somebody has said that about Winblows lol
[2:31] <deadhound> Reedy I tried the fastcgi directive for nginx you provided @ 6:12 PM EST but i'm getting this error:
[2:31] <deadhound> nginx: [emerg] unknown directive "fastcgi_split_path_info^(.+\.php)(/.+)$" in /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/default:54
[2:31] <deadhound> nginx: configuration file /etc/nginx/nginx.conf test failed
[2:31] <deadhound> Any ideas?
[2:32] <Reedy> Old version of nginx?
[2:32] <Reedy> Seems it needs >= 0.7.31
[2:32] <philuk2000> SpeedEvil: You have a sense hat?
[2:32] <grandpa> http://www.tmart.com/3D-Printer-Supplies/
[2:33] <grandpa> tiny lasere engravers for under $100usd
[2:35] <deadhound> well i noticed my php path is different than the example so i changed that but same error … i think that has something to do with it though
[2:36] <philuk2000> when I come back in another life i'm staying single and having NO KIDS!! (sorry, Rant)
[2:36] <deadhound> because isn't .+\.php regex?
[2:36] * plugwash wonders if/when they will lift the one per customer restriction on the zero
[2:36] <grandpa> seems like everyone i went to school with is now married and has kids.. except me
[2:36] <grandpa> ....horay
[2:37] <grandpa> hooray*
[2:37] <grandpa> :)
[2:37] <IT_Sean> Historically The Foundation lift the One Per limit once demand tapers off.
[2:37] <Qatz> Dodged that bullet
[2:37] <grandpa> ikr
[2:37] <philuk2000> grandpa: I aint married :) thats never happening!!
[2:37] <grandpa> ;p
[2:38] <philuk2000> thats like a legally binding contract.... noooo no no no no
[2:38] <grandpa> yea
[2:38] <grandpa> i dont like contracts and signing things
[2:40] <grandpa> i was thinking earlier if say.. i just refuse to do or pay anything to any body.. just refuse everything and be as uncooprative as i can be...what the worse that could happen
[2:40] <ozzzy> you could lose your freedom
[2:41] <ozzzy> or your treasure
[2:41] <grandpa> im locked up in this apartment 99% of the time anyway
[2:41] <grandpa> when i was in juvi i refused to do anything and i just read a lot
[2:41] <deadhound> what is default root passwd on jessie lite? sudo passwd root isn't working?
[2:42] <philuk2000> grandpa: only prison. I'm all for non compliance :)
[2:42] <grandpa> so they put me in jail, i get out, i have to pay for the time i was in jail but i refuse.. more jail? more refusal to pay
[2:43] <grandpa> at some point it would surely become less productive to even mess with me about it
[2:43] <grandpa> :)
[2:43] <grandpa> anyway
[2:43] <philuk2000> grandpa: yeah, they got ya by the balls cos every other sucker on this planet empowers the establishment that most people don't even like or agree with lol
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[2:43] <grandpa> yea
[2:44] <grandpa> i've always been pretty easy going and compliant but it feels like people are taking advantage of that now
[2:45] <grandpa> what is the default password for root on jessie lite
[2:45] <grandpa> >_>
[2:45] <grandpa> maybe try sudo -s to drop into root shell
[2:45] <philuk2000> grandpa: yep, rich politicians and their corporate buddies
[2:45] <philuk2000> raspberry
[2:46] <xymantec> or sudo bash
[2:46] <grandpa> or sudo su
[2:46] <grandpa> :)
[2:46] <xymantec> or ...
[2:46] <xymantec> lol
[2:46] <grandpa> ^_^
[2:46] <xymantec> sup gramps
[2:46] <grandpa> laying in my comfy bed
[2:46] <grandpa> on my pi3
[2:46] <grandpa> :D
[2:47] <xymantec> lol
[2:47] <grandpa> not laying on it but using it >_O
[2:47] <xymantec> I had to stop using the pi, I couldnt use it for this project
[2:47] <deadhound> thanks grandpa but can you not login as root in jessie lite?
[2:47] <xymantec> or atleast until chromium gets updated.
[2:48] <grandpa> idk i havent used lite afaik
[2:48] <deadhound> hmm
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[2:49] <grandpa> hmmm
[2:50] <grandpa> which project
[2:51] <grandpa> xymantec
[2:51] <SpeedEvil> philuk2000: no
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[2:52] <philuk2000> Ahh, bum hole...
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[2:53] <ShorTie> to login as root, you need to creat a password
[2:53] <deadhound> i tried sudo passwd root and set pw
[2:53] <ShorTie> and if your trying by ssh, you need the hack
[2:53] <deadhound> but can't login as root over ssh
[2:53] <deadhound> aahhhh
[2:54] <deadhound> so nvm
[2:54] <ShorTie> sudo su
[2:54] <ShorTie> passwd
[2:54] <deadhound> ok so use sudo su passwd root to set root passwd over and for ssh?
[2:55] <ShorTie> hack, sed -i 's/PermitRootLogin without-password/PermitRootLogin yes/' /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[2:55] <ShorTie> just as i typed it
[2:55] <deadhound> including "hack, "
[2:55] <deadhound> ?
[2:55] <ShorTie> no no, lol.
[2:56] <deadhound> starting with sed?
[2:56] <deadhound> or -i ?
[2:56] <ShorTie> ya
[2:56] <ShorTie> sudo su
[2:56] <ShorTie> passwd
[2:56] <ShorTie> sed -i 's/PermitRootLogin without-password/PermitRootLogin yes/' /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[2:57] <ShorTie> then you need to reboot
[2:57] <ShorTie> so it takes effect
[2:57] <deadhound> OK rebooting now let's see if that worked
[2:57] <grandpa> service sshd restart
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[2:57] <deadhound> that did it
[2:57] <deadhound> thanks
[2:57] <ShorTie> No Problem
[2:59] <deadhound> now if i could only figure out this nginx php setup haha
[3:00] <grandpa> ;s
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[3:02] * grandpa whispers "lamp"
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[3:04] <deadhound> lmao
[3:04] <grandpa> :)
[3:04] <grandpa> its easier to setup it sounds like
[3:04] <deadhound> for real...
[3:04] <deadhound> nginx is so light though
[3:05] <deadhound> now apache2 isn't running fml
[3:05] <grandpa> i installed it not too long ago and the hardest part was figuring out how to enable userwebspace
[3:05] <deadhound> there it is
[3:05] <grandpa> :>
[3:06] <grandpa> http://brandonginn.net/~pi/
[3:06] <grandpa> hehehhee
[3:06] <deadhound> best way to disable nginx from running on startup?
[3:06] <deadhound> i thought i used systemctl to have it run on startup but can't find that doc now
[3:07] <grandpa> apt remove nginx
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[3:07] <grandpa> idk ;s
[3:07] <deadhound> hahah
[3:08] <deadhound> let me try ONE more thing in nginx… see what happens
[3:08] <deadhound> if this doesn't work apache2 all day
[3:08] <grandpa> :D
[3:08] <grandpa> before installing lamp i thought about trying out nginx
[3:08] <grandpa> but i lacked the motivation to learn
[3:10] <methuzla> deadhound, what's your ultimate goal?
[3:10] <grandpa> world domination
[3:10] * grandpa speculates
[3:10] <methuzla> use assembly then, write your own...
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[3:13] <deadhound> methuzla it's a big project (to me) i just haven't used nginx before always apache2 but trying to keep this project lightweight to have some TI sensors reporting to the pi over wifi
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[3:13] <deadhound> pi will have a webpage with real time info
[3:13] <methuzla> know python?
[3:14] <deadhound> yeah i do and was first thinking django but that's too much i think
[3:14] <deadhound> were you thinking wsgi?
[3:15] <methuzla> there's also flask and tornado
[3:15] <deadhound> i haven't used flask though so that's why i was just going to try it in php
[3:15] <deadhound> because that was my 2nd option since it's a microframework
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[3:16] <methuzla> it would probably be easier/cleaner to use a framework
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[3:18] <stiv> bottle is a very light python-based framework. even has builtin webserver
[3:18] <ozzzy> pythong.... [spit]
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[3:21] <deadhound> stiv never heard of that one that sounds nice
[3:21] <deadhound> going to check that out
[3:21] <deadhound> this might be a dumb question: but does anyone know if sqlite can replace mysql? or just different use cases?
[3:23] <methuzla> probably use case, they basically differ in how fully they support SQL
[3:24] <methuzla> and probably database size/efficiency stuff
[3:25] <plugwash> depends on the application, i'm sure there are places where people use mysql where sqlite would be adequate
[3:25] <methuzla> or even just a text file
[3:30] * ozzzy uses Postgresql
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[3:32] <deadhound> looking for the lightest solution possible
[3:32] <deadhound> so maybe even a text file
[3:32] <deadhound> good idea methuzla
[3:33] <deadhound> alright here's our next php issue! hahah shell_exec('/opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp'); returns VCHI initialization failed
[3:33] <deadhound> in a .php file, but runs fine in ssh
[3:34] <methuzla> python has various simple storage things. pickle. configparser. probably others.
[3:34] <deadhound> i've read it might be a firmware issue?
[3:34] <deadhound> worth looking into methuzla thanks
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[3:35] <methuzla> so using a web framework, could maybe do it all in python
[3:35] <stiv> python plays nice with JSON if you just need to persist some structured data
[3:35] <methuzla> reduce the lamp to just lp
[3:35] <deadhound> yeah i'm working on another project with python and json in django and it's great
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[3:35] <deadhound> i REALLY wanted to use python so i probably will eventually this is basically a prototype of a prototype
[3:35] <xymantec> wtf getting messages over "foul" language...
[3:35] <deadhound> so these are all really great ideas
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[3:36] <deadhound> found the fix for temp issue! jeez i love pi community
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[3:44] <grandpa> beware the penguin
[3:44] <grandpa> doobie doobie dooo
[3:44] <ozzzy> TuxRacer
[3:44] <grandpa> :)
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[3:45] <deadhound> can someone check mitg.ddns.net to see if my script is public?
[3:46] <ozzzy> appears to be
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[3:46] <deadhound> appreciate it ozzzy
[3:46] <ozzzy> ozzzy.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/cmp10 is mine
[3:47] <deadhound> very nice! that's the direction i'm going with it
[3:47] <deadhound> just html + css for frontend?
[3:47] <ozzzy> BASH
[3:47] <ozzzy> with html and css LOL
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[3:47] <grandpa> https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13669751_290802437940797_1226231052925293415_n.jpg?oh=5baef1bbd21f76e57b86a7b17cdf9f19&oe=581E4D61
[3:47] <grandpa> * my current headphones ;3
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[3:48] <deadhound> i ordered an esp wifi board and hope to do reports over RF
[3:48] <grandpa> @ozzzy
[3:48] <deadhound> looks good ozzzy of course BASH haha i meant your tables and stuff
[3:48] <ozzzy> I'm going to turn my pi into a video player
[3:48] <stiv> ozzzy, like this? http://hyperrealm.com/wtfd00d/shsp/
[3:49] <deadhound> ozzzy did you use a tutorial for yours? or just pieced it together yourself?
[3:49] <grandpa> i know of a dns service that will let you point a TLD to a dynamic ip
[3:49] <grandpa> if youd like to do that
[3:49] <deadhound> i think ddns does that but it's paid
[3:49] <grandpa> its what i do
[3:49] <grandpa> the one i use is free
[3:49] <deadhound> is that service free grandpa?
[3:49] <deadhound> yes pls
[3:49] <grandpa> yes
[3:49] <ozzzy> I do it the other way... I don't use the <$... $> tags
[3:49] <grandpa> www.afraid.org
[3:50] <ozzzy> deadhound, I've been slamming together BASH for a while... so it was just an exercise
[3:50] <ozzzy> my package xDVDShrink was BASH and PERL
[3:50] <deadhound> awesome grandpa i wonder if they support .tk!
[3:50] <grandpa> not sure but doubt it
[3:51] <deadhound> so great to interact with all of you doing cool stuff with your pi's i feel like this is what phone phreaks felt like back in the day haha
[3:51] <grandpa> some people share their domain so you can pick from a bunch of domains for a subdomain
[3:51] <deadhound> oh neat
[3:52] <grandpa> yea its a pretty good service
[3:52] <methuzla> deadhound, heard of mqtt?
[3:55] <grandpa> the suspense is killing me
[3:55] <grandpa> what is mqtt
[3:55] <deadhound> i heard about it from in here
[3:56] <deadhound> oh yeah it was when i was asking about TI boards and stuff interacting with pi
[3:56] <deadhound> so def something i'm going to consider
[3:57] <methuzla> never used it, but seen it used with esp based remote sensors
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[4:00] <grandpa> im never going to be able to remember ipv6 addresses like i can ipv4 addresses
[4:01] <methuzla> grandpa, it's like a subscribe/publish kind of transport setup
[4:01] <ozzzy> that's why 'yehaa.pr0n.com' is easy
[4:01] <grandpa> oic
[4:02] <grandpa> i think
[4:02] <ozzzy> texas porn
[4:02] <ozzzy> steers and queers
[4:03] <grandpa> i know a song that has their commanding officer in it
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[4:03] <grandpa> from full metal jacket
[4:03] <ozzzy> the first 1/2 of that movie was great... the last 1/2 not so much
[4:04] <grandpa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4i0cRjZogc
[4:05] <grandpa> i liked the second half personally
[4:05] <deadhound> i'm out for the night have fun all
[4:05] <deadhound> thanks for all the help
[4:05] <grandpa> \o
[4:05] <deadhound> exit
[4:05] <deadhound> lol
[4:05] <grandpa> d'oh
[4:05] <ozzzy> thanks for all the fish
[4:06] <grandpa> and shoes
[4:06] <deadhound> dude
[4:06] <deadhound> ozzzy
[4:06] <ozzzy> I wish they'd make Fields of Fire into a movie
[4:06] <deadhound> you have just been added to the 234581 coincidences this week that happen to reference hitchikers
[4:06] <ozzzy> LOL
[4:06] <deadhound> i've been meaning to start reading it all week and references keep popping up haha
[4:06] <ozzzy> not a fan of the book
[4:06] <ozzzy> liked the movie
[4:07] <deadhound> i haven't read it yet yeah the movie is great
[4:07] <ozzzy> ambivalent on the BBC series
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[4:07] <deadhound> the radio series?
[4:07] <deadhound> or tv?
[4:07] <ozzzy> no.. TV
[4:07] <deadhound> gotcha didn't know one existed
[4:07] <deadhound> i'm in the US
[4:07] <atracht> is there a way to backup a 32gb micro sd that only uses 3gb of space without creating a 32gb image
[4:07] <ozzzy> I'm not... but I'm not in Britain either
[4:08] <deadhound> ah gotcha
[4:08] <ozzzy> atomi, tar
[4:08] <ozzzy> er.... atracht tar
[4:08] <deadhound> ah
[4:08] <atracht> is it faster than zip? it says zipping the img will take 2 hours
[4:08] <ozzzy> tar cspzf [name of archive] / (and a few other options)
[4:08] <deadhound> ok gn!
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[4:09] <ozzzy> 1... you don't tar the img
[4:09] <ozzzy> you tar the filesystem
[4:09] <ozzzy> if you tar the img you won't shrink it much and you'll end up with 32G
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[4:15] <newbism> after much hacking i got both ir sensors working :)
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[4:23] <stiv> yay!
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[4:44] <Eels> I was thinking of powering my Raspberry Pi using a power bank as a UPS. This guy http://raspi-ups.appspot.com/en/index.jsp uses a LAN switch. Do I really need one?
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[4:55] <Wetmelon> So I just started learning Python. Anyone got a good link to embedded programming on the RPi with Python? Or should I just stick to C?
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[4:58] <methuzla> Wetmelon, depends on what you mean by "embedded programming"
[5:00] <Wetmelon> Using the GPIO for switches & sensors, reading CAN bus, displaying to an I2C LCD, that sort of thing
[5:00] <Wetmelon> I'm probably not going to do any RTOS / real-time stuff on it though
[5:00] <Wetmelon> (No safety-critical handling)
[5:01] <methuzla> Wetmelon, and since you're asking here, target board is a pi?
[5:02] <Wetmelon> Aye
[5:02] <methuzla> pretty much just personal preference then. you could get it done with either C or Python.
[5:03] <methuzla> for C, checkout the wiringpi library and associated software
[5:03] <Wetmelon> How do you interface with the GPIO via Python? Wrapper classes?
[5:04] <Wetmelon> Wiringpi - noted.
[5:05] <methuzla> there are several python modules for gpio access, they may take different approaches under the hood
[5:06] <methuzla> RPi.GPIO, RPIO, etc.
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[5:09] <Wetmelon> Cool, I'll look these up. Thanks! :)
[5:10] <methuzla> np
[5:11] <[Saint]> A better question these days might be "What langauage(s) CAN'T you use to govern GPIO locally or remotely on a Raspberry Pi?"
[5:11] <[Saint]> And I would honestly struggle to answer that...
[5:11] <methuzla> VBA?
[5:11] <gnostic> well VBA might be able to
[5:12] <gnostic> there is experiemental support for GPIO access over the network I believe
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[5:12] <gnostic> so if that's true then VBA would be able to do it
[5:13] <Wetmelon> You could program a 6-axis robot in VBA and have it touch wires together on the GPIO lol
[5:13] <gnostic> lol
[5:14] <[Saint]> gnostic: I wouldn't class it as experimental
[5:14] <[Saint]> it is exposed over raspi-config freely
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[5:14] <gnostic> oh, ok
[5:14] <methuzla> is there another VBA? i meant Visual Basic for Applications
[5:14] <[Saint]> Very Big....Ants?
[5:15] <gnostic> methuzla: so did I. Since you can control GPIO over network then you can write the app on Windows using VBA. Dunno why you'd want to though
[5:15] <methuzla> because VBA
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[5:15] <methuzla> oh, right, me niether...
[5:16] <methuzla> could have robot move every time a powerpoint slide is changed
[5:16] <[Saint]> Hell, in that sense, your "app" could just be a shell script deployed over ssh.
[5:17] <gnostic> :D
[5:17] <gnostic> 'tis still an app!
[5:17] <[Saint]> throw some dialog instances around if you want it to actually look like something vaguely ncurses or app-ish.
[5:17] <gnostic> or do this: http://forums.connectedly.com/raspberry-pi-f179/how-controlling-gpio-pins-via-internet-2884/
[5:17] <gnostic> control leds from your android!
[5:18] <gnostic> just want I always wanted really
[5:18] * [Saint] controls GPIO remotely via flipping bits directly with neutrino blasts from his laser eyes
[5:18] <[Saint]> It's easier.
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[5:20] <Wetmelon> methuzla: If you were confused by robot -> VBA, the Denso robots at work use a "custom" language that is essentialy just VB. In fact I think it's just VB with some extensions
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[5:21] <methuzla> i wouldn't even want to be in the same building...
[5:21] <Wetmelon> Neutrinos or robots? :P
[5:23] <methuzla> robots "programmed" with VBA (VB is different)
[5:23] <Wetmelon> Ah
[5:24] <Wetmelon> VBA is the stuff that's embedded in Access and Excel and whatnot, right?
[5:24] <gnostic> I use the ROBO programming language. It's a bit like LOGO but's completely different
[5:24] <methuzla> correct, with a VB like syntax
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[5:26] <cassoPi> wow
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[5:28] <Wetmelon> cassoPi: WoW!
[5:29] <[Saint]> MoM
[5:29] * [Saint] is in the southern hemisphere so he adjusted it to suit
[5:30] <giddles> saint lucifer :)
[5:31] <[Saint]> Well...if you say so.
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[5:31] * [Sinner] loves having both these nicks
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[5:33] <giddles> hrhr
[5:33] <giddles> jackill and hyde?
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[7:58] <gnostic> is this right for calculating an LED resistor? http://dpaste.com/3VY0ZE1
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[8:04] <gnostic> obviously people have died from shock at seeing my calculation
[8:07] <Chillum> umm
[8:08] <Chillum> I think you subtract forward voltage from source voltage
[8:08] <Chillum> then do ohms law
[8:08] <niesse> http://led.linear1.org/1led.wiz?VS=3.3;VF=1.8;ID=20
[8:08] <Chillum> U tend to just use this http://led.linear1.org/1led.wiz
[8:08] <Chillum> s/U/I/
[8:09] <gnostic> yeah I know, but I want to know how http://led.linear1.org actually works
[8:09] <gnostic> subtracting VF from source voltage and applying ohms law gives 75 ohms which is close to what linear1.org shows
[8:10] * fredp2 is now known as fredp
[8:10] <Chillum> embarrassed to say I am not entirely sure, I have been spoiled with calculators
[8:10] <Chillum> linear1 rounds to the nearest common value
[8:10] <gnostic> I do use that calculator btw... but I don't know either lol, which is why I'm trying to work it out
[8:10] <Chillum> which I find annoying
[8:11] <Chillum> I would rather have the actual number and find the common value myself
[8:11] <gnostic> well 75 ohms is a common value isn't it, so I'm not sure what's going on
[8:12] <niesse> i've found a webpage but its in german ;)
[8:12] <gnostic> well cool! Now I just have to learn german
[8:13] <niesse> http://www.elektronik-kompendium.de/sites/grd/1006011.htm :D
[8:13] <Chillum> math is math
[8:14] <Chillum> Ur = Uges - Ud
[8:14] <Chillum> looks like source minus drop
[8:14] <Chillum> then ohms law
[8:14] <niesse> yes
[8:14] <gnostic> looks like subtact forward voltage from source voltage and then apply ohms law?
[8:14] <Chillum> looks like
[8:14] <niesse> ges = gesamt -> source
[8:14] <gnostic> I guess that makes sense
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[8:17] <gnostic> ahh then linear1.org probably adds 5% to the 75 ohm giving 78 ohms, then rounds up to 82 ohms to account for +/-5%
[8:18] <gnostic> rounds up to 82ohms as the next highest standard resistor value
[8:18] <gnostic> mystery is probably solved!
[8:18] <Chillum> ya http://ledcalc.com/ gives 75 as actual answer and 82 as recommended resistor
[8:19] <Chillum> just put two 150s in series
[8:19] <Chillum> err parallel I mean
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[8:20] <gnostic> this is more exciting than an episode of Murder she Wrote!
[8:20] <gnostic> detectives!
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[8:21] <niesse> sherlock :D
[8:22] <niesse> there are even leds with built in resistors
[8:23] <gnostic> fancy
[8:23] <niesse> at least less soldering
[8:25] <gnostic> that's true
[8:25] <gnostic> and no need for calcuations heh
[8:25] <Chillum> built in resistors? just meant for 1 voltage then
[8:25] <niesse> no, you can choose between 3,3 and 5v
[8:26] <Chillum> g'night
[8:27] <niesse> oh, its actually 5 and 12v
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[10:28] <grandpa> le yawn
[10:29] <gnostic> brb, getting grandpa's medication
[10:29] <gnostic> maybe a coffee as well
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[10:41] * gnostic hands grandpa his bacon, eggs, coffee and meds
[10:41] <gnostic> I like grandpa because his nick starts with 'g' like mine
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[10:44] <grandpa> hehe
[10:44] <grandpa> good morning gnostic
[10:44] <gnostic> good evening
[10:44] <grandpa> ;D
[10:47] <grandpa> http://brandonginn.net/blog/index.php/2016/07/22/hello-world/
[10:47] <grandpa> :>
[10:48] <grandpa> ow my tummy @_@
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[10:49] <gnostic> that's a very interesting website!
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[10:50] <grandpa> its new ;p
[10:50] <grandpa> installed apache a few days ago
[10:50] <gnostic> I like meat pies
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[10:52] <grandpa> not sure i've evr had a meat pie
[10:52] <gnostic> :-o
[10:52] <gnostic> that's not good! I'll bake you one
[10:52] <grandpa> sounds good
[10:52] <grandpa> i do like meat
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[10:55] <grandpa> 256?
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[11:04] <gnostic> this is very, very strange
[11:05] <gnostic> I can
[11:05] <gnostic> I can't find my soldering iron
[11:05] <binaryhermit> grandpa: actually it's 512
[11:05] <Robdgreat> gnostic: check the fridge
[11:05] <binaryhermit> themoreyouknow.jpg
[11:05] <gnostic> all my solder is missing as well
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[11:06] <gnostic> brb, checking fridge
[11:06] <binaryhermit> http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/The-more-you-know.png
[11:06] <binaryhermit> gnostic: it'll be the last place you look
[11:06] <gnostic> it's normally on my bench!
[11:06] <gnostic> why would I have moved it?!
[11:06] <gnostic> bizzare
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[11:08] <gnostic> someone must have stoled it!
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[11:08] <Robdgreat> I may have eaten it. It was in the fridge and I was confused
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[11:10] <grandpa> binaryhermit: oic, good to know
[11:10] <grandpa> :)
[11:11] <binaryhermit> late pi b boards had 512
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[11:11] <grandpa> a lot of people dont get that 'the more you know' thing
[11:11] <binaryhermit> as did the b+ I believe
[11:11] <grandpa> i thought you meant the pi 0
[11:11] <gnostic> you ate it?
[11:11] <kerio> can opencl take advantage of the rpi gpu?
[11:11] * gnostic cries
[11:12] <grandpa> actually i did have pie for breakfast ;s
[11:12] <grandpa> chocolate creme
[11:12] <kerio> binaryhermit: of course it's going to be in the last place
[11:12] <gnostic> yeah I made you one -- a beef and bacon meat pie
[11:12] <grandpa> im not good at adulting
[11:12] <gnostic> it's in the post
[11:12] <ShorTie> the more i know, the more i relize i know almost nothing
[11:12] <kerio> it's not like you'll find it and then keep searching
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[11:12] <binaryhermit> indeed
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[11:13] <grandpa> mmmm beef andd bacon
[11:13] <binaryhermit> grandpa: I did mean the 0
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[11:13] <binaryhermit> I was just saying
[11:13] <grandpa> oh ok
[11:13] <grandpa> ah
[11:13] * binaryhermit has a piB with 512
[11:13] <grandpa> me too
[11:13] <grandpa> its not being used though
[11:13] <binaryhermit> I use it as a server for samba, bittorrent, and weechat
[11:14] <grandpa> need another microusb cable :<
[11:14] <grandpa> im using my pi2 as the server :3
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[11:14] <binaryhermit> well, not bittorrent the client, bittorrent the protocol
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[11:14] <grandpa> ic
[11:14] <grandpa> im unsure of the difference ;s
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[11:15] <gnostic> I found it!
[11:15] <grandpa> \o/
[11:15] <gnostic> was in my bedroom :/ I have no idea what it was doing there
[11:15] <gnostic> mmm nice solder with lead in it
[11:15] <gnostic> smells much nicer than the new stuff
[11:15] <mfa298> I think it was only the very first Pi1Bs and all the model A/A+ that had 256MB
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[11:16] <mfa298> although the latest A+ has 512MB now
[11:16] <gnostic> now I forget what I was going to solder
[11:16] <binaryhermit> I probably should consider moving my server to the spare pi3, but moving the config over isn't something I'm looking forward to
[11:17] <gnostic> this is not a good day
[11:17] <gnostic> maybe I've had too many beer
[11:17] <grandpa> :D
[11:17] <binaryhermit> how many marijuanas have you had?</not_a_serious_question>
[11:18] <grandpa> is that possible?
[11:18] <grandpa> :p
[11:18] <grandpa> marihuanas
[11:18] <grandpa> i injected me a marihuana just a moment ago
[11:18] <binaryhermit> lol
[11:18] <kerio> whole? D:
[11:18] <grandpa> :)
[11:19] <gnostic> lol grandpa
[11:20] <grandpa> so many colors!
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[11:21] * grandpa hip
[11:22] <grandpa> bbiab
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[11:41] <no-n> how well does youtube play on the 3?
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[11:46] <[Saint]> no-n: under what circumstances?
[11:47] <no-n> 360p is enough for me
[11:47] <[Saint]> just 'on a pi 3' is a bit vague. under what distribution?
[11:48] <no-n> ahh
[11:48] <no-n> well I'm not sure yet :3
[11:48] <[Saint]> if for instance you were to use a dedicated media platform, like Kodi/LibreELEC, then the answer would be "exceedingly well".
[11:48] <[Saint]> otherwise..."...meh"
[11:48] <no-n> ok
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[11:49] <[Saint]> there's also commandline options available though that may or may not suit your needs.
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[11:50] <[Saint]> like piping youtube-dl to omxplayer.
[11:50] <no-n> *nod*
[11:50] <[Saint]> YouTube in a browser in a full desktop environment on the Pi 3 is less than satisfactory.
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[11:56] <damex> is there a recommendations for camera for rpi motion package (stock) ? rpi official camera is not supported...
[11:57] <damex> i need to make surveillance for apartment
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[12:02] <gordonDrogon> morning Pi Pips!
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[12:26] <binaryhermit> It's too early for this
[12:27] <binaryhermit> 5:26 AM here
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[12:35] <gordonDrogon> 11:35am here - I've been up since 5:30. made 35 loaved of bread and a dozen cinnamon buns ...
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[12:50] <ozzzy> I've been up walking dog
[12:50] <ozzzy> dogs
[12:52] <grandpa> mmm aesop rock
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[12:53] <cassoPi> 35 loaves of bread?
[12:54] <cassoPi> I haven't had a cinnamon bun in ages
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[13:08] <grandpa> leftover crack - jesus has a place for me
[13:09] <grandpa> ;o
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[13:11] <sPJz> software packages for headless server, with minimal GUI when necessary? i don't want to isntall x11 if possible, but i don't seem able to launch sway or chromium thorugh wayland?
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[13:15] <ShorTie> gui == X
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[13:21] <grandpa> http://brandonginn.net/blog/index.php/2016/07/30/michael-parenti/
[13:21] <grandpa> :s
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[13:31] <mfa298> why would you run a web browser on a headless server ?
[13:31] <Habbie> why and/or how
[13:31] <Encrypt> +1
[13:31] <binaryhermit> I could see running a command line browser, something like links/lynx/w3m
[13:32] <mfa298> or curl/wget
[13:32] <binaryhermit> since you could access that through ssh or other similar technology
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[13:35] <binaryhermit> (ssh, telnet, IIRC there's something called shellinabox that is a web-based ssh-alike)
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[13:36] <binaryhermit> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/shellinabox
[13:40] <grandpa> https://www.timeshighereducation.com/books/new-economy-new-slavery/160647.article
[13:40] <mfa298> or easy way to allow someone to hack your box
[13:40] <grandpa> ubuntu u_u
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[13:43] <grandpa> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_knocking
[13:44] <grandpa> could be used with shellinabox
[13:44] <grandpa> for more security
[13:46] <gordonDrogon> cassoPi, yea, typical for a saturday when I don't have a market to do.
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[13:48] * ShorTie really needs to build a cinnamon bun irc transporter
[13:48] <grandpa> mhm
[13:48] <grandpa> i'd use it
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[14:05] <gordonDrogon> the secret of good cinnamon buns appears to be to use lots and lots and lots of good cinnamon.
[14:06] <gordonDrogon> about 3 tablespoons to the filling seems to be almost enough.
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[14:09] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/IMG_20160707_090614.jpg
[14:10] <ShorTie> i do gotta agree with that 'lots and lots and lots of good cinnamon.'
[14:10] <gordonDrogon> I put cinnamon in the glaze too...
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[14:29] <gordonDrogon> fresh or crystalised?
[14:29] <oq> eat it
[14:29] <Habbie> SpeedEvil, you can turn at least some of it into lemonade if you add water and lemon
[14:30] <SpeedEvil> Fresh
[14:30] <Habbie> although once cubed, grating it might be hard
[14:30] <gordonDrogon> gonger ale.
[14:30] <ozzzy> make ginger beer
[14:30] <gordonDrogon> or beer.
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[14:57] <ali1234> okay i am really confused by the backlight driver citcuit on the V1.0 display
[14:57] <ali1234> it's clearly a step-up booster configuration
[14:57] <ali1234> but i can't find any so23-5 regulators with the apparent pin out
[14:58] <ali1234> however, if you goodle "LED backlight driver circuit" on of the first hits is a circuit based on LT1615
[14:58] <ali1234> BUT - the circuit is WRONG
[14:58] <ali1234> however the incorrect pin out it gives is the exact mirror image of ths regulator
[14:58] <ali1234> *this regulator
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[15:00] <ali1234> so if oyu copy pasted that design using a LT1615, then installed the chip upside down to get the reverse pin out... you would get a backlight controller that doesn't work properly using an SMD with an apparently unknown ID code (because it's the code on the bottom of the chip not the code on the top of the chip that you normally see)
[15:01] <ali1234> however it would still basically work, but you would be PWM'ing the power input instead of the SHDN line
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[15:02] <ali1234> this seems unlikely thoug because the regulator has a dot on pin 1. if it was upside down it would be at the other end
[15:02] <ali1234> so i guess this is really a chip with an unusual pin out
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[15:05] <ali1234> the circuit is basically this: http://www.datasheetdir.com/circuits/56/Tiny-Regulators-Drive-White-Led-Backlights-circuits.jpg
[15:05] <ali1234> except the pin out of the main chip is different
[15:06] <ali1234> also component values are slightly different
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[15:15] <ali1234> http://www.diodes.com/_files/datasheets/ZXLD1101.pdf getting closer
[15:19] <ali1234> that one has EN and Vin in the right place but the coil connections don't seem to match
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[15:55] <Chillum> "True Analog Dimming via PWM"... can PWM really be considered "True Analog"?
[15:55] <Chillum> pwm is digital
[15:56] <Chillum> ahhh "The PWM filter components are contained within the chip", I guess you give it pwm and it outputs analog
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[15:57] <Zeno`> err using a DAC?
[15:58] <Zeno`> oh it seems you just use a RC low-pass filter
[15:58] <Zeno`> which is really a DAC
[15:58] <Zeno`> interesting
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[15:58] <Zeno`> just need a resistor and a cap
[15:59] <Chillum> handy chip
[16:00] <Zeno`> what's the chip?
[16:00] <Chillum> http://www.diodes.com/_files/datasheets/ZXLD1101.pdf
[16:00] <Chillum> ali1234 mentioned it earlier
[16:01] <Chillum> it lets you control current with a pwm signal
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[16:06] <ali1234> that isn't the chip
[16:07] <ali1234> but the v1.1 display does do true analog dimming
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[16:07] <ali1234> it puts the PWM signal though a RC filter to smooth it, then uses it to bias the regulator feedback
[16:07] <ali1234> which avoids turning the regulator on and off
[16:08] <ali1234> which stops the horrible squealing
[16:08] <ali1234> i still didn't figure out what the reulator chip is though
[16:08] <ali1234> i think the two displays actually have a different chip
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[16:09] <ali1234> either that or they really did screw up the design on V1.0
[16:10] <ali1234> but that would bean the backlight is being powered directly from the PWM signal
[16:10] <ali1234> *mean
[16:10] <ali1234> which seems unlikely
[16:12] <ali1234> i doubt the ATTINY88 GPIO can supply enough current to power the backlight
[16:12] <Chillum> you should be able to tell if it is running directly off a pwm, just move it back a forth really fast and see if it breaks into line segments to your eyes
[16:12] <ali1234> so it has to be a different chip
[16:12] <Chillum> oh I see, directly off the pin you mean
[16:12] <ali1234> that's the least of my worries
[16:13] <ali1234> let me draw a picture
[16:14] <Zeno`> i love pictures!
[16:14] <Zeno`> can we join the online collaborative drawing?
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[16:18] <ali1234> hmm yeah
[16:19] <Chillum> I am trying to think of ways to use my new oscilloscope
[16:20] <Chillum> I have already fixed 3 projects I had mysterious problems on
[16:20] <Chillum> one had a bad xtal on its atmega, and the other was getting bad ringing in its signal lines. Both problems had left me scratching my head before
[16:20] <Chillum> both solved quickly with the 'scope
[16:21] <ali1234> so the circuit actually makes sense on the V1.1 - it matches the pin out for a standard LED controller
[16:21] <ali1234> but the V1.0 circuit makes no sense at all
[16:22] <ali1234> i mean it makes sense but i can't find any device with a pin out that would make it work
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[16:24] <ali1234> hmm... maybe they really did goof, and connected power to the enable line, and it is drawing parasitic power through that. that would explain why it squeals i guess
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[16:39] <gordonDrogon> unsolder it & re-solder as it ought to be?
[16:39] <ali1234> impossible
[16:40] <ali1234> the board seems to be routed incorrectly
[16:40] <ali1234> i could install jumper wires i guess
[16:40] <ali1234> after bending the chip legs up
[16:41] <Zeno`> Am I using the correct terminology in this example, http://dpaste.com/1GVQWN4
[16:42] <Zeno`> the reason I'm starting from 100 ohms is because I want to avoid floating point until a calculation needs to be done
[16:42] <ali1234> Zeno`: syntax looks okay to me
[16:42] <ali1234> no idea if the numbers are right though
[16:42] <Zeno`> syntax is fine, I meant the terms I am using
[16:42] <Zeno`> like "decade"
[16:42] <Zeno`> So I guess just the words in the comment heh
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[16:43] <ali1234> i don't know
[16:43] <ali1234> why do you want to avoid floating point?
[16:43] <Zeno`> ali1234, it's not precise
[16:43] <ali1234> it's precise enough for 1% tolerance
[16:43] <Zeno`> I don't use floating point until I need to
[16:43] <Zeno`> yeah I guess
[16:44] <Zeno`> then I just have 10.0 10.2 10.5 etc
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[16:44] <Zeno`> so I'm not sure if there is any advantage anyway
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[16:45] <Zeno`> these have to be converted/scaled to between 10 ohms and 1M ohms btw
[16:45] <Zeno`> the 1M accuracy was what I was really worried about but I guess double would handle it fine
[16:46] <Zeno`> it's only one decimal place after all lol
[16:46] <Zeno`> float would probably be good enough
[16:46] <Zeno`> yeah I'll just use floating point
[16:46] <Zeno`> it's more conventional
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[16:47] <ali1234> yeah, 1% is 1% no matter how big the resistor is
[16:47] <ali1234> and float accuracy works the same way
[16:47] <ali1234> significant figures and all that
[16:48] <Zeno`> now I have to type a whole bunch of '.' characters
[16:48] <Zeno`> heh
[16:48] <Chillum> .................. <-- you can copy and paste some of mine if you like
[16:49] <Zeno`> lol, thank you
[16:49] <Chillum> ....,.....
[16:49] <Chillum> on of those is not right!
[16:50] <Zeno`> Chillum, you can just make a copy of the dpaste and put a dot before the least significant digit if you like. E.g. change 100 to 10.0
[16:50] <Zeno`> much appreciated!
[16:52] <Zeno`> in the time I spent typing that sentence I could have written for (i = 0; i < sizeof std_resistor_values_1PERC_DECADE2 / sizeof std_resistor_values_1PERC_DECADE2[0]; i++) printf("%.1f, \n", std_resistor_values_1PERC_DECADE2[i] / 10.0); and just copy pasted but oh well
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[16:53] <Zeno`> meh \n is in the wrong place... would need to do if (i % 8 == 0) printf("\n"); or something
[16:54] <Zeno`> I'm not sure I'm concentrating on this properly
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[16:57] <ali1234> okay here are the two circuits, badly drawn over pictures of the board: http://imgur.com/a/24TFn
[16:58] <ali1234> as you can see, the wiring of pins 1, 2, 3 has not changed
[16:58] <ali1234> but 4 and 5 have been swapped
[16:59] <ali1234> also the PWM has been replaced by an on/off line, and the pwm now goes through the rc filter r32,r33,c74 and then into pin 3
[16:59] <ali1234> okay now i'll redraw these circuits properly so they can be understood
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[17:03] <Okta> Hello everyone!
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[17:04] <Okta> Is there anyone on here who could answer me a quick question regarding dual booting with NOOBS :)?
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[17:08] <Chillum> Okta: just ask
[17:08] <Okta> Thanks!
[17:10] <Okta> I just got my RP 3 this morning and am planning on what to do with it. For one of the installations, I would love to dual boot recalbox and pi-musicbox. As far as I read, I can do this by putting the os folders inside the noobs installation and than installing both os through noobs. Is that right?
[17:11] <Valduare> Okta, look into berryboot as well
[17:12] <Okta> Are there any advanteges berryboot has that noobs lacks? I do know berryboot exists, but noobs looked like the easier option.
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[17:17] <Valduare> both equal easy
[17:17] <Valduare> berryboot lets you do some fun stuff
[17:17] <Valduare> like boot off iscsi
[17:17] <Valduare> ie network hard drive
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[17:21] <Okta> Sounds cool, but isnt need for that project.
[17:22] <Okta> Is there any way to tell noobs have to distribute the space for the os partitions? pi-musicbox is just for streaming and won't need that much.
[17:22] <Okta> *how to
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[17:26] <h9> is there a retail store or a online shop to get a raspberrypi zero in .de/germany?
[17:28] <gordonDrogon> I think pimoroni (based in the UK) ship to europe.
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[17:32] <oq> it would be a bit weird being them based in europe not shipping to europe
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[17:34] <cassoPi> dammit
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[17:39] <Zeno`> that's not good. To get a 1.13 MOhm resistor I need to order 20000 of them
[17:40] <CoJaBo> wat
[17:40] <Encrypt> Zeno`, Welcome to the prototyping world x)
[17:40] <Zeno`> ah, found a place where I can buy just 1
[17:41] <Encrypt> I have to order for 200€ or components to create a prototype
[17:41] <Encrypt> I have hundreds of spare components
[17:41] <Zeno`> yeah it's a bit annoying sometimes heh
[17:41] <Encrypt> Totally
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[18:46] <ali1234> okay here you go, my findings in full: http://imgur.com/a/24TFn
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> Zeno`, why exactly a 1.13MΩ ?
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[18:50] <Zeno`> gordonDrogon, might come in handy?
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[18:51] <Zeno`> I don't want to damage my LED after all
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[18:54] <Kerr-A> Hey, does wiringpi work on the orangepi?
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[19:01] <Zeno`> gordonDrogon, actually I'm just making sure that my "standard resistor value" program actually spits out resistors that are available
[19:02] <Zeno`> I don't think I'll need a 1.13MΩ resistor in the near future
[19:04] <gordonDrogon> Zeno`, typical LED would use a resistor in the range 220Ω to 1K...
[19:04] <gordonDrogon> Kerr-A, I only support wiringPi on the Raspberry Pi.
[19:04] <Zeno`> yes but apparently 1.13MΩ is a standard value
[19:04] <Zeno`> from what I can see anyway
[19:05] <Zeno`> the function is not only for LEDs
[19:05] <gordonDrogon> Zeno`, read this (if you've not seen it already): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferred_number#E_series
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[19:05] <Zeno`> just converting ohms to either the closest or next highest (ceil) "standard" resistor value
[19:06] <gordonDrogon> so 113 is on the 1% category.
[19:06] <Zeno`> yes
[19:08] <Zeno`> these are my tables (I initially had every multiplied by 100 and unsigned int but decided to just go double): http://dpaste.com/1DEFEAH
[19:08] <Zeno`> I've probably got some terminology incorrect
[19:08] <gordonDrogon> 1% resistors are rarely used in practice, although these days it's probably easier & cheaper to manufacture them than in the olden days when I wur a lad ...
[19:08] <gordonDrogon> you just need one table and a set of multipliers.
[19:08] <Zeno`> but I find it easier to learn things if I code them (even if it's useless)
[19:09] <Zeno`> hmm
[19:09] <gordonDrogon> sure - but you might as well just store the E96 table and then multiply by the scaling factor - 0.1, 0.01, 1, 10, 100, etc.
[19:09] <Zeno`> how to use 1 table for 1, 2, and 5% tolerance. I'll think about that! Thanks
[19:09] <Zeno`> ah ok
[19:10] <Zeno`> yes, that would be simpler
[19:10] <Zeno`> this is why I write test code... to learn!
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[19:11] <Zeno`> hmm, I still think I need 3 tables
[19:12] <Zeno`> actually no
[19:12] <Zeno`> can do it mathematically
[19:13] <Zeno`> gordonDrogon, this is all new. I'm week #2 into electronics :)
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[19:22] <Zeno`> gordonDrogon, you just have to accept that I'm insane
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[19:24] <gordonDrogon> E12 and E24 numbers are mostly used - 10% and 5%.
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[19:24] <ali1234> i think the different part markings "TP57" and "TP62" are misleading
[19:24] <gordonDrogon> 12 just means 12 numbers between 10 and 100... you just need to work out the differences - which are log value.
[19:24] <ali1234> I just saw a picture of a V1.1 board with "TP54" on it
[19:25] <ali1234> that would suggest that the parts are the same on all and the V1.0 board really is laid out incorrectly
[19:26] <ali1234> https://www.modmypi.com/image/cache/data/rpi-products/breakout-boards/raspberry-pi-official/7-touchscreen-display/DSC_0783-800x609.jpg this has a TP54
[19:27] <ali1234> this V1.1 has a TP53: http://www.raspberry-projects.com/pi/pi-hardware/raspberry-pi-touch-display/backlight-control
[19:27] <ali1234> i suspect the numbers are a date code or something, and the chip ID is just "TP"
[19:31] <ali1234> weird that V1.0 can be TP54 or TP57 while the V1.1 can be TP53 or TP62
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[19:35] <ali1234> i keep seeing people mentioning a v2.0 display but i can't see any photographic evidence that it exists...
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[20:17] <_26thmeusoc> can someone explain what I'm doing wrong? I want to use the built-in UART in my RPi so I can communicate with my Atmel ATmega328, i have configured the system an can receive data from the controller, but as soon as I send some data the Controller restarts
[20:17] <_26thmeusoc> programming using the built-in SPI works fine
[20:19] <_26thmeusoc> Thanks in advance! :)
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[20:25] <Okta2> Hey, its me again. One quick question, I hope someone can help me with. I'm trying to install pi musicbox through noobs. but i only got the .img file for pi musicbox.how do i get the files to put into the /os folder?
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[20:48] <Zeno`> i am a fierce lion! ROAR!
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[20:50] * Zeno` breaks into gordonDrogon's bakery and eats all the giraffe bread
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[20:55] <Zeno`> *roar*! now I am full of energy
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[21:01] <gordonDrogon> giraffe bread?
[21:01] <gordonDrogon> I don't make that ...
[21:02] <gordonDrogon> _26thmeusoc, voltage levels? Pi is 3.3v ..
[21:03] <_26thmeusoc> gordonDrogon ATmega gets 3.3v from power supply
[21:03] <_26thmeusoc> as i said, programming using the rpi spi works fine
[21:03] <gordonDrogon> _26thmeusoc, oh well - just a thought.
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[21:06] <_26thmeusoc> gordonDrogon thanks! :) using the uart in a circle (rpi-tx->rpi-rx) also works fine and give an echo, but for some reason sending data (rpi-tx->mega-rx) doesn't work (but the other way round: mega-tx->rpi-rx) :/
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[21:07] <gordonDrogon> _26thmeusoc, I've have atmegas connected directly to the Pi's uart in the past and it worked without any issues - I'd rouble check wiring, etc. just to make sure no wires bridges to reset, etc.
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[21:07] <gordonDrogon> off to my garden now - back later...
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[21:20] <dyce_> is it possible to use a mosfet with gpio input to read if an LED is on?
[21:24] <t3chguy> BurtyB: does the Cluster HAT fit onto a Pi if I housed the Pi in a little Coupé case from Pimoroni? or would that be too obstructive of a case? Don't feel right not having a case on it :L
[21:31] <ali1234> i dont see why it wouldn't
[21:32] <ali1234> the top layer on the coupe is the same height as the hdmi connector
[21:33] <ali1234> dyce_: you don't need a mosfet for that. just a resistor will do
[21:33] <ali1234> LEDs are close enough to 3.3v
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[21:35] <DrJ> for a pi that will never use a monitor/hdmi (accessed through ssh only) is there any ill effects of setting gpu memory to 16 or even 0 (if possible)
[21:35] <ali1234> 0 is not possible. 16 will prevent you from using the camera
[21:35] <DrJ> will never use camera
[21:36] <ali1234> it should be fine then
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[21:39] <swensson> Does the Raspberry pi 3 need a seperate sound card for voice input?...
[21:40] <ali1234> yes
[21:40] <swensson> Ahh okej, thanks for info =D
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[21:42] <JakeSays> so anyone know where i might get a soft-float raspbian image? i've gone back to july 15 2012, but its hard-float
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[21:48] <rymate1234> Hi, with raspbian I want to run a pygame application when the Pi logs in at the vt, what's the best way of doing this?
[21:49] <rymate1234> the pygame application is a menu that either starts x or runs kodi
[21:51] <ali1234> ~/.bashrc maybe
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[21:51] <ali1234> depends whether you want it to run for all users or just one
[21:52] <ali1234> actually bashrc is a bad idea
[21:52] <ali1234> unless you make it bail out if the user is remote
[21:52] <rymate1234> just one, and preferably I don't want it to run again if I open a terminal in the pi Xorg session lol
[21:52] <ali1234> yeah
[21:53] <ali1234> you might just want to use a display manager
[21:53] <ali1234> instead of writing your own in pygame
[21:53] <rymate1234> that's not nearly as fun though lol
[21:53] <ali1234> "fun"
[21:54] <ali1234> having worked on X and session stuff, i can tell you that it is not fun at all
[21:54] <rymate1234> fun as in challenging
[21:54] <ali1234> it is certainly that
[21:54] <ali1234> it's literally one of the worst most broken and annoying things in all of linux
[21:57] <JakeSays> *sigh* i'll probably have to build the friggin' thing
[21:58] <ali1234> yeah probably. raspbian soft float hasn't been a thing for ages. why do you even want it?
[21:59] <JakeSays> i'm trying to emulate a device w/o vfp support so i can test some code
[21:59] <JakeSays> and i'm hoping a softfloat kernel won't enable the fpu
[22:00] <ali1234> there is probably a better way to do that
[22:00] <JakeSays> if there is i haven't found one
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[22:01] <JakeSays> but i'm really not in the mood to build a softfloat system
[22:02] <ali1234> you could use debian armel
[22:02] <ali1234> that is soft float afaik
[22:02] <JakeSays> it is, but will it run on a pi?
[22:03] <rymate1234> well I got it working https://gist.github.com/rymate1234/4cc811ff6cc018acc9c655a3e059d894
[22:04] <ali1234> JakeSays: yes it will
[22:04] <ali1234> any pi
[22:04] <ali1234> you just can't mix it with raspbian stuff
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[22:05] <JakeSays> oh hmm i thought there were boot issues to contend with
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[22:07] <ali1234> well yes, but it is only the same as building it all yourself
[22:07] <ali1234> except without all the compiling
[22:07] <JakeSays> i was going to build raspbian so i wouldnt have to deal with the boot issues
[22:08] <ali1234> the boot issues aren't big
[22:08] <ali1234> you just have to assemble the stuff in the fat partiton
[22:08] <JakeSays> ah ok
[22:08] <ali1234> someone probably already did it tbh
[22:08] <ali1234> https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi
[22:09] <JakeSays> i found this: ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/downloads.raspberrypi.org/images/debian/7/2013-05-29-wheezy-armel/2013-05-29-wheezy-armel.zip
[22:09] <JakeSays> but the site is down :(
[22:09] <ali1234> yeah you dont want that
[22:09] <ali1234> it's ancient
[22:09] <ali1234> and the repos which back it probably are down
[22:09] <JakeSays> ancient is fine
[22:09] <ali1234> so you wont be able to install anything beyond the base system
[22:09] <JakeSays> just need soft float
[22:10] <JakeSays> and i dont need anything beyond the base system. the system i'm emulating is extremely 'base system'
[22:10] <JakeSays> like pathetically so
[22:11] <ali1234> http://ftp.vim.org/pub/os/raspberrypi/images/debian/7/2013-05-29-wheezy-armel/
[22:11] <JakeSays> ali1234: ah perfect. thanks!
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[22:16] <ali1234> has anyone ever tried removing the DSI connector and replacing it with a right angle one?
[22:16] <ali1234> i need to use the DSI port with a hat that doesn't have a slot for the cable
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[22:31] <_26thmeusoc> gordonDrogon okay, I found my mistake: disconnecting the ATmega reset pin from rpi gpio is essential for this, but why doesn't GPIO 25 (which used for the reset line) hold its voltage level? o_O
[22:31] <SpeedEvil> ali1234: just fold the cable
[22:31] <ali1234> SpeedEvil: i can't, it has that bit of blue plastic that makes the end rigid so you can push it into the connector (even though the pi has zif sockets)
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[22:39] <Chillum> my bench power supply did just what it was supposed to. I made a mistake on a PCB and powered my pi zero backwards. My power supply just dropped the volts to zero when it saw how much current wanted to flow. All is well
[22:42] <ali1234> hmm... a pattern. some boards say "made in PRC" on them
[22:42] <ali1234> those ones have the different TP codes
[22:43] <ali1234> 1.0 = TP57, 1.0-PRC = TP54, 1.1 = TP62, 1.1-PRC = TP53
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[22:55] <ali1234> hmm... so that LT1937 datasheet basically has both backlight circuits in it
[22:55] <ali1234> and so does the datasheet for the AT731 which is basically a copy
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[23:57] <Cromaglious_> ugh... finally figured out my nfs problems
[23:58] <grandpa> rawr
[23:58] <Cromaglious_> used 191.168 instead of 192.168
[23:58] <Cromaglious_> DOH!
[23:58] <grandpa> hehe
[23:58] <grandpa> it helps

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