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IRC Log for 2017-01-04

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[0:03] <hmoney> gosy: in the plex admin panel in the browser does it show a green check mark saying remote connections work?
[0:03] <hmoney> that will confirm whether you have it port forwarded correctly
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[0:05] <Gosy> hmoney, give me a min
[0:05] <hmoney> are you on a home network?
[0:06] * [Butch] (~butch@169.145.89.207) Quit (Quit: I'm out . . .)
[0:06] <hmoney> rather, are you accessing plex via a home network from an external source?
[0:06] <hmoney> maybe try port 443 for port forwarding to plex
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[0:07] <hmoney> my university and a few bars have a bunch of ports blocked
[0:07] <hmoney> https goes over 443 by default so it's almost always open
[0:07] <kerio> good old https/ip
[0:07] <hmoney> only negative is it will conflict if you're running a server off your home ip running https
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[0:07] <hmoney> kek
[0:08] <hmoney> brb csgo
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[0:10] <skulltip> what does SBC stand for
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[0:16] <leftyfb> skulltip: single board computer
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[0:18] <redrabbit> http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/QC5000-ITXPh/ is this a single board computer
[0:19] <[Saint]> No.
[0:19] <[Saint]> Though it technically would be if it had onboard RAM.
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[0:20] <redrabbit> oh the ram slots
[0:20] <redrabbit> ok
[0:20] <Atomic_6Cbf3> just a heads up. the ssh-keygen on the pi is somehow broken, i generated the keys myself
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[0:23] <[Saint]> I suspect you were just impatient and your machine didn't have enough entropy.
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[0:24] <[Saint]> it uses the 'slow, and random' approach by default, instead of the 'fast, and 'good enough'' approach.
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[0:24] <[Saint]> generating a 4096bit key takes forever.
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[0:25] <[Saint]> ...but it /does/ work, Atomic_6Cbf3
[0:26] <[Saint]> I added this as an alias personally, for strong and uniquely identifiable keys:
[0:26] <[Saint]> create_ssh ()
[0:26] <[Saint]> {
[0:26] <[Saint]> ssh-keygen -b 4096 -v -C "$(whoami)@$(hostname) $(date +"%F-%T (%A %B %d %Y %H:%M %Z %z)")"
[0:26] <[Saint]> }
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[0:27] <HrdwrBoB> haha
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[0:27] <HrdwrBoB> that reminds me of the goddamn ssh key issue I had with am amazon EC2 instance
[0:28] <HrdwrBoB> wouldn't get the ssh key for auth if it had a space in it.
[0:28] <HrdwrBoB> pulled my hair out figuring it out
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[0:28] <HrdwrBoB> but was a simple buig in the auth setup script
[0:28] <[Saint]> uuuuugh, god - what did you do?
[0:28] <CoJaBo> I've had worse key issues :/
[0:28] <[Saint]> just smash in your own randomness?
[0:29] <[Saint]> spaces in an ssh key /should/ be rejected.
[0:29] <[Saint]> it's out of spec.
[0:30] * skulltip (~ronm@75-136-137-253.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) has left #raspberrypi
[0:31] <HrdwrBoB> [Saint]: in the filename?
[0:31] <[Saint]> In the key structure.
[0:31] <HrdwrBoB> no
[0:32] <HrdwrBoB> in the filename I mean
[0:32] <[Saint]> Ah.
[0:32] <HrdwrBoB> the key itself was fine
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[0:32] <HrdwrBoB> I mean, it would have been fine if it didn't work GENERALLY, but it worked for everything else.
[0:34] <[Saint]> anyhoo - yeah, the reason I use that above for my ssh keys is so that even if they get renamed or shuffled around or I'm otherwise confused, the comment will always tell me what user generated the key, on what host, and precisely when.
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[0:34] <[Saint]> Comes in very handy when you're managing several dozen keys.
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[0:37] <Gosy> hmoney u still there?
[0:38] <[Saint]> Another of my favorite aliases is:
[0:38] <[Saint]> http://pastebin.com/raw/dcrzULqR
[0:38] <Atomic_6Cbf3> [Saint] so you mean to say that the key files were empty because the pi zero was stuck generating them?
[0:38] <[Saint]> Atomic_6Cbf3: Yes.
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[0:39] <[Saint]> It would've happened eventually once it managed to scrape up enough entropy.
[0:39] <[Saint]> it takes 5~8 minutes to generate a 4096 bit RSA key pair.
[0:40] <[Saint]> (yes, really...)
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[0:40] <Atomic_6Cbf3> ah ok.
[0:40] <fragilista> as anyone gotten crisis to run on the raspberry pi yet
[0:40] <fragilista> I wanna play crisis so badly
[0:40] <Atomic_6Cbf3> i remember there was a service on archlinux-arm that could be enabled to improve entropy
[0:40] <HrdwrBoB> wtf
[0:41] <[Saint]> Not bad enough to even spell your low effort trolling correctly.
[0:41] <[Saint]> Poor form. Low energy.
[0:41] <Atomic_6Cbf3> goddamn apt is so slow!!!
[0:41] <HrdwrBoB> fragilista: go and get a second hand gaming system cheap
[0:42] <HrdwrBoB> done.
[0:42] <Atomic_6Cbf3> i just started playing with this and it's stuck installing tmux lol
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[0:42] <HrdwrBoB> Atomic_6Cbf3: what pi?
[0:42] <HrdwrBoB> pi1 is sloooow
[0:42] <fragilista> HrdwrBoB: ahh you took the b8
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[0:42] <HrdwrBoB> fragilista: meh
[0:42] <fragilista> all I'll spare you guys a painfully forced troll
[0:42] <HrdwrBoB> low quality b8
[0:42] <fragilista> l8r
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[0:42] <Atomic_6Cbf3> anyway, does anybody remember little printer? anybody got some good suggestions for small and hackable receipt printers?
[0:42] <[Saint]> Don't talk to them, talk at them. Acknowledging their presence only makes them stronger. ;)
[0:43] <HrdwrBoB> Atomic_6Cbf3: most receipt printers are simple serial devices
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[0:43] <Atomic_6Cbf3> HrdwrBoB (youve got a tough name to spell) im running the zero
[0:43] <[Saint]> Atomic_6Cbf3: I'll let you in on a secret bud
[0:44] <[Saint]> Press [Tab] to automatically complete nicks in any sane IRC client.
[0:44] <[Saint]> A[Tab] == Atomic_6Cbf3, H[Tab] == HrdwrBoB, etc.
[0:44] <[Saint]> In most clients just pressing [Tab] by itself will cycle through nicks in last-spoken-order
[0:44] <Atomic_6Cbf3> i wish i could
[0:45] <Atomic_6Cbf3> im running on android client
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[0:45] <[Saint]> That explains how you got stuck in tmux.
[0:45] <HrdwrBoB> Atomic_6Cbf3: yeah zero is slow
[0:45] <HrdwrBoB> Atomic_6Cbf3: also the slower and shittier your storage
[0:45] <[Saint]> Install 'Hackers Keyboard' on Android.
[0:45] <HrdwrBoB> the slower everything will be
[0:45] <[Saint]> Looks like crap, but it is a full QWERTY board.
[0:45] <HrdwrBoB> always buy the best SD card
[0:46] <HrdwrBoB> heh
[0:46] <HrdwrBoB> on my phone I just use juice ssh to connect to screen/irssi
[0:46] <[Saint]> Tab, alt, F<> keys, numeric DPAD, etc.
[0:46] <HrdwrBoB> and it has tab anyway
[0:46] <Atomic_6Cbf3> it's really really slow...wasn't expecting this slow. might check out alarm in the future, but for now ill stick to best compatibility w/ raspbian
[0:46] <Atomic_6Cbf3> i need to compile a kernel for this though
[0:46] <HrdwrBoB> Atomic_6Cbf3: what SD card
[0:46] <HrdwrBoB> samsung EVO+ is generally best BFYB
[0:46] <[Saint]> Atomic_6Cbf3: you weren;t expecting a single core 900MHz armhf SoC to be slow?
[0:46] <[Saint]> lol
[0:46] <HrdwrBoB> according to my researcgh
[0:46] <HrdwrBoB> [Saint]: heh
[0:47] <HrdwrBoB> with fuck all nothing I/O
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[0:47] <[Saint]> the Evo+ sdcards are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overkill.
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[0:47] <[Saint]> You'll never top out their throughput in a pi, their concurrent write is fast, but you'll damn near never have a use case like that running the pi.
[0:48] <[Saint]> You need a card that favors random seek and random RW, not one that favors mass contiguous write.
[0:48] <Atomic_6Cbf3> ill tell u the sd card as soon as it finishes powering off lolllll
[0:48] <[Saint]> In reality most Class 6~10 cards are abolutely fine.
[0:49] <HrdwrBoB> depends what you're doing though
[0:49] <Atomic_6Cbf3> yeah i was expecting it to be slow but i was used to dealing w/ a pentium4 and this is even slower...
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[0:49] <HrdwrBoB> if you're actively developing it, you want something good
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[0:49] <HrdwrBoB> if it's running shit.. doesn't matter at all
[0:49] <HrdwrBoB> they are cheap enough for 1-2
[0:49] <HrdwrBoB> but if you're deploying a fleet
[0:49] <HrdwrBoB> .. meh
[0:50] <[Saint]> HrdwrBoB: if you're doing active dev on a raspi on the sdcard you already failed.
[0:50] <HrdwrBoB> eh, I am doing the dev for my gauge system and the arduino on the pi
[0:50] <HrdwrBoB> vim and ino and python
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[0:50] <HrdwrBoB> easier to edit in place than scp every time
[0:50] <[Saint]> You can get it to come close to matching USB if you ring the shit out of the sdhost in terms of overclocking.
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[0:51] <[Saint]> But you need to guarantee you've got a UHS-II compliant sdcard to pull off 100MHz.
[0:51] <[Saint]> ELse 80MHz will likely be your stable max clock.
[0:51] <HrdwrBoB> I have two pi1 boards, I should find a use for them
[0:51] <HrdwrBoB> oh shit
[0:51] <HrdwrBoB> and I need to sort out my cooling
[0:51] <HrdwrBoB> I need a 3d printer
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[0:53] <[Saint]> The only reason I use the Evo Pro+ sdcards is because I got a bunch of 64GB Evo Pro+ cards at wholesale cost pricing and couldn;t say no.
[0:53] * Atomic_6Cbf3 (~atomic@2001:b07:2ea:924c:6c9f:b750:849e:4dff) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[0:53] <[Saint]> I think I spent about $18 each on them.
[0:54] <HrdwrBoB> mine weren't expensive
[0:54] <[Saint]> Something like that, two dozen for $400-odd + sales tax.
[0:54] <HrdwrBoB> I can't even remember
[0:54] <HrdwrBoB> but I've also spent probably $400+ on this stupid project :)
[0:54] <HrdwrBoB> stuff adds up really quickly
[0:54] <[Saint]> The 64GB Evo Pro+ sdcards retail for about $80 NZD here.
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[0:54] <HrdwrBoB> $30 for a pressure sensor
[0:54] <[Saint]> So you can imagine why I jumped at two dozen at wholesale cost.
[0:55] <HrdwrBoB> $25 for an IAT sensor
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[0:55] <HrdwrBoB> haha yes
[0:55] <HrdwrBoB> EGT thermocouple board was $20 or something
[0:55] <HrdwrBoB> but I accidentally bought a 3.3V board first
[0:55] <HrdwrBoB> and since I'm constrained for space/wiring, bought a 3.3/5V breakout one
[0:56] <[Saint]> At the same time I also purchased 100 3m HDMI cables for something ridiculous like $0.80 plus sales tax.
[0:56] <HrdwrBoB> hell, the 8 colours of wire spool were $10 each or something
[0:56] <[Saint]> So about $0.90 each
[0:56] <HrdwrBoB> haha that's throwing them away
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[0:57] <[Saint]> Yeah, I was abusing a mate's ridiculous staff discount.
[0:57] <[Saint]> The distribution center where he works the staff get everything at cost+GST
[0:57] <[Saint]> (GST is our sales tax, ~15%)
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[0:58] <[Saint]> So they get everything for whatever the per-unit wholesale import price is.
[0:59] <[Saint]> He recently got himself a ridiculous Intel 4TB SSD with 5GB/s read and 3~4GB/s write
[1:00] <[Saint]> I couldn't justify that kind of expense even at wholesale pricing, I think retail for it is about $10K NZD
[1:00] <[Saint]> He got it for ~$6K or so
[1:00] <HrdwrBoB> yeah I am australin
[1:00] <HrdwrBoB> we have GST here too 10%
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[1:00] <HrdwrBoB> wtf is he doing with it
[1:01] <HrdwrBoB> we have those for our data warehouse
[1:01] <[Saint]> He's one of those gamers with more money than sense.
[1:01] <HrdwrBoB> yeah see that's ridiculous
[1:02] <HrdwrBoB> it's built for 'enterprise' loads
[1:02] <hmoney> sry back gosy
[1:02] <HrdwrBoB> you won't see the benefit of it vs a $1000 SSD
[1:02] <Gosy> hmoney, check pm
[1:02] <HrdwrBoB> those things come in to their own with massive parallel loads
[1:02] <enso> If I need to control a pwm motor from a raspberry pi, do you guys think it can handle a camera at the same time? or should I get a pi zero for just the camera?
[1:02] <HrdwrBoB> I mean sure, your gaes will load quick but shit
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[1:03] <[Saint]> The type that'll swear down that their 240KHz monitor makes all the difference and the type that spends seventeen bajillion years tweaking every possible little facet in the counterstrike dev panel so that he can push fukken' ~2000fps with his four goddamn GFX cards.
[1:03] <HrdwrBoB> I could outfit an entire desk/pc/speakers setup for 6k and have huge change
[1:03] <redrabbit> enso: should be fine
[1:03] * [Saint] too
[1:03] <HrdwrBoB> enso: pwm motor is fuckall load
[1:03] <HrdwrBoB> depending on what you're doing
[1:03] <enso> a drone
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[1:03] <enso> so a lot of computation
[1:04] <enso> just to know how much to pwm
[1:04] <HrdwrBoB> are you DIY everything?
[1:04] <[Saint]> HrdwrBoB: yeah, I mean, the really hilarious thing is that he's got a metric shittonne of RAM, like we all do...'cos, 2016.
[1:04] <HrdwrBoB> because that seems like a bad idea
[1:04] <HrdwrBoB> surely this has been done
[1:04] <[Saint]> So that further negates the ridiculous ssd.
[1:04] <HrdwrBoB> yeah
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[1:04] <enso> HrdwrBoB: thats the plan
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[1:04] <HrdwrBoB> http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-build-a-200-smart-drone-with-the-pi-zero/
[1:05] <HrdwrBoB> blah blah etc
[1:05] * [Saint] really isn't confident that you can really make a truly effective drone with the types of latency you'll be dealing with on a pi.
[1:05] <HrdwrBoB> [Saint]: no, I don't think so
[1:05] <HrdwrBoB> enso: I think you are all assbackwards
[1:05] <HrdwrBoB> you need to start with your requirements of what your drone needs to be
[1:06] <HrdwrBoB> and work forwards from there
[1:06] <HrdwrBoB> and determine the best platform
[1:06] <HrdwrBoB> which is possible a beagleboard black with the integrated PLC stuff? IDK
[1:06] <[Saint]> My personal favorite was a guy who came in here years ago, for a couple of months solid, who didn;t see any problems with building his 'fully autonomous quadricopter' platform out of LUA.
[1:06] <HrdwrBoB> but as a rule, do what others have done
[1:06] <HrdwrBoB> because the path well trodden is also the path best documented, and easiest troubleshooted
[1:07] <enso> HrdwrBoB: it's more about the programming than the actual outcome
[1:07] <[Saint]> It was hilarious that it took him to get to the actual hardware stage before he figured out that doing it with LUA wasn't even close to 'real-timey' enough for autonomous flight.
[1:07] <HrdwrBoB> hahahahahah
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[1:07] <[Saint]> Even for an autonomous stable hover.
[1:07] <[Saint]> By the time it figured out it was off axis, it would've already hit the dirt.
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[1:08] <HrdwrBoB> as a rule - get to as much mock up and real life testing as quickly as possible
[1:08] <HrdwrBoB> because you will have LOTS of problems
[1:08] <HrdwrBoB> that can only be identified by doing it
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[1:08] <[Saint]> Damn straight. This is true of anything that flies.
[1:08] <[Saint]> Adding computing to it just adds to the shenanigans.
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[1:09] <[Saint]> Gravity is a cruel mistress who doesn't like to let go of her lovers.
[1:09] <enso> [Saint]: that's a pretty way to put it
[1:09] <[Saint]> Nothing really /wants/ to fly. Everything that does is in a perpatual state of putting in minimal effort for a sustained fall.
[1:10] <[Saint]> The secret is falling and not hitting the ground.
[1:10] <enso> yeah, I'm in the stage of calibrating the flight, all seems well so far
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[1:10] <enso> well s/flight/hover
[1:10] <[Saint]> Well, you're already miles ahead of LUA-guy.
[1:10] <[Saint]> So, well done.
[1:11] <hmoney> s/ed/in/irc/looks/so/weird
[1:11] <hmoney> k/e/k
[1:11] <HrdwrBoB> enso: it sounds like you'd do very well to entirely isolate flying systems from anything else
[1:11] <HrdwrBoB> you want as little latency as possible
[1:12] <enso> yeah, that's what I came here to ask about.
[1:12] <HrdwrBoB> there's a reason in flight entertainment isn't run on the same system the avionics runs on :)
[1:12] <HrdwrBoB> yeah but you said 'pwm controller'
[1:12] <enso> I guess ;)
[1:12] <HrdwrBoB> you didn't say "extremely low latency flight control'
[1:12] <HrdwrBoB> :P
[1:12] <HrdwrBoB> this is why framing your question is important
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[1:13] <enso> I'm also planing on doing the RC communication with an arduino and interface that with the rpi
[1:13] <HrdwrBoB> how is the payload then, though
[1:14] <enso> HrdwrBoB: what do you mean?
[1:14] <HrdwrBoB> you're starting to stack a fair bit on
[1:14] <enso> ohh you mean weight?
[1:14] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[1:16] <enso> well the frame will be carbon fibre and the pi camera is fairly light, so far the physics of it work out, but I know I'll probably need to strip it down later
[1:17] <enso> HrdwrBoB: do you think the pi can handle the RC communication and the stabilization?
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[1:17] <Sovex> enso, i finish your tutorial, but i can't figure how to tell apache to use this PHP now, i tried many thing with module and php7.load but didn't work :(
[1:18] <enso> Sovex: you might need to compile a new version of apache with 7.1 support
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[1:18] <HrdwrBoB> enso: the comms will be SFA
[1:20] <enso> SFA?
[1:21] <HrdwrBoB> sweet fuck all
[1:21] <enso> Ohh really?
[1:21] <HrdwrBoB> depends how you're doing it
[1:21] <HrdwrBoB> but I imagine it would be relatively simple
[1:21] <enso> any suggestions?
[1:21] <HrdwrBoB> but you may want to use an arduino anyway
[1:21] <HrdwrBoB> no idea
[1:21] <HrdwrBoB> never done it
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[1:21] <HrdwrBoB> but getting something pre-baked would be good :)
[1:22] <HrdwrBoB> maybe something SPI?
[1:22] <HrdwrBoB> http://www.impulseadventure.com/elec/attiny-spi-rc-pwm.html
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[1:25] <enso> HrdwrBoB: I was thinking something like i2c
[1:25] <Sovex> enso, my php7.load is empty, but my php5 is this "LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so" but i can find a similar module on my compiled version of php so idk what to put in
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[1:28] <enso> Sovex: wasn't there something similar with the tutorial?
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[1:29] <Sovex> enso, unfortunatly, nope
[1:31] <enso> Sovex: I'm thinking you're going to have to compile that shared object file yourselg
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[1:32] <patientpl> question:
[1:33] <enso> HrdwrBoB: thanks for that link, very useful information
[1:33] <patientpl> i have a raspberrypi and a pitft 3.5in touchscreen and i want to boot and run kali linux on it
[1:33] <patientpl> possible/
[1:33] <patientpl> ?
[1:34] <enso> patientpl: very likely
[1:34] <patientpl> ive tried just putting the sd card with kali on it and connecting the screen, but it goes straight to white
[1:34] <patientpl> so
[1:34] <patientpl> im being stupid somehow
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[1:40] <[Saint]> patientpl: it wouldn't surprise me at all if Kali didn't have the correct device tree overlay for the pitft.
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[1:40] <[Saint]> anecdotally - ...why Kali?
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[1:41] <[Saint]> Kali Linux has precisely zero reason to exist and by nature is generally less secure than pretty much any other major distribution.
[1:41] <patientpl> so
[1:41] <[Saint]> There's not a damn thing it can do that Debian or Arch or Ubuntu can't.
[1:41] <Ben64> [Saint]: preach it
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[1:41] <patientpl> it turns out
[1:42] <patientpl> i need either an extra monitor or an ethernet cable to get this pi to work
[1:42] <Ben64> kali is more trendy though, makes you look like a cool hacker
[1:42] <patientpl> fml
[1:42] <Ben64> like you're in mr robot
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[1:42] <patientpl> some grade a bullshit right there
[1:42] <Ben64> just laying down the truth
[1:43] <patientpl> no i meant about the monitor thing
[1:43] <[Saint]> patientpl: it'll probably work right out of the box with a sane OS, ala Raspbian.
[1:43] <patientpl> no way to get the thing to boot otherwise
[1:43] <Ben64> so use a better distro
[1:43] <Ben64> like raspbian
[1:43] <patientpl> well
[1:43] <patientpl> im going to try
[1:43] <Ben64> but why
[1:43] <patientpl> i mean im going to try raspbian
[1:44] <Ben64> good
[1:44] <patientpl> but i dont think it will connect to the pitft without connecting to a monitor to configure it first
[1:44] <patientpl> meaning its a paperweight until i can get an ethernet cable or a spare monitor
[1:44] <Sovex> enso, enought for me, thanks for helping me, will look tomorow
[1:44] <Ben64> that's not accurate at all
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[1:44] <patientpl> ?
[1:44] <patientpl> how so
[1:44] <Ben64> you're just making things up
[1:44] <Ben64> it's silly
[1:45] <[Saint]> patientpl: it should do if you update the firmware beforehand using rpi-update
[1:45] <patientpl> im not making things up
[1:45] <Ben64> i haven't tried it but it doesn't work!
[1:45] <patientpl> im best guessing on something that im new at
[1:45] <patientpl> chillax
[1:45] <[Saint]> you can use rpi-update on an external host, just have to pass it the paths for root and boot paths.
[1:45] <hmoney> yo
[1:45] <hmoney> why not figure out what drivers it needs and just download them?
[1:45] <patientpl> [Saint] i dont know how i can connect to it
[1:46] <hmoney> i've realized like 90% of the pi tft screens are waveshares
[1:46] <hmoney> and their driver installs are super easy
[1:46] * [Saint] sighs loudly
[1:46] <hmoney> ?
[1:46] <patientpl> that's nice
[1:46] <[Saint]> Not sure why I bother typing things sometimes.
[1:46] <patientpl> me neither
[1:46] <patientpl> maybe you should stop typing
[1:47] <hmoney> lol
[1:47] <[Saint]> Well, if you're going to be a prick and gleefully ignore the advice given then...OK, sure.
[1:47] <patientpl> im not the one who sighed dramatically
[1:47] <hmoney> patient: put yourself in his shoes and ask yourself if you'd be happy if someone asks for help then ignores said help
[1:47] <[Saint]> No skin off my back. I personally give zero shits about your dilemma.
[1:47] <patientpl> try being nicer to new peope
[1:47] <patientpl> *people
[1:47] <[Saint]> Have fun with your no display.
[1:47] <patientpl> im not ignoring it
[1:47] <hmoney> patientpl: saint is also 90% negative, 10% genius, just gotta roll with the punches
[1:47] <Ben64> try taking advice from people who have more knowledge than you
[1:48] <patientpl> kek
[1:48] <patientpl> I said i dont know how to connect to it
[1:48] <patientpl> DRAMATIC SIGH
[1:48] <hmoney> ssh
[1:48] <patientpl> sure sign of a raging asshole
[1:48] <Ben64> i haven't tried anything and i'm all out of options!
[1:48] <hmoney> no cussing bb
[1:48] <[Saint]> patientpl: well, I had just finished explaining that you can update the firmware from an external host which should ensure it brings in the pitft overlay.
[1:49] <[Saint]> So you don't necessarily /have/ to connect to it at this stage.
[1:49] <patientpl> hmoney i dont know how to ssh to a board right out of the box if i dont know its address
[1:49] <hmoney> oh
[1:49] <hmoney> usually people look in their router for connected devices
[1:49] <enso> ^ :)
[1:49] <[Saint]> ssh isn't even enabled by default on current images.
[1:49] <hmoney> if you dont have access you can do a few other things
[1:49] <hmoney> oh ye true
[1:49] <patientpl> i mean does it auto connect?
[1:50] <[Saint]> you need to touch an 'ssh' file in /boot
[1:50] <hmoney> if it's ethernet and has default raspbian it will
[1:50] <patientpl> ok one sec
[1:50] <hmoney> idk if kali does that
[1:50] <patientpl> im going to try this raspbian thing and see if magic happens
[1:50] <hmoney> saint
[1:50] <hmoney> touch ssh only works if he's doing it from a linux comp
[1:50] <hmoney> easier to just say 'add an empty file with no extensions called ssh to /boot'
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[1:51] <[Saint]> I was being more figurative than literal, but, you're right.
[1:51] <hmoney> saint do you also agree kali isnt necessary when you can just download the packages baked into kali with raspbian?
[1:51] <[Saint]> and it doesn't need to be empty. I believe it can even have extensions, I think it gives up parsing anything after /boot/ssh
[1:51] <hmoney> ah
[1:52] <[Saint]> hmoney: well, yeah - that was pretty much the premise of my statement above.
[1:52] <[Saint]> There's not a damn thing it can do that any other major distribution can't.
[1:52] <[Saint]> And you get the added bonus of only installing packages you know you'll make use of, instead of installing everything and the kitchen sink.
[1:53] <HrdwrBoB> enso: i2c/spi whatever works
[1:53] <hmoney> ah ye
[1:54] <[Saint]> Kali's 'install and enable every pentest package ever' scenario just makes for bloat and a much wider surface area.
[1:54] <[Saint]> that's why I laugh when people install Kali because 'it's more secure'.
[1:54] <[Saint]> Like...no. Just, non. lol
[1:54] <[Saint]> *no
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[1:56] <hmoney> yeah i feel ya
[1:56] <hmoney> tbh im too lazy to learn all the pen testing stuff
[1:56] <hmoney> i got a ccna and dipped out of all that
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[2:00] <hmoney> anyone setup a raspi to run a discord music bot?
[2:00] <hmoney> i've had one running for a month or so, i love it
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[2:01] <enso> HrdwrBoB: alright, cool
[2:04] <[Saint]> hmoney: I've dabbled, mostly for my own amusement and education, and honestly it's one of those things you're better off not knowing I think.
[2:04] <[Saint]> Once you realize how little usually separates the world from critical infrastructure, it all starts to go downhill.
[2:09] <PhonicUK> anyone know of a good supply that gives around 5A?
[2:09] <PhonicUK> a 2.5A supply isn't enough for my pi with its screen attached
[2:10] <PhonicUK> I have to power it separately to avoid CPU throttling
[2:10] <ShorTie> got some nice 5.25v@3amp off ebay
[2:10] <hmoney> oh yeah saint
[2:11] <hmoney> the bosses dont give a shit about spending $ on hardening a network
[2:11] <hmoney> sorry for bad words :x
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[2:11] <redrabbit> PhonicUK: maybe that sort of stuff https://www.amazon.com/oink/dp/B00V33RCTU
[2:11] <hmoney> dude the 3.5in tft screens dont take that much power
[2:11] <PhonicUK> redrabbit, that's only 2.4A per port
[2:11] <hmoney> i've setup multiple connected to a pi2 and pi3 with only a 2.5A
[2:12] <PhonicUK> this is a 5in screen
[2:12] <hmoney> oh crap
[2:12] <hmoney> thought you were the other guy from earlier :x
[2:12] <PhonicUK> nope
[2:12] <redrabbit> you need dedicated 5V psu
[2:12] <ShorTie> i run my 5" lcd from the pi
[2:12] <PhonicUK> I'm using this screen: http://amzn.to/2iNcF82
[2:12] <PhonicUK> I can power it separately, but its made to be powered via the GPIO pins
[2:12] <hmoney> Usb touch and power, 5V@1A
[2:13] <hmoney> that's all it says it uses
[2:13] <hmoney> you also running a bunch of stuff off the usb ports of the pi?
[2:13] <patientpl> things are happening
[2:13] <PhonicUK> nothing on the USB
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[2:16] <hmoney> phonic is the pi showing the low power icon in the top right? or what makes you think it needs more power
[2:17] <PhonicUK> it is indeed
[2:17] <PhonicUK> lightning bolt shows and the performance drops
[2:17] <hmoney> and the 2.5A supply you're currently using is a good-and-tested one?
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[2:17] <ShorTie> that is low voltage, not power
[2:18] <hmoney> you know what i meant
[2:18] <frodox> Can someone hel me with gpio-button? I get 1 all the time (like always active), so all tutorials just don't work as expected =\ and I can't understand - should I connect button to gpio, or to 3v3.. it is mess in the head now
[2:18] <frodox> *help
[2:18] <hmoney> only two icons, one is for heat, other is not -.-
[2:19] <ShorTie> what kind os micro-usb cable are you using, does it have 22awg printed on it ??
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[2:19] <ShorTie> s/os/of/
[2:19] <hmoney> i always forget the cable can suck
[2:20] <PhonicUK> using these cables: http://amzn.to/2hPehkN
[2:21] <ShorTie> you can loose .25v across the cable, that is what makes that 5.25v@3amp supply so nice
[2:22] <ShorTie> thats is 6' long, makes wire size even more critical
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[2:23] <patientpl> got my pi to boot
[2:23] <patientpl> thanks for the help
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[2:24] <ShorTie> Phone Charger Wire makes it not sound good to me, i'd try a different cable with 22awg on it
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[2:26] <patientpl> who here was saying kali linux sucked again?
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[2:28] <Ben64> [Saint] and myself
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[2:30] <patientpl> so you were saying that the os itself is bad it just comes prebundled with a bunch of apps you could get yourself. am i paraphrasing correctly?
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[2:30] <Ben64> i didn't go into detail, [Saint] had more to say
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[2:31] <blocky_> can i move a fresh-install raspbian sd card from a pi2 to a pi3 with no ill effects?
[2:31] <Ben64> blocky_: yes
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[2:32] <blocky_> great, thanks
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[2:34] <Jeebiss> Hey guys, looking for someone with some c++ knowledge
[2:34] <Jeebiss> I am modifying this program from github
[2:34] * Jeebiss https://github.com/ninjablocks/433Utils/blob/master/RPi_utils/codesend.cpp#L43
[2:34] <Jeebiss> and this line seems to be messing me
[2:34] <Jeebiss> can anyone explain what exactly that function does?
[2:34] <blocky_> Jeebiss: did you try google?
[2:35] <Jeebiss> I did, but I didnt understand the results.
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[2:35] <Jeebiss> "Interprets an integer value in a byte string pointed to by str."
[2:35] <Jeebiss> Id assume that then it would parse an int from a string
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[2:35] <Jeebiss> But the code int is different than the string I am inputting and I dont understand why
[2:36] <Jeebiss> Im using this command
[2:36] <Jeebiss> ./codesend 2239496535 5 300
[2:36] <Ben64> and?
[2:36] <Jeebiss> to call the program, but when it sends the command, it sends "2147483647"
[2:36] <Ben64> yep
[2:37] <Ben64> do you know what int is
[2:38] <Jeebiss> No more than it is a variable that stores a whole number
[2:38] <Jeebiss> my assumption is that i have hit a limit of the value an int can store
[2:38] <Ben64> ding
[2:38] <Jeebiss> hm
[2:38] <Ben64> what is 2147483647 in binary
[2:39] <Jeebiss> 1111111111111111111111111111111
[2:39] <Jeebiss> according to my quick google search
[2:39] <Ben64> how many 1s is that
[2:40] <Jeebiss> 32?
[2:40] <Jeebiss> er 31
[2:41] <Ben64> there you go
[2:41] <Jeebiss> so i need to see if the method that this class calls supports a long?
[2:42] <Ben64> what's the giant number for
[2:42] <Jeebiss> its a 433 rf code i need to send out
[2:43] <Ben64> maybe try unsigned int
[2:45] <Jeebiss> so instead of calling;
[2:45] <Jeebiss> int code = atoi(argv[1]);
[2:45] <Jeebiss> unsigned int code = atoi(argv[1]);
[2:45] <Jeebiss> ?
[2:45] <Ben64> maybe, i'm no c++ master
[2:46] <blocky_> Jeebiss: that won't work
[2:46] <blocky_> because atoi only returns int
[2:46] <Jeebiss> yep, i was just going to saty it didnt work
[2:47] <Jeebiss> blocky_: would the stoul() method work?
[2:47] <Ben64> ooh
[2:47] <blocky_> Jeebiss: yeah, but you also need to make sure you treat it correctly in the other places it's used
[2:48] <Jeebiss> which would need to be done in the classes that are called?
[2:48] <blocky_> printf is easy but i don't know what RCSwitch::send takes
[2:48] <blocky_> yeah
[2:49] <Jeebiss> https://github.com/sui77/rc-switch/blob/c5645170be8cb3044f4a8ca8565bfd2d221ba182/RCSwitch.cpp#L485
[2:49] <Jeebiss> that seems to be the relevant method
[2:50] <Jeebiss> and it looks like it takes an unsigned long
[2:50] <Jeebiss> so i assume i cant give it an unsigned int?
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[2:54] <blocky_> Jeebiss: actually it should be "promoted" automatically i believe
[2:55] <Jeebiss> blocky_: so i tried using atoll(cmd) but it returns the wrong value
[2:56] <blocky_> Jeebiss: how do you know?
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[2:56] <blocky_> printf?
[2:57] <Jeebiss> yeah it prints it out
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[2:57] <blocky_> how are you printing it?
[2:57] <Jeebiss> printf("sending code[%i]\n", code);
[2:57] <blocky_> mmm
[2:58] <blocky_> what is %i?
[2:58] <Jeebiss> pi@HA:~/433Utils32/RPi_utils $ sudo ./codesend 2239496535 5 300
[2:58] <Jeebiss> sending code[-2055470761]
[2:58] <Jeebiss> im not sure why he used %i. that was already there
[2:58] <blocky_> look up printf
[2:59] <Jeebiss> blocky_: that'd be a flag?
[3:00] <Jeebiss> %i seems to be a signed int flag
[3:00] <Jeebiss> sooo
[3:01] <Jeebiss> do i need to eliminate it, or change it to a %u?
[3:02] <Jeebiss> %u seemed to display the proper number
[3:02] <blocky_> try printf("sending code[%lu]\n", code)
[3:02] <blocky_> okay great
[3:03] <blocky_> i thought i joined #raspberrypi not ##c++ :P
[3:03] <Jeebiss> pi@HA:~/433Utils32/RPi_utils $ sudo ./codesend 2239496535 5 300
[3:03] <Jeebiss> sending code[2239496535]
[3:03] <Jeebiss> haha @blocky_ either way, the help is much appreciated
[3:03] <blocky_> no problem
[3:04] <Jeebiss> now its sending the correct code, but on the wrong protocol
[3:04] <blocky_> if you don't have 2 million different codes you might consider using shorter ones
[3:05] <Jeebiss> blocky_: unfortunately im sending a code to something hard programmed to accept it
[3:05] <Jeebiss> everything else up to this point has used 24 bit codes
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[3:05] <Jeebiss> im automating my house with rf stuff, and using my pi to control it all
[3:05] <blocky_> cool
[3:05] <blocky_> what kind of rc stuff?
[3:05] <blocky_> err rf stuff
[3:06] <Jeebiss> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DQELHBS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[3:06] <Jeebiss> those were the easiest to get going
[3:06] <Jeebiss> now i am messing with these
[3:06] <Jeebiss> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KH1IEMW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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[3:08] <blocky_> are you going to put it under the control of an AI afterwards?
[3:09] <Jeebiss> https://home-assistant.io/
[3:09] <Jeebiss> this is some really fun software to mess with
[3:09] <Jeebiss> ive fallen into a rabbit hole
[3:10] <blocky_> cool
[3:10] <Jeebiss> i needed something to spend on amazon gift cards from christmas on hahah
[3:10] <blocky_> do you use some sort of transmitter connected to the pi instead of the remote?
[3:10] <Jeebiss> yep
[3:11] <Jeebiss> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017AYH5G0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[3:11] <Jeebiss> they are so cheap, there is almost no reason not to mess around with them
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[3:11] <Jeebiss> the receivers in those sets are garbage, but i managed to get just enough out of one to sniff codes
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[3:12] <Jeebiss> but the transmitters reach nearly my whole house without an atenna wire added
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[3:13] <koss> jeebliss just fill your house with these http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B01L84U8NU/fpv-20/
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[3:13] <blocky_> lol koss that must be a joke
[3:13] <blocky_> can it order anything except banana-related products?
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[3:14] <Jeebiss> @koss haha, funny story
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[3:14] <Jeebiss> https://github.com/maddox/dasher
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[3:14] <Jeebiss> kind of already did
[3:14] <blocky_> how often would you need to go through 75 nerf darts to make that worthwhile
[3:14] <Jeebiss> @blocky_ you can get those buttons to order all sorts of crap
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[3:15] <Jeebiss> ive got mine set up as light swithes hahah
[3:15] <redrabbit> anyone tried to make a lil windmill from computer fans to charge a battery for the pi
[3:15] <blocky_> lmao
[3:15] <Jeebiss> you'd need a lot of wind
[3:15] <blocky_> i think that violates one of the laws of thermodynamics
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[3:19] <Jeebiss> @blocky_ those dash buttons are pretty awesome for 5 bucks. its basically a wifi button.
[3:19] <Jeebiss> you can intercept the http commands and make them do whatever
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[3:20] <icywiz> I have a couple but havent opened them up yet. I've been meaning to play with them
[3:20] <Jeebiss> it was surprisingly easy to do with dasher
[3:21] <icywiz> I'll have to bookmark that for later. thanks
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[3:23] <Jeebiss> icywiz: its real fun in combination with IFTTT
[3:23] <Jeebiss> you can make them do nearly anything
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[3:27] <redrabbit> interesting
[3:27] <redrabbit> how do you do that Jeebiss
[3:27] <koss> lol jeebis, i made a dash button turn off all the lights in my house. i'd say i modded the dash button but in reality i modded my network
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[3:29] <Jeebiss> redrabbit: http://www.bruhautomation.com/single-post/2016/11/22/How-To-Use-an-Amazon-Dash-with-IFTTT-and-Home-Assistant
[3:30] <Jeebiss> redrabbit: its surprisngly simple
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[3:31] <koss> i have a redbull dash button that looks too cool to open
[3:32] <Jeebiss> you can get them cheap on ebay
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[3:39] <fn2> Hi
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[8:27] <TheSilentLink> Hi is there a way I can set up a web site to act as a proxy?
[8:27] <TheSilentLink> On my pi
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[8:51] <Wizard> TheSilentLink: What do you mean by „website to act as a proxy”?
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[9:11] <brainzap> hello people with fetishes for big pins
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[10:25] <chisight> TheSilentLink: yes, nginx does proxy for other web servers. an old solution for something similar is stunnel. both work on the pi.
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[10:27] <chisight> TheSilentLink: if you're looking to proxy a client or two to any website, there are solutions to that too. none of this is pi specific.
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[11:02] <computer2000> Anyone ever used an UpBoard?
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[11:26] <psprint> Hello. Does anyone know what chipsets picapture uses? https://lintestsystems.com/products/picapture-sd1
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[11:33] <TheSilentLink> Wizard: I want a proxy server I can assess from a browser and type the url I want to go to
[11:34] <TheSilentLink> chisight: but nginx isn't free right?
[11:35] <chisight> TheSilentLink: it is free.
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[11:35] <TheSilentLink> chisight: oh is there a guide on how to set it up?
[11:36] <chisight> TheSilentLink: nginx is not a client side proxy though, it's server side, so intended to be static mappings.
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[11:36] <TheSilentLink> Oh so you can run it on your pi
[11:36] <TheSilentLink> Can't *
[11:36] <chisight> sure, there is a manual. yes it runs on the pi.
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[11:38] <TheSilentLink> Would phpproxy work?
[11:39] <clocKwize> can't you install squid or something like that
[11:39] <Wizard> if php works…
[11:39] <Wizard> But he wants something like hidemyass.
[11:39] <clocKwize> http://www.squid-cache.org/
[11:39] <Wizard> Am I getting this correctly?
[11:40] <clocKwize> you can access a proper proxy from a browser.. you just need to set the proxy in the settings
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[11:46] <Wizard> TheSilentLink: What are you trying to achieve?
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[12:41] <stevie86> Hi! I tried to install wallabag on my raspberry pi webserver
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[12:42] <stevie86> when I try to access the folder wallabag folder on my webserver I get error 403
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[12:43] <ChocolateTeapot> you should probably mention the base OS stevie86
[12:43] <Lartza> And how you installed it
[12:43] <chisight> 403 is permissions.
[12:44] <Lartza> chisight, Correct, but that can still be a couple of different things :)
[12:44] <chisight> yes
[12:46] <stevie86> I am using debian jessie
[12:46] <chisight> underlying filesystem rights are most likely, but there are several other ways to not have permission.
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[12:47] <chisight> start by making sure that the user who the webserver runs as also has access to these files including the ability to find them in the directory.
[12:48] <Lartza> Would still need to know how they have installed wallabag
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[12:48] <chisight> that would be useful information.
[12:49] <stevie86> I tried to follow this tutorial https://got-tty.org/installation-von-wallabag-auf-debian-jessie
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[12:50] <Lartza> 2.0.5 is half years old
[12:51] <Lartza> And that guide is all...
[12:51] <Lartza> The part "Wallabag via git und composer installieren"
[12:51] <Lartza> Should be as easy as http://doc.wallabag.org/en/master/user/installation.html#on-a-dedicated-web-server-recommended-way
[12:51] <Lartza> Of course still using sudo -u www-data
[12:52] <Lartza> And make run is just to test it works, apache virtualhost example is on that page too
[12:53] <Lartza> Oh you do still need to install composer sure, as per above that
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[13:26] <DemoniWaari> does anyone have any idea why I can't connect to my rpi through ethernet cable via ssh with the standard "pi" and "raspberry" user and pw? I can ssh into it, but the login doesn't seem to be working.
[13:27] <DemoniWaari> oh yeah and I'm on windows 10 and rpi is running jessie
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[13:29] <H__> can you try from a linux machine with 'ssh -vvv pi@machine' ?
[13:30] <DemoniWaari> yeah I can do it through windows 10 bash, just a sec
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[13:33] <DemoniWaari> okay my rpi doesn't boot up, this might take a bit longer than a sec
[13:35] <DemoniWaari> should I just paste it here
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[13:36] <DemoniWaari> nvm I put it here http://pastebin.com/TRyXD8ZV
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[13:38] <H__> and you can log in locally via console as use pi with that password ?
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[13:50] <DemoniWaari> so apparently I was already logged in as "pi" when I started up the rpi, so I can't really check whether the local log in with "pi" and "raspberry" works
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[13:56] <TheSilentLink> Wizard: I want to access all website as a lot of websites are blocked even the ones with info.
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[13:59] <Wizard> Is your pi available from internet?
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[13:59] <ChocolateTeapot> gssapi-with-mic ?!
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[14:09] <TheSilentLink> Wizard: yep
[14:10] <Wizard> Then I’d just set up som proxy server and set it in the browser
[14:11] <Wizard> privoxy is nice
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[14:11] <Wizard> https://www.privoxy.org/
[14:11] <Wizard> It’s in the repo
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[16:40] <psprint> What are alternatives to PiCapture standard definition ?
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[16:57] <Cloudish> is it worth to buy 3.5 display for rpi ?
[16:57] <Cloudish> what could be its use ?
[16:57] <kopykat> you can set it up and work everywhere
[16:58] <kopykat> mobility
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[17:02] <Cloudish> hm you are not persuasively enough to spend 15euros
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[17:03] <Cloudish> i need to buy a case for rpi, those with display seems handy, but not sure if i really will use that display
[17:03] <Cloudish> as i never owned rpi before
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[17:04] <taza> Use it with a homemade case for a bit
[17:05] <delold> hello, just a question here. I've been measuring my voltage on the Pi via multimeter on TP1 and TP2 and measured over 7V? is it ok?
[17:05] <leftyfb> Cloudish: it is only worth it if it's worth it to you personally and you believe you have use for it. I don't believe anyone else here should have to convince you either way.
[17:06] <Cloudish> leftyfb, you dont need to convince me anything, jsut asking if you find it handy, if so, how?
[17:06] <taza> You can just take a plastic plate and make a homemade case for ~nothing
[17:06] <taza> Cloudish: And cue the tumbleweeds
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[17:09] <Cloudish> i guess i will pass on display for now, and buy just a case for 1 euro
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[17:12] <delold> is it even possible for voltage to raise even if the powersuply is def <= 5V?
[17:13] <delold> *rise
[17:13] <Redfoxmoon> with a step-up boost converter sure
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[17:14] <Redfoxmoon> could also be a bad multimeter :-)
[17:15] <delold> i'm thinking it too, bought a cheap one for testing
[17:15] <Redfoxmoon> heh
[17:15] <delold> everything seems alright and RPi doesn't seem to blow up
[17:15] <delold> yet
[17:15] <Redfoxmoon> is it chinese-cheap or just cheap? :P
[17:16] <delold> cheap even for the chinese
[17:16] <leftyfb> Redfoxmoon: test other things. Test your power adapter. Test a new battery. Test some other piece of electronics
[17:16] <Redfoxmoon> oh boy. :-)
[17:16] <leftyfb> er, delold ^
[17:16] <Redfoxmoon> yeah what leftyfb said :-)
[17:18] <delold> will do, thanks
[17:19] <delold> but just wondering, if the multimeter is not lying to me and there is really a 7V running through RPi, shouldn't be Pi fried already?
[17:19] <delold> or at least the fuse would trip
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[17:25] <MrLawrence> Can I run the installation process through SSH?
[17:25] <MrLawrence> This is the first time I get to run something on the PI, it's raspbian lite on an sd card and have no monitor so I figure maybe I could run through the install with ssh
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[17:27] <Redfoxmoon> MrLawrence, could use serial via UART
[17:27] <H__> that's what I use too. Not sure if hte latest images (even lite) still allow you to ssh in
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[17:28] <ShorTie> ya, but need a ssh file
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[17:33] <MrLawrence> I am trying to install raspbian but for some reason when I boot I get a blue colored screen and it tells me "resized root partition, rebooting in 5 seconds" and it does this over and over again, what is going on??
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[17:53] <shiftplusone> MrLawrence: Install it how? Have you edited cmdline.txt?
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[17:57] <MrLawrence> I thought I had to flash it and boot it
[17:58] <mfa298> write the image to an SD card on a normal PC, put SD into Pi, turn pi on. Done.
[17:59] <mfa298> there's not really much else you need to do as installation
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[17:59] <mfa298> although if it's the lite image and you want to ssh in you probably want to put a file called 'ssh' onto the fat partition
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[18:01] <H__> never heard of a resize bootloop
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[18:15] <cluelessperson> hey guys, does grub work for the raspberry pi? I'm wanting to do a live boot and wondering what my options are.
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[18:17] <H__> good question, my pi does not use grub. not sure what it uses instead actually
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[18:20] <cluelessperson> H__, It looks like the GPU boots the rom, which enables the ARM processor, which then boots the sdcard
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[18:21] <mfa298> cluelessperson: that's roughly right. Although most of the code the gpu uses to boot the arm cpu also comes from the sd card
[18:21] <cluelessperson> mfa298, I'd like to remaster debian for rasberry pi
[18:22] <cluelessperson> mfa298, or remaster raspian. Bascially I want to make a life boot that's read only.
[18:22] <cluelessperson> preferably into ram
[18:22] <H__> I have a read-only PI
[18:22] <mfa298> if you search the forums you'll probably find lots of hints on how to do it
[18:22] <HerculeP> raspi's dont use grub, eg see http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/10442/what-is-the-boot-sequence/10595
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[18:23] <H__> cool. reading.
[18:24] <H__> never thought the GPU would be the first thing here
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[18:25] <HerculeP> maybe there are better links (just a quick googling ;) )
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[18:27] <mfa298> it is on the Pi, as the GPU has overall control of all the hardwre
[18:28] <H__> so the GPU loads bootcode.bin from the SD card bypassing the CPU entirely. weird.
[18:28] <mfa298> the arm cpu cores are effectively just an add on inside the broadcom chip
[18:29] <H__> yet that's the only thing I use :-D
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[18:33] <leftyfb> cluelessperson: http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,20649.0.html
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[18:33] <leftyfb> cluelessperson: piCore prettymuch already does what you're looking for
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[18:42] <cluelessperson> leftyfb, I need more functionarlity
[18:42] <cluelessperson> leftyfb, and remastering debian isos is VERY easy
[18:43] <leftyfb> cluelessperson: what type of functionality?
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[18:43] <cluelessperson> leftyfb, mostly python and some crypography libraries
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[18:46] <stevie86> Hi! I'm still trying to install wallabag on my raspberry pi
[18:47] <stevie86> I tried to follow this tutorial here http://doc.wallabag.org/en/master/user/installation.html but I get the following error:
[18:47] <stevie86> sudo -u www-data make install
[18:47] <stevie86> Note: checking out '2.1.5'.
[18:47] <stevie86> You are in 'detached HEAD' state. You can look around, make experimental
[18:47] <stevie86> changes and commit them, and you can discard any commits you make in this
[18:47] <stevie86> state without impacting any branches by performing another checkout.
[18:47] <stevie86> If you want to create a new branch to retain commits you create, you may
[18:47] <stevie86> do so (now or later) by using -b with the checkout command again. Example:
[18:47] <stevie86> git checkout -b new_branch_name
[18:47] <stevie86> HEAD ist jetzt bei 90352b4... Release wallabag 2.1.5
[18:47] <stevie86> scripts/install.sh: 15: scripts/install.sh: composer.phar: not found
[18:47] <stevie86> PHP Warning: require(/media/smallsafe/html/wallabag/app/../vendor/autoload.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /media/smallsafe/html/wallabag/app/autoload.php on line 9
[18:47] <stevie86> PHP Fatal error: require(): Failed opening required '/media/smallsafe/html/wallabag/app/../vendor/autoload.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /media/smallsafe/html/wallabag/app/autoload.php on line 9
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[18:50] <mfa298> cluelessperson: check what images you're using, if it's an iso that might imply it's an x86 debian which won't work on the pi which uses arm
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[18:51] <mfa298> stevie86: if you're going to paste lots of text use pastebin or similar, spamming it onto irc is likely to get you ignored or kicked.
[18:51] <leftyfb> stevie86: try installing php-pear and then try again
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[18:52] <redrabbit> dpaste > rest
[18:52] <cluelessperson> mfa298, that's obvious, but I haven't even tried to boot yet
[18:52] <cluelessperson> just preparing
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[18:54] <stevie86> got it, I had to install composer globally
[18:54] <mfa298> cluelessperson: you may also want to note that debian probably isn't compatible with all Pi's (it'll probably only work on the Pi2/Pi3 which is why raspbian exists)
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[18:57] <cluelessperson> mfa298, Welp, I'm looking to remaster raspian then
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[18:58] <mfa298> It was the cae that Debian/Ubuntu were compiled for arm7, and the Pi1/Pi0 are arm6.
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[19:00] <MrLawrence> Is there a way to have instead of an SC card, some kind of ROM that I flash the data into from the computer?
[19:00] <MrLawrence> I find SD technology to be fairly unreliable
[19:01] <mfa298> MrLawrence: for the Pi3 it can be set to boot from USB / Network instead.
[19:01] <mfa298> but USB flash drives may not be much better than SD cards
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[19:02] <HerculeP> RPi can boot w/o a SD card (still experimentel tho)
[19:02] <HerculeP> RPi3*
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[19:02] <MrLawrence> mfa298, how do I boot from the network?
[19:03] <MrLawrence> All the SD cards I've got are broken
[19:03] <MrLawrence> and there is nothing installed in the Pi
[19:03] <MrLawrence> I've got a Pi3 model B
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[19:03] <mfa298> you need an SD card to configure it
[19:03] <MrLawrence> is there no other way?
[19:03] <mfa298> and as HerculeP said, it's still experimental
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[19:04] <mfa298> you need an SD card to set the OTP bits to enable boot from USB/PXE
[19:04] <mfa298> try https://github.com/raspberrypi/documentation/blob/master/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/msd.md
[19:04] <mfa298> and https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=155167
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[19:05] <mfa298> I think that's mostly about booting from USB, but network booting will be similar except the files come via tftp
[19:05] <HerculeP> I mangege once to boot fro a usb-stick but somehow it stopped working, even destroyed two sd cards when I tried to reinstall nw boot
[19:06] <clever> when i was messing with the network boot, a 100% SD-card free boot didnt work, loading bootcode.bin over tftp caused something to mess up
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[19:06] <clever> but if i put ONLY bootcode.bin, and nothing else (not even config.txt) on the SD card (after setting the OTP bits), it can grab start.elf/config.txt/kernel.img over tftp
[19:07] <mfa298> alternatively get a good SD card. Mine have all been fairly reliable.
[19:07] <clever> i'm expecting that to improve with future versions of bootcode.bin
[19:07] <HerculeP> ^^
[19:07] <mfa298> My Pi2 has been going for best part of a year and is constantly writing data to the SD card.
[19:08] <clever> part of my problem with normal sized SD cards is just mechanical
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[19:08] <clever> the sockets on the older RPI's just seem to wreck cards physicaly
[19:08] <clever> the corners just snap off
[19:08] <clever> MrLawrence: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/README.md
[19:11] <clever> MrLawrence: and on https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/bootflow.md is some more info directly related to your question
[19:11] <clever> MrLawrence: the boot rom in the die supports loading bootcode.bin via NAND flash or SPI flash, but bootcode.bin itself doesnt know how to get start.elf from there yet
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[19:47] <psprint> I want to read Pixel Port of a video decoder. It's 20 pins, activated at LLC pin clock (12MHz .. 110MHz). Will I be able to set up DMA for this job? So that I'll get PAL/NTSC digitized frame in RAM?
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[19:49] <clever> psprint: i think i had trouble bit-banging anything past 20mhz reliably, it felt like it was a sort of FSB issue, and that the gpio side of the die was just not clocked fast enough
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[19:56] <psprint> :(
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[20:02] <Habbie> psprint, you could try SPI sniffing
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[20:08] <Tomin> Hi! Do you know if there is a GPIO on RPi (model B) that could be used to detect whether RPi has booted or if it's shut down?
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[20:09] <psprint> clever: here they've obtained 22 MHz as the limit, so pretty close: http://codeandlife.com/2012/07/03/benchmarking-raspberry-pi-gpio-speed/
[20:09] <H__> why not make one ?
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[20:16] <Tomin> Is it possible to just set some config value to have such detection? I mean tell Linux to set a pin high on boot and then set it low on shutdown? I'm using OpenELEC so I would not like to do anything complicated
[20:17] <Tomin> (on Raspbian systemd could probably to do that for me with a single config)
[20:18] <Tomin> I'm making a circuit that tells Raspberry to boot when certain remote button is pressed but I would not like it to reset it while it's in use (probably won't be a problem, but if someone happened to play with the remote)
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[20:20] <BurtyB> Tomin, iirc someone said there was a kernel module
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[20:46] <Tomin> BurtyB: I could not find that, but it seems that it's not too hard to have scripts on OpenELEC at boot and shutdown. Now I just need to figure out a way to set the pins
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[21:02] <ghostcartpi> hey folks
[21:02] <ghostcartpi> anyoneknow why my pi would not be renewing its connection with the router?
[21:02] <ghostcartpi> it keeps getting "exp0:expired"
[21:03] <ghostcartpi> then I have to toggle wifi to get it to reconnect properly
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[21:20] <hmoney> .
[21:20] <hmoney> ghost i've heard of people having issues with that before, i know there's a fix but i cant remember why
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[21:20] <hmoney> i think it has to do with the usb dongle going to 'sleep for a power save mode.. let me see what i can find on google
[21:22] <hmoney> https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-3-network-setup/test-and-configure#fixing-wifi-dropout-issues
[21:22] <hmoney> maybe try that?
[21:23] <hmoney> also this: http://itsbrent.net/2014/05/fixing-raspberry-pi-wifi-dropping/
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[21:38] <sigma__> Broly: I think it was you a month or two ago who helped me disable power management for a USB wireless adapter on a Pi Zero. If so, do you recall how you had me accomplish this?
[21:38] <sigma__> I've found a few ways to do it searching online, but none of them seem to be applied on my pi. I want to replicate the same configuration to a new pi so they match.
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[21:39] <ghostcartpi> seriously it's getting irritating
[21:40] <SpeedEvil> sigma__: google
[21:40] <SpeedEvil> sigma__: raspberrypi irc yournick otherperson
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[22:00] <redrabbit> its something with iwconfig
[22:00] <redrabbit> hes looking for
[22:01] <sigma__> redrabbit: I know I can run something like iwconfig wlan0 power off, but I'm not sure if that's what I did before. Doesn't appear in my shell history anywhere.
[22:02] <sigma__> I'm also not sure if that change persists after a reboot.
[22:02] <redrabbit> put it in interfaces
[22:02] <sigma__> It's not there now.
[22:02] <redrabbit> up iwconfig wlan0 power off
[22:02] <redrabbit> in network/interfaces
[22:03] <sigma__> It's not there already. I'm trying to figure out what I've already done.
[22:03] <redrabbit> mkay
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[22:05] <Broly> sigma__: it's a line you put in your wpasupplicant iirc
[22:05] <Broly> to disable power saving mode
[22:05] <sigma__> I don't see anything there either, unfortunately.
[22:06] <Broly> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46569&p=666920
[22:06] <Broly> sorry /etc/network/interfaces
[22:06] <Broly> wireless-power off
[22:06] <sigma__> Nope.
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[22:06] <Brian1001> hi everyone
[22:07] <sigma__> Maybe I ran the iwconfig command and it's just no longer in my history.
[22:07] <Broly> one sec let me lookat logs then
[22:07] <sigma__> Okay.
[22:07] <Broly> nah we added a line to a config file
[22:07] <sigma__> Gotta make a phone call. afk for a few minutes.
[22:08] <Brian1001> could i use a SD card to write a JPEG file to it every 2 sec ?
[22:09] <Broly> nuts i can't dig through these log files at ths time. too many. sorry man it's somewhere in there. :/
[22:09] <Brian1001> i made a tiny script that downloads a JPG from a camera and places it locally in our debian server , it works but im thinking to replace the server with a RASPBERRy pi, its just 5V xD
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[22:09] <H__> Brian1001: how large are said jpeg's ?
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[22:10] <Brian1001> tiny , im checking
[22:10] <Brian1001> 12kB
[22:11] <Brian1001> the idea to write every 2 secs to a SD card scares me thats all :P
[22:11] <sigma__> Every 2 seconds?
[22:11] <Brian1001> yes
[22:11] <Brian1001> its sadly needed for the IP phones (they cant go directly to the IP cam
[22:12] <sigma__> That is not a problem unless you're writing large files which take longer than 2 seconds to write.
[22:12] <sigma__> Broly: No worries.
[22:12] <Brian1001> no, just 12kB , and i think the lifespan of the SD card shouldnt be a problem either for a few years ? .....i hope :)
[22:12] <sigma__> Brian1001: Go nuts.
[22:13] <Brian1001> you mean its a bad idea ?
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[22:14] <BurtyB> if you don't need it to be persistant why not write it to tmpfs mount
[22:15] <Brian1001> to the TMP directory ?
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[22:15] <Brian1001> (sorry im new with linux / raspberry)
[22:15] <Brian1001> i was thinking about just placing it simply in the /tmp folder so that it wouldn't write it to the SD card all the time
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[22:17] <BurtyB> Brian1001, tmpfs is a filesystem in memory so you wouldn't wear the SD
[22:17] <Brian1001> excellent
[22:17] <Brian1001> tmpfs = the /tmp folder ?
[22:18] <HrdwrBoB> Brian1001: the SD card uses a wear algorithm
[22:18] <HrdwrBoB> a modern SD card could write 12k/2 minutes for many years
[22:18] <sigma__> Brian1001: It's not a bad idea. Set it up and monitor your disk IO.
[22:18] <HrdwrBoB> but tmpfs would be better if it's ephemeral
[22:19] <Brian1001> then i just place the IMAGE file in the /tmp folder
[22:19] <sigma__> I don't think /tmp is a tmpfs filesystem by default.
[22:19] <sigma__> Perhaps make a new one for your project.
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[22:47] <mete> no /tmp is not a tmpfs by default Brian1001
[22:48] <mete> you can add a line in /etc/fstab to create one, I have a 50MB tmpfs in /tmp
[22:48] <mete> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,nosuid,size=50m 0 0
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[22:48] <mete> I store my sensore readings there to process them then
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[23:19] <StigTore> Greetings
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[23:20] <StigTore> I have an unusual usecase I'd like to run by you folks for a basic sanity check (feasability, not my sanity, the latter is already established as poor)
[23:21] <StigTore> Say I have a raspberry pi 3, and a chromebook. Say I want a remote desktop server on the pi, accessed from the chromebook, preferably over bluetooth. How insane an idea is that?
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[23:32] <WereSquirrel> Well bluetooth has a pretty low bandwidth (In my experience only about 128KB/s) so that's pretty likely to rule out the ability to play games or do any kind of video watching just at that
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[23:33] <WereSquirrel> You might be able to work something out with using the pi as an AP and have more luck on that front
[23:34] <StigTore> Thought the bandwidth was a bit more than that. :(
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[23:35] <StigTore> The AP option is a viable one, but would require a wi-fi dongle in addition to allow the pi to connect to a network with internet.
[23:36] <HrdwrBoB> unless it's a pi3
[23:36] <WereSquirrel> It sounds like you have an existing wifi network, is there a reason you don't want to use it for the remote desktop? Security concern?
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[23:37] <StigTore> Thought that only had one wifi chip. And if I use the pi as an AP that would use that network.
[23:37] <HrdwrBoB> ah yes
[23:37] <HrdwrBoB> sorry my bad
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[23:37] <StigTore> While I'm at home, that is a viable option. But for being on the move, with the pi in a bag with a big battery that might not be a very good option.
[23:38] <WereSquirrel> Hmmm
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[23:38] <WereSquirrel> I see why you're asking now
[23:39] <WereSquirrel> Are you hosting media on the pi like videos that you want to watch on the chromebook?
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[23:41] <shrimp> what would i need to do to get an RPi set up similar to an arduino where i can use it for voltage control for small DC motors and whatnot?
[23:41] <StigTore> The plan is more along the lines of having a persistent box doing work, even while I'm not using the chromebook. The pi running headless can run for a long time on a decent portable battery.
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[23:43] <StigTore> Basically the whole idea comes from the realization that whenever you buy a laptop, you basically have to re-buy loads of parts that are essentially reusable (screen, keyboard, etc). The hardware might need an upgrade, but the peripherals are essentially thrown out for no good reason. So, if I take a fairly cheap, but durable chromebook I have what amounts of a basic thin client for any SBC I want.
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[23:45] <StigTore> And thanks the the invention of wireless communication, that SBC can be anywhere on or near my person, and basically be a pi, a case, and a battery in my laptop bag.
[23:46] <StigTore> shrimp, something like https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-dc-and-stepper-motor-hat-for-raspberry-pi/overview ?
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[23:46] <shrimp> something like that, yeah
[23:47] <shrimp> i was talking with the people in the arduino people and they said you need a motor shield
[23:47] <shrimp> for the arduino anyways
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[23:48] <StigTore> shrimp, Pretty sure it's required for the pi as well, or some advanced electronics skill. The GPIO pins are not able to output the kind of voltage needed by most motors.
[23:49] <shrimp> StigTore, 9v would be too much?
[23:50] <StigTore> The highest you have on the pi is 5V.
[23:50] <shrimp> oh
[23:50] <shrimp> hm
[23:50] <StigTore> And I have absolutely no idea how much load you can put on that without frying something. So shield is probably your best bet.
[23:51] <shrimp> kk
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[23:53] <StigTore> Also, the GPIO pins themselves are 3.3V. The 5V pins are just power.
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