#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2016-12-18

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[0:59] <k_j> hi
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[1:10] <sware> Anyone know if packages from http.us.debian.org/debian that are for arm Jessie will work okay with the raspberry pi?
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[1:25] <julius> sware, na there was a problem with debian arm and rpi arm....dont know if they fixed that
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[1:27] <Newyorkadam> I'm trying to make a keurig controlled by a raspberry pi but I'm not sure where to start. assuming I can get the keurig open, how would I control it from the pi?
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[1:31] <SpeedEvil> Several ways.
[1:31] <SpeedEvil> you can either gut the existing control and replace it with the pi, and appropriate relays and sensors.
[1:31] <SpeedEvil> Or youcan wire stuff across the buttons to activate it
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[2:06] <redrabbit> are there battery modules for the pi that act like a real laptop battery with stats on upower -d
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[2:07] <redrabbit> energy-full-design energy-full-design, actual power draw
[2:07] <redrabbit> battery control modules to be precise
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[2:26] <SpeedEvil> redrabbit: interesting idea.
[2:31] <redrabbit> i wonder if it exists already
[2:31] <redrabbit> something with charging gestion from multiple power sources
[2:31] <redrabbit> like solar pannels
[2:31] <redrabbit> small windmills
[2:31] <redrabbit> :p
[2:32] <redrabbit> or regular dc
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[2:34] <DWKnight> a charge state controller for the pi side
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[2:34] <DWKnight> and a regular charge controller per power source on the charging side
[2:37] <DWKnight> if you can read the battery state on the pi side, whatver happens to charge the battery probably doesn't matter
[2:37] <redrabbit> i want to build a small water tight box with solar pannel, 3G key, wlan0 adapters, battery and solar pannel
[2:37] <DWKnight> as far as I know, as long as the charge controllers all share an output voltage level, you can connect them parallel
[2:38] <redrabbit> would be cool to see real time input on the charge
[2:38] <DWKnight> to the batteries
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[2:38] <redrabbit> yes
[2:39] <DWKnight> so if your battery pack could be monitored by the pi on top of it, you're set
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[2:41] <redrabbit> that would be awesome
[2:41] <redrabbit> it would shut itself down if low battery ect
[2:41] <redrabbit> and recharge
[2:42] <redrabbit> then it powers itself 5 minutes every two hours to you have a window to reach it and keep it on
[2:43] <redrabbit> id have to use an external module to wake the pi probably
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[2:43] <redrabbit> with the pi0 maybe i can afford to run 24/7 but i don't know
[2:43] <redrabbit> i dont want to use big solar panel
[2:46] <redrabbit> 3g key + wifi + webcam is gonna draw
[2:48] <sware> julius: Thanks I'll look into it
[2:48] <DWKnight> what sort of wattage panel range are you looking at using?
[2:48] <redrabbit> i don't know yet
[2:48] <redrabbit> put the size is gonna be most important
[2:49] <redrabbit> it has to be small
[2:49] <redrabbit> like no more than 20x20cm
[2:49] <DWKnight> what you're looking at is going to need to be about 15-20w minimum
[2:49] <redrabbit> not if i dont run the machine 24/7
[2:50] <redrabbit> and i will shut down wifi 3G webcam when not used
[2:50] <DWKnight> that's just to run it during the day
[2:50] <redrabbit> its fine if i only use it once ina while
[2:50] <DWKnight> fully loaded pi3 is about 12-14w
[2:50] <redrabbit> every 2h it wakes automatically
[2:50] <redrabbit> take a pic with the cam
[2:50] <redrabbit> wait 5 mintes for me then shuts down if nobody connects
[2:51] <redrabbit> i can put a subtantial battery pack
[2:51] <redrabbit> it will be slow to charge but thats ok
[2:55] <DWKnight> you can fit upwards of about 30w of solar panel in your size limit
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[2:56] <redrabbit> not bad
[2:57] <redrabbit> i'm gonna go for smallest reasonable size
[2:57] <redrabbit> do you know good sources for pannels in europe ?
[2:57] <DWKnight> nope
[2:57] <redrabbit> what would be good is a water tight enclosure with the solar pannel embeded
[2:57] <redrabbit> with proper seals
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[4:05] <dreadkopp> hey guys. just found gpio and that it supports PWM. however couldn'T find any info what's the max. frequency?
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[5:20] <magic-madrigal> Hi guys
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[5:29] <llamapixel> redrabbit: maybe marine or yachting stores have water tight containers
[5:31] <llamapixel> http://www.ebay.com/bhp/waterproof-box
[5:31] <llamapixel> redrabbit: ^
[5:34] <magic-madrigal> Has anyone seen a project that takes a rasberry-pi with an audio input and casts the audio recived to the chromecast network live?
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[5:42] <redrabbit> no solar pannels on these stho
[5:42] <redrabbit> though
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[5:47] <llamapixel> It sounds like you want something especially made for the first prototype redrabbit
[5:48] <redrabbit> prolly some 3d print
[5:48] <redrabbit> and silicone for the water proofing
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[5:48] <redrabbit> with screws to open/close properly
[5:48] <llamapixel> I would consider using whatever works as the prototype so you can visualise and measure something better.
[5:48] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
[5:48] <redrabbit> yeap im gonna just use two ziplocks for the proto
[5:48] <llamapixel> ^^
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[5:51] <redrabbit> atm i use the pi with a power brick and a wlan adaptor put together with uhu tac
[5:52] <redrabbit> works nicely and makes a tight looking package
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[5:54] <llamapixel> hehe
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[5:55] <llamapixel> Solar and cpu want different temp environments so consider the heat as my only insight.
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[5:57] <redrabbit> rpi dont heatup much
[5:58] <redrabbit> and i dont live in a very hot place either
[5:58] <redrabbit> especially the rpi0
[5:58] <redrabbit> still have to source one
[5:58] <redrabbit> atm i beta test with the pi3
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[6:11] <llamapixel> I use rpi3 in a hot place ( Australia )
[6:13] <Zeno`> where in AU?
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[6:16] <redrabbit> www.ebay.com/itm/oink-oink/252532341270
[6:17] <redrabbit> that solar pannel seems good
[6:17] <redrabbit> its small and cheap
[6:17] <llamapixel> Sydney
[6:17] <redrabbit> that + power pack and pi0 > good
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[6:23] <redrabbit> i just need to find a power regulator for the battery pack with 5V input for charging and stats delivered to the pi via gpio
[6:24] <zoite> what can i build while waiting for parts for my build?
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[6:30] <redrabbit> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/abelrodriguez/pisolman-raspberry-pi-zero-solar-energy-management
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[6:30] <redrabbit> wow what a ripoff
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[6:30] <redrabbit> 50e for that seriously
[6:30] <redrabbit> :c
[6:31] <redrabbit> id buy it for 20
[6:31] <redrabbit> tops
[6:36] <Ben64> use the adafruit thingy
[6:37] <redrabbit> which one
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[6:38] <Ben64> forget the name : /
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[6:51] <Newyorkadam> hi guys — i’m new to electronics/raspberry pis and am currently trying to interact with a keurig’s logic board. here are some pictures: http://imgur.com/a/If71O
[6:51] <Newyorkadam> I was wondering what you guys recommend for interacting with the board using a pi.
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[9:21] <phasip> Is there any hardware accelerated video player for rpi that supports dvd menus?
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[9:39] <mfa298> I think you can compile vlc yourself to get hardware acceleration, but the packaged version might not have it
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[9:41] <mfa298> the other question then is whether the required hardware decoding is licensed or not (I can't remember what dvd uses or whether that's something licensed by default or not)
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[9:44] <ellooku> are there anyway to run seamonkey on raspbian jessie?
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[10:42] <thecha> Hi, ##raspberrypi, please, excuse my demand on your valuable time and attention: I want to use a RPI to run a server or personal home cloud (I mean an in house server which i only want to be a ailable to all my devices in house not to the rrest of the world); and i want to use the gnu/linux distro Trisquel 7 on it, can i just instlal trisquel 7 and then connect the rpi to my router and then connect the rpi via usb2.0 to the external hdd?
[10:43] <thecha> my second imposition on your patience and generosity: can i run a raspberry pi without a casing or will the electrostatic destory my device then?
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[10:52] <Lartza> thecha, You can't run Trisquel and I'd strongly recommend a case
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[10:53] <thecha> Lartza why cannot I run trisquel?
[10:53] <Lartza> There is no version of it for the Pi
[10:53] <thecha> there needs to be a version specifically made fo rpi?
[10:53] <Lartza> Yes and no
[10:53] <thecha> so you cannot put any old gnu/linux on there?
[10:54] <thecha> lartza if yes and no, what are the constraints?
[10:54] <Lartza> Pi is ARM, so it does not support regular PC binaries
[10:54] <thecha> so it needs some non regular bianrie?
[10:54] <thecha> an arm complient biary... sort of a different encoding?
[10:54] <Ben64> it needs arm binaries
[10:54] <Lartza> Yes and no = If you at least get a generic ARMv7 version of a distro you could make it work with the foundation kernel most likely, but preferably you'd have a RPi version specifically
[10:54] <Ben64> different cpu architecture
[10:55] <Ben64> easy mode = use raspbian
[10:55] <thecha> i see can you convert to arm a converntional personal omputer binary?
[10:55] <Ben64> you can't
[10:55] <thecha> Ben64→ Lartza btw thank you for helping me!!!!
[10:55] <Lartza> thecha, Why Trisquel?
[10:55] <thecha> is there any entirely free gnu/linux distro that can run on rpi?
[10:56] <thecha> Lartza→ becasue it is entirely free as in freedom
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[10:56] <Ben64> then you shouldn't use a raspberry pi at all
[10:56] <Ben64> it's not completely free
[10:56] <thecha> you mean the hardware?
[10:56] <Lartza> The firmware supporting the hardware
[10:56] <Ben64> yep
[10:56] <thecha> oh
[10:56] <Lartza> And the hardware too yeah
[10:57] <thecha> too late i already spent a lot of money to buy one
[10:57] <Ben64> then just run raspbian
[10:57] <Ben64> :D
[10:57] <thecha> :/
[10:57] <thecha> ty friends
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[10:57] <Lartza> But if you insist on a free distro... I'm not sure if you can run some other
[10:57] <thecha> appreciate the time yout took to help me
[10:57] <Lartza> The libre kernel isn't probably supported so
[10:57] <thecha> lartza is it possible for the community to work on a free version of the firmware?
[10:58] <thecha> or is ti alll closed up and under proprietary licences?
[10:58] <Lartza> There are some efforts but it's never going to be 100% open afaik
[10:58] <Ben64> there's gotta be a point where you just want to get something done
[11:00] <Lartza> thecha, Your best bet on RPi is unofrtunately to maybe run Debian/Raspbian and try to avoid non-free etc but some of the RPi packages belong to those repos afaik
[11:00] <Lartza> *unfortunately
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[11:01] <thecha> Lartza indeed very unfortunate...it didnt occur to me that there wasa possibility that non-free is amust ona modern computer
[11:01] <Lartza> Not on a computer if you don't care about some lost functionality, but ARM is a different thing completely
[11:01] <thecha> will try the debian route but i dont know if there is a ny point to it if the boot up depends on non-free
[11:01] <mobyduck> I was planning to make a RetroPi console from one of my old model Bs, but ran into unexpected trouble: wife + copyright laws
[11:02] <thecha> maybe i shoudl jsut runa n old desktop to run my server instead ... thanks anyways !!!!
[11:02] <mobyduck> in a nutshell, she doesn't want me to do anything illegal, and there aren't really ways to get ROMs legally...
[11:03] <mobyduck> so now I wonder what kind of gaming machine I can turn my Pi into with games I can get hold of legally
[11:03] <mobyduck> I know Minecraft works, but what else?
[11:03] <Lartza> thecha, There seem to be a few free distros that support ARM but not RPi specifically so it's not going to be easy trying to use the non-libre RPi kernel on them probably
[11:03] <Lartza> Not sure
[11:03] <Lartza> mobyduck, Minecraft works??
[11:04] <Lartza> Oh yeah they made the Pi version...
[11:04] <mobyduck> Lartza: I'm not sure how well it works, but it's what people tell me :)
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[11:04] <Lartza> It's based on an old version of the pocket edition so it works
[11:05] <mobyduck> ah
[11:05] <Lartza> But it never got updated it seems
[11:05] <mobyduck> I've hardly played minecraft at all since version 1.0, so I guess I have an idea of what you can do in it
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[11:05] <llamapixel> that google thing is great https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51794
[11:05] <Lartza> Creative mode only though, not all blocks are in it that were in 1.0
[11:06] <mobyduck> ah
[11:06] <mobyduck> no survival mode? wtf...
[11:06] <Lartza> lol
[11:06] <Lartza> It's an education tool and a gimmick, the pocket edition does have survival nowadays I think...
[11:07] <Lartza> I'd just get some ROMs
[11:07] <Lartza> What is she so against in it?
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[11:08] <mobyduck> Lartza: it's illegal? Downloading ROMs is copyright infringement. I'm aware that most IP holders are either unknown or don't really care (haven't seen Nintendo trying to sue anyone for downloading or even making ROMs), but it's still illegal
[11:08] <mobyduck> There are probably some ROMs that are legally available, but I wouldn't know which ones
[11:09] <Lartza> Not many
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[11:09] <mobyduck> and Mario, Zelda and other popular games are guaranteed to *not* be legal
[11:09] <llamapixel> The rom police will come knocking.
[11:09] <mobyduck> llamapixel: haha
[11:09] <Lartza> Who sells the games legally then for you to play?
[11:10] <llamapixel> They will put you away with the other hardened napster criminals.
[11:10] <mobyduck> Lartza: I could buy an XBox, if that's what you mean. Kinnda defeats the purpose though
[11:10] <Lartza> Xbox? Xbox doesn't have roms or emulate on the Pi
[11:10] <llamapixel> If you consider searching in google, there is a plethora of free content.
[11:10] <mobyduck> llamapixel: you and I are in agreement here; no harm, no foul. But it *is* defacto illegal, and I've promised my wife to not do it
[11:10] <Lartza> I disagree with de facto illegal
[11:11] <mobyduck> Lartza: you mean I can buy ROMs legally somewhere?
[11:11] <Lartza> Can you buy the cartidges legally?
[11:11] <Lartza> From the developers, publisher
[11:11] <llamapixel> If you own the motherboard you own a copy of the rom but different countries have different fair use
[11:11] <Lartza> Ever heard of Abandonware?
[11:11] <Lartza> Fair use?
[11:11] <Lartza> 0% chance of getting caught?
[11:12] <Lartza> I mean, it's just illogical in a sense, Nintendo etc sold these games over 20 years ago, they are done, they can't be purchased anymore
[11:12] <llamapixel> Adabondware is different again.
[11:12] <Lartza> Emulators are legal, the roms are in my mind grey area
[11:13] <mobyduck> Lartza: Abandonware only means the IP holder is unknown or doesn't care. It doesn't mean that the IP holder has given permission. And again, the chance of getting caught is not the issue
[11:13] <llamapixel> Technically the contents of the software on the rom has been duplicated and dispersed for counter measures to you purchasing a second hand copy.
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[11:14] <Lartza> mobyduck, I just find it illogical, if there was a law that banned IRC but nobody enforced wouldn't you be on this channel?
[11:14] <llamapixel> I seriously doubt your wife goes through life without ignorantly breaking some laws yet puts her foot down on this lol
[11:15] <Lartza> Chipping or hacking your new console to sideload ISO's... screw that go buy your games
[11:15] <llamapixel> Did you see the link above btw?
[11:15] <Lartza> Playing a game released in the 80's, sue me
[11:15] <llamapixel> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/tag/games/ Another one is here.
[11:15] <Lartza> That list is horribly structured
[11:16] <llamapixel> Is your wife going to audit the game list once a night mobyduck ;)?
[11:16] <Lartza> Why not just look at something like https://lgdb.org/ and ignore the ones that look too nice to run on the Pi
[11:16] <llamapixel> Honey let’s sit down and audit your game pi before bed ok
[11:16] <mobyduck> I don't argue the morality. In my mind getting the ROMs is a no-brainer. The legality is pretty clear, though.
[11:16] <Lartza> Screw the legality
[11:16] <mobyduck> And I'm looking for *legal* options
[11:16] <Lartza> Buy the games and dump them yourself
[11:16] <llamapixel> One of us is a game developer ;) the rest are silly people with crazy ideas ;)
[11:17] <Lartza> See how long your wife likes you spending on the cartidges that cost 20-100 euros
[11:17] <Lartza> And the dumping hardware
[11:18] <Lartza> None of the developers get paid for it, or the publishers, just you get cartidges that collect dust and some private individuals profit
[11:18] <llamapixel> Pick from the current freeware if that is your restriction and test what works. https://itch.io/games/free/platform-linux
[11:18] <mobyduck> guys, seriously. I want to get games on my Pi so my kids can play. And I'm looking for legal options. That may be silly, but that's where I am
[11:18] <llamapixel> Use the links I posted then
[11:18] <mobyduck> llamapixel: thanks, I'll have a look
[11:18] <thecha> is there a free alternative to rpi?
[11:19] <thecha> and would it be illegal to remove the proprietary firmwar enad use your own free stuff on there? (i know i lack the skill to do so but in theory9
[11:19] <Lartza> mobyduck, We've thrown in legal options inbetween all the time... the forum list, lgdb.org and now itch.io :P
[11:19] <mobyduck> thecha: it would be perfectly legal to use other firmware.
[11:19] <mobyduck> Lartza: sorry, I missed a bunch of it
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[11:19] <mobyduck> reading through the log now
[11:19] <Lartza> thecha, Theory yes, the chip will still be propietary in spirit but
[11:19] <gordonDrogon> thecha, you own the hardware - you can do what you like with it.
[11:20] <Lartza> gordonDrogon, Can you? ;)
[11:20] <llamapixel> You can’t modify and sell it as something else but you can change firmware.
[11:20] <gordonDrogon> yes - in my country I can do what I like with what I own.
[11:20] <Lartza> I think in my country I can too but :P
[11:20] <gordonDrogon> if you're asking if I have the skills to re-write the firmware, then that's another matter.
[11:20] <Lartza> I also don't know what agreements the Pi comes with
[11:21] <llamapixel> global patents restrict onsell modification, home hobby stuff no worries.
[11:21] <thecha> Lartza the chip has firmware that cannot be changed and allows telemetrie or other stuff?
[11:21] <Lartza> No it was purely an EULA remark :P
[11:21] <Lartza> thecha, ... no
[11:21] <gordonDrogon> there is no eula.
[11:21] <Lartza> thecha, bootloader, GPU
[11:21] <thecha> llamapixel→ is it very difficult to change the firmware to a free version of it?
[11:21] <Lartza> amont other things
[11:21] <Lartza> Not really, there just isn't one
[11:21] <thecha> oh th gpu?
[11:21] <thecha> and the gpu contains the bootloader?
[11:21] <gordonDrogon> there is also no public/free documentation ...
[11:22] <thecha> llamapixel→ that is grat news
[11:22] <Lartza> thecha, Uhh no the Pi boots a bit weirdly...
[11:22] <gordonDrogon> the gpu contains code to read the FAT filesystem on the SD card... that's mostly all. it reads that code and executes it.
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[11:22] <gordonDrogon> although there are variants that can read that code via USB storage or PXE/network.
[11:22] <thecha> friends, may i please also ask how difficutl the purely techncial side of this would be? how difficult woudl ti be to make an entirely free firmware?
[11:23] <gordonDrogon> thecha, people have been trying for nearly 5 years now. So not easy is the answer.
[11:23] <thecha> grodon sowithout the docuemtnation you simply wont know how to write such a friemware?
[11:23] <gordonDrogon> that's more or less it.
[11:23] <gordonDrogon> some are reverse engineering it though and steps have been made.
[11:24] <thecha> gordonDrogon→ and if they have been trying for years chances are they may never archivese their goal
[11:24] <llamapixel> undocumented hardware would involve reverse engineering before any advancement in a new rom
[11:24] <thecha> gordonDrogon→ but that measn they are working back from the itnernal singals and to the hypthetical code?
[11:24] <gordonDrogon> thecha, I've no idea and no intererst. Start googling...
[11:24] <llamapixel> well documents you are not allowed to get at, in this point in time.
[11:25] <thecha> thanks i udnersatn now,
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[11:28] <llamapixel> does any android flavour run well yet for pi?
[11:28] <Lartza> Ehh, why would you want to is another question? :P
[11:29] <llamapixel> I like to tinker.
[11:29] <Lartza> Google was supposed to make an official thing but I don't know what happened to it
[11:30] <Lartza> RTAndroid is the only one I know and I've never used it nor know how well it runs
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[12:21] <g105b> I'm having trouble reading a pulse using GPIO. I think the pulse of voltage is too quick to read - is there any advice you can give me to read short pulses on a GPIO pin?
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[12:25] <divadsn> g105b, Python?
[12:25] <divadsn> or which language are you using to control GPIO pins?
[12:25] <g105b> divadsn: I am currently using Python, but I don't mind if there is an alternative solution.
[12:26] <Habbie> g105b, are you reading it very often hoping to catch the pulse? or are you using triggers?
[12:26] <divadsn> Hmm, wait, I look into the docs for any notes about that ://
[12:26] <g105b> Habbie: I'm using in infinite loop in python so far, just waiting for the voltage to change.
[12:26] <Habbie> g105b, ok, switch to triggers/interrupts :)
[12:26] <g105b> It's getting 100% CPU usage but it's not catching all of the pulses.
[12:26] <Habbie> uhuh
[12:26] <Habbie> that's how it goes
[12:27] <g105b> It's a generator, pulsing for every kW generated.
[12:27] <Habbie> kWh i presume
[12:27] <Habbie> so you can do two things
[12:27] <Habbie> you can add a circuit that 'holds' the pulse for you until you clear it
[12:27] <Habbie> or you can start using interrupts
[12:27] <g105b> Can interrupts catch very short blasts?
[12:27] <Habbie> yes
[12:28] <g105b> I think that might be the best bet then. I'll have a google around, thanks.
[12:28] <Habbie> and your CPU usage will drop massively
[12:28] <g105b> That's good to know.
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[12:31] <g105b> Does python support interrupts or do I need to use C?
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[12:32] <Habbie> g105b, what python lib are you using?
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[12:43] <g105b> hmmm, GPIO ?
[12:43] <g105b> It's the one that comes preinstalled on Raspbian, Habbie
[12:43] <Habbie> what does your import line say
[12:44] <g105b> import RPi.GPIO as GPIO
[12:44] <Habbie> ok
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[12:44] <g105b> Python isn't my usual language so I'm not sure about some of the basics.
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[12:44] <g105b> i.e. not too sure where the libraries actually are...
[12:45] <Habbie> if i have to guess that one can't do it
[12:45] <Habbie> but gpiozero can
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[12:52] <g105b> Habbie: thanks for your advice, it has helped me get a working bit of code really easy ... i just needed to know what to search for.
[12:53] <Habbie> great
[12:54] <g105b> Not missing any pulses now, CPU is sticking to about 2% as opposed to 99.9% !
[12:54] <Habbie> perfect
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[12:56] <g105b> We're using Pis to replace a load of expensive proprietary boards on some hydroelectric turbines I've been working with recently... all a lot of fun.
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[12:58] <Habbie> g105b, that does sound like fun
[12:59] <Encrypt> g105b, What you're doing sounds fun
[12:59] <Encrypt> g105b, You'd better use C here I guess
[12:59] <g105b> Encrypt: I've found that python libraries are fine for my needs now.
[13:00] <g105b> The turbines kick a little pulse for every killowatt they generate. I was missing a lot of pulses when using an infinite loop.
[13:01] <Habbie> Encrypt, why?
[13:01] <Habbie> g105b, kilowatthour, i still presume?
[13:01] <g105b> Habbie: I'm not sure what you mean?
[13:02] <Habbie> g105b, you keep saying you get a pulse for every kilowatt they generate, but that makes no sense, do you mean a pulse for every kilowatthour they generate?
[13:02] <g105b> I'm measuring the power generation in killowatts. kWh can be calculated by counting the killowatts generated in an hour.
[13:02] <Habbie> this does not make sense to me
[13:02] <Habbie> but as long as it works for you, i'm happy :)
[13:02] <g105b> Habbie: ah ok I think I'm being dumb
[13:02] <Encrypt> +1
[13:03] <Encrypt> (For Habbie to be precise x) )
[13:03] <Habbie> :D
[13:03] <Encrypt> You can't count "power"
[13:03] <Encrypt> But you can "count" a discrete amount of energy
[13:03] <g105b> I'm aware of my lack of knowledge with power generation.
[13:04] <g105b> It's not my business, I'm a programmer :P
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[13:05] <Encrypt> Also: Habbie | Encrypt, why? // I guess interrupts are managed better using gordonDrogon 's amazing library wiringpi :D
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[13:06] <Habbie> Encrypt, for this purpose i don't see what it would add over (already working!) python code
[13:06] <Habbie> Encrypt, i do like me some wiringPi, to be clear
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[13:06] <Encrypt> And I've played a bit with RPi.GPIO to generate PWMs using python and threads
[13:06] <Habbie> pwm in userspace? brr
[13:06] <Encrypt> It becomes kinda unreliable at high CPU loads
[13:06] <Encrypt> Habbie, Yeah... :/
[13:06] <Habbie> just don't do that
[13:07] <Encrypt> I haven't figured out how to use the built-in generator using RPi.GPIO
[13:07] <Habbie> rpi.gpio is very limited
[13:07] <Encrypt> And the documentation of that library clearly isn't very good
[13:07] <Habbie> that too
[13:07] <Habbie> just switch to gpiozero
[13:08] <Encrypt> + it's hosted on sourceforge :x
[13:08] <Habbie> or wiringPi, of course
[13:08] <Habbie> yes, always a bad sign
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[13:10] <hypermist> i totally wish i could coat my house in led strips
[13:10] <hypermist> xD
[13:11] <Habbie> what's keeping you?
[13:11] <Encrypt> For Chrsitmas? :D
[13:11] <Habbie> my only problem is time ;)
[13:11] <Habbie> i did put a led strip in the tree
[13:11] <hypermist> Encrypt, yea and Habbie getting the led strips :P
[13:11] <Habbie> but it's not pi-controlled
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[13:11] <Encrypt> :]
[13:12] <hypermist> yea but sadly i can't get any shipped in
[13:12] <Habbie> really wanted to tie my guitar hero controller to the tre
[13:12] <Habbie> tree
[13:12] <hypermist> its to close to xmas :(
[13:12] <Habbie> maybe next year
[13:12] <hypermist> yea
[13:13] <hypermist> ws2812's will probs do what i want
[13:13] <hypermist> those are controllable by pi's and arduino's ?
[13:13] <Habbie> yes
[13:13] <Habbie> on a pi, make sure you boot with hdmi connected or blacklist the pwm-based audio modules
[13:14] <hypermist> would be hard to do with no code experience
[13:14] <hypermist> but i bet i can do it
[13:14] <Habbie> people have done it all for you
[13:15] <Habbie> hypermist, https://pypi.python.org/pypi/rpi_ws281x is great
[13:15] <hypermist> i wonder how much it led's it'll take
[13:15] <hypermist> to coat my side of the house
[13:15] <hypermist> xD
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[13:16] <Habbie> depends on density, power, and if you can diffuse the light a bit
[13:16] <hypermist> i dont think neighbours would love me to much xD
[13:16] <hypermist> seeing bright ass led's shining right at them
[13:18] <hypermist> 72.14 for 5mx3
[13:18] <hypermist> \xD
[13:18] <hypermist> thats in nzd
[13:19] <hypermist> i'll probs need atleast 100w of power
[13:19] <hypermist> or more
[13:21] <g105b> Do it
[13:21] <g105b> Put it on youtube
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[13:27] <hypermist> i have to see how much $$$'s
[13:27] <hypermist> i get paid first
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[13:32] <g105b> My next project is to see if I can get some cheapo wifi light switches and fittings to automate the new house.
[13:34] <thecha> g105b→ how will you go about automating house?
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[13:34] <g105b> thecha: location of mobile devices within the wifi network
[13:37] * ozzzy doesn't see the use of an automated house
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[13:37] <g105b> ozzzy: me neither, mainly.
[13:37] <g105b> but warming up the boiler on the way home from work does appeal to me
[13:38] <thecha> ozzzy→ if you ever were too lazy to switch of the lights
[13:38] <g105b> also greeting you with light when you arrive, very useful in winter.
[13:38] <ozzzy> you don't have a smart thermostat?
[13:38] <g105b> ozzzy: i do not
[13:38] <ozzzy> ah
[13:38] <g105b> i have a pi
[13:38] <thecha> ozzzy→ if you ever were too lazy to manually turn on faucets or the shower
[13:39] <thecha> a smart house shoudl be smart enough to take out the trash by itself
[13:39] <ozzzy> that's what servants are for
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[13:40] <thecha> ozzy the servant will end up with your husband after the devorce
[13:40] <ozzzy> why would one need a divorce
[13:40] <thecha> of course afetre movies like her nothing is guranteed with a smart hosue
[13:41] <g105b> robot servants might also suffer from that risk
[13:41] <thecha> i see
[13:41] <g105b> robot servants might be better in bed
[13:41] <thecha> why servants in the first place?
[13:41] <g105b> filthy laziness
[13:42] <ozzzy> servants still work after the EMP takes out the automation
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[13:48] <SuperSeriousCat> Everyone needs a servant
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[14:54] <theparadoxer02> How to copy file through ssh connection?
[14:54] <theparadoxer02> I have connected my raspberrypi through ssh connection
[14:55] <Encrypt> scp <source> <target>
[14:55] <theparadoxer02> Not working
[14:55] <Encrypt> e.g. scp /home/me/myfile pi@
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[14:56] <theparadoxer02> Not from my computer to raspberry
[14:56] <theparadoxer02> From rasberrypi to my computer
[14:57] <Encrypt> Then, scp pi@ /home/me/myfile
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[15:05] <theparadoxer02> Okay done
[15:06] <Encrypt> :)
[15:06] <theparadoxer02> Is there any web interface for raspberrypi
[15:08] <Encrypt> If you have Nautilus, you can press: Ctrl + L and then type:
[15:08] <Encrypt> ssh://pi@ (for example)
[15:08] <Encrypt> IT will mount the remote file system locally
[15:16] <zZap-X> im thinking about building a pizero with a DAC board and running volumio on it
[15:16] <zZap-X> anybody tried volumio?
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[15:17] <Encrypt> Nope
[15:17] <zZap-X> volumio is a bit like the kodi of the audio world
[15:17] <zZap-X> looks awesome
[15:17] <zZap-X> https://volumio.org/
[15:18] <Lartza> How is it like Kodi?
[15:19] <zZap-X> well its not, but its for music only
[15:19] <Lartza> :P
[15:19] <Lartza> I mean it looks nice but I wouldn't compare it to Kodi
[15:19] <zZap-X> yeah
[15:19] <Lartza> More like Subsonic, Ampache
[15:19] <zZap-X> ok
[15:20] <Lartza> Ampache is kind of broken from my experience though and Subsonic is paid so great that something like Volumio exists
[15:20] <zZap-X> i wonder if them 2x have a smartphone app
[15:20] <zZap-X> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.volumio.moritz.volumiowebapp_release&hl=en_GB
[15:21] <zZap-X> i like the idea of being able to control a pizero with a smartphone app
[15:21] <Lartza> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.subsonic.androidapp
[15:21] <zZap-X> aye ok
[15:21] <Lartza> I mean Volumio is actually a bit different from what it seemed first
[15:25] <zZap-X> to make the most out of it you would need to mount nfs with music
[15:25] <zZap-X> from server
[15:26] <zZap-X> https://volumio.github.io/docs/Good_to_Knows/Mounting_an_NFS_Share
[15:26] <zZap-X> seems pretty easy
[15:27] <zZap-X> supports lots of DACS
[15:27] <zZap-X> https://volumio.github.io/docs/I2S_DACs/Adding_Compatibility_to_your_DAC.html
[15:27] <zZap-X> awesome
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[15:44] <HerculeP> you could use SFTP via filezilla or whatnot
[15:45] <HerculeP> oops, didn't scroll doen, sorry
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[16:25] <Lorduncan> hello brothers and sister
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[16:25] <_KaszpiR_> hi
[16:26] <Lorduncan> need some help with a temperature and humedity conected to GPIO and reading with python to make my inmoov talk the temperature
[16:26] <Lorduncan> inmoov is already talking and moving mouth while voice sound, SSH keyboard control to move eyes and stuff
[16:27] <Lorduncan> im useing Adafruit_Python_DHT to read temperature but i have some herrors
[16:27] <Lorduncan> errors*
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[16:28] <Lorduncan> any other library or "thing" to make this work?
[16:29] <_KaszpiR_> quick question for rpi begginner: two 16GB cards or one 32GB (to stay in the same moeny to spend)?
[16:30] <Lorduncan> _KaszpiR_: depends what u want to do
[16:30] <Lorduncan> i use to get the 16Gb and if i need store data, videos or stuff i use pendrives
[16:30] <_KaszpiR_> other storage will be via usb drive or nfs
[16:30] <Lorduncan> so i dont stress the SD card
[16:31] <Lorduncan> i have projects with 4GB and 8GB cards
[16:31] <Lorduncan> i prefer use small ones if i dont need the space
[16:31] <_KaszpiR_> I get the idea having second card will help to just be able to swap cards, so one is a 'working' and second is for more experimental stugg
[16:31] <_KaszpiR_> *stuff
[16:32] <Lorduncan> cuz they are easyer to make the backups with the Win32DiskImager
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[16:32] <_KaszpiR_> or maybe later I was thinking about pxe
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[16:32] <Lorduncan> thats good idea, but i use to experiment on the maind card, and make backups when everything is working
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[16:33] <Lorduncan> important is get a good speed sd card
[16:33] <Lorduncan> better 16GB Class 10 90MB/s than a 32Gb Class 4
[16:33] <_KaszpiR_> class 10 / uhs 1 should be enough
[16:33] <_KaszpiR_> even though the rpi afair is limited to something about 20MB/s
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[16:34] <Lorduncan> idk the limits, but better have ones with higher speed than get one limited to 20Mb/s
[16:35] <Lorduncan> u will notice the speed also when u do the backups, if u have a usb 3.0 reader
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[16:36] <Lorduncan> i bouth one 2 days ago and with a SD 48MB/s it was reading good stable on 40MB/s
[16:36] <Lorduncan> with the USB 3.0 reader i mean
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[16:38] <_KaszpiR_> yeah I know
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[16:42] <redrabbit> get class 10 U3
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[17:17] <UNIXn3rd> has anyone got a BSD (NetBSD or FreeD) to work with a RaspBerry Pi 3
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[17:44] <bipul> I have formated my sd card it's 16GB, now i don't know what to do next, neither i am able to see on my gnome terminal my sd card icon, just need a help, i completely new to this.
[17:44] <bipul> I am *
[17:48] <Encrypt> bipul, If you have a Raspbian Image
[17:49] <Encrypt> Identify the device corresponding to your SD Card
[17:49] <Encrypt> To do so, open a terminal and type: sudo blkid
[17:49] <bipul> Yes, i am able to identify the sd card via sudo fdisk -l
[17:49] <Encrypt> Good :]
[17:49] <Encrypt> bipul, Then, simply run:
[17:50] <Encrypt> sudo dd bs=1M if=/path/to/raspbian.img of=/dev/sdX
[17:50] <Encrypt> Where sdX is the device corresponding yto your SD card
[17:50] <Encrypt> Wait for it to finish and you're done :]
[17:50] <bipul> And what does bs stands here?
[17:51] <bipul> Encrypt, Thank you very much :)
[17:51] <Encrypt> bipul, bs specifies how many bytes to read and write at every "step"
[17:51] <bipul> oh oki.
[17:51] <Encrypt> It will read 1MB from the image and copy it to the SD Card
[17:51] <bipul> Once again thank you :D
[17:51] <Encrypt> It's recommended to use a value of 1M bedcause it's apparently faster
[17:52] <Encrypt> You're welcome :)
[17:52] <Encrypt> Also, don't forget to expand your filesystem once you've put the SD Card in the Pi
[17:52] <Encrypt> (sudo raspi-config -> Expand Filesystem)
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[17:53] <Encrypt> bipul, BTW, for your information, you didn't have to format the SD Card actually
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[18:29] <ignacio> Can I boot from usb in a raspberry pi?
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[18:39] <leftyfb> ignacio: short answer, no
[18:39] <leftyfb> ignacio: can you put your root on usb and reconfigure your boot configs to look at that instead of the SD card, yes
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[18:40] <leftyfb> ignacio: can you force the raspberry pi to boot from usb instead of the SD card permanently and never have the ability to boot from SD again, I heard it was possible but not recommended
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[18:40] <Habbie> leftyfb, the pi3 can do that; i have not heard why it would not be recommended
[18:40] <Habbie> leftyfb, it does not remove the ability to boot from SD
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[18:41] <leftyfb> Habbie: again, this is what I have heard and have no experience with it. Now I'm hearing slightly differently.
[18:41] <Habbie> :)
[18:41] <Habbie> i have not tried it myself to be clear
[18:41] <Habbie> but i don't really see the point compared to a readonly SD for just 100 mb of /boot
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[18:54] <bipul> Does anyone know how to connect RapberryPI to my laptop as screen to install OS.
[18:54] <bipul> My laptop is running Ubuntu OS.
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[18:55] <Habbie> bipul, there is no short answer to that
[18:55] <Habbie> bipul, but most OSes for pi come as a ready to run image, no need to run an installer
[18:55] <Habbie> bipul, what problem are you trying to solev?
[18:55] <Habbie> *solve
[18:56] <bipul> I am trying to connect with my laptop as a screen, to install raspberryPI https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/raspberry-pi-2/
[18:56] <Habbie> ok
[18:56] <Habbie> "You will need a keyboard, monitor or a serial cable plugged into the board to be able to go through the first boot process and complete device configuration."
[18:56] <Habbie> so two options
[18:56] <Habbie> (1) your laptop has hdmi in - this is extremely uncommon
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[18:56] <Habbie> (2) serial cable
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[18:57] <bipul> YES I HAVE
[18:57] <leftyfb> bipul: any particular reason you're trying to follow that tutorial and not just put the raspbian image on the SD card?
[18:58] <Habbie> bipul, you have what?
[18:58] <bipul> Yes i have install on my sd card via xzcat ~/Downloads/ubuntu-core-16-pi3.img.xz | sudo dd of=/dev/sdb bs=32M
[18:59] <leftyfb> bipul: also, you do understand Ubuntu core is not a regular desktop or headless OS.
[18:59] <bipul> I have hdmi cable, bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and ethernet cable
[19:00] <leftyfb> bipul: it's meant for developers of IoT or appliances. If you're looking to put ubuntu on your pi, then I would suggest trying Ubuntu server or Ubuntu mate. If you're just getting started with the pi, I would suggest sticking with the official Raspbian OS.
[19:01] <orb> why are you wanting to do things the hard way, bipul?
[19:01] <bipul> Yes, i have downloaded 2016-11-25-raspbian-jessie.img
[19:01] <Habbie> bipul, but do you have a hdmi monitor?
[19:01] <leftyfb> bipul: ok, so use that
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[19:01] <bipul> well now i need to formate again to my sd card/
[19:01] <bipul> ?
[19:02] <leftyfb> format, no. Reimage with the raspbian image, yes
[19:02] <bipul> Yes i have hdmi port on my laptop
[19:02] <Habbie> bipul, i did not ask that
[19:02] <Habbie> bipul, do you have a hdmi monitor?
[19:02] <leftyfb> bipul: the HDMI porn on your laptop is output, not input
[19:02] <leftyfb> oops
[19:02] <leftyfb> port*
[19:02] <leftyfb> lol
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[19:02] <bipul> leftyfb, for example.
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[19:04] <orb> ?
[19:05] <orb> bipul, it sounds like you need to locate the usual instructions for installing Raspbian.
[19:06] <orb> And you need a monitor with an HDMI input. Not a laptop.
[19:06] <Habbie> but with raspbian you won't need the monitor at all
[19:06] <Habbie> if you put the ssh file on
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[19:06] <orb> Well, how do you plan on seeing it when you boot it?
[19:07] <Habbie> ssh
[19:07] <leftyfb> bipul: use your raspbian image, dd that to your sd card, put sd card in pi, plug in pi to HDMI monitor. If you do not have an HDMI monitor, you can follow these instructions or google to find your pi's ip on the network and connect via ssh: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/ip-address.md
[19:07] <orb> Are you sure ssh is on by default?
[19:07] <Habbie> orb, no, you need to touch /boot/ssh
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[19:08] <orb> How would you find it on the network?
[19:08] <Habbie> that thing leftyfb linked should totally be updated for that
[19:08] <Habbie> orb, that's what leftyfb's link is for
[19:08] <orb> And, are you going terminal-only?
[19:08] <Habbie> in that case, yes
[19:08] <Habbie> or remote X, or VNC
[19:08] <orb> How will you enable those things?
[19:08] <Habbie> it all depends on what bipul wants and he/she has refused to tell us that so far
[19:08] <Habbie> over ssh
[19:09] <orb> This is going a very hard route.
[19:09] <leftyfb> orb: you just create a file on the SD card /boot partition called "ssh" with anything or nothing in it's contents to enable ssh
[19:09] <Habbie> orb, i disagree, i do this all the time
[19:09] <orb> oh ok, i'm not all that familiar with the nuances of raspbian
[19:09] <Habbie> it's not raspbian specific
[19:09] <Habbie> the same applies when you rent a VM somewhere
[19:09] <leftyfb> orb: technically, it's easier to set things up over ssh when following tutorials than it is with a keyboard a monitor. Copy and Paste doesn't work with a keyboard and monitor
[19:10] <Habbie> leftyfb, good point
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[19:10] <orb> I usually use Minibian which makes the install much lighter and has no X or WMs
[19:10] <Habbie> raspbian lite you mean?
[19:11] <orb> perhaps that's essentially the same thing
[19:11] <Habbie> apparently minibian is a fork
[19:11] <Habbie> i'd recommend raspbian lite instead
[19:11] <orb> ah
[19:11] <Habbie> more maintainers
[19:11] <orb> good to know
[19:12] <Habbie> latest raspbian images are 9 months newer
[19:12] <Habbie> and ship with ssh disabled now
[19:12] <Habbie> for very good security reasons
[19:13] <orb> i did just learn a couple of important things in my 10 minutes here :D
[19:13] <Habbie> good :)
[19:13] <Habbie> that's what we're here for
[19:13] <orb> the use of the /boot/ssh file and raspbian lite's existence
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[19:25] <theparadoxer02> What is the beat vnc viewer on linux
[19:26] <GekkePrutser> I prefer vinagre
[19:26] <theparadoxer02> I have installed vnc server to the raspverry now how to see its graphical version on linux?
[19:26] <GekkePrutser> Just connect to it with a vnc viewer
[19:27] <theparadoxer02> Vnc viewer on linux ?
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[19:28] <_KaszpiR_> remmina?
[19:28] <_KaszpiR_> or anything with SPICE
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[19:29] <_KaszpiR_> (but it requires SPICE compatible vnc server aswell)
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[19:33] <theparadoxer02> can we connect it with remote desktop connection ?
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[19:39] <leftyfb> no
[19:39] <leftyfb> theparadoxer02: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/vnc/
[19:39] <leftyfb> theparadoxer02: first result on google
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[19:42] <theparadoxer02> I have configured on raspberry
[19:42] <theparadoxer02> I am not able to configure the vlc client on my linux machine
[19:43] <theparadoxer02> How will i connect to to
[19:44] <Valduare> hey guys with raspberry pi zero’s http://amzn.to/2hxHuQ5 :) wifi/bluetooth combo for 12 bucks! throw a micro usb shim in an your set on te raspberry pi zero
[19:44] <ozzzy> if you're adding all that stuff... why are you using a 0
[19:45] <Valduare> this makes it so your “not adding alot of stuff”
[19:45] <Valduare> the zero has 1 usb port so you plug this in and can use blutooth keyboard/mouse and get on wifi
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[19:47] <ozzzy> can do that with a 3 without having to add anything
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[19:48] <Valduare> you could
[19:48] <Valduare> but thats not the point :P
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[19:57] <theparadoxer02> What is the best irc client for linux ?
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[20:00] <ignacio> theparadoxer02, hexchat?
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[20:03] <theparadoxer02> Okay
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[20:07] <Onanarchist> hexchat for gui, weechat for console :D
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[20:24] <_KaszpiR_> wondering if rpi 3 just with hdmi and sd card and kb would start on 1A power adapter
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[20:27] <gordonDrogon> there's a good chance it will.
[20:27] <gordonDrogon> providing it really is a 1A unit.
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[20:31] <bipul> OK finally i have installed 2016-11-25-raspbian-jessie.img on my sd card, and booted it.
[20:31] <bipul> Now what to do next? Any link ?
[20:31] <gordonDrogon> welcome to 2016. only a couple of weeks left :)
[20:32] <gordonDrogon> what do you want to do next?
[20:32] <bipul> I want to install it. I can see three directory, Desktop Document and Python_games
[20:33] <bipul> and lots of error messages after that
[20:35] <gordonDrogon> so the Pi is booted an you have screen & keyboard connected?
[20:36] <bipul> And now from here https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/linux.md where shall i move?
[20:36] <bipul> yes everything is connected
[20:36] <bipul> even ethernet cable to
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[20:36] <gordonDrogon> well that it - then. not sure where/what errors you're seeing as you've not told us, but it looks like its booted and running ok.
[20:37] <bipul> ping command is not there,no internet
[20:37] <bipul> i would like to install it on GUI with internet working
[20:37] <bipul> And how to reset the root password
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[20:38] <gordonDrogon> gui is normally there, as is ethernet/lan.
[20:38] <gordonDrogon> there is no root password by defaut - use sudo (or sudo -i to become root then set a password)
[20:38] <bipul> Yes, how to make internet working?
[20:38] <gordonDrogon> type: startx to start the gui.
[20:38] <gordonDrogon> internet is normally working out of the box.
[20:38] <gordonDrogon> if it's not, then you'll have to start poking about to see why.
[20:39] <bipul> startx is not working
[20:39] <gordonDrogon> maybe start by showing us the error messages. we can't see your screen.
[20:39] <bipul> Unable to connect to X server: Connection refused.
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[20:39] <bipul> ok let me give you snapshot
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[20:43] <gordonDrogon> can you describe the errors? were they e.g. fsck errors? or what?
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[20:45] <_KaszpiR_> gordonDrogon it is 1A, tested
[20:45] <gordonDrogon> _KaszpiR_, plug it in & see what happens then...
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[20:45] <_KaszpiR_> on the other hand, just ordered proper power adapter, led display and case
[20:46] <_KaszpiR_> now, gotta extract microSD from my ancient phone
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[20:46] <_KaszpiR_> oshit, looks like I do not have microsd usb reader
[20:46] <_KaszpiR_> :D
[20:46] <_KaszpiR_> m
[20:46] <_KaszpiR_> hm
[20:46] <_KaszpiR_> the digging continues
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[20:52] <bipul> gordonDrogon, http://imgur.com/a/QqPwr and http://imgur.com/a/4Ipyv
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[20:57] <bipul> I hope the above picture is clear to you.
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[21:00] <bipul> I think, my first priority is to setup internet connection.
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[21:01] <Dannyboy84> Hi could someone help me with the push module for znc installed on a raspberry pi 3
[21:01] <Dannyboy84> I have it installed but pushbullet notifications are not working
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[21:02] <pac1> I'm having trouble getting a pi-zero connected via usb to ubuntu for use with ssh. The problem appears to be on the ubuntu side where raspberrypi.local never shows up.
[21:02] <pac1> anyone with experience doing this on ubuntu?
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[21:04] <bipul> I think i am running with disk space issue.
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[21:05] <bipul> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=80219
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[21:09] <Encrypt> bipul, What happens if you run: df -h ?
[21:09] <bipul> Encrypt, Ok i made a restart , and then startx
[21:09] <bipul> i can see abnormal screen
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[21:09] <bipul> let me give you a screenshot
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[21:13] <bipul> Encrypt, http://imgur.com/a/Ajiot here is the imag
[21:13] <bipul> image
[21:13] <Encrypt> Wow
[21:13] <leftyfb> bipul: how big is the SD card you're using?
[21:13] <bipul> 16GB
[21:13] <bipul> why?
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[21:14] <bipul> How to reset the root password
[21:14] <leftyfb> bipul: something isn't right. Either the SD card is bad or it didn't resize properly or you didn't image it properly.....
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[21:14] <leftyfb> bipul: forget about root password for now ... you're not even close to needing that...
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[21:14] <leftyfb> bipul: how exactly did you image the SD card?
[21:14] <bipul> ok
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[21:15] <bipul> leftyfb, I have follow this instruction https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/linux.md
[21:15] <leftyfb> no
[21:16] <leftyfb> how did YOU do it? copy and paste what you typed
[21:16] <bipul> 81 sudo dd bs=4M if=2016-11-25-raspbian-jessie.img of=/dev/sdb
[21:16] <bipul> sudo dd bs=4M if=2016-11-25-raspbian-jessie.img of=/dev/sdb
[21:18] <bipul> leftyfb, Is that what you were looking for?
[21:18] <leftyfb> bipul: time to do it again.
[21:18] <Encrypt> bipul, Did you resize the partition then?
[21:18] <Encrypt> With raspi-config?
[21:18] <leftyfb> bipul: you have filesystem errors. That's not good. All sorts of things can go wrong
[21:18] <leftyfb> Encrypt: not necessary now. It does that on first boot and reboots
[21:18] <bipul> so what to do next?
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[21:19] <leftyfb> bipul: I would HIGHLY suggest redownloading the image and reimaging the SD card. Here's a quick and dirty way to image without spending time and disk space unzipping: unzip -p 2016-11-25-raspbian-jessie.zip | dd of=/dev/sdb bs=1M
[21:20] <bipul> leftyfb, sure let me try.
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[21:20] <leftyfb> bipul: make sure you're getting it from raspberrypi.org/downloads
[21:21] <bipul> OK
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[21:24] <Encrypt> bipul, Check the checksum too
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[21:33] <Lorduncan> hello
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[21:33] <Lorduncan> what you segest me to use to handle a temperature / humedity sensor with python?
[21:33] <Lorduncan> sugest*
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[21:42] <valeness> Hey all, I am looking for a small handheld keyboard like this https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0915/1182/products/mini_keyboard_1f27a4d4-2fd9-41c2-9dc8-269c6ee66456.jpeg?v=1442513012 But, I am wanting something with a small screen to hold the text in buffer before I send it to the pi. So that I can see what I'm typing before I send it.
[21:42] <valeness> Anything like that exists already or could someone point me to building it myself.
[21:44] <Lonefish> I don't really get the point?
[21:46] <Lonefish> Would be hard to find, since it's such a small public that would want this
[21:46] <Lonefish> I can't see any use to it myself
[21:47] <valeness> I have a backpack carrying a raspberry pi that I would want to control some of its functions with scripts. Thought it would be easiest to just send the command "sudo runscript.sh" via a bluetooth linked keyboard.
[21:48] <Lonefish> Hmm, I see
[21:48] <valeness> I saw a way to do it with my phone, sharing my data connection via usb. But couldn't work out the kinks with the connection tethering.
[21:49] <valeness> Then I could do it via any old ssh client app
[21:49] <Lonefish> Does the pi have wifi?
[21:49] <Lonefish> Otherwise, make an access point of it
[21:49] <Lonefish> connect with phone
[21:49] <Lonefish> ssh client
[21:49] <valeness> Ah, it does have a usb wifi adapter
[21:50] <Lonefish> or if you're feeling adventurous you could even write an app with nice buttons
[21:50] <valeness> That would be cool.
[21:51] <Lonefish> or even faster, no apps
[21:51] <leftyfb> valeness: why not use the GPIO and have a button on your backback send that script?
[21:51] <leftyfb> send/run
[21:51] <Lonefish> Create a web page on the pi, connect to the wifi of the pi, open up the webpage and make that webpage trigger scripts
[21:52] <Lonefish> leftyfb: Suspect he wants wireless
[21:52] <valeness> leftyfb: Seems like I would be limited to the harware that way. Making a new script would require a new button or rewriting an old script.
[21:52] <Lonefish> Was my first thought too tho
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[21:52] <leftyfb> valeness: so you won't have physical access to this backpack each and every time you want to kick off this script?
[21:53] <valeness> leftyfb: I would, what I mean is if I wanted a new function/script, I would have to wire in a new button.
[21:53] <valeness> As opposed to sshing in and writing the script and then just running it
[21:54] <leftyfb> valeness: I would think 2 buttons would be way easier than ssh'ing in and typing out a script name on a tiny keyboard that you keep where?
[21:54] <valeness> leftyfb: No, I would write the scripts at home, then run them with the keyboard.
[21:55] <valeness> It would be more convenient for use, but not if I want to write something in quick
[21:55] <leftyfb> also, i've used a makey makey hooked up to a pi to run things (in my case, sounds). Wiring up buttons or even pads to a backpack with that would be trivial.
[21:55] <valeness> hmm, makey makey?
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[21:56] <leftyfb> http://makeymakey.com/
[21:57] <leftyfb> valeness: it's basically a microcontroller that acts as a USB HID device (keyboard/mouse)
[21:57] <Habbie> makey is fun
[21:57] <leftyfb> you are limited in the keys you have to play with, not a fully keyboard, but great for kicking off actions
[21:58] <valeness> leftyfb: That actually looks really cool. Looking into it now, thanks :)
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[22:18] <swift110> hey all
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[22:21] <Valduare> hi
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[22:27] <deciduously> hey y'all - just noticed Arch ARM has released a tarball allowing a 64 bit kernel to run on the Pi 3, finally. however, it's a mainline kernel, not the Foundation's. I'm mostly excited about this to lift the MongoDB limit on a 32 bit system - but should I wait to jump in until there's an official Pi kernel build? How much stuff would I break by just switching to mainline?
[22:27] <deciduously> thanks!
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[22:30] <llamapixel> banana piano!
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[22:32] <gordonDrogon> bipul, sorry - been AFK. did you get it sorted? Looks like you have a bad SD card, or the write failed in some way.
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[22:38] <llamapixel> valeness: seen a few variants of that in Japan when at Yodobashi camera store
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[22:44] <llamapixel> I have my eye also on something like this for a game pad / keyboard / mouse combo
[22:44] <llamapixel> http://au.element14.com/qwerty/qk-90015/ultra-mini-keyboardpad/dp/2310262
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[22:46] <Tashtari> Hi all. Running raspbian on a Pi 2, which sysfs says is running at 700 MHz, but the wikipedia article says it runs at 900 MHz by default. Is it supposed to be underclocked by default?
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[22:48] <Tashtari> Either that or I'm a dope and this isn't a Pi 2.
[22:49] <Encrypt> Hum
[22:49] <Encrypt> I think you can find it out if you cat the config file in /boot
[22:49] <Encrypt> Or on the second partition, I don't remember
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[22:50] <Encrypt> Right, /boot/config.txt
[22:50] <Tashtari> looks like my original theory about being a dope was correct
[22:50] <Tashtari> oh well
[22:50] <Encrypt> #uncomment to overclock the arm. 700 MHz is the default.
[22:50] <Encrypt> Bingo
[22:51] <Tashtari> What are the risks to overclocking? Should I be trying to find a tiny heatsink to put on the soc?
[22:51] <Encrypt> Tashtari, Overheating the chip
[22:51] <Encrypt> And then having the magic smoke appearing
[22:51] <Encrypt> :D
[22:51] <Encrypt> Tashtari, But it should be fine
[22:52] <Encrypt> Tashtari, Run raspi-config, it has overclocking options
[22:52] <Tashtari> What are some common protective measures to take? I mean, do people just say "I want my pi to run faster", change the setting, and continue on their merry way? :D
[22:52] <bipul> I am facing this issue http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/57963/what-does-the-lightning-bolt-mean
[22:53] <bipul> Shall i stop my PI?
[22:53] <Tashtari> Or do they start worrying about cooling - and if so how much?
[22:53] <gordonDrogon> Tashtari, a modern raspbian/kernel will run a cpu governor to keep the clock speed low until it's needed then it will go full speed.
[22:53] <bipul> Is it bad sign? i don't understand what to do?
[22:53] <Tashtari> gordonDrogon: But will it throttle it back in response to heat or something?
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> bipul, it's low voltage - you need a better power unit.
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> Tashtari, yes - all Pi's will throttle back on overheating.
[22:54] <Tashtari> Ok, that's good to know...
[22:54] <bipul> Like i need to change the adaptor?
[22:54] <Tashtari> gordonDrogon: Assuming that's the case, though, is there any reason not to just pick 'turbo'?
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> for a Pi 2? I always thought they were maxed. at 900Mhz.
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> but I don't know.
[22:55] <Tashtari> Nah, turns out this is a 1+...
[22:55] <Encrypt> Tashtari, Do you really need overclocking?
[22:55] <Tashtari> Forgot when I had bought it, turns out it's longer ago than I thought
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> I run raspi-config and select turbo on Pi v1's ... not touched OC on a v2 or v3.
[22:55] <Encrypt> This is a question to think about
[22:56] <Tashtari> Encrypt: Well, I mean, dragging a window in raspian (or is it raspbian?) gets the CPU usage to 35%
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[22:56] <Tashtari> Some higher performance would be nice if I can swing it.
[22:57] <Encrypt> As long as it's below 100%...
[22:57] <llamapixel> cat /boot/config.txt
[22:58] <llamapixel> I heard if you are powering from usb port it can be half speed, is that true across all pidevices?
[22:58] <Encrypt> Wut
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[22:59] <Encrypt> llamapixel, You shouldn't do that anywya
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[22:59] <llamapixel> I am not, I just stumbled over that element when looking for speed elements.
[23:00] <llamapixel> Is it true across all pidevices was the question.
[23:00] <Encrypt> That seems weird to me
[23:00] <Encrypt> The speed shouldn't be affected by the powering method
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[23:06] <bipul> I Have Raspberry Pi3 Model B, i wants to know the power supply measurement what i have now is simple usb cable with adapter INPUT AC100-240V 50-60Hz OUTPUT:DC5V::::2.4A 12.0W
[23:08] <llamapixel> Encrypt: I will keep it in the unconfirmed column for now then.
[23:08] <llamapixel> appending one weird symbol to it in notes.
[23:10] <DWKnight> bipul: that power block should be suitable as long as you don't 100% fully load the pi with devices
[23:11] <bipul> DWKnight, I am sorry i don't get you?
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[23:11] <DWKnight> 2.5A output at 5v is only required for the pi3 when you have it loaded up with usb devices
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[23:12] <bipul> oki so it's fine? to run?
[23:12] <DWKnight> if all you're plugging in to it is a keyboard and mouse at most, definitely
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[23:36] <PSU_> is anyone running GMusicProxy on their pi? I am having issues installing using the instructions @ http://gmusicproxy.net. thanks!
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[23:42] <llamapixel> where did you get stuck PSU_ ?
[23:43] <PSU_> "install it and all the dependencies using sudo pip install -r requirements.txt from the inside of the folder"
[23:43] <PSU_> getting an error during that install
[23:43] <PSU_> let me paste
[23:44] <PSU_> Command python setup.py egg_info failed with error code 1 in /home/pi/gmusicproxy/build/python-daemon
[23:48] <PSU_> i installed all of the pre-reqs and am following the instructions here - http://gmusicproxy.net/#gmusicproxy-google-play-music-proxy-setup-installation
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[23:48] <PSU_> llamapixel: Anything that we need to do different for the pi?
[23:49] <HrdwrBoB> http://i.imgur.com/eMHbuiD.jpg <- After.... a very long time. .. My pi is somewhat working. Talking to an arduino to get the data over serial (over USB) and using pygame to display it
[23:51] <ali1234> HrdwrBoB: i highly recommend using Qt to make info screens like that instead of pygame, it's way easier
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[23:51] <HrdwrBoB> easier
[23:51] <HrdwrBoB> ?
[23:51] <HrdwrBoB> it's like.. I dunno, 20 LOC?
[23:52] <ali1234> yeah
[23:52] <HrdwrBoB> also it already works :P
[23:52] <ali1234> QML also gives you pretty gauges for free
[23:53] <bipul> Now i am wondering what to do with raspberrypi :D
[23:53] <HrdwrBoB> plus that's my "this needs to work by tomorrow" version, I'll probably make it very different
[23:53] <HrdwrBoB> ali1234: interesting, that might be worth it
[23:53] <ali1234> in fact in-vehicle information displays is one of the example apps
[23:53] <ali1234> or it was
[23:53] <ali1234> http://doc.qt.io/QtQuickEnterpriseControls/qml-qtquick-enterprise-controls-circulargauge.html
[23:54] <ali1234> hmm enterprise controls? i dont remember that. sounds a bit commercial
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[23:57] <ali1234> someone made a free one: https://lemirep.wordpress.com/2014/03/24/car-dashboard-project/
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[23:58] <HrdwrBoB> taht looks pretty cool
[23:58] <HrdwrBoB> I also have a 128x96 OLED display in the dash
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[23:59] <ali1234> its very easy to build the UI with QML. you just create a class which exposes the numbers you want and connect it up
[23:59] <ali1234> your class should talk to the arduino
[23:59] <ali1234> class has to be C++ though (or it's easier if it is)
[23:59] <HrdwrBoB> uugh
[23:59] <HrdwrBoB> yeah

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