#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-08-03

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[0:00] <atracht> trying to mount a samba share via cifs it mounts correctly to a home directory folder via fstab but i can only write to it if I use sudo, how do I set the permissions so my user can write to it without sudo
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[0:18] <Valduare> hows it going
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[0:30] <giddles> can i mine coins with the gpu btw?
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[0:31] <Valduare> wouldnt be useful
[0:32] <vrmxm> Any chance Chrome runs well enough on the Pi 2B+ to use is for Amazon video?
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[0:33] <Valduare> no chrome for arm
[0:33] <vrmxm> Aw snap
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[0:36] <mfa298> giddles: youre not going to get a very good hash rate from the Pi on most coins (and I'm not sure how much gpu support there is for mining)
[0:37] <giddles> i know
[0:37] <giddles> i also know its amd/nvidia related
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[0:40] <Valduare> you could plug few asci miners into a pi
[0:41] <Valduare> but there are better things to do with your time and money :)
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[0:47] <chithead> there is chrome for arm, you have to extract it from chromeos
[0:47] <IT_Sean> That sounds like too much work.
[0:47] <Valduare> there’s some addons that dont or something that you need for it to watch netflix and such for instance
[0:48] <chithead> some people did it with the ppapi flash plugin, which used to be the only thing worthwhile. but now we have html5 eme and all that scary stuff
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[1:03] <vrmxm> So... is there a way to watch Amazon on the Pi that doesn't involve Windows?
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[1:06] <SpeedEvil> android?
[1:06] <Valduare> aye i’d go with a little android device
[1:06] <Valduare> too much fun stuff to tinker with on a pi to relegate one to a tv heh
[1:08] <IT_Sean> that's the beauty of the Pi. They are cheap enough to have two!
[1:08] <Cy-Gor> or 8
[1:08] <Cy-Gor> lol
[1:08] <IT_Sean> That's just madness.
[1:08] <Berg> 5
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[1:13] <SpeedEvil> I meant android on the pi
[1:14] <Valduare> no acceleration yet far as I know
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[1:27] <Smeef> Does uninstalling Python from Raspbian Jessie cause the RPi to not boot properly?
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[2:35] <solidpizza> hello does anyone here know about retropie? I am having a strange issue, I reinstalled, but it still exits the emulator when I press the start button
[2:35] <solidpizza> using the other emulator, I can press start, but none of the other buttons work xD
[2:44] <up2late> #retropie
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[2:49] <Smeef> anyone here using a pi as a workstation? what are some useful apps that work well within the limits of the platform?
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[3:59] <MustBeLucky> hey if i downloaded a script and had to use make, can i edit the .ccp and simply make it again?
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[4:04] <methuzla> MustBeLucky, .ccp? or .cpp? sounds like you downloaded a C++ project, not just a script
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[4:05] <hydrogen> the answer is probably yes
[4:05] <MustBeLucky> the post says .cpp, but i think its a project too
[4:05] <MustBeLucky> actually just .cpp with makefile
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[4:06] <methuzla> make just automates the build
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[4:07] <methuzla> so in general, yes. you can edit the .cpp file and re-run make to rebuild.
[4:07] <MustBeLucky> sorry kind of new to linux. if there is already a build, will it overwrite with the new one?
[4:07] <methuzla> most likely
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[4:08] <methuzla> depends on the makefile though
[4:08] <MustBeLucky> thanks
[4:08] <MustBeLucky> anything i can quickly look for?
[4:09] <methuzla> you could look at the makefile, but if you've never tried to read one, it won't be much help
[4:09] <stiv> basic idea of make is to bring everything up to date. if you touched a .cpp (for example) then stale stuff gets rebuilt
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[4:09] <methuzla> just edit, run make again, and see if it had desired effect
[4:09] <MustBeLucky> perfect thank you
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[4:10] <methuzla> typically, a 'clean' target is included in the make file if you really want to start from scratch
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[4:30] <MustBeLucky> methuzla, thanks worked great
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[4:31] <methuzla> cool. np.
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[4:34] <MustBeLucky> anyone tell you that your username comes off sorta like meth user?
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[4:35] <up2late> LOL
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[4:37] <stiv> yeah. a really, really old meth user
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[4:38] * stiv hehs
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[4:44] <MustBeLucky> very smart one too
[4:44] <MustBeLucky> and there is much to be said about the people who provide support to random strangers expecting nothing in exchange
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[5:18] <Sadale> lol
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[6:05] <hypermist> so either my sd card is full
[6:05] <hypermist> or my pis having mental breakdowns
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[6:11] <[Saint]> "df -h"
[6:11] <[Saint]> no need to guess.
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[9:22] <jonec> Getting the rainbow screen at boot and 7 flashes on my raspberry pi2 using the new CentOS 7 download. This pi works perfectly with the NOOBS and rasbien but will not work with Centos or Kali linux. My Piv1 works with Kali just fine. I have tried using the "dd" command in osx as well as a tool and the sd formatter. Do some pi2 boards just not work and others do? I dont know what else to do other than to flash the .img o
[9:22] <jonec> nto the sd card like I do every other time
[9:23] <jonec> anyone have any ideas why the centos image for the pi2 wouldn't work on a pi2 but the rasbien/noobs does?
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[10:50] <gordonDrogon> morning (or good time of the day to you) Pi Pips ...
[10:50] <binaryhermit> hey
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[10:51] * binaryhermit wonders how much computing power audio decoding takes on armv8
[10:51] <binaryhermit> though in most cases it'd be not much I'd think
[10:52] <gordonDrogon> as in un-compressing to play audio?
[10:52] <binaryhermit> most formats decoded well on an old portalplayer chip that was something like 80 MHz ARMv4
[10:52] <binaryhermit> yes
[10:52] <gordonDrogon> I think Arduinos can play mp3's, so ...
[10:52] <binaryhermit> I think some 486s can
[10:53] <binaryhermit> 25 mhz IIRC
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[10:54] <gordonDrogon> ah, the arduino solution is a separate shield with a processor on it.
[10:54] <binaryhermit> I think my nexus 6p can do hundreds of times real-time from some experimentation with the Android version of foobar2000
[10:54] <binaryhermit> and I believe that's with crossfeed applied
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[10:55] <BurtyB> my 486dx2-66 could handle mp3 playback ok tho encoding was no where near realtime :(
[10:56] <binaryhermit> and converting to 16 bit and dithering
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[10:56] <Triffid_Hunter> heh I had a cyrix 100 that could barely handle mp3 playback over network.. if I changed the vollume slider, it would stall
[10:56] <binaryhermit> well, one thread with crossfeed, converting to 16 bit, and dithering is 58x
[10:56] <binaryhermit> not sure if that's running on a big core or little core
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[10:57] <binaryhermit> without converting to 16 bit or dithering it's almost 200x
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[11:00] <Drzacek> gordonDrogon, morning (does 11:00 still counts?:P)
[11:00] <binaryhermit> gmt+2 Drzacek?
[11:00] <Drzacek> +1
[11:01] <Drzacek> +summertime?
[11:01] <gordonDrogon> sure...
[11:01] <binaryhermit> so right now it's +2
[11:01] <gordonDrogon> 10am here...
[11:01] <binaryhermit> 4:01 AM here
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[11:02] <Drzacek> yeah, sure it adds up to gmt-2, but saying it's gmt+2 would be wrong, because that may implicate that I live further to the east, while I'm not
[11:02] <binaryhermit> I'm GMT-6 in the winter and GMT-5 in the summer
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[11:02] <Drzacek> binaryhermit, usa east coast?
[11:02] <Drzacek> gordonDrogon, UK?
[11:02] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[11:03] <binaryhermit> Drzacek: central time
[11:03] <binaryhermit> Near Chicago
[11:03] <Drzacek> now central is very innacurate term, one would expect central would be gmt 0
[11:03] <Drzacek> :P
[11:04] <gordonDrogon> hmph. waiting on a delivery that should have been here 2.5 hours ago )-:
[11:04] <gordonDrogon> 'driver is stuck in traffic'.
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> pre-historic delivery companys - no live tracking...
[11:05] <Drzacek> hour-precise delivery time? man, I'm lucky if it is +/- 3 days sometimes
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> I often get minute precise deliverys.
[11:06] <gordonDrogon> however this is a food company and they're notoriously stuck in the dark ages. it's a wonder they have a phone at all.
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[11:06] <Drzacek> I would then spend too much time refreshing website with delivery tracking
[11:07] <gordonDrogon> no need really - 90% of the time they're dead-on.
[11:07] <Drzacek> Since I come to agreement with guys from the warehouse and started ordering stuff to my work, my life became a lot easier
[11:07] <gordonDrogon> I work from home...
[11:07] * binaryhermit guesses that single-threaded decoding on raspbian might be faster than his nexus 6p due to java overhead
[11:08] <gordonDrogon> some of the other local delivery companies now know that and use me as the local drop-off if someone is out..
[11:08] <binaryhermit> or lack thereof
[11:08] <binaryhermit> anyway, I'll shut up
[11:08] <gordonDrogon> decoding mp3 ought to be fairly well established and optimised by now I'd have thought ...
[11:09] <binaryhermit> right, but Android uses a java-ish VM for all programs I thought
[11:09] <binaryhermit> for modern cpus it's unlikely to matter
[11:09] <binaryhermit> or at least not much
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[11:09] <gordonDrogon> thought you could program androids natively in c/c++ ?
[11:10] <binaryhermit> not sure
[11:10] * binaryhermit only knows a little java and even less C
[11:10] <gordonDrogon> ok
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[11:14] <binaryhermit> but if an ipod 1st gen with a 90 MHz dual-core ARM7TDMI chip can do it...
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[11:20] <gordonDrogon> what is it that you're trying to do?
[11:20] <binaryhermit> just wondering out loud
[11:22] <gordonDrogon> there's a thing called libmpg123 which is a library with functions in it to decode mp3...
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[11:22] <gordonDrogon> (turns it into PCM I think)
[11:23] <binaryhermit> right
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[11:25] <gordonDrogon> goes with the mpeg123 command-line program.
[11:26] <gordonDrogon> http://www.mpg123.de/index.shtml
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[11:32] <binaryhermit> seems like a rpi1 at stock clock can decode mp3 at over 20x realtime
[11:33] <kerio> i wonder if the gpu could be used for that
[11:33] <kerio> do we have accelerated openCL?
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[11:34] <binaryhermit> err, more like 15x
[11:34] * binaryhermit fail
[11:34] <binaryhermit> though I'm not using my pi1 exclusively for this
[11:35] <binaryhermit> and it obviously probably could be overclocked
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[11:37] <Triffid_Hunter> there's also libmad which is an all-integer mp3 decoder afaik, that would run faster on crusty old devices without hardfloat
[11:37] <binaryhermit> right
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[11:37] <binaryhermit> but the rpi has hardfloat
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[11:39] <kerio> i discovered that the ipad power supply is 5V 2.4A ^-^
[11:39] <kerio> and has a very long power cable
[11:39] <brianx> Even with hard float, integer may be faster.
[11:39] <ShorTie> foundation recommends 5.1v for the rpi3
[11:40] <kerio> it's actually 5.2V i think
[11:40] <kerio> but it's the same, really
[11:40] <ShorTie> cool, even better
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[11:40] <ShorTie> no, that extra .2 makes a big difference
[11:40] <Triffid_Hunter> you'll lose a bit over the cable, ideally want 5.0v at the RPi test points after the input fuse
[11:40] <gordonDrogon> the voltage over 5 is just to compensate for losses in the connectors, cables, polyfuse, etc.
[11:40] <kerio> well, right now i have nothing that takes exactly 5V and doesn't use a regulator
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[11:41] <kerio> i have the pi itself, which converts down to 3V3, and a device that takes 5V and shoves it into a couple regulators for 3V3 and something dumb like 1V2
[11:42] <gordonDrogon> I think the Pi also uses 1.8v.
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[12:30] <CoJaBo> this is very disturbing https://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Summer_website.png
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[12:31] <kerio> so sleek
[12:31] <kerio> so phisticated
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[12:33] <kerio> that floating ring is going to pop because of the 40pin header tho
[12:33] <CoJaBo> lol
[12:33] <Drzacek> cool, didn't know it is waterproof, gonna test with my now!
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[12:34] <shauno> believe that's only supported with the official rpf rubber ducky
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[12:35] <mfa298> that can't be summer, where's the rain ?
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[12:35] <Drzacek> naah, they just want you to buy their official duck, I bet it works fine with the one I get from china
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[12:40] * binaryhermit apologizes for rambling earlier
[12:42] <binaryhermit> also, gordonDrogon I assume you have operator powers in here and could have dealt with me if necessary
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[12:46] <gordonDrogon> huh?
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[12:48] <binaryhermit> I mean, you could theoretically kick or ban me if I was causing a problem with my insane ramblings
[12:48] * ChanServ sets mode +o gordonDrogon
[12:48] <gordonDrogon> theoretically.
[12:48] * ChanServ sets mode -o gordonDrogon
[12:48] <gordonDrogon> do you mean the mp3/audio ramblings?
[12:48] <binaryhermit> yeah
[12:49] <gordonDrogon> not exactly a kickable offence.
[12:49] <gordonDrogon> (as it were)
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[12:53] <giddles> i hate the new sd-card holder @ rpi3...
[12:53] <giddles> pure crap
[12:53] <eshva> is it much different from the one on the rpi2 ?
[12:53] <giddles> am i now kicked? ;)
[12:53] <giddles> jup, the rpi2 has a click one, the latest is only to scratch it in
[12:54] <eshva> oh, that's unhandy
[12:54] <gordonDrogon> can't please everyone...
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[12:54] <giddles> :)
[12:54] <gordonDrogon> the reason, AIUI, is that more people complaind about accidental SD ejection...
[12:55] <giddles> nah they saved some $$$
[12:55] <giddles> and reask 50euro for an rpi3
[12:55] <giddles> supercheap :D
[12:55] <mfa298> and I think there were reports of the clicky holders breaking (springs not working or similar) makign them useless
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[12:56] <giddles> i have many rpi2 and ive never even heard about this problem
[12:57] <giddles> also my b+ had never problems with the spring in the holder
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[12:57] <eshva> me neither btw =)
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[12:59] <mfa298> I've seen both accidental ejection and spring breakage reported on the forums several times
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[13:00] * BurtyB has a rpi2 to program/test hats with the SD card taped in as it would quite often fly across the room
[13:00] <mfa298> I'd suggest neither option is brilliant, they both have their drawbacks.
[13:00] <giddles> i organize sales for the medicalbizz... if i would offer my cutomers a downgrade on my products at a higher price they will be not forgetting this
[13:00] <giddles> same on rpi
[13:00] <mfa298> and as gordonDrogon said: can't please everyone...
[13:00] <giddles> bad sd card holder, bad temp specs
[13:00] <giddles> only 1gig ram (even a newswebsite eats more)
[13:00] <giddles> and the price is half a xu4
[13:00] <giddles> :D
[13:01] <giddles> while the xu4 is a octa with 2gb ram and all shit you need like usb 3.0
[13:01] <gordonDrogon> don't be silly - the medical business I know charges double and deliveres half regularly ... )-:
[13:01] <giddles> hehe nah not with us ;)
[13:01] <gordonDrogon> and keep it family friendly if you're going to whinge, giddles
[13:01] <giddles> i know yes
[13:01] <giddles> ..
[13:02] <mfa298> I've had no issues with the SD card holder on my Pi3s, then again I've not had an issue on the Pi2 either. And I don't have a particular preference one way or the other
[13:02] <giddles> im ENTJ ? :D
[13:02] <giddles> https://www.16personalities.com/entj-personality :D
[13:03] <gordonDrogon> good for you. try thinking before you type.
[13:03] <giddles> dont worry even my boss get a spitfire from me :=
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[13:05] <ozzzy_> the SD card holder on the 3 is just fine, simpler with less things to break
[13:06] <t3chguy> My free RPi3 arrived :D
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[13:07] <giddles> well its not a myth that rpi communication is unprofessional, i read it out from a journalist that rpi3 came out... the technical specs downseized, the temperature is a joke... (need a fan)... and this conventions the teachers treat me like an alien for using it as server/camera/otherwise but not educational
[13:08] <giddles> im sad
[13:08] <giddles> make rpi great again
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[13:09] <BurtyB> I'd hardly call a different product a downgrade.. if you want to buy a pi2 buy a pi2
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[13:09] <ozzzy_> I'll be downgrading my gateway to a Pi2
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[13:13] <Drzacek> Trump for RPi president!
[13:13] <giddles> hrhr
[13:13] <Drzacek> I hope he wins
[13:13] <Berg> why?
[13:14] <[Saint]> man fswebcam is neat
[13:14] <giddles> Berg, you want clinton? :)
[13:14] <Berg> has he promiced you something you desire?
[13:14] <Drzacek> hah!
[13:15] <mfa298> you don't need a fan on the Pi3, you don't *need* a heatsink (although it might help)
[13:15] <Berg> i dont want any of them
[13:15] <[Saint]> set it up to capture every 60s, then rsync to a server for archive. set it to start discarding every 24h and keep a buffer of 24h worth of frames.
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[13:15] <giddles> lol i use a heatsink mfa298
[13:15] <[Saint]> redneck security.
[13:16] <giddles> temp=52.6'C
[13:16] <giddles> in idle :D
[13:16] <[Saint]> I could probably extend the buffer it allows for images.
[13:16] <mfa298> and the soc is rated to 80C, so you've got plenty of headroom
[13:16] <giddles> ja, lets open a browser
[13:16] <[Saint]> a full day's worth of 640x480 jpgs captured every 60s is surprisingly little.
[13:17] <Drzacek> my rpi3 never got any hotter than my pi0 during retropie sessions
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[13:17] <[Saint]> I punish my pi3 with HEVC and it never gets above 65~68C
[13:17] <binaryhermit> [Saint]: I believe that's 1440 jpegs
[13:17] <[Saint]> all my clients media boxes (all pi3s) are similar.
[13:17] <binaryhermit> and vga res jpegs can be quite small
[13:18] <[Saint]> binaryhermit: yea
[13:18] <mfa298> I've run the Pi3 at full CPU with a heatsink and it mostly managed full speed, it sometimes throttled a small amount. But that's by design.
[13:18] <giddles> temp=64.5'C
[13:18] <[Saint]> I guess I'll extend it to a full weeks worth of backlog
[13:18] <binaryhermit> depending on compression level
[13:18] <[Saint]> then start trimming after that.
[13:18] <[Saint]> might run out of sdcards quickly, though.
[13:18] <[Saint]> that's a whole lot of writes over time.
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[13:20] * binaryhermit wonders out loud when the next raspbian release will be
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[13:20] <[Saint]> but, yeah, I get a nicely timestamped file with a nice date format every 60s into a temporary location, which is then whisked out every hour to a server using rsync.
[13:20] <[Saint]> the server is currently set to keep 24h worth of images (I'll extend this to 7 full days later) and then clean up in 24h increments on a 24h schedule.
[13:21] <[Saint]> then I can run simple comparison/recognition against the images and pull statistically significantly different frames.
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[13:22] <[Saint]> and - bingo. no need to trawl through a shedload of images to find out what happened. I can also stitch it into a timelapse mpg I guess.
[13:23] <[Saint]> I'll write a full wrapper script for all this tomorrow.
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[13:23] <[Saint]> then people can daemonize it I guess. I'll put it on my github when I'm done.
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[13:24] <[Saint]> I could make it local only and remove the rsync/server component for simplicity I guess.
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[13:27] <[Saint]> hmmm, adding imagemagik alls for viewing in console over ssh/screen
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[13:50] <gordonDrogon> binaryhermit, raspbian is effectively debian. it's updated constantly (security), but the next Debian release for "stretch" has not been set yet. I suspect late 2017 to early 2018.
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[13:53] <Drzacek> gordonDrogon, does raspbian also has "testing" and "unstable" versions like debian?
[13:54] <Drzacek> btw the os itself doesn't need many updates, it's fine as it is. It's the new features like new gcc version and rpi device tree that needs to be updated/added
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[13:54] <gordonDrogon> I think so, but I'm not involved with any of that stuff. Plugwash is the person to chat to if you can see him online.
[13:55] <Drzacek> What gcc do we have in current raspbian?
[13:55] <gordonDrogon> I suspect the foundation will keep stuff like the kernel/devTree updated independantly though. not sure about gcc - I suspect maintainig that separate from debian might be hard...
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[13:55] <gordonDrogon> gcc version 4.9.2 (Raspbian 4.9.2-10)
[13:56] <Drzacek> I had to switch to "testing" on my machine, because stable has 4.9 something
[13:56] <Drzacek> and I needed gcc5
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[13:56] <gordonDrogon> it's 4.9.2 on another Debian 8 system too.
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[13:56] <gordonDrogon> (ie. not Pi Debian)
[13:57] <Drzacek> yeah
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[14:00] <gordonDrogon> gcc5 got some good features?
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[14:03] <ModFather> gordonDrogon : https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/changes.html
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[14:12] <gordonDrogon> nothing I need to write home about by the looks of it :)
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[14:14] * ozzzy_ just ordered another Pi3
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[14:21] <[Saint]> heh - finally got it.
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[14:22] <[Saint]> */1 * * * * fswebcam -d /dev/video0 -r 640x480 -S 20 $HOME/webcam/`date +\%F-\%T (\%A\ \%B\ \%d\ \%Y\ \%H:\%M\ \%Z\ \%z)`.jpg
[14:22] <[Saint]> I was pulling the occasional black frame.
[14:22] <gordonDrogon> only 640x480? that's a bit small by todays standards...
[14:22] <[Saint]> need to warm up for 20 frames for autobrightness and autofocus, then discard those frames and capture.
[14:23] <[Saint]> and, yes, it is. I'm just testing at this stage.
[14:23] <[Saint]> I haven't actually bothered pulling a full list of cupported modes from this webcam.
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[14:25] <[Saint]> spaces in the filename are a bit unconventional - but I like that date format for sequential captures.
[14:25] <binaryhermit> gordonDrogon: I actually meant the next image on the downloads page of raspberrypi.org
[14:26] <gordonDrogon> binaryhermit, oh - no idea really. Ithink they put them together whenever there's a significant change to the bootloader or something.
[14:26] <binaryhermit> fair enough
[14:26] <gordonDrogon> you can normally apt-get update/upgrade (and sometimes dist-upgrade) to get the same effect.
[14:26] <binaryhermit> right
[14:26] <gordonDrogon> or of they get another sponsor and add their packages in by default...
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[14:27] <binaryhermit> or they add packages like the bluetooth stuff recently
[14:28] <binaryhermit> but they're pretty transparent about that usually
[14:29] <Drzacek> gordonDrogon, c++14 support
[14:29] <gordonDrogon> I don't do c++ so it's not relevant to me.
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[14:30] <Drzacek> I do mostly c++, but on x86, not pi
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[14:32] <binaryhermit> I believe someone attempted to try to get the raspberry pi foundation to add a sketchy .exe file to raspbian
[14:32] <binaryhermit> I remember reading that somewhere
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[14:34] <binaryhermit> http://www.pcworld.com/article/3018485/security/malware-peddlers-offered-raspberry-pi-money-to-infect-your-micro-pc.html
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[14:39] <Drzacek> binaryhermit, lol
[14:40] <Drzacek> but actually, that was easy money. Since that .exe would be harmless on linux, it's win-win
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> Hmph. I can track a package from Italy to my door (it's currently on a plane from Milan), but I can't track 1/4 tonne of flour from Oxford - 4 hours drive away )-:
[14:40] <binaryhermit> that's a lot of flour
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> 18 x 16Kg sacks. just over �tonne.
[14:41] <Drzacek> backing bread?
[14:41] <gordonDrogon> yes, I make a lot of bread.
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[14:42] <gordonDrogon> not much on a weds. 20 loaves and 4 baguettes this morning.
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[14:42] <Drzacek> Fully automated process, or do you use slave labor?
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> I'm the slave.
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> I have a couple of mixers though.
[14:43] <Drzacek> cool, baking break and making music @ the same time?
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> I don't make music.
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> at least not that you might recognise. The didgeridoo is the only "instrument" I play these days.
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[14:46] <Drzacek> A stick with holes in it
[14:46] <Drzacek> so it's a flute
[14:47] <n0vacane> gordonDrogon, pics or gtfo
[14:47] <gordonDrogon> a dig only has one hole - from top to bottom.
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> n0vacane, pardon?
[14:48] <n0vacane> of bread
[14:48] <n0vacane> mmmm
[14:48] <n0vacane> nom nom
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> family friendly, I hope ...
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> and we say yum yum over here.
[14:49] <n0vacane> family friendly for now
[14:50] <Drzacek> I believe I saw picture of your "bakery"
[14:50] <gordonDrogon> then please watch what you type..
[14:50] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/IMG_20151004_115933.jpg
[14:50] <n0vacane> YUM
[14:50] <n0vacane> where and how much
[14:50] <n0vacane> ?
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[14:51] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/IMG_20151216_084715.jpg
[14:51] <gordonDrogon> my loaves sell from �1.50 to �2.50.
[14:51] <n0vacane> i could eat it all
[14:51] <n0vacane> that
[14:51] <n0vacane> that's like 10$ cad
[14:51] <n0vacane> im sure it's good though
[14:52] <gordonDrogon> http://moorbakes.co.uk/buy/ <--- for the where ...
[14:52] <n0vacane> maybe ill buy one
[14:52] <n0vacane> too bad i cant buy online and ship to canada and still have it edible
[14:53] <n0vacane> im getting hungry now
[14:53] <gordonDrogon> a big sourdough might last, but I suspect foor import regs. might twart you.
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[14:54] <n0vacane> So, you use an arduino as a PID controller for your oven?
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[14:54] <gordonDrogon> no, a Pi.
[14:54] <n0vacane> Is it a lot more consistent?
[14:54] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi-controlled-oven/
[14:54] <gordonDrogon> it makes better cakes.
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[14:55] <n0vacane> wow, you made a graph. that's interesting
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[14:55] <gordonDrogon> I've made loads - gnuplot.
[14:56] <n0vacane> how bad is the oven's temperature control just by itself
[14:56] <n0vacane> probably swings +/ 25 degrees C or so?
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[14:57] <gordonDrogon> a bit less.
[14:57] <Drzacek> looks good, but I wouldn't buy it
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[14:57] <gordonDrogon> but the key thing is the length of time the element is on + off with the mechanical controller - so you get 3-4 minute blasts of red hot air, then nothing.
[14:58] <n0vacane> i see
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[14:58] <gordonDrogon> with the Pi controller, it's 0.1second intervals, so you get long blasts when its coming up to temperature, but once at temp. it's very short blasts - think very slow PWM.
[14:58] <n0vacane> that's really cool
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[14:59] <n0vacane> i bet it improves the consistency by a large margin
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[14:59] <Drzacek> gordonDrogon, now that is one of the coolest rpi idea I saw (beside the rpi powered gameboy of course)
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> yes - consistency. also for cooler things - I did some meringues a couple of weeks back - I was able to set it to 65�C and ran it for 3 hours.
[15:00] <n0vacane> excellent
[15:00] <Drzacek> I assume correctly that you only make such big loaves?
[15:00] <n0vacane> how has your relay held up?
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> Igenerally make 2 sizes - small + large - in UK terms they're 400 or 800g baked weight.
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[15:00] <gordonDrogon> the SSR is fine. it's a 40amp one - it's only switching 10amps.
[15:01] <n0vacane> oh duh, UK 220V
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[15:01] <gordonDrogon> well, 230 which is really 240...
[15:01] * n0vacane slaps himself
[15:02] <n0vacane> you guys can probably get away with smaller gauge electrical wire too i bet
[15:02] <gordonDrogon> that's the general idea, but almost all rooms are wired in a ring though.
[15:02] <n0vacane> i think i have 8AWG wire going to my oven
[15:03] <gordonDrogon> generally 2.5mm^2 wire in a ring here.
[15:03] <gordonDrogon> and rings are usually good for 30 amps total.
[15:03] <n0vacane> interesting
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[15:04] <gordonDrogon> I have 2 x 3Kw ovens (13A) and a 2.2Kw oven (the Pi one, 10A)
[15:04] <gordonDrogon> the Pi oven is fed off a separate circuit.
[15:05] <n0vacane> so a 125A electrical panel is probably fine for a 2 bedroom house, even with electric baseboard heat i bet
[15:05] <gordonDrogon> most houses have a 60 or 80amp incoming mains fuse.
[15:05] <n0vacane> i have a 125A panel and it's not enough. house is only one bedroom
[15:05] <n0vacane> wow
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[15:05] <gordonDrogon> sure, but you need double the amps at half the volts...
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[15:06] <gordonDrogon> we also have gas heating.
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[15:06] <n0vacane> i am leaving canada for the first time in december
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[15:06] <n0vacane> going to thailand
[15:07] <n0vacane> my mind is going to be blown
[15:07] <gordonDrogon> it'll be a bit warmer.
[15:07] <n0vacane> i wonder if i need to bring a multimeter
[15:07] <gordonDrogon> I've not traveled out that way. The Solomon Islands might be the closes.
[15:07] <n0vacane> test for continuity in the shower before i take one
[15:07] <gordonDrogon> you'll be fine. if it doesn't tingle it's OK.
[15:08] <n0vacane> not familiar with that, you've done some travelling though i bet?
[15:08] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[15:08] <n0vacane> barcelona?
[15:08] <gordonDrogon> no, but been to N. Spain. Bilbau.
[15:08] <n0vacane> that was my #2 choice
[15:09] <n0vacane> maybe i wont come back to canada
[15:09] <gordonDrogon> been to egypt 7 or 8 times, but I used to do a lot of diving - not seen a Pyramid though!
[15:09] <n0vacane> oh that's interesting. i would like to try diving but i am in pretty rough shape these days
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[15:09] <n0vacane> weak back
[15:10] <n0vacane> ever been to UAE? i have a stop over in abu dhabi
[15:10] <n0vacane> like 10 hours
[15:10] <gordonDrogon> not been there.
[15:11] <gordonDrogon> stop-overs don't count - according to my wife who has done a lot of traveling. you have to spend a night there ...
[15:11] <n0vacane> haha ok i suppose
[15:11] <gordonDrogon> I spent nearly 3 years is the US though.
[15:11] <n0vacane> hope they treated you well
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[15:11] <Lartza> Aren't you unable to leave the airport for most stop-overs anyways? :P
[15:12] <n0vacane> i can leave the airport in UAE
[15:12] <gordonDrogon> sometimes. it depends where you are.
[15:12] <n0vacane> i think i get a visitors visa on arrival or something like that
[15:12] <Lartza> Oh yeah Canadians do
[15:12] <Lartza> EU citizens get in visa-free :3
[15:12] <n0vacane> hehe
[15:12] <Lartza> except ireland and UK
[15:13] <n0vacane> what's to stop someone from moving to france just for the health care?
[15:13] <Lartza> And yeah depends on the country if you have to stay at the airport of course
[15:13] <Lartza> Immigration process
[15:13] <n0vacane> they have doctors that still do house calls apparently
[15:14] <Lartza> You can't just get a citizenship with the snap of your fingers usually :P
[15:14] <n0vacane> oh, you cant migrate freely within the EU?
[15:14] <Lartza> I don't know
[15:14] <Lartza> I mean
[15:14] <n0vacane> or maybe the EU visa free stuff is just for work?
[15:15] <Lartza> No, all EU residents in UAE can be 90 days there visa-free
[15:15] <Lartza> except ireland and UK they get visa on arrival
[15:15] <Lartza> 30 days
[15:15] <Lartza> Or do you mean into EU visa free?
[15:15] <Lartza> Sorry
[15:15] <n0vacane> yes the latter
[15:15] <Lartza> If you are inside EU that doesn't make you eligble for any health care :D
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[15:17] <Lartza> Nothing is stopping you from going through the citizenship process though but that's what stop's anyone from just moving to France
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[15:17] <Lartza> n0vacane, Also you as a canadian can only stay 90 days visa-free here :P
[15:18] <n0vacane> So with this brexit thing, I can just drive from France to England for a day trip and get it renewed then I guess
[15:18] <Lartza> 90 days inside any 180 day period
[15:18] <n0vacane> oh
[15:18] <n0vacane> damnit
[15:18] <Lartza> :D
[15:19] <Lartza> Also UK is still EU
[15:19] <Lartza> And UK has a different visa policy to EU
[15:19] <Lartza> So I am not sure if you can even get to UK
[15:20] * n0vacane becomes a refugee
[15:20] <n0vacane> let me in now!
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[15:20] <Lartza> Citizenship route is probably easier ;)
[15:20] <Lartza> Migrating slowly
[15:21] <n0vacane> im not sure i can handle the european way of life
[15:21] <Lartza> Haha :D
[15:21] <n0vacane> everything seems so expensive
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[15:21] <Lartza> It's different depending on where you are
[15:21] <n0vacane> yeah i guess
[15:21] <n0vacane> i remember reading about this doctor in the UK
[15:21] <Lartza> East is cheap :P
[15:21] <Lartza> West and north are expensive
[15:21] <n0vacane> only makes like 30k pounds a year
[15:22] <n0vacane> has a 400k pound house
[15:22] <Lartza> public or private?
[15:22] <n0vacane> public
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[15:22] <n0vacane> meanwhile, a canadian public doctor in a rural area here is making over 300k/yr
[15:22] <n0vacane> sure, thats only like 100k euros
[15:22] <n0vacane> but
[15:23] <n0vacane> err
[15:23] <n0vacane> 171k gbp
[15:23] <Lartza> I think a public doctor here makes 70k€ year on average
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[15:23] <n0vacane> what do you do Lartza
[15:23] <Lartza> Really depends on the city and which public sector though
[15:24] <Lartza> Student, computer science at university :)
[15:24] * n0vacane is envious
[15:24] <n0vacane> let me guess
[15:24] <n0vacane> free tuition
[15:24] <Lartza> Yes
[15:24] <n0vacane> free room and board
[15:24] <n0vacane> free public transit
[15:24] <n0vacane> free food
[15:24] <Lartza> Nah
[15:24] <Lartza> board?
[15:24] <n0vacane> err
[15:24] <n0vacane> free accomodations
[15:25] <Lartza> None of those are free
[15:25] <Lartza> Tuition is
[15:25] <n0vacane> ok, well thats not much different than here
[15:25] <Lartza> You get welfare though
[15:25] <n0vacane> tuition is only like 1500$ cad / semester
[15:25] <gordonDrogon> right. flour delivered - now to unload it...
[15:25] <Lartza> And food is really cheap, like 2,5€ a day
[15:25] <n0vacane> no welfare allowed though
[15:25] <n0vacane> gordonDrogon, good luck
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[15:25] <Lartza> student welfare, government backed student loan
[15:25] <FeersumEndjinn> Which country?
[15:25] <Lartza> Finland
[15:26] <FeersumEndjinn> Nice :)
[15:26] <FeersumEndjinn> I know a few Finn's - all Ice Hockey players!
[15:26] <n0vacane> ok, well we get gov backed student loan,but only qualify if your parents are dirt poor
[15:26] <Lartza> I only pay like 110€ a semester as a student union membership and that gets me health care
[15:26] <n0vacane> they wont let you on welfare if you are a student
[15:27] <FeersumEndjinn> In the UK, degrees mean less and less as the years go by, and the cost goes up.
[15:27] <Lartza> We have separate welfare for students which is worse than being jobless but still
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[15:27] <Lartza> Also everyone gets student loan afaik
[15:27] <Lartza> 400€ a month though so it's probably a bit different structure here
[15:28] <n0vacane> well ok, what i said is not entirely true. however, if your parents make anywhere near the median salary you are probably going to get a loan for like 300$
[15:28] <Lartza> Also government pays 40% of your loan if you graduate on time
[15:28] <n0vacane> wow
[15:28] <FeersumEndjinn> To give you an example - the junior developer I've just hired has a PhD in astrophysics...
[15:29] <n0vacane> but on the other hand, you wouldn't hire a jr dev without a phd
[15:29] <FeersumEndjinn> yes we would - my highest qualification is my 10 metre swimming certificate.
[15:29] <zrts> I have an archlinux flash drive which i'm logged into and I want to chroot into a kali ARM installation on an sd card but i got "/bin/bash: exec format error"... any thoughts?
[15:29] <FeersumEndjinn> I'm entirely self-taught.
[15:30] <n0vacane> wow right on
[15:30] <Lartza> It really depends here too
[15:30] <Lartza> If you have stuff to show for they hire you out of Uni before you get your PhD :P
[15:30] <n0vacane> zrts, maybe different architecture?
[15:31] <zrts> n0vacane: sure but there is a guide where the guy uses a x86_64 too
[15:31] <zrts> to chroot into his arm
[15:31] <Lartza> Friend of a friend was asked back to work this summer and he asked for a raise, no PhD, got the job :P
[15:31] <FeersumEndjinn> I'm a software engineer in charge of a £1.3m IT development project. hard work, but if you have the right mindset a degree is irrelevant. I hired her because during her PhD she had to write pieces of software to parse her vast amounts of data, and she decided she liked it.
[15:31] <Lartza> He's still doing his phd though
[15:31] <FeersumEndjinn> I hired her purely because of her mindset, and she's scaring me how quickly she's learning.
[15:32] <n0vacane> i'm in my 30s and i was going to go back to school to finish my bachelors
[15:32] <mfa298> zrts: if you're going cross platform you'll need some emulation in there, I think you can do that on some systems with a qemu binary put in the right place
[15:32] <n0vacane> im getting swayed not to though
[15:32] <n0vacane> especially when my first required class is
[15:32] <FeersumEndjinn> I'm 35, and almost went to uni 12 years ago to study Forestry and Woodland Management. We all end up in different places :D
[15:32] <n0vacane> 1000 Computer Science – An Introduction is a gentle introduction to computer science. In a breadth-first overview approach it discusses important aspects of computer science including fundamentals in algorithms, binary data representation, Boolean logic and its implementation, machine architecture, systems software, networking concepts, programming languages, databases, and selected Computer Science subfields.
[15:33] <n0vacane> i've been programming for almost 20 years
[15:33] <FeersumEndjinn> Feels a little too simple?
[15:33] <n0vacane> including assembler
[15:33] <zrts> mfa298: indeed, ty
[15:33] <FeersumEndjinn> "This is a database"...
[15:33] <FeersumEndjinn> Zzzzzz
[15:33] <Lartza> I have a friend who studies forestry :P Started after high school even though that's usually the route to uni
[15:33] <n0vacane> we have forestry engineers here
[15:34] <FeersumEndjinn> The salary in the UK is poor, less than half what I earn now. The question I ask myself is, would I be happier?
[15:34] <n0vacane> literally professional engineers
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[15:34] <Lartza> I don't know how stuff works on other countries but we have "University of applied sciences" schools that you usually go to after a work degree
[15:34] <Lartza> And if you don't get a work degree but go to high school you usually go to a regular university
[15:35] <n0vacane> happier in the UK ?
[15:35] <n0vacane> Lartza, what do you mean by work degree? you mean bachelor level/
[15:35] <Lartza> Vocational school
[15:35] <Lartza> I didn't know the term for that
[15:35] <n0vacane> ok
[15:36] <n0vacane> yeah we call that 'college' here in canada
[15:36] <n0vacane> and you get a 'diploma'
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[15:36] <Lartza> Yeah we don't have anything we call colleges here
[15:36] <n0vacane> USA college can be anything
[15:36] <Lartza> Basically the things you call high schools here you go straight to university from
[15:38] <Lartza> Except colleges are...
[15:38] <Lartza> I've never really thought of this :D
[15:38] <n0vacane> im starting to think that the only downside of living in a scandinavian country is the weather
[15:38] <n0vacane> what are the summers like
[15:38] <Lartza> What do you mean, sunny outside!
[15:38] <Lartza> It was pouring rain and cold an hour before ;)
[15:39] <Lartza> Summers are rainy and 27 are the best few days
[15:39] <Lartza> 27C
[15:39] <n0vacane> like where I live then
[15:39] <Lartza> Winter is minus that then ;)
[15:39] <n0vacane> not much different
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[15:40] <n0vacane> i would get in trouble with my wife though pretty easily i bet
[15:40] <n0vacane> "why were you looking at her?"
[15:40] <n0vacane> then again, im sure that would happen in most european countries
[15:41] <Lartza> :P
[15:41] <gordonDrogon> done.
[15:42] <n0vacane> you're a machine gordonDrogon
[15:42] <n0vacane> that's alot of flour
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> 18 bags.
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/IMG_20160803_142726.jpg
[15:43] <n0vacane> 16kg bags would get pretty heavy after ten or so
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> I've moved them inside the house.
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> that's 4 weeks worth. not bad for a little home0based bakery.
[15:44] <n0vacane> dont you have any little wimpies to move this stuff for you
[15:44] <gordonDrogon> home-based.
[15:44] <gordonDrogon> no. just me & wifey and I won't let her lift them.
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[15:45] <n0vacane> id be a horrible father
[15:45] <gordonDrogon> (mostly because despite me showing her how to safely lift heavy things she just snatches using her back and one day... )-:
[15:45] <n0vacane> yeah, same problem here
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[15:45] <n0vacane> not just with the wife either, guys i work with too (im a craftsman)
[15:45] <gordonDrogon> I never had the chance to be a daddy, but I have young nieces who're great fun.
[15:46] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, You have no raspberry pi controlled conveyor belt to move these bags in? :P
[15:46] <Encrypt> I'm disappointed :x
[15:46] <n0vacane> !
[15:46] <gordonDrogon> Encrypt, well... it's not that far, really...
[15:46] <Encrypt> :P
[15:47] <Lartza> Raspberry Pi AI robot to do everything
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[15:47] <Lartza> Just get a few Pi's I'm sure the prosessing power will at least meet IBM's Watson
[15:47] <gordonDrogon> I fancy some sort of suit thing. bother. forgotten the generic name. like what Ripley used in Alien2 ...
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[15:48] <n0vacane> hehe
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> exoskeleton.
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[15:48] <Lartza> Those are probably buildable in the not too distant future
[15:48] <Lartza> AI's may still be a bit far :P
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> I think progress has been made - but the usual issues are power delivery..
[15:49] <Lartza> Yeah I mean you can build one now but you'd be tethered to something and it would be awkard
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> and safety - they could break limbs if not careful.
[15:50] <Lartza> Nobody wants a ripped flour bag inside their house :P
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[15:50] <gordonDrogon> no no no ...
[15:50] <gordonDrogon> there's enough flour dust as it is ...
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[17:32] <curlyears> I am here, are you there?
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[17:43] <n0vacane> no u
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[17:51] <sir_galahad_ad> nou
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[17:56] <IT_Sean> Morning
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[18:09] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
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[18:44] <Qbopper> Hey, I had a quick question about something I'm doing with my pi
[18:44] <Qbopper> is this an ok spot to ask?
[18:45] <oq> yes
[18:45] * IT_Sean points out that if Qbopper had read the channel rules he would know that it is perfectly okay ot ask questions here.
[18:45] <Qbopper> ...good point.
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[18:45] <Qbopper> Didn't even see the link, my bad.
[18:45] <n3ob> Read instructions? not till it won't work..
[18:45] <brianx> does anyone want my sparkfun 10% off promo code? i'm not buying anything before it expires. PM, first request gets it.
[18:47] <Qbopper> it's actually not about a pi, but I figured this was a good place to ask anyways - I'm making a little retropi console for my dad to use, and I wanted to know what kind of product is best to fill in holes I dremel and keep things together
[18:48] <Qbopper> I'm using a busted sega genesis shell and was going to make holes for the hdmi/whatever output in the back
[18:48] <Qbopper> and I'm not sure what would be the best thing to use to seal it up
[18:48] <IT_Sean> I would use a plastic filler putty, then sand & paint.
[18:50] <Qbopper> perfect, I'll see if we've got any and if not head out to the shop
[18:50] <Qbopper> thanks a ton
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[18:54] <[api]> this probably gets asked a ton around here but: are there any ARM64/AARCH64 SD card images for Debian yet? I've done a ton of Googling but most of the discussions I've found are from as early as 2013 and are hopelessly out of date. Debian has an ARM64 page but no mention of Pi. (Maybe I should ask over on debian?)
[18:56] <brianx> [api]: the gpu code to allow the pi 3b to run in 64bit hasn't been written yet.
[18:56] <oq> wait really?
[18:57] <oq> I thought that was all binary blobs
[18:57] <[api]> hmm
[18:57] <[api]> I'd be okay with text only, but maybe that code is still required
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[18:57] <[api]> I just want to test/develop some software for AArch64
[18:57] <[api]> no HDMI needed except maybe initial setup
[18:58] <brianx> the pi boots off it's gpu. it has nothing to do with video of any kind.
[18:59] <brianx> i don't know the details, just that there are plenty of posts on the .org forums about it.
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[19:06] <BluesKaj> are there any tutorials to help solve my vpn/.ovpn configure error on raspbian jessie/ pi 3? I´ve been searching for weeks, but not much help except old advice that doesnt apply or just freezes my connection
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[19:09] <brianx> [api]: hmmm, seems like some progress has been made and as of 4.4.7 it may be possible to get into 64 bit mode. https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/579 has some info but it's not for the feint of heart.
[19:10] <[api]> can you run a 32-bit kernel and debootstrap an ARM64 userland?
[19:10] <[api]> that would be totally fine
[19:10] <brianx> [api]: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=144302 too. search the .org
[19:10] <[api]> okay
[19:10] <[api]> I might just try that -- 32-bit kernel and debootstrap ARM64
[19:10] <brianx> this isn't something i've done, but it looks like it *may* be possible now.
[19:10] <[api]> can you run aarch64 binaries?
[19:11] <brianx> maybe
[19:11] <[api]> that would be fine since the kernel being 64-bit is not really important
[19:11] <[api]> I just want aarch64 dev tools and userland
[19:11] <[api]> that's easy to test
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[19:38] <dreamon> I can only run jessie von RPI3. wheezy dont boot on RPI3. But I have issues using motion on RPI3 and jessie. Is it possible to use wheezy on RPI3?
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[19:52] <mfa298> dreamon: there are nightly builds of wheezy that might work http://nightly.raspberrypi.org/
[19:53] <mfa298> although it might be better trying to get things working on Jessie as that's going to be supported longer
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[19:59] <BluesKaj> any chance thereś a 64 bit version in raspbian/rpi 3ś future ?
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[20:01] <Chillum> it is an arm processor
[20:01] <Chillum> not on this hardware, possibly on future hardware
[20:02] <dreamon> mfa298, I tried since 2months.. now I give up.
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[20:09] <gordonDrogon> you might need to copy the /boot files from a jessie SD card to a wheezy SD card.
[20:09] <gordonDrogon> also any kernel modules in /lib/modules.
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[20:16] <Habbie> Chillum, huh? the pi3 cpu is 64 bit capable
[20:17] <Chillum> is it?
[20:17] <Chillum> I did not know that
[20:17] <ShorTie> ya but, the firmware doesn't support it (or what ever it is)
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[20:18] <ShorTie> so your stuck to armv6 right now i do believe
[20:18] <BluesKaj> there aren any 64bit kernela yet afaik
[20:18] <ShorTie> you can do a 64bit kernel
[20:19] <ShorTie> it's getting to the kernel that needs work
[20:21] <BluesKaj> well, if it still runs 32 bit apps there isnt much point until theyŕe ported to 64bit
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[20:22] <ozzzy_> http://www.togastro.com/ozzzy/images/pitop.jpg
[20:24] <oq> is that keyboard really tiny or that thing massive?
[20:24] <ozzzy_> it's a largish screen with a smallish keyboard
[20:25] <oq> I don't get why
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[20:25] <oq> If you want a low end cheap linux laptop get a netbook
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[20:25] <ozzzy_> hey... I didn't design it
[20:25] <ozzzy_> this thing outruns my netbook
[20:26] <oq> an outdated arm soc outruns an intel atom?
[20:26] <IT_Sean> oq, netbooks don't have buckets of GPIO for leet hax
[20:26] <ozzzy_> and that
[20:26] <ozzzy_> my intel atom is about 7 years old
[20:27] <oq> yeah not many arm chips can outrun a 7 year old intel
[20:27] <Habbie> ShorTie, not stuck to v6 - even my pi runs in v7 mode
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[20:28] <Habbie> if you like the pitop, the superbook on kickstarter might also be interesting
[20:28] <gordonDrogon> ozzzy_, so.. worth it?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> is that lapto ome of the emmc things?
[20:29] <BluesKaj> laptop , ozzzy_
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[20:30] <oq> BluesKaj: no it's a pi inside a laptop housing
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[20:32] <gordonDrogon> if Pi top have a London address then why is it priced in dollars )-:
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[20:33] <IT_Sean> Because AMEERIKA!
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[20:36] <gordonDrogon> hm. �224.99...
[20:36] <gordonDrogon> without Piv3.
[20:36] <gordonDrogon> maybe if the screen were bigger, but ..
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[20:37] <oq> gordonDrogon: maybe kickstarter require it
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[20:38] <gordonDrogon> don't think so - I've backed/bought kickstarter stuff based in the UK in � before.
[20:38] <gordonDrogon> it's just a fraction too much...
[20:38] <gordonDrogon> (for what you get)
[20:39] <ShorTie> i hear that
[20:39] <oq> have you seen the desktop version? It looks so awkward
[20:39] <oq> https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/pic-3.jpg
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[20:40] <gordonDrogon> I'm looking to maybe get a cheap/throwaway laptop of some sorts to go traveling with next year. The little Dell inspiron with the celeron cpu is looking attracive - �143.
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[20:41] <gordonDrogon> same size screen + built in speaker & webcam.
[20:41] <oq> this? http://www.dell.com/uk/p/inspiron-11-3162-laptop/pd?ref=PD_OC
[20:42] <oq> 32gb emmc? looks a bit iffy
[20:42] <gordonDrogon> the older one: https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/11.6%22+Dell+Inspiron+11-3162+Notebook+w%2F+Windows+10+Home+%2B+McAfee+Internet+Security+2016+-+Blue+?productId=66213
[20:42] <oq> I'd rather something a little thicker and get a proper 2.5" hdd to work with
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[20:43] <gordonDrogon> like I said; throwaway....
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[20:44] <oq> the windows folder on my desktop is 20gb by itself
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[20:44] <oq> and how much of that 32gb is actually usable?
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> 30Gb after I re-image with Linux.
[20:45] <gordonDrogon> I just want something I can dump my DSLR to - however taking a stack of SD cards is plan B.
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[20:45] <oq> 128gb sd cards are quite cheap nowadays
[20:46] <gordonDrogon> not sure my camera would take them. it's a few years old now.
[20:46] <oq> gordonDrogon: the spec for cards of that size says they want exfat but I don't think there's anything stopping you from putting fat32 on it
[20:47] <ozzzy_> gordonDrogon, still in the checking phase.... their desktop thingy sux
[20:47] <ozzzy_> it's a lot zippier than I expected
[20:49] <gordonDrogon> oq, yea, not an issue though - I'd be happy enough with a few 16GB ones.
[20:49] <gordonDrogon> ozzzy_, you could just put ordinary raspbian on, I guess.
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[20:49] <oq> neither will have accelerated x though
[20:49] <gordonDrogon> anyway, laterz. my rhm69 radios are talking (Pi to Arduino) and I need to do some stuff in the bakery...
[20:50] <iananananan> hiya, trying determine if the pins on this page are the actual pin numbers or GPIO##: https://learn.adafruit.com/raspberry-pi-analog-to-digital-converters/mcp3008
[20:50] <iananananan> do they correspond to the 1-40 numbers, or the gpio numbers?
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> iananananan, it's an SPI device. works with wiringPi - test: gpio -x mcp3004:200:0 aread 200
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> iananananan, the pin numbers given on the page are physical pin numbers.
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> type: gpio readall to get a printout for your Pi.
[20:52] <gordonDrogon> actually - it's not right at all. it's very wrong. unless they bit-bang their own SPI...
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[20:53] <iananananan> gordonDrogon: gpio readall on the bash prompt?
[20:53] <gordonDrogon> hm. yes, they softwre SPI.
[20:53] <gordonDrogon> iananananan, yes - if you're running raspbian it ought to be installed.
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[20:54] <gordonDrogon> must go & make bread & cake now. back later.
[20:54] <IT_Sean> I want cake!
[20:55] <ozzzy_> gordonDrogon, that's what I did... just popped in MY sd card
[20:55] <BluesKaj> I want a raspberry pie !
[20:55] <IT_Sean> Cake > Pie
[20:56] <ShorTie> but icecream rulez !!
[20:57] <IT_Sean> Ice cream WITH cake rulez
[20:57] <IT_Sean> That's it... im havin' cake * icecream feh lunch!
[20:57] <IT_Sean> (not really)
[20:57] <ShorTie> whip cream ??
[20:57] <iananananan> hrm, i'm not confident if i need to use the BCM or gpio numbers. i'm pretty sure i need the BCM.
[20:58] <ShorTie> depends on the library your using and/or how you initialize it
[21:00] <iananananan> https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Python_MCP3008/blob/master/Adafruit_MCP3008/MCP3008.py
[21:00] <iananananan> here's the code. can't tell which based on it though.
[21:00] <iananananan> following an adafruit guide but it's ambiguous as to which
[21:01] <iananananan> well, i suppose it's obvious which to use but i'm not reading any input, so unless i accidentally fried the chip by feeding it 5v earlier or i mis-breadboarded something
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[21:07] <ShorTie> 'feeding it 5v' into a gpio pin ??
[21:07] <ShorTie> you atleast fried that 1 i would think
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[21:08] <IT_Sean> Other than the 5v supply pin, the GPIO pins are 3.3v. Putting 5v on a 3.3v pin will kill the pin (if you are lucky) or the pi (more likely).
[21:11] <ali1234> http://i.imgur.com/ODnR8aq.jpg
[21:11] <RoBo_V> i'm using motion with webcam it is detectingmotion but not streaming :/
[21:12] <ali1234> does anyone else actually care about V1.0 backlight dimming? should i send that board for production?
[21:13] <iananananan> ShorTie: IT_Sean, i fed the 5v pin into the ADC chip
[21:14] <iananananan> well, sorta, fed it thru a resistive sensior
[21:14] <IT_Sean> you do know that the 5v pin isn't switchable, right?
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[21:17] <iananananan> IT_Sean: switchable?
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[21:35] <grandpa> http://www.framesdirect.com/framesfp/XXL-ncrinb/r.html?affiliate=59&utm_medium=retargeting&utm_source=Criteo&utm_campaign=start_january_2015
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[21:36] <grandpa> i think i should get those and grow out my hair and beard
[21:36] <grandpa> :3
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[21:37] <skulltip> is the pi3 powerful enough to host two or three wordpress sites?
[21:37] <oq> depends on how many visitors they get
[21:38] <skulltip> only a handlful, no more than 10
[21:38] <oq> a day?
[21:39] <skulltip> maybe, not even that much.. 2 to 3
[21:39] <skulltip> and is there a recommended server
[21:39] <oq> definitely powerful enough
[21:39] <skulltip> os
[21:40] <oq> skulltip: raspbian lite + nginx would be good
[21:40] <skulltip> ty
[21:40] <pksato> how many ms visitor can wait for wp deriver a page?
[21:40] <iananananan> skulltip: instead of wordpress, consider github pages, you don't need to py for hosting costs
[21:40] <iananananan> or have a rasppi runnig all the tim
[21:41] <skulltip> would want private stuff, and be able to upload up to 4Gb just to make sure there's room
[21:41] <skulltip> ue4 basic project is close to 1Gb
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[21:46] <RoBo_V> can anyone help https://paste.debian.net/786809/ motion streaming opening and closing.
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[22:19] <ozzzy_> well... not even a 1/2 day old and the pitop has been modified
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[22:19] <oq> modified?
[22:20] <ozzzy_> I tapped into the test points for the the Pi's audio jack and ran an earphone/speaker jack to the case
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[22:28] <grandpa> ozzzy_: dont you need an amp for that?
[22:30] <ozzzy_> nope
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[22:35] <stiv> just good hearing!
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[22:49] <Simonious> the pi user doesn't get a .bashrc?
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[22:49] <Simonious> and doesn't run it even if you create one?
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[22:50] <Hitechcg> Simonious: why do you say that?
[22:51] <shauno> it won't use bashrc if it's a login shell. it's a long and complicated story
[22:53] <shauno> if you don't care about the difference, just symlink ~/.bash_profile to ~/.bashrc and move on with life. if you do care, look for the 'INVOCATION' section in man bash
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[22:54] <Hitechcg> Or put this in .profile:
[22:54] <Hitechcg> if [ -n "$BASH_VERSION" ]; then
[22:54] <Hitechcg> if [ -f "$HOME/.bashrc" ]; then
[22:54] <Hitechcg> . "$HOME/.bashrc"
[22:54] <Hitechcg> fi
[22:54] <Hitechcg> fi
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[22:54] <IT_Sean> please use pastebin next time. Thanks.
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[22:54] <Simonious> shauno: ty :)
[22:54] <IT_Sean> Also makes it easier for the person you are talking to to copy pasta
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[22:55] <Hitechcg> should've done that, sorry
[22:55] <grandpa> i have a case for the pi that only has 1 usb port
[22:55] <shauno> (this isn't actually specific to the pi. just probably the only time anyone still logs in at the console instead of a terminal emulator)
[22:55] <grandpa> but i dont own that pi
[22:55] <stiv> i personally wouldn't do the symlink. those files are two different things. source it if you need to, ala Hitechcg
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[22:56] <Simonious> ooo copy pasta!
[22:57] <grandpa> i like my copy pasta with butter
[22:57] <shauno> I know it looks ugly, but it's served me well for 20 years. it does work, but it's probably wise to understand why
[22:57] <binaryhermit> and garlic and parmesan grandpa
[22:57] <grandpa> sure
[22:57] <Hitechcg> http://pastebin.com/w7cLwsrQ
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[22:58] <Hitechcg> Simonious: ^
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[23:13] <Simonious> so I'm opening chromium in kiosk mode and pointing it at localhost and it comes up with.. a big white screen.. unless I hit F5, then it works fine.. I'm not planning to run a keyboard with kiosk mode, so... how do I get it to not need the refresh?
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[23:16] <grandpa> Simonious: black magic
[23:16] <grandpa> :P
[23:16] <stiv> what does 'pointing it at localhost' mean exactly?
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[23:17] <Simonious> 127.0.0.1
[23:17] <Simonious> or 'localhost' if you prefer
[23:17] <grandpa> >_>
[23:17] <stiv> no webpage? what *exactly* is the url?
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[23:18] <Simonious> well.. that goes to the webpage, so.. put http:// in front of that
[23:18] * stiv knows what the localhost part means
[23:18] <Simonious> the webpage works fine under all circumstances except this one, and it works fine here too, it just needs the F5 before it does.
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[23:19] <Simonious> it's supposed to be a kiosk install it just does the ONE thing
[23:19] <Simonious> so no reason not to have the page at the 'root' level
[23:19] <stiv> if you want a web page, point it at a web page
[23:20] <RoBo_V> can anyone help https://paste.debian.net/786809/ motion streaming opening and closing.
[23:20] <stiv> unless you want your kiosk to say Welcome to Nginx or such
[23:21] <Simonious> That isn't what the top level page points at... it's been replaced with the kiosk content
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[23:36] <grandpa> :)
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