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IRC Log for 2016-12-31

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[0:48] * Topic is 'Unofficial RaspberryPi IRC channel but "Blessed" by the Foundation as the ONE channel. | Logs: http://srv.datagutt1.com | Rules: https://goo.gl/h5qPhz'
[0:48] * Set by gordonDrogon!~gordon@2001:4d48:ad51:8901::2 on Sat Dec 24 16:04:53 CET 2016
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[1:19] <nikre> i suspect my es9023 dac is dead. it is listed on aplay-l. i tried aplay and speaker-test but i dont hear anything. any suggestions?
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[1:29] <swift110> hey all
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[1:36] <unitypunk> can you run android tv on a pi 3?
[1:37] <durrf> https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-android-tv-in-raspbery-pi/
[1:37] <unitypunk> mmm
[1:37] <unitypunk> thanks
[1:38] <unitypunk> so it is possible.
[1:38] <unitypunk> neat.
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[1:38] <unitypunk> durrf, have you done it yourself, or are you jsut throwing a link at me?
[1:38] <durrf> i just googled for your question
[1:39] <unitypunk> derp :)
[1:39] <unitypunk> well thnaks.
[1:39] <durrf> lol
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[1:42] <BurtyB> the magic of google :)
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[1:45] <unitypunk> well BurtyB i had seen something online, but was looking for more user input
[1:46] <unitypunk> chat>reading
[1:46] <unitypunk> ive read the same guides 100 times and gotten shit results
[1:46] <unitypunk> and then talked about it for 5 minutes with someone, and solved the problem.
[1:48] <axisys> which os is recommended for zero ?
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[1:48] <axisys> jessie pixel or jessie lite?
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[1:53] <plugwash> depends on what you want to do with said zero
[1:53] <plugwash> i,e, whether you actually want all the desktop stuff
[1:55] <axisys> plugwash: no.. just app.. may be alexa or weather forecast
[1:56] <axisys> as a confession, I never used any of them for desktop.. just ssh to them
[1:57] <DWKnight> interesting thought for a pi0 headless: the chromecast wired adapter
[1:58] <oq> DWKnight: the ethernet one? I have that with a pi, it works well
[1:58] <oq> *pi0
[1:58] <DWKnight> https://store.google.com/product/ethernet_adapter_for_chromecast
[1:58] <DWKnight> this thing
[1:58] <axisys> i do have chromecast .. but never used as chromecast.. interesting..
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[1:58] <oq> yeah, you plug it into the otg port and you have 1 cable with power+network
[1:59] <oq> it costs 3x the price of a pi0 though
[1:59] <DWKnight> if you're not in a region that has them available, you can sort of build your own
[1:59] <axisys> I also have a fire tv for amazon prime..
[1:59] <axisys> so I can actually cast from my android to pi0 chromecast?
[2:00] <axisys> inriguing.. any link for newbies?
[2:00] <axisys> intriguing..
[2:00] <DWKnight> that adapter was designed to allow you to do wired connection for your chromecast
[2:00] <DWKnight> instead of wireless
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[2:01] <DWKnight> the chipset is supported on the pi0, so you can use that adapter as a power supply + ethernet adapter in one for a pi0
[2:03] <axisys> DWKnight: gotcha
[2:03] <axisys> although I prefer wifi adapter
[2:04] <axisys> any available for pi0 ?
[2:06] <DWKnight> there's nothing with a micro-b usb connector that I can see
[2:06] <DWKnight> so you need to do usb otg adapter/cable to regular usb wifi
[2:07] <axisys> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1991736672/iot-hat-for-raspberry-pi-a-must-have-for-pi-zero/description looks interesting
[2:07] <DWKnight> there's also the redbear IoT hat for the pi0 as an option
[2:08] <axisys> :-)
[2:08] <DWKnight> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/38796/whats-the-smallest-wifi-connector-for-the-raspberry-pi-zero
[2:08] <axisys> DWKnight: yep
[2:09] <DWKnight> micro-b connectors are freaking rare, but at least they're not prohibitively expensive
[2:09] <DWKnight> https://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-zero-board/rpi-zero-accessories/pi-zero-wifi-micro-usb-wifi-dongle
[2:10] <DWKnight> ideally I'd want dual-band N support in any adapter I end up with now
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[2:13] <oq> DWKnight: better to buy s shim and put it in a regular wifi dongle than to buy a dongle you can only ever use on a pi0
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[2:14] <DWKnight> the really tiny OTG adapter is definitely the better route
[2:14] <DWKnight> for that purpose
[2:14] <axisys> so the redbear hat needs to be soldered in?
[2:15] <DWKnight> likely
[2:15] <axisys> hmm.. next best would be the tiny OTG adapter? what is OTG ? better google that
[2:16] <DWKnight> the stackechange thread I linked references one or two of them
[2:17] <axisys> so why need a otg adapter? why not just micro usb wifi adapter?
[2:17] <axisys> all my PIs are using usb wifi except pi3
[2:17] <DWKnight> because a micro usb wifi adapter can only be used with specific devices
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[2:19] <oq> axisys: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/usb-to-microusb-otg-converter-shim
[2:19] <oq> it takes up no extra space
[2:19] <oq> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0174/1800/products/usb-shim-4_1024x1024.jpg?v=1448626398
[2:20] <axisys> they don't have one in US shop or US online stores?
[2:21] <axisys> oq: ^
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[2:22] <DWKnight> http://www.instructables.com/id/Connect-Chrome-Cast-Via-Ethernet/ the parts for this will also probably work with the pi0
[2:22] <DWKnight> with the right combo of stuff, you could do a PoE pi0
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[2:30] <DWKnight> usbotg splitter cable, poe splitter, network adapter
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[2:33] <axisys> this looks right https://www.adafruit.com/products/2910 ?
[2:35] <XHFHX> I have a question regarding plex on a raspberry pi 3. I installed everything but I can't access the webpage, although the status says its running
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[2:36] <XHFHX> do i need to "route" the request somehow? i gave the raspberry a static ip via the router and ssh works
[2:38] <XHFHX> when i do a telnet on the port (32400) on the raspberry i get a connection
[2:43] <DWKnight> and http to the local ip?
[2:43] <DWKnight> axisys: yep
[2:44] <XHFHX> DWKnight: No :/
[2:44] <DWKnight> so http://<pi>:32400/ doesn't work?
[2:44] <XHFHX> right
[2:45] <DWKnight> bleh
[2:45] <XHFHX> "ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED" says chrome
[2:46] <leftyfb> http://<pi>:32400/web
[2:46] <XHFHX> the same
[2:47] <leftyfb> are you using rasplex?
[2:47] <leftyfb> I think the web interface is something you need to enable. Tried connecting with a mobile app?
[2:47] <XHFHX> this is the build i try to use: https://www.dev2day.de/typo3/projects/plex-media-server/
[2:47] <XHFHX> app doesnt find a server
[2:48] <leftyfb> pretty sure there's more to setting it up than what is on that page
[2:50] <XHFHX> mh
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[2:51] <XHFHX> maybe ill write a little flask server to see if i can reach the raspberry pi via http
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[2:52] <binaryhermit> XHFHX: which pi?
[2:52] <XHFHX> 3 model b
[2:52] <binaryhermit> ok, that's not the problem
[2:52] <XHFHX> with raspian lite
[2:53] <XHFHX> yeah, tried to get it running on a model b^^ that doesnt work :D
[2:53] <binaryhermit> because the 1 and zero are only armv6 compatible and that build is armv7 or arm64
[2:54] <binaryhermit> you're using the armv7 build, right?
[2:54] <binaryhermit> wait, nevermind
[2:54] * binaryhermit only skimmed the link
[2:55] <XHFHX> armv7 yes
[2:56] <XHFHX> flask server is responding
[2:57] <leftyfb> XHFHX: on the pi: sudo lsof -i :32400
[3:00] <XHFHX> mh damn - i cant copy from console2...
[3:01] <XHFHX> now
[3:02] <XHFHX> leftyfb: pi@raspberrypi3plex:~/test $ sudo lsof -i :32400
[3:02] <XHFHX> COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
[3:02] <XHFHX> Plex 1279 plex 54u IPv4 10958 0t0 TCP *:32400 (LISTEN)
[3:02] <XHFHX> Plex 1279 plex 58u IPv4 13636 0t0 TCP 192.168.0.101:32400->192.168.0.115:49633 (ESTABLISHED)
[3:02] <leftyfb> you have something connected to it
[3:02] <leftyfb> looks like anyeay
[3:02] <leftyfb> anyway*
[3:03] <XHFHX> oh right - the app just found something
[3:04] <XHFHX> mh
[3:04] <XHFHX> strange
[3:04] <XHFHX> its working now
[3:04] <XHFHX> :D
[3:05] <XHFHX> thanks for your help :)
[3:06] <XHFHX> although I don't know what the problem was. hasnt worked for one hour and now its working
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[6:03] <zZap-X> i gave up on slackware arm + kodi
[6:03] <zZap-X> LibreELECT is awesome
[6:03] <zZap-X> *ELEC
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[10:41] <howdoi> hello folks, can I reset my pi's ssh password from USB?
[10:42] <Radic1848> Hello, I am having some trouble with my wireless on the raspberry pi 3. The "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" command doesn't work. The gui seems to be able to see the network but I get an error when I try to join.
[10:42] <howdoi> might sound dumb, my situation being: I have an old pi on which I had installed debian and configured ssh and wifi, now I am not able to recall the ssh password, I don't have the card mounter as well, kina lost :(
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[11:09] <wiselydoesit> howdoi, i'm gonna give you the simple answer of your kind of out of luck. even if you connected over USB your options would essentially be establishing an USB tethering connecting to the Pi, which would give you another network interface but you would be again at the same point of requiring the ssh password.
[11:10] <wiselydoesit> depending on how out of date your install if and what services you have running you could attempt to find some vulnerability in your Pi and essentially hack it. But i'd hazard a guess buying a new SD card adapter is probably the easiest route.
[11:11] <howdoi> wiselydoesit: if I could somehow mount that SD card via usb, it would be a win!
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[11:12] <wiselydoesit> how about bruteforcing it? if you have a general idea of the kinf of passwords you tend to use then you could try providing you didn't configure fail2ban
[11:12] <howdoi> wiselydoesit: you would suggest an nmap on the IP and see if I could find something, given that I had installed debain it should be pretty secure
[11:13] <wiselydoesit> you probably only have ssh running and yes the raspbian install is pretty damn secure.
[11:13] <howdoi> wiselydoesit: luckily no fail2ban :D I am trying the combinations, user name can be root@ ?
[11:13] <wiselydoesit> username is pi
[11:13] <wiselydoesit> maybe thats your issue.
[11:13] <wiselydoesit> pi/raspberry is the default combo
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[11:15] <howdoi> Does raspbian support booting into super user mode?
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[11:16] <howdoi> wiselydoesit: holygoodness the default worked :D I will do a keyless ssh setup now, thanks a ton
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[11:17] <howdoi> I wanted to try dataplicity wiselydoesit
[11:18] <howdoi> if I want to connect to my pi to anyother wifi headlessly is it possible?
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[11:19] <wiselydoesit> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/92799/connecting-to-wifi-network-through-command-line check the first answer in this thread.
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[11:19] <wiselydoesit> you can configure network/interfaces
[11:22] <wiselydoesit> never seen dataplicity before thanks for that. :D
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[11:51] <Radic1848> Is there any way to know for sure if my wlan0 is faulty?
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[12:02] <wiselydoesit> the onboard RPi3? try connecting to an Open Wifi network, rules out any issues with WPA2/router etc.
[12:02] <Radic1848> ok
[12:03] <Radic1848> I am doing command line at the moment and it will not complete the "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" command
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[12:03] <Radic1848> I will try the config file I guess
[12:05] <Radic1848> "wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Invalid exchange"
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[12:19] <thecha> hi how can i give more than one referer= in etc/webmin/config ?
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[12:30] <howdoi> wiselydoesit: np, the problem again is I can't mount SD card :D
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[13:14] <howdoi> do you shutdown your pi everytime before you power off?
[13:14] <howdoi> is that even required?
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[13:16] <BurtyB> howdoi, yes and yes
[13:16] <howdoi> BurtyB: hmmm...grrr
[13:16] <BurtyB> :)
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[13:21] <thecha> i am configuring my rpib3b to act as an in-house server and i am doing a lot of headless state type clomand line shell comands....
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[13:21] <thecha> could i back trace what i did type all the comand sinto a bash script and by way of such automate the setting up of servers of my desing?
[13:22] <howdoi> sudo shutdown -h now&
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[13:23] <howdoi> what was that call, where in we could wake up on ssh?
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[13:23] <howdoi> ping to wakeup or something like that
[13:24] <DWKnight> wake on lan
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[13:31] <rymate1234> thecha, all the command you've ever written in bash are in the .bash_history file in your home directory
[13:31] <thecha> had to delete that one just now
[13:31] <thecha> iw oudl rewrite manually
[13:32] <thecha> would
[13:32] <thecha> but in theory is it possible?
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[13:40] <rymate1234> well no
[13:40] <rymate1234> not any more
[13:40] <rymate1234> you just deleted the file that stored those commands
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[14:40] <thms> Hi. I took my rpi from home but hdmi doesnt display. Both leds are on but not blinking. Tried others power supply. Same HDMI cable as home. It was also same SD. I tried hdmi_force_hotplug as well
[14:41] <thms> I tried to insert the SD while it's on, the green doesn't even blink once. I read all about "is my raspberry booting" . I know this means it couldn't find a bootable file on my SD card
[14:41] <thms> I'm just lost and not at home. This is not very practical if it simply doesn't work :/
[14:42] <thms> doesnt work everywhere*
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[14:45] <DWKnight> did you bring your wall block from home too?
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[15:10] <redrabbit> are you sure your image on the card is goof
[15:10] <redrabbit> good
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[15:15] <howdoi> does jhony-five support pi?
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[15:33] <PhonicUK> turns out my weird booting issue was in fact an issue with the card
[15:33] <PhonicUK> bad partition table, but not bad enough to stop it appearing usable in Windows
[15:33] <PhonicUK> so weird
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[16:13] <PhonicUK> omg a bad config.txt means it behaves like the SD card is dead
[16:13] <PhonicUK> I feel like a muppet
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[16:31] <riskable> Arg! Why are there no USB C hubs with USB C ports?!?
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[16:49] <Valduare> heh
[16:52] <thecha> how to start wlan0?
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[16:56] <j41> riskable: Because hardly anything uses USB C to C cables
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[16:58] <PhonicUK> does anyone know what package provides the GUI for configuring wifi?
[16:59] <PhonicUK> there's wpa_gui but that's older
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[17:02] <tunage> are 2 Pi zeros worth 1 Pi? 0 + 0 = 3.14 o.0
[17:03] <Chillum> now I want pie
[17:03] <Chillum> thanks
[17:03] <tunage> how many zeros are in a whole Pi?
[17:03] <tunage> warm Pi ;)
[17:04] <Chillum> the number pi contains limitless zeros
[17:04] <Chillum> (I think, have not checked them all)
[17:04] <thecha> how to start wlan0?
[17:04] <tunage> Chillum: how many volts will I need for a whole Pi? :)
[17:04] <thecha> how to restart wpa_suplicant demon, pls
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[17:05] <tunage> thecha: servives? kill?
[17:06] <tunage> wpa_supplicant -i <interface> -D -c /config/path <driver>
[17:07] <tunage> to start it back up again
[17:08] <tunage> services is the nice way, kill -9 if you are really mad at it.
[17:08] <Chillum> reboot
[17:08] <Chillum> ;)
[17:09] <tunage> Chillum: theoretically Linux is supposed to never be rebooted, if you are running it correctly. Minus a kernel update which even now can be done without a reboot if REALLY necessary.
[17:10] <Chillum> I know, I was being ironic
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[17:10] <tunage> Chillum: I do it all the time, because I'm mad at it... ;)
[17:10] <thecha> i have trouble getting a fixed ip
[17:11] <thecha> i edited the config file according to online roeusrces
[17:11] <thecha> and it didnt work it ignored the address i gace (ending on 19) instead it gices random adress as it sees fit (usually in the 9to 12 range
[17:11] <tunage> thecha: the cheat is with ifconfig, if you just need to poop a static IP. Its gone after reboot though.
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[17:12] <tunage> thecha: thats called dhcp
[17:12] <thecha> tunage→ so if config is gone every boot?
[17:12] <thecha> so the dynamic ip the dhcp gives can be turned into stati?
[17:12] <tunage> what are you trying to do? get online? or configure a server?
[17:12] <thecha> the latter
[17:13] <stiv> i just told my router to always give me the same fixed address via dhcp
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[17:13] <tunage> thecha: dhcp will try and be a butthead and get you an IP every time. Sometimes its easiest to disable dhcp first (not always). what is the OS you are trying to configure?
[17:14] <tunage> cat /etc/*-release
[17:15] <tunage> stiv: I'm not sure what you did by 'telling it to give the server the same IP' but, unless you're in a Cisco or Juniper, it sounds like an error and you should reverse what you did.
[17:15] <tunage> telling router, that is
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[17:17] <thecha> so i need to hack inot the router and there i can force dchp to give a static ip every single time
[17:17] <thecha> i see...
[17:18] <thecha> let me do just that
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[17:19] <tunage> thecha: no. you should leave the router alone.
[17:20] <stiv> tunage, it's not an error. it was done via the router's admin interface
[17:20] <tunage> you disable dhcp on the server and then config its IP. if something borks, you can always force feed an IP using ifconfig, but its a temp solution while you unbreak stuff.
[17:21] <stiv> give it a hostname and the desired ip and bob's your uncle!
[17:22] <tunage> stiv: but he said he did something to force the router to give the server an address (mac authentication), something $20 home routers don't typically do. I smell a misconfig
[17:23] <PhonicUK> Anyone know what package(s) provide the wifi UI shown here? https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/another-raspbian-desktop-user-interface-update/
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[17:24] <stiv> tunage, you need to start hanging out with better routers!
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[17:24] <tunage> stiv: cisco or juniper only
[17:25] <tunage> I won't touch/service anything less
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[17:27] <thecha> like so: disble dchp on server, (edit some config to that exent) then give stativ ip to wlan0 and eth1
[17:27] <thecha> ty
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[17:29] <tunage> thecha: https://www.modmypi.com/blog/tutorial-how-to-give-your-raspberry-pi-a-static-ip-address
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[17:31] <tunage> thecha: you can't give eth0 and wlan0 the same ip at the same time, fyi.
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[17:37] <SuperSeriousCat> With port trunking you can :p
[17:39] <tunage> SuperSeriousCat: you can do some dirty tricks with NAT and route maps to. But once again, we're way outside of the scope of a typical enduser homerouter... ;)
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[18:01] <SpeedEvil> Per-user routing is fun
[18:04] <leftyfb> PhonicUK: doesn't that article tell you exactly what package down at the bottom of the article?
[18:05] <PhonicUK> leftyfb, it mentions raspberrypi-net-mods but that doesn't contain it
[18:05] <PhonicUK> I ended up having to install wpagui instead
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[18:06] <leftyfb> PhonicUK: if you run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade ;sudo apt-get install you'll get the package
[18:06] <PhonicUK> that was the first thing I did when I booted it :P
[18:06] <leftyfb> PhonicUK: this is a fresh install?
[18:07] <PhonicUK> yes, but its of the Lite raspbian image
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[18:08] <leftyfb> PhonicUK: why install the lite image if you're just going to install the GUI anyway?
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[18:08] <PhonicUK> good question, habit I guess
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[18:25] <PhonicUK> grr I hate this thing so much
[18:26] <PhonicUK> make an edit to config.txt, fails - put it back as it was with a new file, fails
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[18:26] <DWKnight> what text editor are you using?
[18:26] <PhonicUK> Notepad++
[18:28] <leftyfb> PhonicUK: what edits are you making? What is failing? how?
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[18:30] <PhonicUK> http://pastebin.com/ds96wEvd this is the config I was using, and now doesn't work
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[18:32] <leftyfb> PhonicUK: What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[18:33] <PhonicUK> I've figured it out I think
[18:33] <PhonicUK> a duplicate line can cause it to not work...
[18:34] <PhonicUK> okay I'm sorted now
[18:34] <PhonicUK> hmm, getting a thunderbolt on my supply again
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[18:41] <PhonicUK> now its working seems like a good time to backup my card xD
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[18:42] <thecha> if you turn your rpi3b into a server then do you need shellinabox?
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[18:43] <leftyfb> thecha: huh?
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[18:46] <thecha> leftyfb→ shellinabox
[18:46] <leftyfb> thecha: great. what about it?
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[18:48] <thecha> is it the software to sue if you wanna do ssh and if you wanna do a multidevice aproach?
[18:48] <thecha> leftyfb→ if you wann shh into your server from your mobile devices like your smartphones and your tablets as well as your conventional dektop-style personal computer or lap top
[18:48] <leftyfb> thecha: shellinabox is not a requirement for ssh. Not is it a requirement of a "multidevice approach"
[18:48] <leftyfb> thecha: do you know what shellinabox is?
[18:49] <thecha> lefty can you pls kindly elaborate?
[18:49] <thecha> yes
[18:49] <thecha> it is a webinterface for ssh
[18:49] <thecha> that way anywhere you can run a browser you can run shellinabox
[18:49] <leftyfb> thecha: There are ssh clients for desktop as well as mobile devices. Shellinabox is not a requirement if you want to ssh into your pi. It is an alternative using a browser
[18:50] <thecha> ok so it is not a requirement but what can you say about it?
[18:50] <leftyfb> thecha: if using a browser to ssh in is a personal requirement of yours, then you can certainly use shellinabox to ssh into your device(es) using shellinabox
[18:50] <thecha> is it any good though?
[18:51] <thecha> is it the most recomended route?
[18:51] <thecha> is thee better ways?
[18:51] <leftyfb> thecha: the proper course should be for you to try it out and see if it meets your specific needs. If it does, then it is "good"
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[19:29] <PhonicUK> its alive! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cWjMqQrXco
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[19:30] <buk> stylus meh :D
[19:31] <PhonicUK> its a resistive screen xD
[19:31] <PhonicUK> on the other hand the screen was cheaper than the pi itself
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[19:49] <zeeshan> hi
[19:51] <leftyfb> hi
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[19:53] <thecha> hi
[19:53] <thecha> samba is bad?
[19:54] <thecha> is webmin decent with rpi?
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[19:54] <thecha> i mean arent both these highly secruity risks?
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[19:55] <PhonicUK> everything is a security risk, its just a matter of the measure of risk
[19:55] <PhonicUK> samba is obsolete though, its CIFS now
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[19:58] <leftyfb> thecha: you're better of not using webmin if you care to develop an understanding of how the pi and linux in general works. More importantly, how to fix things if they go wrong.
[19:59] <leftyfb> thecha: samba/cifs is fine for transferring files between windows machines and the pi if that is something you require on a regular basis. You can also use scp/sftp
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[20:00] <thecha> yeah
[20:00] <thecha> leftyfb→ how do you properly set up a homeserver?
[20:00] <leftyfb> thecha: that is an invalid question
[20:00] <leftyfb> thecha: What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[20:00] <thecha> if i want to be able to make my own in house clowd and a server system that does video and music and back ups and allow sme to have a unified file acces sform all devices
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[20:01] <thecha> i wanna do what every i can do with an in house server like i wanna do my own cloud service nad webservr via apache php sql
[20:01] <thecha> and so forth
[20:01] <thecha> streaming
[20:01] <thecha> torrentbox
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[20:01] <thecha> and many more
[20:02] <leftyfb> thecha: mind you, the pi is limited in it's capabilities. I wouldn't recommend throwing everything at it.
[20:02] <leftyfb> thecha: that said, look into installing owncloud on the pi. That will do most of what you're looking for
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[21:50] <mitchel> hello guys
[21:50] <mitchel> any1 here
[21:50] <leftyfb> hi
[21:51] <mitchel> im typing this from my pi :D
[21:52] <leftyfb> congrats
[21:52] <mitchel> i got one but i have no idea what to do with it.. So i've set up a seperate workstation for my pi for learning Python
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[21:54] <j41> mitchel: Python is a powerful language! Good luck with learning it! The channel #python is also good for support!
[21:54] <Encrypt> mitchel, Set up web / mail / IRC... servers on it
[21:54] <Encrypt> And enjoy :P
[21:54] <mitchel> j41, i kinda got a python for beginners book on christmas so yeah
[21:54] <j41> Awesome!
[21:55] <mitchel> i wanted to learn programming language. I tried java but it isnt where i wanted to start
[21:55] <j41> mitchel: If you feel confident after learning Python, maybe try C#, then Java.
[21:55] <mitchel> java is a bit too hard for me.
[21:55] <mitchel> and people suggested me that python is the best language for a beginner
[21:55] <j41> mitchel: If you learn C#, Java should be easy to learn
[21:55] <Encrypt> Java (<.<)
[21:55] <Encrypt> mitchel, I'd advise you to learn C
[21:56] <j41> Encrypt: If you learn C#, you've basically learned C
[21:56] <Encrypt> To understand the concepts behind programming
[21:56] <j41> :P
[21:56] <Encrypt> Not really
[21:56] <Encrypt> It's not the same approach
[21:56] <j41> (or is it the other way around?)
[21:56] <Encrypt> One is procedural, the other is OOP
[21:56] <mitchel> hopefully python wont be too hard.
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[21:56] <mitchel> as im very excited to do some cool stuff with it
[21:56] <j41> Python is easy once you learn the basics
[21:57] <mitchel> you know Python?
[21:57] <j41> I do, yes!
[21:57] <mitchel> ever tried with GPIO?
[21:57] <j41> No :(
[21:57] <mitchel> i've just set up a seperate desk just for the Pi :D
[21:58] <mitchel> my main machine runs Ubuntu GNOME, and this one runs Raspbian with XFCE and arc-theme
[21:58] <Encrypt> i3 > *
[21:58] <Encrypt> i3 love <3
[21:58] <mitchel> i3??
[21:58] <mitchel> you mean intel?
[21:58] <mitchel> or something else?
[21:59] <Encrypt> mitchel, The Window Manager
[21:59] <Encrypt> mitchel, http://share.encrypt-tips.tk/capture.png
[21:59] <mitchel> oh :p
[22:00] <Encrypt> I switched from Gnome to i3 like 4 months ago
[22:00] <Encrypt> I love it
[22:00] <Encrypt> I've become more productive because switching from a program to another is as simple as pressing two keys
[22:00] <mitchel> i had to manually install raspbian with raspbian lite, because i hate the Pixel desktop
[22:01] <Encrypt> And CLI apps are awesome <3
[22:01] <Encrypt> It takes a few days to learn but then, it's really much more convenient
[22:01] <mitchel> i tried arch linux on my laptop
[22:01] <Encrypt> I almost don't use the mouse anymore now
[22:01] <mitchel> i got it to work
[22:01] <mitchel> but
[22:02] <mitchel> i couldnt boot back into windows
[22:02] <Encrypt> I guess GRUB had not detected Windows
[22:02] <mitchel> you had to manually put it into grub
[22:03] <mitchel> So i'm about to go to college on IT, and on 17th Jan. I can participate the college for a day, i needed to bring a laptop with me. Hopefully Linux is not a problem then
[22:03] <mitchel> Pretty much all my devices run Linux
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[22:05] <mitchel> and i completely set up my Pi from the CLI.
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[22:05] <Encrypt> mitchel, Talking about the picture I showed you
[22:05] <mitchel> yeah
[22:06] <Encrypt> You downloaded it from my Pi :P
[22:06] <mitchel> wow, really????
[22:06] <Encrypt> I've installed NginX there
[22:06] <mitchel> damn. what a small 40$ computer can do.
[22:06] <Encrypt> Also, I created a script to automatically transfer the files that I drop in my ~/Share folder to the Pi
[22:06] <Encrypt> So I've created a kind of Dropbox
[22:07] <mitchel> I dont think i can do all stuff at once. Python programming + webserver + email server
[22:07] <Encrypt> Whenever I wand to share something, I just drop a file in there and I share the URL http://share.encrypt-tips.tk/<file_name>
[22:07] <leftyfb> Encrypt: you could also look into owncloud
[22:07] <Encrypt> mitchel, http://share.encrypt-tips.tk/rpi1.jpg
[22:07] <Encrypt> mitchel, And http://share.encrypt-tips.tk/rpi2.jpg / http://share.encrypt-tips.tk/rpi3.jpg
[22:07] <Encrypt> leftyfb, It's too heavy :>
[22:08] <Encrypt> And requires PHP installed
[22:08] <leftyfb> your pi can't handle all the traffic at the moment :)
[22:08] <leftyfb> it's struggling to serve up the pictures
[22:08] <Encrypt> leftyfb, Yeah
[22:08] <Encrypt> leftyfb, I only have an upload speed of 1 Mbps
[22:08] <leftyfb> it's like looking at pictures over dialup
[22:08] <Encrypt> That's not a lot :/
[22:09] <mitchel> it looks like that its rendering a picture xD
[22:09] <Encrypt> x)
[22:09] <mitchel> well, how bad would it be to run my pi 24/7?
[22:09] * Encrypt hopes the optic fiber will come here, one day
[22:09] <Encrypt> mitchel, That's fine
[22:10] <Encrypt> My Pi 2 has been running for like 2 years now
[22:10] <mitchel> Encrypt, when i attempted to watch a youtube video on the pi it gives me a temp warning
[22:10] <Encrypt> Possible
[22:10] <mitchel> Encrypt, or when it has to install something very big, it shows a small icon at the top right
[22:10] <Encrypt> mitchel, But since I use mine as a server and considering it is idleing like 23h45mn every day...
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[22:11] <mitchel> Encrypt, but how bad is it that the small temperature icon shows up?
[22:11] <Encrypt> No idea (<.<)
[22:11] <Encrypt> I've never seen that picture
[22:11] <Encrypt> I guess it is not rendered when connected through SSH :>
[22:12] <mitchel> https://s9.postimg.org/us3mlkq2j/over_temperature_80_85.png?noredir=1
[22:12] <mitchel> thats what i get
[22:12] <mitchel> sometimes
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[22:14] <Encrypt> mitchel, Buy a Pi Holder case as I have dove x)
[22:14] <Encrypt> done*
[22:14] <mitchel> i checked the temps right now using /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[22:14] <mitchel> its 60 C now
[22:14] <Encrypt> mitchel, https://wickedaluminum.com/products/pi-holder-pi-3-secure-case-w-heat-dissipation x)
[22:14] <mitchel> well 59.1 C
[22:14] <mitchel> is that hot
[22:15] <Encrypt> $ sudo vcgencmd measure_temp
[22:15] <Encrypt> temp=34.2'C
[22:15] <Encrypt> :]
[22:15] <mitchel> do you have a heatsink on it?
[22:16] <Encrypt> The case is basically a heatsink
[22:16] <mitchel> but is 59.1C fine for the pi?
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[22:17] <Encrypt> I think it's fine
[22:17] <Encrypt> ImiIt's a Pi3?
[22:17] <mitchel> yes
[22:17] <Encrypt> It's a Pi3? *
[22:17] <Encrypt> Yeah, I think it's its normal temperature
[22:18] <GreaseMonkey> i really should get a heatsink for my pi3
[22:18] <mitchel> how hot does it get?
[22:18] <GreaseMonkey> probably about 80
[22:19] <mitchel> wow..
[22:19] <SpeedEvil> GreaseMonkey: tiny fan under the PCB
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[22:19] <GreaseMonkey> i think i have a spare one ripped from an oldish comp
[22:19] <mitchel> GreaseMonkey, how the hell do you manage to get it to 80 C?
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[22:19] <GreaseMonkey> mitchel: by using it
[22:20] <mitchel> GreaseMonkey, im typing this from my pi ._.
[22:20] <GreaseMonkey> it's a pi3, if you don't heatsink it it gets hot
[22:20] <GreaseMonkey> i hear that if you DO heatsink it it doesn't get too hot and it performs a lot better
[22:20] <mitchel> depends if it throttles
[22:21] <mitchel> aslong the pi doesnt throttle then the performance difference is 0
[22:22] <mitchel> usually my pi starts throttling when im watching a yt video for some reason
[22:22] <mitchel> but the pi isnt made for that.
[22:22] <mitchel> (although it works fine using a mediaplayer for some reason)
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[22:25] <Encrypt> GreaseMonkey, mitchel, Have a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AYGnw6MwFM
[22:25] <Encrypt> What he does is really neat and performant
[22:25] <Encrypt> Very good video
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[22:28] <mitchel> Encrypt, is it maybe the plastic case i have arround the pi?
[22:28] <Encrypt> mitchel, Yeah, that's highly possible
[22:28] <mitchel> around*
[22:28] <Encrypt> mitchel, Because the heat stays there
[22:29] <Encrypt> mitchel, It works the same way as a coat
[22:29] <Encrypt> And keeps it warm
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[22:31] <mitchel> hopefully its okay to unscrew a pi from the case while its running
[22:32] <norsu> Hi all! Has anyone experience with ESP8266 Wifi module with Raspi? https://www.adafruit.com/product/2471
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[22:33] <norsu> I'd like to control stuff through my wifi network :)
[22:34] <mitchel> how do I loop a command?
[22:34] <mete> kyllä toimii norsu :D
[22:35] <norsu> Hellvetin hyv� xD
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[22:37] <norsu> Well I guess I'll order one and try out...$10 isn't that much money after all
[22:38] <Encrypt> Nooooooo
[22:38] <Encrypt> mitchel left :(
[22:39] <leftyfb> norsu: that is a microcontroller
[22:39] <leftyfb> norsu: not a wifi adapter for a pi
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[22:40] <mitchel> im back
[22:40] <mitchel> the pi is in open air now
[22:40] <mitchel> and the temps dropped alot
[22:40] <norsu> Yeah I know it's a complete solution that can be controlled by UART
[22:40] <mitchel> Encrypt, pi temps at 46.1 C now
[22:41] <Encrypt> He's back \o/
[22:41] <leftyfb> norsu: why not get a usb wifi adapter?
[22:41] <Encrypt> mitchel, To answer your question
[22:41] <GreaseMonkey> if i can find that fan i'll try hooking it up to a 9V supply
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[22:41] <GreaseMonkey> it's a 12V fan
[22:41] <mitchel> Encrypt, so the case is shit
[22:41] <Encrypt> while true ; do <command>
[22:41] <norsu> leftyfb, actually I will connect the wifi-thing to my MBED LPC1768 board which again controls an electric motor
[22:42] <norsu> leftyfb, my Raspi3 already has wifi :)
[22:42] <mitchel> definately not going to use a case then
[22:42] <leftyfb> norsu: your question was "Has anyone experience with ESP8266 Wifi module with Raspi?"
[22:42] <norsu> Yeah, like has anyone used it to connect to raspi or so
[22:42] <Encrypt> mitchel, Or cut holes in it
[22:43] <mitchel> Encrypt, it already has holes in it
[22:43] <mitchel> like at the left side of the case
[22:43] <leftyfb> norsu: if it connects to a wireless network, the other devices on the network, including a pi are pretty irrelevant and should all work equally
[22:44] <mitchel> Encrypt, this is the exact case of the pi: https://www.pretzellogix.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/jbtek-jetblack-rpi-2.jpg
[22:44] <norsu> Correct. Just asking if anyone has experience on that thing. Or is the channel topic so restricted that complete projects cannot be discussed?
[22:44] <Encrypt> mitchel, That's not enough
[22:44] <Encrypt> mitchel, And not on the top of the case
[22:45] <Encrypt> Considering that hot air goes up...
[22:45] <Encrypt> It isn't evacuated with this case
[22:45] <mitchel> Encrypt, so what should I do?
[22:45] <Encrypt> You could drill holes on the top
[22:45] <mitchel> and it should give the exact same temps as the pi without a case?
[22:46] <Encrypt> mitchel, Here is what other constructors do:
[22:46] <Encrypt> http://beebom.redkapmedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/DecaPi-Slider-Raspberry-Pi-Case.jpg / https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41tq1ogcUKL.jpg / https://cdn.thingiverse.com/renders/bd/ee/61/6b/e8/DSC_0007_preview_featured.JPG
[22:46] <Encrypt> Just above the CPU
[22:47] <mitchel> while having 3 tabs open the pi is on 50 C
[22:47] <mitchel> thats excellent
[22:47] <Encrypt> mitchel, Or the pibow case: http://raspberrypihq.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/pibow.jpg
[22:47] <Encrypt> *Exactly* above the CPU
[22:48] <Encrypt> A last one: https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/1200x900/1486-00.jpg
[22:48] <mitchel> im gonna try to make a hole in the case just exactly above the cpu
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[23:10] <mitchel> Encrypt, is it safe to run a raspbery pi without a case?
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[23:10] <redrabbit> keep the bottom on
[23:10] <j41> mitchel: Only if you put it on a non-conductive surface
[23:10] <Encrypt> mitchel, As long as you don't have metal nearby
[23:10] <mitchel> its on a wooden table
[23:10] <j41> That's fine
[23:11] <mitchel> i kinda like the pi without a case lol
[23:11] <redrabbit> what kind of temps do you get
[23:11] <mitchel> 48-50 C
[23:11] <redrabbit> that's good
[23:11] <mitchel> with case: 59-63 C
[23:12] <redrabbit> still good
[23:12] <mitchel> no, not really. got a few overheating warnings from the pi today
[23:12] <redrabbit> i get around 60°C idle with case and heatsinks
[23:12] <redrabbit> oh yeah, whats the temperature for warning ?
[23:12] <mitchel> a small icon at the right top
[23:13] <redrabbit> right, i mostly use it headless so i dont see that
[23:13] <mitchel> it looked like this
[23:13] <mitchel> https://s9.postimg.org/us3mlkq2j/over_temperature_80_85.png
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[23:13] <redrabbit> i check the temps from ssh
[23:13] <mitchel> what do you use the pi for if i can ask?
[23:14] <redrabbit> experiments
[23:14] <mitchel> GPIO?
[23:14] <redrabbit> atm i'm seting up a pi3 remote controlled from openvpn server with 3G dongle on the pi
[23:15] <redrabbit> works good, i'm finishing the shorewall rules
[23:15] <redrabbit> making a clean image
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[23:16] <mitchel> looks good
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[23:17] <redrabbit> i'm gonna put it in a remote location inside a water tight ziplock
[23:18] <redrabbit> enjoy all the time i can get out of the batterry
[23:18] <redrabbit> probably 12hours or so with all the stuff on
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[23:27] <PhonicUK> I wish there was a way for the firmware to fallback to a 2nd config.txt if it can't boot with the first one
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[23:44] <incvega> hi to ALL
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[23:51] <Gugg> hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem. The LEDs on my hat sensor never turn off now. They used to turn off after the pi booted. The pi no longer sees the hat board. I thought maybe it was the Hat, but I'm seeing an issue with the pi. No matter what I do I can't turn any of the gpio pins into the off state. They just stay high even after turning them off via python or just commandline. At the same time the pins s
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[23:51] <Gugg> they're all off. Has anyone had this happen (all gpio pins stuck on)? I assume it's a hardware issue I guess, maybe a short somewhere?
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[23:53] <leftyfb> Gugg: got a multimeter?
[23:53] <leftyfb> Gugg: or a single LED
[23:54] <Gugg> yes
[23:54] <Gugg> I tried both
[23:54] <Gugg> the pins are on for sure
[23:55] <Gugg> I'm an EE so I know what I'm doing to an extent, haha
[23:55] <leftyfb> Gugg: also, you can check the status of the GPIO pins in /sys/class/gpio/gpioXX/
[23:55] <Gugg> Lefty, ok let me take a look
[23:55] <leftyfb> specifically; cat /sys/class/gpio/gpioXX/direction
[23:55] <Gugg> I am going to recheck the voltage now and then check the file
[23:55] <leftyfb> that'll tell you input or output
[23:56] <leftyfb> cat /sys/class/gpio/gpioXX/value # will tell you high or low
[23:56] <leftyfb> Gugg: if there's no pins showing up in /sys/class/gpio/ then you haven't set them up yet.
[23:58] <Gugg> ok so I just checked and pin 3 (physical numbering) is at ~3V
[23:58] <Gugg> now I'll check the file
[23:59] <Gugg> I see 2x folder in /sys/class/gpio
[23:59] <Gugg> gpiochip0 and gpiochip100
[23:59] <Gugg> and files export and unexport
[23:59] <leftyfb> then no pins are enabled
[23:59] <Gugg> ohhh ok

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