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IRC Log for 2017-02-16

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[0:00] <Baikonur> it started its live as a desktopped wheezy, and I absolutely never use it with a display
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[0:01] <ShorTie> Debian does not recommend upgrading from wheezy to jessie, they recommend starting over
[0:01] <hackal> Hi, anyone familiar with calculating real time velocity using accelerometer? Taking the first integration of the readings should give the speed however I am not sure about the accuracy. Any other ways to compute speed?
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[0:05] <SpeedEvil> hackal: you basically can't for more than a handful of seconds.
[0:06] <hackal> that's what I thought, any other ideas?
[0:06] <SpeedEvil> hackal: If you have a millimeter a second a second error (hard), then your velocity uncertainty grows so it's a meter a second after 20 minutes. And you're somewhere within a 500m sphere.
[0:06] <SpeedEvil> ^1000m
[0:06] <SpeedEvil> (diameter)
[0:06] <SpeedEvil> hackal: what are you trying to do.
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[0:07] <hackal> Calculate my speed, basically lets say I have an vehicle moving (its not using wheels).
[0:08] <SpeedEvil> If you mean a UAV, you use GPS.
[0:08] <SpeedEvil> Or optical flow.
[0:08] <SpeedEvil> Perhaps even ultrasound.
[0:08] <willmore> Doppler radar?
[0:08] <SpeedEvil> LIDAR or RADAR, or gravitometric sensing.
[0:08] <hackal> Actually what I can do is to correct the error every X meters because the track I am in has "marks" every X meters.
[0:08] <SpeedEvil> (the last is probably impossible)
[0:08] <SpeedEvil> hackal: What are you actually trying to do.
[0:08] <SpeedEvil> Details matter when selecting sensors.
[0:09] <hackal> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMd_QGmmkgY
[0:09] <hackal> this exactly.
[0:09] <SpeedEvil> you log codes or other things inside the tunnel.
[0:10] <hackal> yeah, there are reflective stripes every X meters.
[0:10] <SpeedEvil> Or more accurately, you read the specification document from spacex which I'm sure I remember has details on that
[0:10] <hackal> so in theory I could calculate speed using only the stripes.
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[0:11] <SpeedEvil> Very easily.
[0:12] <SpeedEvil> As a general point, give a one line description of the video.
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[0:16] <[Saint]> as a pet peeve, I really dislike it when people say velocity when they mean speed.
[0:16] <[Saint]> I haven't seen you mention yet measuring direction, and you need that as well for velocity.
[0:16] <[Saint]> </micro_rant>
[0:16] <drjam> lol
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[0:23] <shauno> using only the stripes is probably the simplest way - you're just timing them (distance between stripes / time since the last stripe)
[0:27] <hackal> If you are interested here is the diagram for the spacing http://i.imgur.com/AMDf6R9.png
[0:28] <shauno> hm. that does complicate it. that's not "every x meters"
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[0:30] <hackal> yes, but we know this before hand so basic counting of the lines is enough
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[0:34] <[Saint]> what if, hypothetically, you change direction of motion?
[0:35] <[Saint]> then simply counting becomes entirely useless and the expected order is broken.
[0:35] <hackal> we can detect the direction of the motion using gyro/accel
[0:36] <hackal> and so add or subtract the stripes based on direction
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[0:37] <[Saint]> since you can't do this "right", can you at least do it in a more sound way?
[0:37] <[Saint]> fe: hall effect sensor?
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[0:45] <hackal> hmm, how could I use the hall effect sensor?
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[0:48] <[Saint]> <sarcasm mode>by leveraging the Hall Effect</sarcasm mode>
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[1:05] <cnnx> i ordered my first rpi yesterday
[1:05] <cnnx> amazon said i will get it tomorow
[1:05] <cnnx> what do you recommend i do first when i get it
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[1:07] <risc> unpack it :P
[1:07] <cnnx> i ordered this kit cause of the reviews, what do you folks think? https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01CCF9BYG/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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[1:09] <cnnx> risc: is the ARM9 cpu on the 3b risc architecture (pun intended)
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[1:14] <cnnx> no one talking here?
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[1:27] <[Saint]> christ that's expensive.
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[1:28] <[Saint]> you paid about $50 USD for a breadboard, a GPIO breakout, a case, and about $5 worth of loose components.
[1:29] <[Saint]> oh, about ~$40 I guess, given the PSU.
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[2:25] <eksu> has anyone had any experience in underclocking the gpu to make more thermal headroom / power to overclock the cpu?
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[2:26] <s3nd1v0g1us> has anyone turned a pi into a tor proxy box?
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[3:02] <ziddey> yeah everyone
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[3:15] <pwillard> even makes a nice DNS blackhole for ads
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[5:12] <ScottSteiner> rain drop
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[5:41] <guideX> exciting night for the raspberry pi zero's, got a powerboost 1000c
[5:41] <guideX> no more giant charging bricks
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[6:20] <kuldeep> Hello, im designing a Hat. issue: how to i know if raspberry pi is running or not.
[6:20] <kuldeep> *how to know
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[6:22] <ksx4system> kuldeep: find GPIO pinout, there should be some voltage on some of pins
[6:22] <ksx4system> no voltage = Pi isn't running ;)
[6:24] <kuldeep> actually im designing a small backup power supply that will signal Rpi that it is running on battery and need to shutdown as quick as possible. so i need to know if rpi is running or not before cutting the battery based power source
[6:25] <kuldeep> ksx4system, ^ trick wont work :)
[6:25] <kuldeep> *your trick wont work
[6:26] <ksx4system> then power the Pi via your hat
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[6:26] <ksx4system> it should be possible to add power via GPIO pins too
[6:27] <ksx4system> this would give full control over power to your hat :)
[6:27] <ksx4system> kuldeep: ^
[6:28] <kuldeep> ksx4system, but the hat has limited power. it is intended to prevent corruption of the SD card. so, before cutting power [backup] , hat need to make sure that rpi has properly shut down
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[6:31] <kuldeep> ksx4system, yes, will power back rpi with the gpio
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[8:08] <chisight> the shutdown system can be configured to set or clear a pin when shutdown is complete.
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[8:09] <chisight> of course you have to prep that at boot, so while booting the pin could be in either state.
[8:10] <guideX> kuldeep: you can buy the powerboost 1000c and the lipoly 1200 mah battery
[8:10] <guideX> I think the battery is small enough to fit on top of a raspberry pi zero
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[8:12] <chisight> i discovered that my generic powerboost bounces it's output off then on as it's charging input is disconnected, so the pi reboots at power failure. :-(
[8:12] <guideX> oh hrm
[8:13] <chisight> I've read that other models have no output at all when charging. including some big brands.
[8:13] <kuldeep> guideX, looking at powerboost 1000c page
[8:14] <guideX> kuldeep, chisight: I just bought my powerboost 1000c and PKCELL LP503562 tonight :D I was previously using a generic power brick
[8:14] <guideX> pretty excited to ditch the extra bulk
[8:15] <chisight> check and make sure power is steady as you connect or disconnect wall power...
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[8:27] <SailorMoon> Someone buy me an Intel Xeon E7-8894
[8:27] <SailorMoon> :3
[8:27] <SailorMoon> wrong channel
[8:27] <SailorMoon> tho feel free lol
[8:29] <Wizard> Hi
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[10:02] <AndChat106409> What's the defaupt password?
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[10:02] <AndChat106409> Tried root:pi raspberry:pi pi:raspberry
[10:02] <AndChat106409> And empty ones
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[10:03] <AndChat106409> Jeez
[10:03] <AndChat106409> Got it
[10:03] <AndChat106409> Nope
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[10:03] <AndChat106409> A shell showed up for fraction of a sec
[10:03] <mfa298> if you mean for raspbian then it's pi:raspberry
[10:03] <AndChat106409> And login incorrect
[10:04] <mfa298> if it's something else then it might be something else
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[10:04] <mfa298> if you saw a shell that would suggest the right password but soemthing else is broken
[10:08] <AndChat106409> mfa298 raspberry:pi Ithink it was after multiple attempts
[10:09] <AndChat106409> Like it was saying denied all the time and then # showed up
[10:09] <AndChat106409> Suggesting root shell
[10:09] <AndChat106409> i got to login now with pi:raspberry
[10:10] <AndChat106409> Ok I got it
[10:10] <AndChat106409> Login to tty multiple times as raspberry:pi ,then root:raspberry
[10:10] <AndChat106409> Root shell shows up for a fraction of a sec
[10:11] <AndChat106409> Not always but shows up close after startup
[10:12] <AndChat106409> must be some kind of bug
[10:12] <AndChat106409> With login manager
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[11:21] <Nia> Trying to set up DreamPi on my Raspberry Pi Zero. I'm having trouble getting it online though. I've tried configuring the wireless and the configuration files look correct to me, but they don't seem to work. The wifi dongle I'm using is the micro one provided by adafruit. More info on my problem (including the configuration files) is here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=174598
[11:22] <Nia> It's now on the 2nd page of the "troubleshooting" section so I was worried nobody would see
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[12:07] <Hanonim> does anyone have experience using a i2c-to-usb adapter with the rpi ? for providing an extra i2c bus
[12:08] <gordonDrogon> do you really need a 2nd bus?
[12:08] <Hanonim> gordonDrogon: i'm exploring options, right now i'm wondering if it is "easy"
[12:08] <Armand> Sometimes my fat backside needs two seats on the bus....
[12:09] <chra94> oh dear
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[12:09] <gordonDrogon> Hanonim, I had an email from one person asking me if I could integrate a usb <-> I2c device into wiringPi, but I've not looked at it myself.
[12:09] <gordonDrogon> I imagine it ought to "just work" if it does the right thing - e.g. via /dev/i2c-N sort of thing.
[12:11] <Hanonim> what happens if wiringPi deals with "/dev/ttyUSBn" instead of i2c-n ?
[12:12] <gordonDrogon> it depends what you open it with. traditionally a /dev/ttyX is a serial port.
[12:14] <gordonDrogon> I'd start by reading the manual/data sheet of the usb adapter you're after using.
[12:14] <gordonDrogon> but now its coffee time :)
[12:15] <Hanonim> well... might be simpler to just plug in an arduino and use it as a "general purpose" extension, really
[12:15] <Hanonim> have a good one
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[12:18] <pksato> My another postponed 'project' to build... http://www.harbaum.org/till/i2c_tiny_usb/index.shtml
[12:19] <pksato> It is not my project. Just want to build it.
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[12:22] <Hanonim> interesting
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[12:28] <gordonDrogon> there is a wiringPi extension that will talk to arduino, but you might need to tweak the atmega side to handle sensors like i2c stuff, etc.
[12:29] <gordonDrogon> the Pi can handle dozens of I2C devices - the issue being when 2 devices have the same ID code - then you can use a multiplexor to add many buses, but only have one 'live'.
[12:29] <gordonDrogon> I've used a system with a multiplexor in the past on a Pi.
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[12:35] <Hanonim> gordonDrogon: since i'm using clojure (hence java), it's not too hard to set a protocol over usb to exchange data with an arduino
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[12:35] <Nia> Trying to set up DreamPi on my Raspberry Pi Zero. I'm having trouble getting it online though. I've tried configuring the wireless and the configuration files look correct to me, but they don't seem to work. The wifi dongle I'm using is the micro one provided by adafruit. More info on my problem (including the configuration files) is here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=174598
[12:36] <Nia> It's now on the 2nd page of the "troubleshooting" section so I was worried nobody would see
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[12:39] <Hanonim> how would you define i2c capabilities for the rpi ? i know i2c can be slow, hence hooking up plenty of sensors and gpio extension on one bus doesn't sound intuitively like a good idea (maybe i am mistaken)
[12:39] <Hanonim> that's why i'm interested in usb extensions (or an arduino based solution)
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[12:42] <mfa298> Hanonim: most i2c sensors are probably only being queried once or twice a second at most and will likely provide a few bytes of data, The bus doesn't need to be super fast for that.
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[12:43] <Hanonim> mfa298: yes, but then when you factor in gpio extension, dac converters and whatnot, which are (very) often queried, i start worrying
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[12:46] <mfa298> if you're trying to get high sample rates with a DAC/ADC you're probably using the wrong bus. Similarly if you'er trying to do lots of gpio toggling via an i2c gpio expander.
[12:46] <HrdwrBoB> my sensor solution is arduino based
[12:47] <HrdwrBoB> then just serial over usb back to the pi
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[12:47] <Hanonim> HrdwrBoB: yes, everything draws me back to this solution
[12:47] <Hanonim> HrdwrBoB: have you established some kind of protocol ?
[12:48] <Hanonim> mfa298: there is SPI, but i understand it is limited to 2 slaves ?
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[12:48] <mfa298> if you're concerned that i2c isn't going to be fast enough I'm not sure that a uart connection is going to be much better
[12:49] <mfa298> I think there are options for >2 slaves on SPI, I believe there's also i2s which might give options for higher speed adc/dac, and there's also a range of normal gpio pins (which you can probably toggle much faster than going through an i2c device)
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[12:52] <Hanonim> connecting an arduino to the rpi through usb won't provide a much better throughput than i2c ?
[12:53] <Hanonim> a question of baudrate more than anything else i asume
[12:53] <gordonDrogon> sorry - been afk.
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[12:54] <gordonDrogon> the Pi's I2C is basically OK. It will run at 100, 400 or 1.2Mb/sec (although I've not managed to get anything running at 1.2Mb )-:
[12:54] <gordonDrogon> actually, it will run at any clock rate.
[12:54] <gordonDrogon> there are some issues with regard to clock stretching, but for the most part it's ok.
[12:54] <gordonDrogon> there are 2 SPI channels, each with 2 select lines.
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[12:59] <mfa298> Hanonim: normally serial devices run at up to 115kbps, and if you're using an arduino you're potentially not going to do much more than that and get anything useful
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[12:59] <mfa298> you've then also got the latency from your code on the arduino processing serial commands and doing the relevant stuff.
[13:00] <gordonDrogon> I'd talk to an arduino via serial rather than Ic2 every single time.
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[13:00] <Hanonim> because it is more convenient or because it is technically more interesting ?
[13:00] <gordonDrogon> it's easier & faster
[13:01] <mfa298> gordonDrogon: I'm not saying serial isn't the right way, but don't expect it to be faster than native i2c (which I tihnk is where that idea started)
[13:01] <gordonDrogon> my first-hand experiences is that it's much faster. also easier to handle.
[13:02] <mfa298> as in rpi-> i2c device will likely be faster than rpi -> arduino -> i2c device
[13:02] <shauno> how fast do you actually need the sensor?
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[13:04] <shauno> I mean, say you send two bytes for a value and one byte as a separator. 24 bits. 1000 samples a second is 24kbps, 115kbps is over 4000 samples a second
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[13:09] <AndChat106409> Got a question about sdcard overclocking ,my sdcard has uhs compatybile rating ,but has a class 10 speed rating. Is decreased random read and write speed ,with doubled seq read speed and +2MB/s write speed a possibly sign of unstability?
[13:09] <AndChat106409> At 100mhz clock using commands like clear isn't instant as it is with 50mhz clock.
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[13:17] <Hanonim> heck, pi4j is too messy, i might just use the native bindings to wiringPi and write a proper clojure lib
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[13:31] <gordonDrogon> or just code in BASIC :-)
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[13:33] <Hanonim> basic ?
[13:34] <Nia> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BASIC
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[13:35] <HrdwrBoB> Hanonim: yeah
[13:35] <Hanonim> yes, yes... but you know... basic !
[13:35] <HrdwrBoB> Hanonim: just a simple protocol
[13:36] <Hanonim> HrdwrBoB: with some kind of checksum and whatnot?
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[13:39] <HrdwrBoB> nope
[13:39] <HrdwrBoB> didn't bother
[13:41] <Hanonim> HrdwrBoB: did you worry about the default buffer size of the arduino (64bits i believe) ?
[13:42] <HrdwrBoB> I have it set to make a request from the pi (one byte)
[13:42] <HrdwrBoB> and then a two byte reply
[13:43] <Hanonim> alright, fairly simple then
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[13:46] <Hanonim> i wonder, for something more complex, does it really need a checkshum ? how reliable is it over usb ?
[13:47] <gordonDrogon> it's an interesting question - I didn't use a checksum in my 'drc' protocol. it's been used over usb and Pi serial extensively, with no issues that I'm aware of, however that doesn't mean its perfect...
[13:48] <HrdwrBoB> I haven't bothered, and I won't
[13:48] <HrdwrBoB> but I can reset and move on
[13:48] <HrdwrBoB> depends on the applicatio
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[13:48] <HrdwrBoB> application
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[13:49] <HrdwrBoB> tbh I would be very surprised if there was an error rate worth a damn on serial over usb to a pi
[13:49] <HrdwrBoB> er, arduino
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/drogon-remote-control/drc-protocol-arduino/
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> there is a control protocol that does have checksums - it's widely used (I'm told), but I can't for the life of me remember its name now )-:
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> some system comes with it as part of the bootloader AIUI.
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[13:51] <HrdwrBoB> but I've also seen with my own eyes interference from power to copper GBE that via a roundabout way caused an I/O system hang
[13:51] <brainzap> gordonDrogon: why the space before semicolon?
[13:51] <HrdwrBoB> which caused a server outage on both sides of a redundant pair, because the redundant system didn't die
[13:51] <gordonDrogon> brainzap, what?where?
[13:52] <HrdwrBoB> it was in infinite wait
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[13:52] <brainzap> gordonDrogon: https://gist.github.com/yene/4e30d472cca2fa87e1f5717919eb1905
[13:52] <gordonDrogon> I don't have anything on github.
[13:53] <brainzap> I got it from your site here https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi-weather-station-software-4-the-hard-bits/
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[13:53] <gordonDrogon> right.
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[13:54] <gordonDrogon> why not? it's *my* coding style. 30 years ago, spaces in source files cost you 10�S each at compile time, and precious disk space. now they're free. make code more readable to my poor dyslexic eyes.
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[13:54] <brainzap> I cannot sleep tonight, pls change
[13:55] <gordonDrogon> nope.
[13:55] * binaryhermit would think they're not free exactly
[13:55] <binaryhermit> but cheap and worth using
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[13:56] <binaryhermit> probably saving more time in development than they "waste" compiling
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> you'll be bleating about me vertically aligning my {}'s next too :-)
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[13:56] <gordonDrogon> actually, in ye old days of the pdp11/40 it probably took more like a millisecond or 2 per character of source file...
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[13:57] <gordonDrogon> (oh, and vertically aligning ()'s too)
[13:57] <brainzap> are you doing them manually or does it your editor?
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[13:57] <gordonDrogon> I do it manually. I use vim with no plugins enabled.
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> although I used to use external programs to align ()s and = signs, but I've not seem them since the days of SunOS.
[13:58] <brainzap> im calling the hospital ;-)
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[13:58] <gordonDrogon> keep taking the tablets.
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[14:01] <sigdk> It's been a week maybe since I asked here about sending data from my laptop to the rpi over the usb port using this: https://pythonhosted.org/pyserial/
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[14:01] <gordonDrogon> you might also want to learn about the 'indent' program ...
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[14:01] <sigdk> Someone told me that a usual usb-to-usb cable is not good for this case and I need something like usb-to-serial-to-usb
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[14:01] <sigdk> Yesterday I saw this: http://www.doctormonk.com/2012/04/raspberry-pi-and-arduino.html
[14:01] <sigdk> the guy is using a regular usb cable...
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, that's because the arduino has an on-board usb to serial converted chip. (ftdi)
[14:02] <AndChat106409> Yup it means instability
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[14:03] <plugwash> sigdk, which Pi model are we talking about here?
[14:03] <sigdk> plugwash, 2
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[14:05] <plugwash> The thing to understand about USB is that you have host ports, device ports and ports that can act as either.
[14:05] <sigdk> actually, my goal is to connect rpi to something like this: https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/014/049/388/cd306da09f3a0d89c63ed3a5dc0fe60c_original.jpg?w=1552&h=873&fit=fill&bg=000000&v=1477484077&auto=format&q=92&s=f1dad0656eba3cb53c2c6a1e8dcb2510
[14:06] <sigdk> usb-to-micro/mini-usb
[14:06] <plugwash> The ports on the B/B+/2B/3B can only operate in host mode. The ports on your laptop can also only operate in host mode.
[14:06] <sigdk> but I start by learning how things work
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[14:06] <sigdk> between laptop and rpi
[14:06] <plugwash> So you can't directly connect them together
[14:06] <gordonDrogon> that's what we said a few days ago ..
[14:07] <sigdk> gordonDrogon, yes, I did mention that
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[14:09] <gordonDrogon> usb is a master to (many) slave type of interface. to go pi to pc, it's master to master - which won't work, so you could go master to slave, where slave is a serial interface e.g. ftdi then connect both serials together. so both Pi & PC see a serial port and you can connect serial ports to each other.
[14:09] <sigdk> plugwash, how about this cable: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B29k7p2SyKLGeTJaTkxZdDVPc1U/view?usp=sharing Is it the same?
[14:09] <sigdk> does the cable edge imply the a host/device mode?
[14:09] <gordonDrogon> that's a bog-standard usb A to micro cable. it will not work to transfer data from PC to Pi.
[14:10] <gordonDrogon> (although you can power a Pi from a PC with it)
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[14:23] <sigdk> gordonDrogon, how about a module with this interface: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B29k7p2SyKLGWmxwRnNmNXNHQ0k Can I use usb (rpi) to micro usb (module) for their communication?
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[14:25] <Hanonim> sorry, been afk
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[14:34] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, BUY 2 of these: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/ftdi-cable-5v and use jumper wires to connect Gnd to Gnd, Tx on one to Rx on the other and Rx on one to Tx on the other.
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[14:36] <Hanonim> gordonDrogon: do you use rpi on your day to day job or is wiringpi more of a hobby ?
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[14:37] <sigdk> you mean rpi's GPIO ports?
[14:37] <sigdk> (gordonDrogon)
[14:37] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, no - those connect to the USB on the Pi and USB on the Pc.
[14:38] <gordonDrogon> Hanonim, I'm self employed. people pay me to to "stuff". Some of that stuff involves custom software/hardware on platforms including pi/atmega...
[14:38] <sigdk> gordonDrogon, but the diagram says that the micro-B usb can also be used for data transfer
[14:39] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, the pimoroni diagram?
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[14:41] <Hanonim> gordonDrogon: cool ! so wiringpi is basically your initiative and your working pretty much alone on it ?
[14:41] <gordonDrogon> Hanonim, sort of. clients have asked for specific/new stuff to be added into it which I've then put in the public release.
[14:42] <Hanonim> gordonDrogon: it's somewhat funny it turned out like this. you could expect wiringpi to be a utility provided by the RPI foundation
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> Hanonim, not really - they're only interested in Python.
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> I write wiringPi to support my own C and BASIC programs.
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> *wrote.
[14:44] <Hanonim> i've never used RPi.GPIO (not a fan of python), i thought it depended on wiringpi
[14:44] <sigdk> gordonDrogon, OK. I need to clarify this (and thanks for your help so far). My upper goal is to connect rpi to a "LoRa module" which has the following interface: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B29k7p2SyKLGWmxwRnNmNXNHQ0k/view I am not experienced and I thought I could start with a smaller project usb-to-usb data transfer between pc and rpi... First of all, is this going to help me or its a different case?
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> I already had my own 'wiring' like thing for ATmega (arduino) platforms, so it seemed easy to re-implement it on the Pi.
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, just connect the module to the Pi. The Pi will see a standard usb serial interface. it will be easier to do that than to connect the Pi to a PC via USB serial.
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, then you can use e.g. minicom to talk to the module and send it AT type commands (assuming that's what it needs)
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> Hanonim, I don't think RPi.GPIO depends on wiringPi - although Ben may have borrowed some ideas from wiringPi.
[14:46] <Hanonim> no, it doesn't... but i read that wiringpi is more complete ;)
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> the foundation are now pushing the Zero thing (forgot it's full name).
[14:46] <sigdk> gordonDrogon, so it's not the same as usb-to-usb (laptop-to-rpi) case, right? How do I connect it? with this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B29k7p2SyKLGeTJaTkxZdDVPc1U/view?usp=sharing ?
[14:47] <sigdk> If I understand correctly, I can use this for data transfer AND power supply from the rpi side
[14:47] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, that's a bog-standard USB A to Micro A cable. You use it to connect the Pi to USB (slave) devices, or to power a Pi from a US charger/hub/pc
[14:47] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, you can only use it to exchange data with a usb slave device. a PC (and a Pi) are USB master devices.
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, your lora device is a usb slave device.
[14:48] <sigdk> so, it will work...
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[14:48] <gordonDrogon> if it has a micro usb socket, then it should work.
[14:48] <sigdk> yes!
[14:48] <sigdk> it does
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> you really (really!) want to look at the high altitude balooning project - they've been doing this stuff for years.
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[14:49] <gordonDrogon> plug it in, type 'dmesg' and you'll see what usb device is creates - maybe /dev/ttyUSBx or /dev/ttyACMx ...
[14:50] <sigdk> gordonDrogon, this: https://balloonchallenge.org/tutorials
[14:50] <sigdk> ?
[14:51] <mfa298> sigdk: for UK HAB stuff try ukhas.org.uk also Dave Akermans blog, http://www.daveakerman.com/
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[14:51] <gordonDrogon> ^
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[14:51] <gordonDrogon> although ukhas appears to be broken right now.
[14:52] <mfa298> Dave's stuff is probably where you'll find most lora stuff as he's done a lot with it
[14:52] <mfa298> I think there's been some ssl cert issues on ukhas (hopefully getting fixed)
[14:52] <sigdk> gordonDrogon, dmesg looks like this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/43622b41abf756b3a0ef246d5857f4da
[14:53] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, ok - it's /dev/ttyACM0
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[14:53] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, try (in a terminal window): minicom -D /dev/ttyACM0
[14:53] <gordonDrogon> then type AT and press enter ...
[14:53] <gordonDrogon> it might say OK.
[14:54] <gordonDrogon> (assuming it's that sort of interface)
[14:55] <sigdk> gordonDrogon, hm... doesn't seem to do anything and it's kind of stuck
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[14:56] <gordonDrogon> ok - might not be an aT interface.
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[14:56] <gordonDrogon> Ctrl-A then Q will get you out.
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[14:56] <sigdk> gordonDrogon, what does an AT stand for?
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, it's a 30 year old command to wake up modems.
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[14:56] <gordonDrogon> It's part of the "AT command set" for modems. Devices I think by Hayes a long long time ago.
[14:57] <sigdk> couldn't I use my normal terminal to send something to ttyACM0? why minicom?
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> minicom plumbs your normal terminal to the device.
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[14:57] <gordonDrogon> and at this point, I suggest you stop what you're doing and start reading/researching. I feel you need to learn a lot more ...
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[14:59] <Hanonim> gordonDrogon: i've seen your work has been ported to other platform such as the banana pi. yet, pi4j seems to chip only with your original library and claims to support those platforms
[15:00] <sigdk> gordonDrogon, yes, and any source is welcome. ... the thing is that I have some python code doing an echo between the server and lora module and I thought I could hack it
[15:00] <sigdk> I had doubts for the connectivity
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[15:00] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, I know nothing about these radio systems - nothing about python either.
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[15:01] <gordonDrogon> Hanonim, I only support the Raspberry Pi in C/C++ and BASIC - others have ported it to other systems and languages - I have no control over that.
[15:02] <Hanonim> yes i know, i'm just surprised it works like that, maybe i'm missing something
[15:02] <sigdk> gordonDrogon, have you seen this: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/os/ ? I wanted to try go through. You think it's too complex?
[15:02] <mfa298> sigdk: I'd second what gordonDrogon said above, you need to go and research how those modules work. The various radio modules I've used generally come with large datasheets with lots of data on configuring them.
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[15:02] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, yes, I have seen it.
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[15:03] <gordonDrogon> sigdk, if you want my opinion on it being too complex, then YES, for goodnes sake, you've really not demonstrated much clue here at all. Go down that route and you'll get lost after line 2.
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[15:49] <Bojangles> would making a raspberry pi cluster to mine cryptocurrencies be more efficient than running individual pi's trying to mine?
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[15:52] <Hanonim> Bojangles: you're better off using a proper gpu heavy computer
[15:52] <gordonDrogon> Bojangles, generally, using a Pi for this task is only good for academic purposes. even a large cluster of Pi's will be no-where near as good as single PC.
[15:53] <Bojangles> why is this the case out of curiosity
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[15:53] <Bojangles> slash could you point me in the direction of some reading regarding this topic
[15:53] <BurtyB> and probably cost more in electric vs buying them (unless you get real lucky)
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[16:00] <baconology> If i want to use python to control some IO and report back the status of that IO. i've been directed to "flask", is this the best way to go? i'd like an easy way to, via a web framekwork, get and set GPIO
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[16:00] <baconology> whats the easiest "for dummies" approach on that one?
[16:01] <baconology> web2py looks maybe overkill?
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[16:01] <mfa298> if you wanted to build a cluster to do crypto mining you'll probably have to write a dedicated cluster aware mining tool.
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[16:02] <mfa298> Bojangles: ^^^
[16:02] <Bojangles> mfa298, how hard would that be?
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[16:03] <mfa298> Bojangles: possibly beyond you're capability if you're asking the question. Clusters need software written to be able to use it as a cluster. It's not just a magic faster computer.
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[16:04] <Bojangles> mfa298, i'm aware of that and i'd say i'm a pretty experienced programmer, was just a general inquiry
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[16:09] <baconology> easiest path for http control/monitoring of GPIO on the pi?
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[16:14] <baconology> http://www.instructables.com/id/Simple-and-intuitive-web-interface-for-your-Raspbe/?ALLSTEPS <-- this looks like the way to go imho, but am open to any feedback since php has a pretty big learning curve
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[16:16] <Hanonim> gordonDrogon: reading your code it looks like one cannot disable an interrupt ?
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[16:17] <Baikonur> does someone have an idea why a new raspbian install on an rpi would refuse ssh connection
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[16:18] <Hanonim> Baikonur: sudo raspi-config (you have to enable it there)
[16:18] <shiftplusone> Baikonur: because it's not enabled by default
[16:18] <Baikonur> oh it isn't
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[16:18] <shiftplusone> you can also drop an 'ssh' file on the boot partition, for headless setup.
[16:20] <Baikonur> thanks, I'll rather do that than figure out which cables to pull so that I could attach a keyboard and display to it
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[16:28] <gordonDrogon> Hanonim, one program for one task - I never envisaged anyone would want to disable an interrupt for the duration of a program...
[16:28] <gordonDrogon> Hanonim, however it's trivial to ignore them if you need to.
[16:29] <gordonDrogon> baconology, use whatever language you're happy with - you can access the gpio in BASIC, C/C++, python, ruby, perl, cobol, fortran, shell scripts, etc.
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[16:32] <Baikonur> yeah that worked for the ssh
[16:33] <Hanonim> gordonDrogon: yes, it is just a matter of efficiency
[16:35] <gordonDrogon> I could code up a wiringPiISRdisable (pin) type of function without too much issues.
[16:35] <Hanonim> gordonDrogon: or simply replace the current isr with an empty function, but the thread never dies though
[16:36] <gordonDrogon> a solution I've suggested to folks is to simply check a global variable in the isr ..
[16:36] <gordonDrogon> next thing you'll be asking me is why you can't pass in an argument to the isr ;-)
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[16:37] <Hanonim> gordonDrogon: you're right saying an interrupt is probably something long lasting, yet i was a bit surprised
[16:37] <Hanonim> gordonDrogon: no, not really, i don't mind arguments :)
[16:37] <Hanonim> *;)
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[16:38] <gordonDrogon> I was asked for something that mimiced the ISR on the ATmega platform, so that's what I did ...
[16:39] <gordonDrogon> although there you can actually mask them out, however ...
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[16:41] <baconology> gordonDrogon - my problem is exposing the gpio easily to the web
[16:41] <baconology> i found this
[16:41] <baconology> http://randomnerdtutorials.com/raspberry-pi-web-server-using-flask-to-control-gpios/
[16:41] <baconology> which looks good
[16:41] <baconology> easier than php
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[16:43] <gordonDrogon> if controlling it via a web interface is your thing then go for it.
[16:43] <baconology> yeah that sthe requirement
[16:43] <baconology> just wasn't sure what is easier for noobs like me
[16:43] <baconology> flask for php + apache2, but this flask thing is looking pretty easy
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[16:44] <gordonDrogon> you may also want to look at: http://webiopi.trouch.com/
[16:44] <baconology> AWESOME
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[17:03] <kihis> umm. i'm trying to get neo 6m gps module to work with zero. should this work: http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-the-Neo-6M-GPS/?ALLSTEPS ?
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[17:07] <Younder> I am having troble getting a ADAfruit Ultimate GPS breakout work work over UART. when doina cat /dev/ttyS0 it seems fine. In gpsd over gpsd -s I get zip
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[17:07] <Younder> cgps -s
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[17:08] <kihis> Younder: HEY! i'm trying to use neo 6m gps module. what did you do to cmdline.txt and inittab?
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[17:09] <Younder> I did enable_uart=1 in setup.txt. Didn't touch cmdline.txt
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[17:09] <kihis> Younder: mmkay! thanks :)
[17:11] <shiftplusone> you may want to disable the console on serial in cmdline.txt
[17:12] <kihis> shiftplusone: this: console=serial0,115200 ?
[17:12] <kihis> (tutorials says console=TTYAMA0,115200)
[17:13] <shiftplusone> tutorial is out of date
[17:13] <shiftplusone> and there is no inittab anymore
[17:13] <shiftplusone> so.... don't follow that one
[17:13] <kihis> :D
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[17:13] <kihis> shiftplusone: but i remove that console=serial0,115200 part?
[17:14] <Younder> On a Pi3 the UART is ttyAM0 is connected to the wireless. So there is a second software emulated UART connected to ttyS0 If you set enable_uart=1 in /boot/setup.txt. It is clock sensitive so it also set's the PI governor to run at a fixed frequency. (probably why it is not default)
[17:14] <shiftplusone> kihis: yes
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[17:15] <shiftplusone> you don't need to touch the governor. It affects the core clock, which isn't the ARM clock.
[17:15] <shiftplusone> it affects the VPU performance
[17:15] <Younder> I didn't. The doc sayd it shod set the freq autom.
[17:16] <shiftplusone> correct
[17:17] <shiftplusone> but when you say governor, that's a little misleading, since people usually talk about the the CPU clock and the kernel's frequency scaling governor, which this doesn't affect at all.
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[17:20] <kihis> ha! i think it works
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[17:26] <EnrgySmth> I want to power an Raspberry PI 3 Model B, Arduino U3 and 8 port relay board with this: http://a.co/gzCPnXG (Amazon, Mean Well AC/DC switching power supply)
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[17:27] <EnrgySmth> Will that work for the Raspberry PI, or do I need something addition, caps, etc?
[17:29] <leftyfb> that's more than enough
[17:30] <EnrgySmth> better to wire 5v to a plug, or go directly to pins?
[17:30] <shiftplusone> plug, if you want input protection
[17:30] <Habbie> i recall directly to pins will
[17:30] <Habbie> what shiftplusone said
[17:31] <shiftplusone> I don't see a datasheet, so you may want to make sure that there is no minimum current draw required, for example.
[17:31] <shiftplusone> but in general, it looks like it might work.
[17:31] <EnrgySmth> there actually is... someone asked that in the comments.
[17:31] <Rickta59> or insane peek to peek voltage
[17:31] <EnrgySmth> checking
[17:32] <EnrgySmth> "The minimum load for this power supply is 16 Ohms on the 5V channel (V/I=5/0.3=16 Ohm) and 60 Ohms on the 12V channel (V/I=12/0.2=60 Ohm). "
[17:32] <EnrgySmth> do you think the PI will satisfy that or do I need to use a resistor of some kind?
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[17:35] <EnrgySmth> i probably need to order a micro usb plug then
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[17:38] <kihis> umm. why python gps libraries wont work
[17:39] <kihis> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'gps'
[17:39] <kihis> https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-ultimate-gps-on-the-raspberry-pi/using-your-gps
[17:39] <kihis> ii python-gps 3.11-3 armhf Global Positioning System - Python libraries
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[17:46] <Habbie> kihis, can you show us your failing program?
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[17:48] <kihis> Habbie: i copypasted the code from link above
[17:49] <Habbie> kihis, what did you call the file?
[17:49] <EnrgySmth> so the cleanest connection might be a DC barrel jack terminal and an Barrel-Jack to microUSB adapter...
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[17:49] <kihis> Habbie: python foo.py
[17:49] <Habbie> kihis, oh
[17:49] <Habbie> kihis, usually this problem is because people call it gps.py :)
[17:50] <Habbie> kihis, is there incidentally a file gps.py in your current dir?
[17:50] <kihis> Habbie: HA! damn you :D
[17:50] <Habbie> language please :)
[17:50] <kihis> Habbie: thanks a lot
[17:50] <Habbie> np
[17:50] <kihis> sry :)
[17:50] <Habbie> if that didn't do it, a tip for next time
[17:50] <Habbie> run 'python -v'
[17:50] <Habbie> then 'import gps'
[17:50] <Habbie> it will tell you where it found it
[17:51] <kihis> Habbie: thanks :) i'm a newbie with python
[17:51] <kihis> know how to code, dont know how to solve problems :D
[17:51] <Habbie> you'll get there :)
[17:53] <kihis> hope so.
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[17:57] <kihis> umm. i think gpsd may not work
[17:58] <Habbie> the howto said 'continue here after you got gpsd working' ;)
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[18:03] <kihis> woohoo! it works!
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[18:05] <Habbie> hurray
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[18:07] <kihis> btw is there some fancy way to attach a hat to zero, and after that attach something else?
[18:08] <kihis> some kind of go-through-pins or something
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[18:09] <kihis> i need a envirophat and gps module and some other stuff. envirophat takes only several pins and i dont want to solder wires to envirophat to use gps module
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[18:37] <kihis> i mean does any place sell a piece like this: https://cdn-learn.adafruit.com/assets/assets/000/028/768/medium800/raspberry_pi_2822-00.jpg?1448520203 BUT with longer pins instead of those tiny ones
[18:37] <kihis> that: -|-- and what i want: ---|--
[18:37] <kihis> :D
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[18:43] <chisight> i've seen headers with long pins on aliexpress. i don't have the search terms or product number though.
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[19:04] <lagzilla> I have a raspberrypi 1 using raspbian 8 1/11/17 and I'm getting stuck at DMLight, I enter my u/p and it doesn't go any further. Has anyone else experienced this?
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[19:11] <lagzilla> Sorry figured it out, I was being silly
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[19:55] <wtiger> Hi!
[19:55] <dishaze> High!
[19:56] <wtiger> I want to create a Network attached storage using my raspberry pi 2 for use with linux systems exclusively
[19:56] <wtiger> which os should I consider?
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[19:57] <shiftplusone> wtiger: any
[19:57] <shiftplusone> I'd use raspbian lite, but that's just me.
[19:58] <wtiger> which protocol to use?
[19:58] <wtiger> smb?
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[19:59] <wtiger> shiftplusone: I want to use it only on Intranet
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[20:00] <wtiger> on devices that are connected to my router if I wasn't clear
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[20:01] <shiftplusone> yeah, that tends to be the least painful approach
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[20:01] <wtiger> cool, would you recommend smb?
[20:01] <fedalto> wtiger: I would also look on nfs
[20:01] <mfa298> wtiger: if all the clients are *nix than nfs is also an option.
[20:01] <wtiger> yes
[20:01] <wtiger> all are *nix
[20:02] <mfa298> both nfs and smb have various advantages over the other
[20:02] <clever> i always use nfs for linux, and sometimes have one box dedicated to re-sharing the nfs over smb for winblows
[20:03] <wtiger> clever: winblows.. touche
[20:03] <clever> i recently wound up with a need to run it again, and have discovered all of the windows machines have vanished, lol
[20:04] <clever> the only one i can find has 256mb of ram and no directx
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[20:04] <mfa298> if you've got common users (probably with matching uids) across all the machines and you trust everyone with root access to all of them then nfs is usually the better choice
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[20:05] <mfa298> if some of those don't apply then smb can be better as it's got authentication built in
[20:05] <clever> yeah, thats part of why i set the uid of every user i create, to keep them in sync between the machines
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[20:06] <mfa298> I'm old fashoined, I've got nis setup for user managment
[20:06] <mfa298> sometime in the next decade I might move to ldap
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[20:08] <shiftplusone> Hmm.... I have a microsd card that seems to ignore all writes to it... dd it with /dev/zero and all the content is still there..... create a new partition table and it's still the old one O_o
[20:08] <shiftplusone> what is this wizardry
[20:08] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, I have several like that.
[20:08] <mfa298> shiftplusone: sounds like a dying sd card.
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[20:09] <shiftplusone> I wonder if it's dying or if it's in some read only state that you can get out of
[20:10] <shiftplusone> Something like this http://hackaday.com/2013/11/12/keep-your-sd-cards-data-safe-with-the-sd-locker/
[20:10] <shiftplusone> in the bin it goes
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[20:10] <gordonDrogon> I have some that show 32MB of space and readonly.
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[20:11] <shiftplusone> and they were fine before?
[20:11] <gordonDrogon> there is some Win software online that can rescue them. These are the ones from pimoroni that have had the power pulled )-:
[20:11] <clever> shiftplusone: i would expect any linux system that exposes a /dev/mmc block allows such low level access to the SD registers
[20:11] <gordonDrogon> clever, sure - but the issue is no-one has the magic for them.
[20:11] <clever> but the usb mass-storage converters will block that kind of thing
[20:11] <clever> gordonDrogon: yeah
[20:12] <gordonDrogon> this: https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/ is the tool, apparently.
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[20:12] <shiftplusone> I was going to try that, but found that vmware doesn't work anymore and I don't have a windows box handy
[20:13] <clever> i think i'm going to have to actualy build a windows system, lol
[20:13] <clever> i need one to test some software, and they have all gone missing or are too crappy
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[20:16] <shiftplusone> actually.... think I'll dig that card out of the bin and save it to check if sd formatter fixes it.
[20:16] <shiftplusone> just need to make sure it doesn't end up with my working sd cards and end up wasting an hour of my time again.
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[20:17] <mfa298> need some nice obvious marking on it
[20:18] <shiftplusone> Maybe when I dig it out of the bin there will be some cheese on it or something.
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[20:34] <chra94> I find it fun that you can a pc which satisfies most needs for 35$
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[20:36] <shiftplusone> Most needs, but perhaps not most people's needs (until you can play full screen youtube videos from within the browser without lag)
[20:36] <ShanShen> I agree, chra94 . I don't have a lot of money for non-essentials. Having a Pi satisfies the new-computer urge for now.
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[20:37] <chra94> shiftplusone, the newest pi lags on 1080p youtube?
[20:38] <shiftplusone> yes, hardware acceleration from within the browser is a pain. You can use youtube-dl and play the video using omxplayer without any problems, but if you're using chromium, you'd want to avoid full screen mode.
[20:39] <mfa298> I'm not sure you can do it from within a browser, I believe you can download and watch with something that's got acceleration though
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[20:39] <mfa298> as shiftplusone just said
[20:39] <chra94> so chromium isn't opimized for the pi?
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[20:39] <zleap> hello, could someone help me with realvnc please
[20:39] <chra94> well at least it's not the pies fault ^^
[20:40] <shiftplusone> chra94: it is, but not as well as something like omxplayer.
[20:40] <mfa298> in terms of video play back there's very little that's got hardware acceleration (omxplayer, kodi, and vlc if compiled from source)
[20:41] <chra94> maybe the pi market isn't big enough for google to update their software
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[20:41] * chra94 speculates
[20:41] <shiftplusone> the problem with browsers is that each frame is copied and manipulated multiple times. It's not enough to just decode and display the frame, you need to decode it, resize it, composite over it and so on.
[20:42] <mfa298> I'd imagine google are more interested in doing stuff for ChromeOS (or whatever it's called) and Android.
[20:43] <chra94> and the player just decodes and some more?
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[20:44] <sigdk> does anyone have experience with pySerial? I'm trying to open a port but doesn't seem to work (no exception is raised either though): https://gist.github.com/anonymous/958bb10d8076c86391152cb40714cd18
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[20:48] <plum_> does anyone here use IPv6?
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[20:48] <shiftplusone> chra94: omxplayer has some additional functionality above just decoding and displaying the video (I think it does subtitles as well), but it was written specifically for the pi, by somebody who knows the hardware inside out.
[20:48] <chra94> wow, cool
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[20:48] <chra94> I'm naive and hopes an addon will integrate it with Chromium
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[20:49] <shiftplusone> I think that exists already
[20:49] <shiftplusone> http://kusti8.github.io/RPi-chromium/
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[20:51] <chra94> ^^
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[21:00] <Baikonur> so I updated my raspberry pi raspbian, then I updated it again, then it died because it ran out of space mid update, then I installed minimal raspbian on it, and now I'm updating it again
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[21:00] <Baikonur> all this and I just wanted to have gcc 5
[21:02] <shiftplusone> could've uninstalled something like wolfram-engine and continued on.
[21:03] <srk> Baikonur: try https://pignus.computer/ :)
[21:03] <Baikonur> shiftplusone: I couldn't ssh in anymore
[21:04] <Baikonur> and it had so much stuff I didn't need anyway
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[21:04] <shiftplusone> ah
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[21:06] <Baikonur> srk: I'm not opposed that, but on the other hand, I've used a lot of debian (-based stuff) and a little anything else so I've become very accustomed to how things work there
[21:06] <ali1234> pingu's computer?
[21:07] <Baikonur> *not opposed to that
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[21:08] <srk> Baikonur: the main reason it exists is that raspbian does a lot of weird stuff that's not really needed. gpios via dev/mem, raspicam, custom kernel :)
[21:08] <ali1234> does it have working graphics drivers?
[21:08] <ali1234> and why is the minimal image 400MB?
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[21:09] <srk> ali1234: no, graphics are not supported at all in that releases
[21:10] <srk> ali1234: because it is based on fedora minimal
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[21:10] <ali1234> its not very minimal
[21:10] <ali1234> can you make it smaller?
[21:10] <srk> sure
[21:10] <Viper168> make it trump sized
[21:10] <Viper168> and by that I mean tiny
[21:11] <srk> we can try. but we also try not to diverge too much from fedora
[21:11] <Baikonur> you could make a system on rpi on yocto or buildroot
[21:11] <chisight> apt remove trump
[21:11] <srk> sure. or alpine
[21:11] <Baikonur> that at least would be smal
[21:11] <Baikonur> or small
[21:11] <ali1234> i tried yocto. couldn't get it to work. full of bugs. they expected me to sign a CLA to get them fixed
[21:12] <srk> compared to "official" images 400Mb is nothing :)
[21:12] <ali1234> took about a day from initial download to noping out
[21:12] <srk> eh :D
[21:12] <ali1234> i also tried buildroot, but it doesn't work very well with glibc and i could not get it to compile gstreamer
[21:12] <Baikonur> I made a system with yocto on some atmel board
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[21:13] <Baikonur> some of the AT91SAM things
[21:13] <srk> ali1234: it just works on fedora + rpi2/3 due to v4l :D
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[21:14] <ali1234> yeah. but how big is fedora gstreamer package?
[21:14] <ali1234> i bet it is huge
[21:14] <srk> not sure
[21:14] <ali1234> my rootfs is 65MB compressed
[21:14] <ali1234> it includes gstreamer and qt
[21:15] <srk> it's split into multiple packages so
[21:15] <ali1234> nothing i have looked at comes even close
[21:15] <ali1234> gstreamer is always split
[21:15] <srk> hehe, nice
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[21:15] <ali1234> you always end up needing ugly, and it is like 200MB
[21:15] <srk> based on what?
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[21:15] <ali1234> raspbian
[21:15] <srk> w00t, much less :)
[21:15] <srk> ok
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[21:16] <Baikonur> why do you need to have it to be tiny?
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[21:16] <ali1234> so it can run out of ram
[21:16] <Baikonur> oh ok
[21:16] <srk> nice
[21:17] <srk> running number of my devices from network (over nbd)
[21:17] <ali1234> i had to modify raspbian a lot. i had to replace ifupdown with systemd
[21:17] <ali1234> i had to build a custom kernel (~4MB instead of 100MB)
[21:17] <ali1234> and i had to custom build Qt and gstreamer to get them to a sensible size
[21:18] <ali1234> everything else is from raspbian
[21:18] <ali1234> the system is more minimal than even a minimal deboostrap
[21:19] <ali1234> there's stuff marked essential in the repos that isn't actually essential at all
[21:19] <ali1234> it can't be uninstalled - dpkg won't let you
[21:19] <ali1234> so i just delete it, lol
[21:20] <ali1234> also same goes for /usr/share/doc
[21:20] <ali1234> its massive and pointless
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[21:23] <ali1234> clever: was it you experimenting with nixos?
[21:23] <clever> ali1234: yeah
[21:23] <srk> hehe. I'm as well :D
[21:23] <srk> does it run on rpi?
[21:23] <ali1234> i kind of want to try it
[21:23] <clever> srk: i have ran it before, with the rootfs on iscsi, but those 2 pi's where armv6
[21:23] <srk> nice
[21:24] <clever> i plan to get an armv7 up, but havent gotten around to it yet
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[21:24] <ali1234> can i build a nixos image for pi on ubuntu?
[21:24] <clever> you need an arm build slave to build it
[21:24] <clever> i have nix installed on rasbian, acting as a hydra build slave
[21:24] <ali1234> can that be a bunch of raspberry pis?
[21:24] <clever> yeah
[21:24] <ali1234> does it run out of ram all the time?
[21:24] <clever> i enabled swap on it
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[21:24] <srk> clever: so you did your own v6 build/port?
[21:25] <ali1234> does it automatically use multiple build slaves?
[21:25] <clever> most of my failures are due to the SD running out of space
[21:25] <ali1234> this sounds great. how do i get started?
[21:25] <clever> ali1234: normal nix build slave rules, 1 derivation per slave, and as long as they dont depend on eachother too much
[21:25] <iovoid> I am getting "Timeout poll on interrupt endpoint" when trying to boot my pi3b. What should I do? Replace SD or its a known issue?
[21:25] <ali1234> i have no idea what that means
[21:25] <clever> ali1234: step one, read the source of https://nixos.org/nix/install
[21:26] <clever> ali1234: see how it downloads the darwin, 32bitlinux, or 64bit linux tarball and installs nix?
[21:26] <ali1234> yeah
[21:26] <ali1234> can't it run in user mode?
[21:26] <clever> i have also done that, but kernel builds dont like it
[21:26] <clever> ali1234: http://hydra.earthtools.ca/job/arm/nix/binaryTarball.armv7l-linux
[21:26] <clever> ali1234: this is an armv7 tarball, that should be compatible with https://nixos.org/nix/install
[21:26] <ali1234> whaaat? why not? i always build kernel as a normal user
[21:27] <clever> ali1234: if you patch that shell script, you should be able to get nix-{env,store,build} on armv7
[21:27] <ali1234> what exactly is nix anyway?
[21:28] <ali1234> is it a package manager or a build system?
[21:28] <ali1234> or a distro?
[21:28] <srk> both kindof
[21:28] <clever> all of the above
[21:28] <srk> even configuration management :D
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[21:28] <clever> nix itself is a package manager and build framework
[21:28] <clever> nixpkgs is a set of packages written in the nix language
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[21:28] <clever> and nixos is an entire OS, wrapped up in a package within nixpkgs
[21:28] <ali1234> maybe this isn't really what i am looking for
[21:29] <srk> clever: so it builds just fine on armv6 with raspbian build slave(s)?
[21:29] <ali1234> i'm looking for something more like yocto, except that actually works
[21:29] <clever> srk: yeah
[21:29] <ali1234> and doesnt take 2 days to produce an image
[21:30] <clever> ali1234: it can do that, depends on how you write the packages
[21:30] <Younder> Will they ever et a paspi-3 with 4 Gb of RAM?
[21:30] <srk> clever: hmm :D we're struggling with fedora dependency hell a lot :D
[21:30] <Younder> raspi
[21:30] <ali1234> Younder: no, it is impossibe
[21:30] <Younder> why?
[21:30] <clever> srk: nix solves a crap-ton of depdency hell problems, you can only ever use something you explicitly depend on
[21:30] <ali1234> CPU architecture only support 1GB
[21:31] <clever> srk: so you never accidentaly get something the developer happened to have installed, and it will either work for everybody, or fail for everybody
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[21:31] <ali1234> clever: that's a big problem for me
[21:31] <srk> clever: I see
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[21:31] <ali1234> especially cross compiling
[21:32] <ali1234> you always get stuff from the build system
[21:32] <clever> ali1234: there are a few ways to deal with cross-compiling in nix
[21:32] <ali1234> usually it makes the compile fail completely
[21:32] <Younder> On a 64 Gb arcitecture? Well I would rather have the pi 2. You get what 12 % increased performance, but then the amount of memor is decreased by 30%. You need the memory more
[21:33] <Younder> bit
[21:33] <clever> Younder: i think the pins going out to the board only have enough bits to handle 1gig ram modules
[21:33] <srk> clever: I've started playing with it some time ago in VM. installed on workstation like two weeks ago and it was a really nice experience. had everything I've needed to start working ready in few minutes. xmonad, kicad, stack, jack, even nvidia drivers.. everything just worked :D
[21:34] <srk> steam and 32 bit libs
[21:34] <srk> two lines of config. done
[21:34] <ali1234> Younder: its the videocore that only supports 1GB, not the ARM core
[21:34] <Younder> Well I also have ateson it is based on a ARM 65 and it has 64 Gb of RAM and runs ubuntu and it fits on a credit card.
[21:35] <ali1234> they would have to change that, and so far they have NEVER done that
[21:35] <Younder> also 256 cuda cores
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[21:35] <ali1234> its because of how the MMU works
[21:35] <Younder> http://www.nvidia.com/object/jetson-tx1-module.html
[21:36] <ali1234> check page 5 of this: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bcm2835/BCM2835-ARM-Peripherals.pdf
[21:36] <Baikonur> cost is 10x compared to rpi3
[21:36] <Baikonur> money can get you around a lot of problems
[21:36] <Younder> for now. but I needed computer vision.
[21:37] <Younder> Anyhow the prices will come down
[21:37] <ali1234> clever: would nix virtualbox be a good place for me to start?
[21:37] <clever> ali1234: oh right, 4 main ways to handle arm building in nix
[21:38] <ali1234> 4 ways?
[21:38] <Younder> Not if you wnat a flying quad with computer vision.
[21:38] <clever> ali1234: #1, use a proper cross-compiler, so you just run an x86 compiler on an x86 machine, but produce arm binaries
[21:38] <clever> ali1234: that works for some things, but not all packages support it
[21:38] <Younder> quemu will do it
[21:38] <ali1234> i already have a full cross compiling sysroot and qemu
[21:38] <ali1234> works for everything i need
[21:38] <ali1234> i have a huge collection of hacks though
[21:38] <clever> ali1234: #2, use qemu-user-arm to forcibly run ARM binaries on an x86 machine
[21:38] <ali1234> that's what i want to tidy up
[21:38] <clever> ali1234: then you can just run the arm->arm compiler
[21:39] <srk> Younder: you can do e.g. stereo with decent fps on rpi compute modules
[21:39] <clever> ali1234: but #2 has a bug with kernel builds due to xargs
[21:39] <ali1234> xargs?
[21:39] <clever> ali1234: check "man xargs"
[21:39] <srk> Younder: but I agree it's too slow for general purpose vision stuff
[21:39] <mfa298> in a year or two there might be a Pi4 with >1GB ram, but it needs a big change in architecture. The few other people that have done ARM boards with >1GB tend to not have thing that are compatible with each other and also very poor support
[21:39] <clever> ali1234: #3, run a full arm kernel and os under an qemu-system-arm, and then do #4 against that
[21:39] <clever> ali1234: #4, just throw nix on a dozen pi's and set them up as build slaves
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[21:40] <ali1234> i know what xargs is, what's the bug?
[21:40] <srk> mfa298: like 64 bit arm? :)
[21:40] <clever> ali1234: xargs drives the argument count right to the upper limits
[21:40] <ali1234> ah yes, that one
[21:40] <clever> ali1234: binfmt-misc then prepends qemu-user-arm to the command line, and now it overflows!
[21:40] <ali1234> oops
[21:41] <srk> lol
[21:41] <clever> the arm xargs isnt aware of the extra overhead from binfmt-misc
[21:41] <Younder> srl. I need1 terraflop of 16 bit float and libs. and believe me only nvidia provides. I jumped once I saw the opportunity on a truly autonomous robot.
[21:41] <clever> and pushes things too close to the edge
[21:41] <ali1234> that's... annoying
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[21:41] <ali1234> papercut bug
[21:41] <clever> ali1234: whats more anoying, is that the problem happens at the very end of a 2 hour kernel build, and then nix deletes the entire build
[21:41] <srk> Younder: what algo?
[21:41] <ali1234> :(
[21:42] <ali1234> yeah that would make me rm -rf the whole thing and use something else
[21:42] <clever> ali1234: also, i listed those 4 steps roughly in order of performance
[21:42] <clever> ali1234: #4 is the simplest of them all
[21:42] <ali1234> sure, i already know about all those options
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[21:42] <ali1234> already using #1 and #2
[21:42] <Younder> Well it's a deep neural net. But it uses a tensorRT optimizer
[21:42] <srk> :)
[21:42] <ali1234> because vala cant cross compile
[21:43] <ali1234> it is full of hard coded system paths, and doesn't respect sysroot
[21:43] <clever> ali1234: Dezgeg in #nixos has been doing #4 thru a cheaty route, a much more powerfull nvidia/arm board
[21:43] <ali1234> what i really need is more of a build system
[21:43] <srk> Younder: that's quite a specific part of the computer vision :)
[21:43] <clever> ali1234: oh, and there is some work being done in #nixos to get a proper arm build farm up, so you get pre-compiled stuff
[21:43] <ali1234> that knows things like "build a tarball and reuse it instead of re-running the build script"
[21:44] <clever> ali1234: the nix build slaves allow you to push jobs out to a system of any arch, and then copy the result back in
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[21:44] <clever> ali1234: but if your stuff relies on FHS paths like /usr and /lib, it wont be happy with nix
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[21:44] <clever> ali1234: though nix does have a lot of tools to fix that by force
[21:44] <ali1234> it relies on everything respecting --sysroot
[21:45] <clever> more that nix doesnt have a single sysroot
[21:45] <clever> every package has its own --prefix
[21:45] <clever> and you have to gather libs/headers from a dozen different prefixes
[21:45] <ali1234> that's not something i want or care about
[21:45] <clever> but nix has hooks on gcc to cover that for the most part
[21:46] <ali1234> but what about vala tho?
[21:46] <srk> vala /o\
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[21:46] <ali1234> i basically have two sysroots - minimal one for the target, and development one for cross compiling
[21:47] <ali1234> i need to build them both from deb packages
[21:47] <ali1234> then compile a load of source against the latter and install it into the former
[21:47] <ali1234> then generate a cpio from it
[21:47] <srk> clever: is the arm build farm distributed? we can probably contribute some power
[21:48] <srk> running ~100core arm cluster
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[21:48] <Younder> I study computer vision. And I liked the idea of a quad that could fit on a dinner late plate with that kind of power
[21:49] <clever> srk: at the lowest level, all it needs is nix-daemon running as root, and nix-store in $PATH when you ssh in, so "ssh foo@bar nix-store --help" doesnt return "command not found"
[21:49] <clever> srk: thats enough to make a basic build farm, then just throw as many hosts at it as you want
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[21:49] <ali1234> does nix use systemd?
[21:50] <clever> yes
[21:50] <ali1234> does it use anything else?
[21:50] <clever> like?
[21:50] <ali1234> like debian only half uses systemd, and half it's own scripts
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[21:51] <srk> clever: yeah, sounds good to me. I can switch hosts from one os to another as they all run from network. but I'm asking if part of this cluster can be used for building official nix binaries
[21:51] <srk> maybe I should just ask on #nixos :D
[21:51] <clever> srk: yeah
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[21:52] <clever> srk: its mostly a trust thing, that none of the binaries coming out of your slave have been tampered with
[21:53] <srk> clever: indeed
[21:53] <Baikonur> so I updated my raspbian from jessie to stretch and it stopped answering to ssh
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[21:53] <Habbie> Baikonur, do you have hdmi+keyboard?
[21:56] <Baikonur> I remember having had a spare hdmi cable
[21:57] <Baikonur> but can't find one
[21:57] <Baikonur> I need to remove one off the TV tomorrow probably
[21:57] <Habbie> tv occupied right now?
[21:58] <Baikonur> no but I'm tired :)
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[22:00] <Baikonur> fine I went and got it
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[22:05] <Habbie> hehe
[22:05] <Habbie> let us know if you need help
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[22:09] <plum> zzzzzz
[22:09] <Habbie> sleep well
[22:09] <plum> so sleepy haha
[22:09] <plum> it's like 1pm here though :P
[22:10] <plum> i've been obsessed with random quirky projects with the Pi this week
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[22:17] <ali1234> how do i install the raspbian package keyring on ubuntu?
[22:18] <Chocolungma> j
[22:18] <Chocolungma> oops
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[22:21] <Baikonur> so I can't ping the rpi from my pc, but I can ping my pc from the rpi
[22:22] <plum> what OS is your pc on?
[22:22] <Baikonur> windows
[22:22] <srk> hehe, enable ICMP in firewall :)
[22:22] <plum> can the pi ping other hosts on the network or get through to google etc?
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[22:23] <Baikonur> pi can ping google, I tested that
[22:23] <srk> ah, it's the other way around
[22:23] <srk> check iptables -L
[22:23] <srk> but by default ICMP should be allowed..
[22:24] <plum> can other hosts ping your PC?
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[22:25] <Baikonur> i need to boot up my laptop
[22:25] <plum> alright
[22:25] <plum> always good to have another host for debugging :P
[22:26] <plum> also would be good to know whether the PC could ping the other host (which it probably should be able to)
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[22:29] <gordonDrogon> does anyone know if the Pi3 puts the wi-fi device into sleep mode?
[22:29] <Baikonur> laptop can ping pc, laptop can't ping rpi, rpi can ping laptop, pc can ping laptop
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[22:30] <Baikonur> so pc and laptop can ping each other, rpi can ping to both, neither can ping to rpi
[22:31] <gordonDrogon> sounds like a local firewall. Run sudo iptables -n -L
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[22:31] <plum> agreed, have you set up iptables on the pi? or ufw or a firewall equivalent?
[22:32] <gordonDrogon> sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
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[22:33] <gordonDrogon> lets see if that helps. stupid Pi has been going offline - and I found out tonight that it wasn't crashing, only not responding to Wi-Fi every now & then - this after the latest kernel via apt-get update.
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[22:33] <gordonDrogon> http://skpang.co.uk/catalog/raspberry-pi-c-240.html
[22:33] <gordonDrogon> doh. wrong copy&paste.
[22:33] <plum> uh oh, i should look out for that on my pi too for kernel updates
[22:33] <gordonDrogon> [831537.983995] brcmfmac: power management disabled
[22:34] <Baikonur> the rpi is clean raspbian jessie lite install, which is then dist-upgraded to stretch
[22:34] <Baikonur> nothing installed
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[22:34] <Baikonur> nothing changed, nothing configured
[22:35] <plum> is the pi on ethernet or wifi?
[22:35] <gordonDrogon> right, but have you run the iptables command?
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[22:36] <Baikonur> ethernet
[22:37] <Baikonur> the iptables commadn doesn't show me any policies
[22:37] <plum> and the laptop/desktop, same medium?
[22:37] <Baikonur> desktop ethernet, laptop wifi
[22:37] <plum> gotcha. yet both were unable to ping it
[22:37] <Baikonur> yeah
[22:37] <plum> are you able to perform updates from the pi?
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[22:38] <Baikonur> yes
[22:39] <plum> i would try doing an all-over update, then reboot
[22:39] <plum> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo rpi-update; reboot
[22:40] <plum> probably have too many sudo's in there but w/e lol
[22:40] <Habbie> if you're not root, that's the right amount of sudo
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[22:41] <plum> good good :) i saved that to a shell script with root so i usually just do sudo update.sh; reboot
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[22:42] <gordonDrogon> Baikonur, check the Pi's IP address with the ifconfig -a command - just to be doubly sure you know what you're pinging from your PC & Laptop.
[22:43] <plum> oh true that! could be just the wrong ip address for the pi
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[22:45] <Baikonur> indeed it is, my router admin thing claims it has an ip that ends in .47 (which it used to have) but it's actually .48
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> there you go.
[22:45] <plum> yaaaaaasssssss
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[22:46] <Baikonur> so the ping is actually fine, and the original "problem", ssh is also fine, but the zyxel network map is a lie
[22:48] <plum> sad day :(
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[22:49] <plum> i want to switch to ipv6 but my ISP probably won't support it for a good 5-10 years :(
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[22:49] <Baikonur> well, couldn't have debugged that without taking out the other keyboard and the hdmi cable from the tv
[22:51] <plum> i usually set up SSH as like the second thing i do with a pi so i don't have to use a monitor or move keyboards everywhere
[22:51] <plum> seems like there was a roadblock before getting SSH though in this case for sure
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[22:51] <Baikonur> I set it up as the first thing, but it changed ip's on me
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[22:54] <plum> for sure
[22:54] <plum> nmap has been very helpful to me in diagnosing things like that and IP address changes
[22:55] <plum> i usually set a static address for anything i don't use a monitor for as well
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> plum, I've had ipv6 here for about 5 years now.
[22:56] <plum> luckyyyyyy ugh
[22:57] <plum> tell Frontier to get their act together :c
[22:57] <plum> apparently they used to have a page up for ipv6 on their site, but they took it down. i think they're more interested in acquiring more of Verizon's old FiOS customers
[22:57] <plum> while Verizon dedicates their resources to battling net neutrality for profit
[22:58] <gordonDrogon> means nothing to me, this side of the atlantic....
[22:58] <ali1234> blah i hate fakeroot
[22:58] <plum> ahh are you in non-US? being all forward-thinking and whatnot
[22:58] <plum> lol
[22:59] <gordonDrogon> UK here.
[22:59] <plum> lucky, they must really have it together to have ipv6 over there on the ISP's end
[22:59] <plum> brb
[22:59] <gordonDrogon> we have a choice of dozens of ISPs.
[23:00] <gordonDrogon> one has been offering v6 for over 10 years now.
[23:00] <shauno> my ISP says ipv6 is in-process, and they plan to have it deployed summer 2015
[23:01] <gordonDrogon> hm. saying that, my ipv6 appears to be offline right now.
[23:01] <plugwash> we have a load of boutique providers who offer ipv6 but charge steep rates for traffic
[23:02] <plugwash> then a few big ISPs most of which don't support IPv6 and the one who does support it (sky) does silly crap like ridiculously short RA lifetimes
[23:02] <plugwash> (at least that has been my experiance in the UK)
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> plugwash, yea, Sky ... they're v6 enabled now.
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> I don't think I pay over the odds with entanet, but I do believe in paying for a slightly better quality of service.
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[23:06] <gordonDrogon> brb
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[23:07] <gordonDrogon> that's better.
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[23:07] <gordonDrogon> in an ipv6 sort of way :)
[23:07] * plugwash had ipv6 from sky but it seems to have dissapeared again
[23:08] <plugwash> and as I said it they use stupidly short RA lifetimes, which mean if you try to use privacy extensions IRC breaks badly
[23:09] <gordonDrogon> zen now appears to have ipv6 enabled and there's always aaisp ...
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[23:18] <Baikonur> I think every other ISP has ipv6 here, except the one I have
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[23:24] <Younder> IPV6 is no black magic
[23:24] <gordonDrogon> it shouldn't be.
[23:24] <Younder> Get a boook on it
[23:24] <gordonDrogon> isp's are reluctant for a number of reasons.
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[23:26] <Younder> Don't get it wrong. hackers are out there and the would just love to exploit you system. No pressure them
[23:27] <shauno> I've taken to v6ing all the things. just using a he.net tunnel because my ISP are glacial
[23:28] <Younder> IP4 still works for a number of people. Like me. Move when you feel conferable.
[23:29] <maicod> does there exist a switch-cable to hook-up to the 2.5A/5.1V original Rpi B3 power supply that won't limit the current (due to resistance) ?
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[23:29] <maicod> I'd like to add a on/off switch to it
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[23:32] <Younder> maicod, Yes Anadruit has one
[23:33] <Younder> ADAfFruit
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[23:33] <Younder> A usb to microUSB wuth a off switch
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[23:34] <Younder> I have 10 on my mini-cluster
[23:35] <plugwash> what I am wondering is when will IPv4 addresses get valuable enough that western fixed-line ISPs will start forcing customers behind some form of NAT so they can sell off the IP addresses
[23:35] <maicod> younder: does it not limit the 2.5A current @ 5.1 V due to resistance of the wire/switch ?
[23:35] <Younder> maicod, no
[23:35] <maicod> did you measure it ?
[23:36] <maicod> I tried using an extension cable here but it made the voltage drop down at higher currents
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[23:36] <Younder> no, but I have never had any trouble. Why should i+
[23:36] <maicod> I guess the wires were too thin of the extension cable
[23:36] <Younder> ?
[23:36] <maicod> oh well I'm electronic so I measure such things :)
[23:37] <shauno> plugwash: that's already began .. verizon's already using cgnat in some areas
[23:38] <Younder> maicod, guess so. What the hell are you talking about? I connected the sources with microUSB for power and then ethernenet and that's it.
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[23:39] <maicod> younder: Its ok. I just mean that extension wires can create resistance meaning the Rpi might not get enough Amps anymore
[23:40] <maicod> I had alot of trouble with the Rpi B1 years ago due to this reason :)
[23:40] <maicod> it kept corrupting the SDcard
[23:41] <Younder> For what it's worth I got the cable from China. Cat5e cable'
[23:41] <maicod> btw thanks I see the cable @ adafruit that you meant
[23:41] <maicod> I was talking about the POWER cable :) not Ethernet
[23:41] <maicod> hehe
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[23:43] <Younder> I bought the power cables from ADAFruit
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[23:44] <Younder> But you are wise to cut ad connect you owb ethernet cable. That said it is much more dificult than you think.
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[23:45] <Younder> I got one in 3 right.
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[23:46] <Younder> and get a cable checker. However it works money-wise
[23:46] <Younder> Buy from China, US suppiers will rip you off
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[23:50] <Younder> My machien has been compromized by trumph and his compades, Rest a wile while I clean up this mess
[23:52] <Younder> I just mentined cnina and the program dissapered and then reappeared. Ind I am in norway.
[23:53] <Younder> I just mentioned china and the program diapered and then reappeared. Ind I am in Norway.
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[23:58] <plum> wat
[23:59] <maicod> younder: I only was talking about the power adapter and a cable to add to that with a switch in it (like the one from adafruit). I have not ever talked about the ethernet cable :)

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