#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2016-09-26

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[0:30] <EtienneM> So yeah, I'm having a weird problem with my Raspberry Pi 3
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[0:30] <EtienneM> I wanted to move it a few meters, so I shut it down via the GUI and unplugged it
[0:30] <EtienneM> And I plugged it back in, and it does boot
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[0:31] <EtienneM> But then the white "To get to recovery mode, hold shift" appears. After that the screen goes completely black
[0:31] <EtienneM> And the Pi does nothing...
[0:31] <EtienneM> Any ideas what I can do?
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[0:57] <oq> pis have a recovery mode?
[0:58] <Berg> print ('HI!')
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[4:25] <steelcowboy> Hello! I want to do something very interesting
[4:26] <steelcowboy> I want to set up my Pi as a co computer of sorts to my desktop
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[4:26] <steelcowboy> Basically I want to mount it inside the case, be able to power it, communicate with it, have it control an LED strip, things like that
[4:27] <Voop> i think you need console mode
[4:27] <Voop> or what is it called
[4:27] <Voop> gadget mode
[4:27] <Voop> thats it
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[4:28] <steelcowboy> I wish regular Pis could do that, but apparently there's a hub inside that the Ethernet and USB ports are connected to that's in the way of using a normal Pi in gadget mode
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[4:29] <steelcowboy> My thought is use the power supply to power the Pi and connect to it through a serial converter connected to the USB header
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[4:29] <brianx> steelcowboy: just connect via serial. a 3.3v usb serial adapter works.
[4:30] <steelcowboy> brianx: So I forgot to mention, I want everything to be inside the case. So I'd have to buy an internal female USB to connect to the header then connect an adapter
[4:31] <steelcowboy> I just hate needing two cables and was wondering if there was a better way...
[4:31] <brianx> some motherboards still have serial, but you'd need a level converter.
[4:31] <brianx> max232 or similar.
[4:32] <steelcowboy> Yeah, I don't think mine has serial :/
[4:33] <brianx> then usb or ethernet are likely options unless you want to bitbang through something that your pc does have.
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[4:34] <steelcowboy> That might be interesting, what kinds of interfaces could I bitbang?
[4:34] <Kitlith> steelcowboy, pi zero could work, but I guess that's what you meant by 'regular Pi' -- not a Pi zero.
[4:35] <Kitlith> steelcowboy, in theory, anything, but you'd have to do it manually, most of the time.
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[4:36] <steelcowboy> Could I actually bitbang a usb2 header?
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[4:36] <Voop> you can do gadget mode on any pi i thought
[4:36] <brianx> you might be able to control the hdd indicator light and use that pin to send data to the pi
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[4:36] <Voop> you may have to bypass the usb or ethernet
[4:36] <brianx> not likely that you could bitbang a usb2
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[4:37] <steelcowboy> Voop: How do you think I could bypass the ethernet/usb?
[4:37] <oq> Voop: usb gadget doesn't work if you have a hub in the way iirc, so only A's or 0's
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[4:37] <steelcowboy> brianx: Can I actually control the hdd indictator light through software?
[4:38] <brianx> steelcowboy: depends on the os. linux can.
[4:38] <steelcowboy> Would it be in /sys or something?
[4:38] <brianx> i haven't played with it. no clue where it is.
[4:39] <oq> I just unplug the connector for the power/hdd lights on my pc
[4:39] <oq> that stuff is annoying
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[4:39] <brianx> oq: we're talking about coopting that pin for bitbang comms.
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[4:40] <steelcowboy> I was thinking it may be easier to control the mobo speaker port
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[4:41] <ball> oq: I like it when they're hooked up incorrectly and the speaker flashes and the LEDs beep.
[4:41] <brianx> the speaker is another pin that can be taken over for bitbang comms.
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[4:41] <SporkWitch> ball: i don't think that's improper connections on the hardware, definitely some good psychedelics corrupting the wetware
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[4:43] <steelcowboy> Now how hard would bitbanging be? Would I be connecting the pins on my Mobo to the UART pins on the Pi and basically writing a driver more or less to turn my mobo speaker into a serial connection?
[4:43] <steelcowboy> Or does it mean I connect speaker pins to GPIO pins and have to design a communication protocol?
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[4:45] <brianx> that's basically it. at a low enough baud rate, you could do it with a shell script. the faster you want to run, the harder it gets to get reliable timing.
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[4:46] <steelcowboy> Ah, ok. I'm having trouble finding anything useful about this topic, what should I google to find out how I could go about bitbanging a pc speaker?
[4:48] <Voop> https://www.obdev.at/products/vusb/index.html
[4:48] <brianx> "pc speaker" is what it's called
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[4:48] <brianx> vusb won't run on a pi. there are flavors for a variety of smaller chips though.
[4:49] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
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[5:12] <MrTrick> Has anyone seen a problem where the clock is WAY off? As in, what it thinks is a FIVE second interval is actually ~THIRTY?
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[5:13] <Syliss> need a rtc
[5:13] <MrTrick> really hard to google for...
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[5:14] <MrTrick> I do not mean simply that the time is wrong.
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[5:14] <MrTrick> I mean that its internal reckoning of time passing is a significan multiple of wrong.
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[5:15] <Syliss> its emulated
[5:15] <Valduare> setup ntp
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[5:17] <Syliss> thats odd tho that its time shifting
[5:18] <MrTrick> well I wonder if there's some other weirdness going on.
[5:18] <MrTrick> and ntp is not going to help if it's SO wrong. We're not talking ten minutes per day here.
[5:19] <Syliss> have you tried a new sd card and os?
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[5:20] <Valduare> cron ntp every 30 seconds :P
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[5:23] <Syliss> lol
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[5:26] <MrTrick> ah wait, problem solved.
[5:26] <MrTrick> Python-only problem.
[5:26] <MrTrick> o_O
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[6:21] <insomnia> can a Raspberry be used as a firewall/router?
[6:21] * Datalink_ is now known as Datalink
[6:23] <sir_galahad_ad> yes
[6:24] <sir_galahad_ad> though if your going to be serving a large network that needs high through put....
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[6:28] <exo-squad> is raspberry pi ever gonna get android thats good..
[6:29] <xxValiumxx> insomnia what are you looking to do?
[6:29] <xxValiumxx> exo-squad might as well just get a better powered andoid stick for cheaper.
[6:29] <exo-squad> i was thinking about getting this thing called "pine 64"
[6:30] <exo-squad> www.pine64.org
[6:30] <exo-squad> i have a really really old android tv stick
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[6:34] * binaryhermit tries to remember whether chromecast uses software derived from android or chrome os
[6:34] <binaryhermit> if it's android, I have an android stick
[6:34] <exo-squad> chromecast is chromecast. it uses its own kinda thing.
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[6:40] <exo-squad> ive been looking at clone/competitor/whatever you want to call it boards all night..
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[6:40] <exo-squad> theres odroid, banana pi, orange pi, pine64, some others i dont remember
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[6:45] <binaryhermit> my personal favorite name, roseapple pi
[6:46] <binaryhermit> but that's just because I find the name absurd
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[6:46] <exo-squad> that sounds like a disgusting pie..
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[6:49] <exo-squad> binaryhermit, i found a new term id never heard tonight in my searching "Heterogeneous Multi-Processing (HMP) solution."
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[7:47] <Zeno`> my tsl2561 thingies arrived. glad I didn't order just the chip and try and solder this up myself!
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[7:47] <Zeno`> teeny weeny little things
[7:47] <Zeno`> they cute
[7:47] <[Saint]> Heh.
[7:47] <[Saint]> 'just the chip'
[7:48] <Zeno`> just the sensor, diodes and resistors really
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[7:48] <Zeno`> I wouldn't even be able to pick them up lol
[7:48] <Zeno`> I'd lose them in my beard for sure
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[7:49] <Zeno`> they're much smaller than they looked in the photo
[7:49] <Zeno`> these thingies https://www.adafruit.com/product/439
[7:50] <Zeno`> one drop from me and my soldering iron would probably cover the whole board
[7:51] <Zeno`> now to write the code I guess
[7:52] <coolpup> anyone know how to show camera data to a smart phone?
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[7:52] <Zeno`> what kind of data? some kind of exif to json or html would work
[7:53] <Zeno`> or do you mean "live" data
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[8:29] <RoBo_V> How much current Rpi3 USB can provide at single USB port ?
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[8:37] <coolpup> 100ma i think
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[8:39] <RoBo_V> coolpup: what no
[8:39] <RoBo_V> I highly doubt it, are you sure ?
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[8:51] <coolpup> according to my vilros guide that came with my new rasp pi 3..
[8:52] <coolpup> not recommended to connect devices that draw over 100 mA
[8:52] <coolpup> to use a sep. usb hub that has its own power for more than that RoBo_V
[8:52] <RoBo_V> I understand but 100mA is on very low side
[8:54] <coolpup> it’s a small computer.. maybe can handle more but I wouldn’t push
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[9:07] <mfa298> RoBo_V: the first thing to consider is how good your power supply is for the pi
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[9:08] <RoBo_V> and then ?
[9:09] <mfa298> if it's not very good then that will be your limiting factor
[9:10] <RoBo_V> if it is good then what we can expect from Pi3 USB port ?
[9:10] <mfa298> and lots of people have poor power supplies
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[9:10] <mfa298> I think the hub chip allows just over 1A between all ports
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[9:11] <RoBo_V> How max amps we can extract from single port ?
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[9:13] <mfa298> 1A - whats on the other ports probably
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[9:14] <mfa298> but you need a good psu for that, if your using a phone charger expect there to be problems if you pull that much current
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[9:16] <RoBo_V> I see
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[9:17] <RoBo_V> https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/340/how-much-power-can-be-provided-through-usb
[9:18] <RoBo_V> this provided more insight.
[9:18] <RoBo_V> coolpup: you're right, they say 100mA recommeded.
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[9:28] <mfa298> hmmm 4 year old answer for a board thats only been out 6 month
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[9:35] <mfa298> RoBo_V: wasn't hard to find some official numbers, rather than an outdate stack exchange
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[9:35] <mfa298> https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/#power
[9:35] <RoBo_V> Right, thats what I am trying to look.
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[9:36] <mfa298> the insight on that stack exchange is correct for the first batches of Pi 1 B boards, but they quickly changed to remove the 100mA limit
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[9:37] <RoBo_V> I'm concerned about latest pi 3
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[9:39] <mfa298> look at the link i just provided, the one that only took a few clicks on the raspberry pi site to find.
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[9:41] <RoBo_V> Yes looked at those numbers.
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[10:27] <Drzacek> Good morning, how it's going #raspberrypi?
[10:27] <Habbie> hi Drzacek
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[10:45] <Berg> jellow fellow
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[11:04] <gordonDrogon> Pi USB: For the v1 it was 140mA per port. For the v1.1 it was whatever was left over from the 700mA in after the cpu/gpu used it's lot - typically 300mA in total. For the v2 & 2 it's 1.2A shared over all 4 ports.
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[11:05] <binaryhermit> I think you mean v2 & 3?
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> yea.
[11:06] <binaryhermit> sorry for being a bit of a jerkface by pointing that out
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[11:06] * binaryhermit just ate a can of chicken breast
[11:06] <gordonDrogon> if you say so.
[11:07] <yene> go damn, I increased the temprature and used a finer grind on the beans. Suddenly a new flavor.
[11:08] <gordonDrogon> hm. speaking of that, I need to go & have breakfast.
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[11:10] <Berg> does the wiring pi have a C example of a cnc controler?
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[11:10] <Berg> I cant program in C
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[11:11] <Berg> something like one them 3D printer programs but using the gpio pin from a pi no arduino middle man?
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[11:13] <Drzacek> mmmm chicken breast
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[11:13] <Berg> i wonder if raptor tasted like chicken
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[11:14] <Drzacek> Berg, maybe you could take the library from arduino and just use it with rpi (redefining output pins of course) + remember that arduino has 5V output, while rpi (I think) 3.3
[11:15] <Berg> well the issue is i have a program on the pi thaT is 3d cnc everything but it wants to use usb to printer
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[11:17] <Berg> lots of them like printpi printrun etc
[11:17] <Berg> they all in c and use usb to talk to printer
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[11:18] <Berg> i need a way to make it use gpio pins and maybe what program would be the best to use for that
[11:18] <Habbie> Berg, why not use the usb?
[11:19] <mfa298> first thing you probably need to find out is what signals you need to send out the gpio and what the timings / jitter need to look like.
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[11:25] <Berg> because my steppers dont plug into usb Habbie
[11:25] <Berg> they are wired to ther gpio pins
[11:26] <Habbie> ah
[11:26] <Habbie> and i understand arduino code to control them exists?
[11:26] <Berg> i can run the stepper mfa298
[11:27] <Berg> yes and also a program for a pi to run them excists but it wants to use usb to talk to a factory made printer
[11:27] <Berg> i want it to use gpio pins
[11:27] <gordonDrogon> Berg, there is a Linux CNC project somewhere.
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[11:27] <gordonDrogon> I think it's more designed to use older PCs and their parallel ports though.
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[11:29] <Berg> lots good porograms around i just dont understanbd how to track down the waY THEY talk to a printer
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[11:30] <Berg> i can make a python program to run steppers nbut running 3 at the same time python is too slow
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[11:31] <Berg> ok ill keep looking
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[11:32] <Berg> octoprint astroprint
[11:33] <mfa298> it may be easier writing something yourself rather than trying to adapt other code. depends a bit on how well written and documented the other code is.
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[11:33] <Berg> yeah
[11:34] <Berg> i know python
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[11:34] <Berg> i might rethink the program structure
[11:35] <Berg> i think its gona need threading or process
[11:36] <gordonDrogon> it's often easier to offload motor control to something else - e.g. arduino, so send it a high-level command via (e.g.) serial - move to X:123, y:456: z:789 then wait for the arduino to do it...
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[11:37] <gordonDrogon> however there is still the progrmaming issue and if you're not a strong C programmer, then ... keep learning :)
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[11:37] <Berg> im not strong in any6 c
[11:37] <Zeno`> gordonDrogon, what's the reasoning behind piHiPri being in its on file?
[11:37] <Zeno`> s/on/own
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[11:52] <gordonDrogon> Zeno`, I don't recall.
[11:53] <gordonDrogon> maybe it seems like a good idea at the time,.
[11:53] <Zeno`> that's often the case :)
[11:54] <Zeno`> not that it matters one iota
[11:54] <Zeno`> it just kinda stood out
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[11:59] <gordonDrogon> there's a bit of code-space efficiency by putting functions in separate files - so only stuff you want actually gets linked into the final object file, however I don't think many people care about that now. Not sure if that's what I was thinking - maybe I just added it as an afterthought.
[12:00] <gordonDrogon> maybe I'll merge it into the main wiringPi.c file, but that's becoming too big now - maybe that's why I took it out in the first place :)
[12:00] <Zeno`> could be
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[12:00] <gordonDrogon> also makes stuff compile faster..
[12:01] <gordonDrogon> (in separate files using make - as only files that get changed get re-compiled)
[12:01] <Zeno`> that's true
[12:02] <gordonDrogon> I suspect I take stuff out routinely though - just last week I split a file in my basic interpreter to put some code in its own file.
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[12:02] <Zeno`> at least .000001us faster in this case :)
[12:02] <gordonDrogon> well - I developed all this on the first generation Pi..
[12:02] <Zeno`> :-o
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[12:02] <gordonDrogon> so anything I could do to speed up compile time was worth it.
[12:02] <Zeno`> ok, well.. yeah ok
[12:03] <Zeno`> I'm not complaining btw
[12:03] <Zeno`> it just struck me as standing out
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[12:05] <Zeno`> and I was just curious :)
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[12:07] <gordonDrogon> right. that's my last order in for tomorrow, time to hit the bakery...
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[12:08] <Berg> cake?
[12:08] <Berg> I realy need cake
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[12:09] <gordonDrogon> no cake today. it's pastys, saussage rolls, quiche and bread dough for baking tomorrow.
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[12:09] <Berg> i find this very unattractive to my taste buds
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[12:10] <BurtyB> hmm sausage rolls
[12:10] <Berg> i acvtualy like pies over sausage rolls
[12:11] <Berg> beef onion bacon and cheese
[12:11] <Berg> what a combo
[12:11] <BurtyB> that sounds a bit ew
[12:11] <Berg> realy?
[12:11] <Berg> whats best pie for you?
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[12:13] <BurtyB> hmm I'd normally fo with steak, cherry or pork :)
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[12:14] <BurtyB> not really a fan of cheese in pies or pasties it just seems wrong to me
[12:14] <Lartza> Meat pies, this can only be britain ;)
[12:14] <Berg> australia
[12:15] <Berg> you hav e lunch at the footy its a meat pie
[12:15] <Zeno`> have breakfast... it's a meat pie
[12:15] <Zeno`> well, I often have them for breakfast anyway :3
[12:15] <Berg> realy
[12:15] <Lartza> :D
[12:15] <Lartza> I've never eaten one
[12:15] <Berg> i prefer toast for breakfast
[12:15] <Lartza> Savory pies here are different
[12:15] <Zeno`> nothing wrong with a pie for brekky
[12:16] <Berg> well meat pies was invented for civilized folks so....
[12:16] <Berg> i have icecream for breakfast too i mean my normal breakfast is toast
[12:16] <Berg> no limit or restrictions put on breakfast
[12:17] <Berg> ok back to caKE for me
[12:17] <Berg> i do have cake
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[12:49] <Zeno`> mcp3004 done
[12:49] <Zeno`> now I guess I should program this tsl2561
[12:50] <Zeno`> maybe tomorrow though. I have a terrible stomach ache :/
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[13:12] <wanderman> hello,
[13:13] <wanderman> Is it posible to run html/css/js cordova app on raspberrypi ?
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[13:18] <Lartza> wanderman, Of course
[13:19] <wanderman> Lartza, i tried best google, but i coudn't find any project on that,
[13:19] <Lartza> Uhh what do you want to do exactly?
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[13:19] <wanderman> complie html app to rpi using cordova
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[13:21] <Lartza> Oh cordova was... this thing
[13:21] <Lartza> Why do you want to use cordova
[13:21] <Lartza> It's for phones
[13:21] <Lartza> effectively
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[13:23] <wanderman> i see, ok.
[13:23] <wanderman> thank you Lartza and zvonimir__
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[13:27] <zvonimir__> wanderman: I'd start with cloning and compiling this on raspberry: https://github.com/apache/cordova-ubuntu
[13:27] <zvonimir__> and then debug...
[13:28] <zvonimir__> it's also possible to get android on raspberry
[13:28] <zvonimir__> and there _is_ cordova_android
[13:28] <zvonimir__> and then debug :)
[13:29] <wanderman> oh
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[13:29] <Lartza> I mean that's probably more effort than is worth... to make the Ubuntu port to work
[13:29] <wanderman> u mean, i can install andriod on rpi?
[13:30] <Lartza> If you want
[13:30] <wanderman> i'm not technial, i can copy and paste :(
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[13:30] <Lartza> What do you even want to use cordova for?
[13:31] <wanderman> cordova can turn your html/css/js file into single file an app.
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[13:31] <Lartza> Yeah, what app?
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[13:31] <wanderman> a GUI interface i like to link GPIO
[13:32] <Lartza> Cordova probably isn't a tool for this at all then...
[13:32] <wanderman> i want write GUI in html/css/js and get
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[13:32] <wanderman> :(
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[13:37] <Zeno`> It'd be easier using Qt or GTK
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[14:40] <Voop> in order to make the pi 360 degree video capable
[14:40] <Voop> as in turn the video when you turn the device
[14:40] <Voop> would a generic gyroscope work
[14:40] <Voop> and if so, what would you need beyond that
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[14:43] <srk> Voop: magnetometer would be better. or rotary enoder
[14:43] <srk> *encoder
[14:43] <Voop> thats a knob
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[14:43] <Voop> dial rather
[14:44] <Voop> not sure what a magnetometer is
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[14:45] <Voop> ehh that seems more difficult than a gyroscope
[14:46] <Voop> i just need it to sense rotation
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[14:46] <Kryczek> Voop: SenseHAT
[14:46] <Kryczek> https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/sense-hat/
[14:47] <Voop> thats a hat though
[14:47] <Voop> so would a gyroscope not work
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[14:47] <Kryczek> too big?
[14:47] <Voop> yeah
[14:48] <Kryczek> what about this one: http://ozzmaker.com/product/berryimu-accelerometer-gyroscope-magnetometer-barometricaltitude-sensor/
[14:48] <Voop> https://www.fasttech.com/p/1453500
[14:48] <Voop> ^what i have and pretty much my limit on space
[14:49] <Kryczek> you already have that?
[14:49] <Voop> yeah
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[14:49] <Voop> that berryimu would fit
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[14:50] <Voop> im just looking to play youtube videos with 360 degree rotation
[14:51] <Kryczek> as in... the RPi has a screen?
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[14:51] <Voop> yes
[14:51] <Kryczek> ah ok
[14:51] <Kryczek> fun
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[14:52] <Voop> trying to see how well it can do VR related things
[14:52] <Voop> im assuming not well, but possible
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[14:53] <yene> I use the MPU6050 to look around inside elite space ships
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[14:54] <Kryczek> Voop: watch out for lag-induced nausea
[14:54] <Voop> heh
[14:54] <Kryczek> I'm serious
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[14:55] <Voop> i wanted to hook it up to a very wide and very small 1440p display
[14:55] <Voop> but it would run at like 6fps
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[14:55] <Voop> couldnt even watch a movie on it
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[14:58] <Voop> i get nauseous as hell from the oculus
[14:58] <Voop> and that runs at 90 or so fps
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[15:04] <pwillard> I never even experienced Screen generated nausea until a marathon DOOM session. I'm wary ever since.
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[15:32] <Zeno`> we used to stay up all night playing duke nukem 3d at lan parties after we got bored with doom
[15:32] <Zeno`> what I can't get over is how we used to transport all that heavy gear lol
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[15:33] <Zeno`> I get tired just thinking about moving my *laptop* these days
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[15:35] <Zeno`> In AU the blood for dn3d was censored, but I fixed that
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[15:35] <Zeno`> just replaced a branch with some NOPs
[15:35] <Zeno`> heh
[15:36] <Zeno`> those were the days
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[15:41] <Zeno`> you look at what they censored these days and just thing... why bother?
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[15:49] <pwillard> Wolfenstein, nuff said
[15:49] <Zeno`> not multiplayer
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[15:49] <ozzzy> the only software that was able to give me a headache in 2 minutes
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[15:50] <pwillard> Right. Wolfenstein did it to me everytime I played longer than 10 minutes
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[15:51] <pwillard> the original bitmap pixel blasting version... not the online multiplayer version. (THat one was awesome)
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[15:52] <ozzzy> the original Castle Wolfenstein
[15:52] <ozzzy> couldn't play it
[15:52] <ozzzy> but I LOVED the first few Space Quest and the Manhunter games
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[15:57] <pwillard> well, after the dry gags induced by CRT vertigo, I stopped Wolfenstein altogether.
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[16:02] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[16:23] <gordonDrogon> original castle wolfenstein? the one on the Apple II, you mean?
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[16:25] <Tenkawa> heh thats one from way back
[16:25] <Tenkawa> waaaaaaaaaaay
[16:26] <gordonDrogon> speech from a 1-bit audio output ...
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[16:28] <Tenkawa> remember 'realaudio' i think was its name?
[16:28] <gordonDrogon> no idea. I looked at it briefly, but by then I was more into the BBC Micro - which I could afford - still couldn't afford an apple II at that point.
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[16:29] <Tenkawa> ahhh
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[16:30] <gordonDrogon> it was an intersting scheme from what I recall though - there were music playing programs that used the same effect to play multiple notes - I think it used a form of PWM but all done entirely in software.
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[16:34] <Drzacek> Is kde.org down?
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[16:35] <gordonDrogon> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/kde.org
[16:35] <Drzacek> didnt knew there is such thing, thanks
[16:36] <Tenkawa> brb
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[16:37] <pwillard> a nice network tidbit there
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[16:49] <heller__> hai
[16:49] <heller__> so why is my rpi3 dropping from wifi after a day
[16:50] <heller__> i even added a script to restart networking if ping is not working
[16:51] <Habbie> anything in logs/dmesg?
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[16:56] <plum> hi
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[16:57] <heller__> seems like its losing network somehow
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[16:58] <plum> my pi b doesn't seem to want to boot :(
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[16:58] <sir_galahad_ad> ouch
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[16:59] <sir_galahad_ad> tried a different sd card?
[16:59] <plum> it had all lights on yesterday, I couldn't access it over ssh so I had to pull the power plug
[16:59] <Drzacek> plum, does the LED turn on when you plug power?
[16:59] <heller__> where does crontab spam messages?
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[16:59] <plum> yes, the red LED is constant
[16:59] <plum> but no other LEDs
[16:59] <plum> I tried with and without SD card, same issue
[16:59] <liefer> I have 2 rpi's, a 2 and a 3. I have installed raspbian on one, and osmc on another. Will there be any issues if i want to swap the SD cards between them? Is the hardware similar enough that i can do this?
[16:59] <ohmyfromage> plum your sdcard could be corrupted
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[16:59] <Drzacek> Action LED (I believe there is 2nd led on RPI)
[17:00] <Drzacek> ?
[17:00] <ohmyfromage> plum: try reimaging
[17:00] <plum> I was thinking that too... sad day
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[17:00] <plum> I'll need to look at it when I get home, I turned off the outlet remotely so hopefully it might just be a browned out fuse thing
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[17:00] <plum> I was reading about it on a different thread
[17:00] <Drzacek> liefer, if it is new raspbian, it has all you need for all RPis (1, 2, 3, 0s etc)
[17:00] <ohmyfromage> plum: I've noticed that if I pull the plug then I need to reimage the sdcard
[17:01] <plum> awwww dang :(
[17:01] <ohmyfromage> plum: I need to do a clean shutdown every time
[17:01] <ohmyfromage> which is why I keep it on a backup battery
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[17:01] <plum> how can I do a clean shutdown if it freezes up randomly like that?
[17:01] <ohmyfromage> just in case I lose power
[17:01] <plum> I couldn't access it to shut down so I had to yank
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[17:01] <Drzacek> yeah, sd cards doesn't like unclean shutdowns, there is usually always some writing/reading going on, and without clean unmount the SD become corrupted
[17:01] <liefer> Drzacek, it is the newest. Im more worried about maybe the kernel will not take advantage of the features of the cpu, since they're different between the two...?
[17:01] <Tenkawa> uggh the weather here is so blah
[17:02] <ohmyfromage> plum: you couldn't ssh in?
[17:02] <plum> nah I couldn't
[17:02] <plum> tried from two different hosts
[17:02] <plum> all LEDs were on constantly on the Pi
[17:02] <Drzacek> liefer, the raspbian isn't "installed", you just write the ready image to a SD card, so it has support for all versions, and on boot it discovers with which hardware will it work
[17:03] <liefer> I see. Thank you
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[17:03] <ohmyfromage> plum: that seems like a prob
[17:03] <plum> yeah... I might try to boot it on a B+ and see if the SD card works on that guy
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[17:04] <plum> crap... it's a regular SD card though I just remembered
[17:04] <plum> not sure if the B+ takes those or micro SD cards
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[17:07] <plum> I'll look into it when I can better access it
[17:07] <plum> thanks all :) hoping for the best lol
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[17:29] <eKenda> Hey guys, what's a good tutorial to follow on setting up a small server on pi at home that I can access from uni?
[17:29] <eKenda> (Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask)
[17:30] <methuzla> serving what?
[17:30] <eKenda> ftp*
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[17:31] <leftyfb> eKenda: it's not ftp, but what about this? http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-Owncloud-dropbox-clone/
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[17:41] <swift110> hey all
[17:41] <eKenda> leftyfb, looks quite simple but I don't see how I can connect from outside my network using this set up.
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[17:42] <Tenkawa> eKenda: port forwarding on your router?
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[17:44] <leftyfb> eKenda: Your best bet would be to open port 443 on your home router and connect to it with either a browser or client
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[17:45] <eKenda> cool got it, thanks :)
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[17:52] <IT_Sean> Morning
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[18:03] <ThePendulum> Hi IT_Sean
[18:03] <ThePendulum> On a scale of 0 to 10, how was your greeting experience?
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[18:03] <GenteelBen> IT_Sean: how's life in IT?
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[18:04] <IT_Sean> It doesn't suck to be me, in general.
[18:04] <ThePendulum> Can I try?
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[18:05] <IT_Sean> Try what? Being me?
[18:05] <ThePendulum> Yeah
[18:05] <IT_Sean> Nope.
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[18:06] <ThePendulum> Alright, well it was worth a try
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[18:34] <heller__> uggh
[18:35] <heller__> pretty bad wifi on my balcony
[18:35] <heller__> -79dBm
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[18:36] <IT_Sean> #FirstWorldProblems
[18:38] <swift110> lol
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[18:38] <Armand> Damnit.. I need to move my routers
[18:38] <Armand> routers/APs..
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[18:40] <heller__> I've got external anteannaes for AP but would need to make holes to electrical cabin to get them out
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[18:42] <heller__> so what does power mgt on rpi3?
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[18:48] <pwillard> a dedicated IC that apparently is STILL sensotive to light
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[18:50] <swensson> Hey guys, Im planning of using a stepper motor for my automated curtain pulldown, do I need a controll board for that or can I use it right away?
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[18:52] <stray77> youll want a stepper driver
[18:52] <Cromaglious_> you need a driver which is the H bridge to do the switching for the coils, you can use an arduino to step it..
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[18:52] <swensson> Cromaglious_ Could I make that H bridge in my own circut?
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[18:53] <stray77> #reprap know all about stepper drivers
[18:53] <Cromaglious_> you could... easier to get a chip
[18:53] <swensson> Okey thanks guys =)
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[18:53] <Cromaglious_> polulu's do 2amps.. and they are nice and small
[18:54] <Cromaglious_> toshiba drivers like the 660 will do 4amps
[18:54] <Cromaglious_> just the chip is as big as a polulu board
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[19:53] <gordonDrogon> swensson, another +1 for the polulo boards. I use the higher power "purple" ones for stepper stuff.
[19:54] <pwillard> swensson: Same comment as #arduino... even more so true for RPI
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> or even polulu...
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[19:54] <gordonDrogon> pololu...
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[19:55] <gordonDrogon> insert random vowel...
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[19:58] <pwillard> Yes, They named themeslves wrong... we all want to call them polulu
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[19:59] <pwillard> Means long spear in hawaiian
[20:00] <pwillard> means motor controllers to everyone else
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[20:08] <heller__> wonder if WIFI works worse in cold iar?
[20:08] <heller__> air*
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[20:10] <dreamon> Hello. what is the different /etc/crontab -e and sudo crontab -e ?
[20:10] <ShorTie> desity of cold air more or less then warm air ??
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[20:11] <ShorTie> density*
[20:12] <IT_Sean_MEETING> cold air is more dense than warm, ShorTie
[20:12] <dreamon> cold air is more density.
[20:12] <dreamon> therefore coldair is on ground and hotair is going up.
[20:13] <ShorTie> thus it takes more power to get thru
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[20:14] <gh16ito> So I'm trying to install Raspbian, but it seems that my SDHC card has gone at least partially bad.
[20:15] <gh16ito> Does anyone know if there's a way to force those blocks to be recognized as bad, and just work around it?
[20:15] <gh16ito> I'm on Arch.
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[20:16] <gh16ito> Trying badblocks now.
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[20:32] <pwillard> My Pi3 hated my Samsung 16gb type 10. Would work for a short time then self corrupt. I formatted on my canon camera. no issues.
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[20:36] <Voop> well when you format an sd card that had raspian on it
[20:36] <Voop> it shows as way smaller than it actually is
[20:37] <Voop> at least in windows
[20:38] <lopta> Voop: Does a Raspbian image have a FAT partition up front?
[20:38] <methuzla> the fat partition is small
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[20:40] <Voop> no idea lopta
[20:40] <Voop> yeah i assume thats what it is
[20:41] <Mikerhinos> I'm new to RPI, I'd like to play and have fun building a headless device that can switch TV channels and turn on/off my LED lamp (IR too) with voice commands, and TTS answers like "switching to *desired_channel*". Do I only need a RPI + breadboard and cables + IR receiver + IR transmitter + Microphone + speaker + 2.5A power supply ?
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[20:41] <Voop> pretty much
[20:41] <Voop> also get a stress ball
[20:42] <methuzla> + lirc
[20:43] <Mikerhinos> Voop, ok lol I'll add that to the checklist :) I learnt a bit of Python and use Ubuntu since a few years, I'm very curious and the Raspberry is poking me since quite a few months :)
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[20:44] <methuzla> Mikelevel, dealing with the tight timing requirement of the IR signals is tricky with the pi. LIRC is a linux library to deal with that.
[20:45] <methuzla> Mikerhinos, ^^ (sorry, bad autocomplete)
[20:45] <pwillard> Or you could hoist the function off to an arduino
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[20:45] <Mikerhinos> methuzla, Ok added the LIRC webpage to favs :)
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[20:48] <Mikerhinos> pwillard, I read a lot of projects using Arduino but I don't really know it :/ Is it a RPI alternative or is it a device that can be plugged in it ? Looks like Adafruit makes a lot of cool things but for Arduino (I'm quite a noob and it's a new world that I have to learn :/ )
[20:49] <WormFood> I'm experienced with developing for regular microcontrollers, like the AVR (not Arduino), but new to using Linux for embedded development. Is there a tutorial for guys like me, to help get me up to speed quicker on the RPI?
[20:49] <WormFood> Mikerhinos, the Arduino is just an AVR based microcontroller, that is cheap, and popular for embedded stuff.
[20:49] <pwillard> No. Arduino is near realtime when compared to RPI.
[20:49] <pwillard> its a whole different animal. It is a microcontroller, not SOC
[20:50] <BluesKaj_> any chance there's a method to install chrome-browser on rpi 3 without some clunky ppa ?
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[20:50] <WormFood> The AVR would be like a slave processor, to the RPI. Also, the AVR has a lot of various inputs and outputs.
[20:50] <WormFood> An AVR (Arduino) would be great, if you wanted to measure and analog voltage, for example.
[20:51] <methuzla> WormFood, new to linux also, or just linux on pi?
[20:51] <WormFood> Just Linux on the pi. I've been running Linux since '95, and other unix-like OSes since the mid-late 1980s
[20:51] <Voop> Mikerhinos, a lot of things 'for arduino' work on the pi
[20:52] <WormFood> for hardware, be aware that the Arduino typically runs at 5 volts, and the RPI is 3.3 volts, if I'm not mistaken. The RPI is NOT 5 volt tolerant, so don't even try.
[20:52] <methuzla> WormFood, what programming language do you want to use?
[20:52] <WormFood> Straight C
[20:52] <pwillard> there are some recent jessie based instructions for installing chrome on Pi3. Google
[20:52] <lopta> methuzla: Algol
[20:52] <WormFood> or bash
[20:53] <methuzla> WormFood, http://wiringpi.com/
[20:53] <WormFood> Maybe I could give python a shot with it. I started learning it, but it's so unlike C, it's really bizarre to me.
[20:53] <Voop> well like an IR module would work on both
[20:53] <WormFood> And I've tried to make sense out asm, but I don't see any need to learn ARM asm. Can you give me any good reason to use asm?
[20:54] <methuzla> no
[20:54] <WormFood> I used to do a lot of asm programming, when I was writing software for smart cards. But that's been a few years. ARM asm is really foreign to me. I really don't have any desire to learn it, since I don't see how it will help me.
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[20:55] <methuzla> then don't
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[20:55] <WormFood> Well, you confirmed what I thought.
[20:55] <WormFood> Thanks for the url. I'm checking it out now.
[20:56] <willy23123> What's wrong with c++
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[20:56] <WormFood> I don't do OOP
[20:56] <WormFood> I'm used to programming for smaller devices, like the AVR. I don't feel that C++, in general, is a good language to use, on that type of device, because of the overhead.
[20:57] <methuzla> WormFood, there are python modules as well (actually several), but if you don't know/like python, then why bother
[20:57] <Mikerhinos> pwillard, Ok so the Arduino is not a thing that I could control in real time headless with my PC ? I have 4 Panasonic NCR18650B from my wife's old vapo and if I could do a portable device with it, would be even better :)
[20:57] <WormFood> Learning Python is on my list of things to do.
[20:57] <willy23123> I'm migrating my code from c to c++
[20:57] <pwillard> Why not?
[20:58] <willy23123> I thought python was slow and bloated
[20:58] <WormFood> Mikerhinos, I suggest you check out the AVR/Arduion, and see. It might be able to replace the RPI for what you're doing. They're quite capable devices, that have a lot of support for random devices.
[20:58] <willy23123> But I might be wrong
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[20:58] <WormFood> I see no point to migrate a program from C to C++, unless there is a good reason it. Just to change it, doesn't make sense, unless there is some other benefit from it.
[20:59] <Voop> dont fix what aint broken
[20:59] <willy23123> Mainly to make it readable
[20:59] <WormFood> Python, like any other language, has it's good points, and bad points. Usually you'll find that most languages are really good at some things, and really crappy with other things. And some are really crappy with everything.
[21:00] <methuzla> ^^ pretty much
[21:00] <WormFood> I don't think any language is really good with everything.
[21:00] <Mikerhinos> WormFood, Learnt the basics of Python a few months ago, so easy to read and code compared to Java etc...
[21:00] <methuzla> use the right tool for the job
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[21:00] <willy23123> Then I should have stuck with python
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[21:00] <WormFood> Mikerhinos, I learned assembly language, and C back in the 80s. I've spent a LOT of time looking at that type of code. For me, Python feels really hard to learn.
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[21:01] <willy23123> Crap now I have a half c++ and c monster
[21:01] <WormFood> Java just feels natural to me, because of their syntax. I don't know Java, but I can typically make sense out of their code.
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[21:01] <pwillard> As a 3rd or 4th language, it actually is harder.
[21:01] <pwillard> as a first language, apparently not.
[21:01] <WormFood> I once wrote a program in 1/2 C, and 1/2 68000 assembly language. It was a video player.
[21:01] <willy23123> Why don't you use c on the pi
[21:02] <willy23123> I've used a bcm2835 library written in c
[21:02] <WormFood> If I need to do real work with the pi, I would most likely do it in C, since that, I feel, would be the best tool for the job, that I'm proficient at.
[21:03] <pwillard> Programming Java is like programming with sack of garbage on your back. You feel burdened and something is smelly.
[21:03] <WormFood> For learning Python, I think the pi could be an interesting platform to learn on.
[21:03] <methuzla> true
[21:03] <willy23123> Yeah python is faster to learn and make progress with
[21:04] <WormFood> Saying Java is the best language, because it works on all platforms, is like saying anal sex is the best sex, because it works on all genders.
[21:04] <WormFood> I hate Java.
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[21:04] <WormFood> It is only cross platform, if you don't do anything with it.
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[21:05] <Voop> i hate java
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[21:05] <methuzla> i have no issues with java. it, like every programming language, has its place.
[21:06] <WormFood> And, sometimes that place is in the bit bucket.
[21:06] <pwillard> In a group project with many coders... Java is OK
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[21:06] <liefer> WormFood, by that reasoning no "cross platform" language exists
[21:06] <willy23123> If I was starting again would I use C#
[21:06] <liefer> java6 and 7 are horrible languages, i defeinitely agree
[21:06] <liefer> java8 is decent tho
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[21:07] <willy23123> Or start in C++ 14
[21:07] <liefer> Additionally, we need to get away from the idea that "C# is slow, C++ is fast". Its rarely true in practice. In practice, bad programmers produce slow code in all languages, and good programmers produce fast code
[21:07] <WormFood> liefer, well, not 100%...I mean, for doing real stuff. Java is mostly cross platform, as is python and C
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[21:08] <liefer> "real stuff" is a no true scotsman argument
[21:08] <willy23123> I see
[21:08] <WormFood> I've taken Unix (CLI) software, and compiled it on Windows, with no changes.
[21:08] <liefer> it doesnt actually *mean* anything :)
[21:08] <WormFood> I'm talking about "real stuff", being interacting with the OS.
[21:09] <liefer> how do you make something that does *not* interact with the OS in some form?
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[21:09] <liefer> you need to be more specific about what "real stuff" is
[21:09] <WormFood> That type of stuff is naturally platform dependent.
[21:09] <WormFood> I just clarified.
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[21:09] <liefer> how long have you programmed for?
[21:09] <WormFood> Since the early 80s
[21:09] <lopta> I miss programming.
[21:09] <liefer> and ur still this bad ad communicating about it? =/
[21:09] <liefer> at*
[21:09] <WormFood> I'm not a programmer per se.
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[21:10] <liefer> doesnt matter
[21:10] <WormFood> I'm more of a hardware guy. I can program, but it's not what I'd call myself.
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[21:10] <lopta> I should have gone with database programming instead of networking for my degree focus. I would have been more employable.
[21:10] <lopta> ...because I could probably do that remotely.
[21:10] <WormFood> And it's 3am here. I'm a little tired, so yeah, I may not be that clear in expressing my thoughts.
[21:11] <lopta> WormFood: Where are you?
[21:11] <WormFood> I'm in China
[21:11] <WormFood> Shenzhen city, to be specific.
[21:11] * lopta nods
[21:11] <liefer> lopta, i think you've been unlucky or are in an unlucky location... the market is desperate for developers/programmers
[21:11] <lopta> Isn't that where almost all the hardware's made anyway?
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[21:12] <liefer> network... database... low level stuff... its all good
[21:12] <lopta> liefer: I'm in an unlucky location.
[21:12] <liefer> =(
[21:12] <WormFood> Yeah. I can almost guarantee, each and every person in this channel, has *something* that was made in my city.
[21:12] <liefer> becoming a remote worker can be difficult i guess
[21:12] <lopta> If I went 100km North I could probably even find unix work but I'd never get home in time to see the children.
[21:12] <lopta> ...and I can't put a price on that.
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[21:13] <liefer> take them with you :)
[21:13] <liefer> move there
[21:13] <Voop> WormFood, will you tell china post to ship my package faster
[21:13] <Voop> plz
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[21:13] <lopta> liefer: There are some great reasons why that's not going to happen.
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[21:13] <liefer> i could imagine, i wasnt being too serious
[21:14] * lopta nods
[21:14] <WormFood> Voop, are you sure it's slow on China Post's side?
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[21:14] <WormFood> What a lot of these companies do, is wait until they have a minimum shipment size, so they can ship it cheaper
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[21:14] <Voop> yup
[21:14] <WormFood> So, a lot of them lie, and say it's been shipped, when really it hasn't
[21:15] <liefer> I will never complain about China shipping. The fact that i can get free shipping from china to me (5000+km) for a $10 product blows my mind
[21:16] <Voop> oh i love buying direct from china
[21:16] <WormFood> some of that has to do with where you live. Shipping to some countries, especially South America, and Africa, can be extremely expensive.
[21:16] <WormFood> I live walking distance from huaqiangbei (google it)
[21:16] <Voop> forget a $10 item, i had a $1.50 item ship free a month ago
[21:16] <liefer> !
[21:16] <Voop> how they made profit on that is a mystery to me
[21:17] <WormFood> You'd be sick if you saw how cheap I could just walk into places and buy things.
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[21:17] <WormFood> I got an Arduino, for less than the retail price of the AVR chip on the board.
[21:17] <lopta> WormFood: Ever see any Loongson boards?
[21:17] <Voop> can you buy from manufacturers there
[21:18] <WormFood> Perhaps. I don't recognize that name. But there are a LOT of shops on huaqiangbei road.
[21:18] <WormFood> Yeah, of course.
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[21:18] <Voop> must be like being a kid in a candy store
[21:18] <WormFood> exactly.
[21:19] <lopta> WormFood: They're Chinese MIPS chips.
[21:19] <WormFood> And I used to repair electronics. My formal school training is in electronics mostly, and some computers. There isn't many things in that place that I can't tell you what it is.
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[21:19] <WormFood> lopta, they're not. They're the real deal.
[21:19] <Voop> im getting into component repair
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[21:20] <Voop> easy stuff really
[21:20] <WormFood> some of it can be. It depends on what you're working on.
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[21:20] <lopta> WormFood: In what way did I imply that they weren't real?
[21:21] <WormFood> I have zero desire to work on that tiny surface mount shit.
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[21:21] <WormFood> lopta, oh, I misunderstood what you were saying. I follow you now.
[21:21] <WormFood> You were talking about the Loongson boards.
[21:22] <WormFood> I can probably get them here. I just need an address to go to. Which can most likely be found online.
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[21:28] <willy23123> Anyone use a wifi system on chip
[21:28] <methuzla> like esp8266?
[21:29] <willy23123> I was thinking a bit more powerfull
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[21:30] <willy23123> I've a few atheros router chip Dev boards
[21:30] <willy23123> They run openwrt
[21:32] <willy23123> I'd like a wifi and cellular on the same chip
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[21:34] <willy23123> I guess iot is everywhere at the minute
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[21:35] <willy23123> Don't think my boss will let us move away from the raspberry pi compute module anyway
[21:36] <lopta> willy23123: Has she invested heavily in a custom backplane for it?
[21:36] <willy23123> Yeah
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[21:37] <willy23123> Well he spent a few days designing an adapter board
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[21:38] <lopta> willy23123: That'd usually do it.
[21:38] <willy23123> Turns a compute module into a standard pi
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[21:39] <willy23123> Plus the parent company just bought 2000 pis
[21:40] <willy23123> I think a custom module might be cheaper in the long run though
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[21:42] <lopta> willy23123: Might be more reliable, too.
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[21:46] <bwe> Hi, which 3G/GPRS shield module do you recommend for Raspberry Pi 2?
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[21:50] <Voop> i have a fona
[21:51] <Voop> i dont have the 3g one
[21:51] <Voop> but the 2g one works really well
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[21:54] <bwe> When do I want 3g if I only want to receive SMS?
[21:55] <Voop> if you only want sms, i dont think 3g matters
[21:55] <bwe> Will network coverage make any difference to me then?
[21:55] <Voop> although there arent a lot of 2g lines left (in the us at least)
[21:55] <Voop> currently only tmobile i believe
[21:56] <Voop> well it depends where you are
[21:56] <Voop> check the tmobile heatmap
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[21:57] <Voop> if you only want texting i think they make a cheap version that is just gprs (calling/texting) without gps
[21:57] <Voop> and 2g
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[21:58] <Voop> youll need service through tmobile. if you arent sending a ton of texts you should get a ting sim
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[21:59] <Voop> its tmobile and around $6 per month
[21:59] <mrsci> fether fona breakout works great on tmobile
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[22:00] <steve_rox> why we have to pay so much to send less than 1kb data in sms- insane
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[22:00] <Voop> i think its $3 per 100 texts or something
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[22:01] <Voop> no
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[22:02] <Voop> $3 for 100, $5 for 1000, $8 for 2000
[22:02] <Voop> and so on
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[22:02] <bwe> Voop: Thanks!
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[22:03] <ryden> Hi! I am developing a kernel USB driver for a gamepad. I made it work on my PC/Linux, but when I connected the device to my raspberry pi 3 I get very bogus data from the USB and totally breaks. Has anyone else experienced something like this before?
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[22:57] <r3> I have a little development board here that connects via WiFi to my internal LAN. I am able to lock it up at will by sending an HTTP request to it. I've reported this to the company the makes the development board, and they replied that "it sounds like a router problem". Is that in any way possible or is it just so much bull-pocky? The board is *supposed* to handle HTTP requests, it
[22:57] <r3> is the only way it has to communicate with the outside world...
[22:59] <Berg> I doubt your router will make your board lock up
[22:59] <Berg> what version board do you have raspberry pi 3?
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[23:00] <r3> er, no, it's a non-PI development board, but I am using it in a Pi-related project even if it is not directly connected to the Pi.
[23:00] <Berg> well what is the board and how is it connected to the pi?
[23:01] <Berg> wifi?
[23:01] <r3> I was just wanting a confirmation that I am not crazy and that blaming a WiFi Router for another piece of hardware locking up is foolish
[23:01] <lopta> r3: That's often the way with proprietary products.
[23:01] <r3> Berg: through WiFi
[23:01] <Berg> do other hardware lock up because of your router?
[23:01] <r3> lopta: what is the way? That they would blame anything else rather than their product?
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[23:01] <r3> Berg: nope, works flawlessly
[23:02] <Berg> go back to them
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[23:03] <r3> ... the router works fine and is even a rather good one used in hotels and medium size hotspots ... if I tell them that I've a LinkSys router, my bet is that they will tell me to go try a Netgear... is there really any way that this is remotely plausible?
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[23:04] <[Saint]> Good morning/day/afternoon/night.
[23:04] <lopta> r3: That and a general unwillingness or inability for them to fix it.
[23:05] <Berg> if it is advertised to work as you have used it then it is their product failure
[23:05] <r3> lopta: yeah, I think that the whole "your Wifi is the problem" is BS
[23:06] <Berg> i think yuour correct r3
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[23:07] * lopta nods
[23:07] <r3> thanks, I appreciate the sanity check
[23:08] <Berg> they often make you boubt your self to get out of trouble
[23:08] <oq> you're probably talking to some dumbass customer support rep
[23:08] <Berg> reboot your car that will for you lawn mower not starting
[23:08] <Berg> fix your
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[23:11] <lopta> erm... 49 perhaps.
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[23:29] <phinxy> rspi3 or a Chineese offbrand android box?
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[23:31] <phinxy> to run Kodi at 720p
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[23:49] <TunaLobster> Setting up iptables rules. What interface do daemons (such as transmission or minidlna) use to reach the outside world?
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[23:55] <Inspiral> I've connected a motor to the GPIO on the pi using a 'hello world' example. I'd like to be able to have it rotate forward and back but I don't know the name of what to search for to find help on this. Can someone suggest a search phrase?
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[23:55] <Inspiral> To note, I can drive the motor in one direction using 'gpio' from cli
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[23:57] <Berg> umm you running a motor straight off the gpio pins nothing between the pi and motor Inspiral ?
[23:57] <Inspiral> nah it's an led but was to be a motor
[23:57] <Inspiral> I figured it as 'motor controller' so i've got a page up
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[23:58] <Inspiral> it notes i'm not to connect a motor directly too as I guess you were about to say
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[23:58] <Inspiral> https://business.tutsplus.com/tutorials/controlling-dc-motors-using-python-with-a-raspberry-pi--cms-20051
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[23:58] <Inspiral> going to go with this,
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[23:59] <Berg> :)
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[23:59] <Berg> i was yes
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