#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-01-03

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[0:16] <zamba> how long can a raspberry be powered on battery.. i know that's an open-ended question.. i want to set up a raspberry pi to monitor the temperature in my cabin that's not powered by the power grid.. so i basically need to run the pi, a temperature sensor and a 4g modem to periodically update the temperature
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[0:17] <zamba> let's say i have a power bank on 1000 mAh?
[0:17] <redrabbit> need lots more
[0:18] <redrabbit> i run 15hours on the pi3 with 15000
[0:18] <redrabbit> do you have 4G coverage there
[0:18] <redrabbit> prob. still 3g
[0:18] <zamba> it's 4G
[0:19] <zamba> ah, ok.. damn.. i was hoping i could be running it for days/weeks
[0:19] <zamba> what are my options here?
[0:19] <redrabbit> solar pannels
[0:19] <redrabbit> but if you want to run 24h you need a good amount of power
[0:20] <redrabbit> https://www.pidramble.com/wiki/benchmarks/power-consumption
[0:20] <zamba> hehe, i'm in the north of o
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[0:20] <zamba> of norway..
[0:20] <zamba> during winter we have no sunlight
[0:20] <zamba> and that's also when the temperature drops quite significally
[0:20] <zamba> and thus the need to monitor it
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[0:21] <zamba> hm.. what about a way to periodically turn the pi on and submit the temperature and then turn it off again?
[0:21] <DWKnight> 25-40w worth of wind power would be plenty actually
[0:21] <redrabbit> maybe a little windmill
[0:21] <redrabbit> :D
[0:21] <redrabbit> zamba: im looking for a solution like that
[0:22] <redrabbit> so far i found the pi platter and the sleepy pi
[0:22] <redrabbit> its external boards, but they are not cheap
[0:22] <redrabbit> and the first one isnt even available to purchase
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[0:23] <zamba> interesting
[0:23] <zamba> found the sleepy pi, yeah.. and yes, expensive
[0:24] <zamba> but that doesn't really shut it down, does it?
[0:24] <redrabbit> what about a windmill ?
[0:24] <redrabbit> you need power input
[0:25] <zamba> i have no idea about windmills :)
[0:25] <redrabbit> the pi platter is suppose to have power on / off control
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[0:25] <zamba> i'll need a battery power bank as well, don't it?
[0:25] <zamba> -t
[0:25] <zamba> and inverters and all that
[0:25] <redrabbit> probably battery
[0:26] <redrabbit> +something to regulate the charging
[0:26] <zamba> got any information on that?
[0:26] <zamba> where to start? what i need to read up on?
[0:27] <redrabbit> calculte consumption of the pi
[0:27] <redrabbit> then find capacity
[0:27] <DWKnight> you only need inverters for AC
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[0:27] <redrabbit> im kind of searching for that same sort of stuff atm
[0:27] <zamba> well.. once i'm at it.. why not add wind power to charge batteries to use for other stuff as well?
[0:27] <redrabbit> why not
[0:28] <redrabbit> run a lil windmill
[0:28] <redrabbit> big batteries
[0:28] <DWKnight> the raspberry pi's power consumption is about 18-25w iirc
[0:28] <zamba> i already have generators
[0:28] <zamba> which we use while we're at the cabin for lightning and tv and what not
[0:28] <redrabbit> zamba: lol maybe run the generators on a shedule to reload batteries
[0:28] <zamba> redrabbit: hehe
[0:28] <DWKnight> windmill -> charge controller -> batteries
[0:28] <redrabbit> like a car battery
[0:29] <DWKnight> then batteries to DC appliances and inverters
[0:29] <DWKnight> the pi counts as a DC appliance
[0:29] <zamba> DWKnight: can you also add the generators to that schema?
[0:29] <miega> DWKnight, my laptop uses 18w, something's wrong with your rpi :D
[0:29] <redrabbit> certainly
[0:29] <redrabbit> rpi3 is like 3.5w idle
[0:29] <DWKnight> anything that can charge the batteries can be put on the input side of the batteries
[0:29] <DWKnight> ANYTHING
[0:30] <zamba> someone needs to produce a shopping list for me :)
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[0:30] <redrabbit> just get a car battery and charge it by running the generators every X days
[0:31] <zamba> "just get a car battery" isn't something i just do :)
[0:31] <zamba> i fear electronics
[0:31] <redrabbit> then 12v to 5v converter
[0:31] <zamba> is this something i want: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Phoenix-Max-550-W-Watt-12-V-DC-Wind-Turbine-Generator-System-Charge-Controller-/201422483490 ?
[0:31] <redrabbit> something to charge battery from the generator
[0:32] <DWKnight> that's something that would run a pi indefinitely with the right sized battery
[0:32] <zamba> how much wind do i need at the location?
[0:32] <redrabbit> that a lot of power for just a pi
[0:32] <miega> maybe take a step back and try looking for a ready made solution for temperature reporting? can't be the only person who wants to do that
[0:32] <redrabbit> but that should do it
[0:32] <redrabbit> :p
[0:33] <DWKnight> 550W is overkill for JUST a pi
[0:33] <redrabbit> yea
[0:33] <zamba> redrabbit: well.. if i go ahead and do this, i would want to kill several birds with the same stone here
[0:33] <zamba> as it doesn't seem like we'll be connected to the power grid anytime soon
[0:33] <ChocolateTeapot> like, make ghost noises if anyone comes near
[0:34] <DWKnight> you could run an entire house on 5-10 of those kits
[0:34] <DWKnight> with the right battery setup
[0:34] <zamba> DWKnight: doesn't that really depend on the amount of wind at the location, though?
[0:35] <DWKnight> and your usage
[0:35] <zamba> but how much wind do you generally need to have some usable effect of a wind power setup?
[0:36] <DWKnight> not a lot actually
[0:36] <zamba> as i said i've checked the historic weather data for the general location.. and it's on average around 2 m/s a day
[0:36] <zamba> with gusts at 7-8 m/s
[0:37] <zamba> and what kind of batteries do i want?
[0:37] <zamba> i need a shopping list! :)
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[0:39] <redrabbit> id go for shedueled generator
[0:39] <zamba> redrabbit: but a generator needs refilling of fuel
[0:39] <zamba> and that's oh so unsexy
[0:39] <redrabbit> pi dont use lots
[0:40] <redrabbit> you could let it run from gigantic battery and use the generator when they are down
[0:40] <redrabbit> to recharge them
[0:40] <zamba> redrabbit: what's a gigantic battery? :)
[0:40] <redrabbit> car battery
[0:40] <redrabbit> its huge for a pi
[0:41] <miega> zamba, how cold do you expect the pi and this hypothetical battery to get?
[0:41] <redrabbit> yea cold+battery = meh
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[0:42] <zamba> miega: well.. during the cold winter months the average temperature is -6 degrees C
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[0:42] <miega> that's surprisingly warm
[0:42] <zamba> hehe, for what? :)
[0:42] <miega> I was expecting -40 after your no sun comment :D
[0:43] <zamba> hehe
[0:43] <HrdwrBoB> -6 is plenty cold
[0:43] <zamba> but today it's -14 there
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[1:02] <leftyfb> zamba: you probably want something like this: http://www.osbss.com/tutorials/temperature-relative-humidity/
[1:02] <leftyfb> using a microconroller (Arduino), as opposed to a computer
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[1:15] <jerome-> I've created that: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2011085 but I'm a bit afraid the battery will get too hot near the pi. I don't know how hot a pi zero can be...
[1:15] <thecha> a microcontroller is not a computer?
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[1:19] <Chillum> jerome-: the pi zero can run fairly hot
[1:19] <Chillum> I imagine the pi will generate more heat than the battery will
[1:20] <jerome-> I guess it is not a good idea my portable pi, I guess...
[1:20] <Chillum> those batteries tend to only get hot if you approach their limits
[1:21] <leftyfb> thecha: no
[1:22] <thecha> leftyfb→ is a temperature and humidity sensor really worth $40?
[1:22] <stiv> thecha, a microcontroller running a single program vs a computer running a multi-user operating system
[1:22] <leftyfb> thecha: only if it's worth it
[1:22] <leftyfb> stiv: computers can also run single-user operating systems
[1:23] <stiv> leftyfb, let's not get pedantic and confuse poor thecha
[1:23] <thecha> leftyfb→ the thing in the link you was kind enough to provide without coming across as a dick , what can it do that the $1 sensors cannot do?
[1:24] <thecha> is this like a higher quality? or like a very expensive material?
[1:24] <leftyfb> thecha: write the data to an SD card or LCD or do anything else you program it to do within it's capabilities
[1:25] <thecha> heh so it basically can record all the data by itsel? not bad
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[1:25] <thecha> so you are paying 40 bucks for the circuit the sensor nad the computer
[1:25] <thecha> but why cant the original arduino handle that too?
[1:25] <thecha> leftyfb→ dont mean to be a dick, just was wondering why this temp sensor was so expensive
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[1:36] <leftyfb> thecha: what are you talking about? "why cant the original arduino handle that too"
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[1:38] <thecha> leftyfb→ why is the temp sensor so expensive i mena it is $40
[1:38] <thecha> leftyfb→ i though that he sensor comes with its own circuit and chip alredy
[1:38] <thecha> and was then wondering why one could in that case not take a $1 sensor and run that with the arduino in th eproject
[1:38] <thecha> nevermind though
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[1:39] <leftyfb> :/
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[2:53] <Oddyesy> yo yo
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[2:58] <Oddyesy> I'm running an rpi 3 and installed higan
[2:59] <Oddyesy> but i went into the settings and changed the graphics and audio (I'm not sure if they were drivers) to libao and none, respectively, and now when I try to start higan it opens up for a split second then closes on me
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[3:03] <Oddyesy> nvm i think i've got it
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[3:28] <Gugg> hey guys
[3:29] <Gugg> anyone using kali linux on their pi 3?
[3:29] <Gugg> I was about to try to download/install it
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[3:31] <Gugg> ok well it looks like I found the correct distribution
[3:31] <Gugg> I'm going to be the next mr robot
[3:32] <Gugg> I'll take all your bitcoins and make your computer overheat
[3:32] <Gugg> so don't talk trash tome
[3:32] <leftyfb> Gugg: I think you have the wrong channel.
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[3:33] <Gugg> well I'm putting it on my pi
[3:33] <Gugg> so it's fairly on topic
[3:33] <Gugg> I was just bored since there isn't a ton of discussion on here. I'll be quiet now though
[3:34] <leftyfb> Gugg: right. But this is for people who want to learn and grow. Not posers who want to "hackz" and make idol threats
[3:36] <Gugg> I was joking
[3:36] <leftyfb> Gugg: Unfortunately, sarcasm doesn't traverse the internet very well.
[3:36] <Gugg> too tur
[3:36] <Gugg> *true
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[4:27] <wiselydoesit> Gugg, try https://github.com/nethunteros/rpi3-kalimon better build, has monitor mode.
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[5:40] <Valduare> hah, Makers guide to zombie apocolypse… defend your base with simple circuits, arduino, and raspberry pi http://amzn.to/2iCUIvF
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[6:22] <[Saint]> wiselydoesit: wait...what? Presumably you don't mean with the embedded wireless.
[6:22] <wiselydoesit> yeah
[6:22] <[Saint]> AFAIK that doesn't support monitor or promiscuous modes.
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[6:23] <wiselydoesit> basically the chip is the same used in Nexus phones, during development of bcmon for the new nexus devices it was discovered
[6:23] <cstk421> strange thing happening. My pi is responding to 2 ip's
[6:23] <cstk421> i only have 1 static configured
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[6:24] <wiselydoesit> maybe call in an exorcist?
[6:24] <wiselydoesit> j/k, reboot hasn't solved it?
[6:24] <wiselydoesit> maybe even reboot the router, ARP tables slightly screwed?
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[6:24] <[Saint]> wiselydoesit: oooooooooh, I see. Interesting. So it is actually just lying when it lists its credentials?
[6:25] <wiselydoesit> basically once again broadcomm have hidden a feature :/ lol
[6:25] <[Saint]> I only ever got as far as asking it what modes it supported and then immediately finding it disinteresting.
[6:25] <[Saint]> That is interesting indeed.
[6:25] <cstk421> wiselydoesit: is that directed to me ?
[6:26] <wiselydoesit> yeah cstk421
[6:26] <wiselydoesit> [Saint], i even got it to crack an WPS with pixie the other night.
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[6:27] <wiselydoesit> power levels don't show too well though, typical broadcomm that really, they never do. even the macbook pro wifi card is a heap of S
[6:29] <cstk421> wiselydoesit: arp entries for both ip's show same mac
[6:29] <wiselydoesit> the current release is abit of out of date now, binkybear has added some changes of the past few days, you can ofcourse just compile the firmware yourself and insert it into raspbian or generic kali.
[6:30] <wiselydoesit> i'd reboot your router cstk421, see what that brings.
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[6:30] <cstk421> wiselydoesit: i hate to have to do that. its a cisco 1841. not likely its the problem. have vm's and many other machines on the environment with no issues
[6:31] <wiselydoesit> hmmm
[6:31] <k-man> in the new pixel wm, how do you set a program to start at login?
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[6:31] <HrdwrBoB> should do autostart same as before?
[6:32] <k-man> oh
[6:32] <k-man> now i realise my problem, i set it in ~pi instead of ~myusername
[6:32] <HrdwrBoB> haha
[6:32] <k-man> and i'm logging in with my username
[6:32] <HrdwrBoB> ahhh
[6:32] <k-man> :)
[6:32] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[6:32] <k-man> doh
[6:32] <HrdwrBoB> that will do it :)
[6:32] <HrdwrBoB> yeah I have mine just running as pi
[6:32] <HrdwrBoB> since it's basically an embedded device
[6:32] <HrdwrBoB> and .. in my car
[6:32] <k-man> nice
[6:32] <HrdwrBoB> the security implications are pretty irrelevant :)
[6:33] <k-man> as a stero for your car?
[6:33] <HrdwrBoB> no
[6:33] <HrdwrBoB> as a custom gauge system
[6:33] <HrdwrBoB> http://imgur.com/a/quEDa
[6:33] <HrdwrBoB> http://imgur.com/0eCBpUT
[6:33] <wiselydoesit> HrdwrBoB, that is some sexy shiiz
[6:34] <k-man> nice
[6:34] <k-man> and now autostart works ;)
[6:34] <k-man> silly me
[6:34] <wiselydoesit> what are you autostarting anyway k-man
[6:34] <HrdwrBoB> I need to add normalising
[6:34] <k-man> if only computers did what we meant, not what we told them to do ;)
[6:34] <k-man> wiselydoesit, kodi
[6:35] <HrdwrBoB> the current numbers jump all over the place
[6:35] <HrdwrBoB> I need to keep the last N samples and average them
[6:35] <wiselydoesit> k-man, have you not looked at OSMC udude?
[6:35] <HrdwrBoB> Where N is configurable
[6:35] <k-man> wiselydoesit, no, should I?
[6:35] <HrdwrBoB> I also need to change it so that I can have different sample rates
[6:35] <HrdwrBoB> really, 2-3hz is fine for temp
[6:36] <HrdwrBoB> but boost and oil/fuel pressure need much higher sample rates
[6:36] <wiselydoesit> 100% man. its basically the evolution of RaspBMC but with far greater tweaks https://osmc.tv
[6:36] <HrdwrBoB> esp with smoothing
[6:36] <wiselydoesit> or #osmc
[6:36] <k-man> i tried one of thsoe - maybe electsomething
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[6:36] <k-man> i didn't like it
[6:36] <k-man> too prescriptive for me
[6:37] <HrdwrBoB> http://1gauge.com.au/ <- I had one of these
[6:37] <HrdwrBoB> then decided to go crazy
[6:37] <HrdwrBoB> and obviously like all these projects, it's gone way too far, was much more work than I thought, and has taken wayyyy longer than I though
[6:37] <wiselydoesit> naa OSMC is far different from LibreELEC, it has a full debian environment underneath.
[6:37] <HrdwrBoB> and is far from finished
[6:37] <k-man> wiselydoesit, hmm... i'm tempted then
[6:38] <wiselydoesit> what ride is that HrdwrBoB looks like a Navarro?
[6:38] <k-man> wiselydoesit, can you install all the kodi plugins too?
[6:38] <HrdwrBoB> http://i.imgur.com/TzaYCYy.jpg
[6:39] <wiselydoesit> yeah man try it out, you'll like it, it basically is debian jessie, with a improved kernel, added firmwares for dvb-t wifi etc and nothing else, just boots straight into Kodi
[6:39] <HrdwrBoB> 05 liberty (legacy)
[6:39] <wiselydoesit> but you still have ssh and apt-get under there.
[6:39] <k-man> wiselydoesit, ok, getting it now
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[6:39] <k-man> you convinced me
[6:39] <wiselydoesit> that is a fine ass ride HrdwrBoB
[6:40] <wiselydoesit> i'm considering getting an old Defender 90 and making it all 21st Century
[6:40] <k-man> i had an rs turbo liberty once
[6:40] <k-man> git stolen and burnt out 1 week after i got it
[6:40] <k-man> s/git/got
[6:41] <HrdwrBoB> ouch
[6:41] <HrdwrBoB> yeah I've obviously extensively modified it
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[6:42] <wiselydoesit> putting a nice seat in the back over one wheel arch, adding a nice big screen to the facing inside panel, full LTE hotspot and some guages like Bob's
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[6:42] <wiselydoesit> basically building a real life spy mobile lol kind of like a DIY US Marines Warhog, some CCTV cameras on the top and paribolic microphones etc.. am guessing some idiot would buy it when i was finished.
[6:43] <[Saint]> k-man: you really should destroy that pi user
[6:43] <k-man> yeah
[6:44] <[Saint]> IMO the fact that the pi ships with prefilled credentials is pretty disgusting.
[6:44] <k-man> i'm about to re-install with osmc anyway
[6:44] <k-man> [Saint], i concur
[6:44] <[Saint]> If a user can't enter a username on first boot, they're probably incapable of everything else the pi offers too.
[6:44] <[Saint]> k-man: Friends Don't Let Friends OSMC
[6:45] * [Saint] shoves k-man into #libreelec
[6:45] <wiselydoesit> haha
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[6:45] <k-man> [Saint], why?
[6:46] <[Saint]> Well, presumably you want the best solution available to you, no?
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[6:46] <wiselydoesit> k-man, do you want nothing but Kodi?
[6:46] <wiselydoesit> if so go for LibreElec
[6:46] <wiselydoesit> if you want a full debian system, with Kodi as an app on top, go for OSMC.
[6:47] <k-man> no, i want kodi and the right to do stuff on my rpi
[6:47] <[Saint]> Well, I presumed he wanted a JEOS media center, else you'd just install Kodi on top of Raspbian surely?
[6:47] <k-man> jeos?
[6:47] <wiselydoesit> the Kodi in the raspbian repos is still Isenguard
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[6:47] <[Saint]> "the right"?
[6:47] <[Saint]> ...what?
[6:47] <wiselydoesit> Just Enough Operating System. = jeos
[6:47] <[Saint]> Just Enough Operating System
[6:47] <k-man> oh
[6:48] <k-man> i tried openelec
[6:48] <wiselydoesit> you can add a 3rd party repo, some guy is building Kodi for raspbian
[6:48] <k-man> and it wasn't enough for me
[6:48] <wiselydoesit> 16.1 at the moment.
[6:48] <k-man> yeah tried that
[6:48] <k-man> thats wat i was just using
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[6:48] <k-man> but i'm going to try osmc
[6:48] <[Saint]> Given that both OpenELEC and LibreELEC both support docker it's really hard to imagine what more you wanted.
[6:49] <wiselydoesit> ubuntu snaps?
[6:49] <wiselydoesit> lol
[6:49] <[Saint]> And, OSMC is a pretty weird choice if you already have a full distro installed on your pi.
[6:49] <[Saint]> Like...just, why?
[6:49] <k-man> openelect prevented me from chanign password afair
[6:49] <[Saint]> It only does so for ssh.
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[6:50] <[Saint]> and if your media center has world facing ssdh, you've got a whole host of other problems.
[6:50] <[Saint]> *ssh
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[6:50] <[Saint]> a media center has no business being world facing.
[6:50] <k-man> ok, it jsut wasn't for me
[6:50] <k-man> i want to ssh in if i want to
[6:50] <k-man> and change pw if i want to
[6:50] <[Saint]> Why not just install Kodi on whatever OS you're running presently and then set it to autostart?
[6:51] <k-man> and run other random software if i want to
[6:51] <[Saint]> ..boom, there's your OSMC
[6:51] <k-man> and break it if i want to
[6:51] <k-man> i was doing that
[6:51] <[Saint]> k-man: what part of 'runs a docker instance' did you miss?
[6:51] <wiselydoesit> tell that to guys who left their DM500C on the internet lol i once spent a couple of days on Shodan randomly making messages appear on there screens and turning on pr0n.
[6:51] <k-man> then wiselydoesit said i should try osmc
[6:51] <[Saint]> and, they're both entirely extensible through first, second, and third party addons.
[6:51] <wiselydoesit> don't know what kind of person that makes me.
[6:51] <k-man> [Saint], i didn't. idon't want to learn docker
[6:51] <HrdwrBoB> wiselydoesit: hahah
[6:52] <HrdwrBoB> wiselydoesit: see, mine just goes fast
[6:52] <HrdwrBoB> (and stops/goes around corners)
[6:52] <wiselydoesit> lol yeah Defender 90s don't really like corners at high speeds.
[6:52] <k-man> can you mount nfs in openelec?
[6:52] <[Saint]> YEs.
[6:53] <[Saint]> But no one sane uses openelec.
[6:53] <wiselydoesit> OpenELEC is basically abandonware, LibreELEC is the current project basically.
[6:53] <[Saint]> ^ and that'
[6:53] <[Saint]> s why
[6:53] <k-man> oh i see
[6:54] <k-man> ok, well, i'm out of touch with it all
[6:54] <[Saint]> OpenELEC is only surviving now because the developer is pulling in PRs from LibreELEC left right and center.
[6:54] <[Saint]> It's dead, it just doesn't know it yet.
[6:54] <k-man> in the mean time, i think an update of raspian i just did broke xorg or something
[6:54] <wiselydoesit> lol happens
[6:55] <[Saint]> That's what happens when you try and "pull a Linus" on your project when the world has other options.
[6:55] <[Saint]> Like, I'd fucking love to see anyone put up with Linus' shit if there was a viable option for any other kernel as a contender.
[6:55] <k-man> [Saint], what happened?
[6:56] <wiselydoesit> TL:DR the original dev of OE is egocentric
[6:56] <[Saint]> k-man: People got sick of the "my way or the highway" mentality and realized they could just have their cake and eat it too.
[6:56] <k-man> i see
[6:56] <[Saint]> So they made their own JEOS, but with blackjack, and hookers.
[6:57] <k-man> heh
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[6:57] <wiselydoesit> also am pretty sure he intentionally changed and/or removed things needed for certain "3rd party add-ons" should we say.
[6:57] <[Saint]> And the community jumped wholesale and left the OpenELEC dude kicking rocks.
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[6:58] <wiselydoesit> k-man if your an RPi3 media centre kind of dude you should join #libreelec just saying. also #OSMC obviously.
[6:58] <wiselydoesit> lots of testing of Alpha builds of Krypton to be done atm.
[6:58] <k-man> oh
[6:58] <k-man> krypton?
[6:58] <wiselydoesit> Kodi 17 is about to drop.
[6:59] <k-man> ooh i see
[6:59] <k-man> ok, going to try librelect now
[7:00] <wiselydoesit> LE also installs into some of those crappy android tv boxes and makes them less android and less crappy. like the S805/S905 based devices such as MX series.
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[7:00] <k-man> nice
[7:01] <k-man> should i try the alpha?
[7:01] <wiselydoesit> be beprepared for breakage.
[7:01] <k-man> ok, no, i won't try it
[7:02] <k-man> can you change the skin in librelec?
[7:03] <k-man> wait can i mount nfs in librelec?
[7:06] <wiselydoesit> you can change the skin to anything you want i use Mimic myself.
[7:07] <wiselydoesit> do you want to install to NFS the OS or just mount the FS for media?
[7:07] <k-man> mount fs for media
[7:07] <wiselydoesit> you can install to NFS using Berryboot
[7:08] <wiselydoesit> there is an NFS mount service i think right [Saint]
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[7:10] <wiselydoesit> i use Samba shares myself just seems to get better throughput
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[7:12] <[Saint]> There is, and, same.
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[7:12] <wiselydoesit> sure a post on the forums by DaVu about it and it seems to hold true.
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[7:14] <wiselydoesit> *saw
[7:16] <[Saint]> https://github.com/LibreELEC/LibreELEC.tv/blob/master/packages/sysutils/systemd/config/system.d/nfs.mount.sample
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[7:17] <wiselydoesit> yeah thats what i just found before also but figured the k-man would hunt it down.
[7:18] <wiselydoesit> i'm actually really getting into ubuntu snaps at the moment, with the Unity 8 test session in 16.10 i'm starting to understand where they are going with it.
[7:18] <wiselydoesit> its gonna be nice.
[7:18] <wiselydoesit> kind of like a combination docker and android apps.
[7:19] <wiselydoesit> if your lucky enough to have hardware that supports Wayland that is.
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[7:20] <[Saint]> wiselydoesit: I'm not really sure why they felt the need to reinvent the wheel, though.
[7:20] <[Saint]> I mean, this already exists c/o AppImage.
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[7:21] <k-man> NIH syndrome
[7:21] <[Saint]> But Canonical gotta Canonical...lol
[7:21] <[Saint]> k-man: right
[7:21] <wiselydoesit> thats exactly what it is, Canonical being Canonical
[7:22] <wiselydoesit> i like Ubuntu i really do, but more and more am considering jumping ship totally to Arch
[7:24] <wiselydoesit> i'm still Debian/Ubuntu/Arch triple booting at the moment on my main laptop.
[7:27] <k-man> ok, booting into librelec now
[7:30] <wiselydoesit> did you opt for the 7.0.3 release?
[7:30] <k-man> oh, its missing Arctic Zephyr skin
[7:30] <k-man> wiselydoesit, i did
[7:31] <wiselydoesit> install it from the repos
[7:31] <k-man> oh ok
[7:31] <k-man> didn't know you could do that
[7:31] <k-man> i'm not very experienced at kodi
[7:33] <wiselydoesit> goto Addons, Look And Feel, Skins, and Get More :D
[7:33] <wiselydoesit> or in the Appearance menu just select get more and it will let you install some more skins.
[7:33] <k-man> i did the later, but Arctic Zephyr didn't come into it
[7:37] <k-man> hmmm
[7:37] <k-man> its hung twice on me now
[7:37] <k-man> oh no
[7:37] <k-man> just got stuck for a bit
[7:38] <wiselydoesit> i tend to leave Kodi alone for like 10-15 after the first boot, i usually reboot and then wait 10-15 to let it update and sort its shit out.
[7:38] <k-man> hmmm ok
[7:38] <wiselydoesit> are you going for an "build" wizardy thing or manually adding addons
[7:39] <k-man> not planning to build add-ons unless i have to
[7:40] <k-man> oh maybe arctic zephyr is not maintained any more
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[7:40] <wiselydoesit> try Mimic man you'll like it and its also compatible with Kodi 17 when you get updated.
[7:40] <k-man> anyway i want a theme where the highoight on the menu moves, rather than the menu move behind the highlight
[7:41] <k-man> i'll try mimic
[7:41] <wiselydoesit> i should really package up my install into one of those wizard things. i would say its rather awesome.
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[7:44] <k-man> ok, it looks nice
[7:44] <k-man> so can i ssh into this thing?
[7:44] <wiselydoesit> yeah
[7:45] <wiselydoesit> https://wiki.libreelec.tv/index.php?title=Accessing_LibreELEC
[7:46] <k-man> oh... i still can't change the password though?
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[7:47] <wiselydoesit> passwd
[7:47] <wiselydoesit> login and then type passwd
[7:47] <k-man> https://wiki.libreelec.tv/index.php?title=LibreELEC_FAQ#How_do_I_change_the_SSH_password.3F
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[7:48] <wiselydoesit> hmm so you can't actuall
[7:49] <k-man> not according to the wiki
[7:49] <wiselydoesit> i use ssh keys pretty much everywhere these days but thats still a PIA
[7:50] <k-man> yeah i could - i just don't like the fact taht you can't change the password
[7:50] <k-man> anyway
[7:50] <k-man> i can live with it
[7:50] <k-man> disable it
[7:50] <wiselydoesit> you can change the passwd on OSMC
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[7:53] <k-man> anyway, thanks guys
[7:53] <k-man> i have to run now, i'll be back later to annoy you with more stupid questions ;)
[7:54] <wiselydoesit> peace man
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[8:04] * [Saint] still isn't sure why either matters
[8:05] <[Saint]> If your media center is world facing, a known ssh pass is probably not your most pressing concern.
[8:06] <[Saint]> I'd be more worried about world facing SAMBA, regardless of the presence of any passphrase.
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[8:06] <icywiz> world facing samba and world facing no-authentication-required printers. mmm
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[8:09] <[Saint]> icywiz: a man after my own heart.
[8:10] <[Saint]> The only thing I like more than noticing someone has samba public is when I notice that people have wireless APs with auth credentials I can aggressively downgrade.
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[8:11] <[Saint]> Like the range of idiots that support everything from WEP to WPA2-PSK.
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[10:05] <kristina> anyone familiar with the SDHOST controller on rpi?
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[10:08] <NedScott> I went to college with him
[10:08] <NedScott> strange guy
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[10:08] <[Saint]> Intimately.
[10:09] <[Saint]> ...we don't talk anymore since the breakup though.
[10:09] <[Saint]> It's too hard on both of us.
[10:09] <Deusdeorum> anyone that can suggest me a nice fingerprint reader with an already existing python library?
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[10:17] <kristina> is there like a raspberry pi low level development channel somewhere?
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[10:20] <ShorTie> i'd say the forums would be the most hip on that
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[10:21] <squirrel> hello, i'm looking for the most reliable sd cards for rpi. all i can find online are articles arranging sd cards by speed or forum posts saying “i used the card for a month and it's ok”. i don't care about speed, i just want a card that will not get corrupt 10 times a year. any articles or advice on this?
[10:22] <kerio> anything from a reputable brand should work fine
[10:22] <squirrel> i read that some cards apparently have “wear levelling” but i don't see how to determine if a card has it
[10:23] <Lonefish> corruption is mostly due to wrong shutdown, pulling the plug while writing and the like
[10:23] <ShorTie> they all have that
[10:23] <squirrel> i've used several cards by reputable brands and all have ha=d problems
[10:24] <kerio> i'm not sure that `discard` will work on a sd card in the pi
[10:24] <ShorTie> and during 'wear levelling', the pi has no control of it
[10:24] <Lonefish> then I think you'd better work on the pi side to prevent corruption than on the card side.. moving as much as possible to sticks for example (logging and the like)
[10:24] <squirrel> wear levelling is supposed to be something that the cards do themselves automatically
[10:25] <squirrel> usb sticks you mean? usb sticks are using a different technology?
[10:26] <ShorTie> i'd look to your micro-usb power cable and/or power supply, not sdcard
[10:27] <squirrel> i've tried multiple cables and power sources
[10:27] <ShorTie> did any have 22awg printed on it ??
[10:27] <squirrel> hum?
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[10:29] <squirrel> even in the event of sudden power loss the sd card should not get corrupt
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[10:29] <squirrel> and by corrupt i don't mean that it shouldn't have wrong data on it
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[10:29] <Lonefish> if you're writing to an sdcard and you pull the plug there's a chance it will be corrupted
[10:30] <squirrel> i mean i can't read the corrupt card as it has damaged sectors and fails redundacy checks
[10:30] <Lonefish> and I don't think any brand has fixed that..
[10:31] <squirrel> i can't even read the card win win32diskimager in this case
[10:31] <squirrel> (but i can write it)
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[10:34] <mfa298> squirrel: with all flash storage (this can even happen on SSDs usually the cheaper ones) if they lose power during a write they can lose data.
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[10:35] <squirrel> internet says that this is not correct
[10:37] <mfa298> most SSDs now have a capacitor to provide temporary power to let the write finish, and with TRIM support SSDs are usually faster at writing now.
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[10:41] <mfa298> early SSDs (pre trim) and most flash storage writing a small amount of data might mean read the whole block, erase the block, write back the data that was there, write the new data.
[10:42] <mfa298> if you lose power in the middle of that then you may lose data.
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[11:38] <computer2000> Anyone ever used OpenCV on a Pi?
[11:39] <computer2000> Is there any prebuilt package for download?
[11:39] <computer2000> Jessie, Pi3
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[11:43] <i337> computer2000: I don't know about openCV but you might find this interesting: https://petewarden.com/2014/06/09/deep-learning-on-the-raspberry-pi/
[11:43] <computer2000> i337: I just need to do some blob tracking using an IR camera on the Pi
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[11:44] <ragedragon> computer2000, libopencv-dev ....and co
[11:45] <ragedragon> apt-cache search...
[11:45] <computer2000> ragedragon: can you explain a bit further? don't I need to compile opencv myself on the pi?
[11:45] <ragedragon> apt-cache search opencv
[11:45] <ragedragon> will provide you available packages for opencv
[11:46] <ragedragon> to build your code using opencv you will need to install opencv libs and deps...and also the dev package for headers
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[11:47] <ragedragon> you can also compile yourself opencv but it will be more easier to get prebuilt pkgs except if you have specific needs
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[11:49] <[Saint]> if you're running a vaguely current build there's not going to be any kernel headers available for you that actually match the kernel version.
[11:50] <[Saint]> IIRC, everything is sitting on 3.18 or so for headers, it's hilarious.
[11:50] <[Saint]> If you actually need headers from the foundation kernel it's a real pain in the arse.
[11:51] <[Saint]> but for what it's worth I don't see any direct indication that kernel headers are actually required here for the stated use case.
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[11:55] <computer2000> ragedragon: so what exactly do I need to install? all listed packages when I run apt-cache search opencv?
[11:57] <ragedragon> apt-get -s install libopencv-dev will simulate your installation of the the opencv lib, it will install you headers and libs files.
[11:57] <ragedragon> remove the -s option to realy install packages
[11:57] <ragedragon> giving you the -s option to simulate to show you what apt will install
[11:58] <computer2000> ragedragon: so libopencv-dev will install all dependencies?
[11:58] <ragedragon> yes
[11:59] <computer2000> ragedragon: if I wanted to remove all stuff again to start from scratch, can I do sudo apt-get remove?
[11:59] <ragedragon> yes of course
[11:59] <ragedragon> you also have on the apt folder log the installed package list
[12:00] <ragedragon> to remember install...
[12:00] <computer2000> ragedragon: thanks! have you used opencv on a pi before yourself?
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[12:01] <ragedragon> yes but on old stable .... (whezzy)
[12:01] <ragedragon> using a simple usb webcam (v4l)
[12:01] <ragedragon> also on debian x86
[12:01] <computer2000> ragedragon: I plan using opencv with nodejs
[12:01] <ragedragon> ok
[12:02] <computer2000> all I found on the net so far pointed towards compiling opencv yourself
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[12:02] <ragedragon> maybe to include raspicam headers files to opencv
[12:02] <computer2000> also, what opencv version will I have after installing it like you mentioned? 2.x or 3.x?
[12:02] <ragedragon> let me check
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[12:03] <ragedragon> old version:ii libopii libopencv-dev 2.4.1+dfsg-0 armhf development files for opencvencv-dev 2.4.1+dfsg-0 armhf development files for opencv
[12:03] <ragedragon> sorry wrong copy/paste
[12:03] <ragedragon> libopencv-dev 2.4.1+dfsg-0
[12:04] <ragedragon> and my code is using the deprecated C api for opencv
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[12:04] <ragedragon> for a simple detection camera based on diff grabed images during a specific time
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[12:08] <ragedragon> on jessie, you should have also the revision below taken from debian stable
[12:08] <ragedragon> 2.4.9.1+dfsg-1+deb8u1 0
[12:08] <ragedragon> 500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stable/main i386 Packages
[12:08] <ragedragon> so you should have also on raspbian jessie the revision 2.4.9
[12:09] <[Saint]> There's really no need to use opencv if all you're wanting to do is diff comparison from an image source over time.
[12:09] <ragedragon> you can easily check by using apt-cache policy libopencv-dev
[12:09] <[Saint]> opencv is (IMO) for more deep seated recognition.
[12:09] <[Saint]> If you just want the difference between N frames, ffmpeg is perfectly adequate.
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[12:10] <ragedragon> [Saint], yes maybe but opencv help me with this:
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[12:10] <ragedragon> cvAbsDiff(image_detection_RGB2GRAY, image_detection_RGB2GRAY2, image_detection);
[12:10] <ragedragon> what i added on my code
[12:11] <ragedragon> and ffmpeg under an armv6hf is not so powerful
[12:11] <[Saint]> nor is opencv.
[12:11] <ragedragon> and opencv did the job on my case
[12:12] <[Saint]> and it's not like the ffmpeg function for diffing is any more complex.
[12:12] <[Saint]> it's actually more granular, too.
[12:12] <[Saint]> ...but, whatever.
[12:12] <computer2000> ragedragon: wow just been awayy for a sec, thanks for the help!
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[12:19] <DReynolds> Hi all. lookig into powering the Pi over GPIO. I understand this is not advised due to bypassing the fuse and smoothing caps on the usb input. Is this all? Theoretically if you add this to your input circuit that would be fine?
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[12:21] <[Saint]> If the PSU is solid and electrically protected you shouldn't need to do so.
[12:21] <[Saint]> But the real question would be "why?"
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[12:24] <DReynolds> [Saint], because I dont have the space and orientation in the project for the microusb input
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[12:39] <BurtyB> DReynolds, If you haven't already you might want to look at https://github.com/raspberrypi/hats/blob/master/designguide.md#back-powering-the-pi-via-the-j8-gpio-header
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[12:46] <DReynolds> BurtyB, thanks, quite a clear link
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[13:00] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, we are about to carry out some maintenance and upgrades to the ircd servers, there will be some disruption over the next few days as we bring stuff down -- during the maintenance we would ask that you connect to the main rotation (chat.freenode.net) as this would ensure that you end up on the servers that have already been completed! Thank you!
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[14:11] <solars> hi, I'm looking for a cheap raspberry to use with the IQAudio Amp - looks like that is the A+. Does anyone know what the Orange PI equivalent of it is to even get away cheaper?
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[14:13] <pksato> solars: zero?
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[14:15] <solars> pksato: I'm not sure if the zero is compatible, it says: 2/3/A+/B+ http://www.iqaudio.co.uk/pi-audio/25-pi-amp-0712411999698.html
[14:15] <Habbie> maybe ask them?
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[14:18] <solars> I thought I'll just go for the A+, which seems to be the cheapest in their lineup
[14:18] <solars> I will ask though
[14:18] <pksato> or use iqaudio version for zero.
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[14:19] <solars> there is no Amp for the zero
[14:19] <solars> only dac
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[14:21] <pksato> amp is Designed for Pi Zero, but, no info about incompatibility.
[14:22] <solars> you mean, not designed
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[14:23] <pksato> forget to put 'no'.
[14:23] <solars> :)
[14:24] <pksato> amp is not compatible with original rpi. But, compatible with B+.
[14:25] <pksato> Zero is a "cut" version of B+.
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[14:32] <pwillard> pricey
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[14:36] <solars> hm yes then it might work
[14:37] <solars> pricey yes, that's what I thought about the orange pi to cut costs :)
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[14:51] <solars> got a response, it's compatible with the pi zero
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[15:37] <swimm3r> hello all
[15:38] <swimm3r> happy new year
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[15:41] <swimm3r> I would like some hints about RTL-SDR and raspberrypi 2
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[16:01] <Wizard> RTL? German TV?
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[16:10] <swimm3r> no no, soft radio
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[16:11] <swimm3r> http://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/wiki
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[16:13] <MrDrem> afternoon
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[16:16] <MrDrem> quick query, I've obtained both a pi3 and a pi0. I've also got an original IR cam, and 2.1(?) normal cam
[16:16] <MrDrem> i want to run some timelapse bits
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[16:17] <MrDrem> if I get the code working on the pi3, and clone the sd card, will it also work on the pi0 with the other camera?
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[16:36] <leftyfb> MrDrem: try it
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[16:41] <MrDrem> leftyfb: just rescued the older cam from one of my Pi1's.
[16:41] <MrDrem> quite why I thought that a camera on a mail server was a good idea, I'm not sure...
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[17:01] <luc4> Hello! Any openmax expert out there? For an open project I’m looking for a way to pass custom data from the input buffer of a component to the output buffer of another component. Any idea?
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[17:13] <Andrea993> Hi, i have a pi2. The jack sound ouput sucks enough. It convert a pwm in analogic sound with some filter that doesn't work well. I want to make a my custom filter but I need to ouput pure pwm (non filtered) to jack. Is there some way to output pure pwm? Thanks
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[17:24] <clocKwize> Hey, I'm going to be driving some high power LEDs through GPIO of my PI, I'm thinking of using a 5V/5A power supply, and hooking the LEDs directly from that, in my mind, this will ensure there is enough current for the pi plus 4 1A LEDs - is that correct?
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[17:28] <clocKwize> Something like this http://www.circuitspecialists.eu/5-volt-enclosed-switching-mini-power-supply-5v-5a-25w/
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[17:28] <Andrea993> clocKwize which led are?
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[17:30] <Andrea993> Show me the circuit you want to use
[17:31] <clocKwize> Not sure of the top of my head, but they each will be limited to 1A with a resistor, and it'll be a very low duty cycle
[17:31] <clocKwize> I haven't made the circuit yet
[17:33] <Andrea993> Draw it on paper else i don't understand exactly what you want to do
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[17:39] <MrLawrence> Hello guys, I received this RB Pi 3 model B with an SD card with the dummies. I plugged in the card and connected an HDMI and an Ethernet. I connected it to the power and I get the red light LED. However The thernet port gives no lights, and I get no output from the HDMI port. I have tested 2 HDMI wires and 2 displays which work fine with other devices. I have tried two Ethernet cables too. The router does not recognize the input too
[17:39] <MrLawrence> and from my desktop I cannot see any devices either. Any ideas?
[17:39] <IT_Sean> Is there an OS on the SD?
[17:39] <MrLawrence> The dummies OS
[17:40] <IT_Sean> is the ACT light blinking?
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[17:40] <MrLawrence> what is that?
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[17:41] <MrLawrence> There is no light doing anything. Just the red light indicating power.
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[17:41] <IT_Sean> Sounds like an issue with the SD. I's tart my re-imaging it.
[17:41] <IT_Sean> *I'd start
[17:42] <MrLawrence> Uh, what hardware do I need to write to it?
[17:42] <MrLawrence> Never had any cards of any kind
[17:42] <clocKwize> Andrea993: http://imgur.com/XwDdpqQ something like that (without any resistors etc)
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[17:44] <Andrea993> clocKwize it should works
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[17:45] <Andrea993> You need a reistor
[17:45] <IT_Sean> MrLawrence: you will need a PC with an SD card slot, or an external SD card reader/writer
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[17:45] <clocKwize> I know, I just didn't draw those
[17:45] <clocKwize> thanks, just trying to confirm my thinkings
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[17:46] <Sovex> Hello there, been 3 day i'm trying to upgrade my php 5.6 to 7.1 on my raspberry pi 2, i tried like 10 tutorial, total cleanup but i'm still on 5.6 and out of idea
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[17:47] <clocKwize> joys of php
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[17:49] <Sovex> I like PHP until i'm on need to install on Unix machine
[17:49] <Sovex> i need*
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[17:53] <MrLawrence> IT_Sean, do I need admin privileges or something like that??
[17:55] <Chillum> since access to the block level of a device would allow one to bypass file system security, block level access to devices is restricted to privileged users on most OSes
[17:55] <Chillum> so yes
[17:55] <MrLawrence> I have this Windows laptop with no admin rights
[17:56] <MrLawrence> Could I boot a Live Linux USB and do it from there?
[17:56] <Chillum> yes
[17:56] <MrLawrence> Great
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[18:01] <MrDrem> MrLawrence: http://www.pibakery.org/ worked well for me this time, but maybe not so much in Linux
[18:01] <enso> how much of the raspberry pi camera runs on the CPU? is it mostly GPU intensive?
[18:02] <redrabbit> how much should i expect to pay for a camera for the pi0
[18:02] <redrabbit> still can't find a place to order a pi0, exept at ridiculous price like 25€
[18:02] <DReynolds> redrabbit, The £20 for a camera module, plus £4 for a zero cable for it
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[18:03] <redrabbit> id like to put it outdoors
[18:03] <redrabbit> are there waterproof enclosures around
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[18:03] <DReynolds> redrabbit, id image so, but couldn't say for sure
[18:04] <enso> Cause I was thinking of running some decently CPU intensive code while also running the camera on a B+ and don't know if it's really possible
[18:04] <redrabbit> i guess i should get it 3d printed
[18:04] <redrabbit> i need camera + solar pannel
[18:04] <redrabbit> maybe i can use plexiglass
[18:04] <redrabbit> or some kind of clear plastic
[18:04] <DReynolds> I custom make mine, an ip68rated box, camera lens filter and builders silicone
[18:04] <redrabbit> yeah silicone
[18:05] <redrabbit> do you have a pic ?
[18:06] <DReynolds> redrabbit, not with me im afraid, theyre at work. its basically a plastic box with a hole in it and one of these siliconed in https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Photography-Filters/AmazonBasics-UV-Protection-Filter-52/B00XNMWCF8/ref=sr_1_1?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1483463158&sr=1-1
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[18:17] <redrabbit> allright i see
[18:17] <redrabbit> im probably going to use plastic for the solar pannel part
[18:18] <redrabbit> do you have a sample of the picture quality you get ?
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[18:19] <danst> has anybody tried running Ubuntu Touch on Raspberry Pi?
[18:19] <danst> I have no idea why I want this
[18:20] <redrabbit> lol
[18:20] <danst> I think touchscreen is a terrible solution as input device
[18:21] <redrabbit> agreed
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[18:22] <danst> this world lacks ergonomic keyboard solution for hold-in-hand-device
[18:23] <IT_Sean> That's because, histrotically, keyboards on handhelds have always been terrible.
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[18:23] <danst> heard about Octodon, maybe will try it
[18:23] <danst> http://octodon.mobi/#/en/home
[18:24] <danst> but their kickstarter campaign seems to be canceled
[18:24] <redrabbit> maybe make some kind of hologram keyboard that float in the air danst
[18:24] <shauno> I actually think touchscreen is ideal. my thumbs are way too small to put a 96key keyboard in my pocket
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[18:25] <redrabbit> for a pocket device yes
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[18:25] <danst> hmmm.. pocket device
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[18:26] <danst> I imagine some hybrid of Nvidia shield and sony vaio umpc
[18:26] <danst> not pocket but still portable
[18:26] <redrabbit> that octothing looks absolutely ridiculoud
[18:26] <redrabbit> s
[18:26] <redrabbit> :D
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[18:27] <danst> I really don't know if it's worth it
[18:27] <redrabbit> doesnt look convinient at all and bulky
[18:27] <redrabbit> i wouldnt even consider it
[18:27] <redrabbit> exept for a laugh
[18:27] <danst> but at least you're not typing with only thumbs
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[18:27] <redrabbit> then just use a laptop
[18:27] <redrabbit> or desktop
[18:28] <redrabbit> looks like pain, that thing
[18:28] <danst> yeah, but what if laptop always requires something to stand on
[18:28] <redrabbit> yeah, you can put it on your lap
[18:28] <redrabbit> that's why its called a laptop x)
[18:29] <redrabbit> the most ridiculous thing is, its bulky and still manages to use 50% of the screen space
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[18:30] <danst> it's a learning app on the screenshot which duplicates real buttons
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[18:31] <redrabbit> looks really awkward
[18:31] <redrabbit> :D
[18:31] <redrabbit> the whole thing
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[18:35] <danst> just found this nice list https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4biamr/a_list_of_handheldpocket_linux_computers/?st=ixhsowbu&sh=6b9d6467
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[18:38] <MrLawrence> Hello guys what tool can I use to install Raspbian to the raspberry while on Linux??
[18:40] <IT_Sean> dd
[18:40] <IT_Sean> dd if=[your OS image] of=[your SD card]
[18:41] <danst> you may find your sd card with fdisk -l
[18:42] <MrLawrence> Well for some reason this goddamn USB is not booting
[18:42] <MrLawrence> Had problems because of secure boot, disabled them but still it does not boot, great
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[18:42] <danst> are you trying to write raspbian image to usb flash drive?
[18:43] <danst> I've did that recently
[18:44] <danst> but you have to leave your boot partition on the sd card
[18:44] <danst> by sd card slot broke so I placed the sd card only at boot time lol
[18:44] <danst> and the root was on usb drive
[18:45] <danst> s/by sd card slot/my sd card slot/
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[18:56] <ali1234> does anyone actually use ubuntu on raspberry pi?
[18:56] <ali1234> because the images seem to be quite badly broken
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[19:00] <leftyfb> ali1234: i've tried it. At the time it didn't seem to be broken. That was months ago though
[19:00] <shauno> I've tried ubuntu touch on a phone. gotta admit I'm not tempted to try it on anything else. ever.
[19:00] <pwillard> haha
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[19:01] <leftyfb> shauno: Ubuntu touch is not anything close to ubuntu server or desktop for the pi
[19:01] <pwillard> ali1234: I tried it... it didn't last
[19:01] <shauno> oh I know, just noticed someone else asked a few screens back
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[19:01] <leftyfb> Ubuntu server on the pi seemed fine to me when I tried it
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[19:20] <redrabbit> raspbian is fine
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[19:52] <ali1234> leftyfb: it works until you install updates, then it gets stuck at the grub bootloader
[19:52] <ali1234> oh and the image has unattended upgrades enabled by default
[19:52] <leftyfb> ali1234: maybe remove grub? or pin it
[19:53] <ali1234> you can't do anything because as soon as you boot the image it installs all the updates
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[19:53] <ali1234> you can't remove grub because ubuntu relies on it
[19:53] <ali1234> the official images do anyway
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[19:54] <ali1234> the MATE ones don't use it
[19:54] <ali1234> i'm actually just about to try their image to see if it has the same problem
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[20:00] <redrabbit> what's wrong with raspbian / pixel ali1234
[20:01] <ali1234> raspbian doesn't have packages for mythtv, because debian doesn't
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[20:01] <ali1234> that's literally the only reason i am fighting ubuntu
[20:01] <redrabbit> you can add repos from other debian based dists
[20:01] <ali1234> that's a terrible idea
[20:01] <redrabbit> install the stuff then remove them
[20:01] <redrabbit> :')
[20:01] <ali1234> i would rather compile it myself
[20:01] <redrabbit> yea you can
[20:02] <redrabbit> and all the dependancies
[20:02] <ali1234> there is a script that does it for you
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[20:02] <redrabbit> maybe you could do that instead of using ubuntu
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[20:38] <Gosy> Hey guys, could anyone tell me why i cant set a static ip on my rpi3
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[20:40] <Chillum> Gosy: it is linux, so you can. At which part are you having the problem?
[20:40] <Chillum> better question, which OS?
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[20:40] <mfa298> Gosy: you can, although many might suggest it's better to set it on the router rather than the pi itself
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[20:40] <Gosy> Im at raspian jessie, when im in interfaces, i've done everything right, but then when i restart the networking, the eth0 doesnt show up on ifconfig
[20:41] <mfa298> if you're editing /etc/network/interfaces read the lines at the top of the file
[20:41] <Andrea993> on pi2 which is the frequency of the PWM of audio jack output?
[20:41] <Chillum> I have not played with static IPs in over a decade, I always just use DHCP assignments
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[21:04] <Sovex> been 3 day i'm trying to upgrade my php 5.6 to 7.1 on my raspberry pi 2, i tried like 10 tutorial, total cleanup but i'm still on 5.6 and out of idea
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[21:06] <Sovex> If someone can help me out
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[21:06] <enso> Sovex: what OS do you run on there? might be easier to ask there?
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[21:07] <Sovex> enso, Debian Jessie 8
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[21:07] <enso> Sovex: what have you tried?
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[21:09] <r3> Gosy: have you tried, like, http://www.circuitbasics.com/how-to-set-up-a-static-ip-on-the-raspberry-pi/
[21:09] <enso> Sovex: have you tired compiling the source from the github repo?
[21:10] <Gosy> Thanks, i will try this now
[21:10] <Sovex> atleast 10 first link with "debian upgrade php 7" and "debian install php7" , tried Dotdeb package, with dev sourcelist, uninstall php5.6 and i tried to compile myself but this was a failure
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[21:10] <enso> What was the problem with compiling yourself?
[21:12] <enso> Sovex: did you try this?
[21:12] <enso> https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/how-to-install-php-7-on-debian/
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[21:12] <riskable> Anyone know of a 4-5 inch capacitive touchscreen I could use with an RPi Zero?
[21:12] <Sovex> enso, was a github gist with step, will look your link
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[21:13] <enso> riskable: I've heard good things about http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatdb/categories/hardware_linux.html
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[21:14] <Sovex> enso, never found your link, does this will work with mysql & apache ?
[21:14] <enso> Sovex: it's the same php 7.1
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[21:15] <enso> as long as it's properly configured, it should be fine
[21:15] <Sovex> enso, i need to do some step to disable php5.6 or i can just follow and install them both ?
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[21:16] <enso> I wouldn't uninstall the 5.6
[21:16] <enso> idk if your distro, or anything installed, depends on 5.6
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[21:17] <Sovex> enso, nothign special, a webserver, samba for filesharing and that all
[21:18] <Sovex> Will follow your lin kto compile this and let's see
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[21:22] <enso> does anyone know (or have a rough idea) how many cycles the video camera module consumes?
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[21:33] <Sovex> enso, seem like i can't extract the archive... how i could check if tar is working properly ?
[21:34] <Sovex> My bad it's work
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[21:36] <rymate1234> can you use Pi1 images in a Pi2?
[21:36] <HrdwrBoB> yes.
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[21:37] <rymate1234> ok thanks
[21:37] <rymate1234> there's something else causing this pi not to boot then
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[21:39] <plugwash> The pi1 and pi2 need different kernels, most modern images should provide kernels for both but old images and possiblly some specialist images may not do so.
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[21:40] <rymate1234> it's, uh, debian 7
[21:40] <rymate1234> I just plugged in my wifi adapter and the Pi 1 rebooted, lol
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[21:42] <Jusii> normal
[21:42] <rymate1234> yeah I know
[21:42] <rymate1234> just haven't seen it in a while
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[21:54] <Atomic_6Cbf3> hey guys ive got a headleas pi zero here. ive managed to install raspbian lite and enable wifi through wifi dongle (by placing correct config files)
[21:54] <Atomic_6Cbf3> but for some reason even if i put a "ssh" file in the /boot partition, the port IS open, but the connection is rejected
[21:54] <Atomic_6Cbf3> "connection reset by ... port 22"
[21:56] <mete> Atomic_6Cbf3 what client are you using to connect?
[21:56] <Atomic_6Cbf3> ssh on my archlinux x86_64 laptop
[21:57] <mete> so: ssh pi@ip
[21:57] <mete> ?
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[21:58] <Atomic_6Cbf3> yes
[21:59] <mete> hm, should work
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[22:00] <mete> how have you tested that port 22 is open?
[22:00] <Atomic_6Cbf3> ah right i forgot to add, when i see it's not working i unplug the device
[22:00] <Atomic_6Cbf3> and then the /boot partition DOES NOT contain "ssh" file anymore!
[22:01] <mete> that's bad
[22:01] <mete> so it cant work I think
[22:01] <mete> ow have you tested that port 22 is open?
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[22:03] <Atomic_6Cbf3> mete i tested the device is online and the port is open through nmap
[22:03] <mete> what an "nmap -sV -p 22" says?
[22:03] <Atomic_6Cbf3> something is really weird
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[22:03] <mete> is there a fingerprint or version in the output?
[22:03] <Atomic_6Cbf3> i just plugged in the microsd and there was no ssh file, but the port is still open
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[22:04] <Atomic_6Cbf3> maybe the port is always open but all connections are rejected unless an ssh file is found? and the issue is that the ssh file is not being detected?
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[22:04] <mete> unfortunately I don't know, as I use an older image
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[22:06] <Atomic_6Cbf3> the version is openssh 6.7p1 Raspbian 5+deb8u3 (protocol 2.0)
[22:07] <Atomic_6Cbf3> also this is raspbian lite/core/whatever, not full Raspbian
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[22:09] <mete> should work
[22:09] <mete> then I don't know, sorry
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[22:14] <Atomic_6Cbf3> alright thanks, ill look into configuring and enabling sshd service myself, after all ive already done the wifi connection part manually...
[22:14] <ball> Atomic_6Cbf3: Are you using Linux?
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[22:20] <zoite> i've connected an LED to my pi zero but it's still lit even after doing a shutdown, probably because it still has power. is there a way to turn it off when the system isn't booted?
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[22:22] <IT_Sean> you can unplug it.
[22:22] <IT_Sean> But no. the system has to be booted to change GPIO states.
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[22:23] <zoite> hm ok
[22:24] <Atomic_6Cbf3> ok so im checking out stuff. looks like the ssh file gets deleted whenever detected, after having enabled the ssh service. the ssh service is enabled with an ugly af script so ill just try to symlink into systemd .wants directory
[22:24] <Atomic_6Cbf3> ball yes i am
[22:24] <ball> Atomic_6Cbf3: Ah, I'm not sure how to enable sshd on that.
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[22:25] <zoite> i guess i'll just attach it to gpio then turn it on/off via scripts
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[22:28] <Atomic_6Cbf3> ok the ssh service is already enabled, as could be seen from the nmap scan i guess. checking the config, this is also ugly af as there's a lot of stuff enabled
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[22:29] <ball> Atomic_6Cbf3: I missed your nmap scan, sorry.
[22:29] <Atomic_6Cbf3> guess im used to the arch way
[22:29] <Atomic_6Cbf3> ball np
[22:29] <ShorTie> if latest image you need a /boot/ssh file for ssh to work
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[22:30] <ShorTie> and it can take a few for ssh to kick in after boot
[22:31] <ball> ShorTie: Is that just a flag? Can it be a zero-length file?
[22:32] <binaryhermit> yep
[22:32] <ball> Thanks binaryhermit
[22:32] <ShorTie> ya, doesn't look for content, just a file there
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[22:47] <Atomic_6Cbf3> ShortTie im aware of the /boot/ssh trick thanks
[22:47] <Atomic_6Cbf3> thata not the problem though
[22:48] <Atomic_6Cbf3> ive checked the config file. mainly default options that were activated manually. there are some weird options not to be found in the man (protocol 2???) and also theres pam authentication which might be the issue...
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[22:54] <Sovex> enso, seem to work but compil take age
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[23:04] <Atomic_6Cbf3> so doing verbose connection i get this ptpb.pw/ekSY
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[23:05] <leftyfb> Atomic_6Cbf3: can you shut down the pi, mount the sd card on a linux box and look at the ssh logs there?
[23:05] <leftyfb> nd ssh configs for that matter
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[23:11] <Atomic_6Cbf3> .
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[23:12] <Atomic_6Cbf3> `/var/log/auth.log` -> ptpb.pw/4j0r
[23:13] <Atomic_6Cbf3> `/etc/ssh/sshd_config` -> ptpb.pw/64TG
[23:13] <Atomic_6Cbf3> leftyfb
[23:13] <leftyfb> that looks like a good error to start with right there
[23:13] <Atomic_6Cbf3> ima try disabling protocol 2 line
[23:13] <Atomic_6Cbf3> yeah
[23:14] <leftyfb> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[23:14] <leftyfb> and rsa
[23:14] <Atomic_6Cbf3> right wasnt protocol...
[23:15] <Atomic_6Cbf3> wait does all that mean the sshd has no keys to hand out?
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[23:15] <leftyfb> no default host keys ... or invalid file containing them
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[23:17] <Atomic_6Cbf3> so i guess i need to generate the keys for all of this..
[23:17] <Atomic_6Cbf3> loving it so far
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[23:22] <Atomic_6Cbf3> yeah the keys are all empty files. wonder how that happened...
[23:23] <leftyfb> Atomic_6Cbf3: something isn't right with your setup
[23:23] <leftyfb> all of this should have been done
[23:24] <Atomic_6Cbf3> i dunno all i did was put config files for wifi and put that ssh file in place
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[23:35] <de-facto> dmesg: Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC
[23:35] <de-facto> hrhrhr
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[23:40] <[Saint]> Hey, gordonDrogon - you around my man?
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[23:41] <Gosy> I've installed plex media server on my rpi, somehow, i can reach it with internal ip, but not external? I've port forwarded it also.. Can someone help me out with this
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[23:44] <[Saint]> Gosy: my immediate thought is for you to double check your network settings, then triple check them.
[23:45] <[Saint]> you'll probably find it is something stupid like client or network segregation
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