#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-08-20

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[2:48] <pwillard> why the hate?
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[2:59] <giddles> .~~. .~~.
[2:59] <giddles> '. \ ' ' / .'
[2:59] <giddles> .~ .~~~..~.
[2:59] <giddles> : .~.'~'.~. :
[2:59] <giddles> ~ ( ) ( ) ~
[2:59] <giddles> ( : '~'.~.'~' : )
[2:59] <giddles> ~ .~ ( ) ~. ~
[2:59] <giddles> ( : '~' : )
[2:59] <giddles> '~ .~~~. ~'
[3:00] <giddles> '~'
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[3:52] <reednj_> join #reddit
[3:52] * KindOne_ is now known as KindOne
[3:52] <reednj_> ops :p
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[4:51] <grummund> Hi, rpi2 powers up with both red & green led ON and no HDMI, is that correct behaviour for a board with no sd card?
[4:51] * mmazing (~mmazing@unaffiliated/mmazing) has joined #raspberrypi
[4:52] <grummund> does the same thing with sd card fitted so i'm wondering if it's the board or my image.
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[5:07] <[Sinner]> grummund: do you get a flash code from the LED during boot?
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[5:08] <[Sinner]> in the case with the sd in I mean.
[5:08] <grummund> in either caxe it is the same
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[5:09] <grummund> red+green permanent on and no hdmi signal
[5:09] <[Sinner]> interesting.
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[5:10] <giddles> power your hdmi?
[5:10] <giddles> :D
[5:11] <grummund> it's a custom image. i should try stock raspian
[5:11] <giddles> wait wait wait
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[5:12] <giddles> have short a look here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/config-txt.md
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[5:13] <giddles> config_hdmi_boost---- Configures the signal strength of the HDMI interface; the default value is 0 and the maximum is 7. Try 4 if you have interference issues with HDMI.
[5:13] * grummund just wondered what the expected behaviour with no sd card
[5:13] <giddles> ow no sd?
[5:14] * giddles should read next time the last lines
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[6:19] <Crom> hmmm
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[6:20] <swift110-phone> hey
[6:20] <Crom> Windows 10 pulled a good one today.... removed my printer on the machines not physically attached to it, and the machine it's actually on locks up trying to access it
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[6:20] <[Sinner]> is it an ancient printer?
[6:21] <[Sinner]> I don't think I've seen a printer without ethernet and wireless for a long time.
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[6:22] <[Sinner]> even the ridiculously cheap ones that end up screwing you over on toner refills usually have full networking these days.
[6:22] <[Sinner]> eth/wifi/bt
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[6:31] <irksmirk> hello
[6:31] <irksmirk> anyon here run docker on pi?
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[6:49] <newbism> Hi, anyone get libcec working? I try to cmake -DRPI_INCLUDE_DIR=/opt/vc/include -DRPI_LIB_DIR=/opt/vc/lib .. libcec but I get raspberrypi support: no :(
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[6:55] <toguko> Hello
[6:55] <toguko> One question, Can I boot and set up my raspberrypi for the first time using a bluetooth keyboard?
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[6:58] <irksmirk> what version pi?
[6:58] <toguko> 3 Model B
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[7:02] <irksmirk> so what you mean first time using
[7:02] <irksmirk> you need to ssh into it
[7:02] <irksmirk> easiest with ethernet cable
[7:02] <irksmirk> but now they have all kinds of odd ways
[7:03] <toguko> First time ever...first boot, because I don't have usb keyboard here with me
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[7:03] <irksmirk> ok do you have ethernet to your router?
[7:03] <toguko> yes
[7:04] <irksmirk> okay so plug the pi to ethernet
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[7:04] <irksmirk> then find its ip. and work with it on your current computer via ssh
[7:04] <irksmirk> lots of tutorials online on hwo to do that
[7:04] <toguko> Oh, nice...
[7:05] <toguko> thanks, I'll try
[7:05] <irksmirk> you can even run the desktop gui within yoru computer with vnc. but its slow
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[7:06] <irksmirk> or x-windows or wahtever its called is faster
[7:06] <toguko> But in the first boot will not have a vnc server setting up
[7:07] <irksmirk> right thats why you do everythign with ssh via ethernet first
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[7:23] <swift110-phone> hey
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[7:38] <NTSx01> Hi
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[7:40] <swift110-phone> how are you
[7:41] <guideX> I am swell
[7:41] <guideX> just about to start up my pi zero, and see what I can do
[7:41] <swift110-phone> good guidex
[7:41] <swift110-phone> cool
[7:41] <guideX> My pi zero -> http://skywirenews.com/rpz.jpg
[7:42] <guideX> I'm so proud of it so far, it's my test machine
[7:43] <irksmirk> you can run docker on it
[7:43] <guideX> hrm I hadn't considered that
[7:45] <\o`> it's all shiny!
[7:45] <swift110-phone> u see
[7:45] <guideX> yep :D I love the way it looks!! it's so small, it's funny when I tell people about my new computer, and they look around, right past the pi for it
[7:46] <swift110-phone> i got blender on my pi 3
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[7:46] <guideX> I was wondering.. why when I try to use a .deb in raspbian, it doesn't seem to do anything
[7:46] <guideX> seemingly
[7:46] <guideX> is that normal or something wrong perhaps?
[7:51] <swift110-phone> hmm
[7:52] <Ben64> how are you using a deb
[7:52] <guideX> I choose the 'open' from the browser
[7:52] <Berg> make sure you have the deb installing tool guideX
[7:53] <guideX> ah ok
[7:53] <Berg> its installed by default in mint mate but i have not seen it in raspbian
[7:53] <guideX> I guess I need something like gdebi
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[7:54] <Ben64> or just... dpkg -i
[7:54] <Ben64> or even better, use something from a repository
[7:54] <Berg> no idea i never paiod much attention to names but try apt-get install
[7:54] <Berg> yes what nben said
[7:55] <guideX> ok cool i'll try it
[7:55] <Berg> good lucks grasshopper
[7:55] <Berg> wax on wax off
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[7:59] <pcmerc> top
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[8:01] <sloth> anyone know a good minimal image
[8:01] <sloth> i looked at dietpi but
[8:01] <sloth> all the abstracted crap makes me iffy
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[8:07] <Berg> try raspbian lite
[8:07] <Berg> ???
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[8:08] <Berg> a sloth is a slow moving low metabolic rate animal
[8:08] <sloth> a berg is a type of ice
[8:08] <Berg> no its a mountain
[8:08] <sloth> i was looking at raspbian server
[8:09] <Berg> well in the downloads they have the raspbian lite and normal raspbian
[8:09] <irksmirk> this just came out
[8:09] <irksmirk> https://github.com/hypriot/image-builder-rpi/releases
[8:09] <bberg`> side note - who here has a 3dprinter?
[8:10] <Berg> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
[8:10] <irksmirk> Minimized memory usage, 41 MB only (new install, right after boot, w/ SSH session) Minimized disk usage, 600 MB only (new install)
[8:10] <Berg> berg version 2 i wish
[8:11] <Berg> do you have to put all the network stuff in irksmirk
[8:11] <Berg> rpi3 is bad even in radspbian
[8:11] <irksmirk> i dont understand your qustion
[8:12] <Berg> does it have all the networking m,anagement libs
[8:12] <Berg> tools
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[8:12] <bberg`> lame
[8:13] <bberg`> berg v1
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[8:13] <Berg> you got one bberg` ?
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[8:13] <irksmirk> i dont know. im sure it has networking if its docker
[8:13] <Berg> if you not using it send it me
[8:14] <irksmirk> docker is cool in that you can screw around installing wahtever you want on the pi and if you screw up you just delte the image
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[8:14] <Berg> i actualy went to the 3d p[rinter shop today the cheapest was 499 bucks AU
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[8:16] <bberg`> About to buy one.. trying to decide which
[8:17] <Berg> what ya looking at?
[8:18] <bberg`> these so far
[8:18] <bberg`> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D8M32LU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015IHMOSK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2UHE58S2974CT https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XCMBZQG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AVDEVPXNKYHRR https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I8NM6JO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A8RK4QCP0IFCY
[8:18] <bberg`> nice range of cost.
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[8:21] <Berg> you get the slicer software with it?
[8:21] <bberg`> depends on the printer
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[8:22] <Berg> interesting
[8:22] <irksmirk> how would i take a picture of a myself and 3d print my head?
[8:23] <NedScott> I just stick my head in a bucket of plaster, but emergency room got tired of getting me unstuck
[8:24] <irksmirk> instructions unclear, dick stuck...
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[8:24] <NedScott> haha
[8:24] <Berg> umm
[8:24] <Berg> right
[8:24] <irksmirk> dont they do this at kinkos now days?
[8:24] <swift110-phone> lol
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[8:26] <guideX> can you put winnt4 on the raspberry pi zero?
[8:26] <guideX> it does support arm cpu's...
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[8:27] <guideX> perhaps silly question :)
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[8:27] <swift110-phone> lol
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[8:28] <guideX> think about it for a sec, the specs are spot on... 512 mb ram, 8gb hdd, single core... this thing is winnt4 ready
[8:28] <guideX> according to this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT it does support arm cpu's
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[8:34] <Berg> try win3.2?
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[8:34] <Berg> la la la
[8:34] <Berg> hay im joke joking dont shot me\
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[9:04] <Pratham> Hi, anyone around ?.?
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[9:06] <Pratham> I got a Turbo Charger from Motorola (came with Moto X Style phone) ... It displays standard output as 5v - 2.85A ... turbo mode 1 output as 9v - 2.85A ... and turbo mode 2 output as 12v - 2.15A ... Can I use it will the Raspberry PI 3?
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[9:33] <Berg> if your sure its limited to 5v 2.8amp
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[9:33] <Berg> it will only draw the amps it needs
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[10:05] * \o` wonders if he should make a gpl fork of wiringpi
[10:07] <legendre> wth is wirkingpi?
[10:07] <legendre> pardon y 'k'
[10:07] <\o`> a library for working with the gpio
[10:07] <legendre> arrgh, RENTED KB
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[10:08] <legendre> such a thing doesn't exist?
[10:08] <legendre> oh.. a GPLd fork doesn't. What's teh current lic?
[10:08] <\o`> lgpl
[10:08] <\o`> bsd would be better but I dunno
[10:09] <legendre> I guess the nuances are lost on me.
[10:09] <Pratham> @Bery thanks. I can use the same charger with other devices which dont support turbo charger. So I think the turbo charger thing only activates on compatible devices.
[10:09] <legendre> bsd is pretty damn permissive, isn't it?
[10:09] <\o`> permissive == free(dom)
[10:09] <legendre> yes, that's what I mean by permissive
[10:10] <legendre> free as in dom, or beer or willy to some extent or another.
[10:10] <\o`> (l)gpl is kind of freedom with strings attached
[10:10] <Pratham> I powered it on but I only see a red light.
[10:10] <Pratham> I used a 64 GB SD card, formated it with the SDFormatter tool (Size Adjustment ON), extracted NOOBS on it...
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[10:12] <legendre> Wtf. I know this is OT, but do you know that some crazy assholes think the LHC is some kind of dimensional / star-gate machine, that is allowing all kinds of .. entities .. to "come acorss"? And this is why there are so many accounts of "possession" in the news?
[10:12] <\o`> the lgpl makes static linking tedious and unclear
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[10:13] <legendre> \o` again, the minutae are beyond me. I don't deal with soft lics much, other than to use / abuse them
[10:15] <\o`> yeah
[10:15] <\o`> I just find lgpl very confusing
[10:15] <\o`> it's not clear
[10:16] <\o`> I mean: "(1) If you statically link against an LGPL'd library, you must also provide your application in an object (not necessarily source) format, so that a user has the opportunity to modify the library and relink the application."
[10:16] <\o`> Why?
[10:16] <\o`> It makes no sense to me :(
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[10:17] <Pratham> Does NOOBS require the partition to be FAT and not exFAT?
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[10:20] <\o`> Or is source code also considered object code (which is not right) in the context of the lgpl? No wonder people avoid LGPL... it's incomprehensible
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[10:21] <\o`> maybe gordonDrogon will someday change the license
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[10:23] <\o`> anyway, right now the best option for me seems to be for me to change the license from LGPL to GPL so I can keep that part separate from my main BSD licensed open source code as well as statically link
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[10:24] <Berg> i think any licience that does not allow you to make a profit from others work is good
[10:24] <\o`> which is kind of crazy imo
[10:24] <\o`> Berg, I don't want to make a profit
[10:24] <\o`> I just want to statically link with no dramas lol
[10:24] <Berg> no you might not but others will
[10:24] <\o`> yeah *shrug*
[10:24] <\o`> that's what freedom means
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[10:25] <Berg> i saw a guy come to warzone and ask for every detail of the game then he wanted to make a m,agerzine and sell the dsetails for money
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[10:26] <\o`> Berg, the problem is... that the LGPL is, in my case, stopping me from doing something that is not for profit, is open source as well and...
[10:26] <Berg> i got very anoyed as he was using images from ingame for one i made the models he wanted to sell images of and i refgused to allo9w that
[10:26] <\o`> Berg, images can fall under a different (C) (and that's usually the case)
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[10:27] <Berg> still the images would not excist if there was no models
[10:27] <\o`> GPL/LGPL are for code, not images, anyway
[10:27] <Berg> not in the ubuntu they wanted source code for images
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[10:28] <\o`> err... I didn't realise they had "source code
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[10:28] <Berg> still i get very agressive with those that want to make coins from others work
[10:28] <Berg> they asked for it they dint get it
[10:28] <\o`> Berg, fair enough. But you can make money from LGPL stuff and from GPL stuff. It's a different thing to what I want to do
[10:29] <Berg> images have pallets and layers etc the content has a source
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[10:29] <Berg> I know you can make money but i say its wrong
[10:29] <\o`> LGPL and GPL explicitly allow charging (making a profit) from the source code
[10:29] <\o`> yeah, but I don't want to debate that :)
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[10:29] <Berg> anyway it dont matter what licence you use they will patent your code and steal it
[10:29] <\o`> because it's not what's throwing up roadblocks for me hehe
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[10:30] <Berg> if yopur using gordons code you have to keep his licence the same?
[10:30] <\o`> Berg, well almost. I can change it to GPL instead of LGPL
[10:30] <Berg> if thats your road bl;ock?
[10:31] <\o`> and it makes the static linking easier
[10:31] <Berg> the rules say you have to allow the users your code
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[10:31] <\o`> yeah, they would
[10:31] <\o`> under the GPL
[10:31] <Berg> that is gpl
[10:31] <Berg> yes
[10:31] <Berg> whats lgpl?
[10:31] <\o`> weird
[10:31] <Berg> you have to hide3 the libs?
[10:32] <Berg> :)
[10:32] <Berg> i use gpl
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[10:32] <Berg> i think its actualy gpl2
[10:32] <\o`> they need to be dynamically linked otherwise there are all kinds of strange conditions
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[10:32] <\o`> like: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#LGPLStaticVsDynamic
[10:33] <Berg> that is a bit too complex for me
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[10:33] <\o`> me too
[10:34] <Berg> linking to it is all you need static dynamic humbug
[10:34] <Berg> import lpgl
[10:34] <\o`> and the easiest solution is, for me, to change the license of wiringPi from LGPL to GPL, provide the GPL version's source code and link
[10:34] <Berg> doner or include
[10:34] <Berg> hmm
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[10:35] <\o`> the very fact that I am allowed to change his license from LGPL to GPL in the first place is absurd
[10:36] <Berg> but wiring is a c lib and wiringpi is a converter to python
[10:36] <Berg> ok now im baffled
[10:36] <Berg> stop stop
[10:36] <\o`> ah... no
[10:36] <\o`> wiringPi is a c library
[10:36] <Berg> ooo
[10:36] <Berg> whats the python converter then?
[10:37] <Berg> pigpio?
[10:37] <\o`> just python bindings for the wiringPi library I assume
[10:37] <Berg> or .gpio
[10:37] <\o`> bindings/wrappers
[10:37] <Berg> i thought bit was just called wiring
[10:37] <Berg> silly me
[10:37] <shauno> I don't think the lgpl is so complicated? the basic aim is that they can link against a newer version of the library if they want to
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[10:38] <shauno> so if you link as a shared library, no further effort required. if you link statically, you have to provide an unlinked object so they can link it against a different version if they want to
[10:38] <\o`> yeah
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[10:39] <\o`> but why not source code instead of an unlinked object?
[10:39] <\o`> I mean if someone is capable of linking something surely they can compile from source
[10:40] <Berg> found thje lib name
[10:40] <Berg> import RPi.GPIO as GPIO
[10:40] <shauno> because the unlinked object is of your binary, not the lgpl lib
[10:40] <\o`> but I don't have a library. I have an application :)
[10:41] <Berg> your using a lib?
[10:41] <\o`> oh binary
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[10:41] <shauno> I mean, say I write an application named 'foo'. and foo links against lgpl
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[10:41] <\o`> shauno and that's what doesn't make sense. What are people going to do with this unlinked binary object?
[10:41] <\o`> they might link it with a new version of the lib, right?
[10:41] <shauno> er, against an lgpl lib. I don't have to provide the source to foo. I just have to provide a method to link against a different version of the lgpl lib
[10:42] <\o`> but if I provide the source for foo, why do I have to provide a binary object (unlinked) as well?
[10:42] <shauno> so if it's statically linked .. I have to provide the unlinked version of foo, so they can link it to the same lgpl lib themselves
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[10:43] <legendre> \o` - here's the thing to remember. People who are smart, much smarter than you or I, came up with these lic. terms.
[10:43] <\o`> obviously, because I don't understand that bit of the license at all :D
[10:43] <legendre> so there must, there JUST MUST, be a reason for all of it.
[10:43] <Berg> the source should have the link method and a way to goto a newrer version of lgpl?
[10:43] <shauno> I don't think you need to in that case. as long as there's a sane method to get from A to B. the whole statically/shared thing is for cases where you don't want to provide 'foo's source
[10:43] <\o`> shauno, yeah and that's what's not clear :(
[10:44] <Berg> so ignore oit \
[10:44] <\o`> shauno, my application is open source
[10:44] <legendre> \o` - yes, that's the first sign that They are a lot smarter than We.
[10:44] <\o`> I don't want to dynamically link because I've modified wiringPi
[10:44] * legendre is just talking shit, as ever.
[10:45] <Berg> so a newer version is not compatable
[10:45] <\o`> source for my program (foo) and my modified wiringPi (bar) are both available
[10:45] <shauno> \o, if you look through https://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html ... specifically 4d
[10:45] <Berg> i see your boggle \o`
[10:45] <legendre> my only real advice is that it's easier to obtain forgivness than permission, so just do as you will, and try not to trammel anything too much. Shrug.
[10:46] <shauno> it's either/or. "one of the following". either provide the "minimum corresponding source", or ... the whole statically linked mess
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[10:46] <\o`> let me make sure that nobody misunderstands... I'm trying to do the Right Thing(TM)
[10:47] <\o`> not steal stuff or misrepresent stuff
[10:47] <Berg> when gordonDrogon finds out it will be a rage flame war of biblical events alowing for cats and dogs to live together and ooo the humanity
[10:47] <legendre> \o`: I think that's abundantly c;ear
[10:47] * \o` reads 4d from shauno's link
[10:47] <shauno> so if you're providing your source, you satisfy the first condition, so you can ignore the second - as long as you satisfy one of the two
[10:47] <legendre> *clear even
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[10:47] <Berg> i just said ignore it
[10:48] <Berg> the new source for wiringpi is there?
[10:48] <legendre> So what's the core issue, here? The GPIO lib for rasp isn't reasonably licensed?
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[10:49] <shauno> "corresponding Application Code in a form suitable for, and under terms that permit, the user to recombine or relink the Application". if your 'corresponding application' is under the gpl, then that is a suitable form to recombine/relink
[10:49] <Berg> no its just confusing
[10:49] <legendre> after all the time that raspi has been on the market? This is still an issue?
[10:49] <legendre> kk
[10:49] <Berg> \o`: said he had changed the wiringpi
[10:49] <Berg> hence the discussion
[10:49] <legendre> ah
[10:50] <shauno> legendre: I don't think it's unsuitable. I think the core issue is "the more you think about licences, the more your head hurts" :)
[10:50] <legendre> well, and back to the point.. insufficiently permissible lic terms.
[10:50] <Berg> yes
[10:50] <Berg> i agree with that
[10:50] <legendre> shauno: well for fecking sure
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[10:52] <Berg> send me all your old laptop batteries please
[10:52] <\o`> yes, that's right. I can't allow people to "relink" because it wouldn't work
[10:52] <\o`> they can recompile both my app and the modified lib though (both in the same repo)
[10:53] <Berg> and i am sure you proving the source is ample to abide by licence
[10:53] <\o`> well, I hope that's the case :(
[10:53] <Berg> providing
[10:53] <Berg> tell gordonDrogon you did it and buy him cake job done
[10:54] <Berg> :)
[10:54] <\o`> ok, section 4d.a does seem to mean it's ok (from my understanding)
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[10:54] <Berg> mmmMMMmm cake
[10:54] <\o`> I think he makes better cakes than I can lol
[10:54] <shauno> I think it's easiest to figure out what they're actually trying to do, and obey the spirit. so the goal is that if I receive a copy of your application, I can exercise my gplish rights to modify the wiringpi portion
[10:54] <Berg> well get him to get the cake
[10:54] <\o`> lol :)
[10:55] <shauno> being able to relink my own copy of wiringpi is one way to do that. making my changes inside your sourcetree and hitting make is another.
[10:55] <shauno> imho no-one cares about the actual legalese if you're satisfying the actual goal in good faith
[10:56] <Berg> what licence are you putting on your stuff \o`
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[10:57] <\o`> Berg, BSD atm
[10:57] <\o`> well, for this
[10:57] <\o`> unless I need to change it :/
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[10:58] <\o`> I mean if GPL is required I'll make it GPL
[10:58] <Berg> now see thats the issue again
[10:58] <\o`> maybe
[10:58] <\o`> why would it still be an issue though?
[10:59] <Berg> well for now you dont kn ow whats the best lic3ence
[10:59] <Berg> so i called it a issue
[10:59] <\o`> well for me, the BSD license
[10:59] <\o`> for *MY* work
[10:59] <Berg> but your code is not outside the pgpl
[10:59] <Berg> lpgl
[10:59] <\o`> well it is because the changes I make to wiringPi are still lgpl
[11:00] <\o`> it's in a whole different source tree (subdirectory)
[11:00] <Berg> so do you need 2 licences?
[11:00] <Berg> hehehe
[11:00] <\o`> well I consider them 2 different projects. a) mine; and b) a modified wiringPi that I can statically link
[11:01] <\o`> so both would fall under their own license
[11:01] <Berg> sorry like they said the mopre you think about licences the more your head hurts
[11:01] <\o`> yeah :/
[11:01] <Berg> leave i8t till you chat with gordonDrogon
[11:01] <\o`> maybe I'll just use LGPL to make things easier :/ although that seems a bit sillier
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[11:02] <\o`> s/siller/silly
[11:02] <Berg> sillier
[11:02] <\o`> yes
[11:02] <\o`> hah
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[11:03] <sbef> Hello guys I have a question about PC fans
[11:03] <Berg> its nice to strive for the correct intention
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[11:04] <sbef> I'd like to attache a 12V PC fan's motor to a raspberry pi
[11:04] <sbef> To get the 12 V there's no problem, my question is, there's anyway to control the motor speed through the yellow cable?
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[11:05] <Berg> you want your pi to control the speed?
[11:05] <Pratham> isn't the 3rd cable just to report the RPM of the PC fan?
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[11:06] <Berg> whats that smell?
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[11:07] <mfa298> \o`: not read all the scrollback, but are you actually staticly linking, usually C is dynamicly linked. Also I'd have thought of lgpl source is fine as long as you can compile objects. I'm assuming what they mean is that you have to provide a way to re-build the app which means at least object files
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[11:08] <Pratham> smell? someone burned his/her pi?
[11:11] <Berg> well you can use a 555 chip ne555d to govern the speed of your fan
[11:11] <Berg> why do you need a speed govener sbef
[11:12] <Encrypt> A Raspberry Pi (= computer) to control a fan (<.<)
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[11:12] <Encrypt> A microcontroller would be just fine (>.>)
[11:13] <Encrypt> <Pratham> isn't the 3rd cable just to report the RPM of the PC fan? // Yeah it's the feedback
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[11:17] <Berg> 12v
[11:21] <Pratham> Hmmm... just found out 64 GB SD Cards need to be formatted as FAT32 for NOOBS to work..
[11:21] <Pratham> Hopefully it works now
[11:22] <Pratham> *fingers crossed*
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[14:33] <DWKnight> got bored, made two openwrt cards
[14:33] <DWKnight> one that has a pi2 as a wireless access point
[14:33] <DWKnight> the other, pi3
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[14:37] <brianx> pis make a lousy access point. usb is a bottleneck for anything past 802.11g.
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[14:40] <DWKnight> more to say that I did it than anything else
[14:41] <brianx> that's mightily bored.
[14:41] <DWKnight> indeed
[14:42] <DWKnight> a more practical thing is using a proliant DL380 G7 as a multi-wan router
[14:44] <genmort> is router overheating a thing? I need to restart my router sometimes, as all the devices disconnect except rpi
[14:44] <genmort> i think it has something to do with dhcp, as rpi is the only one with static ip
[14:46] <DWKnight> it definitely can be
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[15:04] <brianx> unless your router is in a place over 90F or is over clocked or is really dirty or has a failed fan/blocked vents, overheating isn't all that likely.
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[15:12] <pi_> anyone around?
[15:13] <oq> no
[15:13] <pi_> im trying to setup backports jessie, I have already done the key etc but when I try and install something, it tells me it can't locate the package?
[15:13] <pi_> E: Unable to locate package uget
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[15:13] <pi_> my source list:deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main non-free contrib
[15:13] <pi_> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main non-free contrib
[15:13] <ShorTie> backports jessie from ??
[15:14] <pi_> ^ :P
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[15:14] <ShorTie> your base is raspbian or debian ??
[15:14] <pi_> raspbian, obviously.
[15:15] <ShorTie> debian stuff doesn't work on raspbian
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[15:15] <pi_> ShorTie, then what is the raspbian jessie backports?
[15:15] <ShorTie> raspbian is armv6, not supported by debian
[15:15] <pi_> some apps like hexchat install fine
[15:15] <ShorTie> compile your own i do believe
[15:16] <pi_> so there is no raspbian backports?
[15:16] <ShorTie> not that i know of
[15:16] <ShorTie> plugwash only has so much time
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[15:32] <nurulwai> I have a pi camera and doing some simple image processing on the pi itself. I'm looking to minimise the time between something happening the camera can see and when that frame becomes available to me. Capturing at 60fps, 320x240 as RGB. Currently about 60ms between something happening and me getting that frame. Any suggestions, any fancy processing I can disable?
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[15:40] <Chillum> even with really good digital video setup that does no processing at all there is going to me be some delay, this is why FPV pilots still use analog video
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[15:40] <Chillum> 60ms is a bit high, it might be reducible
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[15:41] <SpeedEvil> Chillum: digital video does not inherently mean delay. Analog video also averages 8ms delay.
[15:41] <pwillard> with a better faster CPU... sure
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[15:42] <SpeedEvil> Some types of digital encoding may inherently cause delay - all do not.
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[15:42] <SpeedEvil> The problem is likely there are several stages of processing going on, which are not helping.
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[15:43] <Chillum> If you go over to #multirotors you will see that they all use analog video and video transmitters because currently all digital systems(except for one that is just coming out that is too large and expensive) add unacceptable latency for real time flying
[15:43] <SpeedEvil> Quite.
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[15:44] <SpeedEvil> That is all digital video with normal processing chips. Not 'no processing at all'.
[15:44] <Chillum> no processing at all is exactly what they want
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[15:45] <SpeedEvil> Right - which they don't get because they use (or historically have) commodity video chips and encoders, which are not designed for that.
[15:45] <Chillum> if you can make a digital video system that can go from a flying quad to a persons goggles without significant latency these people will pay you big bucks
[15:45] <SpeedEvil> Doing so is not hard - doing so at an affordable price, and not getting gazumped by china is hard.
[15:45] <Chillum> several companies are trying to make this and so far the only one is selling a brick that costs $400
[15:46] <SpeedEvil> imager -> FPGA -> RF -> RF -> FPGA -> display
[15:46] <Chillum> do it man, people want it and they will pay for it
[15:46] <Chillum> somehow the free market has not provided it
[15:46] <SpeedEvil> The actual point here is much like the problem - you want to (on the pi) investigate deeply the video pipeline, and work out how you can get earlier.
[15:47] <SpeedEvil> Chillum: I would, bar illness.
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[15:48] <SpeedEvil> http://zacharybears.com/low-latency-raspberry-pi-video-streaming/
[15:48] <Chillum> you should tell the folks at #multirotors about how easy it is. They will call you a hero
[15:48] <Chillum> or wrong, one or the other hehe
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[15:49] <Chillum> "This approach leads to small delays (<100ms) and a high frame rate (~30fps)" hehe, I suppose he has another definition of "small delay" and "high frame rate"
[15:49] <Chillum> 20ms is enough for you to hit the tree you thought you were dodging
[15:50] <SpeedEvil> Chillum: I did not say it was easy to bring to market. I said it's technically easy in principle. You take the raw data from the imager, you shovel it over a high bandwidth link with error correction. This takes ~0 time.
[15:50] <Chillum> think the speed racer scene on Endor
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[15:50] <SpeedEvil> The above is clearly not suitable.
[15:50] <Chillum> ahhh, I think we are arguing to different standards. A single low latency video stream may be far easier than 6 at once
[15:51] <Chillum> witch quad racing everyone needs their own stream
[15:51] <Chillum> 6-8 people race at once
[15:51] <Chillum> s/witch/each/
[15:52] <SpeedEvil> There is no reason for digital video to lag more than analog video - other than compressing using commercially available chipsets and using those chipsets for video links. Which has been commonly done as they're all that's available.
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[15:54] <Chillum> no reason? What about turning pixels into bits and then the bits back into pixels? That takes time
[15:54] <Chillum> with analog no math has to be done
[15:54] <Chillum> math takes time, short time but time
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[15:58] <SpeedEvil> You have 8ms average delay on the analog image chain. (due to scanning). There is no pressing need to store a whole frame before compression, if compressing at all.
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[16:09] <hypermist> would a non copper metal coat hanger work as a radio aerial xD/
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[16:15] <nurulwai> Chillum: Any suggestions (or keywords to use in searches) for finding the next steps in reducing the pi camera's latecncy? I keep digging up stuff about network streaming, but that's not what I'm after.
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[16:15] <SpeedEvil> hypermist: no
[16:15] <hypermist> okay
[16:15] <hypermist> :D
[16:15] <hypermist> i need soild core and i dont think i have any xD
[16:16] <hypermist> well i do but its like the most tiny xD
[16:16] <SpeedEvil> nurulwai: the above thing claimed 100ms latency. For it to get that, the latency on the Pi side I would think would pretty much have to be under 60ms
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[16:25] <nurulwai> SpeedEvil: I would think the network and decoding would be a smaller contribution to the latency. I've done a similar experiment with just crapping raw jpeg frames over ethernet, and the non-pi side was definitely the least significant part.
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[16:37] <Chillum> nurulwai: I don't know, I have not played with the pi camera system yet
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[16:40] <hypermist> Quick question when music is playing via the FM radio on a pi and im not using soild core wire. should all the highs be very hissy
[16:41] <hypermist> or is it my very hyper sensivity hearing for high notes
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[16:50] <SpeedEvil> hypermist: yes, it's a very, very hacky thing. It also spews out noise which interferes with everything from air-band to GPS to ...
[16:51] <hypermist> yea i know that one SpeedEvil but i think its my music going over a certain frequency and making it hiss very bad
[16:51] <hypermist> because playing the pre included .wavs its fine
[16:51] <hypermist> its there but not as bad
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> If you are not filtering over 15(?) khz, it will be terrible, as you get aliases with stereo signal
[16:52] <hypermist> maybe its the wire im using
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> It's not the wire
[16:52] <hypermist> im not using soild core like they say
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[16:53] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
[16:53] <hypermist> im using crappy stranded stuff SpeedEvil
[16:53] <hypermist> but i remember last time d oing this with the same music it wasnt bad
[16:54] <SpeedEvil> hypermist:solid core or stranded is entirely irrelevant in this case.
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[16:55] <hypermist> is there a way i can pick the khz SpeedEvil ?
[16:55] <SpeedEvil> hypermist: It is a property of the FM signal. You need to low-pass your music perhaps.
[16:55] <SpeedEvil> Or use bluetooth
[16:56] <hypermist> if only the os that was built for the Pi1 actually worked on the pi0 but they are out of date with each other
[16:56] <hypermist> xD
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[18:07] <radioslave> ahoy hoy
[18:07] <radioslave> anyone had problems on raspbian with apps not finding your location?
[18:07] <radioslave> any weather app or website I try always fails to find my location
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[18:11] <Chillum> do you mean geo-ip or gps location?
[18:12] <radioslave> im not sure which it would be
[18:12] <radioslave> but no weather websites can automatically find my location
[18:12] <Chillum> well do you have a GPS?
[18:12] <radioslave> which makes my dashboard somewhat useless
[18:12] <radioslave> No, but it should be findable from my IP, no?
[18:13] <Chillum> the raspberry pi uses IPs the same way as anyone else
[18:13] <radioslave> yeah i thought so
[18:13] <radioslave> which is strange
[18:13] <Chillum> do you mean remote sites can't locate you, or do you mean locally?
[18:13] <radioslave> the former
[18:13] <Chillum> then it is nothing to do with your pi
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[18:13] <Chillum> possibly you are using a proxy?
[18:13] <radioslave> my windows machine is on the same network and doesn't have an issue
[18:13] <radioslave> nope
[18:14] <Chillum> it may be a linux/windows thing. Windows may be sharing more information about you
[18:14] <radioslave> like newtab extensions Leoh and Currently
[18:14] <Chillum> it may be a browser setting
[18:15] <radioslave> hmmm, chromium?
[18:15] <captnfab> Kamilion: hi, are you here? I read on some logs that you had experience with broken multi-device btrfs, can I ask you any advice about that?
[18:16] <Chillum> ohh, some browsers use wifi mac addresses and a google db lookup for more detailed information then share the result
[18:16] <Chillum> that may be off by default on a pi
[18:16] <radioslave> ah you know what I think it is
[18:16] <Chillum> ?
[18:16] <radioslave> one sec testing theory
[18:17] <radioslave> awwww yeeeeaah
[18:17] <radioslave> so essentially I've made a dashboard that flips between a calendar and weather/clock tab in chromium
[18:17] <radioslave> but part of my config includes the disabling of popups, flags, basically any notification windows chrome has to offer
[18:18] <radioslave> so when it was prompting for location access it was getting shut down
[18:18] <radioslave> in chrome://settings/content there's an option to always allow
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[18:20] <Pratham> Hi hi... Is it possible to use a single RF transmitter to broadcast a string to lots of other receivers? in case someone has done something like this, can there be technical challenges?
[18:21] <hypermist> hmm cannot tell if pi's not booting as all lights are lit up.
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[18:21] <hypermist> Because its not showing on my network :\
[18:22] <Pratham> which pi is it exactly?
[18:22] <hypermist> maybe the image i've got is corrupt.
[18:22] <hypermist> its a pi1b+ ? i trhnk
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[18:23] <Pratham> I got the pi 3b today, the lights mean different things on different versions a bit.. wait, let me see if i can find the link again
[18:23] <Pratham> just to confirm, the red and green light are constantly on and there is no blinking at any point?
[18:23] <hypermist> they blinked here and there
[18:23] <Pratham> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting
[18:24] <hypermist> im going to try get a new img just incase
[18:24] <hypermist> 4:30am is probably not the best time to deal with electronics xD
[18:24] <Pratham> if you have it hook up to a display, any output?
[18:24] <Pratham> ee.. ya lol
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[18:27] <hypermist> Pratham, ya lol :|
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[19:02] <radioslave> son of a
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[19:25] <radioslave> anyone know where/how to list the user profiles of a chromium installation on raspbian
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[19:27] <Kerr-A> hmm... wiringpi.com seems to be having issues
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[19:29] <radioslave> unreal i had my entire project working and stable
[19:29] <radioslave> and somehow i've borked it at the final hurdle
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[19:51] <radioslave> anyone have experience overclocking a RPi3?
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[20:58] <ali1234> why is it that every time i hit a problem with the pi and google it, i find a forum post with the same two people with green names getting defensive about how there isnt time to fix everything instantly, even though somebody already posted the solution earlier in the thread, and the thread itself is over two years old and it still isn't fixed?
[20:58] <Berg> denial
[20:59] <curlyears> ali1234: maybe because whomever t is at the Raspberry Pi Foundation that assigns priorities for bug fixes doesn't think they're terribly important?
[20:59] <Berg> paranoia
[20:59] <ali1234> they seem to have plenty of time for passive-aggressive forum posts
[20:59] <ali1234> maybe if they cut that out they'd have more time for bugs?
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[21:03] <curlyears> ali1234: whatever.
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[21:05] <curlyears> I swear, some people can fibns something to b***h about in ANY product, at ANY price. (Colurse, we seldom see any of them doing anything worthwhile, either. Maybe if they started contributing rather than vampiring, more things would get done)
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[21:06] <ali1234> kind of annoying when devs have the solution handed to them on a platter, and then ignore it and just claim it's the users fault for not contributing
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[21:09] <curlyears> what dev has complained about a user not contributing?
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[21:09] <ali1234> you, just now
[21:10] <curlyears> I am not a dev, I am aa user (who also does nothing worthwhile, but I don't compain about the devs)
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[21:12] <curlyears> The only complaint I have about the Pis are they they only run 1.4GHz (should be 4) and only have 1GB of RAM (should be at least 16). Humph, and so there!!!
[21:12] <caveat> trying to (re-)flash raspbian image to the sd card I get those messages in dmesg http://sprunge.us/cbij Is the sd card totally not recoverable?
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[21:13] <ali1234> caveat: looks broken
[21:14] <ali1234> could be the reader though
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[21:15] <caveat> ali1234: since I use the same reader with other sd cards, and it works, should be the sd card itself at this point. So I can trash it
[21:16] <Berg> bite the bullet less stress in the long run
[21:16] <Berg> I give broken cards to my friends
[21:16] <Berg> :)
[21:17] <curlyears> Friends don't let Friends vote for Trump! (HAH*)
[21:17] <curlyears> I mean use broken SD cards, that's what I meant, yeah, that's the ticket!
[21:18] <Berg> :)
[21:18] <Berg> anyway buying a few spare cards is always a blessing in the long run
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[21:23] <spybert> curlyears: good to see you back again :-)
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[21:24] <curlyears> spybert: thanks. Remember all that troluble I had with my ex stealing from me? I didn't realize mt ISP/phone bill bounced two months in a row. *sigh*
[21:25] <spybert> curlyears: They must have been billing the old joint account
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[21:28] <curlyears> spybert: yep.
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[21:30] <spybert> curlyears: The little one is demanding my attention again. bbl
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[22:34] <zumba_addict> hey folks, how's the playback performance of 1080 stream on pi3? I'm thinking of building a kodi so that I won't have to connect my laptop to my tv anymore
[22:35] <Bricker> it was fantastic on my rpi2
[22:35] <Bricker> i used to use it to travel
[22:35] <zumba_addict> oh ok
[22:35] <Bricker> with a 32gb thumb drive of movies
[22:35] <zumba_addict> nice
[22:35] <Bricker> i havent installed on my rpi3 yet
[22:35] <zumba_addict> so no need for pi3
[22:35] <Bricker> but its a nice travel companion i must say
[22:35] <zumba_addict> got it
[22:35] <Bricker> i would go for pi3 regardless
[22:35] <Bricker> but no need, correct
[22:36] <zumba_addict> cool
[22:36] <zumba_addict> i watched how it's kodi is installed in youtube. iirc, he used openelec
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[22:37] <Bricker> can I PM?
[22:37] <Bricker> i found a great kodi tutorial the other day and did a rebuild on my mac mini and i LOVE it
[22:37] <zumba_addict> sure
[22:37] <zumba_addict> i haven't tried pm in hexchat
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[23:01] <zerocoo1> hey all
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[23:15] <Bricker> hey zerocoo1
[23:15] <zerocoo1> how goes it?
[23:16] <zerocoo1> just scored 2 pi 3s at the little salvage store in town for 15 bucks each
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[23:17] <Bricker> jeez
[23:17] <Bricker> what is a salvage store?
[23:17] <Bricker> i cant imagine a place here where someone would give up a pi 3
[23:17] <zerocoo1> a place that gets stuff returned and stuff like that
[23:18] <Bricker> hmm
[23:19] <Bricker> well nice find indeed
[23:19] <Bricker> was it just the boards?
[23:20] <zerocoo1> boards power supply and cases
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