#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-08-10

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[0:00] <IanTLopp> michal_f, yeah, well, until recently, I didn't have a reason to have a pi
[0:01] <IanTLopp> now I have access to a 3d printer, a laser cutter.. I definitely have a reason to have a pi now.
[0:01] <IanTLopp> err, several reasons
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[0:05] <michal_f> :)
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[0:05] <michal_f> 3d printer and laser cutter... great 'toys'
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[0:07] <IT_Sean> I'm jelly. I want a laser cutter
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[0:09] <grandpa> xx
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[0:12] <IanTLopp> not mine - just have access to them.
[0:12] <IT_Sean> I'm still jelly.
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[0:13] <IanTLopp> He's offering to sell me his old 3d printer... I'm tempted, but, like him, I want a dual extruder.
[0:15] <IT_Sean> why?
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[0:17] <Chillum> double the extruding
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[0:18] <IT_Sean>
[0:18] <vrmxm> Two extruders
[0:18] <vrmxm> One model
[0:18] <IT_Sean> Not sure I see the point, unless you regularly need to make two copies of the same thing simultaniousily.
[0:19] <vrmxm> Wouldn't it print something in half the time?
[0:19] <Berg> 2 colours
[0:20] <IanTLopp> sorry about the lack of response - working on a tracing right now.
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[0:21] <IanTLopp> double extruders best option is to print a matrix in a water soluble extrusion, while the main model is in the standard plastic
[0:21] <IanTLopp> vrmxm: nope, but if you want fast printing, look up carbon3d.com
[0:21] <IanTLopp> something that used to take 8+ hours can be done in 15 minutes using that
[0:22] <vrmxm> I won't. It's be like putting Oliver Twist in front of a donut shop.
[0:22] <vrmxm> *It'd
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[0:23] <vrmxm> Which is to say I'd kill to play with toys like that, but have exactly zero monies.
[0:23] <vrmxm> Not *literally* kill, you understand
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[0:24] <IanTLopp> oh I understand...
[0:24] <IanTLopp> it's $40,000 to rent it for a year.
[0:24] <IanTLopp> err.. to clarify, as low as $40,000
[0:24] <vrmxm> Well, with the prospect of a clearance investigation in my near future, I want to make sure I'm not misunderstood :P
[0:24] <IanTLopp> depends upon how much you use it, and how much you make them.
[0:24] <IanTLopp> ahh.. gotcha
[0:25] <IanTLopp> I'd hate to have someone look into my background, as big a file as I have at the FBI...
[0:25] <IanTLopp> all for stupid shit because of my neighbors and the patriot act too.
[0:25] <vrmxm> o_O
[0:25] <vrmxm> You threaten to blow up their yippy dog?
[0:25] <IT_Sean> IanTLopp, please review the channel language policy, which is linked in the topic. Thank you. :)
[0:26] <IanTLopp> err.. sorry, didn't mean to cuss...
[0:26] <IanTLopp> too many channels open, and doing too many things at once.
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[0:59] * HtheB is now known as slappingbot
[1:00] <IT_Sean> (O_o)
[1:00] * slappingbot is now known as HtheB
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[1:01] <IT_Sean> HtheB, slappingbot?
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[1:03] * SlappingBot slaps IT_Sean
[1:03] <HtheB> yeah, SlappingBot
[1:03] * ChanServ sets mode +o IT_Sean
[1:03] * SlappingBot slaps HtheB
[1:04] * SlappingBot was kicked from #raspberrypi by IT_Sean
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[1:04] <HtheB> he's not a bot
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[1:04] <IT_Sean> Looks like a bot. Smells like a bot. Tastes like a bot.
[1:04] <CoJaBo> ..tastes?
[1:04] <HtheB> but isn't a bot.
[1:04] * SlappingBot slaps CoJaBo
[1:04] <SlappingBot> :P
[1:05] <Valduare> tasting is the only true test
[1:05] <HtheB> lol
[1:05] <Valduare> like the captcha of the internet :P
[1:05] * SlappingBot slaps Valduare
[1:05] <HtheB> ugh
[1:05] <HtheB> I hate those captchas
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[1:06] <Valduare> take it back SlappingBot
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[1:06] * SlappingBot slaps crawler
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[1:06] <vrmxm> Wut...?
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[1:06] <HtheB> he loves to greet people with a slap
[1:06] <HtheB> its a reference to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm_niiQfeWc
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[1:07] <vrmxm> Not enough internets for whatever that is right now
[1:07] * SlappingBot slaps vrmxm
[1:07] <IanTLopp> I'm guessing it's a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide movie... but slappingbot isn't responding to people saying the words "think" or "idea"
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[1:08] <HtheB> no, its a guy who;s slapping everyone at a party
[1:08] <crawler> haha, just watched the video - its great ;)
[1:08] <HtheB> a parody on The Slap
[1:08] <HtheB> yeah :D
[1:08] <IanTLopp> AHH...
[1:08] * vrmxm slaps SlappingBot right back
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[1:08] <vrmxm> Don't crush my flow, bro
[1:08] <vrmxm> I'm 'stalging
[1:09] * SlappingBot slaps IanTLopp
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[1:09] <HtheB> ok enough slapping
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[1:09] <IanTLopp> I was okay with it until he slapped the cat... poor thing
[1:09] <IT_Sean> yeah, SlappingBot is about to get booted for flooding./
[1:09] * SlappingBot slaps HtheB
[1:09] * SlappingBot slaps SlappingBot
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[1:10] * IT_Sean sets mode +b *slappingbot*!*@*
[1:10] <HtheB> nooooz
[1:10] <HtheB> IT_Sean: cant handle a joke?
[1:10] <HtheB> he was already gone
[1:10] <HtheB> while slapping himself :D
[1:11] <IT_Sean> Sorry, I jave joins/parts supressed in my client. I'll remove the ban. ...for now. :|
[1:11] * IT_Sean sets mode -b *slappingbot*!*@*
[1:11] <HtheB> heh
[1:11] <HtheB> now I wanted to do something...
[1:12] <HtheB> but meh...
[1:12] * IanTLopp wonders how effective a pi zero rendering farm might be.
[1:13] <vrmxm> IanTLopp -- As effective as nipples on men.
[1:13] * IanTLopp wonders how to respond to that.
[1:13] <vrmxm> Just go with it.
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[1:14] <IanTLopp> except, nipples on men are.. nevermind
[1:15] <IT_Sean> yeah, nevermind.
[1:15] * IanTLopp whistles innocently and walks away
[1:16] <torchic_____> IanTLopp: :3 what
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[1:17] <IanTLopp> torchic_____, the purpose of this channel is to discuss the RaspberryPi, not the possibilities of one's sexuality.
[1:17] * IanTLopp goes silent.
[1:18] <torchic_____> u cd use a pi for a :3 sex thing
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[1:18] <IT_Sean> torchic_____, Drop it.
[1:18] <torchic_____> :<
[1:19] <IT_Sean> That sort of discussion is not approperate for #raspberrypi
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[1:23] <Valduare> the room grows resless the pi foundation must release a new pi to get everyone back on topic
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[1:25] <CoJaBo> I hope the Pi4 finally has HEVC support
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[1:26] <mfa298> build a time machine with your pi3, then you can go to 2019 and find out what the Pi4 can do (or if it's been released by then)
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[1:27] <Berg> i made my pi3 a wifi hot spot but its got a bad range
[1:27] <Berg> any suggestions
[1:27] <IT_Sean> I have a time machine. I've been to 2020. The Pi4 is going to be AMAZING.
[1:27] <IT_Sean> I can't saay any more, though.
[1:27] <Berg> future parradox
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[1:28] <Berg> pi3 needs a wifi range extender
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[1:29] <CoJaBo> ..just add a usb wifi thing lol
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[1:30] <Berg> defetes the purpose of buying a rpi3
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[1:39] <Rickta59> did you set the wifi country Berg ?
[1:40] <Berg> i think so it works
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[1:40] <Rickta59> i mean did you actually set it or leave it to the default?
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[1:40] <Berg> hmm i forget
[1:41] <Berg> where is that set i followed a guide on web
[1:41] <Rickta59> are using raspbian Berg ?
[1:42] <Berg> https://frillip.com/using-your-raspberry-pi-3-as-a-wifi-access-point-with-hostapd/
[1:42] <Berg> yes
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[1:48] <Rickta59> I don't have one so i can't say it for sure, google seems to show some people have turned off wifi and done a apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade
[1:48] <Rickta59> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=139021
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[1:50] <Berg> me cricks the link
[1:50] <Berg> i have a Japanese mouse
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[2:13] <Wetmelon> Has anyone here used a RasPi for vehicle telemetry? I'm not sure what to use for broadcasting. Was thinking maybe a 933MHz device of some sort
[2:14] <Wetmelon> Racecar, about 100 yards tops
[2:14] <Wetmelon> LOS
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[2:29] <SpeedEvil> do you actually need reliable telemetry, with no dropouts, or is simply replaying whenever you come into range fine
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[2:29] <SpeedEvil> For 100 yards, if line of sight, wifi, with the appropriate antenna on top of the car may work just fin
[2:29] <SpeedEvil> e
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[2:37] <ali1234> yeah, it totally depends if you want the data in real time, or if you want to download it later
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[2:37] <ali1234> real time would be much harder
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[2:44] <moparisthebest> are there any armv8 images compiled for the rpi3 ?
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[2:51] <SpeedEvil> No.
[2:52] <SpeedEvil> There is not the required support from broadcom
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[2:54] <moparisthebest> well that sucks
[2:54] <moparisthebest> what about armv7 like would run on an rpi2 ?
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[5:00] <ClaudiusMaximus> hi! "gcc -O3 -march=native" crashes on my pi3 with raspbian jessie (think it was a double-free error), what are the best alternative optimisation options for numeric code? so far I've tried "gcc -O3 -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=neon" with quite ok results
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[5:12] <swift110-phone> hey
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[5:14] <stiv> ClaudiusMaximus, as a general rule, -O2 is considered safe. -O3 can be iffy
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[5:15] <ClaudiusMaximus> stiv: ok - I guess I should test and only apply it to specific translation units if it's both ok and faster
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[5:16] <swift110-phone> ok
[5:16] <Valduare> g'evening
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[5:17] <Valduare> tonights project, connect an arduino to my pi zero via i2c
[5:17] <Valduare> and control something
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[5:19] <ClaudiusMaximus> woe, even latest qemu rc changelog says it can't load raspbian due to missing device drivers :( was hoping to run a vm with more ram so i can compile non-trivial haskell stuff with ghc (which doesn't support cross-compiling)
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[5:28] <moparisthebest> with the camera, I can use raspistill, but there is no /dev/video0 so I can't grab video from that, what do I need to do to get that working?
[5:29] <moparisthebest> the official rpi camera that is
[5:29] <oq> raspivid?
[5:30] <moparisthebest> I want to use ffmpeg though, can I get a /dev/video0 ?
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[5:35] <moparisthebest> ah modprobe bcm2835-v4l2 fixes it, wonder why that isn't loaded by default...
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[5:47] <UncleKiwi> hey guys
[5:47] <UncleKiwi> i have created raid1 using couple of usb HDD's
[5:48] <UncleKiwi> using brtfs
[5:48] <UncleKiwi> and have rsync'd to the mirror
[5:48] <UncleKiwi> the /
[5:49] <UncleKiwi> but im not sure what to put in the /boot/cmd...txt file for eg /dev/sda1
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[5:49] <UncleKiwi> it will be cool to have it booting with raid1
[5:49] <UncleKiwi> :)
[5:52] <UncleKiwi> i think maybe its because i made the mirror partitionless
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[6:18] <UncleKiwi> anyone moved root to brtfs raid1 ?
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[6:29] <Valduare> UncleKiwi: I boot pi off iscsi
[6:29] <Valduare> iscsi is served on a disk array :)
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[6:30] <UncleKiwi> hi Valduare: yes I recall you tell me this
[6:30] <UncleKiwi> I have the mirror working sweet on the pi
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[6:30] <UncleKiwi> but im a little worried I wont be able to boot from it
[6:31] <UncleKiwi> i hope im wrong
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[6:31] <Valduare> find a general guide somewhere
[6:31] <UncleKiwi> i have
[6:31] <Valduare> people do it with flash drives all the time
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[6:31] <Valduare> freenas boots off dual flash drives
[6:31] <UncleKiwi> on the pi
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[6:31] <UncleKiwi> ?
[6:31] <Valduare> the pi is no different
[6:31] <Valduare> its a linux computer with usb ports etc
[6:32] <Valduare> make your search query more general
[6:32] <Valduare> dont tie it to raspberry pi
[6:32] <UncleKiwi> the boot loader is different
[6:32] <Valduare> aye
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[6:33] <Valduare> your going to have to boot off the sd card
[6:33] <UncleKiwi> yeah i know
[6:33] <Valduare> but from there you can mve your rootfs off to whatever else you setup
[6:33] <UncleKiwi> ok i'll see what i find
[6:33] <moparisthebest> some of my pis boot off nfs, to boot off iscsi I'm guessing you still need the kernel on an sd card?
[6:34] <moparisthebest> UncleKiwi, if it helps at all, all my non-rpi btrfs raid1 machines just specify one of the devices and the kernel just knows what to do
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[6:35] <UncleKiwi> moparisthebest: yes I have tired that in the /boot/cmd...txt
[6:35] <UncleKiwi> you are right it just needs to be /dev/sda1
[6:35] <UncleKiwi> for example
[6:35] <moparisthebest> so did it work?
[6:35] <UncleKiwi> no
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[6:36] <moparisthebest> Valduare, so for iscsi you still need kernel on the sdcard ?
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[6:36] <Valduare> berryboot has support for iscsi
[6:37] <Valduare> I’ve used berryboot on old 1 gig micro sd cards from our old phones
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[6:38] <moparisthebest> on all my openelec rpis I use 64mb sd cards I found for cheap from china, in read-only, booting from nfs
[6:38] <moparisthebest> the annoyance though is when it's upgrade time I have to write new kernels to the sd cards manually...
[6:38] <moparisthebest> I'll have to look at berryboot
[6:38] <Valduare> sheish 64 bm
[6:38] <Valduare> heh
[6:39] <Valduare> how many openelec pis do you have
[6:39] <moparisthebest> 6
[6:39] <moparisthebest> 2 of which double as child monitor cameras :)
[6:39] <Valduare> your children? :P
[6:39] <moparisthebest> these are all original pi B's hehe
[6:39] <moparisthebest> uh yea, that'd be creepy if not haha
[6:40] <Valduare> haha
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[6:41] <Valduare> im playing around with my pi0 right now
[6:41] <Berg> im gona set a web cam up on my dog
[6:41] <Valduare> getting it setup to communicate with an arduino uno over i2c
[6:42] <Berg> rabbit season wooohooo
[6:42] <zer0s> anyone know a good powerless usb hub for the pi zero?
[6:42] <Berg> ok later doodz and dolls
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[6:43] <Valduare> ya one sec zer0s
[6:43] <oq> zer0s: https://thepihut.com/collections/raspberry-pi-zero/products/zero4u-4-port-usb-hub-for-raspberry-pi-zero
[6:44] <zer0s> thanks oq !
[6:44] <zer0s> :)
[6:44] <Valduare> zer0s: i use this http://amzn.to/2aEPSqc
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[6:44] <oq> zer0s: or http://www.msldigital.com/collections/all-products/products/hub-zero if you don't like pogo pins and don't mind soldering
[6:44] <Valduare> can be powered if you want
[6:44] <zer0s> thanks Valduare
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[6:44] <Rickta59> so funny .. spending as much on a pi0 to get what a rpi2 or 3 already has
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[6:45] <zer0s> its the novelty factor i suppose
[6:45] <zer0s> but the smaller form factor is nice
[6:45] <oq> a pi0 with a usb hat is still way smaller than a pi3 though
[6:45] <zer0s> truth
[6:46] <zer0s> a hat or a bottom oq? :3
[6:46] <Valduare> zer0s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjbKOGeBupw here’s my video for pi zero adapters and such
[6:46] <Rickta59> i'm also amazed at how small it is especially if you just use it with a usb device cable
[6:46] <zer0s> they should be called pants
[6:46] <zer0s> tyty Valduare
[6:47] <moparisthebest> I'm working on 1080p wifi/ethernet ip cameras with an rpi3 and such
[6:47] <oq> I have a pi0 in a zero view case with a pi camera hooked up to a chromecast ethernet psu, super compact
[6:47] <moparisthebest> trying to benchmark and decide between ffmpeg, vlc, raspivid+netcat, webrtc etc etc etc :P
[6:47] <moparisthebest> unlimited options it seems
[6:47] <zer0s> i didn't get a case because the price for a zero case was the same as getting another zero
[6:47] <oq> this case, https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0176/3274/products/ZeroView_1024x1024.JPG?v=1467737472
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[6:48] <Valduare> zer0s: I really like c4labs zebra zero plus case for the zero
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[6:48] <moparisthebest> I bought 40 rpi B cases from mcm for $0.10 each, a dremel makes them fit everything else
[6:48] <oq> zer0s: not even one of the acrylic cases?
[6:48] <Valduare> built in breadboard for monkeying around with projects
[6:49] <zer0s> oq, they all cost around 5 bucks where i live
[6:49] <zer0s> or more
[6:49] <oq> ah
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[6:49] <zer0s> getting a protective case made no sense ...when it costs the same amount as the thing its supposed to protect
[6:50] <zer0s> i ended up just buying a backup zero instead
[6:50] <Rickta59> i'm kind of worried about shorting it out on my desk
[6:50] <Valduare> there are printable cases
[6:50] <Valduare> zer0s: cut it out glue it together and make a paper cardstock case
[6:50] <zer0s> lol
[6:50] <oq> Valduare: I don't think cheap 3d printing is a thing
[6:50] <Rickta59> i have it sitting a anti static bag
[6:50] <Valduare> not 3d printing
[6:50] <zer0s> regular paper 2d printing
[6:50] <Valduare> regular printer printing :)
[6:51] <Rickta59> japaning a box
[6:51] <zer0s> lulz
[6:51] <zer0s> origami zero case
[6:51] <Valduare> can print it out with all your favorint A-Team members on it and such
[6:51] <zer0s> wat
[6:51] <Rickta59> sorry japanning .. it is a thing
[6:51] <zer0s> that 80s reference though
[6:52] <Valduare> that term is used in woodworking finnishing
[6:52] <zer0s> A team members?
[6:52] <Valduare> blackening etc
[6:52] <Rickta59> yeah
[6:52] <Valduare> A-team was a tv show :P
[6:52] <zer0s> :3
[6:52] <zer0s> thats what i though
[6:52] <zer0s> *thought
[6:52] <oq> you could coat it in epoxy
[6:52] <zer0s> i was like..wat
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[6:53] <zer0s> Rickta59: as far as shorting out goes, i haven't had any issues
[6:53] <Rickta59> yeah i have a lot of crap on my bench
[6:53] <zer0s> moparisthebest: where did you buy so many for so cheap?
[6:54] <zer0s> oh mcm lol
[6:54] <zer0s> i just saw
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[6:54] <moparisthebest> zer0s, http://www.mcmelectronics.com/ yea
[6:54] <oq> mcm must be some local store, it doesn't come up on google
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[6:56] <moparisthebest> yea I don't see them anymore, this was probably almost a year ago and they were clearanced
[6:57] <moparisthebest> that's why I got 40 for $4, hopefully that'll be enough for me forever
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[6:57] <zer0s> yeah i tried to find them
[6:57] <zer0s> :/
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[6:59] <zer0s> oh well
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[6:59] <zer0s> i'm not crazy about my current setup for my zero tho
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[7:01] <oq> the foundation should sell a little base plate for $2 like how next thing co do with their c.h.i.p
[7:01] <oq> although the c.h.i.p bottom situation is considerably worse because its not flat
[7:03] <zer0s> i didn't know the c.h.i.p has a base plate
[7:03] <zer0s> :o
[7:04] <zer0s> its probably not worth producing at that price though
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[7:04] <moparisthebest> zer0s, oq mcm has those for $0.63 http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/DISTRIBUTED-BY-MCM-PI-SUPPORT-/83-14423
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[7:05] <oq> zer0s: this thing, https://bbs.nextthing.co/uploads/nextthing/original/1X/52c9edcd8db15bd86bc17ff186de000016026254.png
[7:06] <zer0s> moparisthebest: i need one for the zero though
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[7:07] <moparisthebest> yea not sure if you can cut it adequately for that or not
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[8:23] <ssfdre38> I wonder has anyone done an ircd on a pi
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[8:37] <BurtyB> ssfdre38, most likely
[8:38] <ssfdre38> Yea right now im doing that just cause im bored
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[8:42] <92AABDV81> the hell
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[8:49] <drozdziak1> I did one on a RPi 1 B. Slow as hell, real fun too.
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[8:56] <ssfdre38> well i have 2 pi 2 and a pi3 so right now im just going to do it on a single pi2 and if its slow then i might move the services over to my second pi2 to get the resources spread out
[8:57] <Sadale> I *guess* single pi should be enough.
[8:58] <ssfdre38> it should be but i just want to see what will happen
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[9:52] <ryan00793> Hey is anyone familiar with winIOT and 1602s?
[9:53] <up2late> no
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[9:54] <ryan00793> more specifically I'm trying to figure out how to use cg ram (eg put the char that refs it into a string to print on the device)
[9:54] <ryan00793> rip
[9:54] <binaryhermit> hmm, apparently OpenBSoD is coming to the RPi2+ https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=147059203101111&w=2
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[9:54] * binaryhermit isn't familiar with windows iot
[9:55] <binaryhermit> other than it seems to be somewhat... limited
[9:55] <binaryhermit> or something like that
[9:56] <ryan00793> I'll give you that it's less than ideal but I know c# and c++ is not as easy so I figured I would try what I knew but yea this isn't going well
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[10:12] <Drzacek> c++ not as easy?
[10:13] <Drzacek> it's c# that's overly complicated and illogical
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[10:17] <ryan00793> and people who learned on c#/java first are going think the opposite
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[10:21] <BurtyB> people who learned java first probably need help
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[10:28] <Drzacek> Ha!
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[10:29] <ahihi> eh. I knew C++ long before I learned C# and would never claim C# is more complicated
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[10:31] <Drzacek> ahihi, never really touch the thing. All I know, that the more I look at c-hash code, the more I don't get it
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[10:33] <ahihi> maybe that says more about you than the language ;P
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[10:34] <Drzacek> C++ is perfectly fine, don't understand why would we need c#
[10:35] <ahihi> I write both for a living and don't consider either one a very good language
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[10:36] <ryan00793> They both are decent but saying C++ is easier then C# is like saying C++ is easier than java which we all know isn't true...
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[10:37] * gordonDrogon likes BASIC..
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[10:38] <ryan00793> I think the second lang i learned was vb5/6
[10:38] <ahihi> "easy" just depends on your experience
[10:38] * zer0s likes java
[10:38] <zer0s> i hate python
[10:38] <zer0s> brackets are good to have
[10:39] <zer0s> python is too dependent on formatting
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[10:39] <Drzacek> zer0s, python is great
[10:39] <zer0s> blah
[10:39] <Drzacek> it learns people to keep their code clean
[10:39] <zer0s> you can do that without python
[10:39] <Drzacek> now I work with some old code made by many different people, they used those brackes very creatively
[10:40] <Drzacek> zer0s, you can
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[10:40] <Drzacek> problem is, most people don't
[10:41] <gordonDrogon> I guess I have to say that I wrote my own BASIC interpreter though. (In C)
[10:41] <ahihi> I don't think minor syntactic details like brackets vs whitespace have much of an impact on code quality
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[10:41] <gordonDrogon> ^ this.
[10:42] <ahihi> people who care about code quality will strive for it, others won't
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[10:42] <zer0s> my dislike of python isn't because of code quality
[10:42] <gordonDrogon> however I dislike python due to the forced nature of it (amongst other reasons).
[10:42] <zer0s> its because of syntactical differences
[10:42] <gordonDrogon> you can write fortran/perl/ada/corral 66/etc. in any language :)
[10:42] <Drzacek> well, it is really great to work with code that is thousands of lines long, and there is no single unifed convention
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[10:42] <gordonDrogon> just feed it through 'cb' :-)
[10:43] <Drzacek> what's cb
[10:43] <zer0s> Drzacek: that's what coding standards are for
[10:43] <gordonDrogon> C beautifier.
[10:43] * Drzacek googles that
[10:43] <zer0s> lol
[10:43] <ryan00793> the real answer is what zer0s said though
[10:43] <gordonDrogon> I've worked with companies who've changed coding standards more than once in a projects lifetime )-:
[10:44] <zer0s> thats the company's fault
[10:44] <zer0s> you can't dislike a language because of that
[10:44] <ryan00793> that does suck but if the projects lifespan is long enough it kinda makes sense (unfortunately)
[10:44] <Drzacek> no such thing here, at least wasn't there 20 years ago
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[10:48] <gordonDrogon> being self employed has its advantages :)
[10:48] <gordonDrogon> and todays self employment will involve teaching some people how to make sourdough bread rather than writing code...
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[10:49] <Armand> Mmmmm
[10:49] <Armand> Damn you, gordonDrogon
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> :-)
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[10:50] <gordonDrogon> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpewi_eXYAAvR8N.jpg:large <-- a couple of loaves from this monings bake..
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[10:51] <ryan00793> You really don't make it easy to like you
[10:51] <ryan00793> lol
[10:51] <Armand> haha
[10:51] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi-controlled-oven/ <--- Pi controlled oven though!
[10:51] <Drzacek> gordonDrogon, any chance you ship to germany?
[10:52] <zer0s> lol
[10:52] <gordonDrogon> postage anywhere is 10x the cost of the bread )-:
[10:52] <Armand> I hope I can get a decent enoough house when we move to the US... preferably with a big garden.
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[10:52] <zer0s> doesn't germany have excellent bread?
[10:52] <gordonDrogon> right. folks here. gotta go.
[10:52] <Drzacek> germany doesn't have anything excellent when it comes to food
[10:52] <Armand> ^ Incorrect
[10:52] <zer0s> the sausage is nice
[10:52] <Armand> That's what she said ?
[10:52] <zer0s> lol
[10:52] <Armand> ....someone had to
[10:53] <Armand> \o/
[10:53] <zer0s> yay
[10:53] <Drzacek> lol
[10:53] <zer0s> to be honest i prefer polish sausage, but you can buy that in germany
[10:53] <Drzacek> nah, I'll never admitt that here is something "tasty". "Just okay" maybe, but nothing excellent
[10:53] <zer0s> lol
[10:54] <zer0s> i recall the food being fairly good in austria
[10:54] <Drzacek> zer0s, yeah, it costs x times more than normally
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[10:55] <zer0s> no wait...the food in austria was rubbish
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[10:55] <zer0s> lol
[10:56] <zer0s> i'm thinking of the czech republic
[10:56] <Drzacek> ^true
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[10:56] <zer0s> sorry Drzacek
[10:56] <Triffid_Hunter> Drzacek: hamburgers are from germany.. hamburg to be exact :P
[10:56] <zer0s> :3
[10:56] <Drzacek> zer0s, for what?
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[10:57] <zer0s> for the lack of good food outside of traditional german food
[10:58] <Drzacek> I hope my girlfriend will bring me something good from poland next week
[10:59] <zer0s> lol
[10:59] <zer0s> don't you have good polish food in germany?
[10:59] <zer0s> its the next country over..
[10:59] <zer0s> i mean surely
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[11:01] <zer0s> btw i wanted to ask, how many of you guys are actually talking from a raspberry pi right now?
[11:02] <Drzacek> not everything
[11:02] <zer0s> err... typing
[11:02] <Drzacek> not me :(
[11:02] <zer0s> :/
[11:02] <zer0s> for shame Drzacek
[11:03] <Drzacek> didn't knew it was mandatory
[11:03] <zer0s> its not
[11:04] <ahihi> my pi is a (work-in-progress) musical instrument, not an irc machine!
[11:04] <zer0s> but i mean i figured with the channel being named as it was
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[11:04] <zer0s> ahihi: synthesizer?
[11:04] <ahihi> synth / fx unit
[11:04] <zer0s> cool
[11:05] <zer0s> ahihi: i've actually been trying my zero as my main computer today
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[11:05] <zer0s> its been interesting
[11:05] <Sadale> zer0s, must be slow :P
[11:05] <zer0s> nope
[11:05] <Sadale> hell lag. No internet access :(
[11:05] <zer0s> i'm running everything in cli
[11:05] <Sadale> ah. no wonder :)
[11:05] <Sadale> CLI proably works well.
[11:05] <zer0s> its amazing
[11:05] <Sadale> It's like a VPS :-)
[11:05] <zer0s> its super fast in cli
[11:06] <ahihi> now try compiling some code ;)
[11:06] <Sadale> I never understand people who use raspberry pi with GUI :P
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[11:06] <radioslave> morning
[11:06] <zer0s> Sadale: masochists
[11:06] <zer0s> radioslave: morning
[11:06] <Sadale> Those guys a either 1)Desktop computer user or 2) Noob :P
[11:06] <zer0s> lol
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[11:07] <Sadale> more likely to be the latter. It isn't very clever to use RPI as desktop :P
[11:07] <zer0s> i'm web browsing, listening to music, talking on irc all at the same time
[11:07] <zer0s> Sadale: its not a bad experience
[11:08] <zer0s> i learned a lot about cli programs
[11:08] <Sadale> zer0s, good for you. :)
[11:08] <Sadale> Well, RPI also help me to learn more on how to use CLI :)
[11:08] <ahihi> I'm not gonna control synth parameters by typing commands into a shell
[11:08] <radioslave> Question for the boffins:
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[11:09] <Sadale> It was easy for me, tho. That's because I was an linux desktop user who have used CLI for solving problems :)
[11:09] <zer0s> ahihi: yeah that does sound painfully boring
[11:09] <zer0s> and tedious
[11:09] <zer0s> Sadale: i'm a linux desktop user as well
[11:09] <radioslave> I'm running a Chromium-based Kiosk off of Raspian and my tab rotator isn't working as expected. Seems to be some disconnect between how Chromium recognizes 'Open set of new tabs on open' and just being re-opened when the Pi Boots.
[11:09] <Sadale> zer0s, cool!
[11:10] <Sadale> zer0s, linux desktop users everywhere in freenode
[11:10] <zer0s> Sadale: i figured, linux is a huge channel
[11:10] <zer0s> not to mention ubuntu and debian
[11:11] <Armand> Yeah, just be careful with the l33tist muppets in ##linux.
[11:11] <radioslave> I've got this batch of code here that seems like a workaround but I see at the bottom where it shows rotation intervals, thats set as a standard 5 seconds. Does anyone know how to write this so it is changeable between URLS? (I.e. One url for 30 seconds, the next for 15, the next for 20)
[11:11] <zer0s> radioslave: isn't chromium on rpi still experimental?
[11:11] <Sadale> zer0s, that is because freenode is a IRC network for free and opensource software development :)
[11:11] <Drzacek> Sadale, why not? It is nice, cheap replacement for desktop. Now if you would like to run some heavy gui like KDE or gnome (are those even available for rpi?) then it wouldn't work very pretty, but I know people that work on dualcore + 2gb ram machines now with win7/10 64bit, and that is extremely slow
[11:11] <radioslave> I'm not sure, but that shouldn't be a cop out for this functionality
[11:11] <Sadale> zer0s, and most people involved in FOSS are linux guys
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[11:12] <Sadale> Drzacek, well, the story has changed since RPI2 BTW.
[11:12] <zer0s> Sadale: i didn't know freenode speciallized in foss topics
[11:12] <Drzacek> tbh I never had gui system on my rpi yet
[11:13] <Sadale> Drzacek, With quadcore CPU and 1GB RAM, RPI is probably good enough for non-gaming, non-CPU intensive desktop systems.
[11:13] <Sadale> zer0s, free in freenode means foss, not freedom :)
[11:13] <zer0s> gotcha
[11:13] <Drzacek> Sadale, non gaming? I retropie all the time
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[11:14] <zer0s> Drzacek: i think he means more recent gaming
[11:14] <Sadale> non-heavy game I meant :P
[11:14] <zer0s> ones that are more graphically intensive
[11:14] <Sadale> It can certainly run games like LinCity or older games like quack :3
[11:14] <Drzacek> well, I doubt skyrim would run
[11:14] <Sadale> quake*
[11:14] <Sadale> It can even run NES emulator. That enables you to play many, many games :D
[11:15] <Sadale> and probably also gameboy and things
[11:15] <kerio> Sadale: 1gb of ram isn't even enough for my irc client :v
[11:15] <radioslave> Github is not liking this
[11:15] <zer0s> kerio: wat
[11:15] <Sadale> kerio, wait wtf
[11:15] <radioslave> here's a pic
[11:15] <radioslave> https://i.imgur.com/rkJUVkD.png
[11:15] <kerio> not this one
[11:15] <Sadale> kerio, what client is that
[11:15] <zer0s> kerio: you're running the wrong client
[11:15] <kerio> the one on my lappy uses webkit to render the channels
[11:15] <kerio> for fancy styles
[11:15] <Drzacek> Sadale, thats retropie
[11:16] <kerio> and then i exacerbate the problem by keeping insane scrollbacks
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[11:16] <Sadale> retropie? :O
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[11:16] <zer0s> kerio: so you know you're using a shitty client for the rpi?
[11:16] <kerio> like last 10k messages
[11:16] <zer0s> and yet you insist on using it?
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[11:16] <Sadale> Drzacek, meh. That's just another linux distro
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[11:17] <kerio> well i don't use it on the pi :3
[11:17] <zer0s> Sadale: retropie isn't a distro
[11:17] <kerio> i was questioning the validity of 1gb of ram being "enough for desktop use"
[11:17] <zer0s> i think it is
[11:17] <Sadale> huh? isn't it?
[11:17] <kerio> a modern-ish browser will choke
[11:17] <Sadale> kerio, right.
[11:17] <ahihi> putting everything in a browser engine is a great way to inflate your ram needs
[11:18] <kerio> and desktop use includes facebook i think
[11:18] <kerio> hmm, you can use the mobile site
[11:18] <kerio> it's still very light, surprisingly enough
[11:18] <zer0s> kerio: i think midori might be light enough
[11:19] <zer0s> if not there are lighter browsers out there
[11:19] <ahihi> elinks!
[11:19] <kerio> dillo :3
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[11:19] <zer0s> yep dillo
[11:19] <kerio> who needs css when you have tables
[11:19] <zer0s> ahihi: i use links
[11:20] <kerio> web like it's 1995
[11:20] <zer0s> lol
[11:20] <Armand> It's bad enough when I see some of the HTML only sites that we host. :P
[11:21] <kerio> does dillo support html5?
[11:21] <zer0s> prob not
[11:21] <zer0s> html5 still isn't widespread luckily
[11:21] <kerio> `<!doctype html><title>ayy lmao</title>` is a valid html5 document
[11:22] <zer0s> great title
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[11:25] <ahihi> zer0s: I haven't used it in a while myself, but some 12 years ago I had this Nokia smartphone that had such a terrible browser, I'd SSH to my ISP-provided Solaris shell and view pages in links instead
[11:25] <zer0s> lol
[11:25] <zer0s> talk about wonky
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[11:26] <zer0s> err convoluted i mean
[11:26] <zer0s> the inefficiency makes my head hurt
[11:26] <zer0s> its impressive still that your nokia was able to ssh
[11:26] <ahihi> well, it was better than waiting minutes for the built-in browser and having it crash at the end
[11:27] <zer0s> 12 years ago huh?
[11:27] <ahihi> yeah there is/was a fork of PuTTY for Symbian Series 60
[11:27] <zer0s> very cool
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[11:28] <Drzacek> Sadale, yeah, distro. I meant emulationstation, I installed it on normal raspbian. (retropie is raspbian based anyway)
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[11:30] <Korsi> Hello. I'm trying to use i2c on raspi2. I have enabled i2c using raspi-config and installed python-smbus and i2c-tools and rebooted. anyhow i i2cdetect takes forever and finds nothing. in dmesg it says i2c timeouts. How ever if i run another program written in c that uses i2c it works and after that i2cdetect works too. Soo any tips how to enable the bus..
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[11:31] <Korsi> and yeah i run these commands as root
[11:34] <Drzacek> Does the other c program do some initialization first?
[11:35] <Korsi> apparently.. but all tutorials/info about using i2c with python do not mention anything about initialization
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[11:36] <kerio> there's no initialization, generally
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[11:41] <kerio> can the rpi do 1wire?
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[11:42] <Korsi> hmm i dont know. i dont have devices to test with
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[11:43] <Korsi> well i have an oscilloscope but would it be worth to try?
[11:43] <kerio> i have an i2c device attached to my pi3
[11:43] <kerio> i can try i2cdetect before and after my c program, this afternoon
[11:46] <Korsi> i dunno if the problem is raspi2 specific. lots of people seem to have same problem
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[11:48] <zer0s> Korsi: i'm assuming you're using the latest image of raspbian?
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[11:55] <kerio> why does everyone talk in terms of "latest image"
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[11:57] <zer0s> well did you at least do an apt-update?
[11:58] <zer0s> *apt-get update
[11:58] <kerio> isn't it the same
[11:58] <zer0s> i always just wrote apt-get update
[11:59] <zer0s> i supposed they are the same though
[11:59] <zer0s> *suppose
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[12:06] <BurtyB> prob need a dist-upgrade and install the missing packages too
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[12:10] <Korsi> zer0s: i downloaded and installed the image two weeks ago also uptaded few days ago
[12:11] <Korsi> Linux raspberrypi 4.4.13-v7+ #894 SMP Mon Jun 13 13:13:27 BST 2016 armv7l GNU/Linux
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[12:13] <zer0s> huh
[12:13] <zer0s> well it was worth checking
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[12:36] <drtyhlpr> hi, I just added stretch release support and RPi3 (32bit) support to my Debian Linux bootstrapping script - feel free to test and give feedback, I hope you like it :) - https://github.com/drtyhlpr/rpi23-gen-image
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[12:48] <radioslave_> Anyone have any knowhow around Screenly?
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[13:21] <radioslave_> scratch that
[13:21] <radioslave_> or used Screenly OSE
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[13:27] <vrmxm> What's that?
[13:27] <vrmxm> Screencasting?
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[13:30] <radioslave_> Right so i've finally figured this out
[13:31] <radioslave_> But if anyone knows anything about Screenly OS Screen sizing that'd be huge
[13:31] <radioslave_> Long story short: I've been looking at building a meeting room display to show information outside the rooms in the office
[13:31] <radioslave_> namely calendar, weather, etc
[13:32] <radioslave_> I've settled on a chrome tab rotation solution, and managed to get one going myself pretty well but with my Raspian+Chromium solution it wasn't picking up the tabs to automatically launch when the pi was rebooted
[13:32] <radioslave_> I have a set of code that apparently does it but I dont know how to re-write it so that timings can be separate (i.e. not a standard 5 second rotate, but choose the rotation interval based on URL)
[13:32] <radioslave_> So I've put that micro SD on the backburner for now
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[13:32] <radioslave_> but it's an option if this one doesnt work out
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[13:32] <radioslave_> Fast forward to today and i've now loaded up Screenly OSE
[13:33] <radioslave_> https://www.screenlyapp.com/ose/
[13:33] <radioslave_> It does pretty much exactly what I want so far
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[13:33] <radioslave_> I was having some trouble getting it to show a calendar but it seems by simply shortening our shared ICS link using Bit.ly it now reads it correctly
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[13:33] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
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[13:34] <radioslave_> The main thing I'm after is how to change the detected screen size in Screenly OSE
[13:34] <radioslave_> what file/lines do I need to modify
[13:34] <radioslave_> should be straight forward
[13:34] <cousin_luigi> Not sure this is the exact place to ask, but if I wanted to use a raspi as tv tuner and then stream it over the LAN, which distro/app would you recommend?
[13:35] <radioslave_> TV Tuner or just a repo?
[13:35] <radioslave_> Like a media server
[13:35] <radioslave_> As in, do you want to physically hook up to your cable connection
[13:35] <radioslave_> or do you just want streaming sources
[13:35] <radioslave_> because there's quite a few options
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[14:07] <radioslave_> Can anyone shed any light on how to access the config file for this
[14:07] <radioslave_> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=12396&hilit=resolution
[14:07] <radioslave_> is it usually in the same place for all dispos?
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[14:10] <cousin_luigi> radioslave_: No, no streaming sources. I only want to stream what I receive with a USB tuner.
[14:15] <radioslave_> no experience with that, sorry. live streams and plex are all i've done
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[14:19] <kerio> cousin_luigi: this is for a LAN, right
[14:19] <kerio> you can just restream without reencoding
[14:19] <radioslave_> Does anyone know a web-based Calendar viewer/alternative that would accept an ICS or link straight through the O365 API?
[14:19] <radioslave_> Sunrise used to but then they were bought out
[14:20] <sloth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_w45Ad5xZI
[14:20] <radioslave_> One that doesn't look like shit though, seems to be hard
[14:22] <cousin_luigi> kerio: yes
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[14:22] <kerio> cousin_luigi: try with ffmpeg, just to see if it works
[14:22] <cousin_luigi> kerio: I'll need some simple way to change channels though.
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[14:23] <cousin_luigi> kerio: Like exporting a playlist...
[14:23] <cousin_luigi> kerio: I don't own a raspberry pi, yet
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[14:23] <kerio> should be the same
[14:23] <kerio> if your usb tuner works on linux
[14:23] <cousin_luigi> kerio: it does, more or less
[14:24] <cousin_luigi> kerio: but I don't know what programme to use
[14:24] <cousin_luigi> can you recommend one?
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[14:25] <kerio> ffmpeg plus something :D
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[14:28] <pksato> cousin_luigi: DVBStreamer, vlc, ffmpeg, etc
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[14:29] <cousin_luigi> pksato: I see. Thanks.
[14:29] <cousin_luigi> Since I won't reencode, what model of raspberry pi would you recommend?
[14:30] <kerio> the pi3 costs so little, do you really need to go for less?
[14:31] <DrJ> cousin_luigi, unless you want/need the zero... there is no reason to go for anything but the 3
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[14:32] <cousin_luigi> Does the zero have a network and usb port?
[14:32] <kerio> only usb
[14:32] <kerio> no network
[14:32] <DrJ> no network
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[14:32] <DrJ> you have to use a usb adapter if you want networking
[14:33] <kerio> with a powered usb hub
[14:33] <cousin_luigi> :|
[14:33] <kerio> and a usb a port/musb b plug adapter
[14:33] <kerio> so yeah
[14:33] <cousin_luigi> It doesn't seem very practical.
[14:33] <kerio> the pi3 has wifi too
[14:33] <ozzzy> and bluetooth
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[14:34] <DrJ> pi zero is more for projects like robots etc cousin_luigi
[14:34] <cousin_luigi> I see.
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[14:34] <kerio> there's something to be said for the low profile of the pi0
[14:36] <DrJ> pi3 though is the first model that I'm pretty satisified with in regard to performance
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[14:36] <radioslave_> also wifi
[14:37] <DrJ> pi2 wasn't bad, model before that was sluggish to the point where I often had latency on a ssh terminal just typing
[14:38] <DrJ> wifi is a plus too :)
[14:38] <DrJ> no more buying $10 dongles
[14:38] <DrJ> to get wifi
[14:38] <radioslave_> aye
[14:38] <radioslave_> anyone fancy taking a crack at this:
[14:38] <radioslave_> https://gist.github.com/radioslave/62c5472bc94a99b2bd2a389907779c64
[14:39] <radioslave_> Essentially trying to figure out how to edit this so I can have multiple timing options for the chosen URLs
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[14:39] <radioslave_> at the moment it seems like there's only a 5 second option
[14:39] <DrJ> might try the javascript channel on this network radioslave_
[14:39] <radioslave_> oh ho
[14:40] <DrJ> #javascript
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[14:46] <daey> DrJ: i never experienced any ssh latency on the 2 o0
[14:46] <DrJ> not the 2, the original
[14:47] <daey> well you wrote "pi2"
[14:47] <daey> but i cant speak for the 1st. never had it
[14:47] <DrJ> pi2 wasn't bad, model before that
[14:47] <DrJ> ...
[14:47] <daey> oh :D
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[14:47] <daey> my attention span seems to last for 3 words
[14:48] <DrJ> :)
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[14:49] <DrJ> it frustrated me to no end thoug on the original pi that I stopped using it
[14:49] <DrJ> to have the terminal be 5 characters behind what you are typing
[14:50] <daey> my outlook does it all the time :P
[14:50] <DrJ> :)
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[14:57] <radioslave_> daey that's actually a windows error
[14:57] <radioslave_> there was a fix for that i think
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[14:57] <radioslave_> where your cursor is well behind what you type
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[15:18] <Mokal> Anyone here with Raspberry?
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[15:19] <rain1> i just bought a box of raspberries
[15:19] <Chillum> most of us have one Mokal
[15:19] <Chillum> anyone here use IRC?
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[15:20] <rain1> hehe
[15:20] <rain1> i've tried it once or twice
[15:20] <Drzacek> Mokal, maybe. What's it to you?
[15:20] <Mokal> rain1, cool where did you bought yours? I have been trying to find a good place to buy but 60 euros seems abit steep, without any accessories.
[15:20] <rain1> Mokal, i meant the fruit - i don't own the computer!
[15:20] <rain1> are you looking online or local shops?
[15:21] <Mokal> online :)
[15:21] <Drzacek> Mokal, it depends where do you live. I get mine for 44 euros incl. shiping from thepihut
[15:21] <rain1> hm!
[15:21] <rain1> the pi 0 is really cheap
[15:21] <rain1> maybe you could try that
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[15:21] <rain1> should be closed to $5
[15:21] <Mokal> Drzacek, that sounds pretty good deal.
[15:21] <Chillum> rain1: with a limit of 1 per customer it is closer to $15
[15:22] <Chillum> they should just call it the $15 computer
[15:22] <Drzacek> Chillum, yeah, the shipping cost more that the device itself
[15:22] <Chillum> which would be fine if I could buy a 10 pack
[15:22] <Chillum> for the same shipping price
[15:22] <Drzacek> we all know that's not gonna happen :( not for a long time
[15:23] <Drzacek> How many of us are there, that would like to get pi0 in bulks?
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[15:23] <Chillum> not unless they decide to make them in China
[15:23] <vrmxm> Does anyone else have issues where trying to copy a lot of data around on USB causes IO errors, resulting in a read-only remount?
[15:23] <Chillum> but I guess they UK needs all the work it can get these days
[15:24] <Chillum> vrmxm: it could be due to your voltage level dropping
[15:24] <vrmxm> I don't know if it's the drive or the Pi or something else
[15:24] <Drzacek> I wonder if the shipping will get any more expensive once they will be outside europe
[15:24] <vrmxm> Ah, ok
[15:24] <Chillum> they can happen if the usb port can't provide enough current. Or if the cable wires are too thin
[15:24] <vrmxm> Hm
[15:24] <vrmxm> Well the USB drive is externally powered
[15:24] <Drzacek> vrmxm, try other drive, if it is hdd (spinning disks) check if you provide enough power
[15:24] <Chillum> oh, I was assuming micro SD card
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[15:25] <vrmxm> If I use rsync to copy and limit the bw (gone up to 4m so far) there's no problem
[15:25] <vrmxm> I don't have another drive to try, but yes it's a spinning disk in an enclosure, using the supplied power cable
[15:26] <Drzacek> Mokal, try with thepihut, they sometimes have the pi zero in stock (for ~5 minutes). Either way, one of the best way to get rpi in europe
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[15:26] <vrmxm> Of course copying 600GB of data at 4m is slow as dirt, so I was hoping if I could nail down the exact cause I could speed that up a bit
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[15:27] <Mokal> Drzacek, thanks gonna check it out.
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[15:37] <Lonefish> Drzacek: I managed to get 15 minutes of a driving time of 1h52 yesterday! (the return journey at night, going there was 2h30 >.>) I feel proud of myself!
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[15:38] <Drzacek> average speed? way over limit? :p
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[15:38] <Lonefish> shush
[15:38] <Lonefish> We don't talk about that
[15:38] <Lonefish> It was 2 am.. So you can fill in the blanks :D
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[15:44] <Bilby> morning all
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[15:45] <Lonefish> 'morning'
[15:46] <Bilby> (As applicable)
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[15:47] <Lonefish> It was meant as a combo of "Goodmorning" and "It's not really morning anymore over here"
[15:47] <Lonefish> In hindsight not really obvious tho
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[15:52] <Bilby> lol
[15:52] <Bilby> I accept your amiable greetings
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[16:30] <fab0tage> hello people. don't know if this is the right place to ask. wondering if someone has managed to get kali linux v2016 (rolling) running on raspberrypi2 with LUKS encryption. please pm if you know what i'm talking about. thanks in advance
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[16:38] <Lonefish> Thank God battery isn't in here now.. Or we're back to Kali install on a pi :p
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[16:38] <Lonefish> Sadly I have no idea what you're talking about fab0tage
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[16:39] <Encrypt> <Lonefish> Thank God battery isn't in here now.. Or we're back to Kali install on a pi :p // xD
[16:39] <Encrypt> Lonefish, He is still coming? x)
[16:40] <fab0tage> Lonefish, thanks anyway
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[16:40] <Lonefish> last I've seen was him asking about how to release his nick
[16:40] <Encrypt> Ok :D
[16:40] <Lonefish> something tells me he's going to return in another form.
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[16:40] <Lonefish> I was already getting chills when I saw Kali, no offence fab0tage :)
[16:41] <Lonefish> (short story, some troll wanted to install kali)
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[16:44] <fab0tage> yeah, I figured it out Lonefish , it's that the kali distro and the raspi seem to be bound together, perfect combination
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[16:52] <Sadale> I guess I've made something interesting with raspberry pi :P
[16:53] <Sadale> That's a Whack-a-mole game via plain and old telephone service. Built with Raspberry pi and SIM900A :D
[16:53] <Sadale> Here is the gameplay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PggRIl3w580 And I'll make a blogpost about the technical details later :3
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[17:02] <Eels> I mounted my 2TB external HDD to /mnt and added a rule to fstab, but on boot nothing appears in /mnt and according to File Manager, /media/pi/HDD is only as big as my 32GB SD card?
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[17:16] <Sadale> Eels, is the HDD detected?
[17:17] <Sadale> Eels, if you run "sudo fdisk -l" , does the 2TB HDD show up?
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[17:17] <Eels> It's not in the list of ejectable devices
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[17:17] <Sadale> Then the HDD doesn't work somehow.
[17:17] <Eels> It does show up in fdisk -l
[17:17] <Sadale> oh.
[17:17] <Sadale> does manually mounting it work?
[17:18] <jbeez> Looks for some ideas, figured this was the place to ask. Rpi3 as a media server, but portable, and controlled by an android app, what software would you guys recommend to run on an RPI to do this?
[17:18] <Sadale> Eels, does, says, mount /dev/sdb /mnt work?
[17:19] <daey> jbeez: how is the storage connected to the rpi3?
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[17:19] <Sadale> Eels, eh I meant mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
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[17:20] <jbeez> daey: either will use the internal SDCard or usb stick or usb hard drive, not decided yet
[17:20] <jbeez> daey: its going to be in a car actually, and will prob usb to a DAC, that does optical toslink into a DSP
[17:20] <Eels> I followed this tutorial to mount it http://www.modmypi.com/blog/how-to-mount-an-external-hard-drive-on-the-raspberry-pi-raspian
[17:21] <daey> jbeez: ok i thought you want to access a proper amount of data. i would have suggested simply running the service on the "storage providing solution"
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[17:21] <daey> car obviously changes the scenario
[17:21] <daey> so your media server is the client at the same time
[17:21] <Sadale> Eels, does Step 3 work?
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[17:23] <Eels> /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mnt busy
[17:23] <Eels> /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mnt
[17:24] <Sadale> Huh? Then doesn't the external HDD works?
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[17:24] <Sadale> Eels, you should now be able to access the external HDD by storing files in /mnt
[17:24] <Sadale> All files inside /mnt/ will be available on the external HDD
[17:25] <Eels> I see, thanks!
[17:25] <jbeez> media server will be playing media into the DSP, I just need to control it remotely with an android app. the only thing i found was possibly kodi+yatse
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[17:25] <Eels> So I should point my backups and whatnot to /mnt instead of /media?
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[17:25] <Sadale> Eels, yes. But-... :P
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[17:26] <Sadale> Eels, another method is to use another path instead of /mnt :P
[17:26] <Sadale> so your external HDD is mounted to /var/whatever or /media/whatever
[17:27] <Sadale> Eels, anyway, using /mnt/ will work. So if you aren't familiar with command line stuffs, stick with /mnt :)
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[17:27] <Eels> Any best practices linux file system-wise
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[17:30] <VictoriaGo> ssh: connect to host 192.168.3.113 port 22: Connection refused <—— what’s wrong?
[17:31] <Eels> Firewall/no ssh server running?
[17:32] <VictoriaGo> i don’t know :(
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[17:35] <Sadale> VictoriaGo, try ping 192.168.3.113
[17:35] <VictoriaGo> oh
[17:36] <VictoriaGo> good idea Sadale
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[17:41] <VictoriaGo> 64 bytes from 192.168.3.113: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.397 ms
[17:41] <VictoriaGo> Sadale:
[17:41] <VictoriaGo> what’s wrong? :(
[17:42] <Sadale> VictoriaGo, oh well, It probably means either firewall or wrong sshd config :(
[17:42] <Sadale> s/wrong/improper/
[17:42] <Sadale> VictoriaGo, have you mess with the firewall config of the raspberry pi?
[17:42] <VictoriaGo> Sadale: i install kali, then i upgrade it fully.
[17:42] <Sadale> or the sshd?
[17:42] <VictoriaGo> that is problem?
[17:43] <methuzla> VictoriaGo, what is at 192.168.3.113? (pi?)
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[17:43] <VictoriaGo> root
[17:43] <stiv> sshd needs to be running on host
[17:43] <VictoriaGo> ssh root@192.168.3.113
[17:43] <Sadale> VictoriaGo, well, you're on your own if you're using Kali. :p
[17:44] <Sadale> VictoriaGo, and you probably want to look for non-raspberry pi specific solution.
[17:44] <VictoriaGo> what is sshd?
[17:44] <Sadale> VictoriaGo, why did you install Kali in the first place?
[17:44] <VictoriaGo> Sadale: because i like kali
[17:45] <stiv> ssh server daemon. the thing you want to talk to via SSH protocol
[17:45] <Sadale> VictoriaGo, yes. sshd is like the server.
[17:45] <Sadale> the ssh command is the client.
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[17:46] <VictoriaGo> how can i know sshd is installed?
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[17:46] <Eels> Try sudo netstat -pluntw
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[17:46] <stiv> one test is being able to connect to it!
[17:46] <Sadale> VictoriaGo, If the command sshd runs, then you probably have it installed.
[17:46] <Eels> Port 22 should show sshd
[17:47] <Sadale> VictoriaGo, listen to Eels. He is right.
[17:47] <VictoriaGo> 22: Connection refused
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[17:48] <VictoriaGo> if i install ssh at raspberry, then i works automatically?
[17:49] <Eels> VictoriaGo, what do you get when you run sudo netstat -pluntw | grep sshd
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[17:50] <VictoriaGo> sshd is client program?
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[17:54] <VictoriaGo> No one is here?
[17:54] <VictoriaGo> sshd is client ssh program?
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[17:55] <Sadale> just wait. IRC is a slow paced place.
[17:56] <VictoriaGo> Sadale: i think that you know it :(
[17:56] <Sadale> If someone can answer you, someone will answer you sooner or later. Perhaps it takes minutes. Perhaps it takes hours.
[17:56] <Sadale> VictoriaGo, I think ssh is the client. sshd is the server.
[17:56] <Sadale> so you want sshd to be installed in raspberry pi.
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[17:56] <VictoriaGo> sshd is server
[17:57] <VictoriaGo> yes
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[17:58] <Eels> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
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[17:58] <VictoriaGo> Eels i can’t connect to raspberrypi now. lol
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[17:59] <VictoriaGo> if i can log in raspberrypi then it is problem?
[17:59] <IT_Sean> g'morning
[17:59] <Eels> Morning
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[18:00] <Eels> If you can't connect to your Raspberry Pi via SSH, you're going to need a HDMI screen and a USB mouse & keyboard
[18:01] <VictoriaGo> lol
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[18:01] <methuzla> or a console cable
[18:01] <oq> you'd think someone using kali... would know this stuff
[18:01] <VictoriaGo> if i have HDMI screen, then why i log in with ssh? lol Eels
[18:02] <Eels> VictoriaGo, then how are you communicating with your Raspberry Pi now
[18:02] <VictoriaGo> lol
[18:02] <VictoriaGo> i can’t
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[18:02] <VictoriaGo> Eels: :(
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[18:02] <oq> put away your script kiddy platform and just use debian
[18:03] <VictoriaGo> oq: but i will hide it to outside for some reason.
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[18:05] <grandpa> https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13879340_302818896739151_5426410162309636729_n.jpg?oh=7045b80e0351e5a8d0b10c47841a808c&oe=58143439
[18:05] <grandpa> ;s
[18:05] <oq> is it dead?
[18:05] <grandpa> lol no
[18:06] <grandpa> just wanting atttttention
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[18:09] <VictoriaGo> Eels: end?
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[18:10] <VictoriaGo> lol
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[18:10] <VictoriaGo> beginner guy help me?
[18:10] <VictoriaGo> lol
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[18:12] <Eels> So lemme get this straight: you're running Kali on a Raspberry Pi, but you can't access it because SSH isn't set up and you don't have a HDMI display?
[18:13] <VictoriaGo> yes Eels
[18:13] <VictoriaGo> then i must format sd card?
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[18:14] <Eels> You just need to get sshd on there somehow
[18:15] <VictoriaGo> i can’t becuae i can’t log in with ssh lol
[18:15] <VictoriaGo> Eels:
[18:15] <Sadale> Take out the SD card. modify /etc/rc.local so that it installs sshd when it boots.
[18:15] <rain1> why don't you get a hdmi display?
[18:15] <VictoriaGo> so i think that i must format sd card.
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[18:15] <Sadale> Then plug back the SD card. And that's it.
[18:15] <rain1> oh that sounds better
[18:16] <Sadale> HDMI is of course a better solution because you can see what's going on.
[18:16] <VictoriaGo> lol
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[18:16] <VictoriaGo> if i have money, will buy it.
[18:16] <Encrypt> >Kali on a Raspberry Pi
[18:16] <VictoriaGo> :(
[18:16] <Encrypt> >Doesn't know how to installk sshd
[18:16] <Encrypt> #RealHacker
[18:16] <Eels> If you at least have a keyboard, you could try http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/4444/enabling-ssh-on-rpi-without-screen-keystrokes-for-raspi-config
[18:17] <VictoriaGo> strange talking on #raspberrypi
[18:17] <VictoriaGo> :(
[18:17] <Sadale> VictoriaGo, BTW, you will want to check whether /etc/rc.local works on Kali. If I remember correctly, some distro doesn't have it.
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[18:18] <VictoriaGo> thanks but i have no sd card adapter now.
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[18:18] <VictoriaGo> :(
[18:18] <Sadale> ......
[18:18] <Sadale> How did you even install Kali then?
[18:18] <Sadale> you borrow the SD card adapter? :p
[18:19] <Sadale> you borrowed* the SD card adapter? :p
[18:19] <VictoriaGo> i installed it before 1 month. but i throw it to trash, because it do not work.
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[18:20] <Sadale> oh :(
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[18:20] <VictoriaGo> i think that it is impossible
[18:20] <VictoriaGo> for me now
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[18:21] <Sadale> well, guess what? There's no other solution. You got to get either HDMI cable+keyboard or microSD adapter
[18:22] <Sadale> most newer TV has HDMI port. Maybe you can connect your RPI to the TV.
[18:22] <Sadale> temporarily
[18:22] <VictoriaGo> lol i have no pc too
[18:22] <VictoriaGo> i have laptop only
[18:22] <Encrypt> xD
[18:22] <grandpa> or get a hdmi -> dvi afapter
[18:22] <grandpa> adapter
[18:22] <grandpa> oh
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[18:24] <VictoriaGo> i can get hdmi screen for free?
[18:24] <VictoriaGo> i think that raspberry pi is kid toy really.
[18:25] <SopaXorzTaker> VictoriaGo, why?
[18:25] <grandpa> i like my toy ;p
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[18:25] <SopaXorzTaker> And why do you want HDMI screen for free?
[18:25] <SopaXorzTaker> It costs money, y'know
[18:25] <stiv> pretty useful toy
[18:26] <oq> it's a computer
[18:26] <VictoriaGo> using raspberry pi is crazy. it waste time too much when i use it.
[18:26] <VictoriaGo> :(
[18:26] <oq> maybe you're just too dumb for it
[18:26] <stiv> or just inexperienced
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[18:26] <stiv> we all start dumb
[18:26] <SopaXorzTaker> VictoriaGo, where do you live? It's uncommon for people to ask for free stuff?
[18:26] <VictoriaGo> :(
[18:27] <SopaXorzTaker> VictoriaGo, after all, why did you even want a Pi? May we help you?
[18:27] <VictoriaGo> i live in Russia
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[18:27] <stiv> got a friend with a modern tv?
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[18:27] <VictoriaGo> using pi == mad dog
[18:28] <VictoriaGo> x(
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[18:28] <SopaXorzTaker> VictoriaGo, ah
[18:28] <stiv> easiest way to configure pi is to plug usb keyboard into pi; and pi into hdmi tv
[18:28] <stiv> anything more requires some experience and understanding
[18:29] <grandpa> hdmi cables are dirt cheap from china
[18:29] <Sadale> VictoriaGo, don't worry. As you proceed, you'll get more and more resources that you need. Like microSD adapter, ethernet cable, etc. etc. :)
[18:29] <Chillum> I tend to just add my wifi info to the config file and add a wifi dongle
[18:29] <BluesKaj-pi> had a dvi to hdmi connection to my tv for 6 yrs ...this is our media room, HTPC raspberry-pi3, pvr and an old vcr are connected as well. I might move the rpi to the den and connect it up to a spare monitor
[18:29] <Chillum> do the rest via SSH
[18:29] <Sadale> VictoriaGo, as a starter, I'd recommend you to stick with raspbian. It is more well-supported here :)
[18:30] <Sadale> With raspberry pi, a dongle isn't even needed :D
[18:30] <VictoriaGo> :( i don’t know
[18:30] <Sadale> With raspberry pi 3*, a dongle isn't even needed :D
[18:30] <Sadale> terrible mistake. How could I left out the "3'. /
[18:31] <BluesKaj-pi> raspbian is a nice OS, itś the default browser thatś too minimal IMO
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[18:32] <Sadale> well, that's because raspberry pi is too weak to run a more powerful browser :(
[18:32] <grandpa> BluesKaj-pi: i use midori
[18:33] <BluesKaj-pi> grandpa, does it do flash ?
[18:33] * stiv wonders: is doing flash a plus or a minus?
[18:34] <grandpa> i think adobe has to offer it for arm before you can use flash on the pi
[18:34] <radioslave_> Does anyone know how to force Chromium to load your pre-set pages even once crashed?
[18:34] <grandpa> but its a lot snappier than the default browser
[18:34] <radioslave_> Going through various sets of options around disabling the restore pop ups
[18:34] <BluesKaj-pi> rpi3 can handle FF just fine, but the flash plugins don work ...il we get universal hrml5 weŕe stuck with flash
[18:34] <radioslave_> But a lot of them end in incognito mode, which i dont think would work with the 'open this set of pages' options and an extension
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[18:35] <BluesKaj-pi> til we get html5 that is
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[18:35] <grandpa> midori has html5 support
[18:36] <grandpa> its a webkit browser like chrome
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[18:36] <radioslave_> Does Midori have extensions akin to chrome>
[18:36] <radioslave_> Not used it as extensively as chromium
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[18:36] <grandpa> yeah.. but not many
[18:36] <radioslave_> more specifically a tab rotation option
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[18:37] <grandpa> pretty sure it doenst have that :<
[18:37] <radioslave_> the struggle continues
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[18:38] <grandpa> ;p
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[18:41] <radioslave_> is there any order that cmd tags need to be in in order to be effective?
[18:41] <radioslave_> note: no idea what theyr'e called, and surely aren't called tags
[18:42] <radioslave_> essentially i've got my autostart file looking like this
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[18:42] <radioslave_> https://i.imgur.com/l0WK20M.png
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[18:43] <radioslave_> And i'm trying to force Chromium to always open the same set of tabs/page no matter if the power is pulled out, it's sudo rebooted or whatever
[18:43] <radioslave_> But is my having --kiosk there first interfering with --restore-last-session?
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[18:44] <radioslave_> i've tried a ton of variations, including: --disable-session-crashed-bubble, --disable-infobars
[18:44] <radioslave_> but nothing is working
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[18:46] <Encrypt> VictoriaGo left
[18:46] <Encrypt> Do we agree that he sounded just as battery? :P
[18:46] <mfa298> seems very likely
[18:46] <Encrypt> :D
[18:47] <Encrypt> Still talking about Kali
[18:47] <mfa298> account was registered 3 days ago and cloak was asked for 2 days ago (grep is such a useful tool)
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[18:48] <mfa298> there were a couple of lines said that sounded very similar as well.
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[18:49] <Encrypt> mfa298, And the numerous ":(" smileys
[18:51] <mfa298> just grepped the log for battery requesting a cloak and it was almost identical
[18:51] <mfa298> #freenode FREENODE16-07-02:07:00 <+battery> can I have a unaffiliated cloak? freenode sir
[18:51] <mfa298> #freenode FREENODE16-08-08:03:03 <+VictoriaGo> can I have a unaffiliated cloak? freenode sir
[18:52] <Encrypt> :D
[18:53] <BurtyB> heh
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[18:55] <mfa298> there's two other similar requests in those logs, for which the accounts no longer exist.
[18:55] * mfa298 is temtped to setup a suitable grep as an early warning system
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[18:57] <oq> isn't it against freenode rules to have two accounts with cloaks?
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[18:58] <mfa298> I think he unregistered battery first.
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[19:13] <chris_99> Hey, has anyone seen a baremetal program, for memory testing, for the Pi per chance?
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[19:15] <Encrypt> chris_99, Like memtest?
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[19:15] <chris_99> yeah
[19:15] <IT_Sean> Do you suspect a memory issue with your Pi?
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[19:16] <Encrypt> https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/2069/filesystem-corruption-on-the-sd-card eventually
[19:16] <chris_99> nope, im going to play with inducing bitflips IT_Sean
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[19:17] <chris_99> ah that's a usermode tester isn't it, i guess i could start with that
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[19:17] <chris_99> ( i was thinking of something like memtest, which runs without an OS )
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[19:36] <VictoriaGo> i will never use pi from now
[19:36] <VictoriaGo> x(
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[19:37] <rain1> why not?
[19:37] <rain1> just fix it
[19:37] <VictoriaGo> stop plz
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[19:38] <VictoriaGo> when i use raspberry pi, i waste time over 10 hour.
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[19:38] <chris_99> doing what?
[19:38] <rain1> fair enouh
[19:38] <VictoriaGo> finally i don’t use it.
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[19:38] <giddles> VictoriaGo, be happy, i needed 1 1/2 yrs to setup a suvelliance system on rpi
[19:38] <giddles> :)
[19:38] <giddles> 10hr
[19:38] <VictoriaGo> for logging in only chris_99
[19:38] <giddles> ahahahahaha
[19:39] <chris_99> you couldn't log in?
[19:39] <VictoriaGo> only log in i waste time over 10 hours per days.
[19:40] <VictoriaGo> i want to log in with portable router at outer side.
[19:40] <BurtyB> yes please stop wasting 10 hours of everyones time
[19:40] <TReK> lol.
[19:40] <VictoriaGo> x(
[19:40] <VictoriaGo> if i use pi again, then it is day of death of mine
[19:40] <BurtyB> great
[19:41] <VictoriaGo> and i will sell pi to anyone.
[19:41] <TReK> i will pay $1, deal?
[19:41] <VictoriaGo> but i think that No one buy it because it is pi 1
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[19:41] <VictoriaGo> only i waste time
[19:41] <VictoriaGo> x(
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[19:43] <VictoriaGo> how about my choice?
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[19:46] <Encrypt> Ah ah x)
[19:46] <Encrypt> He is an endless troll
[19:48] <BurtyB> yup
[19:48] <IT_Sean> Ladies & Gents, lets try not to feed the trolls. If you feed them, they just keeps coming back. -Ops
[19:49] <methuzla> but they're so cute
[19:49] <pwillard> and silly
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[19:49] <IT_Sean> methuzla, the channel rules clearly state that you should not engage trolls, as it only encourages them and makes more work for us.
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[19:50] <methuzla> <sarcasm>but they're so cute</sarcasm>
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[19:51] <grandpa> so much violence
[19:51] <grandpa> :)
[19:51] <F_e_z> ozzzy ?
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[19:53] <Chillum> If that is trolling it is not very good trolling
[19:53] <Chillum> I remember a time when trolls had talent
[19:54] * Chillum gets all nostalgic
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[19:54] <grandpa> nostalgia is going to kill everyone
[19:54] <Chillum> possibly as soon as January
[19:55] <ozzzy> howdy
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[19:55] <grandpa> aloha
[19:55] <F_e_z> hi, can you remember our discussion to the over current
[19:55] <pwillard> Well, maybe Rpi isn't for "everyone". But there is no logic coming here to complain about it being a bad fit. A lot of us would love to be able to spend 10 hours with our pi's.
[19:56] <F_e_z> as you proposed i sent it back :) , today the new one arrived
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[19:56] <F_e_z> tnx for your help again
[19:56] <ozzzy> np
[19:56] <VictoriaGo> can i don’t use pi?
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[20:00] <pwillard> :)
[20:01] <Mokal> Bully
[20:01] <pwillard> I've been playing DietPi lately. My current feeling is "interesting, but maybe not perfect yet"
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[20:04] <Mokal> pwillard, is there other 'OS' what does program installing for you?
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[20:05] <pwillard> DietPi is interesting in the sense that it starts life as a minimal raspbian installation that is essentially a network based install. This differs from the full blown official raspbian and raspbian lite which sort of give you "too little" or "too much".
[20:06] <pwillard> the Network part also makes sure that you get the latest stuff and that you get to install the major things you want and less of what you don't want
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[20:11] <up2late> https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00G60FJNG $34 with a coupon code if anyone is interested
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[20:28] <echelon> what's the point of a dvd mega board if the raspberry pi just connects over internet?
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[20:29] <echelon> dv mega*
[20:29] <echelon> for in-vehicle use?
[20:29] <echelon> that's the only thing i can think of
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[21:01] <Berg> its 5am let the games begin
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[21:04] <vrmxm> Can the cpupower daemon be the cause of drive IO errors? Changing CPU voltage draw or something?
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[21:24] <delinquentme> Hi all. Question: does anyone else have an issue where on 1) first powering on the raspberryPi ... clicking a shortcut to a folder on the file system
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[21:24] <delinquentme> that on first opening that file... the files inside it dont show up ?
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[21:24] <delinquentme> but on closing that file and re-double clicking the shortcut
[21:25] <delinquentme> the files are then shown.
[21:25] <Stavros_> Sounds like your pi is just being slow, as pis are
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[21:25] <delinquentme> easy mode : whats the name of the filesystem in raspberrypi
[21:25] <Stavros_> once you've opened it, the stuff is probably being cached
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[21:26] <delinquentme> Stavros_: is there a way to ensure that a given file is in cache on startup ?
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[21:26] <Stavros_> God knows, I'm just theorizing
[21:26] <delinquentme> caching preloading maybe? http://serverfault.com/questions/43383/caching-preloading-files-on-linux-into-ram
[21:26] <pwillard> You might have an almost compliant but kind of crappy SD card.
[21:26] <pwillard> I've had a few really marginal ones.
[21:27] <Stavros_> but if you want your pi to be fast (as fast as they get, anyway) stop using raspbian
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[21:27] <pwillard> Mainly Kingston's and Samsungs if I recall correctly
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[21:27] <Stavros_> there's a guy that actually benchmarked all the SD cards on a Pi
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[21:27] <Stavros_> Look for Pi Dramble website
[21:27] <Stavros_> Found that USB 2.0 SSD > most microSD cards
[21:28] <pwillard> I'm not saying all Kingstons or samsungs are bad... just the ones I picked
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[21:28] <BluesKaj-pi> Stavros_, so which OS are you using?
[21:28] <Stavros_> I'd recommend ArchLinuxARM, because it's ezmode
[21:28] <Stavros_> but I personally love Void Linux
[21:29] <pwillard> (and I cringe everytime someone says Arch) lol
[21:29] <Stavros_> Void Linux is the only reason I'm not still trying to get a BSD running on my Pi, basically. Which shows my philosophy in these matters :p
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[21:30] <BluesKaj-pi> sorry, not an arch fan, Iĺl stick to raspbian ...itś fast enough on the rpi 3
[21:30] <Stavros_> if it's fast enough for you, then sure
[21:31] <Stavros_> but if you're not an Arch fan AND you want something lightweight - I beg you to give Void a shot
[21:32] <ali1234> whats so good about void?
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[21:34] <ozzzy> yeah... raspbian is just simple
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[21:36] <Berg> i dont see any raspberry pi 3 in void?
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[21:39] <Stavros_> ali1234: Void is what a lot of people wanted Arch to be: lightweight and easy for users (rather than lightweight and easy for developers, hence Arch having systemd)
[21:39] <BluesKaj-pi> Berg, yeah, nothing regarding rpi 3 there, think I´ll pass on void
[21:39] <Stavros_> Berg: It's got Pi 2 support, and with a little fiddling you can get it running on Pi 3 too
[21:39] <Berg> :)
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[21:39] <ali1234> does it have package isolation?
[21:40] <ali1234> atomic updates?
[21:40] <Stavros_> I don't know what either of those things are :)
[21:40] <ali1234> cani cross compile it?
[21:41] <ali1234> does it have a stable release?
[21:41] <BluesKaj-pi> ali1234, http://www.voidlinux.eu/download/
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[21:42] <Stavros_> I've kinda put myself in a hole here: I wanna advocate it, but clearly I don't know enough to do so :p
[21:42] <Berg> I think ill stay with raspbian lite its easy for me
[21:42] <ali1234> does it have a version of Qt compiled with EGLFS support?
[21:42] <ali1234> does it even have the broadcom libraries packaged?
[21:42] <BluesKaj-pi> ali1234, google is your friend, itś not that difficult
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[21:43] <Berg> you come to the place that is happy with what its got and you need some special features to get a good responce
[21:43] <Stavros_> Lol
[21:44] <ali1234> according to google the answers are no, no, don't know, no, don't know and don't know
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[21:44] <Stavros_> I think you're claiming a bit much there Berg
[21:44] <Berg> thats im happy?
[21:44] <Berg> not a claim just a fact
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[21:44] <Stavros_> You didn't claim you were happy, you claimed this place - everyone here - was happy with Raspbian :P
[21:44] <BluesKaj-pi> ali1234 I gave you a url to load., try it
[21:44] <Berg> no
[21:45] <Berg> happy with what they got
[21:45] <ali1234> BluesKaj-pi: you gave the download page for void, it doesn't answer any of my questions
[21:45] <Berg> you need special features to get interest
[21:45] <Stavros_> And you're still wrong Berg :p
[21:45] <Berg> no im happy
[21:45] <Berg> :)
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[21:45] <Stavros_> God damn Imma slap you :p
[21:45] <Berg> im never wrong
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[21:47] <BluesKaj-pi> ali1234, well, sorry i dont hold hands
[21:47] <ali1234> oh jeez the entire source package tree is one giant git repository...
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[21:49] <Stavros_> ali1234: Seeing as you clearly know more than me, care to explain the significance of some of these things? :D
[21:49] <ali1234> package isolation means that one package cant mess with another package
[21:49] <ali1234> atomic updates means if you lose power during an update nothing bad happens... also you can trivially roll back bad updates
[21:49] <Berg> what makes you want to use void and what do you use your pi for Stavros_
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[21:50] <ali1234> cross compiling means i can build packages on my fast PC instead of waiting hours for the pi to do it
[21:50] <ali1234> Qt with EGLFS means you can run GUIs without X, and with accelerated graphics
[21:50] <ali1234> and you need the broadcom libraries for that to work
[21:51] <Stavros_> Berg: I prefer to min/max everything, and so Void/Arch fit that bill nicely. But Arch has systemd, which I do-not-like, and Void doesn't
[21:51] <Berg> AND you use your pi to do what?
[21:51] <ali1234> but what do you actually do with it?
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[21:52] <Stavros_> Browsing/chat/media playback
[21:52] <Berg> so a desktop unit?
[21:52] <Stavros_> basically it's a chromebook, without the google nastiness
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[21:53] <Stavros_> I wouldn't go so far as to say desktop, because it would struggle with a lot of basic desktop usage
[21:53] <Stavros_> but, for pretty much all use cases on SBCs, you don't want 'more' OS than you need.
[21:54] <Berg> ok im not all that clever with OS and such but my raspian has repo's that have all the stuff i use like the gpio libs etc and all the python stuff is in
[21:54] <ali1234> that's exactly why i want EGLFS instead of X
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[21:55] <Stavros_> ali1234: you've actually got my curiosity with EGLFS, wondering how a pi performs without X
[21:55] <ali1234> significantly faster
[21:55] <ali1234> but you can't run X
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[21:55] <Stavros_> and a LOT of stuff is reliant on X
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[21:56] <Stavros_> COuldn't use Synergy for a start, which is an instant killer for me
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[21:56] <ali1234> basically everything runs at 60 FPS with zero tearing
[21:56] <ali1234> but you can only run one program at a time
[21:56] <Stavros_> I'm gonna have to test that out, what OS would you recommend for it?
[21:56] <ali1234> and no windowing
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[21:57] <ali1234> i have only successfully made it work on raspbian and ubuntu
[21:57] <ali1234> it requires rebuilding Qt from source
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[21:57] <ali1234> and you can't do that on the pi because it doesn't have enough ram
[21:58] <ali1234> hence you need cross compiling
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[21:58] <ali1234> i did make a ppa for ubuntu though
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[21:59] <ali1234> https://launchpad.net/~a-j-buxton/+archive/ubuntu/qt5-raspi-eglfs
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[21:59] <ali1234> although it might be broken if the ci train ppa was updated under me
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[22:02] <ali1234> the ppa itself is the first step to building a snap package that runs in EGLFS mode
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[22:03] <ali1234> snap packages are confined and have atomic updates so it should reduce the risk of sd card corruption
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[22:24] <Rickta59> so i was looking at the linux cmdline args while i was switching to a real hd .. why does't raspbian set the elevator=noop as the default, wouldn't that be a better scheme for flash based file systems?
[22:25] <Rickta59> * this is the io scheduler stuff
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[23:21] <vrmxm> That's odd, since it's set in the git repo
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[23:22] <vrmxm> I'm curious about this EGLFS thing now
[23:22] <vrmxm> What browser are you using?
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[23:54] <Valduare> well this is fun heh
[23:54] <Valduare> got my pi zero controlling an arduino uno over i2c
[23:55] <rain1> neat!
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[23:56] <Valduare> just opened up a whole new world heh
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[23:56] <Valduare> lot more input/output options now
[23:56] <Valduare> could hook up a whole ton of arduino’s to a single pi heh
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