#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2017-02-11

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[21:18] <chisight> cub28: your resolution, color depth and frame rate are very doable on a good spi graphic lcd.
[21:18] <cub28> any links where i could look at the product?
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[21:19] <chisight> maybe crystal graphics is a place to look.
[21:19] <cub28> im not even halfway hardcore on this, ive only dabbles in a couple feather boards and one arduino uno board
[21:19] <cub28> ok?
[21:19] <cub28> i dunno -_-
[21:19] <cub28> i was just hoping i could bring an idea to the table and with help and guidance i could make it happen :)
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[21:20] <chisight> raspberry is very different from arduino. the existence of an os has a big impact on best case performance.
[21:20] <cub28> yeah i figured. seems rasberry is more advanced
[21:22] <cub28> so where can i look at chrystal screens for sale?
[21:23] <cub28> crystal*
[21:23] <cub28> im excited about doing this but not about programming it
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[21:24] <cub28> i was proud of this lol https://imgur.com/hN4Yfi5
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[21:24] <chisight> that advanced comes at a cost for some things. you'll have to do something to convert your gif to a bit stream, then use dma to get that plus any screen commands to spi. you won't be able to just push it to spi in a loop because the os will only run your code part of the time.
[21:25] * cub28 sighs
[21:25] <chisight> crystal graphics has a website with a store front.
[21:25] <cub28> it almost doesnt seem worth it
[21:26] <cub28> be back soon (at work)
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[21:28] <mattwj2002> JakeSays:
[21:28] <mattwj2002> JakeSays: setup is via command line :)
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[21:33] <solars> hi, I've got one of these USB remote controls but can't find any tutorials how to use it on raspbian - can anyone maybe give me a pointer? https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1twL7KVXXXXXfXpXXq6xXFXXXS/Convenient-Multifunction-USB-IR-font-b-Compute-b-font-font-b-Remote-b-font-font-b.jpg
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[21:35] <leftyfb> solars: it's probably seen as an HID device. Plug it in, login to the console with a keyboard, open an editor like nano or vim and start pressing buttons on the remote. It might just output hex codes or letters or something
[21:37] <chisight> cub28: the "easy" but more expensive path is to get an hdmi screen or the raspberry pi lcd touch screen. then you just convert your video to h264 on your pc and play it with omxplayer.
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[21:39] <solars> leftyfb: nothing, but it's listed in lsusb as xenta pc remote
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[21:40] <solars> leftyfb: I want to use it as a generic receive to turn on my tv if IR signals are received
[21:40] <solars> not sure if it works or I need a normal IR sensor for gpio
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[21:41] <leftyfb> solars: I don't understand. You want to use a $35 raspberry pi with a ~$10-$20 IR receiver to turn your tv on and off instead of a $5 universal remote from walmart?
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[21:42] <solars> leftyfb: haha, I want to control the power socket it's connected to, to avoid standby, first press on the tv remote turns on socket, second turns on tv
[21:43] <solars> part of a home automation system
[21:44] <leftyfb> ok, you would have to look up instructions for your IR receiver/remote to understand how it works.
[21:45] <solars> hm ok
[21:45] <solars> it's recognized in lsusb as Xenta SE340D PC Remote Control
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[21:48] <leftyfb> solars: personally I use these to do my home automation: http://a.co/dnO3Zwo
[21:48] <leftyfb> I use my phone or Alexa to turn on my tv
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[21:50] <sockofleas> mattwj2002: im still struggling here
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[21:51] <solars> leftyfb: exactly but I want to go one step further and use only the tv remote
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[21:51] <mattwj2002> hi sockofleas
[21:51] <mattwj2002> me too at the moment
[21:51] <sockofleas> what are u working on
[21:51] <mattwj2002> alexa-pi :)
[21:53] <cub28> <chisight> cub28: the "easy" but more expensive path is to get an hdmi screen or the raspberry pi lcd touch screen. then you just convert your video to h264 on your pc and play it with omxplayer. <<< How much would that be??
[21:53] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: what is wrong and how can I help?
[21:53] <cub28> if its only gonna cost about 100 bucks total then i can do it i guess
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[21:53] <sockofleas> im also doing alexa-pi
[21:54] <chisight> I'm not a store, i don't have pricing. the price will vary, your location has a big impact.
[21:54] <sockofleas> any chance you're in the hackathon hackers fb group?
[21:54] <cub28> ah
[21:54] <cub28> what should i search for then?
[21:54] <cub28> im in florida
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[21:55] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: I am not
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[21:55] <leftyfb> cub28: the touch screen is about $70-$80
[21:55] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: I can't get to the web page!
[21:56] <chisight> in the us, i would expect all the paths to be under $100. if you have that budget, I'd get the pi touch screen off amazon and be done with it.
[21:56] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: are you having sound issues?
[21:56] <sockofleas> how do i test the mic?
[21:56] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: not sure
[21:56] <mattwj2002> I don't even know how to start the app
[21:56] <mattwj2002> :-s
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[21:58] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: making progress
[21:58] <mattwj2002> :)
[21:58] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: 5 minutes please
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[22:00] <HeathHayleiOS6> cybr1d: did you see my pm?
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[22:00] <chisight> cub28: there is also a 3.5" touch screen for a lot less. https://www.amazon.com//dp/B013E0IJVE/
[22:01] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: rebooting pi now
[22:01] <mattwj2002> :D
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[22:03] <sockofleas> mattwj2002: im following this tutorial: http://lifehacker.com/how-to-build-your-own-amazon-echo-with-a-raspberry-pi-1787726931
[22:03] <cub28> leftyfb, what page is that one?
[22:04] <mattwj2002> oh sockofleas
[22:04] <mattwj2002> we are working on different things i think
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[22:04] <sockofleas> ok
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[22:04] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: this is what i am working on
[22:04] <leftyfb> cub28: adafruit, amazon, sparkfun, RS, element14, ebay, microcenter
[22:04] <mattwj2002> https://github.com/alexa-pi/AlexaPi/wiki/Installation
[22:05] <cub28> wow 70 bucks, what about the pi board?
[22:05] <leftyfb> pi board?
[22:05] <cub28> rasbery
[22:05] <leftyfb> cub28: are you asking how much a raspberry pi is?
[22:06] <cub28> you saying theyre all the same?
[22:06] <cub28> theres just one rasberry?
[22:06] <leftyfb> they're not
[22:06] <leftyfb> there's several
[22:06] <cub28> ok, how much is a cheap one?
[22:06] <leftyfb> cub28: $5
[22:06] <cub28> sheeit...
[22:06] <cub28> is it worth buying? lol
[22:06] <leftyfb> cub28: why are you here?
[22:07] <cub28> because i know nothing about rasberry and trying to get an idea of everything
[22:07] <chisight> cub28: it will meet the needs of the project.
[22:07] <hmoney> mattjw2002: i heard the delay is like 3+ seconds from issuing a command -> response from alexa
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[22:07] <cub28> thank you, thats what i was figuring out with budget too
[22:07] <SpeedEvil> hmoney: It depends.
[22:07] <SpeedEvil> hmoney: possibly about that
[22:07] <leftyfb> cub28: a typical/popular raspberry pi 3 costs $35, plus the cost of a microSD card and a 2.5A power adapter
[22:08] <cub28> ok so it wont run off a usb connection?
[22:08] <ankr> Hello people. I have a rpi1mB running retropie. I was trying to play my good ol' game Mario Cart 64 -- which is running very very laggy. Do you guys think a rpi3 would be up for the task running this game through emulator?
[22:08] <hmoney> cub28: check out www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi for a better overview of what people do with the pi's
[22:08] <leftyfb> chisight: actually, a pi zero will not meet the needs of his project if he intends to plug it into the official pi touchscreen
[22:08] <chisight> oh.
[22:08] <cub28> hmoney, its okay. i just want to know i can do MY project. i realize, now, by talking to you guys that anything less is not the way to go
[22:09] <hmoney> with most projects you can find a similar build has already been done and published online :P
[22:09] <malimaj> leftyfb: power adapter can be also 2Amp important is that is max 5Volts
[22:10] <leftyfb> malimaj: 2.5A is highly recommended if he plans to do anything with it other than headless.
[22:10] <hmoney> speedevil: do you have a pi alexa setup?
[22:10] <cub28> its kinda gettin chinese in language here...
[22:10] <cub28> i used a bitmap tocpp program for my other projects. is there something similar for gif files or do i have to just go straight video with hdmi
[22:10] <SpeedEvil> hmoney: no
[22:11] <SpeedEvil> hmoney: I mean response in general
[22:11] <leftyfb> cub28: 2/2.5Amp is the current rating of the usb power adapter you use to power the pi. All (decent) power adapters have this rating printed on them. Not all of them actually provide the current they advertise
[22:11] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: are you still there/
[22:11] <mattwj2002> ?
[22:11] <mattwj2002> :0
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[22:11] <hmoney> he ded
[22:11] <sockofleas> yup
[22:11] <cub28> ah ok
[22:11] <chisight> leftyfb: why, the zero has spi, just like the others.
[22:11] <hmoney> nvm he alive
[22:11] <cub28> good to know :)
[22:11] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: any luck
[22:11] <sockofleas> no
[22:11] <mattwj2002> I am bat striking out
[22:11] <mattwj2002> :-s
[22:12] <hmoney> matt w/ the alexa install?
[22:12] <hmoney> what are you stuck on?
[22:12] <mattwj2002> alexa-pi
[22:12] <ankr> Disregard my question -- I found #retropie
[22:12] <leftyfb> chisight: the official pi touchscreen uses the DSI port on the pi which is not present on the pi zero
[22:12] <chisight> leftyfb: the 3.5" one is spi.
[22:13] <cub28> brb
[22:13] <malimaj> cub28: my advice is to buy a powered usb hub with power button
[22:13] <leftyfb> chisight: there is no official 3.5" pi display
[22:13] <chisight> i never suggested the official one. i only linked the 3.5" spi.
[22:13] <malimaj> cub28: I tried several power adapters and at the and I bought a hub...
[22:13] <hmoney> have you guys actually gotten good use out of the 3.5 TFT screens?
[22:14] <hmoney> i bought three of them and tbh after getting one setup i wasnt impressed
[22:14] <leftyfb> chisight: this entire time, I have only referred to the official 7" touch screen display
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[22:14] <mattwj2002> hmoney: do you know how to run this dang thing over bluetooth?
[22:14] <leftyfb> hmoney: depends on it's purpose
[22:14] <mattwj2002> https://github.com/alexa-pi/AlexaPi/wiki/Installation
[22:15] <hmoney> mattjw: you mean to have alexa respond via a bluetooth speaker attached to the pi?
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[22:15] <hmoney> get it working with 3.5 audio out first -.-
[22:15] <chisight> ok. we're talking different approaches leftyfb. yours won't work with the zero.
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[22:15] <swift110> hmm
[22:15] <swift110> wow alexa on pi
[22:16] <swift110> I like the idea of voice control on pi
[22:16] <leftyfb> swift110: the alexa-pi requires hitting a button before getting it to respond
[22:17] <swift110> hmm
[22:17] <leftyfb> swift110: to be honest, after all is said and done, it makes more sense to just buy an echo dot.
[22:17] <swift110> can that button be on the keyboard
[22:17] <chisight> cub28: you'll have to shop carefully to keep under $100 for leftyfb's 7" approach and the $5 pi won't work. the 3.5" will easily be under budget and will work with the $5 pi.
[22:18] <mattwj2002> hmoney: I give up
[22:19] <hmoney> rip matt
[22:19] <mattwj2002> I am going to do the same project as sockofleas instead :)
[22:19] <hmoney> tbh i think buying a dot is the way to go
[22:19] <mattwj2002> I don't this this project on github is ready for primetime
[22:19] <hmoney> especially since plex added dot integration like a week ago
[22:19] <mattwj2002> :)
[22:19] <sockofleas> mate, my project is just as fucked
[22:20] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: i have done yours before
[22:20] <swift110> oh ok
[22:20] <sockofleas> then what are u doing with the other one
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[22:20] <swift110> https://diyhacking.com/best-voice-recognition-software-for-raspberry-pi/
[22:21] <swift110> is there a raspberry pi group on telegram
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[22:22] <mattwj2002> sorry powered off the wrong linux machine :P
[22:22] <leftyfb> swift110: why would you want there to be if most people are here?
[22:22] <mattwj2002> to answer your question....i am going to reinstall raspbian
[22:22] <mattwj2002> :)
[22:23] <swift110> leftyfb: because I find telegram easier to use on my phone instead of irc
[22:23] <hmoney> any ham guys here running ham-pi related stuff on the pi?
[22:23] <leftyfb> swift110: doesn't help if nobody is on it though
[22:23] <mattwj2002> ham pi sounds gross
[22:23] <mattwj2002> :P
[22:23] <swift110> leftyfb: that is very true
[22:24] <mattwj2002> as in ham with raspberries :P
[22:24] <hmoney> that sounds terrible
[22:24] <swift110> leftyfb: I was hoping there was a well established group so I wasn't expecting that to be an issue
[22:24] <swift110> actually ham with a nice raspberry sauce could be pretty good
[22:24] <leftyfb> swift110: this is the well established group
[22:24] <mattwj2002> I am doing the lifehacker one in a second here
[22:24] <mattwj2002> ;)
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[22:25] <swift110> leftyfb: you are missing my point
[22:25] <mattwj2002> once i get this rpi3 with a fresh image
[22:25] <mattwj2002> :)
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[22:25] <mattwj2002> I don't know what all that scripting did that could cause me issues
[22:25] <sockofleas> stop smiling
[22:26] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: sorry
[22:26] <swift110> Has anyone else installed Blender on their pi 3?
[22:26] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: once i get caught up we can work on this together
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[22:27] <sockofleas> im switching to your tutorial
[22:27] <sockofleas> lol
[22:27] <mattwj2002> haha
[22:27] <mattwj2002> best of luck
[22:27] <mattwj2002> ;P
[22:27] <sockofleas> what was ur problem with alexapi
[22:28] <mattwj2002> there is no program to run
[22:28] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: i rather do it the offical amazon way
[22:29] <mattwj2002> than some dudes script anyways
[22:29] <sockofleas> the official amazon way is awful
[22:29] <sockofleas> there is no program either
[22:29] <sockofleas> you have to run 3 terminal windows and load the web browser with no option for autorun on boot
[22:30] <hmoney> their script is open source on github, what's wrong with that?
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[22:31] <damntourists> hello
[22:32] <hmoney> HOWDY
[22:32] <damntourists> quick question -- it appears my raspberry pi's SD card has corrupted. should i obtain a new sd card or would formatting it and restoring a backed up image make it like new again?
[22:32] <hmoney> should just be able to format it
[22:32] <hmoney> try and see
[22:33] <damntourists> whelp
[22:33] <damntourists> ok
[22:33] <damntourists> here we go. weeeee
[22:33] <hmoney> it's possible your backup image is corrupted tho, so if that fails then try a fresh raspbian installation on the sd
[22:34] <damntourists> the backup shouldn't be (at least i hope not).. when i made the backup i had purchased a brand new sd card, set up everything how i wanted it and made a clone of the sd card
[22:34] <damntourists> then just stashed it away on my NAS just in case this situation were to come up
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[22:35] <damntourists> i'd really hate to lose all of this. :c
[22:35] <hmoney> yeah
[22:35] <hmoney> should be fine man
[22:35] <damntourists> i'll go ahead and give it a go then.
[22:35] <hmoney> was the image made on the same pi?
[22:35] <hmoney> like going from a pi3 to a pi3?
[22:36] <damntourists> yeah, it was made on a pi2
[22:36] <damntourists> same pi and everything
[22:36] <hmoney> then ye should be fine
[22:36] <damntourists> i made sure to make a separate one for my pi3
[22:36] <hmoney> prob lots of upgrades
[22:36] <malimaj> damntourists: how did it happen that your sdcard got corrupted?
[22:36] <damntourists> no idea
[22:36] <damntourists> i rebooted it and noticed it being slow, tailed the /var/log/syslog and it's spewing out a bunch of lightdm failures
[22:37] <damntourists> and i noticed my sabnzbdplus /etc/init.d/ files now have all sorts of characters scattered around the file, making it all invalid syntax
[22:37] <hmoney> ya that's kinda fked
[22:37] <damntourists> i've had this happen once before
[22:37] <malimaj> once I "burned" the sdcard because I did unplugg the power when the sistem was booting.
[22:37] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: did it work at all for you?
[22:38] <cub28> ok, i just skimmed over everything and it looks like i wanna go with the 3.5 display and $5 pi
[22:38] <cub28> is that right?
[22:38] <cub28> thats a good combo?
[22:39] <hmoney> is that one that you need the gpio pins for?
[22:39] <cub28> wait, can i program it with windows??
[22:39] <hmoney> if so, do you know how to solder?
[22:39] <damntourists> @hmoney @malimaj http://pastebin.com/fvTtavdk
[22:39] <cub28> i can solder yes but dont know what gpio is
[22:39] <cub28> assume i know nothing about pi
[22:39] <cub28> coz i dont lol
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[22:40] <hmoney> then buy a pi3, pi zeros create a lot of extra work for simple things..
[22:40] <damntourists> gpio are the pins on the pi that are pointed vertically
[22:40] <swift110> hmoney: I agree
[22:40] <cub28> pi3, 3.5 display and win10 can program yes?
[22:40] <hmoney> pizero: $5, wifi dongle: $10, usb hub: $10 or more?
[22:40] <swift110> Yes, pi zeroes are inexpensive from first glance, but once you buy the extra parts that you need the price can go up quite a bit.
[22:40] <hmoney> that's almost the same cost as a pi3
[22:41] <swift110> Yes
[22:41] <hmoney> cub you can program the pi with anything
[22:41] <mattwj2002> pi0 has a nice kit on adfruit for $25
[22:41] <hmoney> you just need an ssh client
[22:41] <mattwj2002> :)
[22:41] <hmoney> which you can get for windows. i use putty
[22:41] <mattwj2002> though I had a few parts i all ready had I throw at mine
[22:41] <swift110> I actually feel that owning a pi 3 is cheaper because it already has bluetooth and wifi built in and I love that
[22:42] <hmoney> yeah i agree
[22:42] <cub28> putty is just for shooting quick commands to it right?
[22:42] <cub28> ugh...theres so much ~-~
[22:42] <hmoney> putty is for accessing the pi remotely over a network
[22:42] <hmoney> there's guides that hold your hand and walk you through step by step
[22:42] <cub28> well i used putty with a mini usb to my feather board
[22:42] <swift110> Getting a Pi zero is easily an impulse buy because its only $5
[22:43] <swift110> I have two of them and I almost never use them
[22:43] <hmoney> i think the pi zero's were made to be piholes and dakboards
[22:43] <cub28> dankboards
[22:43] <swift110> granted i see potential for pi zeroes in certain things because of their small size
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[22:43] <hmoney> i have a zero powered by the usb 2.0 port on my router and have a usb to ethernet adapter on it
[22:43] <cub28> what was that site that has the tutorials for this?
[22:44] <hmoney> it hangs right behind my router and works like a champ
[22:44] <hmoney> cub i literally google what im looking for
[22:44] <hmoney> for example "raspi wifi setup"
[22:44] <cub28> yeah but u know what ur googling
[22:44] <hmoney> etc etc
[22:44] <hmoney> raspi projects
[22:44] <hmoney> then
[22:44] <cub28> etc is at nausium
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[22:44] * hmoney slaps cub28 around a bit with a large trout
[22:44] <cub28> lmao
[22:44] <sockofleas> mattwj2002: still loading
[22:45] <cub28> i needed that xD
[22:45] <swift110> lol
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[22:45] <hmoney> cub28: http://lifehacker.com/the-always-up-to-date-guide-to-setting-up-your-raspberr-1781419054
[22:45] <cub28> yay :D
[22:45] <swift110> I would use the pi 3 more if I had something like vlc working properly
[22:45] <hmoney> actually i dont love that guide
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[22:46] <hmoney> it uses noobs
[22:46] <cub28> *link saved*
[22:47] <cub28> and where do u recommend i buy the components?
[22:47] <hmoney> if you live in the US close to a microcenter then i'd buy them there
[22:47] <cub28> im in the panhandle of florida
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[22:47] <hmoney> otherwise amazon/ebay/pimoroni/adafruit/(add others here)
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[22:48] <cub28> i think i may get it cheaper away from adafruit?
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[22:48] <hmoney> ?
[22:48] <cub28> i like ada but sometimes u have to pull teach to get them to help u
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[22:48] <cub28> im saying i think i can go cheaper if i get it somewhere other than adafruit.com
[22:48] <hmoney> what's your main goal for the pi
[22:48] <cub28> to be able to play the gif files on a small screen
[22:49] <swift110> I like microcenter
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[22:49] <cub28> i'd like to set it up in the office so customers and tenant have something to look at while i run the paperwork lol
[22:49] <hmoney> that sounds silly as ____
[22:49] <cub28> shi
[22:49] <cub28> t
[22:49] <swift110> lol
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[22:50] <cub28> might sound like it but yourd appreciate it if u felt like you were in a waiting room
[22:50] <hmoney> if i was 14 maybe
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[22:50] <cub28> xD hey dont judge me
[22:50] <hmoney> most people pull out their phones
[22:50] <hmoney> if you want something for a waiting room setup something connected to a monitor/tv
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[22:51] <hmoney> not a baby screen
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[22:51] <cub28> i work at a self storage place. you have to stand
[22:51] <cub28> and they wait at the desk that has a counter top
[22:51] <hmoney> http://dakboard.com/blog/diy-wall-display/
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[22:51] <mattwj2002> what is this magic mirror I keep on hearing about?
[22:51] <hmoney> you can make that and put it on any size screen
[22:52] <cub28> but if it has to be big or normal size then theres no reason to do it at all
[22:52] <hmoney> cub28: moot point
[22:52] <cub28> these are neat little drawn by hand gifs that i just wanna share
[22:52] <hmoney> your customers are coming for your service, not your gifs...
[22:52] <cub28> i know that, but they wont mind looking at it if they have to wait.
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[22:53] <hmoney> yeah
[22:53] <hmoney> you'll learn something setting it up, regardless of how people react lol
[22:53] <cub28> itd be a nice conversation piece
[22:53] * mattwj2002 is going through this at the moment https://github.com/alexa/alexa-avs-sample-app/wiki/Raspberry-Pi
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[22:54] <cub28> what was that called? oxmplayer?
[22:54] <cub28> u said i need that?
[22:54] <hmoney> so cub, buy a pi3, microSD, power cable and power supply, and whatever size screen you want
[22:54] <hmoney> omxplayer is what a lot of people use to play video on pi
[22:55] <hmoney> http://lifehacker.com/make-an-animated-gif-photo-frame-with-a-raspberry-pi-1658839211
[22:55] <cub28> ok
[22:55] <cub28> YES
[22:55] <hmoney> that looks similar to what you're actuyally doing
[22:56] <cub28> lemme take a look. thanks!
[22:56] <mattwj2002> this looks really neat http://dakboard.com/blog/diy-wall-display/
[22:56] <hmoney> dakboard is awesome
[22:56] <hmoney> i have one setup
[22:56] <cub28> thats awesome!
[22:56] <cub28> whats with the blinking light tho?
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[22:57] <hmoney> i have it running on a pi zero going mini hdmi to hdmi to an old small lcd tv
[22:57] <hmoney> cub28 no idea, read the guide, figure out why they put it there, decide if you want to put it there
[22:57] <hmoney> imbadatusingcommas
[22:57] <cub28> lol
[22:58] <cub28> k, thanks for the help and pointers. and everyone else for your input too
[22:58] <hmoney> glhf
[22:59] <cub28> glhf?
[22:59] <bub_> good luck have fun
[22:59] <cub28> =)
[22:59] <mattwj2002> hmoney: youarebadatusingspacestoo
[22:59] <mattwj2002> :P
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[23:00] <hmoney> btw cub28, i'd suggest buying a cheap 3.5in tft screen that uses waveshare drivers
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[23:00] <cub28> waveshare? and where do i get that?
[23:00] <cub28> 3.5 tft ok
[23:01] <cub28> brb
[23:02] <hmoney> http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Raspberry-Pi-3-2-TFT-LCD-Display-Kuman-3-5-Inch-480x320-TFT-Touch-Screen-/282338432802?hash=item41bcae9722:g:LMsAAOSwImRYiRW6
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[23:02] <hmoney> i have a few of these, they're fine for the price. i think i found one for $15
[23:02] <cub28> *link saved*
[23:03] <cub28> oooh, nice. i like it :D
[23:03] <cub28> brb
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[23:03] <mattwj2002> hmoney: good price
[23:05] <GreeningGalaxy> Hey, I'm trying to control robots using RPis on an ad-hoc network, and everything's going great except that every few seconds or so the connection seems to freeze for about a second and then resume. Normally packets get sent basically instantly (in a matter of milliseconds) but then suddenly they start not arriving for a whole second or two.
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[23:06] <GreeningGalaxy> anyone know why this might be happening? AFAIK, neither endpoint is under any particularly large CPU load and it seems like the overhead of sending and receiving packets directly should be negligible
[23:06] <GreeningGalaxy> Is that the device firmware hanging while it's figuring out how to route packets, or something more preventable?
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[23:08] <cub28> http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5-320-480-Touch-screen-LCD-Display-Board-pen-for-Raspberry-Pi-3-NEW-SSS-/222368999463?hash=item33c639a827:g:pDEAAOSw65FXtB4S check this one out. i think its the $15 one u were talking about
[23:08] <cub28> looks pretty cool with the case and all
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[23:09] <GreeningGalaxy> I tried it with negligible distance between the antennas and significant antenna gain, so I think crosstalk can be ruled out, even though there are other Wi-Fi networks operating on the same band nearby
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[23:14] <mattwj2002> still compiling
[23:14] <mattwj2002> geez :P
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[23:19] <hmoney> greeninggalaxy try isolating where your hangup is by a bunch of ping tests on each client/endpoint
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[23:19] <JakeSays> GreeningGalaxy: i've never had good luck with pi's and wifi.
[23:19] <hmoney> i have :/
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[23:20] <JakeSays> i've never been able to get it to work reliably
[23:20] <hmoney> only issue with pi wifi i had was on ubuntu mate
[23:20] <hmoney> with the onboard wifi from the pi3
[23:20] <mattwj2002> compile little raspberry pi compile quickly
[23:20] <mattwj2002> haha
[23:20] <GreeningGalaxy> turns out wifi is incredibly complicated and any tool that makes it easy also makes it hard to fix
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[23:21] <bub_> hm, tried using wireshark or some other tool to watch the packets?
[23:21] <GreeningGalaxy> even in a two-endpoint network, the packets just periodically stop arriving
[23:21] <hmoney> what is creating the adhoc? a raspi?
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[23:22] <GreeningGalaxy> I guess I could use wireshark to find out if they're getting stuck in send or receive
[23:22] <GreeningGalaxy> the network is started by one of the two pis that comprise it. Never seen a difference if I start it from my laptop, though.
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[23:22] <GreeningGalaxy> but since ad-hoc is peer-to-peer, I don't think that matters.
[23:23] <hmoney> so one pi is acting as an AP. does that pi have two wifi interfaces?
[23:23] <GreeningGalaxy> No, neither pi is acting as an AP, that's what ad-hoc means. Both are acting as ad-hoc nodes. same standing.
[23:23] <JakeSays> this area is so saturated with wifi hardware
[23:24] <bub_> watching packets over the network is good for debugging
[23:24] <GreeningGalaxy> AP/station is characteristic of infrastructure networks, not ad-hoc.
[23:25] <hmoney> yeah, i guess i consider whatever im connecting to wirelessly to be my AP...
[23:26] <hmoney> either way, i'd think your first step would be a set of pings from each device to see if there's a hangup, followed by wireshark
[23:26] <JakeSays> well, there's obviously a hangup..
[23:26] <bub_> just go with watching packets
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[23:30] <sockofleas> mattwj2002: how do i run alexa with alexapi?
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[23:30] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: no idea
[23:30] <sockofleas> lol
[23:30] <mattwj2002> that is where i got stuck
[23:30] <sockofleas> it said hello when it rebooted
[23:31] <mattwj2002> nice
[23:31] <mattwj2002> I am stuck at the moment
[23:31] <mattwj2002> :-s
[23:33] <dr_willis> wife was ready to kill her alexa the other day. Power went out in middle of night.. alexa rebooted.. said 'Hello' - scared the wife half to death..
[23:33] <JakeSays> lol
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[23:34] <hmoney> dr_willis is it possible to turn that off in the config?
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[23:35] <mattwj2002> dr_willis: real alexa or the rpi one?
[23:35] <dr_willis> im not sure. We have 3 of the things.. so we had sterophonic hellos and 'i cant connect to the internet' messages
[23:35] <dr_willis> real ones. ;)
[23:35] <dr_willis> not tried it with a pi yet. since i have 3 allready
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[23:36] <dr_willis> its basically an alarm clock and 'whats the weather today' every morning sort of a tool for me.
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[23:36] <dr_willis> every so often 'alexa play kenny g' ;)
[23:36] <JakeSays> i just ask my wife for a daily weather report
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[23:36] <dr_willis> wife uses her to check the grandkids homework. 'alexa spell elephant'
[23:37] <sockofleas> alexapi is working for me
[23:37] <mattwj2002> sockofleas: how did you get it to work?
[23:37] <sockofleas> idk
[23:37] <sockofleas> followed the instructions
[23:38] <JakeSays> sockofleas: in other words you cheated. lol
[23:39] <sockofleas> pls
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[23:44] <hmoney> sock does that alexapi setup respond to voice or button press?
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[23:51] <cnnx> hi
[23:52] <cnnx> i was looking at different SBC what makes rpi different or better? i only have experience with a board from embeddedarm.com that i bought about 6 years ago
[23:53] <cnnx> is raspian debian ?
[23:53] <hmoney> yep
[23:53] <cnnx> why did they change the name
[23:53] <hmoney> based on debian
[23:53] <cnnx> to make it work on ARM arch?
[23:54] <methuzla> cnnx: pi has excellent community
[23:54] <hmoney> Raspbian is an unofficial port of Debian wheezy armhf with compilation settings adjusted to produce code that uses "hardware floating point", the "hard float" ABI and will run on the Raspberry Pi.
[23:54] <cnnx> is it good to work on part time when im not at work?
[23:54] <hmoney> The port is necessary because the official Debian wheezy armhf release is compatible only with versions of the ARM architecture later than the one used on the Raspberry Pi (ARMv7-A CPUs and higher, vs the Raspberry Pi's ARMv6 CPU).
[23:54] <hmoney> basically yes
[23:54] <GreeningGalaxy> cnnx: the RPi is the best SBC for people new to ARM development because it has the largest userbase of beginners and beginner-friendly experts. Other SBCs may have similar or better specs for lower prices, but will be more difficult to work with.
[23:54] <cnnx> but if i compile something with gcc on debian, i can't run the binary on my debian i4790k cpu right
[23:55] <GreeningGalaxy> and the Pi 3 is still probably the best price I've seen on a board that has physical desktop ports and integrated wireless.
[23:55] <cnnx> i mean on the rpi first
[23:55] <cnnx> it doesnt come with a power supply?
[23:55] <cnnx> i would wanna use it with tmux and irssi at home so i have irssi always connected
[23:55] <GreeningGalaxy> No, but any microUSB phone charger will work
[23:56] <cnnx> that what got me thinking of a rpi use first of all
[23:56] <cnnx> does raspbian come with a GUI desktop
[23:56] <cnnx> with xfce or something
[23:56] <GreeningGalaxy> Yes, it has a new one called PIXEL
[23:56] <cnnx> pixel is the WM?
[23:57] <GreeningGalaxy> I don't know much about it, I think it's a desktop environment that's called PIXEL. not sure what WM it uses.
[23:57] <cnnx> where's the most offciial place to buy a rpi in canada?
[23:57] <cnnx> wm = window manager on linux
[23:57] <hmoney> http://news.softpedia.com/news/raspberry-pi-foundation-unveils-new-lxde-based-desktop-for-raspbian-called-pixel-508756.shtml
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[23:57] <hmoney> i think it's basically lxde with a skin
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[23:57] <cnnx> ok
[23:57] <cnnx> rpi is european?
[23:57] <JakeSays> cnnx: probably the same place that you can get them in the US
[23:58] <GreeningGalaxy> i think they've migrated away from LXDE proper, although it might still share code with it
[23:58] <cnnx> are you guys mostly in europe?
[23:58] <hmoney> im in texas
[23:58] <cnnx> ok
[23:58] <JakeSays> cnnx: its British
[23:58] <cnnx> sounds like a low cost fun thing to play with
[23:58] <JakeSays> it is
[23:58] <cnnx> with lots of power for a linux user/programmer
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[23:58] <cnnx> cause ive been thinking of buying a mack book pro but i already have a 2012 thinkpad
[23:58] <cnnx> and mbp are so expensive
[23:58] <hmoney> https://www.canakit.com/electronic-kits/raspberry-pi
[23:59] <hmoney> canada^
[23:59] <cnnx> i prefer amazon hmoney
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[23:59] <hmoney> then why'd you ask where to buy them in canada -.-
[23:59] <JakeSays> my last pi i got from across the pond
[23:59] <cnnx> hmoney: well when i buy apple products i go to apple.ca so i thought there was a rpi.ca or something

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